/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

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2nd for the Vape Cunt

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I just killed Andre on my first run (20 hours btw DS1). I can still win right?
People can win wearing a loin cloth and being level 1. I can definitely win without Andre can't I?

>>169614217
If you follow the path, the dragon asses don't even aggro you.

>>169614408
>they give you his UGS
>but not his armor or SS

Inconsistencies like this, I fucking swear.

>>169614527
You can, there are other blacksmiths, but you're locked out of weapons that are upgraded with normal titanite and demon titanite.

Use dragon weapons and special weapons, that are upgraded with twinkling titanite and dragon scales. You can upgrade those at any smith, and one of the smiths can't be killed because he literally inside jail.

The smith inside the jail is in New Londo Ruins, the dark place with ghosts, but way before you meet any ghost. Just explore a bit and you'll find him.

I'll make a list of the weapons you can use, just give me a moment.

>>169614580
>DS1:
>Lost Izalith is buried beneath the Lordran sewers
>DS3:
>Lost Izalith is buried beneath a secret collapsible floor
>beneath a secret cave
>beneath a catacomb
>beneath a ruined castle
Holy fuck, how the hell did it get so damn fucking lost? How the hell do you literally lose a city?

>>169614527
why the fuck did you do that

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Is discussing Salt and Sanctuary allowed here?

>>169614527
Yeah, there are other smiths, just don't kill them too. Why would you murder the most important NPC in the entire game?

>>169615110
It's a metroidvania made by completely different developer, so no.

>>169614991
well, when you flush the toiler, the water pulls the shit down the hole

maybe all the fucking lava there finally built up and flushed away the damn city?

>>169614991
well you know how in Futurama when they're done with a city they just seal it in and build a new city on top of it? It's like that

Quick guys, before I'm invaded!

What's the best shield for PvE in DaS3?
What's your primo build for PvP?
What's your favourite mod that doesn't get you soft-banned?

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man the With of Izalith was a big girl

>>169615483
Like everyone with lord soul.

>>169614527
>>169615097
On my first run I managed to kill the priest dude under the first bell because he was just standing there out of nowhere and spooked the shit out of me

Then later I punched andre by accident, so I went on to search how to calm him down

Imagine my surprise when i could do that using the npc I killed first

not my best time

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>>169615483
Her daughters are big too.

>>169615416
Her hand is so blurred it looks like it has extra fingers

>>169615416
>What's the best shield for PvE in DaS3?
Rolling.
>What's your primo build for PvP?
Estus + anything
>What's your favourite mod that doesn't get you soft-banned?
there are mods that don't get you banned?

>>169615564
jesus christ are you holding your controller with your feet?

>>169615097
>>169615128
Pretty much this>>169615564 except that when I use backspace to quit the menus, my character attacks out of nowhere. It's a bug and there's no way around it other than using the menu button to quit or something

>>169615605
>Visible vagina
MOOOOOOODDDDDDDDSSSSSSS

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>>169615663
>controller

Try again

>>169615564
I accidentally hit Solaire in Anor Londo with a Zweihander. Twice. On separate playthroughs.

>>169614947
Could you also tell me where to find those items?
Thanks would be appreciated

>>169615801
>>169615845
>Dark Souls with M+KB
why would you do that

>>169614947
>>169614527
>Hammer of Vamos (Twinkling Titanite)
You can get this one by killing the blacksmith in the catacombs. It's a very solid hammer.

>Ghost Blade/Jagged Ghost Blade (Twinkling Titanite)
This one you can get from the ghosts in the dark ruins of New Londo. It's pretty good.

>Drake Sword (Dragon Scale)
Despite what people say, it's a solid weapon once it's upgraded. You can get it by cutting off the red dragon on the bridge tail. Just buy a shitload of arrows and shoot it from below the bridge

>Stone Greatsword (Twinkling Titanite)
Weights a ton and has no R2, but can be fun. Drops from the stone giants in the forest.

>Black Knight Weapons (Twinkling Titanite)
All are good, but it's luck to get or not them. They drop from the knights that carry them.
There is 1 knight in the Undead Burg (the undead village at the beginning), 3 back at the Asylum (look up how to get back there), 1 down in the catacombs, 1 down in the base of the forest after the smith and 1 on top of a tower just before the big steel boar. So you have a decent chance.

Any of these weapons can carry you through the game and are obtainable easily at the beginning (before ringing a single bell) without needing massive knowledge about the game.

>>169615649
>Estus + anything
Meant to say Estoc

But if you pull out Estus during a duel, it would certainly surprise the opponent.

>>169615826
More like missing vagina and asscheeks.

It's not like they are human or something.

>>169615845
>playing Dark Souls 1 with Keyboard and mouse
Don't do that.

>>169614991
the world is collapsing. the archtrees can hardly support the land and whole areas sink, which also causes the deep waters to rise. it is why areas get deeper and why places originally far apart get closer together. assuming real-like gravity, this might also explain why we are able to fall several hundered meters and survive at places

>>169615993
>took damage but am winning
>opponent one hit away from death
>sip, run towards them, kill them before they get a sip themselves

This is such a perfect way to get fanmail, why does no one do it?

>>169615982
i'm a cheap bastard

>>169615954
you reminded me, I actually hit solaire too but It didn't make him kill me, not really sure if he can do that, whatever

I also killed lautrec without even knowing that i'd have to do it later, my friend tricked me into attacking him and then I had no choice\
lucked out on that, his ring was dank

>tfw thinking about buying SOTFS since I haven't played dark souls 2 since about 2 weeks after it was released
Somebody stop me.

>>169614217
Rank the Souls games by difficulty

>>169616183
>implying I don't

>>169615986
>>169614947
>>169614527
Forgot to mention. Look up on youtube how to find Vamos, if you want to use his hammer. It's not very smart to kill ANOTHER blacksmith, but granted this one is not so important.

If you go with the drake sword, upgrade your stats of str and dex to use it and nothing more, because it doesn't benefit at all from your stats. if you have 99 STR and 16 STR the damage is the same. It's all about upgrading it.

>>169616215
>not really sure if he can do that
he can.

Overall you seem like a real fucking idiot.

>>169616227
You can't really go wrong with it unless you're one of those people that can't stand the handling and pace of DS2 in general.

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>>169614354
I swear to god, I they don't bring back the pardoners as a covenant, I'll make a covenant of my own

>>169615986
>encouraging him to kill the only other blacksmith that can make non-twinkling/demon titanite weapons viable without andre

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Stupid, sexy demon

>>169616464
ssshh

>>169616338
it was my first playthrough and I don't remember exactly what but I think i used rightclick to back out of conversations and I'd often accidentally attack due to spamming too hard

and yes I am a retard either way

>>169616024
>He doesn't use DSMfix

>>169615801
>>169616215
You're full of shit.

I played over 600 hours of DaS with KB+M and this bug is a problem with YOUR computer. Look away from npcs while talking to them or just equip a talisman or catalyst while doing so.

>>169616464
It's a valid option. Vamos' hammer is super strong

>>169616243
all of them and then your mom is at the end of the list because she's easy haha

>>169615986
giant blacksmith hammer is better and the giant can't offer much if you've killed andre. just buy a lot of twinkling from him first

Ive played through DaS1 about 3 times and never found the Blacksmith in the catacombs. I always hear the bastard, but never get to him. What does he do?

>>169616649
It's still not ideal

>>169616183
Dishonorbru dispray.

>Duelling an opponent
>He's using a broken sword hilt
>He's losing, at like 25% HP
>I'm at like 90% HP
>His weapon is utter garbage, as expected
>Try to switch my weapon stance from 2H to 1H to get the parry for a glorious finish
>Accidentally press X instead of Y
>Chug an estus
>Stand there
>Oh shit, I didn't mean to do that
>I need to have an emote to apologize
>No emote, don't have the stone on this character either
>Just run around in circles because I can't think of anything else to do
>Opponent points down
>He commits suicide
>Repeatedly apologizing to the screen
>Tears welling in my eyes
>People starting to look at me funny (at a wifi hotspot at starbucks)
>Start to get nervous
>H-he committed suicide, I say, tears streaming down my face
>Try to run away
>Spaghetti falls out of pockets.
>Slip on spaghetti
>Girl I like sees me and starts laughing
>Scoop up my spaghetti and crawl away on all fours

Feels bad man

>>169616723
Smashes the fuck out of walls

>>169616243
Bloodborne >>> Nioh >>>>> Dark souls 1 > Demon souls > Dark souls 2 > Dark souls 3

>>169616680
Yes but it's pretty far into the game. You have to ring both bells first.
>Any of these weapons can carry you through the game and are obtainable easily at the beginning (before ringing a single bell)

I love that hammer, was my bro on my no pyromancy SL 1 run

>>169616723
Look up on youtube.

>>169616723
>What does he do?
Focus

>>169616784
So go buy DaS3 if I want a Souls game I can probably complete?

>>169616723
Fire and Chaos upgrades.

>>169616183
>>>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7shJMAs7co

>>169616243
The one you played first > the others

>>169616784
Nice try, Nioh isn't a Souls game

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Is anyone else playing SOTFS on PLAYSTATION right now ???

>>169616243
the one you played first > the one you played second > the one you played third > the one you played forth > the newest one

>>169616784
I played DS1 before DS3 (obviously) and found DS3 harder. In DS1, just get a good shield and you can just block your way through everything. In DS3, blocks actually drain more stamina from the blocker than the opponent, so they are almost useless. Getting a backstab is also harder. So it took a lot of adjusting to.

>>169616723
You'll meet him if you go through the Catacombs the "normal" way without immediately jumping into the Bonewheel pit.
He gets his own fancy cutscene and all.

>>169617210
IE: In DS1 you could take on a black knight like this:

>Circle around behind him
>Backstab
>Repeat

With literally 0 skill involved or risk of getting hit.

>>169616568
Just buy a controller, it's so worth it

>>169614602
>SS
I really wanted to use that fuckign weapon again

>>169617460
i don't want to buy something that costs twice more than the game itself just so I can have it a little easier

>>169617587
Enjoy having a spastic character then that uncontrollably swings his sword at everyone he talks to.

Which enemies are harder than bosses?

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>>169617183
>tfw played Demons Souls first

THE best one to start with. It would never be anywhere near the same if I didn't start with Demons Souls

my first playthrough I didn't even know how to upgrade weapons and I went through the first half of the game with a longsword +0 before I gave up.

I think 60% of the demons souls love here is nostalgia 'cause if I went to play that game after all the dark souls stuff as someone younger than their mid 20s it would be kinda lame to be honest.

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How do I NOT use rapier/mace in DS2?
I want to use something else but seems like most unique weapons are acquired late game and they're not even that much better than rapier/mace.

>>169617695
It never happened besides the first playthrough so im fine

>>169617587
Nigga it's not a little easier, it's what the game was fucking designed around. Like, fuck, would you rather save money on your car and try driving it without a fucking steering wheel?

You just admitted you're a retard, so maybe listen to those of us who aren't retarded when we say it's worth it. And it's not like you have to fucking throw it away once you're done with the game, you'll now have a controller to play other games with.

>>169617765
Shit I use rapier + blunt weapon myself. Was thinking about canning the whole thing and restarting with magic or pyro.

>>169617587
you're allowed to use that controller on other games, but okay.

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Where is Dragonsis?

>>169617724
2 pontiff knights supported by a fire witch at the same time is pretty rough.

>>169617724
In DS3 there are these assassin's creed zombies, and if you face 2 or 3 of them at once it can be tougher than a boss. Same thing with taking on 2 or 3 black or silver knights at once.

On a sidenote, why the hell do so many people die in the room with the solitary serpent man after Oceiros? The floor is basically an ocean of blood stains. How the hell do you beat Oceiros but lose to that shitty enemy?

>>169617963
Dragonsis left after being weirded out by Aleksandra.

>>169618061
It could be people with low-vigor getting caught off guard by his spammy flailing attack

>>169615416
normal shield: Black knight

Pyro

I dont use mods

>>169618012
Nah, because they always pair it like this:

One twirly twirly fag who comes straight at you
One sword and shield fag who does nothing
The fire witch, who does nothing but spam the same spell

Just deal with the twirly fag while dodging the fire, then deal with the other fag, then the witch has like no short range defense so he falls easily

>Solaire saying shit about how he's seen as a laughing stock up above

HOW DO I SAVE HIM BROS

>>169617839
>comparing a game to a real life thing
If the fucking steering wheel cost twice as much as the car itself, i'd probably not buy it then if I can go by with something else

>>169617941
no games I play need/can use controller besides ds and my pc isn't good enough so it probably won't be usable on any of the upcoming games plus im super picky

>>169618275
I really overestimate the fire witches because the hitbox on the stabbing grab attack they have scares me.

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>>169617963
I'm still here

Help me, /dsg/!

Is Ashes of Ara-ara worth it or will I wait to buy the season pass?

>>169618428
If you run as close as possible, the stabbing attack the witches do always misses. Don't even need to dodge.

How much of a NEET do you have to be to turn into a fucking slug from overeating?

>>169617587
completely forgo of your mouse. i play with just keyboard and hardly face any problems. move camera with numpad instead

>>169617724
Flame Salamanders in FoFG without cheesing with poison or ranged weapons.

The room in Undead Crypt full of Leydia Pyromancer tombstones and those fucking bells and asshole slaves ringing away.

Doggos in Irithyll.

>>169618061
They probably expected literally nothing since it was a post-boss area, and then got parried by the thing at low health.

>>169615986
How do I upgrade the drake sword and how do I upgrade weapons with twinkling?
I already have a drake sword though. I also have Andres hammer.

>>169618397
enjoy being bad, I guess

>>169618459
wait

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>>169618459
>>>/b/

>>169618459
it has the toughest boss in the entire souls series and is pretty comfy, also the loot is good and the arena was fun when it had players

>>169618459
It's worthwhile if you really enjoy the base game. But considering how the second dlc is only a month away, it's probably better to wait for the GOTY edition.

>>169618608
Talk to the blacksmith in New Londo Ruins, I already told you that. Pay attention.

Andre's Hammer is upgraded with normal titanite, so it's useless for you.

>>169618661
What boss is that? And is the loot that good? I've just bought the PC edition for 10 bucks. Comes out about the same price for GOTY if I buy the season pass now.

>>169618397
borrow from a friend? I think I started DaS with a ps3 controller or even a wii classic controller

>>169614527
YOU

AGAIN

FUCK OFF AND JUST RESTART THE FUCKING GAME.

IT'LL TAKE YOU MAYBE FOUR HOURS TO GET BACK TO WHERE YOU ARE.

>>169618829
i don't have friends

So why was Gundyrs kick as a weapon art removed?

>>169618817
there are only two bosses in the DLC and I can tell you it isn't doggo and skeletor

>>169618972
Because you can kick already

>>169618703
>>169618661
>>169618657
>>169618645
wat

Just want to know what cool items are int he DLC. C'mon lads x

>>169618972
Because no-fun-allowed.

Recommend me a fun challenge run for ds1 or 2. Already did sl1 and no summons

>>169619083
Would you please stop posting 3d garbage?

>>169617039
is this a joke?

>>169618435
What a shame.

>>169619262
bows only

>>169618435

I am so very relieved to hear this.

>>169619262
barehands
no CoC allowed.

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>use catalyst
>spell comes out of the character hand instead of the catalyst

I can't play as a mage because of this shit
it triggers me so badly

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>when your chosen name just fits the character limit

>>169619418
Done it. Spear silver knights were bigger cunts than usual

>>169612397 #

The sword removes the curse and transfers it to the weilder.

The sword may have been a part of a ceremonial vow to the way of white, hence the circlet design and curse removal.

gwyn is the dark lord. He feared the dark, like all dark lords, and lit his great soul on fire to create a bastardized age of fire, and when the fire started to fade, threw himself into it. Frampt supports gwyns decision, but kaathe considers him a fool and wants a true dark lord.

>>169619710
Greatbows only

According to the lore of DS1, a hollow is an undead who has lost all hope and been driven insane, right?
Then why do you "hollow" every time you die, and can spend humanity to "reverse hollowing" at bonfires?

>>169619083
Will you stop posting this shit if i give you an answer?

Dlc is 6/10 maybe. It's short as fuck, the npcs are meh, the weapons and armor are not plentiful at all. The last (and, what feels like, the only) boss is amazing, probably one of the best bosses in ds3, but that's it.
If you woulda liked crown of the old iron king without alonne - go for ir.

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>>169619262
Do a no-dodge, no-block run. Only run to avoid attacks. For extra challenge, no running allowed either.

>>169619083
These people get butthurt if you post attractive women with your post even if it's relevant.

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>>169619319
Fuck dude I bought sotfs on ps4 because I've never played the DLCs before but the base game is so god damn boring holy shit I can't play this alone I think I'm going to just stop.

>want to play as a hexer
>realize I won't have any hex until Karla
>realize all I'll use during the whole game is heavy soul arrow
>crystal sages

that's how a character was never created

>>169619954
I'm pretty sure you can evade 95% of attacks in DaS1 by just hugging the enemy and walking in a circle

>>169619607
It's called a catalyst, m8, what were you expecting?

>>169620130
To be like DaS1 and 2.

>>169619987
If you're leveling Int and Fai then may as well attempt to use Pyromancies instead, you're free to come back to Crystal Sage after getting what you can from Carthus and Smouldering Lake.

>>169619772
>The sword removes the curse and transfers it to the weilder.
But Anri is one of the hollows in the ending.

I don't think it removes the curse from them. I think it's like Yoel, able to just give a curse. But it needs someone who is cursed first to do so.

>Gwyn is a dark lord
These fan theories just get zanier and zanier

>>169619987
>>169620220
Don't you get an infusion that scales with your stupid INT and FTH really early? Just use that to bruteforce shit

>>169620071
Prepare to be surprised a few times.

>>169620414
No

>>169620237


Hey dark lords link the flame all the time. He was very wise and chose to become the lord of sunlight by linking the flame.

Playing ds1 here.
Lightening spear only has 10 uses. How am I supposed to get through the game if I just run out of uses so fast?
I can't purely use miracles for combat can I? I have to use melee right?

>>169620649
They recharge if you rest at a bonfire or die
Don't feel bad about missing that, a lot of idiots do

>>169620649
if you never want to melee you should play a sorcerer. lightning spears are best used to laugh at bosses who become 5 times as easy if you have hard-hitting ranged attacks

>>169620690
But then the enemies respawn too.

>>169620896
Tell me more. Do sorcerers have more charges?

How do I hex in Dark Souls 2?
I never used them
I have to level adp to roll... I also need end for stamina, and vig to survive...

How do I fit ATT, FAI and INT there?

>>169620237


I think a better term is transfers. It doesnt remove your undead status, but it transfers hollowing. Those tall ass priests would be the ones who would do the ceremony

>>169620649
You can stack up attunement and attune the spell multiple times for multiple casts.

Also, a word to the wise: sword durability is a lot greater than spell count

Where can I find a non-broken CE table for 1? I want to try that permagravelord ng+7 hyperaggro mod

>>169621047
if this is your very first time playing ds1, I would immediately advise not going with a magic build because it kind of ruins the whole part where you have to learn the combat system
that said, sorcerers do have more charges. the very basic soul arrow has IIRC 40 charges and you can get 2 or 3 copies of those, and sorcerers also have a bunch of different attack spells (basically variations of soul arrow with a higher level of base damage, and then for each of those levels another variation that does more damage with a longer cast time)
FTH really isn't supposed to be a ranged only build

What if magic didn't consume FP or uses at all but permanently taxed your max stamina until you sat at a bonfire?

>>169621207
I haven't played DaS2 so take this with a grain assault, but you didn't really need VIT in 1. I think my first two runs I ended with sub 20 VIT because I wasn't a facetanking Havel build

>>169621207
By not leveling Str, Dex or Vit. Cloth armor and a basic backup weapon like a dagger.

Since you're going to be fighting at range, you don't need as much End, and you get Agi through Att, so not as much Adp either (just aim for around 96 Agi in the end).

>>169621396
I have the aggression mod, but it's separate from other CE tables.

>>169621680
but how I'm supposed to fight at range if some encounters are triggered by walking into the enemy range in dark souls 2?

>>169621047
listen to >>169621434
run any melee build and take faith/magic/hexes as a bonus.

>>169621817
Trigger, then run away. Or, alternatively, use binoculars and aggro them from range.

>>169621829
>>169621434
Ok

>>169621257
I suppose that's a work around.

You think Dark souls is easy?

>>169621817
You get a shot or two off while they're plonking towards you and then dodge.

Casting does not usually take longer than swinging a big weapon, especially once you get dat speed up.

>>169621829
I honestly wouldn't try to use magic or offensive miracles as a bonus either, because you'll be splitting your stats too much
something like heal and so on is probably fine so you can have some out of combat healing
ds1 doesn't have hexes by the way, dark magic is like regular sorceries

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>>169621917
Okay I'm going in!

2 or 8 decides his name
4 or 9 decides his sex

>>169622094

Cracker

yes

>>169622094
The Champ

Male

>>169622094
Male if 9, female if 4

>>169622094
Female

>>169622017
The entire difficulty came from people not expecting it and/or not being used to it anymore
It gained a way bigger following than DeS ever did, which meant that a bunch of people who only ever played God of War went in and tried to kill everything with epic hitstrings, then got fucking owned by the first four hollows they saw in Lordran, and said WOW THIS IS SUCH A HARDCORE GAME
If you know to take your time, don't get greedy, and be methodical, the game is quite easy. There are so many ways to make it easier as well, like playing a sorcerer, overleveling and stacking VIT and END with a poise setup, or summoning like a wuss
Another thing is that people weren't really used to having to attempt a boss more than 2 or 3 times
I think everyone should be required to play some Ys games before they play Souls

>>169622094
name: male

gender: female

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>>169622017
yes

>centipede demon

god

this boss fight fucking sucks

what the fuck dude

>>169623046
Just glitch him through the wall

>>169623046
When you enter the boss fog, turn right and hug the wall. You'll enter a much larger battle arena that gives you more maneuvering space.

>>169623046
>roll away from the slam
>wait for him to come to you
>wail on him
Don't lock on if the camera positioning is causing you problems
It's like a slightly harder version of Ceaseless

>>169622094
C'mon 4 or 9

>>169623029
that looks fucking garb

What is the optimal build for DaS3 PVP?

I see some people use bloodloss-based builds, does that even work?

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>>169623326
You know it.

>>169622094
Trap

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>>169623123
>>169623140
>>169623259
awful boss fight lads

thanks though, especially for the going right to have more breathing room tip

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Went with male

if anything I just jump on the coffin later

I guess the first step is killing dragonrider and getting my hexes

Can you see the tomb of the giants or ash lake from lost Izalith/demon ruins? Because you can see both from the tomb.

I wonder if the witch of izalith and nito were friends

>>169623671
>awful boss fight lads
Thankfully, that's the worst boss you have to fight in demon ruins/lost izalith ;))))

>>169623793
don't meme on me

I know all about bed of whoops wheres le ground :^)

>>169623793
Let him believe.

>>169623326
Bleed rewards aggressive playstyles so if you're the type to wail on people it's nice. It's also an amazing way to fuck with people who hide behind shields a lot because the bleed will still build up. It really gets in their heads too because they feel way too safe sometimes hiding and when they suddenly take a big HP loss you'll see the panic come out in their playstyle.

>>169623694
They're all bffs man. Witch of Izalith regularly let Gwyn's spears peel her apart and let Nito unleash his miasma in her if you know what I mean
Furtive Pygmy was busy making threads about how alpha manlets are on /fit/

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So I finally became a good goym and bought SotFS, despite having played DS2 for nearly 700h. What should I expect?

Does it actually look better?
Do the new enemy placements make sense?
There is a new npc, right? Is he just some random cunt or does he have a reason to exist?
Did they fix the item durability shit?
Did I make a mistake?

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>>169623682
also for some reason my character is shining

>>169624113
If only I could be so grossly incandescent.

>>169622017
>>169622663

Soulsborne isn't mostly actively hard, it's punishing. The more you suck, the harder it gets.

>>169621996
Spellcasting is fucking boring. You lock on to things and fire away dinky soul arrows.

>>169624032
>bought SotFS
>played DS2 for nearly 700h

>Did I make a mistake?
yes

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>>169624113
Heavens

>>169624032
Not really.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

A scripted cunt to give you an even shittier final boss battle and a more nonsensical ending.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes.

>>169617724

2-3 of the fatty Cherubs in Lothric at once
both of the Sillyman Beasts at once
Hawkwood is harder than the Abyss Watchers
Hodrick when he parry fishes

>>169624032
>do the new enemy placements make sense?
Some make more sense than vanilla game, some less so.

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>>169624176
With your own logic anyone could counter what you said with "Melee is so boring, you just lock on and swing a piece of metal". I don't see how people find casters boring but to each their own. At least find a better way to defend your opinion.

>>169624005
>dark end is manlet uprising

>>169624347

O, and the Outrider Knights are harder than many of the bosses

>>169624176
I enjoy being overpowered every once in a while, but I have something wrong in my brain that also makes me love playing mages in cRPGs even though they're always easy mode
That said, soul arrows are definitely NOT plinking away at enemies, you can either use the lower damage ones to completely replace melee attacks while still dodging or blocking normally, or you can demolish everything with insane damage

>>169623918
I never used bleed builds, but from what i've seen, it totally fucks with heavy armor wussies.

I myself use a light-armor PVE (which is the reason i asked in the first place) build, so their bleed doesn't even affect me that much.

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does the dragon roar buff affect spells?

>>169617724
-The big fuckers in Dragon Aerie, more specifically the mace one.
-Cathedral Knights who use the UGS

>>169623029
How is this any good? Poison only does 300 damage max. Please don't go around and make from think poison is fine because its not.

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>>169624347
>Crucifixion woods Hodrick
Legit scared

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>>169624245
I just got it because of a friend desu. I'm also hoping there still is at least one build that would offer me a little bit of fun. Any suggestions?

>>169624325
>>169624379
Well, shit.

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>>169624347
>Hawkwood
>hard

I never understood this meme.

Hod is a god though.

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>>169624286
>>169624161
Shit how many steps is it again?
I counted seven then run, but failed

So I hear DS2 loves throwing enemy groups at you and DS3 just puts Bloodborne enemies everywhere
Does this mean there is no point in using slow-ass two handed giant STR weapons because you will just get fucked by the groups and the insane speed, respectively?

>>169624532
Well if we're talking PvE, Bleed is really really overpowered in my opinion. It makes a lot of bosses trivial. If you were to use Warden Twinblades and buffed them with Carthas Rouge, you proc the bleed every 2 fucking swings it seems. Dancer, Nameless King, Pontiff, Aldritch, Twin Princes, Ocieros, both dlc bosses, it's fucking ridiculous man. They die TOO fast.

>>169624032
If you didn't have the DLCs, Scholar is good for those alone and the increased online activity. If you played DS2 for 700 hpurs you're probably never stoppoing playing it anyway.

>>169619630
Shad pls

>>169624719
I've never played DS3 and even I know you don't do three R1s against a guy who has his parry tool right there

>>169617724
Pontiff "Stamina is working as intended" K***hts.

>>169624032
I assume you're on PC, right?

SotFS is much better optimized than base DaS2, you'll get smooth 60 FPS quite easily.

Enemy placements can be hit and miss, depending on your opinion. There are actual Heide Knights at Heide's Tower of Flame now (which means you can actually farm their armor and the sword), and the item placement has moved around somewhat (you can get infusions right after beating Pursuer, instead of having to slog through Iron Keep). Personally I found that the placement changes make more sense in over 80% of the areas.

There's a new NPC and some new random invasions. He technically has a reason to exist, but he does nothing but talk and be an optional final boss.

Item durability is still shit, you'll probably want to carry two or more weapons at all times regardless.

Depending on how much money you paid, it may not have been a mistake. I found SotFS to be well worth the $17 I paid for it, if you paid more then it might not be worth it to you.

Any idea if dark souls 3 runs well in potatoes?

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>>169624748
Nevermind, 7 worked. Must have fucked up the count.

Now the question is

Do I need her or can I just drown her for the rotunda

>>169624808
Kind of, it just makes it a little harder. All ultra weapons get HA if you have poise but that doesn't help much against bosses.

>>169624808
No, big weapons are good in ds3. You need no poise to withstand most attacks. Only thing you need to keep an eye on is your stamina.

>>169624808
They do an okay job of mowing groups in 2, but you'll wish you were dead when they don't.

They're fine in 3, just kind of underwhelming in terms of how hard an r1 spamming weapon can blender shit. Because they're BB enemies, they stagger really easily, so you can just trade everything without giving a shit, while fastrolling with a heavy weapon.

>>169625006
I have a shit PC, but it runs pretty well on lowest settings and resolution.

>>169625006

Only vanilla DaS2 does that.

>>169625064
she will fuck you up

>>169624719
People say Hawkwood is hard because you can't interrupt his UGS swings and he can hit hard plus he has more estus healing than other NPC's you fight so it can drag on. Hodrick however is instantly piss easy if you keep him debuffed with Lloyd's Talismans because when he wants to heal, he'll repeatedly try to drink his estus even though he can't.

>>169624808
Ignore both of those memers. All of the Soulsborne games have large gangbangs and DS3 'bloodborne enemies' kjkare balanced with the game's general speed. And you can use slow ass weapons in Bloodborne too just fine despite the game having large gangbangs of fast enemies.

>>169625127
>>169625089
>>169625081
I see. Luckily, I enjoy a faggy katana or halberd more than a slow big weapon anyway
>You need no poise to withstand most attacks
What do you mean by that? They do so little damage that you never stagger?

>>169624347
>le Hodrick is hard meme
Just 2hand a great weapon and tear him apart when he brings out his shield.

>>169625064
If you kill her and if she falls into the water you won't be able to get it for a long time as it starts like a timer which takes hours before you can go back and get the thing from her gravestone or some shit.

What's the fastest weapon (let's say fastest 1HR1) in all of Dark Souls? No Bloodborne cause that's cheating

>>169625064
I think her chime is good at Hexing, but I also think most chime Hexes cost souls, which fucks up your SM if you care about the event.

May as well buy some of the healing spells from her, it makes the early game easier and Homeward and Caressing Tears can save you some souls for not buying Homeward Bones and Poison Moss. You get her shit when you talk to her at 30 Fai, which is where you want to soft-cap Hexes anyways.

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>>169625002
Thanks, paid only €12 for it so I'm not really regretting the purchase cost-wise yet. I'm just worried that I've gotten all out of that game that I could.

Still, seems like it could be alright. Just need to figure out what sort of a build am I going to play now.

Anyone got the build roll image for DS2?

>>169625276
Ultras grant hyperarmor during its swings. The base hyperarmor is good and withstands most quick attacks that would interrupt you. It is worth it to increase poise though, as it improves the amount of hits/heavier hits you can withstand

>>169625662
I assume it would either be a rapier or a dagger class weapon

>>169625276
No, there's no poise in ds3 like there was in ds1. Poise = hyperarmor in this game which means that if you have poise and you're in the middle of an attack, you can't be knocked out of it. But the only weapons that get hyperarmor are heavy weapons like halberds, ultras, greatswords, maces, etc.

>>169624516
>easy mode
The question is not about it being easy, it's boring because it doesn't involve any of the nuanced aspwcts of the combat system, you just lock onto shit and let rip.

>>169624719

>hawkwood
>easy

If hawkwood didnt take high riposte damage he would be on par with DeS black phantoms. I had to give up on my no parry run and cestus parry him to death

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>>169625703
>>169625540
I guess it's a smarter choice to keep her alive. A 2k tax isn't much, even if I plan to use int hexes only

Now the problem is, I don't have a catalyst. If I remember correctly, there is one at forest of the fallen giants with some herbs, behind a false wall.

At least I already the next place of my adventurer as an apprentice dark mage. Going in with a knife will be something.

>>169625879

You could just walk up to Hawkwood and R1 him to death. Did they buff him?

>>169624990
Isnt he the only shield using enemy in the game who parries you though? Every other enemy has a dagger or katana out to do it, shield users normally just hide behind their shield until you guard break them or they hyper poise through attacks to hit you.

>>169624005
I mean im totally fine with some hot lich on chick action so

>>169625002

>playing a das game at 60 fps

Why would you even do that, the games are literally coded in multiple ways to time shit via rendering frames. Das 2 above 30fps makes me want to vomit and i have a 144hz monitor

>>169625797
Fair point but I guess different people have different opinions of when repeating the same thing gets boring
You're just rolling and attacking anyway

>>169624032

If you have ever played a romhack, you'll know what to expect.

>>169626092

rolls constantly with hyperarmor attacks. R1 spam is a bad idea unless your rocking fast as shit dex weapons.

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Which one /dsg/?

>>169625713
Oh, there's more to be gotten out of SotFS than the base game. Beyond the re-arranged enemy placements and aforementioned NPC plus random invaders, there are also new named invaders to spice things up. Those random invaders also let you buy their shit at Straid's when you beat enough of them, the armor is decent but the weapons are hollowing-based so they're not so good unless you walk around with Ring of Binding all the time (and maybe accumulate sin for additional hollowing, not sure if that works).

As for build, Faith is shit after all those nerfs, but Hexes will still tear through most enemies in the base game (assuming you've played the DLC before, you know what to expect there). Full quality is fun for power-stancing, though there aren't that many new weapons to warrant doing it again if you already tried it in base DaS2.

Personally I found Sorcery to be pretty fun, once you get MLGS and Repair, you can spam the beams at will and reload as necessary.

>>169626448

This comment is more accurate than i could have possibly imagined.

Does the dlc feel romhacky or just the base game?

Is Andre the only one who upgrades weapons to magic?

>>169626583
Ds3, the stones need a speed adjustment to work well within the game though.

>>169626663

The DLC is unchanged IIRC.

What's up with the pseudo invades/summons in DaS2? Give you a taste of PvP in case you don't have internet or something?

>>169626583
I've always preferred the DaS2 armor, you don't look like some kind of retarded reject monster and it's actually useful for combat. Plus, who can say no to gold armor?

I'm gonna play DS2 (SOTFS) for the first time
Is the Halberd still the undisputed king of PvE?

>>169626583

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU

>>169626976
For PvE? I'd say the winner of that title goes to the Red Iron Twinblade.

>>169626583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU
DaS2, although it's more a "lesser shit" situation.

>>169626976

Lucerne is best it has better guard break

>>169626932
There are pseudo invaders and summons in all the games.

>>169626976
Unless you're talking Mastodon Halberd, no. There's also the Red Iron Twinblade.

>>169627056
>>169627118
Oh yeah holy shit I saw a video of someone using a twinblade ages ago, completely forgot that was a weapon class in 2
That's way more fun than poking from infinite range, thanks for reminding me
>>169627087
You're not gonna trick me into using a downgraded Halberd m8

>>169626932
>>169627118

Well the ones in 2 take it a step beyond. Especially the DLC ones.
>goddamn Mauldron and that white cunt in Eleym Loyce that do their best to be as annoying as possible

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Best legs incoming

>>169627232

>guard brraking greatshield npcs in 2 hits
>downgrade

Lmao ok kid

>think of a new build and start new game

>died to tutorial gundyr
>twice
>died to an assassin hollow
>died to a fucking longsword hollow
>spend 1 hour grinding lothric knights for a sword
>then levelled str instead of dex

Some things just weren't meant to be.

>>169626583
How is this even a contest? DS2 obviously, and it's still half-assed.
The stupid fucking dragon fags in here have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they will mastrubate to sun-dried roadkill.

>>169626583
DaS1 dragon form, frankly, looks ridiculous.
DaS2 dragon form looks nice but it's not so much a transformation as it is a magic suit of armor.
DaS3 dragon form is a disgusting abomination, which is what a human transforming into a dragon should look like.

>>169627661
That's all on you though and you can fix your points with Rosaria later.

wikidot, fextralife, or wikia?

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Still no catalyst, but powerstanced broken swords are carrying me

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>>169627451
Best buff incoming

>>169627036
Never understood why does the ancient stone drake have such a small face/mouth.

>>169627780
>That's all on you though
I didn't say it wasn't.
I'll just start again tomorrow. Any more embarrassment will probably kill me.

>>169627661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

>>169627772
I think DS1 would be fine if they just reduced the neck size. The design looks solid.

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>>169627451

>>169626583
DS1 > DS3 > DS2 mechanics-wise

DS1 dragon form was the best. Powerful as fuck roar adding even more damage to hypermode builds. Dragon head which was hilarious to use in low-level invasions.

DS3 one can break most shields in 1 roar. This is enough to oversee how ugly it looks. Make a greatshield dragon turtle to offset shit defenses and just roar if someone tries to counter-turtle you.

DS2 dragon form? Really? It's just a fucking set of armor. Shitty roar, shitty dragon breath, both have zero usage and barely add damage to your attack. Aside from them it's just a light armor and not really a good one for robflynn setups.

>>169627323
It's funny how the AI in DaS3 took such a massive step backwards.

>Bradley of the Old Guard: calls you over and heals you if you're low, takes pressure off of you in fights
>Sirris of the Sunless Realms: heals and buffs randomly, keeps stabbing at Hodrick while at low health despite having been parried and riposted twice

>Jester Thomas: takes out a sword when you cast Profound Still
>Kreimhild: keeps trying to cast and scratching her head during Vow of Silence

>>169628337
>Jester Thomas: takes out a sword when you cast Profound Still
Does he? I have never seen the goddamn clown pulling a sword.

That said, if you're going to mention DaS3 invaders, you should probably mention Yellowfinger Heysel, whom in my last game simply decided she would NEVER leave the poison swamp and would just constantly ping me with darts from there. i had to ping her down with goddamn lightning urns to beat her.

Also Knight Slayer "Trust no one" Tsorig.

Why was DS1 so popular on 360?

>>169628776
It was not the game but the console.
The 360 had an awesome catalogue overall and titles like dark souls only added more jewelry to the crown.

>>169628629
There's a WebM of him pulling out a sword once he gets hit by Profound Still. Same for Creamfilled just standing there and doing nothing during Vow of Silence.

>Tsorig
That guy's a laugh. Not only can you make him fight himself, but you can chuck an Alluring Skull into the lava pool and make him burn himself to death.

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Let's try another day of trying to get fucking summoned on iron keep.

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>>169628629
"Like Yellowfinger, you can choose to believe that all Fingers share camaraderie." - Leonhard
>invade
>heysel already invaded
>she starts attacking me

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>>169628337
>ds2 faggots bring shit added by DLCs and SOTFS
>keep quiet about HORRENDOUS base game NPC ai that was straight input reading and cancelling their own attacks
Meanwhile Vilhelm is superb.

>tfw you can't save onionbro

fuck man...

>>169628337
I honestly thought Devotee Scarlett was a human player at first, for god and bad reasons.
>ran up to me and spammed welcome
>told me to burn the windmill
>slutwear
>seemed eager to get kissed by desert sorceresses

>>169626683
No that's Rickert.

>>169628067
Fextralife for fashion, wikidot for everything else. Wikia used to have details on moves and defenses of bosses

>>169624665

Yep

He one shots you in NG+ unless you have high Vigor

3 normal hits will do you in too

Plus he heals

Is anyone else not getting summoned or seeing signs anywhere for RtD? I've got the fucking ring on with the right God but there ain't shit,

>>169629326
>brings up something added in DLC when complaining about them praising a thing added in DLC

>>169624719

>harder than the Abyss Watchers

He's not that hard, really (just as the Abyss Watchers aren't), though it's often a long fight because he heals like several times.

>>169620649
Git gud, cheesemaster, that's how.

>>169629161
Did you have the finger emblem equipped?

>>169628293
>chubby Pontiff

Cute

>>169620414
>>169620220
>>169619987

Here's how you do a hexer build:

1. Start as a pyromancer.
2. Pick up a RAW ASS and Flynn's ring.
3. Don't kill the big tree.
4. Get to Lost Izalith, loot it.
5. Send Greirat out to plunder Irithyll, kill the big tree.
6. Go to Irithyll Dungeon.

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>>169629473
oh well

time to do it lads

>>169629473
>>169630202
The first time I tried to save Siegmeyer, I got hit with a KB+M bug (can't attack with the mouse buttons while dialog is on screen) and died

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>>169630202
this is comfy

now what

>>169630341
I think I fucking hit him like three times

>>169628317
>It's just a fucking set of armor.
Well no, look at the arms. Those are black scales.

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Can i get some help with dancer I'm sl 55 my password is "dancer" Would really appreciate it guys I'm on PS4 btw

>>169627661
>Levelling damage stats first
REEEE

You level vigor and endurance first, while using a raw/deep/fire enchant on a weapon with a good moveset. Then you start levelling damage after vigor is at least 30.

>>169630545
Just look up how to do it. Figuring it out isn't worth it.

>>169630182
Hexer builds absolutelly fucking suck.
You will be hitting 1 out of 4 Dark Edges and the dark pursuers are incredibly easy to dodge.

Lmao the only viable builds are the one that abuse the shitty pvp hitbox this game has.

>>169631147
>not picking up the claymore early
>not infusing it heavy
>not stacking fire pine resins

scrub

>>169630545
>>169630202
>SKSS

There are many niggas out there

but this one is mine

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>>169631147
What? No. What is wrong with you?

>SM 260K
Where do I farm sunlight medals?

Right now the bonfire is highlighted at Bastille, Wharf, Huntsmans.

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>>169628629
>Also Knight Slayer "Trust no one" Tsorig.
Lorefags will try to defend this

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How do I get extra copies of Dark Orb?

>>169629161
Is there any point to actually equipping the Rosaria Finger covenant? What does it actually do?

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>>169631048
Bumping with booty

>>169629473
He commits suicide after killing Yhorm anyways

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>>169631918
Heavens, that is one horribly fractured foot

>>169631918
>At level 10
>Summoning newbie phantoms in starter gear whose sign is outside of Vordt
>Take them into Dancer instead
>Homobone out when they all die
Who else devilish here?

Why do people say longswords are the weapons you need as a sorcerer?
What makes longswords so special?

>>169632116
>at level 60
>summon dancer phantoms
>take them to base NG vordt
>die to him on purpose

Step it up

>>169632202
Low stat requirements, light, doesn't rely on poise/high stamina, good when one handed, and good scaling with elemental infusions.

>>169620649
You're gonna love what they did to them in patches in 2

>>169632202
Low requirements with a good fast moveset

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>>169632116
>trying to grind medals on Vordt for faith run
>keep getting summoned by people attempting to do Dancer even though my sign is practically buried inside Vordt's intestines
>just give up and decide to learn how to kill Dancer at low level anyway so at least it isn't a complete waste of time

You cannot stop me, meme man.

>be UGSfag
>get to Earthen Peak

I FUCKING LOVE LOSING HALF MY HEALTH IF I FAIL TO PERFECTLY TIME MY SWINGS GOD DAMMIT

>>169629616
That's because they lifted a bunch of stuff straight out of the DaS1 strategy guide, which was top-notch. And because DaS1 was enough of a blockbuster hit that it attracted all of the right kinds of attention to the Wikia.

Is 48 too low for Irithyl I'm not seeing any summon signs

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So is faith completely worthless on a 120 build in DS3 that isn't a 60 pure faith or dragonslaver axe build?

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>>169630545
Awful

I'm not even mad, just impressed

I've got another friend who just started playing dark souls 1 after playing through 3

boy

was he fucking FUMING after bed of chaos

>>169633167
>trying to use anything bigger than a SS against Manikins

>>169633213
So? It still provided more useful info if you struggled with a boss, including gifs of the boss' moves

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wow this guys really hates me

>>169633374
The only viable miracles are lightning and darkmoon blade, regardless of the faith you have.

>just got to mirror knight
>1.6m SM
How am i doing?

How do the +5max weapons affect online play? is that the same as +10?

>>169633478
just bait his charge and parry him?
his parry window is gigantic.

>>169633671
>cmw downgrades

Why not use the real deal then?

>>169633445
>using a guide
And as I said, it's because the first game attracted all the right kinds of attention. People were happy to do GIFs of the boss moves for this blockbuster game, but they weren't able to keep up their enthusiasm for the next two.

>>169633478
You're supposed to run behind him and wail on him during that attack, you dingus.

>>169633814
I mean, if you want a faith build that's the only thing it's going to work for you.
If you want a int oriented spellsword THEN you may use cmw.

>>169633713
You're about 600k SM above optimal.

>>169633758
Each upgrade level acts as +2, +4, etc. on a normal +10 weapon.

>>169633797
That is what I was doing but he kept spamming that pursuers dark magic

>>169633896
Didn't know that. Just figured because it's impossible to dodge from distance and he always spawns near a cover, you were supposed to take cover during that.

>>169633337
That's about right if you progress naturally and don't grind. Maybe lower if you purchase frivolous cosplay items from the shrine.

Dunno why you aren't seeing signs; maybe connection issues.

How good are spears and halberds in 3?
I don't see them used a lot, but I would imagine it's because they aren't as aesthetic as swords.

Is it okay if I grab a murakumo on my sorcerer? I'll have to put in 28 str but I really like that sword.

>>169634135
I'm invading infinitely but yeah I'm not getting any signs. I think maybe my weapons aren't upgraded enough I'm only at +4

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This is why miscegenation should be illegal.

>>169634229

They're slow and their damage is low compared to other weapons.