/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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>>169491449
First for burning the forests to piss off elves.

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waiting for that invasion.

in for ded

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>>169491852

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>>169492009

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>>169492160
I thought I had that "14 things that will make you say ooooh" pic but I was wrong, so here's... my cat's ear in a box?

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>>169492818

>adventure for a while
>being a bully with my wild bunch of jerks, everybody fears me
>retire to try something else
>eventually miss my gobbo, time for the comeback
>everybody loves me now
Turns out that resting for a while makes you a lovely person.

Anyone else having trouble downloading the lazy newb pack? The link isn't working for me.

>>169493932
well I certainly didn't have any problems downloading vanilla

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>>169493851
Settling down and drinking a lot does wonderful things for a personality you say?

>>169492947
Eyyyy!

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redpill me on the lazy newb pack

for someone new to the game, is there a reason to go vanilla over the pack, aside from bragging rights of playing only vanilla like the other hardcore autists?

>>169492947
lmao

>Have five dwarf lever operator sole job si to pull a damn lever when need be.

>Suddenly major invasion

>put a pull lever order for the drawbridge

>Nothing happens

>invaders pour inn and my militia is down in the far reaches of the tunnels.

>Find all FIVE of my lever operators snoring in beds, ALL FIVE

>Suddenly one guy wake up and get the genius idea to pull the lever

>Bridge goes up blocking any escape path from my civilian¨s

>Massacre and carnage and when my militia finally arrives its all to late.

My fort went under because of laziness,

>>169495326
try pressure plates

>>169494575
nou

The military screen confuses me. I can't get my dorfs to wear their armor. I assign a squad "metal armor," and I have a bunch of copper armor lying around, but they never pick it up. What do?

>>169495760
>r: replace clothing

>>169495809
I've tried both replace and wear over clothing, thanks though

>>169496049
give me the details then. what is the exact type of metal clothing you have in stock

>>169495464

Might do that next time

>>169495326
Lever Operating is one thing every dwarf should have enabled.

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>>169494575
Fuck you, you fucking elitist piece of shit.
Not everyone has the time to learn to look at the matrix and make fucking sense of it you fucking neet loser virgin pieces of shit.
Fuck you!

>>169496115
>mail shirts
>breastplates
>greaves
>boots

All copper. (It's the only metal I have)

>>169496184

I don't want my mindless engraver getting any idea that there is more to the world than engraving stones

>>169496304
Do you have trouble downloading it anon?

i just need confirmation.

>>169496423

Wait you can have mail shirt under the breastplate?

how do you do that, cause the vanilla outfit do not allow that

>>169496431
And it will cost you another fortress.

Think about it.

>>169496512
Downloading what?
If you're the lazy noob pack anon then I urge you to just go ahead and download the latest release and use the quickstart guide on the wiki.
As for me, I've been playing for a little over 2 months now and I still don't use any add-ons whatsoever though I've been thinking about a tileset that changes the colors of the default to one that's a little brighter.

>>169496572
Yes you can, and yes it does.

>>169496423
make a new uniform, add both the shirt and breastplate under (A) for armor, and specify materials on both items with (M) for copper. if it doesnt work, its time to go the extra step and assign them the specific items then. they can wear shirts under breastplates, but they wont do it if you dont specify to replace clothing. however, youll have to assign weapons and all the other armor pieces individually as well.

on the military screen, press (e) to equip, (A) for armor, select specific item, and chose a copper mail shirt. repeat the process for the same dwarf but assign a breastplate this time.

if they still wont grab it, shits bugged and i cant really help

>>169496572
I'm not sure, that's just some of the armor I have in stock.

>>169495083
without LNP you get to play the newest version and don't have to wait until the modders update (they still haven't updated to the new version even though it's been a few months)
you also don't get accustomed to using the rapist as a crutch, and arguably can get more immersed in the game. DFhack and the rapist are the only really useful things in that package honestly, tilesets you can just add manually, especially since they'll always be compatible with the newest version of the game

>>169497007
thanks senpai

>>169494918
It really does, but not I don't know what to do.I'm tempted to go back to my hold ways, but then I'd feel like I'm ruining something.
The adventurer's life can be hard.

>>169496304
you know you can just add a graphics set manually, right?

>>169497134
yeah but, playing on 0.43.03 instead of .05 isnt that big a deal for me. i also dont think i would be playing the game if there wasnt for the rapist. the labor menu in the game itself would not increase my immersion by any means, it would just put me off.

i believe it really boils down to preference and accessibility. and i like accessibility.

>>169497134
>therapist is just a crutch

I can not believe there are people who legit think like that. Keep up that sense of superiority.

>>169497483
>>169497134
Really all 43.05 has that 43.03 doesn't is 64bit support. So its just 43.03 but with more fps.

>>169497483
If that's your favourite way of playing, that's cool. But the whole delay with the 64bit release kind of put me off mods. The newest patch isn't that big of a deal, but the next patch will be pretty huge, and I really wouldn't want to wait months just so I can play the newest version of the game with rapist.

>>169498225
How much has 64 bit helped in terms of FPS?

>>169498226
Surely it wont take nearly as long when the next update hits. The reason they have taken so long to update now is because of the switch to 64 bit right?

>>169498186
never said it's JUST a crutch, but it's obvious that if you learn to play the game with the rapist you might never be able to play without it. what if the rapist's creator is ever no longer able to keep it up to date? this is quite probable considering how long the game's development will take
in my opinion it's in a newbies best interest to first learn to play without rapist and then try it out if you feel the need for it

>>169498586
>what if the rapist's creator is ever no longer able to keep it up to date?
Someone else will pick up the slack. Pretty sure this has already happened once before.

>>169498186
>I can not believe there are people who legit think like that. Keep up that sense of superiority.
Have fun playing obsolete versions 60% of the time.

>>169498753
It normally doesn't take this long. Couple weeks at most usually.

>>169498586
This >>169498670

So many people use that shit, that it will never die as long as the game is played

>>169498753
What are you talking about? Aside from this whole 64 bit update, shit like therapist updates to the latest version pretty quickly.

>>169498670
>Someone else will pick up the slack. Pretty sure this has already happened once before.
>>169498971
>So many people use that shit, that it will never die as long as the game is played

Good, then I don't want to hear any "rapist when" from you. If you have such great confidence in therapist, then you should be able to wait like good boys forn the release, while the grown ups have fun playing normally.

Does anyone have any worlds that they like to share? My biggest problem in getting back in to this game is that I get stuck in Perfectworld for like a week trying to make something that is insanely dangerous but actually generates.

Does anyone have a world along those lines? I need tons of things to fight, otherwise I just get bored and over-produce craft goods until FPSdeath.

>>169497483
I understand what you're saying but .05 fixed some annoying bugs, you should still use it, if you want a therapist subsitute for now I'd recommend the labor manage in dfhack

>>169499641
dfhack isn't updated either.

>>169500432
>he doesn't know

>>169496184
that's pretty damn risky though. what if the miner who's in the shaft down below gets the job? just as bad as the lazy operators.

Toady should travel to Las Vegas and start gambling

then he could use his earnings to hire an entire football team of Indians to work on DF

>>169500432
>Beta version available
>https://github.com/DFHack/dfhack/releases
Now stop your whining.

>you have struck native gold

And so the golden age begins anew, soon the fortress will be a glittering eyesore

>>169499271
>wait like good boys while the grown ups....

My point exactly. Gotta keep that superiority complex going strong by forcing yourself into tedium.

>>169502115
>speaks in a condescending way about anyone who chooses vanilla
>still has the nerve to accuse others of harbouring a superiority complex

Being unable to play without therapist brings out one of the worst characteristics a DF player could have: not wanting to learn. Every player should be capable to play without it.

And saying it as someone who often uses therapist when it's available, they're some of the worst posters in this general.

>>169503451

Ive been using Therapist for ten years and i really don't miss or need it at all

sure it makes some aspect easier but its all fun and game

I absolutely refuse to play with the vanilla labor manager, it's either therapist or dfhack.

>>169504565
>I absolutely refuse to play with the vanilla labor manager, it's either therapist or dfhack.
Good for you.

>>169502846
>speaks in a condescending way about anyone who chooses to play with therapist
>gets butt hurt when called out on his bull shit.

>>169503451
Not even arguing against that. You should be able to play without therapist, so you can at least play in the little downtime between therapists updates. But lets not act like somehow people who use therapist are somehow worse posters than the people who act superior because they DONT use therapist.

>>169504698
>But lets not act like somehow people who use therapist are somehow worse posters than the people who act superior because they DONT use therapist.
No one does that. The shitflinging always starts when someone says that he absolutely refuses to play the game without Therapist.

What is a good depth to build a fort inn?

>>169505505
to build you fort in, I usually do as soon as dirt ends

to build an inn, near the main/side entrance for easy access, but also in rock

>>169505505
deep into ur mom xDDD

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>>169506146

>that wizard section under the development tab
WHEN

>>169506120

Yeahh Inns........never dared to open one yet in scared of FPS death

>>169506273
As soon as you wish hard enough anon :)

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>>169506273
>WHEN

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>>169506792
a few years sorry lol :(

>>169506296
You can limit the amount of visitors in the init settings.

>>169506905
I played as a hyena man once in adventure mode but after I bit a mason in the fortress where I started a brewer strangled me to death

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>>169508212
Currently playing as a jumping spider woman right now, having extra arms is rad as fuck, but I'm pretty bloody fragile, even with decent defences.

>>169508436
Yeah, as soon as you lose an arm the spider man is toast.

rest in peace, TJD. I've never forgotten you...

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>>169508802
Yeah, considering my first three attempts ended pretty horribly.

Got eviscerated by boogeymen the first time, got gangraped by goblins the second, and got kicked in the head by a impala or something like that.

Spoodermen have it rough.

>>169499302
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>>169508436
They're so cute though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgZe4bpR8A

>>169509053
All the insect men are kinda glass cannons. They have some sick racial bonuses such as extra arms and sometimes stuff like nostun or nopain, but all vertebrates are much squishier than us meat-wielding, skeleton swaglords.

>>169509053
Uh, spidermen have [NOFEAR] and get ignored by bogeymen, did you pick a fight you didn't have to?

>>169509053
Boogeymen are just bullshit, sure, you can become strong enough to defeat them, but when you're starting out you won't be able to, you need companions or else you will die.

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>>169509296
No, from what I remember, I definitely died to a boogeyman horde as a spiderman.

>>169509274
That's understandable.
Stuff like that makes playing a sentient wilderness creature more interesting though.

>>169496753
Custom colours aren't a tileset. Theres a page on the wiki with a good selection of them.

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I know gorlaks can_learn, but this is something else.


>>169503451

I don't even run large forts anymore, not having therapist hardly matters.

>>169509574
>spiderman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxk_A4Y-9hI

>>169509802
neat

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>>169509712
Truly, gorlaks are the ultimate master race.

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>>169509574
Then it was modded or something or you're remembering it incorrectly, but jumping spider men and brown recluse spider men have [NOFEAR] and bogeymen ignore them.

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>>169511825
Huh.
I dunno, it's been a while and it happened so fast, so I suppose I might've gotten it wrong.

But hey, never knew that spider people have [NOFEAR] before. You learn something new everyday.

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>>169510027
blatant lie

>>169512295
[NOFEAR] makes the bogeys friendly, but it doesn't prevent them from appearing at night.

Did you by any chance attack that bogeyman first? That would have made it hostile toward you either way.

>>169513124
No, I was just wandering until I got the message:

"You hear a loud cackling"

...I don't remember the exact message, but after that, I got bum-rushed by boogeymen.

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>>169513124
Yeah, having the reflex of smacking a bogey wouldn't help here.

>>169513357
IIRC, the notion that bogeys would be 1000 big is due to a misinterpretation of the data in gm-editor. Sizes as seen in gm-editor are not the same as the sizes in the raws. They are measured in different units. In raw sizes, most bogeys would be around 10000-30000 big.

When will we get mounted combat?

i cant wait to saddle up all those cats and ride em into the nearest pike wall

>>169514098
I don't think there are sentient creatures small enough to use cats as mounts

>>169514098
I want to ride elk birds.

What other cave creatures might dwarfs find themselves riding?

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>>169515151

>>169514574
Kitten-drawn chariots.

>>169515352
I only imagine a horde of like 60 kittens pulling a chariot with a dorf wielding a long halberd in the back sending goblin heads sailing in arcs

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>>169515287

>>169516563
>sock puppet

no

>>169517182
>dick sucket

no

>>169515151
Elk birds are probably too small for dwarves to ride, being less than twice the size of an adult dwarf. Dwarven parents probably let their children ride the family elk bird for fun, but they soon grow too big and have to move on to dralthas, which in hindsight are probably the most sensible thing for dwarves to ride (not evil, not carnivorous, etc).

What feature are you most looking forward to being added?

wee woo wee woo LNP updated!!!

time to play again!

>>169518950
rock beds

>>169518950
Multi threading support. I have no fucking idea why he hasnt implemented this yet. Would literally save the game from the constant FPS death

>>169518950
>romance and families
>adventure mode farming
>magical items

I don't think it's a planned feature, but custom raw-defined sites would make modding much more enjoyable.

>>169519090
Just mod them in you dip.

>>169518950
NPCs interacting with the sites you build in adventure mode.

If I can attract caravans or something I'm going to bust a nut.

>>169519223
>Just mod them in you dip.

I don't cheat.

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>>169519057
FUCK YOU for giving me false expectations!

>>169519307
>modding == cheating
Worst meme in /dfg/.

>>169519470
Sorry I hurt your feelings, cheater.

>>169519057
Oh cool

Doesn't TWBT still make it crash a lot though?

>>169519819
It does. Save before you build anything.

>>169519565
No such thing as cheating in a singleplayer game.

>>169520084
Ahe yes I love "playing" FPS games by turning on god and noclip. There is certainly cheating i singleplayer games.
Modding isn't cheating though. Other guy is a loser.

>>169520084
Sounds like cheater talk to me. If it's "modding" and not cheating, why are you so defensive?

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>>169519090
did anyone try sending Toady a list of small changes that would require very little work but make the game more immersive and fun?
like mead for example. why is it two times cheaper than all other alcohol when it requires much more work? historically mead was generally a luxury drink, since it requires a lot of effort to make, it's quite sweet and tasty and can have really high alcohol content.
this would be a very simple fix, just increase the price of mead to that of sunshine or whip wine. it probably still won't make beekeeping very useful, but it at least gives some incentive to actually bother with it.
make mead great again toady

>>169519470
>>169520084

>/dfg/ still doesn't realize that no one actually believes modding is cheating and they've been falling for the same fucking shitpost bait for months.

Pathetic desu. I thought this was supposed to be the smart general.

>>169521751
It is smart, but in a savant kinda way.

>>169519173
I have actually always wondered this. How much would multi threading help? Like would it really stop FPS death? Why doesnt he just implment it

>>169521751
I think it's some newfag wave from bay or somewhere else, this is pretty recent. They fall for every shitpost possible, even stuff that's been posted for years.

>>169522803
Well they need to LURK MOAR

>>169521906

Imagine this

The current DF is a old Honda, it works and do what its suppose to do but struggle and have some mileage

Then you suddenly win the lotto and get this fresh new sport car, its faster and cooler but when it crash its probably going to kill you
That is multithreading.

>>169522803
Maybe the recent tourney attracted some?

Or maybe it's just shitposting due to frustration of no update.

>>169522931
was meant for >>169522154

>>169522916
Well if they're completely new they actually should

>>169522931
That's one of the worst analogies I've ever read

The only way to make it worse would be to transform it into a subway one

>>169522996
I started playing again recently and decided to check out the general. The Tourney certainly drew me in though.

>>169522931
>when it crash its probably going to kill you
what do you mean by this? will crashes be more frequent with multithreading, or somehow more dangerous?

>>169518815
Goblins can ride them, no reason dwarves couldn't.

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>search for /dfg/
>rimworld thread appears

>>169524839
multi-threading introduces a type of bug that single threaded programs don't have to worry about: race conditions. basically it's what happens if one cpu gets what it's supposed to do done early and leads to all sorts of confusion.
then consider what happens when DF is generating a world. your one cpu core jumps to 100% use. id DF is using all your threads and an error occurs during a lot of processing, triggering a loop, you might have your pc lag so hard you can't even force close the application

>>169525052
Here's why:

>What is Rimworld?
>An early access single player survival simulation game like Dwarf Fortress /dfg/

They put that in their OP. That's a pretty weird place to put the name of our general, isn't it?

It's obviously a stunt to get noticed more.

has anyone ever been at war with another dorf civ?
how'd it go?

>>169525593
that's pretty low

>>169525664
I doubt it can happen in vanilla, since they have static ethics. Unless you randomise their ethics like with humans, all dwarven civs will agree about everything, meaning no war.

>>169518950
Optimization :^)

>>169525810
Can't ethics shift with time? like if a book with a strong argument against law ends up in the foremost library of a civ can't it lead to that civ having less respect for the law overall?

>>169526027
I don't think books can have a civ-wide effect. I'm not sure, but i think it only affects the individuals who read the books in-game.

>>169525810
some level of randomisation in non-human civ ethics would be nice. it just seems inconsistent that humans are completely random and everyone else is completely fixed

>>169526176
yeah, you're right. it is planned though. I must've remembered reading it here:

>07/25/2015 The work on adventurer composition led into finalizing the new written content generally and making sure I had handled all of the promises I'd made to various people over the last few months. Philosophical study opens up different avenues of discussion that allow people to pass their values to both individual readers and to a lesser extent through the underlying civilization when there's a library with a copy. This doesn't impact specific ethics yet, so you won't have to worry that an elf-written book will make all your dwarves start eating dead bodies, but such a thing is now threatened for a later date by these changes. Poetry written in certain poetic forms can currently spread values before philosophers come up with specific language that can be used in prose, though not all civilizations will have such traditions.

>Generally, there's more information in all of the written content now, and there are more sorts. For instance, after the difficult concept of an alternate history is tackled by historians, they can write books pivoting around the negation of particular events. Mostly it hasn't been earth-shaking... dwarves wondering what life would be like if an antelope man hadn't attacked their town or if a competition had turned out a different way. One historian wrote a book considering how things would have been if the author had remained an architect instead of becoming a historian a decade before. It would be possible to weight the event selected with an importance check, but there are complications as usual. There are also cultural histories, genealogies, atlases, chronicles, the various biographies I mentioned before, etc., which have their proper topics and sometimes some historical events selected, and they occasionally push a value agenda when the author and form is capable of it.

>>169526621
kinda plays into the human/judeo-christian idea of only humans having free will
it would be interesting if the myth generator gave a reason as to why the human civs were so different from each other while other civs were consistent

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why don't ELV grow wagons?

>>169525443
Would it really cause that big of an issue? I mean why wouldnt this sort of stuff happen in other games then? I would imagine overall multi threading would be a huge boon to the game

What's everyones honest opinon on rimworld? I feel like alot of people in this general seem to dislike it. And I cant understand why...

>>169529642
1: toady is a pleb programmer, as evidenced by the few that have seen the code and lived
2: he has never coded multi-threaded code
3: the game would need large portions rewritten to run parallel, this could cause errors

there's BOOKS written on proper multi-threading, it's not simple

>>169529836
maybe because it's constantly being shilled here, hm?

>>169529836
It may sound stupid in /dfg/ but I can't stand its UI.
Constantly moving the mouse slows things down too much.
Also having to reroll constantly until you get an acceptable starting party is a huge flaw.
I understand the concept behind that, but still dislike it.

>>169529836
>its 2d
>The world is far less in-depth than Dwarf Fortress.
>No adventure mode
>AI is actually less sane.
>30 fucking dollars for an early access game.
>People from /rwg/ used to shittalk DF because brand loyalty required them to justify their purchase.

>>169528518
>wasting sacred trees on convenience when you can just stack everything on top of donkeys

I still find it strange that humans and goblins don't use steel, there isn't an in-universe explanation as far as I know.

>>169532290
they're dumb

>>169530140
I dont see it really shilled much here


>>169530739
I can get what you are saying, but its UI really is alot better than DFs.

>>169531121
>2d

You mean like no z levels right? I would be willing to bet that its gonna gain z levels at some point

>less in depth world

I agree. This is actually my main issue with the game. I wish the world itself was more fleshed out

>less sane AI

I dont know seemed pretty much on par with DF here

>30 dollars

Again I agree. But at least it gets updated seemimgly more frequently than DF. And it shows that there is a market for games like DF

>/rwg/ shilling/shit talking DF

I can understand this. Anyone from /rwg/ shit talking DF is kinda dumb.

Overall I played the game and enjoyed it. I will admit while I played it I found myself wishing I was just playing DF instead, but it seemed like there is some real potential there.

>>169532290
Its because only craft dwarfs know the secret to making steel weaponry

>>169534984
Great. If you want to talk about it >>>/rwg/ is that way.

>>169534984
>its UI really is alot better than DFs
Fuck no.
Having to hover above every button to know what the icon means is a gigantic downgrade from having it written on the screen in clear letters.

>>169520573
fix underwater nest boxes

>>169520573
He should scale leather returns from butchery based on creature size, it's absurd that an elephant produces the same amount of hide as a sheep. How hard could it be?

>>169513814
Was still a cute image.

>>169529836
My opinon doesn't exist, my opinion doesn't matter, but the fact is that general is somewhere else, be free and go find it.

>>169529836
Too simple and boring for my tastes. It's kind of alright for an afternoon but it just doesn't have the depth (and not just the Z levels)

Do you guys think we'll be able to have working trade depots for our adventurer sites in the next DF release?

>>169540551
No.
The Toad won't do anything about that until the economy update, if at all.

>>169541727
>implying toady will ever make a economy update
He is so useless he will probably just scrap DF and make another game just like he did with armok 1.

>>169541963
What would Slaves to Armok: God of Blood 3 look like?

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>haven't played in a long time
>embark, only has steel anvils
>welp, gotta make up for those 200 points
>sort my shit out, arrive at our new home (tomb)
>I didn't bring an axe
Thankfully I found some rich iron deposits and remembered that I can dismantle the wagon for some logs to make charcoal out of.
This fort is off to a good start.

>>169542082
Armok 1 was 3D
armok 2 was 2D because it was faster to dev for
Armok 3 will be 1D because it's faster to develop for
Armok 4 will be 0D because it's faster to develop for
Armok 5 will be -1D, a new theoretical mathematical idea developed by toady for the express purpose of speeding development even faster

If I want to make an egg-laying creature do live births instead, is it as simple as removing their egg definitions in their creature entry? If I want to make a genderless creature give births, is it as simple as adding a male and female caste?

>>169529836
Honestly currently it is more shallow than DF. But desu in the end it will most likely be much better than DF. The developer (tynan or whatever) is alot better than toady.

>>169542717
Was just looking at various trailer updates I'd missed and now I'm like "just see if you can make a facehugger caste" for some reason.

>>169542480
I think you are thinking of some other toad, because ours is a shithead that doesn't care for speed, specially in development.

>>169545748
's true tho

>>169544647
No adventure mode no buy

>>169544647
Either way, take that shit to whatever game you're talking about.

>>169540084
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122003.0
This mod does that exactly.

>>169549036
C-cheater

>>169549036
>cheating

WEW

>>169549328
Bitches exeunt.

>>169549328
>>169549362
this is a joke that can only go bad

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>>169551431

Why would a human town be filled with only warriors? I can't seem to find any regular professions among this town and it's kind of weirding me out.

>>169552696
The place is defunct (IE not owned by a civ) and you just wandered into a fuggin hueg bandit nest. I recommending joining up with them and becoming a barbarian raider with your new buddies.

>>169552981
Oh shit. Well I went into the keep and murdered a dude because my liege wanted me to, and now everyone hates me so that's kind of out of the question. Maybe I'll just muderhobo everyone.

Its been a while since I last played, about 2 years.
Did Toady put something interesting and meaningful in the game yet? Or he still doing boring shit like world gen/adv mode/taverns/etc?

>>169553350
yes

>>169553350
>implying that shit isn't interesting

>>169495326
>not isolating them in a legendary control room providing beds, food and booze

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>>169553350

>>169554246
Thanks, seems like there were fucking nothing last year

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>>169555189
It's missing the 64 bit version.

>>169555402
Is the 64bit version a significant performance improvement? If it was multithreaded at least...

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>>169555402
What is this gif meant to portray?

can I make a dwarf pregnant with dwarf hack?

>>169555826
Presumably worldgen differences on identical seed/settings.

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>make a custom orc race that are basically bigger, slower humans with a moderate boost in strength
>embark with maces because I'm in a terrifying area
>every time they hit something it goes flying 20+ tiles

this is some sauron level bullshit

Does creature size effect force of impacts?

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>>169555605
World-gen slows down less, so it reaches a higher year in the same time despite having higher populations being tracked.

>>169555826
There's also a bit of text info about it that I don't have handy, but basically I set two worlds with the same seed/settings/etc running for 3 minutes, 32 bit reached year 184 or so, 64 bit reached year 186 with like 3000 higher population, and I ran each version to 300 years, it took about a minute and a half less for 64 bit with something like 3000 or more additional population.

>>169557613
Significantly.

Speaking of modding, someone in the bay12 mod threads suggested something that I am shocked I never thought of: necromancer interaction where the zombies can raise zombies.

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>>169558267

>Significantly.

Wew. That explains a lot.

is child care a meme or does it actually, reliably work?

I've read the 15 first pages on bay12 and it looks messy

>>169558693
Started with an amusing observation: there's nothing useful to do with children, but if they spend time locked in a room with dogs they at least develop combat skills before adulthood.

Things kinda went downhill rapidly after that.

Don't forget the newer thread by Staalo, besides the good info he gathers, there's also some utterly fucking hilarious shit in there.

>it seems my past atrocities have come back to haunt me
>while trying to horrify children I added [CAN_LEARN] and [CAN_SPEAK] to dogs
>I figured dropping them would make more of an... impact
>then the merchants arrived with a wagon full of dog surgeons and dog masons
>...
>I'm still finding dog bone doctor teeth in strange places

>>169558267
>necromancer interaction where the zombies can raise zombies
Shouldn't be too hard to do since you can apply a syndrome via an interaction and an interaction via a syndrome.

>>169559513
Yup, just never really thought to do THAT particular horrible thing, zombies making zombies making zombies endlessly.

>>169558693
You can get some basic combat skills and stat gains on dwarven children without much undue effort.
It's still a meme, because there's no point and the skills are more easily raised after adulthood, but it's not exclusively in the realm of the forum fedora tipping memespouters.

>>169560126
Could that potentially lead to the world being overrun with zombies in worldgen?

>>169555402
When was the 64 bit version released exactly?

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>cbf updating the mods I had.
>Went with modest wanderer.
>Taffer removed the leather tan change.
Oh well going to try it out, though I'll end up going back to Grimlocke's because it was awesome.

>>169560436
Just the stuff living in the area if it has zombies, no civs settle there either.

>>169561931
It had some prerelease testing so have a look on one of the forums maybe announcements.

>>169561931
Pretty sure he tested it on 43.04 or it was 43.05 over a span of a few weeks to sort out the issues.

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>>169561931
>07/05/2016 Here are the first official 64-bit releases! This would not be possible without help from our community -- you can view the exciting and sometimes late-night discussion over in the 0.43.04 release thread if you want to see how the cake was baked. This release should also make worlds generated with the same seed more consistent, and it has a few other minor fixes we managed to sneak in.

>>169560436
I think it's more that once the map is loaded in adventurer mode it'll start a zombie apocalypse.

Undercity bro, Japa said he hadn't thought about trying to have hidden items actually be hidden but it should be easy to do.

>>169566825
This artist has some good potential but his leg to torso ration is positively troglodytic .

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>>169567160
She(he)'s hunched over, silly. His pants are super baggy and he's wearing a leather tunic (which I tend to imagine extending some ways down the thigh when standing upright - so what you're seeing is from just above the knee down to the foot) underneath those 3 cloaks.

Also, thanks.

>>169567750
Annie May's sketch is more what I was thinking of when I typed that. Torso is just incredibly long.

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>>169567807
Yeah that's definitely true. I noticed it a little too late, her ribcage is just too long.

Chalk it up to elf proportions I guess?

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>>169567901
>elf proportions
taek that back

>>169566825
best girl (boy)

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>>169568026
Yuo !
Tel
L me!
Is elv
of ur
likenings ?

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What is his end game?

>>169569236
Die having accomplished something.

>>169569236
Hopefully grow his beard back.

>>169570068
maybe he went bald in the beard too

>>169570775
HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SUCH A TERRIBLE THING... you're no better than... an elf!

>>169570809
Actually, I apologize, I spoke too harshly.

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>>169570775
I honestly think he just realised that he looks more mature without it.

With the beard in >>169569236
he looks like a balding neckbeard.

In pic related, having done away with the beard, he just looks like an ordinary middle aged man.

>>169571287
I thought girls didn't play df

>>169571513
I'm metrosexual, okay?

Although I'm probably gonna have to change style now that my hairline's begun to recede. Growing up sucks.

>>169569236
DF is actually a front for a much more insidious operation. While we thought we were mining gold nuggets we were really mining bitcoins and other virtual currencies. Bay12 is a shell for an international holdings company in the Caymans where Toady's ill-gotten gains are laundered. Right before the myths and magic update he'll disappear to his palatial estate in Aruba where he'll be attended day and night by chocolate island wenches, never to be heard from again.
You didn't really think it was pathfinding kittens and piles of boulders tanking your fps, did you?

>>169571748
Holy fuck...

I need to call my dad and tell him right away!

>>169567901
it does look a bit hobbitic. nice work otherwise though

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>>169567901
got you covered senpai

>>169571573
>metrosexual
I thought girls didn't play df

He looked like someone you could call Urist, now he's a Cog or Sazir at best.

>americans literally have a bird called "bullshit"

lmao

>>169572596
ty pham

>>169572759
did you mean bushtit?

or is this some meme I'm unaware of?

>>169572851
>bushtit
lmao that's even worse

>>169572851
Pretty sure they're lysdexic or got autocorrectosis vulgaria infecting their brain.

>>169572851
>bushtit
>it's actually real

lmao

>>169572851
>>169573036
>>169573089
>bushtit
sounds like a condition that gives women hairy breasts

>>169573301
You know what's even crazier? There's a bird with blue feet called a boobie!

>ITT: Neckbeards find out about one of the most well known bird families (tits) for the first time
Time to actually get off your computers and take a walk in the woods.

>>169573682

>Thinks we can automatically discern the names of birds by (l)ooking at them when we're out in the forest.

Which of us needs to go outside more again?

>>169573682
Plus it's not even like it's just a US thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegithalidae#Classification

>White-cheeked bushtit
>White-throated bushtit
>Long-tailed tit

Plus the various Passerines.

>Titmice
>Cock-of-the-rock
>Penduline tits
>Swallows
>Oxpeckers

>>169573958
Who fucking named these birds?

>>169573989
the english, obviously

>>169573989
The sort of repressive and reclusive nerds who would spend weeks and months in the middle of nowhere trying to get a good look at the underfeathers of a finch to determine if it was a new species or not... so basically, autists, but in many cases they were victorian era autists, so super repressed?

>>169573989
charles darwin

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One of my miner, Mistêm Koganatöl, died while carving out a hall for my magma smelters and forges, so I decided to make him this memorial hall.
The floor is made of copper, the wall, iron, there is two statues made of gold and the door is also made out of gold.

This is probably ordinary for you people, but I'm a beginner and this is the first time it happened to me, so I wanted to make something a little special for him, since his work is about to sky rocket my metal industry.

>>169574246
did the magma spill on him

>>169574320
No.
He slipped.

>>169574246
that looks really quite nice. Give us a pic of the forges that he helped build.

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>>169574767
The forges (upper row) and smelters (lower row) are located just one layer under Mistêm's memorial hall, I made it so for the reason that smiths would pass by his hall, in a way to remember his "sacrifice" I'm giving him way too much credit.
Two layers upward from the forges are just a bunch of stockpiles for ores and bars.

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>>169574932
Also, unrelated but earlier this happened, engraver having fun in the mayor's office.
Odd title, the engravement is nothing but a depiction of the founding of my fortress.

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>>169575086
It's about the untouched earth being totally ready for your miners' hard steel.

Obviously.

>>169574246
Hey it's always nice having newbies show up with screenshots and stories. I like the tileset too, though it makes me dizzy when I use it myself for some reason, still has a neat aesthetic.

Is there a way to get more flat mountain sides besides simply turning erosion off?

Also, on that. How rare are rivers running through/next to mountain ranges? Am I searching for the Holy Grail?

>>169576920
>Also, on that. How rare are rivers running through/next to mountain ranges? Am I searching for the Holy Grail?
I've found quite a few on default gens, it seems you need to git gud

Do you guys think the game would be better if more terrain could be fast traveled through, but you can only do it with a high enough skill in something? Like uh

>Fast travel through mountains with high climbing
>Ford rivers with high swimming
>Fast travel through caves with high observation (Because you'd need a good sense of direction and knowledge of the terrain to guess where to go.)

>>169577598
Maybe, but it should take a lot longer than normal travel.

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>>169577598
Be better if you could like, use a book or something and it taught you how to do what this script does: http://pastebin.com/YzV7xq8L

>>169573958
>Cock-of-the-rock
Ok. You have to admit that one is funny.

>>169577805
What did you do?

>>169573790
>Doesn't have a bird identification field guide
It's you anon. You need to go outside.

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>>169577805
>her skin is constantly drooling precum

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>>169577805
What's going on in this fort?

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>>169577805
"no"

>>169577805
>constantly drooling precum

This is Dwarf Fort, not CoC.

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>>169525052
Those fuckers need to go.

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What was their problem?

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>>169532290
It's because they have no trust.

>>169571287
Why is Toady making a "let's not turn this rape into a murder" face?

>>169578564
Who cares dude. It literally does not affect us in any way.

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>>169578619
Conan gives me such a loreboner.
>Have almost all the Marvel serials and the old Howard serials
feels fucking good man

>>169578927
Yeah, they're like north korea, laughable and not worth the effort to correct.

>>169579318
I mean, north korea does have nukes, /rwg/ is nowhere near that threat level

>>169579479
they can ruin my day by reminding me of their existance every time I put in "dfg" in the catalogue search

>>169579778
boo hoo

>>169579909
boohoo indeed. it's not argument for me not to complain when people willfully annoy me.

>>169580000
they're probably not doing it to annoy us, just to draw some attention to their ded game and general

>>169580000
you got some nice digits there, so I'll refrain from calling you a faggot autist for now.

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>>169577805
I don't even know where to start with the wat

>baby turns one year old
>gets pickup equipment job
>decide to follow
>picks up a -nautilus shell mask-
>naked otherwise
>goes to clean self
>washes off a coating of white millet beer
>plays make believe
ok

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>>169580446
That kid's seen some shit.

>>169577805
degenerateanon put your trip back on

>>169574932
What tileset is this? It looks nice

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>>169581302
Wanderlust.

mayb dawr fortress is gay, maybe it good

i play later and decide

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>tfw you learn that Tarn is the YOUNGER brother

>>169582382
I always assumed he was older, maybe because of the beard

>>169582693
I mostly did it because of Tarn's dominant role in DF's development.

Still, it's pretty cool of an older brother to help his younger bro out like he does.

>>169582942
S'what big brothers do, man.

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WHY CAN'T YOU DESIGNATE ALL TREES OF A CERTAIN VARIETY TO BE HARVESTED!?

>>169584164
Im just waiting for the day that I can manually plant trees.

>embark on a mountain and bring starting saplings for wood
i can dig it

>>169584313
I wonder how hard would it be to create overworld plants that would work as harvestable trees

>>169584508
>ethical grown wood

>>169584508
Maybe one day if our civilisation's ethics allow it, we can bring some elf slaves along to sing trees into existence only for them to be harvested once grown.

Ticks all the boxes for efficient, inexpensive, and the elves hate it!

>>169584989
ethical wood is patented for the elves, tho.

if dorfs did it it would be cultural appropriation.

>>169585262
Would it make the elves mad?

When will we get roving dwarven outlaws riding mean hogs and wearing leather vest with spiky helmets

>>169585506
Actual hogs: doable right now
Motorcycles: maybe if you're ok with renaming a minecart type item?

>>169585506
That should be a drew sketch

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BUILDING PHASES FOR FORT MODE WHEN!?

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>>169586501
maybe when i stop fukin ur mom

>>169586501
What kind of phase are you going to build?

How crazy can you get with modding?

Can I make a dwarf cannon that uses children as ammo or is the technology not there yet?

>>169587218
You can get pretty crazy but I don't know if you can get THAT crazy.

There's fun to be had though, with or without kid cannons.

>>169587218
you could just load a minecart shotgun with kids, you know...

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>>169587878
Oh good someone got to that while I was busy.

>>169586802
:^)

>>169587878
>Not using minecart shotgun to paratroop Dorf commandos during a siege

>>169590228

>Booom Crashh, RWHaaaaaaa

Thats all it takes for dorfs to spoil your well planned siege that you spent months to plan.

don't be fool, use Goblinson insurance to secure yourself from unforeseen dorf shenanigans

>>169590228
children are way more disposable than trained warriors though, they're basically useless

Just got a giant blob composed of water invading my lower levels its FG

should i be afraid or should i send Dorfus with the pike to poke a hole inn it?

never dealt with blobs before

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>>169591654
>should i send Dorfus with the pike to poke a hole inn it?
Y-yamete anon-kun!

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Rate my totally dwarfy island fishing village where the uniform consists of pig leather shirts, skirts, and nautilus shell masks.
Local clay meant a nice brick/oak longhouse too.

>>169591986

>building on the surface

>Buildings looks like some incan blood temples

I start to understand why you built on a island, hope Indana Elfson burn your city to the ground heathen

>>169592298
They're feral dwarves who roam the swamps biting and wrestling giant ticks all day anon, they'd 'ave you.

>>169591986
I like the buildings, but I don't think the longhouse mixes well with the pyramids

>>169591986
Niceeee.

Its a shame that aboveground forts are soo much more difficult than underground, i would build them more often.

>>169592545

Wont be long before they start worshiping the great ticks sacrificing beardless women to the great tick for blood rain

just wait to the magic gets implemented mark my word

>>169593156
Yeah, I didn't intend for them to look so much like pyramids, they're just log huts. Should have had the ramps start at the edge, maybe.

>>169593645
I just visited as a cassowary woman string instrument player and they seem to be worshipping merchants. Place is overrun.

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>>169591986

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>>169593862
Meanie!

>>169591986
Armok vision is such a blessing. Nice fort.

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Can't stump the trump

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>>169591986
Looks comfy.

I picked a raw lettuce leaf but can't eat it. The raws have it as [EDIBLE_RAW] so I should be able to, right?

>>169600668
I guess not. Are you playing a carnivorous animal man?

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>>169591986
*muffled ooga booga noises and drumming playing in the distance*

>>169600837
Playing a goblin, but I removed [NO_EAT] from them.
.. I left in [BONECARN] though, which "implies carnivore".
Damnit, that's it, isn't it?

benis

>started with an idea to make ninjas with smoke bombs
>currently seeing if I can set up conflicts with crusaders, mongols, and samurai
>still stumped on what to do with treefuckers

>>169601219
Yup.

>game is shit
>has a fanbase

>>169605510
>shitposting
>on 4chan