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Look at my chart edition

Latest Patch Notes
>http://fextralife.com/nioh-1-04-patch-notes/

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Purple/Blue = Disassemble (Then use the blue mats to forge a purple if you have enough)
Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.

>What does the summoning candle do?
It returns your guardian spirit to you when you die along with the amrita you collected.

>Should I use soul match?
Honestly, no, not unless you have basically finished the game and have a weapon with some really great stats. As you progress you will get a steady flow of new weapons and armour that is better than what you have. Don't waste your money on soul matching until later.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour and weapons when you defeat them. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon.

>Which clan should I join? (clan unlocked through progression)
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most.

Beta guide that could still be useful : http://pastebin.com/VEHby7kd

list of smithing texts:
http://pastebin.com/iDcwJWuy
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Anyone have inheritable change to attack Dex A?
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>Ginchiyo
>Pure

Not if this guy has anything to say about it
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Cant wait to get some numbers on set bonuses that give damage.
Im wondering if full obsidian or tatenachi will give more damage
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>>169406670
Wonder what the japs thought of their own artwork back then.
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>mfw Axe playthrough

I'm not enjoying it very much. I'm spoiled after playing Spear/Sword which is insanely varied and versatile. It's strong though. No doubt there. Killed Hino and Tachibana without a sweat.
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>>169406770
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>>169406425
I do.
>Way of the Strong
>2nd Region
>The Conspirators
Im at the start, look for me
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>>169406770
They probably thought it looked like this
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>tfw still trying for a living weapon build Yasakani Magatama
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>>169407060
Not sure if this is a subtle joke at their eyes.
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Reposting the updated devenant helmets list.
If you know something I don't, don't let anything stop you from sharing.
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Post your willies
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>>169406969
wew thanks senpai
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>>169407231
Did you get it?
If you cant find me, try restarting the mission until you see me. Ill be there for a while, no sweat.
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>>169407196
when these say non-refashionable, does that mean they can't be refashioned or that things can't be refashioned into them?
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>Water Shadow does nearly twice as much damage as Haze
>but Haze either downs the enemy or puts them in a drained Ki state leading to far more damage
So what's the point?
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>>169407225
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>>169407331
> things can't be refashioned into them
this.
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>>169407396
Pretty sure haze has less frames, so it requires better timing.
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>>169407225
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>>169407287
looking right now
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Do I have to do NG+ to get the all hot spring trophy?
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>>169407260
Well that's implying I did the first two tutorials
I did do them just to get the checkmarks by them, but I sped through the tutorial since I played the alpha/beta/demo a lot.
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So, kelley's a homonculus?
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>>169407225
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>>169407696
Yes
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>>169407196
Good work, Anon. And Female Demon is non-refashionable.
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>>169406826
>It's strong though.
Is it really? Even after respec'ing and reforging the shit out of my axe for it to even be playable for the 500 prof. for the dojo mission, it still only did like 50 damage more than my kajagoogoo.
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>There are people in this general who prefer a starky helmet over 7 set bonus with one of your own choice of weapons
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Is it worth exploring missions at all in ng+ or do they all still give the same crap loot?
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>>169407287
>>169407561
4 restart now don't see your Revenant senpai
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>>169408052
Pretty much the same loot.
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>>169407561
>>169408059
Im at the edge of the water
Im still here, dont worry
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For the 'complete every mission' achievement, does that include the dojo missions and shit, or do I just have to fill in each region's progress bar to max?
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should I be stacking luck or item drop rate for smithing texts?
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>>169408008
are there actually any full sets that are worth wearing for general use other than meme demon and afro samurai?
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>>169408732
Luck
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>forging RNG is shit
>weapon drops are almost always ass as well

I wish revenant farming wasn't the only way to get weapon upgrades.
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>>169407225
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>>169408694
The 'complete every mission' doesn't need you to do any Way of Strong content
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Any good tips for "A meeting on the other shore"?
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>>169408694
iirc you just have to finish way of the samurai and all twilight missions
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>>169408742
Fanatic
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>>169408874
Burst down Yuki after shooting Oda in the head, otherwise take chunks off Oda while dodging Yuki's icicles.
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>>169408742
Genius Strategist and Fanatic
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>>169407663
No.
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>eye lasers going through the boss
Good shit.
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>>169408732
yes
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>>169407954
It's got incredible ki-break anon. Top tier I'd imagine.
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can't beat moth boy in sekigahara
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>>169408792
That is pretty slick anon.
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>>169407196
are you trying to tell me that the theatre masks such as Old Sage, Woman's Face and Tengu aren't unique?
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>>169409193
>defense down talisman
>use fire talisman or fire type guardian spirit
>win
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>>169409193
Post password, I'll help
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>>169407225
flash attacking between two swords works pretty well. have familiarity A+ on my bow before anyone says anything.
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>>169407225
Posting my golden willy.
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>>169409147
thanks for replying, that just means I'm missing a few though I have an idea it might actually just be 1... that dumb centipede cave... I didn't shit in that hot spring when I saw it but I've shit in every other one
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>>169408351
cant find you senpai if I restart two times graves don't spawn and I have to restart the whole game.
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Thank god this game have items that let me kill everything with two hits otherwise I would've died from boredom.
Maybe next time they give the enemies more than 3 moves.
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>>169409363
Don't know about Old Sage, but Woman's Face and Tengu are mission rewards, while the list is for devenant drops.
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>>169407225
TOP O' THA MARNIN' TO YE GUVNA... I mean, tono
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>>169410204
I like it. What are those clothes?
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Does the "gold earned" effect increase the gold you get as a reward from missions? Or does it just increase gold that enemies drop?
Also what does the gold nioh armor effect "money earned from enemies" do? It says "as much as doubles money earned from enemies". I take this to mean it's a chance to double.
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What level should I try to get to with the amrita glitch before patching? Took like 24 hours to get to 185 so I'm not sure it's worth it, would have been like 215 but I maxed out every guardian spirit.
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>>169409647
>>169408351
I think I found you with spear right?
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>>169409467
>using two of the same weapon and switching between them
well shit I never even THOUGHT of that
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>>169410347
I haven't tested it, but since there's a clan with the bonus "Mission rewards +" I doubt that money earned changes the mission rewards. And now that I think about it I remember specifically getting exactly as much as a mission reward says even with +gold earned.

And yes, that wording means it's just a chance to double what is picked up, akin to that #1 clan's bonus.
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What mission am I missing from the omi region in way of the samurai? All of the missions have a check mark next to them
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>>169409467
familiarity on a bow doesn't change your sword attack, only agility
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>>169410559
Grind up 2kat and do the mystic art mission for it to unlock a side mission afterwards.
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>>169410559
Did you do the lmao2kat dojo mission?
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r8, h8 my shit taste. First two were random things I made, before settling on the right
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>>169410508
lets you switch as needed for enemy type and elemental preference, human damage works for revenants.
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>>169409647
>>169410421
No
The only thing I have on is Kusarigama
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>>169410789
well two elemental swords would also be a perfect way to lay Discord on something
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>>169410662
pretty sure it does, tried it myself when i first rolled it. hitting the same enemy with and without the bow. but i guess there could have been things i didnt account for effecting the damage. ill test it again.
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>>169378414
>you don't have to run through all that extra shit if you just use a red emote on the wall mimic. the stairs up to the last chest will be right behind once you drop down.

Updated the webm to show this, it's a good path. If you're not confident about fighting walls though I wouldn't take this one.
It randomly changes what colour gesture you have to use, it's not always red. More often then not I have to fight him but I'm on a pretty good build and only takes me about 3-4 seconds to kill him, which is still faster then the run around.
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>can near perfectly cosplay Afro
>can play as a giga nigga
>but not both at once
Travesty, I say.
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>mfw heavy armor set stamina reqs
I'm okay with 70% but even that is EXPENSIVE. I guess the cost won't escalate over time though. Heavy is heavy. Endgame isn't much heavier than early game.

>>169410751
The one on the right is okie doke.
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>>169410538
Damn it. So is mizucchi even worth it? I've upgraded it to 30 for gold earned. Not sure how much you even get from enemies.
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>Get an axe
>Less armor gives more attack with A scaling
>Co-op as a naked beyblade
Neat
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>>169411073
Forgot pic
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>>169410931
>>169410662
shit youre right, just tried it again. i must have been getting counter hits or something before. thanks for freeing up a slot
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>>169410931
Please do report back, I had only heard of it and hadn't tested it myself. I kind of hope it works, so I can reroll my familiarity onto my rifle.
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>>169411295
well if you put Warrior of the West bow or Ravenwing Rifle on and have a Yasakani Magatama, you get a bit of damage reduction at least
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>>169410751
No need to be so hard on yourself, anon. You're an okay fella.
What's the chest piece on the right?
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>>169411154
That guardian spirit does not act like the clan bonus or the armor. It's a flat increase.

>>169411295
Thank you for confirming either way, I appreciate it.

>>169411457
>tfw full kingo's, 4 piece wotw, and 2 piece saika's

Getting 2 piece bonus from a single piece on is way too good, and having a rifle / bow be a part of the set really amplifies that.
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>>169411457
yeah, im 5 pieces of wotw for the damage to electrified and two pieces of yagyu for parry windows with the yasakani. head is warrior monks to reach 200 toughness.
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>>169411493
Master Swordsman, from the 2kat trainer. I'm wearing the full set for now, just refashioned to look different
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>>169410751
Is that veteran leg piece divine? If so would you be willing to drop it?
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>>169410421
Still here
If you havent found me yet, try restarting your ps4
Anything to refresh the revenants
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>>169411731
>divine
I haven't even beaten NG yet
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>>169411030
oh really? Guess I am just lucky then it;s usually red. You can tell what gesture is bad by looking at revenants near the wall. Will say shit like "_____ was killed by the wall because of their neutral behavior" so you have a hint as to which one NOT to use so you don't waste your two chances.
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>>169411713
Well then might as well throw on a ravenwing rifle or keep the WotW bow and you can switch out another piece for another set.
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>>169411790
dunno maybe change the mission?
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What level should I get to with the glitch before I patch? 50 in all stats?
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>>169411030
neat thanks
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>Anons willingly kill themselves for each other in this general
>Will stand by their graves and ask other anons if they were found yet
>Always looking to help
>Shitposting happens but not that often
>Discussing what we learn about the game often
This is a good general.
>>169411937
If you're speed running it over and over like me, that rev grave isn't spawning quick enough. (5 minute refresh timer or some shit like that) >>169358994
>Revenant/Grave info
>http://pastebin.com/9bYH0Nf8
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>>169412076
cant have that shit cluttering up my style though
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>>169412098
might as well get to enough to hit the Amrita cap of 10m/level
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Is there a chart for how much equip load you get at each level of stamina yet?
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>>169412146
>If you're speed running it over and over like me, that rev grave isn't spawning quick enough. (5 minute refresh timer or some shit like that)

bah I guess you're right. Good webm. pretty optimal.
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>>169412078
Alright, gimme a sec
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>>169412101
No problem.
>>169411937
>>169412146
>>169412270
Also, in that webm, you can see me briefly turn around when I look at the wall. I was looking for the rev grave and it wasn't there. I wasn't going to wait 5 minutes, when I could kill it faster
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>>169412154
fair. I actually like Ravenwing's little bird head on my back though
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>>169405439
So this helmets once you got them you can't sell the right? Or if you do you can get them again? I want to know because after each mission i just sell everything with lower level or not worthy effects
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>>169412303
maybe try Bearer of III Tidings and just drop into the pit.
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>>169412078
>>169412303
1st Region
Wreathed In Flame
Beside the Shrine, behind the big rock at the start
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>>169412352
im rerolling the bow now, do you know if damage to revenants works with the sword?
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>>169412543
twilight
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>>169412625
as far as I know bow stats are only for bow damage/kills.
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>>169412551
alright I look for you.
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what happens if i give that cuck the tortiseshell hairpin? its worth 100k amrita so if all i'm getting is his armor that i wont need after next level then i'll pass
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>>169409467
What's all the strength of this build for?
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>>169413324
he gives you some ninja locks, give him the hairpin it's better than the amrita
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Not having much luck getting the -1 magatama from trail of the master. It's dropping considerably more purple accessories now than before the patch, even with luck prestige, luck talisman and luck passives
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>>169413324
100k amrita is pocket change, give him the hairpin.
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>>169412551
senpai I give up back to reforging.
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>>169413446
I'm still getting greens, but nowhere near as often, and Yasakani is a fair bit rarer it seems. I wonder if Ginchiyo's Request is better for it now
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>>169413405
>>169413468

i guess... i don't really feel like being able to hold another 3 arrows or another 7 kunai is worth half a level up at this point, i never use this ninja shit, but i guess 100k isn't really that much amrita
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>>169413626
:(
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>>169412270
>>169412101

For people who don't care for sped up webms. This is the actual video, quality was cut when I put my shitty captions on it.

https://youtu.be/huq1gzPo8O8
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>>169413732
100k is literally nothing
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>>169413732
you'll get 100k amrita killing like 3 enemies in NG+
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>>169413842
how often would you say you get Yasakani Magatama as a reward from this?
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>>169413396
strength to 33 is better for ki pulse and 1kat damage than boosting skill past 50.
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Is there a more complete list of all the smithing texts than in the OP?
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>>169414202
I've gotten some pretty good divine magatamas, but I haven't actually made note if they were Yasakani.
I couldn't honestly say.
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What's a good 1kat set? I use Atlas Bear/Daibi-washi as my guardian spirit and I use the axe/hammer as my side weapon.
I'm just looking for a decent set that isn't the Warrior of the West set.
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>>169414330
>that isn't the Warrior of the West set.
Why not WotW?
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is it possible to get A+ to heart/skill on a Atagi Sadamune? I've tried on 4 different ones but all i get is B- with max senpai and i've been trying for hours as well.
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How effective is the "ninjutsu damage bonus A" on the iga set?
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>>169414621
>max senpai
oh word filter, you so funnay
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>>169414621
found this on the inheritance mission in way of the strong.
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>>169414537
I don't like the guardian spirit bonus and I don't really use tiger sprint enough for the damage bonus to worthwhile. Don't get me wrong, it's a good set but I feel like there's another set where I could take advantage of the bonuses it provides.
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>>169414867
Are you uploading your screenshots to twitter? Because they look bad as shit.
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>>169414621
It sure is. I've gotten bunch from revenants.
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>>169414867
>>169414961
well shit. i have no idea why all i get is C as i've had B on dex with no familiarity but it gives me nothing but C with everything else
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>>169414943
not really posting them for picture quality, but im sending them to facebook then saving them at a smaller filesize
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>>169413732
don't ever pass up limited time items retard
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>>169414867
That sword is spreading like a virus, every rev iv killed that had it, had those exact stats.
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If i died as a Revenant and had say A+ STR and A+ familiarity and someone else fought my revenant do they get that weapon with those stats or is it completly random?
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>>169413732
You can only get so many ninjutsu points in a playthrough, this includes leveling up and all the locks. If you choose not to give him the hairpin, you will never be able to get those points again unless you start a brand new save file.
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>>169415395
good, im tired of seeing kanemitsus
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>>169415395
I'm sure a lot of red demons have the same skillset.
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this might seem like a weird question, but does Hara-kiri sword bypass quick-change scroll?
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Which clan has the cutest girls?
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>Lost all enthusiasm once getting to NG+

Was fun while it lasted but it's a bit too repetitive.
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anyone out there with that dragon kabuto helm?
a drop would be super cool, and i've got the tanuki one if you wanna "trade" or some shit
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>tfw 400 luck with gyokuto living weapon active
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>>169415729
Every game is a series of buttons!!!!
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>>169415732
youre seeing a noticable difference with luck that high?
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>>169415684
Oda has Lady No and Ranmaru
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>>169415732
how 400? I have a couple of accessories with it, but they only have 90-something each
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>>169415729
Going from 2-3 hits to kill thing to 5-10 on the same enemy is not a good incentive to keep playing. I am finishing all the missions on NG and taking a break till DLC.
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>>169415649
Yes.
I was curious also and tested it.
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>>169414656
It's about 5%, so not much. Aya Komori gives you the bulk of the damage bonus from using that set.
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Do we have a list of confirmed cheese ways to play the game? I'm new to this general but I'm guessing magic is one of them.
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>>169415879
>Post yfw the DLC is 320 and up and you'll be massively undergeared for it.
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>always get change to attack body/hearth/skill A
>never get Dex A
>never have seen Magic A after 5000-7000 rerolls

Why is A dex and magic so rare?
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>>169416030
Magic has the easiest cheese, but it's limited use. Most hard cheese involves combining things like Iai attacks + knockdown spirits, Critical Health builds, etc.


Magic isn't like in Souls games. They're more support, and not so much for damage. Except Guardian Spirit talismans
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>Every unlocked Axe skill is a disappointment
>Just want to respec all the points in the tree and the investment into Str
>People say the entire tree is balanced around the mystic art right at the end

Fuck that. I'm going skill.
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>>169416030
Any magic
Axe
Spear
Kursari
Living Weapon
Phoenix Guardian
Paired Raiken Guardian
Birb starter spirit guardian
Genbu turtle guardian
Canons
Playing Online
Upgrading end game gear past +0
Using set bonuses

>2kat Water Sword, Sign of Cross, God of Wind
>Spear Spearfall, Windmill
>Axe All attacks drain massive Ki, Mad Spinner
>Kusarigama Reaper, Blade Spin
>1kat Build for iai damage and you can oneshot with the mystic art for back damage
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>>169416004

So at most you only really need 3 pieces and a Yasakani, 4 if you want the dash endurance?
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>Oda and his wife

Crikey lads, i'm considering sloth cheese.
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>>169416223
Axes are eh, but there's an axe later on that gets a guaranteed 'change to attack: Strength' that basically doubles the strength scaling, so it does big boy damage for a NG weapon. REspec books are plentiful, though, so just dick around freely and experiment
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>>169411264
>red memon
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>>169415534
id rather it be something with transferable CC or CtA skill or something rare like those water 2kats
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>>169416361
kill oda first, ice bitch wont use her dash stab until shes been hit a bit so try not to accidentally damage her until youve killer her dude.
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Sometimes when I kill a revenant the weapon they drop doesn't have any parameteres whatsoever. Any reason for this? I doubt people are running around without anything on their weapons.
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>>169416309

basically doing anything short of a no-magic-no ninjutsu run with 1kat and 2kat is cheap
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>>169416582
weapon was bought or forged
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>>169415413
Not sure about weapons, but I've gotten multiple copies of the same armor with the exact same stats, so I assume they carry over.
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>>169416372

I'll look out for it. For now though they're just so dull to use compared to the other weapons with the same investment.

The last Axe skill I bought was the one where you block and attack, and I can't figure out the intended usage at all. You still take full Ki damage for the block and the attack is only as strong as a single mid-stance hit. It's crazy.
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>>169416648
Now you're learning.
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>>169416506
That's what i've been trying to do but the damage is too much, maybe I need to play less aggressive.
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>>169416764
nice to see Nioh get consumed by the cancerous "only lvl 1 runs are legitimate" Souls community so quickly
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i usually run in a circle around them until oda decides to do his double dash stab, just block it and circle around him for some free damage before rolling away to repeat. sneak in quick dash attacks when the opportunity arises.
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>>169416854
Only real problem people complain about is Sloth Talisman

Every other method I listed have been examples of ways to cheese the game, but no complaints, rather people complimented on those who found it.
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>>169416762
They're only really good when you stack poise by wearing heavy armor. At that point, you basically win any trades you get into. Especially if you supplement it with defensive Onmyo magic.
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ok so near as I can tell the Divine droprate on the accessories in The Trail of the Master severely dropped, but still only drops purple or higher. Basically, Yasakani Magatama is harder to acquire, but this is still the best way.
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Where's the prestige points guide when I need it?
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>>169407083
How does farming it work? Sometimes the loot is changing for me and other times it isnt
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>>169417127
Why need a guide when you can reset it infinitely and always change it.
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>>169416854
Elitism in games isn't exclusive to the souls genre you know, besides that post was obviously parody
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>>169416437
>Play like I want you to play, God damn it!!1!
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>>169417025
honestly people who bitch about Sloth are fucking faggots.

>I stacked Sloth, Soak, Defense Down and Carnage Talisman and shredded the boss in 20 seconds
>CLEARLY THIS IS SLOTH'S FAULT"
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>>169416762

>Equip Fuse
>Use defensive buff from the axe tree
>Never dodge, never die
>Get rekt by bosses
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>>169415834
50 from prestige
25 on each armor piece (you have to soul match it on with helmets that have it, no armor besides helmets can have natural luck)
25 from the onmyo passive
125 from max level gyokuto
30 on a fan accessory
20 on yasakani
48 from Furuta clan

so actually 423 right now, and it'll get even higher with Furuta bonus increasing

as for if it's effective, bosses usually drop all divines now. and I seem to get texts fairly quickly. for comparison it took me 106 kills to get of of muneshige's texts with like 140 luck. but I got all of Saika's in about 13 runs
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>Grind out the Yatagarasu set for hours
>Equip it all
>Auto-aim doesn't work
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>>169417570
Because you cant fire from lock on for some reason
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>>169417171

1) Stack your build for luck (luck on gear, max Itokuri, etc.)
2) have Luckbringer, Suppa, and Catwalk spells
3) Make your way to the room
4) use Luckbringer
5) Check Body
6) Open Door
7) Shrine
8) Luckbringer, Check Body
9) Take Hyotokko Mask, Shrine
10) Luckbringer, Check Body

The reason they change with each shrine visit is because you've opened the door the first time and grabbed the mask the second time.
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>>169417559
oh, I thought you meant +400 just while using living weapon, none of the other bonuses considered

You know there are +Luck during Living Weapon accessories that give near +100 luck each, right?
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Can someone post a screenshot of the blacksmiths patronage levels at late NG+? I'm just wondering how many levels do i need to save while the talking to tome glitch still works.
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>>169417559
13 runs with the current 423 luck I meant
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>>169417629
Oh thats what changes it. Well sheeeit
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>>169417731
yeah, I don't see those making any considerable difference right now either way though, and I don't want to get rid of either accessory
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Does this affect my melee damage too?
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>>169417978
fair enough. I'm trying to make a similar Living Weapon Build to the Suzaku Amrita Farm, but based on maximum luck. I have a Yasakani with Luck during Living Weapon and another accessory with it as well. In theory I'd be able to do the same thing.
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>>169415732
>>169417559
Just curious but what's it like using Gyokuto outside of the luck side of things?

Always curious to how lesser-used spirits are in practice. I don't use Ninjutsu either but I'm tempted to try it out to mix it up from Onmyo
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can you even get 2k damage with 160 weapons?

i got body/skill/dex capped but this shit cant even reach 2k, maybe close combat damage shows in the attack but familiarity damage doesnt?
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Question: I'm level 70 now and I'm barely doing any damage to Yuki Onna (maybe about 2% of her life bar per low stance quick attack with spear). Am I doing something very wrong, or do I just need to level more or get better gear or something?
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>>169418705
Soul Match your most used weapon with your highest level weapon, to make sure it's relevant.
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Is it even possible to wear all 5 pieces of the Obsidian Armor and still have B agility? 99 each strength and stamina? Equipment bonuses or skills I've never seen before?
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>>169418705
spear is level 70 too?
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>>169409885
Old Sage is a Devenant drop, it's in the Ninja Mansion, in the patio before the first spinning door

>can't get Spiderteakettleman's hahaha
I also just beat Moonshiggy and Honda
It wasn't a fight at all, it was a marathon ran backwards and in a circle
After Shiggy was out, Honda was simply
>chug a sacred water and then Heaven Flash him to death in a corner
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Nioh 2: Rance Quest

would you play it?
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>>169419368
>Final boss is William trying to protect Okatsu
I like it
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>>169418454
nothing spectacular in living weapon form, lays down little electric mines as its talisman.

100 ninjutsu power, 10% dash speed, and 10% low attack damage are all pretty nice though. also 25% more elixir effectiveness, but who uses those?
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>>169419006
I think my weapons are around level 55. Is that too low?
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>>169418916
Okay, I'll try that out, thanks.
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how the fuck can i cheese this double raven sub mission? its really pissing me off, i have trouble with just one of these fuckers
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What skills should get in my armor?
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So what does the unlimited Kunai/Shuriken build actually look like as far as skills to take?
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>>169420152
Their spawns are staggered, so throw everything you have on the first one and then deal with the second one normally
It helps if you know their moveset and have sloth, weakness, carnage etc.
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>>169417570
>>169417625
How does the auto aim even work then?
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>>169419913
try get get them as high as possible(soul match or craft a new one)

character level doesnt matter too much desu
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>>169420152
Sloth them both, Summon Suzaku to hit both of them, then hit them with another element enough to discord them
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>>169410326
Appearance wise it's:
>Tower of London Guard: Hat
>Legendary Strategist's Garb: Kinu
>Yamabushi Apparel: Tekko
>Bowman's Armor: Hakama
>Nanban-gusoku: Suneate
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>>169417559
I have pretty much the same setup except my yasakani give 93 luck on LW and yet only 2-3 of boss drops are divine.
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Is Mount Hiei the best place for spirit stone farming?
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WHY DO HIS STILTS CLIP THROUGH THE FLOOR?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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fluidity or stability?

fluidity sounds great and all, but I can see myself triggering it when I only want to ki pulse and don't actually want to attack
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>>169420308
Cool, thanks. It sounds like a good plan, I'll definitely give that a try.
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>>169420756

Fluidity. You can always ki dodge if you don't want to lock yourself into the stance swap animation.
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>die to boss
>go back
>boss ded and replaced by "go forward" thingy

s-sure
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>>169420159
Damage, life, luck, toughness and evasion ki usage are good.
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>>169420920
I find myself ki pulsing to before an attack to regain enough ki to block it though, so I'd never be able to do that with spears
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>6x sloth casts
>suzaku and 6x guardian talismans
>weakness
>faster omnyo casting mystic art

good stuff, earlier i almost thought i'd have to learn to play lol
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are poison and fire shurikens worthwhile in an unlimited shuriken build or am I better off with just the Kunai and regular shuriken?
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>>169420992
You can cheese most of the bone bridge if you kill something small and then immediately die after the last hit. It automatically clears the section.

That pretty much works for anything that spawns from yokai clouds/zones in the game.
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>>169420289
>>169420325

suzaku spam got 'em, thanks m80s
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Which is the best Guardian Spirit? Is there a list?
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How do I beat oda and his bitch?
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>>169421739
suzaku seems pretty.. okay-ish ;^)
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>>169421739
There is no 'best'. There are 'best for this build' spirits, but even then you can try something special. Some aren't as good, but all have something they're good at
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>>169421739
>Which is the best Guardian Spirit?
Genbu
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anyone else getting summoned to Edo castle a lot now? is this where all the shitters have gotten to now that they were carried past Umi-bozu?

>spam whistle near the nurikabe to try to get host to whistle near it as well since I can see it's a yellow one
>walks up, looks at it for a second, then attacks
>let him fight it alone and he dies
>laugh over his corpse

fuck I hate these retards, he had a 4chan meme name too
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Anyone know if the amrita kodama in the iga escape is close to the beginning? Just went through that mission and missed just that one.
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>>169422020
>now that they were carried past Umi-bozu?


i stopped doing random encounters since literally 9/10 of them are people wanting to do that level, usually just rushing to the boss with no torches lit or falling into the water before we even get to the door
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>>169422020
Maybe he was trying to get the prestige title for killing it?
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>>169409467
finally found a better inheritable, updated the sword. dropped from a revenant in the inheritance if anyone is looking for combat damage.
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>find grave
>it's a devenant
>check what killed him
>"Beaten to death by William"
Woah.
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How do Twilight missions work?

For example Im on story mission 5, and every main mission i have cleared it has said 'Twilight mission 2/3/4 unlocked'.
Pretty self explanatory right, did the first real mission, then cleared the twilight version set at lv 15. But i cant find the other ones at all, all that I have is the first mission and some level 100+ thing that will slap my shit.

Am I just missing something very obvious and being blind?
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Day 4
Obsidian samurai still hasn't dropped any texts

Itokuri is a lying cunt who only pretends to increase your luck
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>>169422020
I have also been getting lots of Edo castle and not a lot of umi bozu the last few days.
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>>169422643
The available twilight missions change every day.
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did spearfall get nerfed?
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>>169422637
Yeah, that mission caught me by surprise with that
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>>169422939
Ohh ok, that would explain it.

Guess I got lucky then, some of the gear I got from what I assume the easiest twilight mission possible is carried me until just now where I started to see better stuff.
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>>169421639
Fire is worth it, poison takes a shit load of investment to start hitting nice numbers and even then so much in the game resists it. Fire shurikens are a strict upgrade over bombs since the after effect fire hit explosion is very high.
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>>169422379
Then he should do it in his own time
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what's a fast way for spirit stones?
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>>169422379
judging by how he played, I doubt he knows what prestige titles even are. looking at menu options is usually too hard for people.
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The missing piece. Fuck me. I already pumped 6 million into that slut. Fucking gold digger.
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>>169422423
any info on the rev so i know who to fight?
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>>169423654
Backup your save, burn all of your money on reset books, get the trophy and put back your old save.
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>>169423654
>people who didn't use the Tome glitch
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>>169423776
was a red demon spear if that helps
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>>169423654
how did I get it before you? I need to farm proficiency on everything else but the Katana and I only just beat the game today, along with all yokai, springs and kodama

have you not spammed the talk command with her? you can get a shit load of points with her from that, even use one of the house bonuses for Silver Tongue
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>>169422676
try Gyokuto instead?
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>80% divine forge chance
>roll blue
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>>169423654
Haha hope you have another 20mil hanging around
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so are 160s only acquired by random forging like 320s were? do 160s drop from revenants now since they were "fixed"?
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>>169424074
I feel as though they severely fucked divine rolls with the 320 nerf. Anything over 3 cups used to guarantee a green and with 10 cups I could regularly get +1s and +2s. Now I'm lucky to get a green with 10 cups, let alone a +1.
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>>169423971
>Equip Gyokuto
>Level it up to 20
>First try get the sword text
OH FUCK OFF
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lets say I'm using a Katana so its major scaling is in heart, wouldn't it be better to put on something like Dex scaling adding a 4th stat scaling to the weapon, or does the heart scaling stat stack with itself? assuming all stats were 99.
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>>169424074
>he uses 10 fragments
Yeah, I know they're damn near infinite but you gotta admit you wouldn't be so bothered if you had just used 1and it rolled blue
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>>169424430

sounds bout right
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>it's a "Wheelmonk in tight corridor with explosive barrels" episode
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>>169424482
no no no, I just got into ng +, trying to forge weapon I plan to uses as final, but only have so many tahamansdkasn whatever rock material, so have to use 10 since I only get 3 chances to forge.

I never disassembled shit, always offered to level up so I can speed the main game (no side missions + bum rushing bosses = no exp)
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>>169424656
>It's a "Wheelmonk forces you to block and pushes you back just far enough to then turn and immediately force you off a ledge" episode
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So I'm guessing Ninjutsu is only really viable if you stack a fuckload of unlimited skills on your armour?

Was gonna try out a ninjutsu build but I can't really see it being viable like onmyo magic without having access to way more uses.
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>>169425197
Ninja mode with Iga gear so you get the LW refill.
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>>169425197
Ninjutsu is better for status ailments than damage
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>>169424862
>It's a "Wheelmonk walks slowly into you in the corner and drains your entire health bar with no windup" episode
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How do I get to the amrita kodama in the iga escape? I can see it on my map, it's behind a false wall that I'm on the wrong side of, can't figure it out
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>>169425389
There should be another false wall nearby if it's the one I'm thinking
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so what am i supposed to do for the giant skeleton boss? i broke both of his feet, he fell down, i did some minor damage, and he got back up but then i can't re break his feet so i'm only doing chip damage while he's at 2/3rds health
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>>169424774
are you serious? I've been constantly maxing the limit with materials

kill every reverenant you see and disassemble everything you want, you can go to the forge screen and make new materials

white into yellow into blue into purple
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>>169406229
The suzaku critical build has rendered a number of mechanics pointless. Ki pulsing, dodging, and healing all get thrown to the side when you're mashing quick attacks and mowing everything down.
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>>169424774
>Actively avoiding side-missions
Why
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>>169425887
Hit its weak spot.
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>>169416762
Roar? Would post the webm, but I'm at work. If you use it on a humanoid it knocks them down, and if you hit them with the last swing as they get up it's a guaranteed killing strike. You also automatically do it if your ki's drained, and it won't leave you staggered like normal blocking does. It needs Intensity to really shine, though.
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>>169425887
break one foot, run to the top, beat up the head, break the other foot when it recovers, beat up the head, break the hands, beat up the head
I got it to half hp the first time, it's a really easy boss to figure out
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>>169425378
>it's a wheelmonk has no visible health but explodes and kills you episode
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What is the best amrita farming setup?

Suzaku lvl 30 +30% in living weapon

Amrita Kodama +25%

Best amrita gear you got

Is that about it?
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>>169425896
>>169426028
2nd build, speed to ng+, do ginchiyo/onyorki quest for exp to gain levels.

I did what you did 1st playthrough, this is a different character. Doing every mission takes wayyyy too long.
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>>169426229
Living weapon amrita on accessories, kodama bowl, sake, demon king, double duration onymo skill.
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>>169426229
Don't forget to drink the sake.
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>>169426229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoMFMfn-ckg

cat in the comments has some added tips
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>>169426260
then suffer for your haste
you will need to do that if you want to make the gear you want
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>>169415512
>If you choose not to give him the hairpin, you will never be able to get those points again unless you start a brand new save file.

This is false, unless you use the hairpin.

The first time I did the submission when he asked for it, I said no. I looked up what happens if you give it to him, so I went and did the mission again. When he asked me I gave it to him and got the locks.
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How do i inflict damage onto myself before a boss? Im doing a critical build
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>>169426764
set yourself on fire
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>>169426437
but i can just go back and kill stuff way quicker then you did doing it normally...it saves time anon.

Anyways, was only complaining bout the dumb chance rate since it happened 3 times.
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>>169426764
harakiri and that item that lets you live through fatal blow once
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>>169423654
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What do I max next? Im using 2kat if it wasnt obvious enough
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>>169426764
Quick CHange + Harakiri
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>>169427019
>no dex, next to no magic, minimal spirit
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>>169426407
>3 sakes for 80m

just run ghosts sub mission and use 1 too get 40m / 3 minutes
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>>169427142
sakes are easy, you get 2 every time you repeat the Musashi mission

which ghosts submission though?
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Full soundtrack torrent where?
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>using the living weapon button during living weapon summons a Guardian Talisman spirit

well holy shit
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>>169427106
Not that anon but I'm the same way. I don't use any spells or jutsus and my spirit animal only needs a little spirit.

I am a simple man who just likes to melee attack things.
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Grinding Axe of Judgement text is such bullshit.
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>>169427541
Then raise those stats to 10, at least, and 15 for spirit. There are a shitload of spirits you can equip just for their bonuses to hitting shit, and Ninjutsu + magic still benefit other things until they hit 10
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>>169427142
2 sake 100 mill if you use the onymo skill.
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flux no longer does anything when you have fluidity

I knew I should have taken stability
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>>169427661
I use Kato, which only needs 10. I've got 9 magic for the yasakani, what would 10 give me? Similarly, what would 10 dex give me?
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>>169427475
I found this out recently too
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I just did The Inheritance sub mission, the one with Genbu, and...
I had the last "revenant" kill me, and that counted as finishing the mission?
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So do the axe mystic arts work even when you're not using the axe? Some others specifically say "while using [THIS WEAPON]" but the Axe ones make it seem like they're just general passives.
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>>169422423
curious, what spirit do you use, Raiken or Mizuchi?
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>>169427791
>What would having points to try new things and make me hit harder do
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>>169415879
You can skip so much enemies though. For ogress level I didn't fight anyone but her because I couldn't be arsed doing it for umpteenth time
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>>169429075
I mean what do they give me in terms of immediate stat bonuses or passives. I'm not interested in buff items or projectiles.
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Are there no soft caps? Why do I keep seeing people with 99 skill?
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>>169427475
>>169427995
That attack you use to summon it is very strong too.
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>>169417570
>not trying out set bonuses with dropped armor before crafting it
the auto-aim works but it's just very weak
>>
really hoping the DLC has a reforge accessories option
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Is there an easy way to farm the Obsidian Samurai set? The fucker is all the way at the end of a level, can I just run to the boss room and fight him?
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>>169429314
Theres only soft caps on certain attributes such as stamina and heart
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>>169429075
some people only use one, the other or neither on a play through.

i beat NG and NG+ without spending a single onmyo skill point.
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hey so either you can't use harakiri on missions without a shrine, or you can't use it after a quick-change scroll anymore
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>>169430149
Beat him and if he doesn't give the text, quit to the title and you start from the shrine when you continue
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>>169416309
so using skills is cheese

are you mentally challenged?
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>>169430149
>Got it on my first win.

Huh. Cool.
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>>169430564
I'm sure he was deadly serious anon...
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is there a list of what special effects are in what pools? I am having trouble getting change to attack on my Giant Frog Spear, and I can't tell if it's because I have Familiarity Damage Bonus on it, or something else
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>>169430236
>being this much of a speshhul snooflaek
You're dragging down the quality of these threads with your nonsense gibberish and annoying avatar posting
>>
>farming poop

Next gen gameplay.


So I need 30 of these things?
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>>169431136
Yeah but I think Noble Dung is worth more, because I got everything and it didn't take 30 dung balls.
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For the Obsidian set, if I have the accessory that decreases requirements for sets by 1, should I replace the head with the warrior monk's hood?
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>>169431014
>implying there is only one yojimbo/akira kurosawa poster.
>>
What the hell does final damage do? Is it when the enemy is in the ground or the last hit on the enemy?

Also, kinda a stupid question but I have this sword from the Crossed Sickles set with +10 water and a couple rare stats and I want to get it to +5? How do I do that? I have a lot of leftover divine gear I can use.

Also, how do I inherit? I tried reading up on it but do I have to have full familiarity with the weapon I want the ability from and the weapon that will inherit it?
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>>169431225
>Noble Dung

That's hilarious.
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>>169431261
nigga he uses the same filename naming convention for all of his posts. It's one guy, and he's kind of a fag.
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>>169431304
the strike vs grounded enemies.

Inheritance requires the weapon you're transferring from to have max familiarity
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>>169431304
>+10 water
Its garbage
Standard is +15
The best is +21
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>manage to get almost a complete Fanatic's set from revenants, all I need is the helmet
>end up using my last umi-bozu stone making a torso piece because I'm half-asleep

That's a sign that it's time for bed.
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>>169431242
Anyone?
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>>169431304
and if you wonder why sometimes the inherit wont work, its because some of the skills on the weapon youre trying to inherit might be overlapping with the one you want to have
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>>169431663
No. You only need 200 toughness to poise through attacks.
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>>169431581
Ah alright, usually my weapons have +5 of some element, seeing double digits, I thought it was high.

I realized I didn't clearly state one of my questions though, the Crossed Sickles sword is a divine +1 item, how do I get it to +2 all the way up to +5 or even 10?
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>>169430236
I did NG, kata midstance only no skills no magic no ninjutsu
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>>169431360
no u

and it's not so much avatar posting as it is an autistic collection of reaction images.
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>Get summoned to The Ocean Roars Again
>Summoners back to back fall into the water.
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>>169431225
Noble dungs are 5 normal dungs.
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does anyone know if it's possible to get the tatenashi smithing text?
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>>169431734
(+1) + (+1) = (+2)
(+2) + (+2) = (+3)
(+3) + (+3) = (+4)
etc etc etc
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>>169431742
yeah yeah yeah.

i was just pointing out the possible reason that one guy didn't want to put points in certain stats.
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>>169431825
Yeah I thought so but I didn't want to talk out my ass.

Anybody mind telling me what Justice Ministry Set is crafted with? Really wanna get my fashion on with it once I fight Mothman.
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>>169431754
either way, fuck off.
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Tatenashi text where?
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>>169431360
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>>169431985
I don't think it actually requires anything special.
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>>169432050
forgot the - falseflaggot
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Hey axe users, what's the best self-buff from the axe skill tree?
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>>169432307
Depends on what you want out of the axe
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>>169432307
Battle focus or rage

It depends on what you are doing. Battle focus + mad spinner is great
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How do you get Muneshiggy without the helmet?
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Best way to farm Great Centipede's Fang?
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>>169432381
transform into shiggy and turn off helmets in the options menu
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What are good levels to cap Body and Skill at?
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>>169432136
Cool, ty. Now I can become Vergil
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>Items such as arrows and other consumables will now be sent directly to the storehouse if the player’s carry max is reached.

I love everything.
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I need help.

I use katana and dual katana most of the time but I do get bored and switch to kusarigama and spear for a bit of variation. I also use shuriken, kunai, quick change, makibishi in ninjutsu and guardian spirit, sloth for annoying enemies, carnage and perhaps kekkai or an element for my weapon in Onmyo.

What should my stats look like at around Futamata / Iga Escape for the above playstyle?

I KNOW my stats are fucked up because I went tons of body and stamina first then strength for damage. I don't even use axes now so I know at the very least I have too much in strength and probably stamina. The reason I did this so wrong was my plan was to try a full heavy axe build since the Alpha. Well, turns out I'm not into heavy armor or axe in favor of '3kat' and medium/light armor.

I also know that 'stats dont matter before ng+' but i'd like to know nonetheless even if it borders on min/max.
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Why is everyone wearing Kingo's now?
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>>169432820
I'm guessing because Youtube videos of farming builds utilizing behind the back and final blow damage.
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>>169432820
I assume some made a Kingo build vid on YouTube showing them destroying a boss than it was posted on reddit
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>>169432820
good set bonuses.
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>>169431581
is that at max familiarity?
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>>169432820
dont have to wait for status ailment when you can just insta kill shit from behind
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>>169432574
99 and 99
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>summoned to demon king revealed
>get stuck inside the Hino-enma boss room because the door isn't open for me
>host doesn't understand
>goes off on his own and doesn't pray at the shrine
>dies to the first door guard that he has to fight alone

jesus christ people are fucking terrible
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>>169433014
Yes
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which axe mystic art is better
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>>169432307
Rage for Intensity focus, Battle Focus otherwise
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New player here, is there a level cap for this game and whats a good build for starters?
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>>169433180
cant be see >>169422423
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>>169433359
the level cap is 750
> whats a good build for starters?
do whatever you want and don't worry about builds until NG+
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>>169433359
level cap is insanely huge (99 in each stat)

good build is whatever is comfortable for you. you can respec easily so don't worry too much about it
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>>169433505
>>169433546
Oh thats nice to hear if i don't have to worry about my stats too much. Are resets easily obtainable?
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>>169433505
different guy here, but at 750 you can pretty much have all skills available, right?
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>>169431581
Is there a tier list for stats like this? The game just throws a ton of numbers and it'd be helpful to know which numbers are better than others so I know if I should keep re-rolling or if I got the best there is
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>>169433680
they're purchaseable and you get plenty as mission rewards
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How does farming Otani work?
He has some cutscene after his death, when would it display that you have the text?

What's a good set-up? An anon earlier said Gyokuto's "Luck (Using Living Weapon)" was worth it over the spider's plain +50, and I had an accessory that added more Living Weapon Luck.
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>>169433145
This happen to me. It looked like he glitched through the door after the fight on my screen
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>>169433923
smithing texts are items, so they'd show up with the rest of his loot
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>>169433923
luck doesn't do anything for smith texts, you need human item drop rate.
you can get +30% human item drop rate (using living weapon) on accessories.
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>>169432732

I'm going to bump this. Can anyone give me a basic stat mockup of 3kat with enough ninjutsu, onmyo and spirit for the basics in each category?

I would really appreciate it.
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>>169434134
wrong, Luck works too
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>>169434151
just do whatever, you can respec easily
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>>169433946
yup, he could go through but the door stayed shut for me. not sure if it only happens on the Hino door or what though
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What is the best base 1kat weapon that everyone is using?
Or all weapons just good, depends on the stats?
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>>169434251
it doesn't, luck just increases the chance of getting higher rarity equipment.
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>>169432426
Learn to speedrun the centipede level is about all you can do at the moment

Getting a fang is not a guaranteed drop
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>>169434362
it increases the rarity of everything, thus the rarity of items that are dropped, meaning the times they drop elixirs and shit will more likely be texts
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>>169434582
bosses don't drop elixirs
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>>169434750
Ii, Shiggy, and Saikon do. Then again, I had healer's blessing on.
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>>169434867
I wonder if Healer's Blessing plus luck makes it possible for Elixirs to drop as texts
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>>169434867
post proof
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>>169434984
Someone in a previous thread said texts count as materials. Not sure if that's true or what.
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>>169435147
not sure either but it makes sense
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>>169434134
>>169434251
Any input on which if these is true? I've been farming Niggaboo for his sword text for a little while now, and I've just been stacking Luck thinking that's what you're supposed to do.
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>>169435316
I imagine it's both. Item Drop increases material droprate, Luck increases quality, meaning smithing texts instead of other shit
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>>169419351
Its a mission reward, there is a devenant that drops it but you get it before that as a side-mission reward. That list looks like its for helmets that drop exclusively from devenants.
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Hara Kiri goes through Quick Change now, FYI
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>>169435413
So which spirit is the preferred farming spirit? Does the massive luck boost from Gyokuto out weight the split Luck and Equipment Drop Rate from Itokuri?
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every time i defeat shiggy i feel like he's even more of a cunt, he can do things that even the final boss can't ffs:
>only stunlocks for one hit, second is always a block
>even with red ki, while doing a heavy attack he is unstaggerable
>spams his bitch bow\doggo while out of ki and get's it all back

fuck this shitter
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does the mystic art for onmyo that extends the duration of things also apply to recurrent damage applied to enemies?
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Can someone explain to a retard like me how to use the kusarigama? I am level 130 and want to restat but not sure of where to dump my points or what guardian and armor to wear plus the skill tree bs? Anyone know of a guide? Or willing to help out?
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>>169435597
personally I'm finding Gyokuto more useful because when I beat a boss with it active (plus two luck during LW accessories) I pretty much get nothing but divine gear as drops/
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>>169418982
bump for this question
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>>169418546
>Change to attack (Dexterity) B+
>Change to attack (Dexterity) A+
Not with that garbage. But hey, keep at it, because I told you faggots already you're not getting double dex scaling but you won't believe it so enjoy your sub-2k crap.
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So how do you farm boss fights like Yasuke that don't have duels?
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>>169435508
Fuck
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>>169436041
different guy, is it always better to have a stat other than the one you mainly scale with?
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>>169418546
what mask bruh
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>>169436273
it's a transformation
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>>169436120
>walk into boss room
>kill boss
>quit to title
>load back in at the last shrine
>walk into boss room
>repeat until text drops
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>>169435759
Kusari is kinda mediorce compared to others. I used Iga set and did an unlimited ninjustsu build on top of it. I did pretty unsatisfying damage near the late end of ng+
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>>169432307
Battle focus if you're using Kaido set
Rage if you're using Obsidean set
The defense one isn't very useful outside absolute tanking builds
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>>169436120
Open up the shorcuts to the boss, pray at the closest shrine, kill the boss, pick up everything. If you don't get the text, open up the menu and Quit to Main Menu. Hit continue and you'll pick up from where you prayed last. Kill the boss again and you'll get different drops.

Keep doing this for years. Niggaboo is stingy with his texts.
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>>169433186
Get both, you can swap them anytime.
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>>169435120
told you they don't
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Why do people shoot the cannon at the giant skelly? All it seems to do is make him shoot at us.
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>>169436650
battle focus works with loads of armors
if you're going rage though, you definitely want obsidian/ atlas bear/ intensity
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>>169436925
Opens a new path
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>>169436925
Because Hanzo is dumb and dies in the DLC.
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>working my way through the first region of NG+
>swimming in divines just from revenants

Now I just need to learn how to combine them to get that sweet 150+ gear.

Also, what the fuck is up with the start of the fishing village mission? There were just tons of fully geared graves, with more popping up every time I rested at the shrine. Is it just common courtesy to suicide there if you have sweet stuff? I got almost all of what I'm wielding right now just from those, especially the sweet Jap only pre-order helmet.
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does the set bonus -1 accessory work with set bonuses that only require 2 pieces?

ie, will a single piece of master swordsman armor give me the Skill Ki Reduction: 12.2% bonus?
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>>169433186
If you have high resistance to Yokai Realm and can keep yourself from purifying them, Inner Light is great.

If you wear heavy armor, don't have a lot of attacks, and routinely run out of Ki with your final attack, Intensity is great.

They're both great if either conditions are met, but worthless if they aren't.
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>>169437064
>Also, what the fuck is up with the start of the fishing village mission?
i think it must be

there were like 15 in my game too, with only the single enemy there
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>>169436925
Giant Skelly then destroys a rock that gives you immediate access to the crystal controlling the upper level yokai pools.

So you don't have to run all the way around the level to get to it.
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>>169437064
i recommend you have 4 piece warrior of the west (bow, sword and 1 armor piece) and full of your favourite set.
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>>169437134
yes that is what makes it great
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>>169437252

Eh, it's fodder for plussing up the armor sets I DO like when I find them.

R-right?
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>>169436715
I actually got his axe the very first time. I'll probably farm him later for his other stuff post game
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Welp, there goes 1.8 million amrita

In my defense, I was half playing the game and half watching something and I assumed something was rolling down the path so I turned around to get off of it
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>>169437532
That's not much of a defense.
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>rolling on the gorund makes fire damage go away

kek, well played team ninja
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>>169437532
Candles, homie.
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for the parry extension from the yagyu set

is that for actual parrying or just for something like backwave?
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>>169437387
i guess, if you don't want +10% close combat damage.
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>>169437318
best place to farm one?

i have a mission that gives a green accesory as reward, farm that?
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So is the Iga set the best for 1kat and Kusarigama?
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>>169437856
NG+ demon's daughter

farm gold for hours

you'll eventually get it

I have like 9 of them
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>>169437940
it's best for recurrent damage and dex

onikiba is the only kusarigama in the game with a set bonus, so even if you just use that, you can get the 2 set bonus with yasakani to replenish ninjutsu with living weapon
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do I need to do NG+ Queen's Eyes to craft 160s?

just made a few 154s while trying to get a specific inheritable trait
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>>169438154
yes
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>>169437726
Do candles bring back the amrita you already lost from dying without your guardian? Because I died once and then immediately back-stepped off of the edge because I was spamming X
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>>169438558
No.
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>do a shitload of inventory management
>quit to menu and shut off
>fire up today
>it didn't autosave
fuck
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What should I be focusing on for 3kat with kusa and spear for fun backup?

As far as bonus effects, armor sets, specific weapons, should I have a different element on my 2kat than my 1kat or stack one element? etc.

I can do a basic stat build but I have no idea beyond that.
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>>169438912

I've had that happen to me. It's pretty bullshit that the game doesn't save on quitting menu, given that it saves for pretty much everything else.
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>>169437940
>>169438095
It REALLY feels like Kusarigama was added last minute or something
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>>169438932

>3 kat with kusa and spear

So basically every weapon except the most fun one?

I'd recommend low stance/quick attack ups, and also reduced skill ki use.
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>>169439082
it probably was, considering it wasn't in the first alpha or beta demos, and only in the Last Chance Demo
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>>169437532
I'm sorry.
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>>169439082
I disagree, considering how amazing the moveset is
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Beat Orochi, now time for NG+!
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>>169439739
fag
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>>169439739
you need to beat queens eye first
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are the set bonuses that give attack and defense +10 for using a specific guardian or weapon essentially meaningless statistically?

it must be percentage based, right?

it can't just be +10 defense

that's virtually nothing
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>>169439693
Exactly. They made it last second and didn't think about game balance as much
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>>169439959
they are that garbage
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>>169439879

Fuck, that's what I meant.

Tower f London Revisited wasn't really that great. It was short, and everything was easy. Even the clone Kellys weren't too much trouble with a good living weapon pop. Hundred Eyes was insultingly easy. At least Orochi had a great build up and context to it.
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>>169439959

It's useful near the beginning of the game, but it becomes negligible after the second region, if that long.
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>>169438912
>did whole level up to final shrine
>missed a kodama
>still had almost all elixers so i didn't rest at final shrine because i wanted to backtrack without respawning mobs

>turn on next day
>find out it only saves if you rest at shrines
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>>169418546
>All those shit percentage abilities
Time to reforge, anon.
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New player here just got to first boss. Is it worth fighting the revenants? I've just been skipping them
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>>169439959
that's what i thought too
we were both wrong

>5 piece set bonus is essentially giving me half on one percent, damage increase
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>>169440121
honestly I don't understand Hundred Eyes.

>entire game you're fighting mythological creatures
>suddenly random creature not found in mythology and more resembles a Beholder than anything
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>>169440693
Fight the ones with red names, some of them drop unique equipment.
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>>169440693
if a revenant is higher level, uses the same weapon you do and it;s purple, you should fight them
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>>169440760
this
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>>169440723
>kelly- the antagonist for the entire game- turns out to be a henchman and probably just a homunculus too

after nobo leaves we should have had a multi part fight with kelly
no one gives a shit about the hydra or john dee
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>>169440972
you already knew from the first mission that Kelley was a henchman considering he was talking to someone else.
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>>169440693

>>169440760

The red ones sometimes have unique gear and also some lore bits when you kill them. Otherwise, just kill them if they have all purple equipment AND you feel that you've been pretty unlucky with drops.
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>>169440693
there is no reason not to just fight them all, especially the ones with 3 or more difficulty rating

free loot and glory which can be used to buy things later in the game
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How to use iai efficiently in combat?
I usually abuse the skill that goes 'nothing personel kid' and deal massive damage from behind. Iai charge is just too slow for my play style unless I'm playing it wrong.
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>can't tranform into any of the girls
0/10 shit game
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>>169441758
generally speaking it's best to knock someone down, full Iai, final blow
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>>169441758
Break their ki. Hit them with a light attack, not a heavy, to knock them down. Iai. Follow up the Iai with a down attack
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How is this fashion? Even though I'm only using two parts of Warrior of the East, it just feels like that's all it is because of how much the chest and legs take up.
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>>169441965
>>169441980
Oh I didn't know you have enough time for an iai after a light attack.
Thanks senpai tachi.
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Is it possible to get an 'A' scaling Dex in a Dual Katana? or is 'C' scaling the max it can get?
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>>169442290
There's something a little more difficult you can do.

Break someone's ki with a combo, then perfect ki pulse into Iai (it has an upgrade that allows you to do this). Fully charge, and you should get the Iai off before they recover. Ki Pulse Iai again while they're on the ground, then Ground Stab, then High Stance Heavy attack them as they get up.

I practiced this on Muneshige, so theoretically, it should work on all humans.
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>>169440693
Kill every single one and become overleveled.
>>
Is it easy to inflict paralysis with the aoe bombs?
>>
Just to be clear, is it worth agonizing over smithing texts in NG at all?

I'm at Demon King Revealed, so I think I'll push through to NG+ so I can upgrade my luck Spirits.
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>>169442484
you can get A for any stat

just keep rolling
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>>169442591
Yea I always follow a up a combo with mid stance instead from behind after a final blow. Sometimes I can follow it up with another combo after a dodge ki pulse.
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>>169442819
Yes its easy but why would you want to? Its a shit status effect. It wears off after you hit them 1 time. Go with poison instead.
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>>169442909

You can't smith max level stuff until the latter half of NG+ anyways. Just go there, use NG+ gear in NG and annihilate only those whose smithing texts you want. It makes it much more bearable.
>>
What am I supposed to be spending my gold on? I've got 250k and I'm not sure what to do with it.
>>
>>169443275
are drop rates for texts for the dojo bosses any different?
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>>169443175
You can get a grapple off of it
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>>169441937
>Okatsu
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>>169443362
Muh 320
>2121 damage to 1566

weh
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>>169443362
save it for reforging
>>
>>169443175
Pretty useful for humanoid enemies or revenant since it gives a free grapple attack. 2 sometimes if they somehow end up within that smoke again.
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>Done mission, black screen loading
>Blackout

FUck me, pls dont corrupt my save
>>
>farming hanzo
>text drops
>get hyped
>is for the Katana I dont use

God damn it. I just want the armor.
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>>169443493
Is that something I'll need in my first run? I don't think I'll be playing NG+, it's a great game and all but my backlog doesn't have time for that.
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>>169443697
You don't need it then.
>>
>tfw still on 1.03 farming azuchi and sometimes shiggy and subaru if I get bored with 2300 AR
Already saved up 30mils gold and 400 cups before the patch so I don't need to farm revenant. Suck my dick, anti-glitch faggots.
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>>169443275
Aye.
But it's tempting to keep a consistent set bonus for the light armor sets.

People stop carrying Eee's spear on revenants and I want the whole set bonus, but I can still get normal drops for the Justice Ministry set off revenants and that side-quest in the castle.

I might go back to the Legendary Strategist set. Unless I want to dive into running medium armor.
>>
Is there any way to prevent Familiarity attack bonuses from downgrading while soul matching?
>>
>Messing around with axes and dual swords to level proficiency for samurai points
>Just using whatever my best 2kats and axe is
>About run number 7 of the foes I was slaying notice that the 2kat I was using was actually two different swords
>Not just slightly different either, completely and wildly different looking swords
WHY DOES THIS MAKE ME HARD?
>>
so tome has changed outfits but she has yet to ask if i thinks it cute also she has yet to ask any questions in general
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>>169443739
In that case is there anything else I can spend my money on, or should I Just disregard it?
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>>169443804
She is NTRing you.
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>>169443815
There is not.
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>>169443950
Gotcha, thanks for the help anon
>>
Best gold farming method?
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>>169443097
That can work on normal enemies, but in my experience the boss humans 180 into block when I try it. I dunno, I haven't tried it as much because I like finding a use for the high stance heavy.
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>>169444212
Run A Request from Ginchyo a lot or kill revenants and sell their drops.
>>
>>169444374
Doesn't work on shiggy or a fast humanoid bosses as far as I have tested. Works on slow bosses like Honda, Sakon, Nobunaga (only when he doesn't have elemental buff) and somehow Magoichi.
>>
>>169443175
because I have a helmet that increases damage dealt to paralyzed enemies by 50% and 30% extra damage for sign of the cross
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>>169443783
Every abilities and attack rating goes down after a soul matching due to familiarity reset. It goes back up again like usual when you max it out.
>>
Does doing ground finishers from behind give you the damage bonus or it only counts when they are standing?
>>
>>169444986
final blows have nothing to do with backstab damage
>>
Damn it I have a clip of a fiend basically tea-bagging me after I die but I've got no idea how to turn my clip into a webm to post it.
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>>169445140
How can he tea bag when there is no crouch button?
>>
Nioh: Razors Edge with playable Hayabusa when?
>>
>>169445364
never hopefully
>>
>>169445140
Literally first result on google you lazy fuck.
>>
>>169444637
I've noticed that Mag isn't actually that fast comparatively. He just has his teleport and a couple of rushdown attacks.
>>
>>169445364
I wouldn't be surprised if we got Hayabusa as a transform option as DLC.
>>
>>169445216
I overloaded a fiend at the same time another one jumped out and slashed me to kill me, I assume that with me dying the first fiend couldn't go through his entire animation of falling over but kept falling to his knees over and over instead.
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>>169406229
>fucking Nohime
>pure
/eagg/ called, you're all retards
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>>169445764
it's just the one anon that made the chart that's retarded, other people have called him out on it many times but he's left it the same.
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>>169445626
This isnt Warframe.
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>>169445764
>implying one nigga's dumb thing represents us all

Btw Zhuge Liang is the greatest tactician and Guan Yu did nothing wrong :^)
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Anyone know what are those?
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>>169446036
I don't even go to /eagg/ and your statement triggered the fuck outta me.
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>>169445764
>/eagg/
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I have 1kat, 2kat and spear still sitting at 500k proficiency. Do I get more samurai points if I max them out?
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>>169446067

One is punching an amrita fiend to death, the other is for punching a one-eyed oni to death.
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>>169445865
Got people saying she's pure, and people saying she's not.

Not everyone can be happy.

Suppose we'll have to define purity.
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So what are the movement penalty weight% is the same as souls?
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>>169446258
What the fuck is this?
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>>169446498
Your dodge is determined by your STANCE, not your WEIGHT, however, the higher your equip load, the worse your agility (A, B, or C, A is the best). Agility determines dodge distance, ki recovery speed, and I believe, to a mild degree, invincibility on dodge
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>>169446568
average discussion in /eagg/
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>>169446352
thanks
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>>169446258
>that lu bu
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>>169446745

*tips kasa*

Don't worry about it, baka gaijin
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MIND. BLOWN.
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>>169446418
You're right, we need a definition of purity.

purity (n)
1: freedom from adulteration or contamination
2: freedom from immorality, especially of a sexual nature
3: not being raised as a concubine ninja slut with the express purpose of assassinating Nobunaga Oda
4: not falling for Nobunaga Oda and indulging in his sadism herself
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>>169445598
For some reason my vid is fucking small as fuck and I have no idea how to make it larger.
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>>169446909
>redditors are fucking idiots
And water is wet.
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>>169446418
Pure as in loyal.
As in like, political loyalty.
As in, sure there has been mistresses and rape here and there, but if your clan has to go to war, Ginchiyo will be on the front lines with Shiggy.
As in the two of you can be figureheads together.
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>>169446948
so tome is the only pure waifu
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>>169446909
>The average poster on Reddit is fucking retarded
Who would have guessed?
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>>169431242
You could use one piece of kaido set or any other set with good 2 piece bonus
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>>169446728
>some autist tells me to go away when I bring actual discussion just because it's not his favorite series

>>169437532
it's okay anon, I stood in place and let myself fall to my death because I was confused as to why they weren't following me
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what determines the extraction rate of extraction talismans, or is it a fixed amount?
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>>169444898
I also mean like scaling with stats like spirit/stamina/etc.
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Best way to maximize the infinite XP glitch before I patch?
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>>169446909
Nioh taught me that Japan was a country, had to research it a bit, but it turns out there are more countries than just the United States, crazy!
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>>169445140
>>169445749
Hope this works.
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>>169447856
fucking kek
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>>169447856
Aaaaayyyyyy
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So what's the best spear in the game?
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>>169448064
My bepis : DDD
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>>169447768
It's said not to be affected by amrita gain, as it's not amrita on kill. So getting 4 of them in the stairs is best maximization, which will take about 7-8 days of afking to get max level from 250.
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>>169448064

The best spear is the one you find most ugly
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>>169448227
But anon I like all the spears
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>>169448227
The best spear is any spear refashioned into a Giant Frog Spear
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I just realized this is the same guy with Suzaku.
Guess we'll get the bird as dlc?
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>>169448454

Even the runkah?
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>>169447856

holy shit literally the first thing that came to mind
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>>169448512
Try reading Suzaku's flavor text some time
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>>169448512
No.

Did you fucking pay attention?! That bird IS Suzaku you fucking dipstick. It digevolved when he sacrificed himself.
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>>169448526
All of them
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>No dual pistols in game
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>>169448512

The bird is just Suzaku's form before it's reborn.

So a definite "maybe"
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What time do Twilight Missions reset?
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>>169448734
1600s, jackass. You could have twelve pistols, they'd still only fire one shot each before you'd need to take an ice age to reload.
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>>169448592
>>169448624
>>169448802
Oh, right.
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>>169448825
1am EST
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>>169448883
Enemies use them though.
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>>169448883
He says, regarding a game where you reload a musket by twirling it.
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does tengen kujaku's defense buff overwrite carnage talisman's defense debuff?
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>>169448883
Have you not played the sub mission with the Yatagarasu guy?
His assholes have dual pistols. It's fucking obnoxious.
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>>169448883

>1600s, jackass. You could have a matchlock rifle, they'd still only fire one shot before you'd need to take an ice age to reload.

Besides, the Saika use them against you. The "they weren't invented yet" doesn't work.
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>>169448974
Nothing overwrites it, it's unique
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>>169448734
DLC nigga. It's time for fucking Date crazy time
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so it's pretty much guaranteed that the new dlc weapon type will be claws right?
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which weapons come with (change to spirit A)?
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>>169449156
steel talisman does
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>>169449389
i thought it just counteracted it
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>>169449303
Dual pistols have priority because enemies use them.
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>>169449303
No. It'll either be dual pistols because the files are already in the game with animations, or 2spear because Yukimura memes.
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>>169449357
the sword you get for beating orochi
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>Redditfags mind blown that the Sengoku period actually happened, and wasn't some fantasy lord of the rings shit
>Not over the Tenkai is Akechi Mitsuhide reveal

In a game that still disappoints me in what they cherry-pick about William Adams, that was actually kinda cool to see.
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>reach post-game, decide to try out the mission with nobunaga and noh
>get my ass kicked multiple times
>decide to try the sloth talisman I've been hearing so much about
>trivializes the fight
>play with it a little bit more
>already getting bored of it
What other Onmyo skills are decent? I usually roll with Rejuvenation/Guardian Spirit Talismans. Had Carnage for a while too, but found that I rarely ever used it.
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>>169449606
all onmyo is decent
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>>169449303
We're getting sextuple katanas; because Date Masamune confirmed in April.
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>Even though I have a stockpile of ammo, I can't restock my ammo at Shrines like elixirs
Fucking what
What's the point
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>Want to make a secondary character
>Didn't want to risk erasing the primary one
>Patch note: "Hey we fixed it"
>"Mostly...it still could happen potentially"
>"Roll the dice, motherfucker"
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>>169449829
we aren't, 6kat is the dumbest thing ever.
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>>169449606
carnage is better with 6 casts and the instant cast mystic
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So I've been putting an even amount of points into each stat, and I'm level 70 now. Am I doing this terribly wrong, or does it not really matter all that much?
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>>169449829
>Sympathized with foreign christians
REMOVE DATE
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>>169449606
Weakness + Carnage = high-quality lube.

Luckbringer is good for farming.

Kekkai is good if you wear heavy armor.

Oasis is great for co-op.

Protection gets me rock fucking hard.

Extraction + Pleiadas = Living Weapon for pretty much ever (or forever if combined with lvl 30 Shinka, if Oro's video is up to date.)

Pretty much all of it is good.
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>>169449965
welcome to japan
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i might have figured out why we have so few kusarigama sets.

it's because we are going to get a shit ton of them from fighting the Sanada 10 braves in the dlc.
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>>169449971
>sengoku basara hurts my butt
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>>169449825
>>169449997
>>169450036
Thanks for the input.
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>>169450036
>Weakness
it's only a 13% increase in damage taken
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>>169450016
He didn't really though, the second he couldn't use them as a power-play he dropped em' like a rock.
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>>169450108
That's some weird Kiss lineup, I thought they were only 4 members.
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>>169449829
The promo art of season pass pretty much confirm that he is using 2kats.
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>>169450234
lmao? test it, it's usually about double damage and it stacks multiplicatively with carnage
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>>169450234
13% of 1k is 13k. Then add Carnage on top of it, then hit them from behind.

Then use the Katana's "murder them from behind" mystic art.

I'm dealing around 4.5k damage to NG+ Nigaboo.
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>>169450280
why would the TEN braves only have 4 members?
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>>169450386
>13k
1.3k
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Is there any point to holding on to the locks that give skill points?
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>>169450313
>le captain obvious
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found some really good porn of fuku
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61636265
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>>169450471
The same reason there's 12 gold saints in saint seiya but only 9 are active.
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>>169450541

Nope. Consume them immediately, unless your autism makes you have one in your inventory at all times.
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What is the best mixed set for 1kat?
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>>169450595
Noice
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>>169450595
>expecting me to sign up for a site to view it
Come on, son.
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>>169450349
it is 13%, someone extensively tested all the onmyo skills and onmyo powers effect.
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>>169450759
13% is nothing to sneeze at.

Regardless, prove it.
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So Japan's best soldier dlc = Yukimura?
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>>169450726
you're loss anon
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I just beat The Defiled Castle, being doing mostly mid-stance 1kat no magic whatever

When I pick up a decent spear I'm going to respec into that
What stats should I be building up for spears? So far I've just being doing 50/50 body/heart. I'm thinking for spears maybe 4/1?
What set should I be looking out for in the meantime? They all seem to do the same shit so I've just been rolling with West
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>>169450595
Holy shit, our prayers are answered!
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When forging weapons or armor is it possible to make 150 +2 or higher? I've only made 150 +1 gear so I'm leaning towards no. Am I wrong?
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>>169450879
It's gonna be Tom Cruise.
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>>169450879
Yukio Mishima
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>>169450726
>Not already having a pixiv account for high quality porn
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>>169451095
that's the boshin war though 200 years too early.
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>>169450595
Even fujo is infecting nioh now? Fuck this gay earth man.
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>>169451219
Foolish last samurai was transported to the past thanks to Aku.
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>>169451230
There's more art like that than Fuku and Okatsu combined.
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>>169451230
Why would anyone but fujos do nioh art?
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what % does quick change scroll put your health at when you take fatal damage? 25%? 30%?
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does Giant Frog drop a smithing text for his spear or do I just have to kill him until I get one?
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Why are so many revenants wearing divine kodama bowls in NG+?
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So between Tornado, piercing rain, chidori, and kick which should be getting priority/favorable treatment?

Also how much does stability extend the range of attacks? I have very little difficulty with my spear bouncing just because I can very easily rely on narrow attacks so it's really just the range I would use much of.

Lastly are either of the alternative 1kat Iai skills better than the default? Is there any reasonable use for sword of meditation?
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>>169451471
amrita farming
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>>169451471
Kodama bowls increase kodama blessing by 30% at max familiarity, so better amrita gain or drop rate
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>>169451430
>I just have to kill him until I get one
I can confirm that he does drop the weapon.
Keep at it.

Don't agonize over the text, it just has earth damage, and isn't a part of a set.
Refashion whatever spear you want to look like one.
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>>169414330
Kingo's
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Do Kodama blessings apply to me when I get summoned for co-op or am I wasting a slot equipping the kodama bowl?
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>>169451581
I know he drops the spear, I want to forge one though, it generally has higher damage than set bonus ones
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Quick Change+Hakakiri doesnt work anymore. How do I get myself into critical mode without enemies around?
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>>169451701
Okay, cool.

His side mission fight isn't hard, so you have your grind set out for you. Good luck.
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>>169451709
fire, falling off high things, I think your own landmines?
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Best way to farm for the -1 set Magatama?
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>>169451676

Wearing a cute little bowl hat is NEVER wasting a slot.
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>>169451968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIikwfR-yOs
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>>169451968
trail of the master if you can still glitch through the wall else request from ginchiyo, get all the chests where the old charm can spawn.
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>>169451968

Bath house. Don't know if they patched out the clipping glitch, but even without it you get three attempts in like a minute of playtime. You spend more time loading than you do playing.

I got mine from just normally playing Isle of Demons. I'm sure you can get one normally just from normal play.
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>>169451676
Seeing this post just occurred to me how retarded I was that I thought I have to equip a full fanatic set just for a real Amrita run when I have +58% Amrita when using LW.
>actually invested a ton in Stamina for it
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>>169452135
Wall doesn't work anymore
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So theoretically you need to be over level 400 for an optimal build for 1 weapon?

99 in each of the 3 stats the weapon scales with naturally then a 4th change to attack stat thats not the original 3?

Kusarigama for instance scales with:
B+ DEX
C+ Skill
D+ Body

so for max damage I would want an inheritable A+ in either Heart/Stam/STR and 99 in dex skill body and the chosen stat?
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>>169452135
request from Ginchiyo is garbage even post wall glitch nerf. stop fucking suggesting it for magatama farming
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>>169452203

Trail of the master is still the most efficient, just in terms of rolls/minute.
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>>169452295
even ignoring the amount of rolls, the fact that Ginchiyo can roll blue or yellow accessories makes it infinitely worse, Trail of the Master is always purple or higher
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>>169452218

The scaling is a flat bonus on top of the weapon's natural scaling. You want it to be one of the weapon stats for max efficiency in terms of levels.
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Do we know where and what Sasaki Kojiro was doing around this time? Could he appear in one of the DLCs?
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>>169452514
is it confirmed its on top of though? isnt it just maxed at A+

when I have aya komori on I get A in ninjutsu if I add B or anything to my ranged weapon the stat sheet then shows A+ and no more
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I'm planning to respec to:

15 Body
20/25 Heart (3kat user)
10 stamina (Light and medium armor)
5/10 strength (is 5 too low for good medium armors?)
20/25 Skill (3kat user)
10/15 Dex (I've become used to 15 here, not sure if lower is ok)
10/15 Magic (Haven't yet done vet training thing yet, not sure if worth doing that in the first place for 3kat user)
15 Spirit (I like the bonuses of course but idk what a good number is)

I do occasionally use kusa and spear when I get bored and wanna dick around but it's definitely not my main setup.

I plan to get the obvious things higher eventually but im only about halfway through the game right now, hence the semi low number. I know stats don't really matter but i'd like to at least get it somewhat right even if it's not min/max

Any advice for me?
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>>169452514
so how does a weapon handle a change to attack for a stat that it doesn't even have naturally?

is it even worth doing something like that?
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>>169452269
it takes less than a minute even with the worst rng, has a guaranteed accessory payout, and gets you tons of gold and amrita to boot.

the only better quest is The Devil's Daughter (I think that's what it was) which is just as fast, has a guaranteed accessory payout (and higher chance of + level accessories) and gives even more gold

>>169452390
I've done the ginchiyo one tons of times and have never seen below a purple from it
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>>169452575

Not far enough yet but haven't people stated one of the NPC's you see if pretty clearly Musashi? Maybe he has flavor text giving away whether he beat Sasaki with the oar or not yet?

Didn't Sasaki just drink, train and bang bitches anyways?
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Is the +10 ki recovery passive for dual swords worth getting?
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>>169452575
I tihnk we'll see him in dlc. If they went so far as putting Musashi in we might get to see him.
It's like Team ninja are really big fans of Vagabond till they added Sekishusai, Inei and Musashi. It's a pretty high chance. Maybe we'll get to see Ittousai as well.
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>>169451090
Anyone?
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>>169452973
maybe if you have 300 toughness and a perfect guard ki reduction roll
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>>169452575
he's dead by the time the dlc takes place.
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wait who was musashi?
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>>169453081
>Characters that are historically dead have shown up to duel you from beyond the grave

Yes, and?
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>>169452929
Trail of the Master takes less than a minute no RNG to get to the area in question and has 3 accessory rolls each time

the amrita/gold bonuses are literally the only thing that make it more desirable, and you can get money/amrita anywhere
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>>169452295
I still use the bath house as well. Three rolls in a short amount of time with little to no fighting is good. It also doesn't take as long.
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>>169453240
What is google?
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>>169453420

He means which npc in Nioh was based off of Musashi.
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>>169453241
he was asking what he was doing during the time period, i never said he couldn't be turned into a fiend or ghost.
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>>169453469
The one that is literally Musashi.
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>>169452983
How is including some of the most famous historical Japanese warriors an indication that they like Vagabond, a series about one of the most famous swordsmen in Japanese history?
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>>169453471
>yojimbo-nioh has no straw hats.jpg
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>Have to run through the whole battlefield mission just to farm Shima Sakon
>Not even a spear user but I want to have all the smithing texts
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>>169453767
Farming Sakon is easy as shit. You run past enemies, gib the Leper in ten seconds, run past enemies, gib sakon
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>>169453767
Rest at the shrine closest

Run to the boss

Quit without saving if it doesn't drop. You'll be at the last shrine and Shima will be alive with different RNG
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>Sword and Kurisagama user
>Keep forgetting I have a secondary weapon when I use sword

Wonderful game so far though. I think I'm at the halfway mark (Fought Mr. Neko and felt very bad when he died ;_; )
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Did Musashi have a significant role in western campaign historically? Becaue I think it's such a waste of famous VA for him and we also get a unique headband from him.
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>>169454018
>Fought Mr. Neko and felt very bad when he died ;_;
Did you even pay attention on what he said? Even hanzo couldn't give a shit.
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>>169454038
Musashi did basically nothing of any relevance to the war. He just went around dueling people and being such a beast ass pimp that he used two swords because he was strong enough physically to do it. Nigga beat his rival Sasaki to death with an oar in a 'duel'
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>>169454165
I still felt bad though.
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>>169454018
the cat doesn't die
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>>169454038
he was at sekigahara but he had crazy bad luck and never managed to do much on any battlefield except get wounded by a rock once.
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>>169454165

We have feelings though, even if Hanzo didn't.

He was a neat character imo. A bit of a guide that left before his time. It was a bummer.
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>>169454018
He's back at the end.

>>169454165
I thought Hanzo couldn't see spirits.
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>>169454209
>Mystic Art duel
>1kat
significant bonus when using the wooden katana
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>>169454290
>>169454165
Hanzo can't see spirits. He has no idea Nekomata existed
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>>169454165

Hanzo can't see spirits. You have to be lucky and be blessed naturally like William or train super hard spiritually like Tenkai and Fuku.
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>>169454038

In the Vagabond manga he was like 16 at Sekigahara and basically fell under some corpses and hit his head on a rock. Woke up the next day and vowed to be the only historical dual wielder we know him as or whatever.
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>>169454385
But Ieyasu is able to see spirits right? He mentioned something about his cat being speechless or something.
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>>169454481
I think Ieyasu can see spirits, but I'm not positive. Hanzo makes a remark about his cat acting weirdly, which is be because Nekomata had died and left it a normal cat
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>>169454385
>>169454426

So the Spirits behind pretty much all the battle worthy characters are only seen by William and mages? Ii couldn't see Tiger? Kuroda couldn't see Mizuchi? etc.
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>>169454581
No, if you have a guardian spirit, you can see other spirits
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>>169454465
the vagabond (and the books/movies it's based on) characterization of musashi is such trash. they completely skip over the tricky "do any dirty trick to win" aspect and just have him be super talented.
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>>169454581
We can assume that at least those who use their spirits in battle at least knew they existed, like Tadakatsu
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>>169453240
he was the dude you help out in the mission you get after you beat the dual swordsman in the dojo.
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>>169454481
>>169454541
I have to imagine he can.

Whenever Nekomata showed up, he would run his mouth and just talk and talk and talk.

If Ieyasu mentions his cat being quiet, I imagine he saw Nekomata but he wasn't talking.
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>>169454662

Yea. I had kinda minimized that myself but its always been there.

I liked the manga though. Good art and Musashi is a cool character in the end.
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>>169454541

Ieyasu can definitely see them. He makes a remark whether or not William sees something strange when they first meet, and at the end he said that "Even his guardian cat is speechless."

I like to imagine that those who possess the spirits can also see them, but that might not be the case. The ones that use their powers in battle sure as shit can. Like, Tashibana's wife didn't use any of its powers, so she can't see her Ghost Pupper, but he certainly can because he summons it actively in your duel.
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>>169454662
>they completely skip over the tricky "do any dirty trick to win"
The Yaiba version of Musashi was like that.
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>>169454670

Right. Tadakatsu. Ii. etc used them but there were still others who didn't have any attacks with them like Ginchiyo, both Kuroda, etc.
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>>169454658
Then why would Hanzo not know about nekomata or w/e its name is?
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>>169454818
the real musashi was like,

read his history or even just the book of 5 rings. to him duels were 99% psychology 0.5% luck and 0.5% swordsmanship.
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>>169454935
Hanzo didn't have a guardian spirit, his cat did
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>>169454935
Nekomata wasn't his guardian spirit, it was a spirit that followed him around
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>>169454935
it's not his spirit, it just posses his cat sometimes.
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>>169454935
Because Hanzo is just a normie, like the Sparrow/Phoenix old guy.

I don't believe everybody with a Guardian spirit were aware they had one, as well.

Also Nekomata was not a guardian spirit, and was most likely a neutral Yokai.
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>>169455017
>>169455043
>>169455054
That changes my opinion of Hanzo then. How much of a shit can you be that a guardian spirit would possess your cat and not you?
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>>169455263
His dedication to Ieyasu is so utterly and completely encompassing that he has no spirituality.
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>>169455263
Guardian Spirits seem to choose people based on their purpose, ideals, and actions.

Hanzo was just a really loyal ninja is all. No real struggles, goals, or achievements to attract a guardian spirit.
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>>169452856

I want to bump this. I could use the advice.
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>>169455402
Hanzo's cat has probably seen some shit, or better yet, his cat is probably from a lineage Hattori cats and Nekomata is his cat's equivalent of a frog dad.
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>>169455402
what made otani get a cute moth?
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>>169455334
Not to start an argument with you anon, but if he was that devoted to his lord he would have tried to kill William as he was instructed.
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>>169455726
Doubts, for a variety of reasons, not of Ieyasu's decision, per se, but in William's worth to the Tokugawa (soon to be) shogunate. Some friendship too
>>169455703
If I recall right, it's a spirit of death, or justice, or something
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>>169455658
I believe somewhere in the game (probably right after you meet Nekomata in the after mission text) it says the Nekomata isn't a guardian spirit but isn't a proper Yokai either.

Seeing as he turns into the White Tiger, that would make him a celestial beast, but my niplore isn't polished enough to know if that is the real difference.

>>169455703
Otani was RIGHTEOUS and wanted to bring peace to Japan despite his pain/disease that would normally make people just lay down and die. Considering how other people got their guardian spirits, I'd say that qualifies

Side note, I need drawfags to scribble up Otani surfing a big ass wave.
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>>169455703
Righteousness
Moths might be associated with death? and so it would be fitting that one came for a leper that was clinging to life
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>>169455726

I dunno, but Hanzo's going to have a lot of explaining to do when William returns to Japan.
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>>169455658
Anon, the cat spirit was Byakko. It was literally one of the four heavenly spirit animals. Byakko, the white tiger of the west, the tiger of autumn.

>>169455998
Byakko is the western celestial beast. Suzaku is the south and summer. Genbu is the north and winter. Seiryu is the east and spring.

Seiryu was shown in Date's DLC promo image.

The time for Byakko to become a guardian probably just hasn't arrived yet.
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>first time I see "Yokai illustrations"
>oh shit will we see ancient-style drawings of the monsters?
>just their models instead

missed opportunity desu
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>>169456017
Moths are the messengers of death in Japanese folklore. They're the ones that arrive to guide spirits. There's a superstition that when a large moth lands on your window sill or door frame that someone in your family or close to you has died.
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>>169456128
It would've been cool to have both
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>>169452970
>>169452983
They do have Musashi in-game, after doing the dual swords proficiency mission, the dude sends you off in a mission in the Omi or Sekigahara region to help a man who is determined to kill all the Yokai or something. You help him kill a whole bunch of Yokai and then he greets you as Musashi or Miyamoto, I forgot and then gives you "Takezo's Headband" which is a red version of that pink headband you get from another set.
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>>169455726
william would just come back to life though
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>>169456112
I don't think Nekomata or his White Tiger form are Byakko, but do serve the same general idea.

Tigers, in particular white tigers, tend to represent the west as it relates to Japan (presumably in part because they are primarily in India and China, which is west by Japan's standards
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>>169455867
I chalk it up to him making a judgement call in the end like you say, but he did lie to Ieyasu who saw through the act and thought nothing of it. At least nothing to the point where there were ramifications.

On a different subject, what is everyone up to at the moment? I recently beat ng+ and am currently farming smithing texts. Working on getting the axe from Yasuke so I can finish that set out.
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>>169456246
funny enough, when you rescue Musashi, his english text says Musashi, but his Japanese voice says Takezo
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>>169456342
hanzo doesn't know that.
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>>169456374
I'm cleaning up the titles list. I'm not looking forward to trying to perfect the Orochi fight

If I hit a wall with that, I'm just going to farm smithing texts.
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>>169456596
i did orochi crusher, it's not hard just use living weapon and keep it going with spirit stones.
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is there any historical basis to the Obsidian Samurai? Not exactly as it happened, but Africans being bought by Japanese and then enstated as samurai?
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>>169456356
It literally becomes Byakko in the boss battle anon. He's registered as Byakko in the yokai index.
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>>169455998
Guardian spirits are just a game mechanic anyway. They're mostly just minor deities.

I will be really disappointed if it's confirmed that Byakko is just a "western gaijin" joke.

>>169456112
No, he became something identified as Byakko.
You're delving into some speculative shit on what that possibly means.
Nekomatas are a yokai, and it's not a huge surprise that a cat hanging around the Giant Toad ninjas might become a nekomata, even if it isn't Hanzo's pocket cat itself.

And like, the four beasts are something brought over from mainland Asia.

So maybe you can imagine that Neko had the Amrita to assume a more powerful cat spirit role, and that role was Byakko? I don't really care.

>>169456356
>his White Tiger form are Byakko, but do serve the same general idea.
Well first, Bai Hu/Byakko literally means "White Tiger", so in a sense they ARE the same thing, it's just inconsistent localization of the names.

But other than that yes, we're starting to nitpick a video game's mishmash of different folklores and game mechanics.
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>>169456374

Done a few missions in NG+. I'm just doing them them in order. Almost done with the first region.

I do the full stages because I enjoy playing the game. Plus I like being able to just work my way to the end instead of scouring every nook and cranny for Kodamas holy shit
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>>169456705
yes, yasuke was a real African samurai who served nobunaga. he fought in important battles and was at honnoji temple with nobunaga when the temple was burned down
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>>169456705

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

It turns out they WAS samurai and sheeeeeit.
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>>169456214
The only thing moths remind me is that one moth doujin.
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So what's stronger, lvl 160 gear or 150+10 gear?
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>>169457007

>>169457007

NEW
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>>169456761
The game refers to the cat as Byakko in the Japanese version as well anon. The difference between the English and Japanese is that the English says the amrita fiends turned it into Byakko, and the Japanese version says nekomata revealed its true form to subjugate the amrita fiends.
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How do I get change attack to skill on my 1kat? Just spent 5 million reforging and got nothing.
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>>169456761
I find it weird that they called Nekomata Byakko when the cat just got possessed by Aratama spirits. I like to imagine it's not Byakko's true form, maybe we'll get it on the upcoming dlc's.

>>169457048
Oh so the same thing with Suzaku then.
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>>169456705
Yasuke was real and was a very trusted friend to Nobunaga, but his story isn't typical of most Africans brought to Japan
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>>169456596
>>169456670
Seems like a good tip right there, I'll have to keep that in mind myself.

8 purples and not one of them the smithing text.
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>>169457048
>Japanese version says nekomata revealed its true form to subjugate the amrita fiends.
Oh, huh.
That's still a reasonably intuitive read of that scene, good to have it confirmed.

Okay, our Nekomata is Byakko.
A weird one, I guess, that doesn't look like a tiger much at all.
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>>169456374
It's flat out stated to be Byakko in the yokai encyclopedia. However, for the three other guardians to be legit spirits in their own right while Byakko is just a corrupt nekomata doesn't seem right, so I'd not be shocked if another character gets a different Byakko.
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>>169456772
Fuck Kodamas, they were the first thing I took care of right off the bat.
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>>169457350
Where you using divine fragments? They tend to give better results when you reforge.
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>Not putting uruboros as one of guardian spirit in the game
ONE FUCKING JOB.
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>>169458620
Eh, there's enough of a gameplay-story compromise where that was never going to happen. Why would William even want anything to do with Oruboros anyway, or why would he want anything to do with William?

Even Mothboy tells you to fuck off.
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>>169458956
William uses Uruboros in the epilogue you idiot
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>>169458956
Willy absorbed uroboros into him and utilized its ability to infiltrate tower of london. That scene is a good enough reason to put it as one of usable guardian spirit. Make it's talisman absorb amrita like Kelly does and that should be enough. Abilities may include stealth and some element boosting things.
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where is the best place to get Saisetsu-jin's sake?
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If Ogress one-shots me with pretty much everything, is it time to add more body?
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>>169437532
I was half asleep while blitzing through way of strong and streaming so a friend could watch.
Apparently Kelly managed to grab ohko me twice making me lose 4m amrita at some point, or so he told me.
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>>169447840
Excuse me? Japan has nothing to do with glorious Zipangu
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>>169460196
Sounds like you just need better armor. I cleared strong with a whopping 17 body to activate armor skills.
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>>169459567
Omi region side mission from yoshiteru gives you two sake per run and the mission can be cleared within a minute or so. Need to clear 2kat master dojo for the mission to show up.
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>>169462517
the one with Musashi?
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