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Waiting for New Content Edition

Ded and Bloated
>>169071176

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries


>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/DZc7JO4.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS
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CURRENT UPDATE: The Glast Gambit
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/763107-the-glast-gambit-update-19110191101/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Valkyr
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
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For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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>>169171456
kill me
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Threadly reminder that there is STILL no ducat indication on fissure reward selection.
> S T I L L
> T
> I
> L
> L
inb4 muh color coding
[Spoiler]shut up retard
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>>169171456
>completely out of Axi V5 relics
>I made all of them radiant
>not a single Valkyr Prime chassis
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>>169171538
do it yourself you lazy ass faggot, why the fuck do i always have to do everything for you, get up right now, right fucking now, and do something productive like killing yourself for a change. youll feel better afterwards.
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>Siege invasion
>Have to do 10 wave defense mission 3 times
I just wanted to fap
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>>169171254
>Frost
>Good for any defense
Wrong, he's good for defense if and only if the primary difficulty is actual defense. In many cases, you'd be better off with more DPS so you clear faster, like infested defense up to level ~60.
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>>169171456
>Bloated
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>>169171716
I run Heiracon everyday and I haven't seen an Axi V5 in 2 months. Chassis is the last part I need too. I don't even want to use Valkyr I want her for fashion.
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>>169172461
>I don't even want to use Valkyr I want her for fashion.
Good taste. Shit frame but cute.
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>>169172461
You're killing me here. I didn't even know it was that hard to get, now I feel even worse.
>>169173060
Yep, also want her for fashion.
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>>169173318
another anon here, 260k in relic packs and at least one 2k heiracon run every day for two weeks before I got my first and currently only axi V5. The run I used it on crashed the client and I lost it and whatever it would have contained.

Some of us are just dedicated fuckholes for RNGesus.
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>>169173417
I'll take you for a run or two if you want.
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>>169173741
Thanks but I went and did what I should have done right from the start; sell fodder for plat and just buy the parts off someone else. I'll know better come banshit prime's release and won't repeat that mistake.
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Are they really saving the Akvasto Prime for Mesa? Unless they really fuck with the stats that shit is going to be incredibly underwhelming
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>fuck you teabagger didnt you ' re mother teach you better
People who get upset over teabagging are a riot. The guy also tried saying it was childish and that he was probably older than me though as soon I pushed him about his age suddenly he didn't want to talk about it and age didn't matter anymore.
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>>169174331
Mesa is coming with Aksomati prime
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>specifically put long over 20 survival into recruiting
>half of the group want to leave at 20 min exactly
what the fuck is wrong with people?
Do they not realize the boosters stack? Do they not get you get more shit by going past 20 with 4CP, and there's no downsides? only the upside of the mission able to last longer than you can join it?
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>>169174331
Mesa is a popular frame and Akvasto Prime are a long awaited weapon. DE would make a ton of money on a combo like this. Enough to recoup the eventual loss they'll make during Hydroid Prime Access.
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>>169174331
It's probably coming in a couple days with baro like the aklex did.
It isn't
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>>169175001
I just want the leaving at 20 meme to die already. It made sense in the old system since you had to wait for the next rotation C for a chance at the goodies. Hell, the new system gives you a random refined relic after Rot C.
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>get this for 50p
>didn't even notice the +damage
should I make Sweeper Prime into death spitter or reroll until I can make it a better status spitter
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>>169175348
That's exactly my point.
it's fucking retarded.
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>credit gains so out of whack people consider leaving at wave 5/first excav on dank sectors

I blame DE.
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>>169175351
> Using sentinel weapons
What a gross meme.
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>>169175712
blowing up the void was a mistake.
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>>169175806
>not using Diriga with decuntstroctor prime
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>>169175712
That used to be a good method of credit gain, what happened?
Not everyone can run raids, due to their incompetence.
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>>169175858
>tfw their script checks have made it harder to slap it on anything but helios

It's still possible but goddamn it I'm never paying attention when I manage it.
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>>169175874
It is a good credit gain.

There should be something better, though. Now it fucks up pub games (esp akkad and hiera) where you want to go longer because affinity/rewards but the retarded pubbies will always leave early.

I just had a hieracon run where one of the retards tried to run away at 7th excav.

Comfiest credit gain is saving sortie 3 for daily reset for shitters like me tho. Easiest 200k with boosters.
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>>169175806
oh jesus christ it's a meme? I actually thought sweeper prime was supposed to be good
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>>169176192
Everything is a meme, Jack.
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>>169176192
I guess if you were confused then I should at least take a moment to explain.

Sweeper Prime isn't actually a terrible weapon, far as weapons go. Blah blah stats blah blah. Problem is that Sentinels are squishy as fuck and there's no way to get em back once they're dead, short of you dying obviously. So elevating their threat level is a bad idea if you want them to survive. And I mean, it's not like any of their weapons are good enough to warrant gambling on a dead sentinel anyway.
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How do you guys make the excavator survive for more than a second on long excav runs?
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>>169176682
CC and or dakka
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>>169176682
Oxium Prime
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>new Loki tennogen is literally called Incubus Set
Creator dun goofed should've called it Loki succubus (male)
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>>169176816
Thanks

>>169176970
Sounds like a new alertium
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>>169173417
given the price of the chassis, you could have farmed and done the barest effort to make plat and got it in under a 3rd of that time.

Even selling syndicate shit would have worked.
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Anyone here wants to farm out old Nyx relics for Chasis/Helmets (Meso N1, Neo N1) ?

I'm up for some Nova and Ember (not Axi) relics too.
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>>169177345
>people are selling it for only 90p Right Now
I'm tempted to lower the price of secura and sancti to 40 each just to get it for "10"
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>>169177218
epic
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>tfw dropping all the credits/endo to max Hyperion Thruster
A-at least I'm faster than J3 now.
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>>169177345
Some moronic part of me wanted to get that shit from a fissure run, I have no satisfying answer for why I felt that way.
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>>169176068
>There should be something better
There is, it's called 25/50 Index.
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>stopped playing like two months ago
>bored enough to check /wfg
>"minky left DE"
> based Geoff takes his place
>mfw
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>>169177672
not affected by boosters tho
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>>169177818
But that's wrong. It doesn't state that it is affected (nor does the drop in the result reflect this), but your actual credit value is indeed affected by booster.
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>>169177856
What is the best way to do index then?
I'm not that knowledgable on the subject, only did it for quest
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>>169177791
As long as they still allow shitty fan fiction tier user skins it doesn't matter who's in charge.
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>>169175990
I've actually had an easier time doing it recently
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>>169177923
I usually run Loki; as well as Tigris Prime. Kill the enemies, run by an energy node right as invisibility ends, pop your 2, stay invisible 24/7 until you turn in 25~ points, and then afk.
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>>169177549
>Biggest drain of all the mods
>Completely invalidated just by having Itzal
And the drop chance is fairly low to boot, right?
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>>169178037
Odonata Prime is really good for J3; the 1 doubles+ your damage.
Is the drop chance low? I got 2 from a single Mobile Defense, like 15s apart from each other.
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>>169178026
Doesen' loss of subsequent matches make you lose everything?
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>>169178235
You're doing Endurance. It says "Best of 3" but it's actually only 1 match. Due to how the timer works it's ALMOST CERTAINLY (aka in 100+ runs I've never seen it happen but I suppose it's theoretically possible) to lose once you get 25 points.
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>>169177791
wut?
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>>169178306
Wouldnt it be better to run max endurance and get 100 points for 400 profit with booster?
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Does stand united only factor in base armor? for Nidus, would change it from being amazing to just great.
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Is buying this for 100p a good deal?
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>>169177791
It's ironic because he knew this shit was coming and was ruining a lot of shit in a desperate attempt to appear like he was still relevant. We lost the best Tennogen designer over it.
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>>169178936
>guaranteed crits
>guaranteed 4 projectiles
yes
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>>169179171
>>169178936
well, that is until they decide that oops, aklex prime rivens need a nerf because it has the same base damage as the lexp but a higher total damage output potential and it only has a neutral disposition because DE's fucking retarded system is literally based on usage stats
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>>169179240
>balancing around usage stats
hey if it works for pokemon maybe it'll work for warframe too
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>>169176379
Sentinel weapons can proc Growing Power and a Blast Sweeper with high fire rate can serve as minor crowd control. I have never had my Carrier Prime die to anything except AOE damage so reducing its threat level would do nothing.
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>>169177218
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>>169180950
Gonna need a non Moonrune source on that buddy.
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>>169181081
>being this new
click the arrow and search it on iqdb or Google
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>>169181107
On mobile familia
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>>169181150
its software
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>>169180751
I agree with this guy. Even unequipping the weapon, the sentinel will die either way. Might as well let it kill/CC one or two enemies (or a lot of enemies with certain wep)
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Is Volt even going to be worth stocking up on? It feels like he's one of the easier primes to get, I think I've wound up with over 10 sets without actively trying to get him.
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>Augmented enemy armor sorties halve the strength of CP
I never realised that
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>>169181671
halve? more like quarter, but it's actually not even quite that straightforward

see last thread
>>169142540
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Has there actually been any Salvage sorties on any of the platforms?
It doesn't sound fun.
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>>169173060
>shit frame
>he doesn't know
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Inaros just finished, can you please post your builds for me to try to emulate?
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>>169183430
Just eat everything you see.
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Guys, how do I get some Nitain quickly? Advice/help/tips?
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>>169183430
>vitality
>steel fiber
>max range
>max efficiency
nothing else matters, just use pocket sand
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>>169184310
Iirc they drop from Sabotage caches.
Rarely.
That's the fastest way.
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>>169184310
>>169184460
2% chance from the "C" cache of the "reactor sabotage 2.0" missions, so you have to find all 3 caches. Even with a dedicated team of fast frames it takes about 3 minutes per 2% chance. Doing it solo takes about 10 minutes per 2% chance.
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>>169183430
Basically >>169184441
Continuity and Rage aren't bad, but that's about it.
Reminder to have bug armor up, and use pocket sand often.
That's It.
His other two (three, if you count downed) abilities are negligible.
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>>169184460
>>169184618
Ah damn, thank you both. My Zhuge might never be completed at this rate.
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>>169184621
if you put on rage I suggest taking off steel fiber so you take more damage for more energy, only problem with rage is that enemies CC'd by pocket sand won't damage you to generate energy.
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>there are people who defend mastery locks
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>>169185412
The whole mastery system is stupid. Max one rank per day, you get nothing from ranking up, stupid tests, etc.
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>>169185412
>there are people who still play this boring garbage
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Please post good corpus weapons
no memes, thanks
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>Fissure spawns a crewman under the stairs
I'm actually impressed that DE had the forethought to add a cover marker for him to make use of

>>169186034
Sorry babe, the credit whip is their only good weapon. Everything else is outclassed by superior Grineer duct tape and whisker technology.
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>>169186034
good again corpus? just mod for toxin
corpus themed weapons? ohma, lanka, opticor, synoid gammacor, synoid simulor
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>>169186034
I like Supra, Lecta, Dera, Opticor
They're all mostly bad though
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>main valkyr
>top damage in every mission
>top kills in every mission
>least damage taken in every mission
>DEAC or nonDEAC it's always the same
Why do you guys think she's shit again? Are you actually gobbling up TQ's bullshit that greedily?
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>>169186434
>main

stopped reading your post like DE stopped caring about raids
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>>169186034
>>169186285
amprex, quanta vandal, angstrum, sonicor, and staticor as well
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>>169186489
>he doesn't have a main frame
How sad...
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>>169186434
>fag hasn't posted in a days since moving to /feg/
>lel boogy man tq

off yourself along with the other memeing shitposters
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>>169186434
Hard not to be top anything when you only play solo.

>>169186762
Lead by example anon-kun. Lead by example.
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>>169186816
>solo
>projecting his lack of friends on others
Okay.
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>topmost loadout is Equinox
>never bother changing/editing loadouts anymore
>realize I've been using the exact same thing since about a week after Nidus came out
I guess I have a main now.
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>>169181972
>run around and kill shit for X amount of time, now with no relic rewards to make up for it

Pub sorties already play interception like this 99% of the time. I'd welcome the addition, it's a fun enough game mode and all the salt is just for Nidus drop chances. Brain dead relic farm too.
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>>169187141
a lot of the salt is because some people have already done that mission 100s of times before DE just copy/pasted it onto a node and tried to pass it off as new
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>>169186943
Very satisfying frame to use.

Try out a max duration clone augment build too. It inherits your mods and is super accurate with some weapons, and shit accurate with some others (can't hit a point blank mob with an opticor or Soma Prime, pops heads across the map with prisma grakata)
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>>169187390
>>169188280
DELET
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I'm MR21 and have never bothered with arcanes, though I have around two dozens from sporadic raiding.

None of the seem to be any good.

Only Grace and Barrier stand out as they seem to be universally decent.
And Fury+Strike seem fitting to a valk or melee-volt, but I stopped meeleing after SecuraLecta nerf.

Is there a redpill to be taken here?
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>>169187316
I never knew the clone duration was affected by mods, how high can it get?
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i love nidus
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>>169188829
>Bugchasers
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is nidus saryn's son or boyfriend
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>>169180950
came buckets
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>>169188930
>not giftgiving fetishists
>>169189009
Saryn's husband's son
>>169189056
>literally gay
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>>169179050
>We lost the best Tennogen designer over it.

Damn, I need me some backstory for this
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>>169188635
energize is expensive but has incomparably strong universal utility, like zenurik's energy spike but better in every way

my first full set was trickery, used it on my shared syandana for slightly lazier stealth/bladestorm spam kills for a long time till I moved it to my ash helm after I got energize... but that was when blade storm was actually good

others have applications, like grace and guardian in particular, but for the most part you can safely and happily ignore them altogether
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>>169179995
oh shit, this is a pokémon? I thought it was titania fan art.
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>have like 12 ciphers
>it says 0 when im hacking a non-sortie terminal
mmmm....
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>>169189582
it's the game telling you to stop being a lazy ass
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>>169189582
you need to put them in your gear to use them
>>169189739
>going slow

the default keybind is y, you can cipher before the puzzle frame even loads using the keybind
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>do some spy missions for fun
>accidentally get all froggo parts
wew
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>>169191546
quit bumping this thread, just let it die, be free
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>>169191619
no
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>>169191619
at least it isn't as dead as /rwg/, /sbg/, or /sdvg/
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>>169191901
its ded if it needs to keep getting bumped every 30 mins
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>>169191901
/sbg/ and /sdvg/ are literally dead
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>>169189243
But Energize only shares my energy to others, it doesn't give energy to me when others pick up their orbs, does it?
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>>169192000
when it procs it makes a pulse like death orbs activated by prime and gives you 100 energy
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my warframe is strong
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WE
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>>169192329
WUZ
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niggers
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>>169192407
OROKANGZ
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so nidus 1 and 2 gets even more strong the more mutation stacks you have right?
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>>169192715
1 and 4.

2 is just cc
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>tfw you farm and farm and farm for a frame and when you finally get it: it's shit
Looking at you boobin.
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>>169194429
stupid valkshitter
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>yfw access to baro is p2w
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>>169194583
>posts an image of a disappointed cat
>must automatically play Valk
Okay.
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>>169194587
happy_merchant.jpg^2
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>>169194587
the prize platinum isn't tradeable either, because its given by lottery
>100k with only 20k worth of stuff to spend it on
I guess you could go full meme and buy several years worth of boosters
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A FUCKING STATUEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169188664
My prime cont and narrow minded aren't maxed and I can get it to 20 seconds, which is usable.

It's a shame form swapping fucks with any other decent build
>>169189185
He's probably talking about the Deluxe skin creator who pushed back over Ember Deluxe and was subsequently let go.
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>>169194429
vauban is great. how many raids do you get invited to even with your 8 forma tennogen Valk?
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>>169194587
>sold out within mins of it being available
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>>169195690
>the valk assumption again
Where do you people get this idea?
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>>169195834
literally same thread
>>169186434
>>169186636
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>>169195834
>>169195834
>Where do you people get this idea?
implying it's not 100% completely true
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>>169195963
>>169195949
So everyone who posts cats is immediately the same person?
Everyone who cat posts must absolutely love valk?

I don't understand.
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>>169196068
yes
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>>169196105
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>>169196068
Yes, you fucking valkshitter
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>>169196341
Jokes on you. I play titty anna.
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>>169196464
>playing cuckframe
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>>169196341
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/valkshitter/
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At least post dogs if you're going to be a cumguzzling avatar fag you fucking feline degenerate
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>>169196532
>all those posts
TQ sure does love to spam his shit doesn't he?
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>>169196514
>cuckframe

what the fuck did you just say about my titse, asshole?!
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>>169196532
how to out yourself in 10 seconds flat
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>>169196749
>Oberon is canonically married to Nova
>the ceremony happened AFTER DE added Titania
top cuck
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>>169196836
>Oberon is canonically married to Nova
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>>169196931
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Nuptia
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>>169197071
That's dumb, DE is dumb.
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>>169197071
>DE promoting child marriages.
Huh, how "progressive" of them.
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>>169196532
>seeing that jpg made me smile

over 10 years of watching a shitshow will make you one.
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>>169197071
What the everloving fuck, they made that canon to the game universe?
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>>169196931
https://track4.mixtape.moe/jhgpdl.mp4
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>>169197263
holy fuck the cringe.
i promised myself i wont watch this and you made me witness this
why would anyone take this god damn planet seriously anymore

nuke canada
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Some1 post Sorties, can't go ingame right now
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>get curious as to what this gottfaust thing is and how you build it
>look it up in game
>4 forma valk prime
>gersemi skin and bastet helmet
>hunhow armor and syandana
>galatine prime
>tigris prime
>sonicor
>smeeta shitvat
>female operator in prime suit
>all colored black, white, and gold

Holy shit. How can there be so much cancer in a single place?
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>>169197474
Vallis (Mars) | Sabotage | HAZARD_MAGNETIC | KRIL
23h 43m 31sOdin (Mercury) | Spy | EXIMUS | KRIL
23h 43m 31sStöfler (Lua) | Mobile Defense | LOW_ENERGY | KRIL
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someone post the webm with Danielle doing mocap. has Becca ever done mocap?
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>>169197263
I've watched runescape weddings videos, wow, swg, and now this one. They never get easier to watch.
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>>169197549
>galatine prime

im as much for making up stuff to make the thread go faster but for a person who hasn't touched the game in years sure does have the latest shit.
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>>169198201
he's back
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>>169195794

>All the sweaty, chubbyfat permavirgins throwing down money to go to bumblefuck canukistan, hoping to catch a whiff of their devfu's hair as they hoverhand for a photo
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>>169194587
>tennocon relay

What the fuck is this?
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>>169198343
sure hope baro doesn't go to that relay with something good
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>madurai lens
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>169197263
God damn, I got 5 seconds in and a chill went up my spine.
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Is it wrong that I prefer to make my chroma energy fire for convenient health so I don't have to use a life strike weapon to refill health if I get damaged and toxic if I'm using tigris or Zarr?
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>>169186034
Staticor is one of the best secondaries IMO
Synoid Gammacor is great too (if you bring Carrier with you for ammo case)
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Recommend me good dual swords/single swords please (besides dual ichor and broken war)
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>>169198419
>>169198343
Supra Vandal
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>>169199046
event weapon for the up coming event DE has been hinting at for the past month.
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>>169198942
Two handed or one handed?

I believe that nikana prime is a overall better one handed over broken war.
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>>169198942
dark split sword, dagger form.
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>>169197263
cool
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>>169199141
One handed sword class of weapons
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>pistol riven
>36 headshot without raising alarm

easy therefore im gonna get fodder riven
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>>169197549
How is any of that cancer?
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>>169200856
It's popular
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>>169200030
I dunno, I had a "Find 16 Syndicate medallions" one and it turned out to be a Tigris riven.
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>>169201097
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>>169201392
Better than a single Cestra at least?
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>>169201049
Popularity means cancer?
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>>169201392
Is Dual Cestra Crit Viable?

I got a Damage + Cold riven for it.
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>>169201601
Yes
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WELL WELL WELL
ISN'T THIS
JUST
FUCKING
GREAT
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>>169201834
just do it again dummy.
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>>169201601
popularity can also mean meme. meme can mean cancer.

It's all interchangeable for "I'm an autist faggot and this is a thing I don't like!"
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>>169201538
i mean could be worse yeah
it got interesting
might go places

>>169201693
noooooooooooooononononono...
dreadfull crit stats.. 5% base... x1.5 multi.. just no...

>>169201834
channel the sleek and use it to make your heart stronger
ul beat it next time by its own power
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Am I getting jewed, someone wants to buy two pistol rivens for 50p in total
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>>169201992
>>169201867
I just did, and got yet another pistol riven, but it was a waste of time overall
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>>169202508
depends on what pistols
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>>169202720
Veiled, I really don't care about rivens or secondaries
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>>169202842
>dont care about rivens
>or secondarys

well look at this homo
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>>169202842
then why you even expect a high price?

If you want more than 50p those rivens would need to have Faint disposition. Which means a popular gun with shit stats as opposed to Strong disposition which means a unpopular gun with good stats.
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>>169203651
From what I hear 50p is the normal asking price on PS4 so that's where I aim for, should unveil them and try to sell them again?
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>>169203936
I'm afraid that's the gambit here.

If unveiled you are dead sure to have a buyer then It could be better than unveil it and get a shit mod absolutely nobody wants.

up to you.
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>>169201916
>autists hate valk
Makes sense.
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mein warfrau ist starkenegger
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What starts with "S" and ends with "E"
That can be found within sorties

If you desire riven mods
You will get this, an act of god:

RNGesus has cast his wrath
While you still grind and lack a bath

So tenno, what will it be?
That begins with "S" and ends with "E"
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>>169177791
>minky left DE
Please don't joke about that, I don't want to get my hopes up
>based Geoff takes his place
Who?
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>>169205116
Salt-E
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>>169171456
Did the game just kek me out of the map? I'm on the underwater grineer tileset and there's an unbreakable glass that has no other way around
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>>169198942
Destreza
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>>169205432
nvm i had to jump into the water
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>>169205161
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/759624-farewell-to-mynki/

>who
the first 5-6 ish vannila warframes

wait for DE to shit out the rest of mynki's works before we see what geoff can do.
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>>169205514
I'm building this shit, it better be T4 endless viable
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>>169205116
S-ENDO WAVE
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>>169205663
Could someone do a picture composite/shop of the things mynki vs glen did, with inspiration all around just to show how divisive the art direction is and how meme-y it is?
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>>169205663
Back to well muscled technocyte and cyberarmor compared to some of the shit we got recently.

I understand the appeal but I've recently been de-accessorizing and making my frames and energy more calm and the game is much more satisfying to look at without bright colors everywhere.

Color me nostalgic for solo noob times in dark Corpus tilesets playing a cover based shooter.
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>>169205873
Guaranteed slash procs are pretty viable, in tandem with relentless combination and blood rush/BC

Doesn't have much reach though.
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>>169205985
I think most of us want that. All that glowy 'look at me' shit is unbecoming for a "ninja".
Nothing like gears of war, but a return to its inherently simpler roots.
The Ingush skins do a great job achieving this via a consistent aesthetic.
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>>169205663
So the guy who did good warframes is coming back, and mynki who created horrors like limbo got the boot. Is warframe going to be great again?
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>>169206649
I hope that when we finally infiltrate Lotus' homebase that one of the tiles is just a big room filled with hundreds of shitty dogs in suspended animation.
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>>169205959
mynki- inside "jokes" that go against the actual game and just turn out to be "creative flare/signature, shit ton of spikes, overdesigned things that look like complete garbage

ALL of the alt helmets after mirage and limbos

ALL of the primes after Nyx prime

Ember deluxe RETOUCHED and Nova Deluxe

At this point I can only point out what mynki has done right/pulled it off to be decent. wihch is like 5% of the alt helmets that was probably influenced by other staff and the lastest 3 warframes including bard.
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Anybody here want an unrolled Spectra riven? I have 0 use for it.
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>>169206970
anyone that takes that from you will just turn it into endo
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>>169207369
I dont care what they do with it
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>>169207486
just turn it into endo yourself and save the trade
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Frost Summit or Zastruga helmet please help they both look great.
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>>169207606
Arcane Squall
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I had some weird ass dream today about warframe.
There was some kind of event going on where we were trying to collect some kind of new matetial, which had a Kuva symbol as placeholder because DE was too lazy to make a new one.
But in order to get it we had to sacrifice the life of some named operator, with health displayed kinda like the Acolytes.
Also there were Canada Day pallets along with the star chart looking a bit weird.
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>>169206668
nah just better looking

>>169206901
Did Mynki design Mirage? I feel like the designs went downhill getting too literal....
"Durr I'm a techno-organic jester!"
"Durr I'm a techno-organic magician!"
"Durr I'm a techno-organic cowgirl!"
"Durr I'm a techno-organic archer!"
"Durr I'm a techno-organic monkey king!"
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>>169207805
>which had a Kuva symbol as placeholder because DE was too lazy to make a new one.

dunno why but that cracked me up
>>
>Kuva Fortress Sortie defense
>Operative keeps walking into the death zones where he gets killed by toxic gas
So is Limbo the only way to do these?
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>prime shotgun!
>it's a secondary

how to ruin hype: a guide by DE
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>>169208254
>switch teleport
>tectonics + tectonic fracture
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>>169207876
I could see it happening. Look at zombo dog.
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>>169208383
look at the stats, it comes with 3 Y polarities, only downside is the reload time
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>>169208383
>"hey guys you know whats better than 3-4 power creep shotguns and 3-4 powercreep heavy blade melee? Another powercreep shotgun."
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>>169208587
it could shoot a million tonkor grenades with each trigger pull and I would still hate it.

God fucking secondary shotguns are the lamest weapons in this game
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>>169208740
>Shotguns are the ultrameme in every weapon type now
This future was the best outcome
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>>169208815
>Doesn't want a Tigris Prime, Euphona Prime and Redeemer Prime (one day) all at once
You disgust me.
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>>169208815
>2 days without TQ
well, it was good while it lasted
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>>169208587
>Y
>not r
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>>169209273
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>>169197806
>LOW_ENERGY
Jeb frame when?
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New clan event coming soon(tm).
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>>169207848
>"Durr I'm a techno-organic jester!"
>"Durr I'm a techno-organic magician!"
>"Durr I'm a techno-organic cowgirl!"

I hate these frames because of this reason.

"Durr I'm a techno-organic archer!"

Ivara was designed by some nigger, I dont know how much input Mynki had there.
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>>169209273
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>>169207848
>>169210285
Yeah exactly. The older frames had their influences but were vague enough so that it wasn't gaudy. Mynky's excalibur would be in heavy samurai armor and have a sword strapped on his belt
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>>169209273
>tfw too intelligent to fall for the "redcrits are good" bait
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>>169210473
>I am exactly who he is pandering to with his designs
I feel kinda bad, preferring the newer frames over the old.
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>>169208815
god damn
back with an explosion of dumb things to say. expected nothing more, sadly
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>tq gets triggered by A SINGLE WORD written in comic sans
and all of discord laughed
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>>169211023
>tfw having too much fun playing FE to fall for b8
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>>169211023
>discord
Discord is garbage, though.
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>>169209326
>>169210408
>>169210691
>>
>OH IVE BEEN BUSY HAVING FUN
>NOT HERE THOUGH, GOSH
then keep having fun and leave

>>169211223
where do you think you are now?
it is free of him so it is automatically better
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>>169211201
Going full galewings married to cuckdellia I assume.
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>>169211383
This is /wfg/. Discord is basically /wfg/ but everyone is a tripfag. Why would you want that?
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>>169211332
Bondburger?
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>>169211460
>everyone is a tripfag
well not really. Tripfagging isnt bad because of the identity, its bad because the person doing it is just in it for attention.

If everyone is an anon then the tripfag stands out.
If everyone has an identity then there is nothing special about it.
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>>169210285
I kinda dig Ivara's design but the Locksley helmet is awful and "Durr I'm literally techno-organic Robin Hood lol!"
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>>169211510
007 hamburger sister?
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>>169211332
I would pp7 your hamburger's sister
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>>169211650
Then they're just fags. Regardless it still serves the same function as /wfg/ but with the benefit of anonymity. I'm not sure why people are shilling discord everywhere but it's more irksome than anything when there's no real benefit to it.
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>>169211510
>>169211728
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>>169211826
*But without
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>>169211826
>Then they're just fags
agreed, but arent we all?

But in any case, its just a fact that discord non-anons do sometimes intentionally trigger tq. Remember that shitty copypasta that some anon wrote about the playground? its basically that, throwing rocks just to get a reaction
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>>169211650
Every general i have ever been a part of that manages to get a large discord turns into a cirlejerk brojob cesspool that leaks into the thread with faggot inside jokes and praising le one funny dude
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>>169212071
well fingers crossed that that doesnt happen.
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>>169209273
>>169209326
>>169210408
>>169210691
>>169211023
>>169211201
>>169211332
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>>169212480
I don't get it.
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>>169212635
Cr ITS that are red
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>>169212480
you need to put it above one of TQ's avatar's head
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Legitimately have no idea what this redcrits meme is all about. I leave for a few days and suddenly people are memeing it like newfags on reddit.
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>>169213337
Do you have his Habaneros of the Spicy Fortress Loli named "I've_made_a_terrible_mistake" or whatever it is?
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>>169213615
It triggers TQ.
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>>169211223
>join a discord
>get bullied
>never go back

doesnt matter what discord this always happen
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>>169213615
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>>169213719
you're so new it hurts

oh my god

are all discord redcritfags this fucking new

shouldn't you still be in the hospital how the fuck did a premature fetus turn on a computer
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>>169213784
fag
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>>169213850
>discord
nice strawman
legitimately 100%(-you) of this general resents you
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>>169213830
Multiple people have done the math, you are objectively wrong. But man, fuck believe whatever you want, I've got better things to do than try and teach middle-school level math to retards.

All I wanted to do was gripe about how shitty the new """""shotgun""""" was and incompetent retards start posting about redcrits like babies trying to understand quantum physics
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>>169213784
if this happens in every discord maybe the problem is you
>>
So, when compared to the first few frames, are there any newer ones that adhere to the same design ideas?
Like mesa is literally a ranch-hand gunslinger but in space, whereas ember is just an elemental frame with a slight fried chicken aesthetic
The only one I can think of is Atlas, he doesn't have giant boxing gloves on or a champ belt or some nonsense, plus he has an elemental focus. Bonus points for fairly distinct color regions and relative simplicity
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>>169214083
We just want you to go back away.
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>>169214083
Headshots typically do *2 damage, or a bonus of 100%, some enemies receive *3 damage or a 200% bonus to damage.
Critical Headshots occur when an attack crits during a headshot, this is an additional *2 or a 100% bonus to damage after all other bonuses.
If the critical chance is 100% or higher the Critical Headshot Bonus will always trigger on headshots, so just use "*2" instead of "(1+1*CritChance)"
These calculations do not take into account enemy elemental weaknesses/resistances, use elements that the opposing faction is weak against for best results in game.
These calculations do not take into account the additional damage from status affects that do additional damage over time.
CriticalDamageBonus is CriticalDamageMultiplier-1
BaseDPS=Damage*Firerate*AddedMultishot
BaseDPS*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance)=CritHeadshotAdjustedDPS
BaseDPS*Accuracy*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*(HeadshotPercentage*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance))=RealDPS
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>>169213784
>bullied
Nope. Just really redundant. Joined one and thought "why aren't I talking about this in the general?" so I went back to the general and talked about the game.
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>>169214180
Mynki kinda destroyed that
Limbo was close, if it wasnt for the tophat
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>>169214083
>>169214330
Example Weapon 1:
20% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*(1+3.4*0.5)*2*(1+1*0.5)=24088.428 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*(1+5.8*0.5)*2*(1+1*0.5)=23610.483 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*(1+3.4*0.77)*2*(1+1*0.77)=25845.8508828 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1552.3*(1+5.8*0.77)*2*(1+1*0.77)=30036.446172 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds

Example Weapon 2:
25% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*(1+3.4*0.625)*2*(1+1*0.625)=30203.46875 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*(1+5.8*0.625)*2*(1+1*0.625)=30332.9121875 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*(1+3.4*0.9625)*2*(1+1*0.9625)=33840.809429375 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1552.3*(1+5.8*0.9625)*2*(1+1*0.9625)=40105.70789375 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
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Oberon is my favorite frame.
Im only good for giveaways and i haven't done one in over a year.
I got accepted into medschool. I will definitely drop out then overdose on stolen pharmacy bottles while shitposting my last dying breathes on /wfg/
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>>169214475
THEn why didnt you update your list?
fucking sperg, fix your mess
>>
>>169214083
>>169214330
>>169214461
character limits
Example Weapon 3:
30% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*(1+3.4*0.75)*2*(1+1*0.75)=36950.459 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*(1+5.8*0.75)*2*(1+1*0.75)=37786.86275 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*(1+3.4*1.155)*2*2=39770.54692 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1552.3*(1+5.8*1.155)*2*2=47804.6308 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
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>Select a normal kuva mission
>It turns into a kuva flood
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>>169214330
>>169214461
>>169214585
>not just using the calculator in the OP
Fuck off.
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>>169214330
First of all, this is an Argon Scope argument, not a redcrit argument. Because headcrits do significantly more damage than regular headshots/regular crits, if you can land headshots consistently then you can use Argon Scope, because the bonus damage from a headcrit surpasses the relative loss in DPS compared to a non-headcrit.

This has nothing to do with redcrits.

Second of all, the entire set of equations relies on you hitting headshots 100% of the time, which is silly. It's talking about an entirely theoretical ceiling that will never even even come close to being reached in an actual game. For example, the sample builds use both Heavy Caliber and Argon Scope, which is fucking stupi (good luck landing headshots with HC's accuracy loss).

tl;dr - fuck off with your theoretical calculations, 100% headshot accuracy is a silly thing to assume, especially with Heavy Caliber, and it's not even a fucking redcrit argument
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>>169214461
>>169214585
I think I can speak for the rest of the general when I say, we are going to require further Clarification and real world test cases. We eagerly await your future contributions.
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>>169214808
He is showing his work. This is how to has to be btfo. He has to be shown exactly how the numbers fall together "like a retarded middle schooler"
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>>169214852
>Argon Scope argument, not a redcrit argument
they are the same, because one leads to the other and the 2nd does not exist without the 1st

nice try

>fuck off with your theoretical calculations
counter his arguements actual math or get the fuck out
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>>169214604
>not solely stealthing kuva floods
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>>169214852
>Second of all, the entire set of equations relies on you hitting headshots 100% of the time, which is silly. It's talking about an entirely theoretical ceiling that will never even even come close to being reached in an actual game. For example, the sample builds use both Heavy Caliber and Argon Scope, which is fucking stupi (good luck landing headshots with HC's accuracy loss).
he literally put an equation called "RealDPS" for that
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>>169214083
Allow me.
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>tq deflects wtih vague arguements about redcrits
>has 3 posts worth of math, DPS, and builds dumpted on his head
>"nuh uhh, thats theoretical math"
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>>169214969
It's perfectly possible to redcrit without argon scope. It's clear you're just copy+pasting someone else's math without a single clue how it works. The argument is in favor of Argon Scope, because the damage bonus from headcrits is significant enough that you potentially lose damage with non-headcrits. It's not a redcrit argument. Basically, his equations argue that hitting 100% crit is strong enough to use Argon Scope. Going over that 100% crit rate is meaningless.

>counter his arguments
I already pointed out the theoretical flaws in his arguments, are you fucking blind?

This is why you don't copy+paste another anon's math without understanding how it works.

>>169215067
An equation he never used, and which he immediately proceeded to fuck over by using both Heavy Caliber and Argon Scope on the same build
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>>169215281
Fuck you! You are going to take EHPM and you are going to like it!
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>>169215281
>make glaring theoretical errors
>you just dont get it xD
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>>169215324
you did not counter HIS arguements, you called them "theoretical" and then moved on

you have not countered HIS math with YOUR math. at this point he is smarter than you.

also
>its possible to redcrit
only with bows and lanka, so the point is moot


TQ, we are waiting for more than dodges and deflects. Until you man up and start putting your money where your mouth is you are no better than Trump. I move to call TQ TrumpQueer until he stops
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Are you ready for that Ignis Wraith?
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>>169215624
I am not and would like if it was real.
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>coming back to WF because I need to offload 20+ Rhino/Boltor sets before they get unvaulted

I don't even need the plat and barely play anymore but the thought of losing money is driving me to do it.
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>>169215481
>make glaring theoretical errors
Except he didn't, you don't even have to have degree in math to understand that. It's high school level.
Only problem is the spacing in the paragraph but that's because it's posted in massage board.
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>>169215624
How much, 400,000 with 600 ducats?
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>>169215591
His equations only work assuming you headshot 100% of the time. You don't see anything wrong with that? Especially with a build that uses fucking Heavy Caliber?
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>>169215838
so do yours
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>>169215768
yo nigga toss some plat my way
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>>169215794
see>>169215838

how fucking retarded are you all to think 100% headshot accuracy, especially with Heavy Caliber, is a good judge of DPS?

>>169215878
My builds use HC, but the difference is I don't fucking assume every single one of my bullets headshot
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Does no one run Corrosive Projection anymore?
Is it now just a meme mod for memers in a meme game?
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>>169215953
post ign
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>>169215962
Just like you ask us to use equations to disprove you, use equations to disprove the viability of redcrits.
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>>169214083
If you wanted people to take your argument seriously, make a serious argument.
Saying "red crits are a meme" means nothing. What does it mean for a game mechanic to be a meme? You're trying to prove something subjective with objective math.
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>>169216001
no it is still useful, but the lack of grineer endgame makes it uncommon

tfw i heard that JV golem is now immune to it.. true
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>>169216137
Kuva floods are pretty much the only consistent deac endgame and they have grineer
plus LoR but
>LoR
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>>169216085
>>169216103
search for "redcrit meme" on fuuka, I made a post complete with the math. I don't want to repost it because I don't have the time or energy to be at the center of another shitstorm.
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>>169216239
>>LoR
exactly
boring game
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>>169216254
>I'm loosing the argument so here come the squid tactic.
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>>169216254
>deflecting
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>>169216254
You are TQ, you are always the center of a shit storm. At least until you leave forever.
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>>169216001
Aren't aura's still broke?
I don't think they stack right now unless that hotfix fixing that came out.
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>>169216505
>>169216513
>im too retarded and/or new to search archives
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>>169215953
>>169216081
I was actually going to gift you a random bundle but you're taking too long to reply
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>>169216081
>>169216585
Maverick124 since youre serious
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>>169216572
>im not going to link to it so that they never find it
burden of proof is on you buddy
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>>169216648
prove that you're >>169215953
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>>169215838
>>169215962
>>169215481
>>169215067
>>169214852
30% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*0.85*(1+3.4*0.75)*(0.45*2*(1+1*0.75))=14133.5505675 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*0.85*(1+5.8*0.75)*(0.45*2*(1+1*0.75))=11751.8908889375 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*0.85*(1+3.4*1.155)*(0.45*2*2)=15212.2341969 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1243.645*0.925*(1+5.8*1.155)*(0.667*2*2)=23629.7053238545 Serration, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
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>>169216747
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>>169216776
Our hero....
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I hope TQ kills patients in med school.
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>>169186285
>Gammacor
>Simulor
Not Corpus weapons, anon. Those are Cephalon-made weaponry.
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>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
>Equinox Day Neuroptics
>Equinox Night Neuroptics
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>>169216776
you need some context in your fucking equations. What are you proving? WHat did you change? The only thing I can see is that you no longer use HC in the last build. Did you modify headshot accuracy at all? You can't just slap together a bunch of equations with no context and expect people to understand
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>>169216572
>My proof is somewhere out there but you have to search it yourself and I'm not going to explain it, there for I'm right
Wow professor you are of genius!
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>>169217229
see
>>169214330
BaseDPS=Damage*Firerate*AddedMultishot
BaseDPS*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance)=CritHeadshotAdjustedDPS
BaseDPS*Accuracy*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*(HeadshotPercentage*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance))=RealDPS

accuracy is how many shots hit, headshotpercentage is how many of those hits are headshots
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>>169216938
I was going to gift you a skin bundle but it seems you have most of them already

Sent you something else.
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>>169216254
>I made a post complete with the math
Yes, you proved that redcrits have the same marginal value as yellow crits.
You didn't prove "redcrits are a meme" because a game mechanic being a meme is subjective, you dip.
You argued X then used math to prove Y. Even if the math was flawless, you didn't prove your thesis.
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>>169217345
so what the fuck did you change in >>169216776? You can't expect people to go through numbers one by one to fucking match them
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>>169217449
fuck off
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>>169217449
Catslut.
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>gone for a few days
>dogposting is back

THE DAMAGE IS WORSE THAN I EXPECT

>>169217442
How autistic are you to take everything fucking literally? "redcrits are a meme" is a shorthand way to say what you said, "redcrits have the same margial value as yellow crits."
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>>169217449
Mee Mee
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Just a warning up ahead.
For the vet of /wfg/ you know what's going to happen in next few threads but the newbies just brace for impact.
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>>169217449
Kot
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>>169217458
used the real dps equation instead of crit headshot adjusted DPS equation
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>>169217372
thank you, anon
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>>169217449
Blini.
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>>169217592
>"redcrits are a meme" is a shorthand way to say what you said, "redcrits have the same margial value as yellow crits."
No
No, it's really not.
"Redcrits are a meme" could mean:
>Redcrits have the same MV
>Redcrits have less MV
>Redcrits have zero MV
>Redcrits have negative MV
>Redcrits have less MV than other mods

I don't get why you have an unhealthy obsession with making a perfectly valid mathematical proof of something then ruining it by attaching a completely non-sequitur thesis.
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>>169217449
Cyan
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>>169217592
>Using meme in explaining anything

Nurse: Doctor! there's something wrong with the patients and we don't know what it is.
Doctor: His condition is a meme
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>>169217449
Kotblini
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>>169217449
[DE] Steve
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>>169217449
Redcrits
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>>169217449
Becca
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>>169217629
what are you talking about?
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>>169217449
Ignis Wraith
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>>169210691
>>169213830
>>169213850
>>169214083
>>169214330
>>169214461
>>169214585
>>169214852
>>169214946
>>169214969
>>169215067
>>169215281
>>169215324
>>169215481
>>169215591
>>169215838
>>169216776
>>169217229
>>169217345
>>169217458
>>169217679
TL;DR
TQ tries to prove something using math but fails to take into account all the game's mechanics
TQ proven wrong with math that takes into account all of the game mechanics
TQ panics
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>>169218306
Welcome to TQ.
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>another day
>another dissapointment
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>>169218306
dont forget the deflecting and strawmans
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>>169217679
again, you still have not explained the context behind any of your equations. With a good amount of searching I see that you assume an accuracy of 85% for HC and a headshot accuracy of 45%, this is something you need to fucking explain. Have you never heard of a "Discussion" section?

Anyway, your set of equations are arguing in favor of Argon Scope, not redcrits. So if you can consistently land headshots than I guess Argon Scope can be good to reach those hadcrit multipliers. But this has no impact on redcrits. Redcrits are and forever will be a meme.
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>>169218386
>>169218306
>>169218375
The sad part is that none of you even understand the equations the other anon is using, all of you are just seeing that he's arguing against me (which he's not even doing) and so you blindly jump ship behind him. The ironic part is that the only one trying to understand his equations is me.
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>>169218462
see
>>169216776
the 3rd and 4th builds are both redcrit and have higher DPS than the non-redcrit builds
by using the realDPS equation you can factor in the loss of DPS from missing due to Heavy Caliber, this not only proves that building for redcrit is better, but also that using heavy caliber can decrease your DPS.
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Just started playing again.

What does cycling do to a riven mod?
For example I got one with
+10% Heat
+9% Cold
-2% Ammo Maximum

Will Cycling roll for other stats or other percentages?
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>>169218754

Stats.
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>>169218754
>Will Cycling roll for other stats or other percentages?
Both. You'll get random stats and random amounts of those stats.
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>>169218651
yeah, at least TQ is trying
stop bullying already
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TQ posts made it very hard to read and follow can someone point out where he post his equation and explanation that red crit is bad.
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>>169218735
They deal more damage because they score more headshot crits, not because of redcrits. The entire reason these equations exist is because although average DPS is less, scoring headshot crits consistently outweighs that DPS loss. There is no increase in marginal value for going over 100% crit.
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>>169218987
see
>>169213830
its because increasing your crit chance also increases your critical headshot chance
so building for more critchance is actually boosting 2 modifiers, critical damage and critical headshot
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>>169218381
>sculpture

why are sorties in the game if they don't offer you good rewards for the time you put in
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>>169218381
>Few months ago
>I posted sad Keanu in E7 style
>fags still posting shit from E7

I'm really happy about that.
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>>169219415

>So many sculptures the past two weeks I'm out of Orange ayatans.
>Get another today

Just endo my life senpai.
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>tfw you are the redcrit meme
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>>169219183
If you hit 100% crit chance, then boosting crit chance no longer boosts critical headshot. Once you crit with every hit, every single one of our headshots will deal headcrit bonus damage just as redcrits do. The marginal value from going over 100% crit (redcrit) is the same.

The entire reasons those headcrit equations exist is to mediate the difference between a regular headshot and a headcrit. But once you reach 100% crit chance, that difference no longer exists, because regular headshots no longer exist (every headshot will crit).

This is why those equations are arguing in favor of using Argon Scope to reach that 100% threshold, not arguing for redcrits.
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>>169218205
It ain't so bad
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>>169219541
>not realizing there have been e7 posters have been here for longer
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>>169219649
only weapons with 40% base crit chance or higher can get 100% crit chance with a single mod
almost everything than can redcrit does so using 2 mods
so that second mod does contribute to the critical headshot for a portion of its bonus
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>>169218651
>accused of strawmanning
>strawmans as retaliation
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>>169218651
Looks like he pulled them directly from the calc. Thus they're proven accurate. Just go through the source of you want to see how they work.
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>>169208815
Have you actually looked it up?

The primary fire is a pistol. A single target shot.

Secondary fire is the shitgun mode.
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>>169219639
its a good feeling, isnt it? watching tq BTFO daily and then logging on to use your gunfu
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>color energy dark red on Sobek
>enemies now bloodsplode
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>>169220038
again I'm saying that redcrits in of themselves are not special. Reaching that 100% threshold can be important, but past that the marginal value does not change. Most of the time, in practice, yes, you do need 2 mods to reach that, but one of them can be, say, a Riven instead of Argon Scope. Again, redcrits are a meme, although reaching 100% crit (or as close as you can) may actually be useful.

Those headshot accuracy multipliers also need work. 45%/67% headshot accuracy is a rough estimate at best, and I actually doubt you can go that high in a typical mission, especially with full-autos like Soma.

Also worth pointing out that those sample builds are not optimal for elements. Yeah, using Argon Scope + BR assuming high headshot accuracy will give you the most on-paper DPS, but against a faction like Grineer it's far more important to mod for corrosive/rad due to armor double-dipping.
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>>169219891
Why I never meet you beautiful faggots before that. T.T
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>>169220721
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>>169221102
please don't jump into an argument you know nothing about
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>>169221242
ive been in this arguement since it started
nice try
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>>169220721
About 52% of my kills with Soma Prime are headshots, and I have 44% accuracy with it probably because I just sweep back and forth head high and don't stop shooting between gaps, I switched Heavy Caliber for Bladed Rounds after reading his equations and did Sortie 3.
81% of my kills were headshot kills and I got 46% accuracy, I'm not gonna go through that whole equation myself, but I did have faster TTK compared to when I ran through Sortie 3 previously.
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>>169221293
> since it started
And still didn't learn anything? Lol.
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>>169178638
hours late but no, it takes too long and the enemies ramp up. You're making 150k~ with booster at 25, it's a lot faster than 100.
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>>169221401
nope, its the same old shit. nothing new
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should I get rid of Blind Rage in place of streamline in case I feel like using hysteria a bit on tougher enemies that will hurt? Right now the drain is pretty bad
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Is the Sybaris good or just mastery fodder?
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Saryn spores.
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>>169221496
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>>169221632
dex syb is good, regular is meh
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Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not med students. /wfg/ use the (you)s, but they are mere tresspassers. Only I, TierQueer, know the true power of the Maths. My Arguments were cut in half, destroyed, but through my Rosa Parks impression, the Maths called to me. It brought me here and here I was ''''''''objectively'''''''' reborn. We cannot blame these creatures, they are being led by a false sense of security, an impression they are not pure shitters. Behold the /wfg/, come to literally scavenge and ''''''''''''''desecrate'''''''''''''' my sacred pastebins. My brothers, did I not tell of this day? Did I not prophesize ''''this'''' moment? Now, I will stop them with my smug anime pictures. Now I am changed, reborn through the power of the Pastebin. Forever bound to the Maths. Let it be known, if the /wfg/ want true salvation, they will lay down their puny arguments, their (You)s and wait for the Baptism of my Pastebins. It is time. I will teach these tresspassers the redemptive power of my smug_animu.png. They will learn its simple truth. The /wfg/ are lost, and will resist. But I, TierQueer, will cleanse this place of their impurity.
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>>169221836
The best part is that his "math" is objectively wrong.
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What's a better meme? "Redcrits are a meme" or "EHPM"?
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>>169222073
EHPMR
Effective Health Points average over a Minute Regenerated
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>>169222073
EHPM isn't a meme, TQ.
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banshee's prime shotgun have the marelok animations and it's ugly as fuck
i can't believe how DE is lazy on this one, it's not even minimum effort, they could have at least changed the reloading animation
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>>169222232
EHPM is literally a TQ meme.
That, or we have a second TQ on our hands.
>Someone points out that "EHP per minute" makes no sense outside of a healing context
>OH MY GOD IT MEANS AVERAGE EHP OVER THE COURSE OF A MINUTE EVEN THOUGH I NEVER SAID THAT ANYWHERE AND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ADD A DEFINITE TIME PERIOD TO AN AVERAGE IN THIS CASE WHY DOES NOBODY TAKE MY ARGUMENTS SERIOUSLY
It fits the TQ checklist:
>Sloppy use of terminology and/or garbage thesis
>Questionable math
>Questionable assumptions
>Tries to put fluid situations into raw math
>Completely spergs out when people call him out it
>Passes off huge mistakes as "nitpicking on technicalities"
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>>169222509
Regardless of bad terminology and thread trolling:
>the math actually worked
>the logic was sound
>the vocabulary used was above 5th grade level
There's no way that was TQ.
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>>169222785
>the math actually worked
>the logic was sound
I'm pretty sure none of that is true.
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>>169222945
Did you read it? I did. I'm pretty sure that was gottfaust. It looks like his wording style.
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>>169205116
Somthing else
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>onw warframe has to be built as 2 separate frames and the 8 parts drop from the same nigga so you have to play it 40 times

fuck you too DE
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>>169222073
what the fuck is EHPM? Another new meme that popped up when I was gone?

>>169221958
my "math" is objectively correct
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>>169223128
if you're not at 7/8 after 15 runs just farm primes for fissures then sell that shit for plat and buy Equinox from the market.
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>>169223128
at least when her prime comes out all her 9 parts will be on common relics, right?


RIGHT?!
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>>169222073
none
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Were survivals and excavations removed from sorties?

I missed the memo.
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>>169223501
no
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>>169223365
>blueprint is in meso relics
>chasiss, systems and neuros are in seperate neo relics
>each aspect is in its own seperate axi relic and all of the parts are rares

id rather die
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>>169223548
okay
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>>169223501
they "nerfed" endless sorties showing up, they have a much rarer chance to show up now
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>perfect sortie
>grineer
>rescue any modifier that doesn't slow or cause the "beam me to get past orbs"
>capture same as above
>spy eximus stronghold
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>>169222785
>the math actually worked
>the logic was sound
No and so much no

>the vocabulary used was above 5th grade level
Then it is TQ
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can we stop with the math, I prefer to pray to RNGesus.
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Is Sobek good?
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>>169223939
nope
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>>169223939
Very good
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>>169223808
Hello TQ.
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what are some good nidus builds
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>>169223735
>spy eximus stronghold as third mission
god no, why would that be "perfect"? that's just how to get raped while hacking and fail the mission all in one shot.
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>>169224053
equip covert lethality and kill everything before hacking stuff
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>>169223939
Synd proc and acid shells
you'll need a riven to push up to and past lvl 100 comfortably
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>>169224050
range, strength, ignore duration
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>>169224226
>ignore duration

but i want my infested garden to last forever
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>>169224307
it already lasts forever you fuck
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>>169222073
the best meme is when I kat red crit with my hemema that recovers 20k EHPS
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>>169224357
okay thanks.

is quick thinking + rage a good combo for nidus?
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>>169224053
>max out daily syndicate rep
>max out daily sanctuary rep
>max out daily focus
>get your daily lens/sculpture
>you were going to do it anyway
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>>169224050
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

>>169224226
don't listen to this guy, he is objectively wrong
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>>169224226
>range
>ignore durations
stretch and maybe cunning drift are enough range, if you put too much in it affects your ability to spam 1 since it isn't recastable until it ends.
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>>169224483
>pastebin
fuck off TQ
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>>169222254
marelok firing animation is awesome. You have shit taste.
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>>169224483
>Trusting someone who fail at math.
No thanks.
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guys hwat if EHP/M isn't ehp per minute but ehp per mision

and if u fail the mission your ehp goes down
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>>169224442
it's a pretty unnecessary combo. QT doesn't give more survivability than stacks do, you'd rather have the energy to hit 1 and 2 to save yourself than feed it straight into HP. I've found rage less useful than just primed flow, but that's a bit of a personal preference issue.
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>>169224639
>entirely correct about redcrits
>only subjectively wrong about argon scope, depending on how many headshots you aim for per mission
>there are people who jump into arguments with no idea of what is being talked about
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>>169223232
>what the fuck is EHPM? Another new meme that popped up when I was gone?
Some guy (might be TQ) decided to do some math on Chroma vs Valk EHP.
He wrote EHP/minute, which implies some kind of rate of EHP per minute which makes no sense in the context.
So then rather than admit that what he actually meant was "Average EHP over the course of a minute" (which is stupid in its own right because you could just say "average EHP" and it would be equivalent) he proceeded to sperg and claim everyone else was retarded for not getting it.
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>link
>lasts a minute by base
>highest EHP/mission
>even higher than Trump's wall

>advocating duration for link

TQ you're fucking retarded kys asap famiglia
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>>169224802
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>>169224454
I'd still rather the capture or rescue be an eximus stronghold and the spy not have lv 100 terminal guards
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>>169223939
yeah

really shines with some sort of buff/debuff on enemies like nova or saryn or rhino roar. Clears crowds where other shotguns have to handle one enemy at a time. Tight spread too.

Would recommend a riven though. Syndicate mod is nice for the heal and bonus armor but ultimately not worth the slot.
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>>169224802
go back to med school tq and put your finger up an ass or something.
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>>169224802
You do know you still need math to in med school and in profession right?
You can't just write "math is a meme" in test and expecting A+ from it.
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>>169224518
Wrong. Cast "cooldown" of Nidus 1 is almost entirely independent of range. Go test it yourself. Max range Virulence and min range Virulence has almost the same cooldown.

Anyway, check the guide for best Nidus build. Dumping duration on him is fucking retarded, because Link gives a massive boost to his damage. Not only do you get more power strength (or tons of EHP depending on what you want), you also get double Virulence casts. Not building for Link is the sign of a true Nidusshitter.
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>>169210691
is there porn of this smug alien girl someqhere?
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>>169225045
shut the fuck up
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>>169224918
level 100 eximus will max out your daily focus in less than 50 kills (2 greater lenses, affinity booster, full stealth multiplier)
spy means they're not grouped closely together possibly stacking together shitty auras
also they don't spawn instantly alert like all endless missions, so you can get 3x sanctuary rep for each scan, which at level 100 is 280-340
by the time you hit your sanctuary cap you've hit both your focus cap and your syndicate cap
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>>169225030
>implying my math was wrong
My math was 100% correct regarding redcrits. They still are even with the headcrit equations. Redcrits provide the same marginal value as regular crits, and going over 100% crit does not magically give you massive damage.

The only mistake I made was in regards to Argon Scope. If you consistently score headshots, then then headcrit multiplier can make up for the loss of DPS. But this is entirely dependent on whether you actually aim for headshots or not.
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>>169224821
I'm pretty sure the math post was gottfaust.
I'm also pretty sure he vanished after. All of the trolling that followed didn't match his posting style.
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>>169224821
>So then rather than admit that what he actually meant was "Average EHP over the course of a minute" (which is stupid in its own right because you could just say "average EHP" and it would be equivalent) he proceeded to sperg and claim everyone else was retarded for not getting it.

How can that be anyone else other than TQ? Are you saying we might be having a second TQ?!
TFW live long enough for /wfg/ to turn to /x/-horror
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>>169224821
thats TQ for you though.

Literally shit to the point even DE makes fun of it.
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I'm not the one who wrote about EHPM, I haven't been here in days since I was playing FE. I still don't even know what the fuck EHPM is. Fuck off with your samefag accusations, you guys are dumber than Trump's healthcare reforms
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>>169225298
>My math was 100% correct regarding redcrits. They still are even with the headcrit equations. Redcrits provide the same marginal value as regular crits, and going over 100% crit does not magically give you massive damage.
>>169220038
>only weapons with 40% base crit chance or >higher can get 100% crit chance with a single mod
>almost everything than can redcrit does so using 2 mods
>so that second mod does contribute to the critical headshot for a portion of its bonus
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>Banshee P. and Helios will be MR8 locked
>Euphona P. is MR14 locked
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>>169225298
Nurse: doctor the patient is in immense pain after the operation, his weight is about 75 kg. how much morphine should we use?
Doc TQ: fucking nurse shitter doesn't know, did you read the pastbin or should I throw you a med book?
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>>169226194
>MR14
What the actual fuck
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>>169226194
whew what?

not like it matters anway, since I'm MR 19
>someday there will be MR20 items
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>>169225392
I'm GottFaust. That wasn't me yesterday. I only have a bachelors in CompSci, and I'm not back into the swing of things yet enough to mathpost. I also focus on weapons. Oh, and I'm no longer with the DoD. I got out when the Hillary Leak scandal shit blew up. I'm private sector now.

On a side note: what do you guys think of me reworking my old calc into a web app built on Angular/Spring once I get up to date on the weapon mechanics?
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>>169225105
>midori_(uchuu_patrol_luluco)
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>>169225045
How does it feel than after hundreds of threads nobody takes you or your guides seriously? You will never leave an impression on /wfg/ other than being an annoying autist.
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>>169205116
simulor mirage
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>>169226534
welcome back
id be great. it will shut HIM up at the very least.
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>>169226678
great, I hope she has big tits on those pornos.
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>>169226678
someone needs to make a database of smug animu faces
with names, franchise/series, production studio, and whatever its an adaptation if applicable
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>>169226534
I feel like making it a webapp would make it much more accessible to the people who didn't use the old calc because it was too complicated, but I'm mostly concerned about the calculating. If it's done serverside, depending on how popular it might be it'll probably be very taxing on the server, and if it's clientside it might be even slower than it already is.
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>>169226194
But the Euphona P. isn't even that good
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>>169226941
she's twelve, anon
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>>169227053
>he doesn't know
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>>169227090
You're right, too old.
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>>169226534
do it, people need to be educated that redcrits are a meme
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>>169227090
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>>169226867
From what I understand and have seen so far, most of the algorithms still hold up. Couldn't he just look at my old source?

>>169226987
Honestly I could do a LOT of optimization on it. I think it could be run in a jboss war without much strain so long as the userbase isn't massive. Given how DE loved(s?) to nerf shit my calc finds as strong: I'm thinking I might set up a token based auth solution and only hand them out here.
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>>169227162
>Muh 30 crit

Its a shotgun secondary, doesn't matter if it comes with 3 V polarities
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>>169227450
>Couldn't he just look at my old source?
I guarantee you that he will not, but he will claim that he did and make vague criticisms. Eventually once he realizes that people trust your calculator then he will try to make his own. its a pattern
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red crits are cool
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>>169227652
Granted I'm only recently back, but isn't he a medschool student? Can he code well enough to do that?
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Should I use Reach with Jat Kittag or does Vulcan Blitz take care of the aoe situation well enough
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>>169227563
>he
>doesnt
>know
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>>169227823
Not that anon but what the gibbering fuck are you on about
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>>169227668
SHUT THE FUCK UP OKAY

SHUT UP

IVE ALREADY TOLD YOU IDIOTS THAT RED CRITS DONT MATTER WHY CANT YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS

NO WONDER YOU IDIOTS CANT GO TO MED SCHOOL, YOURE TOO DUMB
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>>169227563
its sorta like the Zarr of secondaries
its a vaykor marelok upgrade
and a lex prime upgrade
with bronco prime's reload to balance it
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>>169225298
>>implying my math was wrong
Correct, your math was right.
The manner in which you presented it was wrong.
Why is this so hard to understand?
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>Ignis wraith
why though
it's just the ignis but a little better, unless they turn it into a crit machine
where's the supra vandal from months ago, and I don't have 6 forma on one of those already
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>>169225479
>Literally shit to the point even DE makes fun of it.
When did DE make fun of it? I need a link.
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>>169228027
>ignis wraith

woah woah what the fuck

when did this get released?
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>>169227965
>NO WONDER YOU IDIOTS CANT GO TO MED SCHOOL, YOURE TOO DUMB
you're*
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>>169228135
rumored
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>>169227773
No I don't know shit about coding. And the ironic thing is, I guarantee that even the guy arguing to use the source has no idea how to code.

welcome to nu-/wfg/ where shitters bandwagon on whatever happens to be arguing against the only correct person on the general
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>Euphona Prime
>higher damage than lex prime
>higher critchance than lex prime
>higher critmultiplier than lex prime
>shotgun mode is literally a marelok
>pinpoint mode puts all the multishot (even added multishot) into a perfectly accurate line unless you use magnum force
>absolute shit status chance
>2 second reload on top of 5 magazine
its pretty good
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>>169228135
Tin foil hat theory on forum post from Space Mom
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Is the Hek good? I just finished making it
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>>169228510
>the only correct person on the general

Well that's definitely not you, TQ.
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>>169228546
it also has no damage falloff from range, the shotgun mode only sucks at range because you miss
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>>169227773
I cant remember, and honestly dont care about what he is. The pattern is just that he sees something being useful and copies it.
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>>169228678
Lol
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>>169225045
yeah, cooldown is the same no matter your range. the thing actually travels faster with more range too.
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>>169228678
Hek's great, anon.

I use the Hek regularly. Need any build advice?
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I just realized, if the calculator is updated that utterly GARBAGE weapons """""""""""""chart"""""""""""" will finally be completely invalidated
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>>169228975
Yeah actually I could use some advice if you don't mind
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>>169229092
Here's your (you), now fuck off.
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>>169227563
Look up the previews from the prize winners. All the tubers got some footage.

Primary fire is a single shot with no falloff. Secondary fire has falloff.
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>>169229226
t. topgun shitter
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>>169228546
>>169228764
surprise, TQ is wrong yet again
>>169208383
>>169208815
>>169214083
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>>169228027
Fucking Sobek Wraith when
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>>169229323
RIGHT INTO THE DANGER ZONE
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>>169229092
>i cant read
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>>169229194
Alright, so here's the basics.

Hek is a 'huge damage' shotgun. Ignore crits and status, you want to click one and delete enemies. Mandatory mods for me are Point Blank, Hell's Chamber and Scattered Justice.

Absolutely get Scattered Justice ASAP. It turns the weapon from good to being a beast.

After that you're a bit flexible. Two 90% damage mods for damage against what you're going up again, but I tend to pack Corrosive. Seeking Fury is really solid for both the punch through and the reload, which isn't great on the Hek.

After that, it depends on forma. On mine I have a Toxic Barrage for extra corrosive damage and Blaze. But generally speaking, you want Point Blank, Hell's Chamber and Scattered Justice at a minimum. The Hek is nothing without them.
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>>169229397
at least that would erase any illusion of coloring the gun nicely compared to now
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who wants it?
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>>169229652
me
IGN Higgus
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>finally burned out from playing the game
>only do daily sorties then i go sit in relays
>alt tab the game and watch random videos occasionally discussing fashion or gameplay with reddit incarnate players
I've finally reached the endgame.
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>>169229486
But the Hek doesnt have punch through
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>>169229703
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>>169229348
it can redcrit, that's why TQ doesn't like it
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>>169229652
>Glaxion Riven
>Lanka Riven
>TWO Twin Gremlins Rivens
Are you a wizard?
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>>169229092
tierfag is legit mad about top gun?

L M A O
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0P1Bk8Cx4
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>>169186490
>>169186285
How do I into staticor?
I got the bp as a daily login thing, built it, and sure it was fun ragdolling people but the damage and reloadan felt underwhelming.
Teach me senpai (plural).
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>>169229741
>Seeking Fury is really solid for both the punch through and the reload

It does when you mod it to have punch through, breh.
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>>169229937
I wonder why someone would dislike a shitty weapons """""guide""""" that spreads misinformation
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>>169229865
the glaxion was from when magnetize+beam weapons were a thing
lanka is my 2nd favorite
two twin gremlins are from RNG doing dumb things

>>169229937
TQ fails to realize that tom isnt making a DPS based "tierlist"
it triggers him very mucho
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>>169230058
could somebody post the latest top gun edition? I need get with the times after my break.
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>>169229937
tq hates opposing opinions
tq hates topgun
tq hates that the reason he hates topgun is irrelevant
tq tries anyway
same shit, different day
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>>169230251
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>>169230054
>I wonder why someone would dislike a shitty weapons """""guide""""" that spreads misinformation

holy fucking shit the irony
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>>169230251
its in the OP, i have no idea who keeps it uploaded

this >>169230340 is what >>169228852 was talking about. TQ is profoundly triggered that topgun doesnt have DPS calculations and rankings, yet he doesnt do it with his own. He actually tried to use the calculator as a cruch, telling people to do the DPS calculations for themselves.
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>tfw i can't use melee with any frame besides Valkyr because she doesn't need to use berserker

i like having an extra slot to play around with..
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>>169230340
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>>169230492
i usually update the one in the op when you post a new one
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>>169230029
gunslinger and lethal torrent for fire rate

all other damage/multishot mods

enough dual stat 60/60 to get near 100% status chance. it's great.

spam uncharged shots, charged shots for killing crowds and through walls.
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>>169230742
sweet
thank
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>>169230492
It's BASED on damage numbers and performance, even if the numbers aren't directly shown. The primaries are explicitly stated to have 20k DPS, and the secondaries explicitly stated to outperform them; exact numbers aren't shown because builds can vary, e.g. punchthrough.

The fact it's BASED on damage makes it miles better than your garbage weapons chart. Who ever heard of a fucking weapons chart not based on damage?

>>169230742
delete frames FAQ, link the guide, remove weapons """""""chart"""""""
the way you slobber over his dick is disgusting. You're directly responsible for the OP being regarded as the joke it is
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>>169230895
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>>169230895
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if anything a weapon list would need to be a spreadsheet with what niche the weapon fits in.
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>>169230895
>OP being regarded as the joke it is
It's not the OP that's regarded as a joke.
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>>169230895
>p-please take out topgun
>P-P-PLEAASE puT MY FRAME GUIDE IN

>>169231093
honestly i dont think that weapons have niches. they arent as intricate as frames
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>>169230895
You have it wrong.
TQ is the direct responsible for himself being regarded as a /wfg/ joke.

>>169231052
Goddamit I'm laughing so hard from your posts, every time.
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>join axi survival
>5 minutes
>someone runs to extraction
>me and the other 3 cuck him out of 20 minutes worth of time before we extract
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>>169228625
>Tin foil hat theory
She literally
LITERALLY
FUCKING
LITERALLY
spelled out Ignis Wraith. How is it a tin foil hat theory?
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why doesn't DE just make it so you can have both a sentinel and a kubrow/kavat but halve both of their mod capacities if you take both
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Remember the frames FAQ in the OP before the OPfag literally copy-pasted the frame guide into it?
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>>169228546
>>169228764
testing it a bit more, it has innate multishot of 12 so that 2% status chance is actually 24% chance per shot (its a secondary not a shotgun) so if you go full retard you get 2-3 procs per shot which is still shitty
the pinpoint is not perfectly accurate, but its accurate enough you can't notice unless you fire at wall from 60m+ away and look at the bullet holes
there's no innate punchthrough
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>>169231206
>mastery fodder
>utility via healing or CC
>"pocket sniper" i.e. something that has more active range than your primary, like a lex prime to a synoid simulor
>"""status build""" for armor stripping
>additional tags for rapidfire, inaccurate, high DPS

that about covers it but it's more than nothing.
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>>169231621
so no falloff on primary fire? excellent.

Innate multishot in a tight spread is great for ensuring consistency with the crit and multishot variations.
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>>169231447
When you spend whole week on /x/ everything is tin foil hat theory.
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>>169231562
>opfag
>as if there is less than 10 different people who make them

>>169231667
like little colored tags? Id hate to stoop as low as tq, but it might be like a good idea
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So primed regen I believe is hitting tomorrow for console baro. Is that a mod even worth investing ducats and time into.

Did it sell in any capacity in trade chat on pc?
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>>169231562
I don't remember that but I sure remember how TQ copy his guide from reddit posts can call it his own.
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>>169231638
shit-tier tier lists plz go
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>>169223939
>>169224935
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>>169232229
lolno
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>>169231667
You're not describing niches for weapons to fit in you're just describing how a weapon might be useful.

A niche is when thing isn't useful except for in one very specific set of circumstances, like Limbo and Sortie Defense.

What you're describing isn't a niche, it's just a meta analysis of weaponry.

A sniper secondary isn't a Niche, because having a sniper secondary isn't completely useless in any given situation except for one.

Utility and pocket healing isn't a niche, because that stuff can be broadly useful.

"Status builds" can be broadly useful as well.

Mastery fodder especially isn't a niche. It's a copout.
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oh boi
>>
>leave three teammates with an extra large snow globe plus some slozone ice wave for good measure on their extraction drill
>expect that enemies will be too slow to be able to do shit
>horrified as, despite there being three of them and I go ahead to start the next one, being fully capable of taking it on solo, I watch an extractor go from 2500 health to 0 with 0.7 seconds to go
>they blame me for leaving them behind and starting a new one

???
??????????????
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>>169212071
>that manages to get a large discord turns into a circle jerk brojob cesspool that leaks into the thread with faggot inside jokes and praising le one funny dude

and how big are those generals?

wfg discord is about 135 members
60-80 online
and about 20-30 people chat talk
10-20 people use voice chat

Whatever circle jerk you are talking about is probably some underage reddit shit. if that ever were to happen on the wfg discord it would just be shutdown before it even becomes a thing.

Special color rank? roll trips or higher with sasha bot

Bully role? you sperg ez/cringe out you get the role and are marked until you understand have to communicate

Got kicked? probably being a retard purposely causing shit.

for example: people using the music bot and you spam 40hr long oceanman flooding the queue. The bot has no extra perms so theres no way to clean it. This causes a problem for everyone including the 100+ servers the bot is connected to.

The discord has been up for almost a full year and there is only a total of 3 bans.
One dude spammed emotes and lagged out the server. probably not a thing anymore but wouldn't dare test it
One dude literally couldn't stop being retarded and some how made the fucking 8Ball cmd bot come off being more conversational.
And last dude did the exact same thing.

both of those last dudes individually pm'd everyone EVERYONE one the server to be let back in.

You get kicked? just cool down for a few hours/days then come back when you're ready

>>169211460
The only difference between discord wfg and the general is everyone has a name. nothing else. saying "everyone is just a tripfag" is a very poor excuse for not using another platform where what you say is connected to a name.
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>>169232162
small tags with a key seem like a good idea. It does organize the list a bit. Eventually you get into such minutia in categorization that it's not even worth it, compared to "here's a list of youtube links and a small paragraph about what a weapon does and how it handles compared to certain top tier baselines."

Don't want that for a quick guide.
>>
How do I farm Kela

I use Ash and run like a retard until I reach her and I finish her off with a dagger and Cover Lethality?
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>Doctor TQ: Well, looks like you have chroman ednomisthalikc fractures
>Patient: What? Am I going to die? My legs hurt.
>Doctor TQ: Read the diagnosis, idiot. I'm not going to explain jack shit.
>Patient: But that's fucking retarded, you can't just make shit up and not explain it.
>Doctor TQ: I'm glad I could remove the world of idiot patients like you, you're welcome.

The Savior of /WFG/, TQ
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>>169228027
>ignis wraith
>just dropped a 6th forma in my base ignis

FUCK
>>
Hek Wraith when
>>
>>169232354
I'm saving up Kuva so I can get the boosted 2 or boosted 3 with a negative.

It kills me that I've seen higher damage/multishot on sobek with the boosting modifiers.

I WANT MY BABY TO SHINE

Spazz vs Seeking Fury is a matter of taste me thinks. Both handle great.
>>
>>169232432
Hold on you already got a multishot one why do you need to roll it again?
>>
Aksomati Wraith when
>>
>>169232782
>status based hek
I never knew I wanted this so badly until now.
>>
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>>169232542
I remember this from a bit ago kek
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>>169232394
Sometimes a copout is necessary when a weapon isn't worth keeping and is trash.

But yeah, perhaps niche is too niche of a word.

Tags/Categories works.

Perhaps sort of percentage from top tier.

A ranking system if you will, based on categories.
>>
>>169232489
That cosmetic difference has functional consequences though. People will remember your retardation well into the future, and will treat you differently for aeons to come even if you've learned your lesson and changed for the better.

It's even worse with 4chan discords as people go in with the venomous asshole personality they usually restrict to 4chan, only now because they have names their autism is in full force and they will never forget ANYTHING.

There is no benefit to ever using a 4chan discord except in the short term. Worse yet a /vg/ discord.
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>Go to /dg/
>find something
>bring it back here
>>
>>169232507
I just go in with Limbo, Cataclysm during orbital strike then deactivate it and use a punchthrough ignis for the buttons because I can't trust teammates.
>>
>Sobek Wraith
>25% status base
>easily 100% status meme with the augment
>>
>rebecca invited me to play lunaro
>session full

;_;
>>
>>169232542
>actual professor: hey, where's your paper
>"the professor": read my pastebin, idiot
>>
>>169233137
Ivara deluxe?
>>
>>169233157
>inb4 Baro Ki'Teer comes in with Primed Acid Shells
>>
>keep getting 4k endo
4k statues when
>>
>>169232845
I ended up going with spazz over sfury because I'd rather have a shitload of upfront damage and then let acid shells clean up the rest - the DPS drops massively without some ROF on there

primary weapons need a lethal torrent mod

in particularly nasty sortie3s I might end up swapping it out, but it's working well so far

oneshots damn near everything

>>169233157
>tfw no sobek prime
>>
>>169233137
go to random general

bring back here

if it's lucy leave him there
>>
>>169232881
i want status chance
>>
will DE ever sell the old prime accessories seperate? I want that Targis Prime armor damn it
>>
>>169233791
no
>>
God, I love Saryn, but decorating her with bling is annoying as hell because everything looks so shitty and out of place on her.
>>
>>169233791
they come in unvaults, for the same price as prime accessories originally.

I'm honestly ready for Edo Prime.
>>
>>169234146
Graxx.
>>
>>169233385
Primed Hell's Chamber whennnnnnn
>>
>>169233002
nah. people are laxed as fuck. remember they all came from 4chan before coming to the discord. the only way to bring up something personal that happened to you is if you bring it up yourself. Other than jokes you can simply say you are offend by it. Not by being a sperg about it but actually telling people to genuinely stop. this is 1000 member /pol/ or /v/ discord its just us tenno.
>>
>>169234146
default Saryn Body best saryn
>>
>>169234372
this
as long as you dont say dumb shit its chill
>>
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>>169234447
>>169234146
>>
>faggot on prime time
>>
>>169234372
I left the discord because I'm too awkward to talk to anyone and it makes me depressed
>>
I feel Prisma Gorgon coming.
>>
>>169234663
I feel my dick coming in your ass
>>
>>169234180

Is that worth the money? It looks kinda ugly to me, senpai.
>>
>>169233545
/dsg/ did that to us.
>>
Drakgoon Wraith when

Only way to make this weapon relevant again
>>
>>169234663
Came 3 or 4 cycles ago.
>>
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>>169234746
>>
POX WORTH A TATER?
>>
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>whoframe prime
>secondary """""shotgun""""" prime
>literally useless sentinel prime for vets

Fact: nobody with 500+ hours is excited for this PA
>>
>>169234628
If you're talking about voice chat people hardly use it unless people try to get other people active. Other than that just mute their mics and listen
>>
>>169235092
Possibly not. I just like her cable dread ponytail.

But she does look considerably less shit when combined with some other things.
>>
>>169235750
Here's your (you) TQ, now fuck off.
>>
>>169235761
no I mean the text too
>>
>>169235750
>Whoframe fucked my bitch
>>
>>169235092
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840335854
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=778586481

They change her textures just enough for armours to look not shit on her.
>>
>Bazaar 1 is Busy
>There's only 3 guys selling anything
>>
>>169235750
Can I get the md5?
>>
>>169235421
It has ammo issues

but it's good damage/status

think mini torid except the status tics very often.
>>
>>169236075
Pretty busy for a dead game
>>
>50% off from daily reward
Time to buy Limbo
>>
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>>169237079
>buy limbo
>>
I want to stick my pinky in Nezha's boipucci as I suckle his slimy yellow chink penis.
>>
>>169237079
>not waiting for the inevitable 75% off that they increase the chance of whenever some sort of plat/quest/deluxe/prime access drops
>>
>>169237079
Buy Ivara/Mesa instead.
Limbo is retarded to get but not as difficult
>>
>>169237079
Limbo its from a quest you dumbass
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>>169236075
>Trade chat selling Paris Prime sets for 100p
>>
>Gums stopped bleeding when I brush my teeth
>Wake up with some puss-like substance coming from between two of my teeth
Hmmm
Also, best warframe for sortie 3?
>>
6 fucking sculptures in 8 days. Who's idea was this shit?
>>
>>169234628
>been active in other 4chan game 'communities'
>hours of fun in voice chat, make friends
>start playing warframe
>feel like a worthless idiot sperg, never talk, play solo 100%
At least we can be anon shitposters.
>>
>>169237467
I already own Mesa and I've almost gotten all the parts for Ivara.
>>169237510
Yeah, a quest I don't want to do
>>
>>169237663
everyone had a surplus of stars and was complaining about 2k endo
so they made a sculpture with a base value of 2k endo that can be increased with stars
its also a sculpture so you can decorate your liset with it or trade it
its actually an improvement
>>
>>169237772
>willing to spend plat instead of getting something easily obtainable for free

You fucking serious
>>
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>>169236075
Well where else can you publicly whore yourself out for erping?
>>
>>169237974
>implying plat isn't free
>>
>>169238025
street corners in the bad neighborhoods of any city or large town?
>>
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>>169237928
>lost interest in running sorties
>i've ran three since the update
>booster, booster, lens
i just want two of those statues for my goldboy
>>
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>pray to RNGesus in clan chat for Equinox Night Aspect BP
>record Regor run because i'm an idiot and like to do that sometimes
>clan chat is active, talking about drops
>get the night aspect bp
how do i pay tribute to RNGesus?
>>
>>169238692
You farm more
>>
I don't think I like the bigger and edgier Jesters.
>>
>>169238025
There are no vaginas in the source to this, right?
>>
>>169238692
BUY PLAT
>>
>>169237516
is this a 2hu reference?
>>
>>169239206
Yes
>>
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>>169238749
ok
>>169239037
i'm poor
>>
>Sortie 3 Sabotage Fire
>Overheat way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUbUWW-EOIM
>>
>>169231330
>you only did it because he doesn't know the force extract trick
I hate that it exists more than I like being able to forcibly end non-endless missions/end dealing with shitters in endless.
>>
70% off Obex sold out already
>>
>>169235750
>I deleted whoframe back before frost prime even existed
I'm mildly exited, gives a reason to buy syndicate relic packs again.
>>
Pherliac pods don't exist. They are a myth to me.

Also, I just increased my rank in Cephalon Suda to Intriguing. What should I get as my reward?
>>
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>>169197263

cringe so hard gag reflex kicks in
>>
>>169242431
I think the free sigils are always the best investment
>>
Does Warcry build Valkyr need life strike?
>>
>>169242431
Sigil always
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>>169197263
>their marriage when warframe leaves beta
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>>169235750
>Coming back just for the shotgun
>Hit over 700 hours recently
Also stop shitposting with the QT of Nohr.
>>
>>169242431
I didn't even want atlas. I just wanted to find out how the quest ended. Fuck that quest in particular. I was so mad I deleted my atlas. Dumbass looking useless peice of shit whoframe.
>>
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>>169243029
>>
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>>169242431
>>169243049
>pods were easy to obtain
>ran the boss battle four times and got all parts
>>
Got a credit booster, what spots are best for farming
Got secura lecta already
>>
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rate my trap
>>
>>169243491
Hieracon on Pluto
>>
>>169243524
>lipstick
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>>169243524
_5/7_
>>
>>169243707
>all those white spots
aaa
>>
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>>169243524
>lipstick
>female (male)
Is this a jojo reference?
>>
>>169235750

I am more excited about Helios & Deconstructor Prime than I am anything released in this game in at least a year.
>>
>>169243524
6/10 would regret my decision to get an assjob when his void-empowered buttocks squeeze my dick open like a tube of toothpaste
>>
Just maxed out steel meridian

Do I take Vaykor Hek or Sydon? Already have Marelok
>>
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>>169243524
Dr. Girlfriend's emo years/10
>>
What's a good build for the JAVlok?
>>
>Crit chance and crit damage furis riven roll
Should I just keep it and try to scam some retard?
>>
>>169243867
Dis a jojo maymay?
>>
>>169244375
yeah.

People see crit and go retarded. Even on rifles with 5% crit chance and 1.5% crit multiplier.

Be prepared to be ridiculed by -cm-liverslices in trade chat though.
>>
>>169243978
Vaykor Hek needs Primed Ravage and a hell of a lot more forma to compete with the Hek. I find the Vaykor Sydon takes too long to charge the blind. If you drop the guard early you lose all the blind stacks. In a group you're never going to get this thing fully charged. If you want to whip it out to rez a teammate chances are they'll probably be 2 seconds from death by the time you get the blind. The Sydon is STILL a polearm with good base damage reach and status. It's special ability is just the least reliable out of all the syndicate melees. Sorry kid but the Marelok's the only good thing about SM.
>>
>wanna trade one of the many hikou stars I have for a pouch so I can finally build the thing
>don't notice my capslock on even when I'm looking at the message because I'm a dumbass
>hit enter
>immediately banned from trade chat for the day
>too embarrassed to explain that it was an accident
Fuck this game
>>
>>169243978
one of the best shotties

decent melee with a useful blind that scales with reach mods.

Hek is better
>>
>>169243867
Oh shit son, is that a gachimuchi reference?
>>
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>>169244731
>Hek is better
>>
>Heat Sword
>Doesnt have Heat damage
wtf I hate DE now
>>
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I like this new pbr
>>
>>169245435
It does heat damage on the finisher attacks on Sword Stances and Slam attacks. I know, I know, DE is retarded.
>>
why does coolant leak alert enemies. Gross.
>>
>>169245326
>Being this illiterate
>>
I wanna flood the queen's pussy with my white kuva!
>>
>>169245595
>enabling TQ
>>
>>169245326
shame on me for not typing out the Vaykor portion of a decision between Vaykor hek and Sydon.
>>
>>169245587
They're just turning around to get a look at the thermostat.
>>
>>169245326
Hek IS better than Vaykor Hek
>>
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>Tenno will defend this
>>
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I should bring luci over here.

accelerate the death of this general
>>
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>>
Graxx Valkyr > Gersemi Valkyr
>>
>>169245805
I don't get it
>>
>>169245807
More like cancer, you don't die from it just yet but you go through all the suffering.
>>
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>>169245783
>>
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>>169245805
>He doesn't want to protect that bulge
>>
>>169245916
>Valkyr
Ew
>>
>>169245982
We get really emo whenever there's a content drought.
>>
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>>169245805
>>
>>169246030
*unzips secondary weapon*
>>
>>169246243
Twin Rogga
or
Stug
>>
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Baro will have Primed Streamline tomorrow
>>
>>169246349
brakk
>>
>>169244161
>>
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>>169245982
>you don't die from it just yet

last week this general ran through threads in 10 hours

now it takes almost 20

since there isn't anything big planned like waitwihtin the general will slowly dwindle away forcing a reaction of only whores will stay until they can't get anymore attention but in the mean time desperately bump the threads once it hits page 10 or make the threads themselves.

it has actually happened before and will happen again.
>>
>>169246556
last thread was almost 24 hours
>>
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>>169246629
kek
>>
>>169246556
>>169246629
/rwg/ has been going for 3 days 7 hours
>>
How do I build Chroma for best EHP without using Arcanes or Focus?
>>
>>169246891
wfg has each 1.5-1.8 days per thread.

probally will go even slower since there isn't alot of shitposters here.just a small minority of people that shitpost louder than others to make up for it

but then you are going to see alot more of >>169247098
knowing damn will people will reply.

this is a shitpost. remember that next time.
>>
>>169246556
giant katanas when

oh wait
>>
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>>169247271
>>
>>169247098
I don't even care im taking the bait.

>>169247098
You start by building a different frame.

Chroma is a Luxury frame. If you don't have the resources to dump into him you're better off with someone else.
>>
>>169247212
Clan chat tells me Vitality, Vigor, Steel Fiber, Rage, Primed Flow, Quick Thinking, Blind Rage, Primed Continuity
>>
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Ugly cat is a QT.
>>
>>169246107
Bondage Bob frame when?
>>
I dont understand whats so bad about the topgun list?

He listed all the top tier weapons and how to build them without assuming you are braindead retard. Literally all the highest damage guns are on there, and if some of them are questionable (like ignis) theres an explination as to why its there.

I get that gun lists that ARENT based off of dps dont make sense, but when you literally state that "these are the strongest in each category" do you really need DPS numbers?
>>
>>169247408
What frame should I build then, Rhino? I can't afford the Prime.
>>
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>>169247414
>>
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>>169247423
>>
So I come back to this general just in time for TQ shitposting to begin again.
Fffffffantastic.
>>
>>169246435
my warframe has girth
>>
>>169247486
It's a good chart it just needs more work. Like including a ton more weapons.
>>
Hows Growing Power on Saryn for solo play?
>>
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>the wait
>>
>>169247965
>coming to sell you another selfie from the void
>>
>>169239664
What was it?
>>
>Primed Rush
>>
>>169245539
>CMP
kek
>>
>>169247965
>Kronia, Saturn
11 hours before people start going crazy on the relics pieces
>>
It seem like it is pretty easy to hit 100% status on the zhuge, does this mean the gun is good? Thanks to high voltage, hammer shot, and thermite rounds I'm already at 91%
>>
>>169245916
No
Gersemi is nice and muscular without it looking ugly. Also ballgag best helmet.
>>
>>169248335
Zhuge is a good gun
>>
nitain alert
>>
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>>169227997
>reload speed as a balance
That the shittiest way to balance the gun. Fuck, I'd rather have damage stat cut before even fucking up reload speed. I would understand long reload for heavy machine gun or some gigarape death ray of death wave motion gun, but on the fucking low ammo secondary?

Goddamit DE.
>>
>banshee prime only comes from baro relics that can't be used until she's actually released
>>
>>169248335
>hammer shot
>>
The other stats don't matter so
>+160% multishot
Or
>+300% damage
Furis riven btw
>>
new ded
>>169248930
>>169248930
>>169248930
>>
>>169247486
>>169247914
which chart are you talking about
>>
>>169247952
fine since Corrosive Projection seems broken and doesn't stack right now
>>
>>169248335

>hamme...

Wait...

>>169248402

^

Also Zhuge is good and fun.
>>
>>169247668
Rhino is the Swiss army knife of frames. His kit is amazing, and super simple to build for too.

He's a great choice if you're looking for something simple and easy to minmax. Want some builds?
>>
>>169248775
>>169249104

Those are all of the rifle status mods I had
>>
>>169249053
Tom Cruise's list>>169230340
>>
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>>169249627
>tom cruise's list
>>
Best Vauban build?
>>
>>169250190
duration>range>efficiency + the bastille augment, i don't remember the name
>>
>Leveling the fag of Limbo on Kappa
>Have only a melee weapon to get the max affinity possible for him
>Fucking Grustrag 3
Those fuckers always appear when I have nothing equipped, same for the fucking Zanuka hunter
>>
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>>169249627
that piece of shit is not topgun
its even in the op
>>
>>169249070
Aight, thank you.
>>
>>169249975
>>169251471

Oh shit, ive been bamboozled. The TQ topgun makes more sense, the topgun list is a a clusterfuck. Explanations like the one found in the "superior" version are actually intuitive.

The topgunmk2 is a bit of a clusterfuck. To a player that understands the game, it makes perfect sense, but the other one is appealing more so to noobs it seems.
>>
Why can't I claim my sentinel if I have 2 wf and weapon slots? are sentinel slots separate now?
>>
>>169254509
they have been separate forever
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