/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

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>>169018880
There he goes again, etc

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Look at this fucking perfect waifu

>>169019357
Looks like complete shit only for trailer bait. I bet that wasn't even a true stagger but instead a mount

>>169019357
And here is a prime example of an art that will have next to zero practical use, but hey at least It looks cool, right?

>>169019357
>tfw no disable effects option so you can just see him do the move

Same for all these glowing weapons tbqh

>>169019553
At least it looks like you can do it anywhere, so it's not like the DB equivalent that must be done off a ledge making it even more useless.

>>169019357
This one webm is generations in a fucking nutshell

Screw the concept of the weapon being weighty, it just has to be "COOL".

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>>169019470
>>169019553
>>169019967

>>169019967
>not muh mh

>only extra bow skill my charms allow me is bombardier
I usually start off bow runs with sleep bombing, so along with boosting the blast it's actually not that bad. Was hoping for crit boost though.

>>169020073
this one is gud

>>169019214
>Don't get that helm anymore
>Black belt armor also loses it's hairstyle
>No old school female chainmail armor
Shit's unacceptable. Especially now that you go back to Kokoto.

>>169020248
All it does is charge your shield for much less damage and leaving you open. It's trailer bait

>>169019967
There's tons of weight in the move, the hunter is on all fours at the end.

>>169020365
>for much less damage
[citation needed]

>>169020468
the famitsu article. All that art does is charge your phials after the attack. If it charged your phials while dispensing all 5 phials in that concentrated attack then it would have been useful for stylish KOs.

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>>169020654
>>169020365

>>169020654
It clearly does damage, though, since the naja staggers. We do not know the MV on it. KOs are not damage and most of your actual damage doesn't come from phials outside of SAED and the energy blade art.

>>169019470
>>169019553
It looks like it has quick startup and hits annoying flying pieces of shit. Its usability will solely depend on how much damage it does.

You'd think people would know better than to discredit HAs without even knowing their MVs.

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>>169021310
But that requires actual brain power.

>Alchemy Bazooka only does 60 damage
Pitiful

>>169021310
none of the weak HA got a buff except Supernova which has a sweetspot now. Shit like Sonic Smash is still complete garbage. What makes you think every HA is getting proper damage?

>>169021541
bomb-spam champion still goes to cat, who can now get reduced support move costs and the new support move that gives them full hp + special gauge at the cost of an acorn

>>169021585
What makes you think all of the new HAs are going to be weak?

>>169021736
because almost all of the old offensive HA are weak

>>169021808
>Spinning Meteor
>Corkscrew Jab (no fucking idea why this got buffed)
>Blood Wind
>Sakura Slash
>Critical Juncture
>Shoryugeki
>Round Force
>Extract Hunter

>>169022052
>not listing 10-phial energy blade

>>169022142
Energy blade even with 5 phials is strong as fuck.

>>169022052
you named basically 2/3 of the already strong offensive HAs in Gen. Congrats. Now how about that Sonic Smash and Trinity Raven?
Oh, that's right, still shit.

>>169022178
I had a build based around maximum phial + HA art generation and HA damage just so I could spam energy blade all hunt long

shit was so cash

>>169021585
They will likely get a G rank version, like a lvl VI, V and VI version of those arts.

>>169022250
Yeah, I named a bunch of the strong offensive HAs.
So what makes you think all of the new ones are going to be weak?

Double up is the speed bug you want right?

>>169023098
yes

>>169018976
Source for this image?

Counterattack!

Is alchemy actually going to be worth using it is it a meme?

>>169023747
It seems to be a shittier striker with free items, maybe if striker didn't exist it would have a real niche with three HAs. Its only unique attack option is garbage unless there's some factor we don't know about yet, and the items it produces are better than the normal versions of the items (like a whetstone that is also a hunter's drink) but still not good enough to even match what HH or just picking striker can do.

I could be completely wrong, of course, this is all as far as I can tell.

>>169023747
*shake shake shake*

Why do Hellblade weapons look like such shit?
Are there any good alternatives to that for LS, SA and CBs?

>>169020471
Low Rank monsters tend to spam attacks because their moveset is restricted and their AI limited.

>>169023747
For some weapons it's a straight upgrade over Guild (Hammer and LBG).

>>169024181
Grimclaw LS, Silverwind SA, Tigrex CB.

>>169024082
I'm hoping there'll be a way to re-arrange the way your items appear in your barrel so you could get access to certain ones easier. It seems really weak right now besides getting aoe healing and SP buffs

>>169024475
does anyone actually using guild lbg, I was under the impression everyone went adept

>>169018976
I still can't understand how it can do that third move with the wing fingers extending forward like that. It didn't make sense back in the second trailer and it still doesn't make sense now.

>>169018794
i want to feel that squeak under my own weight

>>169024642
Actually, everyone goes Striker on LBG.

>>169024320
it's better when you actually slice the iceball before it creates a tornado, try again nerd.

>>169024763
is that just for god's island memeing or actual LBGs?

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>>169024825
Adept LBG is shit, you should always go guild or striker for Full House + Absolute Readiness

>>169024642
I LBG most of the time and use striker because 3 arts is nice to have

>>169024825
>>169024920
It's a matter of preference really. I use striker.

>>169024825
Striker is the best for explosive/status, normal and pierce, other styles are inferior in every way

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>>169023747
did somebody say a meme

Will MH4U manage to satisfy my abnormal love for gear and crafting grinding, as well as my love of hack and flash combat? Gunlances and Bowguns look neat as well, but I know nothing of the series aside from a bit of 3U.

>>169027264
If you just like grinding, then yes, 4U's endgame is all grinding, and depending on how lucky you are/what you want, it may never end.

>>169027264
its more of the same PLUS lots of grinding for special final upgrades for your weapons and really fun quests that have a RNG chance to give you the strongest weapons in the game!

>>169027264
>Gunlances
you won't be satisfied too much with that one, there's literally only one GL worth making. maybe another if you feel like wide spamming.

>>169027656
>my abnormal love for gear and crafting grinding
anon obviously enjoys the journey as much as the destination so it doesnt matter

>>169027264
>hack and flash
What does this mean?

>>169028205
>A(S)D(F)
>brain incapable making simple inferences and filling in gaps of data

cringe

What is the point of the amatsu event? Is it literally just amatsu except it hits a bit harder and has 10% more health and gives you twice as many accolades? Seems dumb when there's easier ways to get accolades regardless. You even have a higher chance of getting at least one heavenly dragongem from the regular amatsu's quest rewards, as well as a small chance of getting two.

>>169028370
Can't you access it at an earlier HR?

>>169028370
so lazy people that don't meet the HR requirement can still initiate the quest. they have a bunch like it.

>>169028369
He obviously knows you are doing a play on the phrase "hack and slash." He's asking what you mean by flash, which is why he asked "what does this mean?" and not "where does the phrase hack and flash come from?"

Aspergers, I swear to G-D...

>>169028369
Now what do YOU mean?

>>169028494
Oh wow. I didn't think of that. Also kind of dumb, it takes no time to get to 70 (or was it 80?)

>>169028553
It's autismspeak for replace s with f, as in replace the s in hack and slash with f for hack and flash

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>>169028553
he obviously meant to type slash but pressed f because theyre close together how do you people remember to breat hoyl sht

>>169028782
>>169029143
I thought maybe he liked flashy gameplay or something, tswhy I asked.

>>169028369
>>169029143
>one is to the left and one is to the right of the previous letter
dyslexics should be purged from the gene pool

>>169027421
>>169027639
Well, I play Warframe/Marvel Heroes/ARPG games and dungeon crawlers with plenty of grinding, so I feel alright with it. My main concern is dead online and being shit on by the early "boss" monsters. Like that fucking Congolla(?) in 3U. It's under $20 to purchase, so it's not like I'll be wasting a ton of money if I am unhappy with it.

>>169028205
Using chopping and cutting weapons, before blinding the enemies with flashbangs. Basic CQC stuff.

>>169030649
Somehow mesmerizing.

>>169030649
It's like I'm really on YTMND!

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>>169019357
Embarrassing

>>169031082
captain
jean luc picard
of the uss
enterprise

>>169030590
> Congolla(?) in 3U
Not in the game. Nothing really similar to it in the game either.

>>169031258
The only thing that's embarrassing is the stiffness on MHO's animations compared to mainline. Couldn't Tencent spare a couple bucks for mocap?

>>169031518
But you can see the running movement is very natural, obviously mocaped.

>>169030590
>Using chopping and cutting weapons, before blinding the enemies with flashbangs. Basic CQC stuff.
You probably think this isn't super accurate to MH

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>>169031258
Frontierization is in full force nostalgiafags cry more cause its here to stay!

>>169031517
Oh good. Fuck that ape, so much. Killed 3U for me. Only positive that came from /v/ shilling Monhun was that the PSP had some awesome Musou games on it.

Why do randoms always want to talk so much? You join the hub to hunt but all they want to do is yak yak yak on and on while you're standing waiting for them to start the damn quest already. STFU and lets go already. Don't wait for a full room. Don't try and chat just start the damn hunt!

>>169032010
you must love charlotte

>>169031840
>webm unrelated

>>169032010
Yeah anon I know. Some people just want to sit there and talk about the most meaningless shit. Like my friend Jorge. All he does is bitch that his girlfriend won't give me him.

I try to tell him, dude relax, you shouldn't expect girls to always want to suck your dick, I mean they are people too. I suggested he go down on her once in a while and he said that was faggot shit.

So I'm thinking "wow, that's some misogynistic shit" but I just tell him that it would most likely make her more willing to take a load in the mouth when she knows there's something in it for her.

He just gave me some lip service like he'll try it but I doubt it. I mean he never takes my advice or anything. I tried to tell him that selling his jeep and buying a bicycle was a bad idea, but he did it anyway because it saves gas and claims he doesn't travel very far.

>>169032010
Vous parlez français ?

>>169022269
share build pls

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>finally got a max attack relic charge blade with good sharpness, 40 purple with +1
>nimbleness jewel taking up the slots
>no element

Another thing that pisses me off with randoms is the constant abandoning of quests. WTF is with it? They play like shit for a few minutes using up your lifepowder then abandon and wait in the hub for a minute before leaving. Why? What are they doing alone in the hub?

>>169031915
Are you kidding me. Conga wasn't in 3U.

>>169034312
Who are you quoting?

>>169034338
I played with a random the other day against Stonefists and his cat was a fucking useless bombcat that sent me flying like 3 times on top of his being a useless SnS who sent me flying.

Totally abandoned that shit.

I someone bails on you, you're probably a retard.

>>169034534
Why would you abandon when you can just disconnect?

Should I buy generations or wait for the new game? I haven't played since 4U.

>>169034312
>muh element

>>169034597
Yes. XX will likely only come out here at the end of the year

>>169034669
Well it's free damage that I'm missing out on. Plus it could have potentially been sleep or para.

>>169034593
I don't understand your question. I abandoned and left the hub to go play with someone else.

Do you mean close the 3ds? What is "disconnect" during a hunt mean.

>>169034312
It's probably the wrong color as well.

whats the max number for cat carts you can have?

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What monster in Gen has the all around best looking weapon set and why is it this motherfucker?

>>169035253
>GLOWING NEON BLUE
Are you Senior Designer for WoW and Adventurequest?

>>169035253
Silverwind weapons look the best

I want to give Yukumo Chief a big, wet, adult kiss!

>>169035004
if you mean the item multiplying feature, 3

if you mean fainting in a hunt, prowlers cart the same way hunters do once they drop to 0hp and have no more acorns left. you get 2 acorns with every 'life', unless you use the last stand skill, in which case you don't have any acorns

>>169035835
I mean the first thing. thank you.

what do you use them for? I mainly use them for honey but whats the best use for making money?

>Only found out today that you can transfer save data (quests, armor, etc) from X to XX
>You get one chance to change gender/appearance when you do it

/mhg/, I've always played as a guy, but I gotta admit the female armors are alluring.
When the game comes out, should I go full faggot and switch to a female model so I can wear the pretty dresses?

>>169035253
All tigrex weapons look like shit

>>169036181
>one chance
As long as you have a way to backup your save, you can do it as many times as you want.

>>169031258
I know, embarrassing how they ripped off Adept GS's counter from Gen and Zenith Hammer's charge attack

>>169036181
Males players aren't allowed to play female.

>>169019470
It is fast and the magazine said it has bonus stagger/ part damage like Energy Blade.
It cannot be too bad.

So LS is shit in 4U. What are my alternatives if I want a similar playstyle? DS or IG?

>>169037029
IG. It does everything better.

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>>169037029
ig the best weapon in 4u

>>169037029
IG

>>169037029
How about you play the better game instead.

>>169036734
>that landing lag
that alone tells me how bad this shit is going to be. It's nice how the animation is weighted and the hunter lands on all fours but you are delusional to think they will recover fast enough to even pull off a level 3 when grounded

>>169037097
>>169037107
>>169037171
Early IG's seem pretty shit though, hardly any choice. I can make the Nerscylla one though, how far will it take me?

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>>169022269
>wanted to make a 10 phial energy blade+ultra burst spam gimmick set with load up, razor sharp, composed, and artillery novice/trump card with deviant weapon
>the only parts that make this set possible are astral, rajang, and furious rajang
>all of those look like complete shit on a male__

Okay then, guess I won't be ever using that.

>>169037187
Other offensive HAs have bigger startup and more ending lag and still get used even at TA levels.

>>169037187
I never said it is gonna be the next Enraged Guard.

Are the last few single player huntathons in Gen like psuedo G rank or something?

Like, I've tried them all with multiple weapons, and every time I get my shit wrecked by the first monster AND it takes too long to kill them.

Like, even going hammer and wailing on the Rathalos like I usually do, it seems way harder than normal to down it.
Are those last 3 or so quests meant to be for once you have max level armor and weapons?

>>169036085
i just use them for supplies i need. if you do plenty of hbg or raw lbg gunning, the 3 carts won't be enough to keep you stocked on ammo combines

you can get money easily by doing charm runs or selling excess parts so i never really bothered with running the carts for money

you should buy supplies directly from the trader instead of multiplying them, if it's available for sale. for example, you can buy energy drinks, hunter's drinks, immunizers, bomb casings and nets instead of multiplying for their ingredients. the reason is that wycademy points are given out so freely that it's nearly impossible to run out of them. for reference, i buy all my supplies whenever possible, including 4 stacks of hunter's drinks, and i've bough enough special permits to complete all my deviant quests to level 10. i am currently sitting at 2.2 million wycademy points

so yeah, just go crazy on spending wycademy points because they might as well be infinite

So Capcom have come out and said MH5 isnt going to have these shitty arts right? Right guys? its not coming into 5, right?

>>169032010
People who can't respond to a simple 'Hi' with a greeting, even a default chat one, are just as bad

>>169037187
A flash bomb can accomplish the same thing this art does unless you're fighting blind ass gore or something, so yeah not too useful. Lion's maw will probably have higher tiers to unlock too and the damage is going to get ridiculous with that. I might use this moonbreak occasionally on easy hunts just because it looks fun to hit something out of the air with it though. Do we know how much damage it does and how much charge it needs yet?

>yfw they patch out all the easy charm farming exploits in XX and you're back to 3-4 charms per run
>and it still takes 1000+ charms to get something usable

>>169038131
thank you for the detailed reply

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>>169036181
Don't say you weren't warned.

>>169038448
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>>169038448
Hack them in you bitchy cuckold.

>>169038439
Offensive HAs with no further utility at level 3 generally have motion values somewhere between 150 and 250, with the hardest hitting one in the game being Trance Slash at about 400.

>>169037403

>tfw I had lost a file with an Artillery 10 charm when I didnt even play gunlance now Im regretting it because of the possibilities

>>169038573
Eh, I gotta admit as a purely solo experience the game is kinda lacking.
It's nice for zoning out with certain grinds, but the game's real worth comes from playing it with friends or online, even with the shitty random shitheads you sometimes wind up with.

Actually hunting with a group in person or on some live chat is by far the best way to play.

>>169031258
>MHO has better animations than mainline and when it's anime it does it right instead of being QUALITY as fuck
>>>/a year ago/

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>>169038448
What problem?

>>169038292
You know deep down that arts and styles are here to stay.

>>169038918
In a way I agree this is coming from someone who pretty much solo all gen. Checked marked everything all I got left is dlc and deviants left over.

>>169038087
I did Out of the Frying Pan with HR4 gunner gear and a HBG. Others I did shortly after unlocking my HR. Golden Pair is alright, Field's a Stage is a complete joke, Wrath of Rath is the cancer. They're just High Rank monsters though, their stats conform to how you'd fare doing HR7 quests solo.

>>169039159
b-but water combat went away, maybe these arts will go too

>>169038448
you're going to want to farm G rank charms anyways so what matters the most is whether or not there's a new method for getting a lot of those, maybe melding will be useful again

>>169038292
I'd honestly be down with arts if they just flush the absolutes. They're a blight upon the meta.

>>169036181
You can change gender in the swap from X to XX iirc, because it was specifically mentioned that if you do gender-specific armours get automatically sold.

That said, the best armours are female but male hunters have less shitty looking armours overall, and chances are you're gonna be looking for a mixed set that looks tolerable more often than a fullset that looks good because of how skills work especially in g rank. But also 4U had uka uka u for instance that was excellent for most endgame monsters with most weapons and looked incredible on female hunters but atrocious on male hunters, may be something similar in gentoo.

remove styles
remove arts
remove all weapons except the original 6 from MH1
revert those weapons to their simpler 2nd gen movesets
Focus on great new monsters, areas, QoL, quality village and amazing online content instead of gimmicks
Making MH5 a true return to form would not be hard at all

>>169038918
You sound like a normie. You should leave.

Stahlrect or La loi? I'd assume La loi is better if I have at least WE + Crit Eye1, right?

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>>169039216
here to stay
here to stay
here to stay

>>169039443
t. Greatsword

>>169038918
>Actually hunting with a group in person or on some live chat is by far the best way to play.
spoken like the true discord faggot that you are.

>>169039443
>stopping at second gen
>>169039557
this

>>169039557
>t. greatsword
>when they have at least 1 good art
you mean t. hunting horn

>>169039443
sounds boring af tbqh
I already played MHF1 no thanks

>>169039443
MH doesnt need to be returned to MH1, it just needs to focus on what makes it good; satisfying weapons against challenging monsters.

They keep putting in all this other shit like styles/arts which trivializes the game and makes the combat less satisfying.

They seriously need to fix armor as well, you should be able to upgrade any armor to G rank tier. God damn do G rank armors look shit in comparison to LR/HR.

>>169038789
Man, I'd love to have an artillery+10 with 3 slots. The best one I have is +4 with 3 slots. I fucked up and sold a sense-10 charm that I could have slapped on a dreadking hammer set to get taunt too.

Can you even unlock a way to buy/farm honey in MHX?

Is Exhaust damage useless on elder dragons?

>>169039920
nigga have palicoes trade for it

>>169039198

Not him but I could never beat fry pan with DB or GL, Im definitely a shitter.

>>169039920
Keep playing the game

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>>169039748
I agree that you should be able to at least choose which of the skins that exist for one piece of armour that piece uses but
>God damn do G rank armors look shit in comparison to LR/HR.
pic related, it's where your opinion belongs

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>>169039534

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>>169039748
>trivializes the game and makes the combat less satisfying


>Guild Style+No arts
enjoy grandpa mode grandpa
they left that old shit in there for people like you

>>169040080
Nearly all the G rank armors look like total trash. They are all overdeveloped "WE NEED BIGGER SHOULDERS AND SPIKES" crap

Take any group of random LR/HR armors and compare it to any random group of G rank and the LR/HR will always look better.

>>169039748
The only thing about styles and arts that trivializes anything is absolute evasion/readiness and adept DB, that shit needs to go
(Adept DB got nerfed, Absolute Evasion is untouched, we'll see about readiness so 1/3 so far)
What trivializes Gen is the stupidly large defense gain from upgrading armor so nothing hurts you until the endgame

>>169040123
>Play online
>its ruined because everyone is using OP modes and the hunts are worthlessly easy
Great design, 10/10

>>169040123
>if you don't like talisman RNG just don't use talismans
>if you don't like switchaxe just don't use it or play online
>if you don't like ballfuck's design just stay in g1 and don't do your urgent

>>169040336
Cringe
The hunts are easy because it's HR

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>>169039393
Eh, if I were to go female I'd definitely be in it to be a Fashion Hunter and not be as big on stats.
Of course, I'd keep some mix sets for when I want to get my checkmarks down.

>>169039516
I got into the game during my last couple years at college, so I was able to play it with some other lonely faggots in the college game club.
Fucking sitting in a college lounge, eating some korean delivery, and farming god damn Raths with a couple bros is the absolute PEAK of monster hunter really.

>>169040170
>Nearly all the G rank armors look like total trash. They are all overdeveloped "WE NEED BIGGER SHOULDERS AND SPIKES" crap
Oh, you play male. Yeah you have a point then. Female armours are almost always better looking in G rank though, and female armours look better than male armours so if you really valued aesthetics over some kind of personal insecurity you'd just play a girl.

>>169040038
>GL
Duh
>DB
Just make the Monarch/Kirin Bolts my dude. Everything in that quest gets fried by them, and you can have the feather. You shouldn't even get touched with Adept DBs, smoke bombs and the fence.

>>169040445
The HR hunts in 3U and 4U were challenging enough, the whole of X is a fucking joke in comparison.

This is what happens when people cry that 4U was too hard, you ruined the whole of MH.

>>169038778
I wouldn't mind it having lower end damage if it has a small tier charge time. I'd probably use it over lion's maw then because I'm too greedy with lion's maw. I wait to use it when I have the perfect chance for a level 3 coming up to get the most out of it and all the time I spent running around not using it could have been charging up another lion's maw. I use it maybe twice each hunt because I'm too stingy with it and don't want to waste it. If I used it as often as possible I'd be getting a lot more mileage out of it but I just can't break that stingy behavior. With a small charge time direct attack only art I could just pop that off at every opportunity. I never use the medium or large charge attack arts just because you don't get to use them super often. Only the buff ones.

>>169040545
Yeah no, female or male G rank armor is trash. Im sorry you have such shit taste that you like anime tier faggotry.

>>169040543
>hey, its your uberdriver, i'm outside

>>169039443
Arts are great. Just remove dodge2win (and dodge2win arts)
Styles could be combined, like instead of having 6, just have 3.

>>169040617
>You

Cringe, it was the nips complaining that it was too hard.

It wasn't hard, the GQs and shit were MMO tier faggotry. 3U had perfect endgame.

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>>169040617
Good thing that bitching about Gen was loud enough that Kojima's been promising XX to be a more challenging experience.
They even designed Devil Blos with being as hard as possible while still being beatable.

>>169040872
>Kojima's been promising XX to be a more challenging experience.
where?

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>>169040385
>>169040336
if you don't like online play by yourself granpda
maybe you can go on some old neogaf forum and make a grandpa guild for grandpa guildstylers!

you're a shitter if you need op-crutch-talisman and can't play with what you find, you're a shitter if you can't play solo your urgents without optimal 4-man teams sorry bro!

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>>169040779
>having bad opinions in the current year

oh wait
>anime tier faggotry.
>GR female armour but not all male armour
3/8 mediocre b8 m8

>>169040868
GQs were hard because they were stressing. It's tough playing when one small mistake can get you carted outright, and the amount of health on those 140 monsters meant there were a lot of chances for mistakes.

>>169040802
Absolute Evasion and a nerfed Readiness are going to be necessary for Guild/Striker/Alchemy to keep up in G rank or for aerial to survive at all.

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>>169040872
>roar combos
>usual tremor bullshit
>absurd damage on extremely fast attacks

>devil blos will be trivialized by using some armor skills and one of two styles that allow you to avoid damage for free
>while everyone else will get curbstomped

Yeah, real ~challenging~ having to spend an hour putting together a set with ear plugs and tremor res.

>>169040872
Gear 2nd Blos looks like a mistake. Throwing AoEs on Astalos animations instead of making a proper movepool for it. If they wanted to do it proper the steam attacks should act like Crimson Fatalis's heatwaves

Can someone run me down if BOGmazios will be in XX?

>>169040868
>3U had perfect endgame

>make lucent weapons for everything
>then put them in the box because 3U is dominated by guns and melee is worthless
>grind four point formation for HR or something because you literally have nothing else to do
amazing endgame that

>>169040579

So with Silver Sol and Kirin blades I should be good?

>>169040038
I beat frying pan with GL on HR6. Using Zin's GL. It was a close fight, only 1 minute left till the quest over.

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>>169041094
>everyone needs crutches just like me

>>169038301
I wish we have voice chat. There are always some pieces of shit you run into with having voice but there are good ones too. I imagine a lot of people just can't be bothered to do any typing on the shitty 3DS keyboard and with the character limits so they just rattle off their presets or don't communicate at all.

>>169041129
Adept will leave you vulnerable during your counterattack and Brave doesn't negate damage, it just reduces it.

how do I start farming hellblade glavenus?
I have to use the the level 1 permit and then if I defeat him I get the level 2 permit?

>>169041320

I recall at least I used silver sol and Rajang GL.

And thanks for the suggestions.

>>169040579

>>169041254

Only Lucent SA was amazing, everything else was ok or mediocre.

Cringe off nigger. Its better than grinding Double monkeys over and over.

XX will have good endgame, I can feel it. Deviants are better than GQs.

>>169039920
just save edit the honey in, lol

>>169040872
source: your anus

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>>169039531
pureezu rezupondo

>>169041625
>Only Lucent SA was amazing, everything else was ok or mediocre.
You know, it's funny how clueless everyone was about what was actually good in 3U. These days everyone follows japanese TA wikis religiously.
The LS, Hammer, DB, SnS and HBG were all top class.

>>169041957
Though, granted, the variety wasn't that bad given that 3U also had Brachydios, Alatreon and Abyssal weapons.

>>169038573
Dark Souls wins agen

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>>169039531
>>169041891
The raw of the Shaggy LS is far too low to be redeemable. It doesn't have enough dragon to compensate for having low raw and ALSO not having any considerable amount of natural white.

My cast goes to Stahlrect, simply because you only lose 6 dragon, 20% affinity, and a sliver of white for a huge 30 raw.

There are other weapons that do what Shagaru weapons try to do way better.
>Low raw, absurdly high dragon
Ancient/Artifact weapons
>Natural White, low raw, high dragon
Alatreon
>Natural white, low raw, high affinity
Nargacuga

Shagaru weapons just sit on a middle ground that is neither useful nor worthwhile.

Use whatever you like though. I'm sure there's a way to make La Loi work with some crazy CE+3 crit boost set.At that point you might as well use a Narga weapon though.

>>169042438
>agen
I bet you play dark souls

>>169041598
You should be able to do it if you already have high end highrank gears. Just be careful and don't rush. Also bring combines for farcaster/max potion/ancient potions. Utilizes trap/ledges/foods.

>Fight rajang with lance for the first time
>Tremors up the ass that mess with counters
Is this when I have to man up and learn to evade lance?

>>169043140
This is when you learn how to GS

>>169039748
Why do you all so grossly exaggerate the strength of arts and styles? You act like popping off one art is enough to cleave off half of a monster's health and shit like this simply is not true. And while adept dodge does have overly generous timing there are some moves that will punish it so it doesn't make you totally immortal. The real problem making Gen "too easy" is the jacked up defense stats on the armor pieces. Some armor sets reach almost 700 defense. That's in the neighborhood of 4U endgame G rank defense. And even with that there is shit like hyper silver rathalos and hyper deviljho that can almost one shot someone with that much defense. Probably could one shot anyone using a mixed set with defense below 600. And before you meme about never getting hit in the first place if you're that good then how are any of the games ever challenging at all? What fits your idea of challenge? Bloated health pools that turn fights into endurance matches? We've got that with the hypers. Unending rages like we had in 4U? Apex? Shitty hitboxes? What the fuck do you want?

>>169043140
Or gem in the five slot skill called tremor res

>>169040545
>Playing female
That guy is a faggot, but you also are a faggot too, and the G-Rank male armors look great, fuck off.

>>169043261
Clunky slow weapons and fast monsters, so you have to play with perfect positioning.

>>169042765
Yeah, thanks. I just found a damage calculator after I posted.
http://minyoung.ch/calculatingpalicox/
Dunno how legit it is, but turns out Stahlrect is indeed better than La loi even if I have crit+2.

I considered the other weapons at first, but I don't really like the design, so the choice were just stahlrect and la loi. This is just for casual hunting, anyway. If I want max damage, I'd use the meme set.

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>>169043563
>fashion hunting
I can respect that. I'm not a fan of the La Loi design, but Stalrecht is pretty nifty.

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>>169043218
>everyone is a scrub like you

>>169043457
>Clunky slow weapons
>perfect positioning aka right on top of monster with lvl 2 & 3 charges

>"I only use greatsword" the post

Room up: 35-0341-4871-0661

>>169043457
None of the weapons are any faster than they were in the last three games we got. You just got some new moves to use along with what you already had.

>>169043797
>discord room
inb4 already full.

>>169043932
>None of the weapons are any faster than they were in the last three games we got
Yes, they've been too fast for a while.

>>169039198
Actually, I recently started learning Adept LBG and was kinda wondering, how do gunners usually do Huntathons?

Like, do you just use up all your ammo freely on the first monsters, or do you actually ration out and save shit for the whole fight?
It feels like you'd be left with the infinite normal shots by 5th monster regardless.

>>169044031
What is the discord? The one in the pastebin never has any monster hunter related discussion and the only thing they talk about are speedrunners like Cosmo and Chibi so I don't think it's the right one.

How bad does it feel to be Capcom launching an MH game 2 weeks after the new Legend of Zelda and a new handheld console.

We may get a localization afterall if the jap release is getting overshadowed this hard

>>169043140
>>169043320
I play Guard GL usually (yeah, I know the memes, don't care cause it's fun to blow shit up) and I specifically built a set called "Fuck Rajang" once that was like pure thunder res, tremor res and Guard Up or something like that cause the fuckers messed me up so bad.

Became a rajang killing machine after that. Nigga couldn't even laser me.

>>169044918
>Guard Up
IIRC rajang has nothing that requires guard up, you can guard even the beam with a regular guard. On the other hand guard+1/2 is useful for those heavy attacks.

But yeah something people often fail to realise is that if his tremors and oversized hitboxes can't do much to you rajang dies insanely easily, his entire body is a raw weakspot and he has low health. It's why bow fucks him up so bad.

>>169044768
this is why you stay away from that trash

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What kind of goals do you guys set for yourselves while playing?

I had a roommate once that I got into MH3U and he chose to play a girl and insisted on trying to get a full set of every armor.
I told him that was insane but he stuck to it anyways, even going into 4U last I heard from him.

Anyone here ever actually accomplish shit like that?

>>169044686
Gunners are really gimped in hunt-a-thons with the limited ammo. Especially elemental bows or LBG's if the monsters have varying weaknesses. Combo pro and ammo saver would definitely help if you're going it solo because you'll need all the ammo you can get. I'd really suggest just using a blademaster weapon on hunts with more than 3 monsters if you're playing alone. It can probably be done with a gunner weapon but they're just really not suited for that sort of thing. If you're playing online with a full group you can get through them fine with combines and using your internal shots.

>>169044686
Take the materials and combine ammo on the spot. You can use the art Mass Combiner if you want to get the most out of it or you can also just bring the book of combos.

The problem comes when you have guns dependent on internal or elemental shots, those you usually don't take to huntathons.

>>169045103
Rajang is extremely fair
Literally just don't over commit when directly in-front of him
>over-sized hit boxes
I'm sure you're talking about his 7 hit punch combo, and you're also wrong

>>169043457
That kind of gameplay was designed with shitty, predictable monster AI in mind.
Now it's about adapting to whatever stupidity the monster decides to try.

>>169045161
Solo, keyrush, no grinding for equips and up until the last boss.

>>169045161
Lately, Ive been trying to get gud at CB against Dreadking. One of my most recent goals were to try to sub 15 it with Bow and CB, which I've come close to doing with the former after a number of runs.

The latter's proven to be super annoying, because I can rarely ever AED him after he drops his rock nova since he refuses to do his *flies around u* maneuver, and when he does, I miss somehow

I'm also trying to get a better handle of LS and DBs for the sake of the experience and hoping to optimize my hunts with them. Probably wont be speedrunner tier but I'm trying to be at least competent.

>>169045161
I knew someone that tried doing the same thing in 3U, starting in low rank. Unsurprisingly he lost interest in the game for a while after deciding to do that.

I just try to solo everything before doing it online currently. Exception for five-monster quests because I really don't like shit that just drags on forever or actually having to think about resources. I've also never soloed alatreon, I did it online in a turns room before I ever got the quest and I'm not really interested in the fight or the gear.

>>169045258
About half of his physical moves are slightly oversized horizontally and most are massively oversized vertically. The latter really threw me off when I got to him in 4U, because I was maining IG and had gotten in the habit of dodging monsters by jumping over them. Almost all of his attacks have hitboxes several times taller than his model. You can still aerial dodge them by using the pheremone shot so you stop before you're actually over his model.

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>>169045161
Here's a goal set I made in 4u 1k pluse hours into that character.

>>169045258
Why can his punches hit you when you're standing behind him then

>>169044686
Bring all the even semi-relevant ammo your gun can use, and the most combines for the ammo your gun is good with as possible.
Use your most inconsequential shots on the first or easiest monster, save the strong ammo for the monsters they are strongest against.
Ammo Saver is highly recommended.
Prioritize hitting the weakest hitzones, even if you need to waste a bit of time letting the monster position properly. You want the most damage you can squeeze out of every bullet.
Above all, don't get hit.

As an example with OotFP, I used the Cirrus Blaster, and all my Water and Water Pierce shots on Jho, since it's alone and has a shitton of HP, even though it doesn't take much water damage, and after that I used all the Normal 2s on it and then a bit of Pierce 3s.
Once Narga and Tigrex showed up, while covered by smoke, I focused Tigrex as hard as I could with Pierce shots, and even though I failed to keep it up I managed to kill it without that much hassle since Narga can't really sneak up on you. Once Tig was down I used the ammo I still had left on Narga. I was down to a handful of Pierce 1s and a little over two minutes of quest time to spare, but I did it without carting once.

>>169045702
Um the fluffy tip of his very thin tail brushes the air where your armour would be if you were wearing female rathian armour which is literally identical to his fists hitting you, retard.........

>>169045258
if he is talking about his rocks then he ain't wrong. The rocks have horrible hitboxes on them but yes, the punches have always been precise

>>169045103
I dont think you can guard the beam with the regular guard, just his other projectiles. Which makes me wonder why you cant with Khezu.

>>169045161
I try to get every final weapon for whatever I main even for garage weapons I know I will never use.

>>169045921
>Which makes me wonder why you cant with Khezu.
Nothing is consistent, probably because different people are responsible for the coding for different monsters or something. You need guard up to block gravios's fire cloud but you don't need it to block uragaan's attack that is exactly the same, for instance. At least with khezu its projectiles travel along the ground so you could reason that it's because they go under your shield while rajang is shooting a blob of electricity through the air.

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>>169045937
Life sure is suffering for collectors.

>>169045258
The side to side jumps are really dodgy compared to FU and especially the final pounce has that bizarre jitter to it where Rajang shifts to one side a bit in the middle of the animation
And the backwards jump will hit you as long as one of his arms lightly brushes against you

>>169045702
Made it an habit to dodge right under his legs whenever he tried to point blank punch rush me in 4U.
No idea what you're talking about.

>>169045657
Seeing hellruin reminded me of how disgustingly good star knight was. I had sharpness+1, challenger+2, rodeo god, steady hand, weakness exploit, and bombardier on it with hellruin. It was so common to see everyone in a group using it that I got sick of seeing it. Star knight in Gen has grinder, vault, and wide range. Kek. It's a high rank version but it's skills are nothing at all like what it used to have.

>>169046469
Well I'm sure you're thrilled to know that Hellruin is coming back in XX.

>>169046696
So crimson fatalis is confirmed or are we just getting a material trade system again?

room up o--

I need a quick rundown on hellblade glavenus.

how can I evade his attacks?

So, all of you fellow cool dude SnS main are dropping Round Force II for Chaos Oil and keeping Shoryugeki,
right?

You aren't going to say you really need TWO free evade HA that badly,
right?

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>>169046972
All three Fatalises are back, along with Raging Brachy, Chaos Gore and Rusty Kush.

>>169047112
Step 1. adept anything
2. win

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>>169047201
>he doesn't equip absolute evasion, absolute readiness, and round force 3, mash the X combo, and run to a different zone when the monster targets him online

>>169047343
More event quest images have been found? because rust wasn't in the first two batches

>>169047201
>not dropping readiness
>when it's a g rank game and we'll have an opening for a five-slotter on any set we make, and no five-slotter can really hold a flame to sharpener
>and it's sns
come on dude

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>>169047112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmtNKkrgt8

>>169047752
Make it Round Force IV and we've got a deal

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>>169047583
Pretty sure it's the third one in the first row, it's even in the map where Rusty was in the 2nd gen games.

>>169047752
>no five-slotter can really hold a flame to sharpener
>what is mushromancer

>>169047845
>Round Force III sends allies up in the air
>Round Force IV has dragon windpress effect on allies

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>>169047876
that isn't rust. that is a normal daora. If the color wasn't a dead giveaway then the wing shape being completely incorrect is

>>169045657
I can make a set with those skills on that weapon (or any weapon, actually) insanely easily (already have the parts for it in fact) and marginally more /fa/, but I do have a +4 edgemaster +3 guts O-- tali working with me there. With that weapon I could also have rodeo god instead of mounting master. Shame there's almost no escaping the divine ire obi.

>>169048008
>he doesn't have 999 Mega Dash Juice

>>169048008
>ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau

>>169048008
>round force 5 does the same crumple effect of getting hit by deviljhos forward rush attack to "help" your allies with the lengthy invulnerability of being downed

>>169047824
WHAT IS THIS GUY DOING

HWAT THE FUGGGG

>>169047931
A five-slotter that can only hold a flame to sharpener on lance (as far as weapons that use sharpener go) and only in a game where dash extracts aren't given to you for free from half the quests (which I suspect XX won't be)?

what does brave style do

my attention span is too short for these 20 minute dissertations people keep posting on youtube and i miss when text faqs were relevant

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>>169048151
Shitpost goes here
>>169047931

>>169047824
and how do I block his tail swing with my switch axe???

>>169036181
Don't do it, you will make a shitload of useless sets and random armor parts for the sake of looking pretty/slutty, and if you're anything like me you will also go for "just enough" mixed sets because the "full autism minmax clown set with 7 of the most useful skills at once" that you got from the experts on 2chan is an ungodly mix of the 5 ugliest armors in the game.

>>169048316
Press the sheath button to slow down time (for you, not the monster) and then build up a meter that, once full, gives you your normal moveset, but like 10% cooler
Note: It is NOT for blocking things like some gaylords say

>>169047824
Born in a world of strife!

>>169048316
I don't know. monhun is getting too convoluted. I'm just going to stick with adept and guild.

>>169047824
Didn't know efenbaum such a fucking bigot.

>>169048540
>It is NOT for blocking things like some gaylords say
But it is.

>>169043797
Where'd you go?

>>169048328
It's not gay if it's a cloaca.

>>169048316
You have two modes: normal and brave. You start in normal and have to build up a gauge to get to brave.
When your weapon is drawn, sheathing is replaced by the brave stance. You put yourself in a defensive position that will auto evade if it's hit (still take a bit of damage), or sheathe after a couple seconds. If you attack while in this stance, you will do special attacks that fill the gauge by a lot.
In normal mode you have a gimped moveset. Most often the key feature of the weapon is absent, and made into a brave stance attack.
In brave mode you have an amazing moveset. Very mobile, with added guard points and/or demon dashes even on weapons other than CB and DB, and crazy good attacks.

>>169048867
About to go out, sorry I didn't stay long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Z1TWGXiYY
>Frontier areas get new music as you rank up
Could frontier BTFO mainline music any harder? is it even possible?

I haven't played the game since 4U, so be honest with me /mhg/, are the new things in MHX an improvement?

I'm hesitant about all the new fancy shit because it seems so superfluous for a Monster Hunter game. I liked 4U just as much as FU, the mobility never bothered me, just the actual fighting mechanics. I'll probably pick up MHXX when it comes out, but I want monster hunter, not Devil May Cry.

>>169049074
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0TSFIOH2s

>>169049161
You can literally
not use
any of it

No, the game is not balanced around it

>>169049074
Except some of the new themes are trash compared to the default ones.

ray/lolo's theme shits on the other two

>>169049074
Zenith species have different music depending on difficulty. I guess you can compare it to deviants having only one music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP_sBEByfs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njEpr32-ifM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmrAA8mRGgY

>>169049238
>this theme was wasted on a 1 to 1 Lagiacrus clone
>b-b-ut it's amatsu!
Sure thing, Amatsu down to the bone. Just like the part where it's signature attack is Lagiacrus's discharge

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>>169049238
>Each of Shantien's 4 themes reference different parts of Frontier's main theme

>>169049074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri3ryC1mRpI

good taste

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>room master had to make an excuse to stop playing because I was so bad at MH
s-sorry guys

>>169048617
Against the odds!

>>169048770
Who?

>>169049074
Where can I download the full soundtrack?

>>169049161
As it happens, it's mostly insubstantial glitter. The flashiest arts are severely worse than the quick efficient ones, and the dominant style is the one that gives you an FU-like moveset in exchange for more atk and more art slots.
The only shame is that the reason most arts suck is that they can't compare with the two that are just an evasion with a fuckbillion iframes that can skip the cooldown of most attacks on any weapon. They have severely damaged the meta and are part of the reason the skill ceiling in Gen is the lowest since P3rd.

>>169048316
http://pastebin.com/ijDGZMaG

REMOVE SHARPNESS +2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjCwAJHL-84
>frontier has the only actually fitting fatalis theme

this track makes me think "oh fuck, i'm fighting one of the dragons responsible for destroying an entire civilization" and not "oh fuck, i'm fighting one of the dragons responsible for destroying an entire civilization, but why is rathalos' theme playing?"

>>169049512
frontier just has off brand versions of mainline monsters because the players wanted monsters like those and they didn't want to steal them outright.
abiorugu and hyujikiki are good examples
i still prefer shantien to amatsu because it flies lower.

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>>169049074
>>169049629
Not even best HR100 theme. Get better taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p6qr0Aik4

>>169049727
The 2nd Anniversary one is the pastebin. But you should just look for the 2012 Anniversary one.

>>169050380
meant to also reply to >>169049074

>>169049045
Don't sweat it! We capped the Teo np.

>>169050341
Reminder that G-Rank will give us S+3

>>169050539
>We capped the Teo np
oh lord did he try trapping a teo

>>169049161
most of the "fancy shit" doesn't really matter. The styles are more about your move list and motion values than the specific mechanics of the style. Most of the best hunter arts are just passive buffs, evades, or utility skills.

What they do add is options and genuine variety. Even if you didn't like a certain weapon class before there's a good chance that a new style/arts combination can breathe new life into it.

Even a grumpy grandpa whining about kids these days and their hippity hop adept dual blades can just pick guild style and ignore hunter arts or use shitty ones or whatever the fuck they want.

Most of Gen's problems stem from it being a greatest hits mashup rather than a truly new installment, and that it only extends through high rank content. The game has a ton of options to explore, and it really appeals more to the idea of building sets and weapons for all the different classes rather than just sitting in your comfort zone and fussing over speedruns.

If there's any danger of things going too far, it might be SP mode in MHXX, but even that probably won't really be a big deal and mostly affects multiplayer which is inherently easier anyway.

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>>169049512
>1 to 1 Lagi Clone
>When Shanti has a moveset that make Lagi look like a toddler even at the weakest conquest level

Also the discharge being the signature attack is a pretty good joke.
That belongs to the launching combination attack.

>>169018976
so it's just shooting blood out from its wings?

>>169051159
Like a butterfly, yeah.

But no I'm pretty sure what that's showing is that it's like an anime-physics ramjet, where it constantly inhales through its mouth at an extreme rate, ignites the air in a chest organ and shoots it out of its wings to fly.

>>169051159
>>169051393
Actually looking closer it's marginally less anime physics, there's "air lines" going into its horn and those little pockets on its chest too. So it actually constantly inhales through its mouth, horn and chest assuming I'm interpreting the diagramme correctly.

>>169051393
I like their bullshit physics explanations
For example: amatsu's water beam is actually it combining hydrogen and oxygen on the spot.

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>Perpetual succ
Jesus.

Still kinda anime, but I believe it

>>169051618
Yeah, I like that one too. Where is it from? I've seen the picture but couldn't find it in illustrations 2.

>>169051159
Inhales air, combust in engine heart and shoot exhaust out the wings. This has been said since the reveal

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>>169051686
I assume wrong thread, but now I'm curious as to what the original context for this was.

>>169051686
Can you imagine being able to inhale constantly? How refreshing that would feel? Let alone being able to exhale violently out of your hands to run around like an autistic ten year old sonic fan except fast.

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>>169051843
see >>169018976
>>169051393
>>169051527

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>>169051847
That sounds fun.

Room up bros, I posted on discord first but no one wanted to join.

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>>169018976
how does it not cut itself when turning it's wings into blades? That is sliding right on the webbing

>>169041309
for kirin blades make a set that capitalizes on thunder attack

>>169024678
The exhausts are not its fingertips, but its knuckles. The fingers fold backward over the palm and end in pointed barbs at about the base of the hand.
When it does that attack, it's simply unfolding its hand.

>>169052294
you made you`re line`s to humongous re*ard,,,,

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>>169018976
>>169051393
>>169051527
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's kinda like that.
The diagram above the 7 thing is talking about bird respiratory systems.
They have air sacs that allow the air to move in one direction through the whole system, entering through the mouth and leaving through the nose, such that birds can inhale while exhaling.
This lets them fly at high altitudes.

Captain Falcon here apparently has his system exhale out the wings instead of the mouth/nose.
Not sure if that'd really translate to infinite self succ though, it's more just that the air can come in through the mouth and come out through the jets, probably on fire like that one anon suggested.

>>169052893
>Not sure if that'd really translate to infinite self succ though
Nobody said it would, your fri*ked up mind inserted the non-christian word "self" in there.

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>>169053027
Yeah, sorry. Freudian slip there.

>>169052240
Does this cutie actually have a nickname yet?
Even just a codename like fucking Steve.

>>169053220
>jayjay the jet engine
Looks fine to me.

>>169053220
Japanese name is Barufuraku.
English name is probably Valfark.
And yes, he is quite the cutie.

>>169053220
Valfalk, its name in jap is barufaruku and is a portmanteau of valor and falcon. I suspect the english name will be valfalk or valfalcon, which both sound dumb (which is why I suspect the localisation team will leave them as-is, they only change bad names to even worse names like dinovaldo to glavenus and leave other bad names like zinogre alone when localising, it's good names that always get changed).

>>169053220
hol up why does azure have 2 mouths

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>>169053436
>>169053712
Eh, I guess Val could be a decent nickname.

Still not as fun as Steve, Shiggy, or "The Angry Pickle"

>>169053712
>implying they won't just name it Balrog

>>169054046
What about jetpack draggo?

>>169054009
>hes never fought azurelos
lol

>>169054009
It looks like two azure los places on top of each other

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>>169053220
I mean, who wouldn't want to suck their own dick?

Anyone else feel really bad for Astalos?
Absolutely amazing design in both looks and attacks but a complete pushover.

I hope his deviant version is actually a threat

>>169054448
>feeling bad for a monster
Shut up and kill them.

>>169054448
no one cares as long as he cucks bitchalos

>>169054448
>amazing design
the idea of an insect wyvern is great but those colors are kinda shit.

>>169054608
The colours are fine, the problem is that the bulk of its body is a formless mess of spikes. It does not look sleek or agile, it looks like a slightly disturbed thirteen year old's notebook scribbles (except green instead of red).