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P2W Edition

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy


>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>[soon?] New Probe System
>[April] CONCORD Ships
>[March] Balance Tweaks: Focused Warp Scrambling Script
>[March] Balance Tweaks: Fighters, Supercarriers & Burst Projectors
>[March] Mobile Warp Disruptor changes
>[March] Rorqual and Mining changes
>[March] Mining Drone Specialization skill and T2 Mining Drones

Past:
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

Previous >>170095247

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Thanks Gav
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TENGOO RISE 2017
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Is Astero a good ship?
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first for infinite ammo
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>>170369793
no
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>PL/NC CSM think if you make lowsec like nullsec it would fix everyones problem

Why vote for these people.
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Why no CSM candidate for more remaps?
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>>170369793
yes for scanning and killing covops, for fighting proper combat ships it needs a ton of bling.

covops with max skills become better at scanning, but astero is superior at requiring no skills
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I du wan exPLOre hedr it maek a LOTTa mone
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>>170370258
You forgot about the Asteros' superior align time.
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>>170370247
Because they will be changing attributes eventually, it was mentioned when they changed clones.
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Is the XL scorch meme real?

Rev vs Nag for null fleets?
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>Dragging the mouse creates a dragbox rather than rotating the camera
What the fuck kind of bug is this
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>>170371795
Stop holding control.
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>>170372080
I wasn't though.
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>>170372285
I don't know then.
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>>170372285

Maybe your keyboard is fucked
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>>170372080
sometimes happen to me too
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>>170369793
Its the only covop frig that can kill stuff on 1v.
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>>170372621

Hey now, I'll have you know I have a few kills in my Helios.
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>>170369856
>2 sites
>43% on all crytals
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>not cloaking in a relic site with a blaster manticore
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>>170372852
Load T1 crystals.

Then load scorch anyway because why else would you use lasers?
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>>170372859

Bombers don't count.
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Guys i recently upgraded my toaster to a skylake build 100% budget its 8gbs of ram i3 6100 + gx 1060 6gb (the tiny evga sc) and im having kinda of low frames with an ultra large monitor, thing is gtav which as far as i know is a more demanding title its doing way better than eve, is this game like cpu bound or something? my cpu its the thing i jew the most you guys thin i should go for an i5?
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>>170371635
Rev, but not because of scorch, you basically never want to use anything but short range ammo on a dread except for when you are shooting with high angle guns at Battleships.

Nag is more versatile tho.

Nag is basically the safest choice to ever pick for a dreadnought.
Rev used to be shit a few months ago and for the longest time.
Moros got the short end with that same patch.
Phoenix is best at shooting subcaps but meh for structures or capitals, unless they are neuted shield caps.
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>>170373173
I play on a toaster with a broken graphics card, I don't know a thing about how the game works above minimum settings.
You're better off asking in the official technical support forum.
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>>170373603
Iam well above recommende settings!
Things arnt taht bad i get like 45-55 fps all times even in bigish fleets cant expect much of a 600 build is guess.
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>>170373173

EVE is definitely more CPU intensive than GPU. Disabling sound will help with fleets etc
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>>170373801
try with shader and post fx settings at medium
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>>170373221
I have had a moros since it had the drone bonus guns5 dread5 but it's just meh now.

I like the rev but the capless guns thing is pretty big now.
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Why is energy neuts a thing
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How the do you figtht against an Orthus? It is just too fast and the missles kill any fast tackle before I can get on him.
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>>170375215

Fight fire with fire? Or just mass caracals and tanky tackle.
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>>170375164

Counter for various fit types that would otherwise lack significant weaknesses. Variety too
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>>170375324
>a cruiser that is so op you actually have to engage it en masse or with gay baiting
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>CCP killing carrier ratting
What do we think?
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>>170376741
Get good.
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>>170376741
They aren't though, rats blapping fighters after the sig nerf is a thing that doesn't happen outside of the imagination of nullbears.
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>>170376741
>implying people here can afford a carrier
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>>170376991
>>170376947
try it vs angels, it's gg for carriers. everyone will run smartbomb bs again
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>>170377068

I could afford a dozen carriers easily. I just don't fly them because fuck caps.
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>>170377068
I can afford a carrier and I'm spacepoor. It's not exactly hard and they insure well on top of that.
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>stratpaps
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>it's gg for carriers
Okay, stop carrier ratting then.
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>>170377661
Agree. Also stop Rorqual mining, it's getting nerfed too.
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>>170377740
Exactly.
Also stop being gay, dicks are getting nerfed as we speak.
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>>170378181

Speak for yourself, my dick has never been harder.
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Is pupper a meme? Can I have fun there?
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what are the minimum skills (guns/ship) that I should have before flying one?

I am training into amarr cruisers now, should I wait until I have med energy guns V and cruiser IV or is it okay to use with only meta guns and cruiser III?

I really want to fly the maller but I don't want to be just throwing it away for the sake of impatience. I've heard a lot that lasers are very reliant on their T2 variants/ammo
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>>170380351
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>maller
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>>170380776
>prophecy
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>>170380776
>>170381012

lads please
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>>170380606
3/3 is fine for PVE or if you're just starting out. 4 ship/t2 guns should be your goal for PVP though.
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>>170380351
We're all memes here anon.
Maybe to the second.
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>>170381493

Okay thanks mate. I just found a good compromise which is acting as bait. I have T2 smalls already so all I need to do is train cruiser IV and then I can do that. I doubt many people would go for it nowadays but then there are a lot of new/rusty pilots like me around who wouldn't know I have 91k ehp in armour
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>>170381790
Literally no one is going to engage a maller, and if it is its gonna be newbros and those killmails arent worth shit. What do you expect to learn out of that? If you wanna fly amarr cruisers so bad just fly a nomen. If thats too expensive step down a notch and fly navy frigs or something.
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>>170382157

I already fly T1/Navy/T2 frigs, I just want to try something different and cruisers are the logical next step
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Should I train legion or proteus? Which is better in general and which one will give more useful skills (ie. Amarr cruiser V vs Gallente cruiser V)?
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>>170382517

Gallente Cruiser V hands down for utility. You have a huge number of fighting options and, very strong PVP and PVE ships.

Amarr Cruiser V if you really like Amarr ships.

I don't know about T3Cs though
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>guy in horde brings a cloaked looter to a large fight
>mfw watching the drama
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>>170382517
Unlike Amarr, Gallente actually has decent T2 options.
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>>170382859

Right now? Which comms?
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>Changes are coming to resource gathering in New Eden, and the game mechanics behind the process. The chance to discover untold riches and explore the unknown in New Eden will become even more accessible with an overhaul of asteroid fields.

What did they meme by this?
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>>170383428

More mining opportunities in WH space?
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So what happened to the supposed vexor redesign?
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>take good looking ship
>redesign it so it looks worse
>ignore ugly ships
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>My subjective opinions regarding how ships look is correct, other opinions are wrong.
Grow up.
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>>170383428
>corps will need 100 low SP alpha slave workers per moon to mine the moonrocks their mining platform spits out
>Moonrocks consist of 3 layers of moonore that needs to cool down for 72 hours after getting mined
>Moonrocks will have a mining laser damage cap
>you'll need to organize 3 large mining ops to break them up
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>>170384162

He is right that they seem to leave the worst for last though
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>>kugu is back
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>>170384162
He's perfectly right, and hi sentiment is shared by the vast majority of people

You're just being contrary for the hell of it

Grow up
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>3 more days until injectors

HURRY UP
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>>170384214
Oh, okay. Thanks, Foozie.
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>>170384797
>Not buying injectors with Plex money
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>>170385056

I did a bit before but I've already gone way over my annual budget for this game already
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>>170384523
The vast majority of the comments on this video are positive toward the redesign. Now who's being contrarian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h118soy36Ew&t=0s
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>>170384162
>CCP are redesigning ships other than osprey bellicose and celestis
>anon thinks this is fine
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Why do people like the unique ship designs of eve being made more generic?
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>>170386641
It's just caldari seen shitters, they all have shit taste
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>>170386769
People that want Caldari ships redesigned are the ultimate plebians. The Osprey is a decent looking ship. It's not pretty, but there are so many uglier ships that I can't understand why people complain about it. I can accept people not liking ships like the old Moa and Blackbird, although I actually liked the Moa, but the Caracal really did not need a redesign and neither do the Osprey or Cormorant. I've never really looked at the Chimera so I'm not going to comment on it.
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Daily reminder that the moros is absolutely inferior to the naglfar
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>>170387269

Mate the Corm stylistically was fine but it looked like a lego model from circa 2000
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>>170387389
I suppose so, I'm just annoyed that they keep redesigning ships I like whilst leaving the Celestis and other abominations alone.
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>>170387269
>The Osprey is a decent looking ship
Nah
It's in the same can as the old moa, celestis, imicus, burst, and every minmatar cruiser except the stabber

Speaking of which, I wish they'd update the minmatar frigs already. On one hand we have things like the hound (which looks amazing by the way), but on the other hand some frigs still have their 2008 models. It'd be nice if they were to just update their models and textures while not making them drastically different.
Kinda like what happened to the tempest.
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>>170382859
>brought one looter
>blapped
>brought another one
>blapped
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>>170388761
This desu.

The design of the hound was the only reason I trained Minmatar frigs to V, but some of those other ships just look terrible.

I feel as though just about everything but the celestis is fine in basic design, but there's a laundry list of ships that could just use poly and texture updates.
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G A R M U R
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what ship do you guys main?
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>>170389719
Ratting VNI, of course
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>>170389719
Sabre.
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>>170389719

Ratting Ishtar, of course
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>can't like the new chimera design without being called either a contrarian or tasteless pleb
I like sharp edges though
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>>170389719
Ratting Naglfar, of course.
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are the VNI/ishtar the best ticks you can get at subcap level solo? not including smartbombing machs or whatever
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>ccp doesn't dare touch the rifter and variants because "muh iconic ships"
>doesn't realize they can just update the models and textures
>rifter model rots away forever looking like something from 2004


>>170390523
rattlesnake best subcap ratting ship prove me wrong fgts
well actually a vindicator can pull better ticks but it requires 20 years of blaster skills and like 50 dps/optimal/tracking implants
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>>170390523
No, they're just a good balance of easy to use, safe, fast to train into and cheap.
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>>170390726
>ishtar
>cheap

stop being rich you fuck
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>>170389719

Leadership.
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>>170390441
I secretly like the new Chimera too
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>>170390523

Drone ships are not the best ticks, they are the best lazy ticks.
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>>170390805
When I said cheap I was mostly referring to the vni, most pve ships are not going to pay for themselves in a couple of hours, but if an extra hundred million for an ishtar is going to break the bank you have issues.
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>>170391116
>if an extra hundred million for an ishtar is going to break the bank you have issues.
I wouldn't if injectors were cheaper
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>being an injector-cuck
x...D?
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>being too poor for injectors
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>having played this game for more than a month
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has anyone actually unironically tried ratting in a dread with HAWs?

What are the ticks like?
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>injectors on pve ships
>having to keep warping back to station to pick up more
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>>170391654
Pretty shit because your siege cycle lasts 5 minutes but you can finish the site in less than 2.
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>>170390805
Fine then buy a 60m VNI
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>>170392106

Or a 300m rattlesnake which gets shitloads more dps, tank and utility.
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>when you loan someone 8b

am i going to get scammed guys?
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>drink an experience potion
>only get 150,000 XP
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>>170392228
thats even more expensive than a Ishtar
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>>170392228
>300m rattlesnake
Where the fuck do you live to get that kind of prices
My ratting snake set me back 400m for the hull alone
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>>170392341

At 50m/hour (and that's being super fucking lazy), it doesn't matter.
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>>170392276
>tfw I'm struggling to maintain cost for T1 cruisers

How man? I have like 20m isk right now and I'm relying on insurance every time to replace
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>>170392276
Why did you loan someone 8b?
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>>170392276
>loaning anyone in eve any amount of money
>8b
I wish you'd """"loan"""" me 8b anon

But do tell, what's the story behind that? What's caused you to give 8b to someone without absolute certainty you'll get your hard earned ISK back?
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>>170392371

Minerals I mine are free, as are the LP.
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>park cap stable rattlesnake in site
>activate auto targeting missiles
>drop drones
>click once every 2 minutes to recycle missiles
>get better ticks than VNI
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>destroyers don't get torpedoes
will smith.jpg

>>170391994
that sounds pretty good actually
A haven is 30m, and if you can finish one of those in a siege cycle and are able to chain sites, you can theoretically get up to 100m ticks which is a lot more than a carrier
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>fly round a ratting system in a T1 frig with <3m fittings
>90% of the system docks up
>they stay there getting increasingly frustrated as I zip around
>denying their corp 100s of millions of isk in ratting time

lmoa
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>>170392443
>How man?
I use isk per hour and make things that are profitable and sell them.

>>170392493
>>170392490
>Why did you loan someone 8b?
A corp mate wanted isk to make stuff
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>>170393007
>that sounds pretty good actually
Its not, you're highly vulnerable after the site is done and can't do shit and the ticks are worse than a VNI

You can't chain sites
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How do all those "rich" (ie. more than 1b in wallet at any given time) people do it without spending 80% of their time in game ratting? Did I miss a t2 bpo handout somewhere?
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>>170393204
I carrier rat for 150m/h which pretty much pays for all my shit. I do it like 2-3 times a week and I make dank cash.

I also do level 5 missions which nets me like 700m/h
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>>170393204
I spend 10 minutes a day updating market orders.
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>>170393112
>ticks are worse than a VNI
I doubt it though
A VNI can't clear a haven in less than 20 minutes
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>>170393328
Yea it fucking can, you can do at least 1.5 havens per tick easily
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>>170393328
Its because you lose so much time in siege, 3 minutes of waiting is pretty brutal. Also you have to buy ammo and stront
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>>170393431
>getting 45m ticks in a VNI
Is this actually for real? Because if it is, I'm dropping my carrier this instant
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>>170393559
You can get like 20m ticks but you certainly can finish a haven in sub 20 minutes
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>>170393701
a haven is 30 million in bounties though
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>want to train DSTs for literally no other reason than being able to avoid space aids while traveling my nullblob alliance while being able to survive long enough for help to arrive in case I get caught
>want to train into impel instead of occator despite occator being better literally only because muh purity
I need help
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The following is from the E-UNI wiki:
>The Micro Jump Drive is for escaping bumping attempts, which is more of a high security space threat (elsewhere they simply use a HIC).
I don't get it, how can a HIC stop you from crashing gate?
Why are hics so dangerous in gatecamps aside from bubbles? What am I missing here?
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>>170394914
>how can a HIC stop you from crashing gate?
HIC point disables your ability to MJD or MWD
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>>170394971
Can't you overheat pulse once and let intertia carry you the 10k needed?
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>>170395117
the MWD shuts off instantly when you do. Instalock hics are a thing, you'll barely gain any speed you better hope you have enough tank to burn the rest of the way to get a jump
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>>170395252
>the MWD shuts off instantly when you do
ah shit that must be it
hics are scary, got it thanks
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>>170395117
if you're on a fast ship yes, but anything not nano won't make it
and if they have webs you definitely won't make it, and if they bump you goodbye ship.
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>>170389096
Ferox.jpg
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>nano

shit at eve
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>nanofiber reinforced bulkheads
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>enemy dictor places bubble on gate to slow us down
>we land less than 2k from gate anyway
nice bubble
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>blob chasing my solo frigate
>get into warp
>dictor drops bubble 1s later
>entire gang bubbled, I'm out of system before they can warp

Bad dictor pilots make solo more fun
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>>170395337
They're getting changed soon, you'll have to have a "precision" script which limits your range to 20km for the scram effect to work unlike the current 37km scram model
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>>170398362
That's 20 with top skills and faction
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>>170398362
which kind of sucks because its an amazing anti-kite ship that really disrupted kite fleets
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>>170398475
fuck off retard it's just an anti everything ship
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>>170398841

100mn ab fits would like to have a word with you about that.
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>>170398841
>anti everything
>even brawlers and other shit that doesn't require the ability to move or anything
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>>170399004
forcing everyone into retarded shit fits, yeah sounds like it's countering everything else pretty effectively
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>>170399294
You're fucking retarded, HIC's were explicitly anti-kite thats what they were good at. Its not some universal kill-all button

With the introduction of the precision script you're just gonna see way more kite fleets again and HIC's will only be good at stopping command destroyers and retarded kiters who get within 20km
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>>170399105
yeah warp scamming a brawler from 40km won't bother them at all will it
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>>170399294

100mn ab fits aren't retarded. They're just outside the box your tiny mind has close itself off in.
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>>170399294
>170399294
>complaining about people making formidable counters
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>>170399381
You're going to see more people undocking and more retarded shitters getting flustered at the sight of kiting ships
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>>170399513
Holy fuck you're retarded, we kill hic's regardless of their bullshit

Fit a fucking AB there are all viable fits here it diversified fits you dumb fuck
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>>170399601
You're fucking stupid if you think being unable to undock without oversized ab makes hics ok or makes you good at eve
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I'm new as fuck.

Should I be conserving all my extra skill points to spend on high end stuff, or are they more of a commodity that I'll be able to get again in the future? How should I be using these?
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>>170400231
You're fucking retarded if you think that you need a 100mn AB to kill hic's
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>>170400326
You're fucking retarded if you think we're talking about just killing a hic
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>>170400468
>talking about hics
>WE ARENT TALKING ABOUIT JUST KILLING HICS

christ you're one of those crybaby manginas who bitches about everything that kills him
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>>170400264

Skills have multipliers to their training time. You should spend them on skills with high multipliers to save more training time.
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>>170400567
alright, thanks friend
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>>170400561
>hurr muh 1v1
>actual pvp relevance

choose one and kys
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>>170400684
Its not even 1v1 PVP the HIC has what? 3 points MAX before it seriously starts gimping its tank and cap for running those things?

You have a fleet of what? 5-10? just fuckin kill it. If it points something it can't be repped

you don't need 100mn AB's to fly around with HIC's, you can use regular 10mn AB's or you can just kite from 40km like an ONI or any drone ship can
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>>170400791
>5-10

do I
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What did ((she)) mean by this?
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>3dpd
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>sebiestor
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>>170401097
that guys art is shit
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>blue tiger
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Anyone with skill farms here? How long until enough to extract?
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>not igc victory
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>>170402906

I've got 3 and its little over a week
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>>170402906

Or if you meant from .5 to 5.5m SP then ~78 days (omega)
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So are they ever going to make the superb character creator they went through all the trouble of making actually mean something?
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>>170404461
kill yourself
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>>170404461

They really should have just ignored the sperg out and finished it off. They were 90% done with it anyway
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Name me a good frigate.
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>>170405019
Crucifier
Griffin
Maulus
Vigil
Magnate
Heron
Imicus
Probe
Executioner
Condor
Atron
Slasher
Punisher
Merlin
Incursus
Breacher
Tormentor
Kestrel
Tristan
Inquisitor
Bantam
Navitas
Burst
Venture
Sentinel
Kitsune
Keres
Hyena
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>>170405019

Breacher.
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>>170405019
rifter
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>>170405019

Every frigate in the game except for the rifter
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>>170404461
Here's what's going to happen if they try:
>rough model appears on sisi server
>mass outrage at ccp trying to make WIS a thing instead of fixing whatever they deem important
>CCP cancels the whole thing
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>>170405705
Wasn't the whole captains quarters thing supposed to be a graphical test for a World in Darkness game that was canceled?
>>
Reminder to ignore WIS shitters
>>
Reminder to ignore reminder to ignore WIS shitters shitters
>>
>>170405393
Also crow, ares, cheetah, maulus navy issue
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>>170406434
t. erpfag
>>
>>170406545
t. No friends to interact with
>>
nice excuse
>>
I mean, I would rather walk around in stations than spin my ship while in citadel/station which is like 70% of my total playtime
>>
t. gay erpfag
>>
>replying

will smith
>>
ray charles
>>
>he would rather spin ships than chill in a bar waiting to undock
>>
>>170407698
>he thinks ccp will ever get that far
>I'd be happy with just a sci-fi looking square room with a table and a window
>>
Name a bad Dreadnaught
>>
the serpentis one
>>
>>170407842
>Click Captain's Quarters in Jita
>1,000 characters all jammed into a 20x20 room
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>>170409328
kek. That's exactly what I imagine.
>>
apocalypse
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9 people on an impairor kill.
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>>170409975
>only ewar, only ewar, holdhim hold him for the fleet !!!
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>>170407842

They already made most of it. You can look up old videos
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>>170410104
Hold dps I'm 2 jumps out
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>>170407887
Moros.
>>
Should I train into a confessor, git gud and apply to HTP?

If not, why shouldn't I fall for the capless guns meme and HTP?
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>HTP
Why would you join them
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What do your hangars look like?
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>legion
>>
How do we make the hecate good?
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>>170412858
hows your wormhole doing anon
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>>170413448
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60528873/
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>>170413859
>tackling a fleet lemming with long range weapons makes a ship good
from all we know he could have disconnected with a timer mid fight and probed down by angry hyenas
>>
>dying to MC
>>
>>170413969
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60513113/
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>>170414203
thats not even a fit anon
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>>170414203
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>>170412538
Watched a few of their videos, flown with them once in a spec fleet op, seems like a pretty comfy group desu.
>>
>>170414384
Yeah, I guess you're right. My point is that the Hecate is actually pretty useful. Camps Dodixie pretty well.
>>
>orthrus
>logi
>T3s
>blops

kys
>>
What do I do to channel the spirit of /dog/?
>>
fly amarr unironically
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Say one nice thing about each faction
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>faction
You mean race
>>
faction
>>
you mean nation
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Australian Timezone? Join my corp!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6863846
>>
*notices eviction* 0w0 what's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVSw9WhpPqQ
>>
>>170417079

Yeah nah aye
>>
>>170418576
nice vid, gj hard knocks
>>
>>170418767
k
>>
>Take a month to train into Confessors
>Get bored of it in 2 weeks
What do?
>>
fly something else
>>
>>170419051
Polarized Crusader
>>
>>170419217
Reported
>>
>>170405705
This is a massive simplification. Eve was not not getting enough dev attention due to the development of WoD and Dust.
People were already unhappy when ccp released the captain's quarters as a test for WoD and because of it people started protesting in jita and unsubbing.
Due to how overextended CCP was at that time this was enough to make them shelve WoD and focus on Eve.
>>
>>170418576
shared on r/oruze :)
>>
>>170392276
Corpmate loaned me 24b nearly month ago. I still have 8 days and Im going to do this. It really depends who are you loaning money to.
>>
Why does PL act like a bunch of stupid niggers?
>>
>>170420636
What have they done?
>>
>>170420636
Because they have too much power. Just like Imperium acted like a bunch of stupid niggers before them.
>>
>>170385148
Show me a video with negative comments as proof
>>
>>170420636
Are you in brave?
>>
>>170420636

mad shitter
>>
>>170420636
>be gay
>someone calls you gay
>"lol u mad"

same shit as goons and all other meme groups really
>>
Is Oruze Cruise an /eog/ corp?
>>
Why is kill whoring a thing? Why don't you just get the one who does the most damage or last hit or something and then something anonymous like "10 other parties involved"? Wouldn't it effectively kill kill whoring and make the game better?
>>
>>170422086
Nah, zkb padders is the perfect free intel.
>>
>>170422061
reddit
>>
>>170422061
No it's a bonafide reddit guild.

>>170422086
Why not? Pretty much every other game does it that way. If you're gonna show it, no point in not showing it all.
>>
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>Oruze Cruise unironically posting on plebbit

Biomass IRL Tim.
>>
>>170422336
>>170422354
How come they spill so many /r9k/ shit?
>>
>>170422354
Because it would stop people from circlejerking and ""holding"" kills for their entire fleet to kill, which is gay as hell.
>>
>>170422336
so basically /eog/
>>
>>170422417
>normalfags unable to hide powerlevel
Gee I wonder

>>170422465
ebin
>>
>Train and save up to get a Tengu and level 5 skills across the board for the subsystems.

>Think running 10/10s is going to make me rich enough to plex an alt account and start doing more PvP stuff with less PvE in the middle to support the cost.


>Pay 100 million per site on the corps exchange, personal effects are worth 127million after taxes. So far best faction drop has been a 100 million isk item. So on my best day i've made out with 127 million in profit minus cost of the missles.

>Was making 30 million ticks crabbing before.

I feel like I've been suckered into buying a failing McDonalds franchist or something. The isk generation just isn't what I thought it'd be.
>>
>>170422745
Thats sad anon. FW plebs are earning more in frigates.
>>
>he fell for the t3 meme
>>
>>170422745
That's because the drops are entirely luck of the draw. Sometimes you get shit and sometimes you make out with a BPC or a faction drop that's worth 400+mil.
>>
>fly obvious bait
>never die

I have won eve
>>
>join clan
>anon did you just yellowbox me? spai
>remove from guild.
>>
Worst bait I've seen in a while @170423463
>>
axaxaxa
>>
Aren't PL a bunch of /pol/acks?
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>>170422437
Yeah, and it'd give rise to people arguing about who has to get the non-anonymous killing blow. You can't prevent faggotry, and you shouldn't sacrifice useful mechanics in trying.

>>170422745
>>Pay 100 million per site on the corps exchange

Do you also pay people to fuck your wife?
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>>170412858
>>170413605
>>
Why there are no citadels in Jita? You can't place anchor them there?
>>
>>170425393
No PoSes, no POCOs, no wormholes either.
caldari
>>
>>170425393
>>170426454
Same for Dodixie, Rens and Amarr.
>>
Remote hull repair bonus for the Oneiros when?
>>
>>170427374

Remote hull rep bonus for all logis when? It makes no sense that ships specializing in remote repping don't have it.
>>
>>170427432
Makes more sense since gallente has a lot of hull tanked ships
Also make the oneiros less useless
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>>170429134
>it goes so fast that it cannot maintain an orbit small enough to use its drones
>>
>>170429296

The drones are when it gets tackled by a ceptor.
>>
>>170429405
I'm talking about the drone link aug in its high.

Also, its RLMLs are more potent than drones.
>>
>>170429927

When you have one ceptor tackling you and another is on the way, you need it killed asap. The drones help.
>>
>>170430159
I'm not debating that. It's just that it's a weird choice for a high slot.
>>
>>170430251

True enough. I'd have gone with a cloak.
>>
>>170430407
I hope you're memeing. A cloak significantly fucks up your fitting, and targeting speed,
>>
>>170430657

An offline cloak doesn't.
>>
>Not filling utility highs with salvagers
Do you even want to make money from pvp?
>>
>>170430905

That's what salvage drones and mtu+depot are for.
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>>170430835
Yeah it does
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>>170431135

Wait what? CCPls.
>>
>>170431192
Modules with drawbacks still give drawbacks while offline.
>>
>>170412858
Hi NoVac
>>
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>needing more than one ship
>>
https://updates.eveonline.com/date/2017-03-14/
>>
>>170435526

and voila! all the carriers are now ugly
>>
>>170435881

What? Thanny is still sexy.
>>
>>170431376
Not all of them, an offline 1600mm plate doesn't reduce your agility and speed
>>
>>170436275

Does an offline LSE increase sig rad?
>>
>Hics still keep their 40km point
wow it was nothing all along.
>>
>>170436454
They aren't keeping a 40km scram, the difference is significant.
>>
>>170435964
That's not how you spell Niddy
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>thorax
>it's a literal dick
>>
>>170422745
don't pay for them
do the split thing, you give them 30% of the drops
>>
>>170435526
When they remove the old scanning I'm gonna kill myself
>>
>>170439456
Please don't kill yourself, anon~
>>
>>170439456
How bad is the new scanning?
>>
>>170439929
>le funny colors, sounds and graphical bloat to attract adhd idiots and le ebin twitch streamers
>>
>>170439929
It's literally the same thing with slightly different ui
It's another case of faggot whines about literally any change
>>
>>170439929

it's different REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>170440202
Fuck off retard, the new scanning is shit. Same as the beta map.
>>
>>170440315

honestly, until you mentioned it i had completely forgotten the beta map existed

absolute trash
>>
>>170440315
>its got colors now
>REEEEEEEEEEEE eve is ruined
Literally you
>>
>>170440459
>old scanning
>simple utilitarian look

>new scanning
>everything fucking glows
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>Amarr
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Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>170442564
Just bring a Keres :^)
>>
'gambler' ladar ecm
>>
>keres
>not maulus or celestis

faggot detected
>>
>>170444593
>damps
>not damp or damps
>>
>>170440315
The scanning interface that's on tq currently is trash. The one on sisi is much better.
>>
>>170444831
t. shill
>>
>>170389719
Friendship
>>
>>170444593
>taking the T1 counterpart over the much more superior T2 keres

literally biomass yourself
>>
>/eog/ relies on Oneiroses to stay alive
>Official forums are dead
>Reddit is reddit
What's the best place to discuss EVE?
>>
>>170445592
Here and /v/ bros ingame channel
>>
>>170445543
>much more superior

self-desruct irl faggot
>>
>>170445592
Neopets forums
>>
>>170445743
>being this much buttblasted over t2
>>
>>170445743
>huge ass point and scram range and cap use bonus per level of EAS
>not superior

>he only uses his maulus to damp
>he can't act as a long range secondary point and scram if needed

here's your (you), faggot.
>>
>>170445592

Reddit by a long shot. /eog/ is the most "reddit" place in the way it is used here by a long shot. You'll rarely receive anything other than shitposting and memes to any legitimate question
>>
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>>170446117
>>
>>170445997
>cap use bonus

lmao

>needing a long range secondary point and scram because his real tackle pilots are garbage
>>
>Your T2 Heavy drones are out there attacking something.
>Your FC fleet warps everyone out.
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>cap usage bonus
>>
>only tacklefrigs fit tackle
>>
>maulus pilot
>probably reliable and intelligent

>keres pilot
>watched a reddit meme video, will probably die instantly, kick from fleet asap
>>
>maulus pilot
>probably reliable and intelligent
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>>170446117
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>funny-dog-face-happy-birthday-cake-1.jpg
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>>170389719
Nightmare
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>>170448194
>people slingshot you by sitting still
>>
>>170389719
Financial hardship.
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>>170389719

corax
>>
I played EvE when I was 13 years old and played it while listening to Three Days Grace Lets Start A Riot and I enjoyed it. But now I'm too intimidated to get into the game again.
>>
>>170449347

It's less intimidating than it has ever been before.

Just make a F2P alpha clone, join one of the newbie nullsec corps like Pandemic Horde, and be fawned over by overly-nice new player helpers until you're acclimated again.
>>
>ping for cta
>logoff
>play gwent
>>
are all eu players autistic?

why?
>>
>>170450147
your
>>
>victory caracal

why is this allowed
>>
What did she mean by this?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60522978/
>>
>>170452464
Does he self-identify as a girl?
>>
>>170452464
That's the strongest meme I've seen all day
>>
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>mfw dual tank
>mfw I have no resist holes

you're already dead
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>mfw active hull tanking
>>
How to kill rapier who double web you 40km away? He use fast light missile and drones.

He can't kill me but I can't kill him. I want to learn how kill rapier. Teach me to become good.
>>
>>170452965
warp off
>>
>>170452965
Warp around until you bait him into landing at 0 on you. Then pretty much any t1 cruiser can kill him if you have a scram and web.
>>
>>170452965
are you fighting him right now?
>>
>>170453118
this. or another nice trick vs kitey morons is get them to aggress around a gate, you run away and jump out, and then you jump back in and hopefully they'll be on the gate at 0 waiting on their weapons timer or in position to catch you
>>
>>170436346

Answer, you fucks.
>>
>>170454404
no
>>
>>170454404
Yes
>>
>>170454404
mayb
>>
>>170454404
idk
>>
>>170393112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QE5JukFBnA

I'm training for Phoenix now
>>
>>170456157
Nag is better
>>
>>170393204
>trade, industry and PVE until 10b in wallet
>burn out
>wallet hits 5b
>feel poor and get motivated to make Isk again
I've been hovering between 40 and 50b networth for years now, I can't make enough Isk to get a super or buy/inject characters but I make enough to keep myself in ships and plex 2-5 accounts every month.
>>
>Jita 4-4
>>
>>170400567
>>170400674
The amount of skillpoints you get per minute depends on your attributes and what the skill needs.
To maximize SP gain spend your free SP on stuff that trains slowly.
>>
I'll bet there are people right here in this thread that inject sp into stupid shit like t1 ship skills.
>>
>>170457894
what difference does it make
>>
>>170457894
Reporting in.

I've been playing 2 months, somehow had >1.2 billion in my wallet and already had purchased another 3 months game time. Before injecting the biggest thing I could fly was a Vexor.
>>
>>170459162

But Vexor is fucking amazing. Why would you want to fly anything else?
>>
>>170459443
Fun
>>
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>>170457894
>mfw isk positive killing T2 shitters with T1 garbage
>>
>vexor
>not thorax
>>
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>Moros
>>
>new gallente skin
>it's 90% grey
>it's like the yoiul skins but worse

ccp does it again
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>Paquito has joined NC

Who will tell us not to fight without blobbing now?
>>
>>170454404
Can you repeat the question?
>>
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Fuck training non int/mem per/wil skills
>>
>remaps when injectors exist
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>>170462631
>heavy drone v

I still haven't gotten that or sentry v. Probably just going to injector them both.
>>
>>170457894

It is objectively better to inject early on. You get more SP and the SP goes a lot further in core skills, support skills and new ships available.
>>
>>170463035
>injector when you are over 80M sp
Yeah I rather not waste that money
>>
Is Capital Ships V useful thing to train if you don't plan to train for titans?
>>
>>170463281
How tthhfuck do youunot have heavy drones V at 80M sp
>>
>drones
>>
>>170463443
Autism preventing me from training it off remap
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>The Co2 titan kills? Wouldn't have happened without us
>We beat snuff.
>snuff who bowed to peer pressure and blue everyone

What did he mean by this?
>>
>>170463980
snuff pls
>>
Cool reddit drama haha. Politics guise right haha, I'm so celeb haha
>>
>>170464208
xd
>>
>>170463980

What a salty exit. welps 3 fleets can can't batphone NC so he jumps ship.
>>
>>170464610
what an uninformed shitter
>>
>>170464687

Seems pretty informed tbqh, all he ended up doing was blueball unless he got 50-100 more than PM/snuff pets
>>
>lowsec drama
>>
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>lowsec
>>
>>170464989
there is no drama, just tengoo-tier shitters commenting on things they know nothing about
>>
What the fuck do the big lowsec blobs even do? Flip the same R64s all the time?
>>
>>170465172
sounds like /eog/
>>
>>170465206

>Flip 64/dyspros and hit citadels

Citadels go nowhere though since each side batphones everyone after the first timer and loads guided cap bombs that ruin everyone's fun so both sides stand down.
>>
>>170465206
in serious ops, yes. most tryhard blob pvp in lowsec is about baiting other people into dropping caps so you can kill their caps with your caps so they bring in supers so you can kill their supers with your supers, or if you don't have more caps and supers, you batphone people to do it for you

this is just the way it has to be since jump drives are cancer
>>
I'm at jita waiting a WH to open from k-space to my WH home

AMA
>>
>>170465690
Why aren't you scanning farther down the chain?
>>
>>170465817

Because my Corp is a very small one and there's no one online, in theory i could jump to my clone there but i have 0 ships there except for a procurer
>>
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Bday present arrived! :) 3 weeks late but such is life in NZ
>>
>>170466960
Nice :P
>>
>>170466960
you have a nice towel there
>>
>>170467143

I just got out the shower and flattie had left the parcel at my door
>>
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>
>>
>>170463443
>tfw 98 mil SP and sentry drones 4
>have to train all the int/mem skills before I can remap to mem/per
>10 months until per/will
>>
>>170466026

You sound bad at wormholes
>>
>>170468387

i'm pretty new at the game myself, and i'm also very short on cash, so i'm learning the hard way
>>
>>170468524

I apologise for the /dog/ post before my Corp is being shitty today. You technically cannot jump to a clone in w-space. You can however jump between them. Exploring is a good way to make isk new, but your best bet is to find a null exit in your chain and then run sites out there and scan for c1/c2s and run the sites in there.
>>
>>170466026
>i could jump to my clone there
Thought you couldn't install clones in J-space
>>
>>170469815

What? i installed a clone there but i can't jump to it?
>>
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>eos
>>
>>170470042
You can jump to it from the same citadel. In wormholes it's basically so you can have some learning implants (or home defence slaves) and then go out and pvp in empty clones
>>
>>170470548

got it, thanks

Will be a ass to find my way back to my hole, especially broken
>>
>>170470939

If you don't have a scan alt in a hole, it's like trying to find your keys in a bucket of other keys. Good luck.
>>
>>170471058

i have corpmates inside the hole but none are online, what's fun and cheap thing to do in H-sec while i wait for them?
>>
>>170466026
>>170469921
In wspace, you can install jump clones and only jump clone within the same citadel you installed it, never from outside it.
>>
>>170471215

Gank exhumers.
>>
>>170471215

Scan yourself a new chain. You should be able to find some c1 / c2 holes pretty easily as most of them have statics to high sec. You should also start using a chain mapping tool like tripwire or pathfinder. Personally I use tripwire, but other people hate it.
>>
>>170471714

Okay, i will fit a cheap heron and do it, thank's anon

also, i already use pathfinder pretty useful
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>wormhole
>pvp
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>Using a combat recon to capture FW sites as semi-afk ISK generating
I know there's better ways to do this but is my ISK/hr gonna be abyssmal? I enjoy playing cat-and-mouse when pirates come through more than ratting so as long as I'm not making fuckall ISK I'm good with it.
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>>170440604
Case in point.
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Is a Rorqual ever not bait?
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>>170474559
pressing the no-fun button and getting people to save it isn't bait
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>>170474559

Just look at Horde losses. Rorqs are like 75% of the total worth of it
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>>170474807

We have to start measuring ehp differently for rorqs, taking into account potential dps tanked over time. If you suddenly see 2000 titans bridge in next to you, firing their DD at you, you're now tanking billions of ehp worth of damage.
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>>170475241
the depot you drop all your valuables in will also tank those billions of damage
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>If you suddenly see 2000 titans bridge in next to you
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>>170475737
Titans can't take bridges
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>>170475942

"Did you say jump or bridge? I pressed jump."
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Is this a good Buzzard fit?

[Buzzard, Ultimate Exploration Buzzard]
Expanded Cargohold II
Inertial Stabilizers I

1MN Afterburner II
Relic Analyzer I
Data Analyzer I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Salvager I

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
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>mfw the rorq has LSEs and no panic
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>>170476305
Jumping is not taking a bridge

If you're in a titan you can't click on another titan and take their bridge
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>shield extenders on Rorq
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do you ever stop by /v/ sometimes and see the drama and uproar about the latest releases and you think to yourself how good it is in your little comfy eve bubble?
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>>170478413

I just don't understand either side of it. If you fall for market hype you're an idiot, but its also so pointless bitching about it for months on end.
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>>170463370
Yes agility is important for travelling or escaping you don't want to be the last to leave the grid.
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>>170478413
I especially enjoy watching the plebs talk about """MMOs"""
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>>170413605
>>170412858
>4channers are mentally ill, no matter the game
Wow, who knew, I'm totally shocked right now
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>>170480753
what does mentally ill have to do with ship names on a videogame
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>>170478413
Sometimes I cause it purposely by making a generalized statement that is isn't exactly correct but not entirely wrong just to cause turmoil
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>NPC AI more aggressive at shooting your fighters
>fighters sig literally fucking doubled
>no extra HP to stop them from being alpha'd by rats
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>>170480842
he takes names and videogames seriously
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>>170481542
>he doesn't know
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>>170482172
What don't I know?
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>>170482296
It doesn't happen in combat anomalies which is all that most people with pve carriers use them for. Rats blapping fighters left and right has no basis in reality.
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>It doesn't happen in combat anomalies

was I right all along, do combat anoms have special ez ai when it comes to drones and fighters
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>>170483694
it seems that each PvE has different AI

In things like level 4 and level 5 missions its very difficult to keep the AI from shooting your drones/ fighters

in anoms like Havens, they ignore your drones if you're in a VNI

In wormholes, sleepers will ignore your drones if your ship has an ewar module like an ECM, TP or a warfare link module
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>>170483694
Fighters will get a lot more aggro after the patch, but if you make sure they never stop moving and kill webs first you won't lose any.
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