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/ygo/ General #2452

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY

Last thread: >>168629858

New summoning mechanic: Link Summon
Explanation: https://ygorganization.com/memberdrawing6/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/baj95caex5si0n3/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/jpok5ejx0fvlu5k/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy-nopics.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/23339/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf

>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html

>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/

>Official /ygo/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Tyranno's Rage (February 25th)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)

●TCG: Raging Tempest (February 10th)
●TCG: Fusion Enforcers (February 24th)
●TCG: Duelist Saga (March 31st)
●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 13th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP
● Read carefully the cards
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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>>168657274
those twatter messages still aint translated?
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>>168657360
we don't actually have weebs, they all just google translate things so they're useless for images
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Senet Switch gets reprinted in the starter deck but with errata
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Round 2

What are some monsters you want/expect Link retrains of?
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JAJAJAJAJA
http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30657972
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>>168656921
In a few months, the game will be nothing but Link spam. Link monsters are what allow mass Extra Deck summoning in the first place, so they synergize perfectly with each other, allowing you to spam as many as you want on one turn just like people used to do with Synchro and Xyz. Nothing is going to change besides every other non-Link and non-Main-Deck-focused archetype being murdered.
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>>168657360
stores planning on not carrying the game
konami forcing use of new mat and only it
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>>168657615
You're bullshitting me about the mat thing. Really? I paid good money for my mats. Also, I love how they are probably still going to release mats at regionals and other tournaments that are themed around the ARC-V era that are probably not going to be VRAINS legal mats.
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>>168657529
I want a Red-eyes Link dragon.
Give Red-eyes something to help them out since they're one among the worst of the nostalgia support.
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>>168657572
yep, not to mention that they can't even be used for Xyz nor Synchro, so there is literally no reason to waste your valuable monsters zones on monster that don't give your more links
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>>168657274
>ED spam done for good
>Game evolve into chess tier
>somehow this is bad
i support this , its fantastic what konami has done
also don't worry those stores gonna sell ygo again soon or later
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>>168657529
Dark Magician Girl
Relinkuished
Ha Des
Helpoemer
Zombie Master
Summoned Skull
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>>168657956
how about we don't try to force retrains of big name shit that doesn't belong there?

gaia notwithstanding since him being everything is kind of a meme at this point
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>>168657274
Starter Deck 2017 comes out March 25th, 2017 in OCG
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nips are saying what ghostrick succubus now is relevant e.e
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>>168658098
Pffft, it's just gonna devolve into link spam, you just replaced one form of degeneracy for another.
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Friendly reminder that Jewnami planned Twilightsworns 7 years ago.
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In this scenario. Would you still be able to summon an R4, or would you have to have a free EMZ to do so?

I'd assume that you would be able to for the exact same reason that you can make an R4 even with 5 level 4 monsters on your field.
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>>168658189
>I want nothing but robutts, lolis, space warriors and space ships in my yugioh, fuck the occult roots

No.
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>>168658246
well ghostricks need something considering you can't set links anymore
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>>168658272
Twilightsworn are pretty neat. Completely overshadowed by massive rule changes and Link summoning though.
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>>168658246
sauce?
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>>168658409
>overshadowed
Heh.
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>>168657274
>>168629904
what the fug
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Choose one thread, fuckers.
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>>168658098
Looking forward to you people bitch about getting raped hard by star wars and true we wuz
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>>168658307
almost certainly yes, as long as one of the X-Head Cannons is used.

>>168658352
i'm saying i'd rather we not get cyberdark magician and instead got some new, fresh shit. shit like milus radiant 2 indicate that it isn't just going to be cyberspace themed stuff, anyway.
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>>168658098
>I don't want people to be able to play the game
>YAAAAAAAAAAAY
i fucking hate it when you people are happy
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>>168658409
I'd be hyped for Twilight decks being a thing again
But it's gonna be like LODT all over again
and new JD is gonna cost like fucking £60
So I'm out
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Take your bets on how high it will go
>793.55% shift in 24 hours
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>>168658448
idk why i follow him, maybe is a nicotuber?
https://mobile.twitter.com/gorgeous_blue_
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>>168658668
Don't forget to stock up on your Minerva!
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>>168658649
>He got addicted to masturbation.
Get your shit pushed in scrub.
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>>168658098
I want to see your face next year when the metagame develops into Link spam or lose.
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>Can no longer stop LS with macro or fissure
Fuck
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>>168658098
>stop Zoodiac spam at the expense of neutering virtually every deck worth a shit
>decks are literally forced to use Link Monsters in order to bring out more than 1 Extra Deck monster even if they clash with the deck's theme or nature
>given Konami's retarded track record, will inevitably get busted Link Monsters to push shitter's shit in like yourself anyway
>somehow this is good

Are you delusional, or just retarded?
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Besides Dark Magician and Ojama, what other decks/archetypes now actually benefit from Links?
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>>168659281
Zoods
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>>168659281
LLs!
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>>168659281
Cloudians.
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>>168659281
Dustons.
>Cannot be used as a Fusion, Synchro, or Xyz Material for a Summon.
>But can still be used as Link fodder
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>>168659236
>stop Zoodiac spam
Not even.
https://twitter.com/halky_nekroz/status/832569970957496321
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>>168659498
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>>168659281
True Kings, Infernoids, Kozmos and Mermails.
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>>168659654
I'm aware of Konami's failed attempt to stop Rat. I was merely pointing out the likely reason for this bullshit we're experiencing.
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I wonder when we will get main deck monsters that can only survive in currently linked zones.

It's an inevitability isn't it?
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>>168659654
BRAVO KONAMI
R
A
V
O
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>>168659638
>Finally get a card to completely lock-down your opponent's field
>New summoning method lets your opponent link summon them all away
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Stop posting in this thread, the other one was made five hours earlier and has more people.
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So it's basically the card game from FF9 now?
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>>168659861
make me
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>>168659861
>>168659498
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>>168659861
You can't tell me what to do
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>>168659861
You can't tell me what to do nerd
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>>168659861
The threads are LINKED, how will you overcome this scenario?
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>>168659654
Oh right. Link monsters don't give a fuck about how Xyz monsters don't have levels.
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>>168659638
But what stops your opponent from using the Dustons you summon on their side of the field as Link fodder?
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>>168660104
You do. With the fearsome field you summon using the swarm of Dustons you summoned.
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>>168659654
>nerf Extra Deck spam
>the deck that spams the hardest is still unaffected by it all
>in fact, the new rules only makes it that much easier for Zoos to win

Like a broken record, Konami is truly the most incompetent company I've ever seen in my life. Bar none.
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>>168659861
The other thread doesn't link to the last thread and doesn't have a thread number, fuck it.
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>>168660104
ram it into your opponent during your battle phase
MP2 Link everything
Owner's Seal
Link everything again
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>>168660104
Use the power of Link memes
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>>168659654
Link had 1 fucking job, man.
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>>168659882
yes, we started with eidolons now we tetra
who knows whats next? time tests for cards
maniping the final boss ai, CHARGE!!! spam
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>>168660380
this no DEF shit bugs me as much as the new rules
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>>168660226
>>168660320
>>168660380
So there is no real solution and you guys just wait for your opponent to Link with your dustons and actually use their BP to run you over?
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>>168660496
Speaking of bugs guess who got even worse because Link monsters can't be changed to defense?
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>>168660635
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>168659654
You can't see it but I'm sitting here and laughing my ass off right now.
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>>168660635
I fucking love it.
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>>168659654
BUY SPHERE MODES
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>>168660635
Why does konami hate Insects so much
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why not do dis instead?
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if negate the effect of a link monster the link zones are negated too?
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>>168661164
Roulette Spider is already a card
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>>168661164
That's heresy anon
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>>168661293
It's not an effect, it's a game mechanic, you can't negate it.
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>>168657529
Gagagigo

he BTFO's freed because he won't get affected by dimensional barrier
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>>168659654

ANYONE GOT THAT VIDEO OF THE SPANISH DUDE LAUGHING?
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL

>Laughing man: "So we received complaints from players about the special summoning spam"
>Interviewer: "Yeah to be fair it was getting too much"
>LM: "So we completely gutted the extra deck"
>he laughs
>"So we came up with this new mechanic. We called it link. So we made the cards have no defense! And their positions can't switch! And you can't special summon without it!"
>laughter
>"Not only that, but we made field positions matter. Those garbage cards from 10 years ago are actually good now!"
>wheezing laughter
>"IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL TO STOP ZOODIACS! WE NERFED IT FOR NO REASON!"
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So are Link monsters destroyed if they're switched to defense position? Or are the just unaffected just as Xyz monsters are unaffected by level effects?
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>>168659281
C L O U D I A N S
unexpected dai into smoke ball, normal turb, summon two more balls

link ball 1 into EMZ for the spider or link 3 balls into talker

if you sack brilliant fusion, you can link turbulence and 1 ball instead into something, then salvage back turbulence + ball and normal summon turbulence with 4 counters, and then assuming more decent links get released you can link 5 or 6

>>168660104
starduston senpai

can't link if you've got the big guy up

truly this is the dawn of the weenies
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>>168661535
Did you READ the rules
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>>168660496
They can't change their positions because it would completely change the direction of their link arrows.
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>>168661535
They can't be switched to Defense Position at all. They will just be unaffected by effects that would change them to Defense Position.
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>>168661535
They're simply unaffected by anything that changes positions.
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>>168661535
Also, they have no levels, if you didn't notice.

However, this does not mean their level is zero. They just have no levels. That's all.
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>>168661919
>>168661689
>>168661668
>>168661780
What the fuck

why
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>>168659654
WEBM THAT SHIT
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>>168661974
>why
Because >>168661668
>it would completely change the direction of their link arrows.
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>decks start running the best, generic link enabler
>Winter Cherries
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>>168661974
That's how it was with XYZ. For the why? Fuck you, that's why.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DEbXornxGg
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>>168662132
>Introduce a link monster that can be summoned with any 2 Earth monsters in the first Vrain set
Bravo Konami
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>>168662132
FUCKING DIE KONAMI AND YOUR RAT OF TERMINAL CANCER
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>>168662094
season lolis kill link cards pretty effectively
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>>168659654
>>168661992
>WEBM THAT SHIT
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>>168662132
This is the best part of this shitshow, the new ruling does fuck all to Zodiac
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>>168662632
>>168662132
>>168659654
WHY THE FUCK KONAMI DOESN'T BAN THE RAT
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>>168662632
I haven't touched the game while Zoodiac has been the thing. Has this mechanic really not affected them at all? Would this be considered an efficient use of their cards now? Does it make their combo easier to respond to?
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>>168659654
>>168662132
I WANT TO FUCKING DIE
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>>168662132
>uploader is a SaGabro
Even if he is a degenerate ratfag, he can't be all bad.
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>>168662917
>Has this mechanic really not affected them at all?
No. It still affects them quite a bit. It's just that they could do pretty much whatever they wanted before. Now it just looks like regular ED spam.
And since everyone else are also fucked. This still works greatly in the favour of Zoodiacs.

Just have a look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSxTv-FVTI
That kind of crap is no longer possible. But not being able to do that kind of crap isn't that big of a deal for them since it was never needed to begin with.
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>>168662872
Because they're still making money off of it
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>>168662132
>the second combo doesn't even need Link monsters
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Which of your decks are dead under the new rules?
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>>168662132
>kanashii
>kanashii
>kanashii
Kanashii indeed.
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>>168663161
>Even if he is a degenerate ratfag
>[Sad news]
he is suffering anon , everyone does
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so what boss monster is the easiest to bring it out? and the strongest
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>>168661490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyEThSM4JnI
This dude?
I was pretty salty but this not stopping rat is beyond hilarious
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>>168663372
Yeah, El Risitas
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>Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 "Zoodiac" monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it, but for the rest of this turn, it has its effects negated, also it cannot be used as Xyz Material for an Xyz Summon.
Free Link fodder for days.
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>>168663349
Crystal Wang
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>>168658468
fuckin sauce? now i want to take a good fuckin fap bro
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So is D-barrier going to get errata'd or did konami just cuck a bunch of people?
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INVEST IN LEVEL EATER HOLY SHIT THIS CARD IS OP IN NEW META.
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i don't know why people is so butthurt about the link monsters, u guys didn't learn when synchro were released ? when xyz were released? even when pendulums were released? u guys must be retards or something for being mad
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>>168663614
>D Barrier not blocking links is what is cucking a bunch of people
m8
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>>168663641
Lever Eater was banned in Japan's list. And it will no doubt be banned in the TCG too.
Buying it sounds like a major mistake.
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>>168663760
Those metas didn't involve having to reboot the fucking game with one Extra Deck Zone while introducing a new summoning mechanic.

It's heaven to me :)
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>>168663760
>even when pendulums were released?
while I get your point. The pendulum era actually did more good for previous summoning methods than not.
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>>168657274
Zayelion:
>I managed to implement the new summoning mechanic.
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>>168663760
There's a difference between having the option to not use a new mechanic and literally being forced to use it.
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>>168663760
When those things happened I didn't complain, because they were just adding new stuff to the game, not cucking us out of the stuff we currently play and like.
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>>168663939
i know, i left yu gi since xyz shit, i find this really refreshing it's like konami realized the meta was really fucked up, nowi wanna play again and grab my six samurai deck with my friends n stuff
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>>168664098
you're not forced to use it, though.

if you choose not to use Link Monsters, all that's happened is "Monsters special summoned from the Extra Deck may only be summoned to the new designated zone".
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>>168664098
You don't have to use link. You will be gimped, but they aren't forcing you to do anything.
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>>168664158
>my six samurai deck

Do I tell him?
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>>168664048
I'm sure Percy, EerieCode and friends will have lots of fun updating for Link summoning.
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>>168663242
Metalfoes.
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>>168664195
WHICH KILLS SO MANY FUCKING DECKS
UNLESS THEY USE THE NEW MECHANIC
THERE'S NO WAY THIS ISN'T BAIT
YES I AM MAD
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>>168664048
What the fuck is Amazing Pendulum doing there?
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>>168664048
Does Salvation have the new ED rules too?
It's not completed yet is it?
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>>168664235
shien set 3 isn't really affected by the new mechanic is it?
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>>168664334
No, but Shi En + Naturia Beast, Shi En + Barkion, Barkion + Beast or Shi En + Shi En is completely impossible without the new mechanic.
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>>168664048
What's that zone between grave and deck?
Or is it nothing as this is beta stuff, or is it something and I wasn't paying enough attention
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>>168664195
>>168664221
You're right. I must've imagined the part where I can't summon additional Extra Deck monsters and my entire strategy gets gimped and rendered useless unless I buy Konami's new cards that clash with the theme of my deck by minusing even harder just to make basic plays.
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>>168664276
so what
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>>168664334
Naked Shi-en is asking to get fucked hard. Gateway is still banned
Rota is at one
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>>168664221
I'm not forcing you to give me your money, you're can just refuse and be shot instead.
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>>168664656
imagine being this melodramatic
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>>168662132
WHO /ZOODIAC/ HERE
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>>168664656
Not the same thing. This is a card game you don't need it to live.
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>>168664475
>>168664653
shucks

hope for gateway to get unbanned like the ocg i guess
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>>168664761
Playing with 1 ED monsters is very much like trying to compete in regular sports while being crippled.
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>>168664571
>Making old decks literally unplayable without new cards is okay
Pic very much related
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>>168665342
Eh they will figure something out for them. The thing to actually be worried about is how long it will take them.
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What are some old useless decks and archetypes that now have a chance?
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>>168665628
None. This is still Zoodiac meta.
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>>168665628
>>168661628
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>>168665628
Herald of Perfection turn 1 Kristya

The only one that does this the most efficiently is the Happy variant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctLQAc9iZFU

>duels like this will no longer be possible

F
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>>168665930
d/d/d more like f/f/f
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>>168665930
Good riddance.
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>>168665930
>using pendulums now means that there will be less room for contracts
Fucked on several fronts.
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>>168662872
Because the game's creator doesn't like it when cards get banned
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Watch them make a trillion cards for every archetype out there that will end up making the extra deck thing not matter as much. They will do it and likely considering what they can do to advertise in the new anime.
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When will we get a DDD Link monster?
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>>168664235
tell me what?, i have all the basic six samurai deck with no extra deck shit, just the clasic one
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>>168666463
Even if they did this. The extra deck limit of 15 cards will really hit certain decks super hard.
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>>168666478
A one material link that points left and right (and maybe down for contract interactions?) that you can summon off of like Kepler / Copernicus / Lamia is basically what they need ain't it?
They don't need even more stuff in their extra deck though, it's crampt now, and we already have the executive kings coming
>>168666556
Then for all the people that you're gonna be playing that vs and not get beaten 100% of the time you could basically play with whatever rules you want
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>>168666765
>A one material link that points left and right
Never ever. This would defeat most of the purpose of the link mechanism.
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Is it his time?
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>>168666765
Link value is literally equal to the amount of the active Link markers, so you can't have a Link 1 monster with 2 active Link markers.
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>>168666607
I don't think extra deck limit should go up. Yeah its a struggle, but making people pick and choose what they really want in their extra deck is good.
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>>168667035
Oh whoops my bad.
I do hope they save D/D/D somehow, might be interesting
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whos head should i photoshop onto this?
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>>168666969
Vanilla Summoned Skull? Hell no.
Archfiend Commander could be semi-viable if TGU go back to 3 now.
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>>168667427
Kuraz.
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>>168667427
Dark Magician or Yugi
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>>168667062
>need link monsters to summon extra deck monsters
>can't have extra deck monsters because link monsters take up the space
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>D/D/D Laplace is the volume 3 promo
How does this bode for the manga cards being in Collector's Pack 2017?
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>>168667427
>"have to" involves having the option to do either
>you never had the option because you never had an extra deck in the first place

nice try
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>>168668174
LAPLACE IS GETTING PRINTED?
OH FUCK YES THE ANGER IS ALL GONE
MAXWELL WHEN
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>>168668174
0% chance
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So is DM better than Blue-Eyes under the new rules?
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ITT: POST PET DECKS THAT MADE IT THROUGH THE LINK MASSACRE

>Herald Deck
>big chance of Herald of Ult and Kristya lock first turn
>unaffected by Link mechanic

HERALD MASTER RACE
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>>168668412
>Maxwell when
That's what I was asking anon.

Also D/D Brownie when?
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>>168668605
Espirits should be alright?
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>>168668605
triamid/koaki meiru rock stun

since most of the time, the only extra deck monster you'll bring out is gorgonic guardian
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I just wanted to play around with Fluffal pendulums. And now I'll never get a chance to do it in a pre-Links world.
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>>168668605
zielgigas otk is back in business
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>find out Cosmic Blazar Dragon was printed
>will never be able to use it
Fuck Links, and fuck the nostalgiafag retards whiteknighting them because they kill Synchro and Xyz. Links will become just as masturbatory as Synchros were if not worse.
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>>168669779
>We are the dark 5D's timeline

REMINDER THAT Z-ONE WON AND BONDS LOST
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>>168669779
>Syncucks
>>
honestly speaking, grief and disbelief aside, was this a smart move on konami's part?

given how this changes nothing for zoodiacs or true draco, what's the point in literally fucking over every other rogue shit dekc out there?

there hasn't ever been a rule change as big as this one and it literally makes a bunch of decks and card unplayable, without requiring the new cards. at least for xyz you felt like your deck was improved with the new additions, but this is a tax on old cards to even see play again, to even do things they could do already.

the whole thing reads very, very counterproductively.
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>>168671008
When not even the japs like it, then you know it's bad.
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>>168671008
and finally, is it even possible for a backlash to reach konami?

they must surely feel impervious to all kinds of backlast at this point, given how much the playerbase will keep on sucking their balls and buying product after product, banlist after banlist.
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>>168671008
it gets rid of the evil black and white cards even though it'll be just as good so it's okay!!!!

>>168671159
did they like pendulum? what have players said about it? i know stores don't like it? i really want >>168671171 to happen
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>>168670417
That's okay, Z-ONE had a baller theme song.
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>>168671008
Zoodiacs are not great under Link meta, friend. The meta is Dark Magician vs. True Dracos and probably Spiral Dragon.

I don't know how you think zoo isn't dead on arrival.
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>>168671606
Here:
>>168659654
>>168662132
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>>168672118
All under the assumption Rat won't get hit in next month's banlist which probably will happen. Otherwise they wouldn't have made Missus Radiant.
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>>168657529
Jinzo, possibly retrained into a Cybers type. Cause I'm still disappointed Jinzo didn't get the full nostalgia treatment.
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>>168672209
That's a completely different situation that has nothing to do with Links.
The point is: even with Links, Rat is still as strong as ever, if not stronger, since now everything else is significantly crippled.
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Everyone making such fuzz about the card placement but I can already tell that it won't matter much beyond just having your monsters lined up with the arrows
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>>168671008
I wouldn't like to judge it so early.
That said. Change is integral and utterly required for the longevity of a card game. And this most certainly changes up the game.

Time will tell whether or not it was for the better or not.
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>>168672694
Nobody cares about the card placement. The problem is having to spend resources setting up useless monsters that won't even survive a turn to allow you to actually make use of your ED.
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it's almost like they are mocking us

https://ygorganization.com/imhotblooded/
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>>168657529
>want
LLs or DDs
>expect
Kuriboh
with eyes of Blue
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>>168671395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDEuYou_Z6Y
>No villain themed SP so we can finally get the rest of thee Timelords.
Fuck. I need more maindeck centric decks now that with all this Link crap coming.
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>>168672694
You may or not want to avoid your opponent's monsters linking with your cards/zones too.
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>>168658468
GUYS I NEED FUCKIN SAUCE
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>>168672930
has anyone tried metaion as an anti-zood tech? slam into emeral to dodge viper, bounce all their stuff

i just want an excuse to use metaion desu
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>>168657572
Theres really nothing thats "non-link" but can play other extra deck monsters. The way theyre summoned is the same. Almost anything that could make synchro or xyz could also make a link.
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>>168672930
Ain Soph Aur and Afterglow never
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>even less space in the extra deck now

FUCK LINKS
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>>168673380
I think he means pure Link decks.
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>>168673296
Geh is pretty decent anti Zoo tech.
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He died for nothing
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Anyone wanna help with my pet deck?

Thinking about:

- Honest
- Orange Light
- One Day of Peace
- Senju?
- Gellenduo?

+ 3x Ritual Sanctuary?
+2 ?????

Have not focused on the meta so much but Ritual Sanctuary seems great.

Want to focus solely on the Happy version because too broke for Cybersluts.

Only showed two Arc Lights for Extra because that's all I use from the Extra, but suggestions for Extra would be nice just in case if I wanted to use Orange Light for a Synchro.
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>>168665930
https://youtu.be/LhHUZUMx02M?t=866

>duels like this will not longer be possible
Please come and save us Yanfly ;_;
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>>168673936
KoA still won't unban Stratos.
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>>168674104
Add Links.
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>>168671008
Itll hurt aome random rogue decks but the reality is it probably wont affect most of those since most dexks that are rrallt good at spamming stuff was already good, and alao the extra span was considered a bad thing but a lot of people anyway. You have to play the new cards yeah, sure, as always. Konami probably feels they fucked up even considering pendulums were mostly useless outside of dedicated decks. Is it super jewish? Yeah sure but thats card games, they have to come up with ways to make us buy new cards so whatever. But the reason I dont feel this affects most decks outside of dedicated extra spam decks is because natural flow of the game will make it so you can keep summoning guys if your deck isnt focused on getting out multiples at once. Satellarknights for example, theyll play altair and such into Trihiver or whatever. But because of how yugioh works, 90% of the time it will die, allowing you to repeat your play sequence and summon another Xyz. Saying nothing that if your summon gets fucked, youcan still try again. If they dont kill your Xyz, do you really need to make another? The main thing it does is stop you from further pressing your advantage in that situation, which I supppse could be interpreted as a bad thing. But mainly Id say its good because it means it isnt allowing you to make the situation hopeless.
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All these people complaining about Links and I'm just sitting here like
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>>168674307
They should have just given pendulum cards stronger pendulum effects but weaker monster effects and that would have made them more desirable for more decks.
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>>168674124
Yanfly was too pure for this world ;_;
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>>168673936
NEVER EVER
;___;
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What kind of support does Blue-Eyes need in COTD to wreck the new format?
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>>168675002
Maiden with Links of Blue. Hard OPT can summon BEWD to a linked zone.
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>there are enough people talking about links that it can keep 2 threads active
kek
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>>168675127
Neck yourself, Mariomon.
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>mfw madolches will eventually get links
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>>168675295
No they won't.
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Pendulum Link monsters ever?
We've already got Xyz, Synchro, and Fusion Pendulum monsters
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>>168675328
Yes they will
also, delet this
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>>168667427
Masterpiece
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>>168675328
Do not abuse waifus.
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>>168675462
Just like they got pendulums, right?
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>>168675328
>>168675616
>2 (TWO) shit waifus
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>>168675616
You don't need pends to be functional in Arc-V rules.
You kinda really need links to be functional in VRAINS meta.
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Turn me into a Link monster already Konami, continue the tradition.
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>>168675890
Already happened, dumbass.
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>>168675890
Already done.
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>>168675890
Ha! Dumbass! Your ass is so dumb!
>>168675928
>>168675972
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I think everyone is forgetting the card that is the most hurt by Links.
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>>168675928
>>168676060

please don't bully
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>>168675972
So those left and right arrows do what exactly? I get the top and bottom three but does that open two more slots for extra deck summoning or just one on either side of Gaia?
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>>168676078
Hey, you can get that from a pack in Duel Links.
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>>168676109
Basically, you can properly SS ED monsters in any space that an arrow points to
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>>168676198
So the trade off is that you get a 2600 ATK beater but you risk having your opponent get a ED out on either side as well. Not sure if that's worth the risk especially after sacrificing three monsters.
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>>168676365
If you have Gaiasaber in your extra zone, it's linking to your opponent's extra zone which is fair game for any ED monsters, so you don't need to worry about that just yet. Decode Talker on the other hand, you do need to be careful with.
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Imagine a little boy as the metagame of yugioh, probably a 9 or 10 years old shota to be more specific, metting a little rat girl of his age, they hold hands and live a happy life until the rat tells the little to come to her house, where the boy is welcomed by a redhead dyke with D cups named Drancia and gives him a great hug and the boy's head is literally sunk on her cleavage and then the rat presents his entire family to the boy, the boy is now confused but he is still smiling because they're a happy family, right?

Well now that the boy and the rat go to her room, they play with some toys, like a magician with a rod which is a part of a series of monsters, some statues of big monsters and a lot more, the rat told the boy to sleep with her, the boy like a naive innocent angelical gentleman agrees. What a mistake, for the rat had planned a sleepover with some of his "friends" but before that, the rat starts having fun with the boy, she gets naked and screams "overlay with me" and then the boy wakes up panicked, the rat girl is now riding his penis, and there is no way to break out, for they have already made the overlay network, and this is so illegal, that out of the window, a celestial body appears, its Master Peace, the true dracoslaying king, and the boy, said "oh thank god you came to save me", and then master piece just leaves his sword and shield on the corner, unzips his pants and proceed to pound the boy while kissing the rat in the lips, and the rat is also V-bagging the boy, he cannot scream now but his few screams woke up the zoodiac family, is the boy saved?

Nope, they all ganged up in him and build the overlay network on him a lot that the boy just blacked out after all the pounding and was left with the rat to sleep. And the rat said a few last words to the boy, she whispered "lyca and bull link summon" in his ears.
And then she slept with him naked, under the bedsheets and on the morning, they bathed together before the boy left. The end
>>
lol games dead. Why are you fags still here?
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>>168662132
>KANASHII
>ZETSUBOU
>ZOODIAC: INFINITE POSSIBILITIES

This guy is great.
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>>168676673
>>
Let's make our own card game!
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>>168676953
>Game
>So alive that there are 2 /dng/s on /vg/ active right now
>Dead
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mfw konami is gonna backpedal with the links shit and make legacy format
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>>168677015
Isn't that how Cardfight Vanguard started?
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>>168677080
woah, it's almost as if everyone is surprised that Konami just killed the game
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>>168677117
>No one plays Link format
>Konami has to pretend it never happened
>They apologize by making more OP XYZ archetypes
>Everyone hates the game even more
>They try to bring back a more balanced link system
>The new link system makes way for the return of the menace that is synchro
YOU'RE ALL TO BLAME FOR WHAT I DO
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>>168664757
I am but i replace the rat with
>Mill chick perfume ss chick chick mills butterfly butterfly ss fox or cat r4nk bull eff add tiger r4nk wildbow r4nk bull eff add tiger tiger eff summon chick and fox, chick mills cat ns white rabbit ss blue cat tribute fox rabbit and chick ss link monster, overlay drancia, pop tiger, tiger eff ss chick eff mill cat dancer perfume on grave add wolf summon panther set grisaille prison pass"
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Thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnilUPXmipM
>>
I feel dead inside.
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>>168660051
kek
>>
Who here hyped for Ground Collapse Bujin meta?
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>try to get off to Ixtab
>mind keeps reminding that she's a mexican slut with a dirty vagina
>hard on deflates like a lead balloon

>get off to Leo Dancer instead
>burst in a minute just thinking of getting crushed by those massive thighs

Mexicans. Not even once.
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>bought a lunalight and rock stun (solidarity build) today for no good reason.
>don't even play
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Tell me about the zoodiacs, will they be dead with the new mechanics? What are the predictions? Will things that have trouble keeping up be able to keep up at all? What are your thoughts anons.
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>>168678185
>will they be dead
It does nothing to them.
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>>168677927
Post more
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>>168678234
more
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>>168678207
It does, it's just that it affects other decks worse so Zoos still come out on top
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>>168678185
We just had OCG overlord show ways to do zoodiac stuff EVEN WITHOUT LINK SUMMONING.

Zoodiacs will ONLY die if they ban the rat, and nothing else, but then like Dante, we're going to see that rat on other archtypes.

Screencap this, every yugioh girl will be Marmorat and every yugioh man will be Dante
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>>168672694
What if they make cards that can screw your opponent when linked up with them? They can do some pretty interesting stuff with this.
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>>168678185
Lyca gives you essentially free Link materials.
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So besides chain material and future fusion, what other cards can send materials from the deck for a fusion summon?
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>"He wasn't about to die was he newbie. He could have waited another month for a banlist."
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>>168678389
>What if they make cards that can screw your opponent when linked up with them?
Almost certainly.
>>
Who's ready for battery men to come back into prominence
>>
>Synchro Linker
>ATK 1500/LINK 4/Zones 4613
>Psychics/Effect
>2 or more Effect monsters
>If you Special Summon a non-Synchro Extra Deck monster to one of this card's Linked Zones: Banish it immediately. This effect cannot be negated. When this card is Link Summoned successfully: You can Special Summon 1 Level 6 or lower Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck to one of this card's Linked Zones, but it's ATK and DEF become 0, also it's effects become negated. If you Synchro Summon a monster successfully: You can move this card to an unoccupied Monster Card Zone on your field. You can only use each effect of "Synchro Linker" only once per turn.
Would something like this salvage Synchros in Links era?
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>>168678461
Shadoll Fusion
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>>168678185
KANASHII
>>
When's premium gold? I want my pot of desires reprints
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>>168678548
>Why not just
>If you summon a non-synchro extra deck monster to one of this card's linked zones, banish that monster.
Then it works like the BA self destructs.
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>>168678563

That one is neat, but I'm looking for some non archetype locked cards to use. Trying to toy with a fusion deck idea so that you don't have to waste cards in your hand or field.
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>>168678548
So this is useless in the EMZ? No backfacing Links?
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>>168678793
Then you're SOL my friend.
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>>168678802
13, anon
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>>168678802
4613 is numpad for left/right/lower left/lower right.
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>Madolche Link Lemonmaid
I need a better hobby than coming up with madolche names.
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>>168678880
Not on my number pads. Fuck living in Upside-Down Land
>>
>Link Magician
>Extra Hero Link
>Link Synchron
>Link Warrior
>Utopia Link
>Odd-Eyes Link Dragon
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>>168678591
mega tins of course
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>>168679110
>Link Zelda
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>>168679110

XD Now I want all of those to be real.
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>>168671606
>Dark Magician

How you people think a deck that can't even defeat once good runner ups like Infernoid/Kozmo/Mermail will be competitive in post Link meta is a mystery, let alone True Dracos.
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>Link Slayer
>(1) If you control no monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand).
>(2) Once per turn: You can discard up to 2 cards, then target that many Spell/Trap Cards on the field; destroy them.
What about this card exactly is a threat to Links?
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>>168679135
Please don't make me wait that long
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>Lunalight Lynx Dancer
-Dark|Beast-Warrior. 2300 ATK
-Link 2
-2 "Lunalight" Monsters
-Links 1,2,3,8
You can only special summon fusion monsters on the ED Monster Zone. You can target one lunalight monster, that monster can attack every monster, twice each. If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect, you can add one Lunalight card from your deck to your hand. You can only use this effect once per turn.
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>>168673732
this

at least increase the ED size
>>
Might be a stupid question but I'll ask. If your card has links at 789 does that mean you just activated spaces for your opponent? Could there be situations where you might not want to play a link because you would give your opponent extra access?
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>>168679354
>If your card has links at 789 does that mean you just activated spaces for your opponent? Could there be situations where you might not want to play a link because you would give your opponent extra access?
Yes.
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Synchro is dead, Timelords when?
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>>168679495
This sounds kind of fun then. Its like there is a shared resource and the players are fighting over it.
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>>168679354
If it's summoned in one of the two initial EMZs at the very least.
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post future link techs.
yang zings can still make this fine
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>pretty big 5Ds fag, yusei is my favorite protag, synchro favorite summoning method
>mfw ever since the second zexal set hit synchroes were doomed to be phased out
>could deal with it, if anything it probably gave me a bit of an underdog complex and it was eventually fun to power through R4 and their bullshit.
>mfw new mechanics straight up unapologetically give synchro decks the axe
>quasar no longer possible
>T.G. no longer playable
>Synchrons no longer playable
>Psychics no longer playable
>Blackwings no longer playable
>Resonators no longer playable
>ect.
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>>168679975
You do know that link has to send monsters to the grave for link summons right?
IE no Tokens
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>>168679975
future link techs.
yang zings can still make this fine
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>>168680310
You do the same with Synchros and it works.
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>>168680638
Synchros dont specify send to grave as their summon cost
Links do
Read
READ
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I hope all of you already have your playsets :^)
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>can no longer do this

FUCK LINKS
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>>168682572
lol
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>>168658098
>implying konami wont print Linkpier 5 sets down and we won't be in the same place we are now
I don't care as I got my cyber heralds and Infernoids ready to fuck some shit up for a couple formats
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Why do we have two threads
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>>168683682
People keep making duplicates. Mods aren't deleting them.
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>>168684042
Your first mistake was expecting the mods to do anything
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>>168683682
THEY'RE LINKED
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>>168684392
I SAID STOP IT
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>>168684504
/DNG/ 168629904 IS LINKED WITH /DNG/ 168657274
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Hey, haven't paid attention to YGO in god knows how long. I think I mentally tuned out around when EmEM or whatever it was called was maximum overcancer the likes of which would make Dragon Rulers puke.

Did Synchros ever get any love since then, or is just shitting out Quasar still the biggest thing they can do God I do not even want to think about how much junk can deal with Quasar these days?
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>>168684980
>Did Synchros ever get any love since then
How's a complete mechanic change where you can only have one (1) extra deck monster on the field for love?
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>set a S/T in your rightmost S/T zone
>pop it
>give your opponent pudding
>you choose what zone to block (?)
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>>168685034
Stop joking.

...did they seriously not print a single viable Synchro deck or Synchro monster since Pendulums hit the scene?
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>>168680734
Synchros do specify send to grave as their summon "cost".
Haven't you ever read Master Guide for synchro?

Also, summoning mechanic doesn't have cost.
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>>168685261
does using him to summon a link monster count as tributing?

>>168685325
;^)
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>>168685325
That wasn't a joke.

IIRC X-Sabers and blackwings got support, Psyframe got made but all that came out of it was the boss monster being splashed.
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>>168685404
>does using him to summon a link monster count as tributing?
does using a monster to summon a synchro monster count as tributing?
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>>168685506
>does using a monster to summon a synchro monster count as tributing?
are link monsters synchro monsters?
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>>168679354
>>168679495
There's nothing indicating about that in the news.
It might be the case, or it might be not the case and it just exist for the monster's effect purpose.

The only one with link 789 is Decoder Talker and he's using it for his ATK gain effect.
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>>168685392
>Synchros do specify send to grave as their summon "cost".
No they dont, if that was the case then you wouldnt be able to summon synchros under dark law
You cannot send tokens to the grave and as such you cannot link summon with them as long as thats the text on the card
gg no re retard
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>>168676528
The EDZ in the middle isn't adjacent to each other.
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WITH THIS COMES THE FALL OF D/D AND D/D/D
NOW THE TRUE DIFFERENT DIMENSION ARCHETYPE WILL RISE TO ITS FORMER GLORY
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>>168685404
>pendulum
Get that trash out of my face

>>168685468
Did any of those support cards mean anything, or did they just die in a fire against Pendulum bullshit? I dimly remember reading something about Psyframe Omega being hit on the banlist, so I guess that's one good Synchro.

Please stop joking though.
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>>168685665
Summoning mechanic doesn't have any cost, that's why you can do it with Dark Law.
Sending monster to grave to perform a certain summoning mechanic is NOT a cost.

Fulfilling a certain summoning procedure in a card is a cost, but not the mechanic.
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>>168685404
no u dummy
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>>168684980
>Did Synchros ever get any love since then
Well Dark synchros were so good in the OCG they got level eater banned
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>>168685790
Actually you may be right, especially since I thought they also had to be effect monsters but that is just for the ACE monster
Should I be buying up scapegoats and reborn tengus?
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>>168679312

So when listing Links, what is:

1-8?

Starting from top left to right, or bottom? I don't get it.
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>>168686234
Numpad.
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>>168686234
Look at the number pad on your keyboard.
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>>168686060
Goddamnit. There goes one of my favorite tools for synchro spam.

What do people even run for Synchro spam these days anyways?
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>>168686331

Zombie synchro
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>>168686331
>Synchro spam

It's dead, son. Give it up.
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>>168686385
I didn't give up when Pendulum garbage took over the game, I'm not giving up now.

>>168686384
Can you explain how that works? I assume Plaguespreader Zombie is involved from the name, but nothing else.
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>>168686546

unizombie + shiranui solitaire ft. mezuki
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>>168686331
Morphtronics.
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>>168686546
Have fun buying Links to summon maybe 1 decent Synchro monster then.
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>>168686331
EARTH Synchro.
>dead by Link
Damnit.
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>>168686636
>putting extra deck monsters into your synchro decks outside of maybe 1 or 2 XYZ at absolute most

15 slot limit makes that too difficult anyways.
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>>168686913
Er, putting non-synchro extra deck monsters into your synchro decks.

God, who would be dumb enough to not run an extra deck these days?
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So has anyone tried testing anything via proxy play yet? And where can I watch it?
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>>168687148
Monarchs don't, but that's because their most recent support requires them to not have an Extra Deck.

Monarchs are probably in heaven at this point.
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>>168686684
>Bubbleman's draw effect
I have never seen this happen before.
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>>168687983

https://twitter.com/halky_nekroz/status/832569970957496321
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In other news
RIP Bahamut Shark
We hardly knew ye
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>>168688370

Cards like bahamut shark and tzolkin do not properly summon from the extra deck, so they should be able to summon into the main monster zone.
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>>168688389
They should be able to, but considering this is Konami I'm assuming worst case scenario by default.
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>>168676528
except each player gets one EMZ unless a card changes that in the future.
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>>168688339
I was thinking a full game.
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>>168677249
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED YET?!
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>>168688959
>not even half the ruling is clear
>full game
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>>168689162
Wait a minute, it's been a good day already, where the fuck is Konami with those rulings?
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>>168685727
I feel sorry for all those people that bought D/D/D cards and Pendulum Domination. Then again, I bought a RR deck, so I'm just as fucked.
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>>168679263
Links are treated as Spell cards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MT6ZAuc5tA

see guys, just use Soul Charge :^)
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>>168679312
This is not how Link Monsters work. Their Link number, i.e. the number of monsters required for their Summon, is the same as the number of Links they have. You can't have a Link-2 monster with 4 Links.
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>>168689417
T-They'll make Link monsters for us, r-right?
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>>168689872
maybe in 3 years
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>>168689572
I closed that video immediately when I saw him Link Summon Decode Talker with just 2 monsters.
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You all thought it was over. You all thought you were safe. But you're not. With unlimited Speed Recovery and Return of the Dragon Lords, it's just beginning. Speedroid Wind Witches will reclaim their rightful place on the top of the food chain. They will flood the field in masses of Synchro Monsters, only aided by the now slower pace of the game.

And if you dare strike back at them, they'll activate KING'S SYNCHRO, bringing forth the now-legendary Shooting Quasar Dragon.
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>>168689924
I can wait.
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>>168689986
Speedroids are dead, lad.
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Give me some good Pendulum or Ritual decks that don't involve the Extra Deck.
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Just play Shadowverse guys, that or Vanguard
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>>168690037
How?
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>>168671008
>given how this changes nothing for zoodiacs or true draco, what's the point in literally fucking over every other rogue shit dekc out there?
Why do you think Konami always hits meta decks in a way that also kills rogue decks? They don't want people playing rogue and pet decks, they want everyone playing their designated meta
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>>168690179
You need to capture a free-for-all Extra Monster Zone in order to Special Summon one (1) Extra Deck Monster onto it. All Extra Deck decks are dead for now.
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>>168678185
People meme about how this doesn't affect Zoodiacs at all but they forget that Zoodiacs aren't just a turn 1 play.
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>>168690282
Yes, and...?
The Wind Witch combo will work as always, because Crystal Wing will occupy the Extra Monster Zone that Clear Wing formerly held. You can just use monsters in your EMZ as stepladders into higher Synchros. And then Speed Recovery and Return of the Dragon Lords can be used to revive used-up Synchros into the Normal Monster Zone.
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>>168689572

You do need Soul Charge in 3-card combo hands though (which is still bad)
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>>168690368
You can only Extra Deck Summon x the number of Extra Monster Zones you have per turn.
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>>168690467
And where did you see that at? As far as everything we've seen so far has shown, Extra Monster Zones are just the only place ED monsters can be summoned to outside of Linked Zones. If you open it up, there is nothing stopping you from placing something else there.
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>>168657274
Post extra decks
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>>168690367
Well, you can just make another of the Link monsters and then continue turn 2.
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What are some other engines to put in eidolon?
Thinking of trying vendor engine at 2/3/3 ratios
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What happens to LINK Monsters when this card is activated?

0 ATK and DEF being the prior ATK points..

oooorr...

no change at all?
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The chances for price hikes and higher raritys for the Link monsters are quite high, right?
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>>168690768
Link monsters have no original DEF value, so they are not valid targets for Shield & Sword. They'll remain unaffected.
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>>168690627
extra decks
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>>168690768
Xyz Monsters do not possess Levels.
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>>168690804
If you call a certainty high, then sure.
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>>168690692
You're making it sound a lot easier than it is, m8.
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>>168690768
What happens to Xyz Monsters when this card is activated?

Thy are treated as level 0..

oooorr...

no change at all?
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>tfw Deskbots are safe
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Thank God

I still don't get how Pendulums work exactly and now I don't have to learn them at all
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>>168690940
but it will be look at the designs of the cybers they spam the baord like it's nothing and they set up grave pretty well.
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>>168690940
Emeral use effect, Drancia pop Emeral, proceed to summon 2 Rat and restart.
Or just use Emeral and Radiant to Link.
Or use the dead Drancia, Emeral, and Radiant to Link.
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>>168690963
NO change. Xyz monsters have ranks, not levels.

>>168690768
They wouldn´t be affected.
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>>168691037
Links don't affect Pendulums though. In fact they'll be more prominent now.
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>>168691090
>NO change. Xyz monsters have ranks, not levels.


The joke
Your head
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>>168691098
>3 S/T
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>>168657274
>build synchros entirely around synchro spam
>kill that type off all together
lmao
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>>168691128
>pendulum decks
>ever needing or setting more than 3 s/t at a time
Majespecters are dead but they already were without Kirin, anyway. Every other Pendulum deck does not give two fucks one way or another.
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>>168691117
To be fair it's not a joke, it's teaching by example.
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>>168657802
There's no such thing as a legal mat (to an extent). You can play with old mats with no pendulum zones, or even mats without zones period.
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>>168691098
Okay Pendulum question then

When you place a Pendulum monster in the Pendulum zone, can you move it into the monster zone by itself? If not by itself, can you use Senet Switch and the like? How do Pendulum ED monsters work, such as XYZ Pendulums, when they are removed from the field and placed on top of the ED, can you pendulum summon them, since they don't have levels? What about banishing Pendulums, how does that shit work?

So many fucking questions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MT6ZAuc5tA
ayy lamao.
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>>168691206
Metal, the pendulem deck that's actually meta after PePe
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>>168690940
It is easy.

Just make a Tigermortar, reattach a Rat, do the Rat combo again, then send Emeral, 1 Rat, and whatever you brought back with Lyca for Gaiasaber (you use Lyca BTW) then make Samurai and attack for 1900, 3800, 1700 and 3100.
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>>168691245
This is just dumb.
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>>168691257
>metalfoes
>ever needing or setting more than 3 s/t at a time
>if they do they can just pop a scale to free up an s/t zone
I want shitters who can't even spell Pendulum to leave.
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>>168691234
Oh shit disregard this, didn't see they're enforcing new mats?

Still I call bullshit. Take my zoneless mat from me, I use no mat. Good job Konami.
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>>168691301
So are Pendulums, at least Links make sense.
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/dng/, is there a list of staples somewhere? Kind of a returning player, last time I played Forbidden Lance was considered a staple
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>>168691417
Ojama King
Senet Switch
Ground Collapse
Rampaging Rhino
Zany Zebra

Wait for a non-shitpost
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>>168690467
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>168691245
>When you place a Pendulum monster in the Pendulum zone, can you move it into the monster zone by itself?
No, why would you be able to?

>If not by itself, can you use Senet Switch and the like?
No, because they're not Monsters while they're in the Pendulum Scale.

>How do Pendulum ED monsters work, such as XYZ Pendulums, when they are removed from the field and placed on top of the ED, can you pendulum summon them, since they don't have levels?
If you actually read the cards, you'd realize they have a special condition that lets you Pendulum Summon them.

>What about banishing Pendulums, how does that shit work?
If you banished a Pendulum, it's banished. What else would happen? A lot of these questions could be solved if you read about them before asking questions.
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>>168691245
>can you move it into the monster zone by itself?
No.
>If not by itself, can you use Senet Switch and the like?
No, because they're not monsters when they're in the Pendulum Zone.
>How do Pendulum ED monsters work, such as XYZ Pendulums, when they are removed from the field and placed on top of the ED, can you pendulum summon them, since they don't have levels?
In all of the Pendulum Xyzs we've seen, yes.
>What about banishing Pendulums, how does that shit work?
They're banished like normal.
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>>168691417
What a bad time to come back man.
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>>168691496
>>168691513
Thanks, that clears up some things
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>>168691314
>no backrow Metal
Shitter get out.
If you have 3 set S/T and complete scale, you can't activates spell at all.
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>>168691686
>not needing 5 backrow is the same as running no backrow
I want shitters who can't use proper grammar to leave. Read what I'm saying carefully, Pedro. 3 S/T zones are all you'll ever really need playing Metalfoes, even if you're setting Counters and Combinations left and right. You rely on your monsters for the majority of your disruption, backrow just helps.

In the event that you DO need more slots then that, then congratulations, you have the honor of playing the archetype that can pop their own cards whenever they want. Really want to use that Metalfoes Fusion, but your backrow is full because you're playing like a fucking dumbass? Pop your other Scale if you have to, it's now a normal S/T zone and you can place another Scale back there if you need it afterwards.
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Link Spider Mk2
EARTH Cybers-Type Link Monster
LINK-1
Links: 8
Materials: 1 Effect monster

Do you think shit like this will ever comes out?
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>>168691960
>LINK-1
>Links: 8
How are there STILL people who don't get this? It's a very simple concept.
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Regarding these new rules how many limited and banned cards will be coming off the list?
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>>168692030
That's the exact same stat as Link Spider.
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>>168692158
The amount of Links you get is the Link stat.
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>>168692158
What the fuck are you talking about? You can't have a Link-1 that links to 8 fucking zones.
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>>168692030
It's Numpad 8, which is to say ↑
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>>168692183
>>168692216
See >>168692221

That's my mistake anyway.
Should have put 2.
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>>168691250
>summoning Code with only 2 effect monsters
Didnt know the overlords are CHEATERS
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>>168691920
You see, their usual "backrow" is a Counter and a Fullmetal Fusion.
That's normally achieved by popping their own scale before Pendulum summoning.
That's full backrow already, if you want to use Spell.

Popping your own scale? Congrats, said spot is immediately filled by S/T since that's what Metal do.

Disruption mostly by monster? Can't rely on this since Zood era with Kaiju and Slumber running rampant.
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>>168692508
He's a BR monkey.
>>
Icebell is worth 10$ right?
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>>168692618
You're a BR monkey.
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>>168692783
You're a Monkey.
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>can't flood opponent with Black Garden token since they'll use it to Link summon for free
>but Black Garden + Remove Brainwashing is infinite Link summon
Good thing Marella+Booby Trap exist.
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>>168692681
You tell me, retard.
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/yugioh/raging-tempest/windwitch-ice-bell
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>>168693189
thanks!
>>
Best change to YGO in years.

The age of turn 3 wins, first turn full hand burns, and unbeatable fields is over.

Only WAAC fags are bothered.
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>>168693250
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>>168693250
>The age of turn 3 wins, first turn full hand burns, and unbeatable fields is over.

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>when you shit on a fluffal player with crystrons because he's a fucking dumbass and apparently thought kraken's effect was hard opt
I can't wait to take advantage of people never reading cards in a card game once Links are a thing.
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>>168693250
>The age of turn 3 wins, first turn full hand burns, and unbeatable fields is over.
:^)
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>>168692901
actually this is a good way to beat out link summons if you know the deck and the list you make a backrow heavy deck that is able to spam to counter his link summons.
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>>168693250
Wrong.

Zoos still OTK turn two or 3 with just 2 cards. It's just Zoo Kaiju is officially the best build.
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>When a Link Monster is Link Summoned: Destroy all unlinked monsters on the field.
So by 'unlinked monsters', I assume it means a Link Monster with no current Links would be destroyed, but a Link Monster with 1 or more Links would be protected along with all of its linked monsters.

It also means if you're unfortunate enough to not run any Link Monsters of your own, you can get field wiped if your opponent summons a Link Monster.

Are you ready for Traptrix to become meta again after their Link is revealed?
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So Pendulum vs new rule
If Konami were sensible, I think it'll go like this:
>New rule makes it so you can only special summon [face-down extra deck monsters in your extra deck] to the EMZ and the Linked Zone mechanic
That way it'll be futureproof in case Konami wants to make another Extra Deck card type, while also not conflicting with pend's gimmick (Pend already got a nerf, so I doubt they'd nerf it even more) and also make it easier for retards to understand why revived Extra Deck monsters go the MMZ.
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>>168693703
Ygorg translation
Zetsuen no Otoshiana / Breakoff Trap Hole
Normal Trap Card
(1) When a Link Monster is Link Summoned: Destroy all Unlinked Link Monsters on the field.
>Unlinked Link Monsters

Dunno.
It seems fucking unfair that a trap hole to hit everything that isn't the new mechanic.
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>>168693703
Suppose the question is if Link Monsters innately link themselves. Would make Decode Talker even better, in that case.
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>>168657360
>>168657360
They are stores saying that selling yugioh merchandise is on hold and they will let us know later on for further information
They then apologize

Some wondergoo says it's up until the april
Another puts a smaller limit saying 1-6pm Saturday is fine.
>>
When do you think TCG will get the new rules?
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>>168693703
>basically a trap Raigeki.
It's okay but I think you're overestimating how slow this card is.
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>>168693883
Presumably when the Starter Deck for Yusaku comes out here.
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>>168693883
Probably around August.
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>>168693835
I got that translation from the wiki, so I'm not sure which is more accurate. Konami is pushing Link hard though, so I wouldn't be surprised. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

>>168693850
Yeah, that's an important question I wanna know more about.

>>168693925
I wouldn't, since things are going to be slower than before in general. Depending on what the exact rulings for Links end up being, it could be a new staple in the future. Dimensional Barrier will likely fall out of favor since it doesn't stop Links, so there'll be an opening in trap lineups.
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>>168693835
it's not really as powerful as you're making it out go be my man. Go reread the other trap hole card effects.
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>>168693835
Pretty fair it hits the progression of the game if the opponent has remnants in the field after link summoning this card makes him pay lose extra moves. The same goes with solemning a link monster the opponent loses extra cards to get to the extradeck.
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>>168694031
True, but at the same time if your opponent DOES link summon he'll definitely have a card or 2 linked, if your opponent doesn't link you need to wait until your next turn to link and have it go off, you know what i mean?
It's definitely good but I feel that It's a little conditional.
Still pretty good though, not bad at all but not super amazing.
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>>168694034
Other Trap Hole doesn't hit unrelated monster though, except maybe Giant Trap Hole.
It's like a Pendulum Hole will destroy every monster that isn't Pendulum summoned when you Pendulum summon.

>>168694128
>solemning a link monster
>free the EMZ
Hm.
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Ritual monster meta incoming.

Double summoning standard.

Blasting the ruins OTK.
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>>168694402
>not wanting your opponent to waste more resources.
>>
if the generic CODU Link support that doesn't come in the SD is ultra or higher I'm quitting the game.
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>>168694850
You're better off killing whatever they try to summon with the EMZ since Link summon is dirt cheap.
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>>168694873
That means you won't quit for at least half a year?
In Rat meta?
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>generic Link cards are in the Starter Deck, so they're easily available like how Top and Bottom Magicians for Arc-V and Utopia for Zexal were
I'm fine with this.
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>>168695056
tfw Stardust Dragon has never been printed in a structure deck.
feelsbadman.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNc7vV7WzE
Link-2 that requires 2 fiend monsters when?
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>>168695056
>Top and Bottom Magicians
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>>168695497
Daddy Magician and Fuccboi Magician
>>
LINK GEMINIS WHEN
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Starter with Links launches by the end of March, so we getting links by the end of April then?
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>>168695693
No the japs are

We get it summertime unless Konami pushes it forward
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>>168657529
El Link Shaddoll Construct
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So can a link 2 monster summon another link 2 monster by itself?

Is there confirmation that the link material has to be on the field?
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>tfw if the new Traptrix is a link monster it will have 2800 attack
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>>168696047
Unless it has a restriction, seems so

Decode Talker is Link 3, but it has the ''2 or more monsters'' restriction, meaning you cant use a Link 3 to summon it, unless there exists a Link Eater or something later
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TCG Exclusive Link Dante when
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Wait a second since Link Monsters have no levels doesnt that mean my Infernoids have just been majorly buffed
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>>168689417
I bought both :)
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>tfw Konami doesn't make Link monster for Iron Chain
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>>168696453
>isn't affected by ED restriction
>get rid of Snow and noid in field by Link Summon
>can even get rid of noid Tierra by Link summon
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>>168696625
Dont forget how easy it is for the deck to link climb and Lord Omega can escape the EMZ as well.
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>>168657274
I'm confused about the wording on the article, does it imply you can only have 2 ED monsters out on the field?
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>>168696745
2 new zones that can initially only be used for Extra Deck monsters.

Once one of these zones is occupied the other zone becomes your opponent.

To summon more ED monsters you need to use a Link Monster, whose arrows will indicate what other zones can be used for ED monsters.
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>>168696745
It /tells/ you that you can only have one unless you're using a link monster.

The number then becomes dependent on the Link markers your Link Monster has.

If you were thinking you could steal the other Extra Monster Zone, then no, that is given to your opponent the moment you claim yours.
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>>168696979
>>168696830
Why would Konami do something like this?
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Aliens coming back?
Literally steal the link monsters and place them where you want.
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>release new d/ds in a set that murders the deck
bravo konami
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>>168697087
Because the current game is shit?
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>>168697224
No they are dead. You can't have Gol'garr + King Imp easily anymore which makes them back to 5D's era strength.
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>Arc-V celebrated all of the mechanics
>this ruins all of them except tributes andrituals
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>>168697087
>>168697087
The overlords are asking the same thing:
https://twitter.com/odt_1/status/832548956743692288
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>>168697724
Any chance of backpedaling as the months go by?
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>>168697240
If we assume competence that means there's something to render D/D/D not shit coming out.
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>>168697770
Of course, Konami fans like the abuse after awhile.
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monster reborn unlimited when?
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All Monarch cards to 3 when
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>>168697775
So a D/D/D Link monster?
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>>168697224
you can try alien infiltrator with senet switch
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>>168697878
I meant Konami backpedaling the rules

;_;
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Christ why hasn't a automatic simulator adapted to link duels already?
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>>168694936
Good god you are retarded.
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>>168698101
Because it completely revamps the game?
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>>168698018
It would have to be unless Konami are even more insane than they already are and make non-link cards that allow more extra deck space, which thinking about it isn't that insane
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>>168698101
Salvation apparently has it, but Salvation is shit and doesn't even work.
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>>168698175
If I could get like space for 5 links, I think I won't have much to complain. That if we don't get a link extra
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So can Alien Infiltrator move to those new zones?
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>>168697240
Hoe dies DDD even do any plays with the new rules?
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>>168698175
>>168698350
Shit, I meant allowing you to have more board slots to summon extra deck cards. I royally fucked that one up
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>>168698365
You hang yourself with Reiji's scarf
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>>168698419
Sounds like a sound Keikaku.
I wonder if this is all part of his plan.
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Link summon best summon.

Its synchro without the bullshit tuners
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>>168698365
They still have plays, some were posted in a previous thread. Or maybe you'll find some in one of the /a/rc-vrain threads
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>>168698365
Opening hand -
Kepler/Gate, Necroslime or Swirl Slime


Get your Dark Contract
Fuse Necroslime and Swirl Slime together to make d'Arc


Set Dark Contract with the Witches and Full Force Virus

When your opponent makes plays, before they can linku, use Full Force Virus. Then for the rest of the game, search Necroslimes to throw at the opponent with Witches.
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>>168698581
W-wow what a """""game plan"""""
I was kind of expecting something involving link monsters, because you as me know theres going to be broken pieces of shits among them.
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>>168698664
Links are going to be retarded if any of them have any on summon effects

I can't wait for the Non OPT Link monster that just links itself 3 times!
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>>168698492
is xyz but without levels
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So Konami just spent the last few years building up Extra Deck support just to trash it?
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>>168698664
While we don't get a Link 2 that they can summon consistently, their options are pretty limited.
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I need something to soothe the pain of all this link summoning garbage
I need some decks that play mainly from the main deck
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>>168698664
People already had strategies with them in previous threads though.

Some don't even need them, using Ragnarok in pendulum to revive stuff and abusing the face revived monsters can be placed in normal monster zones
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>>168698739
Yes, and they already got all your money
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>>168698754
Oh right the only Link-2 monster with decent link markers is the Zoodiac support one right.
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>>168698732
Fusion without the poly. Oh wait contact fusion

Link monster Heroes when?
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>>168698810
Just play REMOVERAT, they are almost completely unaffeted by the change.
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>>168698857
its synchro without tuners
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>>168698810
True Dracos
Skull Servants
Deskbots
Blue-Eyes
Dark Magician
Spyral, Subterror, Kozmo, and Noble Knights if you feel like TCG-ing it up
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>>168698810
>Garbage

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the turn 1 game we have now is good in even the slightest sense?

A game where a single archetype dominates the entire game? because it just vomits its stupid fucking self onto the board or sets up unbeatable backrow and negation?

Admit it, you just don't like it because its change.
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>>168698928
>He thinks it won't STILL be a turn 1 or die game
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>>168698928
I don't like it because its a shitty change. Also, that archetype is pretty much unaffected by this.
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>>168698928
>he thinks the game won't devolve into Link spam meta.
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>>168698928
>A game where a single archetype dominates the entire game?
But that shit didn't change at all.
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>>168698928
Yes. At least everything was "playable".
And the "1-3 archetypes are the strongest !!! It's boring !!!" Excuse is dumb, metagames exists since the beginning of time and will always exist.
I hate Zood, but at least they were splashable and buffed some decks.
Links make us unable to actually play ED archetypes even shitty pet decks ones; while Zood dominated the game, I was still able to play Duston, D/D/D or fucking Fusion Hero against them if I wanted to.
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Honestly wouldn't mind this shit if link monsters had def and levels.
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>>168698928
Most archetypes are dead, Rat is as strong as ever, Link spam will be a thing in about 1 year. Do you seriously think this was a good change?
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Boy, I can't wait to play link or die if I want to play a character deck from an older YGO.
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>>168698857
>E-Heroes are Comic Books
>Destiny Heroes are British Anti-Heroes
>Masked Heroes are Kamen Riders
>Link Heroes are ______
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>>168699127
D/D/D is still playable fusion hero is still playable you are just talking shit without research you made this shitty movie on your head that this mechanic leaves zoods alone when it does not they can't completely use the rank 4 tool box and generate massive fields you fuckwit.
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>>168699171
>Link spam will be a thing in about 1 year.

I am eagerly awaiting this just to see history repeat itself.
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>>168699128
How would link monsters having def fix that extra deck reliant decks have to pray to get decent link support or they are dead and that link summon spam is something Konami will inevitably do and it will be worst than STOP SYNCHRO SUMMONING.
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>>168698928
I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THE BEST DECKS (MASTER PEACE/NOIDS/ZOOS) ARE UNAFFECTED YOU RETARD
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>>168693286
give list please
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>everyone in ocg used zoodiacs
>links are the new zoodiacs now
t-thanks nips
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that Links are also monsters.
Like you aren't gonna summon them JUST for links, they're also gonna have insane bullshit effects like the rest of the ED monsters.
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>>168699258
> it does not they can't completely use the rank 4 tool box and generate massive fields you fuckwit.
How does it feel to have a one track mind that doesnt consider that Zoods just have to slightly change their combos to still do their bullshit?

Maybe you have forgotten, but Link monsters can also use XYZ monsters as material.
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>>168699258
>>168699258
Summoning 1 D'arc and waiting with traps isn't what I call alive. What I'm saying is that they litterally ERASED many game combos and archetypes related playstyle with this shit.
At least, Xyz, Synchro and Pendulums never "changed" the actual fondamentals rules.
I never said that ?! Can you even fucking read ?
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>>168699258
>fusion hero is still playable
Are you stupid or what? Elemental Hero/Masked Hero decks even if fusion only require more than one fusion monster on the field. Contrast Hero Chaos just got even more impossible to summon with this method
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>>168699337
>open rat
>make radiant + drancia
>open barrage
>make radiant + drancia + emeral

what a change link made
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You guys are being dramatic as fuck about Zoo still being good. It's still strong, but the changes definitely affected them. Also stop acting like they made Link to shot on Zoo. They definitely had this shot in the works at least at the same time as zoo.
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>>168699439
Dont worry the banlist will take care of this the moment you decide to buy zoods.
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>>168699601
Just like the last one, right?
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reminder that pic related is still good and is a one card link 2 while still being able to normal summon twice
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>>168699414
and you seem to forget that zoods recycling effects are very very fragile.
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>>168699547
Only in a minor way when compared to other decks. Look at the meta decks, of course their strategies have to be adapted and they cant play 1:1, but thats basically they have to do. Adapt and continue on. And a fitting link monster has already been announced for them.

Lower tier decks cant just adapt, they need to pray that they get a generic link monster or something that supports them. Otherwise their power level will fall so dramatically its not even funny.
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>>168699418
They didn't ERASE shit they added an extra step you tard.

>At least, Xyz, Synchro and Pendulums never "changed" the actual fondamentals rules.
Look where that shit got us today.
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How are Nekroz shaping up with these new rules?
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>>168699652
Thats just cause you havent bought Zoods yet.
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>>168699774
You cannot do many DDD combos now.
The combos are erased from the game.
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>>168699857
FREE NEKROZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168699857
Still 99% banned / 10
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Well I found that I have a spare playset of Ground Collapse.

I personally don't get the hype but if people want to shell out good money for it I might as well make someone happy.
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>>168699686
They don't need no recycling when they win turn 3.
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>>168699774
>added an extra step
I'm not aware that Link monster can summon their material for free.
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>>168699857
That depends on how good Zoodiac Nekroz is.
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Are Ojamas the new meta?
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>>168699439
They can still end up with Drancia and Emeral if they open Rat.
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>>168700273

You need the normal summon.
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>>168700323
See >>168662132
You don't even need Link monster.
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>>168700175
>Do the Missus Radiant Zoodiac combo so you have Radiant, Drancia, and Emeral
>Kaleido into Clausolas and Valk, tribute Valk and Radiant for free draws
>Now you can pop your opponent's links with Drancia and negate their only extra deck play with Clausolas
>Trish them next turn
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>>168700476
I think I might stock up on a Nekroz deck just in case.
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>>168700476
>4-card combo
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I didn't think the game could get any worse after Zoodiacs became a thing. Thanks for proving me wrong, Konami.
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>>168700476
The combo needs the normal summon so you cant Manju/Senju making this pretty unreliable.
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>>168699384
Well, people are idiots.
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>>168699384
>insanely generic
>insane bullshit effects
Fund it.
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>>168699384
That and it has to take up a slot in your Extra Deck so it really has to make the cut to get out there.

Meanwhile I'm thinking the Number F0: Utopic Future might need to shift into a different card since I would need a link monster to summon it anyhow.
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>Manual dueling mirrors real-life dueling, which I think helps a lot with teaching newer players rulings and game mechanics, while automatic does everything for you, giving you no reason to know what you're doing.
Where do these people even come from? This argument has never made sense yet it's such a common argument.
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>>168700902
It'll take time but it'll certainly happen. Hell, even right now Decode Talker is a decent beatstick if you link him up and shit. Don't know about the others.
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>>168700726
You can make Emeral with a Manju/Senju and one of the rats, and overlay into Drancia with the second Rat.

>>168700584
Just need Barrage, a ju, and any ritual spell. Still way more viable than D/D/Dead.
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>>168701098
>requires 3 mats
>gives your opponent a zone to link summon
why would you use it?
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>>168701098
Hes not just a decent beatstick, hes a fucking omni negator.
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>>168701216
>gives your opponent a zone to link summon
We're not sure about that yet.

Besides, he negates.
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Thank God yugioh duel links exist
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>>168701268
3 mats is still too much. It's not going to be worth it. It's the Utopia of Links.
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>>168701216
The question is when will they print a generic Link 2 monster that can special summon another monster for a link summon so you can easily Link 3 summon.

Link 2 is going to be the new R4ank anyways.
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>>168701038
The best argument I've seen of it is that it doesn't teach you to look for "soft cheating". If your opponent uses Pot of Duality after summoning a Malefic from their hand and you don't catch that because you were never trained to it can hurt you and make you lose when you really shouldn't have.

I'm still an advocate for automatic so when you play you are informed of what you can do with your deck for the future.
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>>168701038
>automatic dueling does everything for you, which I think helps a lot with teaching newer players rulings and game mechanics, while in manual you need to do everything, giving you no reason to know what you're doing.
There you go.
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>>168700067
>claim first Extra Monster Zone for yourself
>Lock out the area behind the remaining zone

What's so hard to get?
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I want to return to Blaster ;) meta.
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What game should I play instead of Yu-Gi-Oh?
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>>168701216
He negates the opponents linked zone so thats strong.
He's obviously not gonna be great considering hes an early card + the MCs main card but still there's no doubt links won't be incredibly dumb and we can special summon spam like usual with an added really strong link monster.
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>>168701235
for targeting effects.
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>>168701318
Decode Talker the LIGHTNING

>You can also link summon this by overlaying on top of Decode Talker
>Three uplinks
>Once per turn during the battle phase, this card gains 5000 attack when attacking a linked monster, your opponent cannot activate cards or effects until the end of the Damage Step
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>>168701235
>omni negator
>can only negate card that target your card
It's not as omni as Infinity.
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>>168701427
>He negates the opponents linked zone so thats strong.
what
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>>168701431
And how lucky that most effects in the current meta target!
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>even if all the cards I wanted off the banlist came off I still couldn't play those decks
fug
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>>168701382
It seems like a win more card to me. You're assuming that you can lock your opponent down to not be able to summon in the main zone for either player's link monster allowing special summons. It doesn't top deck very nicely. It doesn't really do much for you to start winning. It's easy to remove.

With that being said I'm still keeping a play set for me if I find it more useful than I do now.
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>>168698343
>>168698343
is it automatic? I cannot do manual
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>>168701427
>the MCs main card
Hes probably not going to be the MCs main card. Hes most likely going to be the Junk Warrior.
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>>168701572
My bad, I got confused about his negation effect.
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>>168701580
I was just correcting you no need to be a bitch about it.
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>>168701382
>Activate MST/Cosmic Cyclone/Twin Twisters/Typhoon/Castel, the Skyblaster Musketeer/Cybers, the Linkblaster Musketeer

nice tech yugibaobaboon
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>>168701580
>handtrap
>Solemn brigade
>Barrier
>mass destruction
>Kaiju
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>>168701721
s-sorry
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>>168701880
Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell if you're REALLY wanting to stop it.
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>>168701880
Is anyone willingly choosing MST over Cosmic at this point?
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>>168701880
>Cybers, the Linkblaster Musketeer
>tfw when this is going to be a thing
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>>168702084
Metalfoes
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>>168701369
Are you being sarcastic? Because that's actually entirely correct.
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>>168702257
That's just the opposite of the common argument.
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>Rescue Ferret
>Link Summons
>Castle Link shows Terrorking Archfiend and Desrook Archfiend in the art

Was he a time traveler or did he secretly work for Konami? How soon do I have to stock up on Archfiend Heiresses?
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>>168702436
No way.
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>>168702615
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/124705204/#124781634
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>>168702436
>How soon do I have to stock up on Archfiend Heiresses?
As soon as possible.
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>>168702736
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/124705204/#124781634

Holy shit. I wonder where he is now.
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>>168702436
bakana
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>>168702436
Holy shit, thats crazy.
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>>168702436
I was too late to stock up on Senet Switches, but Archfiend Heiress I can do.
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>>168702257
And it's correct.
When it's automated you can't make illegal plays. Which teaches the limits of the cards even to unperceptive players. And it also gives players options that they may or may not have understood that they could choose if they for whatever the reason can't read or understand the basic rules or rulings. Meaning that they'll be able to pick up on the more intricate workings of the game.

Meanwhile. With manual play. If a player is being dumb dummy and there is no one to slap them on their fingers. They can just carry on being a dumb dummy dumb dumb without ever even realizing it.
What's worse. If their opponent is also being a dummy dumb dumb, or worse yet a cheating and or lying sack of shit. And they don't realize it either due to inexperience or being unperceptive, it can just confuse them further.

There is nothing about manual play that magically teaches someone how to play, while also not preventing them from making illegal plays outside the possibility of another player/observer catching, pointing it out, and being correct themselves at that.
But with automatic play, neither players can make illegal plays whether or not they wanted to or not. Meaning that all plays they observe are legal plays they can learn from, and all plays they make are legal plays they can learn from.
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>>168703041
But automation can miss out on some things.
I remember for fucking ages you couldn't do some trick with Swap Frog on YGOPro.

And of course there's then the issue of it telegraphing the fact you have a potential counter by pausing every time your opponent plays something.
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Why are people so willing to take Konami's abuse?
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>>168703303
>And of course there's then the issue of it telegraphing the fact you have a potential counter by pausing every time your opponent plays something.
If you hold down M2 or S that doesn't happen. And if you hold down M1 or A you can pause even if you have nothing to chain.

You could always mind game like that.
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>>168703418
>willing
>5 thread of whining
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>>168703521
I meant outside of here
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>>168703423
I'm pretty sure there's still a very brief delay even if you hold S.
Unless they ironed that out since I last touched YGOPro.

Both Automated and Manual are imperfect.
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>>168702436
Mind blowing
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Konami was a mistake
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>>168702436
I'm going to get a playset of heiress, just in case
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>>168702436
I'll do just in case.
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>>168702436
>senet switch
what a trash meme
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>>168695481
DANTE IS FINALLY KILL
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How I can help you, King D/D/D
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>>168705195
I did the same. I receive 18 of them this week. I hope it'll rise in price.
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>>168705925
I need a Link Monster to clobber that there metagame!
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What's a good deck to invest in with the new LInk changes?
I think Resonators might be pretty good, can i get a second opinion?
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>>168707016
Zoodiac
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>>168707016
Resonators are a fair investment, since they typically get started by climbing off of Red Rising or Scarlight anyway. Abyss' negation will only get more powerful with the game being slower, and Bane's revived RDAs will go into the main monster zones.
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>>168707240
Thanks, Is there a good site to check prices for the full deck or is it going to be some manual note-pad marking off TCG players prices?
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Are Circle and Navigation going to be reprinted soon? Could we expect it in Duelist Saga or the mega tins? I might invest if the deck will be good for meta play now.
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>>168707016
zoodiac, mermail atlantean, infernoid, true kings, kozmos, dark magician, blue eyes
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>>168707501
Oh yeah Infernoids are going to be silly with Link-summons.
Isn't Lawnmowing a secret?
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>>168707431
I'd mark them down manually, but that's just me. I'd also wait a bit longer to be sure of all the rulings and maybe have some more exact ones before you invest too much into anything.
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>>168707640
yea, unfortunately. pretty sure its going for 30+ atm
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>>168707501
herald with cyber angels. They get the full negation past extra decks had but main decked. Even scarier is they aren't effect by this in the slightest and other decks most likey had to bait out negations to try to get something from the extra to deal with herald are even weaker.
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Are monarchs still that good in the new format? Didn't they get fucked over heavily by the banlist?
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>>168707501
Ground Collapse Ojamas.
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>>168707904
no, not as long as stormforth is limited.
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>>168707501
Darklords look pretty strong from where I'm sitting as well.
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>>168707723
Fair enough, maybe the prices for some of the common Extra-deck shit might go down because of the new ruling changes.
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>>168703639
There isn't. Though if you lag there will be a slight delay after each and every action you make, completely disregarding whether or not you can actually chain or not.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Summon
>Of all the summoning methods so far Synchro Summoning has the highest skill ceiling, with many Synchro-based decks requiring intricate combos with upwards of 20-steps.
lel
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>>168708424
that's 100% true. Don't vworry, in 3 years links will be brokenand you'll be wondering wth you were happy about.
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>>168693286
>All of that is still completely legal under Link Rules since it never had more than 1 monster from the extra deck out at a time
Praise Zefra
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mfw you can't Kaijuu cards in the EMZ so My scarlight is ever slightly saver.
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>play this game for years upon years
>don't actually know the rules regarding where you are allowed to place shit you special summon/tribute summon
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>>168709189
What has tribute got to do with final card position?
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>>168709346
Ah wait, I forgot how Kaiju's work.
Never mind, shame though it would've been a pretty nice trade-off.
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Ojamaking at 18 bucks same for ground collapse this so fucking retarded!
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I like how Konami is polling the new jump promo pretending the cute waifu magician isn't going to dominate.

MAYBE some fags will vote Geh but why even bother putting in shitty-eyes shitty blade or the steadfast.
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>>168709437
Ojama king is stupid and a huge waste of resources. No way those don't get errata'd to "Normal Monster Zones".

If we number the NMZs 1-5 then Ground Collapsing 2 and 4 pretty much fucks over all big extra deck plays though.
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>>168709331
the player can place cards where they want.

The video games do this automatically, but some give you the option of choosing.
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>>168709820
>Normal Monster Zones
>NMZ
Aren't they called MAIN Monster Zones?
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>>168709967
Yeah you're right. MMZ then.
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So has anybody, overlords or otherwise, figured out an engine to get Decode Talker on the field quickly and easily?
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>>168710496
Zoodiacs
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>>168710054
WARE WA
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>>168710496
Zoodiacs have so far.
I'll try experimenting with it once it's introduced.
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>>168708171
Fuck off you attention whore.
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>>168710496
Run current synchro deck engines but summon Link monsters instead?
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Working on RUM Skittles. Thoughts on how to improve it? I'm especially looking at fixing the sideboard to be ready for Zoodiacs.

List:
Main:
Battle Fader x3
Effect Veiler x2
Kinka-Byo x2
Kuribohrn x3
Mystic Piper x3
Raidraptor - Last Strix x3
Rainbow Kuriboh x3
Swift Scarecrow x3
Treeborn Frog x1
Dark Hole x2
One Day of Peace x1
One for One x1
Pot of Duality x2
Raigeki x1
Rank-Up-Magic Astral Force x3
Rank-Up-Magic Skip Force x3
Twin Twister x2
Upstart Goblin x1
Skill Drain x1

Extra:
Number 77: The Seven Sins x2
Number 99: Utopic Dragon x2
Raidraptor: Ultimate Falcon x3
Raidraptor: Satellite Cannon Falcon x2
Number 39: Utopia Roots x2
Number F0: Utopic Future x1
Slacker Magician x1
Number 54: Lion Heart x1
Lyrical Luscinia - Recite Starling x1

Side Deck:
Maxx "C" x2
Prohibition x3
Magic Deflector x3
Vanity's Emptiness x1
Mask of Restrict x3
Imperial Iron Wall x1
Debunk x2
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>>168710952
>can't Level Eater Link monsters
eh
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>>168711062
already have the photo we don't need the text
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>>168710496
Scapegoat.
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>>168711165
>summon level 8 monster
>Link summon using Level Eater only to Link-4
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>>168711231
Requires effect monsters
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>>168711431
Change them to Link Spider first.
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>>168711503
So you'd have 2 link spiders and 2 tokens. What's the next step of your master plan
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>>168711503
Yeah but that means putting two cards in the Extra Deck that you didn't start with AND that nothing stops the summons.
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>>168711503
Can't make 3 Spiders, their Markers point down.
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>>168711615
>>168711714
Link Spider and Missus Radiant into Decoder.

>>168711631
What the hell are you talking about?
Reaper is solid proof that ED space is no cost at all.
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>>168711615
The idea of 2 easy Link Spiders at first excited me but then made me realize even if we do get an xyz that requires Link monsters, it'll probably be 2 Link 2 monsters, since all non-link monsters techincally are link 1.
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>>168711798
>if we do get an xyz that requires Link monsters
That'll never happen.
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>>168711764
Reaper?
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>>168710496
With some changes, a R1 spam deck should be able to get it out easily enough.
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>>168711876
If this is possible, anything is.
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>>168711615
GET A LOAD OF THIS
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>>168711798
We'll get Links that requires Links, but never an Xyz or Synchro Link, because they don't have levels nor ranks.
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>>168711972
Just like Pendulum Rituals, right?
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>>168711884
Ugly loli.
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>next hand trap loli prevents the use of a monster zone (EMZ or MMZ) for the turn it's played
is it good? Being able to immediately fuck their single EMZ on turn 1 would be pretty strong.
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>Konami can't even make their stream work
Why do we let them in charge of a children's card game?
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>>168712215
>t1 Domain with no cost
Fuck you.
Not even Barrier is this strong.
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>>168657274
How Konami can save this
BAN INVOKER
Rat to limit
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>>168712228
because tewart is a child
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>>168712228
>children's card game
epic meme
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What's the best petdeck for a lolicon?
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>>168712513
>ban invoker
>when the new rules have destroyed him completely anyway
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>>168712573
Igknight Zexal lock.

>yet another petdeck fucked up by Link
FUCKING GODDAMNIT
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>>168712724
He turns an instant R3 into an instant Missus Radient I suppose.
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>>168712724
>Special Terrortop
>Add and summon Taketomborg
>Make Invoker
>Use Invoker's effect to Summon an EARTH Zoodiac monster
>Make Missus Radiant

>destroyed
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>>168703576
>outside of here
>shit ton of jap card shops aren't going to carry ygo anymore
????
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>>168713094
>ends up with no other monster
Your next plan?
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>>168713217
>Normal Summon Rat
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>>168712573
>all of this panic over link monsters
>tripfags abandoning ship
>shops refusing to stock product
>when any play that gave you an xyz/synchro before will now give you a cool as fuck link monster that enables all your old plays
???
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>>168713253
>changing Rat starter into just Missus Radiant
Heh.
There's better way to do that shit.

>>168713086
You want instant Missus Radiant?
Pic related is instant Missus Radiant.
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>>168713432
They'll be back anyway.
>>
https://twitter.com/S0non0S/status/832746498097963009
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>168713449
Except that's trash and is much worse than terrortop into Invoker.
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>>168713432
>when any play that gave you an xyz/synchro before will now give you enabler for all your old plays, instead of the board you want
Fixed that for you.
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>>168713685
But the board you want is probably some degenerate junk that ends in 2-3 omni-negations on turn 1.

Link Monsters are a stopgap that forces you to expend extra resources and play smartly instead of just vomiting out the same lockdown plays every game. Didn't people want a change from that shit?
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>>168713621
You know what else is 1-card Missus Radiant?
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>>168713852
>play smartly
I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>168713603
Oh, this was already posted. >>168657567
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>>168699683

What would you dump with Seraphinite to make it a 1-card Link 2? Trick Clown is not EARTH.
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>>168714004
Not that?
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>>168714004
>Winged Beast-Type/DARK/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0
>DARK
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>aliens are no longer playable at all
For what purpose
They weren't even tier 3
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>>168714194
Change it to Link Spider first, you dumdum.
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>notes
who the fuck
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>>168714136
Radiant (hopefully) won't be the only Link-2 monster.

>>168714159
Gofu is 1-card Radiant.
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>>168714240
Steal Link Monsters
Gain EMZs
Steal some more
Summon monsters
????
Victory
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>>168714295
Well done you've wasted 2 ED spots more than the other options.
>>
>>168712228
They can't. They should give back Yu-Gi-Oh! to Bandai.
>>
>>168714295
Will that card be the solution to all of our problems? Has Extra Deck size been reduced to 12 now since you are forced to run Tokens and 3 copies of that shit on everything?
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>>168714418
What stream is this?
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>>168714581
>Yugioh plamo
>gundam becomes an archetype
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>>168714004

Are we all under the assumption that you can summon Link monsters with Tokens? Did they mention it on the magazine if you could?
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>>168714526
Remember Ugly loli?
And aiming to summon Radiant is not a good idea anyway.
He's useless.

>>168714613
I say wait until more Link-1 revealed.

>>168714730
It should work just like Synchro until further notice.
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>>168714730
Synchros can, so there is nothing that makes me think that Links can't.
>>
Remember, when we hit 750, we already have >>168629904
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>>168713603
>>168657567
>Zoodiac janky 1-card FTK is still alive and well
>>
Am i the only one that wants more Zoodiac Marmorat porn?
>>
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If Konami just removed the new restrictions they implemented for other extra deck monsters and just renamed the "Extra Monster Zone" into "Link Monster Zone" I'd have no complaints.

I hope this negative response sends the message through to their thick skulls.
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>tTtalking about
>I dun saw a guy run radient mirror force!
>why can he attack with that Xyz, the other guy used dimensional barrier
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>>168715540
But then they can't enforce placement ruling on player.
And if they can't enforce it, that would make Link just another Senet.
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>>168715763
they even need notes >>168714418
who the fuck are these people
>>
>>168713432
>>tripfags abandoning ship
This happened a long time ago friendo. If anything, link is just the nail in the coffin.
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>>168715889
Yes they can, because placement will still matter for Link Monster effects.

Either way I feel like there's a big shitstorm brewing with placement rulings; is that not why Senet Switch and other cards effecting columns were abandoned to begin with?
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>>168714713
>>168714581
Bandai ygo is a dream of mine that died long ago. The game made a lot of sense, defense mattered, and Bandai is a better company. Plus the Toei anime was the best anime. I loved Yugioh as a horror/mystery show.
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>>168716178
>placement will still matter for Link Monster effects
For Link user only.
Since the player not using Link doesn't care about the placing, they'll try to cheat as much as they can against the Link user.
You know, just like how your opponent move their monster or S/T out of the way if you ever use Blasting Fuse.

But if they used the ED restriction, now the card placing is traceable and both player can ruleshark their opponent when they sneakily moving their card.
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>Konami shilling D/Ds on their livestream when Links killed them
That's what you get for delaying that shit for over a year. Nobody will buy your shit.
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>>168713603
>>168657567

Is it wrong that something that would've once disgusted the fuck out of me now fills me with a devilish glee because of Konami's retarded decisions?
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>>168658098
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>Coelacanth have the potential to become Link-9 monster if you can summon it
Fish support when?
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>mfw dueling some guy with a Lightsworn Dinosaur deck
>mfw this is a thing
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>>168717412
The highest link possible is 8 m8.
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>>168717412
>fish are going to be fugging monsters at link between this and all of the xyz engines that have now become link-compatible
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>>168657274
Are fluffals still viable? I'd love to use them in locals, but I've been away from the competitive scene for a while now, and I know things change rather fast
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>>168717636
They won't be now.
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>>168717619
Fine.
Link-4 and Link-5.
Or 3 Link-3.
Or Link-8 and Coelacanth.
Or 2 Link-4 and Coelacanth.
It's not like Coelacath will survive next turn anyway.
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>>168629904
>>168629904
>>168629904
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>>168717636
Not anymore sadly. Best you can do is Sabre Tiger + Kraken.
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>>168661164
>Why not give a Link1 three arrows?
Take a fucking guess, even Konami want to balance ED access behind high LINKs.
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>>168717636
eh. I guess? Not with the new rules, but they're still pretty good with the old ones. Such a boring deck to play, tho, I don't get why would you even run them
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>>168717636
Maybe as an engine, but not the whole deck.
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>>168662132
Why the why the why the fuck did they introduce a Zoodiac compatible Link so early? Good job selling your slower game, Konami.
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>>168717907
That's just assumption though.
Educated guess, but still a guess.
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>>168675295
Why do you need one for, Missus Radiant is fantastic?
>>
new threado when?
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>>168719146
>>168717857
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>>168719146
>>168717857
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>>168714819
>>168714878

Oh then Gofu + Armaknight is still a 2-card quasar combo then. Nice.
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>>168719595
Until LE banned, that is.
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>>168657615
>>168657802
source: your ass
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>>168719320
>>168719245
>one day early
meh
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>>168711615
>Summoning 2 Spiders
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