/fhg/ - For Honor General

femwarden best

This thread will move so fast no one will no I migrated here illegally

Peacekeeper is okay.

horrible thread, gamers!

>>169805383
no

>>169805383
can you trip so i can filter you

>>169805256
yeah it's perfectly fine that PK can play a different game spamming lights and zone while everyone else has to deal with her bullshit
They're too fast to react to, it has nothing to do with block speed.

>>169805489
Yes.

>>169805383
>Peacekeeper is for spanking.
I agree.

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>>169805235
For those who missed it, here are the summarized minutes from yesterday's dev stream.

>>169805383
Peacekeeper is for making shitters who haven;t learned how to block and parry salty.

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peacekeeper is also for reporting

>>169805529

The main issues with Warden and PK stem from their zones. They are far too fast. If they nerf the speed on those it will bring them in line. Maybe a slight nerf on PKs initial strike damage.

>>169805235
Nobushi?

more like Nobu a SHIT

What's the best software for recording my gameplay?

>>169805529

on consoles the right stick has a gigantic software deadzone and it makes her an even greater nightmare. if you're on consoles move the stick around gradually and check how far you really have to move it to get your guard to change.

in that moment i realized how poorly-designed pk really is

>>169805383
I want to chop off all of peacekeepers limbs! I want to fillet her thigh like a salmon and eat it!

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>>169805646
>tfw peacekeeper that can do both

>>169805713
They don't need a direct speed nerf, they just need to force you to change to the proper stance before you can use them.

>>169805713
>having issues with Warden zone
Nigga, its literally a free GB if you block it that the Warden can't tech.

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Remember to BULLY Wardens to go outside of their comfort zone.
Honestly, I get fucked more by wardens feinting and then delivering on a big sideways heavy, or top heavy than the vortex stuff. Vortex is annoying at best. People who feint going for vortex but don't are the devil. People who fuck with your brain are a lot more difficult to deal with.

>>169805940
>they just need to force you to change to the proper stance before you can use them
that'd actually be an excellent change for zone attacks across the board

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>>169805383
justice

>>169805792
do controllers on PC have this?

>>169806065

That's exactly how Kensei is meant to be played. They are absolutely terrifying with their mind games.

>>169805646

Yeah no, you should not purely go for blocks and parries against her. You are fucked if you do that in most cases.

>>169805627
oh shit thats almost entirely good news
well done ubi :)

Does anyone else has the basic attacker/defender colors locked out? I have to reset my appearance to use them.

I'm talking about Storm and Dusk, btw.

>>169806069
Raider should be the exception, and I think nobushi dodges into hers so those should get a free pass as well. Honestly applying the change exclusively to fast switching characters might be the best way to go about it.

>>169806167

That feeling when a Kensei successfuly cancels his overhead big swing 3 times in a row, only to guard break you and hit you again but it fucks with you each time.

>>169805940

The reason why that is a problem is guardflickers. You can't react properly.

>>169805627
Well shit it looks like they are actually trying to make this game better...color me surprised.

>>169806112
don't know. by default, maybe, but i'm sure there's a way to reduce or remove it. again, no exaggeration, you almost have to hit the plastic border before your guard switches on console. it's insane.

>>169805627

Fascinating. Not even being sarcastic.

>>169806112
Yes.

xth for random hero mode (1v1/2v2) when. If there's issues with balance, let each team ban one hero before picking.

Also best of 10 ranked modes with no environmental hazards when.

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>>169805235
I need a crash course on playing Nobushi. I haven't branched into the hybrid characters yet, and I want to give her a spin first, but I've constantly gotten my shit pushed in. Either I can't maintain space like you're supposed to, or my attacks are slow and constantly get rebuffed, or my stamina gets wrecked. I want to like her, but it's rough. Where do I start?

>>169806429
Yeah, I play with my stick against the rim at all times and just roll it to whatever guard I want unless I'm going from top to allblock.

>>169806448
I understand why you dislike environmentals but you have to understand that Law and Raider are balanced around their existence.

With this being said most maps have too many.

>>169806065
what the hell was that warden side feint, it happened super fast

>>169806065
Once I got to play against better players as a Warden I was getting cucked by good berserkers on the regular. Shoulder bash feint into parries were my only savior so I learned to use them well.

Also - I stopped trying to parry against them unless they are doing a dash or have committed to a leap (which good ones almost never do), because otherwise feinting me and then going for an attack in another direction was the main way they chipped my health away.

Feints, surprising commitments, and the occasional top lights is what I go for. Usually play more defensively against them because their counterattack capabilities are fantastic.

>>169806484
If the enemy is playing defensively either feint heavies and follow up with a bleed light or just keep attempting to poke until they do something. I find people have trouble avoiding her side heavies and zone attacks too
If aggressively, hidden stance if you can time it well (counts as a dodge and as the first step in a chain, this means you can either poke the nest or kick immediately after), otherwise parry > GB > overhead heavy > kick > I forgot what goes here. The main things are to not rely on pokes for damage.

>>169806572
Give them bonuses for slamming people against walls, then.

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>play nothing but conq since the game launched
>start to get a bit tired of the whole "throw sluts into walls and bash them up a few hundred times" thing
>decide to play shugoki
>my fucking face when

Holy shit why did I not play this fat ass nip sooner? Every time I golfball a bitch off the map I get a rush of endorphins. It's fucking NUTTY.

>>169806429

I never realized that but you're right. Maybe I can up the sensitivity on the stick...It's basically artificial ping.

Looking for a side/probably new main, need some suggestions, i want something that isnt plain as fuck with more than one combo or something that atleast has feint games that i could use
I was thinking about valk, zerker, raider, kensei or the law man
Anyone recommends someone out of these?
i want something thats satisfying to play as

I hope the Roman hero brings a coliseum

>>169806484
Put a gun in your mouth

>>169806890
>>169806484
Also keep in mind she changes stances REALLY slowly, just dodge if you're not confident in a parry or block.

Shugoki is legit broken, and not in the ''This character is OP'' way.

>>169806936
and shugoki also

>>169806484
LIGHT
ATTACK
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
Also kicks.
If you're in a better bracket than me you may have to use hidden stance dodges.

>>169806925
>Every time I golfball a bitch off the map I get a rush of endorphins
Just this line almost makes me want to buy the game.

>>169806890
she gets a free overhead from GB?

>>169806704
if you mean the attack, then it was the zone attack, but double attack reticles happen due to generous input timings
since zone is made up of heavy attack + light attack, you can hit heavy THEN light, rather than at the same time, and the reticle will flash for the side you're aiming from but the attack will always come from your right

this works for all chars, though orochi, warlord, warden, pk are the only ones who have fast enough attacks for it to actually matter

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was the memory leak hotfixed or is it still happening

>>169806936
Kensei and Law are the only satisfying ones in your list.

So can Warden really not crushing counter a Kensei's unblockable or is it just me? Is that a bug or intentional?

WHY IS THERE A FUCKING 1 CHAR LIMIT IN 2V2?

>>169806936
> i want something that isnt plain as fuck with more than one combo
Of those, Valk and Memebringer. Zerker's kit is simple but does reward mind games
>>169807052
Combos? His gimmick is basically spamming heavy attacks against people who walk right into them and bear-hugging if he loses fights. He's not really that mentally demanding
>>169807075
Yes

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>>169805627
>ragequitters causing game wide lag

im rep 3 law

i want a break

is conq good at giving me that "bashing and throwing" feeling?

>>169805627
They really need to add a leaver penalty over anything, considering someone leaving the game can fuck it up completely

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>noticed i almost never see kensei players
>try him out
>pretty fun, seems pretty balanced. That's odd.
>go to 1v1
>btfo roaches and PKs because they seem to have no idea what he does or how to deal with it
>pouring of salt claiming he's op and disconnect every other match

why are assassins such shitters

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>>169807067
It's so good man. Max Throw Distance on your gear, get Throw Farther feat, and enjoy being able to launch fags off your point like a small, fat, Japanese version of King Kong.

>>169807186
so people don't go double shugo/lawbringer/raider and meme people to death?

and would you really want to have to fight double warlord/conq?

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It's clear the issue with why Conq and Warlord are so strong in 1v1 is because of their allguard. It completely negates the point of having a guard system because it comes out as fast as a regular guard and blocks anything. They don't even need any skill. If they make it take longer to execute and/or guardbreaks become untechable when in turtle stance that will help bring it in line.

>>169807279
warlord will do you much better

>>169806925
I'm getting burned out from playing kensei at this point, gonna try Shrek a bit myself tomorrow.

>>169807260
its because there is no reason not to quit if you're going to lose so a lot of people do it.

>>169807338

They fuck me up so much as a PK because I haven't the slightest clue how to fight them. You never see them.

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Why the fuck is the community for this game so autistic?

A lot of you guys on here are pretty cool but the community at large is full of 13-year-old autistic sweaty honorfags. Was there a mass migration to this game from fucking Call of Duty or am I missing something?

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Fellow PC players, should I use KB+M or Xbox or PS4 controller?

>>169807343
But is THE NOISE SATISFYING when your tetsubo send them flying after breaking ALL THEIR BONES?

>>169805627
Even though it's just talk so far, the fact they are acknowledging all the horrible shit going on makes me a bit more hopeful. Let's hope they don't fuck up

>>169807338

>berserker is using a raider helmet, and raider belt/pants
>warden is using a flail
>orochi is using a mishmash of all jap character's gear

what the fuck is going on in this picture

>>169807552
I use Xbox controller, never even considered M&K really. Same question.

>>169807543

Because it's a fighting game, fighting games are salt farms.

Raider WIP guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14wXhDHr3aU3EaRTnwl9hR_MraZvq9QFDu2l8DEf96mw/edit?usp=drivesdk

Rate and hate

>>169805627
fuck off redditor

>>169807378
conquerors all-block is straight garbage

>>169807543
wtf i hate youtube comments now

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>There are shitters on this board that actually think Warden is OP

>>169807378
no the clear problem with conq and warlords all guard is that its only weakness is its stamina use. But when they are out of stamina they can basically just block everything and maybe get hit by a few fast move here and there but for the most part wont get really punished and will just get their stamina back. They will never get thrown down because they are always looking for the gb and its too easy to counter.
This is why I think that raider is one of the best characters against all guard spammers. Raider punishes anyone who runs out of stamina hard and forces them to not just block.

>>169807415
He's fun as fuck. Abuse your super armor, throw people into walls for a guaranteed bear hug, and remember, golfballing people into spikes and off cliffs is the best way to play him.

>>169807619
Every time I hear that CLONK sound I smile. Bonus points if they roll off a cliff.

>>169807632
that's real box art senpai

I have no idea why they fucked that up either

>>169807758
This. Warden is just balanced perfectly and anyone who plays him dedicates to learning the hero properly because he's so basic.

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>>169807543
the salt mines is like 99% of the reason i play this game

there's nothing like pissing people right the fuck off

god bless the ledge

>>169807416
XP and steel payout?

>>169807779
That sounds really fun. Damn, I dunno.
On one hand :
>unbalanced
>salty community of leavers
>Uplay
But on the other hand :
>can send people flying

>>169807918
So, between For Honor and Dark Souls, which one produces more salt?

>>169807040
well he's also OP

>>169807543
The Duel mode tutorial video even says "Throw people off of shit, its their own fault for not paying attention." and there are so many hazards in most duel maps that they're almost impossible to avoid. Trying to maintain honor is pointless, especially if you're a character with knockbacks or knockdowns.

>>169807918
>be shit at game
>rely on crutch
>haha u mad xd

>>169807758
>everyone says Warden is OP
>get the game and decide to main as him
>isn't OP
>get good playing warden
>play on consoles so the most people can do is spam wow! on the chat box

you are all whinny fags

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>When you're playing a new character and you get beaten by someone you would absolutely destroy with your main

My rage knows no bounds

>>169807552
ps4 controller is straight ass it feels so small and yet you have to reach so far for the analog sticks.

>>169808053
>being this mad

>>169807978
Dark souls generates next to no salt I don't really understand the correlation.

There's too much retarded shit in Dark Souls (hit detection being the prime example) to really take it that seriously, when this on the flip side is DESIGNED to be taken seriously and taken to the hardest the tryhards can go.

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help i dont know who to main

A bot in skirmish just got a 4 team instant breaking instant win catapult holy shit

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How are you guys enjoying the fixed PK?

>>169807543
Any popular game has a shit community, i don't know what you're expecting

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>>169807543
Its a fighting game, so a lot of autistic idiots/young kids/dudebros come in and feel like losing in this game is an attack on their own ego. So they start making shit up about why they lost/rage like faggots.

There is a reason why fighters are the most popular games among blacks. It really brings out the WorldStarHipHop out of people.

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YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>169808153
I dunno, I got a lot of salt in Dark Souls when I was still playing.
Mostly invitations to steam groups like "chug that estus" and "R1 spammer".

>>169807338
Kensei has a hard time opening up the shielder fags


atleast ones who know how to tech

>>169807552
im using kb&m and im having a blast with it, feels what nicer than a controller for me, but ive almost always used keyboard so its preference thing
Overally its just up to your preference and customs, there are both "pro"players using keyboard and controller (though i think that majority plays on cotroller) so theres no real adventage on either one too

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>>169807978
Yeah, balancing in this game is a bit on the "what the fuck" side of things, but I have no problems with Uplay nor the leavers. Hell, consider it a badge of honor if you make some whiny little bitch boy ragequit.

>>169808240
I lost my shit when I heard that for the first time. So unexpected.

>>169808164
>not mining raider

Just started playing Warden, I think I'm retarded. I have an easier time parrying than blocking

>>169807871
could say the same vs peacekeeper

>>169807758
This. Anyone who has played any fighting game ever will know that vortexes are unreliable and youll almost never see a competitive player opt for a vortex over straight damage.
Vortexes are just to destroy shitters

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>>169805627
>Conqueror
>nerfed in 1v1

Is this a joke? All his slow ass can do is block attacks and throw out a relatively easily dodgeable shield bash to land a really wimpy light attack. Did Orochibabies cry THIS hard about "turtling" ?

>>169807378

Conker all-guard a piece of shit and is literally only there as a pseduo-feint, to lead into a shield bash without telegraphing a dodge, and an OH FUCK button when you get teamed on.

It EATS stamina to block any attacks in full-guard, and it lacks the superior guard which is a key component of playing a good Conker.

Unless you can pop Revenge folks will combo your stamina away and/or combo into unblockable attacks.

>>169808153

I got way more salt in DS then I ever got in this game. In fact, there's a ton of constructive chat in this game on PC even between opponents. All things considered the community in this game is actually really good.

>>169808250
I don't feel like it's on the same level.

This game reminds me a lot of early online fighting games (SF4, HDR, Anniversary edition to a lesser extent), where console players were given a direct line into the delicious world of salt farming.

So you get a lot of 15-24 year olds who don't know how to handle their rage and just go full REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE when they get knocked off a ledge or double teamed.

I got plenty of hatemail in dark souls as well but it wasn't quite as caustic as this.

>>169807758
He is alright. Might need toning down if sheildfags get shat on by the balance team, but for now he is where I expect most characters to be.

>>169808419
peacekeepers fair in comparison to warlord

>>169808164
the one you are having the most fun with
and if you want to main the strongest one then i would go for conq/law if you play 4v4 the most, or kensei/zerker if you mostly play duels

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What to rep next?

>>169808495
>throw out a relatively easily dodgeable shield bash
Unless he's got a wall. Then you're fucked.

>>169808419
But the peace keeper isn't basic. It incorporates dodgers, bleeding damage, unblockably quick side light attacks, etc

All the warden has is crushing counterstrike and a quick zone attack.

How the fuck do I dodge Shugoki charge? I've spent the last 20min in practice mode trying to get it against bots. I've tried dodging to the left and right as quick as I can, it never works.

>>169808602
Raider

>>169808172
>a lv 4 debuff makes people weak
Wow!

>>169808495
Uh conq made 3rd place in the tourney just turtling and throwing out shield bashes. I think he needs some looking into

>>169807378
>remove allguard form the game
>one week later
>"It's clear the issue with why pk, warden and now orochi are so strong in 1v1 is their zone mixup. They can quickly attack from stances they haven't even entered to completely avoid change time. There needs to be a way to cover both of those directions at once. If they..."

if you fix allblock before zone you're just kicking the can down the road

but in all seriousness, Conq should actually have his block stance reworked so that he isn't so directly compared to warlord. It would be nice if you could push the right stick in to block from two directions with stamina drain, but still move around like normal etc.

>>169808495
conqueror is one of the top 3 most successful classes in the tournaments so far, alongside warlord and PK

it's the casuals who think he's not good, friend

>>169808535
It's really a lack of inbetween more than anything. You'll get people going "GG great set! Let's play more!!" or "you are a faggot scrub" no inbetween

>>169807110
You need to work on your webms
that was too small in file size and bad quality in visuals

>>169808602
>117573 steel
seriously dude

>>169808126
Seething, you got me.

>>169808545
Care to post some? I could use some salt right.

>>169808374
Well, I hate Uplay, and the leavers bother me a bit. I dunno, dammit.

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>There are people in this Solar System who think Conqueror is OP

As warden, how do you follow up a parry of a heavy attack? Every time I try to follow up my parry, I'm too far away for a light attack, so all I can do is zone attack.

I feel like I should be able to get in a fucking light attack after a heavy parry...

>>169807942
Ragequitters won't think it's worth it if either
>their winrate is in jeopardy
>the enemy is fighting in a style they clearly don't like and don't want to deal with
Apparently, people are getting frustrated really easily in this game.

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Do I keep playing Zerker or go back to any of my other heroes: kensei, nobushi, orochi

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>>169808745
>these people are the devs

Checkmate, conqfags.

>>169808716
>throwing out shield bashes

can tourney players really not deal with this?

>>169808642
>as quick as I can
Theres your problem, hes so fat and slow and stupid and ugly that dodging during the first few decades of his wind up is a death sentence. You have to wait until hes on the move.

>>169808250
Never really saw the appeal in darksouls 1v1s. felt like all you did was dodge the entire time until someone got hit by a ghost hitbox and lost nearly all their health.

Anyone with some higher gear and mythical outfit on berserker here would mind to post how it looks?

>>169808739
I don't really go out of my way to cap salt, maybe I'll make a note of it now that I'm posting on here occasionally.

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>I'm literally the only Conqueror i see online
>Sitting on 83.7% winrate
>Enemy literally cannot open me
>If enemy gets conditioned to stop throwing heavies i just parry their lights
>They eventually end up cornering themselves out of being spooked and that's when the pain starts
I just wanted to have a flail this is getting way out of control

>>169808739
If you're still on the fence, my advice would be to wait for a sale, then get the game. That way, you don't shell out full price for something you might end up disliking.

>>169807338
>>169807505
Victories by way of lack of information are perfectly valid. It's why some "low-tier picks" can work out in competitive fighting games: because people don't know the matchup.

>>169808937

They need to make playing aggressively not too much of a hazard

>>169808606
but other classes are dangerous when they sandwich you against a wall too, and part of the game is not letting yourself get pushed to a wall, ledge, or corner

>>169808937
>dueling against a random
>shitconq outta now where powerbashes me into a wall and proceeds to shield bash+top light me to death
t....thanks

>>169807758
>>169808745

Warden and conq are on par with eachother and beneath PK and warlord's average matchup values (although they still have even matchups against them if you look at only their own matchup). I would say that both are better than the majority of the cast and typically have an advantage, but they also have more fair matchups than low tier heroes. So yeah, I'd rather see other characters buffed than see warden and conq get nerfed, but they are better than most for sure considering the plethora of underpowered characters we have.

>>169808716
What was the top 5 ?

>>169808996
Noted.

>>169808502
You dont get a free hit after you block something like warlord?

Anyone else has problems changing heroes? Going from Zerker to LAW (because you memeing fucks convinced me) with their different playstyles is tough

>>169808378
>maining raider

>>169808602
Raider.

>>169809076
no, just you. i'm sorry anon, but you've got brain disease

So how would you crybabies nerf Warlord without making him Lawbringer tier?

Here are my suggestions.

>Headbutt has increased start time similar to that of Warden's Should Charge, but it does increased damage and Stamina damage. But it also eats up far more Stamina, the goal here is to make Headbutt an important tool for Warlord but not make it spammable letting you close distance for free
>Either completely remove or rework the Superior Block Lights. There is literally no reason to ever use this because parrying is far easier and gives better rewards.
>Cut throw distance in half

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>>169808121
>They spam chat with how shit you are afterwards

>>169809076
No, I have a brain.

>>169807770
Wait, how does Raider do that?

>game glitches whenever a class hits prestige 1 and constantly shows new armor in your inventory that doesnt exist
10/10

>>169807338
Kensai have long range and fast attacks, they can also dodge well and their unblockable overhead tracks - and can be canceled into a sideways heavy.

Kensai is simply a good counter to assassins - unless they learn to parry which most don't

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>Playing console.
>Throw an edgefag off an edge.
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Replaced by a bot.

>>169809032
I dont know only watched the top three
1.warlord
2.pk
3.conq
They were pretty shitty players really.
Pk could have won if he wasnt so brain dead and stopped trying to beat warlords all block with lights.

Raider has no follow ups to parry

His charge is slow as balls, eats half his stamina, and if you don't hit a wall or ledge throws the enemy out of range of a heavy follow up leaving him worse off than he started. Oh and the hit detection on it is garbage too, hope you like sliding around enemies.

His easy unblockable is okay for blind siding but can be parried/dodged by anyone paying attention

He doesn't get any free GB so getting a free charge on grab relies on the other person sucking.

He pretty got nothing but fundamentals and that heavy into light stun.

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>>169805235
Nobushi is cute! CUTE!

Have the devs mentioned any plans for a new game mode? Perhaps a longer, larger more strategic mode similar to a moba?

>>169808642

Be aware of when their hyper armor is up. If it's up, stay mid range. Knock it out before trying close range.

>>169808717

I've actually been pushing to have their zone attacks nerfed, too. This game would be a lot better if their zones were nerfed with all guard.

>>169807260
It's not game wide lag. More like making the whatever that bridges player's connections work overtime.

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>>169808121
>when I queue again, get them again, and pick my main

>>169809024
>top light
>not side heavy
shit conq indeed

>>169809076
I mained conq and after moving on into other characters....
i havent ever died so many times in such a short time in any game

>>169808745
post uplay

>>169808312
as kensei i get shit on pretty bad by conqs. As soon as I parry them a few times they just go for infinite stam drain and overwhelm you unless the map is a huge open space for me to dodge around in. If they know how to tech in tight quarters it's over.

anyone have tips for that shit?

What goes through a Peacekeeper players mind when hes spamming light attack and whirling the stick?

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What am I sposed to do with Whip Chain Man's shield bashes?

The only good one is the one after you heavy.

The dodge one just pushes them back and the omniblock one just kinda gives them the ol' taparoo. What am I supposed to be doing?

>>169809408
Don't get in a corner. It's literally that easy. Keep distance and keep yourself open. Conq is shit until you're in a corner.

>>169808842
tourney players seemed pretty garbage. they just turtled the entire game and thought thats how you play the game. Im signing up for a tourney on the 5th and should get an easy win against all the turtling warlords with a pk.

>>169809440
The naruto themesong.

>>169809147
the suggestion to keep people from teching when they're grabbed during full block has been thrown out plenty of times

You could cut out stuff like SBL or his FBS to R1 combo (yeah, he has that, for no reason, and only after a block when his board and blade R2s true combo anyway) since they're unused, but trimming fat isn't really nerfing. You could give warlord orochi throws and he'd still be top tier, we ought to just give his throws to raider.

>>169809464
Shield bash them into walls. It'll wallsplat them allowing for a free side heavy. All of his shield bashes are the same barring the sprinting one.

>>169809464
light attack

played against a conq who did nothing but shield bash > light attack yesterday and it was horrible

You know judging by people's complaints about balance (vortex, shield bashes, light attacks) I think it's pretty obvious the playerbase at large ain't dodging and rolling enough.

How the fuck am I supposed to fight against a Warlord? I feint, like 3 times in a row. When he's opening himself up, he just tanks through my hit with a heavy of his own, but his has armor, which is usually followed by a headbutt to fully drain my stamina because I had to feint him fifteen gorillion times. He does so much damage for being a supposed 'slow tank heavy' with the second most health in the game, if not the most - I can't recall which.

If you attack, and he parries, well, you're out of stamina and at his mercy. His attacks have the weirdest timings where you literally can't use the animation on the character to parry, but you have to actually eyeball the indicator, which I usually don't have to for most characters. Not to mention, Conqueror's downside to being tanky as fuck and difficult to breach is that he can't parry so his mixup and mind game is on the lower side, but Warlord can feint with the best of them.

How the fuck do you breach the fat fuck? I'm tired of losing to this fatty and have no clue what I could even do to improve upon the fight, even when reviewing the recording of it.

>>169808624
>It incorporates dodgers, bleeding damage, unblockably quick side light attacks

not from what everyone who hates PKs says in this general

>>169809604
t. warden

>>169809583
Yeah that's the one you can perform after the heavy. After the omniblock and dodge ones the enemy is out of range or can block so...

>>169809584
Is the unblockable guaranteed after a GB?

>>169809612
Parry him. Warlords want you to be aggressive.

>>169809612
>the second most health in the game, if not the most - I can't recall which
Neither.

>>169809076
whats wrong cant just side dash light the entire time?

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>>169809583
every conq above prestige 1 does that, its the only aggressive move available
and relying on it kills you against anything that has a sidedash-attack
fml i hate valcuties now holy fuck

>>169809332
>when they accuse you of cheating

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Post webms of what you think has caused the most rage in your foe

>Can't dodge Walord's fagbutt as Warden or Lawbringer
What the fuck am I supposed to do against this bullshit?

>>169809604
you're not wrong but as far as PK's lights go she can catch you if you roll to the side and going back just resets neutral, plus she can read it and safely lunge, so you aren't getting in on her unless you remove her shield-of-blades by actually making her stop and/or counterattacking, the latter of which isn't an option out of a dodge for some characters.

>>169808719

To be fair there really isn't an in between those two. Though I tend to be more neutral after matches discussing what happened or hope someone pulled off a move.

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Daily remainder that knights are autistic. He played valkyrie level 18

>>169809831
Predict but then that opens you up for parries. SoL I guess.

>>169809697
As far as I know, yes.

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>>169809823

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>>169809060

Why block with a guard that lacks Superior Guard and costs you a chunk of stamina on each hit when you can just block it for free, stagger heavy hits and prevent chains that don't require an initial land?

It's an OH FUCK option and has it's uses, you can drop into all guard and shield bash super quick, you can feint with it, it's handy against assassin's who can hit faster than you can block shift, but no one who knows what they're doing is going to be flummoxed by all-guard, it's a handy utility with more offensive capacity than defensive.

Unless you want to pop Revenge, drop all guard and hold down the zone attack, which is just giggles.

>>169809705

That implies they attack without it being safe. I have not faced a single Warlord that attacked unless he knew he could either tank it because he saw I was committed to it, or he could do it for free.

>>169809749

Point being, they are fat. They are on the higher end on the health pool.

>>169808797
Guard break after parry (if you're in range) into your Warden stuff.

If you're not in range then zone

>>169809612
bash or charge him
anyone who wants conq or warden nerfs has no idea how many favors they're doing warlord

Why the fuck are the only good mythical outfits on the knights side

>>169809697
No.
You can still parry it, that roach was just so abhorrently bad that he tried to block.

>>169809923
aw dude 4 str 4 stam leather vult

AAAAAHHH

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>>169809823

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Why does the Orochi parry allow them to get a free hit that does half my health and can't be dodged, blocked or parried?

The only winning move is not to play?

>>169809772
it was just annoying because it seemingly has no stamina cost and beats out my own bash while providing him immunity to my attacks, BUT he can also full block my lights following my charge so there was no point trying to play vs him

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So why was the update so large if it was just tweaking stats and fixing the occasional bug?

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>>169809823

>>169810149
music

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>>169809823
ppls quit a lot

>>169805627
I'm surprised they care

>>169807632
Warden also has a shield

I'm thinking they just tried to combine all the classes from each faction into one dude for the box cover

>>169810123
feint into GB, if he dodges then your guard break is guaranteed to hit

>>169810123
Guard break also gives them a free heavy, I don't get how people complain about PK when this weeb does all she does and better, because they can either spam light or spam GB, and if you attack, they parry.

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>people saying Conq is as bad as Warlord
>people saying Conq should be nerfed

Warlord has a shield bash, Conqueror's only tool, plus a handful of other things and damage that's at least as good. How in the fuck to people even consider them to be on the same tier? Is it that they get bullied because they can't sidestep?

This "Conqueror is really strong" meme makes absolutely no sense to me given that every other class has more, and often better tools, higher damage, better range, and higher speed except some like Shugoki and LB that have other things to make up for it.

>mebe ur jus bed conk lel

I win plenty with Conq but 9/10 times it's an uphill battle. When I play any other class I'm amazed at how easy it is to get attacks in on my opponent.

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>Warlords everywhere.

>>169810176
wut

>>169809180
With his unblockable
Basically they have to either eat the unblockable which is half their health, parry the unblockable or dodge it but i can just feint it and gb their parry because its so slow or gb their dash and I throw them on the ground and they eat a nice top heavy into the same setup.

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>>169809823

>>169810203
godly counter gb

>>169797324
Any source my man? It looks sort of like sparrow but I stopped bothering with them for a while so I could be wrong.

>>169810203
Haha, jesus, I can feel him raging

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>>169810268
>Feint
But Anon I am Conquerfu

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>>169810203
>Kill a Roach quickly with a feat
>He says "OK Dude" and gets spawned instantly because of sudden death
>He jumps me as a execute another roach throwing a kunai at me
>It really activates my almonds (and my revenge mode)
>Slap his shit nearly to death and he runs
>This happens
kek

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>>169810203
that last one always gets me

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>>169809823

>>169810490

You can use All-Guard to feint, silly.

>>169810497
I just bought that execution too. Fuck is it satisfying.

>duels
>level 12 pk
>he does all the cancer shit and plays like someone who picked up the game on release
>ask him and he says he just got the game today
>ask him how he knows how to play
>"youtube videos and bots. this is also what i played in open beta"
>he kills me in a majority of our duels simply from just spamming and using feint mixups into spam

Good thing she got buffs!

>>169810285
have you watched a single tournament? conqs regularly go toe to toe with warlord, and they both blow everyone else out of the water barring PK

it's not a meme if people dominating the game and playing for cash prizes are regularly running him with success against the other "overpowered" classes

>>169809943
>PK light fast enough to interrupt shield bash

fucking what

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>>169809943

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>>169810497
What is it about Roaches.

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>>169809823
>>169810578

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>>169810741
What is it about wardens

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>>169810656
How you dying to light spam learn to parry nigga
open your eyes nigga
Walk away from the PK like wtf!

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>tfw LB main
>Wanna play Orochi because Tozen is fucking badass but the roach infamy is too powerful
>Posting webms is out of the question

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>>169810831
What is it about Conquerors.

No, really, what is going on here.

>>169810497
>a tiny little parrying dagger used by a scrawny whore can amputate an arm

whoa......

>win a lot with main
>get bored
>switch to different character
>mmr was upped by winning
>have to fight better players than before on an unfamiliar character
>lose a lot
>mmr tanks
>get bored with alt
>switch to main
>fight shitters again all day
how do I stop this?

>>169810953
Stick to a character who won't bore you

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>>169810919
Uhhhh

>>169810831
Kek I love it when ledge fags just sit by ledges and do this. I just get a free kill

>>169805349
Back to your country, nigger!

>>169810932
cutting joints is ridiculously easy

t.cook

>>169810880
How is anyone surprised that someone on revenge and a lv4 debuff will wreck shit? I've done that as LB too.

>>169810658
No, is there a place to rewatch them? I need to see how these other people are playing against Conq and why they claim he's so strong. Repeated shield bashes alone aren't too hard to deal with, and I say that as someone who has literally never lost to another Conqueror.

>>169810831
i get people like this all the time, they even spam guardbreak while i'm light attacking them

>>169810932
Once you cut through a roach's outer carapace the limb cracks open like an over ripe Mellon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbvthTfG8kk

What is it about Youtubers.

>>169811090
Before or after being boiled soft?

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does Kensei's side heavies even connect after GB confirm?

>>169810880
AOOAOAOOAAAAAAAA

>>169810361

brb maining LB

>>169811036
they all bore me after a while

>>169810831
>tries you shit you off the ledge
>gets shat off the ledge
>gets mad
???

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>>169809823

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>Newish to the game
>Like the 4v4 modes the most but the matchmaking is pretty stupid about team levels, it's usually mangeable at least
>Very first game today is dominion, my team with like two rep 1 guys, then me and another zero rep
>The other side is a rep 3, 3, 5 and 2 with two of them being yellow gearscore and one purple
>The two golds are revenge gain warden and warlord, the purple is a PK
>After however many deaths where I couldn't do a single thing, I just start to cancel my lock-on halfway into fights against most of them once they start in on me

The gear stats shit makes this game so insanely demoralizing, like usually I don't care one iota about this kind of stuff in games but I just exited the game after that match and had to sit there for a minute and sulk.

>>169811156

>Thiskillstheroach

>>169811224
Maybe you don't like the game.

>>169811162
I almost don't want to watch it on the off chance I agree with him on something.
Is it as bad as expected?

>>169811254
oh god why do roaches have to suck so bad at blocking

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fuck, man these memory leak / freeze / crash issues just fucked me twice in a row during the 2nd duel i did after launching the game

why the fuck is this happening now

why do i still wanna play this game despite this

>>169811174
before

>>169811174
The human body is warm my dude, that meat under the skin even more so.
Get a sharp enough knife or dagger in this case and it wouldn't take too much to cut an arm off.
Now doing it through the armor is a different story.

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Remove P2P for 4v4.

Remove bleed and balance Nobushi to fit the change.

Remove Peacekeeper.

Remove the tracking on Warlord's headbutt.

Make at least one (1) fucking duel/brawl map without hazards or pits.

Buff Lawbringer.

Make all gear purely cosmetic.

Rework orders to not favor the shittiest gamemodes.

Remove vs. AI orders.

Allow more emblems to be saved at a time.

Fix Matchmaking to match players by some MMR system according to skill with each individual character, not overall Reputation.

>>169811162
>viking
No surprise here

>>169811319
I dunno, I'm only four minutes in.

To his credit, he doesn't attack a guy he suspects to be afk.
But still...
>mashes the attack button when already out of stamina
>bitches after missing parries
>get thrown out

>>169811120
dmbrandon on twitch

>>169811306
I do

everytime I switch a character I have fun again

it's the match making that's pissing me off

>>169809943
>>169810684
>people think conq counters PK
She can play passive at least equally well

>>169811390
>Remove P2P for 4v4.
Easier said than done. Agreed entirely with the rest

>>169810179
4 gigs of music?

>Finally get to Rep 2, level 19
>Think I have just one more match to hit rep 3 and all that good gear
>Disconnect from 3 domination matches in a row
>Do a really slow, tedious duel against a warlord
>Completely forget that after level 19 I have to do all of level 20 as well
>3000 more XP to go
Fuck my life

>>169811449

thanks

what's pissing me off about LB is that they all learn how to parry light attacks

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>>169809823
that post gave me many (you)s, i appreciate

Take your bets /fhg/

When Warlord and Conq are nerfed who's the new character people are going to be shitting their diapers over.

>>169811285
They SHOULD remove it for ranked games. It's so retarded.
>Get hit by a Nobushi once and die instantly.
okay

>>169811651
Peacekeeper.

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>>169810919

>>169811331
He's probably trying to go for the deflect but doesn't understand that you can't deflect out of a light attack chain.

Valk is such horseshit now. Not nearly as bad as PK but still horseshit.

>>169810351
>unblockable
>half their health

try 1.5 bars chum

>>169808829
go shugo

>>169811651
if PK doesn't get nerfed soon, then her

if she does, I guess warden and valkyrie

>>169808739
Buy it, play for 1 hour and 59 minutes, refund

>>169805235
To that guy who posted those links in the last thread to prove Onna bushi and shieldmaidens actually fought in battle, both of those articles only talk about folklore and myths.

>>169811762
PK has always been [justifiably] bitched about

>>169811847
>justifiably

wrong

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>>169811713
im not fast enough as conq to block the lights, it just murders my in 5 seconds, and can't rarely dodge the autoaim on them either
and everyone playin her now cause BUFFS
life is pain

So, PC or PS4, what are you guys opinions

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>>169811760

I can only play waifus and my friend mains the fucker

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what does the little star near the name mean?

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Y'know what's bullshit?

>Lawbringer's Polearm shaft deals damage to enemies when you lightly poke them in the head with it
>But not when you brutally shove it into their stomachs and flip them over
>There are shafts that are clearly sharpened spikes but they don't deal any more damage either

>>169811924
PS4.
So that you don't get shitted on.

>>169811285
I've had almost the exact same kind of experience a few times now, if the maxed out revenge gain retardation gets anymore widespread than it's already starting to, I legitimately fear for player retention. There's nothing you can do against that kind of crap, you're just fighting someone who can effectively never die, does more damage, has infinite stamina, it's insane how this made it through in the state it's in.

>>169811876
You either have <1 hour played or are PKIDF

>>169811750
if you do an attack before the unblockable it takes half their health

>>169811889
Not to mention her two unblockables in a row that you can't do anything about, as one hits you the other one definitely will. You get knocked down and she does it all over again until she runs out of stamina. GB? Too bad, fucker, GB is easy to break out of now so you can't punish her for using up all her stamina.

>>169811964
It also has less range than others despite being a seven foot pole.

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>>169808937
>When their buddy comes in and gives you revenge.

>>169811948
It means unique/special/super rare/whatever. You can show off with it.

>>169811948
it's like a unique shit or somethnng

>>169811980
and you're just plain bad

>be law
>slowly approaching roach at the start of duel
>he thinks you can't do anything to him since you're such a terrible character
>attacks you
>parry every one of his attacks
>get him to 1/4 health without being hit yourself
>he's terrified
>backing up in panic, trying to figure out what to do
>attacks you out of fear

Nothing is more amusing than this

>>169812147
>relies an overpowered shitter hero
>calling anyone bad
PKIDF raus

>>169811996
Yeah and if that attack is anything but a light you're going to be out of stamina from feinting it and if they don't fall for the feint or dodge then good luck following up laddie

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>tfw still no For Honor SFM porn

>>169812083
That's Scott Steiner you dummy.

Can someone write the Scott Steiner math promo with Warlord as Samoa Joe

>>169811948
>22k salvage
>all those unique purps
Maybe I shouldnt have stopped at rep 3.

>>169812081
>You get knocked down and she does it all over again until she runs out of stamina.
Please tell me you're not talking about bash > sweep > top heavy > bash, because thats not an actual combo.

>GB? Too bad, fucker, GB is easy to break out of now so you can't punish her for using up all her stamina.
Literally nothing changed about GB to make it easier to break out of save for making ONE specific interaction techable. Go read the patch notes.

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>>169812227
SFM porn sucks 99 times out of 100.

>>169812227
Give it time.

So this game is basically just world of warcraft PvP?

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Fuck honor. Enviro-kill everyone, lest you be enviro-killed yourself.

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>>169811945
I want to abuse a masochistic Sakura.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywiqxjE9rQI&feature=youtu.be&t=1983

Reminder that they are most likly going to buff lawbringer, but they STILL can;t figure out how to do it.


Its understandable though, he really needs small tweak, nothing crazy.

Maybe one of the following:
>A passive that made it so he could switch stances while being hit by a chain more easily.

>increased tracking of Long arm with reduced recovery afterwards (to get a heavy)

>Faster lights/heavys/chains, more damage on lights

>>169807552
Doesn't matter unless you play Nobushi. Then kb+m is far superior for hidden stance.

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>>169812203
>PK overpowered

keep crying mate

>>169812257
none of those things are useful

>>169811319
It is.
>doesn't understand the basic gameplay, stamina, blocking, whatever
>probably skipped the story
>go in a rant about how everyone mash buttons while mashing himself
>gank a guy, boast about it
>get ganked "waaa so unfair"
>calls an afk guy "a moron"
>get rekt by a level 1 bot
>rant for half the video about how that game sucks

>>169812227
I look forward to the PK spanking.

>>169812216
yea its not guaranteed but its still the best mixup in the game. the stamina will almost be out but it wont entirely be out and once you get that damage thats all you need.

>>169812396
>they STILL can;t figure out how to do it.
Faster attacks and more stamina. THAT'S IT.

Do they even play their fucking game?

>>169811651
PK fucking obviously, full block stance is the only thing that really counters her 50/50 zone entry. She will have only advantegous matchups if you remove warlord.

>>169812434
>t.pissshiter

>>169812524
there is a lot of risk in that as well

as well as making him OP in other modes then duel

>>169812396
Slightly faster.
Better range.
More stamina.
Super armour on some moves, specifically heavy combo finishers.

That's all he needs. There's absolutely no reason why a guy in leather gets super armour while a guy in full fucking plate can get bopped on the forehead to stop him swinging his massive poleaxe.

>>169812592
Lawbringer/Raider-level slowness is past the threshold of viability for this game.