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MJD Edition.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
If you upgrade to Omega send the referal a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>[soon?] New Probe System
>[March] Balance Tweaks: Focused Warp Scrambling Script
>[March] Balance Tweaks: Fighters, Supercarriers & Burst Projectors
>[March] Mobile Warp Disruptor changes
>[March] Rorqual and Mining changes
>[March] Mining Drone Specialization skill and T2 Mining Drones

Past:
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

Previous >>169843507

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dead corp edition
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>>170095247
Daily Reminder a Caracal Cannot Kill an Interceptor.
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>>170095476
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53180386/
hehehe
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650mm prototype siege cannon
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redpill me on amarr
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>>170096565
no cap
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>>170096565
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/races/amarr/timeline/
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>>170096565
infinite ammo, any colour you want
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Tash Murkon skin for Abaddon or Apoc?

I'm leaning toward Apoc atm because I think the skin looks great on it and the Abaddon looks very nice with default colours
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>>170097081
both are useless ships
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>>170097081
for apoc you should be using cold iron, purity, crimson harvest or victory

abaddon just leave in station it's gross
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>>170097264
>victory SKIN 2.1b
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>"8bil in wallet, anon, with zero isk towards the last three donation drives?"
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>>170097795
>giving autists your API

lmoa

Also its your money, just tell them to fuck off
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>>170097480
purity and cold iron are the best normal amarr skins that you can get on all their ships, and they're cheap as shit
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Please someone create or point a small pirate or lowsec or wh or whatever corp so i can have fun with EVE again, i just cant stand being a nullbabby here in Delve anymore spending 8 hours/day salvaging and mining I WANT TO HAVE FUN
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>spending 8 hours/day salvaging and mining
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>>170099698

I just warp into sites, drop MTU and salvage drones then watch TV
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>donation drive
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>>170099539
Start your own corp.
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>>170102003

i'm kinda new player
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>I WANT TO HAVE FUN
>playing Eve
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What did he mean by this?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60527583/
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>>170099539

What the fuck? Why do you need to do that? Just fly frigs or T1 cruisers and get in fights
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>>170102461
hound best
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>>170099539
There is literaly a 24/7 HED-GP camp fleet in fleet finder. Stop being retarded and ask around
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>It's a NC whelps without caps rerun
>It's a poison kevin blames his fleet subplot
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>name your alliance after a really shit group to mock them
>your alliance is really shit and everyone mocks you
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Rate my hanger
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>unironically flying a crow

0/10 sorry
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>>170104792
>Caldari
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>dscan
>Simulated shiptype
>*Simulated shiptype
>playername's shiptype
>Doctrine shiptype
>Shiptype
>.
>Hi
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I've played since 2007 and I have 4 ships currently in 2 stations and no assets anywhere else other than Jita.

I obsessively control my assets and keep as much as possible in isk form
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>just want to keep playing eve and join drunk fleet later
>girlfriend getting back in an hour

FUCK SAKE
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>>170106329
Dump girlfriend, date Eve.
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>>170104792
Stratios and Astero are acceptable.

Trash everything else. No, don't sell it or reprocess. Trash.
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>>170106067
Is inflation real or just a meme?
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>>170106429

Eve doesn't have a butt and vagina though, she's also pretty great but I just won't be able to have time to myself this weekend which sucks.

>>170107138

Inflation as in what? Bulging bellies? No its not
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>>170107138
It's worse. Memes are real, anon.
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>>170107301
I don't know about vagina, but it definitely has a butt. There's plenty of butts in the caldari ship lineup.
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Is Kevin in NC.?
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What's the best ship to bring on drunk fleets?
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>>170109103

The ship you find the most fun to fly
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What ship is the most fun to fly in a drunk fleet?
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>le drunk fleets xDD
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>>170109103
>Try harding in drunk fleets
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>>170109103
whatever you can afford to lose
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oneiros
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twoiros
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threeoiros
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twopocalypse
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>solo pvp autist spends 6 hours roaming your home
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>>170114529
>you spend 6 hours in station
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>I do whatever I want because roamer is risk averse autist who won't engage anything that can shoot back
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>because everything "that shoots back" happens to be hics with cynos
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>>170114529
>100s of people dock up and stop playing their videogame because 1 person came to their space
>brag about it

What is this new brand of cuckery?
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>>170115070
>things that never happen

>>170114997
>10 thrashers gang
>take a drake and go after them
>they run
>come back with 4 griffins
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>domination carbonized lead s
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>>170107138
Do you even know what inflation is?
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>that one ship that's complete fucking shit
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>>170119284
Best ship
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>>170119284
Safest travelship outside of null and J.
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>Best looking ships are armor fit
>Hate armor fits because muh speed
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>>170121076
yeah those armour reps really slow you down huh
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>>170121132
>active fit
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>>170121241
so buffer tank structure then
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>>170121241
get good
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>>170119284
Stop shittalking my waifu

Seriously though I love the design on this thing but I can't find a practical use for it that some other T3D wouldn't do better
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I hope they make t3c's more like t3d's
maybe keep the subsystems but make the system more streamlined so that you use 3 subsystems in any one loadout and those are the 3 modes you can go into. something like 10 subsystems per cruiser so there's still a lot of combinations
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>>170124153
>I'm retard: the post
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>some faggot ratter gets killed in anom
>he posts gf
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>>170124496
I mean yeah your post is very retarded anon
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>>170124701
gf
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>>170123117
isnt it the best brawler now?
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>>170124153
>completely redesigning T3C
Not going to happen
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>>170124846
That's actually a good point. It does brawl pretty well, but it's a bitch to find fights in it unless you go to FW, and even then nobody's going to engage.
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How is targeting speed determined? My alt's nightmare takes 12+ seconds to target BS rats.
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>How is targeting speed determined
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>>170126193

Your scan res against the signature of the target. You should train all your targeting skills to at least IV
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>>170126193
Sig radius and scan resolution
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>>170124846
you can't brawl or do anything effectively with 100m/s base speed
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So, i've been away from EVE for like 2 years, and i'd like to start fresh on a new account.

I plan on doing security missions for a few days and heading to 0.0 space, but i don't intend to have alot of player interaction

is Providence still No Red Don't Shoot?
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Join Dronelands today! Low populated areas, cheap rent systems, quiet ratting space. Comrade xXDEATHXx wants your money.
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>>170127916
>no red don't shoot

Literally doesn't exist anywhere
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>>170128146
it used to when i played
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>>170128440

Everyone just wants fights now. If someone isn't blue they're out to get you
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>>170128507
that sounds like a piece of shit
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>>170128551
Sounds like a certain game you play
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>injectors too expensive to buy with an hour of vni ratting
Fucking hell
I just want to be a lazy cunt piece of shit and spend my isk on spaceships to blow up instead of paying for the education of said spaceships pilot
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>>170128146
provi are still nrds yes
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>rockmuncher joins horde and joins comms
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>>170130598
No hang on wait what
I thought he asked for something like 7b/month to do that
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I just finished all the agent missions and the game seems fun.

Does every corp require me to be really involved with the game? I just wanna have fun.
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why would anyone bother mining? Selling corpses is way more profitable
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>>170132043

Generally small corps will expect more from you as you're a bigger piece of the puzzle so to speak, but there are plenty out there that say "RL comes first" etc and don't really care
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>tfw no nightmare waifu
feels bad man
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Hey guys haha, what do you feed your /dogs/ haha
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>>170134737
paste
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>>170134737
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>>170097795
>rat all the time
>probably 10-15% of the entire corp's expenses are paid by my taxes
>anon why don't you help the corp out more
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@everyone what do I eat for dinner?
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>>170134737
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>>170114997
>decide to actually fight pvp autists for once
>they drop black ops on us
>gg in local
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>>170128098
>tfw paying rent in 1 weekend due to autists dualboxing carriers
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>>170128824
>700m
>1 hour
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>rent
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what do u play eve wit??
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>>170135249
epic meme dear sir, upvoted and retweeted :)
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>no reds bother you in comrade xxdeathxx space
>no alliance CTA autism
>get to learn russian from russian autists
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Do we have a discord channel?
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>discord
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Amarr
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>>170135249
4670k
R9 380
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>>170135974
White stag discord.
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>>170135201
>reading comprehension
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>>170140530

>>170128824
>injectors too expensive to buy
>with an hour of vni ratting
>wants to buy 1 700m injector with 1 hour of ratting
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>>170142721
could be done with two ishtars with perfect skills and at least 1 decent drop from a rare spawn, which commonly spawns every hour to hour and a half.
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Weapon Tiercide when?
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>>170142721
Exactly. I was complaining about the price of injectors. What's your point?
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What's a fun ship to fly and pick fights with?
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>>170147384
Golem
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>>170145990
they're pretty ridiculus
>extractor is 250m
>9-10 days of training with maximum bonuses is 500k sp
>PLEX is 1b
they should be closer to 600m
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>>170148662

Wow so a whopping 0 isk profit from a month of training with an omega account. I can only imagine how flooded the market would be
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>>170148762
most people are making close to or over 100m profit per injector
it's better than PI
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>>170148832

Its more like 75 and PI doesn't require 5.5m minimum SP. You'd be better off training them to afk rat than injectors if it dropped by much
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>get a 131m killmail
>appears on my board
>doesn't add to my isk destroyed
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>k-space cucks getting upset over sub- 1 bil scraps
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What'a good ratting ship right now?
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>tfw 98.6% KD ratio
>tfw 99.4% Isk Eff
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>>170149662
Gila, VNI
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>isk destroyed
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Do Armageddon navy issues exist in game?
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>>170149818
no
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Just got perma ban for rmt, bye Eve ty for the $$$

Also ded game
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Has maqiri killed himself yet?
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has cookie killed himself yet?
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>>170152672
Nah just checking in on the all-out losers still playing this game
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have fun raiding in wow with your straya neckbeard guild
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>when you keep getting daily cucked by fozzie instead of getting a job.
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>>170153065
Are you stalking me cunt cause I only resubbed to wow like two days ago.
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>>170153065
But join my guild called lakeshire cartel on frostmourne gonna be Seick cunts plan on doing an av premade at least once a week
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>xe actually plays wow
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>>170147384
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>stabber
>fight
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>>170153945
At least I don't try and pass off excell as a game enjoy calculating your jump fatigue lmao
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>my babbys first mmo is superior to eve becuz I don't have to think
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Why is eve the most toxic player base in the world? They make 4chan look like a hippie drum circle
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>any year
>giving blizzard money
if you wanted to waste it you could have just set it on fire
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>>170155248
t. lost a venture in hisec
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>>170155248
>toxic
did you get bullied by someone who played the game more?
HTFU or GTFO
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>>170155150
>orbit 2500
>lock broadcast
>hit f1
>don't have to think

Wow is allgood g, can just log in and hit queue and there's instant fun while in Eve you Gota roam for 5 hours to die to a gate camp that had eyes on you 5 jumps out. You should learn that if you unsub or walk away from the monitor video game achievements mean nothing and maintaining a steady job is 10x more important. But what's the point in trying to reason with autists on 4chan who never stopping being 13
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>>170155295
>>170155343
Read articles when they started f2p, all reviewers agreed that game was shit. I've never played it, but it looks interesting.
I won't waste time if I'm flying in space sewage.
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>being this mad at video games
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>maintaining a steady job
Jokes on you, I get autism bux :^)
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>170155555
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>reviewers
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The autism in this thread has told me everything I need to know about the game
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>>170155562
>>170155555
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>>170156114
k, back to your shit general
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oneiros
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sviplel
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Devoting your life to bumping a dead thread of a dead game for a small chance of a recruit
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>someone's being a huge retard
>check their corp
>oruze
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>>170155504
>Read articles when they started f2p, all reviewers agreed that game was shit.
Sauce?
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>having dog on auto update
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>Black Ops are just battleships with t2 paint
>No sign of the jump drive, advanced sensors or whatever fancy tech are required to strap a jump drive on a subcapital
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>>170159802
What?
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>m-muh blops!
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Daily reminder that the moros is worse than the nag in every way
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hourly reminder that the moros has higher sensor strength than tha nag
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minutely reminder the moros is inferior to the nag in every way
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except sensor strength and lock range
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>>170160832
that doesn't matter because you're immune to jams and sensor damps in siege.
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right but it's not worse in every way
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>>170160908
every palpable way

less DPS due to lack of selectable damage
way worse cap due to less capacitor recharge rate, guns using fuck tons of cap, and everything
less range, fall off and optimal.

The moros is a piece of shit
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what if the target is out of your lock range though
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>>170161089
You were never gonna hit it anyway since even the long range guns can't reach your lock range
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yes they can
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>>170161089
You dropped way too fucking far away for your dinky guns to even reach it.
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>>170161089
Why would you drop THAT far away?

116km on a nag vs 131km on a moros? Just refit a sebo you dumb fuck not like it matters anyway
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>oh god why are things warping in or jumping in after I've jumped in this is madness what do I do
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would a rail moros do a better job? I can pick your nags from a safe distance, plus TD them with my bonus mids.
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>plus TD them with my bonus mids

capital pvp doesn't have any ewar, ccp made all capitals immune or effectively immune because ewar is too complicated for cap shitters
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>>170161648
Dreads aren't immune, TP's still jump your signature

>>170161492
your FC is retarded for not getting you good tackle and accurate drops on field
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>>170161581
No, a rail moros is shit, only does like 7700 dps, the tracking is REALLY really bad and capitals can speed tank it like a Poco speed tanks Pheonix torpedos

IF you want a long range weapon system the revelation is better because tracking and the pheonix with cruise missiles is way better because it does selectable damage and you get really good application
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>>170161648
TD's still work on dreads, they have some resistance under siege
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>>170161648
Still, TDing a nag would be like cancelling a gyro because of its dependency on falloff, what is the resistance like, 70%? a Curses TD would work like an unbonused one on a sieged cap.
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FUCK CCP FUCKING CUNTS
WHY WONT THEY FIX THIS FUCKING SHIT
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>>170163029
Fix the existence of skill training?
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>>170163029
Change the passage of time?
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>>170163029
I don't think CCP can fix your autism desu shm
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>>170163029
what am I looking at?
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>>170163029
Are you stuck in a time loop?
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>no local
>no asset safety
>no unlimited sites to farm
>pay rent to meme alliance or get evicted
Why do people live there? Isn't it better to be a renter in the drone regions? At least the Russians defend their renters.
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project asperger more like
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>>170166454
>pay rent to meme alliance or get evicted
false except in meme c6 space
>no local
good
>no unlimited sites to farm
there are unlimited sites
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>Have Ship
>Like Ship
>Want to Fly Ship
>Can't find any particular activity said Ship would be useful for

Every ship in the game.
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Is navy slicer a good ship?
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>>170168497
Yes.
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haha let's rig defficiency aren't I funny and shit:DDD
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>>170169315
what?
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>>170169315
>>>/ss13general/
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>roaming around lowsec
>see an orthrus
>turn 360 degrees and warp away
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The orthrus can't push f1 if you disable its hand.
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>minmatar militia able to sit outside the amarr and farm anyone who undocks in imperial navy

Huh. Really made me think.
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>Give new guy some advice
>He doesn't thank me

Very rood.
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>>170174297

Any advice for me? :)
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>>170174297
>Pretend to be new player
>Post bait post asking for advice
>Don't say thanks to the guy who gave me advice
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>Remember to tip your FC!
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>>170175813
why the fuck would you tip them?
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>>170149393
takes a while
>>
>go exploring in a T1 Imicus with cloak since new omegafag
>have fun scanning sites and getting that sweet, sweet loot
>find a wormhole
>use tripwire, eventually leads to nullsex
>explore with help of evedotlan, systems are mainly empty at the time
>make around 150m loot in an hour thanks to faggot beginner's luck

>eventually jump into fleet
>instalocking cancer (3SB svipuls) primary and kill me
>put all relic lootz into cargo container, loot fairy fucks them over
>guys look at poorfag fit
>gave me advice, told me I was at the wrong place, wrong time (they were coincidentally looking for another enemy fleet)
>even comped my losses with an extra 50m "for the lols"
>told me to keep playing

holy fuck
also, HIC + instalocking svipul gatecamps are fucking cancer
fuck the warp disruption field generator
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>>170178861
>also, HIC + instalocking svipul gatecamps are fucking cancer
so just burn back to the gate
make sure you have nanos, you should be able to burn off the gate and cloak before they get a good look at your direction
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>>170176771

Its been 12+ hours now. The kill is there but there's no stat change
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>tfw you joined BRAVE
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>>170179263
You don't even need nano's you can do it just on the inertia you gain from the MWD
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>>170175813
What kind of shit corp makes you tip your FC?
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>>170182864
Pandemic Horde
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>>170184626

What are you smoking?
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>>170095247
>tfw the glory days of EOG are ded
>1 post per hour
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>EOG
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hey eog

let's make an /a/ corp
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>>170187229
Stunt already runs anime masters

anime masters eve
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>anime masters
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>>170187421
Messed up the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSKvAXU4FU
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>>170159802
widow has spinny radar thing
the plain old scorp has that also, though

I fully support extra widgets on ships that show it's different than t1
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>>170187604
gross
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>>170187229
Okay, make it then.
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>>170187604
Weebs should be killed
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>Lachesis
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>>170167164
forgot the part where you had to skill for 2 months for said ship.
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>>170167164
>>170192969
>his corp doesn't run regular fly what you want fleets

Lmao jokes on you for playing with elite peeveepee autists
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>Rook
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I want to make people shit their pants when they see me.
What do I fly?
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nestor
>>
>"you should follow the corp skillplan anon and get into our doctrines asap"

DROPPED
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>>170194774
Sabre
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>>170195215
>join a corp with doctrines
>deny flying their doctrines
you are the little bitch in this scenario anon, don't waste peoples times if you don't like how they operate
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>FC starts speaking some eastern european language in the middle of giving orders
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>we see from your api that you aren't training target painting v, care to explain?
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>>170195350

I love flying tackle and have good skills for ewar too, both of which are welcome in practically every fleet. I'm not bringing along drakes, I just don't want someone else to dictate how and what I play. I do solo things and not just FOTM blobs.
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>>170195680
so just say you are a tackle pilot
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>>170195731

I did before they said that
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>>170193303
my corp doesn't but I roll with a group of people that regularly does blops which is great.
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>blops
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>BLOPS
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>>170197135

Is that supposed to be impressive?
>>
>if I pretend every kill I participate in is a real kill my stats look good
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>>170197559
Not for a 10 year vet but for someone that has started last year I'm happy with it.

>>170197718
As a hunter I give myself full credit for most of those
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Anyone else kill/loss stats not updating on zkillboard? Been hours now
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>I run incursions
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>waste your youth camping Rancer
>killboardfags don't bother to import old killmails when the formal changes
>snuggly on Zkill
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>Rancer

better snuggly than a faggot
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>>170199716
>be shit
>feel bad when it's obvious that you're shit
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Hey guise, FAX machines in wormholes are invulnerable.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/60565210/

Oh, wait.
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>>170202257
No one said that.
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>>170202378
I've seen all kinds of stupid people throwing arguments around.
>>
>mfw oruze can't do anything alone
>>
Do Goons have some corp that's as easy to join as BRAVE or Horde? ASCEE wants applications.
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>>170202561
Thought karmafleet but idk for sure.
>>
why does a badger look like it has space for like a thousand people in it
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>>170202779
it blew my mind when i found out that there are badgers in real life too
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>>170202452
You should stop listening to stupid people, it won't do you any good.
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>he isn't able to fill an application
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>I'm not in oruze
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>paying tax and earning strat paps isn't enough, you also need to write a novel
>>
>10 lines
>novel
>mfw american education
>>
>Tell us in no less that 30 words why you would make the perfect candidate for us!
>>
>denied
>reason: 28 words
>>
ASCEE has accepted complete fucking retards. Good job not being able to do what a complete fucking retard could.
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>>170204535
Just write "I'm not a fucking retard." That's what I did.
>>
>ASCEE
>>
>have the cold iron SKIN for Confessor
>don't even use it

Fuck I'm an idiot
>>
>Confessor
>>
>>170208298

Its one of my favourite ships, but after flying around a bit I think the default looks nicer
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>>170209297
you need to swap skins to confuse enemy intel

amarr t1/t3 unskinned is high tier though
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>>170209407

Maybe they can't see me if I use it?
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>dynamic camera
Good goy, use all the features(TM)
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>>170209735
I never even noticed what this thing was meant to do. I never understood what this change was achieving.
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>>170210004
Make your camera change fov like a retard and being useless for general flying unless you are le twitch whore shill.
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>>170209735

May as well for a screenshot
>>
oneiros
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>>170207576
Give it to me.
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>Ratting in a bomber
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>newbie ask for ship pve advice.
>try to get him to fly amarr or caldari instead of gallente.
>end up recommending gallente anyway.
>>
>paying for ammo
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>>170209735
I like the effect for when you change ships/dock
in every other situation it's annoying though
>undock
>camera zooms way the fuck out for no reason
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You don't have to buy ammo if you fly shuttles
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>>170218767
upvoted and retweeted
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>>170215962
Why would you try to give bad advice?
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>>170219515
amarr caldari is fine for pve what are you babbling about
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>>170218767
>>
>stream
>>
>A whole 240 DPS
Sick, bro.
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>>170221242
>being retarded
>>
>being so poor that ammo cost is a problem
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>>170221242
>muh paper
>muh slow boats
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>>170220324
Depends on space t bh
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>>170207576
>want star captain skin
>don't have 700m
>>
>inject skill
>doesn't show up in character sheet
what the fuck
>>
>>170224784
Do you have the prereqs for it? I think the skill list defaults to the "have prereqs for" filter.
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>>170224784
>inject skill

You're giving yourself extra skill points, you aren't giving yourself the actual skills. You have to inject the skillbooks first, then apply the skill points.
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>>170224906
>>170224931
it's hard to tell, but if you inject the skillbook the name text switches from a dark grey color to white
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I can't leave my corp and they won't kick me out after I asked nicely. So I'm going to brew up an AWOX. Wrap your dicks gentlemen.

>inb4 click on your character name/click on corp tab then "Quit Corporation" then "Confirm Quit Corporation"
It's bugged to where I can't leave. We have until my ticket gets resolved to do this
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>>170225665
have fun explaining it to your next corp
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Why is the eve university application process so fucking slow?
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>>170227450
don't join them
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>>170227450
>Fill out a questionaire

>wait for a few days to get a mail inviting you to sit in a queue

>wait for a week in queue while sitting at your computer to get invited to interview

How is this corp recommended for noobs? What are they supposed to do, hang out by themselves mining for weeks until they are given a chance to possibly join?
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>>170227450
No idea, but I gave up after a week of sitting there pointlessly. Complete wate of time.
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>>170226860
Easy. I sent a mail to the CEO
>can't leave because of bug
>I have asked multiple times to get kicked
>not enjoying corp
>requests ignored
>threaten betrayal if he doesn't comply
The next corp will have a full API showing the contents of my demand. Do you even space lawyer?
>>
>hehe it was a bug I had to awox my corpmates, so when can I join?
>>
Would you guys say that a place like TESTs Brand Newbies, or BRAVE would be a good initial corp for someone completely new to the game?
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>>170229932
Horde
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>>170229932
karmafleet
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>>170224784

That happened to me once before. I relogged, searched for it and everything but it didn't show up. II got a second one and it finally changed from inject to add to queue.
>>
What's a good corp for someone who just wants to do whatever they want?
>>
>>170230768
Join All-Out
>>
>>170230768

Horde
>>
>>170230768
karmafleet
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>>170230768
Definitely horde
>>
>>170231086
(Real question) What's in it for horde? Wouldn't I just be a leech on the alliance?
>>
What's a good corp if I want to deliver stealth bomb payloads all day, every day?
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>>170231208
Horde is a newbie corp directly under pandemic legion. Pandemic legion uses them as a meat shield in fleets, so they are useful despite being being new to the game and not being able to fly much.
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>>170231208
Leeches are welcome in horde

Even legit spies are welcome
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>>170224931
>>170225269
Fuck, I misread "inject skill" as "skill injector."
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>>170231242

Wingspan if you want to "deliver" your autistic mails
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>>170230768
ASCEE
>>
My current alliance is about to get absorbed into a group of neets. I just want to do whatever I feel like. These guys are already telling us that enyone that is killed by an NPC or code will get booted. Fuck this.
>>
>out mining with my venture in lowsec
>npc mining op in the belt
>don't notice other player until he targets me
>we both know we can't do anything serious to each other with ventures
>continue mining
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>>170231923

Just leave then
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>>170232286

Where in lowsec? I'd like to join
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>>170232416
taisy
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>>170232301
I'm planning on it, but I have a couple IRL friends in corp. I'll see if I can get them to come with me.
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>>170232459

I can't actually play right now but if you want to share your name in game I can come protect you. Its a win win with you being bait and me getting fights
>>
>Want to get in a Guardian
>amaar cruiser V 33 days

How is this acceptable?
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>>170232910
Just buy skill injectors, anon. :^D
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>what are injectors
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>>170232731
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>>170232910
You cant get it to V as an alpha anyway so it doesn't matter for you
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>>170233017

Yeah I'm gonna cross half the fucking game for a venture kill
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>>170231828
There are 4 corps with "wingspan". Which one is it?
>>
>tfw not possible to be a smuggler and bring illegal stuff to hs and run from concord
>>
>>170233315

Don't join a bunch of spergs. Any major alliance will have stealth bomber fleets and you can always hop into a bombers bar one too
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>>170233525
Am I missing something about stealth bomber pilots or am I over-romanticizing?
>>
>>170233662

Not stealth bomber pilots, just particular corps. Its fine though, you can always leave if you don't like what you get into
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>>170232910
Because your not good enough to fly it yet. 33 days of flying t1 logo will be good practice.
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>>170231923
What you want to do is feed to rats?
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*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAP* suction!
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>>170095247
>Amarr
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>>170236168
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>>170236046
I want freedom. Freedom to rat if I want to. Freedom to pvp when and where I want. To chew on rocks if I so choose. I'll fleet up if I'm asked and I feel like it. Taxes not a worry. I just want to enjoy any part of a great game that I want, when I want.
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>>170236280
maybe u shouldnt be a shitter then my man

ps game is not great
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>>170236280
faggot
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>>170233525
>bombers bar
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>>170231242
the only good one died 2 years ago and all the ones currently alive are objectively bad

dont believe anyone who says otherwise
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>>170236280
To get good rats or rocks you need to take them so you need to join alliance fleets. If that's your attitude you should join renters.
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>>170236680
shared on r/oruze :)
>>
mfw 50 days to train into a confessor

F U C K
U
C
K
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>>170236737
>you need to take them so you need to join alliance fleets.
Not true. You can join a renter corp.
>>
>literally paying to rat
>>
>>170239062
Who's prices is that?
>>
>confessors
>>
>>170239220

Are lovely
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>>170239132
>pay for good space that you don't need to defend yourself
>rent is easily paid by autists running 5 carriers at a time
>>
>>170239062

Why the fuck would you pay to rat? I can't even think of a bigger waste of one's life to not only sink the hours into this game of mindless grinding, but to add more to pay to do the grinding.
>>
>>170239329
Or you can just join a normal null alliance.
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>>170239421
some people don't want to do that
>>
>>170239448
I'm sorry you are retarded
>>
>>170239505
>join null alliance
>10% corp tax
>tax pays for alliance fees, SRP, etc

>join renter alliance
>10% corp tax
>tax pays for rent and industry
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>>170239594
Have fun sucking russian dick.
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>>170239421
>join a normal null alliance.
I don't want mandatory fleets, strat paps and other shit. I just want to rat.
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>>170239745
>boo hoo my safe space :(
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>>170239801
>I can't conceive of people playing the game differently
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>>170240021
enjoy being a lesser human being whose only purpose is to buy more purples for russian supers. Literally hisec venture miners are above you
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>>170241142
>everyone HAS to play the game my way or they're all subhumans
>everyone HAS to be in blue blob sov alliances
>everyone HAS to do sov fleets all the time
>>
Are T1 BS shit, pirate broken or a bit of both? How do we make ships more evenly desirable rather than Cruisers + Machs online?
>>
>>170242294
>armageddon is decent
>apocalypse is decent, but is gimped by lasers
>abaddon is decent but is gimped by lasers

>scorpion is a nice hull but is completely useless compared to falcons
>raven is a decent stepping stone to a tengu
>rokh is outclassed at sniping by naga

>dominix is outclassed by vni/ishtar
>megathron is just shit
>hyperion is practically never used

>typhoon and tempest are decent all rounders
>maelstrom is outclassed by tornado as a sniper
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>raven is a decent stepping stone to a tengu
>hyperion is practically never used
>maelstrom is outclassed by tornado as a sniper
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>>170242641
Your retarded if you think mael/rokh are compared to tier3bc, bs can trade bc can only third party.

Mael is the best t1 bs because the alpha, rokh is better if you have a full fleet as you have enough alpha and more rof.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMi0LpAbfI&feature=youtu.be
Goons everyone......
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>>170242641
congratulations, you win the dumbest post award
>>
>testfags yet again so desperate for attention that they have to shill outside of reddit
>>
>finally got to corp ratting system
>too afraid to rat
this was a good weekend.
>>
T1 Battleships see little use in the current meta because T3Cs are OP, and Pirate battleships are stronger than T1 and are too cheap after the increase to escalation rates.

T3Cs are getting rebalanced soon(ish), hopefully without fucking over WH space. Nerf escalation rates as well and T1 battleships will see more use. Possibly give them a quick balance pass to improve some of the worst ones and that'll sort it.
>>
>muh t3
>>
t3 frigates when.
>>
The next T3 should be a capital for wormholes.
Give it a siege that holds the hole open, make the mod acronym g.a.p.e
>>
>>170244906
Seriously tho...t3 frigates, special feature: several t3 frigates can transform into one ultra-giga-nigga-frigate, like with maximum limit of 20 frigates and every single one of them retains it's control - so you can only move somewhere if everyone agrees to do so (or terrify enemy by uncontrollably spinning around and firing lasers everywhere)
>>
What if...ccp adds another pve oriented ship like maradeurs (at least i think it was supposed to be pve oriented ship?) or just rebalances maradeurs?
>>
>if everyone agrees to do so
>>
>>170245439
This is retarded

I want to see it
>>
why are capital remote repair certificates required for mastery on carriers? they don't have any bonuses to remote repair anymore
>>
>certificate
>mastery
>>
>gallente
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/gallente-human-rights-activists-slam-chief-executive-panel-and-senate-after-oijanen-footage-shows-mass-protest/
>>
>Application Status: Unprocessed
>Your Position in the application queue: 34
>>
>>170247438
>euni

Lol'd
>>
>>170247936
It's BRAVE, they've processed one app yesterday apparently
>>
>>170248080
Even funnier. Enjoy being a pet no matter where you go
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>try out exploration
>keep forgetting to bookmark the wormhole I came through
I'm gonna get killed
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>>170248541
I once managed to get out of that situation by sheer luck. The wormhole was populated and I was actively pursued by the people in it, but I managed to scan down the wormhole I came through on my first try.
>>
>>170248794
I'm just trying to get to some ass end of nullsec
it's annoying to scan down the hole you came through
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>>170245425

Holy fuck, this.
>>
Tech 3
Tactical
Espionage
Shuttles.
>>
Actually come to think of it, t2 shuttles with ability: in high-sec space autopilot waprs to 0 isntead of 13km.
>>
>travelling through null
>system with no stations/structures
>5 people in it
>haven't left in 10 minutes
>>
they must be cloaked at some nearby planet doing PI
>>
>>170159802
>rattlesnake, a ship that turns ogres into hecates, has no visual difference from the scorpion, a fucking ecm boat
>>
https://zkillboard.com/character/3019581/
this motherfucker is unstoppable
>>
>>170252742
Who are those anyways? Those are just NPC drifters with names and ability to kill pods?
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>>170253117
The ones with the doomsdays
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>>170253145
What?
>>
>>170253179
If you shoot them enough to get through their shields they doomsday you.
>>
>>170253415
>fun and engaging pve
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>no absolute potato mode where the client only renders icons and caps
I WANT MY 20% TIDI NULLBBLOB CANCER WITHOUT CLIENTSIDE LAG TOO PLEASE THANK YOU CCP
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>muh caps

kys
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>>170253415
has anyone tried tackling them with capital fleets or does that not work?
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>kys

kys
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>in pandemic horde
>corp has been mean for awhile
>make alt account and train up enough for a interceptor
>strap a cloak on it
>go sit in our main system
>nothing gets done
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>>170254887
you can kill them with pos bubbles and guns I think
except their killboards don't show them losing their ships
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>>170254975
>with pos bubbles and guns I think
how would you get them onto a pos?
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>>170254969
what did he mean by this?
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>>170254969
>strap a cloak on it
Why would a nigger cloak a ceptor?
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>>170254969
we must be in completely different corps because where I live people keep ratting even when there's a neut fleet in system
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>>170255284
>easiest ship to fly with bubble invuln
>cloak is only useful for cloaky camping
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=512146
>it's a "forum babbies complain about ccp not even playing their own game" episode
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>>170255793
>forum babbies complain about ccp not being retarded ratters
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>>170255861
>forget to tell fighters to orbit something
>get shot at by rats because they just sit there
>300m gone in seconds
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>>170255957
you shouldn't even be able to rat in a capital ship, and you're complaining that it's not as convenient as you'd like to be able to melt rats at 5x normal speed
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>>170256035
>you shouldn't even be able to rat in a capital ship
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>>170256105
you were just having a big whine about muh fighter sig or whatever
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>Lore-wise the Caldari survived the Caldari-Gallente war thanks to their single pilot fighters and a hero carrier
>They have the worst carriers in the game
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>>170256190
my complaint is that their AI is worse than regular drones
they just sit there and get shot instead of returning and orbiting like every other drone in the game
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>>170255793
Won't the Fighter EHP implants kinda balance this out?
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>>170256369
your complaint is dumb. even if you use cheap shit fighters you're still doing retarded crazy damage
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>>170256852
>complains about fighter ai being retarded
>answers by complaining that caps do caps damage
You're a new sort of stupid aren't you anon
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>>170257031
you are

why should I be so concerned about how you're mildly inconvenienced when ratting in a carrier because you occasionally lose the expensive fighers you've chosen to use, when all capital pve is inherently broken and shouldn't really be going on anyway?
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>shouldn't really be going on anyway
Provide an argument to justify this.
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>>170258192
because it makes it all laughably easy and you basically don't even need modules fitted. it seems obvious to me that babby easy pve was not made to deal with bullshit like carriers
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So is your argument that people should not be allowed to use the most effective tool for a given purpose limited to ratting, or would you apply it to all of eve?
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Which /eog/ corp can I join? I just want to sit in pos/station and spin my shit and join pvp op when I feel like, no pve no pressure pls
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>>170248868
The wormhole entrance that you used will be marked down on the system map. If you forget to bookmark it, you can just put your probes in the smallest pinpoint formation over the marker, and scan it down in one cycle.
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How bad is it to kill some greens/blues before leaving a corp? :^)
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>>170259547
>He only shoots blues before he plans to leave!
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>>170095247
How can i become an space pirate? i mean, how the game allows me to do so? i can gank people? and after a nice ganking day, where i should set my base?
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>>170260475
and by ganking i don't mean actually destroying, can i just go and root him and say "give me all your money or you are dead"
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>>170260667
The only people with the ability to do this are the ones high up the food chain.

You want to ransom people? Join a good corp and learn how to fight.
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>>170257165
How is carrier ratting broken? It's like 130-200 mil Isk/hour. LVL5s make more but lowsec needs income too and they're an Isk sink because of LP conversion.

It's incursions that pay out too much Isk, capital PVE is fine.
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Dumb question


Let's say i'm living in a WH Space and there is this Cosmic sign (Wormhole) named VNI

will it be called VNI until it colapses and the WH vanishes?
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>>170261695
Yes. You can note sigs down after scanning or use 3rd party tools to do that.
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>>170260667
You can always try to ransom someone but it's unlikely that you'll get any money out of them because most people expect that you'll blow them up even after paying a ransom.

Probably the only group that I can remember that honours ransoms and has it written into the rules of their corp is the Tuskers. They're more interested in getting great fights than extorting money from people however, and have strict requirements to join.

If you just want to blow people up to get their stuff, and ransom them if they'll give you isk, then you'd most likely want to get involved with groups that suicide gank or station camp in highsec, or that camp gates in lowsec or null. It probably won't gain you much respect, but it could make some isk and piss people off it that's what you're after.
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>>170261278
>LVL5s make more

guess what ship is involved in this

>incursions

it's possible for multiple things to need fixing
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>>170260667
You can even ransom an entire corp using empty threats and alts to pretend you represent a large group.
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>>170261962
>Probably the only group that I can remember that honours ransoms and has it written into the rules of their corp is the Tuskers

I imagine with a lot of fighty elite pvp groups even if it's not in the rules, you will get kicked for generally being a lying faggot whether it's ransoms or 1v1s or whatever

if the corp is based in sov null or highsec I'd expect them to all basically be liars
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>>170262074
If CCP gets rid of high Isk/h PVE they're only hurting players that still need to grind for their Isk. There is nothing wrong with making a couple hundred million per hour in null or lowsec.
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>Ferox sells for 45mill
What the fuck happened? I remember them being 20mill.
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guys how easy is to keep playing this shit without paying? Im a poorfag who can invest 25-30 hours a week
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>>170262869
Shit, when I played last, a Plex cost 350m. Inflation bruh.
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Karmafleet or Horde?
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>>170262607
I think if you want capitals in pve, the pve needs to be designed with that in mind, because capitals are so retarded that they just rek everything in seconds and have insane tank without even trying, it makes the whole thing retarded
or maybe it's just a bit telling about the state of carriers that they're effective in pve. having 'anti everything' or 'anti subcap' weapons is fucking stupid in pvp, removing all the nuance and making every ship just a bundle of ehp. if you at least had to use different types of fighters for different targets or something maybe things would be less crazy

agents need some kind of scarcity, maybe only if outside of highsec. a single level 5 mission agent can provide income for potentially infinite people, it's real bad
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>>170263086
neither
Join TEST
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>>170263072

I do one 30-ish minute ratting site a day and it gives me enough in bounties to pay my subscription (1.1b ish) in a ship that costs 0.1b
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>>170263086
Each does both, but I'd recommend Horde if your priority is pvp, and Karmafleet if your priority is pve
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>>170263247
Gila ratting in null/wh?
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>>170263358

I'm pretty new so likely nothing im doing is optimal but I do serpentis sanctums in null with a Vexor Navy Issue and one site a day gives me about 900m in bounties and loot per month for almost no effort.
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>>170263072
With recent changes, you can keep playing the game indefinitely without paying, but you will be stuck with a restricted set of ships and skills. This should be sufficient to get involved in almost any area of the sandbox that you want, but obviously has its disadvantages.

With the amount of time you sound willing to put into the game you should easily be able to farm enough isk for an upgraded account by buying PLEX ingame after earning it whilst playing for free. I'd probably still recommend starting an account using someone's referral link, subscribing for 1-2 months, and getting the ISK from the PLEX they'll get from selling their referral bonus (you made this deal with someone reliable, right?). The extra training speed, access to skills, and isk should let you reach a point where you can sustain your account with less effort more quickly, assuming you do your research.
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>>170263931
thanks m8 Ill give it some thought and probably will start this or next week
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Is there any big blob stuff going on in eve right now?

When I last subbed a few months ago there was a big war going on against CO2 and I had great fun in it but now I can't seem to find anything like it.
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>>170264346
PL/NC vs TEST/Co2/BRAVE vs Goons vs rest of the south is coming
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I have my account tied to my steam (because monthly sub is cheaper there in my country)

my account will auto renew itself on the next 11th

but i want to change my plan to be 3 months instead of 1

if i change my sub plan now, it will charge my credit card now or in the 11th?
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>>170264591
Does this look like a Steam support thread?
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>>170264715

s-sorry
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>>170264346
Machariels are replacing t3c as the go to cruiser for high tank high damage fleets

Fleets are starting to fit them so well you can get like 550k ehp after links and slaves
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>>170265371
>go to cruiser
The go to subcap
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>>170264346
there's always something, regardless of whether reddit is shitting the bed about it
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>>170264346

There's no conflicts going on that reach the scale of Panfam / NC kicking CO2 out of Tribute, TEST / CO2 kicking Stainwagon out of the south, or World War Bee before either.

In terms of null sec content that's easy to be part of, Horde has been getting some great fights against The Culture and The Initiative in cloud ring, which are likely to continue.

There have also been huge fights with PL attacking Brave in Catch and the rest of the nearby powers getting stuck in. Again, the fights there are likely to continue for a bit.
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>>170248080
>wait for lengthy application
>move your shit to new home
>get gangbanged by regional alliances
>get home destroyed and lose everything

Have fun :^)
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>>170267325
more like lose 10% of your assets isk value and getting it teleported to lowsec
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>>170182864
incursion fleets
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>>170257165
I'm "only" getting 2000 dps with t2 fighters, 4 fighter support units, and 4 faction DDA's
rockets don't count since I have to spend over a minute refueling so I only use them sparingly

if you want to talk about overkill supers get 5-6000 easy
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>>170268230
>2000 dps

that's a shitload, especially since the ship itself has zero range constraints, you can be 100km away aligned to a pos or whatever, and it applies to everything enough that shit just explodes
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>tfw /eog/ is full of nullplebs
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>>170268396
I'm glad I can carrier rat like everybody else does in nullsec and it makes you buttfrustrated
what would you even change to make them less viable at pve and not suck at everything generally?
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>>170268710
I'd vastly reduce their damage application so they actually have a sensibly defined role rather than "anti subcap", and probably either make it so they can't fight while ready to warp out, or make fighters more valuable and less recoverable

and you guys are getting buttflustered about increased rat aggro and sig radius by the way
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>>170268912
>vastly reduce their damage application
so basically make carriers useless?
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>>170268912
>make carriers even more useless now that triage is a completely separate ship
they don't have very good local tanks and require lots of active modules to be effective
fighters are really squishy and you can snipe them easily
they're easy to kill if you have a brain

>and you guys are getting buttflustered about increased rat aggro and sig radius by the way
I don't even care about that
I want my fighters to actually have a brain and avoid being shot (default return&orbit) like they used to and like every other drone in the game
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>>170269242
in the hands of retarded pilots, yes. that's how things should be

>>170269260
>if you have a brain

you mean a gang
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>>170269349
>he actually wants to solo a carrier
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>>170269560
I don't expect to be able to break capital meme tanks or get through their trillion hp, but that doesn't mean they should be able to just instantly frag any ship in the game. at least with dreadnoughts before they had meme guns they sort of had tracking constraints
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>>170269662
>that doesn't mean they should be able to just instantly frag any ship in the game
t. wcs fitted FW player
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>>170269662
I think you're forgetting that it's a CAPITAL ship
which means:
>significant investment of ISK and SP
>requires another character or alliance infrastructure to be mobile
>it's easily overwhemled by subcapitals
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>>170269786
t. "tracking is hard what is a webifier I don't understand"
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>>170270006
good point anon let's just throw all the game mechanics out the window

>easily overwhelmed by subcapitals

you're thinking of dreads, not carriers
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>>170270157
I think you never fought carriers in gilas.
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i've barely played this game, and i have no fucking idea what you people are talking about here, but shit if it's not interesting

how do you scale the mountain of a learning curve for all this shit
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>>170270157
it applies to all capitals

listen kid if ur too dumb in the fields of killing crapitals maybe you should SHUT the fuck up and get good
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>>170270157
a 5-10 man blops gang or any kitchen sink fleet with combined dps of over a few thousand can easily kill a carrier, especially when there's no allies to help them
they don't even get triage modules anymore, making them even more vulnerable
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>>170270157
A couple of griffins can shutdown a carrier.
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>>170270157
Ascee would like to have a word with you.
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>>170270256
yes we all know, if you have enough logi that you can tank the carrier, you can tank the carrier. it's not relevant and you aren't good

>>170270335
except the ones I mentioned, dreads, where they can't just f1 kill everything

>>170270449
you are adding nothing to the conversation

I'm not talking about how to set up a kill on a carrier, I'm talking about how a carrier as a response to a ship in its space, can kill literally anything
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>>170270257
it's like 4chan
lurk more and you learn more
unlike 4chan if you ask people ingame about things, generally they'll be more than happy to help you out if you're new
>>170270494
I've never really had a handle on ECM, do you have to completely overwhelm the sensor strength of the ship for effective jamming or does it not really matter?
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>>170270617
not a single capital can f1 easy kill from noob something unless that person is dumb, including the carrier

just lmao dude why dont u just quit
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>>170270617
>I'm not talking about how to set up a kill on a carrier, I'm talking about how a carrier as a response to a ship in its space, can kill literally anything
the response to a carrier is to bring more ships
CAPITAL SHIPS require more manpower because they're just so big
whining about carriers being able to kill subcaps easily is like whining about frigates being able to run away easily
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>>170270617
>tank the carrier
Yeah, because there is a lot to tank. Webs are instakillers for fighters.
Just fly something bigger than shit-fitted t1 dessie and carrier wont instakill you
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>>170270764
what did he mean by this?

>>170270906
>the response to a carrier is to bring more ships

the whole issue here is that shitty pilots can do just fine in a carrier because it can apply damage to anything, so you don't need to think at all

>fighters engage
>press go fast button
>if it's a solo/small gang ship, wait 2 seconds and collect killmail
>if it's a huge buffer blob ship, wait 10 seconds and collect killmail
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I don't get all this ship types names

When you say a carrier, you mean a Titan? what about Capitals and Super Capitals?
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>>170272286
what he means is align out if u see fighters come for u bounce

and the latter response is 100% ok because it takes a lot more money and SP to fly that than a subcap.

retard btfo ago just delete ur account kid
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>>170272351
carrier is a specific ship, archon thanatos nidhoggur and chimera

titan is a specific ship, avatar erebus ragnarok and leviathan

supercapital means titan or supercarrier, supercarrier has 1 for each race just like the others

capital means any carrier or dread or force auxiliary or a rorqual, sometimes people will include supercaps in caps, since they play by the same rules but are just fatter and more overpowered
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>>170272286
>ignoring the fact fighters become clay pigeons when you web them, and to repair/launch more it requires taking them off the field for a minute
>ignoring the fact a squadron of fighters has a significant amount of DPS and removing just 1 squadron cripples the dps output of a carrier
>ignoring the fact that carriers don't have ewar resistances like supers do
ignoring the fact that carriers become completely useless when they can't lock anything
>ignoring the fact that you can lock a carrier down with a tackler frigate and completely shut it down with a falcon or two
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>>170272649
a battleship takes a lot more money and sp than a frigate to fly, it doesn't mean when a battleship lands on grid you need to instantly leave

>>170272735
yeah this ship applying 2000 dps to my cruiser, I'll just web its fighters and fuck them up, and maybe I'll target paint the carrier while I'm at it
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>>170272831
not an argument
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>>170272947
>ship costs some money, so it's ok if it makes all smaller ships totally pointless
>plus if they aren't tackled they can just warp off as soon as it's on d-scan

not good game design
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>>170268912
>and you guys are getting buttflustered about increased rat aggro and sig radius by the way
Should I still train for carriers if I want to make easy Isk with ratting?
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>>170273116
>be mad he can't kill expensive long to train into ship solo without upshipping, equal shipping or blobbing
>somehow this is wrong

nah u just bad and dont know shit mayt
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>>170273336
in the long term yes
be ready to spend over 2 billion to get one though
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>>170273395
>mfw blaster falcon
>mfw just jam all the fighters while doing sick void dps
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>>170273116
>I need easy kills or else it's bad game design
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>>170273671
>easy kills

precisely what I'm talking about with "anti everything" fighters
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>>170274265
maybe what you should looking for is "how not to be bad"
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>>170274265
what role do you even want carriers in as a capital?
>anti-structure is covered by dreads
>logistics is covered by FAX
>anti-capital is covered by supers
>anti-subcapital is covered by carriers
there's no other niche role they could fit into besides as anti-subcap
that's why they can only use light fighters
that's why they get the networked sensor array
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>>170274265
nah nerd u btfo
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>>170274363
yeah I would like it if carrier pilots had to have just a bit of skill

>>170274364
they could make the subcapital thing less retarded, so you commit to being against certain types of subcaps. having 1 weapon that just kills all subcaps is fucking stupid

and NSA is a huge fuckup I can't believe they haven't fixed it yet
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>>170274650
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>>170274650
>carriers don't need skill
if you act dumb in a carrier, you're guaranteed to loose it
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>>170274863
only because vast numbers of people want to kill caps
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>>170275013
lolwut
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>I'm eternally buttmad because I got solo'd by some retard in a carrier so now I want the ship to become completely useless at its designated role
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>>170275360
>I'll just post garbage responses over and over, if the guy explains why I'm wrong then he's mad lol
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>>170275420
You have yet to provide a single argument why should carriers be made useless.
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>>170275734
probably because I don't think they should be useless
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>>170272673

thanks anon
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>>170275839
>I want carriers to not be so good at killing subcaps
>I don't think they should be useless
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>>170104792
>hanger
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>>170276610
what's the problem?

there's a thing that is too good, right. I want to make it less good, and you're here telling me I want to make it useless
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>>170277154
what about buffing other things to make them more effective at killing carriers?
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>>170276885
what's the relevance of this?
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>>170277304
>paps
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>>170277326
And?
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>>170277254
some anti-capital weapons would be nice, but I think carriers are about appropriately durable for a capital ship

I think carriers kill stuff too well. making stuff that kills carriers better wouldn't solve the problem of carriers killing everything else too well
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>>170277390
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>unironically giving attention to boat
>>
>solution to carriers is be smart and bring the right fleet
>no I want to get carrier kills while unmoslested by fighters I could easily shoot down
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>STRATOP CTA CTA
>keep ratting
>sell maze in alliance chat
>anon, why aren't you on the stratop?
>tell them my caps are on standby
>mfw they're not even subbed
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>>170277976
>be smart and bring the right fleet

meanwhile as a carrier pilot, your ship is the solution to everything except caps, and you don't need to be smart
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>>170278072
my solution is to run away because I'm not risking my carrier against some 20 man gangrape fleet
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>>170278045
>which ships anon?
>its above your paygrade
>o-ok
mfw always works
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>What is this fleet about, FC?
>I can't tell you anon it's opsec

>mfw dropping fleet
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>>170270671
>do you have to completely overwhelm the sensor strength of the ship for effective jamming or does it not really matter?

Yes but it still doesn't matter, fighters have fuck all sensor strength so you just jam them instead.
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>>170280223
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>8k ehp
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>carrier switches to ecm fighters and jams your falcon

checkmate
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>>170282003
just neut it
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>implying there's better candidates
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>>170282486
You forgot Noobman
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>memeload

reddit pls
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>>170282668
>giving votes to PL
>>
wormhole people are all biased and retarded when it comes to wormhole space, do not vote for them
>>
Is there any way I can get a rundown on all the CSM candidates? I'm a newbro and all I have to work with is their self-written blurbs on CCPs site.
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>when you just whelped all 29 of your Ferox's to a Horde fleet
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>>170283661
Just vote suitonia and ignore the rest. They are mostly attention whores or various PL alts.
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>>170283925
>Just vote suitonia
But who is he and why should I vote for him.
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>>170284412
A person who knows how to solo pvp.
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>hey guys, come join this fleet. It's gonna be a whelp xD
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>>170285585
>Go on a whelp fleet
>Get a handout ship
>Insure
>Get whelped
>Profit
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>CCP unironically killing lowsec

RIP.
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>You never know the new mining platforms might be fun
>We will have to do rorq defence fleets
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>>170286717
nothing of value
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>>170256852
holy shit you're stupid
>waah why can't I use one of the most effective ways of getting isk
>people shouldn't be able to use carriers to get isk because it's good!
>>
give me a quick rundown on caldari ships
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>>170288246
Missiles, shield tank.
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>>170288246
ECM
>>
whats the name of the alpha incursion community?
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>>170288246

F1 pros
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>>170288246

Shield tank
Missiles and hybrid guns
Slowish
ECM reeee
All the frigates are good except the condor
The cormorant is good and the corax is garbage
All of the cruisers are good
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>>170288246
Most and best looking designed ships
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>>170288087
Its the only way of getting isk in lowsec. Even then the amount of set up required for it is enormous. comparatively, for the same cost and a lot less effort and alts you can get a super out in nullsec and make virtually the same money without having to put up with bullshit like the LP store
>>
>>170290905
sorry I replied wrong, I thought the discussion was about l5 missions
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Should I join them?
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>A fitted Mark V
>>
Suitonia, Noobman, Steve whatshisface who does fuzzwork and Xenuria are the patrician choices. Anything else and you're probably a nullbabby.
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>Not White 0rchid

No son, you are the nullbabby.
>>
>le xenuria im so ironic
>noobman a.k.a. PL
lol
>>
>>170292890
you better vote for white orchid
>>
>>170291887
What language puts a space before a question mark?
>>
>>170292890
Why are highshitters so bitter about people that leave the tutorial area?
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>>170293396
Because their autism doesnt let them join the null club.
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>travelling through dronelands
>it's this system
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>Valklear Glory
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>>170293469
I'm thinking of training it even though I have gal carrier 5 already.

Angel's carrier when
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>>170293728
>>
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>when 2 vagas jump right into you and your mates
>>
>HK is pl
>sniggwaffe isn't

Where do i have to go to catch this type of autism?
>>
>snigg
literally who
>>
>>170296538
sniggwaffe isn't PL
>>
>All of PanFam is PL
>>
>>170296659
waffles
>>
>>170296373
>confessor
>>
>>170296881
>implying it isn't true
>>
>>170293148
French.
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>I was gifted this character.
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>>170293708
nsi-mw? pwp?
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>>170297356
>nsi-mw? pwp?
>>
>syndicate 200mm steel plates
>>
Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher
>>
Federation Navy memes
>>
Capital Memetic Algorithm Bank II
>>
>scourge precision XL cruise missile
>>
>implying there is ANYTHING wrong with syndicate items
>>
What's the easiest way to make 100 million a day with 20 million SP?
>>
>>170302484

Depends what the SP is in genius
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>fighter support unit II
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>Get in a situation where I know I won't escape in my ship
>Overheat all my modules, even ones that don't matter
>They have to repair all my modules after they loot the field, wasting time and isk
It's the little things that give me pleasure
>>
>>170302484
flipping 1-2 contracts
>>
>>170302484
Spamming Jita local
>>
>>170303173
>open cargo
>select all
>jettison
>mfw I pop the can
>>
>>170302484
3 incursion sites will take like 40 minutes and get you about 95m before LP
>>
>tfw used to think turning prop mods on would help ships warp faster
>>
Is it worth my time to start a new character if I have no plans to multibox?
>>
>>170304517
Yes because you will be changing those plans.
>>
>>170304517
Yeah, You'll probably end up wanting another character at some point in time. Make sure you referral it to your main account.
>>
>>170305257
How do you reffer a character to its own account
>>
>>170305654
you don't, you can only refer new accounts

New accounts are more useful (and cheaper) than funding two characters on the same account

two accounts can be logged in at the same time and can interact with each other without any issue
>>
>>170306679
Characters on the same account are a lot more useful because they share omega status
>>
>>170307406

The two characters on the main account don't count. they are alts with only their PI skills and gal industrial IV, they aren't actually used.

you are better off using a 2nd account for literally every other activity, as you can have both characters playing at the same time.
>>
what's the spiciest meme ship right now?
>>
>>170307406
yea but you pay 5 dollars more per month to keep them both training and you can't log on both at the same time for things like lighting cynos and stuff
>>
>>170308202
Machariels, supers and fax machines
>>
>>170303173
>tether
>fixed
:^)
>>
oneiros
>>
Which corp can I join for immediate and non-stop FUN?

I haven't been active for 2 years but I have 3 characters ranging from 80-180m SP.

No /eog/ corp thanks.
>>
apocalypse
>>
>>170313179
Vendetta Mercenary Group
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>Vendetta Mercenary Group
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>lost another mtu
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>>170127916
Yes if your in CVA you can only shoot reds and some nuets if the kos checker says its OK.
>>
>>170316181

how? forgot it?
>>
>rats still don't shoot deployables
>>
>>170316513
CVA is amarr fw now. They shoot everything
>>
initiated compact warp scrambler
>>
Small Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu
>>
>>170321252
>>170321996

Dog
>>
If I'm using an oversized AB to speed tank, am I better off using the natural speed + reduced sig of defensive mode or pure speed of propulsion?
>>
>>170319706
There are plenty of nuets flying around Providence competing with me for relic sites and I can't blow them up.
>>
>>170324668
>when your alliance is not allowing you to shoot random people
Why would you even join them :|
>>
About to be interviewed by WiNGSPAN. Anything I should know about this corp? I hear they are spergs but never heard any reason why
>>
>>170324173
If it's a confessor then def. If it's a svip or jackdaw then I don't know. Agility might be a big factor also
>>
>>170325563
Because CVA larps as amar space. And it's really a small price to pay for secure space to travel through, good Intel channels and PvP gangs basically whenever I want to. Its honestly a good gig. I feel safer in Providence than in hisec.
>>
>>170327103
I generally feel safer in low sec than in high sec
>>
>>170327434
But do you get to make goons look like turbo shitters for losing 3 caracals and a flycatcher to a T1 frigate gang?
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>>170327846
>implying that's an achievemetn
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>>170328182
Go on post a video of your corp doing it. I'll wait.
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>>170327846
t1 frigate gangs are nice

>mfw crucifier
>mfw maulus
>>
>>170325760
What if it's a hecate?

Seriously I love this design so much what is the ship good for
>>
>mfw test is so desperate for attention that they
>-do an uninteresting video
>-blow it out of proportions
>-smear it all over reddit in a futile attempt of strategic upvoting
>-posting it here, revealing themselves like normalfag redditors
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>>170329424
>what is the ship good for
nothing
>>
>>170329424
>hecate
>afterburner

can't do it. and the ship has no fitting, you will never get oversized cancer on there, not that it would be useful at all

the correct way to fit a hecate is neutrons, mwd web scram cap booster, single rep (can be pimp if you want) dc eanm mfs

it's ok at killing a decent variety of badly piloted ships like dictors and t3ds. it is ultra bad at getting under the guns of larger ships, do not even try it

if you're flying it in lowsec just disregard everything I said and fit it with rails, mwd web web scram, and some kind of maxgank lows with dc and hull rigs
>>
>>170328920
>makig video of something that happens everyday in FW
jesus how bad can you be
>>
>>170325760

Its a confessor, thanks mate
>>
>shit looking ships are good
>good looking ships are shit
Fuck you, CCP.
>>
Is there a /comfy/ corp or chat channel to join if all i do is roam w-space in cloaky shit until I die and get podded back to Jita just to do it again?
>>
>>170330483

There are a fair few good Amarr ships anon
>>
>>170330483
>deimos and thorax exist
>>170330685
Bringing Solo Back i guess?
>>
What kind of profit do you guys usually see from 10/10s? Recently been doing them but I think i've been having a string of bad luck. No faction gear, just bullshit regular stuff.
>>
>>170330483
>shit looking ships are good
Svipul
>good looking ships are shit
Corax
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60597189/
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>170331564
>500MN Microwarpdrive II
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>>170331564
at least he had the mwd and defensive neuts
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60572558/
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r8 my votes lads
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>>170332916
>fags, PL, Pl alts, retards
>>
>>170332979
>literal retard running for CSM
>not on the list
It's fine. CSM doesn't do shit anyways.
>>
>>170333027
That's the joke. Why are you even voting
>>
>>170333057
>implying I'm him
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>believing in democracy
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>>170332916
wtf is this
>>
>caldari ships look okay xD
>>
>>170337029
At least they are not literal abominations like gallente...
>>
Too lazy to do a proper shitpost:

amarrdog.jpg
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Kys maq
>>
sick namedrop m9
>>
t. flores, the cuck
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>tfw comfy hauling 600mil of PI to Jita
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Watch your back oruse I'm fucking comming to destroy your corp, be careful about who you recruit mother fuckers.
>>
>full rack of bulkhead rigs and lows
>>
>tfw scan new holes down and realize its Hard Knocks next door
>quickly grab rolling BS before they notice
>almost fuck up and get stuck on the other side
>stop myself before i do and quickly finish rolling the hole
>pretend like nothing happened
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>geckos
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>>170340631
>when the person looting HQ incursions for Geckos has a higher isk/h than the incursion runners
>>
I am relatively new, and just got a Kronos, how badly did I fuck up?
>>
>>170345336
terribly
>>
>>170345336
Whoever gave you the idea to do this trolled you pretty hard.
>>
>>170345336
You'll lose it by tomorrow assuming undocked.
>>
>>170345615
>>170345723
>>170345732
Is it really that bad?
I saw Bastion module and thought it'd be the shit
>>
>>170345795
It's a module that pins you in place for something like half a minute.

You saying this implies one of two things:
1) you are using it in highsec which is bad because it's a gross misuse of a kronos
2) you are using it outside of highsec and will find yourself stuck in bastion as a tackle frigate warps its way over with a fleet behind it
>>
>>170345795
Marauders are already pretty useless outside of a few scenarios, and the Kronos is by far the worst one.
>>
>>170345940
I'd take a kronos over a golem or paladin when it comes to hole brawling, but this is correct for the most part.
>>
>>170345924
Null ratting. Makes it easy to AFK with local on whatever screen I am using
It is quiet where we are so it is relatively safe. I use Caracals for pvp
>>
>>170346041
Well ok, but don't be surprised when someone shows up in local and drops a cyno on you before bastion decycles.
>>
My corp's planning an eviction in a few weeks, this'll be my first. What should I expect other than structure bashing?
>>
>>170351129
let me guess, e-uni wormhole eviction campaign?
>>
>>170352637
I don't know all the details but no we aren't EVE-Uni and I didn't even know they had a wormhole presence so I doubt we'll be evicting them.
>>
If I want to get into industry, where should I start? How do I get blueprints without paying a dickload of isk?
>>
>>170356116
you pay a dickload of isk
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>>170356219
I was afraid you'd say that.
>>
>>170356116
Get EVE IPH and start building profitable stuff with cheap BPOs like rigs. Always check what researched BPOs go for before buying them from NPC.
>>
>Amarr
>>
Kronos
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>keep getting the urge to resub
Tell me it's not worth it boys
>>
>>170359818
it's not worth it
>>
>>170359818
It's not worth it
>>
>>170359818
IT'S FUCKING WORTH IT

CITADELS
CAPITALS IN LOW SEC
LINK NERFS
RESUB NOW
>>
>>170361173
capitals are a reason not to resub though
>>
>>170361237
t. subcapital poorfag shitter
>>
>capital pilot calls someone a shitter
>>
>>170361173
I have a feeling my resub would go something like this
>join up with my bros I left
>fuck around for a couple weeks
>try memeing around in wh
>realize its boring as fuck, which is why I quit in the first place
>>
>>170361413
t. salty marauder pilot

>>170361575
Eh, it's only as boring as you'd make it out to be.
Ganking freighters and miners in high-sec makes me horny though, which is why I still play this bullshit game.
>>
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>>170361413
How does it feel to be poor? Also obviously people are instaskilling caps and never flying anything else.
>>
>>170361750
Well if """""pvp"""""" is what it was when I left, aka waiting games and blobbing, I beg to differ
>>
>yeah only a poor person wouldn't spend billions on ratting ships and then be smug about it
>>
>>170361575
>don't like boring places
>lives in wh
are you some kind of masochist?
>>
>>170361918
>he thinks caps are only useful for ratting

Truly the mind of a poorfag shitter.
>>
>>170361918
>ratting ships
Because only nullplebs are flying caps. Try flying outside hs or fw
>>
>capital pilots calling someone a shitter

I still can't get over this part
>>
>>170362179
Because you are just low. Go back to your venture
>>
>>170361173
>>170359818
>carrier ratting nerfed
>rorqual mining nerfed
>lvl5s nerfed
>lvl4 blitzing nerf incoming
>exporation is overfarmed and worthless
>DED plex loot is overfarmed and worthless
>station trading nerfed, tax is crazy and you're forced to offshore orders
>solo industry nerfed, you need a vulnerable and easily destroyed EC now

only resub if you have a couple hundred billion Isk. CCP hates income and is doing everything in their power to make keeping yourself in ships more annoying.
>>
>>170362436
l5s got nerfed?
>>
>>170362391
much more skillful than flying a rorqual
>>
>>170362436
>station trading nerfed due to taxes
That just means you can jew the market harder

RELIST B O Y S
>>
>>170362524
>mining
have fun :')
>>
>>170362436
fuck, you had to remind me of all this
Exploration was basically a shekel printing machine, but it sucks ass now

>>170362501
Yeah, they did.
>>
>>170362501
try it on sisi, you lose fighters left and right now
>>
>>170362436
The only bad things on that list are the two on the bottom. Reducing DED site loot is good.
>>
>>170362678
But they already were getting full dps afaik. So nothing should change. Meh.
>>
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>Caldari Chimera Carrier redesign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izz2GZUlRSU
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>>170363117
>literally cant see shit because its constantly being hit by missiles and the focus is on the fucking engines or fighters
>>
how are level 5s being nerfed
>>
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>>170363437
Fighters are getting aggro. Its the end of the world.
>>
>>170363864
so nothing specific to level 5s then?
>>
>play online spaceship game
>le its all about le butterflie effex xdd
>peeveepee
>better not bring anything mildly expensive or interesting or you're gonna get blobbed
>people actually take pride in whoring on kills
>gate camps are still fun after 13 years
>ayy lmao its fun guys
>>
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>>170363537
coincidence?
>>
Should I train into caps on my main? Or should I do it on an alt? And how many cynos do I need?
>>
>>170364050
>>better not bring anything mildly expensive or interesting or you're gonna get blobbed

stop being a shitter
>>
>>170364125
>he's nice
>he's nice
>charming
>reasonable
>an actual description besides I like him
>competent
>I know him and he's a good CSM

Sounds very persuasive and totally not biased.
>>
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>>170364720
>inb4 you're going to tell me it isnt true
>>
>>170364829
you're trying to make it sound like a flaw with the game, when really what you're saying is >bawwwww I lost muh special snowflake faction ship
>>
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>>170364953
I dont even play the game dude

also
>implying its not
>>
>>170364829
It's only true if you're a shitter.
>>
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>>170365051
>being this much of a retarded shitter
>>
>>170364728

His original point is very true though. Doesn't matter how deep an understanding a person has if they're just going to sperg out and not be able to hold a reasonable conversation/argument over changes.
>>
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>>170365328
>namecalling
>me
>the shitter
>>
>>170365670
man if you keep posting le laughing man I'll have to admit you're right
>>
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>>170366147
I'm glad you like the memes I found on my favourite subreddit
>>
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>redesigns
>>
>>170364690
I trained for carriers on my main just to move my stuff around. A dedicated alt is better though unless you have like 150 mil SP. One cyno is fine if you train for ceptors.
>>
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Quality thread lads, let's hope Kevin can keep up for the next one
>>
>>170362874
The sigs on some of the fighters got fucking doubled so they're super easy to hit now and often get alphas by ships
>>
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thread pls calvin
>>
>Svips can fit 2mse after nerf
>Conff alpha sucks another ship lost to solo pvp
>80% of null players fly t3cs incoming nerf will wreck null until mass training to machs is done
>mach prices will go down sell stock asap

nice way to fuck everyone in one week
>>
>>170367737
what did he mean by this
>>
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>>170367737
Injectors price will go high af
>>
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me /eog/. I keep training for more and more expensive ships but I'm still as afraid of losing them and specifically the money that's put into them. What do
>>
>>170367908
everyone can already fly mach because everyone had a maelstrom doctrine.
>>
why the fuck is ecm still in the game
>>
hows this cane fit guys
Hurricane, PvP Hurricane
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
1600mm Steel Plates I
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier I
Stasis Webifier I

425mm AutoCannon I x4
425mm AutoCannon I
425mm AutoCannon I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Hobgoblin II x8
Republic Fleet EMP M x1928
EMP M x720
Republic Fleet Fusion M x1280
>>
>wingspan delivery services
>>
>>170368501

I think its the most autistic bunch I know of and that is really saying something in eve. They will literally spend 5-10 mins after any kill writing out a cringy personalised delivery mail while chuckling to themselves
>>
>>170368315
>Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

meta adaptive nano plating is better resists and 0 cpu

>all those other t1 modules

at least use meta, what the fuck
>>
>>170369486
>>170369486
>>170369486
go
>>
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