/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>169846852
Please don't remind me

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>Beat Pontiff on the first try
>Took a dozen attempts to beat the Abyss Watchers
Do I have mental retardation?

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>>169847009
Does that make you feel sad tho 'cause you said you never feel sad :')

>kill Orphan of Kos yesterday
>feel like a boss
>today
>die to fucking Memelash several times like a skreb

That magic attack that shoots everywhere is so annoying holy shit. It keeps oneshotting me, can I even stagger him out of it?

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

How is Dark Magic in dark souls 3 compared to dark souls 1 and 2? I'm testing it out and it seems like utter crap.

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>>169847169
No, it's just disappointing

>>169847141
Soulsborne is one of those series where what bosses keep fucking up to aside from few bosses that are genuinely easy or hard varies wildly.

>>169847141
There's some minor elements of RNG involved in how much of an asshole some bosses decide to be at times. Plus a lot of stuff comes down to your build and weapon of choice or stuff like a boss moveset clicking with you much quicker than others.

Is the Lothric Knight Greatsword good? Those Lothric Knights are fierce that use them.

Makes me wonder if I should level Vitality to use it and be able to fast roll still. I usually just think Vitality is totally not worth it because it's pretty much just for fashion souls,

>pick up DS1 again because RtD died pretty quick
>get to lower burg
>those dogs

Holy shit, I forgot how bad the dogs in 1 were compared to every other souls game.

>>169847492
It's inbetween, given that you were retarded enough to ask about a type of spell casting that was nonexistent in DaS1 and broken in DaS2.

>>169847141
This is perfectly normal. Pontiff is either very ez or very hard. When you beat him, it'll be effortless because you got a good pattern and stayed ahead of his positioning.

And Abyss Watchers is really the same way. If you get a bad run of it in either phase you're pretty toast; that boss is relentless when it feels like it. Getting into the proper rhythm of both fights is more important than actually being good, and it's hard to reorient yourself if you got tilted off the rhythm.,

>>169847870
DS3/Bloodborne dogs might be worse because no poise.

>>169847860
It's good for paladin builds. That's pretty much it.

>>169847870
I never really had an issue with the dogs in 1. Even in Capra they usually are far less relentless than the ones in 3 or BB that ninja dash everywhere

>>169847141
People have different experiences with each boss depending on their play styles, mentality and of course, luck. Good example of this for me was the Fume knight in Dark Souls II, he's regarded as one of the hardest bosses in the series, but I thought he was fairly okay, whereas I died countless times to Elana.

Why doesn't Sully just feed everyone to Aldritch?

>>169847901
>nonexistent in DaS1
Are you retarded? Dark Magic was literally created in Dark Souls 1.

>>169847860
are you a quality build
do you have 600 gold pine resin

if so answer is yes
if no why are you playing knight refined souls

>>169848213
"Dark" magic in DaS1 was literally just a mix of Physical and Magic damage, and even then it took a DLC to make that happen. It didn't properly exist until DaS2.

>>169847492
Affinity and Great Deep Soul are good. Dark Edge can be viable if you're not shit. ALL the Dark Pyromancies are great but especially Black Flame.

Only good Dark Miracles are the Gnaw family.

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>>169846867
Whats a good pure caster build for SotFS?

>>169848425
Yet it was stronger than the jokes that 2 and 3 dark magic is

>>169848090
Meanwhile Deacons of the Deep kills me more times on average than the Nameless King each playthrough

>>169848554
Ds2 dark magic was really strong during release

>>169848554
> the jokes that 2
Not really, Dark magic in 2 was extremely OP.
>>169848454
>Affinity and Great Deep Soul are good
Why I can't barely deal 300-400 dmg with those even at 50 int?

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>>169842710
How come I always see videos like this of people backstabbing like its ds1? What am I doing wrong?

>>169848604
What is it about Deacons that gets you killed?

>>169848808
You aren't taking full advantage of the bad netcode with a shitty internet connection or lag switching.

>>169848815
Probably the curse.

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Bosses that people should never ever die to:

>>169848739
>>169848798
Yet it can't even compare to 1's dark magic, so strong it's a speedrun strat

>>169848815
He probably uses weapons that don't affect a large area, such as rapiers for example. The Deacons become a joke once you use large weapons

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>>169848986
>speedrun strat
>you need to play through more than half the game before they become available

>>169849196
That doesn't make it any less valid of a tool to pick up along the route to kill the remaining bosses even faster.

>>169848808

It's more impressive to beat someone that way.

>>169848986
Dark Bead and dark magic in general was extremely OP in Dark Souls 1 because the damage was very high in that game compared to the others. Yes, you can deal more than 6k with Dark Bead, but you can also deal 4k with pyromancies and even normal weapons in that game when using hyper mode, something that's literally impossible to achieve in either 2 or 3.

Also, the damage may be high, but it isn't even as close to be as versatile as the dark magic in Dark Souls 2.

>>169848815
He's not using a UGS to swing through 10-15 of them at a time.

>>169849303
>kill the remaining bosses faster
>literally the only one that's actually a challenge out of them is Seath
>and obtaining "dark" spells requires beating a mini-boss and then at least two more bosses
You really have to try harder, you're not nearly as entertaining as the poison-buffed Spotted Whip guy.

>>169849401
>Also, the damage may be high, but it isn't even as close to be as versatile as the dark magic in Dark Souls 2.

Not just the dark magic but a lot of the spells in ds2 were very versatile with lots of utility

>>169848815
I tend to find the Deacons to be far more chaotic than other bosses, so as a result it's easy to overcommit on aggression then either get surrounded by fat deacons, or hit by one fireball too many or by the giant dark magic ball that the Archdeacon can throw at you. And considering I tend to not level HP at all or just very little until my combat stats are properly in place, it just makes for the kind of fight where something can easily go wrong, which ends up being more dangerous to me than fights like the Nameless King that are heavily reliant on a single target with attack patterns you have ample time to recognize and deal with.

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/dsg/ PC FC starting at High Wall. Pass dsg and signs on the rafters.

>>169849657
Who said anything about a challenge? The point was that in a speedrun it would be highly beneficial to obtain a tool that would allow you to run in and potentially one-shot a boss and save more time, even if that tool has to be picked up along the way.

Where are people usually around 110k SM? Is there any guideline anywhere on where people usually are for every SM category?

>>169848798
>Why I can't barely deal 300-400 dmg with those even at 50 int

I think the scaling is split between faith and int.

Also the damage of it was nerfed some iirc.

During release there were pictures of people dealing 2600 with afinity and magic buff spell from navlan

>tfw solo'd fume knight on my 8th try
>tfw now have a Dark Fume Sword +4 on my hexblade
Feels pretty good. My heart is still pounding.

>>169849685
Ds2 Warmth is my favorite spell in the series.

>>169849870
Maybe near huntsmans corpse or so or maybe sinners rise id guess

>>169849793
You don't seem to understand the purpose of a speedrun.

Why would someone go out of their way to fight more bosses and run through at least two or three more areas, in order to maybe save literal seconds against Seath and 4kings?

>>169849735
Archdeacon shoots a dark magic ball?
My fight never lasted that long I guess.

>>169849870
Early half of bastille, hunstmans copse, no-mans wharf, maybe heides tower of flame.

Generally 0-300k is early game tier, 300-600k is mid-game and 800k is drangleic castle and beyond. Over 1 million is stuff like DLC content.

>>169849657
>>literally the only one that's actually a challenge out of them is Seath
What. Not even him but Seath is the easiest of the bunch and speed run isn't about being hard, it's about being fast.
>>169849685
Well, yes and no. First because sorcery and pyromancy are shit in dark souls 2 compared to 1 and second because 80% of the spells in 2 are from 1, as opposed to Dark magic, which has so many new things introduced.

Dark Magic is the only really viable type of spell in 2.

>>169850014
Lingering flame is mine. Such a great tool for duels

>>169850051
Any % souls isn't very popular. All bosses runs are way more frequent

>>169849685
>shoot beams with Major League Great Sword while equipped with Bracing Knuckle Ring
>cast Repair to reload beams
>have OIK Crown equipped to restore casts of Repair

>>169850106
Yeah im abouy 300k and I'm in the harvest poison Valley but i also made a detour through shaded ruins into the well in brightstove cave for the staff of wisemen

>>169850109
>because 80% of the spells in 2 are from 1, as opposed to Dark magic, which has so many new things introduced

Theres a lot of spells in 2 that arent in 1 that can be used for zoning and creating and keeping space

>>169850236
>OIK Crown

Why didnt more people use this item? It was amazing.

I used this on my caster and healer characters. I hope they add something like it for ds3

>>169848798
Great Deep Souls is exceedingly spammable and Affinity is the best tracking soulmass move

Would a Demon's Souls/Dark Souls 1 remastered bundle work on PS4?

Got some signs so last reminder, High Wall FC going on still.

>>169850596
>Affinity is the best tracking soulmass move
I know, but this damage is depressing me so much.

>>169848090
I died much more to havel, the hollows before the gargoyles (impropper speedrunning technique) or gaping dragon than i ever did to O+S

>>169850951
It's used to harass the enemy while you go in with a dark-infused weapon.

>>169850731
The games have not aged well, so no. I, for one, don't care how fancy it looks, I do not want to see Lost Izalith or Crystal Cave in HD.

>>169837501
Dunnel marrying Priscilla is a horse shit meme because people in these threads make everything up and everyone else swallows it.

In the first place, the original Japanese doesn't even use "spouse" "wife" "lover" or anything with romantic or marital context. It translates to "companion" or "partner". Both the Japanese and English are gender neutral. The only "evidence" is that they stuck his literally who phantom ass in an out of the way easter egg area because then didn't have anywhere else.

In the first place, people only come to the Painted World after they have experienced great loss and lost their purpose in life. Pontiff is the only exception since he was born there, and so then he promptly left because it wasn't his style. Dunnel's buddy would have had to have died first before he showed up.

>>169850731
The workload involved in such a thing would be pretty massive, waste of time compared to making a new IP or some type of sequel.

>>169846293
>.gif
>not having the dialup sounds

What's even the point?

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>>169850596
>best tracking
Maybe but it doesn't matter if you can slow walk out of the way of it. The only time I've ever hit anyone with it is when I'm hyper mode trolling with it.
>>169850951
The damage is okay. Use the sage staff buff, cast it with the izalith staff, and there you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMT-3l_ppqg

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>When it's been an hour and you're still 6/30 concords

>>169851212
>Not aged well
Fuck off, they are the best Souls games.
>muh Lost Izalith
Yeah, let me just nitpick one area that isn't even that bad. Lost Izalith is just a corridor full of enemies, which is basically what 90% of Dark Souls 2 is.

Is anything below 30 Faith worth investing in? I like a lot of the spells, but I have 1 attunement slot. I love having heals, but that sounds like a waste to just use Faith to cast a couple long healing spells.

>>169851479
Use the rings that give you slots.

>>169848528
try again in the next thread

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Back in the SOTFS days, some guy always used to post his Whammu cosplay. Does anyone try emulating Jojo characters anymore or is it more or less impossible?

>>169851212
>>169851341
Fug, I just want to play the games without buying a PS3

>>169851479
FORCE

Got a gank chasing you down with fucking washing poles? Find a ledge, use force.

>>169851421
t. triggered fanboi

>>169851421
Those two games were complete trash.

>>169851561
There was this one video where a guy cosplayed Joseph. Apart from that, I've never seen another jojo.
PS: Kars with Follower Sabre and NK's crown?

>>169852397
Yeah, the Souls series is just trash, why we are even here anyway?

>>169852397
DS>Demon's Souls>DS3>DS2

>>169852565
Dark Souls>Dark Souls III=Demon's Souls>Dark Souls II

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>>169851212
>>169851421
>>169852397
>>169852536
>>169852565
>>169852738

>>169851421
People who bitch about Lost Izalith without having even played 1.0 Dark Souls makes me want to slap their shit.

Overall though the area isn't even terrible. It's just the godawful bloom and the shitty final boss.

>>169852843
>Putting Dark Souls 3 on the same level as 2
Low move.

>>169852843
>>169852843
You realize it's the same couple of guys every couple of threads who keep doing this shit for fun right? Nobody has actually suddenly "seen the light" and realized 2 was retroactively a genius game.

>>169853090
Both of them are bamco cashgrabs that shouldn't really exist, one of them just has a shinier coat of paint.

>>169853090
It's just observational. Most of /dsg/ started with DS1 and therefore puts it on a pedestal. People will even defend stuff like that shitty forced death against Seath.

Back when DS1 came out people called it an unfinished mess and said it could never compare with DeS, go figure.

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>head to Demon Ruins to grab Quellana Tome and Estus Shard
>get past the first few enemies
>"Invaded by Dark Spirit Umbral Adam!"
>no fucks given; continue on to second bonfire and light it
>take the long path to nab the Estus Shard
>pop out on the upper balconies
>hear the sound of a sorcery being cast
>five seconds later, a white ghost appears around the corner
>mfw
>manage three R1s before he realizes his ruse has failed
>several minutes of spergfighting ensue
>we wear each others' estus out
>get him down to a tenth of health
>he flees behind a poison-spitting Ghru and is lost in the mist
>no fucks given once again; continue on and get Tome
>he's still hiding somewhere
>can't use bonfire, can't use bone
>remember I haven't beaten Old Demon King yet
>run all the way to the boss, cross the fog gate
>"Dark Spirit Umbral Adam has returned home"
>mfw
>bone back to Shrine, laugh with Andre about it over a marathon estus chug

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Anyone on ps4 softs have a bloodied whip they'd be willing to hand off? Farming for this is a nightmare. I just want my belmont run.

>>169853386
I've got one sure. Soul memory?

add me my psn is EmoDragonZ

>>169853192
Dark Souls 3 is at as good as Dark Souls and Demon's in terms of level design and bosses. The only bad thing about that game is the pandering to Dark Souls 1 and linearity.
>>169853329
>Back when DS1 came out people called it an unfinished mess and said it could never compare with DeS, go figure.
People say this even today, thing is that now and even when it came out many people recognized as being better than Demon's in most aspects. The only thing that Demon's has above Dark Souls is consistency and pacing. And really, people blow the second half of DKS1 WAY out of proportion, it isn't even close as being as bad as retards make out to be, just /v/ exaggerating as usual

>>169853490
My sm is 315k if you're not just fucking with me completely.

>>169853329
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>>169853639
nah add me mines 600k I think we'll be ok with engraved ring

>>169853329
If there's one thing that isn't credible, it's the opinion of people, especially gamers, when something just came out, if you want to find out what most really think you have to wait until ''the dust has settled''.

>>169853708
Okay, what's your real psn?

>>169853339
Why didn't you just pop a seed and see if that fixed your problem?

>>169853837
emodragonz

>>169853929
>every time

>Can't handle the surge
:^)

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>>169853929
Thanks anyhow bud.

>>169854128
>died

>>169853329
Dark Souls 2 was actually the first game that introduced me to the series. My order was DS2 - Bloodborne - DS1 - DS3. Even then I feel 2 was the weakest in the series, and my dick still moves when I think about some of my experiences in 1 during my first playthrough of it.

>>169854274
>host killed me in the middle of the surge

>>169853329
When my sister told me about dark souls, I though it was stupid.
I finally agreed to play a couple hours worth of the game and fell in love with it.
She started playing about a month before me but I finished the game before she did.

>>169853852
Huh. Could've sworn I mentioned that. Nah, I tried popping one shortly after he fled, but he apparently dodged the enemies and found a corner somewheres.

in DS3 which pyromancy flame is for what I don't understand the difference besides the special ability

>>169854935
Parting flame deals more damage in melee range.

Normal flame deals more damage beyond melee range.

>>169854935
Special ability and a free mini combustion burst from point blank pyromancy on the new one. Pretty good.

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Does anyone on PS4 want to play through Ashes of Ariandel tonight for fun - I'm level 40

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>>169854445
Probably because you didn't play an early version of Dark Souls with lightning katana greatshield faggots.

I can appreciate the improvements to the combat and the interconnected world and the smaller changes that DS1 made but overall I always liked DeS more. That said, I liked DS1 enough to play it when it was the current game.

>>169854935
Parting flame has a special effect when casting melee spells like blackflame and is more suited towards casting dark pyromancies.

Can you get to the priest chime in Lost Bastile from the Wharf entrance, or do I have to go through the sentinels?

>playing against someone with good connection, yomi level 18, lose all the fucking time
>play against someone with shit connection, walk forward and hit R1 once in awhile, easiest game of my life
I am that faggot that kills you while I'm teleporting around your screen.

>>169851421
No, they aren't the best.

>>169855841
DaS1 is still the best in series. Give it DaS3 style backstabs and guard crush ripoostes and revert the DWGR to its former glory, and the game would be perfect.

>>169856020
Maybe fix up some of the weak level design and silly enemy placement and not make half the playtime bonfire hikes.

>>169856130
>half the playtime bonfire hikes.
Fuck you! This is one of the best parts of the game. Sure, teleporting everywhere is convenient, but when you can teleport everywhere it just makes the world feel like chopped up levels.

Remove teleporting.

>>169856130
I like the "bonfire hikes" as you called them. They might be somewhat monotonous but it really helps you to appreciate the world design.

>>169856130
>not make half the playtime bonfire hikes.
Shitter detected

>>169856565
>>169856634
We should remove the lordvessel and just make dead ends teleport you to firelink

>>169856565
Chopped up levels is a small price to pay for the boring walking.

>>169856634
Except for when you're sleepwalking through the boring zones that are massive just for the point of being massive. There's nothing to appreciate there.

>>169856712
We should add teleporting from the get-go and make Priscilla the level up waifu so Dark Souls can feel more like a real Souls game.

>>169855642
Better question. Can I get to Belfry Luna without killed sentinels?

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I'm going to be doing a playthrough of DaS2, and actually want to beat it this time. I should be getting the three DLCs as well. I'm on PS3.

Any tips on how to make a character not look fucking awful? The body types are all bad to meh, at least during character creation. Average or slim (I might use Raime's chestpiece)? Also, how do you make a decent looking face, as it seems to be nearly impossible to get it to be good. My first character -seemed- good when making it, but turned out to have a giant chin and nose.

What about skin color? I made a character that was meant to be somewhat pale once, then it turned out to be completely white with red blotches. This time around, I'm looking at a slightly tanned character. This is trying to factor in the game's lighting.

Maybe I should just buy soft serve on PS4. It's better, but it's more expensive and my friend is borrowing a PS3 copy and we were going to do a co-op run sometime.

My mind is in shambles, help me out here /dsg/.

>>169850083

Summon Anri and Horace (HP bloat for the Deacons)
Use a non-crowd control weapon

You'll see it

High Wall FC is over.

>>169856883
Maybe the path behind pursuer where he has all the snipers and doggos

>>169853618

after like 6 years now since DaS came out, I've come to feel DeS is better than DaS. It feels fresh and more unhinged in its designs, whereas DaS was about refining down what they felt were the most approachable aspects, and then running out of time to actually finish the game. Despite the open world meme people praise as the second coming of jesus, I find DeS to feel more adventurous and open-ended than DaS

>>169855841
If you are a pleb maybe.
>>169856861
>Chopped up levels is a small price to pay for the boring walking.
>Except for when you're sleepwalking
I love this retards who sound like they didn't even played the game. The only area that fits your stupid description is Kiln of the first flame.

>>169857259
I think i like ds3 the most.

The main problem with 2 was SM and it felt clunky compared to ds1 and ds3

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>>169857392
youre mom feelt clunky

How to I force myself to stop replaying Bloodborne and play DaS III a second time to get the second ending?

>>169857234
That's where I'm poking around, but not having any luck. That double gate with the exploding guys is blocking the direct route.

>>169857375
Wait are you retards really thinking its a good idea to have to run all the way from places like new londo to andor londor withouy being able to warp?

Some places were really far away like lost izalith

>>169857259
What makes me like Dark Souls more is the how the world feels more alive and responsive than any of the other games. Demon's Souls is amazing for the first game in the series, problem is that it was surpassed in almost all areas by its successors.

>>169857392
3 blew the previous games out of the water in most of the ways that matter. Anyone who puts anything but Bloodborne above 3 is memeing or nostalgiafagging.

>>169857526
Ahh i don't know then those are the only 2 ways i can think of to get up there

>>169857540
>new londo to andor londor
Why would you even do that? Sen's Fortress is closed until you ring the two bells, then when you go to Anor Londo you get the Lordvessel.

Only unlocking fast travel later on made the game so much better and more alive than what we have now.

>Lost Izalith
Again, you can't even go to Lost Izalith without the lordvessel. Play the game.

>>169857392

how I feel about DaS3 is that a major part of what it did with the game is just reintroduce removed DeS design concepts like mana and faster combat which is still slower than DeS (which I think is still mechanically the fastest in the series, despite it's slow-paced bosses, I haven't bothered to put DeS and BB side by side yet.)

back when DaS1 came out one of the biggest complaints by far was how incredibly slow the player is compared to DeS. in DeS you move and attack like a rocket

>>169857738
So warping is good is what you're saying. Ok yeah i agree that warping is good

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Tell me how to caestus parry Farron Greatsword right now.

>>169857540
Yes.
Combined with the bonfire checkpointing and XP loss It is one of the best Ideas FROM had.

>>169857604
Except 3 for the fact that it feels like 3 has basically no identity due to massive pandering to Dark Souls 1. Also, linearity.

>>169857875
Is that not self-explanatory?

>>169857604
The only thing i dont like about 3 is that ds2 had some great spells with utility that ds3 doesn't have and of course blue orbs

>>169856885
Fuck, scratch out the part about PS3. I'll just buy soft serve on the PS4. Going on one console without the DLC is fine if I can just play an outright better version.

Any help on character creation would be nice, as I'm not too familiar with how the lighting engine would fuck with skin color, nor which build would look best with certain armor. I assume average is fine, as I do want to switch things up on occasion.

For example, if the Heide Knights in Heide's Tower of Flame are farmable, I'll try and get that by using the Champion covenant to have them always respawn. I just hope to not inflate my SM.

Anyone else feel like the more RPG shit they add the worse the games get?
I can't stand them splitting VIT and VIG, and ADP was just idiocy.

BB>DaS>DaS3=DaS2

>>169857604
Do people actually believe that bb is better than ds3?

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>>169857937
Anon, please give me your secrets. I lost a game. This can't be happening.

>>169857836

even DeS had warping, DaS1 was an experiment in removing it and apparently they didn't like it.

>>169857559

I lament that DaS has become too action oriented, the bosses are becoming cookie-cutter. DaS2 is a horrible perpetrator of this, you can just pick and compare bosses at random like fume knight and sir alonne, who follow strict design guidelines and are almost interchangeable. there's nothing really unique about any of the bosses in that game, and it gives them zero weight.

>>169858053
>I just hope to not inflate my SM.

Just pick up agape ring.

I'm playing through sotfs for the first time on ps4.

I had sotfs on 360 but there isnt actually a sotfs for 360/ps3 and im enjoying all oc these new surprises with enemy placements

>>169858102
BB did stats best, especially removing equip load. Making equip load factor into your build was only Balanced in DaS1 because of the way poise worked.

>>169858139
Yes, because it is.

>>169857604
What if I put three on the same tier as two solely because I did not enjoy it any more than two, with absolutely no reference to technical advancements?

I replayed them all in the past two months so not nostalgia.

>>169857836
This is why I can't stand /v/. Retards can't interpret simple sentences or just pretend to misinterpret what you say so that they can look better in the argument.

Not having fast travel early on made you actually explore the world and created a connection between you and those areas since you had to actually know them and how to get to them. Then, when the areas start to get way too far away and you have to backtrack to some places, they introduce fast travel, as it would be boring to go back to so many places you already explored by foot.

Not only that, as they became extremely lazy in connecting the areas after fast travel was introduced since the beginning.

>>169857931
I'm also not a fan of the pandering or the linearity but the mechanics in DS3 are way ahead of DeS and DS1&2. There are definitely things that I would change if I could but after playing DS3 I find it hard to go back to the older games.

>>169858102
>Anyone else feel like the more RPG shit they add the worse the games get?

No, because this is a series of ARPGs. IMO one of the best things that DS3 did was bring luck back.

>>169858102

souls games were better when they were more RPG than Action, instead of trying to straddle this weird middle-road line in the design. bloodborne is great because it's not trying to be both, it takes the combat concepts of the souls games and builds an action game around it.

BB > DeS > DaS1 > DaS3 > DaS2

>>169857604
3 is ruined by the fact that it feels like a Dark Souls 1 rehash. It basically lives in the shadow of that game.

>>169858397
>it would be boring to go back to so many places you already explored by foot.

False, especially once you know the shortcuts. There should have been no teleporting except from lord rooms back to firelink.

>>169858397
Im not reading all of that.

If they took out early warping then you all would just constantly complain about how lava is the sky of earthen peak etc

Warping in ds3 lets them focus on each separate levels design without having to worry about making sure if its under a sea of lava or not

>>169858393
>I replayed them all in the past two months so not nostalgia.

That's not how that works Anon.

>>169858487
"Luck" isn't really a luck stat, though. It's just another kind of weapon scaling that comes with a droprate increase.

>>169858487
>but the mechanics in DS3 are way ahead of DeS and DS1&2
How so?

>There are definitely things that I would change if I could but after playing DS3 I find it hard to go back to the older games.
Well, I do think that's a amazing game. But I can't like more than Dark Souls 1, simply because that game had way more identity and didn't felt like pandering and more of the same, unlike 3. At least Demon's Souls feels like a new game, whereas Dark Souls 3 feels like a Dark Souls 1 expansion, except without the attention to detail and interconnected world.

>>169858819
It literally is:

>a wistful desire to return in thought or in fact to a former time in one's life, to one's home or homeland, or to one's family and friends; a sentimental yearning for the happiness of a former place or time

If I play it again and it's still good, it's still good. If anything I like DaSII more than when I first played it and DaSIII less.

>>169846867
How the hell do i get rid of the poison in harvest valley in sotfs?

I burned the windmill but its all still here

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>not having storm rulers ready for the Giantpocalypse

>>169858992
Burning the windmill only removes poison in the boss room I'm pretty sure.
The rest you just have to tank and let Galvan hook you up with some dank moss.

>>169858765
>Im not reading all of that.
Thanks for proving to all of us that you are a idiot. This folks, is how retarded fast travel defenders are.

>If they took out early warping then you all would just constantly complain about how lava is the sky of earthen peak etc
I really don't understand what you are saying. They became lazy connecting the levels exactly because of fast travel.

>Warping in ds3 lets them focus on each separate levels design without having to worry about making sure if its under a sea of lava or not
Here's the thing though, Dark Souls 1 level design shits all over 2 and it's also interconnected in a organic way.

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Who /lothric knight/ here

If From wanted to please me with one last throwback in DLC 2, it'd be Vengarl's Set and the Red Rust Sword/Scimitar as a pair set.

>>169858765
>Warping in ds3 lets them focus on each separate levels design without having to worry about making sure if its under a sea of lava or not
and the game was significantly worse for it.
BB and DaSI are among the very best in terms of place and dimension.

I feel like Dark Souls 3 is really good on your first playthrough, then you start to slowly lower your opinion about the game as you replay it. Dark Souls 2 has the opposite effect, it's really shit on your first playthrough, but you start to like it more as you replay.

Whereas I feel like 1 and Demon's Souls are good both when playing for the first time or replaying them.

>>169859212
come back when you legit farm the heavy crossbow pleb

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>>169859505
I have two because I didn't feel like farming more than I had to

>>169848808
Ps4 online connections are a fucking joke

>>169858992
Burning the windmill removes and/or lowers the liquid pools. The gas remains.

If you're trying to navigate the gas tunnels, take out a torch.

>>169858493
That's exactly it, though.
All I wanted from DaSIII was Bloodborne gameplay in a Souls environment.
Why return to your old formula when you've hit a new high with something else?

>>169858840
>"Luck" isn't really a luck stat, though. It's just another kind of weapon scaling that makes your character luckier.

FFS Anon.

>>169858881
Because it's an amalgamation of most of the best things from the previous games. For instance, 3 has 2's estus system and omnirolls but unfucked free aiming and aiming on roll attacks. 3 uses a magic system that's like DeS's and has charge attacks and uses passwords and made covenants their own item like BB and kept the 4 ring slots and 3 weapon slots from 2. Powerstancing isn't a thing anymore but IMO the dual weapons had plenty of work put into them and are an acceptable substitute.

>>169858493
Replace BB with Dark Souls 1 and BB with DeS and you are good.

>>169857375
>I love this retards who sound like they didn't even played the game. The only area that fits your stupid description is Kiln of the first flame.
So you haven't played Lost Izalith or the Forest or Anor Londo exterior...

>making my way down the tree roots in Ariandel, going slow
>start taking archer fire from below and above
>"fuck that, not dealing with this shit"
>pull out Pharis bow and counter-snipe them both, using edges to block their arrows
I do not feel any remorse for cheesing them, those two Millwood K***hts and their greatbows can go fuck themselves.

There wasn't anything important on those roots beyond the Follower Sabre and the lizard with the Twinkling, right? I don't want to go through that shit again.

>>169858102
Souls games aren't about skill-based combat. They're SUPPOSED to be about stats and shit.

>>169859976
None of these areas fit the description except for a small part of Lost Izalith. They are big, but they all have a bunch of enemies, items and whatnot, instead of just being walking zones like the guy implied.

>>169859867
There's not enough rng in the game for 'luck' to be meaningful. With 99 luck your discovery rate hasn't even doubled from baseline, while discovery can be quintupled with items alone. There are no damage range dicerolls to modify, no saving throws, no evasion. Luck is meaningless unless you're pursuing luck scaling and is a shitty addition.

>>169860083

you are slow in the head

>>169860083
>>169858102
>Souls games aren't about skill-based combat.
Not really, they are BOTH skill based games and RPGs, which is why their combat is so popular.

Also, the skill in Dark Souls is more based on knowledge than pure reflexes, although reflexes help, it's much more about ''should I attack now? Should I roll now? Should I block now? How do I handle my stamina?'' than ''I am able to roll, attack or block now?''

>>169860083
Yeah but they're sub-par at best when it comes to stats and shit.

>>169860083
This. It's why Nioh blows away Souls.

>>169859989
>I do not feel any remorse for cheesing them
That wasn't cheese. The real cheese is just ignoring them because they have shit aim and only hit the branches. The arrow explode but not fast enough to hit you while you just run through.

There isn't a single spot in ds3 where you can't just run past normal enemies.

>>169860214
>There's not enough rng in the game for 'luck' to be meaningful.

Nice opinion Anon.

I disagree.

>>169860331
Nioh is garbage. Souls games were always good because of the sum of their parts, which is something that their copies can't seem to understand.

>>169858968
You can revisit something and still be nostalgic about your first experience.

>Using Chaos Blade+5
>Dex 50
>Each of my attacks deal about 200 dmg
>Opponent is using fast weapon, each blow deals about 350-400
Explain.

>>169860374
Fair enough. I also forgot poison and bleed proc speed.

How do I punish the Crow Talons autistic rage attack? Can you backstab that, or do you have to outrange it?

>>169859128
I'm not reading all of this either

>>169860713
>I don't want to argue and just want to use this general as my personal echochamber to shitpost

>>169860535
It's pretty difficult to be 'nostalgic about your first experience' for >50 hours of gameplay.
Hell, my first experience with DaS was brute-forcing my way through the catacombs only to hit the lordvessel wall and quit the game thinking it was stupid as all hell. That certainly isn't indicative of my opinion now.

>>169859341
Nooo.

Need ciaran daggers

>>169859128
>Dark Souls 1 level design shits all over 2
Eh, in some places, yes, but on the whole I don't think so.

after fucking up my dex build, i'm rerolling as a hexer/pyro

stat suggestions?

>>169860839
Is this a joke? Dark Souls 2 level design are literally hallways full of enemies with generally two branches leading to dead ends. Only exception to this rule is somewhat Lost Bastile and Forest of the giants

>>169859775
>>169859083
OK thanks

>>169860970
you haven't played much DkS2

>>169860535
This is now really how it works. I am nostalgic about FF9, but upon playing the game again last year, I finded out how terrible it was in many aspects.

Nostalgia is when you have a deluded opinion about something due to the time that it happened, but upon experiencing It again, you are unable to experience the same feeling.

>>169860890
30/30 FAI/INT with enough ATT for at least 4 spells (maybe go a bit over for extra casts), fill ADP until you hit 96 AGI
Grab Clear Bluestone +2 and Southern Ritual +2
Enough STR/DEX to use your weapon of choice, token VIT to carry shit
Dump the rest into VIG and END

>>169861084
I played Dark Souls II for more than 1200 hours on PS3, the vanilla game is utter trash in terms of level design and bosses when compared to any of the other games. DLC is good though

>>169860785
Replace "first experience" with "earlier experiences" then. The point is that if you have a history with a game it's easier to like it, this principle drives a lot of retro gaming.

I also went to the catacombs early on my first playthrough.

>>169861101
It often is.

You changed your opinion, many people do not.

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>>169857937
Anon, thank you. Studying these ancient teachings, I have found their hidden meaning, and have parried the Farron Greatsword, allowing my soul to rest.

>>169861193
thanks

>>169860447
But the sum of Nioh's parts is better than Souls. Souls has too much terrible design in it, except for BB.

Doing the Usurper ending. Should I finish the game, or play both DLC when the second one comes out and then finish it?

>>169861306
You're welcome Anon.

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>>169861368
This is such a awful opinion, My God

>>169846867
In ds2 do people see my character name or ps4 name?

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>>169861368
>mediocre story
>generic lore
>non'esistente level design and wolrd progression
>minimal enemy and weapon variety
>good combat

Nioh is only 1/5 as good as any souls game simply because it only does one thing well (combat) while being medicre at everything else.

Does anyone have that ds2 damage graph with robflynn vs buff infused

>>169861541
They see a *****

>>169861561
Even the combat part is arguably, it just depends if you like it more action oriented or more RPG oriented.

Also, you forgot
>Enemy and boss design
>Boss battles
>Atmosphere

>>169860648

Leo Ring and counter attacks?

>>169861368
Nioh doesn't have muh lore, the levels have better enemy encounters but far more boring design to explore. Stats don't really incentivate a lot of interesting build variety, as well as the loot and weapon system being boring.

The thing it does have is a better combat than Souls. So it is a better game for you, if you are only into the combat

>>169861561
Yeah but the combat is so vastly superior to ds combat that it puts souls to shame

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>>169861561
>mediocre story
>generic lore
>in a dark souls thread
anon i

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>>169861704
>Also, you forgot
>>Enemy and boss design
>>Boss battles
>>Atmosphere

Are you saying Nioh does these better or worse than Souls games?

>>169861817
>Dark Souls lore
>Generic
Shitposting has gone too far.
>>169861810
Not really, not even close actually.

>>169861980
>in b4 BUT GREEK AND NORSE MYTHOLOGY

>>169861842
Is this even a question? In my opinion It's a insult to even compare Nioh's atmosphere with Souls.

>>169861980
Souls is pretty generic and there's very little clever about the writing. A lot of people make that mistake and overrate it because it is so vague.

>>169861817
>if I write like a retard it will look retarded

>>169862086
And it's also hilarious to say Souls has anywhere near as good enemies or bosses as Nioh. That's the confusion.

>>169862195
>That's the confusion.
If you have brain damage, maybe.

>Always wanted to shove Gwyndolin into an oven for being a tranny
>Pontiff Sillyman shoves him into a goo monster that eats him alive and uses him as a puppet to attack.
Is Hidetaka Miyazaki a shitlord?

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>>169862195
>think THIS is not miles better than...

>>169862195
>also hilarious to say Souls has anywhere near as good enemies or bosses as Nioh
I'm pretty sure the wide variety of enemy design in souls>lol onis and samurai dudes

look at the gaping dragon for example

is it possible to fit a half-decent pyro build into the SL80 bracket in das3?

>>169862096
>Souls is pretty generic
There's literally nothing generic about Souls. You can call it vague, cryptic or whatever, but if you have no idea of what generic means if you call it that.

>>169862347
>big goo things with eyes and windshield wiper arms

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>>169862347
This generic dude.

>>169862347
bb really did have the best boss designs


i wish i had a ps4

>>169862341
Uhhh, it's called a trap, DAD.

>>169862436
Man, it's so easy to spot /v/ shitposters. You just need to wait for the epic greentext making an attempt to simplify or downplay something the poster don't agree with.

>>169862410
Flatly wrong.

>>169862552
nice counter argument :^)

>>169862552
Name one medieval game that's similar to Dark Souls in terms of setting or lore.

>>169862589
Thanks. It was all I needed to dispatch yours.

Did it mention why Farron Followers and Millwood Knights were in the painting?

>>169862646
Lords of the Fallen

>>169862341
The funny thing is in-game Gwyndolin is something of a tragic character and has absolutely nothing to do with nasty stuff like tranny shit or traps in any way but the fanbase can't help themselves with projecting their sick ideas and fetishes onto him.

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>>169862478
There is more variety in design here than in all of Nioh's bosses. Nioh can't even take a unique design of monster like the yokai and not make it look like generic demons.

>>169862347
Such a pity Moon Presence was so pathetic.
He should have been at least OoK levels of asshole.

>>169862658
see
>>169862537


I wasn't even the original guy you replied too

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>>169861980
Not him, but:
Dark Souls lore really is pretty generic, a lot of it is just repurposed stuff from King's Field. For instance, KF4's flooded city and New Londo have just about the exact same story, the only real difference would be that Artorias would've died at New Londo if it followed the KF storyline a bit more closely.

FROM's pretty much been making the same game for 20 years and occasionally remastering it.

>>169862662
Farron Followers somehow wandered into it and got trapped, or wandered into it because they had gone hollow and just never left due to that. Milwood knights I'm not sure, might be a similar situation.

>>169862662
Millwood Knights lost their sacred tree, then went on a pilgrimage and ended up inside the painting.
The Farron Followers, I'm not quite sure. I don't think it's ever directly addressed.

Probably went wandering the same way as the Millwood Knights did, after the Abyss Watchers burned into into the Flame and they lost their actual purpose as an organization?

>>169862436
See>>169862705

>>169862684
LoF is a copy of Dark Souls, but not in terms of lore and setting, it tries to copy its combat and structure and fails miserable at even doing that.

>>169862784
>>169862537
You get posts as good as you give. Put more effort in and you won't be seeing the green text. /v/ scapegoating is sad.

>>169862807
>It's similar in one aspect to one game from 20 years ago that's also made by the same company
>That means it's generic
Learn what generic means and then reply to me again.

>>169862646
Berserk: Millennium Falcon

>>169862705
Agreed. Nioh is for people who just want better boss battles, combat mechanics, gameplay, etc. Souls is better at the boss designs and atmosphere.

>>169862868
stop misdirecting the fact you never gave a counter argument aside from "lol no ur wrong"

>>169862868
Except you are the one who started making the idiotic claims, you are the one saying unlikely things, so the burden of proof lies on you, not us. Even then, you still managed to make more vague and simplistic arguments than any of the people defending Dark Souls.

>>169862807
I don't remember the deific fire that keeps the world ordered and the lands being built on top of the husks of giant stone trees from my reading about the King's Field setting.

Also that's not what generic means. See >>169862946

>>169862948
Good, now name 5 more because if you can only think of one example then you don't know the meaning of the word "generic".

>>169863000
>stop misdirecting the fact you never gave a counter argument aside from "lol no ur wrong"
Anon, you have me confused. >>169862410 was the "lol no ur wrong" reply. He said nothing more than that.

>>169862948
Dark Souls obviously took many inspirations from Berserk, but I find unfair to compare to a work that's not even vidya, it just happens to have a vidya with its name.

Btw, Berserk is also anything but generic.

>>169863096
I'll agree to that standard. It means Nioh isn't generic, nor is Dark Souls generic either.

What's the best way to make a Xanthous Scholar build for DaS3, Heysel's sorcery or Jeremiah's pyromancy? I just want an excuse to wear the crown with purpose.

>>169863138
Yeah, replying to a post that was basically saying ''lol souls is generic'', when that's a claim that goes against majority's opinion. If you want to make a point that is contrary to the opinion of most people here, the burden of proof will fall upon on you, it's pretty simple.

>>169862946
>It's similar in one aspect

That's not the only thing they've repurposed Anon.

When a company can keep throwing stories/enemies/etc. into a series of games with the same theme I'd call those things generic.

>>169863083
>the deific fire that keeps the world ordered

Side story from DeS, probably based on something else originally.

>the lands being built on top of the husks of giant stone trees

Norse, IIRC.

>>169863218
>Nioh
>Combat is obviously inspired by Souls
>Setting is basically lol samurais with dark undertones, which is overdone and very similar to the likes of Onimusha
>Not generic

>>169863421
Name 5 other games with the generic setting

>>169863314
>probably based on something else originally.
>Norse
You don't say. Lord of the Rings is based upon a bunch of myths and legends as well, I guess that means it's generic and Tolkien is a hack.

Also, you are blowing the similarities between King's Field and Souls games out of proportion and I doubt you even played those games. As someone who actually played some of them, I can safely say that the similarities are too far and between.

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>>169863314
>Norse, IIRC.
You don't. Yggrasil is one very holy tree that links all the worlds of norse mythology. It has almost no similarities with the structure of the Souls world except for the fact that trees are involved.

>Side story from DeS, probably based on something else originally.
Again, one side reference in a game from the same company. That's not what "generic" means. Pic related is an example of a generic story.

>>169862662
Lore-wise, the painting acts as a home for those who have been rejected by the world, or who no longer have a home of their own anymore.

After the Abyss Watchers Linked the Fire, Farron fell and was consumed by a poisonous swamp. The Followers, who no longer had a duty or a home, wandered into the Painted World.

The Millwood Knights, after the Ethereal Oak rotted and tied, were left without a home. So their captain led them on a pilgrimage and they ended up in the Painted World.

>>169863692
>Lore-wise, the painting acts as a home for those who have been rejected by the world, or who no longer have a home of their own anymore.
This actually explains a lot. Jeremiah was an exiled king dabbling in Chaos pyromancy, he was the perfect candidate for the Painted World. Velka has always felt like an outcast, so the presence of those crows and the Pardoner's set makes all the more sense.
Then why in removed content did Shiva flee to the Painted World after stealing the Chaos Blade? Because he was a stranger in a strange land, likely exiled from the Forest Hunters?

>>169863663
Tolkien didn't write the same story over and over and change the character names and call it a different thing.

>>169863534
>onimusha
>ninja gaiden
>shinibi
>nightshade
>Maximo army of zin

>>169864027
>it's set in notjapan so it's the same thing

>>169863534
Tenchu, Onimusha, Way of the Samurai, Bushido Blade, Samurai Warriors, Daikatana, Rurouni Kenshin

>>169863953
>Tolkien didn't write the same story over and over and change the character names and call it a different thing.
Neither did Dark Souls or Demon's Souls, stop forming opinions reading /v/ posts and youtube videos, go play the games.

>>169863953
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are similar in many aspects though. Guess Tolkien is a hack after all.

Let's forget about this Nioh shit, what do you guys think about a faith dex build for pvp in Dark Souls 3?

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ay yo can someone drop me an onyx blade on playstation

>>169864383
Katana with a buff, but you're better off playing Nioh for it

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>>169864438
I played Nioh and didn't even realized it had pvp. Also, that game is meh, so no thanks.

>>169864205
>Your opinion is incongruous with mine so you must not have played the games

And you have the gall to pull the /v/ card.

After DeS I played KF4 and watched LPs of the other games, kindly fuck off with your bullshit.

>>169864286
Guess so.

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>>169864494

>>169864594
>watched LPs

Opinion discarded

>>169864409
nvm I tricked him into falling off the cliff

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>>169863953
>Demon's Souls
The story of a man against an evil force, traversing lands and slaying demons to put an ancient god to sleep, but will he choose to put him to sleep or become his servant?

>Dark Souls
Humans are linked to fire, as it starts to fade, and the old Gods who once rule over them try to keep it lit, men loose their humanity (literally and metaphorically). A man fights to keep his humanity and to light the fire again, giving the world a little more time or killing the flame to bring about the fireless age with him on top

>Dark Souls 2
A man chosen by fate to link the fire refuses to do so, choosing not to participate in the senseless cycle that traps humanity. He is then tricked by his queen herself into failure. Meanwhile, his brother believes he can break and escape the cycle. The protagonists hunts down the crows of past kings decieved by similar evil queens in hopes to cure the curse, or to transcend it.

>Bloodborne
A man exores a city on it's last night before total damnation, discovering the city's vast past and present story, its secrets, the hubris that led to the decaying ruins it is today and to uncover the current organizations and their secret plots to become more powerful, and to unmask the real puppet masters behind of all of: godlike trascendential beings. You fight The city's hunt in search of truth and to become more than a man.

>Dark Souls 3
As fire keeps fading not even linking the flame seems to work. The flame is become weaker and, when past linkers are called to re-light the flame they refuse their duty. The protagonist most bring them back to their thrones, to their duty. If they won't come willingly he willhunt them down and bring their ashes.

If you actually played the games and knew their stories you would know each game has different plots, themes and goals for the main protagonist.

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>>169864818
>a man

I play as a cute girl in all of these games sooooooooooooooooo

>>169864896
surge yourself

>>169864636
Ash Lake says much about why Dark Souls 1 is so good.
>Hidden and completely optional area that's behind 2 illusory walls
>Not only that, but you also have to pass through an entire annoying and deadly area to get to it
>After much effort, you get to the most gorgeous place in the game and the only one that actually has music
>There's a hydra with a moveset that most people won't ever see
>It's also a very important place lore wise
It's so good, it's like the world doesn't revolve around the player, it isn't there just to please you.

>>169864896
Are you cute?

>>169864818
>trascendential

lol

Give it one year and people won't even remember Nioh's existence, it's just being used as shitposting fuel now, just as Lords of the Fallen was when it released.

>>169864679
I don't need a controller in my hand to comprehend stories and notice themes.

>>169864818
>Every FROM game
>A lone warrior travels to a foggy isolated kingdom to fight monsters and realize his destiny in the face of adversity while being guided by unreliable narrators of dubious moral fabric

Changing the details doesn't change the overarching story, the main theme behind every game you listed but BB and DS3 is a quest to preserve the MC's humanity and even then each of those has an ending where you do just that. What that means changes from game to game but that's pretty much all there is.

>>169865193
yes are u??

>>169862409
Yes if you sacrifice either melee or health

>>169865420
Are you confusing storytelling with story? Yes, all these games are about warriors traveling to a distant land to fight monsters. But all games have you do that for different reasons with a different story with different themes and different endgoals. Just because you learn the story the same way across all the games doesn't mean it's the same story.

>the main theme behind every game you listed but BB and DS3 is a quest to preserve the MC's humanity

>you either kill yourself or become an edgy evil lord in dark souls1
>same with dark souls 3
>bloodborne is about becoming more thant human

Only Demon souls and Dark Souls 2 are actually conserving your humanity.

>>169862807
Who is the artorias of kf

>>169865420
>>A lone warrior travels to a foggy isolated kingdom to fight monsters and realize his destiny in the face of adversity while being guided by unreliable narrators of dubious moral fabric
That's very vague and you know it. Going by your logic, every medieval story that involves elves, dwarves and dragons is generic just because it involves those things. The only reason From games share the similarities you listed is because they fit the gameplay of their games better.

>>169850519
>Why didnt more people use this item?

It looked dumb.

Fashion > Utility

>>169863096
King field 1
Kf 2
Kf 3
Kf 4
Demon soul 1
Ds 1
Ds 2
Ds 3
Bb 1

And i think thats a shadow tower game too

>>169865851
It looked great though, especially with any armor that had greys and blacks on the metal.

>>169864125
>Bushido Blade
I thought i was the only one who remembers this game.

I just remembered the guy with the gun was a cheater

>>169859832
Wouldn't that exclude heavy armour and shields players?

>>169866062
> x series is generic
>name any other games that do the same thing
>lists games from the x series

>>169866225
Those are losers anyway

>>169859832
>All I wanted from DaSIII was Bloodborne gameplay

Yeah man, that's like when all I wanted from Final Fantasy XV was Ninja Gaiden II gameplay.

>>169866249
I doubt that retarded even played half of those games.

>>169859128
>Dark Souls 1 level design shits all over 2
Not really, Dark Souls 1 had some of the best level design in the series, and some of the worst level design in the series.

Dark souls II just ranged from okay level design to decent level design. Nothing really fancy or bad if you don't count the DLC which was on the whole terrific.

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Rate my midlevel Fire Monk/Fistomancer. The theme is martial arts and punching including the offensive spells which I feel could be considered punches without stretching the imagination too much. Iron flesh is just there to facilitate more punching.

Is pyromancy worth it in Dark Souls 2 if I don't really want to level up int/faith?
Mostly just for some mid range damage

>>169865739
Arty's sword is actually a recurring theme in FROM's games and the dude who had it in KF4 was similar to him but was guarding a water temple. He has a dark buff AOE resulting in hyper aggression just like Arty.

>>169865779
>Going by your logic, every medieval story that involves elves, dwarves and dragons is generic just because it involves those things.

Only if there's 1 character and that character does the thing I described.

>>169865679
>Are you confusing storytelling with story?

No, I just don't think that minor changes to a story constitute a new story.

DS1 is about preserving your humanity. That's your goal before you figure out that linking the first flame will kill you and that's the point of taking the dark lord ending. You can choose not to but you play through most of the game intent on breaking the curse. Yuria's questline leads to the same result in DS3 and BB can be interpreted the same way depending on which ending you choose.

>>169866521
>black gulch
>tseldora
>shaded woods
>iron keep
>castle
>not worse than any non izalith area in 1

>>169866521
Yeah, this is why I find DaS1 the hardest to go back to now. I'd rather play a game that has a lot of mediocre parts and some good parts than a game with a lot of good parts and some really shitty parts.

>>169866575
>black flame and sacred flame with 9 DEX and no sage ring
Give up a ring for Sage Ring

>>169866661
I liked black gulch more than I liked ash lake and I did not like black gulch.

>>169866521
I don't know if I agree.

I just picked up all three games this year, still haven't beaten 2 mind you, but I feel like I could have made my way through 1 and 2 without a guide or handholding, maybe just a few hints here and there. I'm not sure I'd make it through 2 without help. That switch in No Man's Wharf, the mill burning in Earthen Peak and the fucking pharros stones and petrified people... ugh. I'd have uninstalled in frustration.

>>169866249
Demon souls is the only game of its series

Same for bloodborn

And ds 2 may as well be a different series from 1 and 3

Thats 3 or 4 right there

Then there's kf and shadow tower which are their own series

>>169866690
makes sense

>>169866136
Iunno man, it seemed too big if you ask me, like wearing a barrel hoop around your head. Royal Crown was the only high fashion one for me.

>>169866641
>Arty's sword is actually a recurring theme in FROM's games

Dont recall ever seeing it in any of the armored core games

>>169865779
>snake sneaks around and there's probably a metalgear bossfight along the way and some weird colorful bosses

wow koyima is just recycling the metal gear plot over and over again.

>>169866789
>the mill burning in Earthen Peak
You dont need to do that though.

Most of the people who summoned me back when the game first game out almost never had the poison pools drained

>>169866961
That's because B-team made them.

>>169867130
killing her without draining it is close to impossible if you aren't specifically built for it (like bringing endless moss and life gems, a tower shield and something to poke her with)

>>169866661
>Black Gulch
Yeah it sucked

>Tseldora
Unironically my favorite area in the base game. Lots of verticality. I like that there's many paths on the way down as well. Having Prowling Magus as a mini boss at the start was a neat little addition, and that big army camp clusterfuck at the very start of it is fun to just run into chaotically. Spiders not like fire in SotFS is a nice touch as well.

>Shaded woods
I like the area after the foggy bit. Lots of little nooks and crannies. Otherwise yeah it kind of sucks

>Iron Keep
Is this a hated area? It's really pretty standard. The only thing that sucks is the next level aggro range at the start in SotFS

>Castle
I REALLY think that it harkens back to endgame areas of retro SNES RPGs. You have a host of previous enemies and bosses (I count Ruin Sentinels, Pursuer, Executioner Chariot, Gargoyle, and Dragonriders) from earlier in the game as almost a "test" before you head into the end game. Maybe not all that lore friendly but as a little boss rush I really like it.

Shit, they're all better than Crystal Caves, Tomb of Giants, and The Depths imo

>>169867278
>close to impossible

haha okay baddie mc bad

>>169867307
>depths

One of the better individual areas in the game, there, around 3 different ways you can make to the boss

>>169866819
>ds2 may as well be a different series
>he hasn't realized that we're going back to drangleic in TRC for the big reveal that londor is drangleic.

get a load of this pleb, I bet you didn't even realize the connection between pale shades using manikin claws.

>>169867278
Idk i remember being able to help host kill her consistently but i would just hide my sign down near jester because i didn't want to deal with it