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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, February 21th:
1613 – Mikhail I is unanimously elected Tsar by a national assembly, beginning the Romanov dynasty of Imperial Russia.
1797 – A force of 1,400 French soldiers invaded Britain at Fishguard in support of the Society of United Irishmen. They were defeated by 500 British reservists.
1848 – Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels publish The Communist Manifesto.
1916 – World War I: In France, the Battle of Verdun begins.
1937 – The League of Nations bans foreign national "volunteers" in the Spanish Civil War.


>News
CK2 DD41 - Secret Religious Cults
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-41-secret-religious-cults.999496/

EU4 - 14/02
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-14th-of-february-2017.999636/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>168904841
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>169032520
Based.
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>>169004708
>>169004457
>>169006694
How about this? Gonna change the localization to make it Manchukuo.

>>169005617
>>169005776
http://pastebin.com/YCQD90vn
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>>169032520
White.
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Is Burgundy's economy kill?
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>>169033295
Don't stop
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>>169032520
Let's have no racism either. The racialists need to head back to /pol/
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>>169033378
AI cheats like fuck
I don't ever feel like I am salting the earth for millenia to come in this game.
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>1797 – A force of 1,400 French soldiers invaded Britain at Fishguard in support of the Society of United Irishmen. They were defeated by 500 British reservists.
why are frogs so fucking incompetent? can they do anything right?
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Hunyadi just fucking raped the turks
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>>169033723
It doesn't cheat as much as some people seem to think. Tons of assumed AI-cheats have been confirmed false at paradox forums by the developers.

But they do have their perks, so that they can work properly. Would you rather have an AI that could not do anything of worth?
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>>169033816
Anglos are the strongest race on earth
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>>169033897
Because it's 1448. Ottomans don't really get their game on in EU4 until they have their cores.
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>>169033816
>1066 frogs invades and take the throne of England
Why are the English so fucking incompetent?
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>>169034343
>normans
>french
nice try jean-luc
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>>169034123
>>169033295
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>>169034343
>normans
>french
lmao.
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>>169034343
>Normans
>Frogs
They were viking transplants that had picked up French, not weak sissy Franks.

What's really funny about it is that just before the Normans invaded? The Anglo-Saxons had just managed to kick out the Danes. They traded one breed of viking for another after all that trouble.
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>>169034137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gazala
>Losing to Italy
>strong
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>>169034386
>1688 dutch invade and take the throne of England
Why are the English so fucking incompetent?
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>>169034386
>>169034429
>>169034463
Their rulers were norwegian assimilated into french culture, but the soldiers and the people living in normandy were french.
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>>169032935
>>169033107
>>169033295
What the fuck, I don't have a piss fetish, why am i getting a boner?
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>>169034548
>unironically supporting a catholic cuck over parliament
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La Plata
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>>169034951
>t. bobo
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>>169034913
Que?
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>>169034603
>Frog desperately pretending Normans were French just to get a leg up on England.
Just take pride in starting that whole USA thing instead. That really fucked the British in the ass.
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>>169035012
speak english paco I don't have time to decipher your monkey language
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>>169035003
Delete this immediately.
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>>169034951
t. shenryrr
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>>169034698
Thanks, mate
I'll give you some tomboy links when I get home after I work on lab reports
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Reminder
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Based Erdogan
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>>169035234
Why did he stop playing Paradox games? I enjoyed him and his smooth voice.
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>>169034913
English, as with the throne of England, it is a product of NORSE. Hahaha. Why didn't you keep old english, eh? Because it's not a master language. During the viking rule over England, old english quite simply died out while norse survived. The grammar, the syntax, the structure of english is all scandinavian. And even less of the real english language is there now due to the norman invasion enriching the norse language with new fancy words.

We aren't speaking the language of anglos, you dumbass.
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>>169035376
>t. Urk
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>>169035491
Anglo-Saxons came from the same place as the Danes did, they just did it centuries before and got Christianized.
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>>169035430
>>169035525
Turks are based
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Why has God forsaken us?
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>>169035491
>he said, in english
me 1 you 0
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are we being raided?
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>>169035786
hmmm
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>successful paulician crusade for jerusalem

jesus christ

In other news, the Cathar Pope Mathilda dies in our dungeons.
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Why is M&T2 for EU4 being made?

There's already M&T1 right? Did they want to adopt and mold features that only exist in updated versions of EU4?
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>/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General
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>>169035595
No, saxons came from northern germany, the danes didn't speak german, they spoke norse. Related perhaps, as all germanic languages. But very different too. The structure, grammar, and syntax of scandinavian languages are different than german and old english. Old english was more related to german, dutch, frisian. The old english language is almost completely lost. It was dominated by norse and became basically norse and then norse-french.
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I knew this general was shit but it's even shitter than I remember
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>there are only 4 (four) grand strategy related posts itt
Simply epic, laddies.
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>>169036594
>73 posts
>5 (five) posts about video-games
woah
so this is the power
of r&i's day offs
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>>169036790
what a white kid post
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Is grand strategy allowed here?
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>>169036757
With "this" I meant my post itself, actually.
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>>169036975
Pls keep posting
What are your plans?
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epic raid xD
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>>169035491
I'm guessing you're from one of the countries on the planet that the UK has fucked over. Doesn't help much considering that is every country except Portugal lad.
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>>169037620
>Doesn't help much considering that is every country except Portugal
learn some history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_British_Ultimatum
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>>169037817
Damn I thought Britbongs and Poortugal were bros. Every day's a schoolday, it seems.
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How do I deal with this disgusting holy roman blob?

I don't have anywhere near enough troops to fight them and I don't really want to blob into Scandinavia/Russia. Is there any way I could make them collapse or split up?
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Is there any space game where I can just be a comfy planet governor?
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>>169037953
I came
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>>169038013
Better than my HRE blobl, which is pretty much that except with Lothragia still existing in the middle.
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>>169037620
No. And I guess you just don't want to admit that your language is not first and foremost a product of your own people. I guess it's hard for a brit to admit it, because you have always taken pride in spreading the lingua franca. Good job btw, I would much rather speak English than French or Spanish.
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>>169038013
You are Prussia right? Consolidate the Baltics and just wait, saving up money and maybe trying to get some alliances with nearby powers. If the Kaiser is unpopular, you could try plotting to assassinate him. Either that, or his children. One or the other could lead to instability in the empire.
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>>169038270
>No.
Stopped reading. You ARE from a country the UK fucked over for a laff.
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>>169037116
That's an old pic, I tried to annex all of Africa and release it as Catholic German puppets, but Britain wouldn't give up anything except Heligoland and was allied to Russia and KuK, so I just have up on it.
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>>169038013
CK2 isn't that much older than EU4 right? So why is the map so freaking ugly? I mean, it's not even drawn correctly.
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>>169038375
If anything I'm from a country who fucked over England. England or later the UK never did anything bad to my country.
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>>169038571
sure thing lad
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>Leave LF as economic policy for over 50 years
>Economy is doing decent
>But it seems like capitalists were allergic to producing regular clothes/Furniture
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>>169038435
>My stomach feels so nice and warm
Dropped.
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>>169038571
Belgium? Canada?
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>>169038660
Is this the famous banter from the brits? All you're doing now is telling me "yes we did", when I already know you didn't. How is this supposed to trigger me? Kek. Brits can't even banter. Guess I'll rely on the Australians to keep the anglo banter alive.
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Anybody know if there will be a sale on soon?

I need to own a legit copy of CK2 to access the mod forums.
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>>169039192
There was a huge sale like a week or two ago for all Paradox games and DLC, with 50+% off on stuff. I don't imagine there will be another for a while.
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>>169039162
I'm not British and you're not saying your country because I'll humiliate you with 2 seconds of google.
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>>169038941
does this not happen?
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>>169039478
No, a woman's insides are the same temperature as your semen, so there'd be no extra warmth. At best they might feel you cumming if you do it hard.
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>>169039453
Belgium :^))))
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I westernized as Hyderabad, but what the fuck do I do now, there might as well be more brits than pooinloos in india
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Is HPM around (Or just a competent modder)? I need some help with a mod I'm working on
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What are some fun goals as Japan in EU4 that don't involve colonization or conquest of east asia?
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>>169040751
>goals
>in EU4
>that don't involve colonization or conquest
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>>169040751
>What are some fun goals in blobbing simulator that don't involve blobbing anywhere close from my blob nor anywhere far from my blob
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Classic /gsg/ thread
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>Somebody insults HPM.
>Immediately response.

>Somebody needs help from HPM.
>Doesn't show up.
hmmm
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>>169041762
t. rob
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is it worth annexing the arabian peninsula in Victoria 2? adn what are the best chinese empire states to conquer?
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why does map autism trigger so much /trash/?
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http://poal.me/4fpmv1
http://poal.me/4fpmv1

What should I do in my Pink map run?
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>>169042269
Arabian Peninsula? Just form satellite Arabia unless you want to pump pops into the Trucial States. Bahrain/Doha have reduced good demand for pops there and rgo efficiency so they can be pretty great if you need grains.

China needs depends on what you need. Theres some states with a mix of tea/silk, some cotton, some wood etc. You identify your need and expand.
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>>169042917

Leave Lindi to some other power. Dont take any of the Congo.
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>>169043141
Lindi has beautiful farmland, and helps with the borders. I'm only going to conquer the lands in red, the blue line was just a hypothetical for better borders.
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tfw I accidentally posted a few of those with the Wi-Fi on
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what do you guys think of Supreme Ruler Ultimate?
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>>169043306

What's its RGO's? If its wheat you dont need it. Pink map is a breadbasket. You can become Liquor king with it.
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>>169043532
3 x wheat, 1 x cattle.

I want it for borders.
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>>169043956

Your borders are shit since it belongs to the Tarraniggerscantnameshitzikgak colony.
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>>169044146
Thanks to dynamic colonial borders through events, I'll get absorbed into Portugese rhodesia or to Mozambique.
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Alright I'm bored of getting raped by the PLC trying to do the Baltic Crusader achievement

Which nation should I play lasd
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>>169044271

>Virginia before 1836 had a total militia population of 101,000 men for a total population of 1,2 million.
>33% soldier population

Someone report Virginia for hacking!
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>>169042979
I want to get the richer states of the chinese empire, and also, do you need to annex Nejd and then Hedjaz and you can form arabia?
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>>169043469
It's shit.

Honestly my first grand strategy game was Supreme Ruler 2020 and it was such trash it put me off the genre until I discovered EU3 in around 2011.
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>>169044998

You only need Hedjaz, Nejd, and Al-Rashid in your sphere to form Arabia as a puppet.
Like I said, richer states depends on your RGO needs anon.
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>>169044834
Pomerania, build a colonial empire
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Check out this weird game of DH I just had

>Soviets decide to invade Germany in the middle of them invading France in 1940, get their shit kicked in
>They lose, and invade Japan in Manchuria instead to have ready meat shields for the inevitable 2nd war, takes them over easily
>Germany uses their security to brute force a Dover landing in 1944, which proceeds to take over Britian before the Americans could nuke them
>USA decides to fuck up Italy instead, before a cold war peace is signed with free france still existing
>both sides use the opportunity to do a nuclear arms race, with the USA fucking up Kyushu with nukes, making Japan surrender
>Germany takes this opportunity to annex the soviet union in the 2nd war
>immediately afterward the capitulation of Japan, the USA decides to "avenge their fathers" and declare on war again, a few months after WW2 ended
>Germany takes over Africa, but not before the USA destroys Italy with nukes
>with nowhere to bomb west of India, Germany destroys Japan
>In retaliation the USA destroys Britian
>In retaliation Germany destroys cities in India
>meanwhile Baluchistan is a massive bottleneck with several german space programs getting nuked regularly by the USA
>after years of stalemate, JFK decides to nuke provinces next to the one he wants to take in Iran, which gives the indians an opportunity to take it after years, while also achieving absolutely nothing in the long run
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I'm playing as Carlist Spain in HPM, is there an event or decision to take Gibraltar from the UK or should I do it manually?
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>>169047046
just do it in a day one war, its so easy
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>>169047046
But Gibraltar isn't rightfully Spanish clay. They're as British as Hong Kong.
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>>169047246
t. Elizabeth
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>>169047556
t. Franco
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I'm going to play my first CK2 game.

What DLC should I disable for the easiest learning experience
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>>169047838
Franco was white and based
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>>169048127
Sunset invasion and conclave
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>>169045249
what's Al-Rashid? are you talking about the HPM mod? I dont have that one, sorry for not saying that, also, what's the best country you can release from Russia tofuck him over the best?
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When is the Liberation of Jerusalem?
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>>169048160
Literally Christian Shariah law.
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>>169048663
Just go download it, HPM improves the game significantly and it's not like you have to pay for it or anything.
Everyone here except rob uses it so any advice you get will assume you do to.
>what's the best country you can release from Russia tofuck him over the best?
Ukraine or Poland
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>>169049757
t. alex
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>>169048352
You should have sunset invasion disabled even sans learning experience
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>tfw mostly ethnically pure south africa
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>>169050378
EPIC my dude *tips* Truly white and based. Niggers BTFO
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>>169050712
>not roleplaying as whatever country you're playing as
do you even autism
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>>169050378
Are those different shades of orange supposed to proportionally differentiate the skin tones of the Boers from your timeline?
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>>169050791
Trust me good sir I always roleplay when playing EPIC BOER GROßSUDAFRIKANIUMS
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>>169051128
I roleplay as South African no matter whom I'm playing as.
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>>169051128
this is some next level autsim
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>when you've only got the RGOs to make one thing.jpg
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Really makes one ponder.
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>>169041107
>victoria 2 isnt a blobbing sim
the only reason you might think that is because victoria 2 game time is much shorter than eu4. you dont need to blob in eu4, development fixed that.
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>>169050378
post borders m8
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>>169051128
Imagine getting this angry over a internet meme.
Imagine being that person who got angry over a internet meme for the rest of your life.
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Post A E S T H E T I C runs and borders
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>>169052983
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>>169053092
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>>169053762
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>>169053985
The craftsmen aren't getting any luxury needs while the farmers and labourers are getting 100% of them because I was experimenting what 30% tariffs and no taxes at all would do to my pops.
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>>169035279
I see your posts have been banned, but I'm still here for you with tomboys
http://pastebin.com/5LgqXSvp
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>>169053762
>>169053985
Is it just me or is that population growth absolutely insane?
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>>169051128
pls someone post better version
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>>169054307
Based af, thanks my dude
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>>169054421
I felt like it too, I guess everyday pop needs is a major factor afterall. Player-guided Persia has a huge production potential and can get +85% of its population with their everyday needs easily, unless the AI is fucking with the market somehow. I also noticed that it's nearly impossible to get a decent percentage of the landowners with their everyday/luxurious needs, which is something HPM should fix imo.
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>>169054731
Why are you thanking him for shitposting in here? You can get any hentai shit you want on the correct boards.
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What are the proper borders of Germany?
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>>169055043
Fuck, you're making me want to do another Persia game
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>>169049757
Nice, thanks, I'll download it later, do you need to install it and move it to some files or its more complicated? I am not good at mods, and can you puppet Poland-Lithuania after you liberated them from the russians in HPM?
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>>169055160
Image uploads seem to be broken, so here. The Roosevelt plan: http://i.imgur.com/QdXHR3z.png
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>>169055584
Just extract the folder and .mod file and place them in the mod folder.
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>>169055584
>I am not good at mods
t.alex
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I just realized we can't even make new threads right now because of broken images
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>>169058534
rip
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>>169058534
Yeah I tried making a /qa/ thread but
>no file selected
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>>169058985
t. spinoff
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>>169059175
what
No I tried making a /qa/ thread so hiromoot would know what the fuck was going on
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Naval combat has to be the worst part of Victoria.
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Did that zombiemod guy ever release anything?

Would playing Peru or Chile be more fun in HPM?
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>>169060382

You can max out your RGO's countrywide as Peru easily since you get tons of rebels.
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>>169060597
How do rebels affect RGOs positively?
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>>169060696

High militancy -> Reform socially faster -> More immigrants
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>>169058534
>tfw /gsg/ will finally die and i'll finally be free
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>>169060786
Oh, that makes sense.

Can you form the Andine Federation as Peru?
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>>169060814
>die off page 10
>when nobody can make new threads
O my noggin is joggin
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>>>/a/153772210
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>>169060382
>did that zombiemod guy ever release anything?
Yeah, he put out a bunch of releases. Not in the past few days though
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>>169060870

I believe you start as the PBC and then breakup events happen. If you keep it all you can form the Andine federation. Check Peru's rgos. If they are shit for industrialization, you can also form Gran Colombia as Colombia.
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EU3 Mute in Missouri
0-4: Unite Ireland as Leinster, go Republic, make trade empire
5-9: Unite the Netherlands as Holland, make trade empire.
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Post yfw the current threads on each board are going to be the only threads forever
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Sunrise in Petersburg is at 10:00 AM and sunset is at 4:00 PM
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>>169061081
>some faggot's gay cartoon porn will be the last image ever posted on /gsg/
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>>169061081

>yfw you have no face
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is there any way to like, do a false flag in eu4?

I'm so sick of rebel uprisings climbing to 90% and then hovering there forever while my army is in the general area and could easily shut it down.
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When it says "Trade income at least 40%" that means 40% of my income comes from trade right?
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>>169062157
Yeah.
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>>169042917
Try to surpass this: https://a.pomfe.co/aqnqnbp.png
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>>169042917
>Pink map run
??
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>>169050378
>irish 8.1%

nigger what are you doing
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>>169062264
I can only imagine the infamy
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what is the reason blacks and spics rape and murder at a much higher rate than whites? in victoria 2
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>>169062663
https://a.pomfe.co/djlfvrc.jpg
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>>169062840
low literacy rates and a liquor shortages
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>>169062918
How do you get this? Did you time the "Boer Republic" decision to coincide with some mass exodus from Ireland or something? If so, how to you know when to enact it?
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>>169063021
I don't even know why. One game I got no Irish immigrants, the next game this happened
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>>169063158
I read somewhere that potato famine events in Ireland can lead this type of situation with Natalia if you time it correctly. I may totally wrong though.
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>>169062840
they are a shit tier sub species. that is why you trigger the final solution event and remove that garbage from your country.
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>>169062840
Do you have a mod installed?
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time to waggle your willy to your hearts content, lads
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Paging AARnon
Paging AARnon
Please post imgur album of your AAR to ease the drought
Thanks
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>>169062840
because you colonized too much of africa

try increasing taxes and the welfare and gibsmedat sliders to maximum
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Why is EU4's ai so terrible at colonising?
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Why is EU4's ai so terrible?
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Why have we been so slow lately
Not even a year ago /gsg/ was one of the fastest generals on /vg/
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>>169065016
images are kill right now laddo
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>>169065016
I bet the JEWS did this
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>>169065085
I know but /gsg/ has been kill for a couple of months now
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>>169065153
it died with rad yugo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQwh5HhmZ3k

>Hungary
>Mamluks

Lol'd
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>>169065279
Thats not true tho. when doxlad outed reed /gsg/ had some most ontopic posting we'd seen in a while
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>>169060963
Where do I download the latest release from?
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>>169065471
I found a link to .051
Is this the latest?
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>>169066272
I believe so, yes
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>>169064490
Unfortunately, as I warned was possible, I've gotten very busy again now. The AAR will probably be on hold for about a month before I can post any more; at least until somewhere in the ballpark of March 20th.
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>>169066407
It CTDs on startup.
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>>169066623
Are you using HPM?
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>no image uploads
>meaning no new threads
>meaning old threads don't get bumped off

It's a shame the thread isn't near bump limit, I'd bet R&I would pop a blood vessel for not being able to create a thread early.
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>>169066747
Nope, I assumed it worked standalone like the original.
I tried running it with HPM and it works now, thanks.

Here's the link for any lurkers: https://www.mediafire.com/?9rx79pblmh03l38
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GUYS

MAYAKA MADE ANOTHER VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQNRHlCsOw
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Play MYFAROG
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>>169068321
Is he a tranny?
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>>169070023
mayaka is mayaka
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>>169032520
W&B
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>>169070031
I need to know if he's a tranny because if he is I can't enjoy his videos.
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>>169070157
i think mayaka is intersex or something not a tranny
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>>169070298
so it has a dick AND a penis?
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>>169070506
yeah
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>>169069683
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>>169070716
w-what
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i just woke up what is happening itt
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cool, it works again
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>>169071550
Good morning anon!
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>>169071550
Nothing new
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>>169064974
New player here. I had claim on the Caribbean colonial region and Great Britain started planting colonies all over it. Is there anything I can do diplomatically to kick them out? I thought there would be repercussions for taking land that was already claimed.
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I-is the nightmare over?
Are we safe?
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>>169072032
dumb an*me poster
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>>169071887
The repercussions are that you now have a casus belli on them. Don't be a pussy and kick them out from your rightful clay.
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>>169071772
I've been tasting my loaded gun's barrel all morning :3c
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>>169072845
I am not allowed to post. The servers have said so. Allah be praised.
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>>169072901
awwww, dont be sad anon, I'll be there for You, we here at /gee es gee/ are really good people, make sure to talk to us if you ever feel sad !!
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>>169072901
Ill be your one and only <3
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Guys what do you do as a Catholic emperor? The protestant league will never declare war, so I can't force religion on them. It's year 1590 already and I can't get any IA with all those heretics running around. And now I can't pass Pragmatic Sanction with a female heir...

I've eradicated most of the scourge, except one center, but there's still too many heretics.
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just take constantinople lol
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>>169073553
Won't they eventually sign a treaty making Catholic the imperial religion if they never declare war?
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>first time playing hoi4
>babbys first time playing a hoi game ever
>have the historical setting turned on
>decide to play as communist sweden
>join the comintern
>declare war on Finland
>Stalin steamrolls Finland
>I accidentally let the soviet puppet Finland without me getting any clay in the peace conference.
>later declare war on Denmark
>Notice how Norway have a defensive pact with them
>both join the allies a week later
>the axis and comintern now work together against the allies
>Germany is stuck in the lowlands, Belgium, netherlands and france are slowly egaining German territory already by the 1940s
>I accidentally get most off my troops surounded and killed because i'm an idiot
>but it's not a disaster yet because i got Soviet troops all over scandinavia protecting me
>soviet troops suddenly disappear
>allies steamroll sweden
>i start to wonder why the soviets retreated and are now stuck lappland, there are no other fronts for them to fight on.
>later get the message that Siam has surended to the soviet
>see how most of south east asia is now either soviet or japanese
>the soviets has also invaded burma and are now slowly eating in on the bengal region
historical ai my ass
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>>169074192
dont play hoi4 its fucking garbage
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>>169074192
>plays goy4
>gets meme'd on
When will they ever learn?
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>>169032509
So, I started as the Chief of Latgale and here's where things stand now. I've reformed the Romuvan religion, Iberia and Aquitaine are getting culturally enriched by the Moors and the pagan Bohemians have formed the Carpathian Empire. The Swedish king also has control over enough of Scandinavia to form its Empire title; he just needs money and piety now. I'm plotting an assassination, but I don't have enough conspirators to do it.
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>>169071715
MemeSupremeism über alles ok?
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>>169073642
Was this meant to be in reply to anything?
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>>169075080
Religion wise, the Swedes also hold three holy sites, and the Moral Authority of Germanic paganism is getting dangerously close to 50%. The last thing I need to be dealing with is a reformed, unified Viking empire.

Also, one of the steppe hordes to my east is Muslim. It was Orthodox not too long ago.
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>>169075080
>>169075189
>memestart
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>>169071715
God bless MemeSupreme!
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>>169075256
>>169075189
Well, guess I have this to look forward to as well now.

>>169075256
Deal with it.
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>>169075415
They'll prbably go for Aquitaine and Spain first
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>>169075168
>>169075332
thanks i made that meme
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>>169075189
>>169075415
>Romuva
Kill yourself
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Feel like making use of the trait that lets you assimilate into a dynasty in HIP.

Where should I put my Karling character in 1066?

Christian world only
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r8
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>>169078507
talecks
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>>169078454
There are already landed Karlings in 1066 tho. Why do you want to make a new one?
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>>169078592
is that good or bad
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>>169078652
WHat if I want to rebuild the one true Rome as a Karling count?
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>>169078507
Needs more polish desu.
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>>169078725
I couldn't find a better font
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>>169078709
>roman karlings
baka.
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>Playing EU4
>AI delcares war on other AI
>All enemy AI go after me to rekt me and my land ignore war goal
>force me out of war but lose the war to my ally because war leader just sieged all their lands down because they didn't defend just targeted me
I'm new to eu4 but it seems like ai only targets player no matter what the war is about. Is this true? Like pretty much this game is turning into defend my land till ally gets war goal for me
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>>169079591
nah, they usually try to knock out a minor belligerent before moving to the main target in my experience. Are you a weak junior partner in that war, lad?
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>>169079591
>Is this true?
Not if you're playing normal or easy.

Hard AI does focus more on player. Normal doesn't.

You probably had weaknesses the AI would see as a window of opportunity, just like they do when they attack other AIs. In fact in my games I seldom get attacked at all, unless I play minors amid majors, like byzantine waiting to be crushed by ottomans as the best example.
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i'm thinking of making an ancap mod for ck2 replacing feudalism with anarcho-capitalism.
any ideas for what should be added?
i have been thinking that they for example should have "violated the NAP" as a casus belli etc
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>Have a heir with the purest woman of the royal bloodline
>He is a 0/2/1 retard
>Have an illegitimate heir with a maid
>He is 5/6/6
Why do maid always have the best gene?
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>>169081979
Could you please be a faggot elsewhere? We discuss important matter here.
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>>169082421
ok
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>>169076390
You were right, they did.

Meanwhile, for some reason, Christians crusading against Muslims made us Pagans feel threatened, so I guess we're taking over Poland now.

Time to be the Wendish Emperor, I suppose.
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What do I do now senpai?
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>>169083927
Build more liquor factories and encourage more bureaucrats.
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>>169083927
post your mobilization numbers
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>>169084586
>mobilizing
>as Germany
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Just have to reclaim my glorious Georgian territories, and then Antioch and Alexandria. Bloody Roach
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steamcordplaza is based
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>>169083927
Clean up the borders and dismantle your rivals.

Annex Krakow, liberate Galicia-Lodomeria from Austria on Poland's behalf or just release it separately. Have them release Hungary and Bohemia too, and annex Austria proper once you're done to make yourself gross.

Break the Ottomans' hold on Europe, liberate the tiny countries under their yoke, seize the Straits. Smash their hold on the Mideast too, if you want.

And break Russia up some more.
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>>169085326
>blobbing
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>>169085548
It doesn't count as blobbing if it has a real life historical precedent you fucking FAGGOT
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>>169085548
Annexing Austria as Germany after breaking it up isn't blobbing.
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hello how to do genocide on isl*m in victoria II game?
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>>169085289
You're going the wrong way, you should be expanding southwards.
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>>169085748
uninstall.exe
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>>169085978
fuck you achmed
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>>169085651
>>169085654
t. Prussia Pro
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>>169085835
I had to get strong alliances before I could take the heathen Mohameddans on directly. And now I can, with my Austro-Russian alliance.

Also, pic is the new world, and I converted to Coptic.
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>>169083045
we commonwealth now
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>>169086063
t. whatever retarded steam group is being used
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Countries that are allowed to blob in Paradox games:
>Roman Empire (not Byzantium)
>Mongol Empire
>Ottoman Empire
>British Empire
>Russian Empire (in Siberia only)
>Finnish Empire
>The Great and Powerful US of A
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>>169083045
Romuva crusades sometimes go for Germany. Be careful about that; the Catholics give Germany a 5000-weight for their crusades
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Hmmm, really makes you think.
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>>169088086
(((paradox)))
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>>169088086
I thought it could only appear in Europe?
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>>169088381
>being this eurocentric
How does it feel to be a bigot ?
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>>169088381
The last few can appear pretty much anywhere based on their individual requirements
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>>169087438
I try to keep my mongols in the steppes.
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>>169087438
>lmao BLOBS XDDDD

This is a shit meme and it needs to fuck off. If you want to annex land then fucking do it, it's a game.
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Aren't the safety regulations and workhours reforms actually beneficial if you're poor on homegrown resources and have difficulties catching up on techs, yet comfortably on the green?
>lowers factory throughput, which means you can employ more people before running off resources without actually going for the input techs
>lowers RGO output, which makes farmers and labourers quickly demote to craftsmen
>lowers artisans' throughput, which means you get to kill them off earlier
These are just the "bad" effects. You also get +0.01% extra pop growth and to automatically roleplay as a nation of savages living off as nobility when compared to the average British wageslave.
Am I missing anything here?
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Is there any way to not get cucked out of my Congo territories or get warred by Belgium and England in 1880 or do I just have to give up that area?
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>>169088570
sand lives matter
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>>169087438
It's not blobbing if it happened in real life, lad.
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>>169091881
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>>169074192

My war ended in 1943 and this is how Europe looks now.

I got no fucking land despite doing most of the fighting in Spain and Italy.

The Soviet Union got more land in Germany than I did despite not being in the same faction.

Everything is all kinds of fucked up in this game.
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>>169076493
God bless you for making this high octane meme
>>
cobrah online?
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>>169091881
>empire fallen right after the ruler died
Yeah you can blob if you also release all your conquered land after your king died
>>
Atatürk
>>
>less than 3 posts per poster
What's going on
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>>169087438
Where's Germany?

where's germany?

wheres germany?

whers germanium?

wher germaniums?

what where groBgermaniums??
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>>169093989
You mean the shitty nation that lost both World Wars? Even Italy managed to win one LMAO.
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>Even Italy managed to win one LMAO.
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>play CWE mod as Syria
>literally 0 bureaucrats
>one decade of encouraging bureaucrats (and only bureaucrats) later, the most populous state has 0.09% bureaucrats, all other states have 0% bureaucrats and overall admin efficiency is 1.7%
>go to my biggest farmer pop and check its likelyhood of promoting to a bureaucrat
>0%
>hover over it
>game crashes
hmm
should I drop this shit mod or am I missing something here
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>>169092705
>Britain ruining the aesthetic France blob by making pointless land grabs

Is this before or after the peace conference though
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What kind of flag would look good for a republican Polish-Lithuanian union (ie one that doesn't rely on coats of arms)? I had the idea of using the colours of the national flags together to create a 5-band flag like the early republican China but every combination I try looks bad
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>>169093835
all banned
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This one violates the rule of tincture but I guess it gets the point across
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>>169096034
>>169096345
How about removing the shitstain that is the polish flag all together?
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New EU4 player here. Is there any way to stop coastal raids? I set ships to protect trade nodes and hunt pirates and I still get raided all the time.
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>>169096524
Wow, rude
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>>169096034
>Austro-Ethiopian Union
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Just imagine if Tunis became a white western country in 1877. I bet all those Sicilians are hoping the ocean to get in
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>>169090408
Pls respond

Can I prevent this at all?
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>>169097634
Seriously? Is there not enough niggers and jungle in Brazil already?
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>>169097586
Yeah those poor Italians WOULD LITERALLY SWIM to a Tunisian secular welfare state, afterall it's SO CLOSE to Europe.
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>>169097586
>>169098425
Truly you should make a modifier giving Tunis 5490235% more immigrants. It only makes sense for a secular welfare state that's so close to Europe to get all the immigrants in the world.
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>>169098425
>>169098727
treed
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>>169097634
uninstall.exe
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Hey goys what's the best mod to create new zion and genocide goyim in vic2
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>>169095656

After. I didn't even get to have a say and ended up with those little pieces at the bottom of France and Spain.
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>>169100298
Darkest Hour
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What are my options to control colonial nation borders in EU4? I'm planning to run a game where my vassals and PUs colonize with me, so I can get more CNs, but I don't want border gore.
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>>169100298
If you kill goyim who are you going to enslave?
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>>169100717
just the ones cluttering up the promised land, everyone else is free to become a good shabbos goy
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>>169100536
I don't know what that is.
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>>169100958
Victorian era animu
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>>169101024
Does it have liquor factories and bureaucrats?
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>>169101024
>Victorian era
No it takes place in the 20s. You fucking retarded piece of shit.
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Denmark. 1937-1938. An AAR by A fucking nerd.

Song of the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L740ESYghT0

I would have done this earlier but that whole image kurfuffle
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>>169101397
A quiet year, Denmark continues her preparations. Moving from a volunteer system to a one year draft means in the event of war, more people will be prepared for the inevitable call to service...
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DH Light has some interesting scenarios I guess.
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>>169101615

Continuing on with the uncertainty and instability within the government. Our foreign minister proposed a series of radical changes that did not sit well with a lot of people... Time will tell the long reaching impacts of his decisions.
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>>169101832

An interesting development in Spain. Against all expectations General Franco's forces folded like a paper tiger, and the republicans emerge triumphant just over a year after the initiation of the conflict. What impact this will have on Europe? Only time will tell, but without Franco's fascist leanings in power, those opposed to the axis powers breath a small sigh, as the likelihood of Spain's involvement has drastically decreased
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>>169101615
The sad part about playing Denmark or Poland or any of the early German conquests is that human player can block the German advance pretty easily and that will almost always lead to either German AI going to tilt and just stopping or just getting steamrolled when most of their forces are just sitting at Danish border masturbating
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>>169102071

Denmark has chosen her side...
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God, CK2's host wars are just free money. 500 gold every time you win, and if you just keep banishing the claimants they just keep trying and giving you more free money.
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>>169102267

The state of the Fortress at Faaborg at the end of the year
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>>169101828
National Socialist India with Gandhi as Head of Government.
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>>169102168

I've played this run a few times, since it's easy, low stress and entertaining in a way. Iteresting things tend to happen and while I rarely see the AI go full retard, it remains pretty retarded. I like to think of it they're guarding against a potential allied invasion route. But the day Paradox manages to code a good AI is one of the signs of the impending apocalypse. Alongside a funny cloud and sunshine during a British Summer
>>
>>169102686

Clown* Shit. I ruined my own unfunny joke
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>>169102686
I have seen Germany stuck conquering Norway and Denmark for years while USSR rapes the entire front.

One time they had so many troops in Norway that they just consumed all the supply and hence couldn't advance and yet they kept on shipping more troops to Trondheim like it would fix the issue.

Like your defense there will probably last but if the AI was any smart they could paradrop behind your lines while coming in with massive air and naval forces and attack from all 3 directions
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>>169102882

I'm well aware of this, and fully exploiting the fact to get stupid casualty ratios. Why? Because I can.
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>>169103058
>exploiting the fact to get stupid casualty ratios.

Good lad
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I want to partition the ottoman lands in the balkans, need advice on what to do. Hungary and the commonwealth are in the war with me, I'm not taking any more provinces as I already have all that I need.
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>>169101828
>>169102445
Oh this looks pretty cool, I've never tried DH Light even after 2k hours played
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>>169104374
white & based
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>>169104374
Looks pretty interesting, good luck man!
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>>169104374
Turn down the game volume, it's way louder than your voice. Also, next time leave the timestamp out of the link. You linked to halfway through the video. Your mic seems fine, though.
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>>169104374
stop advertising here, ignore anyone who says to advertise or visit here

i want you, nothing personal, to fuck off
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>>169104374
I can't tell if this is a genuine post or not.
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>>169100692
Bump.

My main idea is something like
>start as Castile, release León as subject, hope they become a PU
>vassalize/PU Portugal after they get Expansion/Exploration
>enforce culture in both
>convert to Protestant ASAP to avoid Treaty of Tordesillas
>all three get their own CNs
>annex/integrate both
>get three CNs in a single colonial region

However as soon as I finish a colony, it gets assigned to a CN without asking me which one, so I'm kinda worried about border gore, and I'd rather not use the console to force provinces to the "correct" CN.
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Lads I forget is there a way to play pirated vicky 2 online
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>>169104691
On episode two I turn it way down, no music for copyright and I didn't turn the sound down properly for this episode sorry senpai
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Is there any way to max industrial score if you don't have massive pop? Sucks that all it takes into account is # of workers rather than profit
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>>169104710
is that /gsg/ for REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
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>>169100536
Is it good? I have had it in my backlog for a long time.
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>>169106189
Yeah it is pretty good. The ending is pretty shit but it is only one cour so it is worth the time.
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>>169105860
yes
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Ok, so what should I do from now? Should I properly become part of the empire and basically play like a Magyar Austria? That would derank me to duchy, but potentially decrease the malus to IA since I'm controlling Austria and I'm not part of it despite being the Holy Romam Emperor. Should I dismantle it somehow? Should I just buttfuck everyone I got this "liberate imperial land"? Hell, can I even inherit the Dutch lands myself if the Burgundian Inheritance kicks off?
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>>169104691
Thanks, I will change the file names before uploading them, you know how xsplit is
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>>169106182
no i just want you to leave
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>>169106736
How about you return to your steamcord?
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>>169107317
>muh steamcordplaza
Retard.
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r8 my colonies
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>>169107417
>steamcord isn't real
Just a few threads ago they got exposed for trying to cause dissent just like you're doing right now
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>>169107512
bad/10 tbqh
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>>169107519
You don't have proof for anything, gayboi.
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>aztecs invade europe
>they just chill in ireland and somehow lost 100k troops
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Is King Cotton based on anything historic?

Also why is it every time I want to play as the CSA it ends up that the Free States of America forms or we just get rebels out the ass? The real Civil War never happens unless I don't want to play as the CSA.
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>>169036170
>The old english language is almost completely lost. It was dominated by norse

This is complete bullshit, don't speak about Lingustics if you don't understand it.

There are several acceptable ways of grammar and syntax in English, from it being a mix of Germanic, Romance and Brythonic.

But Norse had literally no effect on the English language bar certain statements regrding the weather like Bleak and Sky, and most Norse vocab doesn't exist outside of Yorkshire and the Shetlands.

Old English didn't die out in any shape or form, it became Middle English and various dialects.
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>>169108841
im king cotton ama
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>>169035491
> he said
> in english
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>>169109982
But him saying it in English doesn't give the brits any credit when it's not really their language.
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>>169110292
> he said
> in english
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oh fuck yeah
time to SPQR now
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>>169111519
Does this force the HRE to rename into Germania?
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>>169111815
yes, but the HRE wasn't even around, i pounded those karlings too hard, i started in the viking age
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>>169109002
No it's not bullshit. It's actually well known among linguists. Old English changed its syntax and structure and grammar when the norse language dominated on the british isles. And that's pretty spectacular in its own right, because it's very unusual to borrow the syntax and structure from one language and use it in another language. You commonly see that words are borrowed from other languages, but old english took a lot more than just that, which tells linguists a lot about how dominating the norse language became. Not only did this happen, but a ton of basic words were replaced completely with norse equalent words. This is also unusual, because normally one will borrow words that one doesn't have a concept of. But words were actually replaced instead in this case. Again this tells linguists about how dominating the norse language was. The inhabitants on the british isles had to change their way of speaking and adapt in order to deal with life, they basically got a new language over a relatively short period of time.

Now, take a good guess why modern places the object after the verb. Old English didn't do this, german don't don't do this, frisian and dutch don't, French don't. Scandinavian do however. And ask yourself what about the split infinitive? This is seen in English and Scandinavian, but not in old english nor the german and french languages. Etc Etc Etc.
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=510964906

BEST mod.
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>>169103546
Create a few places like serbia/bosnia and vassalise them
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>>169107512

Genuine question, not related to gaming per se.

How the fuck did Africa let itself get colonised?

I can't get my head round it. Millions of people just let random people come in and take over their land?

No /pol/ tier answers please, I'm genuinely interested in how it happened.
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>>169112384
>CK2
>Modern Day

[vomits externally and with increasingly chunky bits]
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>>169112634
>Africa let itself get colonised
rifles against spears
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>>169112634
Europeans = Guns
Africa = Rocks
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>>169112634
Literally nothing resembling a modern state existed in Africa, beyond the boer settle states in the south that the anglo dealth with, it was 95% tribal societies with sticks against europeans with rifles. For most of the inhabitants in rural areas basically nothing changed anyway, they kept with their ooga booga tribal shit.
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>>169112634
Whatever happens, we have the Maxim gun, and they do not.
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Fact: South Slavs are the most powerful race in the world

tfw I have another general with 4 attack and no downsides
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>>169112634
> let
>>169112892
This
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>>169096345
>>169096034
What about something like KuK, but without the escutcheon? It technically breaks the rule of tincture all over the place, but it doesn't really count when you're just talking about a party per pale.
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>>169112725
>>169112815
>>169112861
>>169112892

I presumed it was a matter of technology.

But still, they must have outnumbered the original colonialists by a significant amount, perhaps enough to make the enemy having rifles not that big a deal.
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>>169109002
>most Norse vocab doesn't exist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Old_Norse_origin

Looks like you're dead wrong.
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>>169113267
Being functionally retarded in warfare probably helped Yurp
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>>169113267
Most Africans didn't really notice any change, I guess, instead of mongo the village chief being under some tribal leader, it was now mongo the village chief under a tribal leader under some governor. The rebellions that did happen just ended up with rorke's drift and similar battles, one sided.
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Also another question,

Were there any big names in Europe that were against colonialism? Like maybe MPs who thought it wasn't a nice thing to do.

Or was there a general consensus that it was all good sport.
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>>169113438
Ironically with leftists calling anyone who doesn't suck off refugees and the EU "little englanders", the people against colonialism in the 19th century were called the same.
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>>169112634
Certain tribes would make up the majority of colonial police and military. Say aliens invaded earth and gave americans the majority of military positions on the protectorate of earth
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>>169113264
Why was Hungary catholic when that is clearly an orthodox cross on their arms?
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>>169113438
They were enlightening the savages.

When they found out about the King of Belgium's incredibly harsh abuse of his colonies they just gave them to someone else (though it was given directly to the government of Belgium instead of staying under the kings sole control)
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>>169113215
Add Bulgarians as accepted. Not sure why they aren't when you have Macedonia as cores and I'm pretty sure Bulgaria can form Yugoslavia... which results in their primary culture switching to Serbian..?
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>>169113814
The double cross is in slovakia too
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>>169113438
Unironically read Heart of Darkness. It's written by a polish-british writer, he was a Sailor and wrote the book after sailing through the (Belgian) Congo River. I think he even got chronically sick after that voyage, too.

There were people against it, but not the ruling parties of the major European powers, who wanted to "civilize" Africa
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>>169113959
There's a decision to accept them anyway, this is a gross Catholic Yugoslavia though, so it might be weird
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Is it even possible to get colonialism as Ming? Everytime Castille gets it those motherfuckers
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>>169114010
Did anyone actually "civilize" them? I know Rhodesia tried for a long time to reach a peace between the natives and the whites, but then Mugabe and his terrorists took over in a zerg rush.
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>>169114173
Rhodesia didnt try to reach peace, Rhodesia tried to institute politically correct Apartheid.
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>>169114173
not for a lack of trying, when europeans left a lot of the infrastructure was still there, africans just left it to rot
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>>169114161
Haha get fugd Chinaman
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>>169114310
I wonder if anybody against Rhodesia living today are kicking themselves after seeing what Mugabe and his people did to the land
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>>169114319
How do you use them when all the engineers left? Dumbass.
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>>169114173
As a side effect, yeah. Africa had resources and loads of people, the Europeans wanted those. Turns out that in order to extract those resources, you need infrastructure, a functional governing system on those colonies and whatnot.
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>>169114336
We can reach peace together through the continents
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>>169114598
Give me some practical examples of Sino-Albanian achievements.
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>>169114489
great, so we can agree that niggers can't even learn basic civilization
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>>169114598
FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH RUSSIA, ALBANIA IS MY NEW FRIEND
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>>169114672
This picture. It's nice.
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>>169114731
How do you learn when you cant go to uni?
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>>169114598
Albanian, do you realize what the Chinese do to Muslims in their own lands? They are not your friends.
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>>169114878
Shut capitalist pig, im deaf to your propaganda
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>>169114838
foreign uni
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>>169114878
I thought the Uyghur-Chinese relations were ok? Besides, Albania, like most Balkan countries, is a religious mess.
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>>169115087
How do you do this when you have no money?
See dumb /pol/tard, there's a reason why Africa is shit and it's not race.
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>>169114878
>albania
>muslim
lol.
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>>169115214
how are they doing it now?
see dumb /just/tard, they come here, they study here, but god forbid if they want to go back and actually do something for their country
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>>169104112
>>169101828
>>169102445
Those scenarios were added in Hoi 2 DD/Armageddon. DH devs never bothered updating those scenarios to new map.
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>>169115214
>calls someone /pol/ while calling africa shit and dumb

Wow anon
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>>169115196
If you hate America, China basically ignores or says a nice thing about you occasionally and that's it, until you have something they want.

Muslims in their lands get shot and forced to sell or even eat pork if they try and cause problems. They don't fuck around.

Also, Albania, if you look at the actual population numbers, it's over 80% Muslim. They're bigger traitors to Europe than the Bosnians. True honorary Arabs desu.

>>169115275
>I don't know about Albania.
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>>169115367
Is this some kind of shitty attempt at falseflagging?

I'm a literal communist bleeding heart race-traitor gay liberal, I consider /pol/ and most of this thread to be my actual enemy, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with saying "there's a reason Africa is shit and it's not race."
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>>169112634
Read guns germs and steel.

It's a book that is far from perfect but it gives you a general idea of why certain continents where able to colonize others.
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>>169115460
>Also, Albania, if you look at the actual population numbers, it's over 80% Muslim.
?
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>>169115619
>considering a video game thread to be an enemy. That's sad anon. I'm done here
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Any /gsg/ discord group official or unofficial currently recruiting?
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>>169115619
>I'm a literal communist bleeding heart race-traitor gay liberal


not to mention that you can't be a commie and a liberal at the same time
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>>169115727
Meh, so 60% vs 16% Christian. Strong muslim majority.
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>>169114310
Wrong.
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>>169115743
The people posting in the thread, obviously. Many of the people who post here openly threaten people like me with death camps etc. You look like you're from reddit or some shit though so good riddance.
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>>169102437
Did you die? I was unironically enjoying this
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>>169115860
>what is liberal communism
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>They drove out of the town into the forest near Motovilikha. When Michael queried their destination, he was told they were going to a remote railway crossing to catch a train. By now it was the early hours of 13 June. They all alighted from the carriages in the middle of the wood, and both Michael and Johnson were fired upon, once each, but as the assassins were using home-made bullets, their guns jammed. Michael, whether wounded or not is unknown, moved towards the wounded Johnson with arms outstretched, when he was shot at point-blank range in the head. Both Zhuzhgov and Markov claimed to have fired the fatal shot. Johnson was shot dead by Ivanchenko. The bodies were stripped and buried. Anything of value was stolen and the clothes were taken back to Perm.
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>>169115946
i wouldn't put you in a death camp

i would just tie you up and ragdoll you off a helicopter
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>young intellectual prospect from [3rd world country] gets to study in [1st world country]
>picks [decent course] at uni
>finishes it with a well paying job in [1st world country] just waiting for him
>goes back to [3rd world country] instead
>tries to make his own country better somehow
>gets shot because [3rd world country] being shit is actually beneficial to those currently in power
Hmm I wonder why the brains don't go back
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>>169114310
t. Robert Mugabe
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>>169116072
Economically, gommies aren't liberal, which I guess what he was trying to say
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>>169116087
>Nicholas, facing his family, turned and said "What? What?" Yurovsky quickly repeated the order and the weapons were raised. The Empress and Grand Duchess Olga, according to a guard's reminiscence, had tried to cross themselves, but failed amid the shooting. Yurovsky reportedly raised his gun at Nicholas's torso and fired; Nicholas fell dead. Yurovsky then shot Alexei. The other executioners then began shooting chaotically until all the intended victims had fallen. Several more shots were fired and the doors opened to scatter the smoke. There were some survivors, so Peter Ermakov stabbed them with bayonets because the shots could be heard outside. The last to die were Tatiana, Anastasia, and Maria, who were carrying a few pounds (over 1.3 kilograms) of diamonds sewn into their clothing, which had given them a degree of protection from the firing. However, they were speared with bayonets as well. Olga sustained a gunshot wound to the head. Maria and Anastasia were said to have crouched up against a wall covering their heads in terror until they were shot down. Yurovsky himself killed Tatiana and Alexei. Tatiana died from a single bullet through the back of her head. Alexei received two bullets to the head, right behind the ear after the executioners realized he had not been killed by the first shot. Anna Demidova, Alexandra's maid, survived the initial onslaught but was quickly stabbed to death against the back wall while trying to defend herself with a small pillow which she had carried that was filled with precious gems and jewels.

>While the bodies were being placed on stretchers, one of the girls, possibly Anastasia, cried out and covered her face with her arm. Ermakov grabbed Alexander Strekotin's rifle and bayoneted her in the chest, but when it failed to penetrate he pulled out his revolver and shot her in the head.

Commies are the worst.
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>>169116123
Pretty much every African country that isn't an active warzone is ruled by a western-educated man or woman.

So you can get a couple "brains" to come back if you offer them the presidency, but that's not enough to build a functioning modern economy.

>>169116226
I know you are actually correct, I was just using a bit of hyperbole to make the point that I'm clearly not /pol/
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>>169116072
nothing, it's literally nothing
to make communism work AHAHAHAH *deep breath* AHAHAHAAHAH you must impose an authoritarian form of government that forces total economic equality, simply put, you can't be a liberal and a commie at the same time, not to mention forcing social equality, not to mention forcibly taking away people's private possessions.
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>>169116342
>communism is stalinism
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>>169116427
>it wasn't REAL communism
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>>169116321
Well yes, but it doesn't mean that all of those who do go back to Africa and become politically active are the ones trying to make their country better off.
Not an African example but Kim Jong-Un was educated in Switzerland IIRC.
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anyone here up to date with dh kaiserreich state? Does it have late game now?
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>>169115619
>I'm a literal communist bleeding heart race-traitor gay liberal

No friend I think this is a shitty attempt at bait. How the fuck can a gay person be race traitor.
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>>169116883
He lets niggers pound his ass.
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>>169116883
I reproduce asexually but genetically modify my offspring to be black and jewish
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>>169116883
Gay people don't reproduce, so they don't help their race survive.
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Can i call a Crusade in EU4?
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>>169117163
>>169117253

That's not betraying your race your not producing a baby of another race you're just being a genetic dead end. Albeit you're not helping, but you aren't actively working against your own people.

>>169117220
Well played.
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>>169117253
Strictly speaking not true. Gays probably have a significantly lower rate of producing biological children than say, married hetero couples, but lots of gays choose to have a biological child. Two lesbians can even produce a biological daughter without involving any male genetic donor.
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>>169117283
Yes, sort of.

If you are the curia then you can call a crusade, and anyone who wants to attack this country you have called a crusade upon will get bonuses like morale and such. But it's not like countries will just start attacking that country for no good reason.
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>>169117412
What if I let my black boyfriend be the biological father of our child with a white woman?
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Unironically the worst thread on /vg/
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>>169117253
Doesn't this mean this entire general is composed of race traitors
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>>169117482
>Two lesbians can even produce a biological daughter without involving any male genetic donor.
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>>169033596
t. shitskin
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>>169117606
Then she's the race traitor not you. You can't be an accomplice to race betrayal either you did it or not.
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>>169117848
No chin white boy alert.
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@169117848
t. cumskin
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>>169036790
>>169036852
4 or 5. Damn it pick one
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>>169117984
The first one ignored this post >>169032834
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>>169117898
No pic? I know third world internet isn't that bad.

>>169117718
Be the change you want to see.
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>>169117848
>t.
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>>169117747
He's talking about experiments they've done to basically cause one egg cell to mutate into a pseudo-sperm and fertilize the other. Don't know if they're doing that for the public yet.

They're also working on producing children from two sperm, but that's harder due to a sperm lacking the support structure an egg cell has for the zygote. Making progress though.

In 30 years they'll be able to produce children from basically any cells and incubate it externally, so shit will get weird.
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Where's the Grohlposter when you need him
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>>169118232
>t. /r/futurism
Outta here.
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>>169118364
>tfw no scifi grand strategy game
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>>169117898
>>169117909
t. literal subhumans
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MAN I LOVE VIDEOGAMES
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Man I love memes
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Stop shitposting
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what do
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Tell me about the craziest shit you've seen in any game
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the last 3 fucking times i've tried to play milan and my king has died aged 80 within less than a year or so of my heir turning 16. I JUST WANT THE FUCKING REPUBLIC
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>>169119034
Play a superior game like shogi
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>>169119034
horse on f7 or on g4
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This thread is unsalvageable, new thread when?
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I still don't know how to get a shieldmaiden.
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>>169119332
Déjà vu.
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>>169119181
Is shogi grand strategy? You have to worry about capturing territory, multi-unit battle tactics, and even unit production.
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>>169119061
Byzantium somehow fucking up the t*rks.
Burgundy actually getting shit done for once, taking all of France and part of the HRE.
Aragon PUing Castile
In the same game
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Coo-ee
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>>169119939
thanks cobra
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>>169120136
Delet or consequences
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Completed this achievement game of Georgia On My Mind and A Blessed Nation. Whoopdeedoo.
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Ah yes, the correct culture.
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>>169121345
And religious map. Maybe a majority Coptic/Georgian USA would've been a better reality.
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>>169121361
>>169032834
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>>169121361
Now all porn is banned, and feminism and government membership in cults is mandatory.
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>>169121361
K O R E A N
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ummm fite my champion??
Why is all of north germany noculture
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>>169121953
The fuck is this supposed to be
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Reminder that in 150~ posts based R&I will make a new thread.
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>>169122061
converted game or something lmao
I have to fix all the pops and provinces still
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Hi
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>>169112634
Geo-politically speaking, Africa is fucked. Back then and now.

Despite having plenty of rivers, very few of them are good for transport, due to frequent waterfalls. And even when these waterays are calm, they rarely meet or pass nearby another waterway. So rather than acting like natural infrastructure, Africa's rivers are natural boundaries to expansion. Add to that the lack of tameable wildlife, poor agricultural development and prevalence of disease and you end up with a clear enough picture.

Large scale civilization building was nigh on impossible, at least in the south. In North Africa, numerous empires thrived but were stopped from expanding by the vast desert of the sahara.

So, the majority of the continent never coalesced into any sort of major nations. There were a few exceptions. The Empire of Mali, the city-state of Great Zimbabwe. But for the most part, the African tribes remained insular.

The technological and philosophical disparity between the tribes and various colonial empires was so vast that there was never really a question as to whether the empires could take over. It was more a question of who would capture what.
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>>169122705
Hello, anon, how are you doing today?
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>>169121525
>>169121580
>>169121663

Here's the blob if you were wondering
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>>169121953
>>169122501
I can't wait until the Third Odyssey mod gets adapted to M&T 2.0
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>>169122817
Why would you blob into India?
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Any modders here? I'd like to create an event that simply makes a PU with another country.
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>>169123125
just use the console lmao
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>>169123207
The AI won't use console.
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>>169122968

Hwan Empire blob. Currently trying to destabilize Ming to try and get China underwraps.
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>>169123301
In your pic Hwan Memepire doesn't even hold India tho.
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>>169123426

I know, but I really wanted those shekels
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>>169123586
Shameful display, anon.
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>>169123706

What can I say, I'm a greedy jew.
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>>169122753
t. gun germs and steel
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>>169123954
Prisoners of Geography, actually. Just finished the section on Africa so it's fresh in my mind.

Guns, Germs and Steel is on my list though.
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>>169122753
Now tell us why native north and south americans were primitive.
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>>169124368
They took longer to get there and start buildin shit senpai
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>>169124513
Senpai it was tens of thousands of years ago.
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>>169124513
>>169124595
To put that into perspective, the Native Americans were there before the Indo-Europeans stop being retarded horse nomads and conquered everything west and south of modern China that wasn't a desert.
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>>169124595
Lack of large domesticatable animals/"beasts of burden"
The Inca only had guinea pigs and llamas I believe, and they were among the most advanced.

Without horses, oxen, or even camels how were they supposed to build civilizations?

>>169124731
Horse Nomads are already far more advanced than most native groups in the Americas, which were strictly in the stone age (despite having developed complex cultures and philosophies that exhibit their resourcefulness and intelligence).

Horse nomads would've conquered the Americas too if there had been any horses there at that time.
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>>169125114
>tfw to smert to domesticate 'orses so u kill them all instead
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>>169124368
A similar lack of tameable wildlife. Especially in the Northern continent. There was very little move towards proper nation-building most settlements were temporary.

There were a fair few Empires around central America, owing to decent vegetation and the llama. No I'm not joking, the llama was the closest thing they had to a beast of burden. However, once again, the natural landscape was an impedance.

Dense vegetation in the rain-forests, bordered by an immense, continent spanning mountain range does not lend itself to the development of agriculture and infrastructure.
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>>169125570
The Mississippi is a pretty great river though, you'd expect that to get civilized, nothing domesticated but dogs besides.
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Couldn't this whole beast of burden meme just be dealt with through slavery? How many slaves = one horse?
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>>169122501
>Eli-Adj Europe
>Eli-Adj Asia
>Eli-Adj Africa
Where the fuck is your capital?
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>>169125971
Slavery is why the Roman Empire didn't industrialize despite having primitive steam and hydraulic engines. It eventually cripples you technologically.
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>>169126001
New Constantinople AKA Elysia
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>>169126063
>Elysia, Valley of the Nude a 1933 film about the nudist movement
hmm...
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>>169126241
>Elysium or the Elysian Fields (Ancient Greek: Ἠλύσιον πεδίον, Ēlýsion pedíon) is a conception of the afterlife that developed over time and was maintained by some Greek religious and philosophical sects and cults. Initially separate from the realm of Hades, admission was reserved for mortals related to the gods and other heroes. Later, it expanded to include those chosen by the gods, the righteous, and the heroic, where they would remain after death, to live a blessed and happy life, and indulging in whatever employment they had enjoyed in life
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>>169126241
It's basically where Jamestown colony was, in North America.
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>>169125949
Dogs lend themselves towards a hunting lifestyle. And while some light farming did happen in arable lands, there was no way to achieve the scale that Eurasians could because, once agian, nothing resembling the docile cow to help out.

>>169125971
Cows, Yaks and Horses can work for much longer than humans, and without the same bellyaching and potential for them to turn on you. The Aztecs used slaves, but mostly for building projects and human sacrifice.
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>>169126053
>tfw you'll never live in the timeline where the Roman Empire went through a civil rights movement, freed their slaves, and built the steam engine
>tfw we could have conquered the world at least 1000 years earlier
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How did all those Germans get there?
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>>169126745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
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>>169126745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
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>>169126745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
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>the japanese emperor of rome will never instate imperial communism
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>>169126745
Google Volga Germans and click the wikipedia page
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>>169126745
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
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>>169126745
Is this bait
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>>169126821
>>169126829
>>169126832
Checking which one is mine desu.
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>>169127032
I have attained first for Tsar Nicholas II, rightful ruler of all Russia
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>Catherine the Great published manifestos in 1762 and 1763 inviting Europeans (except Jews)[3] to immigrate and become Russian citizens and farm Russian lands while maintaining their language and culture.
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>>169126821
>>169126829
>>169126832
>6 seconds
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>>169119939
>I'm Kaiser Wilhelm II
>The first was a gas
>But like the Godfather
>The sequel kicks ass
>Got clowns to the west of me
>And jokers to the east
>But Austro-Hungary's my mate
>Gonna eradicate the Serbian beast
>So back off Cousin Nick
>Don't take the mick
>And tell your mates France
>Not to interfere
>This ain't no prance
>It's a German war dance
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>>169127180
Nicky is cute! CUTE!
I was the last one.
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>tfw 2nd
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>>169126976
It's not bait, I just didn't realize there were Volga Germans that far into Russia. It's not like I don't know Volga Germans.
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>>169127180
umm why the fuck is he wearing a soviet uniform..? he wasnt a communsit idiot. I'm a history teacher
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why does hpm not reflect greek thrace and greek istanbul
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I love all these excuses for why Native Americans and Africans couldn't build civilizations. Maybe it has something to do with their low IQs. And yes, intelligence and personality are inherited to a certain degree.
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>>169127451
>I just didn't realize there were Volga Germans that far into Russia
>that far into Russia
>posts a picture of the Volga River
>knows about the Volga Germans
>Volga
>far
>Germans
>know
>bait
>It's
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>>169127473
>
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>>169127758
Because he's a Turk
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>>169127473
The Imperial Russian Army (White Russian Army) wore uniforms with red on them. I presume that's just Nicky's General Uniform.
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>>169127814
You really don't have to be smart to implement basic agriculture. Hence it's the basis of most early civilizations. But you do need the pre-existing conditions for it to be possible. That's why humans travelled out of Africa in the first place, there was nothing to tie them to the land.
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>>169127473
>file name
>Confinement in Tsarskoe Selo
Is the ability to miss things in front of your eyes something you learn as a teacher?
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>>169127852
Don't make it more complicated than it is, sherlock. I know Volga Germans, I just didn't realize they were so concentrated and around Saratov. The Volga is a long fucking river.
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>>169128348
yes, i was taught to do so so that i wouldnt pick up on mistake made by my students and correct them, which would discourage them from attending class
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>>169128321
No, Africa has some of the best lands and rivers on the planet (see the experiences of farmers who colonized Africa). In addition to being rich in natural resources, Africa is also almost perfect for human settlement. Thousands of years ago when humans were still starting out, Africa was rather lush compared to how it is now. In addition to being rather hospitable the weather came in easy to predict cycles and it wasn't as hot as it is today. The lack of tamable animals is a meme as well. Just because zebras don't lend themselves well to domestication doesn't mean it can't be done. Our modern domesticated breeds of animals didn't just exist in the wild. They were dangerous creatures like zebras are and were bred for many generations until they became tame. It's not because conditions were hard that civilization failed to materialize in Africa, it's because conditions were easy. Same in North America where humans hunted most of the megafauna to death and became the apex predator. Same deal in Australia too. There was no motivation for humans to create anything more sophisticated than sharpened sticks and tribes. Compare to South America, Asia and Europe where the humans had to overcome many dangers and as a result created civilizations. Hell, I'm being unfair to North American natives because they had also created rudimentary civilizations before the Europeans came.
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>>169127814
The causality can go either way,
You don't need a particularly high IQ to chase an animal or forage for fruit so there's little selective pressure for intelligence among uncivilised people.
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>>169128937
final redpill:
whether or not some humans are less capable based on ethnicity is irrelevant, as the best human or the best race is still imperfect. civlization is also not a good thing. the french enlightenment was not a good thing. european "ideals" are harmful.
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>>169128321
>t. Jared Diamond
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>>169129436
t. paleo diet

modern world is imperfect but it sure beats dying of smallpox
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>>169129436
>t. Kaczynski
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>>169129070
Yeah that's the point I was making. Africa and Australia (North America too to a certain extent) were ridiculously easy to live in so there was no selective pressure for humans to do anything more than chase animals and collect berries. Lack of pressure made the populations of these areas complacent and their complacency got passed along to their offspring whereas in areas where human populations were challenged the opposite got passed to the offspring.

>>169129436
>European ideals are harmful he says while posting in a modern society based on and created by European ideals
You can always go back to wearing no clothes,dying of common diseases, never leaving the area you were born in and scratching the dirt for your sustenance if that's what you want.
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>>169128937
>See the experiences of farmers who colonized Africa
>colonized
>with access to domesticated animals, pre-existing experience and the support of globe-spanning empires.

Africa is absolutely arable, once you know what you're doing. But it's far from ideal as a place to develop society. For some of the reasons you outline, as well as many others presented within this thread.
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>>169128937
>Just because zebras don't lend themselves well to domestication doesn't mean it can't be done.
They really can't though
inb4 pic of Rothschild guy with zebras attached to his carriage, those weren't domesticated.
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>>169129761
>domesticated animals that their ancient ancestors spent many generations breeding in a harsher environment than Africa
>pre-existing experience and globe spanning empires that were built up from nothing in a harsher environment than Africa
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>>169128937
>They were dangerous creatures like zebras are and were bred for many generations until they became tame

Other way around. Cows and sheep and llamas are generally docile animals and can easily be tamed and fed. The biggest disadvantage to the zebra is that it gets very aggressive when you attempt to tame it.

Aggressive animals who were domesticated conform to a pack mentality. Humans could domesticate them by taking the pack leader's place; this is how the horse and the dog were domesticated. Zebras don't have a similar pack hierarchy, it's every zebra for himself.

Cats are a fucking mystery.
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>>169129893
They were tamed and I'm sure if people could get away with the kind of selective breeding our ancestors used without PETA going bonkers, there could be domesticated Zebras within a few decades. But as I said before, there was no pressure for the indigenous people of Africa to do so and there is no pressure to do it now and in fact, it would be more of a hassle than it's worth. Or do you think that horses and cows existed as domestic creatures before humans got to them.
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Whats the best Cold War victoria 2 mod? New World Order or Cold War Enhanced?
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>>169129761
>>169129893
>Europeans spent thousands of years perfecting farming and breeding for domesticating animals
>Africans had the same kind of resources and the same amount of time still didnt catch up as fast as White men did
please tell me how race is not a part of it.

>>169130082
>Cats are a fucking mystery.
mutual agreement "you give me food I hunt you food"

>>169130139
CWE is currently better functionally but NWO current version has good events but shit provinces
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>>169119034
chess... more like shit
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>>169128937
You can't actually believe Europe has "harsh" conditions and African conditions are easy
Gotta be bait
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>>169130246
I got the reference.
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>>169130082
>Cats are a fucking mystery.
Or perhaps, as modern science proves, intelligence and behaviors/personality are inherited, so by breeding the most intelligent and docile animals and removing the more wild ones, after x amount of time, you'll have a domesticated breed of the species. Hell, we're having success with domesticated foxes. Don't tell me that zebras are magical creatures that cannot be domesticated at all.
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>>169130126
>They were tamed
No, they were not. You are wrong. Zebras are not tameable. They are far more aggressive and skittish than horses, even wild ones.
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>>169130341
Have you seen European winter?
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>>169130245
>Africans had the same kind of resources
no they didn't, zebras and rhinos and giraffes and hippos weren't tameable by prehistoric man and are extremely hard to tame today with modern methods

can't domesticate without taming
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>>169130341
Sorry if you're too retarded to know better.
t. Bio major

>>169130409
>le zebras are magically incapable of being tamed or domesticated meme
How many times will you use this?
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>>169130580
It's not a meme. You are thick.
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>>169129927
We've already covered that Europe and Asia both have better natural placement for the development of infrastructure and trade, as well as plenty of arable land. Parts of Africa can say the same, mostly north of the Sahara.
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>>169130361
>Don't tell me that zebras are magical creatures that cannot be domesticated at all.
Nothing magical about it, zebras are asshole animals who have no pack mentality, are aggressive, are skittish. If zebras were easy to tame and train and domesticate do you really think all the horse carriages in NYC wouldn't use them? Kids love zebras.
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>>169130583
Holy shit I actually forgot that this was /gsg/.
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>>169130449
Have you?
You barely even need clothes for European winter.
Average winter in Athens is around 10 celsius at the coldest
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>>169130583
At least change the name of your empire, you fucking animal.
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Which nation is the most fun in EU3
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>>169130449
yeah, but even primitive man understood that you can put a jacket on

we couldn't beat malaria until the 19th century
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>>169130583
>not using the dynasty names
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>>169130245
But Neolithic Invaders introduced farming to Europe? Does that mean I can't be proud of my Paleo European caveman genes anymore?
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>>169130449
I'm sure it's unpleasant further north and away from the warmer coasts... you know... the last places in Europe to adopt agriculture, feudalism and become civilised?
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>>169130802
ming, you start with a broken explorer IIRC

enjoy having the americas
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>>169130629
You're just looking for excuses for why Africans couldn't develop anything worthwhile.

>>169130647
No they don't. As a prehistoric man in Asia and Europe, conditions will be much harsher than prehistoric Africa. And back then, the Sahara desert used to be much smaller so plenty of land in Africa was arable (and still is to this day) and not just north of the Sahara, but also to the south.

>>169130679
As I said before, there was no pressure on indigenous Africans back then because of how easy Africa was to live in and there is no pressure now to domesticate them so at this rate, they will never be domesticated.

>>169130713
By all means please go to Sweden during the winter with no clothes on. Post results.
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>>169130802
Bohemia. Western tech, same culture group as Poland and Hungary for easy PU cores, and easy to become emperor. That was the first nation I played back in HTT.
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>>169131040
>Sweden

lmao
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>>169127814
Native Americans test as high as Middle Easterners, though. Not super impressive, but that's enough to build civilization. So there would need to be a reason why they didn't.
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Is NWO 1.12 less shitty?Anyone made tweaks?
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>>169131049
>and easy to become emperor
Bohemia literally starts as emperor m8
>>169130957
I've never heard about that, gonna check whether it's in DW
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>>169131180
In my later posts, I gave Native Americans credit where it was due. They did manage to make something rudimentary before Europeans came. That's more than anything Africans or Abos did.
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>>169131040
>sweden is the whole of Europe
want to know how I know you're retarded?
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>>169130891
>he ignored this post
kek.
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>>169131261
Forgive me, I haven't touched EU3 in a few years, so I forgot a few details of the 1399 start.
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>>169131040
>As a prehistoric man in Asia and Europe, conditions will be much harsher than prehistoric Africa
t. i have never been south of the mediterranean
>As I said before, there was no pressure on indigenous Africans back then because of how easy Africa was to live in
t. i have never spent a day without clean water being a faucet away
>sweden
oh yeah that would explain it
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>http://i.imgur.com/rhA51Jp.jpg
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>>169130872
>>169130765
but m8s, my empire is visigothic
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>>169131361
You should play it again, it's still vastly superior to 3
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>>169131301
Then go to Germany, England, Poland, etc. Anywhere slightly north of the mediterranean. Go there with no clothes on during the winter with only the tools available to a prehistoric man. See how "easy" Europe is.
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>>169131392
That Ukraine tho.
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>>169131413
>visigothic
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>>169131392
>china's farmland is thoroughly mediocre
then why do they have so many fucking people
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>>169131040
>No they don't. As a prehistoric man in Asia and Europe, conditions will be much harsher than prehistoric Africa. And back then, the Sahara desert used to be much smaller so plenty of land in Africa was arable (and still is to this day) and not just north of the Sahara, but also to the south.

The Sahel ain't arable. Rainforests ain't particularly easy to convert to farmland either. Further south, yeah sure, decent enough ground. But you know where else is fantastic for farming? The Mediterranean.
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>>169131392
Why is green used for both being high? Isn't low resilience better?
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>>169131354
That wasn't me. You're responding to someone else. Since you want a reply so badly, I'll give you this (You) though.

>>169131381
>haha if I pretend that we're talking about modern times instead of prehistoric times, that'll stump him
As I said before, to a prehistoric man in prehistoric times, Europe, Asia and South America were much harsher places than Africa. And for your information, I lived in Africa for 8 years.
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>>169131413
Yuck.
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>>169131413
10/10
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>>169131481
Again, you can put on a jacket to counter the cold. Prehistoric man could figure out how to make pelts and fur and stuff into basic clothes to survive in the cold. Prehistoric man could live in a hut and make a campfire to protect and fight the cold. Prehistoric man could not take a prophylactic treatment to fight malaria.

Look at how fucked Africa and South America are by malaria. I'd happily live through German winters to get away from that shit as prehistoric man.
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>>169131481
British Winter is mild as fuck unless you live in the scottish highlands. It rains a lot, but I'm going to go ahead and guess that the earliest settlers to the British Isles had figured out how to wear animal hides.
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>>169131581
Here's something else that Africa provided that the Mediterranean region doesn't, food surplus without the need for extensive farming. Tribes in prehistoric times could get by on just hunting and gathering while the further up north they went, the scarcer things became.
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>>169131663
>I lived in Africa for 8 years.
we all know achmed, you were born in egypt and moved to sweden as a """syrian""" """refugee"""
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>>169131481
>Anywhere slightly north of the mediterranean.
t. goalpost shifter pro

fucking retard
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>>169130409
Probably because most wild horses are feral horses, not actual undomesticated horses.

You should be comparing cows to aurochs or something.
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>>169131532
Ukraine being a breadbasket of Europe isn't a meme, the land there is incredible for farming, they just suffer for poor management issues.


>>169131602
High resilience is good, it means that the soil doesn't naturally erode and the nutrients wash away making agriculture naturally sustainable.

>>169131575
Chinas secret isn't so much the land itself but the Rivers and the much southern location than France and buddies allowing for much higher yield.

Additionally most of historical China (warring states and 3 kingdoms and sheet) was located in that large batch of Yellow and Green between Yangtze and Yellow river
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>>169131848
And how did they figure out how to make pelts and fur for clothes and huts and campfires for winter? They moved out of Africa (easy mode) and moved up north where learning how to do these things was necessary for survival.
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>>169131989
This isn't true at all
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>>169131989
I think i'd rather hunt wild boar than take on a wildebeest, m8
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>>169131481
None of those places developed European culture friend, they were tribal lands till Southern Europeans spread their culture and inventions there. And if you actually think little bits of cold is any challenge for even a cave man tier civilization then you are just retraded
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>>169132039
I was talking about undomesticated horses, smartass.
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>>169132173
>africans never developed extensive agriculture
>africans didn't have access to enough food through hunting and gathering to survive

pick one
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>>169132031
The mediterranean region provided enough challenge to humans that making civilization was a necessity for survival but wasn't so difficult as to make farming hard hence why you see many mediterranean civilizations from both Europe and Africa
>>
I want to be Boer nation, do I play Transvaal or Oranje?
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>>169132140
are you going to tell me that the africans never used pelts and fur for clothes or made huts, despite their primary source of food apparently being hunting
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>>169132234
>you and your tribe ambush wildebeest using tactics you see lions use
>wildebeests are dumb and fall for it everytime
>pits and sharp sticks are enough to kill with minimal risk
>meat for days
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>>169132386
Mediterranean region provides more food trough hunting and gathering easier than Majority of Africa friendo
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>>169132432
Yeah
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>Be badass Norse dynasty that raids and rules all of the shitty frozen north.
>Dynasty name is fucking Whiteshirt.
Wish I knew some Old Norse to make something appropriate, though knowing my tastes it'd just sound edgy.
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How accurate is this?
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>>169132598
Where's Finland
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>>169132539
>tactics you see lions use

LION TICTACS BOYS
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>>169132017
>assumes I'm a mudslime and tries to deflect when his ad hominem was proven wrong
Yeah nah cunt. Some of us actually do stuff with our lives instead of being a NEET.

>>169132502
They did but there was no necessity for them to do anything more than that.
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>>169132589
>he doesn't know how to use dictionaries online

kek
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>>169132432
Natalia.
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>>169132693
>f*nland
It's in the trash where it belongs.
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>>169132386
>africans didn't have access to enough food through hunting and gathering to survive
whomst are you quoting?
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>>169132717
That's literally what African tribesmen do. Have you taken a gander at any of their folklore?
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>>169132719
Okay so the africans had the same clothes the europeans had, animal pelts and fur and stuff

but the africans had malaria and all these other miserable tropical diseases, along with smallpox and the plague and everything else the europeans got

europeans didnt have malaria and tropical shit

so who is better off? hint: yurop
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>>169132565
Does it matter which one of the two I pick?

Will I be able to take the rest of the cape colony from England and form a complete South Africa at some point?
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>>169131879
British winters actually used to be colder, though.
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>>169132389
You're just talking out of your arse now. Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>169111519
>the glorious
>not restitutor orbis
>>
but in what game
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>>169132386
Surviving does not mean thriving, my friend. And just surviving is generally the cause of mass emmigration.
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>>169132946
>Does it matter which one of the two I pick?
Yeah
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>>169132912
Africans also developed immunity to malaria. Read about why sickle cell anemia is so prevalent amongst African populations. Also Europeans would come to be exposed to many diseases indigenous to Europe and from Asia like Bubonic Plague and Smallpox.
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>>169133041
W&B
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>>169132880
>lion tictacs handed down through african folklore

stick a fork in this one, boys, we're done
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>650 posts
WHERE ARE YOU, R&I? SAVE US FROM THIS THREAD!
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>>169132693
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what happened to jake's teeth
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>>169133090
if africans developed immunity to malaria why didn't europeans develop immunity to smallpox?

africans > europeans
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>>169112634
Bet you're fucking sorry now.
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>>169133206
Now we are talking

>>169133090
>Africans also developed immunity to malaria.
pic related to you as well
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>>169133032
>the mediterranean region is easier than the rest of Africa trust me
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>>169132734
>He thinks they'll be in proper grammatical form if you do that.
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>>169133248
Scotland
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Anything new from HPM?
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>>169113702
This is a big reason too, certain tribes didn't even protest against colonization just so they could rule over their rivals on a colonial government.
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What's the most fun place to make a custom duchy blobbing everywhere with holy war in CK2?
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>>169133643
Must have been a pretty sweet deal until the Europeans pulled out and they had to deal with all the minority tribes that fucking hated them alone.
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>>169133776
Africa
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>>169126745
Volga Germans
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>>169133381
what game?
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>>169133776
>custom duchy
Nani?
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>>169133271
If I remember correctly, Europeans made smallpox go extinct.

>>169133375
>https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/sickle_cell.html
>ctrl+f "Malaria"
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>>169133643
>>169133824
Literally what happened in Ivory Coast
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>>169133776
Crete/Sicily/Cyprus
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>>169133375
Retarded sp*rdo poster.
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>>169133956
Worth noting that Middle Easterners and Mediterranean Europeans also developed sickle cell.
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>>169133949
The football player?
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>>169133127
I won't stop you from putting your head in the sand. You do you buddy.
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>>169133956
And that "imminity" is a massive hinderence at everything but Malaria prevention and they still die by the millions to it.
Malaria is still humanity's biggest killer
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>>169133824
That's the cause of a lot of Africa's current conflicts. The Rwandan genocide was directly a result of the Belgians elevating the Tutsis over the Hutus and then eventually buggering off.
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Enlighten me in detail - why is PDM/CoE II shit and why is HPM not? I'm trying to start a Vicky game and I haven't found anything convincing - specifically on which one has an economy that makes any kind of sense.
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>>169134318
Horse
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>>169134318
trob
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Can someone point me to a place where I can learn the key diffs between HPM and PDM/CoE II (specifically the differences between the sanity of their economies)? I'm shopping for Vicky mods after a long hiatus and I have no goddamn idea.
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what's the difference between pop demand mod and historical project mod?
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just play vinella like the game was meant to be played you fucking losers
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Alright lads, I've got a small issue with the eu4 to vic2 converter - north german culture doesn't work, it just shows up as noculture ingame. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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>>169134228
You can thank environmentalists banning DDT worldwide for that.
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>>169134114
Middle Easterners and Mediterranean Europeans also live in geographic areas prone to malaria.
http://www.understandingrace.org/humvar/sickle_01.html
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>>169134318
>>169134461
>>169134478
>>169134515
>>169134516
>t. Steamcordplaza
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>>169134091
Already did an Iconoclast Cyrpus and a Jewish Sicily, was pretty great
Any other suggestions?
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>>169134601
I am simply noting it's not an African exclusive thing.
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>>169134610
Right, I forgot the extent of how autistic this general was. Ebin, just ebin.
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is nwo 1.12 shit or not goddamnit
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>>169133946
https://affinelayer.com/pixsrv/
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>>169134716
>Ebin, just ebin.
xddd ebin spurdo sparde :DDDD benis in bagina x-ddd
>>>/int/
Fuck off and never come back.
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>>169134798
It's got the shitty region system, but pop growth is different (better)
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>>169133383
History sort of supports his argument though...
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>>169135001
is there a changelog anywhere?
dumb dev why don't you put it with the download link
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>>169134895
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>>169135226
desu, to get to the mediterranean you have to get through the Sahara, so only the best survive the trip and get to settle there.
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>>169135465
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>700 posts
>R&I nowhere in sight
Did he abandon us?
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>>169135405
no idea
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>>169135486
People actually got up there by traveling through the Horn.
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How is the Indian gameplay in CK2? Are the religions and events fun?
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>>169135738
No.
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kings of england died from malaria
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>what are rafts
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