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Lazy fucks won't make a new thread Edition.

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB
To update: META IN FLUX BOYS, DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO THIS DATED GUIDE. PLAY GELT NOW WHILE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>ACTUAL Total War News
Bretonnia and the patch is out.
To get Bretonnia ONE(1) day early(literally right now), sign up to https://dashboard.totalwar.com

Isabella isn't available until tomorrow it seems.

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

Warhammer is $12: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly
Not for much longer.

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

NEW
Update Info -- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/191504/bretonnia-update-patch-notes

>Recent
DLC (good goy) -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331

Suggested Mod Pack (You can pick and choose from the list, Suggested by anon):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

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>Gobbo Archers
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First for THE LADY WILLS IT
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Zombie Pirates when
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Sigmarines FUCKING WHEN
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>>169671686

You lost too many men, happens all the time.
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The peasant economy is really starting to hold me back
Should I have focused on getting that one tech that increases the max per farm? Confederating seemed more important at first
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Ten turns in and I've slaughtered the beastmen and made the elves my bitch. Has the Lady blessed me or are bad things going to happen soon?
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>>169671940
>The Fay manlet
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is there a mod that has your confederates keep their original flag rather than taking yours?

I like Bretonnia's heraldry
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>Want to play Brets.
>Months of Dwarf play has ruined my cavalry micro.
>Can't even use firing lines to compensate since Brets don't have AP missile units other than the trebuchet.
Wish me luck lads, I'm going to start running stacks with 15 units of cav in them until I can micro again.
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About to start my bretonnia campaign since I can't sleep due to being worried over a surgery i'm going through in the morning. What are some starting tips for Louen?
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>got code for early bretonnia 9 hours ago
>it is now 2 am
>have not played the game at all and have instead dedicated myself to shitposting
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>>169672010
What is the lore behind all the fucking skulls in the mountains?
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>>169672131
Magic does weird shit to the environment.
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Rock the boat!
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>>169672131
I didn't mean to reply to anyone with this
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>>169671809
Never, die AoS fag.
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>>169672104
>it's late
>you choose not to sleep
>being tired causes bad effects in your body and the surgery is botched and you die

F
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>>169672205
Man I tried for like 2 hours and I just can't sleep. I at least wanna dick around as the Brets before I go under the knife don't scare me.
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>>169672284
What are you having done, anon?
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Someone explain aspiring champions to me. Are they regular chaos warriors who are trying to become chosen and are in between or are they even above chosen and are the elite of the elite?
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Literally just bought WH:TW through humble-bundle. Am I still in time for CHIVALRY AND HONOUR FOR THE LADY?
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>>169672389
Champions are above chosen, like the hero units you get, and leaders of warbands. So they're guys aspiring to be champions.
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>>169672367
Pilonidal cyst removal. It's been causing an immense amount of pain for the last month.
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>making a Marienburg sandwich
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> Play Bretonnia
> Have no economy
> Can't recruit more peasants because lol peasant economy
> Can't recruit more Knights because your settlement has no infrastructure and you have to choose between money making buildings or stables
> Raze Orc settlement to the ground
> Marienburg runs around with 30 non-garrison units, literally can't recruit more than 17 units in my stack and have to peace out
> Research confederation technologies with my neighboring Bretonnians
> have +200 relations with both of them after the techs but they refuse to confederate
> Try and fight skeleton Bretonnians to get more Chivalry I don't know what the fuck I'm doing
> The Red Duke also has a 30 unit stack despite not even owning a whole province
> Crushes my army of starting knights and the max peasants I was allowed with the Damsel attached

Tbf I guess I'm shit at Total Warhammer, but this doesn't seem like a lot of fun.
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>>169671809
Thats like asking 'Gandalf when', entirely separate and unrelated fantasy universe. TWW is never going to have anything AoS based because it isnt AoS.
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>>169672530
Sounds routine
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>>169672494
Comes out tomorrow friend, enjoy fighting for ze lady
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>>169672530
That is super gross anon.
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Would Zacharias teaming up with Mannfred make more sense than Kemmler doing the same?
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>>169672681
Well that's why they're removing it anon.

>>169672670
Routine, but surgeries always make me anxious.

Now all I want are bretonnia tips.
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>>169671407
>tfw you will never be the Fay Enchantress's foot servant, gently worshipping them all day.

Is...Is it meant to hurt this much?
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Alberic of Bordeleaux here, taking QUESTions ;)
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>>169672673
It's already 28th, 8 AM here in yurop so I was worried. Thanks for the info.
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>169672756
Where's your trident?

Post feet
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>>169672756
Post timestamps
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>Brettonia
>Pulled into war vs human faction
>Cowards refuse to field their armies, just garrison their cities
>Attack and sack - lose chivalry, lord can get massive chivalry penalty
>Attak and raze - lose tons of chivalry
>Try to bait and ambush - lose chivalry
I'm probably missing something here but this concept seems like it would work better if the AI wasn't so cautious
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>>169672587
>I am a pleb please save me guide
>1. Remove all peanut mobs/spear mobs and replace with swords
>2. Place your dumbslut sorc in your army
>3. Turn 1, recruit until you are 17 stack, turn 2 attack orcs and win, turn 3 retreat and hide in base
>4. Rush empire/dwarf friendship tech for all the friendships and confederations
>5. Build a clay pot in main settlement day 1
>6. Get trade with everyone, check every turn
>7. Sit on your ass
>8. No, seriously, sit on your fucking ass
>9. Keep rushing as many friendships as you can, help them with wars, get more trade, help them with more wars, more trade, more wars, take every single diplomatic deal you can
>10. Confederate for territory
>11. Peace out with anyone you can; either i. they kill your 'allies' after you peace out so you can take it back as your own later or ii. its one less faggot to worry about as you confederate

Brets have an easy as fuck campaign, you can literally sit in your base and build an empire without leaving it.
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Oh i wonder what it is?
A temple of myrmidia that grants ranks to my paladins perhaps?
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>>169672949

B-But Anon I've seen everyone posting how sitting in your base just has your character get terrible traits that get you negative chivalry.
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>>169672920
Just occupy and then leave it to be retaken or fall on its own? Either way, no chivalry loss.
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oh wow it's nothing?
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>>169673037
SIT
ON
YOUR
ASS

Only leave once you get dragged into wars by your allies and help them in those fights. Your main job is just waiting for your tech to finish so you can confederate half the map.
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>>169673063
Can't make the Myrmidia temple?
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>>169672698
Yes
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>>169673060
>Just occupy and then leave it to be retaken or fall on its own?
The only options against this Marienburg settlement are sack or raze...
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Just got warhammer off the humble monthly

Is there any way to make the game not look like somebody's smeared shit all over everything? I can't really tell if that's just post processing or the textures are also dark as shit.
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>>169673037

There's a building that gets rid of shit traits I believe.
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>>169672920
>create faction with special mechanics
>forget to have a "leave defeated city alone" option to complement special mechanics

Bravo CA
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>>169673146

Alright, well I'm going to scrap my campaign and try that tomorrow. I also saw that people were leaving the orc settlement alone so they could farm the orc rebels that spawn for chivalry and levels. That sounds like a pretty good idea.

Thanks for the spoon feeding. I'll try and see how chivalry is all.
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>>169673191
It's a human settlement, you HAVE to be able to occupy it.
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>>169673194

Play at a resolution that is a lot higher than your native and downscale.

It makes the game look awesome.
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>>169673194
Post a screenshot so we can see what's happening if you want any fucking help from us
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>>169673150
nope
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>>169673427
I guess because the southern realms technically count as Empire?
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>>169673284
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>>169673351
Might do just that.
>>169673352
Nothing out of the ordinary, the game looks as it appears in any screenshot and whatever, I just think that looks awful, personally. Colour balance is far too desaturated, primarily.
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>>169673554
I took Gorssel just fine on my campaign
Maybe you're bugged or something
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>>169673194
game has a brown filter. Gemfx can help a lot by removing that and adjusting texture brightness. Unfortunately, it's hard to find settings that look good under all conditions.
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>>169672554

Oh, oh I ambushed them too

And I lost 2 chivalry because of that.

Fuck. Can't really do anything without losing chivalry
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>>169673554
>>169673651

Yeah it's probably a bug.
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>>169673554
Looks like a bug
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tfw missing heraldry
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>>169673651
>>169673686
>>169673705
well fuck me in my chivalrous arse
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>>169673554

Bugs?

In *MY* Creative Assembly game?
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>>169673739
Sodomy offends the Lady, her punishment is upon you.
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>>169673632

Yeah, downscaling real sharpens things up, AA is fucking useless.
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>using horses when you can use boxes
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>we improved AI recruiting logic
>moussilon has 11 skeletons, 22 skeletons with spears and 2 zambies
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>>169674152
>>169673351

Computer illiterate. Can you explain how i go about doing this? Does it take more system resources?
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>>169674278

>Does it take more system resources?

YOU REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PYLONS
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>>169673657
cheers m8
>>169674278
>Does it take more system resources?
Yes, a lot more. It's running the game at a higher resolution.
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>>169674278

Play on fullscreen, put the resolution higher than what your native resolution is.

It's VERY graphics card intensive but it can't hurt to see what you can get away with. Not so much CPU intensive but you can get bottlenecked by the CPU regardless because of how CPU intensive everything else is.
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>>169674169
Cavalry adds more tactical options.

Enjoy your boring game.
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So what's your ideal Undead stack look like?

I personally like rolling out with four of these guys
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Why is Chaos so fun?
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I know the standard way with Pack File Manager is to rename the table to something different, then add new rows or modified rows to that table. However, what if I want to completely remove a row from a table? The only way I can think of it working is to just have the table name be _data__core still, which isn't good for compatibility with other mods...
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>>169674747

Because you didn't pick Sigvald as your starter
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/twg/, redpill me on the Lore of Heavens
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>>169674821

Sigvald is a lot of fun IMO. If you want to win though Archaon is by far the best choice. The reduced upkeep on chaos warriors and the extra campaign movement is extremely powerful for the early game.
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REVENGE INCARNATE
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>Get attacked
>Enemy starts on a fuck-huge hill and I start in a marsh
>"Well I'm not assaulting that, they can come to me"
>They just sit on their hill
>Check the timer
>See I have to actively win the battle before the timer runs out or else I lose
>On defense

What fucking retard thought that making you lose by time-out on defense was a good idea. Shouldn't the point of defense is to either repulse the enemy or hold out long enough? Naturally it doesn't work that way for you on attack
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CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN
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Whats the difference between the bret factions lore wise?
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>>169675146

You can't, you fucked up.

You probably did an intercept you didn't have to do.
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KILL EVERYTHING WITHOUT A BEARD
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G O B L I N S
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>34gig update required
>Not enough disk space despite having plenty of room (game wants me to download the whole thing again)

Hello darkness my old friend
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>>169675843
Time to shave some Dwarfs I guess
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Does DX12 mode do positive things yet?
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AHHH I CAN'T GET THE BRET DLC TO WORK

I tried the reddit guide too but no dice.

Guess I'll have to wait it out like the peasant I am
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>Start Bretonnia campaign
>Some orc event okay whatever
>wait for orc doomstack to fuck off and then I wreck their house
>Next turn Marienburg comes at Louen with 2 stacks and decides to fuck my ass

Well I guess I outplayed myself.
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Jesus christ fuck wood elves. I am really bad at playing Brettonia, I'm way more used to infantry armies. As it is, I have my screen of infantry melt in seconds, my knights get bogged down in milliseconds at the flanks and get shot to death by arrows, and Durthu striding straight for my lord to plant roots in blue blood ass. Fucking elves are still aggressive shits killing Carcassone before I can confederate them, and I let my dumb ass answer their call to war.
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>>169675864

>G O B L I N S
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>>169675967
The actual download is only like 2gb
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So basically, as Bretonnia you just let the greenskin order penalty ride out for 20 turns, power level, build up chivalry, and afk until you can use your tech to take the rest of Bretonnia?

Also Loeun obvious lord choice? Other two seem mediocre at best.
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Question about Unlimited Video Memory in Warhammer. in previous games with it i could actually tell a difference (at the price of increased system load and waaay fewer fps) when it was on. for example chainmail looked like chainmail instead of a muddy shirt.

Does it have as dramatic affect in warhammer? I dont really see a difference with it on or off other than lower performance.
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>Summons that raise units out of the ground can no longer be cast on walls.

FUCK, that was my favorite
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ISABELLA WHEN
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What the fuck is a good army comp as bretonnia.
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>mfw Bretonnian GC is really fucking boring

Mousillon are a push over with there one (1) settlement and there's no one else to fight
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>>169676935

>play brettonia on legendary
>it's a marienburg brutally fist fucks you unless you kill them early type of game
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>>169677032
Have fun turn 50
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>>169677032
Go fight the wood elves.
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>>169671407

Holy shit I thought peasants would be bad, but they are terrible. Worse than fucking goblins.

Isn't even worse getting them as canon fodder.
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>>169675864
Goblins...
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Brettonnia for rest of us who didnt get it early when?
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>>169674742
> 4 terrorgheists

literally git gud
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>>169676952

It is one of the three big options that improve FPS.
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>>169677118
Now. Just downloaded it from Steam directly.
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Green Knight is really underwhelming.
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>>169677098
Yeah. Peasants are fucking horrible. I noticed this when about 3 seconds into a fight against Orc Boyz they just flat out fled.

>>169677190
What other options improve FPS a lot? my 760 chugs in battles.
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>>169677038
How would you go about killing off Marienburg early? You can only reasonably have one stack as Bretonnia because of the peasant restriction.
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She floats around the BATTLEFIELD!

Looks pretty sweet.

Just don't know how to built her yet. Maybe the most points in magic, rest in unit buffs. (and maybe the cost reduction?!)
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>>169677098
Peasant mobs cost much more upkeep than they cost to recruit. Just use them as a meatshield to absorb anything dangerous so you can maneuver your Knights safely
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>>169677258

turn Portishead to 2D, unlimited video memory on and the lower the shadow quality the better.

Those are the big 3, you can also do stuff like turning your AA down or off. If you want it on but still want performance just put it on FXAA
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So we all agree that the 4 vanilla factions and WoC need something interesting about them, right? They have 0 unique things going for them.
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>>169677098
muh immersion
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>>169677379
Damn, Damsels really look like old cat ladies.
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>>169677492
Empire and dorfs need it most. They are pretty barebones in their campaign mechanics even compared to other starting factions
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>>169677630
Dorfs at least have grudged.

Empire literally has nothing unique in the way of mechanics when they could place the politics shit into it.
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>>169677350
You have trebuchets. Make a hole, destoy 2 towers on one flank and shoot the defenders to shit with lots of archers.
Also you can still safely recruit more in the early game, the punishments aren't that harsh for say 15/10
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>>169677492
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>>169677032
>HURR I'M RETARDED

The whole of point of "we iz crusaders n sheeit" is to go fucking crusade somewhere chaos or vampires or greenskins or beastmen actually are you dumb fuck
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>>169677783
>Opinion I don't like is bait
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>>169677652
Grudges are literally nothing though. It's just a butthurt book that you have on top of your regular diplomacy
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>>169677830
Your opinion is just plain fucking retarded

How is a faction that can raise the dead not "unique" and have nothing going for it?
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>>169677379

damn the fae enchantress looks like THAT?

she still got it!
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Why the fuck is Bretonnia patch 34gb. I have to uninstal shit because of it
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>>169677894
Grudges literally define dwarfs and how they act in game and are the reason why the Dwarf AI will occasionally autistically declare war on you even with good relations
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>>169677947
It's just 2gb of actual files
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>>169673037
Build grail chaples and pray at them. its a building that removes negative traits, lets you recruit life, beast, and heavens mages (all good) and lets you recruit a leadership buffing unit and a tough sword and board infantry unit. Build one where ever your generals will be staying for long
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>>169677830
Thats not opinion. You were just pretending to be retarded
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>>169677980
Yes but that doesn't change the fact that it's a pretty boring mechanic
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>>169677898
he probably means that the dlc factions are more flashed out (see all the lore/description text in the traits, abilities etc.), then the older ones were its just the ability (corruption, raise the dead, grudges).

Bretonnia even has 3 "abilities" (knighthood, green knights and peasants - and impactful traits)
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>>169677652
>>169677894
>>169677980
Grudges REALLY need to be revamped.

I thought I would be getting more grudges to deal with than "somefuck raided you". Have random events cause Grudges to pop up that you need to solve. The book of grudges in lore has thousands of pages, I should NEVER run out of grudges to strike off.

It would add some challenge to the Dorf campaign too.
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>>169674742
vargheists initial charge bonus disrupts enemy lines more; terrorgheists are only good for killing enemy artillery
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Is it canon for brets to have access to lore of beasts? Somehow summoning a manticore seems like something they would see as abnormal.
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Is that guy working on a gunpowder bret mod still here?
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>>169678839
Brets having access to the lore of Beasts is canon, spawning Manticores is not tho

Transformation of Kadon is a spell which turns a character into a dragon until dispelled
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>>169678839
Yes, lore of beasts was generally self buffing spells in the tabletop.

Actually lore of beasts was pretty much used purely by Brets/Beastmen.
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>>169678993
>>Transformation of Kadon is a spell which turns a character into a dragon until dispelled
In the TT or in this new dlc?
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Holy shit I'm at turn 20 and Welfes still haven't confederated the whole forest.

What is this wizardry? Yay for PATCHES
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>>169679464
TT
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why is alberic so much worse than the others, his bonuses are crap, +5% trade income, really?

louen boosts movement range and aura, and fay enchantress has 15% replenishment, they are both vastly superior, have better starting units too
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>>169679820
Alberic has the best hat
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>>169679820
I get the feeling he'll be more sea-orientated once the new world expansion comes
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>>169677425
>unlimited memory on
Doesn't that shit actually fuck your performance even more? It's for gpu with lots of vram right?
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>>169679820
Alberic is a badass in the lore, but that's pretty much it.
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Bret hats are quite nice desu

Also the game runs a lot better these days than at launch, don't you think?
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>>169679865
And the best color scheme
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This patch sucks,there's building missing in some settlements
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>>169679820
He seems to have more unique items to get.
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>>169679980
>he uses outdated mods
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>>169680353
could be,none of them are labelled as such
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Do the mods fuck with the achevos?
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What motivates you to keep playing a campaign? There's a point I feel in every campaign I do where I get to such a huge size and wealth that I can maintain every army using top tier troops and I'm just taking cities, bringing back public order then moving on. I've never finished a campaign because of this.
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I still have no clue how to play this fucking game.

How do you raise public order? I just want to play RTS and let my giant bat monsters break everything.
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>>169680561
no you can use a cheat mod to unlock the harder achievements
I hope you kill yourself afterwards though
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>>169680593
>What motivates you to keep playing a campaign?
Nothing, once I'm so powerful that no other faction can stop me I start another campaign
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>>169680593
That's why I always go for quick victory conditions. There is no point at all to drag it out
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>fucking patch finally finishes downloading
>continue my Gelt campaign
>attack some enemies
>battle easy enough to not warrant buffs/debuffs, so can just enjoy
>Gelt wreaks glorious havoc with his buffed spells
>barely take any casualties due to +10 armor

>next battle, random lord I got from confederation, with like 10 units of flagellants
>attack warriors of chaos
>end up tanking a whole bunch of warriors and chaos spawn with my flagellants
>they die in droves, but much slower, thanks to faction-wide +10 armor
>when battle ends some units are brought to single digits, but not a single unit lost

SUPREME PATRIARCH!
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>>169680685
>I just want to play RTS and let my giant bat monsters break everything.
then play multiplayer or costum battles
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>>169679820
He's the biggest money-maker of the three though, it doesn't seem like a lot but when you fully kit out Bordeleaux, you churn out near as much as Marienburg, possibly more if you take the right skills.
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>raze moussilon as it is den of vampires
>-100 chivalrey
Does it want me to deal with orc incursions and vampire rebellions at same time?
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>>169677016
I've been having good success with:
>Louen on pegasus (currently, he'll get his hippo when it's available)
>Damsel of heavens that you start with
>Paladin
>2 men-at-arms (sword 'n' board)
>2 men-at-arms (spear 'n' board)
>1 grail knights
>3 knights of the realm
>2 questing knights
>1 pegasus knights
>2 trebuchets
Paladin and peasants hold ("hold") the centre; 2 lance knights (grail or of-the-realm) and 1 questing knight go round each flank, with the lance knights' anti-large trait meaning they'll fuck up any cavalry coming the other way; louen and pegasus knights fly around and fuck stuff up; damsel does magic; trebuchets gonna trebuchet.

Disclaimer that, as you may have guessed from Loeun being on a pegasus, this isn't that far into the campaign, although I didn't grind greenskins for levels as much as I could. Pic related is the army immediately after the Sword Of Couronne quest battle.
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>>169680717
I wasn't planning on using them to unlock them ;_;
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>>169680593
>King and the Warlord comes out
>Play Angrund on legendary
>Retake k8p and lose upkeep penalty
>Realise I'm playing a dwarf campaign
>Quit campaign and go play multiplayer
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Just tried out Enchantress, is the dyeworks economy building chain for Carcassone bugged? It doesn't appear to be a possible option.
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is this game good
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>>169681556
yes
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>>169681556
remove trip
REMOVE TRIP
YOU THE WORST FAG
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>>169681556
yes
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>>169681556
no, fantasy is for redditors
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>>169681619
oh hey I got that reference

>>169681531
it has a requirement to build it
check the tooltip
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>>169681556
Yes but only if you remove your tripcode
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Imma Empoire
shoulda I put wizzard in every armie?
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>>169681556
Total War is good
Warhammer is good
Combined it's goody good

>>169681792
If that is what you want then yes
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Who is the most kawaii character in TWW?

My votes goes to grombrindal
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>>169681861

Grimgor-chan
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>>169681861
Vlad von Carstein, definitely.
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>>169672739
yes! someone who gets it!
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>>169681897
>>169681861
though generic Strigoi Ghoul Kings (Sugoi Ghoul Kings) are a strong contender
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>>169681861
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>>169681861

Currently in game, Skarsnik
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>>169681861
Skarsnik is cute. CUTE!
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>>169682034
>>169682057
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>>169682083
It will never stop hurting ;_;
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>>169682034
Skarsnik is cute definitely.
But this anime bullshit has to stop, do not Cutebold-ize the gobbos.

Gobbos are absolutely for sexual, Cuteboldified gobbos are for purging on the moe-blob pyre.
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>>169681861
>>169681892
>>169681897
>>169681959
>>169681993
>>169682034
>>169682057
It's Deathclaw you peasants
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why do Orcs use arrers? isn't being an Orc all about bashing people's faces in in melee??

doubly strange for Savage Orcs
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FUCKING WHEN

>>169681993
>>169682034
>>169682083
>>169682137
>tfw people finally love Warhammer Fantasy characters
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>>169682083

>tfw used to think the red thing around Skarsnik's neck was a cute and stylish red scarf
>mfw seeing and realizing it wasn't
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>>169682190
shotting people is just as satisfying
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>>169682210
No, though I genuinely wouldn't be opposed to an age of sigmar game.
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>>169682231
but it's so unorcy... unorquy? fuck it, unorky.

the fuck do I derive fantasy version of "orky" from "orc"?
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>>169682321

>In fact, it is common for other Orcs to continuously mock their odd brethrens for using a weapon that is considered fit for only their shorter and more cowardly cousins. Though mocked relentlessly, these Orcs are keen to keep clear from a camp of Arrer Boyz, for they have a savage tendency to shoot at any passer-by that just so happens to walk by their camp as a means of "target practice".
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>>169682321
Orquish?
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>>169682210
>FUCKING WHEN
luckily never
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>>169682321
orky is proppa
and rememba Mork and Gork not Gork and Mork OK!?

>>169682190
ya gotta follo da dreem of da best shoota orcs dat can make der arrers go so fast dey make dat beyootiful dakka sound
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>>169682190
>>169682321
Yeah, they are considered a bit weird by other orcs.
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>>169682405
but that "qu" looks unorky too... such a bretonnian syllable, eugh.

maybe unorcky?
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>>169682448
Dun lissen to dis zoggin git, all orcs kno its Gork and Mork
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>>169682448
>Mork and Gork not Gork and Mork
Looks like ya need a propa stompin'
It'z GORK AND MORK ya git!
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>>169682321
Ya don't ya stuntie-lovin git. We has propa words.
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>>169682190
>>169682321
>>169682460
How about I attach the image, yeah that would help.
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Bad Moon and Spider God, not Gork and Mork
stabby-stabby ok
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Fellow orcs, surely we can agree that what Fork and Glock wanted was to live a simpler, farming life?
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>>169682582
t. zeench
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Eye of the beholder I guess
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>>169682674
at least she looks better than the girl on the right
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>>169677564
They're okay still, damsel-chan just doesn't put the effort into looking good when she's on a dirty battlefield. Fay is much better though.
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>>169682674
which one is the woman?
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>>169682582
old fluff had half-orcs living in the Empire
I can imagine them worshipping modified version of Gork and Mork to help them adapt to civilization
they'd wield pitchforks and pistols in combat to honour their gods

I approve of this.
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>>169682228
what thing around his neck
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>>169682729
The beautiful one. Duh.
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>>169682749
>half-orcs
how is that even possible?
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>>169682190
Orc arrers are constantly bullied

Barely above Goblin in terms of respected
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>tfw 5 more hours until I can play as my waifu
life is suffering
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>>169682795
they weren't mushroom people until rather late fluff
before that they were regular humanoids with dicks and pussies and so they could rape humans and produce half-orcs

those were less savage, could be more or less civilized, but were discriminated against hard, so still were mostly bandits and stuff.
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>>169682795
Orcs had women in Fantasy until it was retconned to be closer to 40k

They still exist in the Bloodbowl alternate universe and can be seen as cheerleaders
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>>169682945
those could be boob-squigs
like hair-squigs, but look like boobs instead of hair
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Some threads back there was a hilarious post of Dwarfs having vassalled Greenskins and then holding a strategy meeting with Karl Franz and Onion
anyone got a screencap?
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>>169683032
Slaneeshi Orcs possibly?
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>>169682535
>tfw infighting is just a shitty mechanic
>low fightyness doesn't let you fight out a battle with 50% of your army against the other 50%
it could have been real fun but CA is a boring company
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>>169679528
Turn 76 and mine haven't done shit all game either. They are just sitting with full stacks in their own seperate little provinces and waiting for me to come to them.
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>I'm Empire
>Bretonnia's my best friends, most dukedoms in defensive or military alliance, etc
>on Lyonesse dislikes me for some reason, despite being stupid rich
>asking Lyonesse for trade agreement since like turn 6
>always a no, even though button is yellow and I'm offering gold
>turn 60
>Archie Badwin comes
>SHIELD OF CIVILIZATION
>hmm, maybe now Lyonesse will trade with me
>clicky diplomacy
>Trade Agreement - yellow
>Vassalage - yellow
>Let's trade? - No!
>Be my vassal? - Ok!
>Okay, let's trade now? - NO!
>...
I mean, seriously, fucking frog-eaters.
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>>169683101
>Chaose corrupted orks
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>>169683101
Orcs are so dumb they don't even understand concept of sex
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I decided to focus on buffing dwarf warriors with ironhammer so i recruit gold 2 warriors and wuarralers at turn 60 which is cool. Except i didnt get the 20+ diplomatic relations for all factions

Very important: get +20 to all factions perk or literally everything will try to kill you
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trying to confederate with Artois. We are in a defensive alliance, they love me but they still always reject me when I ask them to confederate.

What do?
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>>169683416
The rarely seen corks
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FUCKING WHEN
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>>169683416
it happens
there's a lot of Orcs
Khornate Orcs are most common
I'd guess Tzeenchi Orcs are least common

>>169683528
yeah but with a large enough batch of Orcs you're eventually gonna get some weird ones
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So is lore of metal fixed now or is it still underwhelming?
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>>169683668
fixed

Gelt is now as cool as he sounds
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>>169683668

It's pretty decent, but Balthazar is REALLY good as starting lord now, the new starting bonus is god-tier.
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>>169683624
I know it happens, that doesn't make it terrible.
Chaos orks is very unorky indeed.
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>>169683586
pls help
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>>169683624
Doesn't the concept of Gork & Mork pretty much prevent any kind of chaos corruption?
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>>169681556
no, very bad game, please keep moving tripposter
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>>169683852
That's not how fantasy works.

Also chaos isn't nearly as big of a deal in fantasy until very late on when they were trying really hard to get the 40k kids interested. Hell lords of change get blown the fuck out so hard by the real top tier spellcasters it's not even funny.
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>>169683624
The place of chaos corrupted orcs in canon is questionable at best.

I'm pretty sure it was stated in an orc codex or white dwarf that gork and mork won't tolerate those pansy chaos gods corrupting orcs and that they would stomp them if they tried.
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>>169683852
yep.,

In fact the unorky behavior is punished in orc society
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>reddit skaven shouldn't be nuked for creating this fucker
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>>169683971
They do have lore-sheilds against it but considering how wide and aliv ewarhammer lore is I wouldn't be surprised if there are canon chaos orcs. Especially Fantasy used to be a fuking mess in terms of lore, anyway (more than it is now).
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40k humans go mad and/or sprout tentacles from just seeing a daemon
FB humans just stab daemon with sharp sticks
GRYPHONS FUCKING EAT NURGLE DAEMONS!
AND LOVE IT!
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>>169684029
Well the real problem is that pretty much everything GW makes has contradicting canon.

GW can't be bothered to implement quality control on things they produce and have gone with the cop out of "its all myths and legends".
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>>169683998
they barely tolerate Azhag for being so weird. orcs find strange as fuck that Azhag make strategies and tactics for battles instead of just go full frontal WAAAGH
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>>169684090
Maybe chaos is strong in 40K?
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Can anyone confirm if Alberic's port bonus is worth taking? The one thats 50/100/150% more money from ports

On a legendary campaign and dont want to grab it if its useless
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>>169684121
It's literally intentional, the whole point is so you can come up with your own stories for your armies and stuff. And so the lore doesn't have fixed "winners" and stuff like that.

The war of the beard has 2 completely contradictory records in the dwarf and high elf book because it's written from their perspectives in universe.
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> Green Knight is basically a over glorified banshee on a horse

What did they mean by this ?
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>>169683715
>>169683760
> new starting bonus

Wait, oh wow they did and that is pretty damn good.

Seems like a Gelt campaign is well over due.
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>>169684121
>"its all myths and legends"
It can be done okay - see TES, where most of cosmology is just in-universe theory and it's awesome

but GW never were good with writing

>>169684151
maybe humans (and other species) have bigger balls in Fantasy?
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>>169684020
what's wrong with the horrible terrifying disgusting amalgam of vile machinery and twisted mutated flesh, all twitching and spasming and ravenous, created by crazy sadistic science and powered by soulwrenching bits of crystallized evil and madness?
>>
What if the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe actually happens in 40k on one of the fucked up Demon Worlds in the Eye of Terror?
Seems entirely plausible considering just how fucked up those places can be
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They removed the bug that prevented you to increase the unit size... what a fucking delith,


NOW THIS IS MASSIVE BATTLES
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>>169684392
Oh fuck, seems like I will have to upgrade my CPU soon
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>>169684392
like ants in my garden
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>>169684392
god damn
you rich fuck
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>>169684392


What's worng anon, you can handle TRUE MASSIVE battles?

>>169684435
this feels epic as fuck anon
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>>169684240
A lot of it is just down to 40k power creep. In the modern lore you're not strong unless you can strangle two Carnifexes with your balls while power fucking a Avatar of Kaine.

And even then any Space Marine equivalent of you will be able of doing the same but somehow be100x better at it because Marines sell.
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>>169684196
>It's literally intentional

The open ended nature of the setting is intentional and some of the contradictions are intentional because they are being presented from different perspectives (This is usually true of fluff in the army books), but on more periphery fluff, like White Dwarf, Black Library books, games and other media that isn't part of the core, there is practically no checking done to ensure lore consistency.

Notable examples of failings in internal consistency are such things as the Khornate Grey Knights, everything C.S. Goto writes and the khornate sorcerer in that one dawn of war game.

The general rule is that there is a hierarchy of canon and that if its in a codex its probably canon. I like the open endedness of the setting and think its a great idea if you want to leave room for player creativity, but GW is also using this as an excuse for not giving a shit about writing consistent fluff.
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>>169684349
That has been alluded to before but it was retconned, I believe.
I think Kaldor Draigo has also shown up at one point, as has some chaos stuff from 40k like chainswords and bolters.
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>>169684349
But 40k is in a snowglobe in the college of magic.
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I want to know when the new TW Addon/Title is announced. It can't be that long since we have the old world edition now and the new menu looks like it's ready to add the new campaign.
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>>169684349
Not canon for decades now.
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>>169684478
>>169684392
>>169684392


Just like in my Warhammer illustrations!
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>>169684604
>>169684604
>>169684604

forgot the pic
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>>169682083
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>>169684745

I want custom campaign maps so fucking bad, right NOW!
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How big is the Bretonnia DLC? I have 22gb free space and it's telling me there's not enough HDD space to install the DLC.
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>>169684392
>>169684604
>>169684745
just like my tabletop minis collection!
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>>169684942
Unless you're collecting in 6mm I don't believe you anon.
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>>169684564
It's rumored to be later this year, as they have a team already working on it apparently. Maybe the game will launch in the end-of-the-year period for AAA titles.
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>>169684392
Ok anon, I beg you to tell me how you did this.

That looks fucking cool.
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>>169684918
2gb. but you need to have 34gb free space for some reason.
The size reverts back after the installation
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>>169684918
It's not that big at all, but because steam can be retarded about things, you need enough extra space for the entire game
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>>169685092
>>169685075
Well that's annoying. I'll move one of my games to another drive temporarily to download the god damn DLC.
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>Naval battles were boring and difficult. (Unless you have arty ships in Rome 2)
Yeah, the city sieges are boring now. (But they spent that time on other things instead of those sieges)
Troop variety does stink, but it is not that horrid. Especially in later game.
Village Sieges, I thought people were tired about taking the same fishing village over and over again. (They put that time into other things cause they probably thought people were tired of them after complaing about them so much)
Thank God there is no more faction managing. Except Growth, Obedience, Being able to tax each province seperatly, Chaos and Vampiric corruption. Seriously, all that in Rome 2 was sooooooo boring. Some people do just want to go smash things but that is your opinion.
This is the average warhammer total war fan. Not even worth 12 bucks.
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>Gelt is viable
>Fairy Reich nerfed
>two waifu LLs

Good times a-coming, boys
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>Based Cataph already fixing Bretonnia
>>
>Only two female LL so far
This is why we need to keep fighting this inequality bullshit
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>>169680685
Don't worry about low public order, unless your army is far away from the province.

Otherwise as vamps hire a wight king and send him over to the province and deploy him. That's usually enough to get it positive.
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>>169683617
second expansion, late 2018 ;_;
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>>169685628
Don't worry anon, Morathi in game 2 will increase the quota of female LLs, while also dressing like a stripper.
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>>169685614
>fixing Bretonnia

What does this mean? Like a radious tier change

>Removed peasant economy and made squires tier 2 units.
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>>169684090
The horn blower on the left is keeping Chaos corruption at bay with a rendition of "Song Bird."

Also, why does that deamon on the bottom look terrified?
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>>169685628
Don't be silly, Anon.
Women have equal opportunity to become legendary lords, but most of them choose to do other things like baking, looking after their men and dying of pox. You can't force them to lead armies if they don't want to.
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>>169685709
More like second expansion late 2017 and last expansion late/early 2018
Age of sigmar expansion 2019
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>>169685884
because Men of the Empire are just that badass. they strike fear in the heart of Daemons.
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>4 fucking hours until Isabella
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>Slaanesh is a male
WTF
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>>169685884
See that guy with the horn ? Demons hate his tune ..
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>>169685906
>second expansion
>late 2017
but where would the first expansion fit??
>>
I AM KING HERE!
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>>169686132
Yes sorry im retarded i mean first expansion late 2017 and last one late 2018 or early 2019
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>>169672739

I-I want to worship her all over.
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>>169686192
I AM SUPREME!
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>>169685432
I'm not apologizing for things cut prior TW games had.

But I am giving TWWH credit where credit is due. It does outshine it's predecessors in many places.

I do want to see all of the TW features we had in the past make a return at some point in TWWH.
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>>169686031
Slannesh is whatever you want her/him to be.
The Eldar call Slannesh "She Who Thirsts"
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>>169685884
demons have emotions too, in fantasy fear is an emotion people that aren't imperial guard are allowed to feel.
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>>169686389
I want "her" to be "girl" with a penis
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>>169686552
Thats a bit gay m8.
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>>169686343
>I do want to see all of the TW features we had in the past make a return at some point in TWWH.
that would be really damn cool
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>>169686389
Can Slannesh be an attack helicopter?
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>First get raped by woodcucks
>Now getting POO POO PEE PEE all over my fucking wheat fields.
Ze lady has forsaken me.
>>
>Tier 5 capital city is protected by nothing but peasants
>not a single knight or siege weapon
Bordeleaux just feels like a mod, there's nothing about this faction that was done well.
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>>169686685
Fellow dawi pls.
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>>169686720
You can't go both on a quest and protect the peasantry anon and it's just fucking peasants.
>>
Just reached turn 90 on the gobbo campaign and holy shit what the fuck is going on.

I own pretty much half the map and I'm not even close to victory since I pretty much need to wipe everyone off the map + send Archaon packing.

This is breaking my immersion, gobbos shouldn't be this powerful
>>
>its a "butthurt mountain midgets help chaos destroy the world by razing half of reikland while franz is off dealing with the apocalypse" campaign

there is only so much my knights can do to help
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>>169686720
Seems odd, especially given knights are Alberic's thing. I could see Carcassone having peasant-only garrisons, but can't work out why it'd be a thing for Bordeleaux.
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>>169686904
Skarsnik! Warlord of eight peaks!
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>>169686904
GOBBOS ARE THE MOST POWERFUL RACE IN THE WORLD
>>
What did the casual crowd mean by this?
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/27/total-war-warhammers-campaign-map-is-an-unreadable-irritant/
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>>169687009
But doesn't Alberic have the smallest retinue? That probably means they're all with him, and there's nobody left to garrison the castle.
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>>169687003
>Still playing For honor
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>>169687072
I mean, there are better map screens out there, but this

>Losing track of your armies is about the most basic thing which could go wrong in a game about setting up battles, and yet in TW: Warhammer it happens irritatingly often.

is just wrong. That has never happened.
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>>169687072
It's intentionally lying click-bait or the author is clinically retarded, I don't know which.
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>Fae Enchantress has bare feet
>Queen Jennah in GW2 has bare feet and it's even pointed out

it's as if video games are trying to nurture a foot fetish in me
it's working
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>listening to Arch cry about Bretonnian infantry being weak without even mentioning the new chariot and the Foot Squire supersoldiers, and suggesting that the peasant economy could be expanded into a 'full system' by raising the unit recruitment limit down the line

Is this an act? How can someone be this oblivious and just plain bad at the game? And, most importantly, how come he can have 100k subscribers?
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>>169686708
I hope you're playing the Fey Enchantress.
Getting raped by elvish half-animals Orion and then human half-animals is exactly what she's into!
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>>169687072
the GC map is tiny as it is.

the whole map should be on a detail level of the Beastmen or Wood Elf campaign imo.

double the settlements.
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>>169687336
King Louie
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>>169687319
>still playing No Content Wars 2
for what purpose
if you play it as a waifu simulator, BDO is vastly superior
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>>169679957
>when the lady doesn't notice you
>when the crusade goes wrong
>when an elf is near you
>when a peasant is near you
>when a peasant complains about the farm needing tilling
>when a peasant asks for rights
>when you get excited about a lady joining the crusade and then actually see her
>when the enemy army has spearmen
>when your liege lord does something unchivalrous
>when less peasants die than knights
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>>169687328
Is that the same Arch that whinged about beastmen building siege equipment, even though GW's army books included lore about beastmen building siege equipment? I kind of assumed he was a fuckwit.
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>>169687407
I just enjoy it from time to time and there's been a pretty nice LS chapter recently

also no, not waifu simulator for me.
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>>169687072
gaming """"""journalists"""""" are physically and mentally handicapped, obviously he can't read the campaign map because you need an IQ above 50
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Will Dark elves have their skimpy battlebikinis or will they censor them?

>tfw started collecting dark Elves two month before Age of shitmar leakes started coming
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Lads I really fancy starting a new greenskin campaign just to smash some frenchmen but I got so used to steel faith.

Any idea when the mod will become compatible with the brets?
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>>169687531

Dark Elves a best

I started collecting them 15 years ago
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>>169687328
>listening to Arch
stop
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Did CA get license for naval warfare or did the jews exclude it from the deal?
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>>169687571

>using mods
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>>169687531
There's only a few units that really do battlebikini anyway.
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>>169687571
>DAVE
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>>169687531
We can only hope anon.

I'm afraid I agree totally with the best elf poster.
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>>169687328
>listening to Arch
found the issue here

>>169687486
I can accept someone whining about stuff they thing doesn't make sense, what I can't accept is someone labourosly creating a case that doesn't hold up to scrutiny and passing your lackluster headcanon as ghospel truth

fuck that guy.
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>>169687396
well, maybe he's into that too
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>>169687618
>not using mods
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>>169687641
Truly my best Warboss. 2nd lord I recruited and never stopped smashing face.

It felt like playing warhams on the tabletop again making up a story for my little guys.
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>>169687571
He said something about 7-10 days for the next update in the comments.
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>>169687606
thwy can't usw the Man o War ships duw to license, they can't makw original ship designs since it would create drama of which ships are canon.

What they could do is med2 tier generalized unit cards for ships and keep it to auto resolve.

I wouldn't mind that.
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>>169687618
I consider faith and steel a mandatory mod. I've just gotten so used to it and it's features. Some very nice lore appropriate things in there.

>>169687805
Thanks anon.
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>>169687834
>I consider faith and steel a mandatory mod. I've just gotten so used to it and it's features

I can play without it just fine, but I have also gotten really used to the mod. It's pretty neat.
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>>169687606
There are naval files in the game. So either it was scrapped or they'll add it with the sequel since it's a big part of Dark Elfs.
>>169687828
That's wrong. The Man o War devs have said there's no reason TW can't use the ships.
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>>169687760
This is a good point actually, what mods do you guys like to use?

I've played a bunch of this game unmodded and want to know what cool mods there are out there.
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>>169687916
>>169687834
What does this mod do?
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>>169687328
There's a chariot for Bretonia? Footies are great but taking 2 turns to recruit and after I upgraded to almost all knights compositions kinda sour me on the deal
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BOY I SURE ENJOY THOSE
Foot Squires (Mounted)
Questing Knights (Lance & Shield)
Royal Pegasus Knights (Dismounted) (Great Weapons)
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>>169688016
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704361604&searchtext=steel+faith
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>>169688016
It's a overhaul mod. One of the main things is that it tries to make every unit useful. It also doesn't add a lot of units which is nice IMO
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holy fuck the red duke is so annoying

7,000 units, i can barely keep 2k without my economy going under
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>>169687834
>Some very nice lore appropriate things in there.
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Is there worse faith than being born as a female Skaven?
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>>169687918
I stand corrected
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>Reliquary Corruption is bugged to still effect your units even after destroying the mortis engine

How the fuck does CA miss something like this? I just watched a unit of grail knights drop dead after I had won the battle
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>>169688113
Sounds pretty neat desu.

>>169688090
Well yes that is terrible and I never see the appeal- Mods like these lead to tragedies like "Black Orc Arrerz"
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>>169688101
>He's trying to add mangler squigs
Aw yis.
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>>169688016
Lots of little quality of life improvements.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704361604
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Any absolutely must have mods, twg?
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>>169688162
giants are canonically being painted by orcs
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For a peasant of Bretonnia provides your crops!
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>>169688238
building progression icons
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>>169688162
What exactly do you consider lacking in appropriateness anon or did you just have a picture you wanted to post and needed an excuse?
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>>169688175
>get all the sex and food you'll ever want and constantly make babies
>you are istinctively incapable of wanting anything but sex, food and giving birth to cute little ratties
>all your desires are fulfilled
>happiness
what not to want?
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>>169688238
Not really, maybe the mod that remove the "great power" diplomacy debuff.

>>169688294
Wheat must be harvested for the lord knight and the country.
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>>169688175
Falling into the hands of the ruinous powers to be tormented for an eternity?

Being a literal elf?
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>>169688003
No Great Power Penalty, because I am a scrub.
Other scrub mods I use are Only Elite Units Cost Amber and Home Region Movement Bonus.
Will sometimes turn on No Aggressive Agents, especially if the goblins are being shits. It's nice that you can toggle it on and off without fucking up savegames.

Building Progression Icons is pretty neat - see pic related.
Sometimes other aesthetic mods, like Full Plate Greatswords or our own anon's Mousillon mod.

Other than that occasionally turn on faction unlockers or Regional Occupation mods if I want variety.
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>>169688162
isn't that just that elephant rider dude from LotR?
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>>169688209
the battle I just fought I lost ~800 men w/ the vamps kill total only adding up to around 530

that means the mortis engine damage aura was responsible for ~270 kills
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>trying to kill Duke in a legendary campaign
>Even though he completely outnumbers me I win and should be able to go at least go siege his city now
>1/2
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>169688294
>Dismounted Peasant Farmers (Lore of Tilling)
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>>169688472
Are you sure that doesn't already exist anon?

There are already hedge wizards in WH.
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>>169688332
Well, if you like it then I guess its okay.
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>>169688408
hm, will my game still work in MP if I install this mod? or both players need same mods?
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>>169688294
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>>169688456
>This is his army immediately after the fight
Just fuck vampires, seriously, they have been broken for so fucking long now and CA has done absolutely fucking nothing to fix them

Being able to recruit entirely new armies instantly after a fight isn't fair in the fucking slightest. There is literally nothing you can do to stop this.
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>>169688472
>Nuture the land: AOE spell
>+50 speed to infantry within range
>provides regeneration for all unit within range
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>>169688548
both players need the same mod
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>>169688573
You have to kill the vampire anon, bring some fire archers to ensure no regeneration.
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>>169674169
>brettonian peasants can hold the line against elite infantry. Theyll break in 20 seconds and youll lose
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>>169688573
>mortals complain how it sucks to be mere mortal
how fresh
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>>169688294
>Bretonnian Peasant Ox Cart (Chariot)
>>
>everyone and their horses enjoying not-britons
>my dlc is fucked and the fix doesn't seem to work
>have to wait for official release like a peasant

I M M E R S I O N
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>>169688573
Git gud. You always wipe out the vamp army completely in one turn, or you don't fight it at all because they just get stronger from the casualties.
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>>169688459
>turn 1 of New World Campaign
>open diplomacy menu
>select Morathi's faction (Ghrond, probably)
>offer: become vassel
>>
TWO
FUCKING
HOURS
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>>169688664
I murdered BOTH attacking lords, those are two entirely new lords leading those armies with whole new armies in the same god damn turn they were in after attacking me

Seriously, this is the most broken shit in the campaign, iv lost my whole legendary campaign to this shit twice now. There is literally no counter except downloading mods or lucking out, absolutely zero strategy involved at all.
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>>169688818
Have you tried the workaround?
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>>169677003
>>169685991
>not playing isabella right now
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>>169688824
See >>169688909

I did wipe them out, thats the whole problem. They attacked me and lost and regained their whole army instantly anyway.
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Here is your vampire dlc!
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>every DLC and expansion from now on will be accompanied by something for Vampires
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>>169688976
Yeah
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>>169687531
>implying they wont censor them hard

Just look what happened to Isabella. They censored her breasts and thighs. And her fucking eyebrows as well.
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>>169689006
So it was on their turn. The vamp army isn't removed until it's defeated twice in a turn or once with no movement left to retreat, they regain some hp after the loss. When they're defeated on their turn they can just raise more dead and try again later, that's why you don't let them take the initiative. Have you even played vamps yourself?
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>everybody freaks out before release thinking brets have better econ than the empire
>brets actually have one of the worst economies in the game
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>>169689174
>like Vampire Cunts for their giant Bat Hulks and Blood Knights
>am pleased for them getting attention and releasing a Kemmler & Krell faction soon
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>>169689004
she looks like a post op All Might.

I wait for her to get some reskin mods. maybe even eyebrows lol.
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>Bretonnia has better cavalry and faction mechanics than the Empire now
>>
> Bordeleaux
> Turn 50
> Bretonnia is unified
> Economy is fucked up
> The Lady is getting bad traits because she is raiding the WE
> The Duke is getting bat traits cause I can't move him from Bordeleaux or I go bankrupt

H-Help!
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>>169689274
Thanks captain fucking obvious but thats irrelevant to the issue that this mechanic is brokenly OP.
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>>169689276
Bret economy snowballs pretty quickly if you manage it right
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>>169689006
Did you siege them to prevent them from summoning a new lord? Actually, I'm surprised no mod included a Burn all corpse post battle action
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>>169689342
Bretoonia has horse archers wtih GRENADE LAUNCHERS?
Bretoonia has horse archers with 360 degree firing line of sight?
Bretoonia has knights that don't look like runaway circus?

also, cavalry is not even Empire's main shtick, kickass artillery is.
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>>169689274
>Attack them
>Win
>they retreat, get new army in their next turn

>Defend against them
>Win
>They get a new army and attack again in the same turn

Yeah, no, hes right. Its a stupid system. Just make it so it takes 1 turn to recruit units from the fights so vampires can get all their troops back but AI/players can counter it if they act.
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>>169689391
No, you just need to git gud, that's just how vamps are. You put yourself in this situation when you can and should avoid it. Literally all you need to do is deny them the ability to attack you like that.
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>>169689369

Build the building that gets rid of shit traits.
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isabella a qt
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>>169689429
This wasnt a siege battle
>Two vampire armies leave their town and attack my lord
>Fight them and win
>They then regen their entire army within their same turn even though both lords got murdered in the fight and all units crumbled

There is zero logical reason why any vampire army should remain, and honestly this sounds more like a bug now I think about it. If the lord had escaped then I could get him recruiting but he was dead, murdered in combat, and a whole different lord took over and then recruited a 20 stack instantly.
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>>169689547
I really want to remove that beehive hair, it makes her look like an Ayy-lian queen on top of her vampire features.
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>>169689487
>Attack them
>Win
>they retreat, you btfo the remnants again
>no more army
Wow, that was hard.
>>
Am I just a shitter or does Bretonnia kind of struggle with beating Wood Elves?
Their archers melt my shitty infantry away in seconds and then there is nothing left to deal with the large amounts of Eternal Guard, who in turn fuck up my cav really badly.
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>>169689339
Who?
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>>169689416
Teach me your peasant wisdom churl so that I might better provide your shield.
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>>169689627
>they retreat, you btfo the remnants again
I was talking about playing on very hard or legendary where the AI actually doesnt let you do that not normal which you obviously play.
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>>169689640
Are eternal guard still somewhere near Chosen in their efficacy?
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>>169689547
Thicc.
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They seriously called one town/province Bordello?
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>>169689536
>you put yourself in a situation where you have to fight a faction
You are actually too stupid to understand basic reasoning, no more replies for you.
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>>169689757
Non-vnderstander pls go. I haven't played below VH since M2, but maybe you should consider doing that seeing as you are unable to plan one turn ahead.
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>>169689659
>trade with fellow brets and the empire/dorfs
>build farms
>build windmills to upgrade farms
>tear down windmills once farms fully upgraded
>repeat with the non-farm building chain
>do this everywhere

It's easy friendo, also places like Marienburg/Bordeleaux give you harbors which give a fuckton of income.
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>>169689757
Not him but I play only on VH or Legendary and rarely have any issue running down a retreating army. Sometimes it takes more than one battle though.
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So, Brets confederate by researching, not normal politics, right?

What if AI researches "Confederate with [Your Province]"? You lose?
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>>169689547
>my feet hurt
>its too bright here

Someone write the rest.
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>>169689659
1) Research confederation techs until you have them all. Don't bother with any econ techs until you've united bretonnia
2) Confederate with everyone
3) Build farms and windmills in every region and establish trade with every foreign faction you can.

It's pretty simple really
>>
Holy shit I fucking hate these minotaurs
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>>169689627
>I play on Normal; the post
You should try legendary some time
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>>169689832
>doesn't even understand what he's doing wrong
Who let the babbies in?
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>>169689771
EG are incredibly cost-effective, yeah
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>>169689926
>cup empty. ran out of mortals. so thirsty.
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>>169689618
That's the whole gimmick of undead armies, their armies are literally just bodies and so long as they have enough dark magic (and they will since the AI cheats that hard) they can just raise them again and again.
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What settings should I lower to get bit of FPS boost, but not having grafix drop too much?
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>>169689791
That's nothing. The last upgrade in the order building chain is a brothel. Building it decreases your chivalry.
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GOD GIVE ME ISABELLA ALREADY
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>>169689936
>fewer anti-large units than the opposition has large units
What did you expect?
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>>169689870
>>169689884
>I play on VH or higher! I promise!
Yeah, sure you do kid, also stop with the phone samefag its sad.
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>>169689936
You need more gobbo archers
Not even joking
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>>169689880
>>169689932
Thank you anons. Tonight Bretonnia shall rise again.
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>instead of helping deal with the chaos invasion pictured here, the inbred rock-fucking midgets of clan angrund and karak hirn decided to raze grunburd, eilhart, and marienburg before running back off into the mountains to shove gems up their asses
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>>169689941
>>169690082
>i can't outmaneuver the AI
Maybe legendary isn't for you my intellectually stunted friends? You do know it doesn't actually get smarter?
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>>169689914
AI can't research them which is why you never see Bretonia confederate.
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>>169690062
Is it the building that allows recruitment of Damsels?
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>>169689936
You have virtually no anti-large of any kind, of course you're going to get rolled by dedicated anti-infantry combat monsters.
>>
Lewd Isabella mod when?
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>>169685858
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873585712&searchtext=
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>>169690060
turn on 2d portholes.
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>>169690060
turn off shadows
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>>169690131
But iv beaten legendary, twice. I just think hes right in saying the AI shouldn't get the ability to regen their entirely army if they lose the whole thing in a turn. Players cant do that, why should the AI? Its quite obviously a bug.
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>>169690082
Anon...have you run out of tendies?
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>>169690117
That's what you get for grudging a dorf
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>>169689474

Artillery is garbage in this arcade zerg rush battle style. Even in Shogun 2 artillery had time to make an impact.
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>>169690279
not him but are you stupid, if you're using sat which you obviously are you have two different IP address and it wont show up as two (you)s. bad samefag troll, bad, you're too stupid for this thread
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LADY
GRANT ME GUIDANCE
SHOULD I RUN LIKE A COWARD?
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>when your'e about to be enriched by superior,warm beastmen seed
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>>169690236
But players can in fact do that. I regularly threw two stacks of zombies with disposable lords at a target as vamps, and you are left with a few survivors even if you lose. Then you just raise dead from the casualties and initiate battle with the other army and reinforce with the first, both now with higher tier units. You don't even need recruitment buildings.
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>>169690376
Auto resolve is a mistake, it should be removed, as should the chance to win bar.
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>>169690139
What an unchivalrous remark.
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>>169690424
Now you're just shitposting or misunderstanding the situation at hand. Go back and re-read it, its not possible for the player to do what the guy described.
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>>169690457
>remove autoresolve
Fuck off, it's the only thing that makes late-game bearable in TW games. I don't want to fight every shitty little garrison or stacks of marauder horsemen manually
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>>169690457
>you should waste time on every "6-man garrison of shit units vs full stack of elites" battle
go fuck yourself
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>>169690457
>chance to win bar
It has a point in this case - I have fuck all infantry against against about 10 stacks of swordsmen.
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>>169690529
This is true, if a player recruited two new lords to make use of a massive Raise Dead pool, those armies would contain varghulfs.
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wew
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so lads how's Bretonnia?
are Foot squires OP?
is Bretonnias infantry core better than the dwarfs?
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>>169690790
HONOR IS ALL
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>>169690790
RIP max rank cav ;_;
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>>169683815
get some powerful enemy, set war coordination target for Artois, once their big army gets rekt, they will happily confederate
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>>169690790
nice meme army
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>>169690815
They are a pretty strong faction because of their cavalry, but peasant units are really terrible, especially the melee ones. You need to bring a Grail Reliquae to make them last longer than 10 seconds in combat.
Foot Squires are quite strong for their price, but that's about it.
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>>169690815
Chivalrous
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>>169690159
>Knight’s Vow is now innate in all Lords.
how is this fixing bretonnia?
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>>169690997
>autismoftotalwar starts a "Kekistan" campaign
>C O N F I R M E D
What?
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>>169690997
M A D M A N
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>>169687531
Tits and Weiners DLC - 2.99$
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>>169691086
https://youtu.be/J2ZJAtPRmaI
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I want historical gunpowder total war, reeeeeeeeee.
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thanks CA
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>>169688162
>BDSM Giants
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>>169691196
Play medieval 2
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>>169684392
>the lag
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>>169691192
XD kek lol my favorite 4Chan meme
praise kek!!!1!
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>>169681451
Seriously, Angrund's campaign goes downhill so fast after you've retaken eight peaks.

You either conquered enough of the dwarf/orc settlements on your way over and you're now invincible bigdick dwarfking and all the other little manlets fall over themselves to confederate you

Or you didn't gain enough power on your way over and thorgrim created dwarf NATO while you weren't looking, and the rest of the game devolves into hot dwarf on dwarf action
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>>169691219
Serves you right for using a shitty waifu mod.
>>
>Isabella unlocks on March 1st Australian time for Australians
>2 hours from now
>IT RUNS ON FUCKING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME
>IT'S 11:55 WHERE I LIVE
MOTHERFUCKER
>>
>>169689541
Can't.
Is too expensive.
I'm getting + 300 gold per turn.

It seems that the game is kind of easy as long as I don't leave Bretonnia, which sucks.
Another option is to just send all my armies to the Athel Loren forest and destroy the WE one by one.
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>>169690139
Damsels are pure. Pure!
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>>169691192
Wtf is that?
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>>169690997
>>169691192


This site is 18+
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>>169691219
man I fucking hate chariots

what's the best counter to them?
I just quarelled them down in my dorf campaign but it takes ages to actually take out a unit and the AI always makes sure to recruit 10 more to replace it
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>>169691086

That he's indeed, autistic
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Could anyone quickly explain what the differents units in Shogun 2 are for?
Like, is it worth making cavalry at all since the most basic units are pikemen? Or how do I use the two-handed katana guys? Or the naginata samurai?
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>>169691310
Anything is better than Old Crone Damsel.
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>>169691294
Jesus

>>169691467
I'm just posting the link, don't autism on me please
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>>169691452
Pure what? Pure sluttiness?
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>>169691570
Katana beats spears
No-Dachi is shock infantry
Spears are for holding/killing cav
Naginata is all-rounder
Katana cav beats Katana infantry and No-Dachi infantry
Spear cav beats other cav
Great Guard is the only thing that comes close to being shock cav
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What is the best way to grab marienburg on louen start?

If you kill orcs on turn 3, marien will recruit a full stack

If you go for marienburg on turn 3 and besiege it, your peasants can't take that shit, marien will probably sally out, your region will be taking that sweet -11 or so control penalty and the orcs will grow a stack to invade your ass.

So what do?
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>>169691261
If i want melee combat i will. Btw how is Empire TW now? I played it when they first released, it was horrific but still enjoyed. People saying about darth mod but idk, last time i pirated that buggy mess and darth mod didnt work on pirate version and i dont want to pay to a buggy mess again.
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>>169691480
heavy cavalry
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>>169690296
tell that to my mortars with 700 kills per battle. They force the opponents hand in multiplayer and are great for causing routs.
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>>169691820
Napoleon is more polished,there's fall of the samurai
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>>169691480
You have to bog them down in masses of bodies and they should fall rather easily since they are terrible in melee.
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>>169691728
>shock infantry
So horseless cavalry? What should be the ashigaru/samurai ratio?
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Zombies and skeletons vs lance formation
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>>169671407
>start Leoncouer
>have a shitty early game
>can't fuck with Mousillon
>slowly build up rep as I focus farm cash money bonuses first
>farm the greenskin rebels for free levels
>turn 20: Leoncouer is almost Rank 9
>get access from people to march south
>tickle some beastmen nutsacks
>piss off mousillon
>for some reason the red duke has 3 full stacks plus a tier 2 garrison
>for some reason, the duke ONLY goes to Lyonesse
>Manage to confederate with Lyonesse
>kill duke dook
>confederate right after with Parravon
>have enough leniency to have more peasants in a second army
>march that shit onto the non-garrison army outside Mousillon
>win the fight, 2k vs 4.3k
>I now have a decent infrastructure and ability to support a second moderately sized peasant army

I'll give it to CA, despite this fuckup of EA Brettonia the campaign is fun.
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any mapfags know how to update your map to be compatible with the latest version of Warhammer? says my map is incompatible
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>>169691939
OH SHIT
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>>169691939
lady bless
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>>169691939

If you win , I will lick my balls
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>>169691294
please leave Arch/Sargon
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>>169690296
>he doesn't tie up units with expendables to allow time for arty to make an impact

Do you play on Easy too anon?
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>>169691480
They're ass in combat. You just need a super heavy anvil to tie them down, and then some light cavalry to pin them in place. As soon as they're stuck in a fight they can't just pull out of they melt super fast.
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So the conclusion is that you shouldn't kill the orcs and just farm the incursions until the debuff goes away, since killing the orcs makes marienburg have no competition whatsoever?
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>>169692118
Post the webm on /b/ if you do.
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>>169691814
I went over to take Gorssel after taking out the orcs, and Emil came to save it. Much easier to beat him in the field without a garrison backing him up.
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>>169692282

Of course, if he is playing on normal, I couldn't care less
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Warhammer is starting to be an awesome game or just me? man loving it and I'm not even a fantasy fag.
Still wondering what the game will be when we get the 16 (plus 4 chaos divided factions)


one man can dream.


Also, some lorefag enlight me on dinosaurs riding dinosaurs.
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>>169690369
I haven't heard a genuine rage of autism like that in a long while. Good work.
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>>169692290

Everytime I go to gorssel Emil just says "fuck it" and sometimes he go to couronne.
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>>169691914
No Dachi can rack up great kills, but don't expect them to last long in a defensive situation. Use them for flanking strikes.
Spear Ashigaru are good units all the way up to late game, especially so if you play as Oda. They should be your army core for quite some time.
You should focus on getting some Katana Samurai for their infantry killing power. Also Bow units and later Matchlock units are very strong.
Some Yari cav is good for killing enemy generals and katana cav.
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hows Issabella/the new VC start?
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>>169692360
It's like Warhammer 40k, but without all the guns and in a slightly more optimistic world.

Until Games Fuckwhop decided to destroy it.
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Is Izzy already out? How many hours?
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>>169692404
If he goes to Couronne you can beat him there though. He shouldn't be able to take it before you get there, and if he retreats you're behind him. If he doesn't react at least you get gorssel which he may try to take back after you leave it.
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>>169692428
I'm a complete scrub when it comes to Total War, so I guess I'll use two, maybe three katana samurais, 5 spear ashigarus and 5 archers ashigarus.

That should do until I learn to not give up the game at midgame.
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>>169692572
That's a good army comp for early game, you should be fine.
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>>169692543
2 hours (4 PM GMT)
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>>169692617
Honestly, my main problem is that with every Total War game ever, I give up as soon as I reach mid-game. With the Chosokabe, as soon as I unite the Kyushu, I give up.
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>>169691814
One turn of recruitment at the border of marineburg then take it on turn 2.

A couple of turns of healing/recruitment then go fight the orcs, they don't have time to raid your land.
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>>169691954
I like it a lot because you have to play aggressively to avoid bad traits and chivalry penalties but you also have a relatively safe place to expand and don't have to worry much about being attacked while you're out crusading. It might be my favorite campaign so far.
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>>169692709
Excellent music taste

That song is pretty good live
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>>169692709
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE
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>>169692360
Lizardmen and their masters Slann were created by Old Ones as a safeguard against Chaos

They come in several sorts:
Slann are fat frog-like mage-priests with great magical talent. The earlier generation a Slann is, the more powerful he is. They normally fly on big stone thrones, though Lord Mazdamundi, head Slann and msot likely their main Legendary Lord and faction leader, rides a huge-ass dinosaur. Slann obey the Golden Tablets left by the Old Ones.

Saurus are regular lizardfolk. They are strong, have very tough scales, slow brains and almost no emotions. They are sexless and born in spawning pools. They are also functionally immortal, so their leaders have literally thousands of years of combat experience. They serve Slann unquestionably.

Skinks are servants of Slann and also light shooty infantry (and fly on flying dinosaurs). They are more emotional and don't believe into the Old Ones that much. During war with Skaven they somehow managed to create a new god, Sotek, so many Skinks now worship him. Slann don't approve, but don't do about it either, 'cos nothing is said about Sotek being bad in Golden Tablets.

Kroxigors are massive croc-like lizardfolk with almost bestial intellect.

Dinosaurs are jsut dinosaurs that live in Lustria and were tamed.

Lizardmen have Mayinkatec style, wield them obsidian-bladed sword-things and blowpipes, wear lotsa bling, etc. They also use highly futuristic Old Ones' artifacts, like a laser-shooting gauntlet one their named dude uses.
They are immune to Chaos corruption and are mostly defensive, but can attack anywhere if it's somehow warranted by Golden Tablets or if something affects the balance of the world or something. Blue and orange morality, really.

And that's sorta it.
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>>169692703
Do it for advisor-chan
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>>169691570
Ashigaru cost half their Samurai counterpart in upkeep, making them more cost efficient.

Swords beat Spears, Spears beat Cav. Archers beat low armour and gunpowder murders High armour units.

Yari Ashigaru have an ability called Yari Wall. When using it they will beat multiple Yari Ashigaru not in shield wall, and will even beat Yari Samurai (thus why you should never use Yari Samurai).

Cavalry are good but require good micro and timing because they get murdered by spears. Light Cav are good for harassing, baiting and mop up. Katana and Yari Cav are for flanking charges and murdering archers quickly. Yari for shock, Katana for utility

Early game you want equal parts Yari and Bow Ashigaru. After a while you'll want to start including Samurai units. Focus on whatever your clan is good at (its something meme like Ninjas or Siege). Late game you'll need to fully transition to Samurai, or have a blacksmith upgraded for armour, because Ashigaru melt when confronting good archer armies (like a late game Bow Sam stack)
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>>169690376
FOR THE LIEGE
AND LADY
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>>169691814
Either attack it turn 2, or attack Orcs, turn 2, Siege Marienburg turn 3 and wait for them to sally. You'll easily defeat their garrison in the field thanks to OP cav. The second method takes longer, but is arguably safer. Haven't tried it on VH/Legendary though
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>>169692360
The original creators of the world (the old ones) created the dinomen to be their slaves/soldiers along with the orks or whatever, the lines are blurred because originally 40k and fantasy were part of the same universe.

In any case, the creators made the saurus and slann/frogs who kept the stargates at the poles functioning. Then the chaos gods from outer space went "im gon fuck yo shit up" and blew the gates to shit, causing rifts into the daemon-realms at the poles and starting the great catastrophe where billions of saurus died, not completly sure of the chronology but i think the high elves managed to stop the chaos incursion. The dwarves just went "fuck this" and closed their gates to the outside world".
Now there are only a few left in the jungle-parts of the world, and they reproduce asexually by spawning fully grown from "pools/vats". They have the strongest mage in existance and they are probably the coolest original faction. Also they fucking hate chaos
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How is this for an Empire Stack?

Karl on Griffon
Amber Wizard on Griffon
1 Warrior Priest
1 Witch Hunter
2 units of Greatswords
2 Units of Halberds
2 Hellstorm Rocket Battery
2 Hellblaster Volley Gun
2 Units of Demigryph Halberd
2 Units of Reiksguard
3 Steam Tanks
1 Luminark of Hysh
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>>169693332
I thought the old ones blew up the stargates themselves because the Necrons had worked out how to travel through them and were relentlessly hunting them down with anti-psyker tech
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So is Bretonnia most comfy campaign so far?
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>>169691814
You attack Marienburg turn 2 and fuck them up, it's really not hard.
You place your whole army on one flank, kill the 2 nearest towers with your trebuchets and then make a hole in the wall. You can use your lords or peasant mobs to bait tower fire so they don't shoot up your trebs/archers. Then you use archers to shoot up the infantry inside.
They will have a mortar inside, so use your lord again to bait i's fire and make it waste all ammo on him.
After that's it's basically just mopping up with your cavalry+archers.

It's cheesy, but it's pretty much the only viable strategy on VH/Legendary
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>>169692992
I want to fug her...

>>169693150
I usually pick Chosokabe because I like bows, I guess I'll use hunting camps.
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>tfw my tactical autism prevents me from only having a single copy of a unit
>I end up with 6 cavalry 4 flying units, 4 ranged, 2 heroes and only 3 melee

How do you fellow understanders do it?
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Is Gelt finally worth playing now after the recent changes?
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>>169692986
well. They sound amazing.

It's weird how warhammer has such cool lore and yet GW decided to scrap all this shit
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>>169693403
Shit
Too many different units
Make a strong infantry core of GS+Halberds+Handgunners and add Reiksguard/artillery to your liking
And not so many fucking heros, go with a single BP or Life Wizard
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>>169693524

>3 melee
>not having all your units have even numbers
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>>169693546
he's good enough
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>>169693632
>not having 2 heroes as companions
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This is fun

A of literally all my neighbours, chaos,beastmen, crooked moon attacking me at the same time has reduced my legendary campaign to this
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>>169693413
you just have to help your friends with their wars and sit in your comfy castle, so I would say yeah
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>>169693546
+10 armor passive is pretty great, also Lore of Metal got a good buff
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>>169693685
How did you get your campaign map to look like that? A mod? Mine looks like some retard put on fullbright.
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>>169693413
>allied with every Bretonnian and Empire faction, wiping out Greenskins and Beastshitters left and right, swimming in Marienburg money
>all before the first wave of Chaos even comes along

Yeah, they're ultra comfy.
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>Attack greenskins turn 1
>Now marienburg has me sorrounded and there's fuck all I can do about it.
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>>169693813
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=754870269&searchtext=map
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>>169693909
Awright, I know what I'm using for my Vlad and Isabella playthrough.
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My 6 knights of the realm obviously didn't make it, and since I don't have the mod that nerfs marching stance, they were able to run back to their city and recover a lot of their losses before I could strike back

But I wanted revenge or something so I went straight to Mousillon with my army and there's a lot of zombies here
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>>169693403
>>169693564
His list is fine.
Nothing wrong with a lot of different units.
Really weak infantry core but the heroes and steam tanks make up for that.

It's overly expensive and showy but it'd work well enough.
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16 minutes til Isabella boys
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new player here

how do I deal with this? I just wanted to get rid of the bretonnians

the elves are not attacking me yet but they keep bringing more armies and it's only a matter of time before they attack me

I've never seen the elves in battle, hope I can kil them with chosens, chaos knights and a couple of cannons.
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>>169693403
I usually go something like this

1xLord
4x spearmen w/shields
2x halberds
3x greatswords
4x handgunners or crossbows
1x Reiksguard
2x Demigryphs, usually one of each
1x Cannon
1x Hellstorm

I don't usually do heroes in empire armies but you could always swap out an infantry unit if you wanted to.
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If you're a pleb like me and had brets early but they were broken, I just seen that they installed.

Did CA release them early?
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>>169694001
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>>169694136
Actually looking at it now there's a slot left over for a hero anyways lol.
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>>169694103
>facing Archaon
You're done for. Archaon is like a Dalek.
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>>169694103
>poor little chaos guy.jpg
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>>169694148
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Should I play on Very Hard or Legendary as a new player?
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>>169694103
You fuck their shit up but not in a really cost effective manner. Grab some manticores is the best idea.
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>>169694240
Read it again... He IS Archaon.
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>>169694296
Absolutely not.
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>>169694312
>Archaon versus Archaon
Oh boy, you fucked up.
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>>169694296

Legendary WRE etc etc
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>get back from figthing in marienburg
>almost out of movepoints so chill in Couronne for one (1) turn to replenish
>PROCRASTINATOR -10% movement, -50 chiv, -public order

Oh fuck off
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>>169694265
Too bad that wiping out your enemies doesn't stop them from still being in the way so now I have to retreat and my losses were for absolutely nothing
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>>169694265
watch them have another three stacks again before you can replenish
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>>169694083
It's still 1 hour lad
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>>169693403
>karl
Always a good choice.

>amber wizard
My personal favourite, although all of the others are worth considering too.

>warrior priest and witch hunter
Three heroes may be too many. I'd pick one or the other.

>2x greatswords, 2x halberds
Far, far too little infantry. I'd go 4/6, or 6/4. Men of the Empire are supposed to hold the line with honest steel, anon.

>no missile infantry
This will bite you in the ass. I'd bring at least a pair of handgunners in a late game army.

>2x hellstorm, 2x hellblaster, 3x steam tank, 1x luminark
Holy shit that is entirely too many war machines. I'd take four at the absolute maximum unless I was tailoring an army for a siege or something.

>2x halberd demi
Always, always, always the best choice.

>2x reiksguard
I'm personally not a huge fan, but that doesn't mean they're a bad choice at all.

Fewer war machines, fewer heroes, more ranged and melee infantry.
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>>169694458
steam doesnt list the exact minute it unlocks unless they're listing the full time

it's abreviated mang

incidentally 6 minutes to go
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>>169694296
Just don't

Play on Normal (or hard, if you are good at videogames), once you are used to the controls and battlefield roles, move up to Very hard (Legendary being just Very hard with only autosaves and limited camera movement)
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>>169694514
My recommendations in a list:

>Karl Franz
>Amber Wizard
>Witch Hunter
>4x Greatsword
>6x Halberd
>2x Handgunner
>2x Halberd Demi
>2x Hellstorm
>1x Hellblaster

Artillery pieces can be swapped out depending on who or what i'm fighting. Chaos stack with a bunch of giants and other assorted monsters means i'd take Great Cannon instead, whereas against VC i'd probably just take three Hellstorms. YMMV, this is just my personal take on a late game Empire campaign army. It's what I like using and what works for me.
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>>169690790
fuck
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>>169694703
Isbaella releases 4pm GMT, which is 1 hour and 4 minutes from now
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>>169694140
They posted on the forums about three and a half hours ago that everyone should have it now. I could have reposted that here, I guess. Oh well.
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>>169694703
It's 14:56, anon. DLC doesn't release until 16:00.

>>169694764
Good job, anon! Killing all of the monsters and guns will make mopping them up a hell of a lot easier.
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>>169694764
what the absolute fuck
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>>169693563
They scrapped one of the settings because everyone had their full sets already and it wasn't bringing them enough money.

Axing both would have upset too many tabletop drone buyfags, so they went with the lesser one.

At least they're more liberal with the IP now which could finally lead to some decent warhammer content and you can of course just ignore Age of Smegmar and enjoy the old world.
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>>169694446
One of the best things about confederating early if they have a shrine, so that you have somewhere to have idle lords without that shit. You might even get a good trait out of it.
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>>169694764
Chaos will not recruit new Giants, Hellcannons, Spawns, Knights or Chosen

Every unit disbanded is a huge win for you, you are close now!
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What a nice man.
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>>169694883
send Louen to the local Grail Chapel for reeducation
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>>169694883
Just pray and it goes away soon enough. That shouldn't happen from Valiant Defeats though.
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>>169680593
this is why i like horde campaigns
with only one or two stacks it stays interesting throughout
beastmen are probably my fave campaign
they really need to fix chaos though
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oh fuck, they actually changed the bird model to something else
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>>169694514
>2x halberd demi
>Always, always, always the best choice.

>2x reiksguard
>I'm personally not a huge fan
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So how did your battle against the Mousillon vampires go?

>Taking on 4.2k undead with my 1100
>All skeleton swords, spears and zombies
>No way will my pathetic men-at-arms not rout
>decide to try and eliminate the Red Duke and his army before his reinforcments arrive
>RIDERS OF ROHAN THIS WILL BE A SWORD DAY A RED DAY
>Massed cavalry charge
>entire units of undead go flying
>reform and charge 3 more times as reinforcements starting pouring in
>start taking casualties
>King Leon gets stuck in and can't retreat
>literally 6 units of undead are surrounding the King and are focused on only him
>my knights can't do another charge, their numbers are too little
>time to send in the peasants

Pyrrhic victory but still lost the King for 4 turns.
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>>169694883
>you and your army fight valiantly to the last against the chaos doomtide, bringing down thousands of chaos warriors in battle as well as wounding the everchosen himself
>somehow this makes you bad at defending
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Is there a point at which a broken unit doesn't stop running and no longer can rally?
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>>169695156
I just don't like Reiksguard. When actual interesting knightly orders make the cut i'll use them all day, but generic red/white Reiklander scum are just so fucking boring to me, and Blazing Sun chumps are so late in the game they're not really worth considering.
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>>169695275
3rd time it breaks, it won't come back
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>>169695275
Yes, it is called shattered. Normal rout is flashing white banner, solid white banner is shattered.
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>>169695224
>6 units
wait, Leon is not a combat lord?
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>>169695224
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>>169695224
It didn't. Fucking Lyonesse managed to wipe their stacks out before I had the chance to fight them.
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>>169695224
Didn't take a screenshot but every unit of knights in Alberic's starting stack had at least 350 kills. It's fun to go back to such a heavy cavalry faction after not having played Attila for months and months.
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>chaos runs away from your armies because of cowardly ai

if they could get rid of this shit it would greatly improve the game
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>tfw playing as Brets and just following behing Khazrak One-Eyes horde and taking the empire cities he razes and reclaiming them
>Not even bothering to fight Khazrak because hes making it so easy to get territories
Feeling not very honorable though.
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>>169695368
what did he mean by this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njXQHot64r4

Foot Squire test results:
Greatswords: loss but made greatswords useless thereafter

Longbeards GW: stomped stunities

GG GW: won

Black orcs/hammerers: lost bad

Bestigors: lost, bestigors useless afterwards
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>>169695152
Still a bird, but now it's more like a prehistoric terror bird crossed with a swan than a vulture.
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>tabletop Wood Elf fan
>look at how TWWH captured design of races

>Empire design nailed down 100%
>Dwarf design nailed down 99.999999%
>Bret design probably nailed down 100% (hard to say, half their tabletop minis were old and crappy)
>Vampire Counts design nailed down 100%
>Greenskins design nailed down 99%

haven't seen Wood Elves in combat yet, but anticipate it much
finally, fight Wood Elves!

>everything that should and most things that shoudln't GLOW, GLOW like fucking christmas trees
fuck it. I'm not buying WE. I'm pissed. such nice Warhammer style on everyone and FUCKING FULL-ON WARCRAFT ON MUH ELVES! FUCK!

>>169695559
what kind of combat lord can't take on 6 units? it's not like he was level 1-2, right?
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>>169695567
>Bretonnian trash infantry overcome Dwarven elites

Foot squires were a mistake. But I know that GW just can't change its spots after so many years of titles where all factions had the same roster and units to fit every role. But that is not what Warhammer is about.
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>>169693403
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So what units are worth getting as chaos warriors? I always go for chosen doomstacks but that's not fun
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>>169695765
>he didn't paint his tabletop miniatures with glowing paint
Plebius maximus.
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>>169695042

who?
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>>169695870
>tier 4 barracks and tier 2 blacksmith
>trash infantry
Pick one.
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>>169695765
If you take a look at 7th and 8th ed Wood Elf models you'll notice a warcraftisation already taking place, especially in wardancers and treemen. Warhammer reached its peak of cultural influence at around 5th, 6th ed, and then entered a decline cause of the development of gaming.
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>>169696110
nothing wrong with wardancers
old Treemen looked amazing
8th edition models are crap, I agree, though they have some good conversion bits
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>>169696085
I meant CA ofc

also that squires need a building upgrade one tier higher than Knights of the Realm is just ludicrous. Foot Squires are a unit that should not be. Also, wtf are grail guardians, why not just name them Grail Knights (sword & board)?
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>>169695224
Their armies got wiped before i got to them and i just ended up trampling an unguarded city.
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Is it possible to play this game on easy at least without fighting at all (not counting city defense) and achieving victory purely by economic and diplomatic ways?

(directing your military allies to attack is okay)
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>>169696448
>playing a Warhammer game without fighting

anon, I...
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>>169696448
No, Chaos and probably Greenskins will not care about your peace.

Seriously, mate, if you want to play a peaceful game I would suggest that a series named "Total War" is not the place to start
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>invaded by one and a half stack of Estalians
>it's nothing but greatswords and crossbows
Didn't they say they improved the recruitment AI with the update?
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>>169696516
>total WAR: WARhammer
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>>169696249
Grail Guardians are bodyguards for the fey enchantress and other damsels
It makes sense they're a bit more defensively orientated than the grail knights
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>>169696448
Attila's slavs can do it, they have a victory condition to build a wonder rather than conquer a set amount of stuff. And they can recolonise the regions the huns burn for cheap.

In warhammer, I think the only way you could do it is by letting other factions (chaos and beastmen) raze most of the world then recolonise. Vampires are probably your best bet, but really you'll want to fight to unify slyvannia at least.
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>>169696448
No. You can do that in Grand Strategy games, but certainly not in Total War.
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>>169696516
>>169696619
economics and geopolitics are kinds of war too. not all war is concerned with killing people.

>No, Chaos and probably Greenskins will not care about your peace.
but I can send allies to deal with them
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>>169696249
Foot Squires have a higher tier upgrade to balance them out.
Grail Guardians are even above Grail Knights.
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>>169677379
are those golden chains embroidery or she really wears sexy bdsmy straps (and chain ones at that!) ON her dress?
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>>169696745
Right but of all the strategy games you pick the one most focused on battles, least focused on politics, and that is in a setting famous for being in a state of constant war. Its irony.
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>>169696448
You can vassalize factions and they will get full stacks from a single village (albeit low tier units), and then you can direct them to attack targets of your choosing.

So technically you could have much more armies through vassals than those provinces could provide you. With Empire this is more feasible because more Lords incur a penalty to upkeep. Bretonnia doesn't have this though.
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This is one of the weirdest yet funniest campaigns.
> Southern Kingdoms go into a civil war, while at the same time declaring war to almost every faction in Bretonnia having the beastmen raiding their lands.
> They became so weak that I managed to extort them into becoming vassals and trade agreements without a fight
> Still, Tilea has somehow become one of the 5 strongest nations.

> Civil war in the Empire
> Norland is the biggest power, second only to Reikland.
> Boris sucking Norland's cock
> Kislev says fuck all and goes full berserk on the provinces.
> Ostland and Hochland fell in a few turns.
> Dwarfs losing the badlandsbowl

>>169695224
I think I did it by turn 20 or so.
Playing as Bordeleaux, Mouisillon were never a ''threat''.
Ambushed their army with the Red duke a bunch of time (lost chivalry, cause ambush is baaad) then I went straight to Mouisillon and lured the garrison out.
Cavalry eliminated all the skeletons et voilá, a free port.
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>>169696745
Everyone is always at war no matter what. Your allies have shit to do too. Even if you could send them to fight chaos they would get stomped.
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>>169696448
The clue is in the name, anon. You're going to have to fight eventually.
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>>169696745
Yes, but Total War, the concept, inevitably involves military struggle. You cannot be engaged in Total War without behaving militarily.

And in the Warhammer setting, armed conflict is inevitable. Your allies have their own wars to deal with and there will always be someone who wants you, personally, dead.
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>>169695909
Huh, that's a pretty cool setup actually. I'm gonna save it and try it out later after my Vlad playthrough.
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>You're on your grail quest and about to drink from the cup when this guy walks out of the forest and slaps the Lady's ass.
>Her dress is already soaked and she looks ready to jump on his dick.

Do doth thou do, noble knight of Bretonnia?
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Lizardmen soon, I hope
I need more dinosaurs in my total war games
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>>169697382
>walks out of the forest
I fucking wish, why must I start at war with these fucks as carcasonne
then they somehow upgrade the oak despite not going anywhere or doing anything
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>>169697483
you can literally take the starting army; march straight up to their starting army and auto-resolve a victory

you can then auto-resolve kill one of their settlements; but you need to wait on reinforcements to attack the oak
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>>169697382
Start slapping her ass too.
Hell, give her a public lashing with a cat'o nine tails.
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>>169697382
>pull out my micro penis and enjoy watching him plant his Oak of Life into the Lady
i-it's okay if she's happy
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>Launch total warhammer for the first time since beast dlc
>Start Bretonnian campaign
>pc reboot everytime I press next turn

t-thanks CA
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>>169695765
>what kind of combat lord can't take on 6 units?
The first example will be the best combat lord in the game.
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>>169697598
How do you kill a treeman+orion+army+garrison at the start with peasants that will route at the touch of a fear+terror treeman?
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>>169697754
h-how? what level is he? or how much hp did he start with? this is absurd! he should've curbstomped them!
i've had a random level 1-2 vampire lord curbstomp a six-unit garrison (okay, they lost a few dudes mopping up zombies, still). surely, Grimgor's stronger than that!
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>>169697754
Grimgor isn't better than Kholek or Durthu at smashing huge numbers of low tier units, he's a lord/hero killer.
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what the fuck, i know bretonnian peasents are meant to be diseased and inbred . but losing 1 on 1 against fucking goblins
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>>169697756
"auto resolve"
auto-resolve routinely fucks up match ups
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>Free Bordeleaux from vassalage so I can confederate them
>-50 relations for broken treaties
Alberic, I know that you like taking it up the ass but come the fuck on.

Also, my relations with Carcassone are at 250 but they still don't want to confederate. I suspect that it's coded so that I have to do it with everyone else first.

>>169698116
They're cheaper than goblins.

Think about that. You can drown goblins in a sea of peasants.
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What the fuck is this carcassone niggery

>spawn next to fucking tree jews
>okay fine I will get them eventually, but not with zerp cav recruiting
>ork event pops
>now have to go THROUGH elves to kill orcs
>before I can even build stables

What do
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>>169698116
Goblins are surprisingly hardy, you have to be to survive getting kicked around by orcs on a regular basis and generally leading the life of a gobbo.
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>>169698116
>purebred goblins, heathy and green, who are born for stabbing and practiced stabbing all their lifes
>inbred diseased dirt farmers who were born to die and hardly know which end of the weapon is pointy one

what did you expect?
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>>169698223
Kill the rebellions and level up your lord.
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>>169698223
Wood Elves rarely leave this forest now. You can totally ignore them and they will most likely call for peace later on. Orc raids are auto resolve fodders that will most likely level up your leader to lvl 10+
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>host a lot of games in MP
>can't see if some shitter has a bad connection
>he lags up the entire game for everyone
EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.
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>>169698223
don't cheese the game and just bear the 'incursions'.
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no more than two player in MP? wtf?!
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>>169698135
>>169697598
???
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>>169698456
They're playing on very easy.
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>>169698456
ye you need to fight that army when he's not in range of settlements for reinforcements dingus
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>Ogres riding snow animals are the strongest army in AoS

jesus fucking christ

OGRES WHEN
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>>169698565
>Continually posting AoS with WHEN

But why?
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Four minutes.
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>>169697932
Custom battle.
He has all his abilities and I used them on cooldown.
He would probably do a little better with the balance bar not as fucked as with one unit, but he still didn't rout for ages.

Louen has substantially less armor as well.

And he could've been playing on a harder difficulty where enemy unit bonuses would make it even more crazy.

Good combat lords can kill through around six units of trash if they get good engagements in each, but they can't be a one man army. Which is fine, they shouldn't be that good.

>>169698048
I get the feeling Durthu would do better yeah, which I forgot. I think Kholek would do a bit worse though, lower armor.
Both are more expensive than Grimgor as well.
SP level bonuses would skew them further up in power level of course.

Finally, they're all pretty identical in their roles. They each hero kill very well as well as chop through normal units really well. Grimgor is the worst duelist by far if you take into account cycle-charging though. But for this exercise we will not.
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>>169698541
Too bad he never leaves his town. And still manages to upgrade the oak somehow. Starting at war with them is dumb as hell.
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>>169698565
nobody wants gayge of shitmar garbage in TWW
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>>169698346
I have been taught to watch myself when near an elf, so i don't trust you
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>>169698620
Can't wait to swarm my enemies.
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>>169698456
dude turn off FXAA

it's beyond disgusting
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Co-op should have simultaneous turns, like in Age of Wonder 3

>>169698565
2nd expansion probably, since people think that Elfs, Lizards & Skaven are 1st one.

>>169698614
he's just severely retarded, have some compassion
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>>169698048
>>169698640
I was right on both counts, sort of.
Kholek straight up does slightly worse than Grimgor, though he does get better shit in his skill tree in SP.
Durthu is harder to measure. The AI doesn't interact with him the same as with Kholek and Grimgor, they hold units in reserve more.
But he won even without flock of doom. With flock of doom it'd be even more of a stomp.
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>>169698758
AA is off in that screenshot
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>>169698767
Just "the rest of the old world" sounds like a shit expansion. Last expansion will probably be Daemons and end times. Ogres will probably be DLC for it.
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>>169698565
there was an interview last year where they mentioned working on ogre kingdoms, so not too far ahead from now
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NOW
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>>169698904
must be the jpg then
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>>169698715
patch 6 made them defensive for their forest and the don't go out often.
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>>169698802
Kholek has a charge bonus and is huge right?

How does he do when you cycle-charge him?
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What are some traits that should added to other factions/brettonia in a style similar to beast/doomslayer

>beat Kholek in battle
>lord gains bonus vs large

>Beat the Red duke
>gain speed and ap damage (good at dueling)

>Beat Mannfred
>gain bonus to weapon strength when fighting dwarfs
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>>169698758
What's wrong with FXAA?
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>>169693407
not completly sure of that, but that lore is ancient as fuck so there is probably different versions of the story
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>>169699103
that's the 40k lore; I'm not sure about it on the Fantasy side
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>can't take marienburg on early game as louen on VH/VH

I give up
I tried every single starting possible.

Straight to marienburg and besiege it, assault and lose
Straight to marienburg and besiege it, don't assault it then attacked on the back by orcs
Straight to orcs, then marienburg, he already have enough to sally out
Straight to orcs then gorssel, marienburg either ignores it or send a stack in a single turn, can't win for the same reasons of the first try
Straight to orcs then ignore marienburg, they just shit out stacks all day and park it on marienburg.


The peasants are way too shit, my knights kill 200+ always but get whittled down by crossbowmen overwhelming numbers
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>>169699061
He would do a lot better if cycle-charged, though his charge bonus is actually the same as Grimgor's.
He would be able to get out and charge again, unlike Grimgor though.
Can't be bothered to try it though, original premise of this "investigation" was on a lord stuck in the middle of six other units.
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>>169689006
>I did wipe them out, thats the whole problem.
Obviously not.
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>>169699078
I knew it was coming but you still got me to chuckle.
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>>169699078
>Beat Durthu in battle
>all woodcutter buildings generate +5% income
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>get Lyonesse and Brodelaux as Military Allies
>Both at War with Mousillon
>Get them to pincer attack Mousillon with 2 stacks
>they pussy out and don't do it despite having an advantage

fuck the AI in this game
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KATANA SAMURAI NI GOZAIMASU
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>>169699202
Have you tried not attacking either, and letting the orcs and marienburg weaken each other? The orcs seem to beseige marienburg if you leave them alone.
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>>169699243
ye giant unit charge bonuses disrupt enemy lines more; bigger splash area so they're almost always free of combat to charge again
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>>169699428
While true I'd say that is negligible as a bonus compared to the mass and speed that helps a unit to walk through other units.
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>>169699083
Not him, but FXAA is basically "fake" AA that just blurs the image to hide jaggedness, as opposed to "true" AA which supersamples stuff at higher resolutions to smooth it out.
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>Isabella has no unlock requirements if you pick her instead of Vlad
>Vlad has no unlock requirements if you pick him instead of Isabella (unlocks after 1 turn)
>having them adjacent in battle boosts them

Also it's out cunts
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is reinforcements random in how they appear on the battlefield?
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>>169699396

I kinda did that once

orcs tunneled through the mountains and attack l'anguille from lyonesse with a full stack
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>>169699591
No, that was fixed.
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>>169699591
They should appear roughly in the same direction each reinforcing army was relative to the battle on the campaign map, but it doesn't always work that way
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>>169699591
No, it corresponds to the map position of the army, unless there is impassable terrain at the edge where they were supposed to enter
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>>169699591
Like they are in campaign, you can arrange some neat pincer moves that way
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>>169699202
Weather the orc incursions for the first 20 turns, then go on the offensive.
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You messed with the wrong knight, mon petit ami

>>169699591
no, it should be related to where they are on the campaign map
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>>169699591
I believe reinforcements location on the battlefield is relative to their position on the campaign map.
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>>169692709
>the winged hussars

>tfw kislev dont have an unique army and their tzarina as leader

i hate CA
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>>169699680
>>169699705
>>169699706
>>169699721

okay, thanks for the answers anons
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Bretonnia still doesn't show up in campaign for me. Wat do?

Got no faction unlockers or anything else conflicting running I think. Don't know what else could fuck this up.
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>>169699815
Restart steam
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>>169699781
No one but Poles cares about Kislev & hussars.
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FUCKING
CA
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Holy fuck brettonian buildings are a mess
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>>169699815
Did you press Download at the steam page?
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>>169697673

Seriously, Bretonnians are literal cucks who have to tend an eternity protecting their wife's boyfriend and their wife's son with him for all eternity.
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>>169699918
>UNLEASH THE HOUNDS!
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wat do?

Does the Chivalric Code permit an undead vassal if he abides by feudal laws and upholds the social contract?
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>>169699957

>Wife's son

Actually, I believe canon is that they had a daughter.
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>>169699918
>Release the doge of war
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>>169700054

Never make an undead your vassal

Unless you want vampiric corruption all over your ass without you being able to do anything

Not to mention that they will betray you at some point (hint hint: schemer and opportunist trait)
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>>169700054
>Undead knights that don't need to be fed
>Only have to feed the vampires a few peasants every now and then
Seems good to me anon.
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>>169699886
>he doesnt want the game to be as complete as posible with the minor kingdoms having their unique armies and not reskin imperials
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>>169699918
If you don't do a beast-path or underway interception, do you still lose the lady's blessing?
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>>169699918
I miss flaming pigs
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>>169700158
This
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>>169700054
most likely
it is said that whatever the political or biological differences, a Bretonnian Knight, an Imperial Knight and Blood Dragon will always recognize one another as equal knights and treat each other chivalrously.

>>169700158
that's racist
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>>169700171

>undead knights don't require the 9/10ths tithe in order to protect the peasants

Is undeath really just a higher form of chivalry?
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>>169700214
Cause clearly some shit Empire faction is more important than other races.
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>>169700214
Just download a Kislev reskin mod if you play as Chaos so they look better while you wipe them out
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protip: you can infinitely cycle-charge flying units against enemies on walls; they do a vertical take-off with 1-2 seconds of pause instead of the usual 5 second run up to a take-off so they take very little damage and inflict a ton of damage themselves

before the new starting unit load-out Vlad's 1 vargheist was always enough for me to take forts without upgraded garrisons in the early game
and now he starts with 3
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>>169700409
did i ever say they were more important than major races ?

no i didnt you fucking autist
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I dont have nretonnia or isabelle anymore. Yesterday I played a bit but now they are gone from the campaign selection. What is going on?
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>united all of Bretonnia
>unlocked the additional peasant slot trait
>have barely enough for only 2 stacks
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>>169700278
The Red Duke is crazy though.
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>>169700405
in End Times: Nagash (yeah-yeah, fuck ET, but still) Arkhan the Black remarks how Lady's blessing driving knights forward even as they suffer mortal wounds but keep going reminds him very much of necromancy.
and Arkhan the Black is the greatest necromancer in the world, not counting Nagash himself
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>>169700514
Build farms and farm buff buildings everywhere.
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>>169700479
>unique armies and not reskin imperials
kys
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>>169700514
Apparently Bretonnian agriculture is so fragile removing only a few of them causes an economic collapse.
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>>169684090
Get this shitty age of sigmar art out of here please
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>>169700591
>autist literraly screeching at the mention that in addition of major races being added , human kingdom should be distinctives

my god some peoples
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>Just got home from an extra long day of work.
>Fucking forgot about Brettonia and Isabella right until now when I opened the thread out of routine.
>mfw

It's like when you forget your birthday one day before it happens.
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>>169700226
A retreat is a retreat you plebeian
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>"close" victory
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>>169700697
Except you can safely go a bit over the maximum and still get a decent economy. Also there are non-farm buildings that don't get any negative impact.
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>>169700570
We Witcher: blood and wine now
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>modders have managed to give Alberic Trident in like few hours

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873604654

that's just emberassing
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>>169699847
Still nothing, it even crashes when I select Vampire Counts.

>>169699947
Bretonnia shows up in the steam library DLC menu, but not ingame.

Must be some mod file.. I just don't know which one.
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>>169700798
my birthday is tomorrow incidentally
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Is this Bretonnia DLC a joke? No quests - the only thing to do is gain chivalry. Peasant mechanic highly constricts how many units army you can have, which us barely more than 2 stacks. Of the three factions, theyre pretty much all railroaded into 1 path of expansion. There's hardly any territories because the map is so goddamn tiny. Their building tree is a fucking mess as well.
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>>169700867
Happy birthday in advance anon.
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>>169700798
Enjoy anon, the new stuff is really good.
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>>169700830
>remaining: 2
>mannfred, and the box he stands on
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>>169700852
I would rather fight with a sword 2bh. Cool though.
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>>169700853
Remove all mods and verify integrity of game cache
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>>169700853
>Must be some mod file.. I just don't know which one.

The 10 building slots in capitals mod.
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>>169700852
Embarassing? You modify like 3 values
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Update:

Tried ignoring orcs and marienburg and just farming incursions

Like before, orcs crossed the mountains and attacked l'anguille just when I was upgrading it to walls

This time, marienburg also attacked with a full stack at the same time

Now I got incursions, orcs and marienburg

Fuck it, im just gonna wipe orcs and fuck around with marienburg
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>>169700852
I agree this mod is embarrassing
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>Research Heraldry
>The Dukedoms refuse to confederate even though they like me and I'm allied with half of them

Surely this is not the Lady's will?
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>>169701404
Are you guys all meming me? Why are you struggling with Marienburg so much? You even start with 2 units of Trebuchets to fuck them over with.
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>>169701506

>hurr I play on normal so its easy as shit

>inb4 "I play on legendary"
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>>169674413
could this potentially help my game look better if I have a shitty processor but a stronger gpu?
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Bonuses granted by buildings in that province only apply to the province, not the whole realm, right?
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>>169701203
Thanks, I already thought it was that one. I'll check.
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>>169701487
>allied with half of them

thats your problem - if they have strong military allies (you) they are less likely to confederate as they feel that they are safe enough as is
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>>169701506
I agree they are my military allies :^)
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wish the enchantress would stay fuckin still when floating
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>>169701848
pervert
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>>169701848
she can't, she's riding an invisible cock
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>>169701771
Good idea, they should be easier to confederate with than Lyonesse etc.
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>>169701608
Listen you fucking retard, I even wrote a long-winded explanation how to deal with them specifically for VH/Legendary>>169693432
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>>169701727
anyone please?
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So how do I into neo Bretonnia? How do I even siege? Just trebuchet those walls down and fuck em up with mass horses? Are the foot-troops reliable in any way?

Would really love some generic army compositions from you guys that I can follow until I get into the groove.
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anyone else having issues with the brets? I have the thing installed but they dont show up in the campaign menu
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>>169702420

>Are the foot-troops reliable in any way

The foot troops are not just reliable, they're really good, cost effective at every tier and punch way above their weight, especially with how easy it is to stack leadership bonuses.

Offensive sieges are easily Bretonnia's biggest weakness though.
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>>169702578
How many archers, how many footmen and how many mounted knights should I have? Even ratios with some siege sprinkled on the end? Also interested if they fucked up balancing like with empire on those demigryph bullshitters.
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>>169702578
>especially with how easy it is to stack leadership bonuses.

>mfw going deep into the red tree

We're reaching peasant leadership levels that shouldn't be possible
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how do i get these other bretonnian kingdoms to confederate with me
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if I upgradify a spell I'll only be able to cast the upgradified version?
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>>169702910

>if I upgradify a spell I'll only be able to cast the upgradified version?

The only thing upgrading a spell does is reduce the cooldown, it has no effect on what the spell actually does
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>>169702963
Certain spells have upgraded abilities such as raise undead
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>>169703020

Upgrading a spell in the skill tree has absolutely nothing to do with overcasting
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>>169703080
overcasting? how do I overcast then?
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>>169703080
I thought you had to upgrade spells like raise undead to get the overcast effect
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>>169703151

If the spell has two little triangles at the bottom you can click it twice to cast the overcasted version which will change the effect in some way but cost more Winds of Magic
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>>169703151
Double click. Costs more mana but has a greater effect.
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>>169703151
Click the icon on the hud twice so that both the arrows are lit up when in battle.
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>>169703208

No, you do not
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>>169703210
>>169703226
>>169703247
you learn something new every IRL turn!

... i mean day...
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this game need out-of-combat spells, HoMM or Disciples have
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Louen confirmed best 1v1 fighter in the entire game
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>>169703506
He loses to Tree Hitler
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>>169671407
finished the ROLLAN chart
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>>169703506
>That health

REJOICE
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>>169701953

Listen your retard, unless you haven't realized, they have halberdiers, which absolutely murder your cavalry and infantry.

Unless you show me a video you are talking shit up your ass

>legendary

lie more faggot
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>>169703405
Definitely. Especially considering how the massive spells factor into the lore. Imagine just sitting Gelt in a city for three turns to charge up a spell which walls off the Vamp shitters >:D:D:D:Ddd
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The Duke ambushed me with two other armies.
Omelette du fromage
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>>169703963
damn, that's a lot of kills for littlefingers
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>>169703963
>Omelette du fromage
Oh, fuck off.
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>>169703567
Thanks again, cutie pie!
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>>169703963
>Le Duck
What kind of meme language is this?
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>sieges with bretonnia
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>>169704374
mmm... chivalry
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>>169704237
Le Duc. Not Duck. It's a Duke, not a witch.
Think of Duke Leto Atreides.
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>>169703567
rell
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>>169704237
I have no idea why everyone hasn't just switched to English. Everything else is just a meme. And young people all speak English anyway.
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>play as Isabelle
>Mannlet attacks me after fleeing like a coward from me in round 2
>believe I can kick his ass
>suddenly his huge as fuck reinforcement appears

What the fuck is this shit?
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>>169704457
Nice meme. Have a (You).
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>>169704457
Spoken like a true monolingual.
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>Bullied Mannfred into confederating with me
>Have him hold Sylvania against other angry manlets while the couple goes and conquer the empire.

Get mocked mannlet
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At what level of vampiric corruption do undead armies start taking attrition?

Been lowering Mousillon's corruption and it's below 15% now but Red Duke is sitting there not taking attrition.
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>>169704672

They dont take attrition in territories owned by themselves.
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>ambushing is the only way to actually engage the barbars, since they will always, ALWAYS run away from you
>ambushing is unchivalrous
What the fuck do?
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>>169702792
Red trees are the fucking best yo.
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>>169704653
Can you confederate Templehof too or is it just Mannlet?
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New:

>>169704824
>>169704824
>>169704824
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>>169704808

I never tried, but I assume you can.
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>Lyonesse invites me to War against Mousillon
>Ride my Shitty 16 Unit Army to Lyonesse, don't realise im to close to Mousillons Border
>They send 2 Stacks full with Zombies and Skeletons, i manage to kill them
>Lyonesse's Army just chilles inside their Capital, i regenerate
>Again 2 Full Stacks this time tons of Spearspookers, they kick my Ass, Lyonesse still doesn't care
Fucking Cunts.
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>>169704808
No, they said in a stream that it's deactivated for templehof.
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>>169704780
I just let them sit there while I razed their coastal settlements. As soon as you have walls they can't do shit to you anyways. They ended up being scared enough of me that they paid me for peace while they were number 2 and I was like 7-8.
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The character card for Isabella claims she is a 'powerful spellcaster' and a 'master of the lore of vampires' but I don't see anything that sets her apart from a pathetic necromancer. Whats the deal?
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>>169704974
Everything has walls, but I'm pretty sure two full stacks of those fucks will easily penetrate them.
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>>169704808
real question is can you confederate Mousillon
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>>169705121
No they can't, not with their usual army compositions. Trust me. At least not fast enough that you can't come to help if it's a minor settlement with a small garrison.
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>start Bretonnian campaign
>turn 2
>ORK INVASION -20 CONTROL FOR 20 TURNS FUCK YOU

For what purpose? Where's the fun in that?
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>>169705243
YOU CAN
NOICE
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>>169705301
>Trust me
Only if you are my Lady.
But alright, I'll take the leap of faith.
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>>169705503
Either farm the Greenskins for xp or go attack the settlement

ez
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>>169705598
Shit, now vamps gotta race across the map to confederate them before they get btfo by Bretonnia.
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>>169705707
There's no greenskins on my territory, it's just a random shitty event
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>>169706007
that was just a test to see if it was possible
but I sent one of Vlad/Isabella's starting Vampire heroes to meet them

it takes 8 turns for it to arrive
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>its a chaos has 7 stacks out of no where episode
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>>169706327
>it's a chaos gets chumped by 1 stack of sequential lightning strike battles episode
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>>169706240
It originates from the greenskins in the mountains. Kill them and it disappears. Pay attention.

>>169706265
Still gotta send an army to ensure they don't die and that you get the Red Duke when they're willing to confed. No point in doing it if they get btfo and come crying for help while he's out of commission.
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Has anyone tried The Empire since the patch? Do the orcs shit out stack after stack like when playing Brett?
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Literally started a campaign to slaughter knife ears after my Carcassone campagin
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>>169706327
chaos worst part of the game.
really.
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