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Ben doesn't answer any real question and twitch chat asks stupid unportant shit edition.

> /hsg/ Tournament Information
25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
Sign-ups close in a few hours
EU Date: Feb. 24-26
EU Time: 2pm EST / 19:00 GMT
NA Date: Mar. 3-5
NA Time: 6pm EST / 23:00 GMT
Estimated time: 4 hours per day
Sign-up closed at: Feb. 20 - 11:59pm EST / Feb. 21 - 4:59 GMT
Format: Conquest, Bo5
Standard Set
Stream: twitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
Streamer Battletag: AxolotlAndy#1798

>NA Entry Form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWgLm4nNqzprlQVKZEKGYNLav4tRDpMz1QXqYNV6lTtwLcDQ/viewform

>EU entry form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeo-O3Z5cQJEjS56l8K5Dhq8m2GkydybKkeiBFCXuN0tNuTQQ/viewform

>Class submission
Once the banned cards are in you have until thursday to submit your classes + battletag to [email protected].

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://discord.gg/m8F3YeZ

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Free botting
http://www.hearthranger.com/forum/

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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>>168936743
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First for VERY fast thread moving at incredibly hihg speed
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>friends and family
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What the fuck is this guys problem with freeze mage and miracle rogue.

Freeze mage solely exists to punish specific metas like recently it could be used to counter zoo or midrange shaman. In the world where freeze mage becomes popular, control warrior waits to fuck it up.
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Holy shit half these ''''''''questions'''''''' are pr talk defending blizz, like fuck off
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Daily reminder that Ben Brode said that Freeze Mage and Miracle Rogue are the cancer killing HS.
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>20 years
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Azure T-rex

4 mana
3/3
Draw a card. Gains spell power +1 if you have a beast in play.

Calling it.

.
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>>169009916
what do you think the stats of a 1 drop will be by then? keep in mind we have 4/3 turn 1 without coin right now.
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>We give away free packs, guys! Promise

ONE free pack a week.
SIX free packs at the top of a new expansion.
Every so often, you get a quest for ONE free pack.

You fucking fraud.
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That donais guy sounds like he lost his soul long ago. Why is he working on a video game?
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>no heroics

jewing at rates previously thought impossible
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>we'll see over time
>we dont know yet
>time will tell
great cool
they literally have nothing new coming
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>>169009908
Stop playing combo decks right now.
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>>169009954
other version
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>>169009885
They tackled the big uncomfortable questions: whether they're gonna rotate more classic cards and the fact that the game will be getting more expensive with three xpacs a year. Sadly, the answer was a big fuck you for both.
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>>169009908
He's right about Freeze Mage.

>>169009885
Obvious PR move, nothing more. Even talking how they want HS to be a legitimate F2P game was nothing but empty words.
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>>169009684
EU Bans

Innervate - klandri
Southsea Deckhand - TheDarkRider
Evolve - /hsg/
Tunnel Trogg - Velka
Maelstrom Portal - SakuraFish
Shadow Word: Pain - /hsg/
Totem Golem - Sayonara
Brann Bronzebeard - Blue
Imp Gang Boss - TheCoolOneMC
Shaku, the Collector - dervis
Fandral Staghelm - SeiferLizard
Fireball - Myrak
Kazakus - ComputerEasy
Drakonid Operative - Mohzez
Leeroy Jenkins - Flibikazoah
Emperor Thaurissan - Falant
Reno Jackson - HappyFeet
Abyssal Enforcer - Piesank
Ragnaros the Firelord - Erakhe
C'Thun - BlueMun


NA Bans

Counterfeit Coin - derp
Angry Chicken - /hsg/
Innervate - Misenaive
Jade Idol - BotDeckLethl
N'Zoth's First Mate - UpdateGuy
Patches the Pirate - Ando
Small-Time Buccaneer - Ragnador
Spirit Claws - IcyColdWind
Frostbolt - /hsg/
Totem Golem - Feldtelefon
Brann Bronzebeard - DonCacturne
Ice Block - degesoka
Murloc Warleader - EU /hsg/
Questing Adventurer - Nurz
Jade Lightning - iSoveit
Kazakus - ryobi
Drakonid Operative - Randolph
Leeroy Jenkins - ZardozSpeaks
Aya Blackpaw - Reaver
Gadgetzan Auctioneer - Syndere
Reno Jackson - Alchius
Alexstrasza - ExperimentM
Anyfin Can Happen - Ary
C'Thun - BlueMun
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>>169010106

>tfw scrubs will never know the joy of the Heroic Naxx cardback
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the free pack quests start with the second expansion this year, not the first
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>>169010129
I'm probably going to go for this one here.
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>sitting waiting for stream to start
>someone posts about brode stuttering
>STREAM STARTED BUT TWITCH DIDN'T START PLAYING THE STREAM

HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN GOING FOR
FOR FUCK SAKE TWITCH
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Dumping crops

Sayonara
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>>169010223
I agree, it's cleaner

t. The first overlay guy
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>>169010290
you should post just post them on imgur or something
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>Discovering an aggro deck

Are you fucking serious? Especially for a weapon class? STB, Patches, no minions above 4 mana.
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>>169010073
it makes a lot of sense that the guy who made jade has no soul. what the fuck happened to giant timmy minions to close out the game? no, you just get fucking piles of stats on curve.
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>>169010290
yeah I just realized this would take a while
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>DECKS ARE CLOSER IN BALANCE TOGETHER THIS META THAN OTHERS METAS
- BRODE

you can't make this shit up
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guys aggro shaman is balanced you just don't understand how viable grimy goons are right now
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>>169010290
Fyi the res might be different for the newer overlay

>>169010129
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>>169010290
>>169010421
Lel here's the imgur: http://imgur.com/a/JevWH
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>reintroducing old content/packs

it's on our radar
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>>169010160
>shaman untouched
>warrior untouched
>pirates untouched
EU was a mistake
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>>169010406

>What the fuck happened to giant timmy minions to close out the game?

They were called the Old Gods, and they were pretty good. Problem is, they got no support in subsequent releases while aggro decks got everything heaped on them.
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>>169010462
That's true though. Remember undertaker ;^)
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>>169010462
Probably because it's literally a coinflip of drawing Reno or not.
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http://imgur.com/a/hYkdX

There we go
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>figure head
>constantly says uh

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>169010587
the dark rider's avatar is kawaii as fuck :3
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>>169010462
The game has never been more coinflippy. These guys have no idea what's going on in their game.
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>>169010640
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>>169010462
Theres 3 decks in the game right now.
>pirate
>reno
>dragonpriest
nothing else matters, you just have different hero emotes as you play
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>The best combo tools are the ones that are unpredictable

You can't make this shit up.
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>>169010483
Is it?

Shieet
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>>169010507
>Deckhand, Tunnel Trogg, Maelstrom Portal, Leeroy Jenkins banned
>Shaman and Warrior are untouched

Anon please.
Not banning STB was a mistake, but it's obvious that those decks are suffering from bans.
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>>169010640
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>>169010714
he meant unplayable LOL
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>"We don't like combo decks killing you in one turn"
>"We'd rather watch you die over five turns instead! HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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>>169010714
did you see that djinni/confuse/divine spirit combo deck kripp was playing? looked hard as fuck but still miles worse than hitting face with pirates
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>>169010129
>>169010223
Fixed it
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>>169010714
That's the entire hearthstone model.
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>>169010483
It's about the same(+/- 10 pixels), if you put the crop below the overlay it should be good.
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what is ben doing to these designers
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>>169010850
DisguisedToast came up with that deck
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>>169010462
That's true, though. It's boring because there are several Renodecks and everyone runs pirates.
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>>169011006
probably explains why kripp was so terrible at it
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>>169011000

Tying them down and force-feeding them pizza.
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Is the Q&A live right now? Did anyone ask them about selling preconstructed decks? If not, can anyone ask them?
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>>169011006
*DisguisedToast stole that deck from reddit
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>>169011118
who did reddit steal it from?
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I just realized 477 is broken as shit not because of the scenario that you draw and play him on 4 but because you can do all kind of shit in a turn and drop a random ass 7/7 just because

You could potentially clear the board with lightning storm, kill something & summon a jade golem and drop a 7/7 all in the same turn
sure you're overloaded but that's retarded tempo

Playing it on turn 4 is basically gambling
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>>169010850
>>169011006
Pretty sure we had a variation of that deck when LoE came out.
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>>169011142
us
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>>169011142
/hsg/
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>>169011142
/svg/
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Why not ask for help to actually Hearthstone wizzards?
I mean Kripp and Toast could fix this game right away in a week, They don't play competitive so there would be no problems.
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>>169011194
>Deck based on interaction between potion of madness and djinni
>LOE
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How's this look?
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ALL THESE RETARDS ASKING QUESTIONS THEY'VE ANNOUNCED ALREADY SO THEY CAN REGURGITATE WHATS WRITTEN AGAIN
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>>169011350
bretty good
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>>169011000
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>>169011348
The same works with the 3 mana spell that steals a minion. And it's a Priest basic or classic card don't remember.
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>>169011348
>Shadow Madness
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>>169011387
Haha stories to tell your friends :^)
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>>169011348

>What is Shadow Madness
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>>169011350
Acceptable.

>>169011387
They confirmed your classic collection isn't worth shit unless you want to play wild.
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Looks nice.
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>rank 12
>one of the best players in the game
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>>169011387
It's not real questions anon.
That's the community slut making up questions that they can answer for the PR move.
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>>169011528
>>169011387
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Having you be unable to drop below rank 5 does nothing to solve problems in ranked play.

You get rank 5 literally by winning like 10 games in a row. 5 to legend can either be impossible or require an absurd amount of games depending on your skill or luck.
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That's it folks.
Control=Reno.
Good devs.
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2016: "We're introducing Wild so that people can mix and match new cards with the Classic set without Secret Paladin shitting on their fun"

2017: ".....well, we didn't say the ENTIRE Classic set! HAHAHAHAHA"
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>7 years later
>still dont know what rogue is supposed to do
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>rogue is a class we're still working on
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>can you tell us about Rogue class identity with combo and stealth nerf
>Yeah, we have some ideas for Rogue

So nothing. They don't even have cards. Just fucking ideas. Fantastic.
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>>169011829
If they didn't rotate sets, they'd have to power creep hard or have things get stale as shit; the game would die even faster.
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>>169011901
um like we're thinking about stuff and it's super interesting and I think you guys are gonna um enjoy
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>>169011186
Don't forget you can elemental destruction with a Thalnos or spell totem to wipe the board, drop 4 7/7 and a free 5/5 Thing From Below, which is always cheap or free since you can use floated mana for a hero power or play shit like mana tide or flame tongue during the preceding turns

So you can wipe a board and drop 12/12 in stats for 7-9 mana.
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>Rogues outsmart and outskill their opponents
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>ROGUE PLAYERS LOVE ROGUE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS PLAYING TRICKS AND OUTSMARTING YOUR OPPONENT, THAT'S A REALLY STRONG CLASS IDENTITY
- Mike Donais 'Principal Game Designer'
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>>169011901
>>169011918
>>169011924

C L E V E R

T R I C K S
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>>169011924
>clever tricks

what the fuck is this shit
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>tfw not smart enough to play auctioneer and get cards
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>>169011829
Can we just... not? They said set, and the set is still in standard. They are bring you the whole game for free and all you can do is complain.
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>>169011951
>turn 1 12/12 edwin
OUTSMARTED
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>>169011984
>>169011985
>21:44:24
>21:44:24
tricked-mind
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WHY CANT YOU FUCKS JUST MAKE CHANGES
WHY DO YOU THINKK AND DISCUSS AND DO NOTHING
FUCKING
MONGOLOID
FUCKS
FUCK
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>tfw CLEVER TRICKS and OUTSMARTED are gonna be dank memes

Thanks Donais, you did something right today.
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>>169012117
>roll a Taunt totem and skillfully draw Hex on my 3rd turn
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>small internal team doesnt know how to balance
>takes millions of players
>lifecoach was literally at blizz balance team and told them patches is a mistake and rekt everyones shit with pirate warrior when testing msog
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Tunnel Trogg is an 8/10
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>we can't predict

Holy shit my sides
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>Created by Swashburgler
>turn 3 14/14 edwin
>Leeroy+coldblood+coldblood+
>Created by Shaku
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So what did Ben say about wild packs?
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>PT servers makes the game stale

Maybe go next door and ask the WoW dev team how they've had a PTR for THIRTEEN FUCKING YEARS WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT.
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>>169012246
quality too high
6/10
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>>169012490
TRICKEY DICKEY
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>>169012490
clever tricked hard
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Rogue used to be the most skilled class in the game. Then they rotated oil and nerfed BF. Thank you Brode!
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>>169012510
To be fair WoW gets way more content than hearthstone.
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Are we gonna have a voting for meme tournament for the player with the memest decks

I know someone will just go full netdeck retard for that 25 shekels and thats not fun
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MADE TO BE BAD GOY
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>some players just want to have fun
WHERE??? EVEN CASUAL IS FULL OF NETDECKS
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>>169012629
Sure, I can host a poll for "community favorite".
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>Using Majordomo as an example

Majordomo Freeze Mage was a fucking terror in the pre-split ladder.
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>>169012629
desu I just stopped watching when there where meta decks on screen
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Move Majordomo to classic you hacks
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>>169012679
Actually you don't get it
The casual fun of hearthstone exists outside of playing the game
Trolden, Twitch streams...
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>>169012510
they print shit cards and they want people to have to pay to see the cards
ptr does have an impact on that, not having ptr gives them the biggest advantage in being able to push out shit people pay for without even knowing if its shit, poop or garbage this time
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>>169012765
also wailing spirit
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>BAD BASIC STAT CARDS ARE BEING PRINTED BECAUSE THEY SERVE A DIFFERENT ROLE
-Brode

Yeah as fucking backfillers you fucking jew
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By the sound of things they do far too much internal discussion than actually doing anything.

Is it really so hard to nerf a problem card or buff some underused stuff once a month when ranked resets?
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>>169012805
i have the cards, I want to play them with a win percentage over 5%
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>>169012705
will the decklists be shown on screen somehow or made as a preview so that we can get hype and gain insight in the memes that are prepared
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>>169012875
Johnny cards have existed before Hearthstone idiot
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Haha a nice open ended question for the ending of the stream haha what a coincidence :)
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>>169012984
I'll ask for screens of decklists once I communicate with the competitors during the tournament and will release them after the tournament.
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>>169012916
Then make a good deck
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>>169013000
this could be a good rouge card
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>If Reno were around forever, it would be too much

When you've sped the meta up to the point where not having/topdecking Reno on turn 6 is the end of the game, then the problem isn't with him, guys.
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>>169013000
Yeah I bet magic prints 80% garbage per sets too you memelord.
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>nerfing cards means dust refound
>dust refound means least purchased packs
They won't do that ever. Expect 1 or 2 two cards nerfed after 3 months. That's it.
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>>169012629
Klandri went full tryhard last time.
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>>169013094
i spent half the day trying to make goya work. it's not possible.
some players want to have fun is a bad argument when there's no mode in the game that let's you play against people with the same mindset
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>>169012705
I want there to be some kind of reward for this, like the top 2 meme deckers play each other for a second place prize which I would gladly provide

Please do not do this
>>169012984
I like being surprised by the memes
Maybe show them at the end of the tourney
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well that was a waste of an hour
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>>169013139
meant to >>169012894
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>>169012894
Thats what im thinking as well.
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>>169013254
that she's a fucking 4/3 is so fucking bad. make her a 5/5 for 6, damnit.
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>>169012894

I rather they nerf going into new content releases so each release really does have a unique meta
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>>169013279
>>169013279
Is it over

Someone give me the highlights
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>>169013254
Look at how many people are having fun playing domo right now you little shit.

These print exist to make Hearthstone FUN for people not intending to play in international tournaments.
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>>169013259
>I want there to be some kind of reward for this, like the top 2 meme deckers play each other for a second place prize which I would gladly provide

If you're up for getting your hands on another Blizzbucks gift card for the meme champ, go ahead and I'll get all the information where it needs to go.

>Please do not do this, I like being surprised by the memes
I do as well, so I'll certainly hold off on posting any decklists until after everything is said and done.
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>>169012246
>>169012145
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>>169013462
I don't think they said anything, kind of incredible really
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>>169013139
Not necessarily. Nerds give only dust for the nerfed card, while a nerf can kill a whole deck archetype, meaning you lose more cards but don't get the full dust back.

Rogue is basically dead with the next expansion and you get 80 dust back. Fantastic. 2 Prep? Useless when the class is unplayable.
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>>169013254
>some players want to have fun is a bad argument when there's no mode in the game that let's you play against people with the same mindset
Technically that'd be tavern brawl, but even then many people just use it to farm gold.

It's also pointless when the "fun" cards are just rificulously overpriced in terms of rarity.
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>>169013090
have you seen firebat casting NA vs CN though?
he had the decklists in a googledrive or something and just opened that up on screen in between/before matches and browsed them some and talked about what he saw as interesting, that was really cool
i dont know how the games are gonna play out right so at least knowing that a player is playing like X meme with Y meme combo will be fun to look out for and see if he can make it happen, browsing the deck with the viewer would prepare them even better for this. gets them more inside the game i think it can be fun that way
if the decklists are gonna be private and you want some sort of like snipe protecting i guess that would be ok, just a different angle of where you place value on
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Hey guys, I missed the stream. The game's gonna be fun now though, right?
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>>169013462

Combo decks are cancer
Public playtesting is impossible
Reno decks are literally the only control decks
If you lose to a Rogue, you've been outsmarted
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>155 posts
>36 posters

If you guys didnt shitpost and spam, this thread would be readable
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>>169013462
Nothing interesting at all was said or discussed.

They don't know what is happening in the future basically.
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>>169013483
>>169013259
>I want there to be some kind of reward for this, like the top 2 meme deckers play each other for a second place prize

This would greatly stir me to just whip up the most meme decks I can imagine. The only problem is, if I get knocked out in game 1 nobody will see what I came up with.
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>>169013462

>single player mode start with the second expansion this year
>will be harder than adventures, has cards tied to them
>no heroics
>considering bringing back rotated out stuff to sell temporarily
>don't want combos with 20+ burst
>they don't think jade will be a problem
>arena blog this week
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>>169013626
Such is the great meme-tryhard balance we all must achieve
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>>169013259
>>169013483
ok thats fine with me if you guys have envisioned it being played like that, i dont mind just thought it was something cool for downtime and getting into the games
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>>169013649
It will be harder because it has no cards tied to it you retard.
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>>169013649
>>considering bringing back rotated out stuff to sell temporarily
Looks like enough people dusted their old cards for this to finally happen

this should have never happened to begin with

>rotate cards
>people dust them
>new players waste dust crafting wild commons
>time to resell old content
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>>169013212
I don't think so
I brought murlock warlock, aggro freeze mage and aggro dragon warrior
all of those are aggro decks but aggro dragon warrior was practically unheard of back then, aggro freeze mage has never been anything but a meme even though it saw some play in karazhan and the murlock was a shitty homebrew murloc deck

these were still reasonably strong decks, all of them very aggressive and indeed did win me the tournament but it wasn't just tier 1 netdecks or netdecks at all really
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>>169013649
There are no cards tied to the single player mode. Card rewards, as in packs will probably happen, but not specific cards.
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>>169013462
Lot of internal discussions.
Things are going to happen in the future.
Coffee breaks.
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>>169013759

brode literally said it'll be harder because they had to make adventures easy since you had to pay money to play them, these will have cards tied to them
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>>169013868
>all of those are aggro decks
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>>169013895
No you mouthbreather go watch it again. He said it could be made harder because it wouldn't make specific cards inaccessible if you couldn't beat it.
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>>169013895
>they had to

So THIS is the state... of video games... whoa....
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>>169013895
so it'll be impossible without gvg cards? epic
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I actually drifted into sleep listening to this dreck.
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>>169013259
>At PAX last year
>Have goofy hearthstone mousepad
>Get it signed by trump, zalae, amnesiasc, amaz, etc.
>Give it away as a prize in tournament amongst my friends

If I still had it I 100% would have given it out as a meme prize in this tournament
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>>169014116
it would be unfair to literal retards if they were unlocked out. it's not like you buy expansions for the single player.
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>>169013868
THE CHAMP HAS SPOKEN
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>>169014027
He's not called "The Aggro King" for nothing.
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>>169014224
Actually, fuck it. I'm going this year, I could have the meme-winner request an item and I will buy one and get it signed
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>>169014959
Could I get you to punch Brode in the face if I win?
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>>169014959
Don't forget there are two tournaments, NA and EU.
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>>169010160
I like the NA banlist
my out of meta decks were unaffected
get ready kids. 1 week to go
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>>169014027
>not playing smart knowing that all the memesters will bring slow decks

Klandri is always one step ahead
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>>169015604

>not combining aggro with memes

I'll show you!
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>>169015705
But those were aggro meme decks
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>>169015509
Hearthstone itself isn't there, its usually some other company hosting a tournament. Last year it was Geico or some shit. Not making this up. The casters weren't even there, but the players were.

>>169015517
Yeah but mailing to EU takes thousands of shekels so it would just be money for them unless a yuroanon wants to make a meme prize somehow
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Is there an official date one when you have to craft the Hall of Fame Classic cards?
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>>169015802
>Ask friend if Blizz will have a presence at PAX this year
>"I'm not allowed to say"

!!!
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>>169010160
>mfw 3 of my 4 decks are not affected by the ban list
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Never have I seen a thread go from 100 mph to 0 that fast
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So what's the EU meta going to be like?
Jade druid and Pirate warrior is a given, but what else?
You shitters better not play these decks.
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>>169016408
is your friend zeriyah,
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>>169017350
is jade druid playable without innervate?
that cripples the auctioneer plays at least
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>>169017673
Druid isn't playable without innervate, period.
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>>169017350
I'm having a hard time deciding a lineup
I want to bring control but they banned everything that makes contorl viable and left aggro essentially untouched
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>>169017740
>He's never played egg druid
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When in april do new expansions usually hit? Trying to figure out how much gold I can save up until then.
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>>169017967
I'm bringing control warrior, doesn't really lose anything important.
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>>169017583
No, he sits near her though. Although he will soon be moving to the features team which is next to benny b
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>>169018173
are you implying you dont play egg druid with innervate? are you insane? It's the best druid class card, period.

I wouldn't say druid is unplayable without it, but every single druid deck is weaker without innervate.
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>>169018246
Should've started 2 months ago.
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Watch hunter sweep this tournament
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what to watch now that firebat is going offline? :(
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>>169018683
sweeps aren't possible in the conquest format
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>>169018776
chakki
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>>169018776
savjz
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So I hear they had a Q&A. What were the most important points?
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>>169018776
control is pretty comfy tbqh
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>>169019043
Rogue takes skill.
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>>169019043
clever tricks and getting outsmarted
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>>169019043
they don't have any meaningful changes to the economy or to fill the adventure gap planned at all
they are gonna try to cruise by and cuck everyone
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>>169019043
Combo should be inconsistent
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not even turn 6 reno AND taunts do anything anymore

this class needs to be deleted from the fucking game and every single person involved with desgining cards for it round up and shot

from the fucking game
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malchazar is so popular at low levels, jesus. every other game is a prince malchezarar deck
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>>169019043
only worthwhile thing they mentioned was an arena blog coming out next week talking about their plans for it. other than that, combo is getting cucked and rogue is going to be the next dumpster class
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Beast Hunter working pretty well at rank 14 lads.

Hunters are back!
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>>169019435
I notice this too, is it because noobs actually spend money on the game maybe?
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>>169019435

I can see why people would think adding 5 legos to their deck would be a good thing.
>>
this game hasn't been about actually playing the game rather than just somehow managing to survive since a year

hows it feel lads
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>>169019435
>people without many legendaries want to play with legendaries
wow
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>>169019940

Feels good man
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Gonna head to work, but here's a WIP for the NA Champion Ary's portrait.

Thanks for all the support today /hsg/.
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Why so many twitch streamers recently put their chat into followers only mode
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>>169019435
literally the only way for low level players to actually get to play legendaries
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>>169020081
twitch is getting a lot of bots
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imagine buying a prebuilt deck with 2 legendaries and 6+ epics for 5 bucks
shadowverse does it
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>someone picked a hot girl as avatar for me
Well thx I guess
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>>169020150
In Shadowverse you need three copies of a single legendary.
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>>169020173
>she
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>>169020150

What, netdecking isn't enough for you?

If you could buy individual goods cards then nobody would buy packs.
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>>169020352
in elder scrolls legends the rares are epics and the epics are legendaries and the legendaries are called unique legendaries.
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>>169020054

You're a good man
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FUCK your arena draft
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>>169020696
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>>169020784
>8 truesilver
insta 12 wins
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>>169020784
>120 gold

lmao
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>>169019940
pretty much why I hate this game
>magic even has different visuals on land cards you can pick to customize your deck
>In hearthstone you get to put like 3cards of your choice and the rest has to be anti aggro
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Just started playing this. How good is it?
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>>169021247

BUY PACKS
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>>169021247
according to /hsg/ it's shit
it's pretty fun tho
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Just died turn 4 against druid.
It's like the game is actively trying to make me drop it and never come back. Even the shittiest meme decks somehow achieve their perfect 1% draws against me pretty much every time I play this shit.
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How much did you save up so far /hsg/?
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>>169021247
its very fun in the beginning, but can become frustrating later on when you start playing against people with a large collection that play the best decks they found on the internet. then you start seeing the same things over and over, which many people dislike. just stick mostly to casual when you're just starting out, ranked gets really difficult for noobs after rank 20
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>>169021481
about tree fiddy
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>>169021247
Are you willing to spend 200-300 dollars to play the coolest decks?
No?
Then, just craft the newest aggro decks and bully rich control players.
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>>169021481
Just need a little bit more I think
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>>169021414
Just start botting, good reason to quit if you ever get banned. Chance is very low though.
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>>169021481
I have close to 0 now since I crafted all the golden cards before the rotation. worth it desu.
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NAME! THAT! CARD!
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i dont understand this reno meme

my average life as a reno deck on turn 5 is MAYBE 10 on a particularly slow opening
usually below 10 and often straight up dead

sometimes the board is so retardedly ahead not even reno does shit
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>>169022689
Memehouse
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Gotta love these turn 4 lethals with pirate warrior against a renolock, didn't even need to use coin.
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>>169022697
not everyone is playing pirate warrior shithead
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>>169022689
aya waifupaw
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>>169022689
sally

>>169022697
try to do something other than fireblast or lifetap for 5 turns
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>>169021481
Just received my pity legendary of madam dust will start saving now, very disappointing pulls this expansion
>Hobart
>wickerflame
>Goya
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>>169022531
That's a pretty bad excuse to have 0 gold. How many packs did you buy to completely dust?
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>>169022689
the dude that's mad because he isn't listed as a dragon
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>>169022689
Finnja the flying star!
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>>169022689
MEMEFOGGER. GOLDEN.
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>>169022689
genZO the cool intro animation man
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>2 auctioneers at the bottom of my deck 5 times in a row
>2 auctioneers in starting hand in 6th game
i remember why I stopped playing miracle now
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>>169022849
27 or 28 I think
At least its done down so I'll have 10k dust pack when the release happen, which is perfect to craft new stuff. I'm stacking gold again now
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>>169022689
Madam 'Cuckya
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Even in a weapon buff deck Blade flurry is shit, LIke a full deck dedicated to one card is still shit why are they allowed to just remove a fucking card from the game
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>>169023047
28 packs is like 2800 dust if you dusted 100% of the cards. Why do you have so little dust and gold?
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>>169023203
I already had dust available, and I dusted only copies found in the packs. Also I did this yesterday so thats why I'm broke today.
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>>169023312
If you had the dust available why the fuck did you spend your gold buffer on packs you retard.
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>>169023138
charge forward
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>>169023395
I didnt have ENOUGH dust obviously
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>>169023138
they should've made the nerf either a non face change or a 4 mana change, both was just silly.
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>>169023445
t. everyone player that doesn't spend 300+ per expansion when the second expansion of the year of the mammoth rolls around and they opened all the packs they were able to save up
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i fucking hate building reno decks. why must every non aggro deck be reno? why must mage/priest/warloc my 3 favourite classes have a nonduplicate legendary so fucking good it's retarded not to run it?
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>>169023445
How long have you been playing?
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how do i find a gf who likes games and wants to watch tournaments with me?
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>>169022531
It's only worth it if you didn't have any of those. If you had them you're plainly retarded.
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>>169023954
since beta...
I usually have 4k gold before a new set but I've been slacking off since the last expansion hit
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>>169024032
by becoming gay and finding a qt boy
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>>169024101
What the fuck are you doing with your gold and dust? I've been playing from season 3 and I have 36k dust and nearly 50 packs in gold saved up right now. Spent around 100 bucks on packs total.
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>>169024154
pass
there's a girl out there
i'll wait for her here...
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>>169022739
>>169022783
>>169022841
>>169022853
>>169022869
>>169022926
>>169022982
>>169023053
WRONG ANSWER! Shame it's a duplicate. I'd really enjoy something better like Raza or Shaku
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>>169024032
>falling for the gf meme in 2017
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>>169024195
>Spent around 100 bucks on packs total.
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>>169024195
>Spent around 100 bucks on packs total.
thats the difference right there
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>>169024154
also hard
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>>169024395
I've spent like 220€ on this game desu
not proud of it but don't regret it especially either
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>>169024195
I make all kind of decks, for every class
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250 and apart from the adventures, i regret almost everything because it's not enough in the slightest that's the real problem
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>>169024459
100 packs is 10.000 dust, not a 30k difference considering the gold.
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>>169024667
I craft my legendaries gold
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>>169024745
Show us your golden legendary collection
>>
Here I'll just take every interesting answer from the Twitch stream.

Q:First question from forums: when will classic cards be rotated to hall of fame? When are nerfs?
A: Nerfs end of the month; hall of fame rotation with expansion release.

>Gotta wait months to actually use all that dust

Q: Dust refund for Hall of Fame, can you double dip and DE after?
A: Yes, but you shouldn't because wild will be way better.

Q: Will hall of fame cards be obtainable from packs?
A: Wild only, not from packs, only crafting.

A: no heroics this year, and first xpac will not have missions. 2nd xpac this year will have missions, goal is to make them more challenging overall

A: a lot of the changes are really exciting, but some players feel negative about rotation because they don't feel we're supporting wild enough. we've failed to support it before, talking about how to do better going forward

>Was I really alone in expecting nothing from Wild?

Q: rogue class identity?

A: we have some good ideas. rogue players like their bag of tricks, we're experimenting with deathrattle and stealth. tricks are still their identity going forward but pick pocket-type cards are something we're looking at too...we're also keeping an eye on Druid.

Q: buffing cards?
A: we buff cards by making new ones, new interactions

Q: Reno Jackson?
A: healing is really important, and armor. we don't really want healing in neutral, like healbot was being used in every class. we want powerful healing cards, but want them to be class specific. you'll see more of those in the future

Really excited about the content we have for this year. Arena blog coming out this week discussing changes SOON (tm).

Been lacking on small quality of life stuff. Focusing more on that this year instead of big monolithic stuff.

--END OF TRANSCRIPT--
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Shitty Q&A aside, what's the best program for Arena draft assistance? HDT plugin or Overwolf?
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>>169024885
"Double dip" doesn't mean what you think it means
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Did druid overtake the most anti-fun title from Anduin?
Just tried finishing a few quests in casual and god dammit I would rather take a t3 loss to pirates than this retarded jade druid bullshit.
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>>169024968
overwolf heartharena for sure
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Should new players buy Classic cards or the latest expansion?
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>>169024867
there you go. its not much, really. Also I've been slacking off this month.
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>>169025183
jealous of n'zoth
that animation is really good
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>meme deck is 3-8 in casual
im already wondering what packs i should buy with reward
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>>169025183
just counted for fun and have a total of 64 legendaries (adventure included, I dusted nothing) so yeah I only started to craft in gold recently. Only golden one I ever dusted is Morgor.

>>169025348
N'Zoth is great, good animation and reanimates in gold. I think I'll be more picky in the future and only craft golden legendary that creates cards.
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>>169025180
classic
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>>169025180
Classic until you realize it'll take you months to build even the most basic deck that would never get higher than 15.
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>>169025180
New players should quit the game
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>>169025054
thanks
>>
Just started off against a shaman with T2 doomsayer killing off 2 troggs and a jade golem into murloc warleader + bluegill killing a totem golem into aldor peacekeeper on faceless

still got fucking rolled

if you play shaman you are a right cunt

yes I mad
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>>169026121
>if you play shaman you are a right cunt
Now imagine the people who made and okayed those cards
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>>169026121
Infuriating as shaman is, he is still not a fucking tempo mage. Not even close.
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>>169026681
Shaman player go away.
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Is it easier to reach legend in Standard or Wild?
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how would hsg break up with a girl?
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>give rogues lotus petal
>give druid 2/3 of a black lotus

who fucking made this game
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Decided fuck it and crafted sky cap'n
>Tribe decks will never be viable
Feelsbadman
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>>169027369
they also gave combo rogue literal black lotus
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>>169027136
Neither. Wild: You queue into the same guys over and over again. Standard: You queue into the same deck over and over again.
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>>169027136
standard
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>>169027423
pirate warrior is viable. and dragon priest is decent as well. you are talking out of your ass.
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>>169027561
To me a tribe deck is a deck that has cards that have synergies with each other, pirate warrior is full of non pirate face damage cards and dragon priest is more of a discover deck.
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>>169027750
>i don't like being wrong so I'm moving the goal post
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>mfw dragon priest goes netherspite discovering drakonid discovering tirion and resummons it with n'zoth leaving me one off lethal and dead next turn
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>>169028062
I'm trying to explain why I have that opinion, I feel that there's a certain aesthetic that must be met for a deck to be a tribe deck.
>>
>40% of hearthstone player base is rank 20
>40% of the player base doesnt fucking ladder because its that fucking bad
>>
I am unironically ranking up with aggro beast hunter lads
>>
what do
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>>169028461
Imp-plosion
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so the banlist is official and wont be changed any more? or is it a meme
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>>169028229
pirate warrior literally shares half of the cards with your epic pirate rogue. But somehow, pirate warrior is not a real tribal deck. Why? Because it's a good deck?

And calling dragon priest a "discover deck" and not a tribal deck is the most inane bullshit I have ever heard. It has 4 discover cards, but more than 16 dragon or dragon related cards.
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whos casting the tourney
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What the fuck is reynad doing?
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>one win away from ranking up
>one of the following happens every time
>run into hard counter
>shit/10 curve
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>>169028815
sinking like the titanic
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>>169027423
Why not include Gang Up and Shadowstep and meme hard?
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>>169028226
>mfw dragon priest runs kabal into felfire for the exact 5 hp lethal
And they say its counterable
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>>169028706
Pirate Warrior runs a lot of cards that aren't pirates, and the main win condition of Dragon priest is brann discover or cabal talonpriest shenanigans
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>>169028815
trihex is one of the most famous streamers on twitch though.
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>>169027301
>I have no time for games,
>I can wait no longer...
>BY FIRE BE PURGED!
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>>169027301
impossible, you can't get rid of them
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>>169027301
trade in old my girl
topdeck my sidechick on curve
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>>169029425
But he gets hardly any viewers and he's not good at any game.
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>>169029875
i don't know about his viewer count but you don't need to be good at games to be a good streamer.
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>>169029795
Is that Kibler?
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>>169029974
if life has taught me anything about coke orgies, it's that at least one of those women has a penis
>>
I missed the QA. Can I get a quick rundown?
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>>169028815
wasn't he supposed to make a fucking video about the upcoming changes
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>>169027423
The current aggro rogue memes is Finja. If they drop that shit on turn 5 you're fucked.
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>>169030281
CLE
VER
TRICKS
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>>169029795

Not him but there is this girl I have been hooking up with lately and last night/today I had a pretty red-pilling experience with her
>she texts me "So what are we"
>"I told you at the beginning this wouldn't be long term, I have no desire to be serious with you and the only feeling I get when I think about you is lust and only sometimes"
>she starts autistically screeching about how I misled her and I'm a huge asshole
>ignore her
>today
>randomly get a text from her begging "Come fuck me when you get off work daddy please I need your cock"
>tell her I would rather play video games after work
>she starts begging even harder

This shit pisses me off. I treat women I actually like and who are girlfriend material well and they get bored. I tell a slut I only want to fuck her (and only sometimes) and that we will never be serious, she won't leave me alone. Women are a meme gender.
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>>169030478
>>>>>>>>>/r9k/
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>>169029795
look at those shitty cards
how can you have fun with those boring cards?
>>
>>169030478

>/hsg/ - blogposting
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>>169029413
>Pirate Warrior runs a lot of cards that aren't pirates,
Pirate warrior literally runs at least 15 pirates. are you trying to tell me a deck that is more than half pirates with double southsea captain in it is not a fucking pirate deck?

>patches x1
>small time buccaneer x2
>N'zoths first mate x2
>southsea deckhand x2
>bloodsail raider x2
>bloodsail cultist x2
>southsea captain x2
>dread corsair x2
>optionally naga corsair x2
>optionally bloodsail corsair x

You are acting as if it was mandatory to run trash like luckydo buccaneer and blackwater pirate and kragg to call yourself A TRUE PIRATE DECK.

>the main win condition of Dragon priest is brann discover or cabal talonpriest shenanigans

you are a fucking idiot.
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>>169030621

He is farming on his alt account after finishing all quests and grinding 100g on his main account
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>>169030478
this is the childrens card game general
please leave
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>>169030594
>>169030663
>>169030767

I am currently playing Hearthstone instead of fucking her so it is /hsg/-related.
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>>169030713
this is how you really get them wet
>>
>>169030810

OK that's fine then, maybe I should write a post about all the mountain biking I'm not doing.
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>>169030673
I told you I have a high standard on what constitutes a tribe deck, you don't have to be so offended.
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i want the normie to leave...
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>>169030478
normies pls leave reee
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>get priest quest
>decide to play unnamed random priest deck in my list
>it's purify priest
>queue against dragon priest
>crush him because my deck fucking sucks

feels so good coming from ramp druid.
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how many wins can i pull out of my ass with this
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never rotating
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>>169031993
12 if you're good and lucky
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>>169031993
6 to 8 wins.
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>>169032136
how are they getting away with this antisemitism?
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just got the museum guy
is he still good?
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>>169033161
don't forget niggenfogger the ultrajew
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>>169027301
i'd keep dating her even though i know i don't like her anymore because she's no fun and she's just gotten worse over the years. then i'd blame here parents for how she turned out and wait for them to do something about it.
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>>169034208
it's a good card but not playable in this meta because t5 is way too late against the weapon classes

>>169027301
call her an aggro shitter
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>>169032196
>>169032252

I am an incredibly mediocre player who does Arena about six times a year.

5-2 so far, was 4-0 then ran into two back to back Warlocks where I got super close to lethal but they had 3+ Abyssal Enforcers and made better plays.

I gotta say, Implosion into TOTAL CORRUPTION, TOTAL POWER feels busted to play. Maybe I should make a Wild Demon deck...
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DIGITAL ATHLETICS HAHAHA
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>>169034764
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>>169034764
Dalaran Aspirant had +4 Spell Power.
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>>169034972
And he was at 10 Health.
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>>169025348
Thinking of craft N'zoth once I get the dust for having sylv and ragnaros. This guy seems to be the most versatile old god in the game. You think he will be worth it?
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Any NA tourneybros want to partner up and test our meme decks out? n...no h-homo
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Any idea what are the upcoming arena changes going to be? I've heard they wanted to increase the number of offered spells to a set percentage of a draft and it sounds pretty retarded, so it's believable.
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I'm making a h i l a r i o u s edit of the Q&A, I hope KinkyHearthstone doesn't put one out before me. If only I was NEET like the rest of /hsg/.
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FUCK MEEEEE
7 WINS REWARDS BOYS
FUCK THIS SHIT
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>>169035571
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BotDeckLethl#1358
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>>169011764
5-legend takes a 100-120 games if you're good. At 8-10 minutes a pop at most that's ~15 hours.

Stop complaining about being terrible at this not so complicated game, famalam, cause it's only your fault
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>>169035970
Arena is not worth the time invested for the marginal gains. Infinite is a meme anyway, only for the top 100.
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>>169035970
atleast you get a refund
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>>169036214
I know but I want to see if I get better and I like the mode.
With that said let's go for a draft.
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>tfw 6.6 wins over 200+ runs and not even infinite
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>how do you want your mage draft
>just fuck my shit up
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>>169036214
It's the only playable mode currently.

At least it usually takes you 7+ wins to start running into warlocks whose entire decks are made of Enforcers, Blastcrystal Potions, and Felfire Potions, whereas in constructed you can't get out of rank 15 without playing versus shaman or pirate nigger every other game.
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never forget the real hero of HS
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>>169037968
I remember, it was a kind of autism rarely spotted in the wild
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>>169027301
Flip a coin, let the rng decide it.
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>>169038123

Autism went too far, but we need Napoleon now more than ever.
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>>169035571
>>169035976

Yeah, lets do it senpai. Anyone else who's NA and prepping for the tourney can add me too I want to test as much as I can.

Randolph#1690
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I very much enjoy this mechanic and I'm glad it will be a staple in HS card design for the rest of the games lifespan.
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>>169039447
you cant complain about rng with dirty rat in your hand
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>>169010160
Forgot highmane in eu by hsg mate.
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>>169039864
oops. yeah I just copypastad it
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>>169039447
>play priest
>complain about getting out-niggered
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>>169039447
>reno
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>>169010850
Toast invented it you shit fuck Kripp sucker.
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>>169039816
>>169040136
>>169040220
Priest quest aint finishing itself
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>>169039447
>CABAL SHADOW PRIEST
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>>169011350
Put the series number in roman. Meme series vi for example.
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>>169011006
No he didn't, neither kripp
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is toast finally our guy now
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why aren't you playing this deck on ladder
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>>169040784
because ladder = fast games
I dont have all day to rank up
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>>169035496
Yeah he's a fun legendary. Works well in Shaman with Aya, White Eyes, Sylvanas and Cairne. And he's fun in Pally with the neutral Deathrattles and Tirion.

Kazakus mass Polymorph totally wrecks your shit though. Shaman is probably the better deck since you can still get value with growing Jade Golems if your N'Zoth turn gets sheepified.
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>>169040784
>even sleep with the fishes is epic
Why is control so expensive
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>>169040956
this game has too many epics that are narrow as balls
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>>169040784
because i don't have half of those fucking epics despite how staple they are
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>>169040784
i can't stand playing shit like this. there are 2 cards here that can win the game. can it even win against reno? i'd rather play the same thing but with deathrattles and n'zoth
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>>169040762
I really miss his toast mask, every single time he makes an "epic" play and looks smugly to the camera with his absolutely disgusting chinese face and horribly big cheeks that makes him look like satan from that Mark Twain animation I want to kill myself or go blind.
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>>169041473
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>>169041305
you don't play it for winning against Renoshits.
you play it because is nothing in this game more satisfying than watching some pirate faggot snap concede when the Justicar comes down after I've removed his board for the 5th time.

so fucking satisfying to watch it makes me diamonds
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>>169041473
toast isnt "disgusting" wtf
he's super cute
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>>169040956
Because even though they want people to play fun shit they also want you to buy packs. All of the neat offmeta decks require obscure Epics and Legendaries and most need 2x of a certain Epic. Hell even necessary meta cards like Ice Block and Prepration require pack gambling or crafting Classic shit which is hard to do if you're both trying to flesh out your Classic collection and keep up with the current expansion.

Meanwhile if you want to ladder you need to craft and build the good meta decks... aka the mostly pre-built Jade/Kazakus shit they want you to play.

I happened to luck into pulling two small time recruits and a sleep with the fishes otherwise I would never craft them since I needed to spend my dust on shit like Aya and Patches. Already took me over a year to get all the stuff for Control Warrior since I had to craft two Brawls, two Shield Slams, Garrosh and a Gorehowl and that's just one class's stuff.
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>From rank10 to 6 to 11
WHAT THE FUCK THIS STUPID SHIT LADDER
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>>169041705
I've been playing vs. all kinds of aggro shamans to fatigue.

It's fun to just shit on them and drop deathwing as one of your 3 last cards just to shit on them some more, but it also made me realize that a heavy-control deck that's built specifically to beat aggro shamans literally goes 1 to 1 removing and neutralizing all the shit aggro shaman is capable of in the current meta. It's disgusting.
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>>169042173
it's disgusting that an aggro deck, or even a fucking midrange deck like Jade Shaman, can still go toe-to-toe with a control deck in fatigue.

the amount of value that Shaman can get out of a single card is filthy. even Cucktrol Warrior is 65% against them at best.
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I miss old gods

What's the best N'Zoth class atm?
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>>169042907
shaman
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>>169042907
>Best "Insert legitimate archetype" class?
It's Shaman
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>>169041473
why are you a racist

who hurt you
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>>169043673
>implying there is anything wrong with being racist
back to plebbit
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>>169044006
I'll go if you go back to /pol/
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got myself up to 700 gold. is it even worth buying league of exploreres first tier for reno when he is getting phased out in like a month or so? I was only considering to get reno since I pulled a kazakus from a pack.

so if I craft slyvanis for 1600 dust I just get the 1600 dust back for him when the 2nd expansion hits? also, are they giving you dust value for all cards getting phased out or just the classic cards that are getting removed?
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>>169044164
all cards that are phasing out you get dust for

so yes you can craft sylvanas now and get a full refund when the next expansion hits
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>>169044095
/hsg/ is a /pol/ colony
we both hate niggers only they're colored green and red here instead of dark brown
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>>169044006
i don't understand the "racism is evil" meme Tbh
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>>169044164
Buy LoE wing1 before it rotates since in the future if you want its other wing cards for Wild you'll need to craft them when you'll probably need dust for UnGoro or whatever future expansions instead of just dropping 700g per wing. And the PvE stuff is pretty cool
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>>169043238
>>169043348

Is there a deck archetype shaman doesn't excel at?
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>>169043803
I can get behind this.

By turns 5-6 I have to weigh options more often than not, my luck is NEVER good enough to have Edwin and a spell with Coin.
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For any tourney guys I made a discord if people want to test, and talk about deck building.

https://discord.gg/4FRGTjd
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>>169044683
i was shitposting pretty much. shaman is not nearly as good as warrior at n'zoth/control
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>>169044683
combo/otk
it's possible but just a weaker version of mage, paladin or rogue
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Do you get ranked rewards for both wild and standard?
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>>169045065
only the format you have a higher rank in
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>>169043803
updated version right here pham
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>>169045616
>updated
>worgen warrior
m8
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>>169045616
So the smarter you are, you play shittier decks?
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Would Hearthstone be better if you could ban a class? Personally I think it would be great.
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>>169043803
>>169045616
Real updated version.
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>>169045869
shamans would never be able to find a game
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>>169045869
I'd rather just have rounds be Bo3 with sideboards
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>>169045869
>suddenly shamans queue takes hours
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>>169045964

Then people would make decks that are built around beating Shaman and queue into them until Shaman picks new decks

I think this sounds better in my head because I 420 blazed it
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>>169045772
yes because you start to see the futility of it all
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>>169045869
It would be shamans going against shamans unless even the shamans decide to ban shamans.
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>>169030478
I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for 800 Alex.
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>>169024257
>Trying to imagine a situation in which this card is actually good

Hunter, play fencing coach, cast damage spells, and double hero power in a turn?
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>>169045986

Bo3 would be nice but would never happen since HS caters to the casual mobile market. 40% of players sit at rank 20... You think those people want to sit around for 3 matches in a row?
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can /hearthbearer general/ remind me why they said shaku is bad?
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what are some mundane things such as food and shelter that /hsg/ than think of?
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>Ben and his crew of monkeys talking about waiting a full year to make changes like it's no big deal
Those fuckers take their playerbase for granted
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Fuck Secret Agent Coming Through and FUCK him getting my Confessor every time.
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Name a more broken card
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>>169048947
smalltime buccaneer, secret operative
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>>169048947
edwin vancleef
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>>169048947
this card needs to be nerfed when it rotates out of standard
it's so fundamentally broken in wild
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>>169049092
Edwin Vancleef can be killed

Can't kill N'zoth with shadowstep or any other return to hand card
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>>169049305
Conceal? Duh.
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>>169049305
>edwin and n'zoth are not the same thing
hey you're right
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>>169045945
CLEVER TRICKS!
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>>169048947
>>169049109
N'zoth effect would need to be changed to be either a deathrattle (+more stats on N'zoth) or just make him revive your battlecry minions.
Not sure why he revives the deathrattle minions aka the most sticky and valuable minions in the game
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>>169049379
Conceal can be broken with any aoe spell

There is literally nothing that can kill things in your opponents hand

Playing wild against n'zoth is fucking cancer

>Wipe their minions
>N'zoth plus return to hand

Unless you're playing cuck rush you're always going to lose no matter what
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>>169049596
Because they didn't start with "oh let's make a big minion that revives minions". They started with, oh let's make a big minion that does something cool with Deathrattles.

A battlecry revive would be completely pointless. Are you even listening to what you are saying?
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>>169049723
I'll admit, I don't play Wild, but wouldn't the strategy of this whole mess be stay alive without killing his dudes?

The idea of Shadowstep Rogue being the biggest cancer in Wild surprises me.
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>>169049928
>staying alive without killing something like 10-15 worth of damage minons with taunt

How would I be able to do that?
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>>169049859
>A battlecry revive would be completely pointless
That's the whole point.
What's more fair, revive a vanilla stats battlecry minion or revive Sylvannas, belchers, shredders, tirion and others that fuck you again after you kill them the second time?
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>>169050224
A creature that only revived creatures that were completely vanilla would be better than that awful card you are describing. Fuck shredders and tirion, but your idea is completely asinine.
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>>169050141
Set up one turn kills like the Priest One or Freeze Mage?
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>>169050730
That would make him unplayable, nobody would ever fill his deck with textless minions just to revive them on turn 10
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>>169050889
At least it would summon huge Jade Golems rather than fucking 2/3s and 2/2s that are only good because of some BS.
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>>169051085
>Jade golems
welp you got me there
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Is playing "meta" decks like Dragon Priest and Pirate Warrior FUN? I always wanted to TRY to go against the grain, but lately I feel retarded bouncing between Rank 16-13 with Jade Rogue.
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when should I reinstall this garbage to get Maiev?
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>>169047316
because it's in a class that sucks
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Should I craft patches or wait?
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>>169051875
when the new expansion hits probably around march-april but they haven't given a release date yet (or even formally announced it)
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>>169051997
you suck
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>>169052174
wait, pirates might be killed with small time's nerf
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>>169052174
Wait
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>>169047316
since when is shaku anything but?
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>>169052335
It's a good card, but it's not a good fix for Rogue's problems, in that it can't play much other than Miracle right now.

Used to have Malygos Rogue but those decks get trampled by Pirates nowadays.
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>try Arena
>get shitty drafts
>no AoE
>get bulldozed by coherent decks with tons of premium removal

Playing Arena to get packs/cards and gold is a meme. I one event get 10 gold for 3 wins after wasting my life in this shit mode reeeeeee
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>>169052464
I want the tricksy Jade Rogue with bouncing and Nzoth to work.
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>>169052816
Sounds like a clever deck.
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blizzardo gettin ddos?
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>>169052253
rogue sucks. All of its competitive decks revolve around a neutral card. At least oil rogue was centered around a few class cards.
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>>169053226
seems like it
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>>169053540
nothing wrong with that anon, so does renolock
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>>169053139
With a lot of clever tricks.
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>>169053735
its dead tho, unless they are printing 4+good miracle-esque cards. rogue is losing insane 4drop, insane 5drop, and a way to protect auctuioneer and/or ediwn/questing
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>>169053882
>insane 5-drop
who?
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>>169053735
If your Shaku nets you a windfury against the opponent Shaman, you get 40 damage from that.

I believe Rogue's biggest problem is that they are losing Tomb Pillager. Aside from the coin, the body was a serious threat and forced people to deal with it because of Rogue's burst potential. Without Pillager Rogue is fucked.
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>>169053882
uh huh
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>>169054023
Azure Drake.
Mandatory in the deck because of card draw and stronger spells.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a legendary like Azure Drake in the next expansion. 4 mana 3/3 Draw a card and +1 spell damage.
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>>169054023
azure drake
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>>169054040
I would love a Yeti that gave like a shadowstep variant. That'd be fun.
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>>169054113
without turn4-5 strong plays there is no solitare mode. Next time u fight rolgue just look at how week the deck is if they dont get pillager or drake in hand
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Who here thinks it would be a reasonable idea to run a highlander deck in the hsg tourney, despite no kaz and reno?
I'm thinking of how I can make a Raza priest work. I'm thinking that aggro won't a problem, so maybe I can get by?
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>>169054259
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>>169054334
I was going to say earlier that I think that Reno Priest is the only viable option to exist after the rotation, as Raza is so strong.
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>>169054431
I love Battlecry Deathrattle combinations like Toshley, but it needs to have a decent body like Pillager.
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time to start collecting the "rogue is dead without x" posts
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>>169054645
>miracle rogues are this delusional
weeeeeww the deck is literally a tier3 deck and the only reason its there is because it hard counters reno
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>>169054491
I'm intending to run the combo package. Otherwise it probably would not be worth it, unless I had some of the inspire legendarys.

In an environment where aggro gets neutered, it can maybe work. But not in standard after rotation. Reno priest is the weakest right now, which says alot about the state of highlander decks post rotation.

I also considered a rez priest, but thats a bit boring. Steal priest would be cool if I had the cards for it. The kikery of this game makes it difficult to make fun decks.
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80g quest NA only going to be on for a few since this game turns my stomach
jiggaboojones 11660
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>>169056832
sent on NA
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>>169017967
You should put on your thinking fedora.
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>>169057080
mb senpai the name is jiggabojones
I added too many o's
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>>169057492
sent on NA
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>3 games lost because I drew patches turn 1
>4+ lost to created by X

Is this the fun Brode keeps laughing about
>>
>You've been visited by the assassin of clever tricks
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Need opinions and inputs. I crafted Azure Drakes, Sylvanis and Rag over my time with HS. I play only standard and will probably never play wild. Should I disenchant these cards when they get rotated out or keep?
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>>169058414
yep
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>>169058414
keep because you will come to your senses and realize wild is the superior format
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Is kripp finally losing his mind, or is he just sick?
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>>169058414

Keep for brawls
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>>169058414
You'll want them for brawl and when you realise wild is the best format.
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>>169058976
W-whats going on?
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The fuck does this shit keep disconnecting me when I mulligan. Straight up crashes the game too.
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>>169060257
just happened to me while I was playing with >>169056832

this game is fucked
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>>169060257
NA is kill
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>>169009684
If I have a regular Ragnaros and a Golden Ragnaros, will I get a full dust refund for BOTH in The Year of the Mammoth? Or just for Golden Ragnaros?
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>>169061306
just golden
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>>169061348
Do you have a source? I'm about to craft Golden Rag. Will probably craft Golden Leeroy in YotM
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>>169061404
not him but

>Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set. (Yes, that means if you have at least one Golden Ragnaros, you'll get 3200 dust!) The dust will be automatically awarded upon log-in once the Year of the Mammoth begins.

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017
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i missed the qualifiers
who goes to the bahamas from na?
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>>169064078
drjkiniki
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>>169065039
the rest hasnt been determined?
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First reply with an EU battletag gets to duel me for this 80g friend quest
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>>169065215
Adder#2154
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>>169065215
>>169065257
Cheers
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Whoever makes the next thread can we get a link to the /hsg/ tourney discord with the rest of the tourney info? Thanks.

https://discord.gg/4FRGTjd
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Kripp broke boys. Blizzard has finally done it.
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>>169066562
what happened?
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>>169066992
he shit in his hand and flung it at the cam
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>>169066562
Falling to his marketing ruse to get more views.
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I have three meme paladins to bring to the hsg tournament it's hard to decide between them.
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>>169066562
He's sick and servers are fucking up.
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>>169067679

Patron Buffadin with Wild Pyro as your activator.
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>>169067765
Nah.

Menagerie, divine and arcane anomaly.
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>>169047917
pls be my gothic lolita gf
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How do we fix the going second problem? Seems like if you go second, especially in Arena, you may as well not play the game vs. some opponents. The statistics bear this out, as well - there's been something like a 5-10% difference in WR between going first and going second, a MASSIVE difference for a game that wants to have a competitive scene.

I think, considering the way the game is going, you should always start your game with an extra 1-mana 2/3 minion if you go second. How would /hsg/ fix going second?
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>>169068952
Nerf 1 drops.
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>>169068952
Make the coin have 3 different options.

1 extra mana for that turn.
Give a minion +1/1
Draw a card
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>>169068952
Uninstall hearthstone.
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Not that I swing that way but there is this suuuper pretty girl on Twitch, she could literally fit in a Indie Rock video or a Tim Burton movie tomorrow.

Dasha_Swan
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>>169069468
Shill?
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>>169069468
>>169069648
No. Pedophile.
>>
So what are you gonna craft with your dust from the mammoth update?

I'll be crafting Grommash and Finja
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>Playing Dirty Rat on curve

People still do this?
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>>169069916
Are you really dumb enough to not wait until after you see what new cards come out to decide what you're going to craft?
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>>169070032

Fair point. Yes I am that dumb.
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>>169068952
What?
Going first is always better unless you are playing rogue
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>>169070478

...that's the point of my post, numskull. It shouldn't be better because then the whole game is basically decided by who wins the coin-flip of going first.
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You are playing memes for the tournament right?
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>>169070574
im playing pirate warrior
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>>169070708
What's your name so I can boo on you from the gallery? :(
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>>169070478
Did you know that buccaneer singlehandedly switched that statistics back to going first is better?
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>>169070574

It's a mix of memes and shit tier decks with some anti aggro tech.. Don't want a full aggro drafter to steal the win again, though they probably will if sniping is possible
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What can you even do when you get outplayed by a random priest deck with a shitty combo you've never seen before?

Literally no counterplay

https://hsreplay.net/replay/QLYmHs2RxDVwB7HHD4ufbk
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>>169072487
last attempt
have you never heard of djinni priest
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>>169069283
this is cool
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>>169072336
>>169072487
Shaman everyone.
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>>169072638
>>169072591
There was some sort of server error across the site.

And no, I haven't seen the deck anywhere before. Got this list off of StrifeCro, it's more control oriented with 2 healing waves.

Anyway, I'm not sure what I could have done differently.
Maybe just not playing into his board and just removing his stuff? Waiting for double thing from below to taunt up?
Perhaps his draw just spiked me good?
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>>169072860
>put 4 healing cards in mid range shaman
>call it control
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>>169072860
>she plays shaman
>she netdecks
>she doesnt know anything outside of metadecks
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>>169072487
holy shit that twist at the end lol
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>Every class has got a 1mana weapon except for rogue
Really makes you think
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hafu makes me cum
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>>169073226
>priest
>hunter
>mage
>warlock
>druid
wat
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is twitch down for anyone else
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>F2P fag
>Love meme cards and meme decks
>buy 60 TGT packs because it's rotating out and I have barely any epics and one legendary from the set
>one chillmaw, one acidmaw and 2-3 epics (none of the ones I wanted)
>wave after wave of commons and rares
>only enough dust to get one legendary
I have never felt worse for buying something ever.

Have you guys ever been fucked this hard before?
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Open your mouths hearthcucks. All your questions will be answered by Big Ben
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>>169073963
You see, you made the typical beginner mistake to stop buying packs if you buy more packs you get more cards which increases the chance of you getting the good cards!

You spent money of hearthstone, you brought it on yourself.
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What do you think she smells like?
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>>169074280
ice cream ^^
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>>169073226
What 1 mana weapon does Paladin have?
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>>169074360
What flavor?
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>>169074251
I just wanted stupid virtual cards in my little video game.
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>>169074378
Light's Justice, 1 mana 1/4.
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>>169074443
umm...strawberry
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swallow everything anons. Like you did in the q&a. Dont spill a single drop
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What do you guys think this is? I got one legendary and a blue!
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>>169075003
buy more packs if you want something relevant. Now enjoy that meager 400 dust HAHAHAHA
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>grind for golden warrior portrait at rank 20
>added bonus of making new players quit the game
Shouldn't have given me the tools to make it such a fast job, Team5.
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>>169075003
Congrats on your Raza anon
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>>169074641
please don't make me masturbate again, i have things to do today
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>>169075053
>>169075229

>>169075053
All I got was this shitty wrathion crap. God damnit, this is my 5th legendary and it's my 4th piece of shit. I got Nozdormu, Edwin Vancleef (I hate rogue, fucking useless), Genzu the Shark, and Ragnaros.

Ragnaros is the only good one I've ever gotten, I mean I don't even have the cards to even MAKE a fucking dragon deck, god damn.
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>>169075003
genzo
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>>169075320
Oh shit, it's gold.
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>>169075320
use your creativity anon

>blow all your cards on edwin for early game
>genzo for midgame draw
>wrathion to stall and draw noz
>clock dragon to confuse opponent and rag to finish

there, your new meta deck
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>>169074489
There is no fun and pleasure to be had in hearthstone. Make sure you don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy.
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>its a turn 3 brann that you cant remove into turn 4 kazakus episode
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>>169075757
problems?
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hafu is so garbage to watch
can a better eceleb start streaming
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chuckle


is there a way to redirect my hs screenshots straight into a folder instead of desktop
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I missed the Q&A stream, is there any TL;DW for it?
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>>169075987
p4wnyhof is on
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>>169076146
sorry but im not a robot
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>>169076140
yea warm your throat here comes the TL:DR. Be prepared its a big one
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>>169076183
that's just a rumor
anyways nevillz is on too
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What the fuck am I going to do without Rag or Sylvanas in standard
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Reminder that March is the last month where you get to have fun with Resurrect Priest

With Sylvanas, Rag and Confessor rotating out you won't have fun resurrecting them after they get summoned from Barnes anymore
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>>169076716
welcome back friend
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>>169076623
Resurrect Priest is a Wild deck.
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Don't worry lads, Ysera will still he there for us
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>>169076787
Shit you're right, Resurrect is part of BRD and Onyx Bishop is not enough to carry the archetype in Standard
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>>169076786
I've been banned for so long I missed the tourney FeelsBadMan
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>>169076415
play pirate warrior or aggro shaman
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>>169076867
It has more to do with deathlord than anything else desu
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>>169077102
But why

Injured Blademaster is more fun to resurrect and it's the same mana cost
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>>169076415
Why wouldn't they be in standard?
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>>169077229
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>>169077102
doesn't protect face
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>>169076846
but she sucks
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>>169077383
why the dust refund on these cards as appose to the other expansions they rotated out? why did they not feel they could get away with deleting these cards as well?
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>>169077595
Because they previously said they wouldn't touch Standard cards, and now they touched standard cards
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>>169077595
Classic set
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does this work?
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>>169077721
I can't believe he went through and made it publicly available - Firebat
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>New expansion soon
>Last last 5 quests and 4 rerolls have been 40g
>one 50g quest
>2016 since my last 100g quest

Really fires up my almonds.
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>>169010640
kys senpai
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>>169077383
> removing ice lance
> removing azure drake

wut
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but /hsg/ always told me he was good
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>>169078390
ice lance could be used with shatter, too powerful in this one drop meta
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>closest wins until Golden is Mage
>dropped the class at the Yogg nerf because no mage deck will top the fun I had with Yogg
>two metas later, still no fun mage deck
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>>169078513
post the full book
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>>169078390
They're not removing those standard cards because they are overpowered, they're rotating them to open up design space and keep the game fresh.
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>he isn't playing chemo Shaman to remove aggrokebab
Considering either Hallazeal, White Eyes or Lotus Agents as additions.
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>>169078598
that's piracy
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>>169078887
>this is what a control deck looks like in 2017
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>>169078921
Do it faggot
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>>169078887
>jade shaman
>chemo
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i just got fired...
up to buy some packs xD
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https://mega.nz/#!EpMzkRSA!eo5E1abSeQQyE3O7UygxlVZMM2k0eyVBYPnyO2zSn8w
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>>169077702
Also because they want to push wild more and forcing people to dust cards that are going to wild if they want their dust back counters that desire.
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look at these packs
imagine the wonders that are inside
the sounds they make when the packs clash on one another
the curiosity and hope you have every click
the happiness for that orange border sixty times a row
it's an exhausting feat to open so many only a select few can give themselves that kind of joy
just stare at it anon and hear all the sounds
you are worth it anon, you truly are
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>>169080027
You're right I shouldn't waste my time on this shit game I clearly don't enjoy
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>>169080027
>60 packs for 63 euros
what's with this price scaling
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you know what i just realized :o
in shadowverse you get 3 daily quests, sounds familiar right?
you complete 3 and then next day you get 3 daily quests!
i literally didn't think about this at all because i barely play but then one day i did all my quests and the next day i have 3 again

CRAZY
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>get dust devil from maelstrom portal
>opponent doesnt kill it
>have flametongue and bloodlust in hand

JUST
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>>169080360
It's still weeb shit.
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>>169080360
Cunnyverse is dead, let it go.
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ARENA IS A MEME

How do I get better at this crap? Why isn't there a 'casual' draft practice mode where you don't have to pay to enter and win no cards/dust/gold/packs?
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>>169080687
>>169081039
once again i agree but imagine such a change just be added to hearthstone
3 quests a day, makes a big difference
not having any of those things just make me hate hs more desu
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>>169081409
that might ruin the meta
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>>169080027
Sometimes I just go to store and select the 60 just so I can hear that sound
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>people are unironically bringing pirate decks into casual

fuck off i just want to do my daily
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>>169081393
Download Overwolf w/ Heartharena arena companion program. Also, nobody is so bad they can't win at all in arena,
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>>169081393

Learn cards that don't suck (independent of synergy, good stats and effects), draft a decent curve, then just play for tempo

It's very important to have strong early turns in arena unless you draft ridiculous AOE

don't play around shit too much, you might want to make sure at least one minion has more than 4 health on turn 7 against a mage, but it will seriously lose you games you would've won.. accept the ridiculous topdecks and drafts and just play as well as you can, you will start making the gold back sooner than you think
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>Kazakus (created by Kabal Courier)
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>>169069468
Out of all the streamers I don't give a shit about, Alliestrasza has to be the one I want to fuck the most.
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>>169079885
It's like you're looking into his soul
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>>169081690
And my bot just wants to smash your fucking face in while I'm at work

The world doesn't revolve around you
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>>169082508
Since when does blizzard allow botting again

they used to permaban people for that
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>it's a dragon priest plays your sylvanas 3 times episode
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>>169081962
So I should focus on getting as many minions under 4 mana as possible.. with a sprinkle of late game threats like high HP taunt, 7 attack, etc? And against like.. warlocks and mages later in the game try not to just play everything in my hand on one turn in case they have an AoE

>>169081829
Getting it now, thanks

>>169082383
I had a funny one in a run: Goblin 1/1 discover a goons class card dude > I know a Guy > Wickerflame

But usually all I ever see (in constructed) is stuff created by courier, dragon op, and cabal tome
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LET ME DRAG... ON

HOW BARBARIC
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haha
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hafufeet
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>40g quest
>reroll
>spectate quest

is the classic pack worth it at this point or should i reroll
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>>169082836
it is worth it
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GOD I FUCKING LOVE FLAMETONGUE TOTEM
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>>169082957
ok. thanks
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>>169082641

That sounds about right, you generally want to emphasize 2, 3 and 4 drops. Support cards that help you trade up, like iron dwarf or sun cleric are very useful, and of course swing cards like champion or that minion buffing monkey out of TGT. Mage and warlock aoes are mostly commons, which make a big difference. you don't need to play around blizzard or twisting nether in the same way. deciding when to vomit your hand is always a tough call, usually when your opponent starts running low on answers or you have to secure the win immediately. you don't always want to sandbag the good stuff to get ruined by an overstatted bog creeper gaining the upper hand on board
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>>169082583
Current year bots are indistinguishable from (bad) real players
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>Old Murk-Eye is a wild card
No fun allowed, fuck this gay earth.
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xth for C'thun druid with big guys and taunts is actually decent
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>>169084018
4u
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>>169084018
I tried a Aviana/Kangz combo with maly/cthun with brann idea earlier. Had surprisingly good draw but still falls flat on its face without getting the right pieces quick enough.

Pretty neat meme deck when you buff cthun 4(8) times and summon him with brann out on the same turn
But its a lot of fucking cards for a turn 8+ combo
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>>169084018
I don't see it
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Since I already have both Sylvanas and Ragnaros, I want to minimize the chances of me getting a dupe by not opening any Classic packs until they're moved to Wild

Time of acquisition does not matter, only when you open them, right? I don't wanna hold down on the pack opening urge only to get burned in the end, that'd be shit
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>>169083758
When they printed Anyfin can happen they wanted people to have a cool epic murloc army worthy of a story to tell, not a charge OTK deck
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>>169084515
you ramp fast and turn 3+ you are getting your 6+ health taunts on board against aggro. Against control you can shit your board with big boys and put pressure on theirs face
It's not good, but not many decks can compete with multiple archetypes in this rock-paper-scissors meta
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>>169084696
Sounds like they're shit at both testing their cards and predicting how they're gonna be played then
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>>169084843
balance team is 4 people
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IS there a way to quick display all the gold cards I have>
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>>169084976
type golden

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20056284/search-your-hearthstone-collection-like-never-before-3-17-2016
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>>169084976
type "gold" in search
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>>169084843
They really are, they purposely put the murloc mass buff in a different class than the murloc token generator because god forbid they make a playable card
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>>169085024
thanks
>>169085036
that shows you goldshire and elise
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Someone got the EU bracket?
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>>169078809
only if you haven't got the normal ones

If you already have the normal ones you will gain 0 dust by creating them golden and the disenchanting
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>>169078390
>Ice Lance
"Freeze Mage is a fun deck that has been around for over three years now, and we’d like to see more variety with Mage decks after each major release. This move allows Freeze Mage to continue existing in Wild, while creating more variety in Standard. Ice Lance also prevented us from making powerful Spell Damage cards and designs that allowed you to duplicate your cards. Ice Lance was also a very high burst damage card, sometimes being a key component of 30 damage combos."

>Azure Drake
"Azure Drake is a strong Neutral card that ended up being a bit too versatile, and thus became one of the most played cards in the game. There should be more five drop options for players, rather than considering Azure Drake an auto-include."
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>>169077383
>>169077383
When is the last day we can craft them before missing out?
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>>169085510
Launch of the Year of the Mammoth, unnanounced yet but probably April
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>Jade Druid
>shaman in general
>Reno mage
>dragon priest

Has the meta ever been this unfun to play against?
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>>169085589
*one day before the
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>It's pirate dragon warrior that runs a brawl for some reason
How do I get matched up against these people
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So Jades and Pirates are softbanned from the EU tourney, right?
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>>169084696
>tfw wanted to put anyfin and old murki in a pirate/murloc shaman hybrid theory craft deck thats been working surprisingly well
i dusted anyfin because it was pretty useless and im not crafting cards that will rotate and may still suck

And old murk got sent to wild, havnt even tried to use it since i got to legend with murloc warlock before loe

Soo many turn 4 lethals shit was nuts
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Help me understand this card and similarly-valued spells like it.

When I look at it, I can't help but think
>This card doesn't really do anything. It spends mana to fetch another card to replace itself, that being a card that actually spends mana to improve my situation on the table, and another as well
>Instead I could replace it with another card that's actually useful here and now, and save that 3 mana. In a way, I'd really be spending 3 mana to draw ONE card

But I know I must be wrong because it's in every Mage deck under the sun. Nourish I can understand with a healthy 3 cards and needing to priced an extra bit for the versatility, and even Sprint since it whips out a dramatic 4 cards. But Arcane Intellect in particular is just so slight but pricy to give me pause.
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>>169085832
Yes, anyone playing meta decks should be instantly banned.
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>>169085832
wants wrong champ? you arent scared a few little pirates are you?
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>>169086042
Because the powerlevel between cards is so drastic you'd rather pay for cycle than play an absolute shit card instead
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>>169086042
the thing you have to learn quickly in card/board games is that card/piece advantage is HUGE
its definitely worth the 3 mana
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>>169086042
It's a card that replaces itself and gives you another, adding to your card advantage.

It's also a card that you add to your deck to get to the cards you actually want faster - these are called cantrips.
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>>169086042
makes your deck smaller, improves consistency. AI draws you an additional card too.

think of patches as every aggro deck playing a 0 mana novice engineer with charge for free at the start of every game.
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>>169086042
ARCANE INTELLECT ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING ARCANE INTELLECT WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE SPELL CARD, ARCANE INTELLECT, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS
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>>169086042
3 mana for 2 cards, 1.5 mana per card
nourish 5 mana for 3 cards, arcane int would be 4.5 mana for that
sprint is 7 mana for 4 cards, arcane int would be 6 mana for that

card draw is important i wont try to explain
then there is the ability to more easily weave in 3 mana than 5 or 7 for the other ones, gives it a lot better usage too
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>>169086272
his point was more that 'If i wasnt using arcane intellect in the first place, I would already have one card so I'm paying 3 mana for 1 card'

so you would go
>3 mana for 1 card (3 per card)
>5 mana for 2 cards (2.5 per card)
>7 mana for 3 cards (2.33 per card)
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>going first in the patches mirror gives you 8+ health advantage
LOL
>>
mammoth when? i want my free billion dust.
>>
>>169086414
>pirate warrior has better winrate going second
:thinking:
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>>169086042

At some point in many games, one card becoming two cards, at the cost of 3 mana, gives you just enough value to stay on board or finish to face.

It's a nice play when you have a ton of mana on a dead turn, like heading into Flamestrike and you don't want to dedicate any minions to the board. Or if you get Nova/Doomsayered and need something to fill out the turn.

It's also an incredible topdeck from an empty hand at 10 mana, compared to when it would otherwise be a single card. Let's say you play Loot Hoarder instead because it's a card that 1. Does something immediately and 2. Draws a card. You spend 10 mana on a 2/1. With AI you spend 3 mana on AI, draw 2 cards, modestly, let's say you get Frostbolt and Water Elemental, now you have something on board, and deal with something. In that case, Arcane Intellect was really 10 mana, play a 3/6, deal 3 damage.

The outlook you have on the card is an issue with it, and why AI isn't broken or anything. Sometimes 3 mana -> do nothing vs. Aggro is game-losing (even though you are cycling toward Reno or something).

Card draw is a mechanic that is needed in most decks, unless it is insanely over-budgeted, tempo-oriented, and has god curve (see: aggro shaman)
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>>169084696
sounds like they should've known that anyfin can happen when they conceptualized it.
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>>169086042
>sprint
>in the golden age of gadgetzan jews
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>>169086540
what I said was correct
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>>169084696
This is what I wanted it to be but instead of strong murlocs to resurrect we got trash like tinyfin and inquisitor
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>>169085061
Anyfin is Awesome is alright though, it's fun and CAN be powerful, but unlike ACH it actually requires you ensure your Murlocs' survival instead of ENCOURAGING you to get it all killed
Unless 'playable' just means 'broken' now, a redefinition I fear the meta has forced
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>>169087051
turn 1 STB giong first dies before it reaches 3 attack
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>>169086042

Every time you draw a card, you double the chance of getting the card you need when you need it. Drawing two cards triples the chance.

Card draw makes all the difference between winning and losing a game

AI is sometimes not used in tempo mage variations because it's still a 3 mana do nothing, I prefer acolyte since it forces the opponent to do something if they don't want me to get 2-3 cards. AI is a better topdeck though and well worth the mana cost
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>there are people who unironically play Reno Priest

I don't get it, so you put a strong healing card that restricts deckbuilding heavily into the strongest healing and draw depended class in the game?

Why did people think this was a good idea?
>>
>log on
>get high rolled 3 times
>log off
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http://plays.tv/video/58ad60e7ce469b5a6d/out-fucking-skilled

Rate this game
>>
>>169087478

because many priest cards are only good one-offs anyway, and the combination of full healing and secret agents coming through make up for the loss in consistency
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>>169087478
those other heal cards don't heal enough to be worth playing on that mana cost and they don't put a body on board. at turn 6 as priest you need to heal 25hp and put a 4/6 on board to have a chance vs patches decks.
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I want this guy to be meta again.
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why the fuck are there so many control paladins on ladder right now
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>60g and 50g quest
best day ever, can wait until tomorrow to play
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>>169087745
he was alright in paladin before the piratepocalpyse.
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>>169087745

>not playing this to counter all the 4/10 drakes and mountain giants
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>>169087780
>Play against Anyfin Paladin
>Run 2 Hex 2 Devolve
>Transform his warleaders
>He concedes
>Queue into him again
>He playes Elise on 4 this time
>Do the exact same thing
>He concedes at fatigue 2
It's a memedeck
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>>169087745
yeah
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>>169087589
>standard aggro vs heavy handed warlock game
wasted a minute of my life
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>>169086272
>>169087457
How's this then? Is this useful?
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>>169087963
>double enemy squirrels
>next 3 turns emperor, boom, rag
god damn
>>
>>169088129
at 0 mana people would actually run it
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>>169088129

It's OP, every mage deck would include two. Based on the dev's ethics on card draw it'd never get into the game
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*blocks your path*
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>>169088379
>he doesn't run Ooze
What kind of cuck deck are you running?
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>>169088129
It'd be super abusable in any class except maybe paladin and hunter, though even them could probably find some way to use it.

It would be infinitely busted in a class like mage or rogue for that matter.
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>>169088839
hunter has tracking already anyway
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>>169088379

>Plays kindly grandmother

Greetings traveler
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>>169089019
concede hunter
nice
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>>169089019

>plays hunter
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>>169089079
>doesn't play wild
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>>169089062
>>169089079

>He isn't ranking up with beast hunter
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>>169088820
I remember how good it used to feel to museum an aggro shaman's Doomhammer.

Now you best hope to play Ooze on curve if needed so that you may be able to build some kind of board before he equips another cheap weapon.
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>>169089280
>he cant lose stars at his rank
>>
>>169089382

I think you'll find I've got it to a mighty rank 12.
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>>169082642
>teleports behind you
>casually removes your 3-attack minion
This card is indeed the supreme gentleman of the set.
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why arent there any wild tournaments?
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>>169090572
>wild
>>
Someone make new OP image with the tournament bans per region.
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>midrange shaman starts emoting
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>>169090572

did you just not understand blizz saying they're hosting multiple wild tournaments
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>>169090797
when did they say that
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>>169089280
Just because the number next to your name is increasing doesn't mean you're ranking up
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>>169090683
And the Discord link
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What are some hearthstone streamers that both offer good insight on the game, and are kind of entertaining?
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>>169091285
>>169091285
>>169091285
>>
>>169090687
>Squelch, but just seeing their portrait light up becomes just as bad
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>>169091291
j4ckiechan or superjj
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>>169088129
Utterly broken and especially insane on mage and rogue
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>>169040784
>playing since Naxx
>never opened a single Brawl
Why?
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