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> /hsg/ Tournament Information
25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
Date: Feb. 24-26
EU Time: 2pm EST / 19:00 GMT
NA Time: 6pm EST / 23:00 GMT
Estimated time: 4 hours per day
Sign-up closed at: Feb. 20 - 11:59pm EST / Feb. 21 - 4:59 GMT
Format: Conquest, Bo5
Standard Set
Mail your 1 cardban + b.tag to: [email protected]
Stream: twitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
Streamer Battletag: AxolotlAndy#1798

>NA Entry Form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWgLm4nNqzprlQVKZEKGYNLav4tRDpMz1QXqYNV6lTtwLcDQ/viewform

>EU entry form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeo-O3Z5cQJEjS56l8K5Dhq8m2GkydybKkeiBFCXuN0tNuTQQ/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://discord.gg/m8F3YeZ

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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>>168686314
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play anything else
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What exactly are the rules for decks used in the /hsg/ tournament? Can I use any deck in any match, as long as it doesn't use banned the banned card?
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ok WOT is our guy
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>>168754407
You need to win a match with every of your not-banned decks during bo5.
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>>168754407
your opponent bans one of your decks but you can play with any of the other three unless you've won with it before that match
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>>168754407
If your deck contains no banned cards and your oponnent doesn't ban your deck, everything is allowed.
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play miracle rogue
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now this is a classic priest game lmao
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>>168754748
if you're rooting for the shaman you have no soul
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>shaman is so fucking broken it can outvalue a reno priest lategame

You LITERALLY cant make this shit up
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>>168754934
i would root for satan himself if he was against anduin desu
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VALUE SHAMAN
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>>168754958
Paladin Hero Power is broken vs Control decks.
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>>168755107
it was the 477 azure drake and jade lightning that won it though
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>>168755107
had literally nothing to do with the hero power and everything about top decking 2 477s in 3 turns and then top decking flame tongue to kill the bruiser , while wot top decked no SW:Ds
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>>168755208
I was just trying to meme because that's what the casters were saying.

I apologize for this mistake.
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Amnesiasc is so nauseatingly lucky. And this retard whines about others having good rng.
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>>168755451
>he didn't mute them
wew
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>>168755543
he's "playing the percentages" so it's skill dumbass
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Lol this retard interview bit.

"I am thinking linearly on the microdecision level withing each individual game instead of thinking in the broad theoretical sense"

Literally the reddit way of saying "I try to make the best decision each individual turn"
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>>168755735
we literally just so that other guiy play pirate warrior and lose two immediate games becuase of a bad starting hand
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PIRATE BTFO
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I entered the tournament, how are we submitting dicklists? I want to meme it up and get the fuck out.
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>literally held kazakus to give better % on taunt revive
>casters
>hurr lucky
REEEEEEEEE
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who the fuck is this long haired faggot and how did he just come out of nowhere and start casting events

he's so fucking ugly, and his hair pisses me off god damn. someone needs to walk up behind this faggot and cut that disgusting ponytail off
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>>168756043
Submit your ban, and once bans are annouced bring 4 different classes. If you violate the rules you play rematch with wisps and tinyfins.
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>>168756109
Sottle's been there forever and he's always been an obnoxious fuck
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>>168755451
No, it is indeed correct that paladin hero power is a nightmare for control decks.
But that alone isn't nowhere near enough to help you win against late game priest.
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>>168730496
Sign-ups close on February 20th at 11:59pm EST, which is also 21 February at 4:59am GMT for the Yuros.

>>168741568
>pic related
Good to see you. Genuinely hope you have a nice time.

>>168743512
During submission, yes

>>168744443
Yeti was banned by the peanut gallery of /hsg/ and actually fucking mattered because DonCacturne brought three Basic Decks and had to swap out all the Chillwind Yetis in them.

>>168754407
You gotta bring in four of 'em, they gotta have no banned cards, they gotta be unique classes, and one of 'em is gonna get banned by your opponent for use in that particular series.

Break the rules, bring on the Wisps.

>>168756043
You aren't submitting decklists, you're submitting classes. First and foremost you must submit your cardban to the email listed in the OP.
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How did Blizzard manage to turn one of the best cards in the game into cancer?
Brann + Kazakus
Brann + SECRETAGENT
Brann + Jade
all make me want to end my worthless life
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>>168756109
They should cut off that disgusting pimple too. If I had a pimple like that Id soak a knife in vodka and cut it off. I had a small pimple on my nose that I removed like that np.
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>>168756507
>You gotta bring in four of 'em, they gotta have no banned cards, they gotta be unique classes, and one of 'em is gonna get banned by your opponent for use in that particular series.

So when exactly are we supposed to put together the decks? Between 20-24?
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Wot putting aggro in their place
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>>168756879
I'm hunting for bans right now, and chances are you'll have all of Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday to submit your classes to me, as well as potentially some of Monday and Friday.

I'm aware it's a little strapped for time, but it is what it is.
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is Wot our /NewGuy/ now?????
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The baby boy lost to a girl.
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looks like kibler shared some of the good stuff with frodan
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>>168757073
Wait, so we're only submitting classes? No one knows (not even you) anyone else's decks before it starts? Also, are the banned cards only for the games you're playing, or is it a huge list that applies to everyone? If the former, can you play the same card you banned for the other player?

Sorry for being confused but I've never played in a HS tournament before.
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>>168757369
>Wait, so we're only submitting classes? No one knows (not even you) anyone else's decks before it starts?
Bretty much. Been doing that for a while, going off the honor system, and it's worked out solidly desu.

>Also, are the banned cards only for the games you're playing, or is it a huge list that applies to everyone?
Huge list that applies to everyone. I'll make a good visual for the competitors of both EU and NA

>Sorry for being confused but I've never played in a HS tournament before.
Welcome to the fun and enjoy your experience.

Something I ought to mention is that THIS weekend will be the EU tourney, and the FOLLOWING weekend will be the NA tourney. I feel like that bit of information has gone under the radar for some reason.
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if you are playing jade shaman against dragon priest, do you want the game to go to fatigue or not?
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if you play shaman you need to look in the mirror and examine the meaning of your existence also kill yourself
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>>168757724
idk
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>>168757534
>Something I ought to mention is that THIS weekend will be the EU tourney, and the FOLLOWING weekend will be the NA tourney.

So EU is 24-26 and NA is 3-5?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm retarded.
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>>168757534
>THIS weekend will be the EU tourney, and the FOLLOWING weekend will be the NA tourney
can we sign up for each server?
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>>168756510
Yep.
Brann is biggest offender right now
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only... a few.. weeks
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Last couple of things I wanna touch base on before I forget;

>Cardbans
After reflecting on a few things, I've decided that the cardban deadline is February 21st at 2pm EST for the Yuro boys. This means that you d00ds get to take any un-taken cardban slots +2 I'm throwing your way for free.

>Competitor Portraits
Following the Signups deadline, I'll make a post that anons will reply to with images they want the various competitors to be represented with, except for klandri and Ary, as they are the very first /hsg/ Champions to return to the tournaments and I have something planned for them

>>168758018
Yes. I may have to cut a day a little short on time for the NA one because my father's birthday is that weekend.

>>168758121
If you got the balls, then go storm the halls yes
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>>168758414
>Justicar
Now that is something i haven't seen in a long time.
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>>168757769
What if I'm playing Evolve Shaman with moat lurkers and doppelgangsters?
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>>168758414
>weeks
The rotations is in weeks !?

I though we were 2 months away.
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>>168758576
I know right

Dead before it even got cycled out
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>>168758707
could be
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>sen'jin in tournament
>in 2017
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>>168758414
>Justicar
>aids
Greetings, friend.
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>>168754016
i haven't played hearthstone in like 2 months, can i see full decklists of the pros playing in the tournament right now anywhere?
why is frozen using that shitty 6 drop, what have i missed in the time i've been gone?
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>>168759062
what is this post supposed to mean? do you think shaman is struggling against 6 mana 6/3?
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>>168759156
>he doesn't know
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>tfw trying to brew some meme decks for the tourney
>get matched against 6 Pirate Warriors and 4 Aggro Shamans in casual

f-fuck
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>>168758414
Weeks? You wish. We won't be getting the rotation until like early april if were lucky.
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>>168759270
The deck that wins against aggro Shaman but loses against every other Shaman.
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>>168759040
why doesnt he use cyclopian horror instead? Its better in 99% of all situations in this meta, and the few times hes worse its in a matchup where the 1-2 attack doesnt matter.
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>>168758469
another stupid question, are NA and EU bans separated? If they are, when is the deadline (also release date) for both of them?
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>Reno Mage mirror

Riveting.
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Spent my saved up gold on some Classic packs, hoping for some sweet Wild-transitioning draws.

You know the drill, boys.
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>>168760767
juuust in time...
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>>168760767

King Krush
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>>168760213
Yes they are separated.

EU's cardban deadline is 21 February at 2pm EST (7pm GMT)

NA's cardban deadline is exactly a week later.
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>>168760767
>GvG pack
?
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>>168760998

>Not having an eternally unopened GvG pack for posterity
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>>168760767
WIIIIIIIIINDS!
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>tfw dusted half my leggos to get reno, brann and kaz

reeee
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>>168761267
why would you lie
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>>168761362
you're right. I did something much worse.

i bought a shit ton of packs
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>>168760767
>>168760840
A different dragon avatar for now.
A staple neutral finisher for certain decks is a nice pick-up. Not sure how much fun I can have with this one though. It's definitely not going in the Casino, or maybe it will for a few games at least.

>>168761092
And don't forget to buy a TGT pack!
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i just crafted this fuck like 2 weeks ago. do i disenchant
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>>168762804
naaa hes too dope
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>>168762804
Dude, Golden Jaraxxus makes your hero, hero power, AND hero power spawns golden. I say go for it!
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>>168762804
>passing on golden INFERNO!
bruh
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>>168762804
Keep the golden one, super sick pull
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>>168762998
oh and golden weapon of course
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>>168762985
yea jaraxxus is my favorite card in all of hearthstone but i am poor and 1600 dust is a lot. idk what to do, wish i was rich i guess
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is this the shortest tournament ever
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>>168763142
If you don't have Rag/Sylv yet and are interested in Wild, you might consider dusting him on the grounds that you're crafting those.
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>>168762804
you keep the golden one you retard
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>>168763142
If he was some shit legendary you'd never use then sure

But you don't dust golden fucking Jaraxxus man
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Jesus fuck Kripp sounds like his life has been sucked out of him
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>>168764416
Vegan health LUL. In all seriousness I hope he gets well soon.
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what can replace azure drake in ramp druid? fucking lotus agent? azure drake will be sorely missed by all.
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>>168764707
nothing as of right now. I wonder how many months its gonna take for blizzard to realize they have made a huge mistake banning azure drake.
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>>168761736
maly rogue is super viable right now.
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>>168764707
lunar visions. I know its not quite the same at all but if you need it for cycle its decent.
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>>168764707
nah fuck az*re drake
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>>168764707
only noobs ran azure drake in ramp druid
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>>168764881
>People will have to make choices instead of clicking the auto-take
how can blizzard do this to us
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>>168756507
Do we have to submit a card ban? I don't really give a shit frankly.

Bans are pointless since you'd have to ban everything to remove cancer.
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>>168765576
its a good card because most midrange decks lack draw, not because its ohh so insannneee wooooooowwww. azure drake allows you to not be card starved by turn10 and just rely on lucky le topdick rag xDdd
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>>168765636

>Bans are pointless since you'd have to ban everything to remove cancer.
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>>168766090
Then put more card-draw in your deck? Adapt
Drake's utility just couldn't be matched. It had to go.
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>>168766434
Name a good card draw that isnt used already, except for classes that a;ready have loads of it eg. druid or mage or rogue . warrior has none, rogue has none, priest has none, shaman has a bad arcane intellect they dont use, paladin has none, and hunter is just the card starved class i described, the only time they were truly popular in recent times is when they could run OP cotw which negated the need for draw because opponent would normally die
>Drake's utility just couldn't be matched
yes because cards in hearthstone are usually retardedly linear and serve only 1 purpose , and drake was one of the few examples of an actually well rounded card, other being bloodmage.
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>>168766220
Everybody hates something. You ban patches, then somebody wants reno banned. Then ban brann. Gotta ban justicar and elise. What about leeroy?

This whole fucking game is cancer, accept it.
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>>168766220
The only winning move is to not play hearthstone.
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>>168765636
If you don't mind banning anything can I pick the ban for you? I'm not gonna participate in the EU tourney because I'm gonna be traveling, but I'll watch the whole thing when I come back.

Ban Brann. He's not fun at all right now.
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>>168767139
Brann can be fun with things likw courier, scarab or rogue caster infinite meme combo. Its the nobrain jade/drakonid/khazakus combo the cancerous one.
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>kripp gets a literal perfect mad bomber
>not a single word
>opponent mad bomber pings his minion
>WOW HOLY SHIT THIS IS SOME SERIOUS BULLSHIT
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>>168767609
Hes manipulating karma with his gypsy magic
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>>168765636
message me and tell me you choose to defer your ban to the community
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>>168767609
I mean thats what makes it funny right, everything insane that he gets is 'expected' and any action his opponents takes is 'luck'
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>>168768121
If I had to email anyways, I just sent one. Patches can fuck off I guess.

Sorry >>168767139
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Well, I was rank 1-3 stars at one point. Now I'm rank 4. I can't fucking win with or against anything. Just high-rolled out of the game all day.
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>>168767609
>I'm a streamer so it's more difficult for me to win
I'd imagine quite a few people get nervous playing against mighty Kripp in front of a 20k+ audience, spill their spaghetti and lose. He would never acknowledge that though, misplays always mean "shitty player".
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>>168768613

>i went from rank 4 to rank 1 with systematic, intelligent play!

>i went from rank 1 to rank 4 b-because i g-got unlucky

Man the fuck up and keep queuing, faggot.
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They should just make games a literal coin flip at the beginning so we don't waste any time anymore
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>>168770186
Or you could muster some self-control and stop playing if you think its so shit
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>>168770728
I don't think it's shit, I'm just tired of the foreplay, might as well get down to business already
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The day mage become popular again is the day this game finally dies.

While tunnel trogg rotates out. Cancer worm will always stay.
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>>168772382
be happy flamewanker is rotating out atleast
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How do you report bots?
I kept emoting but the guy wouldn't answer.
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>>168772592
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>>168772592
Blizzard would never ban 40% of their active playerbase, they have to keep the queues nice and short for the casual mobile players.
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>>168769609
I did, I'm already back. Feels good to just whine a little. I know this game is a high-roll fiesta.
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by cardban you just mean a deckban right? for the tournament?
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I just realized the rotation will most likely fuck over the cancer dragon fucker Anduin.

>mfw

No more overstatted crap for you on curve fuccboi king.
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>>168773254
>40% of their active playerbase
what
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>>168774024
>priest literally barely eaked out a place in the meta
>cancer

Tyrande doesn't deserve this
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>>168774024
You only just realised BRM will take half the dragon pool with it?
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who can i ask questions right now about the tournament? anyone with a btag?
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>>168774564
AxolotlAndy#1798. He's in charge now
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>>168774650
not online? my questions are seemingly basic. how do cardbans work? is it player matchup based or deck matchup? and wouldnt that be ridiculous if things like reno get banned? youre basically not bringing decks anymore, since youd switch your whole deck if thats the case
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>>168774505
Wrymrest agent and 3/6 wall dragon is in TGT
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>>168775029
Which is also being rotated out
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>>168774961
Its basically a list of bans that everyone pools in. If you ban a cancer card someone else already banned it doesn't matter. Basically expecting literally every meta legendary to be banned. Get creative. And the bans as far as I can tell are tournament wide. IE no one can use a banned card.
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>>168775156
yeah see this is getting crazy. you can hardly call this standard. why am i supposed to think this is a good idea?
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>>168775212
I suppose its a real deckbuilding challenge. Try to see what garbage you can make op. Is this taunt warrior's time to shine? Only you can find out.
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>>168775291
i see. might as well call it that then though, instead of standard like the OP says. could be fun though, but still, this kind of detail needs to be in the op dude. all you know is that theres a card ban. people need to know what kind of tourney theyre signing up for at least
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>>168761267
>Dusting Reno and Brann

Extremely well deserved
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>Dirty rat pulls kripps Deathwing on turn 6
Incoming 20 hours of Salt to make up for that.
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>shamans running devolve
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>tfw playing a pally goons deck vs midrange jade

Did they not notice the difference in power level between these two gangs?
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>>168775806
If you're trying to outvalue a midrange deck with an aggro deck you're doing it wrong
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>>168775806
goons should be nerfed desu
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>>168777189

I was trying out a midrange goons deck but could never get anything to stick, why the fuck are shaman running devolve now as well
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>Kripp losing at rank 11 standard
>starts losing at rank 25 wild
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Tourney guy, can you announce a a time you'll get on EU battle net today? For submissions and stuff.
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>>168775343
It's Standard because Wild cards are forbidden, moron.
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>>168777516
>playing N'zoth deck against Shaman
>struggling to keep up
>baited 2 hexes before playing Cairne and Tirion
>play Tirion
>devolve
fucking shamans man
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>>168781028

I'm surprised Cairne still makes it into N'Zoth decks
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No.

>cardban
A selected card that will not be permitted for use in the entire tournament. Every competitor gets a sole choice, and the general gets a few to do as well

>deckban
When you enter your series, both players will have 4 decks with them. Each player will select one of their opponent's decks for banning, which will prevent their opponent from using that deck in the series. If you feel your lineup is bad against Zoolock, you can ban your opponent's Warlock to try and get the jump on him lineup-wise.

>>168779216
I will try and be awake at 11am EST (4pm GMT), however you can always reach me at my email address, [email protected]
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>>168781609
Whoops lel meant to quote >>168773976

>>168774961
Sorry about that, it's difficult for my NA client to message Yuros for some reason, I have to be in the actual game client to message them. Hence why you should look to email me for any issues. Again, my email is [email protected].

Despite the cardbans, the format is using the sets currently used in the Standard Format, so I still call the tournament's format "Standard".

As >>168775291 put it, that's the point of the tournament. Make some crazy deck that might have some real power to it once powerhouse meta stuffs are in the trash. No Minions Warrior, Tiger OTK Pally, Mageordomo, Zoolock, all these decks can be feasible.
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>tfw worried about making a mistake in front of all my /hsg/ bros
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>>168781789
Just vape your worries away anon
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>>168781220
it's great
N'zoth can summon cairne once all your good deathrattle minions got entombed, hexed, polymorphed, polymorphed: boar, mind controled and polymorphed (created by kabal courier) or polymorphed (created by Kazakus).
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>>168781789
Don't worry, you can never make as big a mistake as Thrillhouse.
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>>168781761
>that one time /hsg/ banned yeti
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I want to play Brolock: a Warlock based around being an awesome wingman and giving the other player free shit like cards, mana cystals, free spells etc.

Kind of wish I had Dark Fisher for this.
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>>168782112
The funniest part for me was that DonCacturne was forced to adhere to this ban with his Basic Deck lineup.
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>>168781761
>tiger OTK pally

I don't know what this is but I want to play it
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>>168782542
see >>168781962
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Whenever I feel bad for playing face warrior I just queue up with Reno rogue and lose to 3 aggro decks in a row.

Gone are the feelbads and back to face warrior I go.
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>Play hunter deck
>Get credit for playing 1 Warrior Card quest
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>>168782874
a lot of people still don't know this but alongside cabal jade and pirates there is actually a fourth gang called goons, this includes Paladin. Hunter, and Warrior.
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>>168782874
grimestreet goons cards
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>>168761267
A: Spend 2800 gold to get them + a bunch of other cards
B: Spend 16.000 gold to get the packs to 8 legendaries to dust in order to craft reno and brann.
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does anybody here remember the WELL MET meme?
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>>168784391
i still smile whenever uther says hello
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>>168783089
why are goons so fucking garbage senpai?
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>>168784240
That's retarded
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WHY THE FUCK DOESNT HEARTHSTONE HAVE COOL FIELD EFFECTS JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HOW CAN THEY SQUANDER THE POTENTIAL OF THIS GAME SO MUCH
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>>168784610

Field effects are not cool ;)
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>>168784610
Mobile gaming.
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>>168774440
Priest has always been and will always the worst cancer to come to Hearthstone.
>hurr I don't have le good le cards but I will play yours XDDDD
Daily reminder to neck yourself if you play priest.
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>>168784861

>*removes your minion*
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rate
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>>168784941
At least Hex, Polymorph etc. are honest cards you put in your own deck, not niggered from mine
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>>168784964
shittier Frost Nova/10
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enough for the next expansion? or should i just keep doing dailies in this shitty meta
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>>168785041

Sounds like Priest has got in your head.

Like they're somehow controlling your mind ;^)
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>>168784610
Field/Aura cards that change the entire field or your half of it and have interesting effects on tribes.

Fire/Lava field, nature field, beast field, murloc field, demon field, elemental field , pirate field, and so on.

Especially with the visuals of Hearthstone it could actually look great.
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>>168785127
You need around 150 packs per expansion to have a somewhat comfortable amount of the cards to play what you want, with still a decent amount of crafting involved.
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>>168784610

Literally the one thing about this game I like is that there isn't a bunch of superfluous garbage floating around to please simpleton fuckplebs like you.
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So, when are we going to get more deck slots?
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>>168785714
You mean superfluous garbage like the entire game board and the card animations?

You're arguing against literally the thing that Hearthstone does over other CCG's.
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>>168785127

just keep stacking gold until the exp, I was fine with 10k
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tfw loot hoarder is absolute shit but it used to be ok
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I wish I realized sooner how easy it is to get 100 gold with paladin. Wasted 2 days of 100g.

Gonna try and make up for it by getting mondays 100g after midnight today.
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>>168785929

>That will be $15 plus tip.
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>>168785929
Remember the Ben Brode statement talking about how we shouldn't make all these assumptions about how it would be so easy to implement deck slots?

They were going through MANY design iterations and implementing more deck slots wasn't some simple solution like making a longer list.

>once deck slots are released, we'll all see why it took the extra time to get it out.
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>>168786308
post dick
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>>168786308
>fast way to farm wins
>working 30 mins still beats it by 10 fold
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Why were people mad at resurrect priest? In hindsight it's a pretty shit deck
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>>168786628
Mulligan for all card draw / lay on hands, win on turn 1.

>>168786674
I'm watching tv/documentaries, shitposting on here and doing other stuff while playing out my 10 second turns now and then. :^) So much work to do this when you can just casually do it while doing pretty much anything else at the same time.
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>>168785714
hows that mtgo working out for you? Hearthstone clearly isn't the game for you.
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>>168786796
Same reason people get mad at any <30% winrate deck

It's shit all the time except for the one time when you're the opponent, then he just gets perfect draw and his Barnes pulls out a Rag that gets back up with the next two Resurrects cast
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Averaging 7.0 wins after 14 arena runs.

top 100 I'm cummin *for you*
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>>168786796
Because the ridiculously high variance makes it frustrating as fuck to play against. Game is literally decided on resurrect rolls.
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>>168787147
Post tag and I'll spectate your next run.
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>>168787197

i hate people spectating me because they tell me what to do and make me second guess myself and it's irritating :~)
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>>168787243
Good luck getting in the top 100 with your 4 win average at 30 games.
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>>168787178
>Game is literally decided on rolls
Fixed that for you so you can apply it to the entirety of Hearthstone.
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>>168787347

I'd have to average ~1.4 wins over the next 16 runs to average 4 wins over 30.

I'm looking forward to that collapse. Would be an epic story to tell my friends.
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>>168787523
Still post your battletag so we can see you on the leaderboards after this month.
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>>168787609

I'll screenshot it if I'm there when they release the list :~)
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>>168786930
is this autism?
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Is it just me or are the decks above rank 10 all super greedy random trash lists that run all deathrattle and N'Zoth?

Tried playing Mid-Jade Shaman and lost to random trash lists, switched to Pirate Warrior and literally won 8 in a row now.
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>>168788038
This is me btw :^)
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>>168788161

nice ;~)
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>>168787243
>look at me mommy im claiming stuff on the internet again!
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I'm going to play stupid meme decks in this tournament and then you'll all love me
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>>168788038
I'm at a 9 win average in 20 runs but I will tell you what my name is on the top 100 list when it comes out :)
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>>168788350

i'm glad we can all be on the list together! :~~)
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>tfw 5 wins is my highest
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wew lad
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How do I not get completely buttfucked by priests?
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>>168788993
You get past rank 19 and stop playing agains them.
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>>168788089
No it's what a cardgame looks like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXG5rNe_tI
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>>168788993

-1 SI
-1 Lotus Agents
+2 Gadgetzan Auctioneer

Get one big dick swing turn with Gadget/Prep/Sap/trades. If you're going full burgletism, Play Brann and that ethereal qt that discounts cards. Probably removing Journey Below and a Shadow Strike.
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>>168789170
wow this is really boring
i'll stick with hs
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>All spells in starting hand
Mmhm
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>>168789170
pretty sure this is actually autism
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>When Shaman thinks devolve will save him after I played N'zoth
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>>168788924
gz on 30g
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>>168789873
>living to turn 10
how's rank 16
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>>168789949
Yeah thanks, fit nicely into watching the latest episode of my weeb garbage :^)
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I rolled the spectator quest, anyone mind letting me watch them?
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>>168790297
can't be arsed to play ladder and shaman/priest is boring as fuck to play. sorry m8
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>>168790297
post tag and region m8
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>>168790362
NA ZeldaFitz #1136
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why should Blizzard care about f2p niggers at all? they don't contribute anything to the economy of the game, and they suck precious bandwidth away from actual paying customers. they spend their free time playing a game that they refuse to support in any meaningful way. they do not contribute, they only consume.

they are also the most entitled bunch of whiners in the industry. tell me again why Brode should cater to a host of entitled babies who think high quality entertainment should be free?
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>>168790542
because f2p games like HS get their monies from whales, and whales like to play games that have people playing them.
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>>168790542
why do you post bait, it's ok to say things without being violent or aggressive you know
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>>168788993
If you're not going full burgle complete with the 5 mana 5/6s, then you may as well not bother though
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>>168790542
without f2p players this game would be completely dead, don't you get it.
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if the brawl guy keeps getting all those wins i'm gonna have to spend 1.5 bucks next week to get 2 packs to not fall behind
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>>168781962
slowtk
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>>168790775
That's another 50 bucks on top of your 150 bucks per year at minimum already m8 :^)
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>>168790542
there are different tiers of f2p
currently there is no pretty cheap f2p entry level that allows you to play a bit
and when the stuff goes through it will become an actually very high barrier
so in a sense you will get a game where only whales are playing because even the average cuck cant justify spending a lot and getting a little
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>>168790542
>spent£150
>still consider myself f2p
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>>168789572
>>168789436
>mfw hs is literally the same but dumbed down with animations on top
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>>168790542
>why should Blizzard care about f2p niggers at all?
Because it's a f2p game and that's where the majority of their playerbase comes from.

I don't mind spending money on a game, but the whole business model of booster packs coupled with high cost of entry moves the game away from pay2win into pay2play territory at which point calling it free2play is a blatant lie and I'd much rather just pay money for a complete game or expansion rather than this bullshit.

This is why I liked adventures, but just adding preconstructed decks and doubling the gold for 3 wins (even if they keep the 100/day limit) would game a lot more playable for f2p players.

Right now it's just designed to fleece people with collection autism, gambling addictions or just weak willpower.

tl;dr - nobody likes jews
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>>168790610
>>168790861
>>168791272
can we at least all agree that the anons who post here every day yet clearly hate the game and refuse to spend a single penny on it are the epitome of self-defeating autists
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>>168791272
Don't forget that every investment you make is literally 99% garbage after 4 months.

So you HAVE to get 150 packs to be able to play around with the release rotation of a new expansion. And then with the next set you're down to using 5 of the cards, but needing a minimum of 150 packs of the new set again.

3/143 old god cards are in tier 1 decks right now :^)
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>>168784610
The only game where field effects where done well and okay is Megaman Battle network games. And it's not even a card game.
I'm glad Hearthstone doesn't have them.
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>>168791442
No son, it would be autism if you'd spend money on a game while you're only waiting it out to see if it improves.

Rational people would not spend money on things they don't like.

Shiteating anti-consumerist corporate shill blizzdrones who spend tons of cash on every thing they release and then yell and whine how you have to be grateful that Blizzard even made this *for you* and you need to keep supporting them, are the autists.
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>>168785929
They can't add more deck slots because they don't know how to do that. The 9 extra we good isn't actually extra deck slots, just the 9 basic decks unlocked for the player to edit them. Coding more slots, potentially infinite is too hard for incompetent mongoloids.
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>>168791078
except it's not the same at all
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Is there a list of currently banned card so I can fix my decks?
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>>168791640
keep dreaming, hsbaby
bet you consider yourself superior
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>>168791442
I enjoy the game, but only because I have spent money on it and that doesn't mean I have to agree with their payment structure either.

I know you're just fishing for (you)s, but this post reminds me of that reddit screenshot someone posted the other day saying "the game's so generous already, I don't even understand why you're complaining."
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>>168790542
Who are the whales going to play against when there are no f2p player.


I assume you just copied one of the many retarded posts from reddit that state basically the same as this. But anyone who makes a claim like this has obviously no understanding on how f2p games work. f2p player are as important as whales for the success of the game. Without f2p player, the game will have less player which means less whales will come and spend money. It's an eco system where the number of f2p dictates how successful the game will be. That's why the most successful f2p games are those where even the one playing completely for free still have a nice enjoyable game. There they don't have to invest half a day into the grind and still be able to compete with the whales.

The successful f2p games are those that put the whale, after they pay, on the same level as the f2p player that grinds a reasonable amount of time or slightly (important word) ahead of them. If the paid aspect feels like it's p2w, the f2p player will slowly leave and the game will slowly die. Now, that's not a bad design practice if you don't plan for the game to be a long term income source. You want to monetize the hell out of it for a while and more one, like many mobile games do. From a business point of view, that's a valid strategy.

However, Hearthstone is a card game. Card games are games that, if done right, can live for decades. Yes, decades. Currently Team Shit is going for the standard mobile shit practices, completely ignoring that what they earn now is nowhere near what the game could earn if they made it a long term success on par with Magic or Yugioh. But for that to happen, it needs the f2p player to be happy. Why? Because unlike MTG and Yugioh, Hearthstone is a digital game. People are not willing to invest as much money in virtual cards that they don't even own compared to real cards. Your Hearthstone collection is worth $0 even if you invested $10000.
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>>168791442
i spend some money on it everytime and i feel really sad a week later everytime
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I'm fucked if I'm unwilling to craft Patches, right?
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>>168792132
Goi stay with the times. STB is being nerfed in 9 days, we don't know if patches will still be useful.
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>>168790775
Getting the ~600 gold is pretty nice boost before the expansion while doing something else while it's not your turn.
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>>168791824
i consider myself superior because i am
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Why isn't patches run in literally every deck with any 1 drop pirate? Even without a weapon STB+Patches is still 2/3 for 1 mana.
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>>168792228
Don't forget the brawl games take 1.2 turns on average.
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>>168791442
The problem is that those people love the game but hate what it's becoming. That's why some people are so aggressive about it. They love it, but they see something they love getting butchered expansion after expansion after expansion while other people applaud Ben for making it even worse and more expensive.
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>>168792317
I love playing Druid so it's more like 2 turns on average. Still fun, fast and I do something else while I wait.
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>>168792309
Because drawing into patches before a pirate is terrible and you need 4 pirates minimum to have a good chance of pulling one before you pull patches. The decks that havent been running patches are more mid range or control oriented and lose more than they gain from playing him.
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>get amazon coins deal
>HS shop gets stuck on waiting for authorisation

Serves me right
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>>168792227

I think patches will still work just because it's still Living Roots with upside.
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>>168792712
Hahahaha please tell us about your regret after opening your garbage.
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>make the Paladin brawl deck some anon posted
>hard mulligan for card draw
>get shit hand
>emote well met
>summon boar
>give it +4/+4
>about to end my turn
>enemy concedes
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>>168791812
icelance
power overwhelming
azure drake
ragnaros
sylvanas
conceal

the ban isn't in effect until blizz patches the server tho.
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>>168792852
I mean the tornament bans, but thanks anyway!
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>tfw 2 gold azure drakes
>tfw 2 gold icelances
>tfw 2 gold power overwhelming
>tfw 1 gold conceal
>tfw all 3 legends

gonna be rolling in so much dust patch day.
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>>168792912
>tfw all 3 legends
What 3?
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>>168792904
will be announced later.
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>>168792962
syl
rag
the guy that turns minions into a 1/1 or a 5/5 iirc
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>>168793038
Tink? He was nerfed long ago, no fucking way they're touching him again.
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>>168792794

>tfw
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>>168793038
>the guy that turns minions into a 1/1 or a 5/5 iirc
Who mentioned Thinkmaster?
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>>168793092
>>168793167
i thought i heard that somewhere....
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>>168793161
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>>168793204
Enjoy having wasted 3200 dust
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>>168793248
im not the guy that crafted stuff
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why the FUCK is China so terrified of skellies???
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I'd actually love to see tink unnerfed
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>>168793337
Reincarnation is illegal in china and becoming a skeleton is kind of a reincarnation.
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>>168793337
Their government is smart. Have fun with your skellington invasion, faggot
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>>168793431
ChingChong go back behind your wall.
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>>168793392
>>168793337
>skeletons are illegal in china
>break your leg and have the bone stick out
>be fined with bullets
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>>168792319
The straw that broke the camel's back was releasing more turbocancer after failing to fix the already turbocancer of shaman. The salt in the wound was their coming forward saying that they were extremely happy about the state of the rock paper scissors meta.
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>>168793221

I also got Patches and Krul

So I'm pretty upset
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Just hit rank 5 with Murloc Rogue

>And /hsg/ said crafting Finja was a mistake
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>>168793868
they also said they had were really surprised people put jade and pirates in the same deck. whoever playtests over there has no concept of strong deckbuilding.
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>>168794024
>Why would you put them into the same deck? They are completely different themes! AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>168794015
Finja is the sleeper card of msog. I wouldn't be surprised if murlocs replace pirates in aggro shaman after the patch
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>>168794015

>Azure Drake

Bbrode was right
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>>168794024
I wouldnt be surprised if STB made it through because they made full on pirate decks instead of trimming the fat and making an actually competitive deck.
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>>168794024
In their "defense", they admitted that they only have 4 people play testing the game. What do you expect from a small indie company?
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cards that should also have been rotated
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anon pls show me ur mighty dick
kregorius#2289 EU
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>Login and prepare for losing to pirate warriors and aggro shamans all day
>Reno Lock
>Anyfin Paladin
>Beast Hunter
>Dragon Warrior

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING HAPPENING ON EU
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>>168794556
with flamewaker gone tempo mage is dead so why bother
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>>168794629
It always bothered me that EU has less netdecks so I actually have to test the meta myself and play around that rather than just reading what's popular and teching against that.
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>>168794543
What does finding the exact rate a deck is played at have to do with squashing busted cards?
It shouldn't take a genius to see that STB and patches alone result in an oppressive early game, never mind when you tack on win axe and buffs or tempo oriented jade shenanigans.
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I dont think there is an archetype I dislike more than murlocs

They have literally always been the LOL SO RANDUMB XD race and they're the exact same in hearthstone

I never understood why everyone seems to love them
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>>168795085
why do you hate fun anon?
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>>168795085
Because they were a joke tribe that was actually viable as far back as classic with wurlock.
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How the fuck do people get a positive winrate with this piece of shit paladin in the brawl?
I always end up with a dead draw. Either never draw buffs or draw nothing but buffs without minions.

Druid is infinitely better than this.
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>>168795302
draw your draw cards
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>>168795085
Building decks around an actual theme is more fun than just slapping the best 30 cards you can together and calling it a deck.

Is Murloc Tidehunter a good card? No, but you play it because it synergizes with your deck
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>>168795302
You are a complete retard. I had like 70% winrate over 60 games. You are guaranteed a turn one kill in the majority of games.
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>>168795434
Yeah, and I keep drawing nothing but the draw cards until I don't have enough health to cast my buffs.
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reminder that every nerf indirectly buffs shaman
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>>168795591
This one certainly didn't.
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>>168795302
same ive basically been stacking draw cards and then dropping immunity minion on 3 always me to just no brain draws and seems to work at least decently enough
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>>168795701
This is how my hand almost always ends up.

Either I get nothing but minion or nothing but buffs or nothing but card draw until I don't have health to use the buffs that I draw from the bottom of my deck.
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>>168795670

>he unironically thinks that the aggro nerf isn't a buff to jade midrange shaman
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>This is rotated into the next standard format

Will you play him?
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>>168795854
Oh look, another great hand.
Just after I mulliganed 2 boars and a patches.
Either I'm the unluckiest person on earth or Paladin inconsistent as fuck compared to all the other brawl decks.
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>>168795954
>4-mana 6/6 with a significant downside
is this bait
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>tfw watching streamers on the verge of suicide over how boring the game is
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>>168796079
>inconsistent

My winrate only dropped a bit today because some classes started techning in some turn 1 taunts.
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>>168795954
Exclusively in Priest, and only in a slow meta.
Everywhere else it's way too much of a liability against aggro cause your opponent can just run a Patches into it and Cursed Blade you to death.
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>>168796734
I guess I'm the unluckiest person on earth then, since most of the times I lose without having anything worthwhile to play even after hard mulligan.
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>>168796961
You might be playing your draws wrong. You play your 1 draws first in case you draw a Divine Favor. You maximize Favor and then go for lay on hands.

You're usually drawing half your deck, there is nothing inconsistent about it.
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>>168794627
>>168794627
anyone pls
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>>168797105
No, I know how to draw.
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Devolve is such a fucking cancer card.
How can you play around this fucking trash card.
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>>168797421
devolve is a really bad card
most of the time it does nothing
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>>168797421
Don't play the game.
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>>168797421
>we think silence is bad for the game so we're nerfing it
>prints 2 mana aoe silence for best class
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>>168797501
maybe against jades

against pirate boards is fucking fantastic
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When are the nerfs hitting the game?
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>>168797632
Not really a silence. It removes also part of the stats 90% of the times.
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>>168797740
Why does it matter?
The meta will get stall in 5 hours after the nerfs hit.
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>>168797501
That's exactly what I said. It's a trash card that shouldn't be played around like Flamestrike or Consecration.
But then retards go and put it in their decks and transforms your 4 mana 5/4 into a 3 mana 1/1.
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>>168797740

did you miss midrange shaman that much?
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find a better Cucktrol Warrior list than this.

go ahead, I'm waiting.
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>>168797838
Because I am spamming Jade Shaman at rank 5 and I'm sick of le heh, greetings red man of many wepins
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when your opponent carefully crafts a deathrattle board and you cast devolve
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>>168797983

>i am very angry i wasn't able to play a midrange shaman deck
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>>168797983
>I'm mad that I'm cancer and I'm facing other cancer on ladder!!!1
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God this was a damn long turn 1 kill.
Fucking animations taking an hour to finish.
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en tit led
lol
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Yo guys, what card should I ban? I really don't give a shit about the bans anyway
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>>168799426
tinyfin
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I don't know why, but whenever I play Paladin I get the urge to spam WELL MET!

>>168799426
Not really a rule, but ban discussions are frowned upon. Pick whatever you don't like facing against.
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>>168799426
wisp
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thx for the suggestions
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>>168799669

shiggy diggy hope you ban shaku
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>hunter plays a Huffer and 2 CotW on turn 1

This shit feels more disgusting than t1 kills from Paladin or Druid.
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>>168799426
ban reno, if it's already banned, ban flamewaker
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>As many of our player have noticed, with the addition of 1 extra expansion and removal of an adventure, the game got overall more expensive. People who are playing the game purely free are not able to keep up with the card releases anymore and in order to help them out we decided to introduce some new changes on earning in-game gold.
>1. We will raise the gold cap for 200 gold a day.
>2. To compensate for that the player will earn 5 gold instead of the current 10 gold for every 3 wins.
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>>168801117
THANKS
BEN
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>>168801117
T-Thanks, just need to win 120 games a day to get that sweet sweet f2p gold.
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>>168801309
you're assuming a 50% winrate?

oh right....
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>>168801117
this is not real right?
lmao this literally can't be real
you stupid ben brode poster i don't know what's real anymore
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>>168801393
I meant to say wins but you're still a retard.

With a 50% winrate you'd need 240 games.
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>>168801117
Holy shit I can't believe this!
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>tfw the only way I was able to keep up f2p is through the amazon exploit and botting
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>>168801432
It's a joke.
But I did a great Ben impression if I may say so myself. And I wouldn't be surprised if something like that happened.
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/playhearthstone/OutstandingShrimpArsonNoSexy
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>>168801117
Hearthstone is saved!

Take my money Blizzard!
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>next expansion
>broken hunter/paladin deck
>nerf the common card instead of the legendary or epic
thanks for the dust blizzard
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>>168801665
They essentially just nerfed two legendaries, are you dense?
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>>168801585
Lethal: Siphon the Taunt, PO and go face, Hellfire
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>>168801570
you did it was scary
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>>168801721
I think you are
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all 8 of these are going to the bahamas:
docpwn vs leomane
young savage vs frozen
tarei vs lucas
drjikiniki vs wot

the young savage vs pavel dream is alive boys

starts in a few minutes

>docpwn the rank 50 absolute shitter top kekd his way through misplays and playing aggro himself, qualified for a free trip to the bahamas and god knows how many earnings hes sitting on already just from this
this is what happens when tier 1 decks can top kek their way to turn 4 lethal
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>>168790542
>hs
>economy
Are you retarded?
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>>168802025
you are
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How many games before casters miss lethal?
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>>168802025
It's a one-way economy where you pay actual money for virtual goods. Kind of a retarded thing to call it, but there is "currency" and "goods" with an "exchange rate"

Blizzard does need to start catering to the paying customers though, and in more way than just giving us more shit to waste our money on.
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>>168802316
-1.
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>>168802006
thanks for the heads up
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>>168802316
As soon as a Flame Totem lethal or complicated sequencing comes up.
Usually they figure it out when it's just burst from hand+board, but they have shit the bed on that before.
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>m-muh UI
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It would be nice if there were more interactivity on your opponent's turn
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>>168803035
This card would single handedly kill mill
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>>168803147

Mill is already dead anon

Until I resurrect it in the tournament
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>>168803441
Fuck off I wanted to play Mill
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>>168803441
>>168803568
don't fight guys

we can all play mill
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>>168803441
>>168803568
Someone should ban coldlight oracle.
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>pronouncing "anti-aggro" antaye aggro
americans
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Yay legendary on NA.
Alright which card ?
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>>168803761
I DREAM, AND THE WORLD TREMBLES.
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>>168803761
I can sit and fish all day!
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If i craft golden hall of fame cards and dust them after refund would i get more dust than from my owned nomal cards?
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>>168803848
>>168803918
We hunger for vengance.
Only other legendary I ever opened on NA is Thalnos. Totally not rigged.
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>>168803147
The card would still be milled when you overdraw, and it wouldn't work off the mulligan
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>>168803998
If you craft all the goldens and then disenchant them after the patch you get something like 3,7k dust, but you need like 10k dust to do it
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>>168803998
No, but you buy yourself the option to make the decision to not want the golden cards whenever you please, and you get an additional copy, so you can dust the regular version if you intend to keep the golden.

Basically if you have plenty of dust and might care about the golden cards it grants you the option with no downsides other than having your dust being stuck in the golden legendary.

For many longer players this doesn't really matter, but if 10k dust is a lot for you then perhaps limit yourself to a big golden card and ignore the rest. Although crafting the commons golden does net you +40 dust total or something because of different dust ratios.
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>>168803761
I bring life and breasts
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>>168803848
>>168803918
>>168804298
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>>168804078
It's 100% rigged. There is no way that in every single expansion in 6 legos I open a duplicate while still missing most of them.
Same for epics. I have a ridiculous amount of doubles. I unpacked six (6) Small-Time Recruits while I did't unpack even 20% of the epics.

The packs are rigged to increase the chance of unpacking cards you already own.
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>>168804471
Back in classic (+naxx) I used to buy a ton of classic packs. I unpacked NINE bestial wrath and like multitudes of 4-6 other garbage epics.

Two years later I still have yet to unpack a single cabal shadow priest, ancient of lore and ice block.

Also I didn't unpack the rare card equality, shieldmaiden and another one I forgot right now until a couple of months ago.
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>>168804742
Oh right I also got like 7 gladiator longbows and 4 far seer.
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>>168804742
I just recently found out I don't have any Pyromancer after over a year of playing.
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Is there a known bug with Reno just not activating?

I played him without adding any cards to my deck after a 1 HP Iceblock, didn't get the heal. My opponent was playing Control Shaman and he didn't put anything in my deck, as far as I know.

The fuck Brode
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>>168804471
if you open 6 legos in a 20 lego expansion the odds are 56% that two of them are duplicates
look up the birthday paradox while you're at it
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>>168804471
This is why the epics/expansions are so harmful in general. They are required for many unique decks, but only suit one specific deck. They are extremely hard to pull, let alone pull twice because most often you get straight up garbage.

So in the end people aren't going to sink the dust into decks that require those epics.
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>>168805096
you probably played a torch from your deck and a discovered torch
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>>168804471
>33 Classic legendaries
>Open 2 legendaries
>Both thalnos

>Have unpacked 2 Bestial Wrath, maybe 5 or 6 Blood Knight, 5 or 6 Warleaders, 1 Patient Assassin, 1 Kidnapper
>Never unpacked any Giant, Faceless, BGH, Brawl, Prep, Nether,
>Only opened 1 Shield Slam last week
>Had to craft my 2 Cabal Shadow Priest
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>>168805221

That's it, thanks.
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>>168796079
>>168795854
>>168795701

I've been trying the deck out and started farming out my wins since yesterday and I really don't see what your problem is.

I happened to record a couple shadowplay clips which I quickly threw in a short clip. But of course I don't win every single deck but I have a far higher winrate than 50%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPf4DhZnjY0
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>>168802537
Yeah u were right..
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>>168754016
Any chance we can see the current banned card list? I'd hate to waste my ban on Reno or Flamewreathed Faceless if someone already banned them, and I'd hate to pass on banning them as well if no one else has.
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>23 health isnt safe
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>>168806303
You will be informed if your pick is already banned.
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>>168806417
Eh... why not just make the list public? Or is it meant to be a surprise so we have to suddenly rework our decks?
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>>168806308
remember when blizzard was mad about 14 damage from angry trees
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>>168806552
Its so there is no collective steering of bans.
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>>168806586
How much time will we have between learning the ban list and start of the tournament?
I'd be cutting it close with the tourny start time as it is, so I should probably just not do this one.
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>>168806764
No idea ask the tourney guy.

The NA one is the week after the EU one but it wasn't made clear until recently. I don't really care, its a fucking free meme tournament.
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>>168806572
i wasnt there for that meta
i wish i was though
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thanks doc
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>>168807275
Hues btfo
>>
you know I want to join this but i'm reading the posts in here and I know almost fuck all of what you're even talking about. once I fill in the form, then what happens?
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I filled the form in, sent the email. Do I just turn up on the date now? How many decks?
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so, wild murloc shaman?
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These are Conquest Bo3 rules?


24 Sep 2015
(Edited)

Hello there!

So, i played in a local school tourney last night with my friends for great fun.
During the first round robbin phase we had some trouble about the format.
RR matches were Bo3 and (as i was told) Conquest, with 3 decks.
In my understanding, in this case you pick 2 from your decks and have to win with both.
Altough my opponent used all three of his decks and won 2-1.

It turned out according the tournament rules it was right, but in this case you can't call this format Conquest.

I browsed through several online tournament rulebooks which use bo3 Conquest format, and most of them did't clarify this case, except this one: https://thenuel.com/tournament/summerHearthstone#rules

I'd like to ask your opinions about this case and clear this misunderstanding.
Here is the tourney rulebook for reference:

-Players must summit 3 different classes to play
-Players can only use these classes to play
-Round Robbin phase is Bo3. The player who wins with 2 of his/her classes from the submitted 3 wins.
-From each group first 2 players advance to the single elimination phase, tiebraker is win/lose ratio.
-When a player wins a game, the deck used by the winning player cannot be used for the remainder of the match.
-The losing player can keep the same deck used or switch to a different one of their choice.
-During a Bo3 match players can't change their decks, otherwise they can (i can't get this rule desu)
-Single elimination phase is Bo5, the player who wins with each 3 of his/her decks wins.
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>>168807913
>rank 20
this would never hold up higher

Man I'm getting pissed off even in wild since fro mrank7 and on its all pirate warrior/shaman and renolocks. Fuck you tempoStorm metasnapshop and fuck the damn sheep that follow it
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>>168791824
Sorry mtgcuck, it's a shit dying cash grab game, check mtg card sales since hs was released too btw :^)
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Nevermind my posts I didn't read anything lul, have done now.
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>>168808054
yeah, desu, this was cherrypicked out of 4 games i lost
but its stupid fun to drop the finishers and everyfin then bloodlust the next turn to drop em from 30-0
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>>168807898
the ban list will be released in a few days, after that you'll pick 4 classes and send them to tourney guy
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When your opponents are lucky little whores
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>>168807430
>>168807898
did you mail your ban to tourney guy? If you did, you just wait until the bans are out so you can pick four classes (and mail them to tourney guy) to play in the tourney
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Pavel did it, pavel broke amnesiac mind.
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Young savage is doomed
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>>168809324
You can't break what's already broken.
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is frozen our guy
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>>168809523
No
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>aggro rogue
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Aggro rogue is the most garbage deck I have ever seen in HCT event. What was he thinking.
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>>168809556
but he's beating young "savage" and he has a really cool demeanor
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>>168809523
Why does he always look like has some insane headache?
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why the fuck is aggro rogue all over ladder
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>>168809724
the cucks at vicious syndicate or tempostorm or w/e have given the playerbase permission to play it
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>Rank 15
>Play Reno Mage
>Drop to rank 17 playing against stupid meme decks like Anyfin Shaman, Combo Hunter and 2 Mind Control 2 Entomb Elise Priest
I don't understand this game
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>>168809324
What happened?
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>>168809693
making big brain plays
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>Please leave some tunage for the stream
the who of the what now?
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>>168809724
reddit morons just copy paste vicious syndicate which is built upon "statistics" on 0.0000000001% of the ladder extrapolated to form a "meta" snapshot. the good thing is most people misplay these decks so free wins.
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>>168809892
it means donate
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>everybody talking about some stream
>no talk about the hall of fame
nobody cares about that anymore? did I miss the shitstorm here?
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>>168809826
Nigga I went from 10 to 6 and now back to 9 since the game decided that fuck it, its time to play deck that counters me nonstop since I was winning nonstop with some grinder-mage like deck. After being fed-up of playing vs renolock and priest, I switch and oh surprise surprise, vs pirates again and deranking as well.

fuck this game I hate it so much, just loss 4 hours of nothing by going from 10 to 6 and back to almost 10. I cannot afford to play for 4h just to be pissed off, this is not what videogames are about.
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>>168810017
that news almost a week old now anon
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>>168808195
they've been going up, because people try hearthstone, realize the game has no depth, and look for something better (mtg)
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>>168810017
>did I miss the shitstorm here?
yeah, you're way too late for that subject
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>>168810017
>shitstorm
what shitstorm? I'm happy to get free dust since I play wild anyways
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>>168810017
Nothing to discuss. You get "free" dust at the cost of losing 6 key cards in good decks forcing you to buy more packs while at the same time they bumped up the cost of the game by a lot.
It's just awful.
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>>168810529
>losing
why would anyone play standard right now ,its horrible
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>>168810017
minor charity of a few thousand dust so idiots forget they increased the price of the game by 33% in 1 day.
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>>168810603
Are you implying wild pirates are any better?
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>they pumped the cost of the game by a lot
its a card game guys, jesus fucking christ how can you not understand this. I play mtg and guess what, you need to get the news cards if you play standard/modern. oh my what a fucking shock!

>inb4 b-but its digital!
Same business model
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>>168810603
wild is basically the same meta as standard since MSG is the most power creeped expansion in HS history.
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>>168810621
>>168810529
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>>168810676
I have a waaay better time dealing with pirates in wild with cards like belcher & deathlord for example. There's a bunch of decks that work well against them, its just that people follow whatever TempoStorm puts up instead of countering the meta.
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>>168810741
>its a card game
if i see this retarded argument one more time i will go crazy. its a DIGITAL card game. there is no distribution or printing costs which is the reason for high costs in traditional card games. there is no reason why the price should be this high except for greed. you are an idiot if you think this game should be expensive just because it has digital cards in it.
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>>168810782
It's probably you who should go back there if you're okay with the huge price bump.
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>be amnesiac
>le ung savage
>bring 3 retarded non meta decks
>lose

He clearly got fucked by RNG
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>>168810964
Anon you are the retard who dont understand that its not how it SHOULD be but what it IS. Digital card games are adopting the same business model than paper ones since they are running the paper one out of business but must make money. It will stay that way, its the future of card games.

Card shop are closing left and right because people dont want to meet up together, they want to play at home, online, and are ready to pay.
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BASED FROZEN

YUNG SEWAGE BTFO
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did he deserve a trip to bahamas?
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>>168810741
don't bother with logical business practice here.
they don't care, they just want free shit for free because "muh jews" "muh blizzdrones" "muh f2p"
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>>168810967
yes i am okay with getting more cards and being able to craft what i want instead of paying 2800 gold for shit i don't want

if you want to complain about nothing you may join the reddit circlejerk anytime
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>>168811168
yes
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>>168811231
How are you going to craft those cards that you need?
My little retarded anon can't be this fucking retarded, can he?
>>
neat
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>>168810964
Actually you're a fucking retard for not understanding the most basic concepts of supply and demand
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>>168810741
>Same business model
That's like comparing car rentals to car sales and calling it the same business model. You need to compare it to other online card games and in that field it's the most expensive one out there.
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>>168811326
with my fucking dust
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>>168811209
>frogposting
They can just give out cards, or they can make the prices friendlier as they did with the starter pack and more people would be willing to shell out.
They don't NEED to charge anything.
>>
young savage :(

reminder that frozen is the son of a multi millionaire ceo and hes living the NEET dream
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>>168811153
that's how it is right now because the market is untapped. competitors don't need to price as high as blizzard and will under cut them until HS dies. You can see popularity of shadowverse exploding because it is priced fairly for a digital game. this should continue for 2017 where HS will see sharp decline.
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>>168811354
Mad jelly
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>>168811403
The supply is infinite dummy
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>>168811453
ceo of what?
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>>168811407
And where do you get that dust from?
Are you genuinely implying that 28 packs is enough to craft 4 key legendary cards that you can't play decks without on top of key epics, commons and rares?
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>>168811403
>citing supply and demand when supply is infinite

Kill yourself moron.
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jesus shit up with your eceleb twitch whore garbage

no one fucking cares, there are 95 people total that have posted in the thread
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>>168811209
>>168810741
It usually causes problems when developer shifts focus too much on making money. Thats why hots is shit, thats why diablo is losing audience to poe.

They are not releasing adventures in the next year exactly because of that reason. Will see what happens.

Currently there is no game to compete with hurtstone, but still its not exactly a good longterm plan.
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>>168811462
while you're right about competitors
>You can see popularity of shadowverse exploding
this is simply false. The game is still unknown by the fast majority of players. Pretty sure that all the casuals forming the core HS population have no idea what that game is.
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>>168811510
>>168811593
>supply and demand is only for physical products
"no"
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>>168811558
some big chinese thing or something idk but firebat mentioned it during NA vs CN
talking about how frozen has been trying to do a lot to bridge the hearthstone gap between the 2 regions too
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>>168811673
jap and korean casuals prefer SV
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>>168811593
>>168811510
Please tell me you're both merely pretending to be retarded.
I'll give you a chance to think about it for a second and admit you fucked up before I go at it.
But by all means if you honestly can't understand it feel free to reply and ask.
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>>168811559
with the thousands of gold i save between expansions like i have always done

>4 key legendary cards
nah cunt there's an average 1 good legendary per adventure. getting the shitty adventure legendaries is not the same as crafting 4 good legendaries
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>>168811702
I never said that
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>>168811593
>supply is infinite
No, this is not how it works anon. Digital doesn't mean infinite, otherwise nothing as value.

>>168811741
and who gives a fuck about them? I'm talking about white people here
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>>168811821
but now you need a lot more while on the same gold

also when you open packs of say 2 expansions, say you fill them out youre gonna unpack a lot of dust
but now comes a 3rd adventure, youre not gonna be unpacking that much dust because you first need to get a lot of cards before you get into the duplicate -> dust thing
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>>168811821
They're retiring classic legendaries you absolute fucking peach
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>>168811618
hi amnesiasc
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Been playing 2 weeks. I literally, physically, categorically cannot reach rank 17...

How are there so many good decks at rank 20? Why has every single fucker and their mother bought the expansions? Wish there was matchmaking based on total dust value or total money spent in game or something.

This game sucks, you guys warned me...
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docpwn vs frozen...
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>>168811834
But value is literally something that's made up
>>
>cucktrol warrior in charge of late-game
>>
>Fibonacci brings an entire anti-aggro lineup stacked to the max with control tools and weapon removal
>still gets absolutely BTFO by the aggro field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWmqXu_mryg

this game is shit.
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>>168812041
what the fuck does that have to do with my post? kill yourself
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>>168812160
>0-3
lol
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>>168811821
>with the thousands of gold i save between expansions like i have always done
And this is why you're retarded. You saved up thousands of gold between expansions exactly because there were adventures that cost you 2800 gold. Not because you're that good or something.

Without adventures, you won't be able to save t up, retard. You need around 110-130 card packs to get a reasonable collection and sitll play only meta decks unless you are retardedly lucky. Sorry anon, you're just there retarded part of that.

With adventures, you would manage to get 90-120 packs depending on how much you grind. Without adventures, you will be getting most around 70-90 packs per adventures, which is at best barely enough for 2 meta decks.

The gold you saved up will slowly dwindle. The dust you saved up will slowly dwindle. You lose gold faster than you can gain it, retard. That's why 3 adventures are the problem. Retard.

Take Ben's dick out of your fucking throat so that some air can enter your lungs and you brain gets some oxygen since you desperately need it, retard.
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>>168812049
Casual matches you against other new players, but ranked only matches based on rank so you run into all the pay2win shitters who ar bad at the game despite sinking money into it or the people who've been playing for more than a year and a half and somehow still suck.
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>>168812158
>vlps

btfo in prelims. btfo on ladder. most overrated player on esports team ever?
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>>168811834
Not him, but yes it does. They did not produce these cards physically. You could dump millions of dollars into your HS account and get as many copies of every card as you want.
However, unlike with magic, you cannot sell these cards. Magic has its own singles market, based off of supply and demand. Wotc only prints so many cards, and the popular ones shoot up in price. Prices often have little to do with the cards marked rarity too. There are commons worth more than some rares. Meanwhile in HS, junk epics are "worth" the same as good epics dust wise.

You cannot compare Hs card system to any sort of capitalistic supply/demand system. You're either retarded or a massive shill.
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>>168812378
top word
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>>168812454
He's just some dumb /pol/ guy who think the lolbertarians taught him economics
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>>168812618
>some dumb /pol/ guy
>not calling HS pricing a jewish conspiracy
Clearly not.
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what game has more disconnects than hearthstone?
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>>168812378
by all means quit the game since you hate it so much you broke fucking nigger. i know how to use my dust.
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>>168812684
/pol/ loves corporate dick
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>>168811834
You're right. Supply isn't infinitely. It's just so freaking insanely huge that it might as well be since we won't see any difference.

An yeah, the value isn't nothing, it's something. The something is development and distribution cost amortized on all the consumer, which is a few cent per card. Everything above that is pure profit.
Digital goods have barely any real value, the value is artificially forced upon by the publisher.
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Holy shit look how many shills are in this thread supporting Blizzard's business model. Why the fuck do people even do this unless they are paid by Blizzard? Why would you waste your Sunday defending a company's business practices that cost consumers more money? There are so many shills on the internet now i'm surprised they are even showing up on 4chan now.
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How the fuck do I get good cards without paying money
What the fuck
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>>168812829
you don't

LOL
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>>168812702
csgo
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>>168812702

Fifa 17
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>>168812783
>anyone defending anything they like is a shill
fucking kys, you and your retarded bandwagon mindset is the most cancerous thing to this website and any internet culture as a whole, honestly go be a fucking normie or something
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>>168812783
its just a few nu male beta cucks who turned 18 this year desu
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>>168812714
I think you should reread the last sentence in the post you quote.

>>168812783
The funny part is that they are actually telling people who are against a 40% bump in cost to go back to red dit.
Fucking anti-spam check. Fuck you moot.
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>>168812829
Are you this guy >>168812049 ?

Seriously, just stop playing ranked and netdeck some good basic decks if you haven't done so alredy then just play casual.

Once you feel you've gotten better at the game go play Arena because that's about all the fun you can have in this game as a new player.
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>>168812783
Speak with your wallet and don't buy anything. This should be easy for you
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>>168812959
>I like paying more for less content so stop attacking my Benny! His shit tastes delicious!
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>>168812454
>le smug anime face
You are focusing too much on the ability to sell your cards in a secondary market. Sure, you can't do that with digital cards unless you sell your account. You are also assuming "supply" literally only means "the physical amount of product available on Earth". Supply is not just the quantity of product available, it is a complicated mix of market factors. Just Wikipedia it.

For Hearthstone,
supply = price per pack, rarity of cards
demand = how much the consumer is willing to pay for a pack

The existence of gold just complicates everything. Regardless, you cannot assume that a digital product is infinitely available, otherwise it would have no demand. And clearly there is demand, otherwise Blizzard would not be in business.
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you guys are so FUCKING AUTISTIC
i feel right at home :)
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>>168813175
>>le smug anime face

>so retarded and out of touch with gaming that he doesn't recognize the most iconic Fire Emblem character of all times
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>>168813152
Yeah it's really going to be hard on my fuck tons of gold from dailys in this game I already spent the money on and am getting 3200 dust from, gee what a cash grab
That's fine if that was your opinion, my real problem is the fact that i've already seen you shitpost a million times. You people aren't even individuals to me anymore, you're just a bot that regurgitates autism.
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>>168812618
>someone with good moral who prefer white is instantly /pol/
shit site, shit values
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>>168813175
Hold the fuck up right there
>For Hearthstone,
>supply = price per pack, rarity of cards
This factor is totally influenceable by Blizzard
>demand = how much the consumer is willing to pay for a pack
This is also just false, there is no price discrimination, if one whale dumps a fuckton of money into the game, which they have it has repercussions on people with less disposable income who would be totally willing to pay for packs
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>>168812526
Lucas looks like THAT?
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>>168813419
Now you're just being retarded.
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>>168813547
>le epic site rivalry meme
You must realize this is exactly the kind of regurgitated autism I'm talking about right?
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>>168813450
>This factor is totally influenceable by Blizzard
I never said that it wasn't. What a firm is willing to supply is entirely up to them. So is the price scheme.

>This is also just false, there is no price discrimination, if one whale dumps a fuckton of money into the game, which they have it has repercussions on people with less disposable income who would be totally willing to pay for packs
Sounds like you are upset that some people have more disposable income than you. And that those people choose to invest their income into a particular product that they enjoy.

That's capitalism.
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>>168813651
>complains about site rivalry when he himself started it by telling people to back to plebbit
No wonder you shill on random sites on the internet by parroting the same garbage when you're too retarded for anything else.
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>>168813651
>le epic "le epic site rivalry meme" meme
Return to leddit
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What do you think /hsg/? Any suggestions.

I was thinking maybe I need more card draw.
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i bet the cucks come from outside the general and just randomly start arguing or something idk
pretty hard to imagine that you play the game with or without dropping and defend the cost, maybe if you are a big spender and you want to protect that advantage thats probably the only thing that would make sense
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>>168813801
"when he himself started it by telling people to back to plebbit"
You mean when I said go be a normie? yeah sure reddit is fine, just stop being a thoughtless drone in the places I post.
If you're about to post something and you ask yourself "has this probably been posted 3 or more thousand times this year?" and the answer is yes just don't post it.
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>>168813008
No, we're not the same person, I'm the second post you replied to.

So far, I've been spending all my quest gold on card packs, but I want to try playing in the Arena. I haven't done it so far because I play on a smart phone when I take a shit or am on a bus. Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I'm aware, Hearthstone isn't available for Linux? The Arena Helper software almost definitely isn't.

>>168812401
I have noticed casual being easier, but Ranked is frustrating when playing again someone who skips turns with 2 mana and doesn't use Hero power, but then drops Ragnaros, Sylvanas and 2 other legendaries while having a complete-synergy deck but is somehow rank 19.
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>power overwhelming and ice lanced get moved for being too good
>innervate stays
what did they mean by this
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>>168813925
>Devolve
>Maelstorm Portal
>Well Played
>>
>Rogue
>gets finja down turn 5
>instantly lose

What a great game.
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>>168813979
either that or they have brain damage
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>>168813925
second Roar or you never draw it in time.

Curator could work as card draw just add Azure Drakes
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>>168813175
>He thinks this is smug
This is contempt.

Traditional supply and demand does not apply to digital f2p games. These games are, in fact, a slap in the face to supply and demand. Sure, in real life you may be allowed to demo something, but how many products are you allowed to keep and continually use without paying?
F2p models live and die by enticement. Your game has to be good enough without paying in order to reel in the big money. If your game is shit without paying, people won't stick long enough to pay out. In practice, giving away a bunch of packs now can mean big returns in the long run, as it encourages people to stay a play. Meanwhile, you incur little real risk. If you give out packs, somebody plays for a bit and then stops, you've lost nothing. None of those free cards can be sold on a second hand market. This is where that idea comes into play. You disregard the existence of a second hand market, saying its unimportant to the equation. In fact, it means everything. Not having that market allows them to give away more with little or no repercussions.

Giving away free stuff actually causes demand. It sounds weird, but the very concept of f2p games is fucking weird from a capitalistic stand point.
Now fuck off shill.
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>>168814270
not him, and not even reading your post but: fuck off animefag
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why the fuck SHOULDN'T I craft Deathwing and put him in my Cucktrol Warrior
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>>168815158

You will never regret crafting DW, it's great fun.
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>>168815158
>crafting classic cards
Why waste the dust? eventually they will be rotated out and you will get them for free
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>>168815158
can't think of any reason not to anon. go for it.
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>>168815158
No reason. Deathwing is one the best meme cards.
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>>168814975
not him but it's not an anime lol
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>>168815158
because then you wont have space for noz
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>princess huhuran will never pump you full of eggs
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>>168815158
DW is propably the most underrated Legendary, next to Bloodmage.

Though Thalnos slots into way more decks, DW is good in slow decks.
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>>168815287
well if you craft now or later doesn't matter since you would still get the dust. only downside is if you open in pack since then.
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>>168815287
You are retarded
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>>168810964
>buying digital cards
ayy lmao
who else f2p masterrace here?
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>>168815158

Because you will only ever draw him when you have a hand full of value

Do it anyway
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>>168814975
Is this the most cancerous post in /hsg/ history? It's not even an anime... wow.
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>>168815402
i kind of want to craft her

even though n'zoth hunter is more dead than a very dead thing
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I hate TempoStorm so much. For the past ~7 months I've been laddering effortlessly in wild in like 2-3 days to get my rank 5. Now that they made a snapshot last month, its infested with meta deck and going above 10 is a huge fucking pain, basically like playing standard.

Fuck this, I dont want to spend a whole month for a shit reward.
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>>168815605
its clearly an anime-style even if not anime per-se
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>>168815693
This desu

First 2 weeks of old gods were mad fun, and I'm looking forward to the first couple weeks of the next rotation.
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>>168815230
>>168815298
>>168815313
>>168815383
>>168815435
>>168815580
>th-th-thaanks /hsg/!

should I also craft Sleep with the Memes?
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IS HE LUCKY?
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>its a I spend over 6h laddering furiously instead of studying
I need to stop playing, it drives me nuts to lose to rng and I can't stop playing till I fucking rank back up.
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>>168815969
Yes, make the aggro shamans cry.
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>>168816005
brasilian firebad?
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>>168815969
I hope you crafted a golden rag, sylvanas, and 2x of the others before that, right?
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>top deck player
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game of skill ;)
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MagicAmy i mean tarei is so lucky. Real feel bad for lucas who outplayed him in all games so far and might lose.
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outfuckingskilled
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GET FUCKED PIRATE SHITTER
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>>168816814
will not work on ladder
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>>168814041
Bumping for playing on Linux
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>Playing Casual Wild
>It's a pirate shaman
>turn 1 small time with tunnel trogg followup into 7/7 turn 4
>bms the whole way through
>gets injured kvaldir off maelstrom portal
>not a single wild card the whole fucking game

these people should be shot
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LUL PIRATE SHITTER IS LITERALLY CRYING
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>>168816814
How's Genzo working out?
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REKT
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RATE THIS SERIES FROM 1-10

RATE THIS SERIES FROM 1-10

RATE THIS SERIES FROM 1-10
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>2 reno topdecks
do we have a new guy?
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OUR
GUY
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>>168817046
e s p o r t s/10
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>>168817000
what did you expect? people do quests in wild casual because its easy
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>>168817046
10
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>>168817113
Reno is cancer.
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>>168816758
>>168817018
Tarei is a pirate shitter tho
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wait only the top 4 go not the top 8 i was wrong
so no young savage vs pavel?
sad!
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>>168817172
Everyone in this tournament is a pirate shitter
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>>168817156
Reno wins against pirate.
Reno is chemo.
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>>168817313
>implying one-ofs aren't the most brainless trash decks to play around
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>>168817313
>Chemo Jackson
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>>168816889
I'm just trying out decks that don't use anything from the sets being rotated out.

>>168817020
Genzo is great if you like decks where you know you're not going to be holding onto your hand much
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Tarei is a huge faggot, hope his plane crashes.
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I've decided to start playing Hearthstone again after a 5-months break, but I don't reallly feel like playing meta decks. So does anyone know any nice troll/ unserious decks like djinni priest?
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>>168754354
>Where's my auctioneer?
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>>168817398
I'll take that over any aggro any day
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>>168817524
hey there lucas. tough loss eh
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>>168817656
Fuck the Hues, but he missplayed grossly in the swiss round, game after game.
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>>168817046
11
>>
i like tarei he's one of our guys
>>
this match is already over turn 3
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I had a zero dust Midrange Shaman deck I saw online that was really fun months ago, but rockbiter weapon got nerfed

Where can I find a new good low/zero dust shaman deck?
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>>168817134
Guess I expected people to not be absolute scum and at least play ladder but I guess they're fucking cowards about their precious rank
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>>168817610
>I'd rather play around nothing because I'm fucking retarded
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>>168818147
there is no good 0 dust decks. just spend some money anon blizzard deserves it for all the hard work they put into this mobile game. $200-$300 should be enough to get you a start on a decent collection.
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>>168818147
lemme make one for you, apart from classics what cards do you have? things from below/thundetrbluff/trgoggs/golem, etc?
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>>168818147
Evovle deck is cheapish if you have prophets and
any self-reducing card (thing from below, Second-rate bruiser, volcanic drake)

But obviously it is complete RNG so glhf
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>>168818226
>scum
>coward
Nigga who the fuck wants to play this?
You log on, do your quest ASAP and log of. There's no honor in play here.

And its easier in casual than ranked to clear a quest, thats it.
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>>168818249
Why are you defending the most boring type of decks since the beginning of cards games?

hurr durr go face, trade, go face, win
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How much dust do i need to look cool on stream
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docpwn lol
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>>168818625
Because one-of decks ruin control you reddit-loving fuck
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>>168818303
Give me a second I've gotta deal with some kinda innkeeper challenge
>>
muh control
>>
Evolve Shaman: Making pantry spider a viable card since Karazhan
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>>168818764
>ruin control
but they ARE control, the fuck are you talking about?

I bet you dont like to play EDH aswell
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I can't stand lothar, I hope he loses his voice forever so I never have to hear him again
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>>168819143
You are so fucking stupid
>>
I love these no name guys making a show and dropping out later
>>
This house believes that wild format should require at least one wild card
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>>168811121

More like
>bring 3 aggro no skill decks
>get shrekt by our guy WOT playing 0 aggro decks
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>>168819143
Turn 1 mana wyrm coin mirror
Turn 2 Frost bolt your 2 drop
Turn 3 Secret (ice block)
Turn 4 Kazakus
Turn 5 Big damage


After that it's fucking "wait for iceblock to pop then reno"
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>>168818865
something similar to this should be decent for the current meta with no legos/no expensive cards
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>>168819458

>A-a-all duplicates...?
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>>168819269
you are not explaining your point

>>168819373
thats vs aggro, not when having real games vs something else

Aggro is not different:
Turn 1: Play dude, maybe swing
Turn 2: Play more dudes/weapon, swing
Turn 3: Play more dudes/weapon, swing
Turn 4: Play more dudes/weapon/throw burst, swing.
etc.
wow
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>>168819084
Should also really try out moat lurker and bomb squad in evolve shaman. These cards completely remove the downsides with a removal if evolved immediately
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>>168819534
jeez anon, just how poor are u? anyway just post pics when you'r done with the challanges
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>>168819553
Moat lurker 2 expensive, but i'll put bomb lobbers ty for the idea.
Prob way better than stormpikes
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>>168819458
Is rockbiter weapon still good? Does that mean it was just REALLY broken before?
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>>168817238
not /ourguy/ WoT
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>>168819850
2 mana for 3 damage, what do you think?
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>>168819850
its garbage now, its only good with doomhammer
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>>168819550
You are a fucking idiot
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>>168819850
Turn 10 Al'Akir double rockbiter used to be THE dream
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Lothar is SO FUCKING BAD
>lets pick a 1 mana Kazakus potion facing pirate warrior with frothing on board, because I have a blackwing corruptor in hand already

KYS lothar
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>Gadgetzan Ferryman

Why is this a thing? It's just a strictly worse Brewmaster.
>>
>watch tournament game
>ends on turn 5/6
What an amazing game blizzard
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>>168820240
no it isn't
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>>168820174
blackwing and 1 mana potion sounds alot better than reno when you are at 3 health
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>>168820240
We didn't have enough return to hand cards in rogue
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>>168820312
shut up anon meta is as balanced as it ever was-blizzard
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>>168820107
you are still not explaining anything
>>
Are devolve and twisting nether the only counters to dragon priest
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>>168820312

Rotate out azure drake, rag and sylvanas, all cards that are literally unplayable against the 3-4 best competitive decks (pirate warrior, aggro shaman, (((midrange))) jade shaman and pirate miracle rogue.

Blizzard are so fucking clueless.
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>>168820518

J A D E
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>>168820552
watch them give us garbage 5drops as azure drake replacement
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>>168820552
they are much smarter than you
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>>168820616
--Without giving /hsg/ a fucking hemorrhoid from the butthurt that ensues
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>>168820518
>dragon priest
At what kind of double digit rank are you playing?
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>>168820518
kill them before turn 6 is a good counter
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>>168820434
Breathe through your nose please
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>>168820695
this place gets butthurt about everything. Its not possible
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>>168817238
all these fags in this thread thinking pirate warrior takes no skill, LUL. sure it can push insane amount of damage in little time, but you have to use your resources wisely or you won't win consistently. and that is what matters. if you want actual cancer, play shaman or dragon priest.
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>>168820695

That cannot be done unless you're playing fucking Mill Rogue

Actually that might work
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>>168820695
>giving a shit what /hsg/ thinks
people hate everything here, never listen to them. Play what works and win.
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Best off-meta decks for your anon below rank 16
Go
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>>168819663
That ain't me

Anyway, I've got a Primal Fusion, a Stormcrack, a Flamewreathed from Old Gods, and a Stormforged Axe and Lava Burst from classic. I've got some assorted cards from Old Gods and Classic, and I could probably grind some rares from other classes for dust.
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I get angry watching this shit

>pirate warrior turn 4-5 lethal
>aggro shaman doing 56 damage to face by turn 7 while also clearing minions

How can blizzard watch this shit show and not nerf aggro.

Nerf flametongue, nerf pirates even harder, nerf weapons, nerf spells that can target face, just kill aggro already.
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>>168821081
>below rank 16
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>>168821287
Yeah dude the alternative, "whoever gets better kazakus value" is much better
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Leave the Reno Jackson to me.
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>queuing Reno Priest against Miracle Rogue
>queuing Reno Priest against Miracle Rogue that runs Beneath the Grounds
truly a dedicated memer
he really is /OurGuy/
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>>168821675
Is it value to craft a second one?
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>>168821651
>>168821651

Yea it is you fucking braindead aggroshitter
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>>168821802
Ah yes I forgot people don't want skill and deck building to decide games
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>>168822036
>mfw there are decktypes that rely on nothing but luck
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>>168822132
Yeah they are called reno decks
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>>168821802
Can't wait till that cuck Reno rotates so retards like you leave
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>>168821117
i guess like this? u should craft lightning storm probably, and if you dont have drakes and for the rest of 5 cards just put in better than basic cards preferably under 4 cost minions-huge toad, mc tech, loot hoarder, thespian, horserider, harvest golem ETC.
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who else would watch Lothar fuck Cora
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>>168822392
i'd rather watch cora fuck lothar
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>Tournament day
>One of the classes is Warlock
>Zoolock in 2017? ezpz
>Its fucking wurlock
>Wipes the entire tournament
Only in a cool world
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>>168822392
>>168822481
She's a fat fuck.
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>>168822650
we all have eyes, anon
>>
Why won't they rotate out Frothing berserker?
I feel like half of my defeats to pirate warrior are because of Frothing hitting my face for +9 damage
It was the same when patron was a thing
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>>168822912
its an interesting card and not so broken unless u have insane curve- aka every pirate warrior curve
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>>168822912
Every card they're banning is godlike on their own
Frothing isn't
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>>168822650
My thought exactly. Also I hate this stupid ass thicc meme. this aint thic, its fat. FAT.
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>>168822912
they don't want to rotate everything that isn't garbage
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>>168822261

Ive already left, keep playing this shit game that atm relies completely on draw nigger cuck.
>>
I don't understand this event.

What is the point of being the America's Winter Champion, if all of the top 4 from the Winter Playoffs go to the Bahamas anyway?
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>>168822912
None of he classic cards were rotated because they are too good but because they "limit design space" and they they are better than the trash Team shit releases so buy more pack goy since your Azure Drake is gone.
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>>168823141
Okay
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>>168823286
yes they were removed because they are too good
>>
>we're going to be rich
>win

>no Reno
>lose
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>>168823631
No, they were removed because they are used too much and "limits design space". They literally said so in the blog post.
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>>168823732
nice meta right?
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>>168823732
3rd scenario
>dead by turn 5
>lose
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>>168823732
But it's not aggro so it must be a good deck archetype
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>>168823732
In conclusion, Reno really makes you rich.
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>>168823756
used too much because they were good
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>>168823964
>who needs consistent skill based decks when you can just highroll with low skill draw intensive ones
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>>168823901
This is why I stopped playing for the last few months
I see it's only gotten worse
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>>168823756
so they're too good
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>there are poeple in this thread who unironically think that ultra greedy decks with reno and brann+kazakus are skillful and interesting
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cgsongbird is a goddess
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>>168824367
better than smalltime fierywaraxe 1 of pirate 3drops korkron into some burst dead
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>>168824367
>only control decks that can beat reno are combo decks
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>game as been out for 3 years
>minion, spells, weapons, secrets
thats it? all the abilities are so bland.

Explain to me why its so good, I might confider installing but seriously it looks so bland. Maybe I overlooked something while browsing the card db.
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>>168824367
>there are aggro shitters in this thread who think 2 card combos and a 6 mana card that does nothing but heals you are "greedy"
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is docpwn one of our shitters?
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>>168824543
much bigger problem is that there are only around 5 viable decks
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Finally AOE for Rogue.
Oh, wait.
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>>168824550
That is what makes it possible to run an ultra greedy deck, you moron.
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>>168824460
i do like her eyebrows
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>>168824658
Who plays betrayal anymore?
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>>168824367
It's a perfect deck for shitters, since wins are 100% determined by luck, and they don't get to feel bad for playing aggro

Too bad they push out actually fun decks
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>>168824771
***ever
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>>168824543
Run while you can.
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>>168824543
the presentation is the best of all card games. this is a universal fact and is the only thing HS has going for it
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>>168822339
Alright, due to my intense poverty I had to go with what I could. Not great, but I got the lightning storms.
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>>168824731
and the camera adds 10 lbs too...
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>>168824883
So its a case of "all looks but no substance"?
A bit sad.
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Leaf on suicide watch
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Just won my first game with Dragon Hunter lads

Get ready for the new meta
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>play jaraxxus against an empty board
>die
what a fun and interactive meta
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>>168825054
style over substance
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>>168825289
Fun and interactive
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I fucking hate docpwn so much he's the worst player here and he has no lost sets, he's a PERFECT example of how trash the game is right now
>>
Who ever was shitting on reno, don't tell me that THIS game wasn't 100% more interesting than any aggro match-up.
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>>168824948
ouchies, i'd still replace mogushan with anything else, even river croc is better. And i think u can replace spawn of nzoth and flesh eating with dont mess with huskar if you dont have better 3drops, they are just a little too reliant on you having a board early with no clear way of you achieving it. Didnt u say u have stormforged axe?
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>>168825289
>waaah damage from hand
fucking pathetic reno cucks
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>>168825346
word its great really
hs exposed
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>>168825473
>wake up
>amnesiasc lost to FROZEN

L M A O
M
A
O
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Is the banlist gonna be released on tourney day or tomorrow/
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How analy destroyed will my rank be after this dick?
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thank god for fucking Reno.

get FUCKED pirate fags.
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>>168825873
>rng is more important than skill
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>>168825676
>Cardbans
>After reflecting on a few things, I've decided that the cardban deadline is February 21st at 2pm EST for the Yuro boys.
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How do I get good at arena. I just went 4-3 with this deck. I figured this deck would go higher.
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>>168826017
>muh card draw is rng!
yes and? same for aggro
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>>168825417
I did, I dunno where it went. Must've removed it from the deck on accident.

The problem is I suck, so I don't quite know what's good. I have an ironbeak owl, two argent squires, two twisted worgens, a bluefin tidehunter, a disciple of cthun, and a raging worgen as <4 drops which SEEM to have good effects, but I have no fucking clue what's actually good.
>>
How does my otk velen priest recover after thaurissan retires?
>>
>>168826486
it won't
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>>168826486
How does any non-agro deck recovers after Rich Man rotates out?
>>
>>168826568
I am a f2player its my only good deck :(
>>
>>168827038
better cough up 400+ bucks if you wanna play in the next expansion goy ;^)
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>>168826167
Exactly, Reno is just another flavor of this meta's aggro

High variance, skilless trash
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>>168826296
def put argent squires in. Other cards are bad in current meta because there is so much ways to clear 2/1 creature or 3health
>>
docpwn is a digusting """"""player""""""
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>>168827227
>High variance, skilless trash
Hearthstone in a nutshell.
>>
>ratting a druid
>>
>>168827612
At least he got that discount on the Bruiser
>>
Since when does Renolock run Flame Imp?
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Rag proving why he's being put in wild
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>>168827940
they run the discover 1 cost dude
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>>168827940
retard
>>
docpwn so happy about having the chance to win a tournament, no doubt he gets that fat cash stack but everyone thinks hes a fucking joke since before he even got this far
bittersweet times for him
>>
>>168828012
>>168828019
I've seen it played on turn 1 multiple times so I assumed it was Zoo, but misread it.
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>>168828157
He's the worst player here
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>>168827612
u have a GOLDEN DEATHWING damnnnn son that shit is super rare.
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>>168828281
9-0
already secured 5k
so crazy
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>start playing wild
>deck cost less than a legendary
>costs less than any meme deck ideas I had
>enemies play Belchers, Doc7 and Loatheb
>kick their ass
>game is fun again
>my face when
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r8 this dick!
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>>168828673
netdeck/10
>>
'Shay-man'
>>
>>168828578
just wait till you get to rank ~7.
its all standard shit from there on, thanks to reynoodle
>>
can't find the prize distribution for hct winter championships but the total is like 250k
so just qualifying you get flight and accomodation
some money for making it that far in the qualifier
and then most likely quite a bit even if you bomb out of the tournament in the bahamas
>>
>>168828281
He's 9-0 he's at least better than anyone else which is sad but everyone doesn't have to hate on him. Hate on NA more.
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>>168828817
I'm a shitter so I doubt I'll get that far, but I'm looking forward to it. Probably a good idea getting used to wild just in case the next set is shit.
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>the year that saved hearthstone
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>>168828578
just wait until more people play it

just like hearthstone after closed beta it will get worse

once all the f2p casual netdeckers lose half their cards and play wild for the first time they will all craft the most broken decks, and wild will be as bad as regular ladder

all because blizzard and brode dont want to balance a damn thing
>>
>>168828772
I was the first one to put Deathwing AND Sylvanas in the same list, so it isn't a netdeck.

sorry pal.
>>
>>168828673

Dirty rat is complete shit anon, drop it.
>>
>>168828953
if somebody won 9 coinflips in a row would you say he is a superior coin-flipper?
>>
>>168815869
>>168814975
>All these casual fags

I know this is a popular phone game, but come the fuck on.
Its fire emblem (ike) before it got super anime.
Besudes that, anime is part of 4chan cultire. YOU are the outsiders, and you niggers need to fuck off ot of here if you can't handle somebody posting a fucking anime picture. Quite seriously you should go to reddit if you wish to not be offended.
>>
>>168829232

Yes
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>>168829289
never gamble
>>
>>168829289
but thats retarded anon
>>
>>168829453
>>168829460
kek u jus mad cause ur coin game weak
>>
>>168829251
I've been here since 2007. I'm not going away, and I'm not going to start liking anime just because. There's all kind of boards and threads NOT about anime anon and you know it.

also I never played fire emblem but heard its alright, would you agree?
>>
May that faggot Tarei crash and burn.
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Who's the Mage now?
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we like tarei here
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>>168829990
SKILL BASED COMPETITIVE GAME
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>>168829990
>>168830113
Competitive Esports LUL
>>
When should the next set come out?
>>
we also like drJ now
>>
Can't the casters do basic math? Bring back Kebler.
>>
New thread when?
>>
Honestly I think flamewaker can't get put in wild soon enough
It's honestly one of the most broken cards in the game
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>>168830424
Somewhere around late March or early to mid April.
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>>168829554
You don't have to like it, but you don't have to be another "Fuck anime I'm so much better than you for not liking it XDDDD".
You can't even claim its off topic, its just reaction images.

I'm a big fire emblem fan, its an amazing strategy series that everyone should try. Not awakening though, that was pretty bad. The gba games were among the best, path of radiance was good too, but I didn't like the sequel (radiant dawn). Fe6 is my favorite, wasn't even released outside of japan though, so many haven't played it.
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>>168830486
he needs his hourly coke injection
>>
>>168830540
at least it enables a archetype that is more skill based and fun than almost any deck out there
>>
i wanna punch targei in his stupid faggot chink head
>>
>>168830495
I'm gonna do it, gimme a sec
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>>168830726
which deck is this
>>
>>168830726
Yes flamewaker and a bunch of cheap spells killing an entire board sure is skillful
>>
>>168830889
shut the fuck up retard
>>
dead game
>>
Ah guys if its alright I'll make a new thread. I need to add some clarifying information to the OP image about the EU/NA dates. Give me 15 minutes.
>>
>>168830930
>>168830984
tempo makes more decisions as to when to use their cheap spells for maximum value vs not getting overrun. Its far more skill based than any deck in this tournament
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>>168831150
random pings is not skillful
>>
we need new bread
>>
just wait for the one guy to make it, it's gonna be fine
>>
>>168830909
Oh if you're making the new one then please add that THIS weekend (24-26) is the EU tourney, and the weekend after (3-5) is the NA tourney.

When the bans are in (probably tomorrow) you should have Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to submit your classes.
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new
>>168831546
>>168831546
>>168831546
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>>168831501
>>168831501
>>168831501

move
>>
you fucking retards
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>>168831801
>>168831578
Good job :)
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>>168831578
>>168831801
lol
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