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Kill me edition

> /hsg/ Tournament Information
25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
Date: Feb. 24-26
EU Time: 2pm EST / 19:00 GMT
NA Time: 6pm EST / 23:00 GMT
Estimated time: 4 hours per day
Sign-up closed at: Feb. 20 - 11:59pm EST / Feb. 21 - 4:59 GMT
Format: Conquest, Bo5
Standard Set
Mail your 1 cardban + b.tag to: [email protected]
Stream: twitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
Streamer Battletag: AxolotlAndy#1798

>NA Entry Form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWgLm4nNqzprlQVKZEKGYNLav4tRDpMz1QXqYNV6lTtwLcDQ/viewform

>EU entry form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeo-O3Z5cQJEjS56l8K5Dhq8m2GkydybKkeiBFCXuN0tNuTQQ/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://discord.gg/m8F3YeZ

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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>>168754016
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most appropriate edition of a hearthstone thread I've seen in a while bravo
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Hearthstone? more like FARTstone KEK
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If any of you cunts ban Millhouse then I'm going to cry
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>anime in op
this is not shadowverse
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>>168831546
>not using the same image
no one reads the OP but always see the image
also worst yuri
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the rotation will help
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How many free packs did you get this week, hearthbabs? I got eleven.
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>>168831838
How much did you jack off to your chinese cartoons this week? I count eleven
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>>168831838
1
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>>168831838

I got 15 free packs for just £13.99
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>>168831546
>>168831546
>>168831546

>EU TOURNEY IS THIS WEEKEND
February 24th - 26th

>NA TOURNEY IS THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND
March 3rd - 5th

>CLASS SUBMISSION
Once the banned cards are in (probably monday) you have until thursday to submit your classes + battletag to [email protected].
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>when you don't netdeck and think you are allowed to have fun in casual
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im still not convinced this is a balanced card
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>>168832148
i'm still not convinced you're not a shieldbearer
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>the year that saved Hearthstone
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>>168832148

>Rockbiter gives +3 attack for 1 turn
>Flametongue gives +4 attack forever and a 0/3 body for the same mana
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Who's ready to grind out a final 100g after midnight?
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https://xhamster.com/user/zeriyah

someone friend her!
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>>168832298
this is one of the most ignorant comparisons i've seen so far
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>>168832328
*throws 1 buck on the table*
me
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>>168832216
elaborate
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>>168832397

Every word is true
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>>168832383
kek
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>>168832256
>the phone call that saved Europe
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ready to watch docpwn top kek and misplay his way to a tournament title?
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>the retard who threw that one renolock mirror yesterday is in grand finals

skillful game
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>>168832460
flametongue is fine and only shieldbearers think it isn't
it's a reasonably strong card but not overly so since it requires you to have minions on the board ready to attack to get any value
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>>168832479
Can I receive an abridged biography on this individual?
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>>168832578
Did you see his rag game not to long ago?
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Does Demonlock work?

I can't see Krul being successful in Reno
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>>168832578
he threw a lot more
9-0 tho cuz he paid for the good cards ;^)
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>>168832793
you're not playing krul outside of reno tho
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>>168832793
>summon a board full of minions
>get blown out by AOE and autolose
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>>168832793
*respectfully Kazakus' potions towards you*
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The cocaine lad is a blessed caster, I wish others were as informed.
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this game is already over the canadian won
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>>168833209
What?
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>>168832793
Krul is built to be one of the random demons you get off kazakus
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>>168832793

Do you get duplicate copies of demons with brann?
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>>168833315
No. it doesn't create minions, it just plays the ones you have.
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>>168833285
Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler of Brian Kibler Gaming.
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>>168832793
There's really not enough demons for Demon Reno to work, but you can always try. Kazakus and Kabal Trafficker actually help.
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Playing with that deck that guy suggested reminded me why Bloodlust is my absolute favorite card in the game
Apparently Shaman is cancerous or something right now, but oh well. What would a good Bloodlust-based deck look like? In general, I don't need a decklist.
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>>168833285
>not knowing Brian "please don't call me a Blizzard shill" Kibler Kibler is a well known cokehead
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>>168832031
I thought both were this weekend? Why the change?
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>>168833285
Brian "where's my cocaine" Kibler
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>>168834093
They weren't but the EU tournament was included at the last moment and the date was never clarified well. Tourney guy said it in the last thread so I wanted to include it in the new OP picture, but others made the thread.

The NA sign-up form should say the correct date.
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>another HCT final between two literal whos playing le best decks
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>>168833817
Bloodlust has synergy with minions that are sticks, have charge or just flooding your board with tokens.
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>>168834270
And I just checked, NA form doesn't have correct date. That's where the confusion comes from.

Please help spread awareness that EU is this weekend, NA next.
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>>168834305
>another twitch kiddie who has no business browsing 4chan
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>>168833817

Stealth, charge or murlocs.

Anything works really, you just have to bait out board clears first.
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>>168834236
>>168833915
He does have that cocaine look for sure, like those yuppies folk.
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>>168833817
Mid-Jade Shaman runs bloodlust.

http://hearthstonemetadecks.com/shaman/jade-midrange-shaman
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>>168834478
>another """"old""""fag who's been here since summer '14
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>>168834236
>>168833915
The caster with the weird smile?
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I wish there was a viable cheap warrior deck that wasn't Pirate bullshit.

It's so fucking frustrating to get 4 3-mana cards on my starting hand every game when I have 8 1-mana cards on my deck.
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>tfw canadians keep dominating every tournament
why are leafs so good at video games? its not fucking fair bros.
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>>168834620
>another fag replying to my post in an attempt to be witty but his post has nothing to do with what i said
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>>168834769
>tfw you draw STB on turn 6
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>>168834905
They have to compensate for not living in a real country.
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>>168832705
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_and_Grichka_Bogdanoff
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>>168835059
kek
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>>168835090
Canadian here. What does that even mean?
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>>168835509
A FUCKING LEAF
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based doctor J
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>>168834769
You can probably build around enrage or taunt fairly cheap. It won't be as good as pirates obviously, but it'll be playable at least.
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MC Tech, Faceless Shambler or Kabal Courier in Renolock?
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I love how these aggro vs reno matchups are so one sided you can tell who wins turn 1
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Thanks Blizzard, forcing me to do a 40g quest three days in a row.
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>weeb
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Weeaboo winning
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>>168835509
You're an ideological wasteland without any sort of political or military power to influence world around you, and you're not even interesting enough to have much of an international tourism attraction. Not to mention you barely have any notable historical events/personalities worth knowing.
You could be annexed by USA tomorrow and no one would care at all.
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That was the saddest final I've ever seen
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nigger
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>>168835834
>You could be annexed by USA tomorrow and no one would care at all.
I guess you're right since I wouldn't care at all either.
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>>168835881
HE SAID IT
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>>168835834
You are not your country. You are a worthless person living a meaningless life.
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>>168835834
>*walks into doctor's office*
>*gets full treatment at no cost*
>*gets free/low cost drugs from pharmacy*
>*smiles in your general direction*
will Amerilards ever know these feels?
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>>168836084
Sure, but I was asked why it's not a real country, so I answered the question. The "you" was just a generalization for leafs.
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>young shitvage
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>>168835834
Meanwhile the rest of the world, including CA, laugh at the US and their moronic choices (nice healthcare, nice president)
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man, watching the tournament this weekend was really a let down. It all came down to card draw. Did you get Reno? Did you draw Patches? Did you draw Hellfire? Did you draw Fiery War Axe? At least I didn't have to watch many shamans, and the reno mirrors were occasionally interesting.

But man, the world championship last fall was way more interesting to watch. Maybe it also all boiled down to card draw, but these turn 5 concedes just really hit home how little skill can be involved in winning.
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>>168836125
probably not. a lot of money bought up one of the factions of politics in this country and so the sensible thing is near impossible at this point. I've always been curious if hospitals stopped helping people that didn't have insurance when they are facing emergency medical problems if the entire debate in this country would do a 180.
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>>168836125
that's it bra.
Only dont forget that you do not fear getting shop by your neighbor or something. I'm 29 and have never seen a gun irl, and its for the best.
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>>168835834
I think any canadian posting here would be happy if america annexed them
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>>168836482

>NEET foreigners get triggered about the fact that you need to have a job in America to see the doctor, knowing their worthless ass would not survive here
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>>168836553

Don't worry anon, I get the impression that our tournament will be memetastic
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>>168836553
oh and I'll add that it's good to see Amnesiac lose, I don't care if he's 16, he's the kind of fucker I would have hated when I was 16. The kid who gets upset in gym class when he loses and punches someone.

Also, good to see Wot's reno priest make it to top 8.
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>>168836719
>NEET
I'm not a useless neet
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>>168836750
Yeah, will it be streamed? Could be cool to watch a bunch of non-meta decks flail around like magikarps.

I'm tempted to enter, but my collection isn't very big. That might actually be good, since all of the good cards are getting banned anyway?
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>>168837040

Anything resembling a competitive deck will be crippled by bans. You might as well join, it will be a laugh.
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>>168836213
I have another question for you, why are all muricans so fat and stupid?
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>>168836719
I love how Americans assumes that anyone else is some poor foreigners lmao. Just how much self-centered can a nation be
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>>168837171
I am an american and I think all the shit these other americans are saying is stupid. Canada seems like a cool place. Hope I can visit sometime. Keep on being canada, or become a better canada, w/e you guys think is best.
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>>168837401
>Canada seems like a cool place

It's not

Also most people get over the self-hating american thing after like age 14 right when they're in their "my generation sucks im gonna listen to REAL music like led zepplin and the doors" phase
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>>168837401
Canada is a great place to visit. God help you if you want to live here in a place other than your parent's basement.
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>>168835742
its rigged
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>>168835742

I already finished them but today I did
>Total Domination
>Win 5 brawls
>Win 5 games with paladin
Fucking amazing synergy with this brawl
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>>168838072
Patriots are racist nazis now?
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Just entered the tournament. Banned Leroy Jenkins, fuck your burst combos!
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>>168838182
reddit frog posters are just retarded
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>>168838182
Yes
t. Germany
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should I do it, lads???
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>>168838835
its a meme
make sure you got all the profit crafts first like rag and sylv
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This might be the most skill based brawl to ever exist in hearthstone.
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>>168838835
craft golden rag or sylvanas, its basically free
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>>168838182

Yes, lots of people got booty blasted after they won the Owl because their best player, coach and owner are friends with Trump
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>>168839106
thats a cute man(male)
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>>168839283
gutter tier taste
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>>168839476
You spelled GOAT wrong
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>>168839106
how can a black man be racist?
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HOLY SHIT HOW IS FARSEER ALLOWED. THIS CARD IS BEYOND BULLSHIT LIKE WHAT THE FUCK. RESTORE 40% OF YOUR HEALTH WITH TWO 3 MANA CARDS NO DRAWBACK FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
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>>168840270
try to not be an aggro shitter burning your spells/weapons on face damage
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love you guys
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>>168840589
You're probably one of those control players thinking you're better than everyone else because your games takes a couple turns longer, truth is, aggro is the most skill based archtype and requires a lot of mathematic undertanding, card/time management skill. Something control players are lacking(and therefore decides to play shitter coinflip decks that decide whenether or not they win based on their mulligan).
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What is the most optimal dragon priest list for laddering? This is what I was planning to try, but not sure.
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>>168841116
you'll literally never get to play that ysera. Swap it for ragnaros or something. Also cut a dragon fire potion for a holy nova imo.
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>>168841116
- Ysera
- 2x Dragonfire Potion

+ Another Ooze
+ 2x Holy Nova

You can't expect to play slow cards in this meta if you don't have huge loads of healing.
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>>168841306
>>168841116
agree with this guy except cut both dragonfires for holy novas since the nova is much better
also the reading dragon is better than ysera
the netherspite historians and secret agents are your late game
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>>168837040
Someone entered last time with only Basic decks. Lost the series, but won a match with BASIC HUNTER.
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Fuck you whoever told me Mid-Shaman was autopilot. Literally dropped 3 ranks with this shit. Last time I'm ever listening to you retards ever again. Also, last card is Rag for those wondering.
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>>168842203
Holy jesus dude that decklist is retarded. Just copy paste something off the internet.
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>>168842203
over 2/3rd of those cards arent even midrange jade dude what are you doing lol
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>>168842203
>Dust Devil
nice
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>>168842387
>>168842569
Sorry that I try to not to be a netdecking faggot
>>168842809
What's wrong with dust devil?
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>>168842203
>dust devil
>no patches
>rockbiter
>1 totem golem
>dragonhawk rider
>no spitiy claws
>wolfrider
>windspeaker
>venture co
>only one thing from below
you deserve rank 20 with that list desu
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>>168840270
ban him for the hsg tourney then
fagit
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>>168842893
Okay so you don't want to netdeck. But clearly you don't even understand your win conditions with jade shaman. I get you're free 2 play btw but remove the dust devil, the wolfriders, the pirates if you don't have patches/spirit claws, the emperor thaurissian does nothing for you, and get some azure drakes in there, maybe some earthen ring farseers if you want a more defensive build. Throw in that one jinyu water speaker too.
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>>168842203
>>168842893
This has to be bait
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>>168842893
>Doesn't want to netdeck
>Lose against netdecks
>Complains about it

what the fuck dude
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>>168842203
Dude, you fucking suck. You're supposed to double Rockbiter your Dust Devil and kill him on turn 4. But you only have one Rockbiter. How the fuck were you every going to win?
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>>168842203
>these are the kinds of players participating in the hsg tourney
we are in for a treat

don't take this the wrong way i just wanted to make this funny post :)
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>>168842893
>what is wrong with a 1 drop with 1 health that overloads you for 2
>when basically everybody has a ping or patches
jeez man I don't fucking know, what do you think?

I'll let you pass the rest but that card is legit retarded

I understand and appreciate that you're trying to be original but you gotta have a clear plan when you're building a deck...What good are not-sticky minions gonna do in a midrange deck? Those wolfriders are basically worse Lightning Bolts, for example.
Venture Co. will make horribly inefficient 30% of your cards the following turn.
And Dust Devil just sucks.

if it's bait, I commend to you, that's a pretty good one
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>>168833575
What about Wild?
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Alright, since we are all going to bring memes to the tourney, let's post here and make sure we don't accidentally all bring the same meme.


So, what meme are you bringing?
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>>168843736
egg taunt warrior
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>>168843716
Could be sick with malganis.
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>>168843736
for the tourney guy, if someone bans a memecard like mill house just ignore it please
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>>168844031
You make a good point. Banning meme cards is soul crushing.
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>>168843736
gang up doomsayer shadowcaster
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>>168845107
hey man gang up jade rogue was my meme
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>>168845276
fuck jades, im just massing doomsayers
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>play arena
>against Priest
>4 fucking Talon Shadowpriests

Finally found a reason to end myself.
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Jade Druid players are LITERALLY fucking scum.
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>>168846963
>Waaah I can't beat them with my super greedy kazakus renolock
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>>168846356
you couldnt have gotten its name more wrong
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>>168847356
I'm just gonna blame that on the whiskeys I had.
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Any news on the current banlist? I just sent in my form and I want to be sure my pick isn't already taken.
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>hunter loses board control so he starts roping every turn
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How do I board clear with a rogue, especially if most minions have 4+ health?
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>>168848456
kill the opponent
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>>168848519
But I don't like going face unless I have full control of the board
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>>168848625
then play renolock or some other retarded shit faggot
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>>168847694
Its secret, but I'm told if you select a card someone else already banned, you'll get to select a new card.

I banned Leroy, haven't heard if it was already banned. I hope the rest of you ban Kazakus, Patches, Reno, Bran, Emperor, Aya, Azure Drake, etc etc
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>>168832031
How much time do you have to enter the tournament?
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>>168848456
you vanish
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Have you roped some pirates today?
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I sure am glad warrior has a 1-mana muster for battle jr.
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>>168849447
Read op
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>>168849885
if i played i would have
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>>168849885
Fuck I always miss Andy on battle net
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>>168850242
Is he the tourney guy?
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>pirate
>pirate
>pirate
>finally have enough of it and join the pirate shitters
>suddenly verse people whose whole deck is built around countering pirates with a perfect draw to boot
This seems to happen a lot
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>>168849885
Nobody ropes at ranks 3-1. I think everyone is just as sick of the high-roll fiesta and they want to get games over with fast as possible.

Laddering at 5-15 people are assholes though.
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>>168849885
I bet you're the type of guy who thinks pirate warriors are cancer but shamans are okay.
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>>168832328
>grind
Pretty sure it doesn't work like that senpai
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tfw zalae trying to make face hunter great again is the only entertaining stream right now
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Gonna do a small stream soon, wanna eat first.
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How can this deck be improved?
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>>168854409
remove mire keeper, add auctioneer
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>>168850770
That picture was from a match with a pirate shaman, dumbass.
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>>168854409
Should probably add the kang and the queen.
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>>168854816
>tfw dusted Aviana before Standard
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>we live in a meta where a 4 mana 7/7 is deemed too slow to be played in top competitive decks
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>>168855539
no it isn't
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>>168855648
literally a losing play vs aggro warrior
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>>168848934
There's no reason to ban Azure Drake just because it's used. It doesn't define the meta decks, it's just a splash in. The rest of the cards you listed make sense because without them, certain decks we see every day can't exist. But if Azure Drake's out, we see the same lists with just a sub-out.
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>>168848934
>Its secret, but I'm told if you select a card someone else already banned, you'll get to select a new card.
This is true

Finally home from work. You guys are really going to like Un'Goro

Stream will be in like 30-45 minutes. I wanna chill out and eat.
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>>168857907
What are you streaming, Andy?
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>>168857983
Probably gonna finally try Evolve Shaman. Or I'll show off my ebin #maximumstrat Hunter TB deck.
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>>168857907
... you work for bliz? They're letting you host a 4chan tourny?
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Worgens. y / n?
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>>168858386
yer dum
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>>168858386
It is common knowledge that Andy is actually Ben Brode
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>Rank 16 - Stories & Fun
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Arena draft, first pick, Warlock.

Gruul, Sir Finley, Malygos.

What do you pick and why? I can see merit to each one. I'm no arena pro (read: I never, ever play it and am just having fun), so I really have no idea. HearthArena recommends Gruul by a decent margin but I'm not so sure I agree with it.

I figure Finley has most of his value simply in the 1/3 body he provides. Picking up mage ping might be nice, but I'd really generally prefer the Tap almost always.
Gruul is just a big guy, which can be nice as a late game tempo play, but I fear that if we remove his mask, it will kill him.

Malygos also strikes me as something that would primarily be useful for its body late game, but I imagine that the spell effect could be further enhanced were I to grab a soulfire or something off a peddler or in my draft--I figure in arena he's much more likely to potentially stick a turn or two, and if I can proc his +5 even just once, chances are it will be devastating.

Thoughts?
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>>168858992

>tfw all I ever get from Paletress is Acidmaw and Boogeymonster

Makes me really consider finding another cardfu.
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>>168859184
ez kruul. Warlock hero power is broken, and removal is rare
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>>168859184
pick gruul it's not even close, finley is trash in warlock
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>>168859184
He's a big guy.
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>>168859184

Gruul. You're not gonna be able to make the kind of deck to get good value out of Malygos, and Finley is useless for Warlocks.
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How dominant is aggro in Wild?

I've been stuck at Rank 15 in Standard because of all the aggro but I want to get the Rank 10 chest, should I just go for it in Wild?

If so, what fun decks could I play there, the only ones I have are Deathrattle Shaman and Taunt Paladin.
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>my opponent, a Renounce Darkness Warlock, gets a Doomhammer from a Malkorok
>plays Upgrade
>a few turns later plays Heroic Strike for 7 damage per swing
Sometimes you're destined to lose
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>>168859934
>playing against shaman
>he has tunnel trogg, small time bucc, and 4 mana 7/7
>play devolve
>devolves into murloc warleader and 2 tinyfins, leaving him with 9 damage on board from previous 10
thanks game...
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>>168860256
STORIES XD
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>>168859514
There's a fair amount, but less than Standard at least. And it's different aggro, not just pirate. Egg Druid is really popular for some reason.
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Is DisguisedToast the most reddit streamer? I don't even think there's a close second

>disguised toast that wat si 7 agent sounds like LOL epic
>plays le FUN decks
>absolutely fucking retarded voice that only an overly tolerant redditard could stomach
>isn't even good at the game
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>>168861726
Puts more effort into understanding card interactions than you lmaofam
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>>168861726
imo I think it just boils down to his attitude. He's got a very basic, very pandering, "kooky and randumb" attitude as opposed to something more subtle and nuanced or outright owning the forwardness.

It's bland cereal outta him, but he does make really really good videos on YT.
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>>168861726
>plays to have fun
>le reddit

Sorry, should every streamer be playing aggro shaman?
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>>168861726
nevillz is far more reddit
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>>168861726
He needs to work on his speech impediment
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>>168862090

triggered redditor detected

go play randuin priest you fucking faggot.
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>>168862330
Sounds more like you're the own going into an autistic fit of rage because someone isn't playing the game the same way as you
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>>168832256
>implying there won't be any broken as shit cards in the next expansion that could have been avoided with a week testing.
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>>168862330
>it's another "competitive" hearthstone rank 5 ladder player
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>>168862396

>deflection

Definitely reddit. Probably subs to Toast. Assmad as fuck.

Leave.
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>>168862603
>demands I leave
I'm sorry, am I in your safe space?
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Stream's up. Come tell me if shit's going wrong. Make fun of me for trying to find a good Knuckles deck.

Have a cute girl to get your attention.

Link: TwitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
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>>168863095
I would, but Twitch causes my computer to crash. Go boldly, Andy!
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>>168863095
>good Knuckles deck

Doesn't the hunter recipe having him work?
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>>168831791
>worst yuri
Yui is best girl. Worst yuru is the pink haired rapist.

>>168832148
It's supposed to be a better dire wolf alpha that's limited to only one class. It should probably have 2 health like the basic totems in order to be balanced.
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Is there some kind of new hack exploit?

This nigga had the rope in that position for like 2 mins then when it ended I got 2 turns skipped and he reversed the board. What the fuck?

It wasn't my connection. I didn't even move from my spot and I don't live in a third world country.
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>>168864161
That hack is called

Shit Blizzard client
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>>168841072
Aggro is not inherently the most skill based archetype. Aggro shaman might be the most skill intensive meta deck right now, though. On average I could say "combo" decks tend to be the hardest because more often then not they can't just throw cards like pirate warrior or dragon priest and have to adhere to a strict win condition
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>>168863497
desu flametongue was completely balanced before shaman got busted out the ass with broken shit.
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Forgot how much fun streaming was.

Here's the janky deck I was working with. 2-1 record at Rank 16 NA. Fucking glorious.
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>>168864161
You can probably find a clip somewhere, but there's a documented instance of one guy's game getting hooked into a completely different match after the servers shit themselves and it resulted in the guy attacking the opponent's face and insta killing him from 30.

So yeah, blizzard's client/server are just shit.
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>>168859248
Boogeymonster is a good roll from Paletress, what are you on about? You just got a free 6/7 with upside
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>>168864161

it has happened to me a few times, can't do shit about it
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>>168862103
>neviilz is far more reddit

what would make you think this? neviilz is just a spastic eccentric living on a meme island playing whatever the fuck.
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>1 week until the meta is reno vs jades
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>>168866818
Soon after that it will be just be Jade's game.
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>>168863497
>>168864628

Flametounge has NEVER been balanced, it was just an amazing card in a class with no support for a good, aggressive board-centric deck. I agree with that guy that it should be 2 health, that would be very appropriate to tone it down and be symmetrical with the other totems
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>>168867090
t. volc potion
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>>168867090
Searing should be a 1/2 too then.
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>>168866818

>games that will be decided by if brann kazakas pulls 2x polymorph all

sounds FUN
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>>168867090
Shaman is losing it's core early game soon enough and it won't have pirates to fall back on after the nerfs.
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>>168867090
you mean those totems you get for free from your hero power? why should flametongue be like those?
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>>168867475
Warsong should have given charge minions health. I bet it would see some play then.
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>>168866818
The thing I hate about this is that you can't go over jades with a greedy deck you're forced to go under
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>>168866818
aggro shaman will probably still be good and pirate warrior a "thing", and miracle rogue will happily trade bucc for seeing more jades and Renos. Maybe we'll even start seeing greedy hunters more than 1 every 100 matches!

I want to believe ;___;
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>>168867579
You can go over jade decks, just not jade druid decks.
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>>168867090
Flametongue was okay pre-LoE when shaman didn't have hand-vomiting abilities with a perma-board that's hard to remove 50 times in one game

>b- but it's conditional!
So is fucking STB and yet it's just straight-up considered a 3/2 minion, I wonder why
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Instead of killing people with angry trees, you do it with angry jades now.
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>>168868010
I really disagree, even shaman scales up to 11/11 jades
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>>168867450
>>168867552
I was thinking about mana tide totem as a posted it, I realize that part sounds dumb

>>168867282
Good.

>>168867475
it shouldn't be too much of an issue after nerf I guess, just a really good card. I guess it's just like innervate, it doesn't make the deck but you can't deny how busted the card is
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>>168868154
This whole game is fucked up

too bad I don't have 300 a month to invest into magic
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why are card games so expensive?
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>>168869042
judaism
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>>168869042
artificial scarcity. same reason diamonds are expensive. The company's releasing the cards artificially keep certain cards hard to obtain.
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>>168869042
artificial scarcity
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think and rethink about a rogue deck...test and test.
lose a bunch and then netdeck and climb 6 ranks

rlly maeks me thnk i suck
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>>168869102
>>168869165
how is it artificial if there is literally less of a card than other cards
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>>168869269
because it's cardboard that they could make more of anytime but they don't because they want them to be expensive
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>>168869269
have you seen that pack opening site where you can up the % of getting golds and legendaries
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>>168869269
That's just the name for it, manufactured scarcity, panned scarcity, etc are all acceptable as well
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>>168869187
Blizzard specifically made rogue to be a difficult class, and one you have to high roll with. Gotta plan multi turn combos.
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>>168869452
why does blizz think turn 1 12/12 is any more fun and interactive than force of roar
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>>168869269
Because the artificial part refers to people manipulating the pool
There are a lot more diamonds in existence than there are in circulation, the diamond cartels just keep the bulk out of circulation to keep the price high

The same is true for cards, really you could print as many of any card as you had paper and ink for, but the jew cartels don't because artificial scarcity drives up prices.
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>>168869452
that's good advice and something i'm just NOW figuring out.
Now i'm just controlling the board with pirates and removal until auctioneer. i think that's how it's supposed to work anyway
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>>168869637
probably for WoW nostalgia, because rogues have to basically high roll in that game to be any good too

>>168869694
Yeah, the way a lot of pro's have generally described rogue is that turns 1-4 you control the board, and from 5 onwards you have to plan your lethal
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>>168869437
no
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>wake up
>shaman still op
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>>168870676
I'd rather take 5 turn shaman mirrors over 30 minute reno games
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>>168871275
reno mirrors are pretty tilting especially when you're up against some retard greed with medivh and cabalist tome
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>>168871275
fag. you deserve this game
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>Can't play Yogg as a win condition in control Hunter anymore
Why did they do this ;___;
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i thought the game wasn't really in such a sorry state as everyone said but this HCT event really opened my eyes

>aggro vs aggro
go first and draw well
>aggro vs reno
go first, draw well, hope opponent doesn't draw reno
>reno vs reno
discover shitfest - Jaraxxus (Created by Kazakus Potion (Created by Kazakus (Created by Kabal Courier))) where whoever discovers more broken shit wins and you can't play around ANYTHING because every reno class generates at least 10 random cards per game

literally nice game hearthbabs
>>
mean streets being so garbage has made me appreciate tgt
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>>168871836
mean streets is garbage at all
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>>168871762
you're right
thankfully reno is dying soon and we will return to the glory of handlock
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>>168871927
isnt*
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>>168871352
I play medivh in reno mage because it tilts people and I have better winrate with him than the list with antonidas
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Could anyone recommend some MP games beside Hearthstone that you can play on an unstable wifi connection?
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So why is Maiev the new rogue hero?
She is the opposite of a rogue. Would be better hunter hero than rogue.
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>>168874091
Wardens have similar skills to a rogue
They're sneaky bitches that use knives and backstab people and shit

But yeah not exactly a rogue either. Not a hunter at all either though
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>>168873708
uh, probably other turn based games I guess. you can try magic duels or MTGO
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>>168874256
she literally hunted down illidan
she said it was for the thrill of the hunt
all signs lead to hunter
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>>168874380
That was just her being tsundere for Illidan tho
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>>168874380
do you think people know the lore or care?
I've seen some pic with knives and whatnot so I associated her with rogue, and I guess thats what they are going for.

Team5 dont care about HS lore and nor should you
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>>168874380
That's because that's their job

They're called wardens for a reason
Hunters are basically autists that don't give a shit about rules and live by themselves with nature according to lore
Wardens are the females that clean up and keep night elf society working while the males sleep in the dream
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>>168873708
Atlas Reactor is a turn based moba-style game where you don't get fucked over for dcing 5-10s.
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>>168874641
if i can watch and enjoy warcraft lore the devs should too
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What are the arena streamers' win rates this season?
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Wheres the banlist tourney guy?
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>>168875064
>warcraft lore
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>>168875820
what? it's good
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>>168876034
I like it when wcr3 came out aka when I was a teen. But come on there's no dept and its just a bunch of cliché and borrowed ideas.
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>>168876101
you're really underselling it here. there were a lot of interesting twists in it
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>Log in intending to do do brawl and clear quests
>Can't be bothered to OC it so look at decklist
>Decks use cards I don't have, can't be bothered to find viable replacements or craft them.
>Log out

Shit's bad when a game's meta is so terrible it saps the fun out of every other aspect you formerly enjoyed.
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>>168876159
you can at least finish the brawl in like 5 minutes max. persevere
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>playing goons paladin in casual
>run into 3 mirror matches in a row
>every single one of them has two +1/+1 to entire hand buffs while I either get 0 or none
>all of them follow up with argent horserider to make ridiculously efficient trades and stay ahead
>mfw

what the fuck why are people playing this now
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>>168878187
why did you post? we had a good 40min of nopost and the thread was soon deleted. let it die instead of blogposting.
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I suck at deck building, how do I make this work better without gutting the deck's theme of taunts, deathrattles and heals?

It happens often enough for it to be a problem for me to end with a handful of 6+ mana costs at turn 3, and I can't dump my hand fast enough to even cast a Lay on Hands.
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>>168878607
what's the taunt that summons 1/1 taunt on death? you should use that one
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>>168879264
You mean Sludge Belcher, that summons a 1/2 taunt on death? It's already there of course, shit is OP against aggro.
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>>168878187
Brian Kibler
>>
brian cokesniffler
>>
>Don't have Maelstrom Portal
>Try to make control and midrange shaman
>Literally can't win a single game without it
I'm glad adventures are gone.
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>>168880197
same then you won't have even enough cards to try control or midrange and will have to come up with something else using your extremely limited collection
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>>168880197
maelstrom is also in the first wing so that is a super steep price to pay for what you recognize is a pivotal card to own 2 copies of ;^)
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Do I just spend my adventure gold on arena and packs now?
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>>168880272
>limited collection
I have shit tons of cards, and enough dust to make whatever the fuck I feel like making due to grinding arena like an animal.
What I am missing are the fucking cards I can't even craft.

>>168880349
>it's in the first wing
Well fuck me then, guess I'll have to buy it.
Didn't find it in the wing rewards tab, so I figured it must be deeper down.

Still feels bad to waste 700 gold on 2 copies of a common.
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>>168880438
why wouldn't you wait until the expansion releases
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>>168880482
sure in this case it feels like that no doubt
the dust would've only costed you 200g to get
but overall it's better to have adventures
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>>168835834
>this


finally someone told him
>>
Add for 80g quest
BardNarson#1397 EU
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>>168874091
Because Fan of Knives was originally Maiev's skill.
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>>168831546
im brewing up questing warlock
so far so good
>>
Why are you still playing this shit game?
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>>168882728
It did not.
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>>168882979
New event starting in couple days and next expansion reveal next week are going to boost the numbers.
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>>168882908
It's like you started talking about Team5 halfway through that paragraph.
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reminder that you can still finish daily quests by playing against a friend
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What decks should I play in the tournament?
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>>168883672
But that's only 3 classes.
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>>168883610
Play handbuff pally and put Mayor Nignog in it, believe me. He seems bad but not when he's buffed way up. I can't enter so take my meme
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>>168883610
mill rogue
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>>168883610
murloc priest
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>>168883610
Reno nzoth cthun rogue
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>>168884197
Reno will probably be banned, otherwise I'd play Reno Hunter.
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>>168883610
What was the meta last time
>tier 1 decks
>combo decks
So anything that beats combo decks and aggro shaman
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>>168884860
So aggro shaman then?
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>>168884929
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>>168883610

Last time it was all meme decks and aggro
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>open first golden legendary in pack
>it's fucking Millhouse Manastorm
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>>168886410
Just make a Winterveil Mage where you give your opponent as many bonuses as possible

For play at Rank 20
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>>168831546 (OP)
>>168831546 (OP)
>>168831546 (OP)

>EU TOURNEY IS THIS WEEKEND
February 24th - 26th

>NA TOURNEY IS THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND
March 3rd - 5th

>CLASS SUBMISSION
Once the banned cards are in (probably monday) you have until thursday to submit your classes + battletag to [email protected].
>>
First timer her, why do all my decks only have 10/20basic cards? How do I get 20?
>>
>make control buster hunter
>concede instantly concedeto every rogue shaman and warrior(give them a turn 1 just incase they're control
>start enjoying the game
feelsgoodman the way hearthstone was intended to be played
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>>168886972
>no rock hard abs
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>you will never hear 'I GOT THA BEAST IN MAH SIGHTS' ever again
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>>168887553
but it's in trumps renolock
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Can we finally get the Banned card list so I can think of meme decks
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>>168886972
i dont understand what was wrong with this picture
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wow, you guys actually STILL play hearthstone? lmfao
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>yfw Jade Shaman takes over the meta post nefrs

just kill me now famalam
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>>168886985
Level them up, dipshit. Play the game.
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>>168887880
wow, you actually STILL post on 4chan? lmfao
>>
Reno ruined this game
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>>168888328
Good thing Reno is going to Wild soon then
>>
Do I buy this
>>
>>168888486
no because you won't get what you want anyway
>>
>>168888565
I want dust
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>>168888486
>spending real money on hearthstone
lmao
>>
>>168888486
If that's an insignificant amount of money to you yes.
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>>168888486
Even I bought it and I never spend money on hearthstone.

Got garbage out of it but 5 dollarydoos was a pittance.
>>
>>168888486
its the only thing worth buying in the game

but the game is so shit and it has no future it is actually not worth it

if this came out when the game came out it would have been worth it
>>
>>168888486
for spending money nothing else comes close
10 packs is like 13 bucks and to get even a shitty legendary its about 16 packs of dust
you have about 50/50 chance you get a great legendary from it
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>>168888825
it also makes you closer to the pity timer so in a way there is a higher chance you unpack another legendary from classic packs
at worst you are 25% closer to unpacking a legendary from classic packs basically
>>
>>168888486
>Good legends:
Grommash
Tirion
Anton
Edwin
Jaraxxus

>Mediocre legends:
Cenarius
Al'akir
Velen

>Shit legends:
King Crush
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>>168888975
>Shit legends:
>King Crush

Feels bad

I love summoning him
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>>168888486
If you have less than half of the classic class legos it's very good.
>>
YOU FACE JARAXXUS
EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION
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>>168889095
same

but even giant sand worm is better, unless you are ebin hunter otk master
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>100g Quest
>Play 75 Murlocs

Time for finja gang up rogue!
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>>168889095
Me too, when I get him from infest or webspinner in arena.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1hDHkvkH_s
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So what will be the meme theme of Un'goro other then beasts and dinos
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>only thing keeping this thread alive is a fan tournament
>we haven't even gotten a tournament mode yet
How could one man fuck up so badly
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>>168889254
explorers and scientists
silithid hive
meme character references
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>>168889352
I wonder if we get Linken as Legendary or His Sword or Lario and Muigi,
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>>168889254
why do you need a theme other than dinos

iirc there's a bunch of goofy elemental/mana shit going on too and a light sprinking of ul'dar or whatever those ancient tombs were called
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>3 years later
>Still no amulet/artifact equipment cards with unique effects to build a deck around
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>>168889209
Wow took me a while to realise it's edited
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Just opened putyourfaceinthelight and now I'm actually sad Paladin is a trash class.
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>he is results oriented
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>>168889254
>>168889352
>Marshal's Refuge
>Linken
>Muigin & Larion
>King Mosh
>silithids
>Ahn'Qiraj
they have a lot of content to work with.
I am hype Kreygasm
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>>168890205
that's actually a pretty small ashbringer
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>>168888975
>got edwin from mine
>my fourth edwin
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>>168888975
I already have 3 out of 5 good legendaries and a golden Al'Akir

Do I buy it? I really want a Jaraxxus
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>>168890925
Yes buy it, 5 bucks for a bunch of packs and a guaranteed legendary is a great deal even if you only get dust out of it.
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>>168890925
Yoy get a fair ammount of dust, might aswell right?
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>>168891116
How do I report comments on this site? Could a moderator do their job and delete this?
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>>168891228
You can delete your own post, shill
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>>168891116
>>168891273
>shilling in a thread dedicated specifically to Hearthstone
this does not make sense
plz just kill yourself angry boy
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Just lost to 477 shaman that plays hex, i'm more upset about him having enough mana to cast premium removal than his retarded deck building decisions desu
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>>168890469
we heroes of nintendo now?
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At first I wasn't even mad that courier pulled the perfect answer to my board flood because it made the Mage mill through half their deck

But then they played Brann+Kazakus and got their board back (revive three minions + 6 HP) and some other bullshit pot, idk mass Polymorph or something
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criticize this dick.
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>>168890469
AQ is in silithus but I can see them including it.

Also get ready for sludge ooze
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>>168892554
its boring
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>>168892554
Unoriginal
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>>168892554
loses to aggro can't outvalue reno and doesn't beat midrange jade
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>>168892715
>Loses to aggro
Wrong!
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So according to http://www.carddust.com/ you need around 300 packs to have a good shot at completing an expansion set. That means you need 900 packs per year to get a full collection.

You get like 190 packs per year as f2p :^)

Nice f2p game that totally has no p2p or p2w aspects goi
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>>168892554
>he doesn't use le Murloc Mafia reference

You need to decide if you're going to be anti aggro or try to compete with Reno or mid Jade. So add two SWtF for the former and Elise for the latter.
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>>168893608
If you play and reroll quests every day you'll make around 24k gold a year. So say 250 packs if you do every quest.

Before, you could buy 120 packs for each expansion and just get the Adventure for $20. Now. If you wanted to open 120 packs per expansion you'll need to buy the third set of 120 packs since there's no cheapass Adventure to float gold during. That's $150 for four 40 pack bundles. Where before you could just spend $20.

Blizz went FULL JEW and people on Reddit can't stop sucking their dick for giving us more cards over 3 expansions... aka more Worgen Greaser filler to dilute the packs you'll inevitably have to buy to keep competitive.
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Guys listen
What if
Listen guys
What if Yogg only casted spells from the class you are playing.
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>>168893608
Who cares if you don't end up with every single fucken card
50% of them are worthless trash anyway
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Hall of fame dust calculator if anyone is lazy.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12JXl2-nU3kOgo6wXX7Sap8kNg72b_Rfl-NQsGUN86Og/edit#gid=0
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>>168894258
21,410 gold is the realistic amount you'll get in one year with rerolling quests as best as possible.
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>>168894641
Because you'll end up with 70 packs per expansion you retard. Including trash legendary and epic pulls you have an extremely high likelihood of ending up with no playable higher rarity cards.
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>>168832256
why couldn't they just make better cards instead of removing all the actual good ones.
I feel like year of the mammoth is going to be battle of the shit cards
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>>168895005
Good thing there's a crafting system then
Sure you can't craft ALL the good cards, but you can make enough
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>>168895293
But then they'd have to actually design good cards
You have no idea how hard that is goy
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>>168895407
i'm not even going to get dust for them
How will my F2P butt cope?
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>>168895390
>Getting anywhere close to a bunch of good legendaries and epics with 70 packs per expansion

You know the dust ratio is like 1 to 4 right? So that means if you don't pull anything good, your 70 packs are effectively worth as much as 17 packs for their dust.
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>>168895547
which also requires you to get them as duplicates in the first place instead of just being a very terrible trade to get other cards
meaning with a fresh set you first need tons of packs before you will start getting significant amounts of dupes
literally all of it adds up and its really bad
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>>168895547
You can make good decks WITHOUT cramming them full of legendaries
Wallet-warrior's gone
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>>168895516
Step one: open up google
Step two: type in hearthstone bot
Step three: enjoy free gold
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>>168895738
You are incredibly dense aren't you. This is flat out value based. This isn't about owning a ton of legendaries. Even just owning 2-3 meta legendaries to be able to play a couple of decks borderline impossible as f-2p.

And yes Hearthstone decks even lacking the smallest amounts of core cards are broken incredibly quickly.
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>>168895293
>Just make better cards
Because...that's power creep? Which is bad?

what do you mean 'better cards' anyway? How do you make a 'better card' than Azure Drake or Rag without obsoleting them?

>>168895724
>which also requires you to get them as duplicates in the first place
Why? Just dust all the cards you don't want, unless you have a collector's compulsion
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>>168895835
i don't wana get banned
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>>168895853
>set is in rotation for 2 years
>always in rotation in wild

If you'd use this tactic and dust everything that isn't meta right at the release you're going to be down a ton of dust if they ever come back up later or if you'd ever want to play wild.
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How the FUCK do people play Aggro Shaman to Legend? I just played ~6 games with it to finish a Play 50 Shaman Cards quest and the entire thing felt miserable.

It might be blatantly overpowered, but it is absolutely zero (0) fun to play. Control Warrior is more exciting to play than this garbage.
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>>168895916
Because the games are over by turn 5 most of the time, faster if you get lucky openings. You also don't have to focus much on the games, they pretty much play themselves so you can easily grind while doing other stuff.

Control Warrior is my favourite style to play but it's so fucking retarded with bran+kazakus and other retarded value shit going on now.
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>>168896109
post Cucktrol list plz.

I can't decide if the Deathwing version is better than the Elise version or not.

Deathwing is more fun to drop on the board tho.
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>>168896109
Not a single game against Hunter. Sad!
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>Do quests every day for 128 weeks
>Bot 100g for 12 months
>Manually grind out 100g every day for a few months
>Spend 250 bucks on a 'free' game

Still need 155k dust just to complete the standard rotation set, which ONLY includes the TGT, WOG and MSOG expansion sets (3 total compared to 6 the upcoming 2 years),

Average dust per pack is like 100, so I'd need to open another 1550 packs to complete the standard with 3 expansions and 3 adventures.

Can't wait for this to be 3100 packs in 2 years. But wait. I'm not botting anymore and I'm not going to continue spending hundreds of dollars on the game, so throw in another thousand.
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>>168894905
how are people this stupid, just add and subtract what you have

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Crafting Costs
Ragnaros 3200
Sylvanas 3200
2x Azure Drake 1600
2x Power Overwhelming 800
2x Conceal 800
2x Ice Lance 800
-------------------------------
10400 Dust Value

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Disenchanting Gains
Ragnaros 1600
Sylvanas 1600
2x Azure Drake 200
2x Power Overwhelming 100
2x Conceal 100
2x Ice Lance 100
-------------------------------
3700 Dust Value
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>>168896270
I just use Fibonacci's lists he posts on his twitter. They're probably up on VS etc. as well.

I can't really give a definitive answer on what's better, I haven't played much control warrior recently, I've mostly messed around with N'Zoth versions.
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>>168896480
It's best to just not give a shit about having all the super cards, and not to obsess over ladder-climbing
Honestly it's not a game that's really good to play for more than short bursts at all. I don't know how some people manage to put half their day into this thing.
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>>168896523

>How are people this stupid
>Makes stupid mistake

We're getting full dust refunds, i.e. 3200g for golden legos.
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>>168890564
Obviously Tirion is just a big guy
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>>168896697
>craft golden Rag
>disenchant golden Rag for full value

Holy shit that's 3200 FREE dust
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>>168896697
>We're getting full dust refunds, i.e. 3200g for golden legos.
No we are not getting any dust "refunds" we are automatically given dust for the cards we own

The only thing you should be crafting is golden cards

If you have a legendary, and you dont care about it being gold, you do nothing.
if you have azure drakes, and you dont care about it being gold, you do nothing

otherwise you craft all golden versions of common cards
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>>168896857

Don't tell me what to do, nigger, I'll craft a dozen regular Conceals if I feel like it
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When will blizzard actually introduce downsides to cards that are actual downsides? You aren't punished for playing a single card in any of the top decks.
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>>168896828
is this actually what will happen? blizzard can't be this stupid
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>>168896973

Except for when Deathwing shreds your hand
Or when Dirty Rat pulls Ragnaros

There are downsides for lots of cards you silly goose.
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So we know with cash grab games that a small percentage of paying players covers the cost of the totally free players.

I think Blizz has finally found a way to tip the scales so that even the major IAP players ($300+/yr) will think twice about pulling out the credit card. If you need say, 200 packs per expansion to complete every meta deck and everything will be useless (or not if they ever support Wild) in one to two years then would you keep buying it? On top of that, now with the Hall of Fame, any classic legendary you crafted in gold because it would always have a chance in Standard could be banned at any time.

Idk I'm just thinking about PAD. I know that game has bucket loads of IAP whales so I wonder if they would continue playing if their coveted heroes/gods they spent a hundred+ dollars gambling on rolling would begin to get rotated to a trashy joke mode or made useless. The two systems are kinda similar in that people spend money to gamble on OP Gods and sell their shitty rolls to buy better gods. Like how people spend money to gamble on packs for OP Legendaries then dust the shitty cards to craft the better missing Legos/Epics.
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>>168897049
>except for this one snowflake card le smug mlg players run
>and when you're retarded enough for a t2 dirty rat
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>>168897201

Playing around a downside doesn't make it less of a downside

What cards are you getting enraged by specifically?
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>>168896828
>>168897048
Wait, can you do this? I have enough dust to make golden versions of all cards in the hall of fame. So I'll get more dust if I make them now and disenchant them later, right?
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>>168889539
This is your only problem and not that after about 7 expansions/adventure the game is currently at its absolute worst shape it ever was?
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>>168897393
(You), pic related
>>168897268
Not that anon though
But 'it's a worse Light's Justice without spell damage' is not a reasonable downside for the class which has the easiest access to spell power in the game.
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>>168897393
No, you craft a golden legend
Blizzard gives you 3200 dust, so crafting it was free
You can then disenchant it for 1600 dust after

See>>168896523
If you craft gold versions of all the cards, then disenchant them after the patch

You gain 3700 dust for free, but lose the cards obviously
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Anything I can do to make the deck better againt aggro?

Farm 400 more gold for Maelstrom Portals?
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>>168896662
I only play on my phone and tablet, usually while commuting on the bus/train, running errands or on a smoke break. I can see why aggro is popular because 30 minute armor up heh greetings isn't very feasible if you're on a train about to lose service or playing during a poop break at work. Blizz's fault in a sense for making casual mobile friendly then trying the tourney angle with no balancing.

I would never play this shit all day from a computer unless I were REALLY good and serious about getting into tournaments for cash rewards. It's a pretty awful game to be serious and competitive about.. coin flip RNG determining matches, no quick balance patches to fix busted shit, no actions on enemy turns...
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>>168897639
doesn't seem like that much value.
Is it absolutely guaranteed to work like this because i'm F2P and have 7k dust in the bank and all of these cards non gold already.
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>>168897716
>how did you get 3700 from 2 legendaries and 2x of everything else you fucking moron
Are you actually retarded? its the net gain/total profit, you invest 10,400 dust, you get it back, then you dust the cards you crafted for 3700 dust

>>168897778
Just craft the golden versions of the commons, you gain dust on those because the rate is better 5 dust for a common vs 50 dust for a golden common
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>>168897778
>Blizzard misleads everyone into blowing all their dust on shitcanned cards
>'Well guess you'll just have to buy some packs to get ahead now'
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>tfw the your opponent pulls out a 12/12 Ctun, sure to win with it, and then you play Humility on it
>concedes next turn
I started playing this week, but damn, "You've activated my trap card" is such a great feeling.
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>>168897778
If you have all the non golden versions you get 3640 dust
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>>168898073
>>168898113
will i get more if i do craft goldens though?
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>>168898113
and one less playable copy (400 dust), and without the option to change your mind about your choice whenever you want.
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>>168897679
>le "I only play Hearthstone on the shitter xDDD" meme
yet you still post on /hsg/
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Are there any cards which have been confirmed to be getting changes apart from those entering the Hall of Fame?
I have about 300 duplicates I've been saving for that extra dust, but I need dust to craft that golden Ragnaros.
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>>168898261
Just dust safe cards my man (bestial wrath etc). You can tell certain garbage tier cards will never get touched, let alone buffed. Just keep a minimum of x2 copies so if they ever get rotated to the hall of fame you'll have the refund.
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>>168897658
>>168897658
>>168897658
pls respond
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>>168898151
If you craft the Golden Commons, and disenchant them after, instead of 3640 dust you will get 3700

Golden Rares and Legends disenchant for the same cost of a normal Rare and Legend

Disenchant/Craft Commons are 5/40 Golden commons 50/400
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>>168898416
You're making an unreasonable expectation that people don't already own cards that have been staples for like 2.5 years since the start of the game.
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>>168898561
I misread your reply, but you're just copying what I said so I'm not getting your point.
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>>168899019
Am I missing some important information because from where I'm standing it seems like anything that is being moved to the Hall of Fame is free.
It's like that Nigerian Prince who I helped out.
All I had to do was lend him 3200 dust and then when he got moved to the Hall of Fame he gave me the 3200 dust back AND he let me keep him as a slave.
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>>168899226
On one hand, I dusted over 64 bulk epics to craft rag and sylvanas
On the other hand, I'm paranoid about blizzard saying "BUT WE FORGOT TO MENTION THIS WHOOPS" or "GUYS IT WAS RIGHT THERE" while changing rules for it
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>>168899226
His point is that you'd get +1600 dusts flat out if you just kept your current copy.

If you craft the golden you don't have +1600 after the fact (unless you dust it), but you have 1200 less dust than not doing anything.

However crafting the golden is like buying an option. At any point in the future you can decide that you didn't care about the golden card anyway, and get it back. Not the other way around.
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>>168843736
My meme has and would always be if it wasn't rotating, Majordomo.
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what just happened
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What's up with all those deleted posts?
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>>168899421
>However crafting the golden is like buying an option. At any point in the future you can decide that you didn't care about the golden card anyway, and get it back. Not the other way around.
Not to mention IF, and it is a pretty big if, Blizzard ever nerfs Rag, Sylvannas, Azure Drake, etc etc

You get the full dust back for the golden

The point is if you have the dust there is no reason not to craft goldens
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Are there any bots still usable and free for HS? I have no desire to play the game but I'd love to watch a robot slave play it for me.
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>>168898207
I don't understand what you're saying. I do only play HS on my phone and very casually. I also post to hsg from my phone. And I believe aggro is popular due to the game having a major mobile market where mobile gamers tend to be doing other shit while gaming instead of PC players who can try hard at home. Am I missing something?
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>>168900064
>blizzard nerfing wild cards ever
aaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmaooooooooooo
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>There are people who still play hearthstone
I feel bad for you people
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I just incorporated this into my rogue deck and won a game vs. a Mage.

Combined it with cold blood, it hit for 10 face damage and I used conceal to protect it. The Mage conceded....

Could there be a viable Windfury-based deck?
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>>168900261
Yeah man who likes hs anyways
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>>168900317
>rank 22 tales
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>>168900064
A very valid point I forgot about. If these cards are considered oppressive to the design space right now, they might be considered it for wild in the future.
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>>168900426
18*
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>>168900459
AYYYYYYYYYY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>168900394
>rank 18 priest mirrors
every time
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>>168900394
>Blue card when played
I noticed that Kripp's card are green when he plays them, what the hell?
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came up with a fun new way to spice up hs

>close your eyes
>pick a random class
>close your eyes again
>pick a card
>turn page
>pick a card
>etc
rate
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>>168900704
i usually have it autofill a 30 card deck if i'm questing
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>>168900764
oh yeah i forgot about that feature
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>>168900704
I close my eyes way too much already while fucking your disgusting mom in the vagina
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>>168900628
Something something shit monitor so he has to change RGB settings in system.
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>>168900628
?
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>>168900317
I mean I guess it's nice that thee Mage didn't have volcanic potion but let's think for a second about this.

Name every Windfury neural minion. We have this guy, his Old Gods version and what else? There's an Orc right? Now ask yourself you can afford four to six or more decksluts for these minions while still being able to push damage, counter threats, etc. Will you add this to a Questing or Burgle shell? Mircale or no? What's your alternative win con besides Windfury if you have to blow cold bloods on other shit to take out threats?

Don't forget your opponents will usually have board clears. Beating one Mage once at rank 17 because he didn't have AoE, Kaza potion or was low HP or caught off guard doesn't mean you'll have a good win rate. Can your Windfury Cold Blood deck beat aggro Jade or Reno? If the answer isn't yes to at least one of those deck types then it's shit.
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>>168900791
uncalled for
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MORE DECKSLOTS WHEN
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If I want to play a viable Shaman deck for fast stars should I play aggro or midrange and what's the difference between the two? I've only been playing evolve because I got golden dopplegansters and racketeers.
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>>168901170
Delete basic decks.
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>>168900079
Give me the robots, /hsg/.
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Ban list out yet?
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>>168897658
>Shamanigger needs help with his meta deck
You can find decklists online.

I'd say drop a swamp ooze and healing wave for another lightning bolt and brann.
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>>168901943
Already done a year ago.
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what a boring meta.
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>>168903160
How are you not excited by the coinflip shaman meta?
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>>168900079
Alright I'll give you some pointers. It's not as easy as it used to be, but I used to post cracks in the 2014 Hearthstone Botting General all the time.

I haven't checked these since 2014 but its worth a shot.

code(antispam)deception com
broad-(antispam)product(dot)biz (Crawler bot patcher)
bot-(antispam)area net
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>>168903332
Fuck I can't believe Cdeception was taken over by the actual botting site
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>>168903332
I remember having one bot, but it kept taking 3+ turns to do 1 turn.
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why bot lol? just spend 500-700 bucks and you're set
no need to risk your account
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I just came here to post that im switching to shadowverse from now on. I played it for 3 days and holy fuck its so much fucking better than this shit. So many unique decks that dont feel the same at all. Good luck anons i hope we meet again in the future it was a good + awful run while it lasted.

Farewell
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>>168903762
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>all these absurdly lame as fuck cards that do SO much for so little investment like healing you to full with no drawbacks AT ALL
>Ability to simply play one card and make a custom spell to fit any fucking situation

jesus christ this is so bad what have they done

No wonder MTG and shadowverse are rising in popularity
>>
shadoworse
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One thing I'm still trying to figure out about crafting the hall of fame cards:

I do not have much dust at all. I had just spent a bunch on making gimmicky wild decks when the announcement was made.

I've got everything, non-golden, except silvanas. I understand that if I craft her (gold or non gold), I'll get the full dust back. But is it worth it to dust a bunch of legendaries and epics to make her? I've got some bad legendaries, like Moroes, Noggenfogger, Genzo, Onyxia, Cenarius, that I could dust. I just don't know if it's worth losing four of those to get silvanas+1600 dust
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>>168904663
you have several weeks before needing to do this, but you should absolutely craft cards you are missing before they rotate out
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>>168903914
That's because you've probably been playing Hearthstone for 3 years.

Myself and people I know felt Shadowverse was great for the first few weeks but it's just as stale and boring at the top with less creativity and a shittier UI.
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>>168900916
>>168900903
>>168900628
>>168900394
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>>168905061
playing shitverse made me appreciate hero powers a lot. got sick of dying because i left had to leave a 5/1 alive for a single turn
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im insane
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>>168905164
your saturation is shit
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>>168904883
as mostly f2p, I will not have 1600 dust anytime soon, unless I happen to get a duplicate legendary or something. I also just disenchanted a bunch of shit gadgetzan commons, figuring I won't need them and I'm likely to get them in arena anyway. Not many rares or epics I'd consider ditching at the moment, while a lot of that is based on long term aspirations of decks that I am nowhere near completing.

I guess melting down Onyxia, Moroes, Noggenfogger and Genzo could be worth it for Silvanas+1 legendary I actually want.
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>>168903564
That was because of your shit computer. Bots have improved a fuckton though.
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Someone please explain me how people with several really good meta legendaries are on my f2p rank 20
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/vg/ tournament bans where?
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>>168905848
That won't happen that much anymore after the patch this month
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>>168905848
They didn't play ranked this season
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>>168905794
A duplicate legendary is 400 dust bro. You need FOUR legendaries to dust.
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>>168905910
yeah BRO, if you read the bottom of my post, it should be pretty clear that I understand I'll need to melt 4 legendaries to make Silvanas.
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>>168900079
Hearthranger is free for 2 hours per day and costs only 20 euro for lifetime. I got to rank 5 with it using pirate wild warrior.
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>>168905893
I haven't followed anything of the game for around a month, because losing in turn 5 was really boring. What they gonna change?
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>When you get all-ined by rogue turn 2 with an 8/8 van cleef no conceal all burn spells in hand and don't draw one of your 2 hex 2 devolve copies in the deck
Simply outplayed
>inb4 muh high risk high reward plays
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>>168905848
Same reason from the inception of the game on. Concede every other game to stay low rank, farm your quests with 95% winrate. Close game again after 15 minutes.
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>>168906002
When you hit rank 15, 10 and 5 you can't go below that for the rest of the month
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>>168905848
>play my f2p account which i just started
>do really well mechanics wise and just get outvalued eventually because im playing people with all kinds of adventures and set cards
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>>168906067
Sounds pretty cool, I like it
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>>168906067
but why would they go past rank 20 anyway

Season resets often enough you could get legendary 1 time for card back then farm f2p noobs at 20 forever anyway
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>>168906012
>hurr i deserve to have a chance
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soon... well be back.
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>>168906337
Because getting a golden epic has more value than winning a few more matches
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>>168905794
>Dusting commons
What's the point? Kikestone gives next to nothing for commons, might as well keep a playset if you ever happen to need them.

Yeah just craft her. I have neither ragor sylv, and intend to dust some junk epics/legs for them. Its gery possible that wild will end up the only worthwhile format to play in.
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>>168906343
I have to ponder what Brode and his team were on when they decided that hard control decks needed to be erased for 2 years, and permanently in >wild
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>>168906687
They need to just delete Gadgetzan already.
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>>168906687
they realised that nobody likes playing against fatigue decks that don't even try to kill you before you run out of cards.
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>>168906484
You can grind to rank 5 easily in the last 2-3 days of ladder.
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>>168906868
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>>168906962

That's something else they need to implement. If you reach rank 5 you start the next season at rank 15 instead of 17 so you can't farm at 20 if you do grind up to 5 at the end of the month.
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Noice
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>>168907793
nice pack
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is missing zoo the cool thing now

for me zoo is basically the embodiment with everything wrong design-wise in hearthstone
sure it beats current aggro but it wasn't ever good
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>>168907793
>>168907934
>tfw blizzard is so jewish that getting a bunch of crap is considered a "nice pack"
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>>168907960
the cool thing now is complaining about changes everyone has been asking for
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Magma rager in fucking buff paladin.

Well played
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>>168908096
I'm a simple man
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What if Handbuffs were a Warlock mechanic?
Would Zoo and Paladin be viable?
Handbuffs would bring your minions just outside of Shaman's aoe range while Life Tap would allow you to always have minions to play and buff.
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How can generals of B2P/P2P games still manage to not only have more IPs per thread than /hsg/ but move faster as well?
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>play weebverse for 50 minutes
>260g, 1 pack, 50 dust, 3 animated (hs golden) cards, some art for the profile
really makes you :thinking:
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>>168908702
oh you get much more. I got like honestly 50 free packs and i play for 2 days and i already have 2 FULLY COMPETITIVE DECKS
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>>168908702
they have a good business model. i hope they succeed even if i don't like the game
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>>168908843
>>168908804
>>168908702
>>>/svg/
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>>168908892
kill yourself 12 year old
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>>168905061
it might have a shitty UI but at least the cards don't 10 seconds each to reach the field once you play them like in HS
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>>168908892
neck yourself Ben Brode
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reminder that hs gives 100g for beating all the expert ai and shadowverse gives 1400g for beating all the elite ai
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Banned card list for /hsg/ tournament when
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>>168909178
im currently getting the 2000 free gold for facing 20 different opponents on private matches. Man they are so generous and gave me so much free shit that i bought the one time deal because i felt i need to give somehting in return
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>>168905983
Are they even banning people for using that anymore? I remember now that I didn't end up using it because my alt has so few cards and I didn't want to risk my main. I might risk it anyway.
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>>168909289
even after all the one time things which already adds up to tons of packs, with the season rewards, the achievements, the daily login bonus and the daily quests. you continue to get a generous amount
feelsnice
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>>168895738
Like what?
Currently the cheapest deck runs 3 legendary cards, 1 which is a adventure lego so you can't craft it.
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>>168909508
I've been botting on my main since black rock. All is fine.
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>>168898151
You get 60 more dusts if you have all the golden common. Other golden cards won't make any difference.
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>>168904206
Nah, Hearthstone is just falling in popularity.
Read recently a piece that said how Hearthstone and MTG are for the first time searched the same amount on google. After I opened it the graph just clearly showed how stable MTG is and how HS dropped insanely.
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>>168906649
dusting commons makes the most sense when you need a rare or epic. You're bound to get more Gadgetzan Socialites and Kabal Lackeys and Grimestreet Chums and Alleycats. You'd immediately dust those duplicates anyway. And when the new expansion hits, are you really going to be upset if you have no Grook Fu Masters?

If you ever really need one of these commons again, 40 dust isn't a huge loss. You got 5 dust for melting it down, you lose 35 if you HAVE to replace it for the new meta. Whereas if you dust bad epics and rares, and then the meta shifts to where you need them, that's alot of wasted dust.
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oh shit I just found a patcher for the latest bot

I think I'm just going to go for it, if I get banned I'm freed from this cuck game anyway. I didn't get caught in 2014.
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>>168910185
Where did you get yours?

Trying to get in on the botting, although I'm way late to the party.
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>>168909664
It just mulliganned onceuponatime, is there a smarter thing than the default?
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>>168906343
Would this fix Jade Idol?
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>>168910627
Youre just using it wrong ffs
search for Project Rank 5 on hearthranger forum, lurk more ffs.
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don't fall for the bot shill, you're account will get banned and you need to invest a lot to get it back up to speed
my suggestion: just spend that money right now instead ;^)
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Okay so what if... For every expansion they make a Welcome Bundle. $5 for ten packs, one time deal per expansion.

And make packs give 8 cards so you're not dropping $50 for a 40 pack bundle thee times a year and getting only shitty ass filler like Worgen Greaser and Grook Fu Master.Then make the pity timer 20 packs and not 40 so if you decide to drop $50 on the bigger bundle you're guaranteed 2 Legos instead of one.

Wouldn't this encourage players to buy more packs? Even F2P people bought the Welcome Bundle because a guaranteed legend you might be missing in top of dust and bringing you closer to the pity timer since you already get classic packs from Tavern Brawl is a good deal.
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>>168910746
Yeah, many people have made this suggestion. I really hope some kind of nerf like this happens. It'd still synergize with Auctioneer, but it'd prevent Jade Druid from being the ultimate attrition deck.

Currently the ultimate attrition deck is Control Warrior with Golden Monkey and Justicar, but even it will eventually run out of cards. Still, some deck inevitable has to be the ultimate late game deck. I think the nerf your suggesting could maybe even the field between Golden Monkey Warrior and Jade Druid to something that is competitive.
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LEGEND WHEN
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Stop shitposting in our general hscucks. Yours need the posts more we are actually enjoying the game we play
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>>168911049
why aren't you playing shaman or warrior?
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>>168910746
Perfect since you can't go infinite Jade spam on an Auctioneer+Fandral turn.

Also prevents Driud from totally invalidating Fatigue damage for 1 mana along with every goddamn control deck. Seriously what shit was Team 5 smoking when they came up with Jade Idol?
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>>168910746
reminder that jade druid is a bad deck that loses to renolock if played correctly
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>>168911192
I was more interested to see what it would do when faced with decisions, in what it still a relatively simple curve on curve curvestone deck. This isn't about hitting Legend, it's about watching a bot play a shit game.
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Are there any statistics on how much all of the game modes is being played? I highly doubt that the majority of the playerbase is trying to reach a good ranked spot
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>>168910941
I've been botting pretty much since BRM and nothing happened.
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>>168911316
Doesn't change the fact that the card in question is broken as fuck.
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>>168909836
seems a little pointless. oh well at least i get dust for loosing the cards.
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>>168910967
pretty sure it will encourage more players to buy because the surer the reward, the safer it is to pay up some if the price is right. you know what you're getting

i think the big question is if that will outweigh the crazy amount of people who will spend like really a lot. basically such a system would be good in my opinion but it does cap the amount of packs people would need, so there will be a bunch of people who'd spend really a lot they won't have to anymore and be done easily

it's about the balance of that whether it's better but it would definitely make a lot more people buy things, just like now that even with paying a decent amount you are very unsure it makes a lot of people who can spend quite a bit not want to spend anymore
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>>168911049
Youre doing this so wrong its not even funny, prepare to drop 5-6 ranks if you keep this up
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>>168910941
Yeah so many people got banned for botting :^)

Back in 2014 when like half of constructed was bots they didn't even do permanent bans, they gave people a 1 month ban and next would be permanent. I didn't even get banned after botting like 15 hours a day for 6 months straight.
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>>168911543
It errored out before it could finish the game.

Also I lost because Jades lol
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>>168911545
>bot 3 golden heroes
>Blizzard bans everyone except me for some reason
>stop botting

I should probably start again, I guess they don't care.
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>>168911352
If their stats are to be believed then over 50% of players never go above rank 18. On top of that I'm sure many are getting burnt out and just play joke shit instead of laddering. Wild probably isn't that popular since it's possible to queue into the same player more than once if you go high enough. Seems like the only players left in Arena are those good enough to go infinite and with the patience to play multiple runs in a day.

Shit like the Morgle promotion really skewed their numbers since I'm sure MOST people made an alt account instead of bringing a fresh person to the game. Their numbers have definitely suffered from this meta though and with the next rotation making the game way more expensive to play via 3 expansions they're bound to lose players who aren't close to a full collection or who haven't played long enough to have a ton of gold and dust saved up.
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friendly reminder that reducing the health of STB won't do absolutely anything

mark my words if you want
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>>168911689
>Blizzard bans everyone except me for some reason

They didn't ban everyone. They have no botting detection in place because Warden isn't compatible with the shitty Unity codebase. And they aren't going to build and maintain two copies of Warden just for Hearthstone.

So instead they manually monitored some stuff and did a pseudo-banwave to scare people.
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>>168911749
Feels bad man
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>tfw no secret apartment where i go and take on a different identity and use it run a hearthstone bot without worry
one day...
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>>168911880
it won't make shaman and warrior not be top tier decks but it will reduce their consistency slightly and make their early game easier to deal with
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im trying to find a youtube video of a bot playing well
the older vids seem to have the bot be pretty retarded or glitched even

do you just make a fresh account with fake info and nothing like paypal or phonenumbers linked to any of your real accounts but you run the bot on the same ip so isn't that still tricky? vpn the bot?
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A pack now costs 60 gold

There

Fixed
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blizz killed itself with jewishness. reminder that the 'new quests' reddit begged for, for variety are virtually impossible to complete for f2p players
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>>168912163
Dude fuck off. Blizzard bans the game license on an account. Don't be such a paranoid autistic fuck.

Go google sirbottington, that was the /hsg/ 24/7 go-to stream.
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>>168911520
Well the heavy IAP whales will continue to open their wallet because they tend to go for full collections and golden legendaries even if they're not that good at the game. I'm thinking about the tier below them, the players who might spend $200-500 a year on packs. With a third expansion they'd be looking at dropping another $100-200 to get all the decks.. For cards that will be rotated in one to two years. They will have a threshold where they won't want to continue spending if they feel that their money isn't going far enough and they don't want to pay more especially if the meta continues being shit. Below them, the players who spend $50-100 a year will have to put in even more money since the dust they save will deplete with more cards needing to be crafted on top of another expansion replacing the $25 Adventures.

Unless Team 5 makes some good daily and weekly bonuses a lot of IAP players will probably spend significantly less, quit, or stop spending entirely after a year of three expansions and their dust funds deplete and just stick to Wild with the cards they have already collected.

It all depends on if Blizz focuses on short term profit (people buying the 3 expansions during the Mammoth rotation then quitting) or long term (people continue to pay because they get a better deal for their money in the form of more cards or better rewards/pity timers so they don't feel bad for gambling tons of money on shitty RNG packs).
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>>168911689
They banned PARTICULAR BOTS. Some owner went nuts and started demanding money from people that allready paid for his bot and threatened to release their informatio if they wont comply.
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>>168912470
Wirmate is a fucking autistic jew rate, but that has nothing to do with the Blizzard ban'waves'
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>>168912371
i guess thats true, the people going for just crazy stuff or like spending a bunch may still continue mostly for whatever reason
i think the tier below that say the more normal people even if it ranges from a bit to a decent amount they will definitely be affected
when the news was out i feel like i read a lot of those people who dont mind dropping 100-200 on an expansion saying they dont really wanna spend anymore when such an amount doesnt get them a collection thats fun enough for them but thats just anecdotal

i agree that surviving will depend on if they put in a structure that allows players to earn just earn plenty from playing and then they can decide how much they would spend, at least they are still invested that way
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roping a pirate warrior ama
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>>168912967
Will he crush you?
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>>168912967
why drag out your suffering?
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Is there no general discussion discord for /hsg/?

I want to complain to people about this shit game.
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>>168913008
maybe but my hand is pretty good

>>168913023
because i'm fucking pissed
a shamannigger just got the 1/4 spellpower totem to kill my auctioneer
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>>168913097
Yeah there is, it's on the reddit
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>>168913287
Haha, nice one friend! :^)
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>>168911543
I'm using Silverfish now, it just picked Onxyia over DrakOP on Netherspite, how do I change the numbers to make it not do that? spoonfeed me anon
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>>168913814
IT PICKED A WEAPON OVER LIGHTNING STORM

WHAT'S THE POINT IF IT'S SO DUMB
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>>168913814
>>168914289
I was going to help you out, but you're a fucking retard so good luck.
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>>168914323
You're not telling me how I'm being a retard. I loaded the thing up, put Silverfish in, and it's playing like shit.

I'll go read the thread, but it's an AI. If it can't pick the obvious best card from a discover, what is there to do?
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>>168905804
I dunno, senpai. Shit was working fine back before nax release
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>>168914490
Fuck off retard, if you act like a brainless ape and put 0 effort in it you can just fuck off.

>>168914569
Hearthranger didn't exist then. This isn't wirmate.
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Can reddit suck Ben's dick any harder?
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>>168915157
>the only standard classic card is angry chicken
>ITS FINE GUYS CLASSIC IS STILL STANDARD
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>>168914490
You don't know what an AI is.
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>tfw my PC is too shitty to run a bot efficiently
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>>168914737
I'm not talking about hearth ranger.
I think it was buddy something. Are those two the same?
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>>168915250

Angry Chicken is GOAT in buffadin desu
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>>168915713
put the game in window mode, and make it as small as possible while the bot is running

i mean by dragging the corner of the game window to decrease its size

let me know if that helps you
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>>168915719
No it was Hearthcrawler.

>>168914490
You just downloaded the bot from a place with a gigantic forum with information.
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>>168915713
Reduce the simulations. People said the same shit about Hearthcrawler in 2014 but I ran it on my laptop. Just spend more than 1 minute setting it up.
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if i see one more midrange jade shaman i'm gonna snap
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>>168915838
>>168915976

I've tried changing some settings for Silverfish but the only settings that changed were maxwide and playaround. I don't see how either of these would change basic logic of an obvious disover pick.

Can't see anything else here http://www.hearthranger.com/forum/yaf_postst6733_-TUTO--Guide--Setting-up-HR-with-silverfish--custom-files-and-more.aspx
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>>168916808
http://www.hearthranger.com/forum/yaf_postst7491_Project-Rank-5.aspx

Heres the fucking link you need, with custom silverfish and bunch of settings.

Dont bother using decks like renolock or control warrior, just use something braindead like aggro warrior or secret paladin.
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>>168916808
Then you obviously haven't read up enough.
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Gonna be at work all day today, sign up deadline is 1159EST tonight for both regions.

If you got a ban that you haven't done yet, email me.
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>scrolling down twitch
>see this

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>168917072
Can't you get on battle.net for 5 min?
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>>168917072

I'm so hype to see this ban list
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>>168917030
But the point is to use interesting decks. Thanks for the link
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>>168917072
Where do you work tourneybro
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>>168917164

what the "hell" is that
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>>168913710
I am not fucking with you but wouldn't Reddit people be slightly more fun to hang out with anyway? I always have seen 4chan as being the more realistic and stern big brother but Reddit is the idealistic bimbo idiot who likes to party.

On 4chan dischord it would sound like "hey faggot fag faggity fag" probably all day long.

I enjoy the opinions far more here than Reddit and the culture don't get me wrong.
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>>168917475
go to the overwatch discord, it's actually alive.

There is no proper hearthstone discord and there has never been one. Some retards keep posting a 'multi vg' discord, but it has like 1 message per 2 weeks.
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Dont you just love seeing pathetic renocuck getting BTFO by fair and glorious Jade druid? This is why I wake up in the morning. Yeah mongoloid you healed for 20hp with bullshit card, YOU ARE SO SKILLED. Yeah renotard you played bunch of removal early on instead of fighting for board pressense, YOU ARE SO SKILLED. NEWS FLASH.... NO YOU ARE NOT. Youre renobraindead deck requires as much skill as pirate warrior, you just play removal on curve, GET FUCKED renotard.
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>>168917330
>not knowing ASEEN, DA BEST PALADEEN IN DA WORLD
https://youtu.be/cLYrFR9RT_U

He played hearthstone for a while and scammed a bunch of people by running an indefinite stream for """charity"""
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>>168917475

Any kind of chat room with people from 4chan is usually pretty chill.
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>>168917475
reddit is like a liberal faggot who has a problem with everything and has terrible] humor

some 4chan users are okay in real life, but the ones who browse reddit+4chan think saying memes irl and greentexting outside of 4chan are funny
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>>168917617
>>168917475

https://discord.gg/aV46u
https://discord.gg/wbqRs
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>>168917626

I'm surprised people still run Harrison Jones in renolock, surely Ooze is better
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WHERE ARE THE BANNED CARDS TOURNEY GUY

YOU SAID MONDAY
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>>168917775
He runs both, his list is literally in the left portion of the screen.
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>>168917845
Brann is banned.
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>>168917845

The deadline is tonight
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Fucking hsg tourney guy just get on battle.net so I can message my bans
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>>168918015

Well that's clever

I always mill myself with Harrison in warlock
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>>168900704

If you believe in the heart of the cards and are rank 16, all decks can be viable.
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>>168918081
there's an email in the op.
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>>168918354
>not believing in based malchesar
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reno mage is more cancerous than every pirate variant combined
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>>168918524

Fucker basically carried the game by giving me gormok right as I needed it.
>>
>Who knows what secrets we'll discover
>At last, a worthy disciple

LoE can't fucking rotate out soon enough
Reno is a fucking CANCER upon this game
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>>168918723
Once year of mammoth hits im switching to wild.
Bye.
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>>168918606
>>168918723

>Aggro shitters

Jade shaman shits on all reno decks.
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>>168918432
Sure but email is fucking annoying and he hasn't been online for more than 5 minutes in the last 4 days.
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>>168918929
He literally streamed this morning
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>>168918965
What is EU
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>>168918929
>email is fucking annoying
>ctrl-C ctrl-V is too much energy

the state of lazy millennials
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>>168918929
he got to me like 20 minutes after a registered for the tournament yesterday. i was even afk for an hour when he did and he still responded when i answered. maybe you're just unlucky.
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>>168919127
He could've handled the forms a ton better, now you have to take 3 different actions on different platforms.
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>>168917330
Some autist who tried to start a streamer commune and went on a power trip before losing everything. He also had a former pornographic live in the commune.
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>>168918882
doesn't mean reno mage isn't fucking cancer though

you can play around jade shaman even if it's broken as shit
you can't play against reno mage because lol discover lol discover lol discover lol discover lol discover lol discover
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>>168919252
Are you from NA or what
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>>168919032
Yeah. He streamed at 5am GMT+2 timezone.
Literally this morning.
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>>168919428
>or what
you mean asia?
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lmao Kripp thinks miracle rogue isn't dead with the Conceal removal
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>>168919447
Streaming at 3AM for EU, nice meme
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Did blizzard change quest ratios? I've been getting only 40g quests (including rerolls) for a week now.
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>>168919495
shut the fuck up retard
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>>168919551
dunno
people have been saying it in this thread but meanwhile I've been getting mostly 50s and 60s
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We /throwback/ now

What techs do you think is necessary for this meta?
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>>168919495
>implying Kripp has ever been wrong
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>>168919673
>>168919913
Miracle can't exist without Conceal
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>>168919885
double ooze no summoners
probably want mistress of mixtures too
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>>168919495
And how do you think miracle rouge will survive without conceal?
The very unlikely early game big edwin?
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>>168919978
>/hearthbearer general/ game theory
>"trust me guys i know exactly what the game is going to be like"
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>>168919885
how do you plan on beating polymorph aoe from kazamukus?
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>>168919885
Id take out eadric,summoners, and vigil
Add in ooze,mistress,and paladins early heal
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>>168920152
>kazamakus

Fuck off TJ
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>>168920141
You still haven't explaind gow you think miracle rogue will survive
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>>168920092
I don't think miracle will survive, Kripp does. In his latest video he explains Auctioneer should have been banned too.
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>>168920141

>Devolve is going to break the meta! Shaman will be the only t0 for the rest of time!

That was the day I stopped listening to /hsg/

>>168920390
Not him but a lot of t1 miracle lists since msog dropped didn't even have conceal
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How do you counter Jade? Hardmode: no degeneracy
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>>168920626
kill them before they're shitting out 10/10s
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>>168920664
But anon killing them = aggro = degeneracy
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>>168920626
renolock unironically
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easiest 100 dust ever right?
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>>168920390
rogue is capable of things you cannot comprehend. i can tell you that conceal is not necessary for the goal of the deck but i don't know what's going to happen after the rotation and expansion that we know nothing about
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>>168920832

>not using that for card draw in Mech Hunter
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>>168920832
it's pretty damn weak
it's not completely inconceivable that some midrange mech deck might surface sometime but I'd dust it without remorse
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>miracle is dead without conceal
I dont even use it in mine, I use Malygos.
Oh they cleared my board? who cares because oops 20+ burst to face.

And dont tell me Malygos isnt miracle rogue, its the same fucking deck with 3 card changed and works the same
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>>168921186

I don't use either in my miracle rogue and I do ok. I think people underestimate Rogue, it always gets good cards nuked and still comes back.
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>>168921410
The
>Rogue needs healing and gud weapons to be viable!!!
Meme is one of the worst and oldest memes in all of hearthstone
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>>168921567
But design space!
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>start eu account because bored
>build the best basic decks I can muster
>rank 25 to 21 is just wholesome basic minion combat

C O M F Y
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Are the changes of not dropping below rank 15 already in the game?
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>>168922262
no that change goes live at the same time as the nerfs
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>>168922138
Just wait until it stops matching you against new accounts.
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i just realized the problem with hearthstone not being fun is epics

epics almost are all

-super staple
or
-fun effect that you'd love to make a meme deck around but can't because 800 fucking dust is half a legendary

epics should be 200 to craft and people would experiment tons more
>>
>>168922337
>>168922262
do the nerfs happen at the same time as the Hall of Fame cards, or are the Hall of Fame cars at the next rotation?
>>
I've been playing this game for a while now and I'm 100% certain that only 2 different people play all hunter matches I face, because they all have the same decks and play the same.
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>>168898207
>butthurt that someone called out how shit hearth stone is as a competitive game
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>>168922606
you're right
still waiting on pilfered power
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>>168864161
I've fought a couple decks like this where the whole strategy of theirs is not letting me have my turn. Brewmasters and other fucking cards over and over again, it's clever as fuck but holy fuck it's a pain in the ass to [lay against.
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mulch is an okay card.
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>>168922606

Yup, you should look at gvg and the following expansions. In gvg very few cards are actually epics and most meme cards are rare unlike the other expansions where literally everything card that has an interesting effect is epic.
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>>168911393
>BRM

What bot are you using?
>>
i'm so mad it makes me want to go full retard and buy some packs
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>>168923073
That's the entire Blizzard business model.
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>>168923073

>*Laughing Big Boy Brode*
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>>168922606
I thought most epics were equivalent to bulk rares you dust the moment you get them because they're either overpriced for effect or underpowered for cost or extremely situational thats useful once in a blue when when stars align
>>
>play mage vs mage
>the person with mana wyrm on the hand wins

nice game
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>buy 10 packs with gold
>1 legendary
>buy another 8 packs with gold at the end of the session
>2 legendaries
shadowverse is generous
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>>168924478
coin frostbolt gg
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Loving this high-level gameplay going on in sjow and amnesiacs stream today.

Aggro Shaman is like playing Chess 2
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>>168924415
thats exactly what they are

but they're also FUN
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after what must have been a week of 1 pack per three days i finally get to reroll this little shit one last time to grant me something better than 40g
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>>168926558
lol hunter deck is so far down wtf guys xD
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>trying a jank rogue deck
>getting fucked by shaman
>the frustration and hostility I feel kind of feels satisfying
uninstall game again
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>>168926896
>below even handbuff
>>
>try to do quests
>tired of shaman after a few games
>turn on streams
>cuckler is getting pissed at shamans and leaves
>switch to a different stream
>some Polish neckbeard is kurwaing at shaman and stops playing
I wish this blogpost was an exaggeration
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>tfw dragging the druid with you into a defeat with a hellfire
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>hunter handbuff only buffs beasts
nice going "design" team
>>
>>168928642
The secret and the 3-mana 3/3 buff any single minion in hand.

Still, nice design.
>>
>>168928796
>>168928642
The problem is how random it is. It's pretty terrible when you have to hope it lands on the correct minion or you just lose. Hunter should've gotten the AoE buffs, they're the classes who needs them most.
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>>168831546
>tfw 4.43 average in arena
Infinite anytime soon right ?
>>
>>168832148
It's 4/3 worth of stats for just 2 mana. I think it should be 3 mana but it's not really broken at 2 mana.
>>
>>168929431
based rank 1 arena player by far in every single region
>>
>>168929431
>play 2 arenas
>12 wins and 8 wins
>stop
>I'm 10 wins average guys I swear
>>
>>168929095
Not really, paladin is built that way since his entire shtick in MSG relies on playing cheap shitty minions with mass buffs then refilling your hand with Divine Favor for aggro or Acolyte and Fight Promoter for midrange.

Hunter's minions like Kodo, Rat Pack, Hyena, get much more from handbuffs than paladin's shit which is usually just a pile of stats.

tl;dr the whole mechanic is tricky to balance and pretty shitty overall
>>
>>168929624
The problem is that the buffs almost never consistently lands on the minions they need to.
>>
>>168929431
This has to be bait

Highest in the world is 9

http://eu.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20497687
>>
Do we need a new thread when
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>>168929907
at the current posting rate, in 55 minutes
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>>168929781
>tfw it's balanced because it's random
They could probably make hunter's handbuff a bit shittier but targetable, or just make that handbuff spell targetable to a minion in your hand and increase the cost, but I'm sure the technology isn't there yet or whatever.
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Whoever makes the new thread, please include this in the OP.


>EU TOURNEY IS THIS WEEKEND
February 24th - 26th

>NA TOURNEY IS THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND
March 3rd - 5th

>CLASS SUBMISSION
Once the banned cards are in (probably monday) you have until thursday to submit your classes + battletag to [email protected].
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>>168930121
Ehhh, I'm kind of confused by the mechanic you proposed. Let's just keep it the way it is.
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What is the pick here ?
I want to take Horserider but they say Cryomancer is better.
>>
>>168930203
today is monday
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>>168930527
argent
>>
>>168930702
Yeah thought so.
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Did Hearthstone peak on its first expansion?
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Should I really take Mirror Entity ? I think the 4 drop looks better here.
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>>168930589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0

New OP needs to be a rebecca black one.
>>
>>168929393
Part of the problem is it can be 12/3 worth of stats if you keep trading the minions on either side in a turn
>>
>>168931165
I'd pick ME I think. Naga Coursair is pretty mediocre and ME will always be a decent card, also you might get a scientist or something if you're really lucky.
>>168931294
>trading
What?
>>
I want to play Jade decks but I'd probably (definitely) need Aya, but now thinking about it I don't have a Mulch, a second Ancient of War or Fandral for jade Druid.
Would that deck still work with those missing epics/legendary? Should I save my dust for something else?

Also, is jade likely to stay good, or could it be another C'thun situation where it fades into obscurity?
>>
>>168931257
is it 2011 again?
>>
let's start posting rapidly so we can start a new thread
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>>168931113
No, 2017 is going to be the Urza Block of HS

Just you wait
>>
>>168931861
was TGT the kamigawa block? Shit overcosted mechanics on all the creatures, but high value legends?
>>
>>168931528
We just don't fucking know right now. Fact of the matter is they will not print any more Jade cards so it's not getting any better than it is now.
>>
>>168931528
If you like playing Druid in general, Fandral is a must have. I don't think a second Ancient of War is that necessary. Mulch is nice but I don't have it though it's rotating out anyway.
And the good thing about crafting Aya is that you can use it with Shaman (and Rogue) too, so I think it's a nice craft.
>>
>>168928642
>>168928796
That secret is fucking awful. Couldn't they have made it a 3/3 or something or is it 2/2 because they were worried it's too strong with Huntress? Because it really fucking isn't.
>>
>>168932103
HS isn't even close to being that old, we like just got out of ice age
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name a more patrician deck.

protip: you might.
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48 percent win-rate after 25 games. I can probably do better.

Game plan is to take and hold the board, get good trades with the attack buffing cards, C'Thun is the finisher. Kabal cards generally provide good stall or clear tools to stay alive.

Defender doesn't feel super great, nor do the Flame Jugglers. Those probably could stand to be replaced. Suggestions?
>>
>>168932658
n'zoth package = alpha
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>>168932658
renolock
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>>168932658
>elise instead of power fucking incarnate
utterly plebeian, do you even tank up bro
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>>168933565
>play deathwing
>they roll taunt totem
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>>168933565
I agree, Memewing is the better card in fatigue and is way more fun to slam onto the board.
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>>168933565
But there could be anything inside that golden monkey! Even a Deathwing!
>>
>>168932103
>Shit overcosted mechanics on all the creatures, but high value legends?
What good legends came out of TGT besides Justicar and Saraad?

>>168932936
I don't think you should go the full Zoo route with C'Thun, might want to add some actual AoE or removal instead of cards like Flame Imp since you don't seem to have any way to recover your board once you fall behind. Brann might be a good choice with all those Battlecry minions if you have LoE and maybe some taunt minions.

What did you lose again the most and what observations did you have in those 25 games?
>>
>>168931528
Jade shaman is definitely here to stay and it's going to be a stage 5 cancer unless they somehow make something even more cancerous next expansion.

Jade druid will always be a hard counter against control decks and since Blizzard is unlikely to introduce more combo decks, it needs pirates and rogue to fuck off in order to gain more prominence.
>>
>>168932658
Literally any form of infinite shadowcaster combo

Probably the hardest mediocre meme deck to play
>>
Guys don't ya see?
Hunter.
Face class.
Cancer is face cards with pirates
Pirate. Hunter.
>>
>>168932936
power overwhelming sucks in this deck
>>
>>168932936
Twin Emps are staple in C'Thun decks. No reason not to play it unless you don't have it.
>>
>>168932658
jade golem druid
>>
>>168934236
The reason Pirate Hunter never took off was because it has no weapons to play on turns 1-2 which is when the Pirate package is the strongest.
>>
>>168931520
If the minion next to the totem dies in a trade the the buff is be applied to a new minion provided you have one.
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>>168934386
>Twin Emps are staple in C'Thun decks.
>disenchant Gormok to craft Veklor
>don't play C'Thun anything anymore
>miss Gormok
One of my biggest newbie mistakes back in the day.
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Whoever makes the new thread, please include this in the OP.


>EU TOURNEY IS THIS WEEKEND
February 24th - 26th

>NA TOURNEY IS THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND
March 3rd - 5th

>CLASS SUBMISSION
Once the banned cards are in you have until thursday to submit your classes + battletag to [email protected].
>>
>>168930063
fucking called it
>>
>>168890993
>>168891017
Well fuck, I got an Al'Akir

Do I just the golden WIIIINDS or keep it because it's cool?
>>
>>168934545
not unless you have some godlike rng
>Hey goons, ovah here
>discover n'zoth's 1st m8
>become warrior
>>
>>168935192
Al'Akir is a good meme card, but you'll either end up evolving or using him to clear drakonid operative
>>
Okay I'll make a thread, just don't make two at the same time.
>>
>>168936743
>>168936743
>>168936743
>>
>>168934236
It's playable in wild with glaivezooka
>>
>>168897145
The fuck are IAP and PAD.
>>
>>168941318
in app purchases and puzzle and dragon?
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