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Hahaha i'm the worst craft edition

***Read this guide for the upcoming GranBlueF event: http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5 (embed)

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed)

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
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You're drinking at a bar when this meido slaps your girlfriend's ass and steals her pantsu. What do you do?
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>>168799757
what girlfriend
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>>168799757
Hire her.
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>>168799757
I punish her
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>>168799757
I force her to take responsibility and marry her then give her many chilluns
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>>168799757
face fuck
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I can't stand to play this game anymore, it's just Roach and Daria in Master. It was fun while it lasted, I guess.
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Hear the dragon roar !
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>lost to corean disco dragon
brb sudoku
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hey
its me
vania
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>>168799623
R8, M8, Mstrb8

>>168800006
Do dailies in unranked and wait it out then.
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>Win 4 games as haven
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>>168800018
Nice unga hand
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>>168799518
cause you're a dubcuck
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>>168800018
>only 2 copies of the alternate art

you're a cuck, face it. you don't love her enough
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>9 days left
>5.5k points to go
Can I do it?
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>>168800062
>implying it's any different in unranked
just forcing my self through it to get the 12k point sleeves
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>>168800062
>no Albert
Please don't post decks without best boy.
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>>168800190
>5.5k points to go
Until what?
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>>168800190
Yes but everyone is doing that.
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>>168800182
Not him but alt art forte sucks bro.
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>>168799665
Because it hard counters Ramp and there is a lot of it on recent tournaments?
It's definetely not because of Roach.
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>>168800182
not having different copies of your svfu so you can appreciate her different art style.no anon, you are the cuck
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>>168800062
why do you have so many gobus when you have barely anything interesting on 2? to find assassin for cursed general?
>>168800253
I know it does I just wanted to make him feel bad
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>>168800237
Feena sleeves
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How strong is the waifu game?
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>>168800190
>Can I win 6 games a day
Considering I won 4 with suicide blood god I hope so.

>>168800289
Yeah, finds assassins and finds maids who find general.
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>tfw
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>Fight against aggro blood
>He suddenly drops Bloody Mary
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>>168800289
>I know it does I just wanted to make him feel bad
Valiant effort, carry on brother.
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Rate me
I'm also thinking about making a roach deck but don't have ancient elves or roaches so it will take a while to get enough vials for them
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>>168800338
Apocalypse tier.

>>168800224
Sun satan then? Fuck man, I'm not your dad.

>>168800426
The best part of CBlood is the ol' dick in the popcorn box reveal.
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What decks are you guys going to run for each class for the upcoming event?

I need some budget inspiration, I barely have anything for shadow.
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>>168800389
>tfw missed ding dong sleeves
>tfw get triggered by mere sight of khawy sleeves reminding me of how broken that shit is
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>>168800278
I bet you like shorte too you faggot.
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>win 1 game as elf
>everyone running 9000 wards and draw no removal
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>>168800518
meta/10


You should make a SAha ramp :^)
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>>168800518
Needs a ramp storm dragon

>>168800572
You can slambang it out with shadow generators and shadow effects.

>>168800638
Run tempo and not give a fuck.
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>>168800389
>>168800573
>tfw missed ringon urd and otohime guard and they're never ever coming back with all the cards we have
Feels pretty bad man.
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>>168800518
0/10 censored tits
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>>168800572
Make a aggroshadow and put cursed soldier instead of cerberus i'm doing that too
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>>168800591
not him but the school girl forte with cowtits picture makes me diamonds
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>>168799819
>>168799786
Is 3 Forte, 2 Saha, 3 Lucifer, 2 Baha a good top-end? I'd be dropping 2 Satans and 1 Saha for Fortes
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>>168800389
I just want Liza and Otoguard sleeves

I hope cygames goes full jew and releases them for crystals at some point
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>>168800591

How can you say no to that lips?
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>>168800572
Forest: Nothing cause I have dick and don't understand them anyway for actually viable budget
Rune: Daria
Royal: Banner memes
Dragon: Ramp seacraft
Haven: Elana-seraph hybrid
Blood: Aggrobat cancer
Shadow: Midrange shadow

>>168800842
Pretty easily.
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>>168800842
>that potato face
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>>168800787
>Is 3 Forte, 2 Saha, 3 Lucifer, 2 Baha a good top-end?
Yes this can work but change if you think that you need something.
>2 satan
I would use at least 1
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>>168800278
forte is legally a midget
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>>168800754
RoB undid the uncensored tits and I didn't care enough to uncensor them again
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>>168800876
>seacraft
list? never heard of it
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How anyone likes shortstack Forte is beyond me.
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>>168800591
SHORTSTACKS ARE LOVE
SHORTSTACKS ARE LIFE
DORAFS ARE THE BEST THINGS EVER MADE
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>>168800842
>that lips
KYS ESL
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What am I supposed to pick there
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>>168801075
Ramp up and JO all over that board
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How anyone doesn't like every type of Forte is beyond me
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>>168800572

My standard aggro shadow
Roachbolt
PtP snowmen
OtK discard
Pure Seraph
Budget Aggro sword
Cblood, or Ablood
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>>168801238
I think it's pretty easy to understand fampai
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>>168801375
they need to make more than 2 megalorca cards. that deck could be sweet
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>>168801415
delicious fat tits
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>>168800572
Forest: Roach
Sword: Cobbled together aggro deck
Rune: Earth Rite
Dragon: Ramp Satan
Haven: Seraph with added Satan because I only have one Seraph
Blood: Cobbled together aggro
Shadow: Cobbled together aggro
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>>168801375
>demonic simulacrum
You've gone too far with the memes I'm calling the police
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Do discard effects still go off if your hand is empty?
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>>168801484
I know right?

>>168801552
He's won me a bunch of games this week. He's just so juicy.
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>>168800572
Forest: some shitty daily elf deck without ancient elves or even roaches
Rune: Dirt
Royal: Some shitty aggro sword without Albert
Dragon: Ramp Satan
Haven: Sun Guardian
Blood: Bats
Shadow: Nep
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>>168800572
Forest: Rose Queen, Aggro Roach if I don't have the time
Sword: Control Sword, Aggro Sword if I feel like it's not working out
Dragon: Saha ramp, might try out my old PolyRoar deck if I feel like it
Rune: Dirtrune, gonna test a lot of stuff out
Shadow: Aggroshadow, maybe Nep if I'll get 3rd Breath or 2nd Morde
Blood: Bats, my control blood needs a lot of work
Haven: SunSatan, SahaLucy edition

>tfw you almost have all the decks you ever wanted
Once I hit masters I'm gonna meme till I drop
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>>168801715
Any good resources on building dirt decks? I don't have the cards for a netdeck so I need more of an analysis and commentary incl. sigil:rite balance. Wanted to go conj force using snowmen and guardian golems as my win con.
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87571
Please concede.
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>>168802349
Thank you boob mage.
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>>168801640
Yes
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>>168802094
Sounds like you want to build more towards PtP since you want snowmen
Pic related is best of what I can remember of my PtP dirt list from week 1 of RoB
Experiment with it, that's the fun of it, but you probably want
1 extra Ancient Alch
1 extra Calamitous
Fiddle with the MagicMissile/Insight/Kaleido balance
Drop Piercing Runes

The idea is you stall with your insanely shadow efficient cards, and drop PtP around turn 7-9 depending on how things worked out.
Snowmen accelerate the PtP quite a lot, but they clog Merlin draws, so you might want to toss 1 out.
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>>168800572
Forest: roach with no elves
Sword: budget aggro
Rune: dirt
Dragon: memesong flute
Shadow: tyrant
Haven: seraph
Blood: going to have to use T2 or some shit
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>>168802094
I'm using this. The early drops are pretty much set. You have no other real choice for 5pp drop because there is literally no other 5pp option for dirt except for Pamela.
You can freely change 7-10 drops to whatever you like pretty much.
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HAHA YES I FINALLY DID IT

I BEAT THEM ALL, NOW I'M FINALLY FREE

Thank you to the roacher that missed lethal.
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>>168803418
Post dick.
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>>168803418
Deck?
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>against dirt as nep
>never draw nep, only 3 khawys and 2 mordes
>win by turn 15 anyways because runetits never drew a banish
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>>168803453
>>168803501

It's just a standard aggro shadow list, I tweaked with the 2-drop and 3-drop ratios, but that's about it.
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>>168803453
>>168803501
every aggro shadow list is the same 37 cards and then you pick 3 of Goblin Mage, Skeleton Knight, or Attendant
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>Trying to figure out how to salvage shit after I lose control of a game
>Give up, make my play and hope they have a sudden onset of parkinsons to save me
>Hit end turn
>They don't start playing
>It's clear i've lost connection for no reason
>tfw waiting for the you lose whiel the other guy thinks I ragequit
>90 seconds later, you lose!
Why cygames why...
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FUUUCK
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>>168804160
Best mission
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>>168804160
>he can't win 6 games
Just roach it :^)
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>>168804160
wtf? it's the best mission in the game
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>>168804160
kill yourself retard
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>>168804160
>he's a sandbagger
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>>168803978
Exact same thing kept happening to me with fighting games when my PS3 started to break down and shut off randomly during matches. Luckily no one ever sent me PMs over it.
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>>168803626
>Attendant
>Good in aggro
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>>168804160
>free pack
>points towards sleeves
I don't see the problem anon
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>>168804160

kys dumb fuck
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>>168804160
>When the mainyu draws 3 turns late
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>>168803626
>every aggro shadow list is the same 37 cards
t. never played aggro shadow
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>>168800572
Forest: Roach
Sword: Midrange
Rune: Daria
Dragon: unfinished Ramp Satan
Haven: Meme Eidolon

others are just shitty aggro
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>>168804473
holy mother of god those are some awful fucking card
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>Animated cards are this common
Im surprised
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>>168804160
>he doesn't get 5 wins streaks in ranked with Nep
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>>168804653
There's a small chance that your pack is 100% animated. You didn't get the jackpot, it's a random proc.
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>>168804653
>been playing for about 2 months
>got an all animated pack 3 times
>only 1 of them had a legendary
Who do I pray to for more animated packs with legendaries I want?
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>>168804691
>runecraft
Good job bru
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When's the next expansion?

Someone tell me so that I can liquefy Levi right now if it isn't this February.
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Boy shadowcraft sure is balanced
>Hurr triple Nephtys Mordecai have fun with your auto loss
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>>168804926
End of March.
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>there are people in this thread right now that still don't have the monthly sleeves, even though they want them, and will be desperately playing Ranked in the last two days like retards
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>>168804160
>complaining about a literal 100g worth mission
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>>168804940
>I've been doing nothing the whole match while this shadowfag masturbates to his 3 nephs
how about you play the game
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>>168802771
And I guess proof of concept
This turned out to be a ElanaSun deck I think
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>>168804653
>Wind god
>Wyrm spire
Do the deed

>>168804940
Control beats aggro/midrange, big surprise
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>>168804940
>he doesn't have odin
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>>168804560
post some lists then
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>>168804970
>event that makes you play a lot coming up

nah I'm not retarded
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>>168805126
Yeah let me run 3 odins and pull all 3 by the time Nepthys comes out

>>168805093
Yeah good thing that's possible when all your shit gets removed because there's no way to counter the amount of removal bullshit in this game unless you play aggro decks
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>>168804970
>Winning 120 games
Dude, too much give-a-shit for me. It turns into a chore.
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Weekly reminder that Cygames is making the same mistakes that Blizzard is.
Weekly reminder that Cygames is too proud to admit they're wrong despite having MtG Pros on their team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70x7OB_Ov0U&t=199s
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Onegai!
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>>168805106
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>>168805242
>mtg pros
>d-rank shitter climbing on babby's first netdeck cancer
Wonder who knows it better?
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>>168805261
Thank you
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Castle in the Sky + Otohime is great.

Prove me wrong.
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Does anyone have the picture with the emblems that we will get in the upcoming GBF event? p-pls
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>>168805345
I've climbed from Beginner to AA3 this month and right now he's right. The meta has completely warped around Daria.
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>>168804970
>tfw past the halfway point and i'm still only 6k
yes, i am headed there for best girl
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>>168805438
Castle + Alberto is better
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Deck size in this game is 10 cards too many

I've gone 4 games in a row without seeing any of my draw engines
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>>168805470
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>>168805491
You're not alone
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>>168805753
cerb emblem looks great
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>>168805826
Cerb looks great.
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>>168804970
fuck i totally forget about them. well to busy gettin good in for honor anyway
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>>168805753
is that jeanne? she's actually cute here. why is she so ugly in SV?
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>Spams removal
>Drops wards
>Princess, F&G
>Tribunal misses
>F&G+Gilgamesh
I feel violated

>>168805295
>Mulligan for emissary/oracle
>Play 2 oracles and an emissary
>Play spire
>Flood with low level shit using sieg's and chips to hold the board
>Drop a flute if you get it
>Counsel refills your hand while you run over them with 5/5, 4/3 rush
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>>168805753
thanks
it was in the pastebin as well, I'm a dumbass
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>>168805843
My dogwife.
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>>168805480
And it's been warping back as people who aren't netdecking shitters adapted to beat the shit out of them. Wow! It's almost like you have to do shit in a ccg!
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>>168806030
what do you actually use to counter daria when deckbuilding? heals and aoe?
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>>168806239
>what do you actually use to counter daria when deckbuilding?

your brain
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This entire expansion brought nothing but cancer

>Muh Daria
>Muh discard damage for all your health in one turn
>Muh 50 new decks that require 0 interactivity and are nothing but removal stall into win condition shit
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>>168805978
I want to breed this dog!
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>>168805898
You are ugly.
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>>168806239
Yes, draw heals and aoe tend to do the job
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>>168806328
>interactivity
>in a game where you can't do anything on your opponent's turn
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Cygames should do small changes to make the RNG more bearable.

> Mulliganing a card will never redraw a card with the same name.
> First player may mull 4 cards (incl. their first draw)
> You mull cards one by one, allowing you to redraw one card several times.
> Instead of drawing eight cards from a pack, you draw seven then keep one from 3 random silver-or-rarer cards of the same rarity
> If a card is spellboosted the spellboost animation can be seen on which cards by the opponent
> Watch as game becomes 10x more fun.
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>>168806446
What I mean is that they're decks where you just play single player all game. You literally don't care what the other deck is because the deck is just set up to give you an auto win if you survive to X turn.
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Why do people concede on the 1st turn on C0? I've been playing the game for 3days but haven't experienced things like this on the lower ranks and now they are everywhere.
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>Playing against Rune
>All my shit just gets removed by spells and Levi evolve shit all game
>Can never set up a board
>Finally set up a board
>Lol dimension shift
what am I supposed to do?
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>Start playing this
>There are actually beginners without fully optimized decks at my rank

Naisu, I was expecting to run into some masterlevel control deck over and over
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>>168806505
Sounds terrible.
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>>168806505
>DShift becomes Tier 0
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>>168806505
First point is acceptable, but the others might hurt the replayability too much. You want some randomness in a card game, as frustrating as it is.
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>>168806375
>being so ugly that cygames has to print alternative art for you and put you in the pre-built but you're actually shit as a card so you ruin the pre-built
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>>168806598
Because Quickblader is too fast for them to handle.
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>>168806375
This art is actually really nice, it's a shame the card is still bad.
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>>168806598
Sandbaggers. They stay in low ranks purposely for easy wins and score rewards.
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>>168806598
People are afraid o f going to grow-up guys so they try to stay in low rank conceding.
>>168806651
Everyone can reroll and the game is really generous at least low rank is full of garvage plays.
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>>168806791
I'm playing cancer Daria.
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>>168806754
>pre-built with the best emblem
>ruined
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>>168806885
well theres your answer
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>>168806446
Being able to do things on your opponents turn is stupid and goes against the concept of turns. Why not just make it real time and see who can solitaire their wincon the fastest?
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>tfw so many aggro shitters on ladder neutralcraft isn't even fun to play

bravo
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>>168806932
Well if I could make a T1 deck with 0 money they can do it too, and I could be playing D-shift or some basic shitty deck as well.

>>168806839
I see.

>>168807027
Are you retarded? Have you ever played MTG?
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I did it for you memevg
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>playing nep
>roacher uses homecoming twice
>never draw into death's breath
>get hit for 17 anyway
>no khawy heals
>still win
Get fucked you dumb knife ear.
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>>168807091
you'd be surprised how many people refuse to play whats best or most popular
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>>168807027
Almost every card game has mechanics that allow interactivity during the opponent's turn, even Hearthstone with Secrets.
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Don't bully Jeannu
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>>168806505
More like remove the fucking random target shit or at least give target immune immunity to random target too. Haven is insufferable to play against.

>>168806598
C's the last chance to sandbag so you can still play meme decks without getting bent over
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Is fighting cancer with cancer acceptable?
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>>168807202
I feel sick playing roach/daria/haven's removal/DShift. It's just so brutal to the other player
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>>168807226
She's the cutest after Forte.
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>>168807219
seems inevitable that such a thing would be introduced then
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>>168807091
A lot of people don't know about rerolling or don't check any place for guides or decklists. Also, not everyone looks to build the best deck asap, a lot of people pick a class they like and build a deck for it.
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Since Dshift keeps getting faster every expansion and can now stop you from having a turn 7 semi-reliably, will it be an aggro deck next expansion?
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>>168807330
You both need to kill yourselves

>>168807417
Hate people that don't read the pasta
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>>168807330
No.
Roach is 1st place in being cancer.
Tempo rune is 2nd.
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>>168807347
>Consorting with dragons
Literal heretic
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>Canadian daria player roping
Other people are literally cancer
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>>168807417
>there are people who don't inform themselves before starting any game

disgusting
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>>168807460
As long as they stop printing powerful and 1pp spells, dshift won't be any faster probably. It might become harder to kill if they print powerful cards like Levi though.
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>>168807540
>>168807473

Sorry ;_;
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Internet killed card games, software based CCGs double tapped it

Computers were a mistake
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>7 games in a row
>Have not seen any of my dire bonds
>have not seen any of my revelations
>have not seen any of my Temptress Vampires or Bahamuts
fuck this game
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>>168807876
Honest question, are you aware at all how bullshit your deck is?
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>>168807693
my only issue with daria is that its the most common deck. So if you play it, then your most common match-up will be the mirror, and mirrors are pretty coin-flippy.
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>>168807876
Repent and play Silver Wolf instead.
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Do the devs just want Haven to be the perpetual hard counter to shadow? How is a craft based around last words ever supposed to function vs a craft that has so much banish?
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>>168807553
Her troops ride on dragons too so she should be okay with them.
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>>168807934
ccg's were an extortion racket before and neither killed it, the complete inability of over a century of refusing to learn from the poor card design of those that came before killed it.
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>>168807987
Every single Forest deck is cancer.
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>>168807948
>>168807987

I just started playing and read this was the cheapest T1 deck. Started with a roach and forest elf and fleshed it out by buying 2 prebuilt decks.

This is a C1 rank match
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>>168807934
I thought it was card game companies that killed card games.
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>>168808124
your favorite craft is cancer
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>>168808161
Congrats, you've been completely dominated by cancer. Kill yourself before you spread it to others.
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>>168808124
What about rose queen forest, tempo forest, control forest, or non-roach combo forest?

>>168808072
Pretty much.
It's not, especially with how little you have to raise defense or heal.
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>>168808341
Every Forest deck plays Roach and AE. If you don't it's just because you are a hipster that is conciously neutering yourself.
Kys yourself elftumor
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>>168808161
Do whatever is fun anon, dont listen to salty faggots


Godspeed
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>>168808341
>Rose Queen Forest
Meme that never sees play. PtP Blood and Haven are more common, and those aren't even tier 3.
>Tempo Forest
Plays roach, pure cancer last format.
>Control Forest
Doesn't exist, made up bullshit.
>None roach combo
Such as? Silverbolt? It plays roach and its cancer.
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>>168800572
Blood: Control
Dragon: Ramp
Rune: D Shift
Haven: Elena
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Why are there so many retards lately that just missclick and skip their turn without spending play points
I see that shit everyday
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What's a fun, good deck?
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>Remove literally any single card from the Blood class
>All variants of Blood are practically identical, just slightly more shit. No one would fucking notice. at most the class might suffer 3% or so less success.
>Remove Roach, Daria, Levi, or Ancient Elf
>Their respective deck ceases to exist, because its carried entirely on the back of overpowered crutches.
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>>168808837
Roach
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>>168808918
Aggro isn't fun, anon.
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>>168809001
>roach is aggro
no
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>>168800572
Aggro Blood
Aggro Sword
Aggro Shadow
Daria Rune
Roach
OTK Dragon
Storm Haven
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>>168808915
Why wont you tech against it anon?
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>>168809101
Daria is also midrange but can outrace traditional aggro decks, the game is just really fucking fast now. Roach may as well be aggro.
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>>168808837
Snowman/conjuring force rune
Conjuring dirt rune
Conjuring ptp rune
Dragonbond/Magisa Reina Simalcrum Conj Force
Flame&Glass DShift
Dirt Rune
Flame&Glass guardian wall dirt rune

Ambush royal
Ambush Royal feat. Flame&Glass
Cursed general combo royal
Castle Arthur's Resolve Royal
Otomemes tempo royal

Saha Ramp dragon
Ramped pendant storm dragon
Overflow board flood disco draw dragon
Polyphonic Ramp
Pheonix roost Ramp
Fluted spire disco flood
JO dragon
JO Deathmist ramp dragon
Discard/JO dragon
Discard dragon
OTK Discard dragon
Ramped pendant ward flame&Glass dragon
Ramped grea-hydra boost dragon
Midrange boost dragon feat. Zirnitra
Cannot be attacked boost dragon
Megalorca Simalacrum Seacraft boost Dragon

Tyrant Lord Atomemes
Midrange Atomemes
Burial banquet Atomemes
Last word shadowcraft
Phantom Dragon Mid range

Non-Roach combo forest
Tempo Rose queen Forest
Festival control forest
Titania's tempo forest
Titania-Reina Simulacrum tempo forest

Soul Dealer vengeancecraft
Dark General, Azazel, laura-servant Control Blood
Laura Neutralcraft blood
Moriana Control Blood

Eido-Skullfam Count havencraft
Laelia defense Haven
Sun Satan Haven
Spell immune stat boost Haven

Reina-Simalacrum Neutralcraft
Well-spear boost Neutralcraft
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>>168809101
Roach is literally everything. There hasn't been a single fucking roachless Elf deck since the games inception. Every Elf deck is a roach deck, regardless of whether its OTK, aggro, or tempo.
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>>168808267
:(

>>168808527
Thanks Anon!
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>>168809246
Where can I find these decks you have named?
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>>168800572
what "upcoming event?"
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>>168809214
>Daria is also midrange
"tempo" daria is, but aggro daria i.e the variant with more burn and no fate's hand is aggro plain and simple
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>>168809335
They're pretty variable due to teching if yo uwant to be more proactive or reactive to the meta
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>>168809338
Granblue Collab
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>>168809338
Read the fucking OP.
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>>168809214
>, the game is just really fucking fast now.

It's for salaryman to have something to play during commute.
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>Deck plays Demonic Strike
>Not aggro
Fuck outta here.
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>>168809482
I can't use a deck if I don't know what the cards are, anon. I wouldn't ask if I knew.
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>I did it! I won!
>I did it! I won!
>I did it! I won!

>Nice marksmanship!
>Nice swordsmanship!

Are these people related or what.
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>>168809713
>JO Dragon is aggro
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>>168809771
Memes aren't real decks.
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>>168809746
Kys dubcuck
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>>168809848

t. just lost to a meme deck
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new player, got 9 legendaries on my first roll, no idea what deck i wanna play
Do I reroll? Or smelt these cards? I did get an animated Bahumut whose worth a lot
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>>168810006
Post your golds and legendaries
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>>168809956
>Implying JO is ever played outside unranked
Can't lose to it even if I had the worst of luck. All of you memers are cowards that stick to unranked, and only play Darias on ladder.
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>>168809736
They all name their core gimmick which gets its class specific support for its archetype or it's a tweak of existing meta decks. Some are up on gamepress, gameai, reddit, the forum, etc. what are you interested in?
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>>168810006
9 legendaries is a lot, if they aren't bad, you should keep

here is a vial list for golds and legs if you want some reference
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>>168810006
9 legendaries (1 being animated, being worth x2.5) is REALLY good. You shouldn't reroll that.
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>>168810113
Whatever I can get my hands on. More control orientated. People name sources but Reddit doesn't seem to have an actual list, all I can see is a thread with everyone just posting whatever the fuck in there. There's the Gamepress site, that's about all I can find.
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>>168810006
Post your legos and gold. We can't say anything before seeing what you got.
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>there are people who are ok with this
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>>168810161
A few of those can still be decent substitutes. Plus you can always make fun decks instead of meta shit
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>4 ranked victories daily
>play csword
>4 fucking dshift whores in a row
>you like cheating huh? Here's the cheat
>play Daria
>4 wins in a row
>dshit faggot dies on turn 5

This game is just fucking disgusting.

Purging rune as whole is the only viable solution.
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Why hasn't Daria been nerfed? I might as well be playing fucking memestone. Play on curve, get silly value, draw lucky and play Daria to refuel straight after spending all your resources on your ridiculous start. All-in shoud mean just that. The game shouldn't depend entirely on draws.
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>>168809910
>Don't call me short!
>NOW WHO'S TINY?
>Orihime's flavor text

Seriously what is up with tiny bitches in this game.
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>>168810462

Post deck
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>>168810449
This list is what isn't meta, not what you can 100% safely vial. As you said, some cards in the list shouldn't be vialed if you have nothing.
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>tfw you know the exact moment you threw in game 2
>a topdeck could have saved it but was 1 turn too late
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>ololol dshift
>ololol kawaii

Time to go back to aggro I guess.

Cheaters are feeling themselves again.
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>>168810069
>>168810161
>>168810187
>>168810324
Ok, I'll post em. I also got a Nepthys animated as well.
1/3
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>>168810161
Polyphonic roar's legit, especially until you pick up a forte set or saha-luci, you can ramp it out t6-7 and the windblast dragon's storms put pressure on them until you run over them. Grea and hydra are both strong win cons that play off of each other, leftover overstatted overflow effect followers or specials like leviathan/lightning behemoth/goblinmount and shapeshifters as you ramp them out in pairs turn after turn early in the game forcing them to answer or die again and again and again until their hand hemorrhages out. Orb dragon/Zirnitra are fine until you their stronger counterparts. Being able to fudge 1-3pp off of them while playing them 1-3 turns earlier or on curve with other powerful cards really shakes things up especially with serpent's force giving you a whopping 5 dmg reach on top of anything they underestimated. Shapeshift is strong when played with ramped win cons or polyphonic is up. They often can't go after everything letting you get 5-12 face if you've burned out their removal. They also fit snugly as pp filler value while you pop overflow as early as t5. It's too aggressive of vialing.
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>>168810550
Because DShift and Roach still exist, even if Daria is eliminated
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>>168810808
2/3
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>>168810614
Daria deck?

The usual stuff.
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>>168810550
Because fuck dshift solitaire. May as well nto even show up
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>>168811000
3/3
nice trips
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>>168810550
More like why hasn't the spellboost system been nerfed yet. Witch as a whole is fucked up. So is forest.

Either play one of the cheated decks or climb slowly and painful.
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>>168810808
>>168811000
>>168811183
This roll is really good, keep it. Follow the liquefying guide that this anon posted. >>168810161
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Please concede.

64170
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Which card has the best voice acting, and why is it Professor of Taboos?

>I'll save my daughter
>WHAT A FINE SPECIMEN
>COMMENCE EXPERIMENT
>THIS SACRILEGE WILL SAVE HER
>See you soon, my daughter
>>
I just realized.

The moment I stopped listening to you idiots, the more I won.

Tempo a Forest still works. Was able to climb from AA1-3 just a few hours ago easily.

Elf Girl Liza is so good.

Robin Hood is God vs Roachers.

You don't need Wind God. But you need a Cynthia still.
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>>168811416
Gotcha. Feels good not having to reroll.
Thanks guys!
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>>168811594
And how many of those wins were due to your own roaches?
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>>168811471
kys dubcuck
>>
>>168810808
>>168811000
>>168811183
Pretty good roll, keep. But the problem is you can't make a good cheap deck out of the bat without crafting 2 or 3 legs. I guess you can make a nep deck with 2 neps and 3 Mordecais but some anons might be able to give you a better advice.
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>>168811471
kys dubcuck
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>>168811471
The dub is generalky pretty bad, but this guy is one of those diamonds in the rough. I wish well-dubbed cards like him and Azazel showed up more often.
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>>168811464
Thanks
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>>168811704
Around 5 to 8?

I actually just brought out roaches without care. It boggled my opponents so bad on why it was happening. Liza and Cynthia saved the day. Robin kept roachers in check.
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>>168811471
>dubcucks
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>>168811594
Post dick
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>>168810971
I should remove Zirnitra, it saw some play. Polyphonic Roar is fine but Bahamut shits on it hardcore, but I guess Bahamut isn't that much of a threat at low ranks.

Shapeshift got powercreeped by Date Masamune. Grea and Hydra are fine cards, but there are better cards in a meta ramp dragon deck.

As I said to >>168810449, this list is what isn't meta, it isn't what you should vial. Many of the cards in the list are fine to run below A with great success. With that said, I'll remove Zirnitra and will make a note for Polyphonic, it's a strong finisher.
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>>168810582
Forte is also only 125cm
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>>168811972
Shorte =/= Forte.
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>>168811594
that's why you just do what works for you and don't listen to the parrots in this thread
>>
Is Shadow the worse craft right now? I thought Nep was supposed to save em
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>>168808161
>roach in c1
>daria in c1
rofl
>>
>4 taunts on board
>Dshift still OTKs on time
Love to play vs rune, always
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>>168811768
Right now, I have no idea what I want to build. I just plan to do story mode for every character, see what I like, and then smelt and build accordingly.
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>>168810582
>tiny bitches

literally kill yourself
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>>168812331
How is that surprising? People get T1 decks easily from rerolling or just liqufying their starting cards.
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>>168811471
He's the hard carry for the deck, so he had to deliver.

Garuda and Valhallan General are great too.
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>>168811471
I like this dude voice a lot too.
>HEAR ME, WARRIORS OF VALHALLA
>MY FISTS HOWL WITH DIVINE FORCE
>PURIFYING BLOW
They're so good they make me want to yell along him. The death line is bad though. For some reason they changed it to a single groan.
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>>168811014
This shit is disgusting
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>>168812270
Blood is, and then Shadow. Although Shadow is in a slightly better shape from DE since there isn't much Haven in ladder anymore.
>>
TSUKOME
S
U
K
O
M
E
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>>168812331
About one out of every five matches is a meta deck, the rest is janky stuff as you'd expect.
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>>168812570
>blood control
>shit

lmao
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Should I spend my vials or stockpile to the next expansion?
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>>168810249
Conjuring dirt rune's the usual dirt but you lean towards the spells more than the sigils. Play golems and snowmen, get conj out, drop guardian golems, use golem protection and twin guardian's to reinforce your wall. You can win con with pascale, ptp, the summon on spell + cantrips, reina, flame and glass, satan

Dirt rune's more dirt rune. Take satan for a good win con. There's no real list as it's a very flexible and strong deck with a lot of good choices to choose that affect how it goes. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/decks/runecraft

Ambush royal you use ambush followers, rogue's creed, and your tricks to boost up to lethal and kill. There's a bunch of lists up. gist is weather the storm, stall with commanders, and use shadowed assassin to clear the board then recloak

Most dragon is use 2 oracle and emissary to ramp up. Use a cavalier to further ramp what your emissary'd, then go for the jugular whether it's from value pendant, value roar, fast/combo'd/boosted storm
Fluted-spire, ramp up, get them out, spam hellfires, draw and spam hellfires, draw and spam hellfires

Atomeme, you either use cheap cards and cheap ghost producers or last word cards with atomeme then you just keep slinging out the atomemes until they ran out of of removal and die. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-atomy-shadowcraft-58-wins-out-80-matches-thanatos

Sun satan has a bunch of lists up. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/decks/havencraft
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>>168812570
But rune is fucking everywhere. Dshift annihilates everything but aggro shadow and daria beats every shadow deck anyway, just not as hard as dshift removes control from the game.

Shadow only looks good right now because it gets to bully dragon and blood sucks.
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>>168812414
Also don't craft anything before doing your newbie achievements which will you give you a total of 3400 golds.
First is you have to play 20 private match with different people. Just go to reddit(they have a megathread for this) and post your rooms code. You should be able to do it in 1-2 hours.
Second is defeating each elite AI. You most likely can't do this with default decks so you're gonna need a decent deck at least.
After completing the 20 private match you'll have 2000 more golds. Dump all of them to Bahamut packs. Don't waste your gold in standart packs, there are lot of trash there you can just craft what you need from there.
And just hope you'll get enough stuff to make a decent deck to defeat the elite AI's.
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>Daria floods the board
>All you can do is AoE to survive
>The last card in her hand was a Daria

You know what, clearly it's my fault for not playing aggro.
>>
>>168811849
>Azazel
First time I saw it was today on cat's stream, amazing voice lines + the effects on the 10 hp equalizer = I came
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>>168812749
do you want to craft any deck right now? then evaluate how important that is to you and go from there

if not then just hoard until the next expansion
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Waht did Cygames mean by this?
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>>168812936
Its literally a circle of bullying between all crafts besides Roach and Daria who bullies everyone.
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>>168812594
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>>168812987
I maybe made a few cards here and there by mistake but oh well. I'll do what you said anon.
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>>168812936
>it gets to bully dragon
only if the dragonfag doesn't draw odin
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>>168813375
It's not a problem if they were just silver or bronze.
>>
>when you just want to finish up missions with some budget decks but keep running into tier 0 decks like OTK roach and ramp dragon

why

why not play fucking ranked with those decks you niggers
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>tfw you played CBlood exclusively which makes you look like a shitter now that you have 700 ranked wins, but still only in AA1.
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>>168813474
I would say 65%+ winrate vs dragon at master is considered bullying.
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>>168813503
Yeah it was just a few bronzes to fuck around with Shadowcraft for a bit.
Luckily they seem to be staples so I didn't fuck up too bad.
So, my gold is best spent on Bahamut right? Thanks for helping out!
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>>168813597
>tfw you play aggro Shadow which everyone says is good but you have over 850 wins but still only in AA0
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>>168813252
Why is ding dong angel a meme?
>>
>>168813554
You know it's gonna be a bad day when you get dragon/shadow dailies.
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daily reminder to kill yourself if you play daria
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>>168810447
They're more interested in fellating themselves than any idea of "fair"

>>168811961
Date and Shapeshift are for two different things. Shapeshift's for, I played this 2, 4pp/7-8pp follower and now a shapeshift, can you take out both of them so I don't urd your shit in next turn. While date's for fuck your faggot baha/odin auto-includes and then here's a shapeshift cause git out cancer reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You have to have them first. They're not 4x/16x better. The ones who need the list are unlikely to have better.
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>>168813785
they look ugly even with tons of makeup
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>>168813785
>3DPD
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>>168813785
holy shit they're scarily ugly

delete this
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>>168813680
Yeah, it's by far the most powercreeped pack and nearly all of the cards in it are usable. Not to mention you'll also gain bunch of vials from extras since it's smaller compared to standart.
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>>168813897
>3/10 wouldnt bang
>*tips fedora*
>*scratches neckbeard*
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>>168812331
They're both cheap decks.
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>>168813897
The Liza cosplayer is kind of cute.
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>>168812331
>Only need 2400 vials
>You can reroll 2/3 legos which are all you need
Gee, I wonder why

>>168812749
Literally what the fuck do you expect beyond a general it depends on what you have, what you like, and what you want when you give us fucking nothing to work with???
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>>168813554
Anyone who's been playing more than a month can make that shit. And because they jsut want to get their dailies and go.
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Should Shadow just concede if you run into Haven? All of my good cards just get banished.
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I started this game right after the Bahamut expansion and I was wondering. Do they give free packs after the new expansion? Like did they give free RoB packs after the expansion?
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>>168810447
sure is fun watching a deck ignore notions such as tempo and pp resources right in your face
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>>168814054
>how dare you!
>*unsheahes katana*
>*protects honor of m'lady*
>*adjusts trilby*
>*sips fanta from wine glass to celebrate another victory over a vanquished troll*
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>>168814391
Yeah, there were bonus release packs for a month I think. We got free packs for the 7/14 million downloads I think. New years packs. Both launches of the last two had issues which resulted in free packs. Even if you're a bottom barrel shitter you should make 10 packs a week. If you get off your ass and read you should make about 25-30 packs a week.
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>>168813680
Actually, hold your Gold until you have some idea of what deck you want to craft, then buy packs that have the cards you need for that deck. Mindlessly dropping Gold in one pack without knowing what to build yet is not the best idea.
If you like Haven, for example, you should be dumping a lot of Gold on Darkness Evolved, not RoB.
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>>168814120
why so bitter anon?
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Why is he better than Luna?
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>>168814780
Gotcha. I'll ask again later when I find a few decks I enjoy. So far, Shadowcraft is pretty fun.
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>>168814852
he's luna's guardian along with cerb
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>>168814852
it's hard to go wrong with a skeleton
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>>168814871
literally the worst craft, reconsider your choice
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>>168814852
He's not
Any alt-leader that changes the leader from female to male is shit
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>>168815001
t. waifufag
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>>168815001
Kill yourself
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>>168814406
>Oracle is 2pp, gives you 0-7pp over a game
>Emissary is 2pp, gives you 1pp in a later turn
>Cavalier is 6pp for 2 pp in a later turn
>Levi+rune gives you 11dmg and 3pp reduction for 4pp
>Clarke is 3pp, gives you 0-12+pp immediately as well as a body on the board
Really spellboosts ur oglers

>>168814839
Should I not be bitter when you don't drop your collection stats so people can make an informed assessment of if you need signifantly benefit from rolling for core cards, should roll fore core cards from decks you're interested in, or if it's more value to just sit on it, hit the xpak hard, then make whatever you wanted from vials.
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>>168814994
The worst craft is Blood. Don't spread lies. Shadow is the second worst craft.
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>>168815081
>>168815109
found those players who wasted five packs worth of rupies on a shit alt leader
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>>168815001
Isabelle is super shit. Erasmus is pretty cool.

>>168815110
I'm not the guy you were replying to. Take a break from 4chan or your computer in general dude, just like 1 hour or something.
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What's the event coming up? I know nothing about it.
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>>168815001
this desu
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>>168814871
Shadow is not a good idea for beginners, unless you intend to invest everything into it. It has the most expensive aggro class, because it requires legendaries and 2 sets of golds (Cerbs, Howls, and Reapers), and to play anything else you need another 3 sets of golds (Tempest, Breath, and Mordecai) and probably more legends depending on what you plan to go for.
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>>168814871
All crafts have at least one deck that is at very least slightly viable, so ignore >>168814994 and play whatever you like.
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>>168815171
Blood control and even aggro is in a better place than any shadow deck.
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>>168815238
>Erasmus
>better
yeah no
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>>168815208
>Wasting rupies on alt leaders
Nice meme. You're the one to say, vampy shitter.
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The power difference between tier 1 and tier 2 is so insane this expansion. It used to be that tier 2 had weak matchups but still could generally hold their own. Now if you get dailies for a class whose best deck is tier 2 you may as well just reroll or be prepared to spend 2-3 hours on dailies.
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>>168815254
read the fucking OP you double nigger
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>>168815429
you're upset because vampy-chan is the best alt leader
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>le 11 damage combo

The only problem is that you never fucking draw howl or Cerberus when you fucking need them. I was literally topdecking for 5 turns because this shit craft has no storm followers or any normal burn damage.
I hate shadow "aggro" so much.
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>>168815358
No, it isn't. Control Blood is garbage. Aggro Blood is insanely easy to counter.
At least Aggro Shadow doesn't instantly lose to a turn 2 Unica and Nep Shadow hard counters Ramp without auto-losing to Roach, like CBlood, or Daria.
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>>168815417
The campaign completely ruined her for me. She's such a child and the derp eyes didn't do her any favors.
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>>168815436
I'd nigger their doubles.
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>>168815171
>Blood is worse than Shadow
>In a meta where shadow has no deck that beats Rune or Forest and is still vaporized by Haven
I beg your pardon
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>>168815648
play goblin mage and pray for a mummy
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>>168815417
Erasers is better if only because you distance yourself from the Davis try hards who infest the ladder and refuse to spend a penny on cosmetics that won't help them win.
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>>168815648
>crying because he lost to Control as Aggro.
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>>168815648
Play http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1487521835901.png
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>>168815358

>Blood control and even aggro is in a better place than any shadow deck.
>Cblood is super prone to roaching, and only convincingly counters retarded Darias who proc vengence without damage from hand to lethal next turn
>Aggro blood just crumbles to anti-Daria measures.

Whatever you say.
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>>168815635
>Vampy
>best at anything
She can't even go face right.
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WHY ISN'T HE ATTACKING ME
He just keeps hitting "End Turn"
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>>168815764
Blood has literally no playable deck.
Just look at yesterdays tournament. There wasn't a single Blood and a lot of Shadow.
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>>168815648
mummy/voices helps with that
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>>168815973
he is memeing you
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>>168815001
Knife ear, hag, and hag with tits are awful. Can't wait to replace them with Cammy, Juri, and Karin. Erika, Forte, Luna, and Vampy are great though.

For the males, it's easy as fuck to know the kind of person who uses them.

Patrician tier:-
Urias
Freedom bird
Rowen (doing it for Sugita)

Memer tier-
Rowen

Living Meme tier:-
Latham

Try hard closet homosexual who spouts "weeb" and "pedo" every other word:-
le spoopy skeleton cuck
Gandalf the gay

Literal homosexual tier:-
Knife ear (male)
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>>168815925
>Vampy can't unga bunga

i shiggily
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>20k Master using this version of aggro blood
is he onto something?
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>>168815973

Because DUELS HAVE NO END
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>>168815891
>>168815764
>>168815658
>>168815983
You guys are arguing over who sucks the most, it doesn't matter. Both classes fucking suck and the only reason Shadow is playable at all is because they hard counter Dragon.
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>>168816105
he is onto waifus
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>tfw people are fighting over whether Blood or Shadow is the new worst craft
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>>168815813
>Erasers
>Davis
For tucks sake phone.
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>>168816105
>>168816105
I'm not convinced by Midnight over Veight, but otherwise I'm a fan of every other card. People underrated Mastema and Word a lot, and I can respect not running Gobu when running all three 2-drops plus all three 1-drops.
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>>168816293
>craft made relevant by neutral cards

top fukken kek
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>every fucking one is playing neph shadow and dshift in ladder now

Time to play aggro blood again, huh?
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>>168816293
>new
Blood was at 5% playrate in vanilla when storm Dragon and aggro Shadow were tier 1. Blood always hovers around bottom 3, and always ends up the worst.
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>>168816203
>147 shadows
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>>168809746
>Kill Floral fencer
>MOOOO ITAI JANAI
>Kill Rabbit Necromancer
>MOOOO ITAI JANAI

?????
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>>168816457
In RoB, Dragon was the worst until people realized CBlood was bad and Ramp was good though.
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>>168816517
http://usamin.love/card/floral_fencer/j_death.wav
http://usamin.love/card/rabbit_necromancer/j_death.wav
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>take a short break from the game
>dragon is top-tier
>blood is bad
What the fuck did I miss?
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>>168816517
>using jp voices
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New to the game, wanna win with Shadow. What do I do? Also does ut look like it'll get more support in upcoming expansions?
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>>168816704
And now everything is playing shadow/dshift because of that.

lmao
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>>168816737
>not using jp voices
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>>168816737
kys dubcuck
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>>168816457
Its because vengeance is such a shit trait, especially in a meta with decks like OTK roach and ramp dragon.

They really, REALLY should make it like shadow, instead of cards going to the graveyard, every point of HP you lose is added to a pile.
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>>168816379
More like Neutral cards made relevant by best craft, amirite?
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1, 4, 7: buy DE packs
2, 5, 8: buy RoB packs
3, 6, 9: save the rupees
0: buy Mordecai
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>>168816767
>What do I do?
aggro and nep, mostly aggro if you're new
> Also does it look like it'll get more support in upcoming expansions?
nep will only get stronger the more last word options we get
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>>168816737
im a nip :^)
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>>168816683
Nothing changed, in DE aggro Dragon reached rank 1 and saw a lot of play due to decent match up against tempo Forest. Meanwhile, dumpster Blood was being dumpster Blood as usual. In vanilla, it was the worst class in the game by a country mile. Vengeance is a self defeating mechanic. Self damage isn't viable in a game with every class being capable of killing you from hand with from almost full health, let alone half.
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Seriously how are you supposed to deal with Nep as Dragon?
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CAN WE JUST FUCKING REMOVE KHAWY FROM THE GAME
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Been a while since I had someone ragequit on me
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>>168816767
Shadow is not at its best state right now, but it's still playable. You have Aggro Shadow and Nepthys Shadow as options, but they are not too cheap if you are just starting.
If you post your Shadow Golds/Legendaries, giving advice should be easier.
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>>168816879
The game is like fucking twice as fast now as it was in vanilla. Vengeance worked back then, not any more. Dshift used to not go off until like turn 9-10 and now we have hearthstone syndrome where cards that cost 8 or more are unplayable unless you ramp.
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>>168817052
Start by reading card descriptions.
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>>168816879

They could just say fuck printing vengence cards and just print more "when your health is lower than your opponent's" cards.

At least this expac take two isn't two horrible for them.
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>>168816293
What did dragon do so it's not shit anymore?
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Never did those private matches, someone want to rape me? I'll just keep passing turns
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>>168817209
see >>168817095

a little girl saved dragon
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>>168817052
You aren't. That deck has 70% winrate against Ramp Dragon. You are better off trying to fight DShift as CSword, literally.
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>>168817086
Remove Khawy and Shadow gets removed from the game. Stop being a baby and accept your deck has one bad matchup instead of bad matchups with nearly everything like the bad classes have.
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Wow, I... I can't even be angry at this. I just straight up got memed on

>>168817209
Saha ramp and discard drag happened
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>>168817209

They printed really good dragon cards, then realized that thematically they aren't dragon cards and just made them neutral instead.
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>>168816905
>mfw no matter what online game I play I always end up liking the worst classes in the game the most.
Here I only play Blood,dragon and shadow
Played the mmo Wakfu I played sacrier that where one of the worst classes in the game.
Seems like I just enjoy suffering.
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>>168817052
Lurching Corpse and Khway single handedly carry.
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>>168816905
Actually, yeah.
Can't Play Satan on turn 7 as Rune.
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>>168817086
Maybe you shouldn't have jumped on the Saha ramp bandwagon without thinking.
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>>168806754
uhhhh, no
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>>168817494
Yeah yeah. Shadow and MAYBE Daria rune if you get a bad hand are the only decks Saha ramp is weak against. See >>168817095 for proof it wrecks blood
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>>168817290
Build a suicide blood deck if you want to make it quicker.
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2/3/7/8 Nep or 2/4/7/8 Nep?
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>>168817329
>Remove Khawy and Shadow gets removed from the game.
control shadow does, but not aggro
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>>168817290
>roach deck
>daria flair

true cancer
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>>168817619
Saha ramp is literally tier 1 solely BECAUSE it beats daria, what the heck are you talking about
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>>168817669
2478 has better removal but 2378 has better survivability.
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>>168817619
Saha ramp shits on Daria you fucking retard. Its bad match ups are roach and D.Shift, like every other fucking control deck.
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>>168817778
>>168817928
I'm starting to see a more aggressive variant with stuff like blade mage and demonic strike where they try to dominate the mid-game before you can get your ramp going, at least with my deck anyway
>>
has a misplay ever saved your ass /svg/?
>play dirt, have 13 lp left
>opponent plays roach, 3lp left
>he topdecks a baha with no cards in hand
>i have a veteran alchemist, topdeck dwarf alchemist
>like a retard, i somehow play both, without playing the sigil and healing myself
>he topdecks another baha and drops it
>i topdeck ancient alchemist and thank god i didn't use the sigil from before
>he concedes after his draw and emoting 5 times.

dunno if this counts as a misplay though. maybe it was the right choice to keep the sigil anyway.
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>>168818101
>more aggressive variant with stuff like blade mage and demonic strike
nigga what? that's default daria
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>>168818101
>I'm starting to see a more aggressive variant with stuff like blade mage and demonic strike
Nigga what fucking rank are you? That's standard Daria in high ranks. Only B and A shitters run the trash with Fate Hands. The real Daria decks are the pure face bullshit with max burn, and that's what loses to Saha ramp. The B and A trench deck built by retard netdecking from gamepress are a none factor. They even fucking run garbage like Destroyers in those for fuck's sake.
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>>168818104
>opponent plays roach
>he topdecks a baha
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Play havencraft.
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>>168818806
Gotta clear dem wards.
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>>168818887
Not until they add a Moon leader.
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>win 1 Dragoncraft daily
>remember I have a decent 3-0 Dragoncraft in T2
>proceed to lose twice to perfect curve sword
>last T2 ticket and no Rowen
>cant pull anything for Saharamp
Has anyone been cucked harder?
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>>168818887
Post more Eris.
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>>168818806
If you're playing Wolf might as well go all the way.
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>>168818887
If they add alt costumes for leaders then maybe
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>>168818887
I already do I don't understand the Eris hate. Especially when the ones like vampy exist.
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>>168819336
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>>168817638
have no vials but I did what I could

67821

pls help
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>>168819336
I think it's time to organize my shadowverse folder, too many images in there now.
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>>168818806
>opponent plays roach
>you drop ward
>he uses silver bolt

There's no win situation against forest scum.

If you win you lucked out.
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>>168819464
Wolf only draws forest cards
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>>168819336
>mfw she'll never liberate me
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>>168815925
>Everything and its mother can remove or trade Vampy-chan
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>daria drop you to 1 hp and has no more cards in hand
>use zombie wards
>he topdecks a magic missle
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Saha ramp will dominate the world!
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Can I get a concede?

Thanks

77717
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Just Themis bro
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>>168819714
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>>168820061
Thanks Urias
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>>168820045
People are catching on.
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Post daily packs
Already have a playset of one of the queens.
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>>168820045
Those fucking nephs in ranked rustled my dragon jimmies.

Fuck Kawaii to hell.
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>>168820191
>>
Someone PLEASE give me a primer on how to play Daria. It's the only deck I have and I can't even get the feena sleeves because I can't play with it. I'm tired of everyone telling me the deck is cancer and easy wins when they can't even explain how it works, probably because they've never played it themselves.
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>>168820486
Do you really need directions on how to spellboost cards and drop followers?
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>>168820356
Take solace that they're losing to every other good deck just to counter yours
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10903
pls concede
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>>168820486
>hard mulligan for a daria turn 1
>spellboost all your shit into her
>play her on turn 4/5 after spellboosting the shit out of her
>win
it's literally one of the most auto-pilot decks in the game
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>>168799623
Is the guy who made the fake leader pack still around?

I'd love to take a stab at modding them into the game, and having your cutouts would make it easier.
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>>168820329
2 silvers 6 bronze, 40 packs so far and no leggo. I've already given up.
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>>168820603
The new neph deck actually is pretty convincing against everything but haven.
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>>168820639
>hard mulligan for daria

nah you hard mull for levi + piercing rune, but you don't throw away daria, insight most of the 2 drops/sugoi mahou
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>>168820486
>play spells
>Evolve levi + rune
>play 0 cost dudes
>hit face for retarded damage
>play Dorothy
>repeat until win by overwhelming your opponent with bullshit
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THE MOON DRIVES ME CRAZY
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>>168820486
Did you read the cards? Genuinely curious.
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>>168818887
I want to IMPREGNATE this priestess.
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>>168816704
>>168817209
Some guys meme'd so hard with a saha-luci-odin-baha neutralcraft deck as rowen in a tourney that the meme dream became t1 then netdeckers flooded to it

Blood was a collateral casualty from everyone teching to shit on daria/roach which was basically a better blood

>>168817052
Ramp a pendant(s), Queen serpent, Neptune, dragonsong flute, cheap overflow followers and draw, serpent's force/tamer, zirnitra to spread
Draconify and removal or odin the morde's
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>>168820759
>you hard mull for levi + piercing rune

Only if you go second.

If you go first mulligan for low pp drops.
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>>168820595
Look, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, that's why I'm asking for help. I'm only in A and have an abysmal win rate. If I could be more specific I would.

>>168820639
Everyone I've heard from says that you shouldn't hard mull for Daria though.

>>168820780
That's what everyone says, but it never works out that way for me. Maybe because I'm missing a Daria and a Levi, but I've gotten so far very easily without using a complete deck. I'm saving vials so I don't want to craft, I just want to know how I can do my best with what I have.
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>>168820723
Somehow I doubt a neph list exists that doesn't autolose to Dshift like every other variant.
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>>168820329
Got animated Disco Dragoon.
Got 3 of him now. I think the game is trying to tell me something.
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>>168820723
>new Neph
Explain.
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>>168820921
Is that Earth?
Her boobs aren't that big.
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>>168820486
>*Drop insight*
Ayo
>*Smash dat mf Craig*
hol' up
>*Aww yiss supahmin in da hizzay*
So u wuz sayin'
>*I'm jus' a magic man who's old as dirt and these mah homies!*
We 12k score 'n' sheeit???
>*With a bang and a boom!*
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>>168821009
Make that spicy deck right now.
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>>168820486
Your most key cards in the early game are Insight and Clarke. You should keep one of each in the opening hand if you get the option, and a Daria too if you happen into her. Other solid keeps are Craig, Conjure Golem, and Magic Missile. Levi and Piercing Rune are both somewhat risky to keep, especially going first, because they don't enable card flow, which is crucial to winning.
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Why do weenie aggro decks feel so good?

I thought I loved combo but something about spamming bats just feels incredible.
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>>168820486
find proper mulligan on the internet, that helps a lot. I guess it something like
insight+clarke/craig/golem if going first
add low cost removal and kaleido if second
keep daria if she appears and levi if going second
might be wrong though, i dont play rune
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What should I be mulliganing for as Roach against Daria? My winrate in this matchup is terrible
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>Just lost to fucking Oceancraft Dragon
I want to die.
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>>168820991
How the fuck did you get to A without being able to assess and cover your weak points?
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>>168820991
>Everyone I've heard from says that you shouldn't hard mull for Daria though.
That's correct. Just mulligan for stuff to play on curve. If Daria appears, keep her if you have ways to spellboost her, but don't hard mull for her.
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Is there anything in particular I can do as dshift to beat aggro shadow besides hope they brick? Shadowlog says it's 80-20 but I don't know what those 20% of games look like
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How the hell does Aggro Shadow even work? I went from playing an 85% winrate Nep to a 0% winrate Aggro.

I was just trying to get my last Shadow win in for my dailies real quick and im down 400 points.
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Thanks for the help with Daria, I think I'm doing a little better now. Though right now my two biggest problems are against dragon and haven because of their ramp and board wipes. The power of the deck seems to be in flooding the board and then replacing it after a board wipe with Daria, but if you don't have Daria, you're stuck playing lousy followers every turn while they remove them. You'll end up going too slow and letting them get their lategame wincons out. What do you do if you don't draw Daria in these situations? Just overextend and hope they don't have the wipe?
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>>168821598
It's some pretty raunchy T6 19-19/T7 23/24 board if you don't have board clear. Make's death's breath look like a parlor trick.

>>168821770
They brick hard as sin with an incomplete deck and no idea how to play it.
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>>168821669
You'll probably think I'm a scrub, I started playing at the end of DE and lucked into midrange sword with my initial packs. It was definitely less complicated than this deck. I also have aggro blood but I'm missing the Vanias in it.
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>>168821885
Turn 4 Daria is likely your best bet against these decks, because their board wipes are 6pp.
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>>168821594
just will of the forest dude
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>>168821854
Play Ceberus turn 5
Play ghost spam turn 6 with the doggos and an evo point

Otherwise you lose sorry.
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>>168821885
They're basically your counter. If you aren't going to tech against it, that's life. Pray to your kike overlords for the rng to let you aggro them before t6.
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>>168821594
sylvan justice
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>>168820486
>mulligan for Clark, Craig, Insight, and spellboost followers
>DO NOT tempo out Levi unless you absolutely have to
>Contrary to popular belief, don't play Daria if you still have burn, Blade Mages, and Levis in your hand, unless you are about to lose the board
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>>168822190
Thanks. What would be good tech? I have scopes and iceforms in my deck, I figure they could be replaced with snipes? What else is there that's good? I already have 3 demonic strikes.
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Post your animated sets.
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>>168822251
How do you know when holding on to something for combo is too greedy?
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>>168822506
Playing against roach, I don't think I've ever seen them use sylvan justice as part of their combo. You use it early to control the board and just use the fairy later.
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Hey guys, what's goin' on in this thread? I heard you like bangin' and boomin' so I thought I'd stop by.
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>>168821885
Are you playing Demonic Strike? Throw all of your burn at their face to keep them on their back foot.
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>>168822753
Go away, interdimensional hobo!
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>>168822504
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>>168823007
I'm no 'hobo', I assure you. My preferences are entirely for the opposite sex.
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>>168821854
You either hope for turn 5 cerberus into turn 6 phantom howl + doggos for lethal or pray you get a retarded shadow reaper at around 4-5PP.

It's not a very good deck outside of being good at countering certain things. Check out the Shadowlog page on it and you get a good idea of how certain matchups carry the win rate and make it look a lot better than it really is.
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>>168822835
Yeah, I have 3. Something I also realized just now in a mirror match was that I lost due to trying to control the board when going second. He ended up having Daria and I didn't, so my board control didn't matter. Do you just go face no matter what? Should you ever attack enemy followers?
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As a MtG player what I really miss in this kind of games are the instants. Hex has that kind of mechanic but I stopped playing for the dumb format that there was at the beginning. I don't know if now is any better.
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New cards when
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Do you guys grind for hours ranking up or just take it slow and do one or two matches and play again later
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>dshifters are back

Fuck off you pieces of shit.

Die, die, die!
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>>168823786
I wonder what painfully pointless mechanic they'll add in this time?

I think the grand total of cards worth using that has clash is one
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>>168823832
Depends on my mood, i also have a life outside of the PC
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>>168822504
It would take way too long to restar my entire collection so have this

>Nature's Guidance
>Mormo
>Bloodkin
>Gobu
>Novice Trooper
>Rite of Exorcism
>Fethered patroller
>Damus
>Dullahan
>Dragonrider Devil
>Brazen Demoness
I have too many x2 of animates to count
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>>168823832
I've been taking it slow because the game has become frustrating.
Only at 10k score for the month, and my actual ranked points haven't really moved.
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>>168823343
You are a hobo! You have nowhere to go except for the outer dimensions because you're homeless! Your clothes are all torn up, and you smell bad.
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pretty good considering my deck was not the best one
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>>168823537

>Used to play chain beat in YGO
>Deck that used endless backrow, banish and floaters in conjunction with hand traps.
>basically my turn was during the opponent's turn

This uh...has been quite the transition.
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>>168811594
Post deck please.
Is robin hood worth crafting?
How many should you rune in a deck?
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>>168823845
You can make them die by joining forces with the cinnamon roll.

And lots of other things too.
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>>168823987
If smelling like delicious eggs and fish is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
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>>168811594
Tempo elf is like making a comeback.
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>>168823898
They introduced Rush in the last exp and I think only Alexander saw play with that mechanic. Now in this exp you see a lot of viable Rush followers.

If the trend continues, they might add more viable Clash followers in the next exp, and introduce a new mechanic that will be on a few cards at first. etc
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>>168822504
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>>168824165
No you die too.

Fucking cheat cards from rune and forest must be purged.
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>>168823898
Veight and fangblade are good cards, it's not just one.

Personally i tributte mechanic would be pretty neat. You could chose to tribute a follower to summon another follower from your hand, that would have a more powerful effect.
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>>168823832
I only play one class, and the only time I play ranked is when I can do dailies with that class. I'll probably have to hit the grind later this month though, since I'm behind on my sleeve progress.
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>>168823523
The mirror match is a coin flip. It all comes down to who has the better draws and pressures the other players.
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>Enemy player can't play spells next turn.

how expensive does it need to be for it to be balanced?
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>>168824263

procs based on evo use (cards like mushu) and fanfares based on having a evo follower was a mechanic introduced in DE
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>>168811594
Do you use Tia? Every list I see runs 3 and I don't have her.
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>>168824467
Fangblade doesn't have clash.

There's four clash cards into total, Reno, Thief, Veight and Flood Behemoth.
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>>168824524
Depends if it's a spell or follower, if it's for a spell then the card would be too situational because unless you know they have a powerful spell next turn, it's a dead draw. As a follower it can be a typical 5pp 4/3
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>>168824524
5pp 5/5
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What crafts are good to make someone survive at least one turn (not counting Dshift)? I want to make a meme deck using Flame and Glass.
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>>168824524

It'd have to be high-costed enough so aggressive decks can't cheese board clears away.
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>>168824524
In MtG cost 1 (one) mana :^)
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>>168824263
There were only 5 cards with rush in DE anyway, counting Beelz who saw play too.
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>>168824827
Play sword and give them ambush with Shadowed Assassin
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>>168824363
Find your own cheat cards, then. See if I care.
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>>168824589
I was talking about a new Keyword introduced, but yeah DE's theme was evolution.

I'm not too sure about RoB's theme. If we go by Bahamut and all the board clears, that'd be destruction, but who knows.
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>>168824519
That's what it seems. It's hard to resist the urge to board control. Also, since I only have 2 Darias, would it make sense to play Fate's Hand more? These iceforms I have in my deck seem to be getting more and more useless, they could be card draw or burn instead.
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>>168823832
I normally do my dailies in ranked and call it a day. Some days I'm more enthusiastic and play a couple of sessions of 2 hours. I play slow decks mostly so they end up being few games a day anyways.
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>>168824524
5 mana, 2 damage to face
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>>168824263
Man, i actually really love the Rush mechanic. It makes it easier to balance cards that can attack the turn they are created and makes Storm stands out more.
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>>168822504
What's this? I guess they are not all the animated cards you have since I recently started and have like 5pages.
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>>168824994

What I'm wondering is, what's next?

If the Granblue collab coming so closely to spoilers tells us anything, I wouldn't really know since I only tried the tutorial. Hate cards maybe, since the whole element thing is what Granblue is about right?
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>>168804970
as someone new, how do the monthly sleeves etc work? just spam ranked?
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private game no concede please
63705
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>>168822504
>Bloodfed Flowerbed
>Craig
>Fire Lizard
>Wild Hunt
>Healing Angel
>Angel of the Word
>Forest Spirit
>Art of the Ninja
>Griffon Knight
>Skeleton Knight
>Feathered Patroller
>Midnight Vampire
>Alpha Wolfman
>Blood Rage
>Sister Initiate
>Damus
>Healing Prayer
>Elven Princess Mage
>Grim Reaper
>Monika
>Seabrand Dragon
>Eidolon
>Disaster Witch
>Blade Mage
>Valhallan General
>Forest Gigas
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>>168824894
True, I forgot about LotF.

>>168825089
I feel like Rush/Ward/Storm is mandatory on any card to be relevant nowadays. They had to print a card that gives Rush to Lucifer to make the card relevant, that says a lot.

But I love Rush too, it feels so good when you can instantly interact with the board without wasting an evolve.
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>It's an opponent drawhacks every answer episode
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>>168825610
Each ranked win earns you 100 points (plus a bit more for win streaks), once you hit a certain milestone they reward you with a prize, being a sleeve, gold, packs, etc
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>>168825685
SKILLS BABY.
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>>168825637
hlp plz?
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>>168825610
They track how many points you win in a month (main menu -> mission -> score rewards). Losses don't count. You need to grind 12k points in a month to get the 2 emblems/sleeves available.
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>Daria vs Daria
>Other Daria always gets perfect draws and goes second for autowin by itself
>I get 3 Darias in a hand and draw into non-spellboost cards with the one Daria I have the privilege of playing
>They always chain Darias
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Could it be worse?
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>>168826365
>flame destroyer
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>>168826365
prepared to get roached
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Whats the wost class, viability vise?
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>>168825637
>>168826098
Thank you
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>>168800018
>plays deaths brand
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>>168826365
Seems like you don't mind losing since you run flame destroyers.
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>>168826605
Dragon and Shadow, Bloods getting there too.
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>>168826605

Blood.

It was always pretty low, but it wasn't last place.

Now it is.
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Concede please 41980
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>>168826704
dragon is t1 now baby, sorry to say
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>>168826605
Blood doesn't have a single deck with a positive overall W/L ratio.
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How do people make their rage quits last for the exact length of time? Flip their data off right before they lose?
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>>168826605
Sword.

Dont listen to the shitters saying Shadow and Blood.
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>>168819698

I want to open those 20 packs in one go
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>>168826838
Using mostly Neutral followers, yes
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>>168826779
Thanks, loli vampire
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>>168826864
I just go in aeroplane mode if playing on mobile.
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>>168826971
>Dragon is bad because it doesn't use class cards as finishers
my favourite meme
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>>168826878
At least sword has T2. Blood has nothing but the cutest hero.
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>>168826838
What deck would this be?
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>>168827141
who are you quoting
dragon isnt bad, dragon cards are bad
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>>168826904
You should announce very time the room is free so people join, boludín.
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>>168826878
t. D2
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>>168827229
Saha Ramp
>>
What motivates these guys?
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>>168827682
bahamut is their waifu
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>>168827682
Autism
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>>168827682
having your name at the top of a leader board feels good. its like having the top score in the asteroids cabinet except more people outside of your bumfuck town can see it.
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>>168826605
According that Bagoum link in OP every craft has a deck in either Tier 1 or 2. It was updated yesterday.
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fuck tribunal
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>>168827682

>wasn't master during DE
>no copies of Olivia
>became master too late during RoB
>no copies of Baha

It's going to be soul-crushing when I whiff on the next master rewards because I don't gravitate towards T1 cancer, and I don't have any copies of the cover card. Again
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>>168828086
fuck baha
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>opponent plays pixie mischief on my zombie, summoned by death's breath necromancy
>plays it again
>it has no ward and 0/+1

Explain this
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>>168822504
Feels okay man
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>>168828426
buffs don't literally alter the text on a card
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>>168822504
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>>168828426
The zombie was buffed by Death's Breath. The zombie itself is always by default a 2/2 token.
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>>168824038
come back friend, the new rule changes have revived chain beat
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>open 7 free packs
>get this
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The Elvish Naif flair is so pretty. Why's it gotta say Elvish Naif?
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>>168828907
what\\\\\\\\
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>>168822504
I have a really small animated collection since I used to liquefy all of them until RoB release.
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>>168826693
>>168826443

what do I swap it for?
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>>168827682
That 100,000 5 pack reward.
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>>168828810
>open 7 free packs
>don't even get a gold
My pack luck has completely run out at this point.
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>>168828805

>limits Cosmos to 1
>releases pic related forcing people to play heroes if they want to play a banish-based control deck
>shoehorns people to playing THEIR archetypes and deck builds which still got exploited (qliphort towers.dek)

"no"
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>>168822504
Mine is pitifully small, but I have a ton of 2x animateds
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>>168829035
This one. It's got a real pretty frame and a smiling Arisa. I just wish it said anything else.
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Normally I'm so squeamish and anxious with ranked modes of games like this, but the reward system alleviates it all.
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>>168829368
Yea I have the flair, why do you care what it says?
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>>168829125
>only 2 blade Mages
>only 2 Demonic Strike
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>>168828086
>undercosted 1 for 1 that kills something else later
Just play around it bro.
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>>168829368
Naïf = Knife ears
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>>168829368
just unsub it so it's in japanese lol
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>>168829223
every single extra deck archetype is dead now thanks to link monsters

necrovalley is also getting eratta'd so it's even better than macro cosmos
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>>168827682
why is the gap so big at 1 and 2? looks cheaty
>>
91977
Need a concede
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>expansion next month
ANY LEAKS YET?!
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>>168829626

It really doesn't matter what they do.

They've lost my trust, for good. YGO isn't even worth my time anymore.
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>>168829782
Just existing cards but with more power

Its a ccg lmao, not a RTS
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>>168829635
Probably multiple people running the account while the people below them have to sleep.
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>>168829635
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some account sharing involved.
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>dragon drops bahamut using saha on turn 4.

How is this balanced
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>>168829870
I don't know what the fuck you are on about, I want to see the new sluts
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>>168829368
It means Naive Elf though, doesn't it?
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>>168829923
He basically played a dread dragon, big whoop.
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>control shadow
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I started playing the tutorial and parts of the solo and so far the mechanics seem interesting. At what point though should I reroll for better cards?
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>>168830164
MOOOOOOM!
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>>168829923
Because he had to use 3 copies of dragon oracle to get there, dumbass.
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>>168830306
Show us your legendaries and possibly gold
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>>168830108
It's because you can trick Arisa to give sexual favors very easily.
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>>168830389
gold cards****
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>>168830164
>haven shitter
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>>168830389
sure, I have 140 gold and zero legendaries. sad!
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>Control sword, worse than Haven or ramp
>Aggro sword, worse than shadow/blood aggro
>Midrange sword, wew lad

Lmao, how are swordcucks able to play such poorly performing decks. I wouldnt even think twice when choosing between cuckcraft and roach
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>>168830306
>At what point though should I reroll for better cards?
finish the tutorial if you want an idea of the gameplay

after that you can start rerolling
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>>168830807
Wasn't aggrosword literally T1 like a few weeks ago?
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>>168829761
pls
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>>168830732
>zero legendaries
Fuck man, really? there's no question, just reroll
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>>168830732
you need to go to the crate and get your pack tickets then buy them from the shop
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>>168830732
Did you open packs?
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So I just opened a second Rose Queen and I also have two Wolves. Is that enough to meme with? Or should I craft a third of either for consistency?
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Okay I think I'm fucked. My only decks are Daria and aggro bats, and the ladder is nothing but haven. I've basically gone down an entire rank because of nothing but haven.
>>
Find someone worse at this game I dare you
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>>168830958

>>168830992
>>168831048

Fuck i didn't consider you didn't open the packs, forget what i said i'm dumb
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>>168831096
Aren't aggro decks supposed to be good against Haven?
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>>168831118
I haven't gained any points in the last month despite playing for at least 2 hours every day.
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>>168830807
This, fucking this
.

SC is only good in T2, why play it over other stuff?
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>>168831096
>Dariacancer complaining about havencancer
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>>168831318
>deck that literally exists to stall, heal and trade followers as much as possible
>bad against aggro
its literally everything that aggro hates
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>>168830408
I'll give you three roaches if you suck me off, anon
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>>168831071
2 Queens and 2 Wolves are enough. You should craft 2 AE instead, she is staple in every Forest deck.
>>
starting out can i get some help with the private match quest?

70163

1/20
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Are Satan, Olivia and Odin good in every control deck? Maybe Bahamut and Saha+Luci too?
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Guys I need a shadow deck without legendaries for my dailies! Please help!
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>>168830389
okay sorry for the confusion. these any good senpai?
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>>168831743

You're boned, unless you got T2 tickets.
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>>168831843
It's garbage, reroll.
You should aim for a MINIMUM of 7 legendaries. (animated legendaries count as x2.5 of a normal legendary.)
>>
>>168831843
Reroll.
>animated Best Dominator
I'm jelly.
>>
>>168831118
Add one more loss to this. Also against Rune. When will Rune stop being the only class any plays anymore?
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7 packs and only 1 lego
At least is my nigga Odin animated
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>>168831407
Fuck off kid. I'm not cancer because my packs decided to give me those cards. I still have to get my sleeves and I can't because my only decks are destroyed by this.
>>
>>168832020
When Daria and Dshift kits get a sweeping nerf
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>>168831843
Reroll, beast dominator is one of the worst legendaries.
>>
>>168831627
Olivia, Odin, and Bahamut are fine in any control deck. Olivia 1-of max.

For Saha Luci, you want 3x saha 3x luci, so not every control deck can afford 6 slots. As for Satan, some control decks can't afford it like control sword.
>>
>>168832172
So never?
>>
>>168831872
Oh well guess I'll skip these then
I have T2 tickets but I hate T2
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>>168831556
open again, thanks black man
>>
>>168832116
>I-i'm not a cancer you baka! I-it's not like I wanted to play cancer shit instead of dusting it and adapting old decks.
>>
>>168823832
I do my dailies then meme and sandbag if I meme too hard

>>168824827
Rune's DShift - multi-turn
Royal's shadowed assassing, 4pp ambush allied followers
Haven, spam removal until their hand is dead against classes with poor removal like sword and drop it behind a snake princess or whatever.

Gilgamesh will give you 19 face and urd gives you lethal on the turn after they merge
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Was this a good idea?
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>>168832315
>play the game my way, trade all your legendaries in for half cost or you're a bad person because I said so

No thanks, I'm not a stuttering cuckold. Dismissed.
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>>168832379
>meme duck
>>
>>168832379
>turn 7
>no one used their evo points
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>>168832227
you could copy the aggro ftom tier list but its awkward wihtout cerbs
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>Sword is bad meme
This is AA2, and I've been unlucky as fuck today. The loss is a master Daria with the god draw.
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>>168832595
Sword is middle of the pack.
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>>168832526
I'm too scared to use them offensively. My opponent just didn't removed everything with something else
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>>168832575
I know. From experience.
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>>168832523
>Not using your opponent for spicy deck techs
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>>168833059
>flute
nice meme duel
>>
>opposing dragoncraft evo's into an empty field and knocks me into vengeance
>evo dark general for lethal

?
???
>>
>>168833140
C1 is the best after all

Unfortunately he won thanks to satan. Just had a 10/7 master ninja on the field
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Remember to always Bully on monika!
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>>168832595
Are you running mid-range or control? Those are both not too bad. I fell for the aggro sword meme though. That deck is so shit, I wonder how is it tier 2. I win more with aggro blood than aggro sword.
>>
>>168828810
Ayy. I got 3 leggos too, Imperial, White Wolf, and Bahamut I think
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>>168833538
What kind of shadow aggro deck were you playing? I won most of my games with it, you must be doing something wrong
>>
>>168833421
>cowtit and flat monika will never rub their bodies on you
why even live
>>
>>168833538
Top heavy aggro is the best right now. Just play aggro Sword, and end your curve with Fangblade instead of Alwida. It's faster than midrange, turn 6 wins are very frequent. But, it doesn't run out of steam after Alwida, and doesn't auto lose to board clears like most midrange.
>>
>>168832379
>salamanders breath next turn, hits face

I know this pain, running an ambush deck vs dragon is basically gambling whether or not they draw breath.
>>
>>168833697
>aggro sword is meme
>hes playing aggro shadow wrong
???
>>
>>168833852

>didn't evo the deck

He could've been "safe".

The problem was whether he'd be getting damage from hand with his topdeck.
>>
>>168833852
You're pretty smart, aren't you. That's exactly what happened. I even drew Cyclone shot the next turn. Just one too late.
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>>168833951
fugg
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>>168834131
I'm not smart
If I was smart I'd stop playing Meme-bush

But its so fucking fun, oh my god, turn 5 lethals on the perfect curve
>>
>>168834304
Wait no, turn 6
>>
>>168831447
Aggro is pretty good against haven in masters. Before you nay say shadowlog concurs with my notions
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Played through the tutorial and I found it agreeable. I figure I should do the whole reroll thing. Using an Android emulator, I'll be able to link my account over to Steam, correct? Will I then be able to link that account to iOS?
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>>168824165
I love this meme
>>
>>168834868
you generate a link code and you'll probably be able to link it to anywhere
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I need a deck that kills every single neptits user right fucking now
The ladder is infested with luna and I need to cleanse it
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>>168820486
You want blade mage and in your first hand, maybe clarke and a whole set of spellboosters, just Mulligan for spellboost synergy and you should be good to go. 2x blade mage 2x clarke is usually GG . Daria isnt needed in the op hand but it is nice.
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Friendly reminder that unless you're playing blood aggro or shadow aggro, going first always has an innate disadvantage.
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>>168835161
You want to play Rune. Dshift and Daria both beat it, Dshift moreso.
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>tfw you get albert in t9
Thank you best boy.
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>>168835161
Play dirt rune or haven or d-shift
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>>168834868
yes i just rerolled on nox and linked to steam
>>
>>168835236
Seraph mirror, control shadow mirror, its both highly advantageous to go first.
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>>168835236
At turn 10 P1 should get an extra evo point.
>>
>>168835236
Going first as forest can be insane if you setup a 4/5 Ancient Elf on T3.
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>>168835342
How is seraph against nepthys?
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>>168835341
your hand looks like a constructed deck
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can we speed up the animations on phantom howl
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>>168835236
Incorrect

Most decks do want to go 2nd, but this can change on a per matchup basis. If you have a Neph mirror and the player who went first plays Neph on curve, the player going 2nd basically loses immediately.
>>
>>168835460
>How is Seraph against a deck that can't run Odin?
>>
>>168835460
They don't have odin, that should give you enough idea how it is
>>
>Regain board control from Aggro Sword
>Have less health
>But got a board full of bats buffed by a qt Midnight Vampire

>Opponent starts going "So that's how it's done!" and "Nice work!"

>Brace myself for some crazy convoluted out of hand lethal dealing seven damage to me

>He concedes

Has Hearthstone just poisoned my perception of player interaction.
>>
>>168835460
Auto win, like against every other control deck that doesn't run Odin to at least have a chance against that shit.
>>
>>168835352
Rarely see those decks. In every case I mentioned where decks are actually played, second has a much higher winrate.
>>
>>168835603
no, players BM hard as hell in every game
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>>168835709
Just rope them if they BM and they'll learn.
>>
>>168835603
*gasp*
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Posting a sick deck, tired of constantly worrying about shadows for board clears/ taunt walls? Worry
no more I present to you "tempo shadow"
This deck focuses on building a board up rather than having a clear board for a guaranteed neptits mordecai on turn 8. Sometimes you can easily get a board of three or 4 liches on turn 6. Even daria cant keep up with that. A really fun deck.
>>
>>168835603

>7 damage
>convoluted

what kind of baby excuse of an aggro deck have you been going against?
>>
>>168835845
kys
>>
>>168835996
Well it was only the sixth or seventh turn and he only had two cards in hand.

No, wait, Albert + the 2/1 storm if a Commander is in play could have killed me, never mind. I kept thinking the only cheap storm minion Sword had was the gottagofast 1/1.
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>>168835982
>guarantee moredecai
>running 2,3,4,6,7,8 followers
What did he mean by this?
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u mad?
>>
my deck doesn't have enough draw in in, and blood's draw sucks

what do?
>>
>>168836294
>rather than
>>
>>168836294
>I can't read
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>>168836294
>rather than
l2read before you post
>>
>>168836049
BMer detected. Stay mad, okay?
>>
>>168836432

Tech in Uriel, fetch dire bond.
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>>168836425
Is Daria actually fun to play? or do people only play it because it has a good win %?
>>
>That moment where the other player 'thinks' for a significantly long time and then pulls out the perfect answer to whatever you have

Exploiters are so easy to see in this game.
>>
>>168836552
Casting spells is fun
>>
>>168836432
>bloods draw sucks
That's a first

Maybe include an ice blade warfiend?
>>
>>168836195
nobody plays that card though
>>
>>168836552
It's fun and winning is also fun

sucks to brick, though
>>
>>168836584
Yes, they definitely need a report function to report people for top decking.
>>
>>168836552
It's not fun to play at all and people only play it for quick easy wins, just like Hearthstone's Zoolock (but I guess funner than that). It's completely anti-fun.
>>
>>168836425
uncensor those tits for god sake
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>>168836584
Yeah dood he had that Themis hiding in his sleeve. What a cheater.
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>>168836425
>A1
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>>168836736
>Hello Cygames? I'd like to report a user for having cards in his deck.
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>>168836736
Topdecking 4 times in a row and then suddenly having all sorts of shit on board on top of that?

>>168836789
Wasn't Haven.
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I've made two dragons, three Runes and two forests ragequit today. Nothing feels better than seeing that "Checking Results" screen come up.

My strategy is to rope them the entire game with aggro bats and then hopefully get lethal from some stupid bullshit but then wait the entire turn with them at low HP until I use the demonic strike/razory claw.

The suspense just kills them. It tilts them so hard.

So it seems like roping with aggro decks is a lot more effective at tilting these meta scummers than roping with meme decks. I think the meme deck strategy was inherently flawed for this scorched earth campaign.

My goal was just to make these meta players miserable so they want to quit playing the game but when I use aggro the psychological warfare is so effective that I think I can actually climb with this tactic.

It takes a lot of discipline to always end the turn right before the timer goes off but I've just been watching TV while I play.

Happy roping, anons.
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>>168836914
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>>168836552
Don't you think winning is fun? I think it is!

These guys get it.
>>168836650
>>168836682
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>>168836897

>Topdecking 4 times in a row and then suddenly having all sorts of shit on board on top of that

WELCOME TO DARIA META

ENJOY
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>"Hey, let's play!"
>"Hey, let's play!"

No, fuck you.
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>>168836914
I think it's more of you being an annoying cunt and less of you actually achieving something with these rope tactics or "psychological warfare", I would gladly surrender a match if it meant I get to actually play the game next match.

Enjoy your (you)
>>
>move to unranked to get a quest done
>even haven is in unranked

THAT'S IT
I CAN'T FUCKING PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF HAVEN
IT'S EVERYWHERE
I HAVE TO CRAFT AN ENTIRE NEW DECK BECAUSE I ONLY FACE MY BAD MATCHUPS
>>
>>168836914
Except youre the one with the problem lmao.
>>
>>168837280
kys dubcuck
>>
>>168836914
>roping with aggro
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of playing aggro?
>>
>>168837518
to be fair they say exactly the same thing in Japanese.
>>
>>168837280
*gasp* x3
>>
>>168836914
What is "roping"?
>>
>>168837464
There is next to zero haven in masters.

Hurry up.
>>
>>168836552
Honestly I get way more tilted playing Daria than anything else.
After switching back to dirt I started to enjoy climbing again.
>>
>face forest
They're gonna magically have water fairy first turn aren't they?
>DON'T HURT ME

What is with these hacks. Every single forest game.
>>
What's the easiest starter deck to build via rerolling so I don't have to spend hours doing it? From what I hear Shadowverse throws cards at you and rerolling is super easy, but I'd like to get started properly.
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>Temptress Vampire into Temptress Vampire into Temptress Vampire into Razor Claw for lethal.

I almost felt bad.

Almost.
>>
>>168837280
Die you mother father
>>
>>168837095
>>168837319
>>168837491
>t. runeshitter
Serves you right for playing that annoying class.
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>>168836914
>he watches tv
>>
>>168836897
>my opponent gets mana EVERY TURN
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>>168836914
I literally just alt tab when it's not my turn.
If you enjoy feeling like a master ruseman, more power to you I guess
>>
>>168837703

They have 12 opening plays on t1

6 of which are eh
6 of which are good to use

do not be surprised that they get to open their aggression early.
>>
>>168837768
aggro sword
>>
>>168837678
I CAN'T GET TO MASTERS BECAUSE THERE'S HAVEN
I CAN'T DO MY QUESTS BECAUSE THERE'S HAVEN
I CAN'T BUY PACKS BECAUSE I CAN'T DO QUESTS
I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME
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Is it good idea to drop seraphs/satans from Elana and go storm hybrid with Pinion, Aria and Birdsong?
>>
>>168837768
Probably Daria for complete decks that are viable and cheap. Only legendaries are 3 Darias, and only golds are 3 Levis.
>>
>>168837941
>This one craft is tilting me to no end because it literally counters my deck
>Let's keep playing this deck
Really gets the brain treadmill a goin'
Just build an anti-haven deck you idiot
>>
>>168837952
I think Aria is fine now since Aggro almost non-existent in ladder. Pinion and Birdsong aren't worth it.
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>>168837703
>facing sword
>t1: LET'S SPEED THINGS UP
>t2: LEAVE DIS TU ME
>t3: THE BATTLEFIELD AWAITS

everytime
>>
>>168838106
I CAN'T BUY PACKS BECAUSE I CAN'T DO QUESTS
I CAN'T BUILD NEW DECKS
>>
>>168837941
Just play any ptp deck and put them on suicide watch
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>>168837941

>cancer killing the game and was a different type of cancer in the previous format and still is cancerous now
>chemo also killing the game and was cancer in the previous format

truly dark times we live in.
>>
What the hell are people with full ramp dragon and roach doing in D0?
>>
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>>168838195
you just need to keep trying anon
>>
>>168838190
kys dubcuck
>>
>>168838195
Last I checked if you build solely on countering haven you only need silvers and a few golds.
There's still T2, you're not actually bad at the game, are you?
>>
>>168838327
sandbagging
>>
>>168838401
stupid dubcuck poster
>>
>>168838254
I HAVE NO PTP DECK
DARIA AND AGGRO BLOOD ONLY
NO VIALS, NO GOLD
BOTH COUNTERED BY HAVEN
I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF HAVEN
>>
>>168838190
alternative version
>t2: welcome home sir
>>
Dear svg,

Today I roped someone for the first time. They were playing the counter to my deck, and without provocation, began to BM me once it became clear I wasn't winning. So I decided to empty my hand, and put my phone aside while I watch a Youtube video until the game ended of its own accord.

Please forgive me.
>>
>>168838515
kys dubcuck
>>
>>168838487
Haven is fucking 12%~ of the ladder, stop whining you're just bad
>>
New
>>168838529
>>168838529
>>
>>168838487
Then reroll and craft something that isn't shit? Or just quit until next expansion
>>
>>168838559
type it out retard
>>
>>168837319
>I think it's more of you being an annoying cunt and less of you actually achieving something with these rope tactics or "psychological warfare", I would gladly surrender a match if it meant I get to actually play the game next match.
>Enjoy your (you)

But you quitting is the exact result I'm trying to achieve so how is that not a successful psychological warfare tactic?
>>
>>168838450
T2 COSTS GOLD
I CAN'T DO T2 BECAUSE I CAN'T DO QUESTS
I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF HAVEN

>>168838574
>randomly assigned way more haven decks than usual
>you're just bad

REALLY DIDN'T THAT ONE THROUGH, HUH?
>>
>>168838664
You start with like 14 T2 tickets, that's enough to shoot yourself up to 1200 gold and get some packs along the way
>>
>>168838756
I'm not a new player. I've already spent all my gold, vials, and tickets.
>>
>>168838853
Then you should have already have enough shit to craft a 3rd deck
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I need a concede, will concede back if you need it

Match ID: 44232
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>>168838974
Okay, I'll admit that I was just bitching here. I actually have about 20k vials. I don't want to craft anything because I'm saving enough to craft every card in the game. I'm just really frustrated that I couldn't get enough cards to have a decent deck set of decks without crafting.
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>>168839217
We all need to vent sometimes
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>>168822504
Mine's not very exciting.
>>
>>168826365
>But guys flame destroyer has won me games

Shitters with a broken deck crying about bricking lmao.
>>
>>168830732
Check your crate mate.
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