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YOU SMUGGLERS ARE BUSTED! Edition


New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Armored Core:
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

Rough Ride your new forklift here:
https://mwomercs.com/roughneck

Stab your spear you filthy tribal:
https://mwomercs.com/javelin

How to start MWO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s [Embed]

New Player's Guide to MWO (aka the Manual):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg [Embed]

Group Mumble Info:
kong.stepoff.com
port:7777
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Problem 5: Support By Fire

Mission: establish a support by fire position in the vicinity of giants pass in the High Wall mountains in order to suppress the defenses opposing the attack of the 2nd Sword of Light.

Equipment: the following mechs are available for deployment from task force reserves:

Archer ARC-1W

Trebuchet

Zeus

Dragon DRG-1N

Dragon DRG-1C

Dragon DRG-1G

Jagermech

Rifleman

Hunchback

Panther

Jenner

Shadow Hawk

Dervish

Banshee

Victor

Ubernmech

Awesome

A single leopard class dropship has been allocated to transport the lance to the far side of the mountains.

All remaining mechs will remain in task force reserve.

2 re supply vehicles will be loaded with munitions and transported in the ASF bays. The Leopard will depart after deployment.
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>>169752057
The LZ is approximately 60 KM from the base of the mountain, and the road to the peak of the pass is narrow and winding, and approximately 20 KM. Once over the pass, the road remains steep, winding, and with no cover to to enemies position or any aircraft. The road enters the plains in front of the Davion lines.At the peak, the high cliffs provide excellent cover from air attack.

At the top of the far side road is a rest, and staging area approximately 200m wide by 150m deep. The rim is lined with boulders up to 5m high

The DCMS operations have been severely hampered as a result of the escape of several prisoners who managed to steal 4 mechs, destroyed the task force HQ, killing general Oda and his staff, killing 40 of the best mechtechs in the force, killing 11 mechwarriors outside their mechs and destroyed the forces primary ammunition supply center.

The death of general Oda has pushed his second Sword of light into a battle frenzy. Many warriors have wasted their lives and mechs by refusing to withdraw for repairs or reload. The Sword of Light is now below 45% of its authorized strength.

The loss of 40 mechtechs has delayed repairs to heavily damaged mechs by 400% currently there are 26 mechs sidelined due to heavy but repairable damage.

The destruction of the ammunition supply center resulted in 47% of the task forces ammunition reserves being destroyed. As a measure to stretch the remaining stores, all munitions requests are being shorted by 20%
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>>169752057
>>169752215
Enemies disposition:

Contact with the remnants of the mech battalion on planet has been lost. Intelligence believes that they are being held as a final reserve.

Several battalions of tanks and mechanized infantry are holding the forward defenses of a line stretching from the Seamount mountain range to the High Wall mountains. The presence of the task force primary objective ( the military vehicle production complex) is allowing the repair and refit of damaged units. On site ammunition production facilities is also ensuring few if any ammunition shortages.

Davion artillery units have range to fire along the entire front, disrupting efforts to break sections of the line with long range missile fire. The assembly area at the top of the pass is screened from artillery fire be a spur of the mountain.

Your mission is to disrupt the Davion line with long range fire from the pass while elements of the 2nd SoL assault under your cover.

If the SoL breaks through, the task force reserve will move in to exploit the breach.

If Davion command reinforces the flank, a probing attack will be launched at the opposite flank. If a breach can be made there, the 5th Galdon Regulars will attack there.

If both flanks are reinforced, the Regulars will assault the center of the line to force a breach. In that event, all effort attack will be made by all available forces.

This is the last attack that the DCMS can muster. If it fails, the task force must return in shame for not having completed the Warloards objective. Enemy reinforcements are expected within the week and our supply levels are critical.

Questions

1 what lance do you take

2 where do you draw the line and go home?

3 do you have a better plan for the DCMS? Or Davion?
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Am I on /tg/?
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I HATE KANUS
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>tfw too intelligent for MWO
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>>169752215
They should just cut their losses and retreat.

If you can't keep your prisoners locked up or even bother to put passwords on your mechs then you don't deserve to win.
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Final hours. Do I buy the Javelin or a resistance hero like the asshopper or BLACKED knight?
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>>169755646
What do you want
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>>169758448
I already have 3 weed jumpers and 3 african chevaliers but having a cbill bonus one wouldn't be bad. I don't have any javelins, obviously.
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>>169758562
The BK Hero is one of the most underwhelming heroes of the release. Dudeweedlmao is unique in a decent way but the ballistic hardpoint placement is prolly not gonna be that great.

Javelins will be alright.
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>>169752608
May as well be. Kong's oldest members are from there.
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>>169760074
Who?
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>>169760540
Lao
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http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/03/1743-post-updated-latest-news-regarding-upcoming-skill-tree-pts

Thoughts?
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Its funny because these threads have been the EXACT same posts over and over again for 5 years now.

I can go through 4chans archives looking for MWO threads and I can pick any one out from the last 5 years, and they will all be exactly the same. I wouldnt even be bale to tell what year the thread was from.
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ded
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>>169764416
But this thread doesn't have any Lurmesomes nor dudebot.
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paging horko

paging horko to the thread
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>>169768492
lawl whu?
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>>169768492

You're doing it wrong my familiar, infact you could say you've dumped haruko repellent into the thread. Our only hope now is if we start unironically talking about her like some kind of needy loser. But then that just makes her show up all pissed off and not wanting to socialize.
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>>169769117
>wanting to asking a question from a specific individual in a thread repels said person from thread
???
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>>169769117
>all pissed off and not wanting to socialize
how is that any different?
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How many konglords are left?
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>>169772490
You mean 3.0 KDR Klords or elder kongers in general? As far as elders go there's still Vass, Dashing, and Harabec. Huge has come back, Connor too, and a few other oldfags drop by from time to time. Though as far as true elderkongfags go there's only one name that still plays MWO that's in this image, and unfortunately he's a shitter.
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>>169755646
Why would you buy a Resistance hero now when there is no reason to buy one now? Wait until they are released then buy one.
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>>169772860
Plenty of original kongs still play the fuck you talking about?
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>>169769117
Who is this Haruko, some sort of shitposter? Should know about them? Are they a faggot?
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>>169774142
some neckbeard pretending to be a girl and people in this general falling on their knees for "her"
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>>169750945
Hel0
What have I missed since the supernova being released?
Also was it shit?
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>>169774187
Standard fare then. Carry on.
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>>169774248
nothing?
it's good
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>>169772860
have yall niggers upgraded to Discord yet?
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>>169774780
lao who?
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>>169774780
someone post the kong discord link i need a new place to meme in
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>>169775679
Kong discord is for redditors who play games like ARK.
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>>169775850
do people not play robutts on discord?
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Turmeric, Marik Green & Thulian
What colour swap should I do to give other people seizures in game
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>>169775971
no the people on discord got so butthurt over people still playing robots that they moved to a different voip client
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>>169763018
It's fucking nothing, what the thoughts could even be?
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I actually thinking to use stcikers on my car to make paint sceme look alike Ghos Bear pattern.
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>>169776070
Seems fair. Why would anyone want to hang out with a bunch of newfag shitters?
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>>169776058
The thumbnail makes it look like it is in genuine desert / arid mountain camo. You did good.
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>hide hide hide hide hide 100% assault too scared :(((
jesus fucking christ why do I have to carry every single game
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>>169775850
>>169776070
this is a misconception as to how discord interacts with an image board general. a very understandable one. what it actually tends to do in reality is create a platform from which people garden the thread.
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>>169778659
kys barney
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=99620841c8ce8f69e1909a3c1309ab885ec1207f

I will be your assault tonight. Say something nice about me!
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>>169779962
that build is shit and you should feel shit
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>>169780140
Of course it's shit, it's stock.
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I wasn't joking by the way. Playing shitty stock builds is fun because you forget about losing and concentrate on playing the game on hard difficulty.
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>>169779962
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=e5f4a2d1d092708d48e2a4b08c754b339a3dbcd9
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>>169781263
kys
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>>169780271
No this is stock

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=52f618067616baddf3a99b3f7c12e1f7d3a79d2f
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>>169781449
Yes, just straight up worse.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=5cecc541d103ef9de71d336736430906a9d12ffc

a perverse lust
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screw that XLFE 5xLPL crap, load out you MANshee with a standard and brawl

\\http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=145&l=643f79f0cd621ff687b217297bc1addd45c47bc8
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>>169782591
Don't listen to meta shitters, make builds that are fun instead.
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>>169782689
lolZ
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It is based on standart build, why it's not META?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=259&l=24a88eeebbfa64e107167fcfcbb5a941e369cb76

At least for CW it should be usable, no?
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>>169780140
Feels pretty good if you ask me.
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I need mechbays, should I sell the Superdoa 3 or A?
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>>169787245
I sold both of them.
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>>169763018
>making people invest more in mandatory trees so now people will just use need even more mandatory skillpoints
>tieing mobility into tonnage instead of engine rating so everything can have the same mobility in the same tonnage class and they'll remove mobility quirks
>except then they'll change all mechs base mobilities on an individual basis fucking anyway
>clan imba lol
URF DURF
OOGA BOOGA
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>vladivostok
>darova))
>privet
what are my teammates talking about?
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Rate your hate for piggy's dank skill tree system.
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>>169792672
>no more modules
>no more triple mech paywall
nothing but love, I don't care how unbalanced it is initially
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>>169792672
Destroyed by niggeroid sphere whining / 10

Just like power draw
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>>169792929
What did he mean by this?
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>>169790471
Sosi pidor ;)
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>>169794736
idi nahui
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GREETINGS FELLOW ROBOTS

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heavygearblitz/jovian-wars-resin-spaceship-miniatures
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>>169793760
Much like ED the skilltree will crash with no survivors, because PGI can't unfuck their stupidity thanks to the goldies whining about everything and especially about clans. Soon we'll see the death throes where they keep desperately tweaking some unrelated details while the main system on the PTS is spiraling down the toilet, just like ED.

In retrospect ED dying a horrible death was just funny, those idiots responsible for coming up with that dumb shit were the same ones who took part in fucking it up so it was unfixable.
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>>169792672
Please go to bed
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>>169797890

>resin.

At least it can't be any more harmful than the mix used by forgeworld, right, guys?
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holy fuck im having so much fun with this robot

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=311&l=4a540549a4adb073013f3c53a24396387f4e0672

it has so much bonus armor its insane
and it hits like a truck
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>>169799290
now do it with the 1X which is just a tankier deadlier version of it
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>>169799421
>no ECM

no thanks senpai
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>>169799471
I'm not your senpai you turd
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>>169799471
once you get out of tier 4 ECM becomes useless
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>>169799619
but i am in tier 4 senpai
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>>169799954
I know that
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Kong is dead.
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>>169800048
i need muh cloak of skill so i can actually brawl and 1v1 people without having 900000000 missiles instantly rain on me
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>>169800354
yeah well ECM isn't going to help you do that once you're out of tier 4
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>>169800332
True kong is EUkong
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>>169800583
Which is also dead.
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>"it stops working when you get out of Tier 4"

I'm in Tier 1 and I still get Tier 4/5 shitters on my team and on the enemy team, I don't get what you mean when you always have to deal with SOME LRM shitters being retarded on both sides
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>>169800646
LMAO

>Ameriganistanian proofs
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>>169800741
>I'm in Tier 1 and I still get Tier 4/5 shitters on my team and on the enemy team
Literally impossible. At tier 1 your lower range stops at tier 3.
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>>169800860
this is a lie.
because yesterday i got matched TWICE against that russian guy that streams and that is also world champion that is tier 1 and i am not even half into tier 4.
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>>169800958
literally who?
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>>169801007
that prtnspz guy
i watched his stream before starting to play this game and i know for a fact he is full tier 1
yet me being tier 4 i got matched twice against him
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>>169801223
I bet everybody sounds russian to you
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>>169801309
he's literally russian though
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Really makes you think.
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>>169801520
You got a problem with something?
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>>169801520
LRMs need massive buffs though. The only situlation where they're good at (someone caught in the open with no cover in sight), other weapons are still better.
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>>169801767
Yes, you you fucking shitter.
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>>169802912
What did he mean by this? LRMs need buffs, they're by far the weakest weapon type in the game. Even Machine Guns are more viable.
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cпoкoйнoй нoчи
what did he mean by this?
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You have 2 slots and 1 ton remaining. What do you do?
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>>169804590
double heatsink
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>>169805043
>not taking AMS with half a ton
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come play robots we have girls
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>>169805545
do you have robot girls?
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>>169805625
uh yes
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tfw more Marauder builds than light or assault mechs
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which robots are boys and which robots are girls?
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>>169807129
You can't just be assuming a robot's gender in the 31st century anon.
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>Ultraviolets running gausspepsi
Just use a Kodiak you
you
DOUBLE WOBBIE
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>>169810963
>x running y
Just use a Kodiak you
you
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>>169809380
Is this a Rifts reference?
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Quad mechs when? I want quad mechs. I want my Scorpion and Goliath dammit.
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>>169813115
Lao Hu when?
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>>169813115
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Assassin has double knees!
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What's the best IS brawling heavy?
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>>169814832
Cataphract 1X
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>>169814698
All assassins should have ECM and other things to make them...you know...assassins.
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>>169814698
Apart from Huntsman, what other robots have double knees?
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Is Oxide still meta compliant?
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>>169815937
Lao Hu?
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>>169816489
kys
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>>169815937
Some quad mechs would.
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These brain dead wastes of life will buy anything
https://mwomercs.com/resistance-heroes
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>>169817160
what did he mean by this?
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>>169817160
I'm so buying that fucking Kaiju. And maybe that Urbie.
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>>169817160
I'm buying every single one of those, and you can say whatever you want.
Fuck you dude.
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Update on the Zeus-5S.
While the novelty of the shitty stock loadout was fun and all, it was just far too shitty. So I switched it up to an equally novel brawler with ancient weapons!

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=d075fab718a996091e301ad4d3e6bbe99ab1e47d
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>literally can't even run 2 lpl 2 cuck5 on the EXE
Executioner was a mistake.
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>>169818845
You didn't actually buy a SEXE, right?
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>check goldforum
>Bishop "why can't I stop sucking all these cocks" Steiner posts an essay in nearly every thread
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>>169818925
I used to have one, long ago.
I'm just browsing through mechs now and it boggles my mind how fuckawful clam assaults with exception of Marauders and Kojaks
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>>169819098
You should read all 40,000 of Vassago Rains posts.
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>>169819225
You forgot Superdoa. It's actually good.
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>>169819227
The difference is that Steiner still floods the forum to increase his already massive ego
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How exactly does a mech feed ammo from the legs to the arms?
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>>169820414
Shhhh.
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>>169817160
>tfw several old gold men will grabdeal the urbanmech k-9 only if its police light bar works, because flashing polygons are neato and worth real preorder spacebucks and waiting four months
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>>169820414
wireless connection
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>>169820414
External ammo belt feeds and the appropriate Exposed Weapon Linkage negative quirk associated with it.
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How many inches of cock do you have to take up the ass before you qualify for a clan assault?
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>People who do not know how to climb hills on Alpine and get stuck halfway

>Team mates who are too greedy and slide from a hill into the enemy team
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>>169817160
you say this like you wouldn't want a turbo-zoose in your mechbay my dude

>>169818461
>320 STD
>SRM4s
S T O P
this is not how you zoose
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=315&l=15f57d0bb02143b5867746fae79a24974c51f347
THIS is how you zoose
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>>169821641
>team wants to go up the mountain
>climb the trench at an agonizing speed in a dire wolf and have to wiggle left and right multiple times to get past the small narrowest/steepest part
>tfw all the people in line behind you didn't make it in time
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>>169822264
>take tanky assault
>run it with XL
shut the fuck up greg you absolute shitter
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>>169822264
shut the fuck up greg
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>>169822395
>t. tier 5 baby man who will never do 1600 damage in a zoose in his lifetime
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>>169823313
annoying AND dumb
fuck off greg
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Worst general is as dead as their game
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Hello?
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>>169824813
konnichiwa anon-kun
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>when an influx of Nintendo threads pushed /armored core general/ off the board

perhaps I can give you guys a bump instead? From one mech general to another?
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>>169823313
unff, that thigh gap is so perfect
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>>169827074
Just like superheroes...they were their underwear outside their pants.
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>>169827714
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>>169828317
WRONG
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>>169827714
do not lewd the kaede
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Why is the battlemaster-1G is so shit
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I HATE DISCORDIANS

200 UNIQUE KAELUSES

ALL CLITON DONATER
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Huroka is cute and not a whore

I used to say she was a whore before but I changed my mind, she has her own appeal
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If a game has a mech in it, but it plays like a shmup, does it still count as a mech game? because I wanted to recommend ZANGEKI WARP to you guys.
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redpill me on greg kong

is he the true konglord of kong?
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What do you call the mechs that walked into the Manshee on Viridian Bog? Dead.

seriously negros, get yourselves a BNC-3M
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=145&l=f84a6028bcb8c8d5cf01925719308547f228a9b3
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>>169841000
he's the one true memelord
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>>169841000
He is an annoying screeching autistic that drove me to drinking. No amount of memes or ironically unironic satire and 'Who else but gregmire' will change the fact he is genuinely at his core an unlikable person.

I hope he reads this and cries.
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>>169750945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7AioXOVKRo&t=26s

It's only a matter of time before we get the Nikolai Malthus mech.
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ded
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>>169856559
wat
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>tfw too intelligent for MWO
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>>169859076
yet you're here in /gerg/
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>>169857964
Harabec is a lewd elf.
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>>169859329
only ironically, hence my intelligence
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>>169859467
whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Updated skill tree details based on the feedback received.

http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/03/1752-latest-skill-tree-build-now-live-on-pts
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>The new Weapons Branch contain Skill Nodes which provide universal bonuses to all weapons. There are no longer distinct Cooldown Nodes specifically for Autocannon weaponry, for example. In their place are all-encompassing Weapon Cooldown Nodes affecting all Ballistic, Energy, and Missile weaponry.
>>>no distinct Cooldown Nodes

also missiles are easier to spec into laser and ballistics cause they're in the middle
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Also enjoy getting radar derp

11 points at least
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>>169861245
What the fuck does High Explosive and Missile Rack mean? More damage and more missiles per shot? How does that work?
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>>169862125
log in and find out for yourself, lazyass.
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>>169862205
Don't even need to log in, it's explained in the link.
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>>169859363
NOT

LEWD
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>>169863151
>i'm totally not a slut

okay whoreabec

t. 3d
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>>169863151
>coming from the guy literally whored himself out to excavators during the mutant epoch campaign

t. P diddy
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>>169863745
More like Peediddler, faegget.
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>>169864291
monkey man dindu nuffin
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>>169864424
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http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/03/1751-join-resistance-mech-sale

IS shitmechs on sale! Get 'em while they're HOT!
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Reminder that only two more weeks remain before we can headbutt Atlases with Commandos.
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>still says set to release february 21st on the portal

lol
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LOL holy shit they gimped the Atlas S perks, DDC now confirmed better

also what the fuck I can take velocity on my PPC hunchback 2c with Targeting Comp MkVI

>50% velocity

literally better than any IS shitperks

Gonna make some image comparisons for before and after perks on perkheavy mechs.

Pic is fall damage you're forced to take.
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>Improved Gyros and Hill Climb
who even gets this shit
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they removed the acceleration perk differentiating the DDC

now DDC is just better if you want to drop the missile hard point for ECM
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>>169868390
>dropping a missile for an ECM
How the fuck do you not have enough room for both?
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>>169861428
WOW OH MY GOD WHY IS THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL ABILITY BEHIND AN INVESTMENT REEEE FUCK YOU PIGGI

I fucking hate people like you
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>>169870904
wouldn't be a problem if target decay required you to go through both sides of the tree as well

>10 points for target decay, all 5
>16 points for radar derp, all 5
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>>169871115
And why exactly is that a problem?
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>>169871165
You waste skill points picking stuff up. Same with blocking the skill tree here with Shock Absorbance.
>>169867087

And Improved Gyros and Hill Climb, >>169867259

Shit no one took modules for in the first place.
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>>169871383
Truly these are the end of times when you aren't given a wad of cash and a blowjob for putting Radar Deprivation in your mech.
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So is the era of lurms finally upon us?

All these retards will just put everything into weapons, cooling and defense with no radar dep or ecm quirks.

Even better if they are a jump sniper since thats more points away from useful things like seismic and radar dep.

Basically the skill tree is going to be a giant retard check as people forget all those modules that have been carrying them and try for more weapon quirks.
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>>169871568
dammit russ stop shitposting they changed the skill tree so people wouldn't have to go through mandatory nodes in the first place and they just did it again
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>>169871754
Radar Derp is overrated and snipers will have the easiest time dealing without it since they can just hide behind whatever cover they are humping.
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>>169871856
Well your probably right since its always gonna be canyon network and crimson straight forever.

I can already do reasonably well with lurms as a secondary weapon. Just radar derp ruins any chance of my missiles hitting past 300 meters if they aren't an assault mech.

Literally 2-3 extra seconds of lock time would be enough to change that near miss to a hit.
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>>169872019
And that's great, we need more mixed builds. Dedicated LRM boats will be exactly the same because there's cover everywhere and missiles still fly at snail speed, while builds with secondary LRMs will be more viable.
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>>169872019
WOW OH MY GOD THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL ABILITY CALLED TARGET DECAY IS IN THE SKILL TREE BOO HOO I NEED MORE TIME TO AIM MUH LURMS REEEEE FUCK YOU PIGGI FOR WASTING MY SKILL POINTS ON ALL THE MISSILE SKILLS

I fucking hate people like you
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>>169872151
What did he mean by this?
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>>169872151
Except target decay does nothing against radar derp because you lose target as soon as they break los

Usually that means that flurry of missiles hits nothing unless they were narc'd and I would have been better with a PPC or something instead because it would have hit.
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>>169872325
>except target decay does nothing against radar derp

stopped reading right there
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>2017
>still crying about lrms
I really hope PGI doesn't listen to these tier 4 shitters
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Am I seeing this right?

6 Consumable slots?

What in the actual fuck?

Can anyone on the PTS confirm?
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yeah you're right we should be crying about how every pepsi goose shitter literally won da quirkbowl

>velocity are generic nodes
>20% easily
>only needs 8 nodes and branches into the gauss part of the tree
>range is also generic
>gauss isn't even at the bottom of the tree, less investment
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>>169872680
velocity is suddenly not relevant for any other ballistic or missiles at all?
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>>169872820

>>169861245
>no machine gun
>no ACs
>UAC trash
>LBX spread NO ONE GIVES A FUCK at the bottom

>but it's okay well put gauss really close to velocity

pepsigoose uses 20% more velocity more than an AC10 does
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>no machine gun ROF nodes

why bother?
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>>169872954
If you go for normal ACs, UACs or LBX then you use the exact same nodes as you would for Gauss

If you want velocity for Missiles then it's also right there along with Cooldown and Heat Gen

Literally what are you even talking about?
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ree

*inhales*

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>we want to reduce overall quirks with the skill tree update
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>>169873969
retard
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So are you able to respec a mechs skills any time you want?

Or did they go full kike mode and make you buy a new mech if you want to respec?
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>>169874151
They haven't done anything yet.
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so wait a minute..i dont understand..
with the new skill tree will they be wiping out all the chassis quirk bonuses or will the new skill tree bonuses work alongside the existing quirks?
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New skill tree is pretty interesting.

Still a lot of bloat and useless picks like fall damage and hillclimb but the weapon tree is a lot better.

Its still smarter to boat 1 type of weapon but they locked cooldown on the ballistic side and heat generation on the laser side so you can't get both without some serious points.

Mechs feel really different now. I went out with mechs with purposely small engines and could handle decently.

The biggest change is mechs Decel seems to be an exponential now meaning that if your going top speed it takes a lot longer to slow down.

It is really going to hurt the standard poke and trade since even with max agility quirks your still exposed for a lot longer than live.

Mechs do feel like lumbering warmachines and not gundams which is an odd change.

Even fast mechs like the linebacker feel different.
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>>169874890
Some existing quirks get removed, some don't.
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>>169868390
why does it list 2 ECM orange hardpoints in the LT?
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>>169875073
>he doesn't know about that secret double ecm the atlas has
>>
>Enforcer hero is now just 4P with ECM
>Gigga Knigga with an AC20 and 6E
wew
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should i grabdeal the Giga Nigga hero?
im having a lot of fun with the AC20 + 4ML Phract 0XP
the Giga Nigga hero should be able to carry AC20 in the arm + 6 ML and a huge XL, right?
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>>169876818
You shouldn't grab deal anything because there's no pre-order bonus. Wait for the mechs to come out, see what they are like, what other people think about them and then buy one if you still feel like it.

There is literally no reason to buy them now so you are objectively unintelligent if you do.
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>>169876897
oh, i see..
but it SHOULD be able to carry AC20 in the arm with a huge XL, right?
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>>169877908
yes
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>enabling a lower arm actuator in one arm of a clan omni mech will also enable it for the other arm

top fucking kek pgi
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>>169878190
doesnt it work the same for IS?
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>>169878689
no with IS your arms either have actuators or not, some omni mechs can choose
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>>169878689
yes it is because of deep rooted cryengine errors
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>>169879008
i think its because otherwise you would need a 3 crosshair system, one for the torso, one for the arm with lower actuator and one for the arm with actuator..which would result in a mess
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wait so the solution PGI had to poptarting was to make jets completely useless as well as add a charge up to gauss as well as give you parkinsons in mid-air, instead of just making jump jets recharge significantly slower?

good job pgi
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>more armor/structure
>less mobility
what kind of a fag doesn't want this?
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>>169878190
It only gives you half the range and it works for a few IS mechs as well.

It's just too difficult for them to split the crosshair or they think its too difficult for us.

>>169879553
The Parkinson's was the smartest thing that came out of the entire pepsitart debacle, but the problem is that they made it so it only worked when thrust was on but not when falling. Then they killed jumpjets so that you need an obscene amount to do a little hop.

It should have been Parkinson's all the way up and all the way down, regardless of whether you even have jumpjets or not, then kept those jets powerful.
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should I?

you only pay for the decal once to unlock it and then you can put it on every mech you want as many times you want?
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>>169881268
Nah all they had to do was reduce jump jet recharge speed to snail speed. That way poptarting would still be a viable strategy "as it should be" but your damage output would be severely limited, giving closer range mechs plenty of time to close the gap.
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>>169861245
>all that heat gen and laser duration
E X E
X
E
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trying to play a brawler with 300 meter range in tier 4 is making me wanna kill myself..
nobody ever pushes, everyone just runs and hides the first shot they take, atlases that hide behind the entire team..
i cant accomplish fucking anything like this
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>>169884000
and that's why people run long range builds
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>>169884124
but i wanna brawl!
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>>169884202
>4 bays
I forgot how bad it was
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>>169884124
>not buying a huelander-B, and running goosepepsi and splat simultaneously
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wait a second
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>>169885098
that robot is so goddamn sexy..
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>>169885438
no it isn't
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>>169885520
yes it is shut up its the manliest sexiest robot in the game
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>>169885610
the model and textures are stone age ancient and the hue IIC is a million times better looking
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>>169873009
They updated the machineguns to have the higher rate and smaller spread by default.
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>it's a "every one of your teammates dies with sub 200 damage" episode
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>>169874151
They ditched the costs to deactivate nodes but if you want to rebuy one that was already unlocked it's half xp. So a node is 60,000 c-bills and 800xp for initial unlock, 400 xp to rebuy if you deactivated it. Total costs if it is still 91 nodes maximum for one specific Mech variant is 5,460,000 c-bills and 72,800 xp and full respec is 36,400xp, though the latter isn't very likely since most would probably get a good number of nodes set and just respec weapons. Comparative cost from current mastery levels is 57,250 xp for one variant though with the forced rule of 3 is more like 128,750 xp if you only wanted one variant of a Mech anyway. Then the c-bill costs of each variant and however many modules you equipped.
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>>169886184
the total cost of mastering a mech with the new system is less than one module in the current system

kek
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>>169881356
yes, decals are perma unlocks.

CAMO's are either chassis unlocks or specific variant one-off unlocks

Colours are universal unlocks just like decals
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>mech sale
Time to finally buy a Mauler I guess
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>>169886473
top kek
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>>169874909
good. i want my stompy robbitts, and anything that tells the range assholes who want to play turretwarrior online: a tower defence game to go fuck themselves with a cactus is a good idea.

make those fuckers have to Lrn2Drive or GTFO finally.
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>>169887171
the thing is, do you LIKE maulers?

the game should never be in such a state that you feel compelled to pick up a mech just to avoid shitmeching.
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>>169886095
could be worse

>its a CW match of skirmish.

>on alpine
>IS spawns are the shitty side of the map right in the gunsights of the ridge of ranged fuckery
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>>169887497
so how does CW work now?
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>>169887423
I don't have any big IS ballistic mechs yet and the MX90 is probably the best option. Give me that single shot pinpoint damage senpai
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>>169887336
why do you have to be so mad?
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>>169885692
i like the rougher textures..
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>>169888530
he's got a point, MW2 and 3 are slow and sluggish as fuck and that's how it should be to be honest
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>>169849063
>It's only a matter of time before we get the Nikolai Malthus mech.

The SMN-M is that one. We already got it. Summoner-M is described as being Nikolai Malthus' preferred configuration.

Shame it was a loyalty reward, so people can't get it for c-bills yet.
>>
What happened to Shitty Kitty?
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>>169889939
left to try to tear apart another group because she got tired of toying around with the kong beta orbiters (harabec and rancor)
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>>169890162
Haha I remember RancOrion
>>
>lights get utterly anally obliterated by the engine change
>slow mechs become even slower, they can't even be helped by improving engines now
>jump jet tree is as worthless as the niggers that infest this world
>armor & structure tree inflated with pointless "hurr 5% less chance to be critically hit" nodes as well as shock absorbance
>upper and lower chassis rolled into one, not improved one bit resulting in a massive, bloated carcass that resembles Russ Bullock unusually closely
>consumable costs increased 50%. hope you weren't planning on playing without premium time, goyim!
>literally all variants in a chassis have the same accel/ decel values now, meaning you only pick the best variant of that chassis and leave the rest to rot
>good mechs become slightly worse, bad mechs become painful to play with
>MASCs bonuses are great, shame it's stuck on some really shitty mechs and in general the d
>100 tonners are quite frankly frustrating to try and play with. They're now just walking piñatas, unable to get back in to cover and thus forced to either stand still and absorb fire and die or walk forward and die.

Well, piggy certainly succeeded in "making the games last longer."

Now it's going to take 4-5 minutes to meet with the enemy on shit maps like Polar Highlands instead of the previous 3- 3 ½ minutes.

Shame it ends up making the game not fun though.
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>>169890512
"a bloo bloo"
(You)
>>
>>169890512
Inflating the hp tree was utterly fucking retarded. They did it because people were taking it as mandatory, without realizing it's mandatory because mechs are made out of paper and it's still mandatory in it's bloated form, so people will have to waste more skillpoints on mandatory padding garbage like they were trying to turn the game into Path of Healthnodes.
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>>169890735
Could you take Russ Bullocks shriveled dong out of your mouth? It's not pleasant to converse with someone as you're gargling STDs.
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>>169891038
"baww mama"
(You)
>>
>>169890512
>mechs will now be unmaneuverable and tanky as fuck
Only took them five years to fix the game.
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>>169884000
Protips for brawling:
be fast
don't be slow

anything slower than 105kph is not fit for minimaxi 4x ASRM6, 6xERSL, 3xFlamer clam meta brawling
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are there even any asym robytts with 4M on one side and 8E on the other??
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>>169891301
>a battletech game
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>>169892283
Side Torsos and Arms?
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>>169892283
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i really don't think you can get better than 3M on the left and 1M 7E on the right, which is what the Storm crow has
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>>169891301
>tanky as fuck

Except you won't really see the difference because game modes are still 12-mech deathblob versus 12-mech deathblob.

You'll still get obliterated really fast by concentrated fire, in up to 4v4 you will see an increase in survivability, but the lack of mobility makes it so that unless you're holding a trench position sniping from somewhere, you're pretty much going to get violently raped by combined fire. Trading only happens at extreme ranges with ERLL's or ERPPCs now.

Mobility was the one thing that helped players, proficient players, fight against greater numbers and deathblob waves. Removing mobility makes the game into a DPS race - who has the most firepower that they can burn their opponent down faster.
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>>169892913
Great.
>>
>>169892913
Of course in true PGI fashion they have no idea what they're doing, and scale mobility down to the level of shit engines so every mech will be trash instead of scaling it to the level of good engines so every mech will be playable.
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>>169890512
>>lights get utterly anally obliterated by the engine change

How is this a bad thing?
Right now lights feel like they have absolutely no weight constantly hovering with jumpjets turning around instantly and accelerating from 0 to 100% in half a microsecond.
They dont feel like 35 tons robotic war machines at all.
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>>169893470
Didn't you know? Literally any change is bad. People in this thread cry about every single thing they change, yet they still play the game on a daily basis. It's hilarious.
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>>169893583
>cry about every single thing they change
>they still play the game on a daily basis
not even close, my man
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>>169893709
Perfectly accurate, actually.
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>>169893583
Well, I havent benn here long, but that guy clearly has no idea how lights in proper MW games used to feel.
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>>169893761
are you being retarded on purpose?
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i really wanna buy a Tempest..can you help me build it /gerg/?

this is what i came up with:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=11282366f346b1b3c0b3211af25df4d5e62995ba

i plan on using it to peek and NARC and then shoot
optimal engagement range from 200 to 500-600 meters max

i put 4 MPL as self defense weapons against the eventual light harassment

do you think the ammo i put in are enough?
what else should i change?

this is my first time trying to play with missiles so please dont sperg out on me
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>>169895114
>this is my first time trying to play with missiles
then you dont want to buy a tempest
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>>169895114
Shitter-kun, the Griffin and Catapult are better missile boat choices
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>>169895460
so is the trebuchet
stupid amount of quirks
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>>169895460
so i heard..but i really want a Tempest to farm c-bills with hero bonus+premium time

also it has ECM so i dont have to worry about return lrm fire much
>>
Hey /Greg/, how do I Onion Too See? Help me fix this

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=373&l=77968d6e49adc198630b905150c7ef262c78a557
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Which is more valuable, AMS with half a ton of ammo or MG with half a ton of ammo?
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>>169895809
neither, just put on a heat sink and more armor
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>>169896053
No crits for a heatsink and armor is already as full as it needs to be.
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>>169895809
The MG because you can shoot down missiles with it manually anyway.
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>>169896172
lol no you can't
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>>169896134
post build because both ams and mg are shit and literally worth less than sinks or a better engine
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>>169873969
quirks =/= skills
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>>169881356
>>169884202
Marik filth.
>>
>0.06
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169896594
Marik camo comes with the best colors for the Al Dente decal :3
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>>169895610
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=373&l=b55933174e611c2a02d23d287a826945be14ec77

have you tried this?
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>>169897296
>>169895610
You are like a little baby, watch this: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=375&l=ce9434ee7e4f6e568aa3b80e7ae017509272283a
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>>169897659
thats..uuhhh..too much meme
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>>169899205
me me
>>
>it still takes min 9 points to get to at least 60% radar deprivation
>full radar deprivation costs 16 points
>meanwhile it only takes 6 points to get extra +2.1 seconds of target decay
>even with 100% radar deprivation, an LRM faggot will still have 2.1 seconds of targeting time on you.


Guess I'm going to make people cry with LRMs once this skilless tree hits.
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>>169902225
Do us all a favor and go drop in MWO without Radar Deprivation and see how big of a difference there really is.

Pro tip, it's negligible.
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>>169902440
>without radar dep
>against LRMs with target decay
>"negligible"

Yeah, okay.

Did Kong suddenly die off and the plebbit tier 5 trash crowd migrate here or something?
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>>169902610
What, are you too scared to play ONE game without Radar Deprivation?

Just do it you triple faggot.
>>
Can someone with a Bushwacker do me a favor and make this build and take a screenshot of it?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=501&l=1204438db099cebca9c2fe874551ab05f45b055c
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>river shitty
>shitcort
I swear to fucking god what kind of a faggot still votes for this mode OR this map.
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>>169904550
River Shitty and Crimson should straight up be removed from the game.
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>>169903996
>>169903996
>>169903996
HELLO?
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>>169903996
Why do you want someone to do that for you? Do it yourself.
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>>169904731
git gud
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Is MWO supposed to have some sort of aiming lag?

Mechs seems play like I'm playing a console port with vsync on. There's this slight, constant delay when moving the torso.
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>>169907287
You're controlling a multi-ton machine of war. Tank turrets don't turn lightning quick either.
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>>169906958
I don't own a Bushwacker you nigger.
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finally im home..duh..anybody wanna play?
i never played group que
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Why does this game seem oddly p2w... why do clans always stay on top? why doesnt pgi balance the game for the competitive scene? will mw5 even be decent with pgi behind the works?
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>>169907497
Give me a few minutes then and I'll kit that up.
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>>169907597
What did he mean by this?
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>>169907597
>why do clans always stay on top?
Lorewise Clan tech, especially at the invasion, was very much superior or IS tech, In the tabletop you could take 5 IS mechs and 3 Clan mechs, each group with equal tonage, and the clanners will win about 60-70% of the time.

>why doesnt pgi balance the game for the competitive scene?
see above, Clan > IS in terms of combat machine capibility.

>will mw5 even be decent with pgi behind the works?
At least Bethesda isn't doing it.
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>>169907427
Eh sure, a lot of games don't do it, though. So I was wondering if it was me.
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>wait in queue
>get outvoted with an aids map and tarded gamemode
>teamed with braindead fucking subhumans who can't do anything
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>>169908362
Get out of tier 5.
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Oh boy it's the turbo mega tryhard no fun allowed hours.
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>>169908006
so with that logic, why even have IS mechs? if they are just inferior in every way there is literally no point in having them in the game.
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>>169908805
Because both sides sell you dumb fuck.
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>tfw you just want someone to play light mechs with you
>tfw no friends and have to play meme mechs just to keep moving up to tier 1
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>>169909221
keep me posted
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>>169908934
doesnt excuse for poor balance, when pgi doesnt even follow lore correctly. if they are gonna break lore they might as well make the game even, give each side its advantages.
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>>169903996
Couldn't get it to come out quite the way you had your's so I fucked it up somewhere and am oblivious to where the mistake is.
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Autism: https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/246103-omg-how-much-have-i-spent/
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>>169908805
IS needs a higher skillcap to do what is easy in a Clan mech.700+ damage in a Clan Shitmech? Easy. 700+ damage in an IS mech, harder to pull off.

Clan mechs are for tryhards.
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>>169907597
>>169908805
>it's a "clans are op in mwo" episode
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>>169909564
smurfy doesn't include armor or structure bonuses (which cost no tonnage by the way), and I was interested in seeing what the actual model looked like
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Clam pepsi not being utter trash when not mated to goose when?
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>MWO playerbase
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>>169910207
Accurate. I close my eyes and sigh in respite because this is indeed fine, and it's the only thing we have.
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>some stupid fucking niggerfaggot shits vote for frozen city domination
>team just runs in
Fellate a shotgun trash filth
All I wanted to do was to play some fucking games but every match is pure fucking ebola dogshit for faggots, shouldve i even expected anything fucking else
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you can fly really high in a Spider 5V on the PTS right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IKVD-3488Y
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>>169910646
Viper laughs at you.
Also you always fall through the map if you break your legs from a high fall.
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>>169910497
>it's the only thing we have
This is why PGI is able to stay in business. If it wasn't for desperate lobotomites clinging to a lemon just for the IP then maybe we'd have a good Battletech sim and not this garbage
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never ;_;
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>>169910947
No, we wouldn't have anything.
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>>169910959
Don't we already have the Warhammer?
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>>169910959
Make it with lego blocks and horrendously modeled weapons and maybe Bishop Stenier will make a thread about it for you
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Die fucking die youre a blight on everyone living on this planet fucking single digit iq retarded downs aidsspawn fucking garbage vegetable pieces of fucking trash, why the fuck even play the game if yuoure this fucking retarded fucking atleast try to do anything useful you fucking shitfaggotcunts
fucking tier 1 and still everyone is fucking retarded
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>>169911561
Fuck off pardo.
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>>169911130
When you're done with the crystal ball can you ask it some questions for me?
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ELRM when?
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>>169911861
Just move closer.
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>>169911829
Yeah go ahead.
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In MWO terms, what would be the difference between regular LRM and Streak LRM?
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So why did they nerf quirks on mechanical most of which were IS.

But give the skill tree to EVERY mech and clans. Hunchback IIC and Storm crow and Timberwolves look so strong now.
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>>169912195
normal fires over, streak fires straight
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>>169911130
Heffay, what are you doing here?
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KONG revival when
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>>169912195
The Streak LRM would hit the arms and legs of the target instead of the torso, run hotter, and woudn't fire without a lock.
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>>169912639
Nice
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Map voting was a mistake.
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>>169915951
I agree.
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>>169915951
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>>169915951
need more mission types. More objectives and such. Maps...need to be redone.
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>>169917139
Maps have always been the weakest part of the game and their investment into remaking old maps has only backfired as they've made all of them SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
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>>169917948
It's mind boggling that they managed to make terra therma even shittier than it used to be.
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>>169917948
The investments into maps and gamemodes have made the entire GAME significantly worse. I'm not really having a lot of fun with the game anymore because pretty much all the good maps don't have escort enabled, which makes piggy's retarded assbackwards system draft them like fifty times less than the shitmaps, and the shitmaps are almost every map in the game. Every gamemode except skirmish is trash too.
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>dont have gauss, erppcs or large pulse lasers
>cant do anything all game
nice
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>>169919489
ERLLasers still work very well you know.
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>>169920578
>what is facetime
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Man the Zeus is a real piece of shit.
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>>169922501
Please not the autist-bait.
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>>169922589
What? I can't believe a mech this bad is even in the game.
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Name literally one downside of upping spooky limit on PPCs to 3.
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>>169922745
I think they should lower it to firing more than 1 at a time.
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>>169922745
>45 points of accurate damage up to 700 meters away.
>45 points of accurate instant damage up to 700 meters away, with 7.5 damage to adjacent components.
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>>169922745
The shit for brains potatos might actually be slightly dangerous.
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>>169923126
>45
Try 30
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>>169922745
They should raise IS PPC ghost hear to 3 so its actually useful. ERPPC ghost heat threshold should stay at 2
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>>169927376
>30 pinpoint vs 20 pinpoint, what could possibly go wrong
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>>169926657
>forgetting the goose
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>>169927376
PPC and ER-PPC ghost heat threshold should be when you fire more than 1.
Gauss should be limited to no more than 1 per mech, magnetic fields and all that science shit.
Ammo must be stored in the same area as the weapon using it.
SRMs and LRMs should all be one shot weapons, no missile magazines.
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>>169928227
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>>169930629
Just little things that I think would improve the game tremendously.
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>>169927663
>Min Range vs No Min range
>Doesn't sink with goose
>Shitty projectile speed without quirks

I'm sure it will be fine
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>>169932570
Your understanding of the games desgin principals seems tenuous at best
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>>169932829
If you say so.
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>>169932684
>Doesn't sink with goose
>Shitty projectile speed without quirks
Spoilers that also applies to the clan pepsi. 2v3 ghost heat limit would work if the clan ppc actually had real stats instead of piggy's original donutsteel meme splash mechanics.
Which is one of the things they were going to do with spooky heat 2.0 until they fucked even the few good ideas they had up.
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>>169895114
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=ccbd718c1ddf21b27cea0b38a9c2529c3d1a74df

something like this famalam.

lrm's >10 have retarded spread now, so unless you're going to boat lrm's like a motherfucker and have like 9 missile hardpoints full of lrm 10+a you may as well not bother.

this gives you a 20 spread splat from missiles when something isn't shooting at you, and a 2 and 4 1-2 punch with lasers when something is.
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>>169895591
temmpest works great as a bait mech.

>lrm thing
>thing decides it's had enough of your BS and comes to hunt you down
>walks face first into the assault / hvy lance you just happen to be standin amongst, purely by happenstance
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>>169904731


>waa waa waa how dare there be a map that closes off shit so i can't just play turret warrior online : a tower defence game

>a blublublu i need my pepsi goose trade gaem how dare they not make all maps 500m+ open ground to vcover fuckfests

> NUH UH! you can't make me Lrn2DriveMech!!!! i'll just complain like a little cunt about every map that doesn't actively punish anyone NOT rangegame retarding out
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>>169908771

don't you know, if you're not dropping into quickplay / cw with a full meta compliant meta-est mechs FotM team all built the exact same way in the full 12 man premade you've been training with for 70 hrs a week then you're

>playing the game wrong

>No Fun Allowed EVER
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>>169922670
>>169922589

reeeeeeeeeeee

>>169922501
it'd not supposed to be. piggy just hate pretty much anything IS.

besides, Git Gud and learn to use not-the-meta and still do well.
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>>169936149
>defending river shitty
>the map where you can't do anything except hide your whole team on your side of the cidatel because some faggot between buildings is always sniping and you can't shoot back because everything you see is just a mass of ocular diarrea
>the ebin thinkin man's map where both teams sit on the opposite sides of a building before one of the potato farms fucks it and gets steamrolled or picked off
>the magnificently designed map where you can't walk up the ramps from the land side or you'll get shot in the face by ecm pepsiniggers from between buildings that make your eyes bleed, or you'll have gorilla mounts and no JJs so the shitty fucking curb will mess up everything you do on the water side of the cidatel
>the map that randomly becomes even worse if it's night time
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>>169937406
>t. i don't know how to deathball accross upper city or H line as a team focusing down citadel hugging retards / building snipers fags as the team moves because i can't drive OR shoot let alone drive AND shoot

just because you're a shitter doesn't make everyone ELSE shitters too.
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>>169750945
Finally got the achievement Richer then Blake.
Now wat
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Paging Greg, which zoose is best zeus?
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>>169939569
Now go and play a video game.
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>>169939346
Fucking lmao how often do you see that happen, get out of here with your made up shit. Every match on river city ends with either retards making bad trades or yoloing until they die and their team getting mopped up, or the water-side team pushing around the cidatel counter-clockwise and either getting blown the fuck out or rolling the other team.
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>>169939871
are there robots
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>>169939871
>I play as a retard with retards therefore only retrads exist and no one even slightly competent ever plays this game.

If you want to keep crying like a little cunt about a map that doesn't actively punish brawl playstyle and actually lets a team stomp right up into the other team using the ample cover and closed off flanks for a good advance that's YOUR fault.

most groups i drop with are at least aware of the H line or upper city run because they know how retarded the BS you're bitching about is.

>waa waa waa this dumb thing on this one map is stupidly dumb when on other maps that are made for it it's totally OK

seriously?

next you'll tell me bringing <300m weapons to alpine is totally fine and it's the maps fault
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Nascar is my favourite meta.
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>>169940391
If you actually want a map that "doesn't actively punish brawl playstyle" AND isn't complete shitfest on every level, the bog of eternal framedrops, hpg onlyactuallygoodmapinthegame and mining collective exist. If you actually think that's a criteria that somehow excuses a map for being amazingly shitty in every way, then that's just stupid as fuck, you're so dumb it makes me want to play nothing but gauss ppc builds and vote for nothing but polar memelands just to piss off people like you who think horrible maps are acceptable because you don't know how to be immune to lrms by just standing behind a rock.

>next you'll tell me bringing <300m weapons to alpine is totally fine and it's the maps fault
Considering people can't change their mechs or loadouts after they know what map they're going to be on, I'd say that it is the map's fault. And speaking of alpine, it's in the same irredeemable dogshit -tier as river city.
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At least Tourmaline Desert and Grim Plexus have enough cover to move up most of the time.

But Tourmaline Desert has that stupid ridge and spikes which pretty much favor that one side because it's closer to the middle of the map and can peak over the trash pipes and walls.
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>>169942064
The hitboxes on some of the crystals on Tourmaline are turboshit. I don't understand how someone at PGI looked at those and said "this is fine."
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What mad men
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i got a Tempest :3

which build should i try first this:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=63548897d5be63e0fee75fe7a82cf61a72da652d

or this?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=ea6e3ef30eaaff1c3faf157bad9be06f4430f472

is it better to have twin LRM10 and more ammo or twin LRM15 with less ammo?
i have zero experience with LRMs or missiles in general so i really dont know what to do..
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>>169943020
That's a gross oversimplification of what happened.
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>>169943020
I fguking hate the fact that discord
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>>169943557
haha, whatever you say Kaelus.
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>>169940686
Wheeled mechs when?
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>>169943867
Jokes on you I'm a mumble user.
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>>169943557
It may be an simplification, but labeling it as such is an unfair logical fallacy to draw attention away that it is completely true. Not an argument
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>>169943551
Butterbee >>>>> Tempest. You dun goofed.

Though since you're screwed, at least have a little dignity and go with the LRM15s.
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>>169943735
that discord...what? You cut off there before making your point.
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>want to configure Highlander in PTS
>unlock JJ skills on the right hand side
>still can't jump out on Canyon Network with 2 JJs
>unlock all skills
>can jump out but just barely
>drop in a third JJ
>can jump out now with plenty to spare

So I want more JJ time vs. forward thrust? Ups vs. horizontal distance? Is that what I'm getting?
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>>169944730
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>>169943551

neither.

use the one posted earlier.

either x6 medlas and x2 lrm10+a, or 2 llas, x4 medlas and x2 lrm 10+a

anything bigger than an IS lrm 10 has retarded spread now. artemis will tighten the lrm spread to components instead of entire mech.
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>>169944116
no. even on multiple missile hardpoint mechs with lots of slots you don't want to go bigger than 10's due to the current retarded ass spread lrms have

lrm 10 + artemis or less
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>>169945107
Good to know, I'mm drop my 15s down to 10s on my mechs. Just means my LRM Hunchie moves faster now.
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>>169944972
which one?
i cant find it..
ok so LRM10 >>> LRM15

but i really wanna keep muh NARC and a ton of ammo..

what is the right amount of ammo for twin LRM10s?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=90eeaf94f05a7df12616d56c5d6a0160698ff074

i tried to lower the engine back to 300 and go for two LL and 2 ML but the heat efficiency drops to 33%

is it too low?
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>>169945543
You're artillery, it's the scout's job to NARC.

Learn your role. You probably shouldn't be using a LRM mech.
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>mfw watching a bunch of retards try to make a build for an archer
When did everyone forget how to build mechs in this general?
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>>169945746
what if i wanna stay closer to the frontline and use my NARC and get my own targets for me and my team?

i dont wanna hide in the back and mindlessy lob LRMs at 900 meters and never hit anything
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>>169945982
Then you pick a Clan LRM boat, not an IS LRM boat.
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>>169946094
i dont like clan because clanners are all furries and bisexuals
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>>169945746
WRONG.

just wrong.

the tempest is a 70 ton ecm heavy. with 6 laser hardpoints. and only 2 missile hardpoints worth a damn since the third means you lose 2 e hardpoints.

it's a mech you use to cover a heavy lance or assaults with ecm shield whilst unloading your SUPPORT lrms at whatever target isn't shooting at you. MISSILE DOORS bitch.

at anything that IS shooting at you med las and LLas makes w/e it is realise it isn't fighting a LURM shitter.

>>169945543
you're main goal with the tempest is to stay with the other heavies energy weaponing anything close in focusing fire, then using your lrms on whatevers out of range / not shooting at you.

>>169945982
nope. you don't need that narc for that. you should be using lrms at 200-700 m anyway to sync up with the ranges of your 4 medlas, 2 llas.

you shoot at what your team is shooting.
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>>169946183
>>169945982

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=ccbd718c1ddf21b27cea0b38a9c2529c3d1a74df
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here's a shorter ranged brawlier version

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=dc288764363b457c97945eee9baa8e83304e4ad5
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>>169944756
Well if the single skilled JJ can make that much of a difference then assault JJs may be viable again.
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>>169946558
oh goody. Jumpy mech II: return of the poptarts, coming to a mwo cinema near you, SOON(TM)
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>>169945543
Best thing to do with the Tempest, is make it a Brawler with SRMs and M Pulse.

>>169946183
I completely agree with you. IS for life.
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discords are furries
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>>169946797
TS is for people who still have a pager.
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>>169946717
no to the srm's.

because you can't lose missile doors and have the srm packs other mechs have when they put srm's on. you're permanently stuck with those opening doors trashing your armour and upping your crittability when they open to fire. and having a big tall target right up close easy to hit is suicide. that's why you keep lrms there and use them before the brawl / outside the brawl

IN the brawl you should leave the missiles alone so you don't get caught out with doors opened for firing (even if you have them closed they still open in order to be able to fire then close again which is all the time it takes for your srms to MISS due to firing delay AND for your open side T (thanks to the doors) to get critted deleting your xl side and mech from the game)
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>>169946508
hasnt it already been said yesterday that the BEAGLE is just a meme and a shitter trap and does nothing for LRMs that make it worth the 2 slots and 1.5 tons of carrying it?

>>169945746
>it's the scout's job to NARC.

after 3 days of playing this game i have already learned that in tier 4 you cant expect anyone to do their job properly.
all lights rush ahead, die like squirrels one by one and instantly disconnect
im gonna have to do everything myself, in this case it includes getting my own locks and my own targets
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>>169947051
play lights if you think they're so easy shitter-chan :^)
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>>169947051
My squirrel is usually one of the last to die if it's going to be a wipefest. And I'm usually still pushing good damage.
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>>169947051
the BAP is less for the missiles and more for having a 2nd ecm in eccm mode whilst your actual ecm still is counter mode to have both effects at once.

>this lets the retards on your team realise that there are lights behind your team since they will blatantly IGNORE you telling them so, even if they're getting shot in the ass, UNLESS you are also cancelling their ecm AND painting them with R key lock. AND 'enemy spotted' wheel command.

potatoes ARE that retarded.
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>>169946558
In MWO Stable you need 3 Jump Jets to get out with some time to spare on Canyon Network. I have been trying to get away with 2 to save on tonnage for dubs. Otherwise with 2 JJs you're scraping the sides waiting for your jets to recharge.
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>>169947118
challenge accepted
whats a good light hero that prints money?
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I don't thin Shitter-chan even has a Tempest.
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>>169947232

>mfw my 'lights' are deadside urbies with almost max engine std, jj's and x2 erll for ultimate clam trolling

There's no better feel than out trading the silly clam heavy >600m away by stabbing it right in the dmg'd commponent for component destruction whilst it's return alpha either misses you completely or hits your 'glacis' dead side (that has either more, or as much armour, as many heavies and more than most mediums)
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>>169947492
resistance urby.

Dead Side Best Side
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>>169947492
Pirate's Bane. Be sure to post screen shots of your first few games.
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>>169947506
fag
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>>169947812
I love it.
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>>169947812
>spends all this money already
>no mech bays

get your priorities straight
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>>169947282
thats exactly why i want a NARC
to direct fire from my legion of mindless LRM potatoes right to the target i want
i will have my personal artillery lance that will shoot everything i NARC without questions asked
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>>169948019
then use a tag on the ct instead, which still gives you another slot for a medlas / mpl.

you'd still be better off with 2 lasers there doing damage than one narc you hope will cause the potatoes to lurm at it
>>
not liking the dickords
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>>169946639
Actually the skill tree gives me an idea.

Put screenshake and weapon spread all the time when a mech is in the air, but then have some nodes on the JJ tree be about reducing the shake and inaccuracy both when thrusting and freefalling. Then increase the power of JJs.

That way if you spend a lot of points in the JJ skill tree you can poptart almost like old times but will have give up on other skills, plus it still isn't 100% accurate even with maxed anti-shake skills.
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MWAHAHAHAHA

i have found my dream mech

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=148&l=4aaef42b27f1e8a0f9519880261db5c0b2ab3399

>MISSILE COOLDOWN: 20.00 %
>MISSILE VELOCITY: 10.00 %
>MISSILE RANGE: 20.00 %

im gon NARC all of them and then run in when they are stripped and farm components

>inb4 i get rekt by a NARC ammo explosion
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>>169948590
i was being facetious and snarky.

making actual divergent playstyles more viable than JUST
>goosepepsi or bust
is a good thing
>>
Sup KONG, been a while...
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>>169948984
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=148&l=4aaef42b27f1e8a0f9519880261db5c0b2ab3399

>he paid money for this

stop
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>>169949589
Literally wh-
>Sunset Shimmer
You have a shitty taste in pony my man.
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>>169949589
>4G

lol get rekt by skill tree dumb quirkbaby

HBK2Cs STRONK
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>>169949589
>tfw you see your name.
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>>169949589
horsefuckers please go
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>>169949757
Eh, she's best human... I've also noticed it causes less rage than if I'd taken on AppleJack. Really what matters, is that I'm the OG Queen Horsefucker here.

>>169949832
The skill tree will literally do nothing to me, in fact I might see a positive net gain honestly. I've toyed around with the tree on the PTS, I'm not really worried.
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>>169950031

>niggersphere hunchbacks get half their quirks fucked for skill tree

>clammasterrace hunchbacks don't lose SHIT and get skill tree bonuses in addition to clan tech
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>>169950029
Son, unless you know about Connor, and the times KONG and the Pony's worked together, you can right fuck off.
>>
literally wtf does stompy robitts of extreme giantness have to do with fucking pones? ecch, goddamn furfags ffs.
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>>169950031
This gives me an idea, I should rename my prime. or make a second account as Starlight Glimmer.
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>>169950239
>What is 80's mecha action.
>What is Battletech making references to other 80's property's.
>What is pilots and mercs taking on names from what would then be considered vintage earth entertainment.

Do you even 80's giant robots anon?
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>>169950239
Oh and even better, there was a time Hasbro had the Battletech license, so yeah...
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>>169950349

>play vidya from an IP started in a 80's

>furfags defend shitting it up with herpaderp from 2010+

i bet you didn't even watch the original god awful 1980's vileness hat was MLP.

even girl children thought that shit was lame.

ponyfags are a very recent 2005+ phenomenon of degeneracy and horribleness.

You're even worse then the
>xXx420BlazeIt360n0sc0p3L33TGamurrxXx
fags.
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>>169950204
>and the times KONG and the Pony's worked together
That was Kong and ELP playing each other to see who was better. Not you niggers hanging out with us. You faggots also dumped Protection on us.
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Soooo
Should i get the bushwacker?
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>>169951034
this art is so fucking bad
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>>169950678
Actually I did, despite the shit animation and voice acting of the time, the storylines were pretty damned decent, and basically Dungeons and Dragons with Ponys. And it wasn't uncommon for boys to watch it while waiting for HeMan to come on.

>>169950709
There were sortie's for that, yes, but there was also overall discussion of the meta, and working to improve on both sides. I'm well aware, since I was the one that offered the initial olive branch. Not my fault you got stuck with Protection's shittyness. I blame Connor.
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>>169951071
Youre bad.
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>>169951071
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>>169950029
I want a quad mech so I can paint it in pastel colors and put cute markings on it's rear quarter panel.
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>>169950341
I did something like that. My mechs are all shaped like dicks.
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>>169951034
It's a fun mech, it's also pretty damn versatile. And yes, it's good.
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KONG

DROPS

get in video games channel
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>>169952275
>versatile
Yeah because it's a great brawler, and a great brawler, and a great brawler, and a great brawler.
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Kong Strong
KONG DROPS
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>>169954647
I'm not falling for that bait. There are DISCORDIANS in that picture
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>>169954057
Just LRM it up.
>>
How would you organize your perfect 3025 Mercenary Company?

My Company would be organized as follows

Key

CO = Commanding Officer

XO = Executive Officer

LL = Lance Leader

# = Mechwarrior

Bug Lance (Reconnaissance)

LL - Cicada

2 - Wasp

3 - Hornet

4 - Locust

Fight Lance (Brawler)

LL - QuickDraw

2 - Enforcer

3 - Clint

4 - Stinger

Break Lance (Assault)

LL - Marauder

2 - Zeus

3 - Victor

4 - Warhammer

Command Section

CO - Orion

XO - Vindicator

Support Section

LL - Archer

2 - Catapult

HQ Section

Command APC

Medic APC

Cargo Truck

Hoverjeep

Maintainence

Mech Recovery Vehicle

Coolant Truck

Tool Truck

Cargo Truck

Ammunition Carrier

So it comes out as 4X light, 4X medium, 6X heavy, 2X assault.

Having the HQ Section of mechs allowed the commander to effectively command, without sacrificing combat power forward.
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>>169956179
>>>/tg/
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>>169956179
>>/tg/
>>169750945
The enforcer-5P worth getting or stick with another?
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>>169953053
I'd love to but there's a warframe event to help be #1 in right now.
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>>169957045
>implying being #1 matters when the jew devs will wipe out your clan if you are too good

Rip Warbros
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>>169956179
It's been YEARS since I had listings of my old merc companies from when I played Battletech back in the 80s and 90s. This brings back memories. Thank you for making me feel old.
>>
When will they announce the Lao Hu?
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>>169959380
I heard it'll be at the same time they announce wheeled mechs.
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>>169959380
Lao Who?
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>>169960107
Some Koorita or laaaaao dude I think.
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>>169943951
Soonâ„¢
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>>169961657
I want it.
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>>169960107
Loo Poo.
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>>169961657
The original design concept sounded like they were straying too close to an no-arm Marauder. And then they added arms anyway.
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>>169957531
RLY NOW?
>>
new information on the resistance heroes

zoose is loose is getting 2 missile in the right arm AND 2 missile in the left torso!

i'm thinking max engine masc srm ass fucking, are you? only a couple energy points.
x4 srm6+a, lbx10 and x2 llas assault? sound gud to you? an ac20 maybe?
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>>169964430
That's not new information you dumb nerd.
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>>169964430
Also that loadout is terrible, too hot and heavy, and you can't even take an AC20 because it still has the the lower actuator.
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>>169964615
Maybe PGI can introduce the LAC/20 as a stock weapon on the Roughneck that is only 8 crits to get rid of these silly restrictions on 20 point damage autocannons.
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>>169966083
Yup. Yup that is uh, a totally reasonable expectation of PGI my friend.
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>>169966174
Hey they made a custom Mech so there's no reason to not start adding custom weapons too.
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>>169966083
Yeah, like that's going to happen. Hell, we all know the 3060 patch will get pushed back to early 2018, right?
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>>169966479
Since the Pre-Orders for the 3060 mechs will be up this month, or April, that would put the 3060 patch smack in the middle of this summer, July/September.
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>>169966768
I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>169967159
Why would they push back the 3060 content?
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>>169967512
Why would they push back the Skill Tree? Stuff happens, schedules get fouled, delays happen.

I'm cynical about it, but I've also played a lot of Blizzard stuff so I'm half expecting anything good in a game to get pushed back.
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>>169967512
Because it's PGI man, and they're going to run into a lot of issues.
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>>169957531
>>implying being #1 matters
That's all that matters.
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>>169967689
I think the fact they have money riding on it in the form of new mechs that people will preorder enmasse will make them get it done.

Just toss that Madcat MkII in that pack and the preorders will fly.
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>>169967689
>>169967801
They pushed back the skill tree because of player feedback.
3060 grab deals are just money bags that they've been pushing out consistently every single month for years now. All the new tech is just slightly modified versions of already existing content in the game.
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>>169968061
You have a point.
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>>169964615
IT WAS AN IDEA. looking at the information in the updated thingy splat fast builds look like they'll work really well on the hero zeus. srms and a shotgun, with a couple of laser to stab wrecked components' armour
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>>169966768
i'm hoping they have a 3060 tech pack that gives upgrading your engines to lfe tokens or some shit, as well as 3060 IS / clam tech weapon packs and shit.
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>>169966768
Reminder they are probably pushing all the way through to 3068, because a 17 year timeskip is always a good idea. Wonder how the people currently playing as Smoke Jaguars in CW will take it though. Will PGI update the factions to reflect the new timeline properly?
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>>169968342
It's a 80 tonner with side torsos the size of an entire light mech. Have fun with that.
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>>169968514
except the mobility is great. that's the chassis' schtick.

Do the twist again
twist again, like you did last succession war
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>>169968514
plus as was pointed out to me you almost always die from the ct getting cored out anyway, not the sides. so apparently it's actually very xl friendly, and i've found that seems to be true.
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>>169968342
Yeah well you're idea was bad, and you should feel bad.
SRMs and a LBX sounds nice. Or SRMs, some lasers, a FUCK huge engine, MASC, and a dead arm sound cool too.

>>169968421
What?
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>>169968770
Don't get over your head, it's 5 tons above a heavy mech and with no armor quirks. You're not an Atlas just because you're in an Assault.

>>169968834
No, Zeus is the worst kind of XL friendly. The CT is easy to target so people don't accidentally spread damage to the sides, but the sides are also easy to target so if they suspect you have an XL you'll go down extremely fast. Shielding with your arms is also an issue because that's where your weapons are.

You'll have the speed but you'll definitely not be taking much damage. Might as well play a medium SRM bomb.
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>>169968910
without a $$$ techpack of gear it'll take a shitton of grind to make the (event) mc / cbills for the 3060 tech otherwise. do you really want to have to grind out 1500 mc / 20 m cbills for like, ONE LFE?

>>169969163
oh i have no illusions that the zoose is an assault, we all know it's a squishy heavy pretending to be an assault.

it's a glass cannon so you kinda have to use it as one or be stuck being useless with an undergunned std build for super-slow zombying that doesn't improve your survivability much anyway
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ok..my shit meme robot has reached its final form..

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=395&l=28892d6c173e35d3a4a5ac9d1ebe4091c241c62e

>2 LPL = 22 direct fire alpha
>2ALRM10 = 20 indirect fire alpha
>NARC with 12 shots
>720 LRM ammo = 36 volleys with both launchers = 720 dmg only from lrms
>40% cooling without any sort of bonuses

im quite happy with my new creature..
now i only need to grind that 300XL and im gud
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>>169969265
Under gunned for an assault yes, but not under gunned for a heavy which is what it basically is. In fact with STD engines, the Zeus and Orion run the exact same builds with the same speed.

I just don't get all the hype for the hero variant. It's still going to be a Zeus, arguably one of if not the worst assault in the entire game.
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>>169969725
>muh cooling efficiency
>12 heatsinks
enjoy your no dissipation.
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>>169969725
LRMS ARE IMPRECISE SPREAD DMG.

you can use them as support weapons but don't expect them to kill shit for you, you need your lasers for that.
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>>169968421
WTF are you smoking and where can I get some?
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>>169969725
use llas so you can put on 4 more dhs.

you need all the cooling you can get to have a laser boat backed up by lrms. the only time you want a narc is if you KNOW you're going to be dropping in a premade group that'll actually use it.
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>>169969725
Personally I'd say switch to 4 M Pulse Lasers, but that's just me.

How'd your experimentation into light mechs end up going?
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>>169969265
Yes, yes I think that you should have to grind your tight little ass off to get your LFE.
That way it's a natural limit on this power creep tech instead of being instant P2W.
Get fucked, space poor shitter.
>>
>Zeus
Don't try to make it work because it won't. A piece of shit robot will always be a piece of shit robot, the best thing you can do with it is come up with an equally laughable build and just go with it. Otherwise you'll pull your hair out from being frustrated at how bad it is and how hard you are trying to make it not bad.
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>>169970746
but they used to be overperforming
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>>169970043
i fell asleep again last night on my desk while i was browsing smurfy to find a good light mech to buy

so no light mechs yet

i need that 300XL first for the Tempest and then i wanna buy an MX90 while its on sale and keep it until LIght Fusion Engines get released and actually make IS assaults viable
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>>169971324
>he doesn't know
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>>169971324
My advice for the 300XL, look to see if any of the sale mechs come with one. Buy it, strip it of engine and weapons then sell the Chassis. It's probably going to end up costing you less than the engine itself and you get the weapons as a bonus. That's what I did with a Crab earlier today to get the XL 250 I wanted for my Hunchie.
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>>169971424
>XL 250 I wanted for my Hunchie.
wew
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>>169971424
i dont think so
i found on smurfy the Cent D has an XL300 but it costs more than 8 mil
considering the engine costs 4.9 bought on its own and if i resell the chassis and the weapons im not gonna make up for 3.2 mil i spent on top of the engine cost
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>>169970746
i refuse to make MWO, a VIDEO GAME, a second job of 40 hr a week 'training' practice matches, for a group of players that refuse to 'let' you play anything but 'the meta' mech/s ever with 'the meta' builds.

i , surprise surprise, play /v/idya for FUN
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>>169972004
And nobody wants to play with you bringing 80 tons of pile of shit to top tier group queue because "it's fun".
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>>169972272
Good thing I don't then, Huh?

>everyone must play the exact same way or else NO FUN ALLOWED!

man, playing with you must be REALLY great.
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>>169972346
Nobody likes you because you think the entire world revolves around you.
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ok i have found my dream light mech for real

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=148&l=25931da7cd217983ea119d5ba5b242fa81cbe501

i have never played or built light mechs can someone give me some opinions about this?
also i have 2 questions:
for light mechs that need ammo, where is the best place to store them? im kinda afraid of stocking them all in the legs since smart people will probably go for the legs first

second thing: how much rear armor should be used on a light IS mech with XL?
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>>169972659
>ok i have found my dream light mech for real
>i have never played or built light mechs
????
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>>169972385
yes how dare I think that playing with a no fun allowed metashitter who has to make up for being shit by buying the meta-est shit FotM would be NOT FUN for any poor bastard unlucky enough to be forced to play with you.

How selfish of me to empathise with the poor unfortunates forced to endure your REEE NOT META idiocies.
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>>169972819
You've never played in a group because if you had you'd understand that there is limited tonnage available, and you wasting 80 tons on an absolute piece of shit garbage that won't even pull half its weight isn't justified just because you think it's fun. While you're doing that, you're forcing everyone else in the group to play something lighter. Something they might not have that much fun playing in.

But hey, keep pulling 380 damage in solo queue.
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>>169971998
Ah, none of the sale mechs have the XL300? then? Damn. I was thinking with the sale prices at 35% off, might be worth it to get a mech, sell the chassis but keep the engine and weapons.
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>>169973075
he's probably not even getting half that if he loves the Zeus as much as he seems to.
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>>169973075

>EVERYONE ONLY HAS 1 MECH EVER AND NEVER SWAPS TO A DIFFERENT MECH FOR GROUP PLAY OR ACCOMODATES GROUP CONSIDERATIONS EVER

okay fucko. no need to vomit your reee even harder.
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>>169973306
nah, this guy is even worse than a NO FUN ALLOWED guy, he's a STOP HAVING FUN! guy AND a THAT'S WRONG FUN!
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>>169973423
>ACCOMMODATE TO ME! ME ME ME!
See, this is why nobody likes you.
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>>169973578
okay, now i KNOW you're a fucking retard.

you change to the group, dumbass, not one individual within the group.

wow. you must have the reading comprehension skills of a 3 yr old or some shit. go be a fuckwit elsewhere. gaddam.
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>>169973816
The only person in the group considering spending 80 tons on a Zeus is you. Nobody else wants this. It doesn't matter if you bring sub-optimal. People bring Highlanders and Centurions and other shitmechs but the Zeus is far below that. It's bottom tier trash that also happens to weigh 80 goddamn tons so fuck off or bring something else.
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can you all stop fighting?
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>>169974254
kys
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>>169974254
no
>>
>last guy alive is a 100% King Crab sitting on the enemy base
>gets called out on being a useless piece of shit
>starts talking shit like he was playing the objective and that nobody else matters or something
>ends up with 0 damage
Why are Americans so bad at this game?
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>>169976626

because merifat edumacationings tell them they're the best at everything ever even if they sit there doing SFA.

>get 8 fucking kills in my tempest (x6 medlas, x2 lrm10)

>useless faglas shitting it's pants in the rear does <100 dmg calls me a lurm shitter after i finally die taking on the last few mechs
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>>169977117
I really wish the Americans would just stay on their American server.
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>>169977204

>goose pepsi sniper sitting in the extreme ass of the fight , shooting every now and then

>me and three other brawlers assraping the enemy team

>meritard congratulates himself for killing blows as if he got the kills, when eeveryone else got the kmdd's
>>
>4 retarded assaults spend all match killing 2 enemy mechs 700+ metres BEHIND the team doing NOTHING

> team is brawled up against 6+ assaults and heavies right in there faces

>tell ass'es to gtfo into the fight

>nuh uh we're being USEFUL WAY back here DOING NOTHING

>how the fuck is that useful, get the fuck over here with the rest of the team and into the fight

>you're just a shitter we were killing stuff

americans. even when they're wrong and everyone knows it they still claim to be right
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>>169978037


>get called a shitter by a useless assault fag even though i killed 2 heavys/asses

>in an urby.
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>>169978364
I understood that reference.
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>tfw addicted to shitty mixed builds
>>
Lao Hu when?
>>
>HPG
>HPG
>HPG
remove map voting
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>>169980437
Lao Who?
>>
>>169980437
>>169981430
samefag
>>
>>169981282
HPG FIVE TIMES IN A ROW
PLEASE STOP
>>
>>169981282
>HPG more often than once in every twenty games in the post-fagcort universe
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>>169981810
Escort is the best mode though.
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>>169982074
polar highlands escort is the new terra therma conquest
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>>169983137
polar highlands is shit no matter what
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>>169983137
Polar highlands escort is the new alpine/grim domination, except those things are still dogshit too.
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>>169983464
Name ONE map that isn't dogshit.
>>
Should I buy a spurdo?
>>
>>169983696
>Actually pretty good tier
HPG

>Decent tier
Canyon
Mining

>Playable tier
Caustic
Crimson (if your teammates combined IQ breaks three digits)

>It's better than nothing tier
Plexus
Bog
>Low better than nothing tier
Tourmaline

>Fucking why tier
Frozen City
Crimson (in normal circumstances)

>Vote because you enjoy other people suffering tier
Polar (when you're in a mech and build perfect for it)

>Completely irredeemable shit tier
Forest Colony
Alpine
Polar
River City
Terra Therma
Every invasion map

Objectively correct map tier listing.
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>>169984523
>Crimson that high
kys
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>>169984104
try out the 12 JJ one in the public test with that sweet +125% forward thrust skill node. It's a shitmech with only 2 laser hardpoints but it's still hilarious to see.

Little Rocket Man
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>>169985114
>spurdo
>JJ
???
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>>169985436
you know a spoder
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>>169985620
get the fuck out
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>>169985654
Spiaider?
>>
Samurai of the Combine!!

Hear me as I say these words, to remember a once great and wise Dragon. As this day dawns, 14 September, during the year of 2796, we lost one of the greatest military minds the Combine has ever known, Minoru Kurita. He was assassinated on the planet Kentares by the cowardly fedrats who refused to give him an honorable death and sought nothing but dishonor against the majestic forces of House Kurita! While defending the Combine, the Coordinator was leading a counter offensive against the sneak attacks of the cowardly and traitorous House Davion.

You see, our great and ever wise Coordinator was the last true First Lord of the Star League and instead of bowing to his ever great wisdom House Davion attacked in one of the greatest surprise attacks in the history of mankind! The Dragon Mionru himself led the counter offensive, nearly breaking the dishonorable Federated Suns asunder. Fearing his eventual victory, combined with their own inability to win anything even remotely symbolizing a battle, they resorted to terrible and dishonorable assassination tactics. While taking in the beauty of the recently liberated planet Kentares, and in the midst of writing a most mesmerizing Haiku now lost to the ages, Minoru was shot like a common lowborn thief.

His son, the benevolent and kind, Jinjiro, learned of this most murderous evisceration of wisdom from the clutch of the Dragon's claws itself. As he wept in grief, he justly ordered the execution of all who conspired to this most heinous crime!!!
>>
The fedrats will mislead all who cannot hear the true wisdom of the Dragon, into thinking many were massacred on Kentares. But we, who are loyal to the Combine and crave peace and honor above all else, know the truth of the matter. The only massacre that occurred on Kentares that day was the massacre of our most loved Coordinator Minoru Kurita!!

But this is not the only treachery perpetuated at this time by the evil Federated Suns! No, while the Combine grieved the loss of one of it's most benevolent leaders, House Davion sought new treachery. Using ill gotten funds stolen from the orphanages of conquered people, the Eridani Light Horse mercenaries decided to turn against it's most respected employers. But, fear not most loyal Samurai, they were brought the justice of the Dragon on the planet Sendai, before they could wreck much havoc on the Combine, by the infinite and saving wisdom of Jinjiro!

So, when the Fedrats wail the loudest, of remembering, say unto them, "Fear not, for I to remember the massacre on Kentares, and I hear the Dragon calling for justice still!" May all enemies of the Dragon cleanse his sword with their blood. FOR THE DRAGON!!
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>>169984523
>Tourmaline that low
>HPG that high
>Crimson and Caustic above Tourmaline, Plexus and Bog

what bad taste, holy shit
>>
>>169987702
Caustic is easily one of the better maps though.
>>
>>169987048
>>169987126
LMAO space gook
>>
>>169987735
Where can I sign up for your blog?
>>
Davion pattern looks like shit on everything prove me wrong.
>>
I HATE DISCORDERS
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>>169989040
I HATE GAYLUST
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>>169973975
>a mech is available to use in the game
>you can't take that because socalist groupthink!
>this is fun
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>>169989320
hi tier 5
>>
kong?

http://io9.gizmodo.com/kong-retakes-his-throne-in-the-incredible-skull-island-1792897545
>>
Is it true the new tree is going to make assault jumpjets viable?
>>
>>169991529
depends on the chassis it seems.
>>
Kong drops are happening and Kakos Kolos wants you to join!
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>>169995636
Neg
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>>169996172
We already have FIVE people!
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>>169995636
>Kakos Kolos

who?
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>>169996556
Kakos Kolos, the King of Kong!
He wants YOU to join!
>>
>>169989320
You're the type of person that PGI needs to make Tier 6 for. It's something you get put into when you pick shit mechs. There is no way out of Tier 6, you just get placed there and you never get out, lump all of the shitmechs together, you know, like how they put all special needs kids together in one classroom.
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>>169996804
i cant im at work
later this evening maybe
but i donk think you wanna play with me im very bad
>>
>>169997246
Do not trust those finish memes
>>
Why are you guys such fags?
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>>169997409
rude
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>>169997246
Of course Kakos Kolos wants to play with you!
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>>169997409
Because your mother refuses to put out, so we had to make do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA25bjD1QCk&feature=youtu.be&t=184
lookin good
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>>169997149
You mean there can be a tier free of meta tryhards that get high blood pressure over a video game? Sign me up.
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>>169998417
Yep, sadly though you can only use shitmechs in that tier, anything half decent or better isn't allowed. Bad mechs only.
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Quad mechs when? I want my mechanical horse to charge into battle with. I want to paint it pretty colors and put cute markings on it's rear quarter panels.
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>>169998521
So it would properly reflect A BattleTech Gameâ„¢ then. Sounds neat.
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>>169998754
Fucking right, I'd play the shit out of that tier!
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>>169998754
Pretty much, yeah.
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>>169998669
Reposting a repost of a repost repost. Print this out, color it with crayon and rescan to show off your artistic prowess. Make sure it is lore accurate with a Hell's Horses logo somewhere and PGI will make it an official design, maybe adding a working light bar on top too.
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>>169998969
What you're saying, is pony the fuck out if this is what you're saying.
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>>169999075
Also make sure it is firing heart bubbles out of the ass mounted pulse laser to complete the effect.
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>>169999567

Naa, needs Rainbow Lazorz firing out of it's ass, and a unicorn horn.

Then, it will be complete.
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>>169998969
I would so make that mech horse white and purple and put a trio of decals on it's flanks.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=244&l=651dcae4d2d91034f6977935733ec17746678189

redpill me on panthers
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ok im finally home..duh..
is the invite to play together still valid?
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>>170003095
YES!
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>>170003473
No
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>>170003590
YES!
t. Kakos Kolos
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>>170003723
I was just pretending to be kakos

t. Pasta
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>>170004061
What?
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>come home from work and finally get to play robots
>take out my AC20 4 ML phract for some fun brawling
>enemy team has THREE (3) p2w ultimate metacancer tryhard twin gauss twin ERPPC Supernovas

i just..
i dont even..like..why would you do such a thing...
do people actually have fun playing like that?
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>>170004791
>superdoa
>meta
>p2w
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>>170004791
>p2w
oh tier 4
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>>170004982
The broiler is great though. All other Supernovas are shit
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>>170005174
Still only the what, fourth best goosepepsi assault?
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>>170004993
>>170004982
how else do you define a 90 ton clan hero battlemech boating gausses and ERPPCs?
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>>170005610
>kdk 3
>kdk 4
>scorch
>boiler
yeah
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>>170005760
inferior to a 100 ton clan non hero assault battlemech boating gausses and ERPPCs?
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>>170005901
i take you are one of the guys that today sperged out about someone taking a Zeus in group drop
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>>170006651
what? you claim boiler is P2W when it's strictly inferior to already existing mechs that do the same thing
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>>170007435
Everyone knows the p2w of the Supernova is going LRM80. At least for T5 it is.
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>tfw you 1v1 a Daishi hero at knife range in your meme 0XP and shove your massive meaty throbbing AC20 so far down his slutty clanner throat he goes like "P-PLS NO SENPAI ITS TOO BIG IT DOESNT FIT.."
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>>169973975
>disregarding the tru zoose enthusiast in this thread
m80 pls.
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>>170008328
Greg is not allowed in group drops.
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WTF??
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>>170008565
>tier 4 shitters eyes open up to the possibilities of clan LRM boats
that's nothing, you can do LRM120
>>
MRM160 when?
HE-ATM48 when?
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>>170008864
2018
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>>170008669
>LRM120
If only the big guy with his master plan was here
>>
>try to grind a mech
>every match sucks nigger cock
>>
>whole team behind me
>still some enemy trash faggot bitch cunt is shooting me in the back all the time from some fucking hidey hole while the everyone else in my team is just sitting there drooling doing nothing
FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES SUBHUMANS JUST SHOOT AT THE FUCKING ENEMY YOURE STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM
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>>170010490
But...but...but...I'm LRMing at people. I have no weapons other than LRMs.
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>>170010862
hate discordeers
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>>170010862
They dont even have lrms, theyre just fucking retarded filth. Fucking another match thats pure aids from the distended faggot asses of piggy's shitstain mapping team. Democracy is worthless, the average dogshit retarded cunt shouldnt be allowed to even vote for map selection in a videogame. Everyone should just go fucking die.
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>>170011118
>>
Speaking of lurms, is 9LRM5 Archer any good?
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>>170011330
>good
>lrms
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DISCORDEERS WILL BE BANNED ON SITE
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Why is autism still allowed?
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>>170011935
Discord >>>>> everything else.

>>170012067
it's a game about giant robots. It's pretty damn autistic to begin with.
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>>170012185
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Which giant robot is the most sexual?
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>>170012268
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.
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>>170012530
SEXE
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>>170010490
>>170011118
holy fuck you really need to stop getting mad at videogames
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>>170012530
it's the mech that this guy posted >>169998969 How can you deny the unbridled sexuality of that thing?
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>play dakka mauler
>mfw people complain about IS being shit
Maybe they should try not playing stock dragons with single heatsinks.
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>>170017926
>play dakka kodiak
>literally 4 times as much firepower with better mounts
hmm really makes you think
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YO NIGGA WHAT IS GOOD

GIMME DAT SSSSNOVA DEETS
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>>170019938
ARE YOU A DISCORD
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>>170019938
fun
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I just want to play Mech Warrior 3 and the first Heavy Gear games again. Why am I so screwed?
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350 fast enough for a zoose?
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>>170020082
He's a TSer. They're all shitters.
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>hpg
>crimson
>hpg
>hpg
>plexus
>crimson
>plexus
>hpg
>plexus
reee
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>>170021204
yes

t. zoose exbert
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>take XL in Zeus
>die to XL every single time before my CT armor is even gone
why did you guys say this was a good idea this is awful
never listen to /gerg/ again
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>>170023623
Learn to twist
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>>170023053
>not liking HPG
What kind of faggot are you?
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>>170023830
retard
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>>170023869
Probably one of those Tier 5 TS users.
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>>170023869
>>170024078
I want to play other maps too you barneys
voting was a mistake
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>>170023956
t. man who can't git gud and use XL engines in IS mechs
>>
new to the game, Sphere, Clan or Mercenary?
Does it make a difference in what mechs I can buy?
What mechs should I look for first, so far I'm liking lasers over ACs and missiles.
Should I buy some of these 'on sale' mechs so I can get a variety from the start?
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>>170024274
fucking retard
how do you twist damage TO your CT?
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>>170023053
>hpg that often when it's literally almost never even an option now
You're full of shit m8
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>>170024356
You twist damage to your arms, CT, and both STs to make it an equal spread, mostly to your lesser arm though
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>>170024194
I know the feel Anon.

Voting really has caused stagnation in this game.

All that get's picked, is one of the shitty snow maps that do nothing but white out the screen and don't look visually interesting at all, or HPG.

In the event something else get's picked, it took someone who's fed up with the same bullshit gaming the multiplyer to swing it to something that never get's picked.

Combine that with the fact that, while yeah, some of PGI's maps are objectively shit, at least they force diversity due to either atmospherics, or terrain features/obscuring [fog, ect.]

but instead, HPG is basically the no items, final destination of MWO.
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>>170024356
If you don't know how to do that, you're beyond help.
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>>170024437
>>170024584
you must be playing in some shitty ass tier 5 or something for people to actually miss a zeus side torso lmao
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>>170024937
maxed out tier 1 and played probably over a thousand times more hours than you have my man :^)
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>>170025086
and you base the viability of XL in a zeus against opponents who have aim so bad they can't hit the side torso of a zeus, good job retard
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>>170025086
Talk is cheap, prove it.
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>>170024556
That's why HPG is the best map. No retardedly broken terrain hitboxes and faggots hiding behind them, no dirty poo in the loo air that makes your eyes hurt, no foliage or fog or night time other shit that makes you use nearsighted vision modes and lets unseen fags hide out at the other side of the map sniping at you, no massive performance drops because of the above aren't on the map. Same goes for Canyon Network.
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>>170025086
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>>170024937
you use the much better twist and pitch the xl gives you to spread to dmg over the entire torso instead of twisting and taking on just one Not-the-CT location.

a lot of mechs get MUCH more survivability out of this spreading than conventional torso twisting since it preserves components that have wepons on them longer allowing you to put their dmg into other mechs.

>>170025234
it's an assault, you're GOING to get hit, full stop. the big xl means you can share out that dmg around all the components and have a less weighty engine for more guns, whilst being faster.


also it seems the zeus side torso's are actually just the HUEG shoulder joint and then the tiny little vertical mounts section under it where lasers go on one of the side t's. the ct actually seems to be MUCH wider than it looks on the mech so actually unless they're hitting them shoulders all the time, yeah, they're probably gonna miss your side t and hit the ct instead.
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Shit son, you get to grab a bad ass deal, whichin you want?
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>there are people in this thread who can't torso twist in a zoose
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>>170025576
Actually there's some bullshit in the map, it's just not as bad as some of them.

That being said, it's not an interesting map, at all, I'll take Forrest Colony ANY FUCKING DAY, over HPG at this point, just because it never get's fucking picked.

It actually makes me laugh, that idiots like you gimp yourselves with your map choices, then whine when someone like me games the system and causes Terra Therma or Casutic to get picked and you can't hande that shit.
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>>170026275
>>170026375
>tier 5
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>>170023623
i DID listen to /GERG/ and you must be really fucking shit, because i'm not a great pilot or anything and i'm loving the twist and spped the xl's are giving my zeus's.

my dmg, kills, kmdd, assists and so on are all up accross the board. i'm winning duels against mechs whilst surviving fire from their friends...

FAR FAR better than with std.

as
>>170023830
says.


It's all about the twist.

you gotta shake the ever loving fck out of your mouse when you're gonna take hits so they can't put it all on one component, you spread that shit out over everything
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>>170026513
>tier 5
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>>170026343
Which mech do you want to grab by the pussy?
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>>170026487

>a general technique known to most players expanding on the twist-to-take-hit-on-something-non-vital playstyle by spreading-the-dmg-over-all

>developed by the bleeding edge comp meta shenanigans of full 12 mans vs full 12 mans in t1 play

"nuhuh you're a shitterer for using it on your I HATE YOUR MECH BAD MECH IS BAD!"

next you'll tell us that we're just not allowed to have or even think of using a zeus ever under any circumstances, despite them being totally viable (Heavy) mechs

>STOP HAVING FUN, GUYS!

>Stop being useful to w/e team your on despite being in a shitmech!!!! REEEEE
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>>170026513
>STD in a Zoose
enjoy going slow as fuck
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>>170026916
>plays in a tier so low people miss an assaults side torso
yeah, that's a tier 5 alright
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>>170026616

Is this your only "arguement"?

>nuh uh u r a bad

??? fucking seriously?

it's the t1 guys who've been telling people that they can do more with torso twist than simply turn away from hits for ages now.

look, just because you're a retard, doesn't mean other people aren't going to LISTEN to other, better players, advice, try out how those tactics / techniques / setups work for them and get used to it themselves in order to improve.

>>170026967
yeah it was, had to take fucking HEUG std to not be outmaneuvered by drying paint. the XL's suggested by gerg work out SOOOO much better


>excuse me while i be faster than the meds in my 'assault' (really just a heavy mech)

>>170026973
have you just been purposefully not reading or are you so dumb you cannot read the fucking thread and comprehend it?

they don't miss. you use the great torso twist and pitch rates to shake your top half fast enough that the hit doesn't do even 1/3 of it's dmg to the side t, and spreads almost uselessly over both arms, torsos, and the ct.
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>>170027369
Post your Zeus stats hotshot.
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>>170027497
did you not just fucking read that i didn't CLAIM to be a hotshot? ffs. now i KNOW you're stupid.

>u r a bad so dat fing that everyone can do to live longer in matches totally never happens and no one uses it evar.

go fuck yourself you retard.
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>>170027770
Post your Zeus stats what's the problem? Do you not know where to find them because you are so new?
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Besides Greg (who is a shitter), is there anyone else in Kong who has even played a Zeus?
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>>170027967
W O W

R U D E
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>>170026481
>it's not an interesting map, at all
I have to disagree with that for multiple reasons. First of all, it evens the playing field for mechs that have bad mounts because the map is mostly made out of geometrical shapes and sharp angles, most maps just screw over bad mechs worse.
Second, you can play any range or weapon system on it, even lurming is somehow possible if you attack from the correct spots and flanking angles.
Third, it's the exact opposite of almost every other map by putting the best spot right in the middle instead of an exposed guaranteed death fuckzone.
Fourth, this game is generally played by people who want to shoot robots, and the map lets people no-nonsense shoot robots without raking them over the coals with negative QoL features.
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>>170028035
You're shit, Orions are shit and Zeus is shit.
At least Haruko has good taste in robots.
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>>170028059

>First of all it even's the playingfield for mechs.

Then go play fucking comp in one of the leagues, you tryhard piece of shit.
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>>170027826
it's got nothing to do with me you flaming tardbrain.

spreading damage accross your entire torso is an entirely valid tactic employed by pretty much everyone who isn't a fuckwit like you.

unless they're running std assymetrical build and have 'deadside' to take the hits.

everyone else who doesn't suck, spreads.

just because you cannot actually counter the arguement because it's right, doesn't then follow that you can invalidate it by going

>this one guy who says it is a bad therefore the entire thing is bad and not true and no one in the entire game does it ever.

you're using insane troll-illogic to try and refute the irrefutable.

>>170027967
and ffs you dumb shit, it isn't even about the zeus.

any mech that has narrow enough side t's can be very xl friendly if you twist like a futhermucker.

big, easy to hit mechs are made FAR more survivable by not merely turning fast to take hits on a different location, but shaking left and right to spread the hit over all components to reduce the dmg to any ONE section to a pathetic amount of dmg. it's a universal fucking tactic.
>>
Someone gib link to Kit's furry discord
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>>170028467
Why can't you post your Zeus stats? Do you have something to hide?
>>
>>170028638
DISCORDEENS WILL BEANED
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>>170028189
Okay hotshot, then what's classifies to you as a mech which holds both utility and aesthetic?
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>>170028272
Am I seriously trying to argue with someone who thinks mechs getting screwed for retarded meta reasons is a good thing and they should be screwed even worse? And the comp tryhards pretty much just play mechs with good mounts, I fucking wonder why they do that.
>>
>XL in a BRAWLING IS assault
lmao has it been so long since you guys have brawled that you've totally forgotten how the game works like wow
>>
>>170028707
because it's immaterial to the 'discussion'

> ur a bad

is not a counter to

>this is a very simple tactic everyone who isn't a fuckwit uses in the game.

it's got nothing to do with me you flaming reject from reality.

>>170028939
yes. yes you are. i read your whole post and he clearly fucking didn't.

i especially love how one of your key points was the mount location issue the hpg makes not a problem with the boxes etc...

so fucko tells you to

>go back to ultra comp metaest play then tryhard

like an idiot.
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>>170029157
>he thinks you can spread goose pepsi damage
aww cute
>>
>>170029050


are you going to start lulzing and demanding IS brawlsaults use std's so they're slower and can't do the one thing that let's them survive to brawl?

>i'm totally not a clam shitter who got buttfucked by IS hvy's and ass's runnign xls twisting like motherfuckers so my team of goose pepsi range game fuckos couldn't delete them before they got into range and then we all died to brawl stronk. So i want every IS to use std's and be slow as fuck and not be able to turn at all so i can just stand 900m away as a turret playing my whack-a-mole tower defence game from my super exciting clam turret.
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Don't reply to people who you think are retards. They won't learn, you won't feel better.
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>>170029427
Do you know why nobody laughs at a Zeus when they see it has an XL, like you do when it's an Atlas, a Stalker or a King Crab or even an Awesome? Because the Zeus isn't even worth it, it's a goddamn piece of shit no matter what. Putting an XL in it is doing it a favor because it allows your enemy to put that miserable excuse of an assault down faster.
>>
>>170029278
yes you can.

the ppfld means that if you see the mech turning to you you can start your spread shake and the hits will usually go to components other than the side t, because you're not spreading the dmg, so much as ruining the aim of the human trying to kill you. so it doesn't matter that all that dmg is right at the front, because you're putting your vulnerable side t NOT where the front of that ppc blast is going to be, nor where that little slug is gonna be.
so instead of taking goose then 2 pepsi on a side t you take the three hits on three different locations
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>>170029746
awww so cute
>>
>>170029697


the key point that has been made by many other people. is that the zeus is actually very xl friendly because of spreading and increases survivability. and std actually lowers it.

>50-60 kph assault that can't turn or twist or spread fast enough to mitigate anything always getting it's side t's blown off to become a walking stick of useless way to early in the match to have done anything useful

>70-80 kph assault that can spread everything and move where it's need and get in and out of trouble fast enough to be useful to the team

the difference is huge.

no one is saying your side t's are going to go unmolested. big assaults are going to get hit in the side t. the big xl in the zeus however, let's you mitigate the inevitable hits by spread it accross everything instead. the std turn rates are just so bad you will lose your sides and have no weapons before you can do SFA
>>
>>170030272
and XL means you get alphad twice in the side by any single person who is competent because at the end of the day you can't keep twisting forever and you need to point and shoot at the enemy at some point and now you can't take a single shot without risking imminent death

you're basically a medium except twice as big and not as fast, it's a complete waste
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>>170029850
>pic
And if it doesn't have one it will just take one off of you.
>>
>>170030630
Why does the Atlas have only three fingers?
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>>170030798
>thumbs aren't fingers
It's easier to draw four fingered hands.
>>
>>170030619
except the zeus actually has narrow side t's meaning those 'alphas' will most likely hit the arm AND ct and even the other side t as well, turning the DELETE THIS most of the time into the dmg a light or med would do.

as i have said, it's not about not getting hit, it's about degrading the efficiency of those hits with spread to a point they become far less dangerous.
>>
>spend an hour making halo furry avatar
>game canceled
Fuck everything
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>>170030798

Because Atlas only needs 3 fingers and a thumb to fuck your day up Anon.
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>>170030954
It would be even easier to just draw two fingers and a thumb.
>>
>>170030798
The 4th finger in humans and other primates is there to stabilize the hand when gripping by providing a broader contact surface, which prevents the hand from rolling or slipping. This is very important for a tree dwelling primate like a monkey or chimp, but serves less purpose for humans since we dont need to support or bodies from tree branches using only our hands and so the pinkie finger has been smowly atrophying over teh centuries. Similarly a mech wouldnt need a pinkie finger for that reason either, so there is no real reason not to go with a less complex 4 digit hand that offers the minimum of effective dexterity needed to slap a bitch silly or pick up a severed arm to hit you with.
>>
>>170031569
>tfw no lyran scouting mode that's just 12v12 100-tonners only
>>
>>170031837
Yeah, I just now noticed my Kodiak has a thumb and three fingers.
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>>170031097
Tell that to the magestic pepsi goose
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>>170031925
You know what I want more than anything in MWO...

Puretech matches with only clan v clan, or IS v IS.

I'd love "era" play to, to beable to queue for QP but select 3025 tech only, would be a fucking dream come true.

but it'll never happen Anon, the potential of this game will never be realized.
>>
>>170031925
It was called early beta
>>
What the hell is a Pepsi goose?)
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>>170032529
Here's a hint.
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>>170032482
Yeah, but that was 8v8 100tonners only, not 12v12.
>>170032529
pepsi=ppc
goose=gauss

pepsigoose= ppc gauss build.
>>
>>170032529
PPC Gauss
>>
That doesn't make any sense. Pepsi goose sounds dumb.
>>
>>170032575
Tonnage restrictions were added after 12v12 I think. I can still remember dropping against full teams of 2xPPC 3xAC/5 poptarting highlanders in the group queue
>>
Why is it when you call out that there's 2 enemy lights coming in and you give the grid co-ord they're coming from, the two mechs with you run away?
>>
>>170033298
Because fighting light mechs is a fucking nightmare for 99% of builds and mechs in the game and nobody wants to do it. Especially when you're in an assault and you literally can't torso twist low enough to even see what they're doing.
>>
>>170033643
dual goose dire's deal with lights well enough. Just pop em as they run infront with arm mounted goose and watch them run like bitches, or pop.
>>
Are all current giant robot games multiplayer based? I miss the days of being able to play a good single player campaign every now and then.
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If you trust PGI enough to throw them even a few feet. Mechwarrior 5 which is set to release next year sometime, is supposed to be singleplayer only. And the Battletech turn based game likely will release this year.
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These are the same retards who cry about Star Citizen prices and then do this. The hilarious part is the guy who talks about how his car was stolen.
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