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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62vG0BIzpTE

>Live Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753535162

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
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https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Permalink
https://owg.pleb.pl

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Fareeha.
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How do I git gud at Tracer? Does practicing tracking shots in training mode actually help in real play?
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Sombra will be meta in a week from now. Screencap this
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>>169863114
And both teams will have one.
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>tfw just got placed 2378
Give me my goddamned diamond already reeee
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Reminder that the game is undeniably shit now and the only people still playing are the shitters who aren't forced to play 7 games a week to keep their rank even though the game is in its worst state since launch.
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>>169863097
Bastion has been pretty tough to deal with, but I don't know if I would call him OP. He definitely is no longer trash tier. I think most people are making judgement way too early.

Seems weird, I thought they wanted to make him a tank killer, he seems to have just been given a straight upgrade.
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>>169863276
HOL UP was worse than this
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Thinking Bastion is OP is hilariously ironic to me as it’s an extremely dogmatic combination of pseudoscience and a shitty application of poorly grasped Darwinian ideas applied to social events from people who are generally deeply anti religious. You’d have to really inundate yourself in an obscure echo chamber though to think it has leverage in the 21st century though because the general discourse is dominated by similarly quasi religious beliefs in the free market as valuable in and of itself

You're all bad
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HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL FUCKING BASTION I'M TIRED OF DYING TO THIS STUPID ROBO
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Is there a more influential trio than season 4 mercy, bastion and rein?
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>no interesting blue posts today

But with the forums being 95% about Bastion I guess all they could say is they're keeping an eye on the situation or some shit like that.
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>>169863336
Pick Roadhog, shoot Rein's shield until it breaks, hook and kill him. That's the best I can give you.
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>>169863114
What makes you say that? Bastion Buff? I still don't think she has the right kit to counter him completely.
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>>169863307
You can stop posting this now.
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So I was wondering why Sombra isn't in the meta right now. She completely shuts down Bastion if she manages to hack her, though that's in and of itself since you have to go through 3 tanks to get to Bastion.
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>>169863441
>She completely shuts down Bastion if she manages to hack her
She has never done this.

ESPECIALLY now that he's gotten buffed

Where did this dumb ass meme come from
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Cutest and best pairing
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>>169863398
Yeah shame really. Most people would probably jump on the blue post and complain about Bastion being OP.

Kind of a shame that once you have a community of this size, any developer comments are taken way out of proportion.

I like the blue posts, and whenever they appear I will try and say something nice so that we can get more in the future.
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>S76 damgae was buffed a couple of patches ago
>Bastion has decreased spread in Recon mode
>Sombra's spread remain unchanged
Nice game you got here.
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>Placements
>3 throwers (all abandoned after iceawlling in spawn repeatedly)
>Actual games in season
>3 games in and every single one of them has had an abandoner or someone who was chucking teles off cliffs
blizzard
what the fuck
Why the absolute christ is avoid player not a thing anymore? Why don't people actually ever get banned for shit like this? When people do get banned, why doesn't it roll back the SR from the (obviously) thrown games?
It's not even only on my team the other teams have had it bad too, although it seems like it's not as frequent. Why are there suddenly so many throwers this season?
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>>169863552
The main problem with Bastion right now is his heal since he can heal through almost anyones damage. If you take that away he's just Soldier 76 without a biotic field.
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>>169863558
>the one eating isn't Mei
Who the fuck drew this.
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>>169863756

literally me
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>>169863585
They might break the game but they'll never break its porn.
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>mfw climbing ranks as mercy
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>be 2.7k last season b4 i got bored of OW
>come back because a friend wanted to play
>new season get 1.7k rating

this is the most fun i've had in ages, don't matter who i pick its a good fun game.
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Why is it so hot today?
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>added a Chinese New Year
>no St. Valentines event
>No St. Patricks event
>No Easter event

Its like they want their game to be cursed by Jesus. Well, it was. Enjoy!
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why do all tracers decide they want to take on a tank?
every time I'm roadhog some tracer decides they want to spend forever trying to harass me

it makes no sense for her to be fighting that 1v1 when one hook and she's dead
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>Only need another win for loot box
>Game begins putting me in shit teams

Every week without fail.
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>>169863097
I wonder if they are ever going to release another flying hero.

Pharah is the only character who can stay in the air for a long time on her own, considering how some maps have enough open space to allow her to do that, why give those maps that design for only one character?
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>>169863934
>admitting you are a shitter
I cbfd explaining it to you
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>>169863112
Git gud at osu.
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>>169863097
Could be getting more lines soon. Seems like several of the VAs are talking about recording stuff so maybe it's something big.
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>>169864082
>skin with blue eyes
>has the skin tone of a corpse
Goddamn it, brown girls with blue eyes are the best ones.
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>>169863864
>Stomping shitters is fun
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I love Hana.
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>>169864143
Enjoy another hero teaser in the next couple days
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>>169864143
You just got the server browser, wait two more weeks and we might stop teasing the new hero and finally put it on the ptr.
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>>169864143
You just got your new content Tuesday with the amazing server browser and the great balance changes!
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I won 7/3 placements games and stomped hard but i get placed 100 sr above last season final? explain plz
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Faslger-1453
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>>169864143
Jesus christ that picture.

But as for new content, most likely next week on the ptr we will have the 24th hero.

Oh and we will probably have another twitter tease tomorrow. What great lore.
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>tfw no new skins for Amélie but stoves are just fine
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>>169864143
Excuse me the ability to make your very own "DIAPERFUR RP [18+]" server is enough content for the year
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Do you think some of this is down to people just not being used to handling Bastion any more? It reminds me of beta.
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>>169864143
But you just got a delicious new meta that will in no way give you cancer
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>>169864372
I wish PS4 had named servers just so I could know who to grief. Shit takes me back to when Minecraft was cool.
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>>169864143
Is that Efi?

>>169863441
>hacks Bastion
>then dies
>he left clicks heads for 6 seconds
Great contribution. Sure, EMP is great with coordination but you still have to weigh it against her downsides as a whole.
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>>169864416
>implying lone bastion is the problem
sure, you can hook him or sleep him, but if it's a faggy protect the turret comp we're back to square one
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>>169864464
That's going to come soon, Jeff made a blue post about it, something to do with getting permission from Sony or some shit like that.
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>>169864339
One of these days
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>start placements
>loss
fuck
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>>169864527
A protect the turret comp takes up at least half the team and falls apart as soon as Rein's shield goes down.
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>>169864686
I've noticed more people picking pharah to bump Rein out of the way and kill the support.
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>>169863734
Cold is low energy. Hot is high energy. Junkrat needs more fuel than Mei. Do you even symbolism?
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>>169864142
What about that didn't you understand sweatie :)
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>>169864686
This is gunna branch into an infinite circle of hypothetical. The point is bastion is fucked now
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>>169863607
It's not a thing anymore because top streamers got all ass mad that no one wanted to get rolled by them.
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>>169864825
>infinite circle of hypothetical
What are you talking about? There's nothing hypothetical about it. Bastion's a little tougher but the ways to stop him haven't changed, it just takes a few more seconds.
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Just happened a-fucking-gain
someone that only plays widow no matter the situation, calls us trash, and then the enemy team supports the fact that they were good even though our soldier was getting twice as much everything as she was
I don't usually tilt but I'm currently descending into maximum overtilt because my SR has dropped 600 points due to all these fucking throwers

If I continue having throwers this often and I hit ELO hell then I'm going to literally uninstall because this is just fucking awful
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>>169864141
how sad will you be when you learn that eventually every human on the planet will have light brown skin, black hair and brown eyes

muh exotics are endangered
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>>169862989
Did Blizzard fuck over placements AGAIN?

Get this shit
Main Mccree
Accuracy 60% average
Average damage 19k
Average KD 42.86 to 7.66
Winrate after my 10 placements?
90%
Held a card every game
Had POG at least 7 of the 10 games

Where was I fucking placed? SILVER

I WAS FUCKING MASTER LAST SEASON AND PLACED AS DIAMOND. WHAT
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>>169864993
League of Legends babies dictate what happens now.

If something got buffed = broken
If it got nerfed = useless

There is no such thing as counterplay or teamwork or not playing your single main you instapick every game even if it isn't effective. All you can do is whine at Blizzard to nerf it.
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>>169865028
what rating is elo hell?
Everyone in bronze is trash and 1 good person can control the game
Everyone in Silver is trash and 1 good person can control the game
Everyone in Gold is trash and 1 good person can control the game

So i can only assume plat is the tench?
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>>169865105
>lying this much on the internet
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>>169865086
Chinks will dominate the planet.
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what the fuck is the point of seasons if it's gonna be rigged and place you +-200 SR of where you left off regardless of performance in placements?
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>last season
>go 7-3, play well, expect to get a 100 or so SR above where i finished in S2
>get like 10 above
>oh okay i guess placement matches dont mean shit
>this season
>play extremely well (no, really), teams have little coordination, many players have an IQ of 70 (nigga had tactical visor on, was dying to the Pharah, and WOULDNT LOOK UP)
>3-7
>oh okay guess it wont do much
>2297
>200 SR from below last season, 400 from last season's high
Oh I am fucking PISSED
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>>169865185
chinks already have black hair and brown eyes

why wouldn't they also turn brown through race mixing?
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>>169865164
Believe whatever makes you happy shitter, I personally want to murder the faggot who fucked placement with this shit ass algorithm
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>>169864143
>tfw too intelligent to eat
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>>169865105
>Average KD 42.86
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>>169865123
The second you go below 2400, nobody will listen to anybody else anymore and all the folks deranking are passing through. You may be able to control the game if you're fantastic but once you pass like 2600 your thrower count exponentially decreases and people actually try to make comps.
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>>169864993
>it hasn't changed
man what the fuck are you on about? He's not a little tougher he can sit through hanzo's entire ult without help.

>>169865114
I didn't have a problem with it because it's a buff - it was too much, one or two of those changes would be fine but fuck me. Why is it that there's a group of people incapable of recognizing that something is too powerful on it's own? Ana's fine just have two people that way when you get slept your friend can handle her. I take this bait every time, but god if it doesn't drive me nuts.
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>>169865105
People have been saying that is the case that being said

I was 2.7k peak and feel to 2.3k I got placed as 1700, and havnt lost a game since.
My friend was 2.3k peak played the same placements as me minus 1 game and got 2.7k this season.

I lost 600 he gained 500.

So who knows, look on the bright side, if you really were master you wont lose a game until atleast plat.
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>>169864791
>think that bag on Junkrat's belt is for carrying spare parts or an emergency toolkit
>it's actually full of snacks
c-cute
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Oh look. Every time I DON'T instalock bastion, nobody else plays him, enemy team always has one and my team will simply refuse to deal with their bastion in any way at all.

What a wonderful time to be a quick play player.
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>>169865263
Because they are not as dumb as modern white pussies who let their countries get flooded with muslims.
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>>169865383
Take advantage of the hog buff to shit on him
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>>169864658
>that smile of satisfaction while she pins you down
please, my dick can only take so much
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>>169865105
>Had POG at least 7 of the 10 games
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>>169865315
This is true

I started last season in silver and ended in diamond. The tone of games changed somewhere around 2700 and people started trying harder, though there was still shit like hanzo pickers and throwers and stuff the games became a lot more teamplay focused even if it was just clumsy pushes and dives. Also you were more likely to get a 2/2/2 comp at least and not 1 tank and 1 healer like in lower ranks.
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>>169865389
muslims aren't black anon
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>>169865495
No, they are brown.
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>>169865383
>trying in Quick Play
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>>169865464
Holy shit, the guy you responded to here
I was just in another game with a dualqueue leaver. I lost 100 SR for that loss because "loss streak". Just passed below 2450 down from 3100
blizz
fix
your
shit
I should NOT be penalized for leavers. I don't care if "the alternative is worse", just make it so that people grouped with the leavers get a regular loss and so that nobody else on the team loses SR. It's not that hard.
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>>169865549
no they aren't

and brown is a combination of white washing black.
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>>169865648
>no they aren't
Yes they are.

>and brown is a combination of white washing black.
No it's not, if it was, they would have black features like thicker lips or their skull structure.
Their defining features are thicker eyebrows, maybe an unibrow, tan skin and black hair.
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>>169865614
I still think the leaver should lose the equivalent of their other teammates combined SR loss. The other teammates lose nothing.
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"And in my lonely eyes, I see myself in eloquent strides"
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>tfw this new mercy buff
It's fantastic stuff, it's possible to solo heal (high gold-low plat is fun :)))))))))))))) a team without dying when you use your rez now
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>>169865362
Did you play as support?
Are they still getting lower sr compared to dps?
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>>169862989

so is it legitimately bastion meta now? lol
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>>169865790
I feel like bullying a frog today
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>>169865923
Yes. There are people on this very general advocating 'just coordinated multiple ults to deal with him, it's fine'
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>>169865356
>>it hasn't changed
If you're going to quote me, then actually quote me, faggot. I didn't say "it hasn't changed" I said "the ways to stop him haven't changed."
I sure hope you weren't blowing ults to kill a turret Bastion, before or after the patch.

>Why is it that there's a group of people incapable of recognizing that something is too powerful on it's own?
I never disagreed about Blizzard's overreacting buffercoaster being a problem, I'm disagreeing that nuBastion breaks everything.
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>>169866017
People did that to break a point before, why is it different now?
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>>169865913
Played every roll over the placements as did he.
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why is she so perfect
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>>169866121

>Needing to use multiple ults to kill a single character.

Bastion, in turret form, can live through Hanzo, Genji and Reaper ults if he heals.

Someone made a post of everything he can survive.

Bastion is broken as hell and it's legitimately going to kill the game.
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>>169866121

because you're not breaking anything, you're making bastion move a bit then repair lmao

take the easiest hero, make it so his common counters dont work any more (he will straight up kill pharah and genji unless the pharah has insane range which wont happen on most maps) and watch the meta devolve into bastion or lose
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>>169865923
>scrub character that everyone has trouble with for the first 10 hours of the game
>said scrub character gets buffed
>oh no he doesnt die in 2 seconds now
>blizzard pls nerf
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>>169866219
I dont think he needs to heal through Reaper ult
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>>169866248
It's happening again!
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>>169866219
Things Bastion can survive (not factoring in Nanoboost):

Reaper’s entire ultimate.
Reaper’s entire 8 shot clip (if Bastion makes sure to heal slightly before he shoots, to keep his health in armor).
Pharah’s entire rocket clip.
Torbjorn’s Level 2 Turret can NEVER kill Bastion in Sentry mode. (He can literally tank it forever and never die by healing periodically. Tanked it for an entire minute and was at full 300 HP at the end.)
Torbjorn’s Molten Core Turret (until healing runs out, at which point Bastion can turn and kill it).
Symmetra’s laser does literally zero damage until healing runs out.
6 Symmetra turrets.
Genji’s entire ultimate from start to finish if Genji only attacks Bastion (he only loses about a third HP).
Soldier’s entire clip + rockets.
Tracer’s bullets can literally be tanked forever until healing runs out.
Tracer’s ultimate.
McCree’s ultimate, if he fires it right as the circle disappears (leaves Bastion with 60HP).
Zarya at 100 charge firing her entire laser clip.
Junkrat’s entire clip.
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>>169866219
Besides Hanzo he could already survive Genji and Reaper ults if he just killed them.
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>>169865724
Well if you didn't penalize anyone on the team of the leaver then if you're in a group you could theoretically have someone leave just to bounce up your SR on average

Also slamming the shit out of leavers too hard isn't fair. I've left games a few times from my internet dying.
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>>169866194
She just is.
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>>169866083
>quote
>implying it wasn't just giving you a reference point for what I was responding to
You know what I mean - it's busted and needs attention. You're disagreeing with a strawman of my argument. It needs a fix; it's too much. The ults point is to demonstrate an issue - it takes multiple to drop him now, that is a problem. He no longer has really clear counters - he can handle any of the damage dealers (even sombra knocking him out isn't super rough), he can survive ults, he does enough damage to make ana and hog situational counters - It IS too much.
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>/owg/ thinks this is fine.

https://clips.twitch tv/ConfidentSuspiciousMilkAMPTropPunch
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If only there was a fast charging ultimate that could instantly break barriers, shields and forced Bastion into recon where he has no damage reduction...
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>>169866338
>Tracer’s bullets can literally be tanked forever until healing runs out. found that one out the hard way, dodged his shit for 20secs only for him to heal the whole time while hitting me with his spread.

Cunts an AA- 12 made from an alloy of wolverines bones and some sort of mystical space dwarf metal
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I'm going to make some webms of me solo killing Bastion as Sombra. My plays tv wasn't running tonight unfortunately, but I'm sure it'll happen a lot this season.
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>>169866441
https://vid.me/9kRT
It's literally ok when i do it!
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>>169863857
>mfw keep getting intentional throwers at plat
>mfw teams frequently ignore me and then whine when I'm dead
I can't do this
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>>169866248

>o look its bastion let me pick genji
>o crap i literally CANNOT kill him any more
>o shit no one in the fucking game can actually kill him

this is ok to u? bastion main? cant wait for every pro match to be bastion on defense vs bastion on offense
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Is there anything wrong with playing support (Zen, Ana and Mercy) in most of my comp matches? Most of the time dps gets instalocked and I'm afraid of burdening my team if I pick dps, and tanks are kinda boring. Plat here.
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>>169866792
No, go nuts.
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>>169866512

>Just play the hero that requires the most team coordination to be remotely useful
>to kill this monster robot that 1v1's everyone and even without healing can kill you if they know how to aim when you try to fight recon mode

wow ur a genius
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>>169866792
stop being a self conscious spook and play what you want to play and have fun, even if it means your team is upset.

t. stirner
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>>169864289
You performed better in those matches
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>won 8/10 placement matches, one of them being a 5v6 in the second half
>Ended up in 2981
>won one more game and got diamond

How did your placements go, /owg/?
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>>169866792
nothing at all, you're being a good guy, but eventually you'll find a fun dps you'll like to play and insta-lock because playing support makes comp even more of a coin toss than it already is. only so much you can do to support a shit team with garbage dps

believe in yourself. take it into your own hands. turn off auto-join team chat
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>he spams "its just qp" in chat to validate picking Hanzo/Genji/Widow and NOT having a single gold medal
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>>169866861
It's pressing Q somewhere near him and his buddies, not fucking solo spec ops
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>>169866924
went 5-4-1, placed 3650, went maximum overtilt from being placed so low, fell out of masters, now turbo autist climbing

back to 3800 so far
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>>169866771
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>>169866924
>How did your placements go, /owg/?
>playing comp during the second Omnic Crisis

I tend to get the teams who run one-by-one into the woodchipper even before Bastion was meta, why would I risk getting placed in low gold when he's mowing down everything in every game?
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>>169866924
throwers, leavers and trollers galore. literal children that set up as bastion outside the left door of route 66 and predictably whine over voice chat. 3 wins, 1 draw, 5 potg, 1956 SR. got gold the next match
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>>169866861
>to kill this monster robot that 1v1's everyone

>1v1ing
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>>169866861
>right click
>shoot
>press e if you're low

wow
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>>169866857
>>169866869
>>169866975
Thanks for the encouragement. I'll do you guys proud!
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>>169866997
it's quick play why the fuck do you care

if you want real matches play comp and get above masters
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>>169866248
Yep, this is definitely not an understatement of what's happened at all
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>>169866338
>*If noone else also shoots him at the same time.

Fixed that for you.

Seriously even that webm of him surviving the Hanzo ult would never happen like that if he were in actual line of site of the enemy team, just one regular shot from hanzo would be enough to take out Bastion.
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>>169867152
>not embracing the new robot overlords

If I had a bastion on my team I'd go D.va and someone else would go rein and we'd take turns shielding him

If there was a bastion on the other team I'd often go roadhog and try to hook the bastion when there's downtime on the shields that are protecting him.

Both strats worked fairly well. Also surprisingly i had more than a few games where there wasn't a bastion on either team
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>>169866997
>pick widow in comp
>have three gold medals when we also have a 76
>teammate proceeds to throw because of my pick

Loving every laugh
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>>169866441
No I think he's a retard who let at least three other kills get away because he wanted to swing at the Bastion.
No different than a nano Genji who starts his ult by swinging at a Hog.
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>>169867176

congrats you annoyed the bastion for 3-4 seconds
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>>169866924
My placements were okay. It was the matches after that are bad. I don't remember low gold players being this shit
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>>169866924
Won 5/5 and ended up with 2780.

First time doing comp and at first i thought i'd fucked up and ended up in silver but turns out i was platinum.
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>>169867321
>no character can destroy bastion by themselves, nobody, not even reaper ult
>you always have to focus fire him with at least 2 or 3 people

yeah totally fair
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>>169867053
What was your s3 final?
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>>169867375

actually, it the hog will die in 3 swipes through healing so... pretty big difference
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>>169867482
>no character can destroy bastion by themselves
Roadhog exists.


>inb4 "But shields!" without realizing the irony
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>>169867482
>not even reaper ult
You say that as if Reaper ult does a lot of damage.
>nobody can destroy bastion by themselves
I've still been killing him a-plenty with Zen.
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So is all this Bastion whining everywhere just the standard "new change upsets everybody before they get used to it" or are there serious balance problems with him?
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>>169867482
>tfw I've killed a Bastion by myself
Feels pretty good
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>>169866924
>3w/7l
>4040
>ended at 4385 last season
could've been worse i guess
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>>169867724
Personally, I think he's a bit too good right now. if he has any sort of help he's nigh unkillable. There's definitely ways to play around him though.

He needs to be toned down just a little bit
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>>169867724
>are there serious balance problems with him

Unless you have a team built around countering him, he's going to survive and kill all attacks. And most teams will build around protecting bastion while he kills people.

Plus the fact that he doesn't take little to no damage against any of the offensive-class ults (soldier, reaper, tracer) with turret-mode + M2 make him pretty oppressive.
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>>169867724
Its just shit players whining. His op mode is now recon and no one talks about it ergo they are shitters.
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>>169867724
Bastion with even an ounce of healing is virtually invincible unless your team goes full on 6v1 on him.
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>>169867724
It's new change whining. Bastion's been out of the meta so long that people forgot how to deal with him.

His healing makes him strong, but everyone forgets that he can't actually heal and shoot at the same time like 76, and his ult actually got nerfed pretty hard since it doesn't give you extra armour anymore.

No more panic tank, only ambush tank now.
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>>169867195
I want to practice for Comp, which is the point of qp, if you want to be an pro genji so you can ERP with your fuccboi hanzo all game, go in a fucking custom game or no limits where you can jerk yourselves off.
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>>169867541
That's not remotely true.
Nanoblade does 180 a hit at 1 hit per second. Hog can easily outheal that briefly, if he doesn't just hook and kill the Genji. It takes nearly the entire ult to kill a Hog. point being that even if you kill him it's basically a waste of two ults when you could have chopped through all the supports and squishy DPSes first.

>>169867724
I feel they definitely went overboard, but he didn't remotely break the game. He's basically another Hog or Symmetra now - either you're comfortable playing against him and it's fine, or you aren't and it's the end of the world.
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Is it just me or would some hud customisation be great? I'm not asking for a different UI, just the option to change the positions of some stuff. I fucking hate how my hp n shit are in the corners of my screen. I've had a glimpse of how shit could be with zayra's energy counter :(
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>>169867904
>His op mode is now recon and no one talks about it ergo they are shitters
Also this, although I would say both modes are more balanced (with each other, not within the game as a whole) now. If someone's in sentry all the time they're really missing the good stuff.
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>hits overtime
>game close
>hanzo right by the point never contests

why is it always a fucking hanzo standing 2 feet from it who refuses to move on.
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>>169867460
Uhh. Sombra does 480 dps in three seconds with no headshots...

I'm sure getting wrecked by an underpowered hero is annoying though, yeah
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/owg/, what heroes could you put crazy amounts of hours into and, with a competent team, just go all the fuck way to the top 500?
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>>169868165
Also has anyone from the overwatch team has addressed this?
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>>169868253
>480 dps in three seconds

I don't even know math and I know your wrong.
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>>169866924
>Do them with 2 friends
>Almost every game someone leaves and we lose because of it
>End up with 3 wins 7 defeats
>Ended up in +-1550
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>>169868256
>with a competent team

With that alone, you could pick anything and make it to top 500.
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>>169865584
>its only quick play calm down
>surely this will justify my shitty performance
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>>169865123
Elo hell is mid plat.
You can carry yourself with Zarya from low plat below because people don't know how to deal with her.
It's a total RNG in midplat you just go in, queue and hope for the best.
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I fucking hate being 1500-2000 range.

It's like getting picked last in high school P.E. and being stuck with the rejects and losers who just fuck around all the time and wonder why they're virgins 20 years later.
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>>169868397

6 stacks queue against other 6 stacks though. The only advantage you have will be being more practiced.
What hero do you think has the highest impact potential in a game?
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>>169868481
>get 1500 rating
>win every single game until 2k
If you are actually havent issues in 1500-2k chances are you are meant to be there and at most 2.2k is your peak.
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>>169868317
I got you.

8 damage per round, 60 rounds in three seconds.

8 x 60 = 480

And this is if you're aiming at his chest.

Also I accidentally added that "dps". 480 damage over 3 seconds.
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>>169868218
>Running to the point
>See someone alive and near it
>Overtime counter going down
>DEFEAT
>It was a widow who was deathly allergic to get on the point

FUCKING USELESS PIECES OF SHIT SNIPERS
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how do i make gifs i got a sweet 4 man res i wanna share with you guys
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>>169868648
I also want to know i want to share all my double kills.
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>tfw stuck at 2700

what's it like in diamond, /owg/?

My teams keep being not good

I can only carry so hard with ana
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>>169868317
>he doesn't know what 60x8 is
kys gold shitter
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>>169868737
>what's it like in diamond
Gold but worse
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That feel when used to get potg all the time as Bastion before the patch but now everyone thinks I'm just good because of the buffs
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>genji in every fucking comp match now, on attack and defence
>the genji is NEVER EVER good
Please kill me
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>>169863585
I'd spread Sombra
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I hope everyone's placements went as nicely as mine did.
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>>169868760
>noDPS : The Match
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When will they let you mix and match skins and weapon skins?
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>>169868587
Ironclad
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Would you guys enjoy a custpm that was just guns and nothing else (widow; mccree, soldier, reaper)
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>>169868959
Two years
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>won 9 placement matches
>lost the last one
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>>169868952
Basically. The match was Zarya, D.Va, Mei, Bastion, Widowmaker, and me as Zenyatta.
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>>169868737
I can attest to playing in masters and with GM's almost every game and its honestly almost a different game. People coordinate attacks, defenses, call out and track enemy ults, wombo combo our teams ults for best use, and if we lose a fight they have no problem backing off and waiting for the entire team to engage in a fight again.

Masters is elo heaven in my opinion. Just git gud and come join us.
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>>169868567

But its my team that sucks not me
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>>169868989
No because it'd degenerate into Widow-only duels
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>>169868978
Jesus christ anon, he doesn't have ironclad or heal when he's hacked.

I've done it five times today, what are you trying to prove?
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>>169868989
D.Va?
Ana?
Bastion?
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>>169868978
>>169868587

AND some armor.
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>>169869048
I made her take bonus damage.

>>169869081
That shit ain't normal guns.
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>>169869036
That sounds nice.

I'm getting really fucking tired of saying "stop trickling in, let's group up" for multiple minutes while my team trickles in top right hanamura
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Bastion on the opposing team makes it incredibly easy to carry as roadhog atm
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>>169868950
Not quite as good, but still adequate. Maybe I'll hit GM this season
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>>169869083
see
>>169869062

I'm not going to do the armor math for you when you can just fucking test it in a custom game.
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>30 killstrike
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>>169868759
>he doesnt know the difference between damage and dps

u are fucken dumb
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>>169868950
>friend finished at 3200 last season
>finishes his placements 10-0 and get put at 4083
I'm 3-0 and i'm a bit nervous even though i finished 3.2k last season.
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>>169869270
I accidentally added the "dps" bit, I already said that
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>>169869292
3290*
also, all placements do is add or take a bit to your previous rank right?
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>>169865824
I have cancer now
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>Climbed to plat at the end of s3
>3-7 in placements
>2241
>lose first game now 2194
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>>169866924
>Go 5-4-1 in placements
>drop 300+ SR from the end of last season
I don't understand how this happened. I had gold medals in every match. Played in a 6 stack and one guy even dc'd in a couple of the wins. He got 100 SR higher than last season (we were both around the same at the end of s3).
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>>169866285
>old Bastion webm
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I wish they would put limit on how long a point can be contested in overtime. if a team can't take the point within 30-45 seconds then they don't deserve to win/capture the point. its annoying to be 3 minute into overtime and end up losing because of a jumpy tracer staying alive long enough that 3 enemies can get back from spawn and all last ditch ult at the same time and take the point.
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are there any t500 that regular this place just curious
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>>169869160
I can do the math myself

Bastion(hacked):
200hp 100 armor (400 EHP against Sombra)
160 DPS out to 26 meters
3 second magazine (+1 bullet)
High accuracy

Sombra
200 hp
160 DPS out to 15 meters
3 second magazine
Low accuracy

Sure, you can kill the Bastion if he's shit, but that's true for basically everyone. But the Bastion, even hacked, has a huge statistical advantage in a straight fight.
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my apologies to the EU masters that end up in my placement matches. I wish there was an easier way to reset/derank quickly but there isn't.
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>>169869701
shhhhhh you'll wake up the faggot and he'll start spamming webms of his ebin skills again.
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Fuck Bastion
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>80% of this general are under plat
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>>169869904
guess i should lurk and find out then
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>>169869943
>>80% of this general are under plat
>Thinks RNG is skill
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>5/5 in placements
>Score high gold
>Lose some even games, win much less
>Fall to the point where noone cares about you when you play support, and you have to be the main dps as a tank
>Stop giving a fuck and start playing Sombra instead of filling up for the team
>End up every game with 3-4 gold medals
>Team always whining
>4 people inting because of my pick
>One ragequit because of my pick
>More PoTGs in one night than in qp over this week
>This one game where we had 2 healers and i outhealed both of them
Low elo is fucking fun
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i need to breed with sombra
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>>169869994
exactly. it's a coinflip. 50/50. either you suck or you don't.
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>>169869994
>externalizes his own inability to play the game well on "RNG"

This is how you stay bad guys. Believe in your memes and one day you'll get masters.
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>>169870163
>nigger lover

gross
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>>169870163
race mixing is bad
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>>169863934
My guess is ult farming. At least, that's the main reason I would do it. Knowing most shitters, however, it's probably trying to pull some david and goliath shit.
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>>169870192
>nigger
wot in ternation?
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>>169870192
But Sombra is a cute latina, anon.
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>>169870204
>>169870192
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>>169869778
The big statistical advantage (besides hp) you're talking about is literally just "high accuracy vs low accuracy". I'm not sure why you're assuming this engagement wouldn't be happening at 3 meters tops, where spread is absolutely a non-issue. Bastion has one of the biggest hitboxes in the game and Sombra has one of the smallest. Also keep in mind Bastion is going to pop out of sentry facing away from Sombra. Also plenty of those would be headshots, my man

Not sure why we're theory dueling over something I can do reliably which you've obviously never tested.
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>>169869943
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little thread up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" smug guy isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a waifu shooter. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic compfag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "DIE DIE DIE." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.


Forever...
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>>169870462
Anon, no ones reading all that
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>>169870523
Plenty of people have read the original though
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>>169865790
"In a sharp tuxedo, ego's nothing to her."
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this Sombra's pretty cute
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>>169870163
looks like a literal potato.
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I'm sick and tired of Omnic characters that dont really add anything to this "hero shooter". Like, I keep talking about it, boy. But it's still the same. Nobody has proved to be a real human being, or a real hero.
I'm tired of it.
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>>169870713
Don't bully Sombra!
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Tfw im out bastioned and lose
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I'm ready to keel.
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>>169870659
>how do I counter a stove

10/10 anon
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>complains about bastion
>didn't know ironclad doesn't affect recon mode
but he gets 70% damage reduction while healing and moving around omg
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>>169870410
I have both killed Bastions as Sombras and Sombras as Bastions. Unless you've got some kind of statistical breakdowns of the results of Bastion vs Sombra encounters among players of various skills, pre and post buff, theory dueling is about as much as you can do on an imageboard.
But yes, I don't doubt that you frequently get the kill on players who are bad enough not to look at you after almost a second of hack time.
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>>169870960
But are you ready to kneel?
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>>169867724

He is effectively the new meta. Yes he can be countered, but it's basically made every single match exactly the same unless your team is retarded and didn't pick him. The game is just getting more and more dull with every "balance" change.
>>
Overwatch comp is just roulette you never know what you're going to get or if the system has engaged omnic kill mode on your mm and sr.
>>
>posts barely negative comment towards pharah
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>>169871276
You got a point anon, she does belong in the trash.
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>>169871276
Now post barely legal pharah
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>>169871010
>mfw Tracer melts Bastion
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>>169871370
as a QP shitter, my only real threats from the enemy team so far have been combined efforts from them to take me down and a single good tracer. Which is rare obviously.

Otherwise I can just spray one or two guys down, move and repeat. God help if there is Ana or Mercy pocketing me. Then it is pretty much point and click adventure.

"yeah thats qp anon, try ranked lmao"
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>>169871370
As long as he can't aim, forgets he can now heal in combat and is alone, sure.
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>>169871029
The anon I was arguing with was saying that it's impossible. If you're not him then I'm not sure why you jumped into the conversation when you actually agreed with my point. My original post said ">press e if you're low" because this isn't a 1v1 deathmatch away from both teams.

Sombra IS a hard counter to Bastion, individual player skill aside. Even hacking him and teleporting immediately is often good enough for your team to push the choke.
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>>169871217
>he doesnt remember double cowboys and knights featuring lucio and mercy
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>>169871624
you cant say skill means shit when you literally need more skill then bastion to pull off the hack unless you count ult
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>>169871370
Sure in bronze
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I want to befriend Sombra and wear cute, purple, matching t-shirts with her.
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can someone post the link to that "3 to the 1 to the 1 to the 3" widowmaker song? I can't find it
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>>169870163
But why?
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>>169871961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkPyj_0FCyI
literally one second of youtube search. you're lucky im in a good mood.
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>>169872004
so that then i can propose to her and start a family with her and we can both be happy and make each other happy for the rest of our lives
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>>169871624
>ctrl-f "impossible"
>1 match
>your post
I also scanned back through the conversation and I don't see anyone saying it's not possible to kill Bastion with Sombra, just that she isn't particularly strong against him, especially post-buff, and as overall skill of both teams increases, and therefore you are more likely to run into Bastions who can aim left-click, Bastion's advantage over Sombra will widen.
To be absolutely clear, I do not agree with you. Don't. You should work on your reading comprehension if you in any way shape or form got the idea that I did.
She is absolutely not a hard counter to Bastion.
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>>169872146
But why Sombra?
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>>169871538
Oh and gotta love the genjis who think they can "counter" bastion ez 1v1. They were an actual threat before to me, but now they are just cannon fodder.

I am both sad and happy that blizzard thought this was ok.
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>>169872097
I tried searching for it but couldn't find it. So thanks for posting it but fuck off with your passive aggression lol
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>>169872183
Because i love her, silly anon.
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>>169872284
But she is clearly gay___
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Anyone know where this is from, google didn't help
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>>169872323
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>>169872274
The bastion meta makes me this way.
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>>169872371
But that's true, anon. She is gay for me.
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ITS GAY TIME BOYS!
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>>169871770
>>169872168

>"press e if you're low"
>"isn't a 1v1 deathmatch"

Sombra gets ult every 40 seconds, so I'm not sure why we wouldn't include it when we're talking about counters. Also every single hero can kill their hardest counter if the skill gap is high enough. At this point I'm positive that one of these replies is the original anon who didn't know hack disabled ironclad so I'm going to stop responding now.
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>>169872365
All I know is that it's not from Shadman.
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>>169872408
She is fictional, so we can share her anon!
There's more than enough Mexican hacker girl to go around.
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>>169872454
Boner lost
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>kill a couple of enemies
>game is now 6 vs 4
>die
>killfeed becomes entirely red until the whole team is wiped

I'm not saying I'm an amazing player or anything but goddamn this pisses me off.
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>>169872412
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>Tfw people thank me for a good job as healer

You do thank your healer, right, /owg/?
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>>169872520
Animated short of Sombra vs Tracer when?
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>>169872487
Fair enough, anon.
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>>169872534
Only when I UUUNNNNGGGGGHHHHHH
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>>169872454
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>>169872520
all gay is acceptable!! even the girls!!
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>>169872534
I have "thanks" hotkeyed and will generally use it when someone heals me, especially if I've asked for healing

>tfw no mercy main irl to thank by licking their pussy
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>>169872501
there's a male version if it's more your thing.
also, pregnancy
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WHY THE FUCKING FUCK DID BLIZZARD THINK IT WAS OK TO USE FUCKING ABILITIES WITH THE FLAG? OH LMAO LEMME JUST WRAITH AWAY AND TELEPORT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP

LET ME JUST BE WINSTON AND LITERALLY JUMP AWAY WITH NOTHING YOU CAN DO UNLESS THE ENTIRE TEAM JUMPS YOU

GOOD FUCKING JOB MAKING CTF A LITERAL WORSE GAME MODE THAN IT ALREADY WAS BLIZZCANCER

KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF


YES IM FUCKING MAD
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>switched from Symm whine to Bastion whine
Thanks for the keks Blizz
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>>169872679
>being a casual
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>Won 4 placements in a row
I'm inhaling right now. I can feel it. It is my body preparing my mind for the plunge that is soon to follow. Losing streak here I come.
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>>169872679
Just turnn off abilities in cgm
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>bought game a few weeks ago
>decide to try out comp placement
>platinum

is that good?
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>>169872712
>its another episode where /owg/ pretends to be grand master

youre fooling no one, more than half the people here are gold shitters, dont act like youre above it faggot
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>Bastion's Recon mode gets buffed
>Turret form gets nerfed
>people still fucking play him by parking in a corner in turret form and never moving from there

I fucking hate the playerbase sometimes.
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>get a guy who was gold in season 2 on my team
>he managed to get diamond s3 thanks to dva
>now I have him in my placements, telling me im a kid and I need to fuck myself

right after I soloed their whole team in spawn absorbing 3 ults
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>>169872679
don't worry anon youll get that lootbox one day :]
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>>169872442
Yeah, you probably should quit for this thread.
If you post "Sombra is a hard counter to Bastion" each thread, maybe you'll eventually find someone to agree with you.
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>>169872785
Ironclad makes it viable again.
And it's not like the previous Sentry mode was good because you needed aim, the increased spread isn't really that big of a nerf.
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>>169872782
lmao stay mad casual poofter

just play lucio and boop niggas away if they're coming for your flag

gotta go fast away with their flag

git gud
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FUCKING REMOVE BASTION JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY
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>>169872829
Well, I can't kill Rein charging at me from short distance in sentry form now
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>>169872662
Only canon or soon to be canon gay should be posted. Everything else is cancer.
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>>169872894
>set up on top of a box or ledge

problem solved
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>>169872969
>This art

disgusting
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>>169872534
Only if they did a very good job, which is pretty much only noticed when you're getting healed by an ana.

Or good mercy resses.
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>>169872503
>play roadhog on Eichenwald Attack
>hook and kill enemy Rein when he drops his shield
>we're 6v5, push in
>team dies I'm the last one standing
>same scenario repeats 2 more times
We ended up winning but holy shit my team was retarded.
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>>169872967
Canon is great but all gay is great too!
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>>169873056
why didn't they mirror it?
where is reinhardt's arm?

Discarded.
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>>169873056
If they're gonna try to push their homoshit, they could at least put in some effort.
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>>169872679
I like ctf because it forces smart uses of the heroes abilities that are missing in the default game.
Its just not a everyone rushes at the objective game. Honestly they should make it comp.
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>>169872679
Just play Sombra
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How the hell do I get put in 5 losing comp games in a row, tie two and lose two more. The odds of that must be astronomical and before anyone says its me I'm always on the objective, grouping up and trying to kills the bastion and the healers. This is bullshit.
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>>169873284
play lucio ya shitter you cant dps
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>>169872168
>a character that can turn off every single thing that makes bastion op, while also having the best escape ability in the game, who gains a huge amount of ult charge for healing, which builds an ult that not only shits on bastion but also the tanks defending him
>"yeah but you have to not get shot by the bastion!!"

lol
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>>169872412
>made zarya into a twink
Disgusting
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>>169873221
>>169873182
sorry can't hear you over the LOVE
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>>169873268
"Smart uses"
Actually trying to imply that it takes more than 3 brain cells to just blink away as Tracer with the flag.
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>>169873380
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>>169873465
NO! YOULL LOOK AT YOUR S2B NEW CANON AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!
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>>169869994
You might have a point with assfaggots, but the climb in overwatch is nothing conpared to that.
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SOMBRA IS ____
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hello boys :]
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>>169873552
A cute!
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>>169873552
STRONGER THAN SOME MIGHT THINK
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>>169873552
BEST GIRL
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>>169873518
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>>169873552
My friend!
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>>169873552
Me
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>>169873364
Yeah, there's really no point to tanks or a Bastion if there's a Sombra on the enemy team.
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>>169873656
>people start inting when i lock in Sombra without seeing how i do
But why
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>>169873679
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>>169873753
Because she's a shit hero and loses games
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When defending as sombra is it better to hack health packs on enemy side of choke to deny those for them, or hack my side of the choke so my team can use them faster?
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>>169873552
pretty fun and cucks Tracer like no other hero in the game, which is also fun.
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>>169873552
sombrastion
>b4sti0n'5 h4x0r
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>>169873816
>gold eliminations, dmg, objective kills and objective time
>24 enemies hacked
>my fault we lost
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>>169873824
Depends
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>>169873816
LO SIENTO THAT YOU SUCK AT BEST GIRL
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>>169873824
Hack on their side if you're attacking. Hack on your side if you're defending.
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>people sperging out if you pick off meta
Love Quick Play.
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White hat or gambler
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>>169873840
You stop it
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>>169873938
American
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>>169873893
ahh i see thank you i understand now.
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>>169873840
Oh my...
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>>169873959
i didnt play OW during olympic event though
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I got a new Legendary skin!
It's Widowmaker's!
A character I never ever use!

I tried it out. I think I hit like three people the entire match. I hope my team didn't get too mad.
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>>169873931
I suppose that makes sense, but can't you keep them behind the choke longer if you deny them that health?
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>>169873328
>Always get silver or gold damage and elims
>Cant DPS
k
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>>169873284
Same problem, lost like 500 rating today. Guess it's about the time of a day you play in.
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>>169874025
True. Say you're defending. You need to prioritize your side's healthkits to make sure your time doesn't get its shit pushed in first. After that, You can try taking some of their healthkits to deny them, but make sure your healthkits are always hacked.
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>>169874025
Problem isn't when they're behind the choke, it's when they went past it.
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>>169873739
>this game is all about isolated duels between two characters at a time

lol. You've been at this for hours arguing with several different people anon. Who's a better single counter to bastion than sombra? Not all counters are as hard as reaper v winston ye shitter. Are you really just arguing semantics of the word "counter" all night?
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>>169873416
If you can't handle heroes actually being useful you are flat out a shitter.
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>>169874219
What?
Sombra's great against Bastion.
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>>169873840
Sombra x Bastion exists!

So this is what it's like when doves cry!
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>watch a genji on the spectator cam reflect and dash around a Bastion while hitting all his shots
>he still dies

Thanks, Blizzard. You single handedly eliminated his one true counter
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>friend wants to play placement matches together
>"I heared Bastion is OP so I'll play him haha"
>has less than an hour played as him across all game modes
>end up 2-8
>2 wins were due to him not playing Bastion because "noone picked Rein, Bastion is unplayable without Rein's shield"
Sometimes I wish I had no friends.
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>>169874676
>fighting bastion face to face

genji was a dumb fuck
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>>169874676
>tfw saw a bastion live through 6 nanoboost genji ult sword slashes

LITERAL TANK META
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>>169874772
b-but muh reflect
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>>169866924
Finished season three at 2900 and tapped into diamond multiple times. Won 6/10 and got placed at 2600. I was a little upset but I'm back to 2800 after a day of playing.
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>>169862989
FAST FIXES!

>sombra
- Health now 150HP / 50 Shield
- Hacked healthpacks now outlined through walls

>Widow
- New passive: On headshot get 1 second off cooldown of currently recharging abilities
- Venom mine persists an AOE after triggered or destoryed with same 3 meter radius
- ult makes her take normal damage from headshots for duration
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nihao!
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>missing a tank
>last pick locks in Mercy
>sorry guys i only play Mercy

I JUST WANT ONE FUCKING WIN
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Is PotG fucked for anyone else? I've been landing quad kills with Graviton and some fucker gets it for a double kill
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>>169874889
these widow changes could be straight out of WoW
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>>169875046
Some guy got a 5-man rip tire in overtime and I fucking stole it with a double kill as Roadhog

it's definitely broken
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>>169874676
>his one true counter
when will this meme end
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>>169874631
I'd rather get a facesit by Amélie until I pass out.
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What are some stupid things you've heard people say in Season 4 so far? Here's some from my matches today:

>Wow, they have a bastion

>Are you sure bastion on attack is a good idea?

>Bastion please switch
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>>169874889
The fix widow deserves is a passive that makes her shot lethal to anything not a tank but have it on a lengthy cooldown.
Then make her ultimate a activation of this for the entire duration on top of infra.
You'll never hear anyone bitch about a wm on their team again.
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>>169875180
someone unironically saying that bastion could use more buffs
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Is Zen the worst healer right now?
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>>169875046
Yeah got many sextuples and pentas. Then hilariously got the potg for another hero I used killing one guy.
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>>169875280
with all the bastion shenanigans, nah
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>>169875280
Mercy is
>Bastion's self heal is stronger than her beam

lmao
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>tfw team is doing shit but you nano your bastion and clutch out the win anyway
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>>169875345
mercy is the second best to babysit a bastion
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>>169875280

Zen is more relevant than ever. His damage boost negates bastion's damage resist.
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why aren't you xp farming anon ?
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I love how people in low elo run in circles when hacked.
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>>169875046
>get a quad environmental kill with Roadhog's ult
>potg is a soldier killing 3 people not even getting a "tripple kill"
Broken as fuck.
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>>169875491
what's the point?
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>>169875491
>farm
i thought you get like 7 exp per match
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>>169875491
>overwatch even gets tf2's idle servers
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>Zarya miss his ult two times
>starting rage at me and calling me noob because I died to a pharah solo ulting me as ana

People can't hit a graviton and want other people to have super reflexes, I wish they make another 1vs1 esport game popular again because I can't take team games anymore.
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>>169875534
541 levels a month if i leave it on 7/24. i can get to gold portrait in 2 months with tons of loot boxes.

>>169875542
you get 6k~ exp in 30 minutes with group its even more
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Sombra buffs ideas:
>EMP instakills anyone in range affected by Sombra's passive
Or
>Hack also disables reloads
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>>169875598
Just reduce the spray, her mechanics are fine.
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I have to say I understand smurfs now, doing classification matches with my bronze friends and playing as pharah got 80 kills in 3 rounds of koth, really fun.
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Want to play Sombra
>QP is retarded
>Competitive will make people tilt
>Server browser is full of BOSS MODE XDD

Holy fuck.
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>>169875553
Halocaust when?
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>>169875046
I got a play of the game just for killing a Roadhog. That was it. It was weird.
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>>169875643
I would prefer reduced cooldowns. her damage would be fine if she survived a bit longer.
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>maining McCree these past few metas

Who else /masochist/ here?
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>>169875643
her hacking is literal trash 99% of the time
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and here i thought this game couldn't get any worse after season 3
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>>169875280
Zen's always been the worst support healer. Hog self heals more.
>tfw play a match with an Ana
>Heal more than her as Zen
How
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>>169875797
here's the reply
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>>169875491
you're probably going to get banned for this
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everyone talking how bastion ult would be better nanoboosted than visor but most of time bastion will get sleeped or killed even before finishing his transformation
>>
>get OW two weeks ago
>Hit 25 20 minutes after S3 ends
>Sit down tonight and do placements
>2422
>1 match, 2490
>Probably will never play competitive again because you fags have convinced me it was a curse to be this close
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>>169875871
why
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>>169875894
i swear his tank hitbox is much bigger than what it looks like. it's a sleep dart magnet.
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>>169875667
>pick Sombra in competitive
>Someone rqs
>someone ints
>this one guy who flames you all game
>noone follows your ults
>4 gold medals and everyone is still convinced you're useless
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>>169875797
But that's not Sombra.
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>>169875894
Current bastion most OP ability is his heal.
Also Ironclad should be nerfed to 30% dr at least
It will allow Trace ult to kill him. Currently, even without counting armor it deals 400/1,35 ≈296 dmg, Which is lower than Bastion hp
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>Quickplay
>as Reinhardt
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>tfw rewatching your games
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Okay, so I'm not a huge fan of the game itself (look, it's fine, just not my thing) but I am jonesing hard for more lore. Is there any resource I can go to with everything we know so far about the characters, the Omnic crisis, and the current shenanigans that are the basis for the game? A megacut of all videos in an appropriate order would be awesome too.
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>>169876209
>set crossarrows for every champion
>in highlights and potgs it looks like i can't aim for shit when playing a champ with a circular default
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>>169875491
>>169875572
Enjoy your ban, dude
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Winston is the hardest tank to play effectively. Prove me wrong.
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>>169876316
>>169875935
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>>169876245
Wiki I guess
>>
Zaryas projectiles are so cute, makes me want to learn her
>>
>bastion, torb, sym on nepal
>win 3-0
I love low diamond
>>
So how do you create an old fashioned Ana bot headshot only game? Even when I enable headshots only on both teams they can still damage me.
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>>169876368
I checked the wiki, it's pretty damn thin in terms of meaty lore.
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>>169876353
>>169876316
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>>169876352
Only because his counters are too prevalent. If they merged Roadhog like they should've, he'd see way more play
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>>169876479
>>169875935
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>>169876483
Miro somehow makes him work
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>>169875598
Terrible and No

Just make her hack do the following
>force skills to go into cooldown after hack wears off
>EMP forces a reload
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>>169876245
Twitter, wiki, illustration book
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What if Sombra's hack disabled hero outlines?
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>>169876520
because it's an exploit
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>>169875736
Why do so many people want this? Her cooldowns are so short already and I never have to wait for anything when I play her. Do you just put the translocator on a hacked healthpack and teleport back, and then wait to do it again all match? If so, try playing her more flexibly.
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>>169875280
Zen isn't a healer.
He's an offensive buff/debuff support.
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>>169875598
Shit skin. Here are actually ideas to fix Sombra
>Reduce spread so she can actually kill people in the backline and be useful in team fights
>Hack turrets. I don't understand how this is not a thing
>Make hack interruption have a damage threshold, potentially scales with hack time
>Make decloak silent and on a meter.
>Length EMP effect duration and/or add some sort of debuff like slowed movement sleep, smaller clip size, less damage
That's it. After Ana, it's like Jeff and Blizzard made a shit character and hoped someone would stumble upon a magical way to play that even they don't know about.
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>>169876853
Codey apparently found the way
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Damage doesn't cancel Sombra's invis. There you go, she can now survive.
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>>169876837
He's also a healer tho
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>>169876912
Sure and so is 76.
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>>169876837
free small health pack for flankers by just peeking to his los every now and then isn't really non-healing, tho.
>>
you now remember how shitty the pre buff symmetra was
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>>169876352
Winston needs a god damn damage buff.
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>>169876986
Well, yeah if you play him that way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
What do you do, /owg/?
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>"Waaaahhh, pick what i want you to pick! Play the game you paid for the way i want you to play it NOWWW!"

I would much rather purposely recieve a loss than have one of these ape mouthed fuckfaces win.
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>>169877202
pop ult
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>>169877095
>Winston need to be broken
No he doesn't, learn to play. The only thing he could need is a buff to the shield, either make it last longer oor reduce the cooldown.
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>>169877227
>playing comp
lol why
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Does time moves in circles?
Will we see McCree becoming the most OP hero again after age of Bastion?
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>>169876352
Thats because Bastion and Road are in every game now.

You will fucking DIE as Winston when facing that
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hey guys jeff here hope you guys are enjoying bastion

we're hoping to bump up his viability a bit next patch by increasing the damage reduction to 60% and making him invincible during nanoboost

thanks and keep buying lootboxes
-jeff
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>>169876352
Yet somehow he has a high popularity in tournament games. It's obviously not because he's hard to use, so it must have something to do with team coordination.

For the life of me, I can't figure out how he's supposed to work, even with organized teams. His shield is ass and his damage is lackluster. He tends to jump in and die like a bitch.
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>>169876853
You can already hack turrets
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>>169877247
>Symmetra melts people
>Winston does chip damage
Yeah, totally balanced.
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>>169877337
>You'll never kill the faggot responsible for Ironclad
>You'll never beat up the idiot who designed Sombra's kit
>You will never set fire to the department responsible for all the stupid ARGs

Feels bad man
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>>169877095
No he does not. He needs a change to his shield. Imagine this if you will.

Enemies can no longer pass through his shield. Give it slightly more health, and make it a little bit bigger. It compliments his role as a tank designed to get on top of and single out squishy targets.

Enemies would have to decide whether to try and fight or try to break the bubble.

The enemy team would have to actually focus his shield instead of ignore it due to whoever is inside being cannon fodder for Winston's team

and most importantly...

He could jump up and force Pharah's to the ground if he's good enough.
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>>169875598
finally some fan art in my favourite skin
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how to spot a noob:

>waaah bastion op :(((
it's the beta all over again. just get behind him lmao shoot the blue thing haha
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>>169877432
Last time i checked symmetra didn't have 600hp, additional 800hp shield that would completely cover her and can only attack one target at time. I get you monkey fags also wanna finally shine, but buffing his damage would be the most retarded thing to happen in this game so far.
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>>169877595
>just walk through reinhardt's shield and dva's defense matrix to shoot a tiny little target located on his back while he gets healed by two healers, bubbled by a zarya, and heals himself
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WINSTONS SHIELD COOLDOWN SHOULD BE AS LONG AS HIS LEAP COOLDOWN
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>>169877595
It's less about him being op and rather about every game revolving around him
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>>169877432
Since when does Symmetra have the ability to jump directly at the backline of the enemy team on a three second cooldown so she can get out if things go wrong? Plus what >>169877627 said.
Winston is my second most played hero, only after Zen, and I don't usually have any trouble while playing him.
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>4 wins 4 losses 2 draws
>Placed at 2985

Well ok
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>enemy team
Bastion, Reinhardt, D. Va, Zarya, Mercy, Lucio/Ana

>my team
LOL 4 DPS xD

surely it's mathematically implausible for this to be happening every single game
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>>169877432
Get enemies that are engaging your teammates so it at least distracts him and your damage aids them in killing him.
If you want to just be able to dive in and kill indiscriminately, just pick Genji and realise why Winston isn't categorised as offense.
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>>169877658
>entire team focused on a fucking stationary target
next you're telling me torbjörns turret is op. are you playing on console or is your aim just shit? also, sombra exists.

>>169877702
rather than revolving around lucio and reinhardt. how is this change not a step in the right direction?
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>>169874071
>Always gets the two easiest and least telling medals
>thinks they mean anything

lol
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the reason you get medals for 'eliminations' rather than solo kills is so that shitters can feel better about themselves.
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>>169866924
can tell this is gonna be a shitty season already
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>rein earthshatters the enemy at their spawn
>teammates start defense rounds standing right outside the enemy gates
>teammates never group up and perpetually trickle instead
>it's my fault because I'm the only constant
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>>169877758
Don't bother anon, they bitched about D.Va too. People wanna change in meta, but when they buff hero to mix up the mandatory big six, people cry anyway because they suddenly need to learn to deal with something new. Enjoy your new bastion till you can, because the D.Va treatment is already closing in. Maybe with bit luck he won't end up worse than he was as poor D.Va did.
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>bawwww le tank meta is awful and i hate it
>ok let's buff the only proper anti tank a bit
>bawwww le anti tank is too strong i don't know how to counter

sniper buffs next
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>>169877705
You're right, she just has the ability to put down a million fucking annoying turrets. God damn idiot.
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>>169877383
As winston your goal is not necessarily to kill people, but to open up and disrupt the other team so that your team can go in.
Most notably you can force these pesky high perched soldiers and widows to drop to the ground or die, as they cannot duel you around your shield.
You can also displace healers far from where they need to be, finish up people that took a lot of chip easily, shield your team, etc.

Just sufficiently rustle jimmies until your team gets the advantage. And be wary that without your shield you're a pinata. It's filmsy, sure, but it's got just enough hp to do the job of covering your ass while you tickle everyone and wait for your jump cd.

Also important note: Jump landing does a significant amount of damage.
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>>169877595
>The blue thing also has 30% damage reduction

Explain this
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>get damage boosted by mercy
>weapon accuracy suddenly drops significantly
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>>169868760

You are on the path to enlightenment my son. The next step is to get powered up, and get in there.
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>>169877661

It should just stay up if it's never broken.
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>bastions are still ulting when nanoboosted instead of shredding people in turret form

Even when you're OP as shit you can still have dumb players, Bastions ult honestly kind of sucks.
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>Use quick play to fish for achievements
>End up with shit stats because of it
>Get matched against silver and gold players
>Tryhard for two games
>Now matched against master players
>Last season I was high platinum
>Feel like I could have been diamond, but I kept getting really shitty teams and yo-yoing around 2900
Time to start playing like shit on purpose until I'm matched with people who stop hiding when McCree ults so I can get that spray.
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>>169877227
>pic related
A W A Y
W
A
Y
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>>169877537
>enemies can no longer pass through his shield
>He can still shoot through it, allies too
That's just flat out unfair. if you want something like that it'd have to be extremely easy to break. 200hp or so
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>>169878009
Alright, you're just saying things at random now. So what if she can set turrets? How does that relate to a Winston damage buff?
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>>169878173
situational. there are some times a bastion ult is better than parking yourself and spraying. harder to get away from a bastion ult, for example

but yes, bastion is one of the best targets for a nano boost when it doesn't have its ult
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>Ironclad does not apply to Bastion's core

Wow somebody hire me to blizzard's balance team, I just fixed him
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>>169877973
>>buff the only proper anti tank

Sure it's not like there weren't enough reasons to not play Reaper

>make his recon mode basically s76

ebin
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>>169878317
yes, because we definitely need more offense class players.
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>>169877870
>Be Ana
>Rein charges in and dies every life at final choke of Gibraltar
>So bad that teams spawns are completely out of sync because he getting killed at the choke and it's a signal for the rest of the opposition to push past choke and gets easy picks.
>Lose
>"WHY DIDNT YOU ULT READ THE SITUATION"
Sins like this shouldn't be allowed.
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>>169878370
Yeah actually you're right you fucktruck, lets also never nerf Ana and revert Hog back to one shotting Zarya, we wouldn't want less support players now would we?
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>>169878317
What's the matter edgelord, D.Va was already stomped to the ground, wasn't she the only one making Reaper unplayable according to you lot?
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>>169878404
>ad hominem
>attacking a straw man
i see you've run out of arguments
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>>169877595
>Bastion can now live through Hanzo and Genji's ults
>He can also tank shots from widow as she cant hit his critbox behind him
>Also the critbox has damage resist too

Really
Makes
You
Think
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>>169878173
Nano boosted bastion ult is fucking strong

You can jump over walls with it to fuck people up
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>Configuration: Tank
>No longer grants bonus armor
>Configuration: Sentry
>Bullet spread increased by 50%
>Bullet spread is always at maximum (it no longer increases as the weapon is fired)
>No longer deals critical damage
>muh damage reduction

overall this is a nerf, i don't know why people are complaining. he will still not be picked in pro matches, only low plat shitters have a problem with bastion, just like in the first week after release.
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>>169878450
lol because "don't buff reaper, we don't need more offense class players" is such a good argument?

>>169878427
>you lot

Wow, I must've forgotten to upload my brain to the /owg/ hivemind.

Ana massively increasing his TTK and his range being fuck all and Roadhog generally doing his job but better are what I would consider the main issues with Reaper
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>>169878463
Sombra with a decent aim can burst a bastion healed by mercy from behind
>inb4 b-but its a team game!
I am literally only stating this is possible as i have done it a few times. He is not this fucking hard to kill.
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>>169878532
not an argument
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>>169878527

Heal while moving is a wonderful QOL buff, as is the faster reconfiguration.
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>>169878527
>he will still not be picked in pro matches

Where have you fucking been? We've literally already seen him fucking aplenty in grandmasters and the tournament yesterday
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>>169877537
>another tank who can solokill anyone he gets a jump on
Just what we need.
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>>169877957
Damn dude, I didn't even realize it before but you're right. D.Va is actually worse now than she was pre-buff.
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>>169878173
not anymore. Ironclad means he actually lands more than one kill in that fucktarded looking form
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>>169878527
banned from pro scrims for being so boring already
>>169878608
trolled xD
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>>169872365
SAUCE
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you all seem to think that blizzard, one of the biggest game developers in history does such a horrible job at balancing a simple casual fps, so instead of bitching about bastion let's come up with an ep*c hero idea that will fix the entire meta
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>>169878654
Ironclad is less effective than the bonus armor pre-patch.
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>>169878527
>trying to brush off THIRTY FIVE PERCENT damage reduction.

You're a fucking retard if you think that's not a huge deal. He's also now better in Recon mode and isn't significantly worse in sentry mode, where his accuracy wasn't particularly important to chew through shields... And he can switch faster... and he can heal on the move.

He's now better Soldier.
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Post yfw you realize that bastioncalypse is a false flag to cover the fact that blizzard neglected to release anything meaningful such as a new hero in February
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>attack objective
>grouped with 2 stacks
>it's a hanzo and mcree episode
This fucking game. Every. Day.
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>>169878754
>He's now better Soldier.
no. just no.
soldier has the better ult, an aoe heal (remember, this is a TEAM game) and better burst. he gets in and out of fights much faster and has a smaller crit/hit box.

i bet you're low plat
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>>169878754
>better soldier
I don't get why people say this. He's more similar to Roadhog in his sustainability, and ability to just kill enemies quickly and without effort
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>>169878821
>Last hero was 5 months ago
>Last map was 2 months ago

How are they getting away with this
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>Just want my fucking loot boxes
>Team keeps being shit
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>bastion op
>roadhog op
>soldier op
>lucio op
>ana op

lmao and no one is complaining about reinhardt like ever
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>>169878821
>>169878884
But they released the shitty server broswer and new comp season. That's enough new content for like next two months according to them i bet.
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>>169878874

He's a greedier soldier, not necessarily a better one. He can't DPS and heal at the same time, but he isn't locked to a small area, but he also can't help his team weather chip damage or Zarya ult. Still, anything that makes Reinhardt players buttfrustrated is fine by me.
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>>169878942
Server browser is good
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>>169878216
>>169878626

C'mon guys he's just keeping in line with Blizzards buff philosophy.

All or nothing.
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>>169878942
>>169878884
>>169878821
fucking adhd generation Z fags. 20 years ago most games didn't get ANY new content ever and they're still better than the vast majority of modern games, even now.
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>>169878917
Rein and Zarya. Yeah, the two most broken pieces of shit and mandatory pick ever since release going under radar like always. It's quite impressive at this point, really.
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>buff shitter's pick: the hero
>buff fucking mercy of all heroes
>sombra's gun is still beyond shit
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how to play junkrat
i want to reach welfare master with him this season
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>>169877957
>>169878651
Man you two fucking idiots are the reason no one even appears in threads anymore

You're all mostly gold fucking retards this season and last, and the anonymity of 4chan allows you to hide your rank so the higher ranks dont call you out on your shit fucking opinions
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>>169878826
50 hps/s > 40 hp/s, the only real loss Bastion has is that he doesn't have the burst of a rocket. Their ults are about comparable, although Bastion does have the ability to jump over a Rein shield with his, which I have seen happen a couple times.

I'd say he's still better than soldier as an overall character at this point, Soldier is just a solid dps character that's slightly stronger than McCree, Bastion meanwhile can fucking tanks ults like no other and destroys Rein shield in seconds, forcing the enemy to either pick a Bastion of their own to break your Rein shield of use Sombra EMP
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>>169879086
shoot pills at people
use trap+mine for deleting idiots
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>>169878993
>nothing but ebin 50000000% everything, so crazy XDDD and boss battles

Fucking great.
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>>169878028
>disrupt the other team

You see, disruption doesn't work in this game.
Seeing as how fast paced and a lot of the heroes deal lots of damage, you might as well just pick any other hero and kill the enemy team. It's way more efficient than disrupting, see Sombra for example, Jeff himself said that they want her to be a disrupter than an assassin type and look where it got her.
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>>169878917
>>169879046
They made every chokepoint the exact size of his shield.

You could change almost anything about Rein but as long as he still has that shield he'll have the same pick rate

The only part of his kit I'd consider changing is Earthshatter and Charge feel fucking random sometimes whether they connect or not
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>>169879086
He is shit. The sole reason for junkrat's existence is kids who like spamming and old people who don't have the reaction time to play real classes.

Spamming is always bad and never works. The only way to fix junkrat is to make him more skill-based (such as replacing his current nades with stickies) and it would remove the reason for his existence.
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>>169879156
Make your own elite server then
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>Play healer
>Gamesaving ults
>Fuckmount of healing
>lose

>get forced into a tank
>I'm not a good tank
>Somehow gold eliminations and silver for everything else
>lose

>get dps
>gold for everything but healing
>card for solo eliminations
>lost

Repeat x10
What do
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>>169862989
so, super deep never-before-seen fan theory here that you've all probably thought of already

this bastion nonsense is a stale-meta bandaid, right? they knew the couldnt have s4 be EXACTLY the same as s3 so they had to make some shit up to change the meta before they release the new hero who will ACTUALLY change the meta, so they thought up the laziest shit they could and threw it on the live server hours before s4 started.

so now we have to deal with the absurdly, objectively, retardedly overpowered bastion for a month or so while blizzard make ACTUAL (heh) balance changes and MAYBE (HEH) release the new hero to the ptr.

like, the patch had literally no balance in it besides a roadhog berff (a hero theyre literally going to fuck with every patch until hes a dva-tier never pick) and some petty dva bullshit alongside the bastion insanity.

how long was it between chinky new years launch and s4 start. they couldnt make an actual fucking balance patch? that ptr was live for fucking forever.

its baffling sometimes, man. why put in so little effort.

ive been playing since day1 open beta and read "DEAD GAME' shit every patch since launch but holy fuck, we getting there now boys. it's on the horizon.
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>>169879086
>Play TF2 demoman
>come back
>now decent Jewrat
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>>169879227
the only constant in these 10 games is you.
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>>169878917
Rein himself is not OP
Its the fault of the fucking maps that causes him to be picked so much.
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>>169879217
>elite server
Fuck off to minecraft again
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>>169879227
play with your team instead of chasing after cards and potg
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>>169879215
Well yeah he's not the best I just wanted a handicap this season and junk is fun
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>>169879021
Companies 20 years ago dont have the budget and team size that blizzard has.
>Be trillion dollar company
>Cant make content at a steady rate
>Pay interns to make stupid twitter ARGs
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>>169879331
>I just wanted a handicap this season
play sombra then
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>>169879101
>Has lower DPS than she did pre-buff
>Has less armor than she did pre-buff
>Implying she's better now than she was then
>Implying no one posts in these threads

Can't tell if bait or just literally brain damaged. Either way you should do the world a favor by finding the nearest body of water, swimming to the bottom of it, and taking the deepest breath you can.
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>34% winrate
>can't drop in rank because i get like 3x points for winning

thanks, blizz
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>>169879229
>stale meta

>end of s3 is the most diverse the pro scene has ever been, with another ana nerf it will be diversity central with dive, 2/2/2 and triple tank being viable

the reason it takes so long for balance patches is because blizzard are stubborn fucking retards that even when their lead hero designer is in the top500 discord of OW they STILL won't listen to any of the shit people say to him

whether they be pros or high level players they dont give a fuck
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>>169879331
>I just wanted a handicap this season
Go Mercy
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>>169879195
>>169879282
Oh look, it's the maps, we swear Rein defense force on it again.
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>>169879229
People overestimate influence of balance on the longevity of the game
Not a single popular game is really balanced
There is like 3 useful weapons in CS GO
Team Fortress 2 meta never changed
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>>169866924
>attack hanamura
>dps locker gets mad and keeps throwing himself at their bastion
>as pharah
>consistently mowed down
>tell him to destroy their teleporter instead of jobbing like a bitch
>"I don't know where it is, you look for it"
>tell him I am busy taking the point as Zarya
>have gold elims but enemy are reappearing almost as quickly as I kill them
>he finds their teleporter but by then their sym just builds another
>fail to take first point

>nepal
>literal children on my team
>they suck
>we lose and I implore one to practice more in quickplay before trying comp again
>he reports me

Season 3 was my first, I placed 1800 and dropped to 1100 before climbing back up to 1400.
This season I placed 1085, but have stomped every game since and reached 1300.

I had no idea I was this awful at video games.
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>>169879101
t. bronzeshitter
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>>169872534
No, because I am the healer.
I love healing so much, I'm doing my job so I don't expect praise but it's certainly very much appreciated and I gravitate towards the person who thanks me instinctively even though I want to heal everyone equally.

I don't expect commendations at the end but I feel loved, even though people vote healer anyway just because "no one else will" even though I play healer like 10x more than anything else.
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>>169879389
I feel you, 35% winrate and I'm steadily climbing upwards.. Why does it work like this? I already feel like I'm outmatched, but the few games where people carry my terrible ass are worth 4 losses so I keep getting higher people, I'll be a rank I can't compete with by the end of the week at this rate!
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>>169879430
Nice counterargument anon.
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>>169879384
>>169879441
post your ranks id love to see them

wouldnt be surprised if you're two asshurt platinum dva retards boosted by when she was broken
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>>169879086
Just remember to not feed the Zarya
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>>169872365
>>169878678
I've got you famalang
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>>169879495
>autistic screeching: the post

You've done nothing to actually prove she isn't worse than she was even back when she was shit. The fact you seem to think she's good shows that you're probably mid-silver at best.
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>be shit widow
>team getting rolled by bastion, rein mercy combo
>switch to widow
>hookshot and creep behind
>100% power scope mercy
>hookshot to cover
>Team distracts bastion and rein
>100% power scope bastions glowing blue weak point for massive damage
> sit back and wonder why players ranked gold+ struggle

If you can't beat bastion then just act as cannon fodder until you get a teammate with a braincell
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>>169879430
are you implying that almost every chokepoint is not in fact the size of reinhardt's shield?

If they made his shield winston-tier then yeah, he probably wouldn't be used and it'd force teams to switch to dive comp with a sombra to counter Bastion
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>>169879579
let me run from the question and not post my rank xd

thanks for showing me you are gold or a boosted platinum
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>>169879396
>>169879431
were you here in the thread before the start of s4? people losing their shit that there had been no news of changes, people losing their shit at the little content we got.

they HAD to change the meta, whether it be for the better or worse. I agree that the end of s3 was great, it felt like you could run anything from triple tank to triple dps, with dive and whatnot all adding different ways to play the point, but imagine how shitty people had've been if it was exactly the same.

and to the guy that listed the games that didnt change meta, this isnt one of those games. people have come to expect change (that''s blizzards fault) and blizzard delivered in the best way the know how.
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>>169879486
>>169879389
not trying to be rude but are you guys in silver or something?
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>>169879280
I can't find what I'm doing wrong. Like, not like "im the best and it's my team's fault" but like "i am looking for my mistakes but I'm bad at it".
>>169879324
Except its usually the other way around - my team usially runs off and dies one by one while i play for the objective. The reason i got so many single kills is because enemy team does the same thing.
>>
i got placed in 1800 silver, im ok with this. just means i get to work my way upward :)
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>>169879659
currently my rank is 2941, but the system is trying its hardest to but me back to diamond where i was last season.
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>>169879618
Why are you getting so upset? Why do you think rank has anything to do with a character being objectively weaker than they were in a previous build?

Oh, that's right, it's because you're some dumb faggot with a double digit IQ posting on 4chan.
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>>169879659
I'm 1500, was 1200 and struggling, but still gaining rank even tho I'm losing, I've only played for about 3 days so..
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>>169879607
And are you implying that even if they changed the maps he wouldn't still be mandatory because walking barrier, Zarya tier ulti but much faster, oneshot move and generally being countered only by another Rein?
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>Americans asleep
>EU and aussie cunts awake
>Shitposting goes up

Interesting
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>>169879643
i mean most of the people are low rank retards that either post waifus or vent about their own inability to win so i dont think it matters

see >>169879717
who refuses to post rank because he is in fact low ranked like i thought and will not acknowledge that dva is ran till this day in APEX

the meta shakeup could be some illuminati shit like you believe but in my eyes its just blizzards shit balance at work
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>>169879584
>playing KotH
>enemy bastion sets up off the point and blasts his rotary rape rifle
>team panic and try to shoot him from the point
>obviously ripped to shreds and start to whine
>tell them he's not even on the point, it's 6v5 if we stay out his line of sight, which is easily done
>send a flanker if you're worried
>they continue playing bastion at his own game
>I am routinely alone on the point
>steamrolled

It keeps happening.
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>>169879618
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>>169879821
Well, aussies dont actually own games due to them being so heavily taxed, so why wouldnt they shitpost heavily
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>>169879821
it's 2AM in europe you fool
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Just out of curiosity, reply with your S3 rank. Everyone, anyone that wants to.

Im just curious because in my mindset (for some reason, lack of confidence probably) I feel that I'm a shitter and anyone that talks to me about the game knows better.

I'll start: 3505
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got 4 guys throwing today, got a widowmaker who didn't get a single kill today, don't remember low platinum being so bad
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>>169879853
Maybe in your europe. It's noon here.
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>>169879826
>they ran Mercy and Torb in there for five mins, guess they are perfectly fine as well
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>>169879853
It's actually close to noon, chucklefuck. So no, it's objective truth that europoors increase shitposting 1000%.
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>>169879871
4200
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Hana pleases old men for buffs.
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>>169879871
S3
>2673
Now
>1980
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>there are people under plat in this general
>there are people who think this game is luck

memes aside its actually sad
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>>169879961
mercy is literally used in dive comps and in the tournament today she was used multiple times on koth

what the fuck are you even saying?

torb is a niche hero who is good on numbani first and hollywood first and also sees play on those maps

>>169879832
playing 40 games and i was still higher than you

like i said everyone who scrimmed or pugged knew she was fucking broken and thats why she was hit by that nerf

ridiculous to think that a character whos ult literally gives her a mega aoe zone + another life could have so much hp

and then dva retards blame muh ana healing

as if they weren't both fuckin broken
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>>169880092
Mfw this >>169879989 happened
i landed in high gold and fucked up badly
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>>169880092
>only way to get anywhere are streaks
>not luck
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>>169880092
>there are people that get emotional over stats on a multiplayer game in this general
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>>169880106
We were kinda talking about her being worse than she was tho. Or are you one of those faggots who considered D.Va broken even during S1/2 days?
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>>169880106
Who are you trying to impress anon?
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>>169880265
himself

and me too also like 4.3 fuck you that's high af
this faggot hadnt finna camped the rank with he one game a week no decay bullshit he finna maybe make top fiiver
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>>169880334
Did you just have a stroke?
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GUISE IS THE NEW BASTION GOOD ON KOTH
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>>169880092
How are people actually under plat? There's no mechanical skill requirement to play this game. Just play Winston or Lucio. Any game sense is easily learned by reading up on online guides or tactics.
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>>169880372
yeha ive been awake for like 32 hours

he finna pass way lad
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It's shocking how many GM level players don't seem to realize that EMP instantly turns Zarya to a 200 hp hero

If you notice enemy Zarya is caught in your Sombra's EMP then you should be focusing her as one of the first targets as other DPS
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>realize I'm an idiot and you actually get 10 comp points for a win, not 3
>only need 30 wins for my next gold gun, not 100

Hopefully I can make grandmaster this season maining Ana and Pharah, I haven't tried for a long amount of time to really rank up but my highest has been 2966.

honestly my winrate would massively improve if I'd stop getting fucking hanamura and anubis, no one knows how to attack on those maps, including me
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>>169880450
so much delusion
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>>169880106
>4344 season high
>complains about D.Va ult

I guess the memes don't lie after all. Last season GM truly is like S2 platinum.
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i just woke up, have people already adapted or are we still whining about bastion?
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>>169880518
Not him but it's true tho, my winrate is way better on koth
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>>169880450
>hopefully make gm
>2966
>cant attack

the fuck you finna on about mate. you gotta know how to play the game at, like 3.2. the difference between games at 3k, 3.2 and like 3.5 is absurd. people will kill you if youre playing support, you will get melted as pharah (esp in bastion meta).

like im hopeful for you, and i appreciate that youre hopeful but you cant be saying i dont finna know how to play the game but i hope i make gm.

people still dont know how to attack in gm so that parts alright.
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>>169880265
i dont give a flying fuck about impressions im talking to someone who posted his rank when i asked

>>169880260
no shit shes worse than before she got nerfed after being buffed to a ridiculous state. she and ana were the worst offenders of the tank meta and made the game unbearable to play in s3

i played in only scrims and the weekly game you need to do to stop decay because it was so bad

she had better mobility than winston, a massive aoe ult that did great damage and gave her a free life for doing nothing while also being easy as fuck to charge, the most effective hp in the game WITH retarded amounts of armor

not to mention her good damage that doesn't need to be reloaded and matrix is still one of the best things in the game

>>169880538
you're literally an inbred if you can't comprehend why her ult is strong

the fact is its a better version of mccree ult at zoning and she gets her mech back for using the fucking thing

there are no downsides

im willing to post my s2 rank too if i need to
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Why are French Canadians so toxic? Every fucking game where I'm queued with one it's just an unending flood of buttpain; about the comp, about individual player performances, about e v e r y t h i n g.
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OR-15 hint or glitch?
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>>169880594
>finna
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>>169880713
>toxic
Word used exclusively by obese Tumblrinas and feminized numales.

>e v e r y t h i n g.
Oh look, you talk like a Redditor on top of that.

Do something useful, for once, and hang yourself.
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>>169879512
So this is paid content ?
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>>169880863
its dva
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>>169880863
>reported several times during PTR
>still goes in, together with tons of other bugs

Really, what's even the point of that shit? It's not for feedback, it's celarly not for bug report either.
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If I dont do my placement matches this season will my hidden rank decay?
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>>169881035
if you havent done them yet you already decayed to bronze
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>>169881035
>hidden rank decay
what did you mean by this
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>>169880518
I mean probably, but I haven't actually tried to make it far in comp before outside season 1 where I got to 65 and stopped for the gold gun. Every other season has just been doing placements in the last week

>>169880594
I'll keep it in mind, honestly I just put grandmaster as the goal because of the comp points, I wouldn't be surprised if I stall out way earlier especially solo queue.
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>win game
>lose points

thanks
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>>169880961
The same thing happened the last time PTR went live, the "Hello" animation wouldn't play if you were aiming at someone in your team. The bug persisted until this last patch. I don't really know why we have a PTR at all.
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>>169881204
your placement matches dont mean shit your rank is just temporarily hidden inbetween seasons and is revealed again when you start playing

he is asking if that rank decays from inactivity like it normally does when someone has a rank and is inactive
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Can a fellow weeb translate what it's saying on Genji's armor? The text on his stomach
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>>169881428

"Made in Usa"
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so is bastion really meta or was it all hype.
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>>169881035
I'm pretty sure your hidden rank can't decay, even if you decay down to diamond and you were GM you'll still get put in GM games, not diamond/plat ones, which makes the whole decay thing seem kind of pointless really
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>>169881453
He's not just meta. He's fucking op
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>>169880889

>typing with spaces in the letters
>Reddit

Yikes son, did you get here last year?
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>>169881428
"War God"
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>>169881035
mmr doesn't decay, only SR. so if you don't do your placement matches nothing will change because you haven't been placed at an SR rank yet.
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>>169881428
I need healing
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Friendly reminder for all my fellow Pharah autists that you can create custom aim training games against Ana and Zarya bots now.
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>>169881450
>>169881712

Memes

>>169881517

That doesn't seem like Genji
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>>169881712
xD
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if a widow snaps to instantly headshot me twice when I wasn't even on her screen in the killcam(she was scoped in the whole time) is that aimbotting?
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>>169881428
"the pleasure of being cummed inside"
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>be lucio main
>6 placement matches in, 3 lost 2 draws 1 win
>say fuck it and go bastion
>win every single game
>people in the enemy team getting mad
>40% team damage dealt minimum
I can't stop anymore, this is too much fun
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>>169881712
unironically chuckled
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>>169881503
That's right, it's actually closer to Facebook or Twitter, the twitter of some obnoxious 16 year old bimbo, concretely.
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>>169881858
impossible to tell from description post webm
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Why did I place 500 ranks lower than I ended last season, despite doing far better in placements this season.

Is it because I stopped playing ranked for like a month before end of season?
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>80% scope acc
>gold damage
>we secure objectives because i take out 3 people
>as soon as we lose control the kids start yelling into the microphone
>they all report me for playing widow

almost every single game is like this,i just wanna kill myself at this point
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Made a wallpaper thing. Not my art.

Enjoy?
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>mfw Bastion survives 6 direct rocket hits (the entire magazine) with his self healing
yeah I guess I'll wait another patch before I finish my placements
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>>169881790
It's the same kanji as his "God of War" spray
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>down 200 points into fucking plat after starting to play junk
WHY AM I SO SHIT WITH HIM
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>>169881980
I actually really like good widows, nanoboosting them and looking at the killfeed is really satisfying
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>>169881963

>t. Gilbert Bisaillon

Man, this french canadian comment hit close to home for you.
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>>169881517
>>169882031

Thanks lads
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>>169882041
Junkrat's skill floor is also Junkrat's skill ceiling
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is lucio shit in this meta or is it just me
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>>169882123
his speed boost is pretty much useless with el presidente comps.
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>>169882075
t. Michael Go- Oh wait, not anymore.
t. Linda Goldstein
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I want to kill D.Va and wear her skin
I want to become D.Va
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>1-7-2 in placements
>get placed 2900 down from 3000
>friend I was playing with gets 1750 down from 2050

Placements are a joke
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>>169882218

>invoking /pol/ for noticing that frenchies are ragers and massive faggots in video games
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>>169882329
No, calling you out for talking like a frenchman.
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>>169882379

>projecting this hard

Posting overwatch thing because somehow I'm having an off-topic conversation in /owg/
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We all agree that the French are stupid, now end this autism.
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Is anyone here degenerate enough to buy me a smurf account in exchange for nudes? im a really cute trap
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>>169882596
>trap
>not a cute twink
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>>169882443
>le toxic
>le r e d d i t speak
Kill yourself.
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just opened 30 loot boxes, buds
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>>169882710
That's like 120 dupes, grats anon.
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>>169866924
Won two matches since I played with my retard friends who maim junkrat and other really situational characters. Placed 2600
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>>169882710
>non-seasonal pleb boxes
why even care my dude. if you're above level 300 you probably already have the best stuff.
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>can't compete with bronze players
>have knowledge of ONE character so far
>been carried to 1700

I want OFF THIS RIDE RIGHT MEOW!
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>36 hours latter
>D.va still not fixed
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what other games are as fun as overwatch for low competency gamers? I play hearthstone and wow, but getting bored with blizzard stuff
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>>169882596
lol why are literally all traps such sluts?
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>>169882898

>A year later
>Roadhog and Zarya still exist

What are you expecting?
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>>169882760
>>169882813
yeah, that's why I stopped opening them in the first place. sick of dupes. I think from now on I'm only going to open them 10 at a time, at least that way I have a chance of getting something
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>>169882658
I can be whatever you want desu I'm flexible (;
>>169882954
I can't help it :p
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>>169882956
What's wrong with Zarya?
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>>169882956
roadhog is weak this meta
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>>169880594
>Diamond
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>169882869
I genuinely wonder how people this bad at the game exist
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>>169883059
>shield buster is weak in the president meta
I don't think so
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I just bought a non-event item despite ">buying non-event items"ing anons multiple times.

In my defense, I have 14k and it was only 250 coins
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Is genji good in this meta? I've been practicing him a lot to the point I'd feel confident with him in comp and wanna give it a shot.
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>>169880926
obviously
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>>169883138
Plus, he can pull bastions out of position.
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>>169883016
that's not how they work, anon. loot box content is set once you get it.
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>>169883132
I only played for 3 days, but I cant stop winning
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do the afk lobbies work? do you even get xp in skirmishes?
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>>169882898
Don't worry anon, soon they will move it next to the black screen bug in the know issues section and keep it there until end of days. It's not like it affects anyone anyway, who in their right mind would pick D.Va now.
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>>169883059
I just won a game because I grabbed the president.
True, he's not as strong, but he's still good.
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>>169883297
I know, how does that change anything? My chance of getting a worthwhile non-dupe out of 10 boxes is higher than my chance of getting one in a single box
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>>169883228
Pls respond
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>>169883419
There's also the bug where Dva's sprays don't stick, because every time the gremlin exits her mech, it somehow counts as a "death", and the spray vanishes.

Been like that since launch, so no hurries, Blizz...
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>>169882123
It feels useless to me as well. Time to step it up or pick up a different support for a while
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Bastion is completetly fair and balanced if he killed you you were merely out of position, He punishes bad positioning that is all.

You should bait his healing and his weakness is focus fire, you shouldn't be trying to 1v1 him.
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>>169883228
Too early in the meta to be sure, keep trying him and find out.
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>>169883574
Stay in quick play genjifaggot.
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GUISE IS BASTION VIABLE IN KOTH
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It's time to have that talk again. You know, about the Finnish hero
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>>169882658
>implying anyone wants twinks
Twinks are bottom of the barrel (with fat guys being last) in terms of desirability. You're better off being a trap if you want to appease to people.
Shitsux.
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That one guy that says he is a c9 fan and misses their most important game.
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>>169883869
This is why I said trap
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>>169883765
of course
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>>169883917
>that guy who admits who watches overwatch esports
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So is it true that the game is completely ruined now?
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I bought every single widowmaker skin even though I never play her. I just like to watch her in different skins from time to time.
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>>169867724
Ana, roadhog, Pharah and maybe widow from afar can deal with him. On his own, he can be outplayed, things get hairy when a team runs the WWI comp to protect him
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>>169884254
Isn't shadman actually some kind of nonce?
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Guise will symmetra remain shit or does she ever get another buff

We really need an additional turret mode to make her less shit in those (most) situations where there are no good places for turrets. Make them hover around her or something.
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>>169884372
Doubt she'll get anything since she's already destroying people in low ranks by flanking the whole backline.
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>>169883865
We don't need another sniper though. Would like if it was a hakkapeliitta though, or just some guy running around and stabbing people with a puukko or whatever that's called
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i feel like the difference between diamond and masters is that masters have more patience and don't tilt as easily
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>>169867724
>nothing breaks a Reinhardt shield faster than a Bastion
>Bastion can no longer be easily killed by flankers with his metric fuckton of healing, damage resistance (which becomes ENORMOUS when coupled with Mercy/Ana), and standard bodyguards
>So what this means is the best counter to Bastion is either 1) Your own Bastion, to break their Reinhardts shield so people can actually shoot at him or Hog can hook him, or 2) a Sombra EMP

He's not literally unbeatable but it's condensed the meta to fucking revolving around him, even more than Reinhardt or Ana.

Oh and nevermind that he can setup and leave sentry form fast as fuck so it's not like he's a sitting duck, and his recon mode has almost 0 spread so it's even easier to get headshots with him than it is with s76
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>>169884487

> google hakkapeliitta

> it's a car tire
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>>169883704
>You should bait his healing
That's giving him and the supports ult charge.
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>>169884584

>Hakkapeliitta (Finnish pl. hakkapeliitat) is a historiographical term used for a Finnish light cavalryman in the service of King Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden during the Thirty Years' War (1618 to 1648).
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>>169884584
M8 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitta
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Is Ana+Zen the support combo of choice atm?
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has anyone else had problems with the game kicking you out of the game since the start of the season? its been happening several times a day to me
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>>169884808
Ana + Mercy. Damage boost and Rez are so fucking strong in the Bastion meta.
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widow hookshots only is the greatest thing ever
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FUCK
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>>169884937
>hookshots only
how do you make this though
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>>169884864
Yeah two times I lost connection to the game server. But both of those times I was on the main menu. And my internet was fine the whole time, so I'm not sure why it happened.
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>still no ana nerfs
>bastion is fucking ridiculous
>ctf is one of the worst modes of its kind in any fps ever
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>>169885007
its worse because when it does it to me it completely crashes my PC for some reason and my internet is fine the whole time literally just won a game on oasis when we were 2-0 down after i dced twice
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anyone else using shadowplay? whenever I start to record my ingame ESC and ENTER stop working.
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>>169883574
Divecomp is still very strong so yeah sure. You just need very good team coordination or you'll get raped by Bastion.
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PSA: If koth goes to 2/2 don't start switching up the comp. Play with the comp that got those 2 wins. Don't switch because "oh this may work." do what did work. It's not fucking rocket science. Stop doing it.

and yes I'm salty
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>what these koreans playing
>none of them using a bastion in Volskaya of all maps
Do they have a thing agaisnt it?
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>main Pharah
>can rarely get an angle to boop Reinhardt out of the way of Bastion

I guess I'm just not gonna bother with comp this season, it's all the regular counters plus this 4 rocket to kill turd behind a shield being constantly healed. I can't even get in the back and kill the healers without him 180ing and instantly shredding me
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>>169885005
I think you have to kick people who don't follow the rules
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>Bastion, Symmetra, Torbjorn, Ana, Zenyatta, Reinhardt on Eichenwalde defence
I've been to hell lads, it's impossible to kill this cancer team. A discorded Zarya lasts exactly 0.5 seconds in the choke.
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>>169885292
You could take this season to play someone other than pharah. You got to adapt to the changes, not give up.
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>>169885292
>4 rocket to kill turd
if he heals himself even 6 aren't enough
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>>169885367
I can play Soldier and Ana decently but Pharah's who I have the most fun with, Soldier feels boring and playing "babysit the Bastion" with Ana makes me want to blow my brains out

>>169885407
Yeah, 4 is just the ideal with his damage reduction, nevermind his own and others healing.
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>>169879431
>Team Fortress 2 meta never changed
but im running booties
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LiY0FYuJzQ

Bastion meta in a nutshell
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Anyone missing tank meta now?
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>>169885543
>shits on rein
>shits on zarya
>shits on even the most broken ulties

I'm starting to like this new bastion.
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>>169884487
An iron sight sniper with higher bodyshot damage and no option for low damage rapid fire would play pretty differently to widowmaker tho, in particular if he couldn't climb with a grapple and doesn't fire a hitscan projectile.
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>>169866285
what render settings should i use to get under 4mb but still get a decent quality ?
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>>169885543
>180 dps isn't enough to kill someone

nice
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>>169885675
So ana?
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>>169885543
honestly I solo ult Bastions as Pharah now whenever I get the chance. the trade is absolutely worth it.
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>buffing bastion

This game can go fucking die for all i care
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>>169866338
Hanzo main, no trouble with bastion because scatter + one more arrow.

Stop being bad at this game
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>>169885717
What's the fucking point of 500% health if he takes 500% damage and has no way to defend himself?
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>>169885649
no but I'm missing the post tank meta we had the last weeks of s3. so many people laughed at me when I told them the Bastion changes would fuck up everything and that they should enjoy s3 while it lasted.
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>>169885849
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>>169885543
how can it be worth it, they are using one player (maybe) and you are using one player plus ult
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>>169885768
>>169885927
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>>169885721
are you that guy who said that we don't need a flamethrower hero because mei is a flamethrower hero
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>>169886002
Unironically yes
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>Gold
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>>169885927
because Bastion is simply worth much more than Pharah at the moment, same skill level provided. a boosted Bastion will very likely kill your entire team, if you take out the Bastion you ruined their entire push.
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>>169886153
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>>169866924
8/10 wins, got placed 2 wins from plat. Not bad i guess.
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>>169881771
Details?
I only knew the McRee method with Ana and headshots only
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>>169882025
>Made a wallpaper thing.
>cropped a picture
it's a great pic but there's not much gratitude you can get for cropping it
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>>169883132
I've only had the game 3 weeks and can reasonably play 1 hero from each class to a competent degree, willing to switch and adapt as needed, can reliably push through multiple enemies.

Only every play Hanzo or Genji in mystery heroes.

Still feel like I'm shit at the game.
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>enemy push
>high noon behind Sheiild
>rein runs away
>come on mcree that was a terrible ult
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