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***Read this guide for the upcoming GranBlueF event: http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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>>168838529
First for Urd is best girl
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I want to BREED with medusa
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Can we fucking ban Angelic Snipe? I feel like even if Roach gets nerfed somehow, the card is just going to keep contributing to degenerate bullshit in the future.
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>>168838798
>complaining about a 1-mana deal 1
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who has the best body and why is it Cerberus?
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>>168837549
>>roping with aggro
>Doesn't that defeat the purpose of playing aggro?

There's no point at all playing aggro bats in this meta since you can't climb with it.

My only goal now is to tilt the maximum number of meta players.

I don't even care if I lose to sword, blood, shadow, even Haven players.
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>>168838798
lol
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Why is she so cute, anons?
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I need a concede and will return a concede if you need it.

Match ID: 44232
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Best shadowverse
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>>168839185
the fuck is that tiny picture
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>>168839028
The only thing your doing is tilting yourself. people are going to play the most powerful decks. Just like people play "meta" characters in other games. This is nothing new.

The vast majority of people have extremely low self esteem, the truth is that they actually feel better about themselves by spamming a more powerful deck all day. Just let them get there kicks if you meme, then you really are the true winner because at least you are playing something you enjoy.
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Which decks counter OTK Roach? Getting tired of these knife-ears.
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>>168839185
Strength and beauty together!
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>>168839362
csword and sun haven "counter" it
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>tfw no incentive to play ranked anymore as long as roach and goblin mage are allowed to be in the same deck
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>>168839227
Thanks anon.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12293083
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>>168839362
CSword and Daria are the only relevant decks that have a positive winrate against Roach.
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>>168839380
No damn it, she's beautiful, powerful, AND CUTE THE BOOT
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>>168839185
Genki
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surrender!

72689
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>>168839580

I want to do things with her booty
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>>168839362
Honestly?
Ambush if you play it smart
>can't suicide on units
>desperately trying to out DPS with 1 attack followers and stubbornly not evolving them because it'd be a 'waste'
Turn 5 water fairy hitting face while rogues creed boosting 4 units gets me rock hard.
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>>168839618
What's the deal with her and the Goblin Mage anyway.

Is she like her version of little Asian boys who tag along with Indiana Jones?
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>Fanfare: Enemy leader can't play spells next turn.

It stalls daria's burn and boosts, it cucks d-shift, it prevents Seraph countdown spam, it prevents roach bouncing with nature's guidance, it would protect a big board from themis or revelation.

why isn't it a thing yet?
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> 5pp Neutral Spell
> No spells can be played by either player until the end of your next turn.
There, fixed the game.
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>>168839362
Taunt heavy decks "can" counter it but the wolfcoming version in turn counters those. There's no true counter to the deck, rushing them down doesn't even work if they draw early 1 drops into turn 3 ancient elf.
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>>168839580
I think that Flora is more cute
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>>168838990
Why does Shadow always get the sexiest legos?
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>>168838529
This week on Shadowlog;
Rune - Daria gets 1% more win rate, Dshift loses .7% and Dirt almost 3%. They are now at 53.4%, 45.9% and 42.5% (RIP).
Forest - Roach gains .3% win rate and remains at the 55.8% slot, on more exciting news, apparently tempo Forest is back with 3.3k games and 57.5% win ratio, I've played some lately and can at least confirm it seems to be gaining steam again.
Sword - Control finally fell off the 50% win ratio (which means I can't make fun at other control decks anymore), it ended the week at 49.4%. Possibly because dshift and Nep both had higher participation % than last week. Mid-range is at 52.7% though, that's a 2.2% increase from last week. Aggro lost 3.3%, and ended at 47.9%. The fishes may be dancing.
Dragon - Ramp keeps losing win ratio every week for some reason, despite most lists being about the same. This time around it took a 1.1% hit and ended at 44.3%.
Shadow - Aggro gained .8% win rate, putting itself back at the 50%+ line. Nep gained 1.8% and put itself at 49.9%. Cerberus continues to be the best Shadowcraft girl.
Blood - Aggro keeps itself at 49% winratio like every other week since the meta stabilized, pretty good if you ask me. Still kinda sad to see since it had almost 60% on the opening weeks. Control on the other hand, Jesus Christ, ended at 39.7%. I can't even make any jokes at this point, just do yourself a favor and don't play control Blood on masters, results may vary.
Haven - Seraph ended at 48.9% win ratio, gaining .7%, and Sun lost 2%, ended at 45.1%. Boring ass shit.

TL;DR - Less overall number of games, most decks stayed around the same usage #, though. Roach and Daria together lost around 10.3k games from 20k total. Win rates for most popular stuff that ins't Daria and Roach seems pretty balanced. Mid-Sword and Tempo Elf are trying to bring some DE salt back on the ladder and control Blood has literally less than 40% win ratio. Dragon continues to be unstable.
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tfw you beat a Daria or Dshift with your dragon discard meme deck
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>>168839668
thanks!
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>>168839750
Nice brick

>>168839731
>mentions that it nerfs seraph as if that's a good thing
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>>168839362
literally any sword deck
funny how the #1 roach crybbs are swordfags
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>>168839809
>rushing them down doesn't even work if they draw early 1 drops into turn 3 ancient elf.
I don't know, I think it's fine if you start first or if you start second but manage to kill enough that the AE only becomes a 3/4 that you can kill with an evolved 2 pp follower.
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>>168839831
I want to nep those neps
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>>168839731
>it would protect a big board from themis or revelation

The fact that you were aware of this and still think it's a good idea is staggering
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>>168839862
>Ramp 44.3%
it's tier 1 guys, please craft all these legendaries
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>lmao roach killed cblood
>lmao kahwy is currently killing dragon and csword

Looks like Cygames wanted everyone to play Daria/Dshift with RoB!

So much fun.
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>>168839862
>Control on the other hand, Jesus Christ, ended at 39.7%. I can't even make any jokes at this point, just do yourself a favor and don't play control Blood on masters, results may vary.
That's really sad, everyone was so excited about it.

On the other hand I saw the writing on the wall when I realized Control Blood was just "heal a lot and go into Vengeance just to heal more" so I've been trying to make a Tempo Blood.

And then I just ended up with Aggro Bats. RIP Blood.
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>>168839862

I'm contributing to the Cblood losses, while auto-conceding to rune.

If I can do my part to lose as blood, and inflate rune's WR. Maybe, JUST maybe Cygames will look at their data and actually get to gutting Rune and buffing Blood.
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>>168839580
She will blow you away ;)
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>>168839965
If you waste turns trading you risk getting rushed down by roaches on turn 6. It's like the Daria matchups where they can simply out aggro you.
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>>168839862
Why is control blood doing so badly? I get it's an instant loss against Dshift but they aren't that common. Is this Roach in action?
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/OURGUY/
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>>168840110
You know many people are still running storm ramp?
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>>168839862
>temp elf better then otk
so fucking mad right now
every time I said otk wasn't as good as other forest decks I got shit on by all of you fucks
get bent fuckers
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>>168839715
>What's the deal with her and the Goblin Mage anyway.
>Is she like her version of little Asian boys who tag along with Indiana Jones?

No.

Their relationship is purely sexual.
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>>168840334
It loses extremely hard versus Roach and Dshift while also getting dicked by ramp and control Sword on the side, these decks are really popular and the advtange they have versus Daria can't carry the bad shit.
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>>168839862
When is the next shadowverse channel episode?
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>>168840095

>it's ok to have cards that clear the board

>its not ok to have cards that protect the board.

please elaborate in your reasoning.
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>>168840556

NepNep is also pretty hard to deal with.

My Laura+CoC variant suffers against it.
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Play Havencraft.
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>>168840714
Eris is pure, delete this
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What the fuck, can someone tell me how I just lost? Its the hand drafting in the beginning and I redraw and opponent doesn't redraw and takes too long and then I lose?
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>>168839715
She tagged along after RoB hero and Goblin Hunters cleared out the cave. GB was a little kid and was picked on by the gobbus, she didn't like them and left. Also was attracted to some shiny stuff Feena had on her. The Goblin King was on nasty power. Can't remember much of it desu, will have to do some digging and refresh my memory
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>shadow uses 3 mordecais and 3 kahwis
>one deck can only carry 3 odins

Fucking give banish spells to other classes than rune and haven.
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>>168840787

>enjoying ice cream isn't pure

wew lad
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>>168840443
No one is built around dealing with Tempo elf right now just like no one was building around aggro bats at the start of RoB.
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>>168839862
I wonder how many of these mid-sword wins are actually more aggressive control lists. If you go Veteran/Unica, Trooper, Floral, Alberto/Aurelia, Alwidas it's pretty much a mid-range curve. I personally did better this week around on control so iunno, I do agree with the data when it comes to Nep and Dshift being more common so I can see the performance tanking a bit.
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>>168840887
Just use Draconification :^)
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So... sleep 3 hours or keep playing this?
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>>168840887
The class with lots of banish hard counters shadow. What do you think would happen if other classes could do it too?
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>>168839862
>Dragon - Ramp keeps losing win ratio every week for some reason, despite most lists being about the same. This time around it took a 1.1% hit and ended at 44.3%.

Neph is becoming cancerous in ladder so ramp is dying.

Just like roach killed cblood.
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>>168840673
CoC+Laura+Limil is arguably the most satisfying thing in the game though, I think it's worth playing just to pull that off.
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>new kripp video
>he seem to have a lot of fun
>gets tons of dislikes
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>>168841327

Sleep is more important than this nonsense of a game.
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>>168840787
No.
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>>168841398
>Hearthbabbys
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go on bitch

drop a seraph

i fucking dare you
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>>168841336
Not my fault shadow is now annoying as shit to deal with.
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>>168840334
control blood only has favorable matchups against aggro because they can heal to safety. roach kills them from 20, dragon does what they do better and faster, daria has enough burn to leave them at 11 and finish them off with spells and blade mages, and d shift kills them from 20.

roach and daria existing takes away their mary burst as a wincon because they're forced to run more defensive cards which means their other matchups now suffer as a result. shadow being the only strong aggro deck doesn't help either, roach and daria have the ability to out aggro the aggro decks so people see little reason to play them when they can play daria or roach instead. if it wasn't for the cerb + phantom howl burst even shadow wouldn't see play.
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>>168841472

>not having lethal in hand

Do you even seraph punish?
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>>168841398
> sponsored
No thanks.
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>>168840991
I want to take this time to mention that Olivia reminds me of Momo every single time I see the card
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The moon drives me crazy!
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>>168839862
>Tempo elf
Is this a thing again?, someone has a list?
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>>168841660
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>>168840991
Was anime a mistake?
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>>168841660

IT'S SUCH AN EYESORE!
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>Thinking hard about removing cyclone from my control deck
>I get to use the card once every 15~ games on average
>every other time it is a brick on my hand
>instantly get saved two games in a row by it
I... fucking hell.
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>>168841885
>Streaming your pornographic cave paintings
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>>168842072
>>168841660
Leader when?
I'd actually play Haven for her.
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>>168841885

It's been pretty great for me.

I can't imagine other people having a problem with it. Really wish that I had that choco banana scene from KissxSis ready
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This deck is so much fun! I don't know why more people play it.
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>>168842113
Just run 1 copy
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>>168839270

I'm already tilted by this meta in general.

I mean I know that what you're saying is true. There will always be a garbage meta, so maybe this my role.

To just always be a fucker who shares my salt with the meta fuckers.

I really don't see why anyone should feel sorry for them with their 55 - 60% winrates.
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>>168842287
>an exemplary battle
hehe
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>>168842287

I will find you and rope you, scum.
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>>168839862
Should list Garuda haven, been having a 70% winrate with it on A rank.
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should I do it?
1 or 2?
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>>168842287
STOP BULLYING SWORD
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>>168842287
Dunno what's worse.

Daria/roach taking 15 hp in one turn or shadow recovering 15 hp in one turn + removing your follower.

This game is retarded.
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>>168842627
>robin hood is a cute gril
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>>168842627
All that'll happen is he'll get Tia'd and then you get roached the next turn.
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>>168842627
He's not even that good anon, don't fall for it.
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>>168842287
He should've played around 13 burst dmg turn 7 and he'd be fine
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>>168842871
That's not a girl
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Manlet leader when?
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So this is like Overwatch right? Just a copy of another popular game re-skinned with waifus?
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>>168843098
If you mean a better version of a popular game, then yes
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>>168843098
Yes except it's better and not dumbed down like overwatch was.
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Datamined Arisa's new upcoming flair.

I think it really fits her character.

What do you guys think?
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>>168843098
Overwatch girls are pretty terrible though.
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>>168843462
They need to add the orc class to balance forest.
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>>168843462
DELETE THIS
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Will this game let me maintain my decks between two separate devices like Hearthstone? I've been looking for something to do during downtime at work but I'd like to play on my computer when at home.
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>>168843098

> Just like Overwatch
> Overwatch is Blizzard copy of Valve game
> Shadowverse is Japanese copy of Blizzard game

Pottery
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>>168839862
>. Control on the other hand, Jesus Christ, ended at 39.7%
Why did I make this shitty deck over Aggro Shadow?
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>>168842739
Stop summoning Baha into Khawy.
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>>168843698
It used to be fun before RoB. Now forest had roack otk reliably by turn 7-8. Admittedly, it wasn't very good in DE either.
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>>168843648
Yes, but it's recommended you do your rerolling on your phone or on an android emulator. Once you register the account with Steam, it's locked in for good.
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>>168841398
its the result of selling out to a single game for money
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>20 packs
>1 legend
>1
>a shitty one
this bullshit is literally hearthstone
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>>168843540
Say that to my smug face
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>>168843969
Thanks, doing that now. 37 packs is a lot to go through when you don't know shit about the game, but it's fun looking at brand new cards.
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>>168844397
Opening packs is the best part of any card game.
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>>168844253

Baka gaijin slut cannot hope to compare to superior nippon waifu lewded a thousand times over for maximum sexiness
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On Twitch I saw a huge stream for Shadowverse other day. It was some dudes talking but I didn't stay long.

What was that about?
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>>168844397
You can skip the pack opening animations.
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>>168844253
>he calls that a smug
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>>168844563
>tfw 0 Cerberus
What should I do...?
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>>168844813
>he calls that smug
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>>168844873

Save lewd and pornographic images of her to fap to later.
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>>168844873
Craft her
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>Reaper in Nep
What the fug? Is this a thing?
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>>168844873
Buy three Shadowcraft prebuilts.
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>tfw stuck at AA3 and cannot go up at all

Is this my limit
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>>168845190
Not enough vials for even one lego yet. Besides I'd rather craft legos for decks where I already have some of them.

>>168845101
I uhh... When I said 0 Cerbs I didn't mean... Aw what the hell you're not wrong.

>>168845343
But that shit is expensive Anon!
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I read that when rerolling you should never stay with less than seven legendaries. Is this really necessary? Also, which -craft is easiest to jump into when first starting out? I figure I'll just focus on the storymode so I can get used to the battle system, but there's no point in gimping myself when I eventually play online. Are the preconstructed decks worth it?
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>>168845101
That's not pornigraphic.
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>>168845628
Rune has the best deck right now and it's relatively cheap.
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>>168845628
Depends on what you want to do. You cna stay with whatever you want, just know that rerolling is the easiest time to get a lot of them.

Preconstructed decks are worth it the first time you buy them for sure as long as the deck has two good leggos or at least one good leggo and all good golds.
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So for anyone struggling with deckbuilding in the next 3 days. Replace Teena with the 4-drop evo for most classes.

Obviously, don't throw it in ranked and expect good results.
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>>168845642

It's lewd though. Admittedly the spotlight is more on Luna because she doesn't usually dress like Cerberus, but Cerberus is typically lewd no matter what, so any picture I use would work I think.
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Should I replace my 1x Lucy for an Olivia?

Looking for good 1x options.
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>>168845642
And usually implies and/or.
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>>168845973
I would rather have Fangblade or another Alwida's or Baha
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>>168845306
Why not? It's a cheap growing threat in a deck with a million wards and doesn't fuck with pulling Morde and Kawaii.
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>vampy has lethal
>VAMPY CHAN WAS SAIKYOU DESUSHI X3
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>>168845628
Daria and Roach OTK are both the cheapest and best decks to play right now. Some Roach lists do play Crystallia Tia, but that is completely optional. The Forestcraft precon deck x3 will allow you to play Roach OTK practically right out of the box.

If you want to win with little effort, play Daria.
If you like math, play Roach OTK.
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How long or how many restarts does it take to get a good start?
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>>168845945
>That mouth
Every goddamn time.
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>>168845973
you should want both olivia and more rush followers.
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>>168846335
What if I like fun?
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>>168845306

At worst it is a 2PP 1/1 while can get crazy with how many powerups it gets from an allied death.

Also, can dodge the bullshit that is levi on turn 4.
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>>168846373
Tousan
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>>168846329
Vampy-chan sugoi dakara~
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>>168846140
I used to play a Fangblade but swapped him out to kind of mess with other cards. I don't run into too many situations where I NEED him but Lucifer is a card I can live without.

He definitely helps me but he generally isn't a direct answer to things. Just helpful really.
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I can't even remember the last time Aggro Sword didn't go first and have Quickblader off the bat.
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>>168843070
she is in the dubcuck version :^)
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BOY I SURE HOPE KHAWHY DOESN'T SHOW UP AND FUCK MY ASS!
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>>168846747
When you played it
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>open double scripture against Shadow
>draw into third turn 2
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>>168846863
>Memestema
the mad man
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>>168846747
The same way forest always manage to pull ancient turn 3
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>>168846863
>>168847027

OF FUCKING COURSE HE DOES
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>>168846618
Winning is fun. I've never met a person who doesn't like winning.
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When is a good time to start this game? I'm interested because I play Granblue Fantasy and there's going to be a collab soon and a lot of the characters are shared
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Which of these should I get rid of?
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>>168846863

>blood always have that turn 2 yurius
>turn 3 veight
>turn 4 raider if control

Why don't you just fuck off?
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>>168846747
>Sword will always have
>Rune will anyways have Insight
>Haven will always have Plea
>Shadow will always have Skull Beast
>Blood will always have Wraith
>Forest will always have Water Fairy
>you will always pass
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>>168847079
I was always saying that Khawy was a very strong card stuck in a bad class but now I'm kind of annoyed at all the Khawy complaining for some reason
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>>168847151
>When is a good time to start this game?
anytime

you get tons of free shit for rerolling and cygames gives gold and packs like candy, some anon must have that copypasta newfag guide somewhere to post for you
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>>168847079
Atleast you are still left with one 6/4
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>still won at turn 6
This deck is pure cancer
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>>168846863
>control blood
Found your problem.
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>>168847205
Alexander is probably a dead card that is unlikely to see play again beyond 1 copy at most. LotF isn't particularly good but I wouldn't call it an easy dust.
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>>168846373
>>168846373
>>168846373
>>168846373
>>168846373
please respond
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>>168847079
problem?
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>>168847205
all of them are good except alexander. lord of the flies is a bit weak but playable and has potential to make a comeback.
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>>168847290

>implying a shitter will work that out

He will ram mastema into kawaii and then complain instead of using removal. Stupid asshole.
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Can I get a concede please 39582
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>>168847229
all you need to do to deal with khawy is not be greedy around the turn he's played

or odin if you're going first
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>>168847205
Those are all alright sans Alex.
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>>168846373
Took me an hour. Watch a movie while rerolling to pass the time.
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>>168847406
>>168847457
>>168847530
neat, that'll get me enough vials to finish the deck I'm working on, thanks /svg/.
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>>168847509
Thanks
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>>168847217
>Dragon will never have
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>>168847612
What deck?
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Help
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>tfw
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>>168847792
phantom dragon is really really bad
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>>168847792
left
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>>168847770
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-tempo-runecraft-70-wins-out-103-matches-kumi

I'm terrible at card games and I've tried SV on and off since it came out but never made much progress, I just started it up again today and after drawing the RoB cards I had a large portion of the ones in it so I decided to make the last few I was missing and give it a shot.
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>>168847689
Imprisoned Dragon?
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>>168847792

go nep and hope for the meme dream
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>>168847434
It's random
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>one legendary in 37 packs
it's like I'm really playing hearthstone
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>>168847434
>literally RNG
You'll never get the start you want. Go play something else.
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>>168847823
Is that supposed to be midrange?
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>drops levi on turn 2

what did he mean by this?
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>>168847780
tsucummin' tsucummin'
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>>168848084
Is it really that big of a deal that you get a perfect start?
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>>168848170
Means his hand got 2 more levi and piercing runes.
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>>168847897
>Flame Destroyer
Find a better list.
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>>168848117
>>168848117

at what point it stops being mid-range and starts being control?
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>>168847792

Right. Balor is a killer in T2
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>>168848213
Of course not. But when you ask how long it takes for RNG to be in your favor, what kind of answer do you expect?
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>>168846373
If you just want good cards (for any class, for any deck), you can do it in around 30 min to 1 hour, depending on how lucky you are. If you want more specific stuff, it can take you up to 3 hours, depending on how many and how specific the cards you want are.
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>>168848315
Midrange has a strong aggro portion and control doesn't
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>>168848213
having a perfect start is basically impossible; I'd say if you have 4 or less legendaries is already ok but can be rerolled, 5-6 is enough to start the game and rerolling after that is pushing
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>three control babbies disconnect because they lost against dshift

booooo hooooo
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>>168847823
The funny thing is he can still wipe your whole board and kill you from hand if he has the right cards.
Only class that can do this on turn 7.
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>>168848454
And I'll do it every time too.
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>>168848454
>control player calling other control players babies
fucking dshift players
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>>168847510
And then you odin him and there's the mordecai problem.

Also neph guarantees you have at least 6 chances to put mordecai in the board.

Seriously neph shadow is fucking nightmare for control decks unless you play earth rite or haven.
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>>168847780
>>168848202
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>>168848584

d-shift is textbook combo though
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>>168848607
What fucks Neph over the most?
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>>168848805
you are looking for an excuse to be haven cancer, go ahead do it
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>>168848584
>dshift
>control

well, you weren't the one who dc'd on me

you're still in the B's
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>>168848531
Aggro shadow can do some serious damage on turn 6 with the right cards, i finished many games with a phantol howl + mimi coco + evolve combo
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>>168848805
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>>168848805

Dirt.

>Calamiotous THREE mords
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Why doesn't Earthrire run Satan?
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>>168848805

DShift, Serpah and Daria to an extent because their early game is not that great.

t. 2378 Nep player
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>>168848454

>dshitters disconnecting when they got zerg'd on turn 6

Not that I care about your opinions. You guys are just free 100 MP.
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>>168848889

>summoning ghosts
>Yurius

Rune still maintains the master of bullshit position over aggro shadow in terms of how much damage it spews out.
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>>168848923
>>168848927
>play against dirt
>they don't draw a single banish in the 15 turns long game
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>>168848945
it's a one of sometimes
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>>168848945

they do depending on the build
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You have 10 seconds to name the most cancerous card in the game.
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>>168848773
>>168848886
>counter everything the opponent does
>not control
no reason its not both
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>>168849183
quickboy
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>>168848889
howl would kill him here and he would still have 3 wards to deal with
but yes shadow can deal a lot of damage if they have the combo ready
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>>168849183
Levi
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>>168849183
unica clearly
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>>168849183
http://usamin.love/card/rhinoceroach/j_summon.wav

Honorable mention goes to dshift
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>>168849183
nature's guidance
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>>168849183
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>>168849342
U-Unica ganbarimasu!
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>>168849228
>may
not even the most cancerous 1drop
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>>168842410
You are fucking pathetic my dude. But it's alright, enjoy your martyr complex because apparently you can't enjoy the game.
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>>168848923
>have wards up the ass
>still lose to roach
>have banishes up the anus
>still lose to aggro shadow

Dirt rune is a total unreliable train wreck.
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>>168849183
Roach, no question.
Rune just gets more shit because it has the next several or so down the list.
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>>168839710
>ambush
Will of the Fuck you and your family :^)
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>>168849183
Seraph.
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>>168849183
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Wew
saha ramp versus csword is a really fun matchup
But I guess I was favoured all things considered
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>>168849787
>no themis
garbage
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>>168849738

Just 1 tick of creed on a field of four followers already pushes the board out of complete wipe status.

Try again.
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>>168849787
Swap phatom for Kahwhy
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1v1 me no concede final destination no items

46313
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>>168849895
Alright you got me interested, give dicklist.
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>make seraph deck because svg told me it was free wins cancer
>get unga'd to death by sword and bats
>running 3 snakes and defenders
>2 unicas
>2 beastcallers
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Am I supposed to add more 2-3 drops to survive?
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>>168849890
Themis is not cancer without Seraph.
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>>168850149
Firstly, don't run sister initiates they're shit
Make sure you add blackened scriptures and 3 beastcall, unica isn't that great desu
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>>168850149
If you visited shadowlog you'd know haven has worse overall winrate than dragon.
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>>168849423
>make seraph deck because svg told me it was free wins cancer

We memed another one to waste vials boy, remember when people thought dragon was tier 1?
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>>168849964
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>>168850272
>shadowlog
Is it reliable?
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>>168850337
d-delet this
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>>168850064

I'm just saying that from an armchair perspective, I don't have the list, since I don't have the cards.

Doesn't change the fact that every follower by default has to have at least 1 defense and that creed gives +4 defense, meaning everything would've had to been played all at once AND they all had 1 defense prior to the tick for the full hand WotF to work.
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>>168850317
Dragon is tier 1. Retard.................
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>>168850272
Dragon is picking up. Blood is the new floor for shit classes.
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>>168850337
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>>168850398
No.
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How many times would a wise man reroll? Are there certain legendaries/golds I'm looking for or just a certain number? Do the cards you get from story mode see much use?
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>>168850337
sauce
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>watching baka gaijin tournament
>their format is 100% better to watch than the official one
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>>168850272
but i cant read moonrunes
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>>168850337
>tfw Erika sexually exploits poor goblins that don't know any better
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>>168850554
Figure out what kind of deck you want to play and then roll for specific core legos
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>>168850554
You want 2-3 playable legends for decks you want to play. Plus either some decent golds, or some other legends you can vial.
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>>168850636
There a good place to go to find out the general playstyles or the current decks so I can look up videos to see what I like and plan things out?
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>>168850559
Filename contains the Pixiv Id, anon.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61201116
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>>168850756
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/

check the OP
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is this correct?
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>>168850554
The newbie FAQ in the OP has a bunch of recommended cards for each class.
Some of the story cards are staples for their class, like Dragon Warrior and Priest of the Cudgel. Others are useless outside of meme decks, like Rose Gardener.
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>>168850895
Someone make another one for the alt leaders.
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>>168850246
>seraph deck
>not running 3 hollowed 3 prayers 3 sisters
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>168851065
I bet you run 3 seraph too, loser
enjoy dying to aggro
>>
>play Rune Daria
>lose 5 times
I thought this deck was supposed to be good
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>>168850895
What about my husbando Urias

What would he say
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>>168850554
Holy shit is rei really going to marry hinata?
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Newbie here. Need Halp.

I'm thinking right is better, they combo each other sort of.
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>>168851225
bend over
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>>168851252

Have you checked on the cheat sheets in the OP?

Seriously question, I will pick left because Saha is a meme in T2.
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>>168851295
Unf~
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>>168851252
I like left more, less brick potential, each card on the left works well by itself, but Sahaquiel can easily end up being a 7/4/4, which is pretty bad.
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>>168851252
Left.
Saber is good, Olivia is a winbomb.
Saha is shit in T2, Baha is a winbomb.
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>>168851229
Shit, sorry for the spoiler. In the manga, Rei and Hina have been supporting each other a lot and Rei has realized he loves her romantically. Hina's still immature and thinks it's a ploy to scare off her deadbeat dad, but the way she acts makes it pretty obvious she sees him the same way.

>>168850971
>>168850847
I've been camping out the FAQs in the OP while rerolling, just easier to understand a deck from watching a video of it in action.
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Which card has the biggest anime tiddies?
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This game needs a limited list. Can you imagine how much better the game would be with Daria at 2 and Levi at one? Roach at 1 would force them to make good cards for Forest again.
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>>168851594
>>
>>168851594
i do

do you want to touch my tiddies

watch out they might droop down between your fingers like a water balloon so please be careful

ahhhhh so tender
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>>168851656
Konami devs pls go away
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>>168851594
>>
>>168851380
>>168851498
>>168851465

Thanks guys. I still got a lot to learn
>>
Could I get a quick concede please?

53768
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>>168851725
It boggles my mind that they censored the girl with the big tits but left all the underaged girls 75% naked. And they changed Satan's name but Lucifer's still in there.
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>>168851734
I'm going to pretend I never read this post.

>>168851778
This is actually what I was thinking, does Magisa really have all the others beaten in sheer volume?
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>>168851725
>>
KAMURA IS SILVER MY FUCKING ASS
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>>168851872
>I'm going to pretend I never read this post.
but anon

aren't you going to help me buy a bra for my giant tiddies

don't worry "hammock" is just a brand name
>>
>>168851872

That's what I think, there's a couple of other women who can compete with her, but she's still #1 I think.

>captcha tells me to click the football
>shows a soccer ball

Okay whatever
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>tfw you outunga the ungalord
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>>168851824
Thanks!
>>
>>168850337
Is Eris the only pure leader?
>>
>>168851506
I was rooting for kyouko.
>>
>>168851957
What's on the other side of this earth?
>>
>>168852045
>you started first
don't

BULLY
>>
>>168852085
I was too until the bully arc and Hinata stopped fucking around being cutesy and kind all the time.
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>>168852140
I will bully you however much I damn please.
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>>168851872
Koga kunoichi also had beeg tiddies
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>>168851734
>>168852002
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>>168851837
Isabelle's cleavage takes up more space ingame. All other tiddies aren't that imposing since they are inside a tiny token in the board.
>>168852079
No.
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>>168851837
Localization teams are just a big bundle of contradictions.
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>ramp dragon is now a thing
>neph shadow is also a thing
>blood is just plain useless

Nice game balance shadowbbs.
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>>168852139
A magical world where Blood is T1 and Dragon is the most unga class in the game.
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>>168850895
Switch Hag and Arisa
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>>168852643
this
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SO CLOSE I CAN TASTE IT
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>half of deck is 1 drop and 2 drop
>still managed to brick hand
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How I'm supposed to play Daria? like aggro or control?
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>2x Will of the forest on 2x servants
>I lost..
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>>168852910
Depends on which variant of Daria and your matchup.
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>>168852781
nah
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>>168852910
Depends on matchup and what you pulled
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>>168852910
Daria literally plays you. Just play whatever you have in the hand.
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>>168852910
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>going first against dragon
>you brick early and they get their ramp off
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>>168853153
Almost bad as being in Sweden last Friday.

Pure PTSD.
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>>168852643
The old hag probably can't even remember her own name, let alone what love is.
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>>168850895
>luna being tsundere
If anything she would be overjoyed to have someone love her so much
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>>168853239
>Sweden last Friday.
?
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>>168850895
w-what about garuda
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https://clips.twitch tv/excelsiorvindi/FancyKoalaSoBayed

Just ward :))
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>>168853153
>opponent mulligan's 3 cards
>perfect curve
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>>168853390
It's never good to be in Sweden.
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I did it! I won!
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>>168853390
he's making a joke about how trump was at a campaign rally talking about how banning refugees was important because of the incident that happened in sweden last friday

nothing happened in sweden last friday

basically bowling green massacre 2.0
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>>168852910
>Dariashitters need to ask how to pilot the most auto-pilot deck in the game
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>>168853520
Oh, my bad. I'm very politically retarded.
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>>168853519
Fuck forest players though.
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STOP CALLING ERIS HAG YOU FUCKER SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL LADY
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>>168853110
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>>168853497
I can remember this happening twice in over 250 games.
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>>168853520
>bowling green massacre
RIP the ten million slaughtered

>>168853587
It's okay, politics has gotten retarded itself.
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>>168853597
O L D

H
A
G
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My friend quit this game and left me an account with a lot of stuff(over 60 legendaries he said). He also has 24k vials and I'm wondering what to spend them on. If I post the stuff he has here, could you guys help me figure out what to do with the vials?
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>>168853606
You can almost feel the disappointment in her eyes
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Is it possible to make midrange sword without otomeme?
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>>168852781
Not a single thing.
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>>168853659
She's forever 17!
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>>168853547
>the most auto-pilot deck in the game

Daria takes more brain than
>seraph
>aggro sword
>aggro shadow
>aggro blood
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>>168850895
Arisa's line should've been the same as Erika's.
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>>168853675
If he already have over 60 legos you most likely don't need to craft anything. Play the game, look at the netdecks and such. You'll get around.
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>>168853971
Arisa is Roachsexual.
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>>168853965
It's same shit as aggro, anon. Especially with spellboost mechanic and piercing rune.
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>t2 sword
>draft a great low curve
>run into 3 dragons that all managed to draft salamander's
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>>168853942
SHE IS AN OLD HAG! ACCEPT IT!
That being said I would totally defile her virgin body multiple times over and over while not using protection and take responsibility
>>
>Play Control Sword, win 1/3 of games in rank
>Make a quick cheap aggro sword deck and win most of em

why this
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>>168853675
Yes, just post your golds and legendaries.
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>>168854158
That's what I hate in csword, the fucking bricking shit.
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>>168854158
you're too retarded to play control.
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>>168854009
>If he already have over 60 legos you most likely don't need to craft anything.
I figured he already had most important legendaries since he has 12 decks made but I'm wondering if I was missing some important stuff or not. I just wanna spend some of those vials I guess. I see no reason not to but if people think I don't need anything after seeing the collection, I could reconsider. I'm set on making at least 1 legendary but I don't wanna mess it up.

>>168854179
Ok, give me a few mins.
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>>168853153
CHIN UP
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>>168853971
arisa is my cute cinnamon roll, don't compare her with the degenerate lesbian
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Should I craft Garudas for Storm Haven? I'm so tired of the other zzzzzzz Haven decks.
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>>168854341
Make a Saha Ramp deck for the memes.
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>>168854274
You have no experience with using Csword besides the basics
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>>168854486
>implying
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>>168845354
Just net deck. Or a deck that counters the top net deck.
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>>168854158
Play midrange.
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>>168853094
What if it bricks?
>>168852980
I'm just using a standard version https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/jcg-open-vol50-1st-place-daria-tempo-runecraft
>>168853547
Hey Is what I rolled the other day and want to watch ape hoop while playing so the less attention it requires the better
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>>168854678
I want to fuck that elf
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>>168854179
>>168854506
These are the golds.
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>>168854910
And legendaries.
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>>168854756
Does Midrange perform better against Rune? Because that is honestly the only deck I cannot beat unless they draw poop.

I can beat aggro with Csword just fine and do well against other decks even Haven (though that ones still a struggle) but minute I face Rune it's probably gg.

And unfortunately Rune is 90% of rank right now.
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What decides whether the ragequit counter stops after 5ish seconds or goes all the way
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>>168854910
Holy shit did you luck out.
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>>168850895
>Erika
>lesbian
I guess is time to make her submit to the cock
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>>168855023
The madman bought 3 of every preconstructed.
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>>168855029
Whether they login again or not.
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>>168855023
>>168854910
Literally build whatever the fuck you want.
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>>168855023
>>168854910
You can make pretty much whatever you want.
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>it's another levi into piercing rune percing rune crimson destroying your entire board
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>>168855205
>>168855186
So It's not missing any core cards for any top or mid tier decks then?
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>>168855230
>not Levi into double piercing rune
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>>168855023
>3x Forest and Rune
Understandable if you're new and want to play Roach or Dshift quickly.

>3x Dragon and Shadow
Not as value but Forte and Cerb are staple legos

>3x Sword, Haven, and Blood
Shit nigger wtf are you doing.
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>>168850756
Yeah youtube has quite a bit, hearthvods if you're into kripp playing shadowverse
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>>168855291
Literally none. Even if it was you could vial some of the shit legendaries.
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>>168855023
>3 of every pre constructed deck

JUST
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>>168855510
>Even if it was you could vial some of the shit legendaries.
That's the thing. The account has 24k vials and I wanted to spend some. I want some advice on what to spend them on.
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>>168855291
If you ever want to play Midrange or Control Sword, you'd want at least a couple Tsubakis.
The best Dragon deck currently uses three Sahaquiels and Lucifers.
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>>168855560
The next expansion.
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>>168855291
It has eveything you need for Roach and Daria, so you don't need to care about having decks for Ranked.
With 24k vials and all of those legendaries, you can build pretty much anything you want, even Saha Ramp. You can even vials some shit for even more vials.
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>>168855023
i feel bad for your friend
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>>168854756
post a list por favor
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>>168855385
>piercing rune piercing rune crimson
That's what I said.
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>>168855560
You can get a few Tsubakis and build Control/Midrange Sword.
You can get a second Odin, Lucifers and Sahas and build Saha Ramp.
You can get a second Odin, a second Satan and make Sun Satan.
There are plenty of options.
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>>168855560

Save them if anything. If you want to make the super expensive deck that makes Dragoncraft good you can make 2 more Sahaqiels and Lucifers.
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>>168855026
Sword in general just doesn't do well against Daria, they don't have the tools to deal with it.
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>>168855752
Post your Csword and I'll tell you what to replace.
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>>168854678
Are you the guy who asked if Losario could be modded to replace Arisa?

If you are, then replacing Arisa's animations with Losario's would be hard, but I could replace static portraits easily.
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>>168855026
>>168856159
Cycloned Aurelias have saved me against Daria more than I'd like to admit.
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>>168856159
The only times I won against Dorothy decks is with aggro sword and going first. Granting my design revolves around fencers and white generals buffing officers especially Fervid Soldier to deal damage as fast I can even if I get board wipe, storm followers just finishes them off.

It's not damn consistent since I lose if I get stalled or have meh draws.

I don't know if it applies since I'm at C rank
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>tfw got memed by bannersword
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>>168856546
>implying any good player leaves sword followers alive
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>>168856412
How hard would it be to replace hag or Erika with Nexus?
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>the player with the most ranked wins for dragon is a2
>over 900 wins and he's still not master
The fuck is this shit, is this guy a master of sandbagging or what?
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>>168856546
That's the problem: if they can't pull off a Cyclone, they just can't deal with it.
Aurelia by herself is not good, their followers are too fat.
The deck has no healing, so it can't survive the massive burn.
It's just a bad match up for Sword.
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>>168855603
>>168855643
>>168855670
Hm ok. I will play some of his dragon decks and see if I like it to make the sahaquiels and lucifers as 4x would be a 14k investment. Even then, I'd have 10k for next expansion though and that sounds fine.
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Why do people say blood sucks if aggro bats is master worthy?
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>>168856785
He can play something like discard dragonewt with 40% winrate and stay at rank A forever.
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>>168856785
I-I g-got to masters in 1.2k wins.
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>>168856689
They get greedy and wait for a post Daria Levi to evolve
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>>168856785
He's inflating dorothy winrate and dragon loss rate so it get's nerfed and dragon get's buffed
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I'm sorry, dirtbros, I had to resort to roaches to recover from a tilt.
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>>168856953
Every craft has a masters worthy deck.
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>>168857017
Isn't majority of them drop levi at 4/5, evolve slap your weak ass follower, then followed by 1-2 piercing runes, then crimson another, then drop Daria?
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almost got memed
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>>168857159
Should have conceded for him desu, the guy seems to really want his Flame&Glass.
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>>168856953
you can lose more games than you win and still hit masters
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why is sword so bad
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I'm trying to run a midrange sword,what should I add or remove?

Is Olivia a viable addition or should I go for otomeme?
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>>168857159
>4 turns saving a fuck evo to end up having lethal without it anyways
I fucking hate people like you.
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I just crafted 3 garudas, is garuda storm worth?
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>>168857368
Git gud
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>>168857017
>They get greedy
That's why they're bad.
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>>168857492
i don't play sword, it's just that i never lose to it
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>>168857481
Shouldn't you have asked before crafting?
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>>168856546
I never had aurelia alive for more than 1 turn against daria. If she stick for more than 1 turn against any matchup it's an instawin already.
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>>168857405
My deck is similar to your except with -2 Fangblades and -1 Jeno and +1 Olivia and +1 Alwida's and +1 Tsubaki. Been working well.
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>>168857074
>13k to hit 1k top players
>tfw still at 2.6k
I'm not going to make it am I?
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>>168857405
Honestly, think twice about Cyclone.
I'm literally on the verge of cutting it on my control list because it barely sees any use.
Disregard this if you play versus people who leaves board up for no reason
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>>168857569
oops
>>
I'm ashamed to say that the only reason I'm downloading the game right now is because Kripp put up a video today that featured a cutesy vampire girl as his hero.
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>>168857663
You had like 9 days left and need more than 150 wins.
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>>168857440
why?
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>>168857716
I rely on Hamsablade, shit saved my ass couple of times especially when they drop Bahamut to wipeout my Bahamut.
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>>168857405
-2 Brick Lancers
+Alwidas and Olivia
If you have another Aurelia and Tsubaki you should try to fit them in.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/txpogg.webm
Only played this deck for a day and I already feel like cancer.
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>>168857837
What about tsubaki into cyclone blade? Since both can only be done on turn 7.
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>>168857885
>daria dshift
w-what
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>>168856697
Tried something like that before. Doesn't work. Here's why. Simplifying things for clarity.

To display the in-game portrait of a leader, the game has a file containing the sprites of the leader and a file containing the animations of the leader.
Every art asset has metadata attached to it.
The animation file has data about the name of its corresponding sprite file.

For example, Arisa's files could be
arisa_sprites.unity3d
arisa_animations.unity3d [data: arisa_sprites.unity3d]

and Nexus's files could be
nexus_sprites.unity3d
nexus_animations.unity3d [data: nexus_animations.unity3d]

So the way to swap Arisa out for Nexus is to rename Nexus's files to
nexus_sprites -> arisa_sprites.unity3d
nexus_sprites -> arisa_animations.unity3d [data: nexus_animations.unity3d]

See the problem? The nexus_sprites' data is wrong, and I don't know how to change it.
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>>168857885
What kind of meme deck is this
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>>168858085
Made a mistake. Should be

For example, Arisa's files could be
arisa_sprites.unity3d
arisa_animations.unity3d [data: arisa_sprites.unity3d]

and Nexus's files could be
nexus_sprites.unity3d
nexus_animations.unity3d [data: nexus_sprites.unity3d]

So the way to swap Arisa out for Nexus is to rename Nexus's files to
nexus_sprites -> arisa_sprites.unity3d
nexus_animations-> arisa_animations.unity3d [data: nexus_sprites.unity3d]
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>>168857663
No, not likely. It's something you have to keep up with for the whole month.
>>
How do I stop bitching out and being scared of board wipes as Daria? Just lost a game because of it.
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>>168858054
Tsubakiblade is ok, but I have only 1 Tsubaki so I have to rely on Hamsablade for easier board wipe.
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>>168858246
>as Daria
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>>168857759
On the bright side you get a good card game to play, sometimes life is alright, anon.
>>168857837
I hate Hamsablade. Requires a 2pp slot to work, Hamsa alone is strictly worse than any other 2 drop you would usually pack on curve and the clear only comes on turn 7, which is too late when it matters. I don't even run Bahamuts anymore because he's too slow versus Dragon, if I want mid to late removal might a well stick with Tsubaki, Fangblade and Odin.
>>168858054
Both require setup and a two card combo, usually if you need a clear you can't afford to drop an ambush follower and leave it untouched when everyone is evolving for board control.
>>168857805
>almost lost to a meme deck
>clearly due to lack of pressure
Really makes my Sky Knights prepare for battle.
>>
>>168856785
>>168856967
There was a famitsu article that did the calculation.
https://app.famitsu.com/20160824_814175/
Even if you took 1.5k games to hit masters from A0, you still would have a 60% winrate.
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>>168858246
Just understand that losing to board wipe is natural and all you can do is to push forward and hope they don't have their boardwipe at hand
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>>168858246
Just Themis it bro
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>>168857761
>>168858214
I just got to masters. Guess I'll wait for the next one.
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>>168858246
Daria is less fucked by wipes than like 75% of decks.
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>>168857405
You don't have enough ambush or the potential of a 0PP drop from Amelia for Cyclone Blade to realistically work any earlier than turn 8. Either cut them or work in more ways to enable it earlier.
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>>168858062
>>168858164
A deck that is mostly Dshift shenanigans, only relying on Daria for emergency card draw. AKA the Dshift deck to end all Dshift decks
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>>168858481
I can't read nip shit but do they even take win streak bonus and bonus points from beating higher ranked into account?
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>>168858598
I'm pretty new too. I was shocked to learn that they were doing another ranking reward thing so soon. Figured I should give it a shot.

It hasn't been as difficult as I figured it would be, but then, I've got plenty of time on my hands.
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>>168857759
All according to plan
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>>168857440
>>168858451
Sometimes you make plays that don't require evolving, so you end up not using it even if you have lethal without it. Like playing a jeno to clear followers. If you can clear it without using an evolve, then there's no reason to use it.
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>>168857857
1 Lancer then? May as well remove all of her.

I'm a diff guy. I'm the one who posted >>168845973

As you can tell I am pretty Ward heavy. What would you replace Lancer for?

After reading over what a lot of you said, I will probably remove Lucy for a third Alwida or Fangblade.
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Can I stop rerolling now?
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>>168857759
You should not be ashamed of it.
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>>168859045
>Oromeme, Pascale, Fairy Princess and Queen Vampire
Nope
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>>168858779
Just look at the picture bro. It's pretty obvious left is win percentage, right is total ranked wins. A0 to masters so no winstreak taken into account. I don't think they take bonus points from beating higher ranks, so it should just be the average.
Even if you took 3k games to get to masters, you still would have a 55% winrate.
>>
Can players on their phones play against players on their computers?
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>>168859045
Looks ok, but post golds.

Pascale and Fairy Princess are memes.
Otomeme is out of the meta.
Queen Vampire and Sahaquiel are for insanely expensive decks.
Olivia is a general Control tech, and Control decks are generally very expensive.
Daria is great.
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>>168859045
>3/7 usable
>keeping

keep rolling them dice son
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>>168859013
No, Blitz Lancer. Overkill with triple Jeno.
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>>168859045
Keep it except you're autistic.
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>>168859045
Not great, depends on your golds.
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>>168843092
Veight leader fucking when, Cygames?
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>>168859308
Yes.
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URIAS NO
URIAS STOP
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>>168859409
I don't like Jeno doe.

I used to run Blitz but she felt the same as running Ninja Stars half the time. She felt more like a 3 damage spell most of the time since she only has 2 Def so will trade with practically everything with 3 or less versus Naruto Stars which deal 4 and can be a good top deck late game if both sides are low on resources.
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>>168859502
Who wins?
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>>168859502
Draw?
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>>168859650
Turn player loses.
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>>168859650
Active player loses, which in this case is still Blood.
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>>168859607
>I don't like Jeno
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>>168859457
>>168859380
>>168859270
So the OP FAQs are out of date?
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>>168859814
JENO IS MEDIOCRE MY GUY
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>>168859856
Yes, slightly.
>>
What does a good saharamp build like?
>>
>>168859013
Why White Paladin over Floral?
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>>168859856
Fairy Princess, Otomeme, and Pascale aren't used anywhere right now.

Blood is shit in general right now, and cblood is extremely expensive.

Saha is also only used in super expensive decks, she won't be useful for a long time. Olivia is also more a control legend.

That leaves you with a Daria to try and build early decks with.
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>>168859856
The meta changed since that thing was updated, and nobody cares enough to update it more often than once every expansion.
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>>168860070
What's expensive about CBlood?
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>>168860191
3 Vamp Queens and some 6 minimum neutral legendaries.

Also 4 sets of golds iirc.
>>
>>168860191
Uses a ton of legends and golds. Budget replacements for the legends don't work out very well either.
>>
>I'm just a Mage
>who's going to wipe your entire board even if I have jack shit and you have 3 creatures
>;^)
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>>168860191
Queen Vamp, Revelation, Dire Bond, and Diabolic Drain are entirely necessary in 3x, and there tends to be other legends and golds included, such as Mary, Odin, Saha-Luci-Baha package, Temptress Vamp, and Righteous Devil.
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>enemy runeshitter used kaleidoscop 2 times when my amulet was at 1
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>>168859276
Well they should take it into account because winning for 150 and losing for only 70 make a huge difference. I made A0 to Masters in about 500 wins so by their calculation I should have an absurd 80% winrate or some shit but that's definitely not how I remember it. And I play Bannermeme (in DE) and Aggro Shadow, which some autists in here really like to shit on.
>>
>all this discussion about Sword made me want to try and build a mid-range deck again
Well, I guess I don't lose anything. I'm pretty comfy with my control list so having something else to experiment should be fun.
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>>168860862
Mid-sword is still good, it just tends to lean more towards control and aggro now.
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>>168860958
*than aggro
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>>168860842
You can't really take that into account because there's no way to predict how many above rank and below rank players you meet, so that's just a guideline.
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>dariafags can literally mill 15 cards from their deck with 3 eventually free cards
Why does this shit exist?
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>hit master
>dont even want to do my dailies anymore

I fell for the meme
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>>168860958
This. The control sword decks you mainly see now are actually midrange and not really control. You fight for board control and when you're ahead you go face. There is no stall for wincon, or rather your wincon is board advantage, which is what midrange is.
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>>168861291
>he can't win games in masters
How did you even get here in the first place when you're getting matched up with master players when climbing?
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If I Urd Saha will she give me another free neutral?
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>play dragon, lose to daria
>play cblood, lose to dshift
wow this game sure is fun
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>>168861478
I can win fine but whats the point of playing vs rune and forest all day
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>>168861527
>play dragon, lose to daria

What? Dragon is destroying Daria in tournament.
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>>168861524
No
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>>168861524
No, Urd only works with Storm and Last Word.
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>>168861572
You had to go through that your entire climb, you should've been used to it by now no? You can always do non-ranked dailies in unranked or t2.
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>>168860958
My problem with mid-range as it is is that now that Otohime is gone it lacks identity and feels like a budget control deck that just gimps itself for fun.
For instance, this is the list I put together just now.
And this is my control deck, dcfw
Now that mid-range can't pack 1pp drops without fucking itself because there's not enough pressure without Otohime/Sage this is literally my control deck with more four drops (that I'm probably adding there when I decide to ditch cyclone for good) and mentors, but without some strong late game cards in Odin, Frontguard and Olivia.
tl;dr I don't see the fucking point but I want to refine it anyway.
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Is roach 60% win rate yet?
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>>168861527
>Losing to Daria as Dragon.
You know DShift is a unfavored matchup unlike Daria which Dragon is good against.
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>>168861524
Yes
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Is this information here valid?

https://svspot.com/2017/01/25/competitive-deck-guide-for-beginners-and-f2p-players/
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>>168861291
Same bro, it feels so empty now that there's no goal to work towards anymore, and I don't want to grind for ranking rewards either because climbing is hell. At least I can play meme decks in peace now but they are not really as fun as I expected them to be.
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Can I get a win?
23125
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>>168861773
>floral

literally c1 decklist.
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>>168862076
Yes
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>>168862165
>he doesn't climb with meme decks
That's the whole point of getting to masters. You just play meme decks in ranked and if you gain points, it's a bonus.
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>>168862323
>floral is bad meme
kek
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>>168862323
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>>168862076
Generally yes. Dshit is terrible for low ranks, where everyone is aggro though. You can add a Face Dragon deck as a relatively cheap and effective Dragon deck to start with.
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>>168862476
>play fun deck
>die by turn 5 90% of the time from the same 2 decks
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>>168862076
Yeah generally
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>>168862569
Sandbagging and then winning against retards with fun decks because they misplayed is worse imo.
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>>168862546
Dshift is just a worse OTK elf anyway.
Gobbus draw your wincons as elf way more consistently than Merlin ever did with dshift, and that's even on top of tons of draw crammed into the deck to make sure you actually draw dshift.
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>turn 2 dragonewt scholar
what did he mean by this
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>>168862479
>kek

Kys.
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>>168861773
The problem is true mid-range died thanks to Daria and massive amounts of board clear. For instance I've made Tempo Forest work for me again, but it went much more control heavy than the older DE Tempo or 'Tempo that's just Roach OTK with the Goblins swapped with Cynthia'. It sucks, but anything that relies on keeping a board up past turn 4 to be good is useless right now.
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>>168862861
>dragonewt scholar
Shame the best waifu had to be wasted on the word card
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>>168862904
>Kys.
kek
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Guys, I'm about to commit all my vials into Ramp Dragon. Please tell me I'm not making a mistake. I want a non-meme dragon deck to play with.
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>>168863098
Don't fell for the meme.
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>>168863098
>>168839862
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>>168863098
>non meme
>dragon deck
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>tfw when I fell for the dragon meme
Man, this craft is fucking awful. Your aggro doesn't beat sword, forest, blood or rune and your ramp is still inconsistent as fuck against dshift, seraph, control shadow and sword. What is even the point of maining dragoncraft besides autism if almost every deck is better?
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>>168863098
At least wait until mid next month
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>>168863319
>wait until the new expansion is almost here so when you craft your deck you'll have half a month to play it till it gets powercreeped
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>>168863098
Dragon is tier 1. What could go wrong?
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>>168863098
Stop anon, you'll never hear the dragon's roar.
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>>168863260
Cause sahabutt is cute.
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what deck is currently the most fun to play
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is there a better silver bloodcraft card than alucard?
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>>168862989
>The problem is true mid-range died
I guess this is my main problem with this expansion so far. I don't get why make so difficult to control the board from turn 5 and onwards. I'm yet to seriously try and refine a tempo list but I assume it will rely heavily on Liza stopping bullshit from happening more than anything else.
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>>168863559
>>168863209
>>168863227
>>168863242
>>168863260
Don't listen to these faggots, Dragon is tier 1.
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>>168863847

try this:

>>168863098
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Do you guys know why this game will never kill HS?

Cause its matchmaking system/algorithm whatever is fucking rigged as shit

Don't try to deny it now
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Which decktype has the best waifus?
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>>168864131
Anon, use the doll to point where daria touched you
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>>168863953
Liza is hilarious when Dragon recklessly spends their turn 5 playing Fervor, thinking they'll be just Breath your board next turn. Also great to play just before Rune evo turns.
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>faced roach 3 times already on my way to C0
Yeah fuck daria amirite
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>>168864154
It depends on your taste
Sword has maids,knights and armored waifus
Blood has vampires and demons (semen)
Haven has nuns and religious waifus
Forest has elves and fairies waifus
Dragon has dragon girls waifus
Shadow has necromancy and dead waifus
Rune has mage girls waifus
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>>168864131
Just stop being matched as Control against DShift, bro.
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>>168864131
>play chemo
>aggro sword and bats that all 5 kill you unless you have perfect draws
>play roach
>elana sun and control shadowfags with hella wards
>play daria
>+10k exp
Yeah I know.
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>since the announcement, forest and rune usage skyrocketed over the month
>cygames will still carpet it as a "It's a balanced meta" argument

There is no shame in playing fotm when everyone else does it.
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>>168864131
No one cares about beating HS though? And it's already more popular than HS in japan which is all that matters.
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my kingdom for a concede vær så snill

ID 22596
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jeez, how many times to I have to reroll for usable forestcraft legendaries?
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>>168864346
>>168864346
>recklessly spends their turn 5 playing Fervor
Sometimes they don't have a choice because the rest of their hand are bricks.
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>>168864131
I don't care if this game can't beat HS. My mental stability isn't constantly tested in this game. How anyone thinks they can focus competitively in a game with so much rng is just baffling.
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>>168864131
shitters say the same thing about that game though
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>>168865041
>implying their entire deck isn't made of bricks
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>>168864945
ty ty
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Anyone have that site for the card soundbytes?
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>>168865173
Isn't it on OP?
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>>168863929
summon 2 bats
wardrobe raider
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>>168865067

>turn 4-5 5/5 with multple 3/4s

It's close to HS tier nowadays. Fuck diarrhea.
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>>168865038
rerolling is totall RNG anon.

That said, if you have 1 ancient elf/tia and others 3 leggos it's safe, you just liquify the shit after and open the packs.
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>>168865146
That's what I meant bro.
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>>168865341
Daria is absolutely disgusting but at least the followers they vomit onto the field are cards that they put into their deck. You don't lose because a card generated another random card and that card generated the exact card they needed to beat you.
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>>168865501
backpedal some more retard.
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>>168865067

>implying

See how well you hold up when you're playing aggro and you see a fairy beast drop.
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>>168865067
I never played HS, how is it possibly more RNG than this?
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>>168865295
Oh, I'm an idiot. Thank you.
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>>168865978
You can generate cards that aren't in your deck or your opponents deck.
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>>168865963
>they bounce the fairy beast
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>>168865689
What are you so mad for? I'm agreeing with you.
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today i odin'd 2 sacred pleas
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>>168865978
>Cabalist's Tome
>Add 3 random mage spells to your hand

>Swashburglar
>Add a card from your opponent's class to your hand

>Ragnaros
>Erasmus but it can randomly target the leader too

>Lightning Storm
>Deal 2 OR 3 damage to all enemy minions

There's so much more and these are all cards played in top tier tournament and ladder decks
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>>168866228
and then lost to seraph lapis
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>>168865978
Imagine if you were playing against seraph haven and then suddenly, they drop an albert and burst your from 10 or if you were playing against dragon and then a mordecai gets dropped down. It's pretty stupid when you can't play around what your opponent could have.
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>>168865978
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Discover
>Discover is an ability that allows the player to choose from three different pseudo-randomly selected cards, with the chosen option generated and added to their hand

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Ancient_Shade
> Shuffle an 'Ancient Curse' into your deck that deals 7 damage to you when drawn.


http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Summoning_Stone
>Whenever you cast a spell, summon a random minion of the same Cost.

Should i go on? RNG's in shadowverse is most of the time controllable, just imagine if someone casted a DoD and summoned a 5pp follower on the board
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hey friends are these any good?
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>>168865978

Well let's start with some staple cards since forever that I know about.

>Knife Juggler

Archer's effect basically, except its also prone to hitting face meaning the effect is capable of whiffing completely (and it does)

>Ragnoros

Same effect as Eramus, but he also hits face, mean it whiffs as well.

These are standard card that have been around since the beginning. Not too crazy or unreasonable. Now you have the discover mechanic where you select one of three random cards from the ENTIRE library including sets that were rotated out.

They also introduced portals, that just summon a random follower from the entire library.
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What
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>>168866326
nah, it was elana
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>>168865963
>Fairy Beast
oh my sweet summer child
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>>168866307
>not mentioning skill portal
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>>168866539
This card should exist in SV
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>>168866478
and here are the legendaries
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>>168866642
Honesly wouldn't be as bad since the health pool is 10 points lower than HS and the decks are 10 cards higher. Plus no Life Tap.
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>>168866649
reroll
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>>168866642
I wonder which class would be the most viable with reno

>>168866649
your golds arent the best but you got 2 odins, neph and olivia.
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concede me pls 23955
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Are there any canon slut cards besides the demon/ghost succubi?
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>>168865978
There's a card that deals 5 damage to any enemy including the enemy leader and it produces a random 5 pp follower from any class in the whole game.

Imagine Runecraft bursting down your most valuable minion with that spell and getting a Goblinmount Demon that they would normally never run but they have it now, and since it's summoned like that, its opening effect doesn't go off so no downside at all.
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>>168866484
Discover is format dependent. If you are playing standard you can only discover standard-legal cards.

Ancient shade and summoning stone have never been in a competitive deck. Not saying the RNG isn't more prevalent but if you want a more recent example look at something like babbling book.
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>>168866560
>deal 5 damage, summon a random 5-cost minion
>there's a 5-cost 2/2 minion that deals 5 damage to your own face when it dies
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>>168866845
Vampire Princess
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>>168866840
ty vampy
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>Not playing Odin in Forest to completely, utterly annihilate any Seraph that crosses your path

Do you want to meme in Valhalla or not, /svg/ ?
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>>168866879
>5 pp follower from any class in the whole game.
I'm pretty sure that's only the case if you're playing their eternal format. If you are playing standard all "random" effects that create cards or summon creatures will pull from a pull of standard-legal cards.
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>>168866765
>>168866839
my thinking was that cos Odin's a neutral he could go into any deck plus Nephthys might be good for card draw. oh well, appreciate the input. a reroll it is :(
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>>168867125
Roach usually wins before turn 8 anyway
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>>168866934
Firelands portal is 7 mana, mage only, and can also target players.
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>>168867232
I'm the anon that talked about the 2 odins.

I WOULDNT reccomend rerolling, Odin is a straple card in many control decks and nephts has its own deck. Olivia is also a great card too.

You can always liquify the crap you have and the games gives you tons of rupies anyway
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>>168867207
So? It's not like the number of cards in their Standard format is small.
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>>168867321
I was just pointing out that the rng can completely screw the mage and give them a shit minion that burns their own face. yet you still play the card for the chance it doesn't.
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>>168867541
The fact that the chance exists AT ALL is AWFUL.

I don't think anyone even fucking mentioned Yogg-Saron yet!
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>>168867349
I'm just pointing out what you said was incorrect.
Yeah the RNG is still there but it's always going to be significantly smaller than "the whole game".
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>opponent has 3 carrots on the board
>Bahamut all of them
>they keep coming back
>have no way to get around these damn carrots
>already used up all my Salamanders
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>>168866917
>Discover is format dependent. If you are playing standard you can only discover standard-legal cards.


So? You're still having an option to get either good cards or a card that you totally need in that situation or 1 turn later. The format isn't small either.

>Ancient shade and summoning stone have never been in a competitive deck. Not saying the RNG isn't more prevalent but if you want a more recent example look at something like babbling book.

The The League of Explorers was the last set that i saw in HS before quitting, so that's what came in mind. babbling book is even more ridiculous
>>
Can you fuckers talking about HS fuck off back to your own general, no one gives a shit about that game here.
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>>168867343
okay I'll take your tip and keep the cards then, thanks senpaiI ^_^
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I need one win to finish my quests and I can't draw good cards. Why does this shit happen every day?
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>>168867772
if you consistently cant draw good cards its time to fix your deck
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>>168867638
Just play satan anon.
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>>168867772
Rope in an unranked match and hope the other player leaves. It's what I do when desperate.
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>>168867638
Where's your Dragoon bro?
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>>168867614
KEK, you were'nt kidding

>>168867743
NP
>>
26325

Can someone concede please
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>>168867727
>heh SV will never be as good as HS
>not true, here are several reasons why
>UGH just shut uuupppp
you're the third one
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>>168867232
Odin and Olivia can fit in every Control deck and also on Ramp. Nepthys is for "Control" Shadow. White Wolf is for Wolfbolt or Wolfcoming Roach. Dragoon is for meme Discard Dragon or as a tech finisher in Ramp.
The problem is that those decks are way too expensive for a new player, so keeping this roll as a starting player is the same as not pulling any legendaries. They are not bad pulls, they are just bad when you are starting. You CAN keep the roll, but you are better off getting a roll with Legendaries that allow you to make cheap (20k-15k vials or less) decks and then crafting those Legendaries later on.
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>>168867971
Thanks French rowen
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>>168868031
What? Everyone here is just listing the most stupid RNG cards of HS because that anon asked.
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>>168867945
>KEK, you were'nt kidding
Damn right I wasn't kidding, that piece of garbage took half a year and several tournaments before it saw a nerf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9WIGYX1t1M

You don't know despair until you go through loss after loss after loss of having games STOLEN from you because of a topdecked Yogg. Daria is NOTHING in comparison.
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>>168867232
Nigga don't reroll that.
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>>168867923
The fuck is "roping"?
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Would you rather have a mod replacing Isabelle with Anne or a mod with a better version of nude Vampy?
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>>168868151
>the spell is longer than the turn duration

Who thought this was a good idea.
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>>168868151
But it targets random things. The opponent is just as likely to get fucked as you.
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>>168868475
Anne pls
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>>168867845
It's a roach deck missing a few cards but I wasn't pulling any of my cycle or combo pieces.
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>>168868549
Yes, so who wins is entirely up to luck.
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>>168868151
Actually fuck all those casual game Yoggs, here's a bunch from an actual tournament (where everyone ran Yogg because it was basically "Turn every game into a coin flip if you're losing" card), money was on the line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1A_tSsDiM
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>>168868475
The former, nude mosts are always stupid for me.

beachwear mods when?
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Anyone have a good dirt rune list with little to no legendaries? I don't have Pascal or Olivia which are the only ones I see used in dirt.
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>>168868475
replace isabelle with daria
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>t4
>have 4/4 ancient elf
>4/5 princess
>two faeries
>opponent doesn't have jack shit
>levi kills my elf and he burns my elf with sorcery + blade
>two witchlets and 2 more blade mages
>kills my faeries
>what the fuck
>has a single card left
>i evo feena and double sylvan the witches to stop the bleeding
>darias and vomits hand again
JUST
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>>168868549
THAT'S A BAD THING WHEN THE VARIABLES ARE SO HUGE DON'T YOU DARE DEFEND THIS SHIT CAN'T YOU SEE HOW THIS SETS ME OFF, LIKE, LIKE, THAT PART OF THE GUN, THAT SETS IT OFF
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>>168868549
>Blizzard's coin flip simulator
>average cost to be competitive: $250+

>IRL coin flip simulator
>max cost to be competitive: 25 cents

see the problem?
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>>168868031
I'm not even part of your stupid discussion you nigger, fuck off back to your shitty game and stay there.
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>>168868549
And that's supposed to be positive?
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>>168868879
>he mains quarters
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>>168868475
Do you have that imgur album? Also, I'd have to see the new Vampy. Honestly the one you showed was pretty lackluster.
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>>168868475
Nude Vampy
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>>168868879
Anon, a coinflip has 2 results at least.
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Pulled a fourth Daria.

Should I liquify or is there a chance it will get nerfed?
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>>168868685
>Yogg casts a spell that puts a random follower in your hand

>The random follower is from a new expansion that isn't tournament-legal because it came out too close to the tournament
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>playing roach vs neutralcraft rowen
>he drops bahamut
>been playing defensive with tia and elf all game so dont have roach combo
>drop all my shit anyways leaving him at 2 hp
>his turn now, hes thinking
>starts spamming "sorry"
>makes me think he has salamander or something
>he dod a roach putting me at 13 hp
>thinks some more and realizes he still cant go face
>"t-there's no one else i'd rather lose to!"
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>>168868475
Anne. Nude shit is just dumb.
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>>168869098
Do you need 1k vials right now?
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>>168868893
don't worry anon, unlike reddit, this thread will be purged from the site within the hour and you can forget we ever had a discussion you didn't like. you'll feel better soon.

also, nice use of expletives, you're really blending in!
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>>168868723
this

Daria is a qt
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>general is full of HS
I knew everyone was a HS refugee.
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>>168868549
That's the problem, you didn't play Yogg when you were winning (unless you are just playing for fun), you played Yogg when you were going to lose and there was no other play, so it didn't matter if Yogg screwed you over since you were going to lose anyway, but there was a chance that you could make a comeback by getting a lucky Yogg, it was bullshit because it could win lost games with pure luck, it felt like shit and seeing it being played in a competitive setting was depressing.
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>>168868475
School swimsuit for isabelle/eris, micro bikini for luna/vampy
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>>168869268
this is exactly why they nerfed it to a degree where it no longer sees regular competitive play

it baffles me that people can still complain about yogg in the year of our lord 2017
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>>168869219
>implying I even go to reddit
Fuck off nigger, this isn't your safe space, you can jolly well fuck off back to your dying general and play your shit game.
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>>168869132
Following by losing connection and wasting 90 seconds of your life?
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finally after 26 packs i get a lego, not what i wanted at all but at least i can stop buying trash de packs now
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>>168869219
>posting HS discussion
>in another game's general
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Why aren't you playing Neptits right now?
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>>168868151
>Daria is NOTHING in comparison.
Daria is worse IMO. Even having played at the height of Yogg it wasn't nearly to the point where you would go "loss after loss" of having games stolen (If you define "stolen" as losing when you had an otherwise insurmountable advantage).

Losing to a Daria going off on turn 4 is a much more consistent and frequent occurrence. You're never going to see a highlight reel of it though cause it'd be fucking boring. The difference is losing one game that you had in the bag probably left a much more bitter taste in your mouth than losing several games to Daria.

Also I'm not playing apologist for HS here. Most people who still play would probably say the game sucks even more now cause the Pirate shaman meta is basically Daria but worse.
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>>168869362
>it baffles me that people can still complain about yogg in the year of our lord 2017
It baffles me that anyone would bother to defend that card, the ultimate symbol of everything that makes HS bad.
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>>168869504
Post dick
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>>168869504
Because I refuse to craft an expansion lego until I've opened it.
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>>168869543
you are beating a dead horse
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>>168869362
>>168869543
It baffles me that anyone would even want to talk about that dying game that is becoming even more irrelevant as time goes on. /hsg/ removed from OP when?
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>just got Atomemed

Holy shit I didn't see that coming at all
I'm actually pretty stoked seeing someone pull it off.
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>Dirt (mysterious) rune has a 42% win-rate against OTK elf on Shadowlogs
How the fuck? That deck is chock-full of wards.
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>>168869543
I think most people would argue the 1PP 3/2 that summons a 1/1 with storm is worse than yogg.
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>>168869471
the forgotten king
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Today I found out I'm too dumb for Roach math
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>>168869262
Only shitters, and /gbfg/ irc faggots
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>>168869671
low hp wards that die to will of the forest.
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>>168869671
Much like other rune decks, dirt bricks 120% of the time
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>>168869671
Earthrune is really slow
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>>168869671
Probably a white wolf homecoming but I have no idea how the forest can survive that long.
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>>168869735
But OTK elf usually runs 1 and only sometimes 2 copies of that.
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>>168868438
Using all the time given to you in a turn. In hearthstone when you had less than 10 seconds remaining in your turn a lit rope would appear across your screen and once it burned all the way through the game would auto-end your turn.

I imagine most people still use the term since "timing out" doesn't really roll of the tongue.
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>>168869671
It can't produce them soon enough without running subpar cards that will lead to losing every other big matchup.
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>>168869516
No, Yogg is worse, and let me tell you why:

Daria is oppressive but it's predictable. They are always going to just flood the board. If you can possibly build a deck that controls the board that early, then you can beat Daria, because you only need to beat that effect: board floods and spell damage. Just those two things.

Yogg could be ANYTHING. You CAN'T play around it. The RNG extends all the way to the beginning of the match, to when you decided whether to hold minions or spells, because maybe Yogg clears the board and you needed to fill it back, or maybe Yogg fills the board and you need that board clear you used a couple turns ago, or maybe Yogg casts fifty secrets and fuck you for not putting a Secret Eater in your deck to counter a fucking DRUID.
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>>168869671
The wards are pretty easy to break through if he doesn't get enough 3/3's on the field fast enough.

You can brick pretty easily, too.
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Stop fucking talking about HS crap i don't fucking care
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>>168869671
If you think the deck is full of wards, you don't really know how the deck works.
The only "ward deck" that can counter Roach is CSword, and that's mainly thanks to Aurelia and Frontguard.
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>>168869671

Because you need to draw into the right amount of dirt and activator.
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>>168869631
I'm answering a question.
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>>168869475
from what i've seen of the hs general, half the thread is shadowverse shitposting
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>>168869671
The deck doesn't run Remi/Rami nor Apprentice anymore. It can't consistently generate wards early enough to deal with Roach.
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Do you guy think that Dwarf Alchemist would be too strong if it's Evo reduced the cost of the drawn card by 1 pp?
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>>168869504
no neps and all the vials i have now and in the future will be going towards completing my seraph and dshit decks

then by the time i finish them i'll be saving for the next expansion
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>>168870042
Timeless Witch is basically a 4PP ward. You don't need heavy wards against roach until t6+ and dirt can produce plenty at that point
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>dshift running 3 petrifys

What the fuck
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I need a Dragon deck for the upcoming event but I don't have any of the useful dragon legos. I guess I can make a face dragon but no forte. I'm pretty much stuck, can someone help me out please.
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>>168870086
no, look at piercing rune
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>>168868660
>>168868712
>>168869021
>>168869183
Looks like it's gonna be Anne.

>>168868723
Anne mod works because her pose in her card art is similar to Isabelle's.
Daria mod would require much more work because her pose doesn't match Isabelle's.

>>168868950
http://imgur.com/a/cTEkS
I haven't worked on Vampy after the release.
Mind telling me what you don't like about it?

>>168869312
A possibility later.
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>>168870227
"""OTK""" wildfang deck only needs golds
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>>168869871
>Yogg could be ANYTHING. You CAN'T play around it.

That's wrong though, Yogg costs 10 mana. You can kill a yogg deck before they can play it. The current HS meta would fucking eat yogg decks alive even it was pre-nerf. Even midrange decks back then could close games out before yogg got cast.

>If you can possibly build a deck that controls the board that early, then you can beat Daria,

Yeah, IF you could build that deck. Even if you're running the mirror if the other Daria goes off before you the game is over. There is a reason that the best strategy against Daria is "hope they brick".
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bricks every time
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>>168870363
>That's wrong though, Yogg costs 10 mana. You can kill a yogg deck before they can play it.
That has always been a bullshit argument and you know it, especially when the most popular Yogg varient was in Druid, which can ramp up to Yogg as early as turn 5.
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>>168870086

It'd be a significantly stronger card, that's for sure, since Taboo would be coming out on turn 5 or curse going out on 5.

Makes a big difference. If by any chance you're a cygames man, don't add more mana cheat to rune please. They have enough.
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>>168870439
Seriously, is it even worth teching against daria? I feel like you can just pray for them to brick and you'll be fine.
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>>168870443
If you ramped to a yogg on turn 5 you might have cast like 4-6 spells tops.

That's still nowhere near as common as Daria getting a decent hand.
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>>168870015
That just proves over half the general are hsg refugees.
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>>168870363
>If you can possibly build a deck that controls the board that early, then you can beat Daria
No you fucking cunt you can't build that deck. Daria decks have way too much value in them and you just hope "they have a bad draw."
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>>168870546
>If you ramped to a yogg on turn 5 you might have cast like 4-6 spells tops.
That's all you need at that point especially in the specific scenario that I'm talking about which is a Yogg, in a tournament that everyone watched, that ramped up that early against a zoo deck that relies entirely on building and holding momentum.
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>>168870279
Thanks for the link. The Vampy body doesn't match the style of the rest of the image. The Luna one looks perfect, probably because you took some of it from an official image. And the Isabelle, while a little rough in some areas, also matches. Having the nipples be more pink and soft, reducing the showing of the ribs, as well as softening the shading on the body in general, would go a long way to making it look more cartoony and stylized.
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>all these beginner ranks with almost constructed tier decks in T2
Really gets my noggin joggin
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>>168869871
>If you can possibly build a deck that controls the board that early
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Guess how he wins this turn.
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>>168870163
You need to prevent chip damage. It's not all about the combo. The more damage you take from random 1/1s, the easier it is for Roach to kill you once they've cleared your wards. Timeless is useful, but it's not enough. They will eventually just clear you wards and kill you, so you have to kill them while they are still dealing with them. The problem is that Dirt is terribly slow at killing their opponents.
CSword can deal with Roach through Wards because they have very fat and hard to remove wards (Aurelia, Frontguard), access to them since turn 2 (Lancer, Unica) and aggressive cards to push for lethal before the Roach can clear and kill you.
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>>168870227
I usually play this budget outdated dragon deck for dailies and it gets the job done most of the time, I only play it on unranked tho, so though luck if the event is ranked only, also, you could try replacing the Forte with a Gilgamesh or some early follower you could apply pressure with, sure the 2 mana difference is gigantic, but you can't expect to get a great deck if you don't put some vials into it.
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>>168870661
>be masters
>get a t2 ticket so do it
>go up against all these beginners who get the perfect curve and drop olivia turn 9 satan turn 10
>meanwhile you only drew one of your lengedaries/gold
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>>168870682
The point is such a hypothetical mystical deck exists in the realm of possibility.

The only counter to Yogg is to kill them before they use Yogg. Might as well say the only counter to Daria is to kill them before they use Daria.
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>>168870710
Enhance Albert into face.
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>>168870710
Daria -> 2x Blade Mage
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>>168870710
Magic missile into magic missile into rune.
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>>168870640
>it's bad cause I saw it in a tournament.

Gee, that rough buddy. It's not like Daria would ever ruin tournaments like that except every one since RoB.

>>168870776
>The point is such a hypothetical mystical deck exists in the realm of possibility.
Which doesn't exist at the moment.

>The only counter to Yogg is to kill them before they use Yogg.

Yogg isn't a fucking guaranteed win. There are plenty of games that don't end at yogg, they're just harder to find cause you're not gonna see them in highlight reels.
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>>168870710
>Selwyn
What the fuck
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>>168870710
Daria.
Insight
Blade Mage 2x
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>>168870959
>what is selwyn's command
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>>168870959
It's tempo, not OTK.
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>>168870959
Maybe he's a chuuni
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>>168870645
Thank you. I'll keep this in mind.
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>>168871097
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>>168870925
>wah but pure randomness is fine because it's NOT daria
See I can make vapid greentext that ignore the crux of the argument too.

Except in this case it's completely accurate. Yogg removed all decision making from the outcome of matches. The fact that you go "But it might be bad for the person who uses it" prove that you have missed the point.
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>>168870761
Thanks mate. The event can be done in unranked too so that'll do I think.
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>>168870959
What about Selwyn?
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>>168871189
Fuck you. You dare use my creation against me?
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I only have 2 Roaches and 2 Ancient Elves. Would a makeshift Roach OTK work with just that, or should I try to make a different Forest deck entirely?
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>>168864131
It'll never beat HS because people would eat Blizzard's shit on a stick. For every one "popular" streamer that gets bored of HS and tries SV, there's thousands of office workers who will keep playing HS.
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>>168871189
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I'm going to steal Vampy's panties
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>>168871404
Discordfag detected
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>>168871302
I don't really have anything against him. It's just so rare to see Selwyn leader.
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>>168871461
I haven't played the deck, but what I can say is that with Feena and Goblin Mage you're essentially still running 8 copies of roach. You're always going to have access to all your roaches, the question is how often will you lose because you didn't have three. I can't answer that.
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>>168871594
I only play male leaders.
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>>168871640
I understand Mordecai because he's super cool, but for what reason would you Selwyn/Latham/Gandalf?
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>on a streak
>game keeps making me go second
SUPERB CODING CYGAMES
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>>168871687
I don't play female characters on video games.
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Just made a jank dirt rune deck to complete some dailies and it was actually pretty fun. How badly am I gonna regret crafting an actual dirt deck instead of darias? I looked up some lists and they don't seem very expensive.
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>>168871640
True patrician.
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>>168871758
Only for dailies? Won't really regret it.
But if you don't have a deck for laddering already, assuming you want to, you will.
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>>168871687
If I cared I would use Gandalf when playing DS. Old wizard archetype that just comes out and fucks your shit up but needs time to charge up.
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>>168871640
>>168871754
Cat please.
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>>168871196
You can kill a yogg deck before it plays yogg, you saying you "saw a guy ramp a turn 5 yogg in a tourney once" doesn't refute that.

Even after a Yogg is cast you don't always lose, yogg can even backfire. Saying that a magic deck that doesn't exist right now counters Daria is fucking retarded.

I'm not even saying Yogg or HS RNG isn't bad. But you are trying to argue that Yogg "stealing" games was a common occurrence which is simply false, especially compared to the rate at which Daria wins right now.
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>>168871917
I don't play cats either.
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>>168871842
I don't have a ladder deck yet but I can't figure out what I wanna invest in. Also all my "dailies" decks are jank as fuck so I was thinking I should make actual decent, but budgeted, decks for each class so I could actually complete the missions.
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>50 points up
It's small but at least it is something
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Should I take any >5pp followers in Seraph? Soul Collector or Curate?
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MIGRATE:
>>168872228
>>168872228
>>168872228
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>>168872110
I like 1 satan as a back-up plan but you don't actually need anything over 5.
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>>168872110
Not really. If you put in anything I would put in Bahamut since it can be useful sometimes.
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>>168868879
>Not using a toonie
Poorfags get out.
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