/fhg/ - For Honor General

>>169874387
Why is Kensei so fun bros? Definitely the best vanguard.

>>169874425

Yeah that's pretty much how it happened when I started countering his headbutts.

Seriously, people bitch about Warden and PK and Orochi, but not one of them have been as utterly frustrating as that asshole.

>>169874397
Currently revenge gear builds revenge retarded fast, makes you nigh unkillable and gives absolutely ridiculous damage.

Like you can literally build revenge off two parries if you're geared for it and if you're playing Shugoki you can one shot people, most others need to do 2 at least.

That's not even taking into account stuff like feats that make you unthrowable and how busted the bleed feats are in revenge.

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you know

instead of outright telling when to parry

why not just have the UI never turn red at all

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>warden vs warden duel
>he vortexs me and knocks me off a ledge round 1
>round 2 he's only vortexing so I'm getting used to his playstyle but still lose
>perfect him round 3
>gets mad and tries doing the running attack
>parry and knock him off
>rq as he's falling

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Roach edition

>>169874509
Do you really think that's what makes parries easy and not the fuckhuge window that can be OSed into a feint

>>169874509
Now I really want some sushi. Thanks, faggot.

>>169874530
Does anyone else find it funny that even bot roaches run away after taking damage?

>>169874487
the worst offense, the WORST fucking offense is it PUNISHES YOU for attacking, you literally can't do anything, either you sit there let them attack you day in and day out or you so much as land ONE attack on them which they will ALLOW because REVENGE=INJURY GEAR SO FUCKING PRO.

it PUNISHES you for doing GOOD.

>>169874538
>>169874487
So the complaints are people building it too fast in a 2v1 situation?

So what's this about controllers having a lot more input lag then m + kb on PC? If that's the case why would you use a controller over the keyboard, assume the difference is pretty negligible?

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>>169874569
Programmed to scatter

>>169874606
with gear it builds fast in 1v1 too

>>169874606
It builds too fast in 1v1 situations. You can out play a roach six ways to Sunday but he will get revenge in two hits and then almost one-shot you.

>>169874606
The main complaint I'd say is the fucking damage
It's absolutely absurd. The speed it builds at is just icing on the shit cake.

>>169874530
>>169874569
>play Dominion
>enemy's breaking
>one single roach left
>he's playing hide and seek
>finally find him
>he just runs away from us until the time's out
They're quite literally roaches. For what fucking purpose? Just let the round end be over it.

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Pk can come too

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Post roach removal webms.

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>>169874663
>yfw revenge'd orochi lightning fast double overhead light or lightning fast zone

>>169874663
id say the main complaint is the speed in which it builds

if someone gets revenge you could just turtle until it runs out then go back to playing normally, the problem is that as soon as their revenge is done its up again in 3 seconds

>>169874616
He's right you know

>>169874691
why do we even hate them? roaches arent even that good these days

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Some unassailable truths:

Conqueror is not nearly as strong in 1v1 as people are making him out to be. Any potential nerf because of a couple degenerates using him in week 1 tournaments will completely ruin him if he is not compensated somehow.

Everyone knows this.

Warlord and PK are the only ones who must be nerfed. Shugoki must be nerfed in group fights.

are the servers ded again?

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>start playing for honor
>join knights what am i a weeb?
>start doing duels/2v2
>enjoying the shit out of warden, but can't counter guard break to save my life
>getting absolutely fucked everytime i get grabbed, having to spam lights just to not die from opponents who realize this
>try my best to stay the fuck away from the environment as well, think it's honorable to avoid all enviro kills

THEN

>master the CGB timing
>anyone who can't counter my guard breaks are getting absolutely destroyed
>people who try to throw me off a ledge end up getting CGB'd to their own deaths half of the time on bridge fights
>suddenly realize dying to the environment is literally just my own bad positioning/mistake with timing. skill is actually involved here.
>really don't feel 'dishonored' for falling off a ledge anymore, even if it's a warlord trying to cheese you constantly. (side dodge -> grab -> see ya nerd)

The only times I don't go for an easy kill when I land a successful GB on someone is if they're playing a Knight character. except PK All pagans and weebs go straight to the trash can.

>>169874758
>Shugoki must be nerfed in group fights.
why? half the time shugoki fucks up their own teammates with his swings and teammates are in the way of the command grab and it misses

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>>169874530
Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

>>169874616

>can't come up with a counter-argument, better make a maymay picture

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Is there a way to cover the skin on conq with armor ?

>>169874832
there were like 4 people with counter arguments that he couldnt refute

>>169874754
Because, like roaches, they're everywhere. It seems that they make up over 90% of the playerbase sometimes.

>>169874758
Peacekeeper doesn't really need to be nerfed, what needs to happen is everyone being able to change guards at the same speed (even if you still can't attack after changing guards very fast), right now she's just the gatekeeper that keeps any of the slow characters from ever seeing much play.

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>>169874717
>>169874832
>>169874812

>>169874795
it's the other half of the time when this doesn't happen

you shouldn't be able to be wailed on by his whole team when he grabs you from offscreen if you've made the cardinal mistake of not giving him your undivided attention

>>169874856
actually post something impressive
like beating a warlord or pk or some shit

>>169874851

post them then.

How does Shugoki hold up in 1v1/2v2s?
He seems pretty fun, not sure if I should main him or stick with the Kensai
Is he considered a fair class? I don't want to be hated like all the PKs

>>169874691
>edgy emote pre duel with darkness effect
are orochi players the reapers of for honor?

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>>169874387
>try 4honor cus im told its liek souls
>open game
>nothing like souls
>play for an hour
>bored already
>definitely nothing like souls

This meme has to stop, i wasted good money on Nioh and time on 4honor and neither of them are souls like, what the fuck.

>>169874903
hes great in both

you'll get some hate from shitters who don't understand his mechanics but not nearly as much as you would for playing PK

>>169874906
Reaper is funny though.
Roaches are just sad.

>>169874686
This is such bullshit. I just know if I'm on my last two bars I will bleed out and die. I just lose all will to fight because cunt pisskeeper knows it aswell and keeps distance till my time has come.

Bleed shouldn't be able to kill in vidya, atleast have the opponent a last fighting chance. The bleed feature as it is now will only be abused by bleed pokers.

>>169874838
most of his purple shoulders/arms have chainmail covering the skin. i think only two do not.

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>>169874942
here i got a souls like for u senpai

thank me later

>>169874957
Bleed killing is fine.
Chip damage killing isnt however

>>169875008
chip damage should be a thing and kill, especially considering that your health regens to 1 bar automatically

>>169874957

>bleed is bullshit
>bleed can only do enough damage to kill from a guard break which means you would have died anyways from 1 heavy

pick one

>>169874778
I followed you until
>>suddenly realize dying to the environment is literally just my own bad positioning/mistake with timing. skill is actually involved here.
This is true on most classes but vikings and laws. I know raider and lawbringer need that to win, but warlords and now valks sure do not.

>>169874865
>everyone being able to change guards at the same speed
Why the hell this isn't a thing from the start, and why some classes are crippled with slow stance changing speed is beyond my understanding. What's the point in making some heroes literally unable to keep up with enemy attacks, when they all do about as much damage and have about as much health. Stance change speed is a clear and overwhelming advantage in this game compared to everything else.

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Post your mains

>>169874865
Haha, fuck off. Six frame light attacks. Fuck. Off.

>>169875051
A heavy you can at least parry.

>>169875037
Chip damage IS a thing. There is no reason it should kill. Its meant to punish block and cause pressure, not kill people.

>>169875095
chip damage is not a thing unless you have a feat that only a few characters have, and feats aren't in 1s or 2s

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>>169874985
Ive played em, Waiting for TRC is killing me, nothing fills the darksign in my heart.

I swear the warden's zone attack is harder to block than peacekeeper spam. Wardens are insane.

>>169874903
EXTREMELY matchup dependant for 1v1 after a certain point.

>>169875078
After playing Nobushi almost exclusively, playing characters who can actually change their guard direction quickly is like taking off my weighted training gi. It's ridiculous.

Can't wait for the bug fix with area attack direction indicators too.

>>169875137
>what is roach zone
Both roach' and pc' zones are faster

>>169875120
Chip damage is only not a thing on lights. Heavies all do chip damage and that's without any feat or gear.

>>169875137
It doesn't really do enough damage to warrant all the complaints it gets. It's just a quick little move to break up stalemate and stop people turtling.

>>169875120
Please, play the game some more before talking about things you don't understand.

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>>169875137

Just assume they're always gonna throw it out, and it becomes a lot easier to deal with.

>>169875168
>After playing Nobushi almost exclusively, playing characters who can actually change their guard direction quickly is like taking off my weighted training gi. It's ridiculous.
i started playing conq occasionally the other day after maining shugoki and the difference is utterly insane, i didnt think it was that bad

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>>169874691

Fresh out of Roach removal, here, have a kensai ragequit

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>>169875137
It's not but I feel what you mean. For me it's easier to parry roach zone than his top light.

>>169875137
Keep your block rested on your left side, reaction block everything else. If you block the zone GB for free damage.
>>169875186
Every tool warden has is complained about because it's a meme to hate warden.

>>169874942
What kind of retard would tell you this is anything like souls

I mean nioh isnt but I can see why people would make the mistake if they hadn't played it.

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>>169875120
There is literally Gear that gives bonus Block damage and gear that increases block damage defense.
Are you Lucifer?

>>169875217
But their top light is their fastest attack and can start the vortex. If you're just guarding against the zone, but not top, you risk losing more health. It's a lose-lose situation.

>>169875264
broken, janky third person melee pvp is probably it

and armor

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>>169875137
Warden Zone is punished with a GB if you sniff it out too. So it actually has risk, something Pk wouldn't know.

>>169875137
The difference is when you block a Warden zone attack, he loses over 50% of his stam and is vulnerable to a free Guardbreak counter.

Peacekeeper on the other hand just rolls to a side or keeps mashing light attack at you.

Anyone else getting an error trying to launch the game? Wont connect to the servers so I cant play.

>>169875168
>EXTREMELY matchup dependant for 1v1 after a certain point.
could you explain what you mean by this?

>>169875175
if only heavies do chip then its not a problem, just parry

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>>169875289
>see top light coming
>change block
>go back to resting block on your left side
It's not a hard concept.

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>>169875231
Wait a fucking moment.

You can zone after a parry? Is it safe?

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Alright /fhg/ what do I level next? I did Law in the first few days when matchmaking wasn't shit, then I maxed out warden and now I'm working on valk. I kinda want to do a weeb class but can't into nobushit or shugoki. I still haven't leveled an assassin yet

>>169875389
Not everyone plays an assassin class, like you do.

>>169875375
Any character that can easily break his hyperarmour has a massive advantage against him. Peacekeeper, Orochi, Warden for example, with their double hits and extremely fast attack speed mean you throw that advantage out the door.

He does perform pretty well against warlord and conqueror, the other two most popular strong characters, so that's a huge thing going for him.

>>169875443
Kensei is very good.

>>169875443
>I kinda want to do a weeb class but can't into nobushit or shugoki. I still haven't leveled an assassin yet
Sounds like Orochi to me then

>>169875425
That's a zone after a wallstun after a GB after a parry.
Although I don't play raider, so I wouldn't know if it's confirmed or not.

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>>169875425
Not after a parry, though it is after a gb,

I think he was already going for his quit button because he was expecting the gb/zone follow up, and I just let it fly because I wanted to be disrespectful.

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>>169875473
>>169875483
Its toss up between the two. Is kensei different enough from warden that I wont feel like I'm playing the same class but worse? And is conq any good? I might do him after weeb

>>169875458
I play warden.

Who's brawling right now and wants a teammate?

>>169875175
If lights did chip then assassins would be even more cancer than before

>>169875473
Kensei can't do anything against Conqs.

How many hours does it take to level up one prestige?

>>169875527
To what extent do you abuse Warden Vortex?

Kensei doesn't have any similar gimmick that new players think would be an unstoppable chain. Just solid all around.

>>169875593

maybe like 6 or so

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>play as warden vs. nobushi
>tfw all of nobushi's moves are so slow you can basically parry and block all of it
>her kick is sidesteppable
>tfw i can just sit in her face holding forward while bullying/parrying her and there's absolutl-a-fucking-nothing she can do about it
>she runs out of room for backpedaling
>MEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZIRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>169875469
Thanks for the info anon, I'll play both him and kensai until I can decide which one to get good at

I don't like the sound of PK having an advantage over him though since she's already strong and shows up in almost every duel or brawl

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>>169875503
No. that webm doesn't have wallstun/stagger. The carry also only guarantees a light only. I know that Zone is guaranteed off of a GB, I was just surprised by that dude doing it off of a parry, which made me think that you can't parry the zone either

>>169875516
Ah, okay, I see.

>>169875289

Unless you are playing LB, Raider, Shugoki or whoever the last guy is who can't change blocks quickly enough, you should be able to react to the top light. While it's fast, it's pretty generous on the parry timing.

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>>169875641
I'll use it near cliffs where I can usually get a guard break throw in there but otherwise I usually just go for parry, overhead and zone as my main damage dealers

>>169875719
You're right. It just looked like a wallstun.

>>169875719

I think he may have just not tried to defend

>>169875701
>tfw playing Lawbringer
>tfw she outranges me
>tfw she's faster than me in every way
>tfw all I can hope to do is land a light parry top unblockable and shove meme her into a guard break
>tfw hidden stance actually becomes useful because of how fuck slow an noraeng I am

>got LB to rep 3

yep im giving up, he attacks are so fucking slow anyone can counter with a light.

and lets not forget his awesome combos

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>>169875719
>Thisiswhyialwaysdashintogb.webm

the worst feeling.

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Elves when? I want to play a chocolate skin white hair spear wielding female elf

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>Roses are red
>Violets are blue
>A network error has occurred, returning to main menu

>>169875806
>He doesnt enjoy getting parried for all of his stamina any time he tries to do something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4OlMRH6wQY

>>169875804
>>tfw hidden stance actually becomes useful because of how fuck slow an noraeng I am
For the longest time I had no idea hidden stance even fucking did anything for Nobushis because I always hit them the second they tried going into it

>>169875574
What, non-assassin, can do anything against a good conq?

>>169875953
Raider can actually open a conq up surprisingly well with heavy to tap feints. its chip damage, but I can't begin to tell you how delicious it is to land a side heavy on a shield user because you've got them twitch blocking up.

See>>169875516

>>169875804
Honestly, playing Nobushi against Law is literally a battle of "can I fuck up the timing on Hidden due to how slow Law is". If you do and they chain-drain your stamina, it's scary; but usually, they're just too slow and I feel bad.

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>when you start playing at the level where guard breaks are countered every time unless they're off a failed zone or parry

fuck me bros. now I understand why vortex for wardens exists. literally cannot deal with warlords (and sometimes conqs) otherwise.

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>when you kill a roach in 3 hits

>>169875953
warlord

Has someone recorded all of the frame data of the various moves yet?

>game literally pays out less per win than rainbow six siege
The jewing is going to make me stop.

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>>169874509

>tfw being ganked and still parrying external kensei unblockable meme spam while UI is gone due to stun

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>>169875847
Actually.

Dash gb can be teched too on Raider.

>>169876069
doing new valk's lights right now, will make webm soon

>>169876047
Question: as a Nobushi, when I block a light and then immediately GB, can you counter that? I fought a guy who could GBC almost every GB I did, and parried most of my shit, but he couldn't seem to Counter the post-block GB.

>>169875953
Yes, which is why the only playable classes are Warden, PK, Walord and Conq.

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>"lawbringer sucks"
>"yeah wow lb is garbage"
>"LB is so fucking slow he's terrible"
>"WOW died as LB again, switching to warden"

>mfw i'm getting my shit shoved in as a warden by lawbros who hyper armor shove me and then pitchfork me into no stam town before landing easy hits on me while i'm down
>if they get me in a corner there's literally no escape from this hell

y-yeah lb sucks g-guys.

>>169876190
You can dodge shove tho

>>169876190
>/vg/ and reddit share an opinion and it's wrong
are you surprised

>>169876190
You can dodge the NO SUPRESTES and punish with GB, probably even with shoulderbash

Yes, wardens can actually dash, surprising, no?

>>169876190
You do know you can just dodge those, yeah?
If you dash in any direction you won't be hit by the pointy end, if you're still too retarded to do this just block his attack; if he does anything but overhead light (which does 1/3rd a fucking bar) you can block it.

>>169876053
>when you kill a scrub class that people use

now post something for pk or warlord

>>169876272
Oh and to add onto this; his shove does nothing, it takes off a very minor amount of stamina and he can't chain into anything. Him hyper armoring means fuckall if he's taking damage and not dealing it.

>>169876114
before the patch conq and berserker could get GB'd off a blocked light. Not anymore though.

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>>169875770
Getting GBs after a parry will be a bit trickier due to Kensei's range, but you have a move that will let you dash and grab a bit quicker.

Your light overhead is fast, but not on the same level as Warden.

Your zone is far slower. You can't spit it out for a quick strike, but the game seems to do something to you (maybe hyperarmor) so that you can't be interrupted easily while doing it.

You have dash skills which lets you be more mobile while also letting you chip at a target. You also have your throws which let you go straight to a combo finisher. Note that both the throws and dash skills count as the first chain in a combo.

A lot of Kensei is a trade-off of speed for your range which leads to a bit safer engagements. A lot of the kit is based around flexible combos, unblockable finishers, their respective feints. If this sounds like your cup of tea, go ahead and try the Kensei.

>>169876362
Hrm. Maybe this Orochi just wasn't used to the timing on it/whatever. Seems that the X1 controller isn't super responsive for hidden stance either; makes it frustrating when you should be able to hidden stance their dash but it just doesn't happen. Might be networking issue/latency, though.

It's so fucking frustrating when you hit 2-3 things and nothing goes through.

Why is it that I can reliably CGB every class but the Orochi when they start spamming GB+top heavy?

>>169876110
You shouldn't dash gb after a parry. It makes the GB techable. Against the proper enemies, your character will move towards the enemy if you press GB at the right time without dashing.

I honestly wish Nobushi had some slightly faster attacks/better close-range game. Considering how powerful/fast/easy gap-closers are, it's a bit difficult to actually maintain a distance if people are aggressive, and her lights tend to be a good bit slower than other classes.

>>169876443
it's the gigantic software deadzone

move your stick slowly down and check out how far you have to go before she gets into hidden stance. you almost have to touch the rim. if they let us shrink the deadzone, the game would feel a lot less like complete shit

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>>169876053
>>169876296
Admittedly killing Roaches is about the easiest thing in the game, but god if it doesn't feel good anyway.

like picking on a little fat kid.

>>169876557
Ah... That makes some good sense then. I'm actually pretty pissy that I can't rebind shit. Like do I need emotes on Y? Team commands on LB? I'd much prefer Y for Zone or GB on LB.

>>169876504
Their GB is incredibly fast compared to the rest. This is why people were complaining about being GB's while GBing themselves.

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>>169876296
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but killing roaches is s o much fun

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>>169876190
>he can't deal with lawbringers
>as a fucking warden
>"woah, this toon must be good"

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r8

whats this im hearing about a stealth kensei nerf?

>>169876695
>>169876624
its like killing one of those single sword npcs with low health

its not really fun if they just die

>>169876626
yes deadzone control is way too much to ask for out of a dev who didn't see fit to allow button mapping in a fighting game. it will never happen.

you can do it through the accessibility options. just not the triggers. and it will fuck with your whole system so you'll have to switch it around.

X and L1 is a good swap. I'd say B and R3 is a good swap too.

>>169875953
>What, non-assassin, can do anything against a good conq?

Only one assassin can do something against a conq in general. Both Orochi and Berserker get destroyed by them.

Are the servers down?

>>169876190
You are just shit as a Warden, fighting them as the law can be hell.
Then again, what can't.

>Finally get to rep 3 on my conq
>Open up crates with the 15k steel I've been saving up
>Every helm I pull looks shit
>All the chests look shit
>No shield with the stats I'm looking for
>Didn't get the flail head or handle I wanted

Why does conq have to look like shit? Why does he have a fedora built in to 95% of his helmets?

>>169876776

>he doesn't like the brim

casul

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>>169876113

This should give you an idea. Valk's combo lights are so fast that they make Berserker's deflect bug out and you're stuck doing nothing.
I have an entire fucking folder with these that I'm collecting so I can make a thorough video and bug report to Ubisoft.

>>169876759
R3 is stick down, right?
And by Accessibility, are you referring to Steam Theater settings or the PC thing? Sorry, I used to use a 360 controller but gave it to my sister to use when she left home, so I'm not so used to messing with X1 controllers.

>>169876695

From what I've seen from your various Webms, you're probably one of the better wardens in the general. Since your feint game is on points that are beyond 'good' Wardens.

How have you got your keybinds going? I'm going to be switching over from controller to kb+m, because controller is literally holding me back as Berserker.

>>169876836
Fighting a valk as a Nobushi is so fucking painful. Her attacks are so damn fast and my blocks can't keep up; any sort of latency and her top attack hits, very frustrating. I can win, but damn if it doesn't feel like I'm fighting a losing battle.

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>warlord player guard blocks every attack I do and chips me from full to near death with that free counter attack.
>can't grab because he's a master at cbg
>no unblockable to break through his defenses
>hyper armor of his heavies
>if i manage a parry at the end of the fight his guard block is still nigh impregnable

w-what do i even d-do

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>>169876776
The Cassios set is the aesthetically-upgraded version of the default set (Regulus)

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>>169876069
>>169876113
>>169876836
top lights are 29/31/36
side lights are 27/30/35
quite fast overall

>>169876190
are you retarded? you can dodge everything he does and punish it with a free GB or light hit

>>169876626
i tried to rebind stuff through steam big picture, never worked

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>>169875084

Guys how do I stop getting salty when I lose to scrubs while using a new character?

It gets unbearable especially if my opponent starts shittalking.

>>169876963
cry a lot

>>169876971
Curious as to Nobushi frames, hrm hrm.

>>169876963
You need to feint, my dude.

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>>169875084

>>169876759
If we get rebinds on PC I'm swapping feint with quick chat.

>>169876970
That's the helm I was hoping to find, but no luck so far.

If that's your conq, can I see a full-body shot? You found any nice-looking chest-pieces?

>>169876989
>that chromatic abberation

>>169877003
You need to ignore him or speak in a language he doesn't speak. Like Italian, Spanish or even French.

>>169876904
default, exsept my gb is my mouse side button

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how many of you friends have put money for steel? is champ status worth it?
been playing for 30 hours and i'm at rep 1, with a dece w/l

>>169874472
STEALTH[/spoiler NERFED

>>169877034
nobushi is 36f on top light 1/2
30f on side light 1, 36f on side light 2

>>169877116

You can get champion status pretty much indefinitely just by doing the orders.

>>169877128
Yeah what stealth nerf is this? I'm on console so no patch but I'm hearing people bitch.

>>169877134
How about 3rd Light, the unblockable?
Does the Vipers' Retreat have frame data?
Sorry if these questions are pestering.

>>169877116
>spend more money on a game you brought while you could just run around in circles and get double that amount for free
cuk

>>169877116
Why would any self-respecting person waste their money on steel?

>>169877179
they removed his side into fast top heavy combo

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Is this blackface? Quite the tan.

>>169877145

the thing about orders is that you have to play 4v4 modes, which i absolutely loathe in this game.

>>169877217
Well shit. These devs such ass.

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>>169877072
See >>169876712
Pic related is what I am using. Still want to Leo set for the head/handle, but not going to waste more steel when I can just AFK Farm it

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>get a warlord in 1v1
>throw him off the map twice
>kill him with ease the third time because there's no environmental kills
>"Well your no fun." at the end

Feels good man. Warlord is the most broken class in the game.

>>169877240
yeah i refuse. people say "oh this is cancer", etc to describe shit in games but i really think if i had to play skirmish mode in this game for 8 hours a day or die of cancer i would choose cancer and i'm being serious

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>>169877302
Ledges are actually the most broken class in the game.

>>169877180
3rd light is guaranteed, dunno
I think viper is something like 36f? her zone is around the same speed and that's 36

I'll record and find out for sure if you want

>>169877284
>maxing revenge and not throw distance
It's like you don't even want to have fun

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>>169877182
I have tops 2 hours to play a day (excluding weekends i suppose), so i dont really want to get into the whole grinding orders thing.


>>169877187
More like why would any self-respecting person waste their money on ubisoft, got the game for free and havent spent anything yet.

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>>169877223
so we can assume that no one is black and everyone has EXTREME tans?

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>>169877302
>Warlord being #1 when PK exists
>implying it's not PK >> Warlord > Warden > Conq?/Valk?(post-buff) > Orochi > ~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>>>> Law

>>169877352
all good if you're busy, it's not super necessary as I'm more just curious and less going to actually put this to good use as I'm pretty fucking trash at fighting games.

>>169877284
here's my Nobushi, probably should've switched out to a different guard with Attack over Injury, but again, I'm pretty shit so it IS what it is.

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>>169877302
Ringouts are so fucking fun. Even getting niggered by them is usually pretty funny.

Every time I get knocked back into wallspikes I didn't know was there I laugh.

>>169877421
Yes you choose the level of debilitating skin cancer

>>169877442
Honestly, I don't mind getting killed by wall-spikes/shit if it's a fair thing. But when it's some cheesy fuck warlord/etc spamming throw-shit on me (and giving me a taxi ride across the map) it's pretty frustrating.

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>>169877426
You get revenge super fast in 2 on 1 even with revenge as secondary bonus, so that was the direction I went.
Also, max your shit, niqqa

>>169877426
>Warlord being #1 when PK exists

Considering Warlord shits on PK, as well as literally everyone else in the entire game, there's not really any arguing if Warlord is number one.

>>169877442
I've won two duels tonight because of a CGB on someone trying funny shit on a bridge. Serves them right.

>>169877284
Interesting that you've gone for stamina reduction over defence, do you find that's working well for you?

Also how long does revenge mode last when it's at the minimum?

>>169877507
>Also max your shit
Working on it my dog
I don't afk farm so I'm a bit strapped for steel atm.
APPARENTLY; you only get like 5 more hp for executions with the execution health regen maxed, so I would warn against using it at the current time, whereas Debuff Res helps against bleeds/fire/timers.

>>169877426

I'd rather fight a PK than a Warlord. Warlord has zero bad match ups.

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>>169877545
why is instant karma so good?

>>169877594
Why is there a river of lava running through this random village?

>>169877583
>>169877518
Hrm hrm hrm. They're both quite good, guess I'll wait to see which comes out on top with the post-buff PK.

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you know It'd probably take half a year or, a whole year for ubisoft to finally get this game beyond a defensive fest

I'll probably wait around till then

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What the hell happened?

I don't know why I did a sprint heavy either.

>>169877636
because ashfield is also pretty fucked it

but unlike the samurai or vikings

Ashfield is only an extended part of the knight's territory

they have more land to the south

>>169877636
they shoehorned in some fantasy geological disaster to form the story of why everyone is fighting

i fully expect some creature from the center of the earth to be a playable dlc character by the time they're about ready to pull the plug on the game

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>go into duel after finishing one
>it's the same guy as last time
>pick LB
>it makes me warden

>playing brawl
>me and a fellow knight shitting on these weebs game after game
>they start to git gud and then my partner disconnects
>shitty bot dies immediately and they start ganking me with conq bashes
>start spamming emotes and messages because they finally won a round

Fucking weebs man.

>>169877564
I initially did attack/stam (same as on my PK) and then I immediately realized I actually wanted stam/attack so I could heavy>bash>heavy for twice as long. No, really, with max stam I can do it for like twice as long. I'm also still not really clear on what "defense" does exactly. And yeah, I rather like my current set up.
>>169877581
My thought process at the time was 'why would I want block? All I do is dodge' but I should probably change it.

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Peacekeepers are factually Ashfeld's bicycles!

>>169877686
After playing Assassin's Creed, I find you very optimistic.
I expect 3 games before it's actually fun and balanced.

>>169876684
The animation is also pretty wonky like most of Roach's animations.
I cannot imagine playing against them without the hud
>Cuts you diagonally

how come only nobushi gets the swirling leaves? I want the, on my zerker so bad

>>169877784
nah the team is more like seige

and team that is also working on this game is the one that made Red steel 2

they can do it eventually.

>>169877768
here's a breakdown of stats on armor (not including injury/def gains to revenge), feel free to take what you will from it
>inb4 reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5wouo2/gear_stat_efficiency_less_flashy_editing_more/

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>play a duel
>lose 3:2 to a high rep warden
>play duel again
>3:2 to same guy
>wait 5 minutes
>play duel again
>IT'S THE SAME GUY

>>169875084

I have almost rep1'd them all
I will rep2 them all
Mains are for casuals

>>169877783
Every knight knows that we prefer a pure maiden like Nobushi!

>>169877872
>leddit
>>>/out/

>>169877768
Some guy on reddit did a bunch of testing, here's what he came up with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrDVT51yTM

Attack:
>-4% damage dealt if stat is at minimum
>+20% damage dealt if stat is at maximum

Defense:
>+10% damage taken at minimum
>-24% damage taken if stat is at maximum

Execution health regen:
>Roughly 5 points of health more or less depending wether the stat is min or max
>absurdely low amount of difference, it is negligible

Exhaustion recovery:
>+6% recovery time needed if stat is at minimum
>-44% recovery time if at maximum

Feat cooldown reduction:
>+22% longer cooldowns if at minimum
>-30% time on cooldowns if at maximum

Revenge mode attack:
>+16% damage at minimum
>+96% (!) if at maximum
>base damage buff is +32%

Revenge mode defense:
>+15% damage taken if the stat is at minimum
>-31% damage taken if the stat is at maximum
>base is -11% damage taken

Revenge duration:
>-22% duration at minimum (6,25 secs)
>+40% duration at maximum (11,2 secs)
>base duration is about 8 seconds

Revive speed:
>3,14 secs for a revive if the stat is at minimum
>2,12 secs if the stat is at maximum
>base is 3,03 secs

Stamina cost reduction:
>Roughly 25% to 30% reduction at maximum
>having the stat at minimum makes virtually no difference

Stamina regen:
>~50% faster regen rate at maximum
>having the stat at minimum makes virtually no difference

Okay, so I now have the big buff raider man at rep 3, along with the conqueror.

Now what should I level? Time to roll the dice.

1: Orochi
2: Kensei
3: Lawbringer
4: Warlord
5: Berserker
6: Warden

Doubles and you get to pick the gender.

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>>169877909
YAMERO

>>169877940
It doesn't matter because you'll get bored and go back to raider.

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>>169877752

Alright what the fuck is wrong with this game. Same thing almost happened, I selected LB, and it tried to give me Warden. FIVE TIMES. I select LB, it tries to make me confirm on Warden.

What the fuck is going on?

>>169877940
Rolling for Lawman

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>>169877956
What did he mean by this?

Also, what did the game mean by this?

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>>169878006
It means [banig]

>>169877643

It's still Warlord. Warlord can deal with the offense that PK brings, but she can't handle taking damage, which he can bring for free without risk.

>>169877986
Game's trying to stop you from hurting

>>169877980
nope, sorry, I've been infected with the Jinjyo No shoubo.

>>169877986
It's like the game is trying to tell you something, hmm

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>>169878036
hmmmmm

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2v2 mode rage will never stop being amazing

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>>169878116
for
(you)

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>>169878134
I know, I just started playing it regularly as Warlord.

>>169877882
You should play brawls with me and you'll have a warden every match.

>>169878196
kys
>le un damageable man of free confirms and 50/50s

>>169877882
>heard you were talking shit about peacekeeper

>>169877909

>shitting on information
>caring where it's posted

Let me guess, letting the Christian zealots into the Library of Alexandria was a good thing too, right?

>>169877924
Interesting, thanks.

>>169877924
>Revenge mode defense:
>+15% damage taken if the stat is at minimum
>-31% damage taken if the stat is at maximum
>base is -11% damage taken

This is weird, dev on the Warrior's Den stream said, Revenge Defense is the amount of shield you get after activating Revenge.
https://youtu.be/ywiqxjE9rQI?t=49m25s

>>169878315
Warlord isn't as strong in 2v2 as he is in 1v1. Still good of course but not automatic #1.

ps about to just start dropping from a match if im playing shit like raider and get thrown against a peacekeeper. like not evne the winrate just a complete zero skill waste of my time.

why does this game choose a different character from what i selected?

what a shitty bug

>>169878468
You move your mouse too quickly is my guess so it selects something else.

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Which is a better main orochi or kensai? I have 2 weeks before going back to university and I want to play the shit out of this game and get really good with one guy

which one is more respectable too? I hear a lot of talk about "roaches" but as far as I can tell they aren't overpowered or anything.. but im still new so i mostly fight retards

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!! Reminder to be nice and friendly in chat to counter all the puberal negativity !!

=== OFFICIAL TIER LIST === 01 MARCH ===
This list is based on high-level play. Feel free to suggest improvements, but please make sure you know what you're talking about.

SS
>Warlord

S
>Peacekeeper

A+
>Conqueror
>Warden

A
>Shugoki

B
>Orochi
>Nobushi
>Valkyrie*

C
>Kensei**

D
>Berserker

F+
>Raider

F
>Lawbringer

* = Recently buffed so still finding its place, leaning towards A.
** = With the recent stealth nerf and the tech window increase, Kensei is looking more like C-, however certain players such as Alphastrike6 are demonstrating he is much more viable as you utilise more of his arsenal in creative ways.

This list:
>is based around 1v1s.
>doesn't take any bugs into consideration.
>doesn't take gear into consideration.

>>169878543
Kensei is most honorable and satisfying.
Roach is annoying but still strong.

Conquerer with third stage charge attack that's unblockable and unparriable when.

>Peace keeper with a tiny dagger parrying a fucking morning star.

>>169878524
>my guess
Please just stop. I don't want a guess from some 4chan pleb.

>>169878607

I thought GB didn't even change except for the fact that getting GBd while GBing is now techable

>>169878683
>why
>I don't want a guess
well keep it to yourself then and keep selecting the wrong char duh

>>169878607
for some reason, even though i know warlords are infinitely better, peacekeepers make me the fucking angriest.

>>169878607
probably should move nobushi below valk
and move shugoki into B or move all of B into A
and move conq to S

Which classes have the best footsies?

>>169878607
>With the recent stealth nerf and the tech window increase, Kensei is looking more like C-
do you mind explaining this in more detail?
I'm the guy looking to decide between Kensei and Orochi >>169878543
and this seems like something I should know

>>169878738
>and move conq to S
Nah

>>169878607
>stealth nerf
What stealth nerf ?

>>169878782
conq can't be beat by anything that is not a warlord
so why not?

>>169878728
Didnt I say i didnt want a guess from a 4chan pleb?
Shoo. go away.

>>169878810
I beat them all the time, what is your problem with them? You easyily dodge their bash

>>169878713
it ends up affecting kensei a bit more than other heroes because of his heavy dependence on gbs due to lack of openers and gb being a potential unblockable mixup
>>169878738
>probably should move nobushi below valk
valk isn't accurate, i agree but just wanna see her in action a bit more
>and move shugoki into B or move all of B into A
shugoki is A
>and move conq to S
i'm considering it but the fact that peacekeeper can punish shield bash with her light and does as well as him in any matchup that isn't warlord i think peacekeeper does better across the board
>>169878770
>>169878797
kensei lacks good openers and he had a dash cancel into chain nerfed which was a "decent" opener

>>169876081
But the prices of cosmetics are different, weapon skins in siege cost 2.5k to like 10k i think, not including universal skins, ornaments in this are 1-3k and the outfits are like 1.5-15k, seems reasonable desu

>>169878851
But I'm not guessing anything anymore

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did i get gud my dudes

>>169878641
>everyone parrying shugokis fat man hits and shrugging it off like it was nothing

>>169878912
no you just leave matches whenever you lose

>>169878912
For LB standards yes but why did you smear dirt over your pretty golden armor?

>>169878881
>dash cancel into chain
you mean helmsplitter was nerfed ? I don't follow what you're talking about, except if you're talking about the dashing gb.

>>169878925
Parrying should just cost a massive amount of stamina that scales with the damage the hit would have done.

>>169878976
you must not know it then, i think there's a post on reddit about it if you want to read up about it

>>169878879
you clearly don't know half the things conq can do

he is completely immune to any damage with full block
and i mean anything
even shoulder/headbut
only downside to him is stamina cost , that he can just sprint away and regen, and not being able to finish enemies

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>hear that there's a lot of new looks on stuff after reputation 7
>spend steel on boxes when rep 7
>still the same shit

>>169878912
Why is that armour covered in soot

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>Conq main
>everyone is nothing but complaints

I love it.

>>169878985
>How to make the game even more defensive so you don't waste stamina to keep the option of parrying and comboing after it

>>169879013
Do you have a link please ? I don't know how this site works

>>169879034
>Conq using full block ever
That eats way too much stamina and not everyone gives you the time to recover. Full block is also pretty slow on the startup

>>169878965
so they cant see me at night

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another solution for parrying is making it more a part of a defensive option then direction + strong attack

and it has its own animation that if you guess wrong, its punishable


this is what soul calibur does

>>169879097
It is usefull if you eat nobukick/wardenbash/headbut 'cause it blocks the followup that is supposed to be guaranteed.

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I can't decide what I want to main.

>>169879034
you're supposed to feign to bait full block then gb
>>169879079
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5wwp9x/kensei_stealth_nerf/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=CompetitiveForHonor
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5wwsbs/i_dont_know_why_the_kensei_nerf_isnt_being_talked/
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5wwtgy/to_all_you_kensei_mains_out_there/
dont know which one explains it but these all talk about it

>>169879097
he does not need the time to recover
you can use it imediatly after being hit by headbutt/shoulder

>>169879209
Thank you dude

>>169879069
im nightbringer japs cant see in the night, the eyes are to small

>>169879034
>he is completely immune to any damage with full block
Ég ríf ykkur í bita
Ég ríf ykkur í bita!!
Ég ríf ykkur í bita!!!!!!!!!!!

>Play conq until rep 3
>Rarely see any salt, everyone is either silent or polite
>Play Shugoki for 2 hours
>Salt everywhere, people getting angry before the duel even starts
I'm not even cheesing environmental kills, just using parry -> GB and trading with hyperarmour. What is it about the big boy that makes people so mad?

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uhhh

are the servers down?

>>169879162
>and it has its own animation that if you guess wrong, its punishable
For Honor has that too
Its called getting hit while your character tries to do a heavy attack

>>169879383
They have never dealt with hyper armor before

>>169879427
it shouldnt be an attack at all

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>>169879427
>He doesnt OS his parries

>>169879439
>Hit a Shugoki ressing with Nobu's light twice
>doesn't cancel the res
that's why I get annoyed with him, but I don't really bother complaining in chat about it

>>169876047
>off a failed zone
Wait, you mean a blocked zone opens the enemy for an untechable GB?

>>169879326

i don't know why it's consistently written as "Þita" when it's "bitar", even in old norse. Þita would be pronounced thita.

>>169879586
Like I know, I just quickly looked this up on red.it

>>169877101
>my gb is my mouse side button
That's literally cheating.

>>169879692
Not any more cheating than having it on L1 on a controller, my finger is always ready

so has anyone been banned for afk farming Player vs AI dominion?

i can't bother doing another character to rep 3 by duels/brawls and player vs player 4's are cancer until you got gear

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>>169877924
>Stamina cost reduction:
>>Roughly 25% to 30% reduction at maximum
>>having the stat at minimum makes virtually no difference
Bullshit, with maxed out you can do 2.5 zone attacks and with min you cant do 2.

How fast are the Shugoki lights? Can you use them to footsie against anyone good?

>>169879920
They are literally roach tier fast

>>169879896
In the linked video he spams light attacks with valk until he runs out
>Min gear = 10
>No gear = 10
>Max gear = 14

>>169880018
Dont rly care about light spam desu senpai, i feint after first hit of zone attack and then go for light/gb.

So, I just got Rep 7 with Berserker.
Who should I rep up next?

>>169879045
I think you got memed, son

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>just fought a warden that did nothing but turtle and vortex

literally
100%
uncounterable
garbage

>>169880096
berserker

Is there a way to reacquire low level gear?
I'm fucking sick of people calling gearscore every time I destroy them when I can take down gs108 retards with my level 18 Raider.

Gearscore is fucking shit and imbalanced as fuck but it's the only way to get the cool skins.

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>>169880147
haha just side dash attack bro
Oh you don't have one?

>>169879896
>>169880018
I'm pretty sure you should just need a tiny bonus to do three zone attacks (or two and a half depending on if your done makes multiple deductions). Zone attacks always take precisely half your base stamina. Reduce that by a teeny tiny bit, and you'll take less than half your stamina. If you do two zone attacks which each take less than half your stamina, you'll have consumed less than a whole bar of stamina, and if you haven't consumed a whole bar of stamina, then that directly implies you have some leftover to attack with.

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Rate my new shield

Not sure if I should change the background pattern to have more blue and less red. Thoughts?

>>169878421
I wish there was a way to just automatically change your character to warlord whenever your opponent picks peacekeeper.

>hyper armour blocks unblockables

what complete fucking bullshit

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>>169880147
>what is rolling backwards and feints

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>just dodge attack they said
>just side-step they said

I'M TRYING MOM
it's a joke, i know you can dodge attack, silly

>playing against some peaceshitter
>parry, guardbreak and generally outplay them
>get overconfident and they immediately take off half my health and start the light spam til I die

Well shit.

>>169880315
>feints
can't you just r1 him?

>>169880315
they don't parry because they don't need to
rolling backwards does nothing because he will just vortex again

sounds like you're fighting in the low skill section

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>>169880315
>he thinks those work
come on man

>when people with 100 item level shit talk people with 30 and under item level

Why?

>>169880420
?

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>>169880215

>>169880315
>rolling deals damage and prevents him from using the vortex ever again

since when??!

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>>169880413
side dash attacks beat the shoulder outright, he has to read it and parry the attack in order to keep the combo going, webm related

>>169880446
I personally haven't figured out a 100% counter to the backroll, since zone whiffs more often than not