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early july edition

previous thread >>169758785

2.6 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1839765

>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
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Burning arrow Chieftain with avatar of fire and iron grip

Y/N?
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OH BOY NEW LEAGUE TIME
>EQ nerfed
>Cyclone Nerf
>Anything with AoE nerfed
>Maybe I should try King of The Forest Build
>RoTC nerfed
>Drillneck Nerfed
>Death's Opus is going to high as fuck due to being the only late game option
All my starting option nerfe, what I do now?
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To the anon considering making a edge of madness + retch build:
The retch's damage is considered reflect damage and as such is not affected by modifiers
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FINAL

http://www.strawpoll.me/12441897

POLL

http://www.strawpoll.me/12441897

BEFORE

http://www.strawpoll.me/12441897

LEAGUE
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>>169791701
elementalist is better
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what is some ethical pizza to eat for the new league?
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How much better do you think the claw nodes will be?
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original sprinkler build critique thread
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>>169759442
>free
>>169766287
>free
>>169780014
>free
>>169790420
>free
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do i have permission to use dominating blow?
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>>169791838

My biggest issue with the game is seeing other people in town causing me to disconnect because of all the stalling the game does to try and load it

I can start in self found, then move to the league once i've gotten my zana and be permanently inside my hideout.
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>me every league
>take an unused skill or idea
>make a working viable build for high level maps from the ground up
>learn a lot along the way
>enjoy cheap underused gear that fits my purpose

>majority of players every league
>wait for a consensus opinion and build guild to be told what to do
>learn nothing
>pay full price for expensive gear everyone wants

why are you such shitters
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>100% cold SwT with more damage and AoE

interesting.
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in 3.0 regular flameblast will be nerfed because of all the totem shitters, won't it
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>>169791898
wow guys i reached like 100k dps
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gotta drop a big ol' fReE for my main guy freeposter
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>>169792014

So where's that high level elemental hit build?
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Doon Cuebiyari + Geofri's Sanctuary High Str spell build?
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Reminder that Hardcore, at last, died.

Do not play Hardcore.
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>>169791765
>check notes
>ctrl+f "cyclone"
>no results
:^)
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its because SC is where all of the real life money is at

I made enough to eat pizza every day last month lol my mom was impressed even
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>>169792406
>He doesn't know
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>mfw build remained untouched by the tide of nerfs because it is ethical
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>>169792406
enjoy your melee range cyclone
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when the new, 2.6.0. tree will be released.
>i like planning better then playing
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me too c:
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>>169792621
tomorrow
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>>169792604
My build only got buffs. 10+ passive points freed and can replace my entire reason for Jugg ascendancy with Kaom Roots.
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdGDTufrzetG-03Q4UO20ru8n3Y6FG80EfN6z1DfC9KFYw4Cg/viewanalytics

PRESS

F

FOR

HARDCORE
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THYE GOING TO PUT ZO

I NEED TIO KNOW NOWW REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169791838
reddit's comparatively a lot more plebeian
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>only me playing HC in general
>only 1 month from now too because release from military then
Wew lads, at least we got each other to shitpost in game.
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>>169792984
see >>169792341
>>169791838

/poeg/ is also full SC
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>>169792906
20% of the playerbase in hardcore sounds about right. This has been the ratio for a long time now.
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>>169792906
>>169792341
we are literally plebbit now

i hope you cunts are happy

and by that i mean i fucking hope you're not happy you pathetic scrubcore shitters
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Who else is starting earthquake for the fifth league in a row?
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>>169791701
Gotta go crit for those fat ignites.
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>>169792509
>>169792605
>aoe nerfs
>also specifies cyclone nerf
:^)
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>>169793062

>Alt+F4ing at any risk of death

Which is the real scrubcore?
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>>169793214
not going sunder..
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>>169793214
jugg eq here
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So this is cancerous piece of shit is going to be the indisputable top of the meta build once again in 2.6 right? a lot of good builds were nuked while HoWaA was not only spared any nerfs but actually BUFFED by Soul Raker's new crit and leech cluster

GGG's balance team in action, gentlemen
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>>169793284
>not using the script
Spotted the scrub.
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>egocorers on sue of sigh watch
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>>169792031
I got to like 70k ST or 180k Cyclone
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>>169793368
It is future once double dipping is kill.
Probably the strongest non double dipping build
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>>169793368
i am going to try a howa build out with the sprinkler
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Do you get souls towards vaal gems if your totem kills something?
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>>169793368
yeah but what actual useful melee attacks exist for it now?
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>no nerfs to my LL SRS Necromancer
das
it
MANE
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>>169793525
Blade Flurry got a slap on the wrist, 15% reduced damage on something that outdamaged everything else by a factor of 2 or 3? Spooky Toss is still a strong alternative too. More importantly, you could make default attack work if you stacked 1k INT and 2x HoWaA. The claw is that stupid and STILL not nerfed in any significant way.
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>>169792242
Not that guy but there's always a bunch of non meta things you can do that doesn't cost shit but is pretty good.

I did wither cwc firestorm chaos conversion and it cost me like 20c for the required uniques and like 30c for the essence to make a chaos leech neck. Rest of the gear was standard shit I came by just playing the game.
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>>169793640
Go on then, make a default attack build and show us the deeps
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>>169793516
Yes. Gaining vaal souls doesn't require you to get the killing blow in any way, just requires proximity.
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>>169793623
>no nerfs
>nerfs to aura aoe
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hardcucks on suicide watch
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>>169793623
Auras radius was hit pretty harshly, how is that not a nerf to SRS?
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Any lightning to fire conversation in game?
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>>169793849
Avatar of Fire
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>>169793849
Call of the brother hood ring then Cold to heat gem
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>AoE nerfed into oblivion
>RotC nerfed into oblivion
>1h meta
>Gladiator meta
>Siosa sells all skill gems
>new uniques balance
>new Zana mods
dis going be a good league
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>>169793836
>>169793764
>implying that fucking matters at all
you guys are honestly massive children when it comes to these radius """""""""nerfs""""""""

for srs the aura radius is what, 1.5 screens instead of 2? wow ;_;
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12409349 poeg unique
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>>169791765
Edge of Madness Spectral Throw.
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>>169794196
>1h buffs
>Dreamfeather got added flat dmg
>bows gutted
>aoe gutted
>only viable skill is ST
More like Flaskfinder Dreamfeather meta.
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>>169794240
too generic and no alt+f4 joke kills it
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SRS was buffed with
- Melee Splash radius, undeniably bigger now, you never used Inc AoE on SRS obviously
- unset rings can roll +3 skill gem, could be good for a single aura or golem

SRS was nerfed with
- slight AoE nerf
- significant VHaste nerf

All in all should still remain t1 build (because it is ethical)
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>>169793214
Probably doing Sunder/Cleave for clear/burst if I don't play Ranger or Shadow initially, really racking my head to figure the optimal one
>Assassin VS at the end of the day lacks clear speed
>Raider ele immunity and dodge w/ frenzy charges
>Slayer bleed immunity, antireflect, overleech, stun immunity, endurance charges

Gladiator Varunastra or Slayer WoE top contenders, have to see where I'll reach the bottleneck of dps without crit in Blade Fury stats.
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>mfw called for an animate meme hard cap last league
>mfw GGG listened
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>ywn be this ethical
https://youtu.be/q3QloLErnuw?t=144
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Been playing D3 in hardcore mode exclusively, someone recommended me PoE a while back, but I never really downloaded it until now.

D3 is fairly straighforward with builds, you pick a class, pick abilities that seem useful and in the endgame, you just make builds around the legendaries + sets you get.

However, I'm at the character creation screen in PoE and I have no fucking clue what to pick, and where to go from there.

Would you mind giving a newfag the basic gestalt?
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>>169794497
Summoner in general is 100% ethical (I question animate meme though)

So ethical I don't care about VHaste nerf.

Makes me wonder if a full zombie build is any good now or if their AI is still too shit.
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>>169794749
Watch this if you're serious about committing to the game for more than 2 hours
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7GqFLebBU8inlrcqTZFXtIwP362XrdNe

Bookmark the wiki

Pick a class that sounds appealing and keep it simple (e.g. if you pick a Witch, go spells, if you pick a Duelist, go melee, etc.)

Bookmark the wiki

Your first few builds will suck donkey dick, no way around this, you can look for beginner's guides on the forums or wing it out, you'll suck and fail either way so play softcore at first

Bookmark the wiki

Get the fuck out of our general
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>>169794749
go to the ggg forums
go into a class sub-forum
find a guide for a starter build that isn't uses health, not energy shield
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>>169794749

Just play and learn as you play.

Being told what to do strips all the fucking fun and point.
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I wish the tree would come out already so I could plan around the fatal blade changes
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>>169794749
well you have 2 choices, you either dig into shitty forum builds or you throw your characters at malachai until you git gud
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Can a viable poison build be made with berserker or do I have to roll assassin?
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>>169794749
>diablo babby

fuck off you are going to cry "MUH GRUFIXS" "MUH MINIMAP" "MUH BLIZZARD FANSYNDROME" after 2 hours anyways, this game is too hard and too complex for mentally retarded faggots like you.

Now fuck off back to your dying dumpster garbage game.
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>>169794906
>Your first few builds will suck donkey dick, no way around this, you can look for beginner's guides on the forums or wing it out, you'll suck and fail either way so play softcore at first

no, this is not a mechanically difficult game. if you follow a guide to the letter you'll do fine. if you're trying to make your own build without any game knowlege you'll probably be doing shit damage and have a miserable time. very simple
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>>169795039
Berserker BV was meta last league, Assassin is comparable but probably much more restrictive in terms of build options unless you go crit daggers
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>>169795097
>BV
I was trying to come up with something for the new edge of madness though
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>>169795050
>muh intellectuality
>too complex for you
kys
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>STILL no new tree
Can't the niggers just send us the API so we can use the offline tree already?
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>>169794954
>Being told what to do strips all the fucking fun and point.

the point is to learn the game you ingrate. if you don't have any understanding of game mechanics or how to use the tree you're just guessing. if you want to get to a point where you can make your own builds faster, use a guide and learn from it
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>>169795062
>no, this is not a mechanically difficult game.
There is some level of depth to game mechanics, not everything is intuitive, and there are no universal tooltip to tell you when a piece of gear is better than another when it comes ot uniques for example

>if you follow a guide to the letter you'll do fine.
Sure, to an extent, a noobie will fail 20 time before they reach Malachai even assuming someone is holding their hand and allocating their passives one by one.
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Welcome to the project
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>>169795039
Kripparino's got you covered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ZJtDxUe8w
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>>169795215
>Can't the niggers just send us the API so we can use the offline tree already?
Uhm, you won't be able to use it until it's updated DUH
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Did projectPT actually stop streaming on twitch and now streams WoW on youtube?

Does the guy ACTUALLY have a mental illness? Like who the fuck would kill his sole income?
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>>169795574
pls be bait
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>>169794779

I never liked summons in PoE, but I do like them more in Grim Dawn, probably because you can attach auto-skills to them through the Divinity system.

When can we get something like that in PoE?
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>>169795729
He's a professor not a full-time streamer cuck
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>>169795729
he can't stream wow on private server on twitch

He will crawl back to poe soon
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>>169795896
got a PhD in whining or what?
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>>169795896
>professor
Yeah maybe for magic card studies
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>mfw my BF Posion Gladi remains alive
Although those buffed uniques make me wanna use them i fear i'll have problems with resistances so,if you had to choose between nu-Cherrubim's or nu-Ming's which one would you choose?
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>incin > faster proj > controlled destruction > elemental focus > life leech > fire pen
>AA > blasphemy + enfeeble + temp chains
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>>169795729
Doesn't Mors do it as well, like he didn't quit poe completely but he does play private servers not on twitch
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>>169794749
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>>169795954
>>169795972
PT is likely more smart than you
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Does catposter have a stream?
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>>169796061
yeah maybe, his builds are pretty shit and he makes questionable decisions that "smart people" wont do, but yeah he might be "smarter" than me.

Doesnt change the fact that he is a retard, has legit autism or some other social-related mental illness and is just the biggest shitter on earth.
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>>169796219
Point where PT touched you
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>>169794779
It has damage sure just like SRS but the there are no news about AI changes so they are both still shit.
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Is there any way to make a decent non-crit Burning Arrow build i.e. igniting without critting?

I hear so much hype over it for this patch yet from what I've heard it has always been shit and I'm having trouble finding out what will be so good about it this league.
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Can anyone explain the changes to BV?
Did they actually just reduce it's damage to 1/20 or am I missing something?
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List of trash-turned-gold uniques in 2.6:

Redblade Banner
Mutewind Pennant:
Broken Faith
Gifts from Above
Edge of Madness
Brutus' Lead Sprinkler
Geofri's Sanctuary
Marylene's Fallacy:
Cherrubim's Maleficence
Mon'tregul's Grasp
Ascent from Flesh
Shaper's Touch
Terminus Est
Kaom's Roots
Carnage Heart
Victario's Influence
Daresso's Courage
Nycta's Lantern
The Covenant
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>>169795446
I can't take someone who genuinely believes they're getting sniped every round in a children's card game seriously.
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>>169796345
>SRS
>Shit
yes, anon, it's terrible. please complain to ggg and rebbit for it to be buffed.
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>>169795446
God I fucking hate how he played for like 3 days and the only thing he did that was hard is abused a fucking Tora mission inside a guardian boss room to prove his build worked

Any build where you have abyssal cry and some AoE skill works it's not hard
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>RF doesn't need any AoE nodes now
Well, off i go. Gotta get my hands on that legacy Kaom though.
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>>169796482
>Not ES RF
noob
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>>169796459
the AI is fucking shit you can't deny that.
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>>169796404
ALL Blade Vortex blades now share the same instance. You can no longer have a secondary or tertiary setup for CoH, PCoC, cast on ignite, etc. If you cast BV, it will count as if all blades were cast with that BV setup. This also fixed the bug that made stacking 20 blades twice possible.
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If you like kripparian is strongly suggest committing suicide IRL very soon.
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>>169796521
Why and with what? Isn't SR garbo. RF is pretty garbage too.
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>>169796558
rip the kripp
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>>169796030
2 guaranteed things in life:
death and taxes
catshitter builds will always be unironically pants on head retarded
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>>169796521
>Not having 90% phys reduction, chill\freeze immunity, 5k+ life regen with bonus life leech.
Keep ES for yourself.
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>>169796693
>5k+ life regen
How do you get 50% life regen?
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>>169796558
don't really care what you suggest to be perfectly honest.
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Is there any way to deliver strong chaos damage that isn't poison based?
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Is Inquisitor ele bow build possible

hit me up with a build poh-gee
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>>169796856
Added Chaos
Is there any way your question could be any vaguer?
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>>169796913
I said strong
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>>169796856
essence drain
blight
chaos golems
xDDD
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>>169796861
Doomfletch Prism inquis is insane but also very expensive
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>>169796763
With regular Kaom it will be 12k hp and 4,8k regen
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>>169796856
retch
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>>169796660
it's a good SSF HC build though
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free
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free
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free
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>>169797073
where's all the regen
coming from tho?
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>>169797073
Again, how? this better not be calculation with consecrated ground or 10 endurance charges and kaom's ways
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chaos crit sunder varunastra assassin?
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>>169797303
kys
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>>169797269
>10 endurance charges and kaom's ways

I dunno why wouldn't you count that. That's as easy to keep up as passive nodes.
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Always played HC.

Should i switch to SC? How much more longevity do the SC leagues have?
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With Geofri's and Shaper's Touch, every 10 STR now gives

5 life
4 energy shield
5 mana
2% es

Is it me or does that sound retardedly strong? Stack STR and you now have life, mana, energy shield scaling all at once. Hybrid MoM builds new meta?
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>>169797269
It is. I just wanted to do something with max endurance charges. I tested RF Jugg with death's door, corrupted life belt and 2xkaom's ways(12 charges) on standart, but since they added all what i needed from jugg tree to kaom's roots - i'll go Chieftain and achieve me some bonus life leech from scorching ray/cwc/molten shell..
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>>169797598
my iron will whispering zerker is even better now
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>>169795983
nucherru since it actually has pretty decent stats otherwise
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>>169797073
kek

Can you send the tree?
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>>169796360
It was possible before conflux got nerfed but nowadays you need to get so many fucking uniques to have a decent chance of igniting and even then you end up with like 20% of a crit build's ignite damage it's just sad.
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>>169797073
link for the new offline planner?
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>>169797575
don't let these faggots meme you you can still delete your chars if you play sc and die
and the market tends to be a lot better for a longer while
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>>169796030
Good to see you've come to understand the power of Alchemist :^)
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>>169797389
sure, but only on the cheek
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>>169797598
is that base es or can it not be scaled?
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This thread is now under SC bull control.
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>>169797598
Prepare for insane Scepter MoMbuilds
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So, i'm a fairly new player and this league i wanna start out right and make some dough. What's a good build to farm shit? What's the best way? Stack IIR and IIQ, farm merc dried lake or maps?
Also, if i start with a cheap build for farming, do i just respec that character into a stronger build for endgame or do i just make a new character with a stronger build?
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>>169797645
That's a lot of gear you won't get until 2 weeks into the league. Sounds a good idea for a second character, not a league starter.
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Why does Coke lose the gas so quickly? how am I supposed to store it for 2+ days if it loses the gas on the second day?
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HC dies after a few weeks because people lose motivation to keep rerolling
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>>169796360
i did elemental overload xoph's nurture burning arrow in breach, it's nice for mapping but there's not enough damage for guardians/shaper
and you only need the helmet enchant for acceptable ignite chance, unlike what >>169797830 says
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>1H weapons buffed
>Wildstrike buffed
>wildstrike triggers all 3 elemental penetrations from MoD
>MoM buffed
Prepare for MaceMoMs everywhere, witches raining from the sky to rain elemental chaos upon their enemies.
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>>169798118
Co2 is lost faster in the cold

Store it at room temperature
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>>169797989
It's base ES. The only thing a lot of people get stuck on is the mana as ES thing, which just adds % mana and % ES together at the end. There's no source of flat ES in the game that isn't scaled.
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>>169798020
Make a strong map farmer and run maps fast, or sell boss kills, or run labs, or farm low tier maps for essences, talismans, etc. There are as many ways of making money as you can imagine, so long as you're efficient. IIR/IIQ is not worth it unless you can't stack a lot of them and be really fast in Dried Lake.

You can either make a dedicated farmer and fund a stronger build or respec down the road, depends on your base class and ascendancy. Witch and Templar got pretty versatile ascendancies for example, you can easily start as Necro and respec to Occultist later when you make the CI switch.
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What are some /poeg/ approved c91 doujins
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Which of these would be most fun for SSFHC in 2.6?

>fire nova miner
>righteous fire totems
>lightning trapper
>EDCorruption
>Golemancer
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>>169798373
>SSFHC
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>>169798213
the solubility of co2 in soda is higher at cold temperatures
chill your soda before you open it
don't buy soda in plastic bottles since the plastic is gas-permeable so they lose carbonation slowly over time
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>>169798313
>c91
>when StudioFOW is releasing a kino masterpiece today
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>>169798418
don't reply to me if you're a shitcrow, thanks
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>>169798032
Everything, except Kaom's Heart, is cheap though. No big investment needed for it to work, plenty to perfect.
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>>169797723
Yeah,i was leaning towards that since a rare ring can offer much more.Thanks for the input though.
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>>169798373
i'm going to do pizza totems for SSFHC, looks fun
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>>169798373
RF totems
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>>169798213
>coke at room temperature
But it's only good freezing cold
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>can you guess what i think is fun

no i cannot, besides sucking cock.
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>>169797073
That's RF damage on Shaper with Witchfire and Consecrated flask btw.
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NEW SKILLTREE LEAK WHEN
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why don't breachstones in standard open up in the breach league?
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stupid poetards
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>>169798846
Bex feet leak when?
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>>169799029
>implying bex isn't a fattie
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>>169798792
Store them in room temp,chill them an hour or so before drinking,was it so hard?
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>tfw still doing jugg even with new kaoms roots
can't stop the train, hell, I'm even still taking that node and not using kaoms roots for the movespeed bonus from the node.
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alchemist is worth 3 points, not 4 or 5

do the math idiots

all questions can be answered with math
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>>169798842
what is the program in pic ?
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>>169799478
reddit tree builder
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Are Remote Mine Support or Trap Support useful for anything?
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>>169799565
>Trap
Good porn desu.
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my hobby:
>check nerfed builds in patch notes (example: rotc)
>go to the respective guides on the forums
>bathe in the tears
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If you don't play SSFHC and only melee builds, you need to get the FUCK out of my thread.
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Model/voice swap when so i can turn marauder into a ranger when
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is witch the cutest class
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>>169799906
damn that would be so progressive as well
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>>169799672
>rotc
Thank god i decided to roll one this league,kept postponing and i'd be livid if i hadn't tried it before these nerfs.Just how i'm disappointed i never got to do a full AoE Satellite lazors build.
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>>169799891
Is Blade Vortex melee? SSFHC
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what are ethical locations to erp in?
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>>169799909
no scion is best girl.
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>>169799981
library
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>>169799549
you mean the one from github? I have that but it has none of this options
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>>169799981
hideout
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>>169800047
click configuration.
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>>169799981
in normal lioneye's watch with a ssfhc meleechad
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they should add a feature that allows you to use microphone while trading for negotiating purposes
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What's the most tooltip dps anyone has had on Ngamahu's Flame's proc?

I recall having something like 6-7k when I did it early into league with shit gear.

I just came up with a tree that looks solid on all stats and has 32k
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>>169800039
>no scion is best girl.
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>>169800241
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>tfw too retarded to make a decent wild strike build
I couldn't pass 200k dps (pre buff, but it's shit anyway)
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>>169799891
your play style is autistic fuck off grandpa
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>>169800241
I agree
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How am I supposed to cyclone my way through this league now
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>>169799909
i go out of my way to have rat's nest equipped because it makes her a cute little loli
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reminder to all SSF HC players

we're going to destroy 820 this league with an endless stream of memes
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Will Dyadus wild strike meme be possible now?
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>Zana's mods changed to tailor for Legacy gameplay
>Standard's crying their normal Zana mods just got trashed for no reason for 3 months
LOL GGG just can't stop bending Standard over and going in dry
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>>169800883
It is fucking obvious that thi league is replacing zana mods in core game
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>>169800516
just imagine, you'd have to verbally reason with someone when they ask why wouldn't you part with your shit item for couple c less
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How's this for Voltaxic Barrage
http://poeurl.com/4Zh

Planning on using Rigwalds Quills, Snakebite and triple Volley Fire (with the new changes they don't need allocated stats)
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>>169801041
>An keep hours trading earing neckbeards whispering dorito's to your ears...

No thanks.
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>>169800727
haha upvoted xD
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>>169801095
Could you repeat that in English?
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>>169801041
like 3/4ths of the people I've traded with weren't even english.
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>>169801279
եթե օգտագործվում է թարգմանիչ այս ԲԵԼԱՌՈՒՍ դու մինետ ուշացնել
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>>169801060
>Voltaxic
Why?
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>going ssf
>cant even sell your items for robitussin

why?
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>>169800727
that sounds pretty fun desu
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>>169801441
less reflect damage taken and shock chance

I dont know if another bow would be better
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>>169801559
It puts people who want another level of separation in this single player mmo at a higher status than regular people.
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>>169801628
in this league i'd be more scared of bloodline packs, reflect is usually a non issue if you have leech and hit multiple times instead of one big time.
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>mfw i just realized that Legacy shining effect is pretty much the same glow you got from sets in D2
Fuckin' GGG,so original once again.
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any sprinklerfags wanna exchange trees?

110pts and 422str is best i can do

taking into account gear and ascendencies that brings me very close to 1k str, which seems to be the minimum we will need to do decent dmg
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>>169801628
I'm not sure I'm understanding your build idea, is this not Barrage for both single target and AoE clear? How does Voltaxic help you compared to Death's Opus (+2 arrows, +150 crit mult) or just a regular flat chaos Harbinger?

Malicious Req. Lv. 83 Adds (47-72) to (98-123) Chaos Damage
(72+123)/2 = 97.5 average for top roll

Voltaxic Adds 1 to (275-325) Lightning Damage
60% conversion
(1+325)/2*0.6 = 97.8 average for top roll

Death's Opus is a heap prophecy farmable bow, while a generic blue 6l Harbinger can be alt spammed for Malicious, what does Voltaxic give you? Shock is irrelevant for such small Barrage hits
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>>169801893
>>169802058
Doing a Death's Opus version now and it seems better

Blast Rain for single target
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>>169801618
it is
>>169801145
fuck off

we already destroyed 5055
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Reminder to update your SSF filter to chance all the new good uniques
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just gonna wait for neversink to do it for me
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neversink's a casual, his filter is not prepared for the harsh world of SSF where skyforth and heretic's veil are irrelevant
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I use neversink as a template and then change everything
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>newshits start to play ssf only now that they got GGGs approval
>now when the true god of ssf is gone for good and won't be coming back
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poetards on suicide watch
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>>169802296
>chance
>uniques
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recognition is not approval
not giving a (You) to such a retarded bait
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>>169802705
>"great soundtrack" as a tag
kek
KEK
K E K
OH YEA BOI IM GONNA BUY THAT GAME FOR THE SWEET SOUNDTRACK
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Hey geekboy, why don't I see your name on the SSFHC ladder?
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>>169802724
most of the buffs aren't t1 or even t2 uniques, and the lower the rarity of a unique the higher chance of chancing it.
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I wish karv was my bf
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>>169802775
also it's subjective as fuck.

>>169802802
g3 is better than you two sluts tbqh
walk by as they're stunned
nothing personnel
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>>169802802
*chenches fists*
better let me through... or else...
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>aoe nerfs
>poison nerfs
>flurry nerfs

shitbabbs eternally btfo
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>mfw there's a single unique that went from trash to literal end game shaper's realm viable tier with 2.6
>mfw poeg hasn't mentioned it yet in over 750 posts
plebs, the bunch of you
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>>169803074
lets cut out the bullshit and tell us what it is then
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>>169802802
*blocks your path*
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>poison nerf
but poison was untouched you fucking mouthbreathing retard
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>>169803074
post it so we can laugh at you
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>>169803110
>>169803195
read the patch notes, it's all there, not spoonfeeding illiterates
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>>169792242
>unused skill or idea
>CwC Wither Firestorm Chaos conversion
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>>169803269
you're full of shit
fuck outta here
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>>169803269
this is the exact bullshit i wanted to cut.
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>>169803354
>>169803365
hint: the level req of the unique is below 50

not saying any more, if you can't use your head and have to wait for others to explain to you why a unique is good, then you don't deserve to play this game
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>Siosa now sells all quest gems once you've completed his quest and the quests required to unlock the appropriate tiers of gem rewards

greatest thing since sliced bread right there

god knows why it took them 3 years to fix it
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>>169803472
if you are talking about brutus sprinkler: it was already mentioned.
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>>169803074
>single
there were a couple. Almost none of them are ones that poeg is mentioning though. They aren't really paying any attention to the ones that don't have new mods which is a mistake. That or they are and nobody is saying it out loud to keep the shitters from their build, which is a reasonable thing to do. Some of the items that just got value increases are now endgame viable because those increases patched glaring holes in their viability.
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>>169795167
Working on a Viper Strike Assassin. Tree will be revised once the new info is released, but I figure it will only get better due to improvements in sword nodes and life nodes in the ranger/shadow area.

Rough draft assumes average rolls across the board. Uniques are Edge of Madness, Cherrubim's Maleficence, Ming's Heart, and Growing Agony. Also assumed are a rustic sash and typical flat physical damage rolls on the neck and ring #2 (totally 18 - 35). Other slots and gear mods are not accounted for.

Links are Viper Strike, Added Chaos Damge, Void Manipulation, Melee Physical Damage, and Multistrike. All level 18, 0 quality.

Basic DPS (not counting critical hits, accuracy, and degeneration damage) assuming we have proced the Unholy Might from Growing Agony and the similar effect from Toxic Delivery is approximately 58600 at level 70, 65500 at level 80, and 72700 at level 90. Those lower level numbers will be a bit lower due to some damage nodes arriving late in the process, but for the sake of theorycrafting, you get the idea.

If I simulate the shift to two-handed weapons (+0.1 attacks per second, decrease in base damage assumed to retain the 1.2/1.3 proportion) the basic DPS at level 90 increases to 77600, and attacks per second increase to 4.186 from 3.864.

With a base poison duration of 8.4 seconds (or 10.8 if Noxious Strike procs) we can stack 35 (or 45) instances of VS poison on a target. Not counting crits, the poison should be doing upwards of 8200 per second per stack.

Bleed will be doing a paltry 630 per second. Double that once the target is maimed (about half a second into the fight).

As the last hurrah of poison/chaos double dipping, you could do a whole lot worse. We haven't factored in enemy defenses, but we also haven't accounted for Vulnerability yet. Bosses will melt.

This damage is single target, but there is still a 6th link free for Melee Splash. Or you could use your choice of Cyclone, Lacerate, or what have you for AOE'ing.
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am I cute
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>>169803720
you have bewitching eyes
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>>169803678
Problem with Multistrike... you are a still target and some of the hits going to be around useless trash mobs than the target.
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>>169803678
>life based shadow
How much percentage did you manage to scrape up?
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the only mtx i'd ever buy is the witch hat but that was a one-time only halloween mtx that i'll never be able to get
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>>169803154
*starts floating in the air with his eyes glowing red and spheres of dark energy resonating from his palms*
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So was the whole "AOE builds shouldn't have to feel like each inc aoe node is necessary" just a meme? I am looking at the calculator and the diminishing returns is barely noticeable.
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>>169803913
same here, pisses me off big time
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>>169803720
pretty cool mtx
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What time is the patch hitting?
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>>169803913
>>169804051
>tfw I have it
It's pretty good. Not a floppy witch hat, which I prefer. But very straight and long.

Only good on Witch (wow really?) looks shit on everyone else.
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Are prefixes and affixes weighted? As in, are some less likely to appear than others, or is it all RNG?
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>>169803563
tfw upto 442str on the tree with 110pts

that puts me in range of the 1k str mark with gear and ascendencies

it's gonna be a fun build tbqh
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>>169804216
Both.
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>>169804208
>not putting it on marauder with a tabula rasa, demigods and look like a fucking retard in town
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>>169804216
>Are prefixes and affixes weighted?
Obviously. How easy would it be to craft 3x t1s rares if they were equally weighted? Use your damn common sense
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>>169791874
Authentic Neapolitan pizza
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>>169804142
~10hrs
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>>169804389
I have actually done that but only for a short period. Novelty quickly wears off.
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Would a crit inquisitor earthquake work?
Would the initial hit proc the first part of the crit chance ascendancy then the aftershock get the multi?
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Scorching ray CwC firestorm with berserker damage and leech using VP.

Any inputs?
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>>169791897
Read the notes
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>SR is only good for CwC
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>>169792428
Fatass
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Canèt decide on:
- Summoner (SRS and/or zombies, spectre, etc.)
- something buffed this patch like ice crash
- HoWaA because I didnt try last league
- something I didnt play for a while like ice spear or any bow build really
fuck
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>>169792861
How are you freezing yourself?
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pretty sure non-CwC SR is Shaper viable
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>>169804623
you can put it on totems too.
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>>169804389
>implying a marauder needs anything other than himself in order to look like a retard
Fucking Karui shits.
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>>169804734
wild strike my man
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>>169804817
totems lock on a target like retards
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>>169804564
Yuuka is for the thinking men/SSFHC players.
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>>169804467
>>169804389
>that one huge asshole who sits in merc sarn 24/7
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>>169805052
kek always fucking hilarious.

full demigod set + size jewels?
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>>169804623
i am going to do the self cast yes

i will smuggle level 4 empower into new league yes
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>scorching pee
>not incinerate
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>>169794369
They're shit
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>patch notes are missing all the teased content
wonder what else is missing
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>>169804954
Do you want to play SSFHC together
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i dedicate this incinerate build to mithia
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>>169804554
It said they'd be better not by how much
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>>169804924
I've never even seen the skill in action. What are the the higlights? And is it good for starting? Causue usually melee suck for the first char, no?
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>>169796418
Broken faith and Marylenes Falacy are fucking huge.
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>>169805191
>incinerate
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>>169805191
>incinerate
It's not 1.3 anymore, bub
Incinerate's dead, bury it
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>>169805495
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>>169803904
130%, assuming a 7% jewel. Buffs to right-side life nodes will add another ~10%, but Ming's Heart cancels that out. Some optimization pending tree changes should make another 30% fairly trivial. Swapping Belly of the Beast in place of Cherrubim's isn't such a completely terrible damage loss. This is strictly proof of concept until the new tree is out.

>>169803806
Could go with Rapid Decay instead of Rapidstrike. Or if you need to swap on the fly for fights that demand a bit more mobility, Increased Duration to keep the DoT's rolling while you dodge mechanics.
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>>169805810
>130%
fucking hell pham, gonna need at least a relic kaom's to make it viable
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>>169805810
never use the inc dur gem always get dur from tree
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>>169805782
KEK
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>>169800727
They're just going to collectively /ignore you
You might even get muted by a mod or two
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>>169805191
>Incinerate-CwC-Spark
>Sire of Shards
We Touhou now.
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So you can drop trick to be abke yo use both melee and wand skills.

Offhand mellee wepon effects like bleed or curse on hit atill apply to wand skills.
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>>169805495
not enough life
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Do you think they should change the Scion's Ascendency and give it 3 unique ones like every other classes?

I get what they went for, but honestly Ascendant is fucking boring shit tbqh.
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>>169805782
good lord my sides
>>
I want to run a mine/trapper in legacy. I've never run one before and have a few questions for anyone who has.

1. Occultist with sunblast, or saboteur?

2. What's the best potential setup, bladefall traps, fire nova mines, or arc mines?
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>>169806156
They should have tweaked some of the numbers for 2.6 IMO.

There used to be some builds that were better as Scion but when the leech got gutted it basically killed that.

I like the idea of the Scion borrowing from other ascendencies, but they need to do a better job balancing them. They just gave her the nerf hammer then gave up.

Let's hope she gets some love in 3.0.
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>2 days til new league
>still haven't found a leveling buddy to support
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>>169806545
>being an aurabitch
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support my dick, faggot
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How much does whispering ice cost at the start of the league?

In the panda league they went for a chaos day 1. Just wondering if they went up because of how good channeling is.
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>>169806545
>he doesn't play SSF
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>>169806672
It's such a niche build it's going to be 1c again
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>>169806447
sunblast is a noobtrap, get a belt with some actual defenses on it instead. you don't need more damage

saboteur is also a noobtrap, worst ascension in the game with skills that are literally worse than basic skill tree passives

fire nova
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so the buff to melee weapons is only for leveling 1 hands with shit dps anyway ?

nice, cant wait to use those 1 handed maces
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2 more days until I completely cut off any player interaction and fully immerse myself in the true hardcore experience of SSF
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With skill tree changes and 1h buffs varunastra is literally going to be god
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>>169806626
>not leeching of some clearspeed faggot who dropped tens of exalts on his build with minimum investments
Get rich, make whatever build.
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Is there a countdown for the tree release?
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>>169806760
wtf you talking about nigga

you either go saboteur or sunblast + 2 cheap construction for traps
saboteur is also gives you a lot of trap cooldwon which is necessary if you use trap gem
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>>169806958
9 hours give or take
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>>169806987
have fun in softcore, kid
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>>169807069
with 80% of the playerbase with him.
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>>169806958
qt
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How many people do you think are going to go fire arrow elementalist thanks to that new jewel?
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>>169802003
That's why it's called Legacy you dumb shit
It's an intentional reference
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>>169807069
yeah because the difference between surviving in hc is the stats you get on your belt
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>>169807256
abnormally long neck
ewww
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>>169802775
I bought NieR solely based on the soundtrack. Draw your last pathetic card, atheist.
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>>169807360
It's for shoving cocks into
>>
Why aren't unique bows allowed to be good?
>>
Is there any reason to go juggernaut over slayer for an Earthquake build for 2.6?
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>>169807341
10-20% ele resist and an extra 5-10% max life is literally the difference between life and death
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>>169807469
You tell me.
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>>169807469
Our boy Alkaizer, the earthquake master, said Slayer is shit-tier compared to juggernaut.
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>>169806870
For sure. Hopefully being more readily available keeps the price under control. It started at around 50c - 1ex on Breach. Unless something new comes out, the item/tree buffs are just going to make it even more of an obvious choice for sword and board gladiators, which I expect to see an awful lot of, with Surrender, legacy Aegis, legacy BoR, and Red Nightmare floating around.
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I'm going to grab 5 aoe nodes
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>>169807569
if you get acuities sure
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>>169807562
If I could tell you, I wouldn't be asking.

>>169807569
what did he mean by this?
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>>169807603
i think the Aoe just from the tree will be strong enough and you wont need any aoe from gear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW6hSYP-jKY
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>>169807603
You're going to waste skill points
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Are there any ways to get permanent Onslaught outside of Perseverance + Champion?
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Chris personally e-mailed me to say that a secret reward for people getting 40 challenges as a Wild Strike Elementalist would be a qt Italian gf who knows how to cook.
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because everything is shit except lol legacy kaoms 14k hp builds memefurry poison crit double dips

I'd say if you're not going to play a lot to acquire crazy stuff this league its just not worth playing
most likely going to be a mess with multiple balance patches with the same old builds dominating and retards playing melee splash

have fun
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>league around the corner
>all the poogeese come migrating back
>remember all their shitty reaction images and personalities
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>>169807454
because it makes good rares obsolete
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>>169807776
I'd let her "cook" my sausage if you know what I mean
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>>169807869
>redditfrog
>in any position to judge others
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What's next for Kripp's poe career?
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>>169807869
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How does Marylene's Fallacy stack up with diamond flasks and overcapped crit?

For instance, if I have 95% chance to crit and equip Marylene's my chance to crit is now 0.6*95%, right? 57%. But what if my chance to crit exceeds but is capped by 95%?

And is diamond flask applied last, and consequently if my crit chance is 57% is my effective crit chance then 1-0.43^2, 81.51%?
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>>169807775
A flask
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>>169807569
before or after he saw new kaom boots?
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>>169808096
>hardcore kripp
>hot adult hardcore clips for you
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>169807671
>HC players
>Good
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>>169808096
I bet kripp is into BLACKED porn
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>>169808096
>>169808258
Yeah, I bet he's into that.
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>>169808096
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>>169808258
well it is the intelligent mans fetish
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>>169808315
SAUCE
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>>169808245
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On the subject of Kripp, he thought Shaper's Touch was OP before these buffs.

Seems like there is definitely a niche for some all-the-stats bullshit build that will become fotm.
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>>169807671
that death at 3:20 is golden
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>>169794196
>>Gladiator meta

what did he mean by this
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Redpill me on a zombie build
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Tfw you don't know what to build after all these changes
Tfw you were gonna do burning arrow but your new player friend said he wants to do that and you don't want to discourage him from playing more
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>>169807776
please post tree/equip. I'm >>169800525
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is it just me or does this look like the most boring league yet?

The best builds will be the same as now but the league will be filled with inferior niche builds that kinda work but are so much worse than the meta builds..... like you can't even compare them.
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>>169808601
imagine golem builds without primordial gems
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>>169807454
Because everybody and their dog was doing the exact same Voltaxic build for the longest time. Then Reach of the Council.

Also, Drillneck was just so much better than every other option short of a mirrored rare for 95% of builds that it was silly. Its nerf was overdue.

Legacy Reach was way too good, but its 2.5 form would probably be fine if double-dipping wasn't a thing. Tornado Shot dropping a dozen poison stacks per use with the damage double-dipping from top to bottom was almost as silly as Blade Vortex.
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>>169806760
>>169806987
So would something like Occultist/consuming dark/fire nova mine be the setup with the highest potential?
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Doesn't it seem like the only Zana mod remotely worth doing is Twinned bosses on specific maps?

On that note, which twinned map boss drops haven't been nerfed to holy fucking hell? I seem to recall Museum being absolutely dumpstered drops-wise.

Also, I didn't play much of Breach, do the goats in gorge still drop ridiculous loot or did they cotton on to that?
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>he isn't playing Vigilant Strike Juggernaut in 2.6

LMAO

have fun with your nerfed AoE
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>>169797645
post build
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>>169808695
>is it just me or does this look like the most boring league yet?
I think you're just retarded dude
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>>169808401
never forget
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>>169808695
Just ignore double dipping and it's fun
DD will be gone in 3.0, why not jump ahead of the gun and get experience building around something else early?
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>>169808821
Damn, I was looking forward to playing detonate dead in 3.0
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>>169808703
>Tornado Shot dropping a dozen poison stacks per use with the damage double-dipping from top to bottom was almost as silly as Blade Vortex.
How was this solved by nerfing Reach though? People will just do the damage thing with Opus now. With added crit.
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>>169808821
>DD will be gone in 3.0
what
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>>169808821
And they nerfed AoE so you're stuck with projectile builds....... Bows make the most boring builds desu. Explosive arrow would've been fun but with AoE nerf it's gone too
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>>169808904
Fuckin roasted.
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>>169808438
was kripp the most ethical streamer?
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>>169808958
>How was nerfing best option beneficial when you can fall back on second best option now?
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>>169808981
Double dip>>169808904

Fucking idiots
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>>169809083
pt and alk are the most ethical streamers
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>>169809131
Alk is great, PT is probably the worst PoE streamer.
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remove double dipping

remove vinktar

make poe great again
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>>169808804
how the fuck did that happen?
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>>169809131
will these two ever party together to prove this conspiracy theory wrong?
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>>169809176
DD
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>>169809061
I think how builds are very fun
How are they any less fun than spamming an AOE skill?
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>>169809174
remove all unique flasks
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>>169808601
Mon'tregul's Grasp, Beacon of Corruption. Everything else is extra. Maybe Broken Faith and Necromantic Aegis just for laughs. Why not have your super-charged zombies running around with Unholy Might all day long?
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>>169809196
How did double dipping kill him in this instance?
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>>169809131
what are the odds of PT crawling back for 3.0 like the little cuckboi he is?
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Post meta builds 2.6. Let's see if /poeg/ is ahead of the curve. I'll start
>Burning Arrow Elementalist
>HoWA
>
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>>169809176
Reflect used to be scarier
Diamond flasks used to be guaranteed crit
He crit reflected himself
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>>169809176
back in the day reflect was actually dangerous
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>>169809196
Pretty sure that was the HC character built as if he was playing SC, look at the flasks and reflect mob aura.
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>>169809334
Poison BF
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>>169809291
100%
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>>169809291
prolly high, why wouldnt he? even with his critique he still likes the game.
Hell, its because he loves the game so much that he's harsh on the criticism, reddit fails to understand that because its full of gold stars spoiled retards
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>>169809176
you have to go back
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>>169809334
ci pf bv
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>>169809442
He quit the game for no other reason than a kneejerk reaction and his "criticism" has never been founded on any logical basis but pathetic appeal to emotion and "muh pvp" "muh old school hardcore 30 minutes to clear a map" and so on

Lick your lips and tell us how his cock tastes like
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>>169809525
>he doesn't know
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>>169809442
hold on... you telling me the PT hate is a reddit thing? wait wait wait.... are you telling me it's not coincidence someone who actively criticizes GGG is hated by everyone in the subreddit?
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>>169809601
nobody likes PT here either
he's a full blown retard and a terrible player
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>>169809565
hello scrubcore reddit player (yes, I know, redundant)
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How good is the duskdawn staff? It looks good
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>>169809680
Not an argument
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>>169809565
what? he always said GGG shouldn't balance the game around pvp
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pt is our guy shitcrows, go back to mathil channel
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>>169809680
Shouldn't you be playing WoW on your vanilla server, cuckboi?
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>catshitter telling others to get out
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>>169809573
please lvl 3 enlighten
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>>169809746
sure thing bud
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>>169808958
Yeah, they're just treating the symptoms, rather than the problem. Reach and Opus are more or less interchangeable now, depending on if you want to focus on base damage or crit. And the underlying problem of double-dipping is still there.

I wonder if there will be a relic Reach. I'm inclined to think its too recent, but it was one of the big, iconic uniques from Prophecy, so there is a chance.
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mathil is a better player than ppt could ever hope to be
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>>169809830
BV was fixed
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Even Kripp is more relevant than PT for PoE at this point and you retards still keep talking about him, fucking brainlets
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>>169809904
PT is basically the jesus of PoE when you really think about it, he died for our sins but he will be reborn
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>>169809965
Fuck up, retard.
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quick reminder that mathil would never have left the twilight strand in hardcore, he became better in scrubcore by dying 1000000 times before he could decently do anything.

this is the guy who died to normal merveil when showing how good BV was despite his years of playing experience
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Anyone else really hyped for the aikatsu stars movie
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>>169809442
his criticism is always biased and retarded and he started playing vanilla wow like a bitch out of spite.
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I WANT ZE TREE, I want it now
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reminder that pt is the only reason we are getting ssf in 2.6

How many modes ggg added to the game thanks to your "relevant" favorite streamers?
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our guys: (updated for 2.6)
alkaizer
havoc
etup
bob
hans (retired)
kripp (retired)
hegemony

our girls:
esk
pressstarttopaws

reddit's guys:
mathil
ziggyd
raiz
projectpt (ragequit)
zeno (retired)
nugiyen
pohx

autists:
steelmage
karvarousku
mors
ghudda
bakedchicken (retired)
zizaran

irrelevant trash:
everyone not mentioned
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>>169810153
the second half of your post is true
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>>169809895
I wasn't exploiting it for an effective 20 link so I personally am not affected.
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first of all mathil played in hardcore at first, but later switched to softcore like every intelligent person would
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Interesring. If you put a wand/melee weapon in your off hand your face breakers gains its benefits.
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>>169810206
>pt complains about power creep
>ggg now nerfing double dipping and aoe
>pt plays ssf and quits the game
>ggg creates ssf league to try to lure him back

Is Cuck Wilson secretly tsundere for our guy?
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tfw bladefall traps still going to be strong.
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>>169809674
I liked him. He had good input.
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does anyone want to level together as soon as legacy starts on standard? or are any groups looking for more?
i want to stay up for a very long time and level relatively quickly
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>playing std instead of legacy temp
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not really

it takes intelligence to criticize the game in a meaningful way, just calling it shit and use buzzwords is catshitter tier, he built his entire persona around shitting on GGG despite profiting from the game that it just made him lose all credibility
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too vague
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>>169810153
>>169810624
t. never watched pt criticize the game
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>>169810294
Holy fuck
How did GGG not fix the fucking wand-dagger bug?
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why are you still shilling for a retard who ragequit and made a youtube drama video about it? tab back to wow, faglet
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>>169810792
why are you so against PT when you obviously never watched any of his streams? PT has been a thing in this general for years
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Reminder that hardcucks are a dying breed.
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I watched a few of his "criticism" videos, all it takes to gauge his obvious lack of intellect
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>>169810869
calling pt a retard has been a thing in this general for years
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>>169810720
Idk. How to expliot?
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>>169810942
t.redditor who found this place after 3.0 announcement
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>>169808096
what is the tag he selected there
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pt has been a nobody for years

he tried a small stint as full streamer once he started getting a little popular then quit 3 months later
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>>169811061
ranged mjolner with 6 link barrage is fun.
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>>169811087
you tell me
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>>169810294
>>169810720
please delete
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>all these uppity shitbirds smack talking players who are blatantly better than they are
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here's an idea: keep your retarded faggot mouth shut until you reach top 10 SSFHC

deal?
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>>169811154
If i use kinectic blast will this crash my computer?
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>>169811215
>i'm an even worse shitter than the biggest shitter (pt) therefore others must be as well
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>>169811215
PT haters/redditors/shitbirds will NEVER know this feel
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>>169811308
Yes
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>>169811282
well, that won't be too hard, being in the top 10 of 25 players.
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>>169811360
Good.
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projectpoopoo's "skill" as a player in a nutshell:
https://clips.twitch
.tv/projectpt/DoubtfulOxEagleEye
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>nerf AoE
>somehow this brings more versatility when one of the options is now retarded and has shit opportunity cost to anything else
Geez it's like power creep is bad because people watch mirror tier gear one shot Shaper with all penetration and more modifiers possible.

Balancing around with nerfs instead of buffs to make stuff more in line sure is smart
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don't reply to me again....
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Reddit is FURIOUS that vinktars hasn't been nerfed.

How do you feel about that flask? Is 20% leech balanced?
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>>169810892
Not after I breed ur boipussy
*undicks zip*
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>>169810892
only people who stating playing this year believe this

the demo spread has been known since at least 2014
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>>169811528
>Balancing around with nerfs instead of buffs to make stuff more in line sure is smart
Why are you still here and not playing D3?
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>>169811517
your point? proves nothing
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>>169811670
*teleports in front of you*
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>>169811528
>ignoring all the buffs in the patch notes
You AOE babies are obnoxious.
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>>169811592
unique flasks in general are pretty unbalanced
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>>169811810
>proves nothing
>dies to fucking hillock
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>>169811702
To see the day GGG realizes EK is utter shit and miles behind Bladefall so I can play my true ethical Shuriken mtx ninjaman that can no longer double dip his crispy chips into barbeque sauce.
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>>169811528
>nerfing aoe adds choice
the only choice it adds is deciding which MORE DAMAGE support to socket instead of inc AoE. It's a nerf, call it what it is GGG. AoE was one of the only things people would link instead of another MORE DAMAGE support because stacking AoE feels really amazing, but isn't directly a gain in power because all it does is allow you to deliver damage.
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>>169811953
yeah so what? does >>169811358 mean he's the best racer? no, retard, it doesn't work like that. get back to me once you become more intelligent
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>>169811592
Vinktars is fine
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>>169812076
>t. project pt
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>>169811810
point 1.1: the game needs not be balanced around someone who unironically dies to normal hillock

point 1.2: the game needs not be balanced around the perspective of someone who ironically dies to hillock to b omg so random and quirky xD for his twitch audience because the resulting perception is that everything he does or says is for views and drama like a good little cuck streamer
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>>169811592
Vinktar and Dying Sun need to be deleted from the game, so flask slut can have strong and interesting benefits beyond "Make OP flasks more OP" and AoE can be unnerfed.
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>>169812067
You're fucking dumb
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unique flasks were a mistake
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>>169812153
Your average PT hater, everyone
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>>169812258
I'd be inclined to agree tbqh
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>>169811918
>Reave 8 stacks utter shit
>Blade Flurry barely touched
>BV buffed
I'm aware of things and woke af, might play Inquisitor Stormcall and see how retarded are Varunastra and Surrender prices until I get them for a typical max block gladiator.
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>>169812249
>ad hominem
>total lack of any evidence or support for claim
ProjectPT fan detected
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>>169812292
He's right though.
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other items have to fit the specific builds

unique op flasks fit everything
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can someone explain why catshitter rides pt's cock so much? is it that he recognizes much of his faggotry and low intellect in him?
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>>169794369
I'd unironically use a few of the shitcrow-themed ones even though I'm a shitcrow.
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>>169812258
>you can only have one unique flask equipped
Fair and balanced?
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>>169812330
BV got nerfed because you can't have a 14L with it now.
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>>169812330
>wow AOE took a nerf what the fuck how am I supposed to play AOE now? All I can see is AOE!!!
Think outside the box you fucking idiot
You are so stupid
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>tfw to intelligent for non-melee builds
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>>169812392
He has no claim, just like you
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>>169812583
>>169812402
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>>169812067
Horrible interpretation, you can get more dmg/defense/utility passives provided they're in reach instead of AoE as well as some 'options' between gems like culling strike or fortify.
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>>169812693
????????
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>>169812153
One of two instances of fucking up either intentionally or unintentionally are not enough to discard anything he did. You're just the average retard trying to fit in with extreme opinionated posts
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>tfw to intelligent too play Wild Strike
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>>169810537
sorry i mean on leagacy temp
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>>169812783
>to intelligent too
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>>169812750
>having tunnelvision
No matter what people point out to you, you're always going to say "that's just one thing!!!"
Just read the thread, there are at least 10 things pointed out about how dumb PT is
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>>169811592
Vinktar is fine.
Increased charges taken means that only Pathfinder can realistically keep them up vs shaper/guardians/uber, and that usually requires 2 vinktars.
Then you also need some form of shock immunity unless you want to kill yourself with them.
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>>169812843
>pt is retarded
>pt died to hillock
>pt had no points (provides zero counter points)
>pt just presented opinions (presents only opinions back)

retard
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>>169812750
>It doesn't count under my alternative interpretation of reality
projectretard has never been anything more than an entertainer. his niche was "GGG wrong. me edgy and old school." it's like mors, except with less credibility, and more bias. you can be a clown, or you can be give legitimate feedback, it is clear which side he chose.
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>>169812950
I know you are, but what am i?
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>>169794369
That marble amulet would be headhunter tier, and the wolf pelt is probably even better than that because you put reduced damage instead of less.
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>>169812950
forgot your cat picture
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>>169812812
excuse me but tier 2 bait shitposts are unethical
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>>169812970
He said the game used to be much harder which is a fact, he also used to say the game is full of power creep which is another fact since 2.0, if you think any of those two claims are false you're just delusional there's no way around it really
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>>169797645
>not going EE
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>>169812530
Non issue with duration double dipping shenanigans in 2.6
>>169812534
I'm saying that AoE changes are retarded when a big chunk of skill tree is left unused no matter what.
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>>169813125
would you think of me as a scientific authority if i were to tell you that water is wet and the sun is hot? because that's what is happening with PT
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memes aside wild strike might be good now

go crit elementalist EB/GR/VP/MoM with tri-curse + EE
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>>169813302
My only problem with the criticism against him is that people just say he bashed GGG without any input which is false, in all of the "Rant" videos he tried to give a solution, and when saying GGG was wrong, was he wrong? did GGG do anything to combat power creep recently? we're only NOW seeing some changes
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FUCK GGG
I'm playing cyclone this league
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Does any of the parts in Commander of Darkness stack? Or is it if you have an aura, you get the benefit of them?
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Currently palying D2 while waiting for friday, does anything come close in poe to feeling like you're playing:
- Trapsin
- Psnnecro
- Frozen Orb sorc
?
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>>169813441
there seems to be a misconception in the PoE community that the power creep was unintentional or that it's hurting the game. it may have changed the game and moved it away from what you fell in love with in the beginning, but that is irrelevant.

just because he's right that the game has become powercreeped does not mean he is right about anything that follows from that point
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>>169813325
the point is: can you get to around 400k dps now? If the answer is no then even after 2.6 buff it would still suck.
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hey guys what should i play next season? i played auramancer this season so i'm thinking something melee
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>>169813652
All of them seem plausible but I can't comment on the feel aspect
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>>169813684
And what follows from that point then? what's the problem in criticizing a company agressively for changing their ways in how they update the game? especially if you were one of the old customers and enjoyed how the game used to play?
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>>169813695
But 100k dps is enough for endgame and shaper
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>>169813924
doubt it. you would fill the room with poodles with only 100k
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>>169813645
the attack/cast speed and damage stack, the resistance doesn't
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>>169813125
>He said the game used to be much harder which is a fact
He's not some special snowflake in that position, but saying that "the game used to be much harder!" offers nothing of real value, let alone if you can't properly define difficulty (and dissociate it from content gating or gear accessibility)

Again, repeating what everyone is already aware of (GGG included) does not make you smart or special, merely an attention whore. Feedback is easy, meaningful feedback is considerably less. He was not capable of the latter or you would be able to paraphrase his position a little better than "he said something obvious! therefore he must be right in every aspect!"

>he also used to say the game is full of power creep
Which is the same point as above? Power creep he also fully embraced, which makes him hypocritical.
Put your money where your mouth is if you want to be taken seriously.

>if you think any of those two claims are false you're just delusional there's no way around it really
I'm saying he never said anything of value. His entire stance revolved around "How can I put a bad spin on this?" even when the changes were largely beneficial for the game as a whole, for example the atlas system.
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>>169813730
SUNDER
SLAYER
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>>169813818
everyone is entitled to their opinion. PT and his fanboys (a mystery that he has any) pass his opinions off as facts

nobody wants to listen to the old man yelling at clouds
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>>169814008
That's pretty neat. Worth using a lvl 1 clarity for that then.
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no HoWaA nerfs?
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Is it possible to do shield charge without facebreakers? i want to try a SC build for SSF league
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POETARDS????????????????
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>>169813976
>doubt it.
I'm telling you, 100k is enough for endgame.
HoWaA is proof.
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stupid poetards
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>>169814356
You're pretty unintelligent, don't play SSF if you can't answer such stupid questions
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Remove all single target attacks, remove melee splash. Make every skill have natural AoE or 100% piercing and balance the game around it.
y/n?
I don't know a single person who would enjoy playing whack a mole killing 1 enemy out of dozens at a time. The fact melee splash exists as a gem and is basically required for every attack that doesn't have natural AoE should tell GGG that single target skills are the antithesis to these types of games.
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>>169814443
this
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>>169814028
>Feedback is easy, meaningful feedback is considerably less. He was not capable of the latter
What do you classify as meaningful feedback? is there no meaningful feedback in a video like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0G5KVkAZxw. Give me an example of another PoE streamer with a similar audience number giving meaningful feedback


>Which is the same point as above? Power creep he also fully embraced, which makes him hypocritical.
Not true, there's no problem in using the tools available for you in the current state of the game, he would be hypocritical if he criticized them and complained had they been removed later

>even when the changes were largely beneficial for the game as a whole, for example the atlas system
So what? why is complaining the game is being dumbed down not a good thing?
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>go on perma league to do test
>equip dual HoWaA
>take blade flurry and wild strike
>tooltip dps: 600 for BF and 6k for HoWaa
Someone need to explain to me how you get these crazy numbers with melee char. Sure the skills are low level but its not like spells who scales big time, right?
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>>169814554
No.
>I don't know a single person who would enjoy playing whack a mole killing 1 enemy out of dozens at a time.
"I don't know anybody who..." is not an argument, stop projecting.
>The fact melee splash exists as a gem and is basically required for every attack that doesn't have natural AoE
Melee Splash is balanced around those attacks being single target.
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What's the bigger difference between 2h cyclone maurader vs a 2h cyclone duelist? just life nodes and ascending tree?
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>>169814639
you're just proving his point, the skills REQUIRE melee splash so why couldn't they just skip the step of it existing as a gem of its own
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>>169814595
a guy playing essence drain and cold snap every league has no right to talk about others being out of touch

you get actual meaningful feedback watching havoc or etup or any similar high-level streams. PT is only known because PoE lacks content creators, especially when it comes to YT. no one as bad as him would rise so high if not for a lack of alternatives
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>>169814757
one is a swole alpha chad while the other is a beta cuck manlet
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I figured it out : Elemental molten strike raider.

Easiest league of my life
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>>169814815
you really can't seem to have a proper conversation without spouting your opinion as a fact and just pretending, I should've known better, this place is infested with low IQ people now
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>>169814850
>chad
someone will have to explain this to me one day
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>>169814893
lead sprinkler shaper's touch molten strike scion(deadeye/slayer)
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>>169814595
Give me a LEGITIMATE criticism he made in one written format. I'm not going to watch his shitty clickbait videos again to prove you wrong. If you have an argument, you should be able to formulate it clearly and from there on there can be debate. You're asking me to disprove the existence of aliens and linking me to a video of UFO sightings, stop wasting my time.

"The game used to be harder" or "There is too much power creep" not are NOT arguments. They are opinions, which need to be backed up by facts, logic and proposals on how to improve the status quo.

>Not true, there's no problem in using the tools available for you in the current state of the game
There's a problem of credibility. If the game is so much easier now and you still take 20 minutes per blue map, what is even your point? That's below 1.0 efficiency. Are you making a statement about the game being "too easy" if you run blue maps? How about Dried Lake? How about normal Ledge?

>why is complaining the game is being dumbed down not a good thing?
How is the atlas "dumbing down" the game? It introduced decision making to how to shape your atlas to personalize your map experience. I would hardly call that "dumbing down" the game but feel free to once again formulate a proper argument.
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>>169814850
>Duelist
>Beta
He canonically fucks Piety though.
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>>169814994
>this place is infested with low IQ people now

look in a fucking mirror

i even answered your stupid question
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>>169815108
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I have a problem with my logout macro. I have it set to auto-correct+f4 every 1.5-3 minutes so as to avoid deaths caused by lag/crashes. Only problem is 90% of the time I run out of portals before looting all the Chests/Barrels/Boulders/etc. I don't kill monsters because it's unethical and not SSF since the monsters found their items first.
How can I fix it or should I just quit SSFHC?
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>>169814814
They require Melee Splash if you try to turn single target skills designed for single target into AoE, which should come with a tradeoff. Are you retarded? Arguing that AoE skills with built-in Melee Splash fare better because they need not waste a support for AoE clear is one of numbers, not design. Homogenization is already a problem, and your solution is more of it? Remove all spells, quadruple Arc damage and number of chains and let's just call it a day.
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>>169815252
>to avoid deaths caused by lag/crashes

just play ssfhc offline
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>waking up with heartburn

not going to make it friday guys
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>>169815252
maps are unethical, farm felshrine since purging skeletons is ethical
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Is ele spooky throw raider better than los angeles raider in 2.6?

>possibly nerfed 6.5% crit swords
>weakened crit multi passives on swords
>pity 10% lolphysical buff
>merged sword nodes dont do much cause lolphysical


Kind of wary boyos.
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>>169814049
okay I'll look into it
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>>169815196
witch would never sleep with a karui animal, her chastity is reserved to her skeleton pet
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Am I the only one who's never been into casters? I'm like this with every other ARPG too. I've played a shitload of PoE and all my characters have been Rangers, Duelists or Marauders using attack skills.
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>>169815558
marauder is gay with shadow anyway, he doesn't even want smelly witch pusspuss
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>>169815619
>Am I the only one
>DAE
You have to go back
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>>169815196
what the fuck is that room in the back with glass walls
there's nothing in it except for a stand
some sort of cuck cage?
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>>169815619
For me its the opposite, I pretty much play witches exclusively (Hell I never made a duelist or marauder since beta) and its like that for ever other arpg.
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>>169815478
Ele bow Raider looking promising, ST is a bundle of issues without running it in a howa build.
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>>169815682
>some sort
you're smart enough to answer your own question my dude
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>>169814226
HoWaA won't be nerfed until double dipping is fixed since it's a non double dipping alternative, and Double dipping won't be fixed until 3.0.
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>>169815703
dreamfeather got double buffed, once from the sword changes and once from increasing the local x-y phys
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Is kaoms boots the new goat?

>stun immune for bosses
>200 fucking life
>immune to temp chains freeze and chill


Dont "muh movespeed" me you cucks my raider has 70% passive and like 150% with quickies.
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>>169815697
Do you know why?
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>>169815881

Dreamfeather is shit dps and depends entirely on added chaos damage plus evasion stacking.

Upping its phys vy 10 points and an extra 10 or so from base buffs isnt abything to speak off.

5% crit.
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>>169815905
dont forget you can't be immobilized either, so while you'll still take damage from traps you can just run through like nothing happened
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>>169815334
That doesn't avoid the random crashes..

Should I just play a more ethical game built around SSFHC like Minecraft?
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>>169815905
4 sockets is a LOT depending on your build, temp chains maps are usually avoided, and freeze/chill is one flask suffix away from being a complete non-issue let alone if you're a Raider with perma status ailments immunity.

Unwavering Stance is not merely stun immunity, it's a huge survivability loss since you CANNOT EVADE ANYTHING EVER AGAIN. Your blind and stibnite flask and evasion are now entirely useless. Does the 120 extra life make up for it? Not for the vast majority of builds.
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>>169815905
the problem is what build would want those boots, you probably want also kaom's heart and then you have only sockets from 2hand/helmet/gloves
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>>169815909
kind of like the spells themselves usually, or the overall Cast & dodge tactic of most games.

If we a look at d2 for example, playing a sorc is pretty much that, cast/teleport everywhere. There's also a toolbox aspect sometime of spellcasters in some game, being able to do a large range of effects. In poe a summoner can do various things, for the party or alone, so you have a lot of skills tu use.

So yeah, I guess the usual gameplay, interesting spells effects and toolbox aspect
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>>169815619
I like mechanical builds that are of high reward and stimulating so mostly right side of the tree that combines curses, totems and burst.
That one Kondo build mentioned today picked my interest tho.
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>>169816262
Okay I get it. I think I'm too attached to the feeling of my damage directly scaling off my weapon though.
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>>169815067
Alright since you are conveniently too lazy to watch a quick video, in one part of the video where chris says:

>Chris: [...] (begin cut) There also an experience that I'd like to relate of the idea that someone sits at work wanting to play Path of Exile because when they get at home they're gonna kill some monsters while chilling out, it's not too stressfull they find some awesome items and feel like it was a productive evening.

First PT says that people who complain the game is getting easier don't want the ENTIRE game to get more difficult, just a section of it, the highest section available like high end maps and mapping in general (end game). He says there is a reason GGG has tiers of difficulty, so that players can work towards and achieve something but experienced players have nothing to achieve, in fact everything they could and have achieved is getting easier and "being taken away from them", mapping and map difficulty in general are a joke (because of power creep).
[this is also related to what Chris was saying BEFORE the cut in the original interview by ziggyd]


>Then his counter point to chris is that if they want the casual crowd as well why don't they focus on improving the start of the game with proper tutorials, explanation of game mechanics/interactions to help people to get into the game, giving the tools for people to GET BETTER rather than taking away the difficulty of everyone just so they can FEEL better?


How exactly is this not valid content and criticism?
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>>169815905
I can't wait to meme with Roots + Shackles to get a huge duration buff on all effects on a class other than Juggernaut. Pathfinder with 100% immortal cry uptime and even more buff potion effect duration would be absurd.
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>>169816158
What is Iron Reflexes
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reminder to wait for mathil video before you choose your build so that t4 unique that you need won't cost 400c during first week
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>level 92 build
>5 points to get the alchemist cluster
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>>169816232

Why the fuck would i want to wear that shitty chest?

You wana roleplay as kaom or something?
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am i retarded or does Meridian XL suck
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>>169816993
>meridian

you are definitely retarded
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are bleed gladiators gonna be good next season?
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>>169817153
median sorry
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>>169816993
honestly most mods suck.
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>>169813137
You're right - what was i thinking...
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>>169816960
what can I drop?

both 3 point jewels?

node near ZO is to simulate the one point you have to spend ZO now that its gonna be connected to the perimeter of the tree
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>>169817236
Forgot pick.
With regular Kaom.
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>>169817272
EE scorcher? they're fun but very squishy
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>>169816519
>First PT says that people who complain the game is getting easier don't want the ENTIRE game to get more difficult, just a section of it, the highest section available like high end maps and mapping in general (end game). He says there is a reason GGG has tiers of difficulty, so that players can work towards and achieve something but experienced players have nothing to achieve, in fact everything they could and have achieved is getting easier and "being taken away from them", mapping and map difficulty in general are a joke (because of power creep).

Which is entirely invalidated by his personal choice to run piss easy maps with piss easy mods. If his point is that old school, experienced hardcore players reach the highest tier so easily now, why could he never do it in a timely manner? Another point I mentioned previously this highlights is his inability to differentiate difficulty (that is, the level of challenge the game throws at a player) from content gating/map scarcity.

End-game is more easily accessible now, partly because the level threshold got bumped and players tend to be more powerful by the time they reach maps, while the top end content actually got more difficult. Is a game that deprives you of end-game content (L76-78 maps pre 2.0) more "difficult" than one that lets you access end game content more easily, provided your build can handle it? Is a game that puts emphasis on killing trash rather than bosses for map sustain more difficult?

So there isn't really anything wrong in what Chris says here from my pov. There's a level of casual content for casual players to enjoy and that eases them into moderately harder content and hard content that they need to works towards to instead of taking for granted.

>How exactly is this not valid content and criticism?
It is one rooted in hypocrisy and which does not reflect the average experience of the majority of players he pretends to speak on the behalf of.
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>>169817518
this and wicked ward + soul strike are my defense

its quad curse and i can get it to 12-12.5k es with an 800 es regalia instead of the simulated 800
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Wild Strike can reach 140k DPS in its current state with suboptimal gear (I was lazy with the builder tbqh) as long as you go EO, EE, MoD.

That was non-crit with Sword, dunno if Crit dagger would work better.

I assume you will be able to get considerably higher values after the changes.
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>>169815056
don't forget goefs chest 2 ES per 10 str
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>>169817272
>aura clusters
>mental rapidity
>dreamer

what the fuck are you trying to achieve?
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>>169817920
EE is shit with wildstrike. You lose access to any elemental buff auras and still have a 1/3 chance of gimping your damage.
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>>169817834
are the witch flask nodes really worth 20% dmg + 2 jewels?
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>you won't find a single legacy unique
>you will watch streamers find perfect rolled legacy uniques every day
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>>169818131
i always get them if i am near them, but wouldn't seek them out.
A jewel slot is worth 3 passive skill points, so make your own decision.
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>>169818131
Alchemists turns
your 20% PDR basalt into 26% PDR
your 40% damage sulphur into 52% damage
your 40 ms quicksilver into 52 ms
your 3000 flat armour granite into 3900 armour
your 100% evasion stibnite into 130% evasion

and adds 12q on all of them

Why would you ever skip it in a CI-build where flask mitigation is much more important than for life?
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i think i've burned myself out over poe in preparation for this league
i spent so much time planning builds and practicing league starts that i no longer even want to play anymore
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>>169818386
You fucked up
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>>169818096
its quad curse and you need 160 mana ((41 mana base cost) *(3.92 cast rate) ) to sustain a level 28 scorching ray


thats with a level 20 clarity and the buffed atiziri mana neck too
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>>169818386
leave this general then
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>>169818529
You don't need to run quadruple blasphemy or whatever your setup is, keep both defensive curses on blasphemy and apply the 3rd/4th with your OoS since you need something for EO and EE anyway

The fuck?
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>>169818386
Go do whatever will keep yiu busy and make you miss poe, you have about 47l8 hours
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behind mind over matter its gonna be something like 20% more max mana right? and not some garbage shit "tons of mana" then they give us 50% increased
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>>169818854
2 curses on + enchance + enlighten


1 from witchfire
1 on oos coh

also running disc and level 20 clarity with no supports
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>>169818545
>>169818874
alright
see you nerds on launch day
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I'm playing cleave
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>>169817717
>Which is entirely invalidated by his personal choice to run piss easy maps with piss easy mods
Again you just keep saying stuff that simply goes against what I've experienced watching his streams, the times I've watched him play DD for instance more recently, he was running some insane maps all the time.

>If his point is that old school, experienced hardcore players reach the highest tier so easily now, why could he never do it in a timely manner?
Timely manner? he did achieve most end-game goals like killing uber atziri, shaper and twinned core. Also was top 50 in HC ladder while strictly playing SSF which is an achievement on its own.

>Is a game that deprives you of end-game content (L76-78 maps pre 2.0) more "difficult" than one that lets you access end game content more easily
It's not as simple as that, you need to take into consideration all the tree changes, ascendancy and all that, it wasn't just map scarcity, maps like Temple were pretty insane back then. Difficult in what sense? does trading and acquiring maps count towards game difficulty? that's another subject

>End-game is more easily accessible now, partly because the level threshold got bumped and players tend to be more powerful by the time they reach maps, while the top end content actually got more difficult.
Wether this was intentional or just a consequence of the maps change and general progression/adding acts, fact of the matter is that this does make the end-game easier overall

Lastly I've already talked about what you see as hypocrisy earlier and gave my opinion.
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>>169818927
2 10% ones and one 20% that also has +40 mana with it
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>>169818998
considered using the new +lvl mod on an unset ring with discipline?
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Really the hardest part about a Wild Strike build is getting is getting a ES body with only odd colors.
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>>169819201
gives like 37 ES * aura effectiveness. Basically just an extra flat ES roll.
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>>169819386
just use incandescent heart or chayula's tabula
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>>169819421
if I can manage my resists yeah,would allow me to run a golem/decoy with the extra link desu
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>>169819513
incandescent heart is probably pretty good now with the ES buff, gives the equivalent of 4 or 5 max res and now has all purpose leech for wild strike
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>>169819110
increased or MORE?
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>>169818927
i'm rooting for gain % of maximum life as extra maximum mana
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>>169819089
>Again you just keep saying stuff that simply goes against what I've experienced watching his streams
I don't follow him enough to care about his progress, last time I watched he was taking 20 minutes to clear a t7 at level 90 or something. So unless he got mysteriously much better since, I'm going to keep assume he runs shitty content well below the power of his character.

>Timely manner? he did achieve most end-game goals like killing uber atziri, shaper and twinned core. Also was top 50 in HC ladder while strictly playing SSF which is an achievement on its own.
He never came close to killing Guardians let alone Shaper, died to Core Malachai (not twinned IIRC). Can you stop revisiting history with your alternate facts? Uber Atziri was at the end of a 3-month league. I highly doubt he was ever top 50 considering above efficiency. He's always been a shit player mechanically playing some cheesy builds.

>It's not as simple as that
My criterion of comparison is quite simple. Compare end-game content pre 2.0 to what it is now and compare how "easy" it is for players to reach it, and how "easy" it is to complete said content once they're running it. Was a 78 courtyard that much more difficult back then than a t15 now? I'd say no, but maybe I have a selective memory like your favorite streamer. Map scarcity is NOT difficulty, nor is running anarchy or nemesis back when exiles and rares could drop +2s as opposed to bosses only now.

>Wether this was intentional or just a consequence of the maps change and general progression/adding acts, fact of the matter is that this does make the end-game easier overall
What is the percentage of players who reach red maps? who sustain them? who reach guardians? who reach Shaper? "The game is so much easier now!" is a blanket statement that does not apply to the majority of players and it conveniently ignores risk/reward found at higher tier where much better players than him still die.
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Please don't post about sprinkler. I need it to be cheap so I can buy them up and profit once I post my build video on plebbit
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>occultist gain 4% of elemental dmg as chaos dmg per each curse on the enemy
>incandescent heart

what other items allow you to gain chaos from ele?
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the hundred or something autists here have no significant impact on the economy, let alone when 80 of them play on shitcore
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so friday?
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Consuming dark Occultist fire nova mine, or assassin or saboteur bladefall traps? Which has more potential for bosses and endgame?
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I always wanted to do a staff build since I'm a huge staff nerd.
Now that staves get a medium sized buff, i am thinking about doing A MoM-Tank build with staves, Eldricht battery and the Hierophant node that is practically a small MoM.
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I just specced CI on my 76 inquisitor and I only ended up with 5k shield I thought it was supposed to be easy to get over 8k
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>>169820773
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Duskdawn
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>>169821181
bladefall traps are usually better since you can atziri with them.
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>>169820521
In the context of the video and what we're talking about, end game content is mapping and not specific maps. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that mapping was harder back then, wether it's because of map scarcity, ascendancy, 2.0, item availability, gearing, whatever, doesn't matter, it is overall easier now than it used to be.

>Was a 78 courtyard that much more difficult back then than a t15 now? I'd say no
What the fuck, compare the average character back then doing the hardest content and the average character now doing the hardest content, do you really think it's harder now?
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>>169810212
>kRIPp
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>>169821259
oops!
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>>169821259
>not checking on PoE planner
lmao
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>>169821383
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>>169821187
Forgot to actually ask the question: are totems worth anything if just invested into halfhearted or should I just inves tthe remaining points into additional 2H-damage?
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>>169812518
I like this
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>>169814606
do you have at least 1k intelligence and a bunch of ele/lightning damage scaling?
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>dominating blow is the most fun skill in the game
>GGG fucking hates it and makes sure it stays #1 worst skill in the game for years
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>>169821268
>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Duskdawn

incadescent heart + atziri flask + duskdawn

with some CwC wither skill

occultist for - chaos res
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Whats MoM
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>>169820814
poeg is a center of influence within the greater poe community!
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>>169821509
spoiler that shit
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>>169821509
lol ebin screenshot desu desu
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>>169821587
no, that would require reading and or thinking. at the very least trying, which i dotn think i should have to do for a build that has been described to me as powerful by the internet
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>>169821509
>5L
HAHA FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>169821509
What did he mean by this?
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>>169821765
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Can someone tell me if Kripps Abyssal Berserker build is still viable in 2.6? I can pay you in (you)s.

http://www DOT poeplanner.com/AAUAAQEhCwB-xthYYz38jM_2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FFnm64-xq4LYa9saPLE9nKp9zJ82fAfogAEs8BmPAXvfJ_fPC2DzINftz7-Cti9NZK18m6qSsg_JypNfVusR1FMykpfsJu1hMXDOong5liTH0kTJIsPqxa_X5hZbc8yJpVh4lVLtUjrYxEvNj2dqmyMYqxH4iLipDmKr5ARe8N4DcAabzvqGPjr891oZXasz36tjayqWfMaOJBVJy9yD5RvZlSJ2GhY15YA7izphrNvnoMJYENuPb6A8bNLV8DjbWwbyM_d8YoUcdl8ggfyQfJFOuGmV03j_o-_CCQ3-F9f0CGQ6hDDaH37AAAAAAA=

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Krippers/characters

Much obliged
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>>169821410
I have a 500 ES chest but my discipline gem is only like level 13 and i skipped out on a lot of ES nodes, maybe thats the problem
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>>169822136
>sc build
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>>169822136
Was it a good build tho? Like I've seen only one video of him running it and he was doing tier 7/8 maps.
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>>169822316
A friend was running it in breach and he killed Chimaera / normal Atziri and all the normal map tiers
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>>169822152
sounds possible
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rules for the next thread:

>no talking about shitcore builds, tactics, streamers, strategies, items, etc
>only talk about SSF HC builds, tactics, streamers, strategies, items, etc
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>RF getting a 60% increase on base radius
>conc effect now only reduces area by a tiny amount

We all know what the new aoe meta will be.
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Guys, at which point maps became round instead of being square?
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>>169816919
>Ngamahu's flame
>+800% price

FUCKING MATHIL
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>>169822136
>poeplanner
no thanks

It will be hurt by the AoE nerf. viable, sure but might feel kinda poop.

this may help
http://poecraft.com/legacy/aoenerf
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>>169822136
should be just fine, nothin really affected it
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>>169821331
>There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that mapping was harder back then, wether it's because of map scarcity, ascendancy, 2.0, item availability, gearing, whatever, doesn't matter, it is overall easier now than it used to be.
So vague "difficulty" that consists of a muddled up perception of like 5 different things thrown together? Got it. If you can't define difficulty properly, or distinguish it from artificial difficulty, no wonder you never challenge your position, because it is too fucking vague to be questioned. All you have to do is wave your old player card and just whine the game was harder without explaining why.

I mentioned a specific aspect of map sustaining, +2s used to drop from exiles and uniques instead of bosses only, this was changed in 2.0 to make mapping risk/reward more meaningful, was this a drop of difficulty in your opinion? if not, can you defend your position?

>What the fuck, compare the average character back then doing the hardest content and the average character now doing the hardest content, do you really think it's harder now?
Yeah. The top end game content is definitely much harder now precisely because it assumes a baseline of ascendancy power and the game starts to weed out shit builds as early as t11-t13s. There was no such "weeding out" before, just map scarcity slowing down players way too powerful to be challenged.

Because the variance between a well-built character and a shit one is much higher now, whereas before it meant at most of 5 passive points, the resulting difficulty for the *average* character is higher.
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>>169810212
hans is shit
raiz is cool
agree with the rest
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is ice shot viable.
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>>169822623
SSF HC is pure autism, why talk about it?

You either play it, or stfu about it.
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>>169822879
>20+ year old literal baby
>cool
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>>169822895
with hrimburn and prolif.
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>>169822953
thanks for your thoughts
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>>169822953
Silly anon, SSF HC is the veganism of /poeg/
Not talking about it defeats its purpose
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>>169823009
prolif from elementalist or can I go a ranger ascendancy and just use a prolif gem
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>>169823053
I like that analogy
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>caring enough to conversate about streamers
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>>169823015
It's not "thoughts", it's a fact.
If you don't make SSFHC from scratch and without ANY interation, you can as well go scrubcore.
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>>169822879
raiz is a yuroshit retard with limited vocabulary and who bans anyone who disagrees with him in chat

his only redeeming feature is being good at racing, but there are comparable and better racers who are not nearly as much of a whiny cunt he is
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>>169822797
That looks pretty interesting, haven't tried RF before but now might be the time
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>>169823224
is it ethical if i ask my dog? what if she watches me poeplan?
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>>169822316
Yea, its really good.
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>>169823382
Unethical as fuck, you need to euthanize that dog immediately.
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What are good skills to use with RF though? I'd like to go RF but not sure whether to go LL (fuck CI) or big Kaom's.
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>>169822797
> Concentrated Effect Support now has 30% less Area of Effect for supported skills (from 25% less Radius) and now grants 35% More Area Damage at Level 1 (from 40%) to 54% More Area Damage at Level 20 (from 59%).
Concentrated effect is LESS AoE than before, what the fuck are you smoking? It's not as penalizing for RF but it's more penalizing overall
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>>169823442
okay, asked the cats. they agree
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>>169822953
We owe it ourselves to elevate the level of poeg to the heights of SSFHC, lest we accepted the casual influx of redditshitters as the norm by which we must conform and adapt to
>>
friendly reminder to stash every unique you find just in case it was buffed, it might be part of a top tier build in a week or so

of course you'll need plenty of stash space to keep all those formerly shit uniques, so do yourselves a favor and buy a few tabs before the season begins. i recommend at least two quad tabs.
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>>169822857
>the game starts to weed out shit builds as early as t11-t13s. There was no such "weeding out" before, just map scarcity slowing down players way too powerful to be challenged.
How is this any different than in the past?
>do 78 map in the past with shit build
>can't complete it/die
AND on top of that you had map scarcity which is another layer of difficulty, but wait, map scarcity isn't part of difficulty because Mr. Anon says so.

When we're talking about the difficulty of a game, difficulty is a combination of multiple things, multiple things have changed since the game used to be hard. It's really simple I don't see why you're struggling to understand it.

just to name a few changes
>amount of defences you can stack in tree + equipment + flasks now
>uniques with much more negligible "down sides"
>speed you can move/whirl/whatever at, since AI is dogshit, you're basically left unpunished except for reflect and volatile
>ascendancy nodes with no down sides
>much easier to stack crit and play crit builds
>op unique flasks
>broken skills like blade vortex, blade flurry
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>>169823559
sounds like youre not doing ssf. not sure we can help, sorry.
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>>169823774
>he's too much of a babby to find good items in ssf
lamoing
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>>169823569

So are you saying Firestorm and Blast Rain became even better single targets?
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>>169823746
also
>auto cursing
>curse effectiveness
>heralds
>mana leech and leech in general easy as hell, no mana problems
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>>169823569
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I'm working on a tanky lightning build (Zealots Oath/CI energy shield) and currently using these skills:

>Arc
>Orb of Storms
>Tempest Shield
>Herald of Thunder

Any suggestions for other skill gems to try or support gems setup?
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scorching ray cwc incinerate

discuss
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>>169823984
Vaal storm call.
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>>169823984
yeah, you want vaal pact and ghost reaver and not ZO. leech is more important than regen with CI. put tempest shield on your cwdt
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>>169824101
hahahahaa
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>>169824101
>incinerate

If you wanna meme properly go Sizzling streak cwc flame surge.
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>>169824183
cwdt and similiar trigger gems are only available after act4, correct? Im currently late act2 with this test build.

Thanks for the tip on vaal pact and ghost reaver, I'll look into it
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Someone go full meme and play something like this-
Thousand Teeth Temu
Wall of Brambles
The Anvil
Advancing Fortress
Crown of the Pale King


You now gain 10% of reflected damage as life with Temu. Combine with the crown that's 40% of reflected damage as life.

241-1300 + 40% damage taken to ranged attackers
432-1531 + 40% damage taken to melee attackers
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>>169823967
Conc effect was buffed like crazy. Anything with a large radius loses like 1-2 radius (aka nothing). Smaller radius abilities lose out a lot though.
>>
>HC streamers going full glass cannon with 1.5k hp in merc
what's the fucking point
maybe you're 1-2 hours faster than a tankier build, but if you die you're completely fucked and lose way more than the amount of time you ``saved"
it's a fucking 3 month league, not a 6 hour race
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living on the edge
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>>169824489
that's RF w/conc & WITHOUT an aoe gem or the witch cluster. incredible buff. maybe i won't SRS
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>>169824576
and how many of those streamers die with 1.5k hp in merc? get good shitter
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>>169824576
>it's a fucking 3 month league, not a 6 hour race
It's less, actually. People like Havoc and Etup have a "race team" of people that run shit with them. And also funnel items and gear into said streamer. Also, why does it matter to you? Take your time with leveling if you want, don't spout your moronic shitter opinion.
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>>169823569
>23 base radius/529 area
>17.25 radius/297.5 area old conc
>529*0.70 = 370 new area with conc

Conc effect is now less penalizing for every skill AND the more base radius your skill has, the less penalizing it is.
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How expensive is a RF build? It seems kinda fun but I assume it'S not a league starter
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you tell us
how many runs did each of them die on
if you die even once beyond normal you've wasted your time
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>>169824576
the only way to die on merc is if you literally fall asleep or are new

it is a race. 2 hours is massive and if you pay attention to how you actually build moneys at the start of leagues you will see why.
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>Siosa now sells all quest gems once you've completed his quest and the quests required to unlock the appropriate tiers of gem rewards

by all quest gems do they mean ALL quest gems? like SSF players wont have to rely solely on RNG for skill gems? like if i'm playing a witch and i want whirling blades, i can buy it now in a3?
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>>169824932
Chieften RF totems are designed to be a league starter build requiring nothing special at all.
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>>169825058
>.png (3.2 MB, 1920x1088)
nys
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>We've got some 2.6.0 changes to Zombies coming. I can't confirm what's changing yet, but we'll add this information to the patch notes once it's ready.

They still aren't done with zombies.
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>>169825134
unethical tbqh
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>>169824932
Rise of the phoenix is dirt cheap, life/str gear is dirt cheap, don't even need to use anything above a 4link. Also you have leo mod or solaris divination farming in ssf if you really want to do that.
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>>169825240
get a 3rd arm with a threshold jewel
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>>169825338
>leo mod
>ssf

hrm.
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>>169823746
>How is this any different than in the past?
Because there was much less power variance in the past. Pre 2.0, a player with a 6L might have a support worth of damage advantage over the the player with a 5L, he might have made a few inefficient passive skill tree decisions but that's about it. There wasn't as much variance as now and pretty much everyone could run the highest maps with ease. 6L was considered a luxury that trivialized the hardest game content. The baseline expected from the player was lower.

>but wait, map scarcity isn't part of difficulty
How the FUCK is map scarcity difficulty? Let alone when map sustaining had heavier emphasis on killing trash/uniques/exiles than killing the map boss itself? Is map sustaining because you rolled magic pack size harder than killing bosses? You've been dodging this for like 3 posts in a row now.

>just to name a few changes
Sure, this goes both ways though:
>>amount of defences you can stack in tree + equipment + flasks now
Max Block casters were meta, block was plenty available in the tree and base shield block chance was much higher. You could reach 75% block with 2 shields clusters and a Rathpith.
CWDT+EC+IC for 4-second automated physical immunity was a thing.
Old MoM + AA was incredibly powerful
Purities used to give much more % max resistances.
Elemental Adaptation, Buff Effect, etc.
>uniques with much more negligible "down sides"
40% MoM Cloak of Defiance, 40% Lighning Coil? 40/30% block Rumi's? Didn't see much of a downside there.
>speed you can move/whirl/whatever at, since AI is dogshit, you're basically left unpunished except for reflect and volatile
Yeah, Lightning Warp+Reduced Duration/Leap Slam pre-range nerf wasn't fast at all.
>ascendancy nodes with no down sides
See above, the baseline was increased, thus leading to an increased expectation.
>op unique flasks
Legacy Rumi's, Legacy ToH, Atziri's Promise, etc.
>broken skills like blade vortex, blade flurry
Everyone ran prolif FB then.
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you can pvp with ssf char
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>>169825671
PvP is unethical.
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>>169825671
didnt know that. thanks
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>>169825528
Yes you can indeed level up forgotten masters in ssf friend.
>>
Seeing other players in town while playing SSF is unethical.
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Our unique
http://www.strawpoll.me/12444482
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Okay, staves got buffed.
Who's got a build?
or even just a little inspiration for one?
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If you are going staves the last thing you want is competition for gear.
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is this good
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>>169825942
>Our
think not


fuck these are embarrassing
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>>169825661
I would burn down an orphanage to bring acroblock and ondar's guile back.
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>>169825984
shiver staff now also has +2 to cold gems if you wana freeze things
>>
Paragon of Calamity doesn't work with RF right?
>>
>>169826081
>1,2M
what do you think?
>>
do you think your parents would be more ashamed for unique items in poe or your life
>>
>>169826083
so why didn't you come up with anything better?
>>
>>169826137
try reading.
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>>169826217
Think my parents out right wish i was a better person instead of the useless piece of shit i am senpai
>>
>Cherrubim's
>Increased Chaos Damage mod increased to 50-80%
Hmmm
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>>169826137
I doubt everyone knows the name of every single ascendancy node. Just say what the node does if you're going to ask a question about it.


50% reduced Reflected Elemental Damage taken
For each Element you've been hit by Damage of Recently, 8% reduced Damage taken of that Element
For each Element you've been hit by Damage of Recently, 40% increased Damage of that Element
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>>169826405
shitters out or be quiet
>>
r8 my ssfhc ball lightning mine build

http://poeplanner.com/AAUABHEQAAI22E2UoNpiaHT56EGHtz6DzDwtxq4LYa9siuSb7E8Egsco-lfJDXzqurQMytO-ipMnbAsi9H3SVK7fir68guSQEYqvSsg_JypNAO4s6RUgLYMZtMKO-KGbLcT2cqn3MuoY-OsUcQ48rj5nm11JJSd7jDpShmA26AHnpzCfy_aj73ruDqOK-WMV8AX5lwb5M-fqr-vEon_GwcXsGI_6XECHy6ebdZ7PFVS9Fe2Wi9W50NBSsjeB5OvjVl9qRwbYdlb1226X0I6KuT6sZizhfePb53BRdm9-sNhUH1sGd1MxtMUV_Yo4ZK9F9G9XeBnBoNYHwuwqW4JeUuwFtY2_1CMwcd2oS3g6Qj3dZ2efJ1FHlQXZxjKUfwKm4AiJmvFdaMqpMHzUUsv1MbDcvecPAydE0qPnAhF_K9aKVvp313SgWHUGIBR1GNt08SFgwYuBQTXvOu2mjXVOZfDl5pzEtyLbpwlY0_xAoMC_BIePmTJOG5esr14TIVXcPQd1wKYs-4oiJyBhUpOoirNXVDJ-GlVhIa5Qe3Rlp8VT3DJIeAU8iO2p-uHvIq84U3bn5K1nWGCRG6rBB9d-Yxd-mgMAgTpkUk4yF-Em-BNMwaPiYTB3Wf5R5rQvITRBP3dTOzuexXzZrKpZ8-1ESi7Vi6elvJpBcsln891oZbvtkc52rM9-5FGWbFcN8awpLp7N6dV5OfKcbpf3vtl8ggd-4ho-Xz8UIO8Om1gx-5d5CZY5Digqi0-8nxiRtqTelpgKLKdKxPauWK-pblYtFKnAGm87G_ol37YspBl5aD_86GYIsYcpWp9FqWa2hO-pJ5Bsh2q-p2BBY3Bi7E1GwYJGt9Nv5LE53ZLQEuHvTobRJwuDti_MhNllTb02xLjV-CyFWhp67wUtRJ5Tu2qTTP_WWOCfBWZvJ5pqKaWkwi4jk5m7nluvOrOQCt0NcsOrC8wGdcvqYuCVn4JW6A2NFfZieQAGIXaGzsEzFz4UjsB2hrPIzO-P32_YYNctSQ-HduOfSn3dRmOnEYGq-Kiiwdj8xbcXXPlkWjiW5woKm3GwyPCxs3iuPeIMc5Vm034knWJau-P-uqfU_siBrDOSQxOQDTN45zob4MjcwUn-HTnUb_Kgnz7PveYbrQSxexQj9k2S3vikeMHV51Qk_f_eXovd54O9kvNeRejWIuqxMNpkj0_ajavSJT_DOio4GYr7CfbaGo9LCqk0YQa32Zu1hMVfsMpKiFuwC31brEej71SCX5hZbc8yR-Ii4qQ5b57xs0tXwOOcpIcTdwcsvxXXhq5WY05tpcScMuv1ZJ3yHfDVSVERlpOVrTMZ1wEJuNndSO-I-TfXz0mxoS9b9Hmhi5m5b0ZxsHdHt4YCVdXT-6h9WpFqrB2-M4cD7hhWgwlgQ249voB7w_TGRQo11jGe_grYvW6qZIQGoPm9NZL-j03jplc64eKtCdnKRvLSsVumMgMEqUh7bpchwXymrwJfpAxg3kQlAMGEU-_9d-JYF6I-PEvgVQAAAAAA
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new map
>>169826513
>>169826513
>>169826513
>>169826513
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>>169826519
>poeplanner
keep yourself safe
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>>169822821
Does this look correct to you? assuming 45% AoE radius and lvl 1 abyssal cry + increased AoE gem?
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>>169826081
what is this program you use to show dps
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>>169827320
path of building
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how do i make lightning tendrils viable ?
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>>169824932
It's not expensive. You need a level 1 empower which is a few c. A pheonix which is a few c. And a Geofri's Crest which is a few c.

When you're righteous fire hits level 18 the level it will be boosted to level 20 by the level 1+1 empower and the +1 from the helm, and you'll be able to start using rf.
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