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/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>Quintuple-teamed by Raime and his four bitches:
>>170125705

>Discord-sponsored tournament on March 25:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (404, please re-upload): https://my.mixtape.moe/ldkpad.webm

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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ALEX IS BEST
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>>170171085
Personally, I'd recommend you get it on PC instead, if you don't have a toaster, since Steam sales let you buy it for probably half or less of that. You're probably too late to participate in Return to Drangleic anyways, so may as well wait.

If you haven't played DaS2 before, then it's worth it at that price regardless. There are few games out there worth full price anyways.
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.
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>>170171390
t. alex
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>>170171269
This thread has now been buffed with poison resin.
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>>170171441
Yeah, all I have is a laptop. If I tried to run Dark Souls 2, it'd probably go up in flames. (But really, the frame rate would be bad. At least on Xbox it'd be 60fps. I think.)

But thanks anyway. I might buy the DLC for DS3 and play it on my NG save since I'll be decently levelled for it. Still need to play the DLC for DS1 as well.
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>>170171464
duh
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>>170170996
>insight
Naturally, because the games take place in the same universe in the same vain as Drakengard/Nier. :^)
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Yuria best girl
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>>170169336 #
>breast position
>elongated torso
>fucked up hips
>fucking sketch lines
>shit face
>manchin
>filters to cover up bad detail

Someone needs to spam the loomis meme on this faggot. His souls art is overrated at this point and he needs to move the fuck on.

First for scas a shit artist
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>>170171842
hi jojonigger
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>>170172054
Who the fuck is jojonigger?
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>>170172193
presumably a black guy who likes anime
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DS2 is the best Souls game
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I hope TRC has a shit ton of DaS2 references and plot points so all the hating faggots never purchase it
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>>170172802
Considering we're returning to Earthen Peak, I could see our favorite Jester coming back, with even more pyromancies this time. Otherwise, Maldron returning would be great, even if some insinuation was made toward Pate.
All I really want from TRC is pic related
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>lost 700 hours of DaS2 characters cause PC got stolen
>tfw steam doesnt have cloud coverage for it
i wanna play it honestly, its been a few months

should i just buy Scholar if I wanna play it again?
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>>170173139
Post the pardoners' audio
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>>170173168
Scholar is the only way to play it. Vanilla DaS2 is dead.
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>>170171498
kys
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>>170171269
REMINDER

In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Twin Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.
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>>170174370
>Twin Dragon Greatshield
ancient dragon*
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>>170174370
>cant use bonewheel
Faggy tourney.
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>>170174723
what?
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>>170174370
you guys better not let lucy win
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>>170175541
who?
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So what weapon does the most Critical Damage on a 40/40 build now? I'm not using Hornet, but I want something with decent crit damage because Ricard's hits for like 400 on a non-hornet riposte.
For some reason the Dagger does just ever so slightly less than the Rapier (about 7 or so damage, generally) which kind of confuses me as the Dagger has the tied highest crit modifier in the game.
I would've thought crit modifiers would be more important than pure base damage, but apparently not. Am I best off just grabbing whatever highest base damage weapon I can have equipped then? Or is there some hidden gem of a weapon that I don't know about?
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>>170174370

To the guy who signed up as 'Supafanboy' give your discord number ID in the response, click the invite link or post your Steam too, as is you just gave a name and can't be contacted on discord due to its shit search feature.
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>>170175930
Crow quills have highest AR of all rapiers and boast a 130 critical modifier. Its ripostes do retarded damage, often breaking 1000. That said, the best criticals come from weapons with huge AR. Thats why BKGA, DSGA, and Yhorms were all popular for oneshot parry builds before the patches.
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>>170175541
>luci
>pc
>win
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>>170174370
fag turnament for fags that bans things with no rime or reason

enjoy getting fucked by actual meta cancer
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>>170174370
>everything and their grandmothers are banned
>except Tears of Denials
ebin :-DD
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>>170177072
Thorn armor. Crisis averted.
>b-but Sun Princess ring
banned.
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>dark sword not banned
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>>170174370
Kys kiss yourself faggot
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>>170177198
>being bad
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>>170177198

>thinking Dark Sword is somehow broken still
>dying to Straight Sword R1 spam
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>>170177198
it got nerfed though, so if you ban the dark sword you have to ban all SS
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>>170177171
Thorns armor might as well fall under the same category as Fire Surge and throwing knives, since it's your means to finish a person off in one of the most anticlimactic fashions. Having to equip Thorns in a tournament if plain sad when things like knives and Surge are banned.

>>b-but Sun Princess ring
>banned.
Thanks for clearing that up, for a moment there I thought I hadn't read the post I was responding to. Thanks!
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>>170174370
>all these rules
What a load of shit
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>>170177513

>dude let's have people running around with Poles forever until one of them dies, that's fun to fight in and watch right?
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>>170177198
>dark sword
>one of the shittiest straight swords for pvp
>no r1r1r2 rollcatch
>no stance
why should they ban it?
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>>170174370
>No throwing knives

Jesus Christ how horrifying
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>>170177427
>Thorn Armor should be banned
Ah yes, the armor the does essentially a whole one damage when you roll into a target.
I see where you're coming from but you can't really compare Thorn Armor to throwing knives as the damage is lower and throwing knives can be safely spammed from range without any real way to punish them.
ToD is useless without health regen so there's not really a point to banning it.
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Why did the Desert Sorceress Top end up with the reputation for being the sluttiest piece of gear? Smelter's always seemed way lewder than the one that just increased cup size.
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>>170177198
>greatwords not banned
Ftfy, greatswords are the new cancer now
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>>170177427
>surge 80dmg
>knife 40dmg
>thorn 1dmg at point blank
wew
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>>170177972
underboob is the true patricians choice
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>>170174723
where does it say bonewheel is banned you triple faggot?

>>170177427
>thorn armor
>at all comparable to surge

Yeah, because you can just walk backwards and slowly melt away an entire HP bar with the four or so damage from thorn armor right? Good luck beating a surge fag with just thorn armor, fuckboy, I hope you enjoy an extended stay in the burn ward while the molten flesh of your freshly Surge'd ass recovers. On the bright side though maybe the nerve damage will keep you from feeling that immense ass pain you're suffering from over your favorite spell being banned, you cabbage eating cocksucker
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>>170177897
Ah well, you understand my issue then, that's good. I can live with that, though the thing I'm trying to say here that it looks like an incredibly half-assed job, since you (I assume you're the lad who created the tourney) seem to be banning things that are going to end duels in the most anticlimactic way, but you're not going fully through with it. Either don't ban anything or go all out on the ban list.
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>>170174370
lol, im gonna enjoy wrecking these regen fags with my uchi. gonna be like my highlights as an orochi in forhonor
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>>170177427
Throwing Knives and Fire Surge aren't banned for finishing people off though - they're banned because people will spam them for the chip damage then run for the two minute fight timer and win because of HP percentages. It'd be boring to watch people finish each other off with knives sure, be way more boring to see some asshat hit a single throwing knife then roll around for two minutes.
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>>170177897
thorn armor shouldnt be banned lmfao, learn to roll fgt
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>>170178164
What kind of insult is cabbage eating cocksucker?
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>>170177972
>pressed underboob
nice
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>>170178242
>I created the tourney
I didn't and I'm almost insulted you think I did desu.
But yeah I agree with you about either going all out or not at all for the banlist, I'm glad we share the same view
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>>170178836
Please see >>170178453

This is why they are banned. Not because of them being used as finishers.
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>tfw das2 is getting too old for mods and das3's mods are on life support
does anyone else care about skins
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>>170171269
Want some candy?
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>>170179003
>others cant see your sick textures
what's the point?
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>>170179003
damn that looks like something out of demons souls without the glow. what mod is that? might want to use it for my wandering monk build
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FC at HW
pass: dsg
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>>170179246
PC FC?
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>>170179246
PC
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What SL is recommended for AotA ? I tried killing Darkroot hydra around SL 40 but got fucked.

>>170179152
Not him, but as long as I can see it it's ok. I don't care about what others see, plus I play DaS1 offline.
The mods I have are all HD version of some armors/weapons/environment, not a real change.
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>>170179364
you should be fine between 60 - 80
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>>170179156
Are you talking about the robes or the sword? The robes are
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/4/?
And the sword is
fresh off the presses
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/1240/?
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>>170174370
>plow not banned
baka
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>>170179482
t.cancuck
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>>170179464
both, they look pretty sweet. i never thought the moonlight sword color scheme would work so well on the black knight sword
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>>170174370
boring
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>>170179410
Thanks, have a rare pepe
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So is there a max range that you can land a parry in DS3 like there was in DS1? Can I max range parry a GFS or doesn't that work?
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>>170171498
Is it a meme now? Did I miss something important?
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>>170179464
Is this a rapier you're using ? With that armor ? Are you me ?
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What kind of strategy should I be going for in PVP on a demon fist build? Ive never really tried running fisticuffs before and they have some significant flaws. Difficulty reaching people, being easily interrupted (this class really needs some HA), and the high risk of being parried thanks to my slow start up. Anyone have advice?
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>>170179310
BF!
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If I were to make a "Poster boy" build for Dark Souls II, what weapons would I use? The posters/trailers don't seem to use anything consistent.

At the moment I'm leaning towards dual longsword/spear because that's what the BoC uses in the CGI trailer.
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>>170179838
yes
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>>170180238
Did poison become good or something? What's the memetic value of this.
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I want to fuck Pilgrim Bellclaire!
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>>170180129
Running L1s are pretty good and have enough forwards momentum to carry you in range for anything that isn't a spear, otherwise you need to play quite defensively and make use of the L1R2L1L1 combo when people run into it.
Oh and unless I'm mistaken you can even use the WA after that whole combo, but I could be wrong.
Speaking of the WA, it's probably got the most HA of the Demon Fist's moveset, so it's worth using fairly frequently.

TL;DR Running L1 is your only good aggressive move, WA is your best bet for hyper armor, learn the cheese combo.
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>>170180212
I do love the Faraam set
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>>170171842
his shit is only good for a quick fap imo. he's very low /i/ tier
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>>170180610
purely memetical
purely forced
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>>170180858
Too bad it's looks pretty bad in DS2. Faraam set really shines in DS3.
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>>170180212
dragonrider bow, pugs, golden wing shield, dragonslayer axe
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>>170181058
Yeah, i hated how it looked like in DS3 but i've used it or parts of it on multiple DS3 characters.
Really want Giant Set back for that superior helmet though.
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Is fire good and dark bad, or is dark good and fire bad?
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>>170181278
Yes.
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>>170181058
True enough, I love the barbute helmet though, shame it has no coif or gorget
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>>170181278
no
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>>170181278
both are bad welcome to grimdark edgeland
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>using a slow weapon
>enemy is 2 handing their weapon
>keeps spamming block

I hope everyone who does that gets cancer
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Sup
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>>170180849

That combo has been patched out for months
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>>170181278
Ignore the dark fags, there's more good aligned fire, and light characters then dark ones.
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>>170182007
you are not as cool as dark hail
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>>170181983
did you at least break his guard? had some dumbass do this in the area only to get their guard broken by my greathammer. he tried doing the clapping gesture after rolling away when he was on 1 hp only to get a knife in the face
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>>170181278
Fire good but not all the time now burn your ass up so we can have some normality for a week or two
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>>170181983
>enter arena with Zwei
>opponent is pre-nerf CCS shitter
>starts spamming block, backstepping, spamming gestures and spazzing out in general
>start pushing his shit in
>hyperactive spazzing becomes panic rollspam instead
>mfw
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>>170182301
I can't really since they just stop it and roll away.
Makes me very angry since you can't do that aginst fast weapons.
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>>170181983
If your slow weapon is an ultra then their weapon block is still going to let considerable damage through and likely net you a guard break. They wont live long enough to get cancer.
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>>170182216

Numbers aren't everything and Gwyn, the original and biggest proponent of fire, literally screwed the natural order of the entire world.
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Can someone help me and drop these rings for me?

Cloranthy+2
Favor+2
Havel+2

PC, church of yorshka, pass: cunt
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>>170182094
Is there a new combo?
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>>170182494
Post a better artist and I might
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>caster duels
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>>170182546

what about this
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>its a Pursuer episode
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>>170182461
Yeah trying to save the world from the OG dark dude, Manus, who litterally destoryed a kingdom and drowned it in dark.

Countless examples of evil dark shit, Pontiff, Aldritch, Manus, the Abyss, Nashandra and countless others.

The natural order can suck it if that natural order is going to be Ooacille 2.0.
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>>170182412
bummer. give them a quick throwing knife next time if your weapon recovers quickly, it will piss off most and they'll tend to fuck up more
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>>170181278
I like turtles
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>>170182651
I wish there were some viable spell-barrier mechanics for better caster duels. Only two shields can spellparry too
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>>170182671

The only reason Dark became that was I'd because of the Fire. Dark is normally peaceful and serene until you go fucking with it.
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>>170182671

Dark and Fire are two halves of the same whole. If Gwyn didn't overuse the Fire because of Frampt and the Serpents, ala Kaathe didn't fuck with Oolacile we wouldn't have these issues. Unfortunately the Serpents are fuckers and are toying with mortals for reasons we don't understand.
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>Gwyn rekindles the First Flame
>Creates the undead curse

Wow great job jackass
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>>170183019
Not it aint. So you saying the Dark Wraiths kiling thousands of people, Kaathe corrupting the Four Kings with promises of DARK magic which resulting in, again, thousands of deaths, Aldritch wanting to bring on an age of dark (deep) and eating hundreds of children is the lights fault?

No, its because the Dark is inherently corrupting, ninety percent of the bad guys are dark aligned.

If humanity is dark, all the more reason to bring on light. Because humanity is fucking evil.
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>mfw playing ds3 for the first time and trying to decide on fire or dark
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>>170183271
If you could sacrifice another species to make humanity last longer, you'd do it too
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>>170183421
chaos is better for pve, dark for pvp
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>>170183354

No, the Darkwraiths are all Kaathe's doing. Everything you listed is because of the Serpents. Look at Chaos, that's Fire and corrupts all the same. Even Fire technically corrupts everything as changes it into a form that it was never meant to be. Everything should be Hollow.
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>>170181278
fire = gods, dark = humans

so fire if you're a god-fearing theist and dark if you're an edgy fedora
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>>170182671
manus was revived long after gwyn died and wasn't a monster before he was revived
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>>170183969

No, Gwyn didn't die until we killed him. He also didn't toss himself until the Fire until after Manus was revived.
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>>170183437
100% agree. that other species taking your side in genociding itself would be pure stupidity
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Reminder that great kingdoms (human ones) grow and thrive in the age of fire
I'm sure hollow filled Londor is just a lovely place though, dark is probably great right
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>>170184173
Even Pygmies of ringed city seem to fear Dark so much they rather go with dragons.
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>>170183969

>Oolacile woke up Manus
>Abyss starts spreading
>Artorias sent to deal with it and loses
>Gwyn tosses himself into the Fire
> You, from the future, go and kill Manus.
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>>170184108
by "died" i meant "linked the fire". my bad. and no, gwyn had linked the fire long before. NK left his miracle on gwyn's cenotaph when he was exiled and during aota NK is long gone
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this is reaching laziness levels that shouldn't be possible
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>>170182919
You mean, like twisted wall of light?
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>>170184267
Going with dragons is just the ultimate enlightenment unless you're Gwyn in his prime tier
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>>170184267
>so much they rather go with dragons.
>using dragons decapitated heads like flamethrowers to quell the tides of monsters is the same as joining the path of the dragon

okay
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>>170184551
nobody ever attunes that because casters are so shit and you'll meet one in 20 duels at best
Its also not very good
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>>170184267

Since when is that implied? Their Souls are Dark by nature.

>>170184448

NK was supposedly exiled when he sounded with Dragons. We don't know if that was at the start of the Age of Fire or after. We don't know how long the Age of Ancients existed with Gwyn and the others before they decided to take out the Dragons and start the Age of Fire.

In fact, we don't even know why they overthrew the Dragons. We know they were already making civilizations before the Age of Fire.
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>>170184829
the purple coward's crystal says the overseer, who i have sound reasons to think is NK, is absent
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>>170171842
You forgot
>right arm close to her side
>left arm floating impossibly in the distance
>yet somehow the whip is being swung from some wicked fucking angle
>no green color buff in game
>whip and spots are the wrong color
>random poison FX all over the picture
>wrong eye color
>armor nigh unrecognizable, even for a waifu'd version of it
>no nipples
>nose encroaching on eyeball because lol I need space between it and the other eye
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>>170185206
Thanks jojo
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redpill me on cheatengine
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>>170177378
By 9 AR, the mainstays of its length and low stamina consumption with still retard tier damage output are all present

That said, OP is a faggot
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Why would people of a covenant worshiping a god kill or help others kill said god?
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>>170184669
Hey, at least they are trying.
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>>170185420
Is that one of your Discord e-celebs or some shit?
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>>170185752
Its a manga reference.
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>>170185752
he's banned from discord for being a total cunt
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>>170174370
should be fun. fuck the haters.
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>>170185513
Blues are the biggest cucks this time round
>no full orb or sin mechanics
>Way of the Blue procs once in a dark moon
>their church and religious order have been hijacked by a fucking tree
>their covenant leader is dead and being worn as a cocksleeve
>cant even avenge people responsible for that because Aldrichfags dont trigger blue invasions, meaning that Anal Rodeo is now rightfully their turf
>their covenant "leader" is an autist with deformed hands
>she is only good for the chime she drops on death, so blues kill her as well
>the signature covenant buff that bluebois farm for hours upon hours is mechanically just a remodel of a lightning blade with maybe a slightly more rare damage type
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>>170186145
>giantdad
>str
hello newfriend
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>>170185918
So I was right, now go crawl back to your circlejerk faggot
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>>170174370
I'll consider joining this since I can probably make top 3 without much effort
if you're gonna ban like a whiny faggot ban estoc and onyx sword while you're at it since WP is actually a terrible weapon
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>>170186286
>implying he leveled dex
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>>170186135
I didnt think of darkmoon because I consider them fucking raped and dead
At least they have the motivation for revenge against the monsters that destroyed their sacred city, a warrior of sunlight that wants to kill nameless is just trying to kill the god they devote themselves to
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>>170186135
>this time round
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>>170186660
>implying the tonal shift in the covenant in 3 doesn't make killing your own god metal as fuck and something he would've accepted as your warrior spirit
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>>170186135
For all your bluff and bluster sewer boy, you are still an order dedicated solely to protecting Aldrich in a game where Aldrich is a mandatory boss fight. You can't stop shit, and you and the Watchdogs are sitting in the rejects table right next to us :^)
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>>170174370
>Taking away a part of my fashion that I barely even use anyway
2hp a second in a 2 minute fight too worrying for you?
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>>170186548

>I'll consider joining this since I can probably make top 3 without much effort
>WP is actually a terrible weapon
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>>170186735
If Gwyndolin was even remotely sentient by the time Ashen One got to him, I'm sure he was grateful for sweet release of death
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>>170186735
I'd have enjoyed warriors of sunlight getting a PvP part of being summoned to help nameless, but FROM would never let that happen
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>>170187140
I doubt Firstborn even acknowledges them.
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FC still at HW. PC
pass: dsg
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>>170186636
At least once if started bandit, twice if pyro
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>>170171269
Rate my new character lads
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>>170186974
>implying anyone worth there salt is still playing this game
>implying /dsg/ isn't reliant on meme trades and spam casting like cowards
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>>170187659
>spam casting
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>>170187625
Boring lip color/10
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>>170174370
God it's like those faggot ass Battlefield servers.
>>
Holy fuck the road to get to O&S is more annoying than the bossfight itself.
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>>170187810
I played with /dsg/ for years
every caster plays the same
>start with soulmass
>chuck nuke spell
>re cast soul mass
>throw more nukes and run away until out of casts/FP
>pull CMW rapier
I'm not complaing that it's unfair, it's just boring and shows a lack of thought into the style
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>>170187625
>bloodborne
Get the fuck out.
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>>170187981
Just jump off the spiral staircase to the second floor of the building. It isn't much but at least you can skip the room with the two silver knights
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>>170174370
>banning anri straight sword
you scared or something cunt?
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>invading before the Twin Princes

Impossible. I just can't invade faster than these guys are marathoning past these enemies! Can't really blame them though, it's a hell of a gauntlet.
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>>170187291
Someone confers those gifts to you for sunlight medals
Woulda just been something slightly different but actually just pulling an old thing back out again which from loves
It would also make NK probably the hardest boss, shitters would have to fight phantoms or go without their own, it'd fuck people
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>>170188180
I can try that. I've been doing the way from the first bonfire, it's just a straight line, I figured out it'd be quicker but it's still annoying.
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>>170188302
>>170174370

>only good weapon for luck builds
>ban it

Why? Remove Onyx and MLGS too then
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>spears have 0 recovery frames
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>>170187659
I'll beat up your shit, fuccboi
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>>170174370
>>170188302
>>170188426
BAN

EVERYTHING
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>>170188302
I think it's because of the health regen
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>>170188426
What an autistic ruleset. Thank god I just invade on my ps4. In fact, I'mma fire up my elite knight blessed weapon lucker right now.
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post yfw you start celebrating and then you hear "When the ashes are two, a flame alighteth" and a third healthbar starts regenerating for the first time
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You guys are going to ban ~fun~ soon
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>>170188783
>needs crutches to win
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>>170188379
The first bonfire?
As in the first bonfire with the Lady of the Darkling on the other side of Anor Londo?
That's an insanely long distance, lad, why would you do that to yourself
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>>170188426
They banned regen, Anri's has regen so it's banned
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>>170188795
>Boy, I'm sure this would be a surprise for someone who didn't already knew there were three phases!
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>>170188795
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>>170188834
>crutches
>invader

????
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>>170174370
>and Fire Surge are banned.
RIP pyro.
>Lothric Knight sword and blaack knight shield not banned.
Enjoy some actual meta cancer.
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I apparently sound like Vaati,

gimme lines and I'll read'em
then you can judge how shit I am
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>>170189273
Crutches are crutches no matter where. Even if you need a crutch to beat another that are multiple phantoms, you still are relying on it like a shitter
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>>170188795
NANI?!!?!?!!??
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>>170189429
lol not him but if you can win it doesn't really matter.
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>>170189412
>Shit Dead Dude, havest thoust heardest of Hell Fuck Castle, etc. etc. etc.
Someone bring the full copypasta.
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>>170189412
"my neck is so long I cosplay as Yorshka while getting rimmed by ENB and Peeve"
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>>170188795
Managed to avoid spoilers before the release and it was godlike.
I wasn't even mad that i've died like a bitch.
It hit almost as hard as Ludwig's transformation.
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>>170188795
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MY FLAYUL, FRIEDE!
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>>170189412
Say
>Its so damn funny, I can tell them any old bullshit and they just lap it up. I told them that hairy fucker was Lloyd the other day.
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>>170188795
>mfw trusty bandit knife has never failed me
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>>170189758
kek
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>>170189560
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aUZg6iM2ae
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>>170189868
KEK
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>>170189429
>i don't like the strategy your build is centered around so that makes it a crutch!

Stay bad man.
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>>170189868
It's uncanny
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>>170189683
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lbH4rGNifT
>>170190036
lol
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>>170189557
>using the archive is hard
Shit-Ass Dead Dude... Know'st thou of Hell Fuck Castle, high in the mountains...? (laughter) It was once the domain of King Big Sad Guy, who did the Flame Thing.. Legend tells of the castle's steward, the great and terrible HorseDog, but who is to say if it still roams the halls... (solid minute of laughter) Oh, how silly of me; but of course, a new arrival in Drangranthric wouldst know not such tales... One such as thee... wouldst be better suited to sharpen the blades of the dreaded wraith of Why'd They Put Anorher FUCKIN SWAMP LEVEL Marsh..... Armor Type of Dude. That is... ifst thoust canst livest thatst longst... (five minutes of laughter; unskippable)
>>170189412
if you do above, be sure to include the laughter to its full extent. i don't care how you do it, i want my 5 minutes of solid laughter
also, say "another little gem discovered by the community. you certainly know how people can cosplay as several characters in this game, both fictional and real. but did you know that using the dragonscale armor and masterfully combining it with smough's helm, you can actually cosplay as me?"
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>>170190137
>>170189868
Say "PCucks are the cancer of the Souls community"
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>tfw the absolute madman of a host actually goes dragonform for NK because of your antics of opening the battle with a 2k headshot
>tfw he actually does it again for the third try too and we manage to pull through
>tfw you taught a host how to DODGE

feels good man
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>>170190137
You could run Vaati out of business, or make a parody of him. Read off the most archaic, bullshit lore theories in this voice, post it online, and roll over in money from your Patreon
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why are they banning so much shit in DS3 multiplayer? i can't even keep track of it
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>>170190331
YOU are banned
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>>170190304
shit forgot pic
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>>170189942
Shut the fuck up you stupid bat
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>>170174370
You should have banned hornet ring. This is so dumb. Heavily favors Dex/Caster, magic black knight shield and curved/straight/greatswords. Woohoo...
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>>170190331
who is?
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>>170189868
holy shit that was a 1-1 vaati
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>>170190196
I can't laugh out loud atm, someone else in the house with me.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0smPAwhDg1f

>>170190307
I dunno, I could probably make parodies. But I wouldn't make anything serious to try debunk his shit,
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>>170190196
Okay explain that pasta please
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I shouldn't be rushing the game with this build, but I am.
Im at lvl 90 and I backstab lothric knights for 1115 lmao.

I can't wait to fuck people up in PvP with this shitty build.

Oh and crow quills are absolutelly disgusting, the speed of the weapon shouldn't be that high with the amount of damage it deals with crystal infusion.

>A scalling

Literally what the fuck.
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>>170190764
Just take your voice and read the lore arguments we have here, it would be an absolute riot
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So do Lothric Knights tame or hunt dragons? Both?

I'm casually browsing through item descriptions and I can't really tell how they feel about dragons, besides that they're associated with one another. Some descriptions imply they would work together, or at least were basically dragon riders or similar. It also mentions hunting them though. Like the Lothric GS says it's imbued with Lightning, "the trademark of dragon hunting."

I just enjoy slaying dragons and hate dragon sympathizers, like NK and, likely Ornstein turned out to be. It's disgraceful.
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>>170190854
suppposed to be "basically every souls npc ever", but it's mostly the storytelling one and heavily exaggerated
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>>170191005
They used to be dragon hunters, but later on they tamed them and became dragon riders, if I recall correctly
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I think I should stop
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>>170190137
Great anon.

Say
>Really I've never even played Dark Souls. I just skipped through some lets plays on youtube. I've got better things to spend my patreon money on then try-hard video games. Leave that sort of shit to that dweeb Silver Mont.
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>>170184173
>>170190940
good fun
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aOPRB4kOa1
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>>170191005
>So do Lothric Knights tame or hunt dragons? Both?
They hunted them initially then started taming them.
It's really symbolic given that Archives are secretly a Paledrake cult and there's shitton statues of Serpent aka imperfect dragon inside. Plus Oceiros himself becomes a pale dragon hybrid.
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>>170191139
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>>170191250
This is amazing
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>>170187315
FC at HW is now FFA.
PC - pass: dsg.
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>>170191005
Well, not dragon, by wyverns.

There are extremely few true dragons in Dark Souls, the only ones that are truly confirmed are Everlasting Dragon, Seath, Kalameet and Sinh, as well as maybe the Writhing Ruin. Their descendants are considerably weaker, which is why a shitter such as the player character can usually kill them like plain mobs.
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>>170191237
kek
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0tHe8hQDqRI
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>>170191005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWu5YqWjy8o

they


breed them
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>>170191474
There's also Archdragons, whoever they may be.
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>>170191139
hnnngg
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>>170188839
Doesn't matter anymore, they're dead

How come some people struggle a lot for this boss ? This is my first playthrough, I beat them on my 3rd try. I read that some needed weeks, even months sometimes.
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>>170191771
>some needed weeks, even months sometimes
It's a mystery to me as well. Not only O&S weak, but also retarded as fuck.
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>>170191546
>>170191250
based voicefag
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>>170191548
>>170191259
Couldn't help myself.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nFthNskmmA

>>170192057
lol thanks
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>>170171269
Can anyone on PC help me kill nameless king please?
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>>170191546
>>170191250
>>170192117
ok fuck off faggot, we dont need another PCuck attention whore in here like the whole 4kings shit. die of cancer
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>>170192159
>just reading shit
>attentionwhoring
noice

The pool's closed as well, I presume?
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>summon for dragonslayer armour
>walk into boss room
>phantom cant enter, enjoy fighting this guy alone with twice the health
>black crystal phantom, restart game
>it happens three times in a row

How is this still not fixed
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>>170192159
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>>170191771
Learn this: Souls difficulty is schizophrenic. There's no consensus whatsoever amongst the community what bosses are hard and what aren't. Your easiest boss will often be someone else's hardest, and the opposite is also true.
Although Capra Demon and Ornstein and Smough are two bosses infamous for kicking in the faces of unprepared players who don't rightly know what they're doing or who just rely too much on having their shield tank every hit. It's harder to fumble your way to success against them than it is against, say, Gaping Dragon.

I too had a lot of trouble with them the first time, through they were probably the only boss in the main game that punished me like that.
I'm sure the fact that I was fighting them with an Astora Straight Sword contributed to that.
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>>170192159
/v/ is that way asswipe
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>>170192390
>>170192347
>>170192296
reddit is that way dipshits
kys
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>>170192335
Happened to me like 3 times today. Is it not an internet connection thing? Every time it happens I see the host sliding around like a laggy invader before he goes through the fog.
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>>170192486
ebin
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>>170192159
Your accusation of attention whoring might hold more ground if you didn't have such a raging hatred for people on PC, managing to derail conversations at the mere mentioning of it.
>>
Hello
I started playing Dark Souls 3 this week
How do i get rid of the black bars on top and bottom ? I play on 1600x1200

Best regards
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>>170191259
That's actually pretty suspicious. I never thought about Lothric becoming more passive toward dragons because of dragon worshipers on the inside, manipulating the ignorant slaves.

I think Dragon Riders and Knights are actually cool, but Path of the Dragon is for degenerates. Maybe if you could ascend into something like an Ancient Wyvern, that might be slightly respectable, but not really because you abandoned being a human. But no, literally everyone trying to become a dragon deforms into a snake man or something even worse, like Oceiros. The emaciated lizards that players can turn into need to be slain before they transform even further and start to see humans as lesser beings. Feels so good to use lightning on anything with scales, especially because I believe a lightning attack used on a dragon is described as peeling the scales off of them.
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>>170192718
>>170192697
kill yourselves PCucks
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>>170192790
I'm on PS4, you stupid fuck.
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>>170192553
perfect connection for me but the moment I step inside I hear my phantom rolling against the wall tryihg to get in

BTW if you get summoned and this happens, immediately crystal out so the host doesnt have to do it for you. They cant restart the game if youre still in it
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>>170192335
Why this bug still exist? It was there since bloody release.
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Can anyone on PC help me kill nameless king please?
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>>170192754
>because you abandoned being a human
Humans are the lowest possible form you can have in souls games. Even pygmies are using torn-off dragon heads as weapons.
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>>170192863
you wish PCuck keep flaseflagging and die of cancer
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FC is over. thanks for the fun.
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>>170192983
>>170190268
hmmmmmm

I see why u mad
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>>170192903

sure, pass?
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>>170192983
Keep telling yourself that.
"ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME FOR IRRATIONAL HATRED TOWARD PEOPLE ON PC IS AUTOMATICALLY ON PC!"
How do you even function in society?
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>>170192980
Depends. Undead humans have great potential.
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>>170193098
make it dsg
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>>170192983
proof that sonyniggers are the worst.
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>>170192754
>literally everyone trying to become a dragon deforms into a snake man or something even worse, like Oceiros.
I don't think putting the Grand Archives and Archdragon Peak into the same bag is quite right. Archdragon Peak is where actual dragon worshippers congregate to do their holy yiffing and whatnot, the Grand Archives instead are obsessed in the worship of a very specific being for entirely different reasons who just happens to be an Everlasting Dragon, and a defective one at that.
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>>170193120
>How do you even function in society?

he doesn't that's why he's here
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>>170193120
>>170193091
>>170193460
kys>>170193569
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>>170193460
It's this one guy trying to start console wars, saying everyone on PS4 violently hates PC is like saying everyone on PC violently hates PS4.
>>170193569
Fair enough.
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>>170192881
>They cant restart the game if youre still in it
Oh shit, I didn't realise. I'll keep that in mind.
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>>170193445

next to the lever
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>>170193618
Why are you getting angry about this, again?
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>>170193630
>everyone on PC violently hates PS4.
what about the fact PCucks gets mad when bloodborne is brought up here like you own the thread when u dont or all the "they betrayed us bloodborne on pc petition" threads?
kys bruh
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>>170192335
>>170193684
Just happened for the fourth time and I gave up and just did it by myself

God I hate dragonslayer, he's generally pretty easy but then you randomly get stunlocked by his stupid wyvernbutterfly things or he decides to throw out a quick shieldbash where you usually get two hits in
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>>170193905
Yeah, just like how they get mad when someone brings up Demon's Souls?
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>>170193905
>Implying people dont have enough disposable income to play dark souls 3 on the superior 60 fps PC with the largest playerbase and BB on a dedstation 4

I wish they'd put chalice dungeons in DaS3 with +2 rings and slabs as rewards

but who am I kidding you're a shit poster desperately trying to start a console war at all cost.
>>
Is there a /dsg/ discord i am bored
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>>170194154
probably
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>>170193618
nice autistic image. I ain't reading all that garbage nigger.
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>>170193905
I'm on PS4. I got the fucking platinum for BB. I ran maybe eight or so hunters total with more on the way.
If you could cut the irrational anger and insults, maybe there could be a rational discussion on platforms, but your dumb ass is preventing that. You and Lucy should hook up sometime.
>>
>>170194154

Yes there is.
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>>170194208
>>170194268
link when
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>>170194314

when you figure out where it is
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>>170194314

It's available in two different sources from this thread alone if you read
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>>170194359
hmm, i could just post vocaroo links and be a cool vocaroo fag!
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>>170194443
or you could look around
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>>170194352
lolz triggered ya nerd
>>
>Go back to das1
>Mom mask hornetstabs everywhere
you think they would have stopped trying since the game has been solved
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>>170193148
For murder or becoming abominations, yes.
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>>170194538
Sorry i'm retarded, forgive me for this, just this once.
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>>170192732
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>>170193491
You're right. I'd much rather turn into a snake man with all their senses than a blind, insane "dragon", which seems to be the endgame of the Paledrake cult. Crystal sorceries seem to lead to inevitable, crippling insanity. Though being a crystal sage and being able to teleport and multiply yourself would be awesome. The people in the archives don't seem that hollow, at least. They're just fanatical about their research.

And the next worse thing than a dragon worshiper is an arrogant wizard obsessed with sorcery.
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>>170194352
If I post that username, I'd be opening a door for all sorts of shit to come my way, probably from you first and foremost. At the same time, you'd probably still think I'm on PC due to the lack of any brain cells in your head.
I don't need to prove myself to a lunatic. You really need a hobby or something that isn't calling everyone on a general for a game on its relative last legs a PCuck.
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>>170194747
You don't.
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>>170194868
oh sorry for wasting your time then
bye
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>>170194576
>For murder
Whatever we "murder" seems to put up their best fight, so I think that's a pretty good gauge for their power. Humans are the best, it's just everything is trying to fuck with them.
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>>170195418
it's like playing mario, but you have infinite lives. eventually you'll get it
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Can anyone on PC help me kill oceiros?
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>>170196551
i'll place my sign outside his door
pass dsg
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>>170196749
kk im here
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>>170188795
I was spoiled on it way beforehand by that fucknugget games journalist and then /v/ on this thread.

I just wanted to enjoy discussing shit with /vg/ up until release and all kinds of fags had to go and purposely ruin surprises.

>>170192361
Someone needs to screencap this post because it's good enough to be used as a standard reply to all the "y this boss so easy?"
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What's a good weapon for a quality build? Currently using a +3 claymore.
First time I cleared the game I rand dex/faith.
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>>170196860
>>170196749
i saw you and tried to summon but it said you timed out
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>>170196879
Eh
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>>170194839
What if the Pcuck shitposter is also the 4 kings and enb shitposter?

>>170194152
Largest playerbase of Souls games is on the ps4 tho'. But a metric shitton of them are also nips sooooooooo......
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>>170196983
make yourself hollowslayer, it's a better claymore basically
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>>170196983
literally everything
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>>170196983
Most weapons are quality. The claymore is good and most greatswords in general are good on quality.
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>>170197203
yeah summoning has been exceptionally weird for me lately
it should work if you keep trying though
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>>170197267
>What if the Pcuck shitposter is also the 4 kings and enb shitposter?
The lore implications would put us leaps and bounds ahead of our current state.
But how do I know you aren't the PCuck shitposter? Or how do you know I'm not?
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>>170183019

Check out Untended Graves, which is a representation of when the Fire is gone

It's still full of Hollows and monsters that will kill you

The Dark isn't serene/joyful. It's just the same shit near the end of the Age of Fire, just dark.
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Made my first Sorcerer in DaS3 and was curious, is it better to infuse a w/Crystal or infuse it with Raw and use GMW/CMW?
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>>170197410
No way to know for sure, is there?
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>>170197546
Crystal infusion is more practical as you won't need to apply buffs constant. If you can look past that raw+buff gets you more damage.
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>>170197636
We can only be sure of our own selves.
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>>170197496
They're just what's left. All humans have returned to their natural state with the Dark and all that remains are things that never had humanity.

It doesn't matter that the world went to shit, because humans don't live there any more, they exist within the Dark itself.
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>>170189412
Edited your stuff together

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12ZGfMYCTiT
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>>170197496
Also remember that the Deep, a place that was often described as peaceful and serene at first, just spontaneously degenerated into by far the most horrifying abyssal realm so far if the nature of the beings who worship it are any indication.

So even when left to its own devices the Dark explodes into insane beasts.
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>>170197685
Trying to decide what to infuse, thinking Sellsword Twinblades. Would appreciate any input.
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>>170197713
don't be so sure about that
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What's the point of having Rosaria's Fingers's crest equiped if you receive pale tongues when invading as a red phantom with no covenants equiped?

Am I missing something here guys?

And what's the difference between Blue Centinels and Darkmoon Blades?
Both give you the same as far as I know.
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>>170180212
Faraam Armor, dual longsword, dragonslayer axe and Dragonrider halberd are all good options.

If it helps this is an original dark souls 2 "hero" concept. And it has dual swords.
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>>170198170
there is none
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>>170198170
There is no real difference, the devs just made stupidly overlapping covenants for some reason.
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>>170198190
Shit that looks like Benharts helm.
>The guard on the second sword
Jesus that looks nice

>>170198170
>Fingers
You get the 2-in-1 tongue for murdering blues
>Sentinels V Darkmoons
Not a fucking thing aside from small change in the hue of the blue
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>>170198357
Isn't it easier to be summoned as a Sentinel than as a Darkmoon?
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>>170198128
>hurrr didnt post the image
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>>170198292
>>170198357
>>170198380

Then why not make a Dragon Covenant instead a Blue 2.0?
I mean, there is a entire area dedicated to dragons and a gesture that shows loyalty to them.
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First time player for DS3 here. Just finished BB and decided to start DS3. Any advice?
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>>170197991
For infusion your damage is going to come from either fai, int, or both. Good thing is to choose a weapon that is easily wielded so you don't waste too many points in str or dex. Sellswords only need 10 str and 16 dex so its a solid choice.
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>>170198474
because little thought and love was put in ds3. miyazaki just wants to be done with souls
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>>170198478
Go play Dark Souls 1 or Demon's Souls.
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>>170198478
>any advice?
DS3 is the most self-explanatory Souls game and since you've alreasy played BB you should have very easy time adjusting to the game.
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Can anyone on PC help me with champion gundyr?
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Haven't played Ds3 in a few months or followed any news about it and was wondering if anyone could answer two questions for me
>Is Faith still shit?
>Is the DLC any good/worth buying?
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>>170198478
Play the first one before you start 3 as most areas are a nod to 1.

Also the lore and shiet.

>>170198592
This so much.
DS3 is such a cashgrab, man.
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>>170198548
Honestly trying to decide between doing that or just using MLGS or GSoJ. Don't want to use Crystal Rapier personally cause the Dex reqiurement is higher than I'd like. Was looking at Longsword, Sellswords or Falchion, kind of going for a Saracen sorcerer theme.
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>>170198724
>Yes
>Yes
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>>170198474
Dragon Covenant might plausibly get added in TRC if they add new shit to Dragonform.

>>170198592
DS3 has a lot of love put into it but it's also obvious that content was clearly rushes or segmented away into the DLCs.
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>>170177972
Kind of a shame there isn't a bigger mod community for Dark Souls

And that DSModT's author abandonded it basically cause no one used it
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>>170198478
The early game is pretty straight forward (just make sure you find Greirat (shopkeeper) in the High Wall area before moving on to the Undead Settlement.

I have mid game advice but you probably won't remember it by then.
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>>170198592
Miyazaki wasn't the only one who made Ds3, it wasn't a solo mission by him. He isn't even a real developer.
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>using chameleon when invading
>that visible panic as you decloak right next to them in the middle of a bunch of enemies
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>>170180212
I went with what he had in the TGS demo
>straight sword with dsa in offhand
>an ultra greatsword (Lothric UGS is a good sub for Pursuer ugs)
>A shortbow (really miffed they got rid of bow's improved moveset, being able to fire while advancing or while on backing up)
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>>170197286
Personal opinions need not apply.
>>170197280
I'll look it up.
>>170197325
Okay.
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>>170194152
>tfw you'll never live with Gywnevere and Gwyndolin
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>>170197958
Hahahaha holy shit, nice man.

saved
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>>170181983
Them blocking is a boon, there's a chance you will hit while they are in guard frames and guardbreak thier shit, which is a free riposte
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>>170197959

Seriously, it's either some good, which turns to shit, or always shit.

At least with the Fire, it's apparently ok up until the end.

By all evidence, the Dark and its offshoots, are just shit.
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>>170199710
>Personal opinions need not apply

Not that anon but in DS3 you can infuse ANY weapon with a refined gem and it will work.

There's no point in using anything else except for cosplay runs or to cripple yourself.

Shitty game design if you ask me.
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>>170198779
It's funny, I remember when 2 was the cashgrab.
Even before SOTFS and the DLC was announced, that was a pretty common derision of the game.
Nothing really changes, I guess.
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>>170199909
Kinda forgot my question, thought he just said that the claymore was shit.
But some weapons must be better for quality.
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>>170200225
Mmm not really.
Most weapons escale in C-C B-B with refined gem.
The claymore for example has become a quality weapon instead of a STR one.
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how to change gender with ce

can i get banned for doing this
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Can anyone on PC help me with the dragon-slayer armor??
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>>170200225
Claymore is a good quality weapon. It's best at 25/25 (40/40 if you have the points) instead of 40 str or 40 dex. Other quality weapons are the longsword, and most halberds.
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So what the hell does estus taste like?
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>>170201304
Salty coins and milk.
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>>170200380
It was a quality weapon always though
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>>170201304
Something warm. I like to think it tastes like my mom's chicken soup, since that's what reminds me of home.
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Im respecing my char in DaS2
How much should i put into adaptabillity?
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>invade in lothric castle
>host has a phantom and is standing by the boss fog
>sort of just start attacking the white phantom without paying attention and notice he has a lot of fucking health
>the host decides to bumrush me and as I roll back, I see that I was just attacking an NPC summon, Eygon

I wonder how idiotic I looked, or maybe they thought I was messing around? I killed them though, and it was pretty obvious they were new. I feel like whenever I'm fighting someone who seems new to the game, they always seem to pump Vigor. Makes it a chore to kill them because you know they're going to try and drink all their estus too.

Although, this has helped me really appreciate how good those Undead Hunter Charms are. I never used them in the other games, but they're so satisfying in this game
>tag a player with a charm while they're low
>they run off to panic chug
>get a free finishing blow as they cluelessly shake their Estus Flask around
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>>170198779
Fucking retard. Edgy lord. Dark Souls 3 is the best in the series.
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>>170201304

Pepper spray.
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>>170201579
If I remember correctly, 20 was the sweet spot
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>>170201579
Enough to put your agility at 100.
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>>170201304
I like to think it tastes warm and vaguely sweet, but not especially flavorful.
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>>170202057
Are you ok dude?
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>>170202057
>being this mad over a videogame
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>>170201304
Warm sugary water
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>>170202057
I respect your opinion but I humbly disagree
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>>170202057
Wow, it's like people can have opinions and different views n shit.
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>>170201304
The Siegbrau text implies it doesn't taste of much.
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>>170201304
Warmth and nothing

kind of just like warm water maybe with a few bits of charcoal in it
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>>170203274
From my understanding, it's the undead that can't really taste much
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Does Warmth heal bosses effectively?
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>>170198905
What about Intelligence? Is it still only viable with full glass cannon cheese builds? I don't wanna play a playthrough with no magic, that's boring.
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>>170203569

Maybe this is the issue.
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>>170203854
dont they regenerate them after death?
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>>170204026
Well, Horace didn't.
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>>170201579
26 gets you 100 AGI
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>>170201579
If you're a caster, put into Attunement first, since that also raises Agility. Once you have Attunement where you want, start raising Adaptability until you reach 96, 99 or 100 Agility.
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Which is probably better to infuse with Crystal, Falchion or Sellswords?
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>>170174370
>oh hey this looks cool
>oh they banned a bunch of random shit because they're butthurt about them

nah
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>>170204483
>random
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>>170204421
Personal preference. Falchion has lower requirements and isn't two blades, allowing for an offhand staff/shield.
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>>170201304

ORANGE JUICE
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>>170184462
You'd be surprised. There are so many walls that don't connect properly so if you look in the corners you see outside the level geometry. Ds3 is the epitome of lazy.
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>>170205167
I was going to use Heysel's pick, but I never realized that it's moveset is shit. If all you could do was spam r1, they could have atleast thrown in some variations to the swings.
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>>170203675
Im playing with this >>170190880 build having the time of my life.
You can always resort to oneshotting but this is by far more flexible and fun, the playstyle revolves around being a sneaky son of a bitch for the most part.
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Guys rate my build
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>>170205363
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>>170190653
what's wrong with curved greatswords? the old wolf pube sword is decent enough to not be op
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>>170205363
That straight sword has no virginity scaling. I would respec.
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>>170193618
>literally have had no gamebreaking bugs whatsoever
I still don't understand why people buy shit day 1 in this day and age
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>>170204092
But Anastacia did. Goddamnit, from has handled undead npc interactions poorly. I'd like this
>kill them once, get a few souls, they stop helping you but still talk to you, with a more hostile tone (think of how chester talks after killing his phantom)
>kill them twice, get less souls, they stop talking to you altogether, takes just 1 damage point dealt to aggro
>kill them three times and they immediately aggro on you on sight
>killing them a total of 7 times makes them hollow fully. Next time you load the area there will be a corpse on their usual (or last, if they roam) spot, from which you can loot their stuff
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>>170206351
That sounds cool, but really really annoying to get their gear from them.
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>>170190880
>a Clutch Ring
>Lloyd's any Ring
>Hornet Ring
>for PvP

You might want to rethink those Hornet Ring scrub.
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REEEE WHO THE FUCK DESGINED THE FRIGID OUTSKIRTS? THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST FUCKING MEME AREA OF THE ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES

FUCK THAT PLACE
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>>170198170
>>170198357
I feel they wanted to make Blades like what they were in DaS, but probably ran out of time trying to make it work. Why they didn't just remove the covenant though and leave Yorshka as just the giver of covenant rewards for Sentinels, I have no idea.
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>>170206424
It would be an added way to get their shit, not their primary one. In a perfect condition the questlines would fit seamlessly into the game and would invariably end with the NPC going cuckoo. Siegward's questline is pretty hardcore. Lautrec's was ok. But I don't to see undead npcs being that affected by 1 death and I don't want to see ds2's "this one of a kind sword has been in my family for generations, but go ahead and take it along with all my stuff, I got spare" bullshit
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>>170206783
>PvP
>Implying that Im going to touch arena or duels

>Implying Im not going to hide like a faggot until the host forgets about me and backstab him for a gorillion damage.
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>>170207164
yeah it is the worst area in the series by far
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>>170174370
>discord

No wonder a fucking circlejerk would ban anything that hurt their feelings.
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>>170207164
it's meant for co-op
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>>170207186
Have you done -any- PvP? I'm not talking about arena or duels you mong, it is literally impossible to backstab people in any PvP.

Also they will damage you pretty quickly so Lloyd's Rings are useless, and Clutch Rigns are for the same reason. Damage is nowhere near as avoidable in PvP as it is in PvE, enemies and bosses are predictable and have breaks between attacks, other players not so much.
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Never played AoA. Is SL73 fine?
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>>170207164
the area is GOAT when you're first navigating through it and experiencing those intermittent blizzards
though the reindeer quickly ruin that experience
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>>170207387
That doesnt fucking excuse its shitty game desgin
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>>170205363
>those proportions

Is he a keebler elf?
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>>170207164
Shit like that makes Dark Souls 2 the worst game in the series for me. It's like all the bad parts are so shitty they drag down the rest of the game with it.
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>>170207392
There's close to no way to spot somebody invading in ariandel with the amount of enemies and snow in the area.

Also I pack Soul Stream for the invasions I cannot get close to the host.
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>>170207396
Maybe a little low but doable.
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>>170207527
You never answered my question. You've never PvPed have you?

If the target is moving AT ALL, your backstab will not land. They have to be standing completely still to backstab, because whilst the game will teleport enemies back into your backstab, it does not do the same for other players. Backstabs are useless in PvP.
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>>170207396
FROM build it with ~70SL in mind, you're perfectly in range.
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>>170184462
>>170205268

You guys realize that every single Fromsoft soulsborne game does this? In DS1 Lost Izalith next to BoC's bossroom it's extremely noticeable.
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>>170207705
I have 2 characters at SL125 and other 2 at 80 for PvP only.

I made this build because the overall PvP experience in this game is horrible and its a roll-spam r1 fest with no variety whatsoever.

I've played a lot of DaS1 PvP and I know about teleporting backstabs my man, and yeah, in this game performing a bs is hard but not impossible.

This is a for fun build eitherways.
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>>170207812
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>>170207561
>>170207712
Excellent.

I'm glad I decided to buy the DLC now, because I imagine by the time the 2nd DLC is out, the Season Pass price won't be available, yes?
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>>170207953
b-b-but muh infallible DS1
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>>170207905
>its a roll-spam r1 fest
That's because you can't backstab. If backstabbing was viable at all, you would have people backstab-fishing just like DaS.

>no variety whatsoever
There are several weapons with interesting movesets and WAs, you could choose to use one of those and instead you just want to be a boring, backstab-fishing Hornet Ring scrub.

Oh well, I tried to warn you, have fun being two-shot by anyone with an optimised weapon.
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>>170207970
They're not going to stop selling a season pass just because they're doing a "GotY" or second DLC. It's to encourage people to spend a large lump sum at once instead of buying only the pieces of DLC that get good reviews.
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>>170207354
mad cuz bad?
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>>170207953
Yep this looks pretty bad. I spotted something like this in Bloodborne too, in Castle Cainhurst.
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Can anyone on PC help me kill dragonslayer armor real quick?
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>>170208307
You mad cause regen hurts your feefees? You mad cause casters beat you too many times? Lmao.
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>>170208069
1 fags are worse the 2 fags to be honest. The
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>>170208201
Backstabbing is not viable in the least and parrying is somehow viable but not reliable against some weapons.

I only play off-meta shit anon, and as much as I try nothing will surpass a +10 Refined weapon so I have to try shitty builds to have some fun.

The way invasions are programmed makes most builds absolute shit and Arena is a 1v1 me bro gamemode so I could just place my sign in londo an the result would be the same: washing pole, estoc, etc.
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>>170208439
A-Anon?
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>>170208345
sign at fog gate, pass dsg
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>>170208345
anyone?
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>>170208439
>>170208439
Oshit I think ENB just garrotted this anon from behind

h-haha, dark souls 1 is the best in the series right guys? guys?
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>>170208630
why did you leave?
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>>170208809
lagged pretty bad and couldn't go through the fog, sorry
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>>170208525
>I only play off-meta shit
Ie. "I only play shit that isn't actually viable". Mmkay.
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>>170208857
im back, try again?
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>>170208887
Hollow weapons are sort of viable aren't they?
And even then, yeah, usually off-meta stuff is not viable because meta weapons are just too good and people want to win.
What's the problem.
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>>170208421
how are casters related to regen?
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What's a logical explanation behind /dsg/ having such a hate boner for anything that's even near meta? Not just meta itself. Shouldn't you feel good cause you beat someone using a superior playstyle and weapon/setup? Doesn't it make you feel good to point down at their corpse? It sure does for me, I love fighting metafags.

What makes it bad that a person wants to be optimal in their play? Why is it considered faggotry and not fair game?
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>>170209052
>Shouldn't you feel good cause you beat someone using a superior playstyle and weapon/setup?

>R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1

Wew.
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>>170209052
>Doesn't it make you feel good to point down at their corpse?
There's a hole in this theory of yours, because people wouldn't be salty about it if they could beat them consistently enough to point down on them. So they lose, tab out, post their frustrations here and continue with whatever they were doing.
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Can anyone on PC help me kill dragonslayer armor real quick?
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>>170209028
>no surge, no regen spells, nothing with innate regen
>only 2 ashen per fight

That means casters are gonna be more passive cause they can't keep putting out more spells. Why the hate for regen? The match is only 2 minutes ffs.
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>>170209021
You don't seem to understand the difference between hard to use/implement and not viable. Backstabs aren't just hard to pull off, they're essentially impossible.
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>>170209237
On my way, putting down sign at fog gate.
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>>170209326
make dsg the pw if u can
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>>170208224
Oh, well that's convenient, because I've already bought every DaS DLC, and I'd obviously want to play the new DLC too, so it's nice that I can buy it a little bit cheaper than $15 a piece.
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>>170209241
2 ashen is plenty unless you're retarded enough to just spam css and nothing else
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>>170209160
Oops, my phrasing was bad. I meant you beating someone else that was using a better setup with your inferior one.

>>170209215
Hmm. I guess you're right on that but I feel like I have a better winrate against metafags than weird builds cause I fight them so much. But I don't get salty when I lose to meta cause I know I got obviously outplayed even if it is spam
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>>170209241
>Why the hate for regen? The match is only 2 minutes ffs
It promotes passive play as you can't outregen dps, so you have to keep your distance to actually make it worth something.

refer to: https://youtu.be/YkEbHnV33uI?t=8610
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>>170209314
>essentially impossible.

Honestly, surprising someone from the back using spook and hidden boddy is pretty easy if they are focused in another matter.

For example, if you invade in a place full of enemies and the guy is cleaning you can search for the opportunity and just bs them when you can.
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>>170209241

2 ashtus is perfectly enough starting from a full bar per fight unless you do nothing but use Chaos Bed Vestiges/CSS which you shouldn't be doing anyway as a caster. Most good sorceries in particular have very low FP cost,
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>>170209603
I'm happy you've found success with it, but people can just move/roll out of the animation in my experience, I don't know if I've ever gotten backstabbed either.
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>>170209580
That's because you can't punish someone using a great shield for the most part.

Add the infinite rolling and stamina regen and you have the worst pvp of the series.
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>>170209770
I really couldn't tell.
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>>170209527
>>170209737

So that just makes casters like mages spam hms, dart and backpedal flashsword cause those are efficient spells. No one is gonna look for huge nukes like css or black serpent into vestiges. Pyros are gonna bursting fireball or passive blackflame.
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>>170209761
Only in low level, sadly. I will try to invade tonigh at SL 98 and see how that goes.
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>>170209603
Spook and Hidden Body don't matter, if that person is moving (which they generally will be) at all you won't get the backstab anyway. In your example with the guy "cleaning", he will be moving constantly from enemy to enemy...
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>>170209326
thanks homie
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>>170209912
Only a thought but...Shouldn't range matter in the bs animation?
For example, someone using a spear shouldn't have to get in the same range as someone using a dagger to perform a bs.

Just a thought.
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>DaS 3
>upgraded pyromancy flame to 10
>just realized i LOCKED MYSELF INTO THE +7-+10 UPGRADE BRACKET FOR SUMMONS AND INVASIONS

Anons, convince me I didnt just fuck up my entire save file. I love helping people, am I really missing out on a lot of potential summoners? should I just KMS?
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>>170209889
You can't eat through 3 FP bars in a 2 minute fight unless you're spamming nukes
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>>170209903
I have a lot of fun with low level PvP. Seems more wholesome and you can do some pretty fun things. Crucifixion Woods SL30 is probably my favorite for it.
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>>170210183
better get your ass to 120 and arena pvp you scrub ;)
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>>170210183
What SL?

I'm at SL72, so +10 is a nice place to be. Fully upgraded weapon, and most people in the area I'm in have gotten plenty of Chunks by that point, so they're within range.
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>>170210351
whats worse is this is the character I just finished getting every armor set on. I followed all the NPC quest lines precisely to get all the armor sets
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>>170210183
Just level to 125 altogether, upgrade all your shit to +10. You don't want to stay in the kiddy pool forever, do you?
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>>170209917
No problem. Don't see why you needed my help, you were blowing through him no problem. I guess having an extra guy there to distract him helps.
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>>170210171
No, backstab is only active at a certain range (ie. hugging them), it doesn't factor in the weapon type at all.
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>>170210467
SL 88 (i was 83 but yoel made me level up 5 times)

I used to be capped at +8 so I could connect to +5's
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>>170209737
>Most good sorceries in particular have very low FP cost,

Ah yes, caster fights that only consist of homing soul mass, farron dart, fire surge, black flame/serpent, and combustion. Sounds great.
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>>170210594
Yeah, I know but should it be really like this?

Shouldn't it be "more range less distance needed to bs"?
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>>170210261
Since every match is shorter than that of the arena and is decided by whomever has more hp at the end, it just means casters have to be more passive or just even the general body. Cause casters are generally more squishy and have to rely on space, and what's better at creating space than cheap low stam spells to spam?

And the HP rule. It's it going to be based on hard numbers at the end of the fight or percent left? Cause that means a person with 50 vig and fap,life rings has the advantage over a caster with sub 40 vig unless it's by percent.
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>>170210183
You should be fine for any area post Dancer, some people even have a +7 weapon by the time they reach Irithyll because they get the Chunks from Pickle Pee and looting Smouldering Lake.
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>>170210261
But how is a caster going to win in a 2 minute bracket except spamming nukes at someone who's going to try to close the gap as soon as possible?
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>>170210787

It's by percent. Wouldn't hurt to actually read the rules, would it?
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>>170210742
Only good spells in the game, lol
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>>170207953
Shit, I thought I was the only one to notice this.

Also you can find similar shit in Anor Londo, Darkroot, and Royal Wood around the cliffs. In particular a lot of the models don't really fade well into the black shadows or scenery so you can easily see where they just cut off.

If you want a really bad instance, in DaS2 the hallway in front of the Mirror Knight's arena look to the drop offs on each side.
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>>170211047
It's possible to win just fine with darts and soul arrows
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>>170211047
Throw darts and soulmass.
Roll for 2 minutes, with bloodring.
Win because you have more HP.
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>>170210658
I was at +8 til I accidentally upgraded when I was trying to upgrade something else lol, but I was looking for an excuse to move past the low level PvP anyway. It's really fun, but I never see it a permanent thing.You can always make a new character if you don't like PvP now.

I'd say just try it. You may like it better. I mostly invade though, but it's a ton of fun. Either way, if they're around your level range, I would think they'd have their weapon upgraded to +8 like you did, but I don't have any proof. I wouldn't worry.
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>>170210820
hm, maybe ill make a new character for low-level summons then

my point of existence is honestly just to help people with bosses. I like being the saving grace, the hero. I'm not into PVP

Also making my character like an NPC
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>>170210742

That's what caster fights are already.
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>sl40
>+3 weapon
Am I good for blue sentinel summons?
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>>170211241
>>170211216
these

and with the no throwing daggers I guess I'm forced to bring a crossbow.
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>>170211047
>>170211175
>>170211241
>>170211216
>>170211348
>>170211283
>want to discourage passive shittery
>make it the only feasable thing to do
Great fucking rules
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>>170211397
Casters aren't even good lmao. Passive play is the best they can get and even then it's still weaker than quality.
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>>170211397
This is what happens when you make half-assed rules. These rules were a mistake and the reason I'm not participating in this event.
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>>170174370
>discord
>starts first few posts shitposting
>all those rules

You know damn well that someone is going to find a alternative and become a passive bitch then try to pass it off as a clean win in this already dead-before-arrival tourney.
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What's good late game for a pyromancer? The raw Astora straight sword is only carrying me so far.
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>>170211397
Honestly, caster is the worst role in DS3.
I mean, every spell can be rolled and punished except for black flame and other control tools.
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>>170205823
Its a kat
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>>170211526

Yes I'm certain the rules were what was preventing you from joining it.
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>>170203635
I hear if you REALLY want to be an asshole, you try to get summoned to fight Freja, you help knock off one head, but then you cast Warmth. When the second head reaches its damage threshold it will fall off and Freja will no longer be able to take damage, and she can't be beaten anymore.
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>>170211283
Maybe half baked hybrid caster builds, real sorcs/pyros/priests still sling out bigger nuke spells like CBV and CSS. It does real damage and requires more than just a brainless tap on their part for once. It looks more like the end result from this is just dart spammers that run away since killing the opponent isn't even required.

>>170211478
But they can at least try to be aggressive in some aspects, with this ruleset all you'd be doing is telling them to fuck off and just spam surge and darts.
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>>170211783
>they can at least try to be aggressive
no they can't, stop.
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>>170211720
onyx blade or longsword infused with dark/chaos
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>>170211328
is this around the low level meta?

(>>170211256) here, wondering where to cap my newbie-helper/twink-killer character
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>>170211720
Dancer Swords are ok but you can always imbue something in chaos or dark.
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>>170211849
>attempting even the basic throw nuke and punish roll setup isn't being aggressive to a degree
Alright, wise guy, you've completely convinced me by saying "no" and adding nothing to the conversation
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Don't worry guys, I'll wreck the casters for you. I find Crossbow + straight-sword counters them quite nicely.
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Any fight clubs/arenas up?
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>>170212010
There's nothing to add. I have at least 400 hours of pvp experience in this game and fight daily against very good mages and sometimes play as a mage myself. There's nothing you can do besides passive faggotry as a mage and that's still weak as fuck.
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>>170211783
>It does real damage
CBV does roughly 700 damage, that's slightly more than 2 hits from a refined weapon, except being way harder to land, costs about 70 stat points investment, considering you need att, int and fai. Magics in this game are shit.

I guess you can still combo black serpent into CBV, but only panic rolling bakas fall for that trick.
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>>170206424
You could try and make alternate ways of collecting gear, in DS2 you don't need to kill anyone to get their their unique gear. Even though they are assassination quests, you can trick Navlaan by showing him the various objects that can be acquired via nonlethal means.
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>>170211783
PLAY HFTF WITH ME YOU GIANT FAGGOT
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>>170211783
This it's my point. Cause the tourney dislikes passive play and goes out of its way to force mages into passive play.

>>170212176
I disagree on that, you can be aggressive but that usually requires more fp to do so.
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>>170212169
>>170179246
there was one already today
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>>170211783
can you read retard

they banned surge
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Can someone help me kill lothric princes real quick (PC)
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>>170212448

>responding to vincent
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>be darkmoon
>get summons like twice a day
>love helping people
>summoned into the place after pontiff
>guy being attacked, almost dead
>IM HELPING
>black crystals me out
>it wasnt a predatory invader
>it was actually a friendly fight club duel
>i want to die
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>>170212448
So they just spam dart which is mage knife. Our be passive for blackflame baits
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>>170212176
You still haven't added anything. You can aggressively force spacing with certain spells, like forcing movement with Farron Hail to get them in range for something like Flashsword.

>>170212296
The main advantage being range, and CBV can hit around ~800 if you want to weigh out investment/rings. There's also the abyssal pyromancies, fire surge, fire whip, and profaned flame which is good for roll punishing and tricks
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Is the DS3 DLC worth it?
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>>170212567
nothin personnel
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>>170212347
Damn I missed it.
I hope someone sets up another one.
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>>170212342
>I disagree on that, you can be aggressive but that usually requires more fp to do so.
That's completely not worth it.

>>170212605
There. Is. Nothing. To. Add. You're wrong, move on.

>Farron Hail
>Flashsword

It keeps getting better and better.
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>>170212331
>>170212518
??
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>>170211720
How are people still asking this question?
This is the definitive pyromancer's weapon.
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>>170212673
It was a hologram
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what's a decent hexer melee weapons to last me until I get the sacred chime hammer or purple popsicle? something other than the mace or fire longsword.

also: sacred chime hammer or purple popsicle?
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>>170211720
Chaos/Dark Thrall Axe is GOAT, truly the most fun PvP weapon.
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>>170212605
Faggots everywhere create effigies of you to display at their gay pride parades. Faggots pray to your ass five times a day hoping they can one day fit as many cocks in their mouth as you can. In the legends of old, entire towns were able to sodomize you at once, and you would travel the world soley to taste all the cocks you could before you died and ascended to the great glory hole in the sky, where you suck people off all day for all of eternity.
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>>170212754
Do you consider Flashword to be a shit spell?

I use it to punish roles and it seems to be nice, but alas, most of the time Im not in control of the fight so I have to roll first.
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>>170212754
>does a little over a dart's damage and can't be perfectly rolled through while covering a shotgun blast area of a effect
>quick attack with situational moves like when rolling or sprinting and comboes into itself at least once
>it keeps getting better and better
>Heh....you're wrong....KID.....just get out of here.....
I'll go argue with someone else then, it's clear you don't intend to actually say anything.
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>>170212878

Roaring Halberd from Skeleton Lords.
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>doin a faith build
>cathedral of the deep
>executioners greatsword
Wtf how did I not know this weapon existed until now?
Also
>that l2r2
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>>170212761
come on jojo, i wanna get back together with you
things have never been the same since the breakup
i love you
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>>170213004
You can aways buff the EG anon.
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>>170212754
>posts webm that isn't actually showcasing aggressiveness while trying to downplay its worth
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>>170210770
No, that's dumb. The massive Str weapons that already deal tons of damage will then become the best weapons for backstabbing, rather than the small daggers that need the damage boost.
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When was the last time you had fun___ in this game?
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>>170212825
enjoy your 5 damage darts
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>>170213231
today
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>>170212957
>Do you consider Flashword to be a shit spell?
Very bad. Just use an infused sword at that point, don't waste fp and a slot on this filth. Stamina cost is also stupid.

>>170212962
>>does a little over a dart's damage and can't be perfectly rolled through while covering a shotgun blast area of a effect
You act like a good player won't be on top of you and guess what, they will. And if they're hugging your ass, that radius mean SHIT, it's a free backstab. Retard.
>>quick attack with situational moves like when rolling or sprinting and comboes into itself at least once
High stamina cost, fp cost, spell slot and completely not worth it, just equip a dark longsword.
>>it keeps getting better and better
>>Heh....you're wrong....KID.....just get out of here.....
and here comes the /v/. shouldn't you be jerking off about the switch right now?

>>170213143
That's the joke. You get more by using a good spell and doing nothing than using fucking farron hail lmao
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>>170213102
what does an overrated comic have to do with anything

can you discord faggots all just go back into the sewers you came from
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>>170181278
age of ancients was the best desu
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>>170213231
today
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>>170213231
I learned that the hydra in ash lake can fly, so today
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>>170213216
>>170213216
They are harder to bs with since the bs animation is slower iirc
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>>170213231
Today
>>
>tfw the path of dragons and darkwraith covenants used to be one and the same
>tfw its revealed that the primordial serpents are ancient humans that almost ascended to everlasting dragonhood before deciding to embrace the dark and corrupt the dragon-worshiping pygmies.
>tfw the ringed city fell apart for the same reasons the kingdom of Lothric did: Religious Civil war: This time between the new faith of the Way of White and the corrupted dragonwraiths
>tfw the Way of White, Velka's Pardoners, the darkwraiths, and the path of dragon covenants can all be traced back to a single church in the ringed city
>tfw the name of the church comes up as Old Londo's Cathedral
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>>170212878
I don't like either of those all that much. Popsicle is the better choice but I'm not a fan of the greataxe moveset.
Roaring Halberd is good. Scythe of nar alma is okay. Silverblack spear/sickle are alright.
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>>170171269
Why the fuck do you need the DLC to get the ring achievement in dark souls 3, but no other achieves like spells and such?
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>>170213439
Is Ash lake, may I say, the scariest area in the Dark Souls saga?
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>>170213317
>isn't actually conveying any arguments about why the other side is wrong, just saying they're wrong despite the burden of proof to disprove it on them
>YOU'RE JUST /V/
Alright, shitposter-kun, you win this round.

>you act like a good player won't be on top of you and guess what, they will.
Passive players wouldn't be, and they can be good. As was already proven, casters can force spacing that favors them and that's when you use Hail or Farron Flashsword. The former is undodgeable if already in the area and the latter swings faster than a sword, I get you're bad at using your stamina, but there's no reason to just cry about it and then call it shit for everyone.
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>>170213552
I actually find ash lake to be the most comfy area aside from the firelink shrine.
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>>170213231
Today
I was getting angry at havelmoms so I textured Quelaag's muff instead of doing homework like I should have been doing since last night
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>>170213317
Hmm, what about soul greatsword?
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>>170213552
The room before the boss in cove tseldora got under my nerves, ash lake is pretty relaxing desu
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>>170213551
you don't need it
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>>170213668
>that exact moment when you realize how little you are
>black ocean infested with hydras

If there was a way to swim in this game I would never ever do it.
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>>170213589
>casters can force spacing that favors them and that's when you use Hail or Farron Flashsword
They can't. Those spells are very easy to dodge and you can't take the GFS trade. Stop being stupid.

Hail has terrible cast time and the spread only means it's a hindrance at longer range and at close range you get backstabbed. Flashsword has shit range.

>>170213673
Search around for Heysel Pick Soul Greatsword. It's usable.
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Can anyone tell me what exactly the deep is and whether its related to the abyss or not?
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120 or 125. What level should I stop at?
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>>170214026
you know the water that drowned the abyss in New Londo
imagine if that shit got tainted by the darkness

that's the deep
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>>170213850
You can easily HMS > trigger > retreat to create breath in a fight. GFS isn't even on the menu but you've brought it up when it's undeniably a step above all the other weapons, so congratulations on moving the goalposts today.

Hail has a choke that gets tighter the closer you get and forces someone to take damage, the cast time isn't even bad if they're apart from you about one HW arena's worth. I've never even seen someone do more than smack out of Hail, much less backstab. Flashsword's range is dependant on catalyst, but you swing faster and you'd be in its effective range at the point that you'd use it at all.
>>
Fromsoft should have allowed you to save character creation appearance presets
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>>170212645
The first one? Not at the asking price.
The second one? We'll see, but buying the season pass saves you money on both.
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>>170214170
119
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>>170214170
120 if enough for most quality builds and 125 for luxury quality, 125 if you're a caster because you need more vig or end or some shit.
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>>170214210
Isn't there implications that the deep is rising because of all of the humanity that accumulating at the bottom? Like rocks in a bathtub?
And wasn't the abyss associated with water as far back as Artorias of the Abyss?
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>>170214242
You can though
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>>170213231
Today. I killed a host with lightning storm
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>>170214242

Should, could, and did.
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How can I try out the Friede's Great Scythe without obtaining it legit and without getting banned? I want to be able to mess around with it in PVE to see how much I like it.
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>>170214329
If I go to 125 will I still be matched with 120 people?
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>>170213231
Yesterday. Playing ds1 for the first time.
>>
Farron Flashword is a good spell if used with Heretic's Staff and a quick weapon on R1.

Prove me wrong.
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Plz help Xbox one church of yorshka
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>>170212878
Silverblack Spear in Earthen Peak is one of the earlier ones you can obtain. Black Knight weapons scale with both stats so they can also be useful as a stopgap.

>>170213231
Probably February 7, before boss invading was patched out.
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>>170214657
No, I'll just say you're stupid and wrong without actually replying :^)
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What are the best pve miracles?

I'm thinking sacred oath/lightning blade/darkmoon blade/blessed weapon
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>>170214575
Ask someone to drop it for you.
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>>170214604
Yeah, it will. You won't get matched against 100's, though.
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>>170214427
>>170214530
in ds1 and ds2
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Alright, I got a really dumb lore theory.
Velka is the furtive pygmy.
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>>170214810
As someone who's running a cleric right now, Lightning Stake and Dhory's Gnawing are all you need in life. Lightning Blade is also pretty great, but Blessed Weapon kind of... isn't
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>>170214257
Gotcha.
Still can't decide if I should get it or not.
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>>170214810
Any of the heals
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>>170214996
That's kind of how progress works, friend. Features are added to future games after people realize that it would have been awesome in existing games.

Next thing you'll be asking for respeccing and being explicitly asked to go into NG+ in DaS1.
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>>170215208
>heals in PvE
Why
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>>170171269
Buffing your katana won't slow the bleed down will it?
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>>170215006
Yup, you're right, that was dumb
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>>170215348
Cause it's pvp,and it's good if you don't wanna rest at every bonfire
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>>170215348
Being a sunbro and healing your host is pretty fun desu. One of my better moments in coop were with miracle phantoms.
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>>170171269
Is it Rayme or Reyem or something else?
I've been saying Rayme.
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>>170215538
Fame. Now replace the f with an r and your set.
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>>170214863
Hmm, I any chance the 125 meta grows once the next dlc drops?
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>>170174370
>SL 128
C-can I play too please?
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>When you die in a invasion your souls stay where you died instead of where you invaded.

Am I retarded or it was not like this on DaS1?
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Can someone help me kill twin princes real quick (PC)
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>>170215923
It was not ever like this in any of the games.
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>>170215923
In 1 it's where you invade but you return to the bonfire, so you need to invade near bonfires
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>>170215756
125 is very populated, even now, don't worry about it. Arenas and pontiff/swamp invasions are almost instant. If you're still in doubt I suggest you make a backup of your current save before you level to 125 and see for yourself, but I doubt you'd have to go back.
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>>170215923
Yeah, it used to be the place where you were sitting with your red eye stone or whatever.
Many times I gave up millions of souls because I don't want to look for them in the middle of god fucking knows where
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>>170215975
Firing up my price calculator
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>>170216125
Come on man, don't do it if they actually say the plataform
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>>170215404
Well in all fairness, I did have a little bit more thought out than just that.

One thing that is rather consistent with humanity/the dark soul is its mutagen power. It has the ability to turn people into monsters.
But don't take my world for it:
>The Four Kings of New Londo
>The Bloatheads of Oolacile
>Manus, Father of the Abyss
>The Profane Flame's effect on people
>The monstrosities of sin in the profane capitol
>the pus of man
>the pilgrim butterflies
>the rot from the painted world of ariandal
Humanity has the ability to corrupt or twist anything it touchs.

Guess how the Crow Demons are described?

>Miyazaki: I always thought of the painted world as somewhere where things go to escape, and the bird men are no different.
>They were originally designed as worshipers of the Goddess Velka whose bodies were warped by their devotion.
> I think this obsession makes them really interesting characters.
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>>170215989
>>170216090
>>170216104

So...you have to invade with low souls or what?
I nearly died getting my 60k souls back.
It shouldn't be like this, invading is shitty enough without putting your currency at risk.
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>>170215168
Lightning Stake is fucking amazing dude.
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>>170216275
>WHY CANT I FUCK OVER SOMEONE'S RUN AT NO COST TO MYSELF
kek, you invadefags get whats coming to you
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>>170215781

Just use CE to delevel yourself to an acceptable position, make a back-up save before doing anything in case you trigger a warning.
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>>170216275
You either deal with it by swapping a sacrifice ring if it's in the middle of a enemy swarm and running to your pool of souls, or just give them up .
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>>170216094
Okay I'll back up stuff and I'll try it.
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>>170216245
One hole I can point out in your connection is that the Chaos Flame also has the ability to mutate people into monstrous form, as does Seath's crystal research. And neither show signs of being connected to Humanity.
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>>170216391
I'm not touching CE again. I once got banned for 2 months just because I spawned some weapons and shit to try new stuff
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>>170216391
Isn't it better to just reset your SL at the fingerbitch?
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>>170216245
Humanity is supposed to turn people into humans.
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>>170216621
Mommy can only readjust your points, not take them.
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Can someone help me kill twin princes real quick (PC)
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>>170216848
just strafe right lel
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>>170214676
Follow up. Can help you with any Xbox one boss you need. Need pontiff help on new character
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>>170216547
Seath's crystal research and the Chaos flame aren't tied to the painted world however.

>>170216658
Humanity turns people into humans if you burn it in a bonfire.
Wild or Corrupted humanity definitely does not turn you into a human.
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>>170216848
I'll put my sign down at the door in a minute. Password dsg?
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>>170216737
Probably me misremembering then.
Was pretty sure that you could just skip assigning the last points to get a desired SL.
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>>170214575
>>170214861
Is this really the only way?
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>>170217153
yes
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>>170217240
It's a boss weapon dummy, she isn't just going to rent it out for you to try
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>>170216376
Explain me what does the host lose in a game with 2 covenants made to help them, full estus charges and giant tree seeds.
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>>170217334
Alright, sign is down
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>>170215781
fuck off, we big boys league here
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>>170217538
The ability to summon those phantoms, their souls and 30% hp

I actually like this change but I think it should be even more extreme and also affect friendly phantoms. Only guys I'm okay with being immune to losing souls on death are area covenants
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>>170216592

In that case I'd rather not allow that character because then it'll have a bunch of other people come asking why can't they bring their SL 130/140s and so on.

If you want to participate though someone can drop souls/gear for you if you want. Place your Steam or Discord ID in the sign-up sheet along with your planned character name if you want to be contacted on that. Also is a few weeks until the tourney so there is plenty of time to make a new character by yourself if you don't want to ask for help.
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>>170217240
If you're on PC, someone can drop it for you and then scum their save so that they don't lose it.

Or you could just buy the DLC and then beat Friede yourself.
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>>170217538
hosts lose:
-progress
-souls (theyre not as adept at getting them back as you are)
-summons with friends (YES, FRIENDS, A GUY PLAYING THE GAME WITH HIS FRIENDS ISNT A "GANK SQUAD"
-the 2 covenants dont always work (im a darkmoon i get summoned twice a day)

invaders lose
-have to get your souls back if you die

.....huh... wow.... you guys sure have it hard!!
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>>170216592
>banned for 2 months

You're either banned or you're not. INVALID DATA is a warning message that only goes away when they re-check your save. You can keep playing with the warning, no problem.

I can't imagine how you massively cocked up something as simple as spawning weapons to the point you got warned though. Did you spawn a bunch of +10 weapons when your weapon memory was +3 or something?
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>>170217831
>this is what casuals believe
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>>170217831
>be SL 80 Darkmoon
>the covenant is almost as dead as our god

Honestly screw Way of the Blue, screw the host's ability to summon friendly phantoms at will, screw the lack of orb. If invading is rarely fun for y'all red in the thread, being a Darkmoon isn't that much of a riot either.
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>>170217831
This entire post is so stupid that I've typed and deleted a response three times now, at a loss of what to say, so I'm just going to point out that the only way you can get invaded is by adding crutches to make your singleplayer game easier. Exposing yourself to greater risk in order to have +30% health and 2-3 butt buddies to make the game a cakewalk sounds fair to me. If there's no appreciable risk of dying to an invader, you're literally just switching on easy mode.
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>>170218053
The ban expires eventually, yeah. I couldn't play online for that period.
My memory was +10, but I also messed with other dubious stuff to fuck with other cheaters on pontiff, including killing their bosses.
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>>170217831
hosts gain:
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>>170218289
If there's no risk to invading, there'd be nothing stopping people from spamming orbs non stop until they got embers and tongues
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>>170218591
Both the risks and rewards of invading are absolutely nothing. Invading exists to do for fun, and do something different than fighting the same AI enemies. Invasions exist as a mechanic to balance out coop, and also for fun, and as something different than fighting the same AI enemies.
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>>170218591
>there'd be nothing stopping people from spamming orbs non stop until they got embers and tongues

Like...the host's skill to not die against invasions?
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Whats everyone's hopes and fears for the Ring City dlc?
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>>170218901
My fear is that we will never get actually cool or worthwhile sorceries.
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>>170218889
I mean a punishment. You want to keep your ember and summons? You better not die. You want to steal someone's ember and tongue? You need to risk something, your souls
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Tokyo Souls
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>>170219092
You already use a consumable item if you don't have the red eye orb.
And the host can summon phantoms or they will be summoned to help him while the invader is by himself.
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>>170218901

>hopes

Unique weapons in terms of playstyle and/or scaling for one of every build at least while not being power creep.
A decent amount of spells including offensive dark sorceries/miracles that are actually good for something.
Some interesting story on the Dark Soul.
Cool architecture and enemies.
Good bosses to end the series on.
A bonus whatever if you have Ashes of Ariandel already.

>Fears

Weapons that cater exclusively to pure STR/DEX, quality or pyro builds with nothing for FAI or INT.
New spells are niche at best and awful at worst.
Level isn't engaging or well-paced and either feels too short or dragged out.
Bosses that lack character or aren't fun.
Ending the series with more questions than answers.
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>>170219224
And you get the full orb after only 2 bosses at worse. The only people without full orb are new characters
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I really hope they lock the ending behind a ending.
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>>170219316
>Ending the series with more questions than answers.
You've got a bad time ahead of you then lol
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>>170219316
>muh loose ends
>fromsoft
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>>170219174
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>>170219316
What do you have against pyro weapons, man? We need love too.
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>>170218901
>hopes
Faith and Int get something good.
Cool bosses.
I get to kill a snek

>fears
Whatever it is that they're doing by adding new children of Gwyn to the plot scares me immensely.
I don't get to kill a snek
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>>170219730
>Whatever it is that they're doing by adding new children of Gwyn to the plot scares me immensely.
I know man. I'm still confused by how Yorska fits into the family tree.
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>>170219726
DaS3 is one big jerk off for Pyro fags, AoA added an nigh invincible Pyro weapon and a new glove that fucking goes berserk with black flame without even forcing you to get the STR reqs. Chaos and Dark are the best infusions for nonphysical.

Fuck you
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The Yaoi Brothers fight is so, so boring.
It's a estus fight with nothing but a repetitive sequence of attacks by Cripple-san.
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>>170219726

I don't, in fact I want there to be but we already have confirmed a Pyro-casting Curved Sword that will either be god-tier or average at worst along with two pyromancies (one of which might be another pyro weapon). That's also ignoring how the dark weapons the DLC adds will also be pyro-leaning weapons by default.

Meanwhile Faith so far is only shown to have a bow of dubious quality/scaling and possible a War Banner spear but even that's not confirmed with no miracles. And INT has a nuke version of Deep Soul that may or may not be good with no confirmed weapons beyond the Aquamarine Dagger possibly.
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>>170220146
You don't have to get hit, you know
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>>170220146
nah
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>>170215923
>invade a player
>it's a ganksquad
>try to showcase my superior weapon and strategy skills
>die anyway
>bloodstain lingers in ganksquad's world
>pray that I reinvade them so I can regain my souls
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>>170219873
At least with Yorshka I can more or less cover my ears and sing loudly and pretend she's someone else's daughter in a way that doesn't break canon too much [or rather breaks it less than accepting her to be Gwyn's child].

But that banner item specifically singles out a character in the place as "Gwyn's Youngest Daughter" in no uncertain terms, and item descriptions simply can't be brushed away as easily as NPC dialogue can.
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>>170219717
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>>170216376
A ded gaem, yeah. You aren't safe from it either.
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>>170220412
This is so true it hurts.

Dark Souls's PvE is fun for 4-5 but then the PvP kicks in and you stop doing anything besides invading because you are tired of fighting the same fucking enemies time and time again.
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>>170220009
>an nigh invincible Pyro weapon

Wait, which one's that?
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>>170220601
>Onyx
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>>170220634

Ah, yes, of course. Thank you, sir.
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>>170220559
>4-5 runs

sorry im tired
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>>170220260
That was my guess too with Yorshka, she was Gwyn's adopt daughter or something.
I mean, who is Gwyn banging to get all these children.

And then there is Lothric's Queen, who the fuck is that suppose to be?
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>google something related to the Darkmoon Blades for one reason or another
>land up on Fextra because hey, it's google and I'm lazy
>in the middle of the page there's a note: "You can be summoned easily with SL 160"
>SL 160

Supposing that isn't a lie, this raises way too many questions. What the hell are people doing up there? Is that the japanese meta or something?
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>>170221072
Hex/Pyro builds I suppose.
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>>170221072
Contrary to what PvP fags think, most players keep playing and level as they see fit.
Game is active until SL170 at random spots
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>>170220260
>>170220961
"Father Gwyn and Sister Gwynevere" is the exact same oath that Gwyndolin himself recites. She didn't even have a name until he pity adopted her. She's not Gwyn's. In all likelihood, Gwyn was long gone when she was born.
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>>170218131
>Invade as sunbro or madman and encounter blue homos on regular occasion
>try out way of the blue
>it's dead
I don't get it.
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>>170221072
I got invaded four times in two hours playing my SL 200 character.
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>>170174370
Can we ban poise stacking?
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Will I get invasions at SL 56 on NG? Hoping for some online play when DLC comes out
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>>170219174
>>170219717
>>170220391
That's actually a breddy cool concept.
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>>170221072
I've been invaded multiple times on my SL 802 character
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>>170220961
>And then there is Lothric's Queen, who the fuck is that suppose to be?
There's one particular room in Irithyll, the one with the non-respawning Silver Knights, that has three chests side to side.
One is the Leo Ring. One is Smough's Great Hammer. And the last one is a Hidden Blessing.

So Ornstein and Smough's signature items, with the third item being a very rare healing item that is a flask of water blessed by Gwynevere. Except in 3, the item description says it has been blessed by the Queen of Lothric, with the exact same description otherwise.

Honestly unless From is actively attempting to trick players, it has to be her.
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>>170221195
Welp, I'm now convinced she's Priscilla's kid then.
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>>170221738
How is this not fucking obvious when she's got a furry tail
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>>170221738
She is definitely Priscilla's kid.
And also Gwyndolin's.
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>>170221410
Yeah, try irithyll
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>>170221706
Wasn't there a translation error from Jap?
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>>170221837
Priscilla married that Pyromancer invader.

>>170221706
I thought Gwynevere married some fire god or something.
Retcon?
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>>170221913
>Wasn't there a translation error from Jap?
Just like the "First of the Scholars" and everyone mistaking it for being Aldia "Scholar of the First Sin"
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>>170221913
If there was, I am yet to be made aware of it. Seriously though, the item placement just screams on how deliberate it is.
Three items side to side, all directly associated with the characters you meet in Anor Londo's grand cathedral, except one of them has been rewritten from referencing Gwynevere to referencing the Queen of Lothric whose identity we don't rightly know?
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If we go for the theory priscalla or whatever is the Nameless Kings daughter (after having sex with a dragon), and Priscalla is Yorshaka's mother, maybe Gywndalion felt bad so he adopted his nieces daughter.
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>>170222338
I still don't believe anything in the dark souls universe has sexual intercourse and everything, especially gods and their 'offspring' is just spawning them in via magical means or something ridiculous like that.
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>>170222338
Possible parents for Priscilla so far
>NK and a dragon
>Seathe and Gwynevere
>Gywn and a dragon
>Velka and a dragon

missing anyone?
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>>170222770
Could we put her down as a creation, maybe Seath's most successful experiment?
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>>170222770
Seath and Gwynevere make for such an unlikely pairing, but I guess it should be there for the sake of completeness.
That said, Seath's is so horribly mutated I doubt he has the ability to breed with anything. Also this >>170222879, considering creating abominations seems to be Seath's bread and butter.
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Pass: dsg
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>>170221972
Daily reminder that the Dunnel marriage is bullshit.

Original Japanese does not use any word for spouse, wife, lover. It uses literally "companion" or "partner". It's still gender neutral in Japan. The pattern of the painted world is also that people who have lost everything find their way into it and are accepted. Dunnel's ugly ass companion died, he went nuts, wandered into the Painted World, and stayed like the Followers/Millwoods/Corvians/everyone.

This retarded theory spun out of someone deciding that "hideous" must refer to Priscilla, because the first game referred to her as "an abomination with no place in this world", because "shouldn't exist" and "physically ugly" are totally the same thing.

Double daily reminder that Gwynevere married Flann a trillion years ago. He's probably dead or a cuck.
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n-no
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>>170223162
That's technically a happy ending for her and she seemed pretty keen on dying once her duty was fulfilled.
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>>170222240
Alright found it. Can't read moon runes so if anyone can let me know if it's legit.
ロスリックの王妃が祝福したとされる聖水
HPを完全に回復し、全ての異常を癒す
彼女は先王オスロエスの妻であり豊穣と恵みの女神にすら例えられたが
末子オセロットを産んだ後、姿を消したという

Third line: The Queen of Lothric, married to the former King Oceiros, was even likened to a/the goddess of fertility and bounty.
Compared, rather than explicitly being.
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>>170223162
Dumb fucking bitch. Couldn't even beat an old man without help, must've inherited the shit genes if she kept getting parried and riposted repeatedly without healing. A peaceful death is too good for her.
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>>170223323
That certainly makes it a far less overt connection, that's for sure. But all the other elements are there, even with the direct statement of both of them as goddesses of fertility no longer being a thing.
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>>170223323
>>170223323
>trying to explain screamingly obvious lore to people in 2017

Give it up. Nobody plays the game. They just watch lore videos and read reddit threads.
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>>170174370
>I'm SL 130

shit, can I just put it into something useless for my build like luck? I'm only sl 130 to bridge the gap between sl 120 and 150
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Which one was more fleshed out, Lothric or Yharnam?
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>>170223532
It still baffles me that Sirris, who needed our help against Creighton and Hodrick, while we killed them both solo, could possibly be the granddaughter of the Parry King. He must be disappointed in her.
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>>170223532
edgy
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>>170223162
>>170223319
>You fool. Don't you understand?
>No one wishes to go on...
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>>170223753
Something is really fucked about her damage output, even with DMB on an estoc I've never seen her land a hit that exceeded like 80 damage to either of them.
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>>170223753
And he has a hell of a way of showing it
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>>170223802
While we're on that subject
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>>170223753
> the Parry King
Refresh my memory. Whos this again?

>>170223668
I hate how right you are. Honestly, Lore discussions here are better than anywhere else.
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>>170223885

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who's noticed that. I'm thinking they gimped her damage so she doesn't trivialize the fights you help her in.
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>>170223036
Hmm does region matter when playing on pc?
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>>170223998
None other than Holy Knight Hodrick. Guy could parry you handing him something.
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>>170223976
Patches is such a bitch. Can't even take his death with some dignity.
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I really hate dark fags. Why should the 0.1 percent of people in Londor decide the fate of humanity, when 99 percent of Lords of Cinder are humans, and most humans like fire? Selfish cunts.
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>>170224193
But Anon, if we're very very careful and lucky there's a chance that the Dark won't spawn a reality-devouring Abyss who'll turn us all into unnatural abominations maybe!
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>>170224193
I fucking hate those Londor darkfucks too. But linking the fire isn't the answer anymore.
Just look at how pathetic that linking is compared to 1's >>170223868
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why the fug do you bleed even if you block the attack
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>>170224362
And that's why you let the Flame die with some dignity at the hands of the Fire Keeper rather than hand it out to that snake-worshipping Harlot.
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Fight club at High Wall
pass: dsg
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>>170223998
Lore discussions here are already bad enough though.
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>>170224425
>not growing vasculature throughout your equipment
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>>170224479
>The First Flame quickly fades.
>Darkness will shortly settle.
>But one day, tiny flames will dance across the darkness.
>Like embers, linked by lords past."

>"Ashen one, hearest thou my voice, still?"


>"Then, from the dark, they came...."
We lords of the next cycle now?


>>170224635
>Lore discussions here are already bad enough though.
You can only discuss the same topic so many times...
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>>170224635
Because you feel the level of the discussion is not up to standards, or because you don't like that it happens in the first place?

>>170224841
No, we just dead. The next Age of Fire, if there ever is one, and whenever it is, hopefully is completely detached from the previous one and a clean slate for the world. I just want to believe that one second after the firekeeper says he rlast line and credits roll the world realizes that the First Flame is no more and whatever laws of reality are left just collapse completely and everything just reverts into endless fog again.
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>>170225040
Because the discussion mostly stems from people making things up off the top of their head, and then everyone else repeating it without second thought or fact checking. It's not the quality of the interaction itself, but the fact that it all happens atop ten levels of baseless conjecture and outright troll theories that the threads' usual userbase has swallowed without examination.
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>>170225040
Which raises an interesting question, where did gwyn and co come from before the discovery of the lord souls?

>The next Age of Fire, if there ever is one, and whenever it is, hopefully is completely detached from the previous one and a clean slate for the world.

>”When the world rots, we set it afire. For the sake of the next world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside.”

>>170225289
I haven't seen many examples of that around here. Care to name a few?
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I just took the cage in 3-2

Jesus fucking christ
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WHO WILL FIGHT THIS MAN?
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Literally praying for someone to join the fight club
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I just put Raw on astora straight sword, and noticed that on a sl1 deprived, I don't lose AR (despite not meeting the faith requirement). I tested it with priestess ring to confirm. When you put raw infusion on a weapon, does it basically remove the requirements? Or something like that? What about if I use fire or deep infusion? I'm just noticing this phenomenon now and google has no answers.

I read that being understatted makes the weapon art weaker, takes more stamina and your weapon clangs off of "armored" enemies, but I don't know what qualifies as armored. What about for PVP? Do enemies in, say, havels, cause your understatted weapon to clang?
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>>170225780
To clarify, this is a DS3 question
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>>170225289
I think the best type of lore discussion is that which begins by taking into consideration what we know of the setting and the characters, and tries to extrapolate new information based on what is already known and verifiable. I like to think that's what I do whenever I table into theorycrafting, as opposed to just making up sweeping theories without at least a small, firm basis to stand up on.
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>>170225703
>tfw no mana to fight after throwing a gorillion spears
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>>170226054
AND GOT SO FAR
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>>170225703

Can you guarantee it will be free of discord?
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>>170225780
Pretty sure that unless it has a special WA or is a hybrid catalyst, stat requirements in an area that does not scale are pointless.
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>>170226221
Well fucking finally I do not fight like a down syndrome kid
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>>170226710
>>170226710
>>170226710
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>>170226736
Do not use this thread. A certain someone is sniping it 6 posts early every time before bump limit to get the OP to read as they want it to.
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>>170213552
I think the depths are scary for some reason
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>>170225450
Belatedly, for you Anon:

Everyone is Gwynevere
Everyone is Velka
Everyone is related to Gwyn
Everything is a Pygmy
Gods are humans
Manus is a woman
The Painted World is the Deep
Dark Souls 2 never happened
Aldrich is Nito because Gravelord Sword
Seath is responsible for the Abyss because crystals
"Time is Convoluted" means whatever I want it to mean
Different species of Undead
Age of Dark=Age of Ancients
Everyone is secretly a tree or dragon
Occasional unironic insistence that the Carthus Sandworm is Solaire

Most of them are dumb one-offs that I can't even begin to remember all of.
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Im running out of cosplays.
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pls join 6 man brawl on ps4

there's no one on it.
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>>170227554
>Everyone is Gwynevere
Fromsoft isn't helping with the whole "Queen of Lothric" deal

>Everyone is Velka
ok
>Everyone is related to Gwyn
Fromsoft is the one guilty of this. Yorshka and Gwyn's "youngest new daughter"
>Everything is a Pygmy
Pygmies are hollows, the natural state of life before the advent of souls. So this is actually true.
>Gods are humans
They aren't gods in a literal sense anon.
>Manus is a woman
Yes, that one is dumb, but the "daughters of the abyss/shards of manus" isn't helping.
>The Painted World is the Deep
The Deep and the Rot of the Painted World are basically caused by the same thing: Rotten humanity
>Dark Souls 2 never happened
Parts of it are of questionable canon, but yeah your right.
>Aldrich is Nito because Gravelord Sword
Aldrich gets his power from eating humanity, so yeah your right, this is dumb.
Don't know where that Gravelord sword comes from
>Seath is responsible for the Abyss because crystals
Stupid
>"Time is Convoluted" means whatever I want it to mean
Given the amount of time travel in this series....
>Different species of Undead
Again, everyone hollows to their natural state because of a shared common origin.
>Age of Dark=Age of Ancients
Agreed, this is dumb.
>Everyone is secretly a tree or dragon
What the fuck are those hollows on the highwall of Lothric turning into again anon?
Or how about the forest of the fallen giants?
>Occasional unironic insistence that the Carthus Sandworm is Solaire
This becomes a lot less dumb when you take a look at the concept stuff and realize that the chaos bugs were suppose to have a lifecycle.
Also, the chaos flame mutates people into demons and spiders.
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