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Who Prime edition
previous thread: >>168971659

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries


>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/DZc7JO4.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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Hooray
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New thread, new life. Maybe there's hope left.
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Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not med students. /wfg/ use the (you)s, but they are mere tresspassers. Only I, TierQueer, know the true power of the Maths. My Arguments were cut in half, destroyed, but through my Rosa Parks impression, the Maths called to me. It brought me here and here I was ''''''objectively'''''' reborn. We cannot blame these creatures, they are being led by a false sense of security, an impression they are not pure shitters. Behold the /wfg/, come to literally scavenge and ''''''''desecrate''''''' my sacred pastebins. My brothers, did I not tell of this day? Did I not prophesize ''''this'''' moment? Now, I will stop them with my smug anime pictures. Now I am changed, reborn through the power of the Pastebin. Forever bound to the Maths. Let it be known, if the /wfg/ want true salvation, they will lay down their puny arguments, their (You)s and wait for the Baptism of my Pastebins. It is time. I will teach these tresspassers the redemptive power of my smug_animu.png. They will learn its simple truth. The /wfg/ are lost, and will resist. But I, TierQueer, will cleanse this place of their impurity.
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Grineer potato skins when?
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>>169071526
According to riven dispositions, my Aksomati is a shit weapon :^)
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Which of Banshee Prime's stats will be boosted?
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>>169071646
Like volt, armor most deffo. I hope it's not shit.

>>169071023
nigger you what.
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Ok. Enough sorties for me.
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>only a few people believe in manners when trading
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>>169071604
Hilarious how people are plain ignoring them and instead trying to pay out the ass for astiletto rivens instead.

I mean I did both but my aksomati's demolish my akstiletto's its not even a competition.
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>>169071845
Shitty meme
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>>169071128
>>169071153
>>169071242

Let me correct myself since this has been an eye opener.

I'm not gonna use the tonkor, not because splash damage but because pugs are so bad and notorious for using it, that the people I come across using it die on Venus and Earth when I'm doing my syndicate stuff.

My point original point still stands, it's a scrub weapon due to the sheer fact that its so powerful and easy to get that I see it as a bane or something to look out for when playing with people. I.e my original comparison to the Drake Sword from Dark souls.

Going back to my first question on which one seems better suited to take on crowds; The penta or the Synoid(by extention their syndicate counterparts), which one is better viable later on in levels?
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>>169072014
The Simulor is even more of a Drake sword than the Tonkor though
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>>169072116
explain further, in what way?
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>>169072014
I'll give you points for sticking with it anon.
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>>169072116
Except the Drake Sword is bad because it suddenly turns to shit halfway through the game, and players discover that it was a crutch and they're totally screwed.

The Simulor is always good
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>>169072228
They're about the same difficulty to acquire but the Simulor takes even less effort to wipe out a room
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>>169072228
They're about the same difficulty to acquire but the Simulor takes even less effort to wipe out a room.
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>>169072014
Synoid is an even bigger scrub weapon.
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>>169072014
>>169072385
>Strong aoe weapons are scrub weapons
Only scrubs complain about things being "scrub weapons" in a fucking PvE chinese rice farming simulator.
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I have a question. What's the affinity difference between soloing Akkad and doing it in a team with a Mirage/Spamulor?
Is it exp-wise worth running solo, or should I just put up with it?
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>>169072548
If you have a booster you will get lvl 30 in 1-15 waves instead of 1-20.
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>>169072548
more players = more enemies = more exp
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I also have a question:
What is your guy's favorite type of endless to run when collecting traces/ducat fodder?
I'm thinking interception is best, but even at all 4 constantly up I don't know how long it is, never timed it.
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>>169072014
If you want to use the Tonkor just use the Tonkor. You're allowed to own more than 1 weapon. If you want a weapon that will condition you to perform better use the Lex till you can get a Lex Prime. The lex prime has a low ammo count and long reload speed but amazing damage per shot and it scales into endgame quite easily without cheapening early game content.
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>>169071558
8/10
made me laugh
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>>169072014
Hoo boy, fuck off will ya? Elitist cunts like yourself are toxic and annoying.
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>Syndicate mission is in the void
>Half the tokens are behind stupid activated doors that won't open
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>Devs say they fix something
>Test it out
>It's more broken than before
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>>169072972
Defense. Everyone's close enough that you're also getting everyone else's affinity kills.
Makes for marginally faster weapon leveling.
Piss easy too, the enemies come to your team, your team wholesale slaughters them. Can get a little boring.

Mastery fodder in general is tedious though--I mean, I've taken to switching to Nidus, bringing shit weapons, and stomping the shit out of everything on defense missions without bothering to upgrade my weapons at all. 2-4 high level 25 round defense missions and it's back for more shit weapons.

Fun times.
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Elements should have been made with AOE and non-AOE damage in mind. That way bosses and stuff could have resistances that are strong to elements that are commonly associated with AOE, or alternatively just distinguishing between single target or AOE damage.

That way the Scrubulor and Tonkor won't be abused so much and people will actually have to learn how to move their mouse.
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So I just traded an Arcane Storm, Hemlock, and Coil (only one I cared about was the Storm, and I have a backup) for a bit over 300 plat. How hard did I get jewed?
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>>169073770
But according to the pastebin, I thought you don't get affinity for warframe kills (from a maxed frame)
Wouldn't it be faster to farm for affinity with a low level defense while actually shooting your guns? I'm asking because I don't actually know what the fastest way to level guns/melee up is.
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>>169073770
I don't really need for affinity at all, just the prime parts and traces, but If that works for you rock on dude.

>Taken to switching to nidus
You mean you don't just run nidus and have fun stomping?
How lame
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>>169072493
scrub weapons are noob traps like the Simulor. The tonkor is not a scrub weapon because it is legit good.
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>>169074226
What's wrong with ez-cheese weapons? If I'm farming shit I'm going to do it as fast as possible.
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>>169074692
Because idiots bring them into Sorties and high-level missions too.

I don't mind anything other than the Simulor or WoF-Ember, personally. They are just way too brain dead. At least with the Tonkor you have to aim a bit.
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>>169074824
>Kela boss sortie a few days ago
>out of curiosity, attempt to solo with Slowva
>4-forma corrosive Hek does chip damage, even with CP
>die to Kela's rockets as Nova is paper thin
>frustrated, switch to 6-forma Tonkor
>This time, Slowva absolutely rapes Kela as she doesn't even have enough time to jump onto the walls for rockets

It's not like the only weapon I use is the Tonkor--gotta raise that mastery after all. But it feels like under MR8 you don't have access to hard-enough hitting weapons to bring along to Sortie 3. I'd like to be able to use the Tonkor less, but it's a crutch I'm gonna have to lean on a while longer.
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>>169075850
>no "featuring dante from devil may cry" sticker
worthless.
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>>169074692
>>169074824
Generally bringing them to a sortie isn't so bad, unless it's a radiation hazard and they end up wiping the objective or the team.

But that's the main problem, using weapons where you don't even need to pretend to aim leads to people just being on autopilot through missions and not paying attention to anything.
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>>169075850
Why did they stick anal beads to Chroma's sword?
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>>169076185
Fits with Chroma's theme of sex toys. First he's a dragon dildo and now he has beads.
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>>169076010
>>169076185
better?
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>>169076596
Much.
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>>169076596

>"why is wiggler ther-"
>notice giant anal beads
>sidesinorbit.jpg
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>>169071558
Long ago in a distant board I, TeeQuu, the build posting master of mathematics unleashed an unspeakably objective pastebin! But, a foolish anonymous poster wielding a calculator stepped forth to oppose me.
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>>169075850
>>169076596
just noticed the herpes
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>>169077138
He must have been spending too much time with Nezha
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Does anyone have a link to the Nezha Ember Bursa lewd?
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>>169074047
your own frame kills still generate xp and your frame gets that much in the normal ratio (100%), all gear still accumulates xp in the same distribution once maxed for the purposes of lenses (and profile tracking if that's not broken) so it can effectively waste that allotment of xp, but yes whether your frame is maxed or not every kill you get with your frame ensures none of that xp goes to your weapons so that's not a good idea if you want to level your gun

the general 25/75 split between your frame and weapons for all other sources than your own frame (100/0 frame/weapons) or own weapon (50/50 frame/just that weapon) kills means that if you want to level a gun really fast, you equip no other weapons and stand near other people killing things
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>>169080062
I think the sugatra deserves a Kingdom Hearts nod.
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Do you think Nehza needs a buff? My autism hates that his "healing fire" is so vague. I wish Firewalker could burn a path through hazards like moa piss or toxic clouds.
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>>169071558
9/11 m8
Made my day.
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>>169080062
>its loss mirrored
holy shit
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>>169080783
When ordis is secretly a big tittied chick "what Tenno, girls can't be legendary warriors too?" after all the fragments, then Wf will truly be animu
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Ded thred
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>>169076104
They tend to be the crappiest players in general anyway though.

Playing an interception mission (sortie 3, eximus, grineer), I am playing as Vauban Prime and I have capped two points alone, and have Bastille over them both. I am covering both points and can pistol snipe into a third to help that guy out.

I can't see the 4th point and the guy defending it is struggling. So along comes an S-Mirage. Where do they go? Directly into my Bastilled point.

>teehee I'll get all the damage

So just for shits and giggles, I stop throwing a bastille over the point they are in. They literally die 5 times within one round, no one bothering to get them up after the second one. After they die the third time, they rage quit.

We go on to complete the required rounds without losing a single point.

^that's just one example, but it is the norm for what I see out of those types of players. It's not just slow reflexes or being on auto pilot. It just plain stupidity, just like the Frost comic talks about.
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>Akkad
I miss draco
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>>169083112
The real problem there are shittards.
A disarmed, slowed, bastilled enemy is worth 20 active ones. Seriously, you don't need to do anything when every enemy on the map is CCd to hell and back.

Back in the day in T4Int Lokies could switch-teleport enemies into water and those enemies couldn't get out, you'd just afk the intercetpion after you fuck around a bit. Later, disarmed enemies couldn't hack int consoles, just slap a few disarms and go grab a cup of coffee or something. After that, Mirage+Blind or 4xHydroid.

Why even do fucking damage if your endgoal is having an easy time with this fuckgame. Me and my buddies endgoal is going semi-afk. My goal is going 100% braindead in this game and I optimize my shit to do exactly that, I enjoy that playstyle, I feel I beat the game by being overprepared/geared.
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ded thred
still got a little space at the bottom
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>>169081206
Dude.

I need more pictures now
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>>169083112
>but it is the norm for what I see
40% retardation from being near you 40% from being console cucks

10% from being a canceroid simulor
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>>169083962
You're missing this
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>>169081206
Someone doesn't know their lore it seems

holy shit if they change it to something like that I'll pop a vein
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>>169083112
>Playing Slova on Sortie Defense
>it's sortie 1
>have a pub rhino and an equinox with me
>both the equinox and the defense target fall down
>rhino goes to revive defense npc
>dies because he didn't iron skin for some reason
>I'm the only one alive and I try to pick up the NPC before we fail
>fucking rhino is in the same spot as him and won't crawl away
>can't revive
>we lose
>rhino blames me for his death against enemies going 1/4 speed
I swapped to solo and cleared all 10 waves with no issues. Now I only pub sortie missions that aren't radiation or anything that requires a modicum of awareness.
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>>169083958
AFK setups are just way to boring, especially when you can use them to farm affinity instead.

That and there is no reason to do long endless shit anymore anyway, so just outright breaking shit no longer holds the same appeal that it used to.

>>169084065
Honestly, PC players tend to be much worse from what I have seen.

>>169084245
>Now I only pub sortie missions that aren't radiation
I do those, specifically, with the highest damage AoE weapons I have. Atomos is my favorite though.
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>ran into gottfaust on Akkad
>he's a valkshitter
>was in the process of his 4th valk prime polarization
>says he has 8 on regular valk too
Why do you shitters listen to this fag?
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>>169084245
Pubs are usually 80% good.
I go Inaros for 200%retardproof.
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>>169084245
>Playing Slova on Sortie Defense

I hate you fuckers, sure its a win but it takes FOREVER.
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>>169084365
Because regardless of his taste he does good work.
and you don't have every frame polarized multiple times just to see what they can do? what a loser
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>>169085010
I like it when pubbing because pub players rarely stay on point anyway so I just let them explore all 30 feet around them.
Also using her 2 to nuke everything nearby clears a good chunk of the enemies needed to wipe out.
I completely understand where you're coming from but I genuinely enjoy stopping everything
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>>169084365
>TQ is mad that someone who actually understands math likes catslut
It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about or someshit.
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>>169084365
He's always been a fag, there's an old image with a bunch of people complaining about warbros back when they were number one and he's the first on that list. He's only here because we're the only ones who bothered to actually use his calculator instead of using warframe-builder.
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While wer're on the subject of shit players:
>Running axi survival
>Be Nidus
>Other players are unranked ash, rhino P, and another nidus, running at rank 8
>Ash goes down a couple times
>Nidus starts laying into him via text, saying "who brings an unranked frame to axi survival"
>no response from the ash
>3 minutes later the nidus starts going down repeatedly
>point out that nidus is no different and that he gains armor as he levels
>he immediately starts heading for extraction, ash and rhino follow
>Game ends, I've got more kills than all of them put togetherX2, with unranked weapons and a single forma for corrosive projection on nidus
>Unranked ash has double the other nidus's kills despite going down like 9 times in 10 minutes
>Nidus rage quits immediately, attempt to whisper him some build advice for the future, just to make up for maybe coming off like a dick
>This user is ignoring you
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>>169083947
they killed draco so hard that the map that used to be draco have a spawn rate so low, even the interception on earth is more difficult
it's fucking stupid
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>>169085196
If I ended up in a group with you I'd probably leave instantly.
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>>169085686
IGN?
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>mfw people already have Banshee Prime access
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>>169086120
oh, yeah that dude won a computer too. lucky him.
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>>169086218
I wonder what specs the pc have and how many peripherals it comes with. Also the specs on that monitor.
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>>169083947
But Hydron and Helene are better for leveling and Hieracon is better for credits than Akkad and it has Axi relics and useful drops
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Do you think DE knows about how the change to weapon locked sorties is working or should we keep quiet?
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>>169086886
[DE]let tihs
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>>169086886
Always keep quiet about whatever unless it's a gamebreaking bad bug, like when you use a kuva fort gun emplacement makes you fly and get stuck on map geometry, it's not the fun way of flying but it's a fucky bug that you'd have to restart a mission for.
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>>169086886
They've known for at least a week, cause that's when I pmed Drew. People on discord are really open about sharing exploits, thankfully.
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>>169086120
Ember Prime has aged very poorly. I remember when she came out I thought she was the coolest looking frame. Now she looks absolutely atrocious. Thank god DE let us use none prime skins on the Primed frames now.
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>>169087009
Fag
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>>169086886
Yes, but they won't do shit about it until it gets out because it's tricky to fix.
Keep calm and carry on, anon.
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I kinda wish there was maybe a $10~ a month subscription that gave you all of the boosters for that month and maybe a little platinum.

The game is much more pleasant with the boosters and I really wouldn't mind paying that desu
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Stop me from buying this tennogen helmet, it looks really nice.. I bought enough tennogen already. The smart thing would be to just wait for deluxe skin
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>>169088872
>it looks really nice
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>>169086120
has anyone got the stats of the euphona?
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>>169088872
The name alone makes me want to buy it, I can't convince you not to.
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>tfw saw banshee prime picture with what looks like a magnus prime and then read the text

thought i had a purpose for this magnus riven, I have a lot of kuva to roll it..
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I want a better Lato.
18 in mag, very fast semi-auto, very fast reload, crit/status build like akstiletto.
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>>169088872
it's just another 2 weeks or 3. You lived this long without it anon. Just hold out a bit more. At the very least wait until the deluxe skin to see if you still want that helmet.
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>>169089589
>mr 12
>locked
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Just before I started playing again this month I ended my grind at MR18 which coincidentally is also the max MR required to use the current rivens.

I guess is MR20 now to future proof the next bullshit mods.
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>>169090520
MR 16 is the maximum of riven mod requirenments. however more MR is always good to future-proof, it also makes building freshly formad things easier and gets you more syndicate standing to jew.
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Post good ember P colour schemes!

or any frame I dont fucking care.

Post cool shit.
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>Nidus strength scales with MR

I hope all warframes have this feature in the future.
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>>169091013
>colour schemes
I'm sorry but all my color schemes are copyrighted works, I can't share them.
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>>169091042
Since when? You sure you aren't confusing MR with his own rank?
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>do infested exterminate alert
>alad v starts talking
Is this supposed to happen?
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>>169091478
As you might see, it's mutalist Alad V. So yes.
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>>169091441
oh yeah, I meant rank.
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>>169084365
Didn't he just post a massive wall of math that said chroma was better?
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I bought a set of all the dual-stat electricity mods for 300p, how bad did I do?
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What happened to the alliance, nightframe?
I want my logo back.
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>doing ayatan treasure mission
>stalker appears
>literally right about to get the treasure
>he teleports me back to the start
>gate closes
>mission failed
>this is after 3 failed attempts

man fuck this game and fuck endo
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>>169092710
>I bought a set of all the dual-stat electricity mods for 300p, how bad did I do?

Should've waited for baro, idiot that is way too much plat for what? 3 mods?
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>warframe market doesn't know what Primed Fury is
REEEEEEE!
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>>169092863
4, and one of them is 150 alone

Going off of WF Market all of the mods seperate would've been ~500p, but I bought them all for 300 so as far as I can tell it was a good deal

Im not hurting for plat either so
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>>169092814
titania can fly
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Nidus kills my fps when I spam his abilities, can't imagine what would it be like with a all-nidus squad.
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>>169092927
You can't trade that mod.
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ne1 want to idle in larunda
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who is Aya and why are they making so many sculptures in her honor!?
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>>169093331
>tfw registered loser
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>>169093397
It's time to put down the anime friend, I think you've had enough
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>>169093202
You can't? I see people advertising to buy/sell it in trade chat though.
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>>169093397
Ayatan is a grill from the planet Grindo from the Asspullian galaxy.
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>>169093470
It was tradeable until Update 19, the only way to get it is from the 200 day login reward so people were making secondary accounts to get doubles
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>>169093610
Ah. Thanks for the info, anon.
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>>169093470
>>169093610
And don't forget about guy, who gave this mod to his friend to try out and was unable to take it back cause that update.
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>>169093687
>that crit chance

holy shit
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>>169093450
Shut up you! I can stop anytime I want!!
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>>169093687
>Impact
lol
>Crit chance
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>>169093687
>that impact
>that crit chance

New favorite secondary incoming?
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>>169093687
SOLD
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So I am going to assume that volt and odonata arn't going to go for high amount s of plat, right?
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>>169093687
>30 crit
Better start gathering up extra hydro crosshairs and other crit shit.
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>>169093687
>Obviously just a primed Pyrana except with impact instead of slash
>Call it something entirely different
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>>169093687
>impact
bleh
>2% status
things that don't matter
>shotgun
wow status is garbage
>crit chance
mother of god
>secondary
MOTHER OF GOD
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>>169093815
>has the only stat that matters for prime frames increased
fuck now I have a reason to get her
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>>169093687
>yet another crit sudearm
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I can't get a meso c2 to drop

I really need that Carrier Prime piece.
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>>169094143
which one is it?
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>>169093687
so has anyone in here goyed their way to this gun yet? I want to know what its firing action is like.
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>>169094164
Cerebrum
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>>169094251
fuck can't remember if I have it or not. I'd give it to you but can't boot the game right now.
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>>169093687
Post your best valk.
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>>169094349
Thanks, but I think it's going for 30 plat right now. I don't think I could take that for free.
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>>169094490
I still have lots of old relics back when the key conversion happened, might have the one you need. But I can't log into the game until 8pm central time.
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>>169094370
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>>169094675
WALK LIKE AN EGYPTIAN
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>>169094605
Maybe tomorrow we can run if I have any relics you need.
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time to use your medallions, boys
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>>169094759
Wonder if DE forgot about the medallions again
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>>169094759
no banshee prime trailer?

fucking hell
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>>169094759
>using them already

Wait, banshee doesnt come out till the 28th.
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>>169094209
we can't even buy the prime access yet right
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>>169094675
>we get Mesa Prime's helmet and a bobtail instead
>>
>To pile it on, the specific purpose of the Tenno and the Warframes is to create a "dream" or simulation to keep the children focused on fighting the Orokin Empire's enemies so that they didn't wake up a wreck havok on society. Now compare that to the players who put in hours and hours each day playing Warframe rather than thinking about social issues, reading the news, etc.
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>>169095627
>not having someone else to read you the news while you play warframe
>>
>crit related mods are already rising in price
Good thing I didn't sell off my primed target cracker last week.
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Is Strength mods on Saryn a big waste?
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>>169096197
>is saryn a waste
Yes.
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>>169096197
>Strength mods

god no, you should max your range and strength.
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>>169094370
>cat
>space loli
>perfection
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>>169096172
how much are they now? i have 3 of them
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>>169093687
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so can i unveil my pistol rivens now or should I wait until the 28th
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>>169096417
Just a very light increase, but it's a sure sign once the Euphona Prime releases, we are gonna profit.
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which fist weapons are ideal for muda muda
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>>169096827
furax
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>>169093687
Fucking hell, the power creep has never been more real.
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>>169096827
ankyros prime for fast punches
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How do I get Argon Crystals SUPER FAST?
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>100 Health
>100 Shields
>65 Armour
>175 Power
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>have 3 spare primed target cracker mods

Buying bulk baro items eventually pays off.
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>>169097709
Valk in void defense.
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>>169097885
her helmet is ver similar to nekros' prime helm.
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>>169097885
>65 armor
I'll take it
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How are people finding these prime banshee items already?

They ingame already?
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>>169096516
Brakk died a long time ago.
It did not survive Damage 2.0.
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>>169098058
>not pandering to the shitter who kept crying for more suvrivability
Respect, DE.
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>>169097885
whats that idle animation stance?
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>>169096827
don't listen to these plebs >>169097546 >>169097264

kogake or sparring weapons is the way to go for Oraoraing or Mudamudaing
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>>169098064
you can't get them but you can link them

there are people who got her as part of the giveaway
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>>169098064
Technically, yes they are.

Some lucky fuckers got a free computer+free banshee prime from DE.
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>>169098497
>sparring weapons
get out, sparring weapons are fucking horrible
especially hirudo, can't decide whether it wants to be a lifesteal weapon or a crit weapon
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>>169096197
Strength is less important the higher you go since the viral effect does more for your regular weapon damage. Duration is what can be sacrificed a little since ideally enemies should not be taking up to spore's maximum duration in order to die. Taking TF instead of BR means you can keep costs down and just recast spores more often instead of taking OverExt and needing BR to compensate.
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Is Banshee a cricket? I thought she was a bat but banshee prime looks like a bug.
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>>169098513
>>169098541
Oohhh the pc giveaway. Gotcha.
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>potato and 6-forma'd banshee during christmas
guess banshee prime's just more goy fodder
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>>169098858
Some new primes seem to be changing the base idea, Trinity was a Lobster but Trinity Prime is a Mantis, so it isn't that weird for Banshee Prime to change.
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post technicians
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>>169097885
Haha, time for a cybergoth frame

They really should have made the helmet look more like a respirator mask though.
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Which frames attracts the worst people?

Frost and Ember attract the drooling retards

Loki attracts fotm kiddies

Chroma attracts the autistic faggots
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>>169099456
whats your chroma build
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>>169093687
>It's another "DE forgot how strong secondary mods are" episode
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What elements y'all got on your tigris prime

I'm running viral/rad but I'm thinking of going to blast/corrosive
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>>169099110
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>>169098598
wtf is this hot bait?
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>>169099456
Valkyr are pretty bad, Volt usually never talk but are dicks when they do, much like Loki except Loki are even bigger assholes.
Nova think they are the only reason the team is doing well ever, even when they are slowing everyone down.
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>>169099456
mesa attracts autistic retarded kiddies

you can't even compete with that
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>>169098598
Haha nice joke anon
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>>169099456
oberon attracts raw garbage
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>>169099642
210% duration
190% strength
Max Vitality
Max Steel Fiber
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>>169100062
Lucifer you forgot your trip.
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>>169100062
But Luci hates Mesa
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>>169099829
I use corrosive and cold.
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>>169099456
Valk attracts faggots, dykes, and gott.
Truly the worst.
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>>169100273
>>169100282
prove me wrong.

show me mesa fags aren't autistic retarded kiddies
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>>169100483
wtf is even going on in this image?
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>>169099456
only Nekros players seem consistently good
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>>169099456
This is why all warframes need to be re-worked to be balanced and fun, like they did with saryn and the upcoming limbo re-work and the latest warframes.
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>>169100593
Autism.
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>>169100353
I play Valk..
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>>169100593
Faggotry and delusion my dear anon.
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>>169100483
We'll I guess the easiest way would be to not argue with you
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Whats a good exalted blade build? I heard gas is good, anyone have a link?
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>>169100772
Are you a faggot, dyke, or gott?
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>>169100816
full damage full critical damage
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>>169071176
Is that really banshee prime? They just gave her a new helmet. Still looks like shit.
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>>169100816
The best build is called "Primal Fury"

Try it sometime.
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>>169100716
>>169100776
>they don't know
>mesa fags are just neo-wfg using cucked mesa

really makes you think
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>>169099456
Pub player reporting in:
Top retards i usually see in game prefer next frames:
- simulor Mirages;
- Lokis, since you hyped him as good frame, and now every shoolboy thinks it's his duty to take Loki on any %missionname% and die 4 times in a row there;
- 300 hp Embers;
- same hp Saryns;
- "gotta go fast" Volts with over9k strength, which leads this Volts to running into walls;
- some Zephyrs, who use their ults mostly when no one needs it.
The higher level of enemies on mission, the faster this players dies.
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>>169094675
Everytime I look at valkyr prime, I can only surmise they held a contest among their staff to create the stupidest looking mess of jagged bullshit.
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>>169100215
obviously they are skilled gentlemen players looking to provide themselves with a challenge you ignoramus.
why else would they kneecap themselves with such a shitty frame?
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>>169100924
NO I WANT EXALTED BLADE NOT EXALTED STICK GOKU DOESNT NEED TO BE IN THIS GAME TOO
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>>169101137
Which is why all legitimate Valk players are running Gersemi with Bastet helmet.
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>>169101102
>I'm that Zephyr
It's fun to see the pubs get mad about the nados.
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>>169101102
The ember situation is especially bad because of the unvaulting (The Frosts seem to have petered out a bit, thank god.), which upsets me because she's my framefu.

Seriously though, it's like a lot of pubs have never heard of vitality.
>>
Is Ignis good with Saryn? It seems redundant with her spores but also seems reliable for popping and spreading them.

Would Secura Lecta with range mods and Toxic Lash be good for spreading spores reliably?
>>
>>169101319

What about Gersemi with Cheetah for those of us with goybux?
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>>169101319
What about Graxx
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>>169093687
Sounds like the mastiff from titanfall.
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>>169101575
>retexture with a 'meh' helmet
You could do better, anon.

>>169101510
That's fine too.
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>>169101380
Once upon a time, when there was long 2-4 hours tower missions, there was build optimisation, which required removing health in favor of other mods. This towers were premade only, so survivability were achieved through teamplay and other frames, who were assigned to protect entire team. Novadays it doesn't work, so people should mostly count on themselves only in questions of survivability. But some people just refuse to give up on that old teamplay only builds, and some new players, who read guides, written by that old players, are absolutely assured, that this builds should work anywhere for anything. Which is wrong.
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that infested salvage mission is bullshit.

it's like Interception on manual transmission.
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>>169101102
>300 hp embers
>implying you need health when you can kill everything before even entering a room
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>euphona prime has 3 V polarities
>pure crit gun
welp, I guess I know what my new peacemaker secondary is
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>>169101701
Which is fine until they start joining sorties
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>>169101701
Aren't you the one ember, who uses overextend? How was your last sortie?
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Banshee prime is UGLY
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>>169100871
Slash too? Can exalted blade redcrit with naroman?
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>>169101810
I dont use ember on sorties I'm not that much of a retard
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>he doesn't main 299% power strength warcry Valk with a combo/crit galatine prime
Do you not like winning?
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>>169101921
nope
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>>169101921
Don't use the r-word. You'll summon you-know-who.
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>>169101936
Well, one retarded ember on sortie less. Have you ever head about accelerant? You know, it could increase your damage almost as good, as banshee's sonar.
>>
>mr14 test
>"This will be your hardest test yet"
>3 waves of 10/18/15 enemies
>all lv16-18
>don't even have to reload SomaP once
Srsly
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>>169102115
I know about the accelerant build, I was just assuming we were talking about the build every ember in existance uses which is max range WoF. I mostly use Ivara or mesa in sorties
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>>169102060
>he doesn't play what ever frame he wants for FUN
Do you not like living?
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>>169101852
Primes by looks no Excal
Volt>Ash=Loki>Ember=Frost>Booban=Rhino>Nekros>Trinity>Nyx=Mag>Valkyr>Nova
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>>169102212
>mr 20 test
fly through 2 loops and use afterburners, done
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>pub today's sortie 1 (infested mobile deff)
>team is mesa/wukong/frost/vauban
>frost cast snowglobe
>i try to explain why we don't need it
>"it donsn't hurt, it slow them" say frost
>vauban leave the squad
this kind of shit make me sad, i realy like frost, it's a good frame, but why most of frost players must be this retarded ffs
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>>169102060
>Equip any weapon that isn't 100% shit
>everything up to final sorties is piss easy
Wow
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>>169102060
> 299% power strength
What for? Just 155 strength, lesion with that heal mod with viral and fire, range and that combo+status mod, and you're literally immortal, while killing everything in moments. Either eternal war or natural talent, if you like to press more, than single e button.
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>>169102265
>living
You have an odd definition of "being a loser".
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>>169100826
I'm bi. What warframe is for me?
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>>169102315
its because its babby's first defensive frame, they think that the bubble is be all end all and nothing can kill them as long as they're in it

its a noob trap basically
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>>169102409
Lesion
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>>169102603
Equinox
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>>169102603
Any of them, why did you even ask?
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>>169102603
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>>169102603
equinox
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>>169102409
>he doesn't realize that 299% power strength makes her an immortal tornado of death and fun
Power range actually hurts her, and she doesn't need life steal through mods. Press 4, hit something once, and then press 4 again. Boom: full health. We used to run that build to solo/duo 2-3 hour T4S runs without a single death or down. Granted it was scindo prime and there were no combo mods, but the point stands.
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>>169102749
Sometimes I spawn as Composite form during a mission. It's very annoying.
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>>169102409
Valkyr
>>169102770
>Power range actually hurts her
Not anymore. As much as i know, her ult receive dmg radius isn't afflicted by range anymore. And other skills only benefit from it.
>>
I wish the big grineer interception map on earth had a defense variant or something, it's really cool and I forgot it existed until recently
>>
>>169102749
>>169102663
>>169102756
But Equinox was confurmed to be female and butch female in both forms, even though during her creation she was supposed to be both male and female.
>>
>>169103062
still half gay like u
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>>169101102
>300 hp
but I have primed flow, quick thinking and rage desu
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>>169103126
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>169103062
>female frame for a female frame contest
>somehow supposed to be male and female according to a random anon on /vg/
>>
>>169102603
Nezha for twinkiness
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>>169099110
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>>169103278
Too many fucking female meta frames, we need more good male ones.
>>
>>169103360
Strength vauban? how does it work
>>
>>169093687
Does it have worse falloff than the brakk?
>>
>ywn be a cute valkyr
>ywn accept Kela's offer to be an executioner
>ywn kill all the grineer you want
>ywn be headpatted by a strong independent 9ft grineer woman who don't need no man
>>
>>169103536
nah, I do duration and range, some efficiency
This was just a low level mission
>>
boy I sure do love getting endo and lenses every single day
>>
>>169104687
hoo boy hoo

hoo
>>
wow why do people even use warframe market

I get stuff way cheaper by just spamming trade chat
>>
>>169104836
I have enough plat that I don't care about the minor price difference and would rather not subject myself to trade chat.
>>
What's the deep lore behind Nekros, Saryn, and Banshee Prime's sameface syndrome?
Will Hydroid have the same issue? Is Mynki behind it all?
>>
>>169104836
I don't use market and usually sell items with higher price by telling "market is there, and real prices are higher".
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>>169105387
you answered your own question
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>>169104836
> Hmm.. Looks like I need to buy thing
> What? Thing is selling for 100p on wf market?
> What a ripoff. I'm gonna sit in trade chat for an hour so I can buy it for 95p

nigger.
>>
>>169104089
>ywn be Kela's pussy pussy
>>
everything LUA related is a fucking shit
>>
>>169106069
use a macro
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>>169083958
>>169083112
There is literally nothing wrong with farming focus in a sortie intercept. It's faster than farming it on bere, especially if you get lucky and it's eximus stronghold.
>There are people here who don't get their focus capped in 1 run on an eximus stronghold sortie
Anyone who can't deal with the fact that enemies are spawning is pretty much a shitter anyway.
>>
>>169106383
Fuck you buddy
Lua is the best tileset
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>>169104836
Because there is literally no market for ps4 players. Unless I am being dumb and don't know how to filter members.

Plus you have a pretty good idea of whats selling from trade chat alone.

>syndicate/vault/acolyte mods
>nekros/valkyr gold tier prime drops
>invasion weapons/parts

Everything else can be sold to baro for ducats.
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>>169106640
>sortie 2 a while back
>interception
>old draco map
>eximus units

That was fun.
>>
>>169106956
It's a severe DE case of they think it's fun but it really isn't
>>
I have primed reach, I have no idea why I ground the ducats for it when I'm using the infested knuckles for self healing

What do?
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>>169107462
Are you the REEEE lua spy unfair retard from the last thread?
>>
>>169107987
lua spy is retardedly easy with Limbo so not
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>>169108052
> Limbo
> Not Wukong
This is a common sentiment but it's also fucking dumb.
>>
>>169108183
Titania would be faster if that's what you want to do.
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>>169108183
>wukong
at that point you might as well just say
>literally any frame
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>>169107978
Use it with something that already has absurd base range like orthos prime or any whip for magical anime airblades slashing things 15 meters away from you.
>>
>>169108508
> Literally any frame can cloudwalker

>>169108397
Now that you mention it she probably would be. I wonder if I can use huras to get stealth while in pixie form. Gonna need to try that. been using wukong to farm acolyte mods so long never even crossed my mind that titania would make it faster
>>
>>169108673
Companions vanish when you use Razorwing I think
>>
>>169107978
I use a maxed prime reach on secura lecta and grind credits and poly bundles on uranus.

>play nekros
>secura lecta
>hid in blocked hallway
>slide attack
>kill everything
>sentinel with vacum
>do for an hour

Maybe not the most efficent but it passes the time.
>>
>>169108673
>>169108801
Unsure even as someone who uses Titania a lot.

Sentinels are shifted to a hidden state where you cast it but some abilities seem to continue working in that area around the sentinel such as helios' scans.
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>>169108801
>implying titty anna doesn't turn her companion into a beautifull butterfly
>>
>>169108673
You don't need stealth in any of the vaults. Since you can fly you can go through the easier destroyed paths even faster with the routes that avoid the mobile scanners.

Limbo is still the only one that can cheese the largest vault at high speed.
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>>169109236
does ivara's augment work on orokin lasers? does tacrolling the third vault take exceptionally longer?
>>
>Riven mod two days in a row
A-am I going to die?
>>
>>169109436
Yes and not really with all the shortcuts.
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>>169109591
Im going to kill you instead.
>>
>>169102650
>lesion
>missing the most important mod to put on lesion
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Condition_Overload
if you ever get memeing strike you can do ~850k damage per spin on that valkyr with a 3.0 combo multiplier
or
over 1.3m damage per spin on saryn with a 3.0 combo multiplier, not counting toxic lash's damage bonus
>>
>>169108397
>flying through the lua vault with the orokin sensors
>not close to any lasers
>WEEP WEEP WEEP WEEP WEEP
>run out of time because I'm retard and new to lua
Razorflies tripping sensors makes me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169109670
LEAVE ANON ALONE
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>>169102060
No. He doesn't.
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>>169110675
>stealth frames have anything to offer now that focus exists
Okay.
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>>169110821
Hi, my name's gas damage and I'm retarded.
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>>169110821
there are still a lot of noobs that just buy loki prime while they grind up the 2mil naramon focus for shadow step
>>169110980
that works with shadow step, don't need loki, ash, or ivara to do that
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>>169111070
>all status weapons crit reliably
yeah, okay.
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>>169111230
yes, literally all melee does
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Maiming_Strike
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>>169099456
>used to play Frost before I could afford slots
>shocked about the complaining
How hard is it for these people to understand when and when not to use the bubble?
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>>169110821
>>169111070
>>169111323
> Waiting for 2minutes to be invisible for 15 seconds on slide attack spaming
> GREATLY SUPERIOR TO JUST USING LOKI
Thanks but no thanks.
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How do I build amprex? Like a standard rifle or I'm trying to make a status weapon?
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>>169111998
forget about status, go for crit
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>>169111998
crits. crits and damage, so i guess like a regular rifle. do absolutely put sinister reach on, and heavy calibur is an auto-include on the beam gun.
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>>169111937
>sliding attack
>only 15 seconds
It's any melee, and it refreshes indefinitely so long as you keep hitting.
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>>169111937
its actually more like 3 minutes because you want deadly intent too, it only matters on endless
except for certain sortie 2 modifiers and some sortie 3s you can just straight up kill enemies before they see or have line of sight on you, so invisibility/melee is pointless
loki is a really good starter frame, that's why they replaced him, he made the game too easy; however once you get good mods and better frames the only times loki's invisibility would be useful is for long endless, in which case naramon is waaaaaaaaay better
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>>169112469
>not sliding
>reliably critting
follow the goddamn conversation.
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>Unveiled Soma, Furis, and Ignis
All guns I use a lot. Is what you unveil based on gun usage?
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well, if you insist
holy fuck titania makes this fight easy
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>>169112668
>he doesn't know about warcry Valk with blood rush galatine prime
100% red crits 11.5x a second to everything in range when properly built.
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>>169112680
No.

If that was the case then no one would need to buy simalar, tonkor, or soma rivens
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>>169093687
>5 magazine
>2.0 RELOAD

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Fuckj
Fuck you DE
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>>169112873
I also take her to moonspy and statue runs for the purpose of laughing at jump puzzles.
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>vault 2 prime sets, resulting in 8 discontinued items
>bring in 3 sets, resulting in 11 new items
>Discontinue 8 relics
>introduce 13 new relics, all of which will have all the displaced garbage, in the discontinued relics
>only 3 of the relics will have reasonable drop rates, while 4 will be in silver odds, and 4 will be gold odds
>you aren't going to get all the relics from your means of syndicates, because 2 of the new relics won't have any of the new parts and they will bugger up your chances for the ones that do
>remove drop tables to introduce even more drop tables

I still hate this fucking vaulting bullshit with relics.
Makes your old relics useless to those that have everything, but useful for those that want them for some reason, and just makes the grind even worse than it was pre relic eras.
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>>169112903
you can slide while executing the broken bull combo, so you should still be sliding in that situation
it doesn't require the slide attack animation, just that you're sliding when it contacts an enemy
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>>169112903
>he's just saying shit that's beside the fucking point of the conversation
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why cant i hav a bigger fov on my

u l t r a w i d e s c r e e n m o n i t o r
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>>169102315
What's egregiously wrong here? Sure, you don't really need the bubble in this case, but it's not actively fucking you up like Akkad grinding or something. As a Mesa I appreciate well-placed bubbles for that split second before I can get Shatter Shield back up.
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>>169112958
>B-BAWWW I HATE BALANCE AND ONLY WANT FULL AUTO HIGH MAG HIGH DAMAGE SHORT RELOAD WEAPON, EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRASH
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>>169114526
probably because you can't see shit with the bubble, it's not fucking you up, but it's annoying
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>>169114724
I bet you like Broncos and spending 99% of mission reloading.
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>>169114526
Its not entierly useless but for the sake of efficiency or out right eazy peazy a vauban or banshee would have been better. Only to make it easier.
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>>169114724
small mag should have relatively short reload. having a small mag and a large reload means you spend more time putting bullets in the gun that shooting them out of it. that isn't balance, that is annoying.
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>>169113109
So what you're saying is

>sell Banshee augments for plat instead of buy relic packs and buy the items

Gotcha
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>>169114924
Not every weapon in the game should spend 90+% of the time being able to fire continuously, that's basically like saying "remove all sniper type weapons cause they can't into low TTK"
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>>169101482
Please respond.
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>>169113349
They nerfed maiming strike to only be for "slide attack" specifically, and no longer "attacks while sliding"

This nerfed maiming's interactions with Atlas punch, Redeemer, slide charge attacks, and whatever else.
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>>169115045
If they ultimately have an equal TTK with all things considered then keep snipers, if they are comparable.

Destiny ultimately suffers very badly from this mindset.
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new gun supposedly uses the Marelok firing animations.

Goodbye lex prime
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>>169115829
What's about reload mechanics. Is it just a standard reload or like Zarr.
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>>169114894
Eh, I've played in enough pub sorties that I care less about efficiency than competence. I'd rather have a less meta Frost who can take care of himself than a Trinity who wanders off from the group and has to be rezzed four times.
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Just got the lens of free energy, how do I get quickly get enough to unlock said free energy?
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>>169116689
go to the market, buy a greater lens, put it on ember/mesa

???

focus
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>>169116689
basically get one set of shit onhand with greater lenses in them, and then go XP farm with max rank stuff until you hit the daily focus cap.
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>>169114484
Glad they finally coded in a more informative design for stat cards like that.

Go check and see if stug, sonicor, Staticor got this treatment. They all have hidden stats for their secondary projectiles/explosions I think.
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>>169117058
I don't think the staticor does, just higher aoe/lower flight speed with charge.
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>>169117058
It's a WIP, it's not live yet.
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>>169114484
>tfw just want punch-through listed on the stat card
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>>169113812
The conversation is based around stealth frames being useless for melee now compared to actual melee frames like Valk since focus provides ALL melee with stealth for free.

Someone made the claim that you couldn't reliably crit with melee outside of sliding attacks using maiming strikes.

The answer to that is that an attack speed frame like Valk using blood rush can not only reliably crit, but achieve and maintain a 100% red crit rate when using a properly built crit heavy melee weapon like the galatine prime.
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What random things in Warframe makes you want to just endo your life?

>Zephyr that keeps spamming tornadoes
>Slowva in defence missions
>Sound Quake Banshees
>Limbo that just fucks around
>Frost that pops up randomly snow globes and doesn't know how to delete them
>Cryo barrels and breakable windows
>Defense and Excavation missions after [DE]Glen's magical touch
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>>169118551
>What random things in Warframe makes you want to just endo your life?

trade chat in general
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>>169118135
>stealth frames being useless for melee now compared to actual melee frames like Valk since focus provides ALL melee with stealth for free.
no, the argument was for stealth frames being useless period because focus is a one-size fits all solution. having to use valkyr with a specific weapon in order to accomplish the same thing a dufferent specific frame accomplishes with any weapon, or without a weapon doesn't prove jack shit.
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>>169118551
Valkshitters in general.
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>>169118668
The original post is about valkyr winning. The reply that started this particular chain was an image of loki stealth.

Follow the conversation please.
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>>169118551
Oh, I forgot one more thing

>Stealth multiplier ends because one enemy died a few milliseconds later than his buddy, and thus gaining alert status before his death
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>>169118551
I dunno it's a super easy grindheavy mmo. no real reason to get mad enough to sudoku.
Having my time wasted in LoR raids is kinda disappointing.
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>>169118623
all in-game chat makes me want to just endo everything.
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>>169114873
You won't notice it if you reload while you move from target to target.

Tigris is bad too.
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>>169118551
>slowva in defense
I can only defend this by the fact that they're planning for the absolute worst to happen. Sure, you can bring fast/neutva and have it go quickly, but what if your entire team is mr5 mags? You're not going to have a fun time.
>>
hoo boy warframe sure is a fun game for FUN people.
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Someone is offering me Maxed Primed Flow and 100p for Loki Prime. Is this good?
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>>169119892
It's a fair price.
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>>169112958
Primed Fast Hands ;)
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Taking suggestions.
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>>169120475
Becky Helmintheimer
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>>169120475
Frametier
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>>169120475
HIV+BPNPC+HPV+
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>>169120475
"Buttentacles" the final concept art and model has them.
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>>169120475
DogoTrump
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>>169108801
>>169120475
BPNPCumfart
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>>169120475
Makaron
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>>169120475
STI RESULTS
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>>169120475
Fidus
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>>169120776
fuck you because now I have alcohol stuck in my nose from unexpected laughter
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>>169118668
Is melee a meme?
After browsing the previous thread's calculations, I'm caught between Chroma and Valkyr Prime for a tank frame.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a crit Valkyr over, say, a Chroma with a good gun and maiming strike/atterax?
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Would you use a warframe mod that you let your shots count for your combo counter, it would have the highest energy drain of any mod in the game now
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>>169120475
CHARGER
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>>169121146
Valk is vastly superior for melee.
Chroma is far superior for shooting.

Both are viable, so take your pick based on if you want to melee or shoot.
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>>169121337
How about one that gives +50% total damage while aiming?
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>>169117176
It's more damage to compensate as well. I feel like there's a noticeable difference in AOE and damage between fully charged and just slightly before charged when the bar is glowing compared to charging.
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>>169121146
Valk will have more melee attack speed for clearing trash, but Chroma will have more damage output for targets that wouldn't die in 1 hit either way.
Ignoring Hysteria, Chroma's tankiness is miles ahead of Valk.
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>[Equinox Night Neuroptics Blueprint]
S T O P
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I want epenis prime already. 78k avg paper damage per shot
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>>169120475
SuccessfulAbortion
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I just fought Tyl Regor for the first time, what's a tubeman?
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>>169121719
It's also only on paper and highly unstable in game if you use the theoretical build. The most stable Chroma build has about 40k EHPM while the feedback loop crit Valk build has about 45k.

The theoretical chroma build has 90k, but you'll be eating blue pancakes like you're at a speed eating competition, spamming button like a QTE, and if one thing goes wrong it all falls to bits. You're better off with the stable one.
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>>169121998
all the grineers, they are test tube babies.
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>>169122058
>per minute

Why do this. Why is Valkyr's EHP in per minutes anyway, when the skill is "infinite" with continuous kills or additional energy pad usage?

Is 40k+ EHP even important if you can't kill anything (see Chroma damage bonus vs Valkyr attack speed bonus) and we already know enemy health/armor scales much faster than their damage does.
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>>169122058
>EHPM
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>>169122506
11.5x 120-140k red crits per second in a large AoE is far from being "unable to kill anything". That's what feedback loop Valk does with a Galatine Prime.
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>>169121398
Depends on the drain on it. Needs to be mid tier I think, there is too many must have mods that it would be fighting against for a spot
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>>169121998
there was an event where alad v and nef anyo wanted you to break into his house and steal his science, that's how alad got uninfested. Nef just wanted to prevent Alad from getting it.
Anyway the tubemen are his better grineer from his research, presumably the drekar manics and manic bombards are the best ones so far
Aim was to stop them from degenerating but they also got super swole

It would be great if half of the character storylines (alad v in particular) weren't stuck behind tac alerts from years ago
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>>169122640
Not TQ.
TQ hates Valk and has an infantile understanding of the game mechanics.
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>>169098858
I get more of a bat vibe.
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>>169122058
>EHPM
herewegoagain.jpg
> The most stable Chroma build has about 40k EHPM
What kind of shit build only has about 40k average EHP?
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>>169122873
That's fucking retarded.
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what is a TQ and how do i build it ? is it good ?
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>>169098858
>>169122932

She's a moth.

Euphona is also a moth.

Moths cancel bat soundwaves, that's why she has silence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echolocation_jamming#Jamming_by_prey
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>>169121998
GRINEER RESEARCHER TILE RIGGER IS A BADM'N
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>obtain zephyr
>can't color a third of her
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>>169122058
>Tierlist
>Saryn
>Red Crit
>My Opinion
>EHPM
This is a beginning of a good year.
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>>169122506
Survival as Valk is best conveyed as "Effective Health Points in a given Minute" because you have to factor hysteria as a healing and "Oh shit" mitigation tool as well. The same goes for Chroma given the ramp on Vex Armor as well as the duration and power cost of maintaining Vex and Ward.
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>>169123247
>obtain mesa
>can't color the fucking guns
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>>169123052
299% power strength with full guardian, QT, Steel Fiber, and Armored Agility.
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>>169123247
Buy Gundam Tennogen skin and you can :^)
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>>169123482
>SF
AAAAAHHHHH
STOP THIS FUCKING MEME
>I'm going to compare EHP with a purposefully shitty build
Nice strawman
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>>169123362
but wait there's more!
They haven't even got into EHP Regen and how it affects the EHPM.
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>>169123591
Wait, not him, but what's wrong with more armor on a tank frame? Have I been building my Chroma wrong?
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so does my red crits/s affect my EHP/M ratings if I go with naramon
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>>169123181
>what is a TQ
Here's your answer >>169071558

>how do i build it
You don't build it you summon it, just start a post with "is this XXXX a good frame", replace XXXX with any frame name.

>is it good ?
Very, we already have a pasta guide up in OP.
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ball scratches/hr > ehp/m > you are now manually breathing per second
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>>169123712
Nothing, the anon you're replying to is TQ.
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>>169123482
>>169123591
Also, even if you WERE to do that build, it would still be 70k EHP without even considering QT (assuming vitality is in there somewhere).

>>169123712
SF, AA, and arcane guardian are ADDITIVE with elemental ward, and since ele ward is such a huge bonus it ends up overshadowing other armor modifiers.
Since vex armor is multiplicative, this means power str gives you quadratic scaling on armor. SF/AA aren't worth the opportunity cost of the mod slot, and guardian isn't worth the opportunity cost of arcanes that give HP regen like grace or arcanes that give damage output.
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>>169123121
A little
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>>169123482
>armored agility
Kek
Might as well use Vitality. You can even sacrifice a primary weapon, secondary weapon, or melee mod slot for healing.
>>169123378
I'll give you that "EHP/M" is a useful unit of measure, but maybe not the best one for all situations. And also, most "oh shit" moments as either frame come from a lack of energy due to eximus compared to anything else.
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>>169123981
No, TQ is a retard who argues in favor of SF on chroma. I had to explain how chroma works to him. TQ loves to make builds without understanding fuck all about a frame.
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>>169123712
aura (no polarity), power drift (matching polarity)
Blind Rage, Transient Fortitude, Energy Conversion, Steel Fiber (all matching polarities)
Primed Continuity, Narrow Minded, Primed Vigor, Vitality (all matching polarities)
Zenurik Energy Oveflow
Guardian on helm
Grace on syandana
Winds of Purity Furis
Telos Boltace with Healing Return
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Can Chroma or Valkyr tank thru stepping on a lego? What about stepping on a d4?
>>
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ApuNRlGFlM
>euphonia prime has three Vs without forma
does it jump straight onto your dick too? jesus christ.
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>>169124138
Take off SF, put on intensify. More EHP and more damage output.
>Guardian
Trash for the same reason. Use another grace or something defensive.
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>>169124216
3 0 % C R I T
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>>169124216
>it fires like the marelok
muh dick
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>ivara blueprint
>twice in a row
>>
Dear RNGesus
For Christmas I'd like [Equinox Day Chassis Blueprint] and [Equinox Night Aspect Blueprint]
Please be with me as I battle the tubemen
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>>169124330
the SF adds more way more EHP than Intensify in that build, it also makes the all forms of regen heal more EHP, guardian is just cheaper than grace and the helm can only be used on Chroma so you don't have to swap shit around as much.
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>>169124338
I already knew that. this is like the Ur-secondary. Now I just want to see the sickass gun they give hydroid or oberon prime in a sad attempt to make people pay attention to the next whoframe
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Hydroid Prime when
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>>169124508
hahahaha
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>>169124567
No it fucking doesn't. Did you even bother to do the math?
>Listed mods plus guardian
>85.6k EHP
>Swap SF for Intensify
>85.7k EHP, plus more damage output
It's a small difference in EHP admittedly as I had initially miscalculated how much power strength you would get from that build, but it doesn't change the fact that if two builds give the same EHP but one has more power strength, the one with more str is better as you'll have more damage output as well.
>it also makes the all forms of regen heal more EHP
I don't think you understand how this works. Getting power strength instead of SF gives you more final armor, thus making regen more effective.
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>>169124809
>the next prime after banshee will be oberon or hydroid
can't.fucking.wait
i want to see how DE will manage that and how "soon" they will manage to rework them
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>>169124991
EHPM, you're not always at full Scorn
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>>169125392
With primed (or non-primed) vigor you are, unless you pop it before having full shields.
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>>169123192
>mfw people don't recognize that the energy strands on her helmet represent a wailing Banshee's long hair.
fuggen plebs
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>>169125332
I'm hoping for something really dumb. tonkor prime through some leap of logic? a new shotgun with some inhumane pellet count? I'm not even expecting a rework. >>169124662 dream big for their "signature" weapons.
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>>169125524
assuming you use Zarr for easy self damage to max out Scorn, you still have to re/cast Vex Armor, then damage yourself, taking about 2 seconds, the buffs each last less than a minute, your build has much lower EHPM
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>>169125706
>EHPM
Is this the beginning of an epic new meme?
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>>169124662
Magistar prime, it's like Fragor prime but worse
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>>169125685
>tonkor prime through some leap of logic?

My guess is a brand new grenade launcher prime.

This gun is essentially marelok prime but the lore says only tenno weapons get a prime so they pull a prime without a tenno weapon out of their ass.
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>>169123192
>>169125528
>"Hey, banshees are technically fae folk, right? And moths are sort of fairy-like, aren't they?"
>"I'm not sure, Mynki, but what does-"
>"Tell Steve I'll have a new prime design for him by tomorrow."
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>>169125685
I WANT A SYBARIS PRIME
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>>169125892
only if it has safety pads on its self damage like tonkor.
>>
>Spend all day sitting around trying to sell my legendary core because I need warframe slots
>Decide to do a mission
>Get messaged by someone who wants to buy
>By the time I got done with the mission he already bought one from someone else
GOD DAMN IT
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>>169125892
It's a pyrana/brakk hybrid that uses marelok animations
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>>169126084
prime pads
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>>169125706
>Takes 2 seconds out of every minute
Oh wow
Guess Chroma is shit, he has to take 2 seconds out of every minute to recast a couple buffs. I mean we all know you're in combat literally 60 seconds out of every minute, there's zero downtime/looking for enemies/dealing with DE's shitty spawn coding.
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>>169125706
but the higher armor/EHP from intensify means that while buffs are up you get higher EHPM Regen
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>>169123442
You can colour the central barrel of them
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>>169106640
except the shitmulor barely tickles them
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>>169126342
no you can't, it stay fucking yellow
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>>169126306
You only get higher ehpm if the difference in ehp is enough to make up for the time spent per minute not at max vex. Of course, since ehpm is a value being pulled out of TQs ass, that calculation is just being taken on faith, and is pretty meaningless.
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>>169126548
Go to attachments, change color 4.
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Guys the new Euphoric Prime comes with 3 mothercucking V polarities holy shit.
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>>169126781
wrong pokemon
>>169124216
>>
guys am I gonna get bullied for using frost deluxe on normal frost?
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>>169126429
I didn't want to cause a shitstorm, all I wanted to know was how to build my Chroma...
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>Maiming strike and argon are barely going up in price
>Soma P is still not above 200p
>Ember/frost going up slow
>Didn't stock up on volt P before vaulting announcement
Just fuck my shekels up
>>
>thought I could make a somewhat viable channeling build
>realize the synoid heliocor doesn't have a proc to offset the energy drain so there's no point anyway
wew
back to meta builds, no memes allowed
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>>169127328
If you aren't being bullied for playing Frost in the first place then you'll be fine. faggot
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>>169127475
just use a melee with a syndicate mod :^)
>>
Can I kill a Manic with a counterfinisher?
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>>169126781
>Semi-auto with 5 rounds and an hour of reload time
Into the trash
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>>169127380
power str and duration. vigor AND vitality. season to taste.
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>>169127380
Question 1: Do you have primed vigor?
Question 2: Do you have energy conversion?
Question 3: Do you have maxed primed flow?

I don't have primed vigor yet, so I'm not using it.
My build is:
CP, Power drift
PF, PC, QT, Intensify
Max BR, Vitality, NM
Last slot is flexible, it can be EC for most missions, Rage for long boss fights since EC makes no sense there, or TF for long bosses if you don't mind using some pads.

If you want to do non-QT, swap PF and QT for TF and constitution or vigor.

The reason flat armor is so terrible is because it's additive with ele ward, and ele ward will be a huge bonus compared to the relatively meager bonuses from steel fiber/AA. Since power strength double dips (multiplies armor with ele ward then multiplies it again with vex armor), it's much better to just stack str (which will also give you deeps) than getting raw armor bonuses.
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>>169127472
Maiming Strike price spike back in December was from Telos Boltace and Secura Lecta, the supply is the highest its ever been now thanks to sleek, and the demand has only decreased.
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>>169127472
his individual parts are still all below 40p
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How much power strength with Valkyr? I feel like I swing too fast with how much I have now..

Don't want less armor tho
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>>169128305
if you're swinging too fast take off the melee's attack speed mods and just let warcry give you the speed, use more damage instead
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I want to play Ivara but bows are bad what should I do also im a returning player and literally nothing is the same what do
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>>169128397
Ivara's bow is hella stronk and multishots.
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Primed Finishing Touch and Primed Steel Fiber when

I need a better excuse to waste more Forma
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>>169128397
Get dread and you dont have to worry about bows being bad ever again. Also any primary weapon works with Ivara. Her 4 carries even on level 100s
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>>169128397
use stealth finishers.
push 4 and just rapid fire, it's fine
go to a defense and fire explosives from a dashwire
get a zenistar and use your 2 for lulz
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>>169128495
>>169128563
So since she has her own artemis bow thing, does that mean i have liberty to use any primary since she already has a bow?

what would you recommend?
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>>169128863
she can use any primary with her 4, yes. energy may get tight if you're going to prowl and bow all the time, but that's your cross to bear. anything that crits is fine.
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>>169128863
Any primary, because the artemis will inherit its mods; crit weapons work nicely, +speed trigger.
I usually go with a Tonkor for puredamage+crit or a Dread with damage+crit.

Riven's don't get inherited.
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>>169128397
Rakta Cernos and her 4 are good
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>>169128863
just get any weapon you enjoy using since her 4 uses the mods of your primary
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Why did they have to make the Ohma so much better than Telos Boltace? Nearly all its stats are better. If only we could put the Boltace skin on the Ohma. That electrostick thingy looks so silly.
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>>169129094
the ohma has shit for range and sounds like old paint cans.
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>>169128863
You can use any primary you want but I would recommend a crit primary.

Also any noisy weapons will get you out of Prowl.
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>>169128546
Primed Vitality when
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>>169129176
I need a Boltace Prime
Now
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>>169129230
Why would they prime a ten rank mod? What would that do?
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>>169129230
>880% health

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjHrkMUSNkM
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>>169129176
>sounds like old paint cans

Literally the only reason I still use the Prova since it has that same hollow plastic thump on hit. It's comical and brings me joy.
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Machete Prime when
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>>169129582
Zhuge Prime when
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>>169129190
noisy weapons actually just blink you out of prowl, it reapplies after a second or so. this contrasts with sliding and bullet jumping which actually turn prowl off.
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>>169129629
Attica prime when
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maybe the game will be out of beta by then

why have i been banned? ive not played for years
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Heat dagger prime when
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>>169129743
I envy you
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>>169129743
Might be an autoban system, contact support.
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>>169077138
>>169075850
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>>169129743
inactivity gets you banned i believe.

to '''''''''''''protect'''''''''''''' your account or something.
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>>169129759
>He wants another dagger when Rakta Dark Dagger is the best one
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>>169129695
Dakra when
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Heliocor Prime When
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>>169130197
I started playing again about 3 weeks ago after 2 years and wasn't banned
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Chroma is tankier than Valkyr

Chroma can pretty much completely shrug off a hoard Mot enemies, WarcryValkyr will get melted, doesn't have the necessary armor
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Sorties are a bigger waste of time to me now than usual. If I see another fucking sculpture I'm going to off myself.
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>>169130681
>Getting so many rivens I don't have enough endo and need sculptures
Feels bad man
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>>169130681
>offing yourself over something so trivial

how quaint.
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>Do you think DE knows about how the change to weapon locked sorties is working or should we keep quiet?

What did he mean by this?
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>Ask for 400p for my legendary core
>Just get laughed at
Am I retarded, or am I surrounded by jews?
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>>169128546
Primed finishing touch would be great actually
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>>169132264
it's called covert lethality
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How do I report a bug?

I was farming for Continuity and Intensify
I got Continuity at the first try from the fag of Uranus and trying to get Intensify from fucking Vor on Mercury

But when I fucking shot him Pretty much I instagib him with my Hek he ragdolls "dying" and I cant continue the fight because he is fucking invisible
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>>169130203
>He doesn't want a prime single dagger
rakta procs cause problems anyway
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>>169132383
On something other than daggers, obviously
Finisher damage is great
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>>169132412
That's just a client/host issue. Manics do the same thing.
Unless you were the host, in which case that's probably a bug.
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>>169132152
jews
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>>169132110
You can glitch it into using your other weapons as they're actually still equipped
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>>169132561
I could see it being convenient for scaling/destroying crowds with jat kittag augment

One finisher that causes an enemy to explode and kill his neighbor is one finisher I don't have to do.
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>>169132619
Manics don't have phases or invincibility moves

So, I need to just host Solo?
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>>169132412
Post IGN, I'll give you an intensify.
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>>169132110
All your weapons still count as being equipped, so you can give secondaries to the defense target still
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>>169132661
I think you're right. I just got offered 35p
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>>169132872
Manics do have invincibility phases. You can actually get them stuck in one using CC focus or bastille.

it's ass.
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>>169132872
>Manics don't have phases or invincibility moves
u wot m8 that's literally exactly what manics do
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>>169132872
Manics do have invincibility when they teleport around, it'll take longer than usual to come out of it when they're affected by slows like molecular prime
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>>169132152
Try selling just after baro shows up with something new.
You'll probably sell it for more.
>>169132872
>searching for intensify and continuity
>tries to argue with /wfg/ on what basic enemy types do, after all the shit we do in this game
you fucking what?
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Is this an okay warcry build?
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>>169124991
but that's wrong you retard
his build is a 28.789x armor multiplier while yours is 18.61x.
vex armor is multiplicative of total armor value, elemental ward adds armor the same as steel fiber; intensify adds 45% to armor, steel fiber adds 110% to armor, vex armor for 319str is 11.165x armor, 349str is 12.215
his build is 10076.133375 armor for 97.10875% DR, yours is 6513.343375 armor for 95.5969% DR
that's before arcanes, and you both have same health, so he clearly has more EHP
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>>169132561
realistically I just don't see any use-cases where I'd really want 165% more base damage on finishers that would be worth taking up a slot for utility or outright damage which gets factored into finishers anyway and where I wouldn't just be fucked for not having a guaranteed lethal kill with CL - it's in that middle zone of uselessness

I guess there could be some niche applications

>>169132872
the only way you can oneshot manics is if you're a laggy client, normally they sure as fuck have health-gated invuln phases and can't take damage except from DoTs while invis
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>>169133202
>Try selling just after baro shows up with something new.
Good idea. I needed some slots and stuff but I guess it can wait.
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>nitain interception
>rando has Mirage and Simulor
>using Saryn with Ignis
>mfw constant 10 FPS
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>>169133292
>elemental ward adds armor the same as steel fiber
Correct
>intensify adds 45% to armor, steel fiber adds 110% to armor
Also correct
>his build is 10076.133375 armor for 97.10875% DR, yours is 6513.343375 armor for 95.5969% DR
Wrong, both builds are approximately 27k armor after including arcane guardian (which works the same as SF).
Not sure where you're getting your math from.

I'm using a calculator I made but I'll do it the long way:
>304 str, 1.7 armor bonus (SF+guardian)
>350 base armor
>350 * (1 + 1.5*3.04 + 1.7) = 2541 armor before vex
>2541 * 3.04 * 3.5 = 27036 after vex

>334 str, .6 armor bonus (only guardian)
>350 base armor
>350 * (1 + 1.5*3.34 + .6) = 2313 before vex
>2313 * 3.34 * 3.5 = 27038 after vex

>319str, 349str
I was doing it without power drift so I've been using 304 and 334. If I change it to 319 vs 349, it becomes 92.5k EHP for both. So the same deal applies.
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this is the nerdiest thread
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>>169134230
26905 armor for the 319str/SF build without guardian
26656 armor for the 349str build without guardian
with 2 graces steel fiber wins for EHPM Regen
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>>169135436
>not optimizing your regen with arcane energize and QT

trash EHP/MINTBH
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>>169135436
But what about the damage multiplier applied to the Winds of Purity Furis? Even with the 349str build's lower DR the higher damage on the Furis means it can heal more health per shot, possibly enough to outdo the loss of EHPMR from other sources.
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Has DE ever sold the prime accessories seperate from buying the new warframe and weapons.
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>>169136294
always

only comes with plat on consoles though.

You do get spiffy boosters.
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>>169136546
Really? I thought i couldnt get the accessories from the unvaulting of ember and frost.
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>semi-afk rq for sortie intercept
>get gently raped by a mesa every recast
still better than most pub experiences
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>>169135963
Vitality + Primed Vigor = 960 health
switch those for
Quick Thinking + Primed Flow = 300 health + 1170 "Energy Health"
losing the Vigor hurts building up your Scorn a lot as your Sentinel will be dead, also casting vex armor and elemental ward is literally draining your EHP by the thousands; Energy Leech Eximus become the most massive damage source in the game against you EHP wise; Energy Overflow would become a source of Regen, but all other Regen sources replenish your health, not your energy and Grace scales based off of Health max.
That's some shitty EHPMR you got there famalamadingdong
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What's the gold color again?
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>>169137086
>black wukong
WUZ
KONGS
N
SHIET
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>>169135436
Right, but now you're talking about losing out on 9.4% more weapon damage for less than 1% more EHP.
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so they won't nerf corrosive projection directly, but they will do things like make sure it doesn't work as well (or at all, for infested) in armor boost sorties, and "accidentally" let it stop stacking with a harmless hotfix one day

wonder how likely it is that when they "fix" this auras will stack with diminishing returns and 4x corrproj won't fully remove armor anymore...
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>>169137840
wait what, where did you hear this?
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Is there a way to change who is the Host?
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Is Mire a decent sword? I want to build another infested weapon
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>>169138130
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/765918-heads-up-auras-not-stacking-22022017/#comment-8434254
just observed it in action, too, sortie phorid had armor (before I used seeking shuriken) even though we had four people with corrosive projection equipped

the armor sorties thing is nothing new, just how it's worked since they were introduced
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>>169138236
It's old
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>>169138225
Bitch about your 2000 ping until they leave
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>>169137840
Corrosive Projection removes armor the same way enhanced armor modifier boosts it
>4x CP removes 120% of armor
>modifier adds 100 ferrite armor to enemy base stats
>modifier then boosts armor by 100%
>enemies now have 80% of whatever there new armor is after adjusting for scaling and the new armor base
you can still use abilities like avalanche to completely remove their armor
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>>169138618
well, kind of - they all act directly on base armor

for infested at least with the 100 ferrite armor and everything, but corrosive projection has (or at least, had) literally zero effect on their armor - it does stack additively with the +300% armor bonus grineer get, so you're instead left with 280% of their normal armor if you have full corrosive projection

this is all based on what I found when testing it a while back, so I suppose it's possible that it changed, but I'm confident in the results I saw
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Trying to hunt down a stance mod for the infested knuckles, anyone knows a good farming spot?
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Am I a winner finally?
Lanka Riven
+123% Crit Chance
+128% Damage
+75% Flight speed

How much could I jew this for since I don't have a lanka mag build setup yet?
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>less images than posters
is TQ really gone?
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>>169139432
you want -flight speed if you're using it with magnetize or else the bullet smacks into a bunch of obstacles and stops before it can hit the enemies again
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>when the crits are red
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>>169139435
EHPM
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>>169140870
this is my favorite new meme, but I though it was gott's, not tq? or have I grossly misunderstood and it was gott bashing tq for coming up with ehpm this whole time?
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>end up in a mission with a mr 2 and a mr 11
>the mr 11 dies constantly takes forever to get through a mission and has loads of awful looking cosmetics
>the mr 2 gets through missions a little slower than I do but only dies once using his starter gear
I don't understand how some people who spend that amount of time and money on this game can be so fucking bad.
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>>169140930
May evidences point out to tq.
>Tq butthurt about chrom/valkyr armor calculation
>made pastebin solely about it.
>someone disagree and point out why, then you see tq cycle all over again.
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Man, the Furis has so many things wrong with it I'm not even sure a riven can really save it
>No critical chance
>No status chance
>Slow fire rate
>Small clips and barely any ammo
>Poor accuracy
>Low base damage
I think the best riven you can get for it damagewise is like 400% damage and 160% multishot and even then it has a million problems like missing half your shots and running out of ammo
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>>169141556
DELET
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>>169141660
I have a +damage +puncture -fire rate afuris riven
It works with dex furis, and with it they can kill lv100 grineers in like .5 seconds
Not sure the furis is made to be really good, but the loka augment makes it somewhat useable
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>>169141660
hema is a much better heal utility, since secondaries have 40k dps
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>>169141229
>Actually running through a mission and doing autistic spins and parkour
>Not just walking and taking aesthetic breaks every so often
It's like you want your warframe to get sweaty anon
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Are there any dual daggers with stats decent enough to almost be usable? I like their aesthetic
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>>169142223
sweaty pussy
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>>169142156
>hema
you funny guy.
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>>169138916
re-confirmed for infested: damage exactly as calculated for my vaylok using old formulas (rounding errors aside, plus I'm using a riven for which I have no way of knowing the actual precise values) when shooting various infested units in the augmented armor md, no change with corrosive projection on or off, just 100 base ferrite across the board (unless you strip it with corrosive procs, avalanche, ss, etc)

next time we get grinigger or spacejews armor/shield sortie I'll double-check those values, but that should still be +300% base armor for grineer augmented armor (stacking additively with corrosive projection) and +300% base +300% total shield for corpus augmented shields (same deal with shield disruption, applies to both at least in that case)
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>>169142062
Dex Furis has way less spread
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>Trying to use the Furis for anything but healing yourself
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have the banshit pa crafting requirements been mined yet?
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>>169142693
Chasis, Systems, Neuroptics, Orokin Cell
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>>169140930
It's definitely TQ. He originally said it as EHP per minute which is completely wrong (and EHPM is still an incredibly misleading way to say it). Not only is misrepresenting an argument a very TQ-like thing to do, but he completely sperged after getting called out on it.
And it's fucking retarded to begin with so there's that too.
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Any chill clans to join?
Warbros seems too autistic to my tastes
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>>169143321
Lol
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>>169143321
>warbros is too autistic
might as well leave here and join warbros spectrum or the --Q--ueers, if you really like tryhards

just leave here
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>Get my third riven ever
>It's my second for the panthera
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best tits?
best ass?
best hips?
best feet?
best helmet?
best elbows?
best stomach?
best back?
best mound?
best shoulders?
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>>169142819
oh you

>>169142819
well, nothing too unreasonable...

>AllNew1hSG
>barrel/receiver
>5 ocell
>15k

>BansheePrime
>helm/chassis/sys
>5 ocell
>25k

>BansheePrimeChassisComponent
>10 morphics
>1.5k cryo
>2k rubydoo
>7k salvage
>15k

>BansheePrimeHelmetComponent
>2 neurals
>6k alloy
>1.5k circuits
>2 alertium I fucking die every time I see that it's literally called alertium internally
>15k

>BansheePrimeSystemsComponent
>2 argon
>10 controlmodules
>300 oxium
>4.5k ferrite
>15k

>PrimeHeliosPowerSuit
>cerebrum/carapace/sys
>6 ocell
>15k
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>>169143796
saryn
saryn
saryn
banshee deluxe
saryn prime
saryn
saryn base
ember w/ graxx
trinity prime, ember prime, saryn prime
saryn
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>>169143995
>only 2 nitain
I don't believe you.gif
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>>169143796
Loki to all of them
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>>169143796
>Tits
Saryn
>Ass
Ivara
>Feet
Nova/Nyx
>Helmet
Mag
>Elbows
Mesa
>Stomach
Ember
>Back
Ember
>Mound
Trinity
>Shoulders
Saryn
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>>169143995
> are you void and or affiliated with the github for datamines? How do i find hidden weapon stats for projectiles and shit like Sonicor for example (hidden status chance not listed on mod card for the explosion)
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>>169144295
Loki knave right?
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>mastery locks
why does this system exist?
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>>169143796
>hips
Frost harka
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>It’s another "shitter pubs get triggered for being called SLOW" episode
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>>169124809
Hopefully next. Hydroid has always been my favorite despite the fact that he mostly sucks ass
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>>169144373
no I'm just a wannabe skiddy with no workflow or advanced tools or anything, but you can look up EvolutionUnpack and WFPackageParser and do it yourself, or go to semlar.com, or wait until they apparently add this shit in to the ARSE stat cards https://twitter.com/PabloPoon/status/834477649091256320
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>>169144605
To artificially inflate playtime leveling up useless guns
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>>169144295
this guy gets it
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>ywn have femliki or femash
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>>169145865
your when never?
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>>169145943
you're*
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>>169145943
I'm pretty sure this is now literally gersemi valkyr anyway
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As the list of prime parts that exist in both silver/bronze and silver/gold tiers grows, we are brought back to the initial problem that I had when fissures were introduced.

Thus, this it has begun again.

> STILL no Ducat indicator on fissure reward screen
> S T I L L
> T
> I
> L
> L
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Thoughts on the quanta vandal? Am I a rube for investing potato and forma into it?

I think it's fun
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>>169146704
We simply dont have the technology
Or a simple matchmaking system for people running the same radiant relics for that matter.
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These disgusting monstrosities! I think they absorn their victims...
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Why do people think War Cry provided more survivability than Chroma has? Chroma can face tank everything, Valkyr will still get killed quite easily
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>>169147626
>chroma can face tank everything
how much you wanna bet?
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>>169147414
We must purge this place like in the old days.
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is there anywhere interesting or hard to reach in the relay?
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Hey /wfg/

What is your ping limit

200 here
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>>169147849

150. Any higher than that and I might as well just solo it since the doors lag.
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>>169147626
Aren't Zephyr and Wukong the most durable frames ever?
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>>169125901
fucking kek'd. no wonder he was fired.
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I just played through Dark Sector

Are Warframes just power armor that tennos control through psychic stuff?
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>>169146704
>bronze worth 15
>white worth 30
>gold worth 100
there you go
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>>169148856
basically, it's a technocyte puppet in a vaguely humanoid chassis
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>>169148856
They're sorta like evangelion's units
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>>169148856
>he hasnt played TWW

Finish all your quests
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>>169148856
Yeah, biomechanic dolls
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>Euphona P
>Crafting MR requirement: 14
>Riven disposition 0.3 (thats lower than Tonkor and Lex, which sit at 0.5)

Theres gonna be so many mad people because of this, i cant wait for all that salt!
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>>169148938
If you don't know what you're talking about you could always try just shutting the fuck up.
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>>169149404
You can jew Ash Prime systems and Carrier Prime cerebrum m8, people is always looking for those
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>trying to farm the shotgun status mod from hives
>high voltage
>high voltage
>high voltage
I hate this fucking game.
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>>169149308
source?
it's actually 0.30000001 :^)
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>>169149617
That's not the fucking point faggot.
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>>169150143
Im not the one that called you a faggot fucktard
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>>169149404
lol
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>>169149308
tfw only mr13
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>>169150686
grind fast, boi.
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>>169149308
It's going to be trash. People are just being blinded by 30% critical chance. Screencap this
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>>169149649
Trade it with the shotgun mod?
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so what is the best solo frame for "endless" survival?
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>>169151041
But then I'd have to deal with trade chat and the autists who inhabit it.
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>>169151080
invi loki is pretty safe.
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>>169151167
*shivers*
Yah, I rather grind the hive.
Good luck.
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>>169150862
best new pocket sniper.

Doesn't mean there won't be better, since pocket sniper and all that.
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>>169148421
I thought he left for a better company.
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>>169151465
Yes. "Left".
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>That dude with the ultimate shit connection that made your game crash
>>
does anyone know exactly how the elemental sortie conditions work?
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Are Ignis Rivens worth anything? I unveiled one that'll have these stats at max rank
+29.3% reload speed
+31.8 Magazine capacity
+53.7 Status Chance
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>>169151976
I'll give you 5p
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>>169151976
Something stupid like +multishoot +damage +firerate is probably enough to jew out somebody.
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>>169151976
Ignis Rivens are worth something but only when rolled to have Toxic Damage.

Aside from that the normal things will make it worth something, you know, +Damage, Multishot, Firerate, etc.

- Accuracy will not hurt the price btw.
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>>169151787
Is that even possible? usually that guy just d/c and doesn't effect the host.
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So since the queen is vore-focused non stop, what other fetishes would you like to see get more representation?
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>>169152985
vehicular sex
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>people unveil soma, sybaris, hek, tigris, lex and aklex rivens like its no one's business
>the best riven ive ever unveiled was a cernos one almost 3 months ago

the most recent riven I got was a daikyu riven, and before that a tysis riven. why does this game hate me so much
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>>169152985
dismemberment and general guro/blood stuff
also loliframe
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>>169152985
Fatframes
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>>169152985
futas are definitely underrepresented
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Whats the major diff between CE Hikou and CE Hikou Prime if CE is a flat damage proc? Wondering if i should bother trying to trade for one
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>>169128546
Primed Streamline and Intensify first.
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>>169153390
I feel you, I unveiled a Grakata mod not too long ago, I don't really think any goym will go for it.

You'll get a good mod eventually, I got a couple Zarr mods and a Rubico one too
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>>169154067
primed stretch
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>>169153958
Hikou classic have a higher fire rate, which is about the only thing I can think of in this situation
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when is DE gonna add an endless kuva mission so I don't have to grind these shitty ones all day
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>>169155536
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>>169155536
>he doesn't know
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>>169129446
>7700 health on inaros with primed vigor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblR0eIRW-I
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>>169155787
>>169155946
am i missing something here
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>Rifle Riven
>Scan a Simaris target without abilites, with a Hobbled key, without taking damage
>its a Seeker
>bring Ivara
>arc traps in literally every hallway
>keep accidentally hitting barrels with their 20m blast radius
Holy shit, and the one time I did it right out of like 6 attempts, I realized I forgot the damn hobbled key the whole time so I didn't get it. Probably shouldn't have picked a Galleon Exterminate to run, but I knew for a fact there were seekers on that mission and I didn't want to look around.
All for a Rubico Riven, which is actually pretty nice if I can get reload speed+crit on it. When I finally completed it in literally the first room there were 7 barrels in the same small-ish room. If I hit any of them they would have chained and blew up the whole room.
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Do you guys ever buy anus statues, or just do all yall just sell em?
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>>169156152
>so I don't have to grind
it's very simple anon
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>>169152441
-accuracy doesnt exist
>>
Baro is coming on 2 days

Isnt it too soon since his last appearing?
>>
>>169156725

Just take Nezha or Rhino. You can cast Halo or Iron Skin at the beginning and it won't count as an ability as long as the target isn't nearby, while preventing damage from registering. Try to catch the target unalerted and scan from range, as well. I've had the best luck on tilesets with lots of open space.
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>>169157237
its been two weeks so no
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>>169157237
Anon, are you having brain problems? it's been exactly 2 weeks since he showed last time.
That's how baro works.
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took long enough

fugg
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>>169157681
Still shit desu
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>MR22 joins my sortie infested MD mission
>He's a Loki
>He's spamming disarm
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>>169157907
comparative to the other rolls ive gotten its a god send

im a slave to the kuva
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>>169158158
>im a slave to the kuva
why does farming this stuff feel so good?
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>>169157273
I thought of that, but I wasn't sure that Iron Skin would work, because DE.
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>>169157094
its called + recoil anon
>>
>>169157979
what's wrong with radial damage/knockdown?
>>
>>169158429
+recoil isnt the same as -accuracy.

You could completely eliminate recoil on a weapon and that wouldnt make it accurate.
>>
>>169158293
I for one enjoy the company. Those Guardians just playing with you, thinking they're invincible behind their fatsuits.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Ckr2u2Bm6F
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>>169156725
I did that exact riven with that exact synthesis target earlier today.

Did a low level mission on earth with nezha and finished it in a minute easily.
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>>169158429
recoil is weapon kickback
-accuracy makes you bullet spray less consistent and vice versa, pls stop giving your own meaning of things as gospel
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Hey just a quick checkup; Rage is based off the FLAT damage on health AFTER armor has been applied? That means it only works on a mediocre level with Chroma, right?

I'm messing around with a lmao SF+AA+Vit+144%power config on the builder and I'm wondering if I should consider Rage into the equation. Zenurik should generally be able to generate enough energy for casting both powers at the same time before their duration is up barring things like energy drain.

>pls no suggest cutie for this build, just theorycrafting
>>
>Do Radiation + Cold
fuck me this is fun. This is what the game could have been like. Great shame that it does no damage whatsoever.
>>
>>169158548
>>169158831
i know. he was just very appearantly talking about + recoil.
>>
>>169157979
>he doesn't know about the max str max range min duration infested Loki nuke plus radiation CC

Loki truly is the most versatile frame
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>hate all the retarded pubs that fail basic missions
>soloing stuff 90% of the time or carrying entire teams for any mission that requires some thought
>end up making my wf edgy as fuck
stalker faction when
>>
I've got a ton of Zenurik built up since finishing off Overflow + Mastery. Any of the other abilities worth messing with?
>>
whats the best place to sustain a 3x melee combo multiplier?
>>
>>169159482
use a weak weapon with both combo mods, speed mods, wukong, and go attack something with high hp/invincibility
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>>169159201
Deal

Its Conclave only
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>>169159201
I really like that helm. Makes rhino look like a futuristic suit of armor. Really brings back the old feel of warframe as a sci-fi space shooter and not a mob resource grinder.

I played a sortie 1 extermination with mediocre weapons as a cover shooter and it was pretty fun
>>
>>169159482
I do those in infested survival because the fuckers wont leave you alone. I like doing it with Hirudo for the atatata.
>>
>>169159482
The dude that drops frost parts
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>>169159302
I think there's one that functions like arcane energize. The one that leaves an area of energy regeneration also helps your team and get skills started quicker but they're probably not worth the additional wait.
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>>169159662
>edge teshin faction
>hone your skills tenno
>tatertot gets swole and trained and can parkour like rescue operative
>dual nikanas as syndicate weapon
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>>169159482
Sparring weapon or dual swords with only speed and combo duration mods. Wukong helps if you somehow don't have the latter, because he has innate combo duration extension.
>>
>>169160143
Lots of newer starchart folks should also have relentless combination. Would recommend
>>
Nezha prime with tiny developing tits when?
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>Finally broke my 9 streak of Orokin buttplugs
>Affinity booster
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>>169159662
Deal fucking done.
I'm already sitting on conclave standing for days due to weeklies.
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>>169159860
get mastery first.
Then get Energy spike.
Then get Energy Surge or Systemic Override.

Mastery is obvious, cuts down the time it takes to get it going.
Spike gives extra energy from orbs (and gives it to teammates)
Override gives a short period of higher eff and surge gives a small field of bonus regen for a small time.
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>>169160882
You want my laser rifle riven? I'll trade you it for 2 filled buttplugs
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>>169089319
Here ya go mate.

Stolen from /r/warframe
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>>169161431
thanks, i figured i could just link it in chat afterwards and i could. i appreciate it though.

note that in the game files the euphona has 35% crit chance, what a sleek
>>
Are all of the relics containing Trinity Prime Neuroptics currently vaulted? How the fuck am I supposed to get to the last rank of Steel Meridian if I can't GET the thing I need?
>>
>>169160780

Nezha is a boy
>>
>>169161292
I just realized the orokangs must have extremely flexible holes if they used them as buttplugs
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>>169161691
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>>169161691
Really? They're vaulted? So that's why they sell so well. A helm goes for 20p alone but people want the full set for 40p HAHAHAHAHAHA. thanks anon.
>>
>>169161431
>not maxed target cracker and heated charge
he doesn't deserve it.
>>
>>169161771
Rectal insertions were commonplace in the Orokin Era so they had to resort to more and more drastic examples.
>>
>>169161689
Hoooly shit. I guess they had to include the literal best secondary in the game with Whoframe prime in order to sell PA packs. Gonna take another shot and guess that it has damage falloff? That fire rate, though.
>>
>>169161689
>that crit chance
Sexy, even without the sleek.
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>>169161771
wait, could a tenno use transference with those plugs for their orokang kings?
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>>169162238
>>169162303

i didnt find the pellet count, the rest should be alright this way
>>
>>169071176
what gun is that?
>>
>>169162439
>red crit shotgun pistol
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>>169162439
hmmm
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>>169162439
This is retarded.
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>>169162439
I bet this is like Galatine and Tigris Prime all over again, fake stats
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Anyone have any ideas for coloring Nidus? I love how the green and orange interact, but I'm clueless as to what would work well with them.
>>
>>169163643
Winners of the contest got banshee prime access about a week early.
We know the confirmed stats.
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>>169162864
>>169163018
>>169163372
>>169163643

read the stats wrong, it really is only 30% crit. damn.
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>>169163807
I just hate the awkward magazine size
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>>169163902
Put hydraulic crosshairs on and it gets to redcrit territory.
Might be worth actually using the bladed rounds for secondaries on it.
>>
>>169163902
Hey, that's still pretty damn good.
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>>169162439
That's just fucking ridiculous, but I don't use weapons without punch through. If it even gets a Riven, it will probably be weak. Gotta hope for a Punchthrough+fire rate mod, with a side of toxin for viral/corrosive.
>>169163902
Still pretty damn good.
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>decide to run heiracon because starting to get low on relics
>mr 2, 4, and 11
>don't even remember what frames they had because they did fuck all
>we finish three but a faggot went by himself and destroys the fourth
>trigger excavator while the plebs go to extract
>i'll finish the forth a second before they extract
>A1
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soon Warframe will be ravaged by melee rivens with 300% reach bullshit and memeing strike macrotards will be in every mission trivializing everything
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>>169164059
i posted above already about this. dont ever get a riven for it, the disposition is HORRIBLE.

it is 0.3. even the lex has 0.5 right now, and that was the lowest until now
>>
>>169164070
You not need those or something?
I'm fucking dying here, 20 of them and not a single stilletto barrel.
>>169164162
>Soon
You mean now?
>>
What the chances that DE will shit over Arcane Energize? The description says like you got n% chance to replenish energy to the nearby allies, but it also just gives you more energy than usual. I don't see it saying that anywhere.

Sleek?
>>
can you only get a sortie reward once a day?
>>
>>169163936
Use Ice Storm then. The status is too low to do anything so stuff whatever on it and shoot.
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>want to upgrade Nekros to Skeletor Prime
>neuroptics takes 12k polymer bundles
>down to 2k somehow
wat do
Venus survival and defense barely yielded 500, even while running around desecrating everything
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>>169164295
No, it's a 10/20/30/40% chance to give 25/50/75/100 energy to you and nearby allies.
The original energy orb is only the proc condition.
>>
Yep, resets at around 1 EST
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>>169164774
Uranus survival.

Also go pub for more enemies.
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>>169164524
Of course you dangus
>>
>>169164162
honestly the power level on melee weapons is so far beyond normal weapons barring the downside of >melee that I would be shocked if DE ever released melee Rivens before damage 3.0
>>
>>169164931
meant for
>>169164524
>>
>>169164774
is that even a question? use your normal nekros to farm the polymer out of uranus.
>>
>>169164931
>>169164983
kinda figured, thanks.
that will give me time to enjoy my 3d credit booster!
>>
euphoria prime base pellet count is 10, can someone confirm in-game?
>>
ded, nu when
>>
>>169165213
Wanna ERP? I'm online right now
>>
>>169165364
I'm in the middle of nowhere with no pc and barely any internet :'c
So no
>>
>>169165008
Im pretty sure i heard melee rivens were coming soon in a devstream
>>
>>169164960
>>169165118
I, uh, haven't done very much in Uranus. Does it have more frequent/larger quantities of polymer?
>>
>>169165437
we can do it right here
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>>169165008
> Damage 3.0
> Ever
Not gonna happen.
>>
>/Lotus/Interface/Icons/Store/Primes/EuphoraPrime.png
so close
>>
does anyone remember the room in the void with the bridges over a bottomless pit, reverse waterfall leading to a locked door, and the stupid little button "puzzle" in the center that was broken for years? I think they just straight up removed it, after they fixed it

does DE ever address this or make note of when they add/remove tiles for tilesets?
>>
>>169166187
I remember that one and no they rarely announce tile additions or removal unless it's something major, or at least something used in a quest of some kind. I still miss that one vertical asteroid tile, it had about three floors with a central tower comprised of catwalks and it royally fucked every waypoint each time it spawned but it was also one of the earliest examples of the schism between slow and fast players.
>>
>>169165481
>DE brings acolytes back just before the release of melee rivens
>DE increases the riven unveil chances of the best maiming strike weapons to players who trade shit tons of plat all day.
>DE makes gorillians off WTS GODLY BOLTACE RIVEN 5K PLAT
>the demand for maiming strike skyrockets and people buy plat in a frenzy to maximize their meme weapons
It's the perfect plan.
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I'm bored
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>>169166187

It might still show up in Derelict. I swear I've seen it there somewhat recently.
>>
>>169165575
IGN? I need some as well and can bring along my hydroid.
>>
>>169166721
I don't think there was ever a derelict version of that tile
>>
>>169165575
I got alittle time to spare. I can lend my Nekros.
>>
Platinum question: why do autists defend taking Frost on Hieracon? (not talking about levels where a single poop shot can pop the extractor)

I was BEGGED to take Frost instead of Vauban (with augment, ofc).
>>
>>169166850
>>169166938
You two have at it, I'm going to bed
Good luck my dudes
>>
Getting a fair price for a legendary core is so hard it may as well be untradeable
>>
>>169167510
Because a youtuber told them frost is the best frame for any form of defending.
>>
>>169167510
Power carriers can shoot and fuck over extractors. Vauban is still great but that one enemy can be a pain, ideally you want both Frost and Vauban.
>>
>>169167510
Vauban can't do shit to the power carriers. Enjoy losing because there's enemies with guns.
>>
>>169167525
350p
>>
>>169167621
They are out of the effective range, opinion is discarded.
>>
>>169167580
Except infested are mostly melee. He could not argue with me but go aggressive af.
And, desu, that was R20
>>
>>169167941
The main problem on Hieracon are those energy carriers, since they can easily punch through the non level scaling extractors (seriously DE why the fuck don't they scale). Frost prevents them from shredding the extractor and with Chilling Globe can also provide some decent protection against the melee. I prefer a team of DPS frames and either Vauban or Slowva to deal with things, though.
>>
>>169167525
I sold my first core for 375 and am probably gonna sell the second one for the same.

I have no idea who even buys these things because the 1 gorillion trade tax eats a huge chunk of any savings you might make when stuffing it into a legendary mod.
>>
>>169168245
They technically save some credits by trading for a core and they save roughly 40k endo.
>>
I dont know how but the ospreys on Hieracon can get through repelling bastille most of the times.
>>
>>169168335
Credits have infinite demand but by the endo of your geimu you won't need any more mod juice.

Unless you want to max a new Primed Disappointment or something on release.
>>
>>169167510
Because a well built frost has more tools in his Arsenal to impede Enemies than even the best built Vauban has.

When you need to be mobile, when your allies need clear lines of sight, when the health of the point you need to defend is no issue, These are the times to use Vauban. Interception and LoR.

When you need to play Defense, Mobile Defense or Excav, these are the times to use frost.

It's got dickbuttfuckin nothing to do with the enemies you're fighting, it's about the tools at your disposal, and frosts tools are more widely applicable in these game modes than Vaubans one (1) and only tool is.

>>169167580
The youtuber is right.

>>169167941
> Mostly
Weasel word.
> Melee
Doesn't make a difference. Frost has the same amount of area denial at a simple increase in energy expenditure, easily counteracted by;
Pizza
Zenurik
Trinity
Arcane Enhancments

There's no cure for Bastille not stopping projectiles though.

>>169167725
> Effective
weasel word.
>>
>>169167510
>tfw you've been soloing Heiracon for 4-5 rotations without much trouble aside from spawns for like a year now
I don't bring him to pubs, but still. Am I retarded? Those carriers fucking sting, man.
>>
>>169169221
Frost isn't bad in pubs, desu. Most people appreciate him and if they complain about globe switch to Avalanche spam.
>>
Guys, how do I get some Nitain quickly? Advice/help/tips?
>>
>>169169727
Alerts
>>
>>169169727
find some means to ensure unconsciousness for just under six hours at a time. Granted this only works from your perspective.
>>
>>169168396
personally i find repelling to be too unreliable for my taste, so i use a non-repelling build instead.
>>
>>169167510
Stop being lazy just start reading some info out there.
>>
>>169169727

If you have enough autism, Sabo caches.
>>
>>169169039
Oh booooi

Hierarcon is infested def. Yes, we take the enemy in consideration, but you want to talk in general. Just the fact that most of the enemy types are melee and tanky kinda reminds you that when you are restricted with energy, Frost dies down in efficiency.
And, yes, depending on Trinity Prime, ayy lmao, please continue. I'll stop you where you mention playing PUGs.
And speaking of the only tool. It gets the job done without letting the extractor to blow up from the bunched up runners. FYI
>>
>>169169302
> and if they complain about globe
Why the fuck should people complain about globe on excavation? I can understand tonkorfags on infest defense, when they need to directly shoot tonkor at the defended object. I can understand people of sortie defence, expecially when limbo exists. But for Hieracon frost's globe is the best tool you ever seen. You just take any decent melee (okay, melee with crit and naramon specially for 5-6+ rotation retards, for whom reloading mission is impossible task), put on a globe and just start killing every infest right when it reaches globe. Could also take that freezing aug and put 2-4 partly overlapping spheres, so no infest will ever stay unfrozen. Mana is not a problem today. Even if you put all primed melee mods with blood rush, most melee won't requre more, than 2 polarities, comparing with at least ignis, which might eat 5-6 of your formas to become good. When melee was introduced, it was clearly designed to deal with infests, so why not use it againt them? It's not hard, with globe it's even safer, just don't forget to put hp and -status duration in case of more, than 4-5 toxic eximuses simultaneously, in your frame. And that's all, infests will die, excavator will dig, batteries will fly to you on their own will, you just press e and sometimes pick up battery. And even if your melee for some reasons can't clear infests inside globe for giving you that hald second to pick up, you just recast globe, and all of them are flying away instantly. For some complete retards, who cannot into shooting, you know, try to stay INSIDE sphere, it's not blocking your bullets, when you're inside. Or take Mesa.
Sinceresly, your pub frost.
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>65 total riven rerolls
>still not a single worthwhile or usable card to date

I'm done doing anything but idling kuva missions until the game decides to give me something, fuck it.
>>
>>169151518
DE is not a good company anon. Both users and people working there look miserable, only ones that look happy are the ones banking on the moolah made by the workers and suckers like us.
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>>169170727
Globe is just a very very small Molecular Prime in that situation.
Slow Nova >>>>>> Frost.
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>>169170992
Even though nova's ult prevents your enemies from going fast, it doesn't prevents them from shooting at excavator. And people tend to run 2+ excavators simultaneously, so even in worst case of single frost in squad this frost can put up to 4 globes to all excavators, while nova's constant presence are required for each one.
>>
>>169170992
A very small MP that blocks bullets, costs less and lasts forever, including when the extractors loop back around to older areas.
>>
>>169170628
> Implying I have no idea how Bastille works
Calm your fuckin tits boi.

>>169170628
> Depending on pugs
You wouldn't have to rely on pugs if you could make some friends.

>>169170992
The only defense where frost and nova shouldn't both be in the roster is sortie defense.
>>
new bread
>>169171456
>>169171456
>>169171456
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>>169171254
Nice shitposting that does not make an argument. Pretty neato.
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