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DAWI ZHARR

Worship Khorne

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Rock the... boat?

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Third for Historical Total War is fun

>>169733873
JUST SPAM FOOT SQUIRES BRAH

FOOT SQUIRES KILL EVERYTHING EVEN WHEN OUTNUMBERED AND ON FIRE BRAH

>>169734063
shouldn't they be called wagons?

I AM KING HERE.

>>169734063
That had to bring home the Golden Demon

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Re-dumping w/ names this time.

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>>169734014
FOR HASHUT!

>>169734140
Looks like a cart to me

>>169733762
What the fuck actually triggers the harsh trait? I've gotten it when occupying a settlement.

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>racing against Mannfred in fucking over Templehof so I can surround him and force him to confederate

This campaign is all sorts of unholy fun. Better than Bretonnia with it's 50 handicaps.

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>Gobbo Archers

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hey boyos, so currently my mousillon reskin manages to reskin ALL vampire subfactions ROR and not just the mousillon ones. considering they aren't heroes I should be able to make them affect mousillon only but there is a caveat.

the regular ror unit appearances kinda suck dick.
what's everyones thoughts on this for those that use the Mousillon reskin.

its here in case you don't have it and you are curious.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699310314

Any true understanders have advice for the the shogun 2 naval historical battle?

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>Install the newest version of DeI
>Play three games in it
>In every single one Rome spirals out of control in the first 50 turns and conquers all of Gaul, Illyria and Greece without ever going to war with Carthage
>They have a shitton of full stack armies and they get to overextend without penalties

Is this shit happening to anyone else or am I losing my fucking mind

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>play as Bordelaux
>Expect Alberic to be some beastly melee lord
>Realise he has the single best economic trait in the game
>Consile him to be head merchant of Marienburg for all eternity
what did CA mean by this?

>>169734168
Bless you.

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>>169734157
>>169734426

Tell me anons, who should represent the dinosaurrmen when the time comes? Assume you only get to pick 4, three in the base game and one after waiting months for DLC. I fyou don't know the lore feel free to choose on aesthetics.

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Was it always like this?
I never played a faction so far away from Chaos, so I always ended up kicking Chaos ass as soon as they appeared.
Now I'm seeing 6-7 stacks raiding the Empire and HOLY SHIT, I hope Franz earns me some time cause my economy is still shit.
I'm expanding towards the south, only the capital of Estalia left, but I don't know if I should move an army there to get it.

>>169734319
> The Moot

Enjoy your vampire midgets

>>169734482
Have they updated the steam workshop version yet? Or do I still need to keep manually updating through twcenter?

>>169734168

What kind of creature is he riding anyway?

>>169734593
he is a warrior-merchant, that bonus vs large is fucking great

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>>169734652

Same for the Reddit Rats.

>>169734690
No idea because I'm a [/spoiler]pirate[/spoiler]

>>169734749
Taurus I believe it is called. Its made out of Sorcerer-priests

>>169734652
presumably 3 lls

1 fat toad mage guy

1 melee focused guy who can get a trex

1 other guy who can fly

>>169734847
1 who starts in the old world

1 who starts in the new world

>>169734652
Mazdamundi, Kroq-gar, Chakax Khan, and Tenehuin as DLC. The first two fit the wizard/fighter types that a lot of factions have going on, Chakax is just awesome, then Tenenhuin can have a meme campaign where he can't recruit saurus which is suitable for DLC.

>>169734014
how many hundreds of years has this been tested for?

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

Divide et impera 1.2 is fantastic, get it now, shit is cash.

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>Still somewhat new to Warhammer.
>Attack Orc capital city as Dwarves
>Enormous garrison, but no armies nearby, decide to rush the siege and attack right away with 2 catapults.

>Orc towers fire fucking multiple canon rounds per volley, absolutely DECIMATE my forces before I can even get them close to the gates.

The fuck am are you supposed to do? I'm not exaggerating when I say within 30 seconds of the battle's start several units of mine were already at half health because of those ridiculous towers.

>>169734652
Chakax, Tehenhuain, Mazdamundi.

>>169734847
Thanquol, Snikch, Ikit.

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AWWW YISSSS

Okay, let's say you're facing a battle where you're about to be powerfucked by wood elves. And you can get a damsel with two skill points and a prophetess of beasts in the mix by exploiting game mechanics.Life, heavens, or beasts for the damsel, and what should I put the second point in to?

Currently doing all quest battles with the set roster, does anyone have tips for sigvalds battles? They are the only ones i cannot win after multiple tries.

>>169735247
You're supposed to build siege towers. Either that or have enough reinforcements to soak the damage. You're not supposed to be able to rush siege capitals.

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>>169734749

>>169735302
>vampire confederation
Hold up. Is this just for Vlad Daddy?

>>169735247
>deploy to one side so only 1-2 towers can hit you
>place lord in front to tank hits
>kill tower(s) with artillery
>proceed at your leisure after that

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G O B L I N S

Is there a way to get the DLC´s for free?

>>169735247

Capitals get automatically upgraded towers and garrisons.

Don't them without building siege equipment or a lot of artillery.

You could probably have cheesed it if you wanted to though.

Just put all your troops way to one side so it's only in the firing range of a single tower.

Then walk your lord out in front of all your other stuff. The towers will shoot at the lord and only your lord, doing little damage and missing most of the time, this will give you time to shoot the tower down with your catapults.

>>169735460
Mannlet can do it too

Finding Mousillon at a point where they'll confederate is a bit of a pain though; I had to wait for them to lose two battles against Bretonnia (who were stuck in a single fort lel) sequentially before they'd confederate

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>>169735107
Many!

>>169735302
If he dies you'll never be able to recruit him again.

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>CA makes maps huge as fuck
>armies aren't big enough to even remotely fill them
>battles don't last long enough to successfully maneuver things around

>>169735247
You wait it out or bring siege equipment.

>>169735362
>>169735479
Cheers guys. I figured it wouldn't be so well defended, being fucking green skins and all.

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>>169735489
G O B L I N S

>>169735107
I don't think Chorfs are quite as anal about that sort of thing.

>>169735610
Warhammer maps are tiny m8

>>169735321
Life and the healing spell. Focus on using it on your cav as they tend to drop unit models less often

>>169734652
All i know is I'm calling a Tehenhauin vs pestilence mini campaign

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>mfw the errantry wars final quest actually feels properly epic
>mfw stopping the end times before they even begin in game

>>169735610
You can do a lot of per-fight maneuvering in many cases, especially on the attack. You'll also see that the maps aren't that big if you have a 3v3 with full stacks.

>>169735787
>implying

I'm assuming you are talking about the greenskin one, because the chaos one was absolute shit.

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Cataph the absolute madman did it again

Did you know Alejandro has a hot tall cousin?

>>169735787
All factions need a battle like this ASAP. In fact a really hard battle rounding out each Chapter would be awesome. But a climactic finale would be just as good.

>>169735683
Do not bully the goblins.

>play with trainer
>game is boring after 2 hours
>wew
>don´t know what i have expected

>>169735889
Well sure, they could've upped some of the troops, but it still felt great beating the shit out of Archaon and his gang of losers.

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>>169734593
What are those cloth rings on the upper part of helmets called?

>>169735590
Getting access to him in the first place is much of the point

He's an absolute beast in lord vs lord combat

>>169735923
I was really fucking confused at first.

>>169735923
French and spanish are both romance languages anyway.

What if the supreme patriarch and the supreme enchantress had a baby?

>>169736041
I'm curious too.Their function seems to be to keep the steel helmet from heating up in the sun, but i am probably mistaken.

Why would I use necromancers as my generals over vampire lords?

Vampire lords cast spells too, but also kick ass in melee.

What am I missing?

>>169736179

its fashion

>>169734847

Who's the dude on the far right?

>>169735302

Did you just make nice with him, or bullied him like you do with Manny?

>>169736179
It's just heraldry aka medieval fashion / proudness of your house.

>>169736286

>Why would I use necromancers as my generals over vampire lords?

You wouldn't.

Necromancer heroes are good though, mostly because you get a 2-in-1 deal with a Corpse Cart

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>>169736298
>tfw no effay donut on my helmet

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Red pill me on how useful free company militia and Flagellants are.

>>169734652
Mazdamundi, Kroq-Gar and Tenenhauin (Tetto'ekko as DLC)

>>169734847
Thanquol, Ikit Claw and Lord Skrolk (Queek as DLC)

>>169736179
>>169736041
Torse.

>>169736286

Necromancers get corpse carts, and a special "heal your units even more" skill point that's unique to them I believe.

>>169736318

Super Vermin Lod from End Times.

>>169736435
1500 is the sweet spot for me.

>>169736331
made nice with him
got a military alliance
declared war on bretonnia
made peace with bretonnia on my side
let them bloody his nose then confederated

I felt quite lucky he only got pushed back and didn't get wiped out

>>169736463

Free Company are absolutely based in the early game, especially if you get the Honest Steel skill.

Flagellants are a lot more niche, I don't usually find that they're worth it

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>>169736469
>Torse
ty

>>169736469
Thank you kind sir.

>>169736573

Absolutely cunnin'.

Gonna try to get the four vamps myself now. Though I want to expand north quickly as just resettling the world that chaos streamrolled through is a bit of a bore.

>>169735534
Some people had succes with CreamAPI, but I'm a good goy so can't vouch for it

>>169735776
I could see a red crest subfaction for lizardmen

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>>169736041
The cloth is called a mantle, used to display heraldry and colours. The ring is called a wreath, and is just used to keep the mantle in place on the helm.

Part battlefield identification system, part fashion symbol. It's the Western take on the sashimono, serving the same purposes.

>>169736286
The real question is why would you use vampire lords as your generals over Strigoi Ghoul Kings
>gets access to the best spells of both death and vampirism lores
>gets a supercharged version of raise dead
>gets the best mount

>>169736463
A line of flagellants will hold basically forever. They won't win you any battles but they can plug gaps effectively and if you're cycle charging anyway you could just have you main infantry line solely composed of flagellants. Free Company are hybrid melee/ranged. I don't personally see the advantage over handgunners, because range > everything, and you shouldn't be allowing them to get caught in melee anyway, but it gives you a little more leeway if you're sort of scatter brained and can't micro your ranged effectively.

Why is it so satisfying to 2v1 Mannfred with Vlad and Isabella?

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>tfw confederating with Brettonia factions and get access to Tier III buildings faster than I could've saved the money up for or build
Beautiful. Also, when the Brettonians try to impress the Lady they just fuck up every time.

Who do I go after as Empire after finishing off the secessionalists?

I want to fucc Attila

>>169736872
the jews

>>169736872
Swamp jews.

>>169736872

Marienburg, for the port money.

>>169736747
Ty

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>>169736874
Me too anon

>>169736896
You mean the sassanids right? Fuck persia and their billion of vassal stacks

>>169736896
>>169736929
>>169736949
Should I do the quest first or just save that for later?

>>169736896
Calm down Teutogen.

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>Free company are sh-

>>169737018

Getting an early mage is handy, and you have to get a full stack going and see if you can lure the shits out of their city anyway.

>>169737018
Do it first so you can roll out your Battle mage and start levelling him.

>>169737018
I leave off the quest until I have decent artillery+cavalry but you can take it as soon as you have 20 units of whatever really; it just wont be loss-less

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>>169737013
wrong game friendo

>Brettonia is literally the most fun fac-
>everything is a peasant
Jesus Christ, CA

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>>169737073
>Free Company
>you have to pay them

>>169737187
You can never go wrong with attila my mate

>>169737073
Free company are great for ambushes but pretty useless otherwise

>>169737235
why even build brothel
>>169737232
should of started as the fay enchantress and gotten the tech

>>169737307
This so fucking much.
Best Total War ever.

>>169737235
Does showing how you got the trait work for all factions or just bretonnia?

>>169737335
>why even build brothel
It is supposed to be France.

>>169737235
ayy gotta please the baguette once in a while you know

Can i man archers fire on a designated area like catapults or do they have to select a unit for tww

>>169737303
freedom ain't free you dirty commie

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>>169737235
Also

What do ?

>>169737431
Currently a Bretonnia only gimmick, but there's the possibility of CA backdating it to other factions.

>>169737464

They have a cone of sight and will fire onto things in them automatically.

>>169737235
Can the Enchantress get that trait?

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Played all of the total wars except Attila, is it worth the buy/pirate?

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>>169737539
That's fucking stupid. It really should be expanded to every other faction.

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>>169735247
>>169735362

Automatic cannon towers are retarded. That should be reserved for only the strongest of capitals. Also only for certain factions like the Empire.

Sieging a city with ladders only really should be more effective, as that was the primary way to siege a city.

>>169737534
greenskins

>>169737464
You can't fire at empty ground, afaik.

>>169737431
Just bretonnia I think

>>169737539
Hopefully it can be modded in, there's already been a mod that made Isabella like the Green Knight and can be summoned by Vlad so she can be a free legendary hero.
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=874361409

>>169737434
Where are the black guys and the constant strikes then ?

>>169737303
>Black coach
>it's not Samuel Jackson

bravo CA

>>169733924
>King of Darkness
Dude, it's just Konrad.

>>169737732
I want Abhorash to work this way.
Also Grombrindal.

>>169737646
True that, ladders are such a death trap except if you send elite units vs shit tier on walls.

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>>169737639
yes
>>169737743
in the US

>>169737303
>Quarrellers
>They're actually quite agreeable

>>169737743
Beastmen.

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>>169736573
>>169736331
>>169735302

How did you guys get Mannfred to confederate with you?

I have him surrounded and only owning Castle Drakenhof, but I am only 30 turns in. I've made a trade agreement with him and enabled military access between us, but I won't do a defensive/military alliance.

Should I give him gifts or should I demand them? Should I send 2-3 stacks into his territory and intimidate him?

>>169737856
GROOODGE

>>169737639
Yes.

>>169737559
Idk man the amount of times they refuse to fire on something the entire unit could fire on vs when 2 of them are firing through the front line always seemed pretty high

>>169737856
>Chaos warriors
>Perfectly lined unit formations

>>169737871

What I did was ignore him till he left Drakenhof, then kill his army, wait for him to re-recruit a lord and sit in his capital, then besiege it.

He should replace the generic lord with mannfred eventually, and as attrition sets in, he should become more agreeable to confederate eventually.

If that doesn't work, either sack Drakenhof and wait for the faction to spawn another lord, or lift the siege and resiege.

>>169737639
Its only one of the best if not best TW game

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>>169737534
wait,this it?this is the ''victory'' quest?

>>169733924
How long until the next real Total War game

>>169737856
>Great Swords
>They're just alright

>>169738136
Well, you also get a quest battle depending on whom you decide to attack.

>>169737639
It's what Rome 2 should have been

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>starting a VC campaign as Mannfred

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So, rank the 3 Bretonnian LLs, /twg/.

4 mortars or helstorm rockets?

>>169737534
greenskins, the chaos one is not even as big as your typical battle vs the chaos invasion and isn't as good as the greenskin one

>>169737639
yes

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>>169738336
>>169738084
>>169738000
>>169737850
What's so great about it? I didn't really get into Rome 2 is it better? Essential mods?

>>169738080

wait, if you make him your enemy you can sitll confederate him?

>>169737856
>Organ gun
>Doesn't shoot high velocity offal

>>169738428
King Louen Leoncouer > Fay Enchantress > Alberic de no Trident

>>169738428
Louen>Louen>Louen

>>169738565
>Doom divers
>Not in scuba diving gear

>>169738509

Yeah, though they're less likely to accept it, unless faced with getting wiped out.

It takes quite some time and resources, but it nets you Drakenhof and Mannfred. And the vampire start is rather slow anyway.

>>169738589
>Notre Dent

Isn't that a cathedral in Paris?

>>169738669

If you confederate with Mannfred alive, does that grand you access to recruit Kemmler and Ghorst too? Or are Von Cartstein permanently locked out of getting them unless they are already on the field?

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>>169738503
it just works

>>169738503
much more polished, although the campaign experience isn't as open-ended as some total wars due to attila showing up and fukcing shit up no matter who you play. Age of Charlemagne is also a fantastic DLC, and is well worth the price

>>169738565
>Knights of the Blazing Sun
>Don't charge into battle wielding incomprehensibly hot balls of plasma

>>169738761

You can't recruit any of the LL's, just the ones that are alive at that moment. Theoretically you could get all 3 of them, but that takes some serious planning.

>>169738503
Literally everyone better, even dlc are better

>>169738819

>Witch hunter
>There are no witches.

>>169738819
>Pegasus Knights
>not Pegasus that've been trained to wield lances and wear great helms

>>169738024

it's mostly poor ai at that point, they tend to fire at what's closest which is often the melee front line and they won't fire into friendly fire, sometimes you'll need to controll it yourself.

How do you take Marienburg as Empire?

>>169736638
>SPLINTED BREASTPLATES
>(FOR SHIPBOARD (=ANIMES)

wat

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YES ! YES !

>>169739172
With your army

>>169739172
You ask daddy Leoncouer to help you out.

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>>169737639
I feel like I'm the only person that hates Attila. I generally don't like starting as a massive bloat empire, so ERE and WRE aren't for me. Everyone else in Europe are the same chainmail wearing barbarians smashing against other chainmail wearing barbarians. They can tech up and eventually get better chainmail wearing barbarians with capes. Anyone with more interesting aesthetics are stuck next to the Sassanids, and then it's a "Kill endless stacks of Cataphracts and Spearman" simulator for the entire game, because the Sassanids and their vassals quite literally replace stacks as fast as you kill them.

I understand it's a superior game, but the setting is just so dull for me. Little things also bug me, like how they replace faction colored unit flags will dull boxes like Napoleon, except they even got rid of Napoleon's nation icons in lieu of generic yellow or red with weapon icons. Also how it makes the limited building slots in Warscape even more grating because halfway through the campaign lol winter is coming your food balance is all wrong now.

I don't understand. I know it should be fun, but I've got 20 hours on Attila with FotE, but 200 hours of R2TW with DEI. I can't do it boys, and I've been playing Total War since Medieval 1.

>>169739276
You can't just ask the French to do all your work for you. There are serious issues with that.

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>go to war against Marienburg

>they have 2 armies full of rifle cav

Good game you have there.

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This is what they get for trying to kill Louen

>>169739557
Absolutely chivalrous.

Sorry to ask anon but does anyone have the faction roller image please?

>>169739276
Can't get an alliance.

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Is there any bug army in the Warhammer fantasy universe?

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>>169739557
FOR ZE LADY

>>169739828
Araby. Lot of roaches there.

How the fuck is this expansion thing gonna work out?

They call 'em standalone. Does that mean the current Grand Campaign will stay as is, and the races they introduce later wont be playing in the same field?

I really don't understand how this is gonna turn out.

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>>169739236
fucking righteous, my knigga

>>169739468
Have you tried fucking off to Spain/Africa? Almost everything you mentioned is solved by that. Also, you learn to manage food soon enough.

>>169739468
DESU I've only ever played one vanilla Attila campaign and since then I always use a climate mod and better buildings mod that better balances food, sanitation, etc.

Ok noob to the warhammer game. I picked Isabella since she is new and the dark knight guys looked cool. Question is what direction should i go to start? I dont want to do a dumb thing and attack somebody who starts with a shitload of units and whatnot.

And is there any building at the start thats better to go with outside the income/order farms and whatnot?

Sorry for the super new questions. Just did not see this game in the pastebin with info.

>>169739828
Goblins have spider mounts and a huge spider

>>169739770
I intend on using the faction roller to decide which faction the lady demands be removed entirely from the map.

Who /Durthu/ here?

>>169739956
>buy standalone expansion
>have original = they combine
>don't have original = you just get what you bought
How is this complicated? It's not that different from FotS.

>>169740056
Don't attack major factions ie the ones you can play as

>>169740056
First thing you want to do is take the entirety of western sylvania, and see if you can get eschen and the other minor town in eastern sylvania before manfred does so it'll be easier to confederate with him

I havent played since wood elves were added, how the fuck do I deal with them? They agent spam me if I head into their shitty forest where they sit in their shitty trees with full stacks and everytime I negotiate peace with them and leave they declare war again immediately

Do I just need to invest in overwhelming stacks to annihilate them?

>>169740326
They most likely won't move their stacks out of their forest for a long time anyway

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>>169740131
ELF PRIDE WOODS WIDE

>people playing as factions other as carcassone and destroying welfs

as long as you don't research the tech and kill enough beasties the welfs will now stay in their forest and leave you and yours alone

>>169739956
seeing as how the grand campaign is now called "old world campaign", there will probably be a "new world" campaign for those who have the expansion but not the original, with the new grand campaign spanning both continents

>>169740131
best ll in the game

>lots of ap dmg
>lots of armor
>can waltz into enemy blobs and stack aoe w/ flock of doom/sword of daith
>has multipurpose missile ability that can either hit specific enemy characters or act as a shotgun for blobs at close range

unfortunately the lore of beasts nerfs hit him pretty badly, he can no longer cast a ward save on himself w/ pann's impenetrable pelt, and flock of doom is less effective

>>169740326
If they agent spam, just kill their agents. You need to get those assassins trained for chaos anyway. If they come out, kill them, and if you get an opportunity to attack a weak tree do it fast. Be glad you didn't have to deal with Tree Hitler and his blitzkrieg for lebensraum.

>>169739828
Some goblins ride on the backs of huge-ass spiders. But frankly, no. There is not an army that's all bugs.

>>169740131

Orion player here nigga, fuk brets.

>implying it matters when one of our pantheon is leading them anyway

>>169740497
>leave you and yours alone
But Carcassone is mine, I just haven't gotten it yet, and they won't leave them alone. Attacking my allies and future confederates is unacceptable.

I hope someone fixes the faces of the damsels. I don't want my sorceresses to be anything less than 8/10.

Should I use the vampires as agents or in my army?

>>169740789
-20 chivalry

>>169740172
Fots was two different time periods of the same map.

The real question is, can I fuck up Chaos as the Lizardmen? Or will we be stuck with three separate maps and can only interact with the factions tied to each map?

I'm not so confident CA can combine three maps without end turn times like we have never seen before.

>>169740818
Both, mostly in your armies and get them out for assassinations, they can move when your lord has used all his movement

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Knights Errant are cool as fuck

REEE my general got assassinated and i had to disband all my Knights or i would go bankrupt, i cant even recruit new knights since lack the building.

>>169740497
>there will probably be a "new world" campaign for those who have the expansion but not the original, with the new grand campaign spanning both continents
did CA say anything on this? I'd guess that new games will be completely stand alone with no ties to the old game (ie. no combined campaign), as it would create massive amounts of issues

>>169740920
Didn't you play Empire? That's probably how the map will be. Map = Empire, games (the actual application) work like S2 and FotS. Literally nothing new here.

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what is the best way to beat archer spam/mounted archers of the lelfs as bretonnia?

>>169741151
More/better archers,cav, flying, or hounds and add a bit of magic

>>169741151
Your archers beat mounted archers, and your cav beats archers.

>>169741151

Yeoman archers?

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>>169740789

Best girl WHEN?

>>169740428
>They most likely won't move their stacks out of their forest for a long time anyway

Ok, I might just leave a small army near the border. I have walls in my towns so hoping they won't be able to fuck me from behind if I send my main forces elsewhere

>>169740602
>Be glad you didn't have to deal with Tree Hitler and his blitzkrieg for lebensraum.

That sounds terrifying

>>169741032
>Honhonhon, you marched onto the wrong field of battle, canaille!

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>>169741032

Good god WHY are their helmets so plain and boring?

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>>169741406

should I attack manlet day one as vlad?

>>169741406
Isabella is out already.

>>169741259
>>169741261
>>169741302
So I just spam archers? But then their archers rape my shit before I can even reach them, should I avoid trebuchets completely? They do well generally but don't seem to be useful vs elves

>>169741134
I played Empire once as one of the German factions. Though I stopped because the lack of faction/unit diversity killed the game for me. It's worse than Total War: I really hope you like medium swords 2

Do you really think we'll be able to access all three maps in a campaign? Empire wasn't as dense as or as complicated as Warhammer. I want to believe, but can't help and think skirmish will be the only way to have most of the factions interact.

>>169741576

>Gospodar bitch
>Best

>>169740789

People have. Just search 'Damsel' in the Workshop.

>>169741576
literally just Slavic Elsa

>>169741406
Morathi and Alarielle this year.

Now that the dust has settled is Bretonnia the best faction in terms of campaign?

>>169740602
>didn't have to deal with Tree Hitler and his blitzkrieg for lebensraum
I never got to play a full campaign after WElves release, how bad was welf AI aggressiveness? was it worse then Attila's endless hunnic rape doomstacks?

>>169741618
Dried up old hag. Also used goods.

Are the flying Bret units supposed to be really mediocre? They seem to be only good for taking out artillery, and they can't tank archers or gunners very well.

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>>169741675
>Do you really think we'll be able to access all three maps in a campaign?
CA already said that's the plan - and pic related seems like decent proof that they're still going with it.

>>169741561

>implying plain helmets aren't /fa/ as fuck

>>169741641
Only use archers vs archers if you don't have cav or infantry faster than them
Trebuchet is just ok

>>169741561
They're plain because they're new guys trying to distinguish themselves, once they get picked for promotion they get to put something on their helmet.

>win a battle in shogun 2
>that victory music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glW0C3VkGMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok86Hw5CZqE

>>169741675
>Do you really think we'll be able to access all three maps in a campaign
That has been the plan since the initial announcement

>>169741675
Empire was pretty much the same as Warhammer in terms of geography, remember it's !notEarth we're talking about. There's no reason they can't make theatres with transition like in Empire.

>>169741838
They will fight everybody and since their forest is an uber hippy fortress and they can conquer everything, most AI factions will get gobbled up. And since they are fighting everybody, guess who else they end up buddy with when they come rolling around?

>>169741913
D-does that mean ship combat maybe confirmed?

>>169741032
I like that they have the old school Hundred Years' War design of Bretonnia, compared to the KotR and above who have the modern crusader design

>>169741561
because they're knights errant you stupid fuck

>>169738428
Alberic "Mousillon? Mousi-gone" de Bordeleaux

If you could permanently delete one LL from the game, who would you choose?

>>169741913
>>169742062
>>169742076

Alright, I'll believe. Forgive me for being hesitant. CA has done a fabulous job so far, but I've been disappointed too many times before.

Hopefully New World doesn't take more than a year to announce and we can be 100% sure soon-ish.

>>169742081
it has to be if we are getting campaigns spanning the old/new world, otherwise the lack of naval combat will be a glaring weakness in the game. As of right now the only naval aspect of the game is norscans coming south or the player using the sea to avoid chaos attrition when removing norscans

>>169742203
Kholek and Duruthurutu ez

>>169742203
Kemmler. He serves literally no purpose. All the others have at least some merit when playing them and/or against them.

>>169742203
Kemmler. He isn't a particularly interesting character and i'd much rather see someone like Abhorash or Konrad make the cut.

>>169741913

>Trident of Manann

Wait, are Bret nobility even allowed to worship other deities apart from their Totally-Not-An-Elf -In-Disguise bitch of a Goddess? I thought that was forbidden.

>>169742219

I doubt it'll take more than a year for New World to be announced. They're going to ride the good PR from the positive release of Wood Krauts and the free content of Anglo Baguettes. If they wait too long, people will forget about these good things and just remember the Chaos Warrior debacle. I can't imagine them saying nothing more about Warhammer Total War in six months time.

>>169742354
>>169742368

I really wish Kemmler was THE summoning lord. He should have the ability to raise the most kinds of undead in spells, but fucking Ghorst gets the only unique undead summoning spell for a LL.

>>169742081
Unless they buy the rights to Man o War their will be no playable sea battles. But at the very least I'm sure they will add naval units like pre-Empire total war, and we will probably see units like Lothern Sea Guard having bonus stats when fighting at sea

I wish spells were cheaper.

They already feel so underpowered anyway.

Recommendations for opening moves as the VC after taking Templehof?

Also what do you guys do when you are in that hurdle of 1 full stack of solid units but with only enough cities/econ/income to support a half stack of shit spam units like zombies?

I think its that last part that gets me everytime.

>>169742373
It's not forbidden. May be frowned upon if you worship another god too much, but not in Bordeleaux

>>169742551
>Unless they buy the rights to Man o War

Yeah, they totally need to buy the rights of some literal what thing to implement sea battles

>>169742551
I don't see CA going back to old races to give each of them some ships

>>169742636

Spells are divided into three categories.

Stupidly overpowered: Healing/Certain Buffs/Debuffs
Balanced: Most Buffs/Debuffs
Underpowered: Literally every other spell

>>169742718
Do you really believe they'll be done with the Old World races once the first standalone comes out?

>>169742763
Depends on your unit size setting. On normal and small damage spells are crazy overpowered.

>>169738503
Pros
>Campaign is extremely dynamic and becomes all sorts of crazy
>You can literaly raze your starting provinces and fuck off anywhere you want
>Family Trees
>Good mixxed naval/land battles and sieges
>Huns are scary

Cons
>annoying upgrade system
>many units have just minor differences and look mostly bland
>tedious political system


I would say Attila is either a hit or miss TW for many reasons regarding the chosen historycal period but overall deserves alot of praise

>>169742859
Gelt damage spells still do fuck all...

>>169742981
Fire, big waaagh, lore of the wild and some other schools are great tho with these settings.

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>>169741871
Their Royal Peg knights are good vs large targets, not great against cav but perfect monster killers.

They can beat a giant with little losses, equal cost so a decent trade.

They beat trolls, Vargulf and Vargiest with zero losses too.

>>169742637
Unite all of sylvania, expand to one of the empire provinces, take care of the dwarves with diplomacy or razing everything zhufbar owns.

Expand or sack and invest in your economy

Can someone link the new war hammer roll chart? I need a new campaign after how easy beast men was

>>169742979
>You can literaly raze your starting provinces and fuck off anywhere you want
this is my favourite thing in attila, in most of the cases you get to pick the region you play in

also, that huns aren't such a pushover like chaos invasion is

on the other hand, i find city and province management to be rather tedious and i'm glad it got simplified in warhammer, since i don't have to spend too much time making cookie-cutter province building layouts

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>>169742045
>Bring back Jeff Van Dyck for Shogun 2
>Get rid of him with Rome 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPPQ80QfFt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8oU5iM2qS4

>>169743156
From my testing only thing that beats them is Araknarok and Blood knights. All beast men units get obliterated, even Dragon Ogre Shaggoth get slaughtered.

>>169742354

>mfw i actually use Kemmler because I just wanna be a spoopy necromancer hiding behind 7000 skellies

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>kick off the Dwarves from their strength rank 1 into strength rank 28

What are Von Carsteins' victory conditions? Same old take Altdorf and kill Archaon?

Can someone give me a rundown on warhammer lore?

I looked it up and all I got was that everyone dies in the end or some shit

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>>169741032

Why are knights errant better equipped than grail knights?

>>169743409
What about tree people and tank?

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the lady guide my lance

>>169743712
Everyone died, everything got rebooted into Age of Sigmar but we don't care about that so we go to the time where just before everyone died.

How do I Bordelaux? I don't know what to do at the start.
Also do you unlock anything by winning campaign as Brets?

>>169743745
Because literally Muh Faith and Muh Lady. How else do you think a faction of rock lobbing, bowshooting humans stand a chance in the Warhammer world.

>>169743653
Wipe out the Empire, take Drakenhof, and control 15 provinces for short victory.

>>169743841

>That balance of power bar

Literally how? Unless the entire enemy armies hidden are trolls, your Grail Knight and Pegasus knights alone should be able to route most of Felman's army through cycle charging.

>>169742859

Who the fek plays small

Even on the toastiest of toasters

>>169743841
>bringing all that peasant infantry

what the fuck are you doing

>>169744119
Well that's underwhelming. Thanks.

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Speaking of victory conditions, why is the Empire short victory such a piece of shit?

> Just own like half the map and kill Archaon
> Oh what do you mean it's the same?
> No no, you need to kill the Vampire Counts on top of taking back of all Sylvania, very different :)

I sort of skipped over that -20 order event on turn 2. How do I get rid of it?

>>169744379
It only lasts 20 turns

>>169740818
Both, but their use as agents somewhat dies down after early game. They give great growth when they deploy to your own province, use that. After you have Sylvania united, they're mostly be in your army other than spreading corruption purposes.

Banshees are way better at assassination.

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>>169743795
Can beat tree people with cycle charges, and even Durthu if they are lucky and dont get hit with amber spear.

Have not tried steam tank, is very close i had to constantly cycle charge not viable in game.

They absolutely destroy low armor units, but high armor are a bit of trouble. Things like Minotaur, crypt horrors, vargulf, trolls, centrigors basically die right of the charge.

What should my army composition be in RotS?

>>169744189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATdauIY2Agw

Complete with the cancer annotations

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Anyone else get a boner when you use male barbarian champions to make female roman spies defect to your faction?

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>>169744379
USE IT

Gain mad exp off the bat for your faction leader and the cash from killing armies to upgrade, or you could just go kill those orcs by marion I believe and end it.

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>when your legendary campaign looks like this
>nothing to worry about except a few hippies who wont leave their trees
>actually struggling to find fights to get enough lady points to win
>going to have to go on a crusade

>>169744120
my other 2 armies are 3 strong

>>169744282
I just confederated bretonnia and these are the ai armies I'm using to break the siege of marienburg. since my entire force is down south genociding wood elves.

>>169744917
That's usually when you scrap that campaign and go for higher difficulty/harder race

>>169744917
Why arent all the elves dead yet.

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I'm trying to make maps but when I export, I get this map mesh error. Can anyone explain how map mesh works?

>>169745156
>higher difficulty
>legendary
Dont you try to trick me

>>169745174
They wont god damn leave their god damn trees and every time I build up a large enough force to go deal with them either some goats comes the south or some orcs from the north and I have to go deal with them

>>169744515
Experiment with what what you like using, but
-back up early game gun units with melee
-wooden cannons are shit
-revolver cav are great
-late game gun units can deal with banzai charging nips without backup

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>tfw point blank clutch shot on kemmler with the hammer of the witches just as my whole army was about to rout

>>169745365
RotS, not FotS

>>169745508
>that many spears
Pontus please stop it, this isnt Rome.

>>169734426

>Tchar'zanek

meme list

Would appreciate some help with Bret economy. do you all rely on farms or the weaving houses for money?

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>>169734168
Ma nigga

Are there any good letsplays for different races for TWW?

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>>169745107
here we go, doesn't look good though. did manage to polish off one of the stacks just before this.

>>169745790
also how do you set up your buildings as brettonia? Do you have a single province with all the recruitment buildings or do you spread them out?

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>>169744917
>this just happened
Not comfy, not comfy at all

>>169743409
What about regular dragon ogres? they have anti large and multiple models

Any mods worth getting for Warhammer?

When do you think the expansion will come out? I'm sooo fucking hyped

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>Skarsnik's upkeep reduction doesn't affect Arachnarok spiders
>Why

>>169745596

Confederated army my dude and promptly replaced the leader with Karl

>>169741406

Don't say best girl, say Queen Khalida

>>169745535
My bad, the levy spear guys are crap but cheap fodder that always has a use in tying up the enemy. Go full longshanks with arrows but skip the low tier arrow guys. Warrior monks are nice combat units, cav are great but so expensive.

>>169745820
LEGEND
E
G
E
N
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And it just keeps getting worse

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Are vampire heroes that good in battles? I've never played a VC campaign and I don't know wether to use Vlad or Isabella.

>>169746329
I thought you were going to be clever and add "Bretonnia: Free" in there
Oh well

>>169746349
They're solid, combination of being both a fairly good caster and melee fighter

>>169746349
Yes they are, high armor and two healthpools with regeneration. Meh defense and attack tho

Started today a Legendary Bret campagin. They didn't lie about elve change. I am at turn 70 and I had war with them for 20 turns and they DIDNT EVEN LEFT FOREST with a single unit. I had literally no forces on the borders, Pre-patch elves would already took half bretonnia and Dwarfen holds.

Is the way to play still Very Hard Campaign + Normal Battles?

Or did they do something besides flat stat buffs to battle difficulty?

>>169746349
Lore of Death/Shadows is handy in a pinch. I assume Isabella's buffs let them function as proper frontline fighters though

>>169746608
Start VH campaign and then change battle difficulty after starting the game

>>169746329
>>169746540

Yeah I thought so too, disappointed.

>>169746608
They made AI do mistakes on purpose on easy and normal campaign difficulty settings, that's it

>>169746540

Wouldn't you need to add the other free stuff in too?

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AAAAAAAAGGGHGHH

fuck that, i don't have time for this nonsense

>>169746543
>>169746551
I'm learning the game but I'm still in deep sea when upgrading hero skills. What should I go for with Isabella and Vlad?
Is there some general rule I should follow? I only know it's better to give them a role and build them around that

Quick question.

Can Bretonnia occupy Wood Elf territory or just sack or raze?