/4ccg/ - End My Life Edition

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Comfy isn't getting banned

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>yfw the goats win the winterb owl

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>>168564598
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

So just to keep this in discussion.

The proposed rule for the cup channel is that if it doesn't warrant a page on the wiki it doesn't belong on the main channel.

Comfy Channel can exist separately and anyone who is still unhappy at this point should just kill themselves.

>>168564630
>"Stopped judging boys underwear competitions"
>Implying Ronaldo would even consider this

Reposting
https://strawpoll.com/5s41wdc

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>>168564598
>yfw they get relegated (again)

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>>168564441
If I crush this frog will you cry?

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>>168564803
enjoy the fetus cup la

>>168564913
inb4 he claims he's a fan of /anime dump board which isn't in fetus/

>>168564913
We'll enjoy it together, m8..

>>168564730
Reminder that this had a wiki page.

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_D%26D

>>168565009
You can tell a bit by the anime character they posted, not sure who that one was though, looks /u/ related

>>168565107
I can't wait until Trump purges the anime degenerates

>>168565059
That is embarrassing to everyone involved.

Reminder that /vg/ and /u/ are cursed tomorrow and betting on them in tipping or rigshop is a terrible, terrible idea. If you've already bet on either team in tipping, enjoy not getting points from that match.

>>168565107
It's actually Satan.

>>168565059
>I used to get shit on for being in Neo-/ag/
>meanwhile this is a thing

>>168565009
What does it say from /sp/ that dump boards get to advance and /sp/ doesn't?

Or that /sp/ believes any anime board is a dump board, or in fetus?

>>168565215
/sp is top of the group though and well on track to advance lad

I don't always agree with you guys, but honestly you're alright.

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>>168565215
who said anything about /sp/ not advancing, >we are top of the group right now la

and the only relevant anime board (/a/) is in fetus as they got bottom of their group in a fucking babby

>>168565203
Does that mean she's /a/, /u/ or both?

>>168565059
Yikes!

>>168565185
What curse?

>>168565487
Stadiums

>>168565059
>>168564730

Okay new proposed rule.

The Cup, Friendlies and major invitational tournaments are allowed on the main channel. 4cc counterparts in other sports should also be allowed.

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>>168565352
I don't want to put her on /a/. She's bad luck already.

>>168565510
What you mean?

>>168565568
Raphiel's call of offside made more sense than PES's, though.

>>168565705
Both have "new" stadiums, and both are home teams so will be playing in those stadiums

>>168565568
>/u/ in Autumn: the image: the experience

>>168565849
Welp.
/vg/ is kinda fucked, but /u/ might just pull it.

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>>168565568
It's happening whether you like it or not, Ramen.

>>168565849

Why the quotation marks?

>>168566067
/vg/'s is /fgog/'s VGL stadium

>>168565556
And that's a huge flaw with comfy: other counterparts are at least holding some sort of tie to the cup itself. The vast majority of comfy has absolutely no relation to the 4cc besides the fact that many who watch or host comfy also watch the cup. It's just people playing random shit most of the time, no different from many other streamers. Sometimes people comment on the cup but that's as far as it goes. Keeping it off the main channel but still linking to it is the best solution, because although it has some mild interaction, it really isn't cup related for the most part.

>>168565996
>not having a Kemono Friends rep
It is as though you WANT to stay on the Babbies.

>having a FlipFlappers and a New Game reps
Adding lesbians doesn't make you /u/, you know.

Why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie?

Why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie?

Why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie, why a bitch gotta lie?

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>Being this triggered by people playing video games on the off hours because "muh tenchin horse"

What's wrong with it being on the main stream besides giving you a 'tism schism??

>>168566952
Why should it be on the main stream in the first place?

What does it have to do with the cup?

>>168567064

Why shouldn't it be on the main stream? Why does it need to have anything to do with the cup? Every channel shows "unrelated" shit. Are you one of the people who shit themselves on Twitter when Evo was on ESPN 2?

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>>168567064
why do you care who's streaming what at 11 o clock at night? This is an absurd level of autism

>>168567143
Esports channels usually only show esports.

Guys, we should just stream a live feed of the 4ccspan twitter account, like a Sportscenter-type thing!

>>168567143
ESPN 2 is a commercial tv channel that can't afford to have dead time.

The only argument your lot has raised is "why not" and >>168561182
>And the reason we host on the main channel is because that's how people learn comfy exists.

Meanwhile more cup relevant stuff loses out because some autist prebooked the main channel for some irrelevant shit.

>>168567303
>the cup is an esport
>>>/mlp/

I really really like women

>>168567064
Why not? Stop being so serious m8, remember that not long ago people here were complaining about the lack of stuff happening during the offseason/days between matchdays. Now you complain about the fact that people are streaming, make up your mind /4ccg/.

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>>168567431

>>168567436
When was the last time we had more than two weeks in between a cup/memevitational?

>>168567345
>The only argument your lot has raised is "why not" and >>168561182(Cross-thread)

And the only argument your side has is "waaaah".


>Meanwhile more cup relevant stuff loses out because some autist prebooked the main channel for some irrelevant shit.

Yes, I'm sure we need the /mlp/ test cup hostmoded on the main channel. Or hell, maybe we even need someone streaming a PES match when nobody's awake! Better keep the channel open in case NFR wants to stream /eeee/ vs /whoever the fuck/!

We're missing out on so much good stuff because we're not keeping the channel open.

>>168567431
get the fuck out of here fag, we have a strict female (male) only policy

>>168567431
Aaron pls go practice

>>168567567
>female (male)
Which one?

>>168567206
>>168567436
So your only reason is why not?

So how do you solve cup related stuff not getting shown? Like the PES17 preview cup or the the 4cc F1?

>>168567543
Why does the channel need to be open 24/7?

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I think a good argument against this comfy stream is that it deters people away from off-season PES/4CC related events.
I know from self experience that comfy had me block all notifications from the channel, and now I don't go near it with a 10 foot pole at any time besides cup time. As a result of this, I could be missing out any actual 4CC content such as invitationals (and have done in the past).

I don't hate comfy streamers, I just don't bother tuning into the channel if I know something I'm not interested in is live. But that's the thing, I should be able to click on the channel and see if something 4CC or PES related is on, and not be greeted by something completely off-topic.

>>168567707

People aren't going to just start memevitationals on the same day they have the idea, right? They're going to put a bit more planning and have a known time for it to happen, right? Maybe there should be some kind of schedule thing where people can put their ideas up and let people know when they plan on showing it.

Kind of like the calendar.

>>168567819
So it can play things

May as well stream /a/ discord ERP as well then.

Is it time, brothers?

>>168567386
It should be. Maybe then we would get market for the no-market teams, dead teams revived and more traffic overall, which means more shekels from ads to Hiroshimoot and moving to FIFA.

#BringFlashHome

>>168567869
People plan using the wiki not some shitty calendar that only the inner circlejerk know how to access.

>>168567819
Why shouldn't it be allowed to?

>>168567860
>I know from self experience that comfy had me block all notifications from the channel

A problem that was already fixed.

>But that's the thing, I should be able to click on the channel and see if something 4CC or PES related is on, and not be greeted by something completely off-topic.

In other words, there should be a removal of something people like because you can't handle turning on a stream and seeing something besides a black screen? It's not very fucking hard to tell the difference between something that could be 4cc and something that probably isn't. If it takes you more than a few seconds to differentiate 4cc Football from Final Fantasy, you may need some kind of help.

>>168567860
smugleaf its your mom please come home

>>168568032
>People plan using the wiki not some shitty calendar that only the inner circlejerk know how to access.

Wikis are not very useful for planning, nobody's going to know about your shit unless you tell people about it, and at that point it's just as easy to ask for it to be added to the schedule as it is to be a snot-nosed shitposter.

>>168567929
Soon.

>>168568091
Why shouldn't it isn't a good reason.

So far the only argument raised by your side is that you need to advertise comfy. And if anyone is going to stream actual cup stuff they better make sure someone isn't streaming Prison Architect or some bullshit.

>>168568091
>removal
Nothing would be getting removed though, just moved I guess.

I understand both sides, it's kind of a dick move to deliberately not hostmode someone and shove those people elsewhere.
But again, it does deter a lot of people from even bothering with the off-season channel anymore.

>>168567869
Where is this schedule then?

Where can I find it on the wiki?

>>168568431
You can only find it if you ask a #toplad and they're kind enough to share it with you.

Try to keep up, anon.

>>168568308
Because there's been no credible argument besides some shaky bullshit about lowered viewer counts (because 1300 is a higher number than 1500), and people being shitter shattered at other people liking what they don't like. It ain't even about advertising comfy, it's just a way for people to have some fun during the offseason when otherwise they'd just drift off and the cup would become "out of sight, out of mind". If anything, comfy's a way of advertising the cup; and if you advertise it only on the comfy channel, people come back around to the comfy channel and don't see it, they fuck off anyway.

>>168568424
>But again, it does deter a lot of people from even bothering with the off-season channel anymore

Why would you want to watch a blank screen? Or do you mean the memevitationals, which are oh so well scheduled on the wiki, and you should automatically know whenever one is posted?

>>168568431
I'd suggest adding it to the wiki front page, but then you'd sperg out about everyone advertising for youtube dollars and funding ISIS or whatever the fuck this verbal diarrhea you're coming with is.

Guys this is going to sound nuts, but I really like when GB streams, so I subscribed to his channel and Twitter and I get notified when he streams. I also do this for several streamers that aren't related to the cup.

It's almost like what people want to see shouldn't be dictated by whether they've sponged themselves onto a more visible event, and should be based on how entertaining they are and how much fun you have watching them.

You're never going to get it into the komfy kabal's heads that what they're doing is actually detrimental to the cup, honestly. The only people I've heard even try to say that comfy is "advertising" the cup or "introducing" new people to it are those same 5 or 6 circlejerkers. Everyone else has been here saying that the actual quality of the 'comfy' that gets put on is pretty much garbage, even if they're trying to use the "well, you can always turn it off!" argument. It's pretty easy to see the people that have been trying to defend it that are part of that core group.

>>168568487
The argument is that just because your stream involves cup personalities and just because you named a character Sou and another one Boris it isn't 4chan Cup or anything remotely related to it.

And since it isn't anything to do with the cup it doesn't advertise it at all and even if it did, anyone who came into the stream seeing that it was on is just as likely to come into the Comfy Channel.

The calendar is also not easy to access for people who aren't in your circlejerk and we're having a few times where things that are at least actually related to the cup or the concept of the cup are missing out so someone can stream some completely unrelated stuff.

You can have your fun together on the comfy channel.

>>168568736
>You're never going to get it into the komfy kabal's heads that what they're doing is actually detrimental to the cup
Because it isn't. It's only detrimental to your anal health.

>>168568891
You'd be right except for the fact that it is. The only thing detrimental to my anal health is the MASSIVE pounding /myteam/'s taken over the past couple of years.

Not that you'd know anything about that - I'm talking about the cup, you don't pay attention to that when one of "Your Boys" isn't fucking around on the stream.

>>168568718
>ut then you'd sperg out about everyone advertising for youtube dollars and funding ISIS or whatever the fuck this verbal diarrhea you're coming with is.

I've never once mentioned anything of the sort.

>>168568607
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Invitationals

Well this is easy to find then your calendar. But hey you are happy with Two Scoops getting to stream shit ahead of our first look at PES17 because he got the circlejerk calendar first.

>>168568974
Buddy, you've been ranting incoherently in this thread for the last several weeks. Face it, you're asshurt.

>>168569072
>only one person thinks comfy should stay on the comfy channel.

>>168569072
First time I've posted about it since before Autumn, and that was my 2nd post in this entire shitstorm about it. But I suppose you've got the secret IP list to make that decision on your own, "buddy"

You can still be my buddy, even if I think you're being a fucking baby over this comfy stuff, desu. I'm sure we've still got enough in common considering we're both here shitposting on a Thurday night.

>>168567431
But not his family

Why stop at hostmoding? Just delete the comfy channel altogether.
End the extra 4cc activities too. If it's not PES it's not on air.
If anyone streams anything else, even on a personal channel, they should be banned.

>>168569206
> even if I think you're being a fucking baby over this comfy stuff,

>the one not going "STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE" is the baby

tip jej

>>168569287
B-b-but those are things that I like.
We should only delete things I don't like.

>>168569008
It's more about the time of it being streamed, why would you complain about streams during night/yuro hours, when stuff like 4ccf1 or wrasslin were normally put on a couple of hours before the beginning of the matchday?
If (insert random person here) streams stuff at midnight I couldn't care less.

>>168569287
lol, I agree my man !!

>>168569352
Too bad. You don't get to like things outside of the /4ccg/ mandated like list.

You only get to like /co/'s suffering, /sp/ winning, and /3/'s music. Anything else and you get 20 in the brig.

>>168569287
Nobody is advocating that all but sure pretend that is the case so you pretend that you guys have a point.

Nobody cares that comfy channel exists it just has no more reason to get hosted on the main cup channel than /a/ discord ERP sessions.

>>168569332
>The one throwing out personal insults instead of making a single argument as to WHY uncomfy content should fill up 99% of airtime on the main channel is the adult

Go on, man, a dozen people have been asking you to give us one reason why you SHOULD put comfy on the main channel for a thread and a half. Instead, your responses have been personal attacks and "Nuh uh you tell me why not!". We've made our argument, we're looking for anything from you showing even the slightest capability of defending your opinion.

>>168569462
And the answer was that it's a question for the higher ups. /merit/ will have to explain that decision given that it was their choice to host the comfy channel on the main one anyway.

And the comfy cabal has come into play and is trying to turn things from "stay on your channel" to "you can't stream anything at all, don't like things I don't like".

Guess that's easier than providing a valid reason for it being streamed on the Cup Channel.

>>168567929
ok do it

just the tipping

/m/ draw [r9k] 1-1
/vg/ beat /w/ 2-0
/adv/ draw /fit/ 2-2
/h/ beat /out 2-1
/u/ beat /n/ 3-2
[s4s] beat /asp/ 3-1
/soc/ draw /o/ 1-1
/sp/ beat /vr/ 2-0

>>168569642
Good job deflecting, but let's go back to the original point - why are you defending uncomfy being on the main channel so hard if you don't have any defense for it beyond personal attacks and "Well try to get /merit/ to stop me!!"?

>>168569417
>Nobody cares that comfy channel exists

This is objectively false. There's several people in this thread that hate the very idea of comfy.

>>168569729
Show me one instance where anyone says that the comfy channel should be removed, apart from the false flag you posted that 168569417 was replying to.

Instead of trying to change the goal posts with the "When did you stop hitting your wife?" defense, try to think of a defense, ANY defense, for the original question - what merits are there to 'comfy' being hosted on the main channel? What does the cup BENEFIT from having it there?

>>168569729
If it was not on the main channel nobody would care.

>>168569462
>>168569668
Here's the reason: some people want to stream and some people want to watch it. There doesn't need to be anything more than that.
You don't have a reason other than "but I don't like that."

>>168569718
I'm not deflecting. I said in the previous thread that I see where you are coming from.

>>168569908
They can do that on the comfy channel though.

>>168569462
>The one throwing out personal insults instead of making a single argument as to WHY uncomfy content should fill up 99% of airtime on the main channel is the adult

Hey, never said he wasn't a baby, but by throwing out silly insults yourself you're just pulling the same shit you're mocking them for.

>We've made our argument

Which is basically saying that higher viewer numbers mean a lower viewership and crying that you can't just expect a black screen any time you turn the stream on.

The only legit point there was is the "streaming over PES" thing which has been rectified somewhat by the schedule. It could be easier to see, yes, but then that wouldn't be enough anyway because people would still be shitting themselves about attention whores or whatever.

And honestly there's no difference between random comfy and random comfy, but with 4cc-core player names.

>>168569908
No, no, you're defending people streaming. What I asked - and it's a shame that I have to practically copy paste it because you answered an unrelated question - is "Why should "comfy" content be hosted on the main channel, rather than be featured on the comfy channel on its own?"

>>168569967
Or it could be done how it is right now and you can continue being mad. The only difference is your sodium output.

>>168569967
They can do it on the main channel too.
And they are. Now come up with a reason why they shouldn't other than "I don't like it" because it doesn't affect people who are tuning in for the cup in any way.

>>168569998
>which has been rectified somewhat by the schedule

It hasn't because the calendar is difficult to access if you're not already in the inner circle.

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>There are people arguing for removing comfy but not for removing /mlp/ matches

>>168570074
Because some people want it on the main channel.

>>168570104
The main channel should be cup and cup related things only.

Its the cup channel not a cup and cup personalities channel.

Maybe next time we have invitationals teams like /discord/ and /irc/ should be allowed again. Afterall anyone can just not watch it.

>>168570116
That's why I said somewhat, and that it should be added to the wiki page though free editing would be out of the question because we know that it'd be blitzkreig'd in a heartbeat. That's a fair enough point And even if there was no comfy, it'd be a good idea because of how many invitationals there are nowdays anyway.

>>168570229
It's a cup channel not a cup and cup offshoots channel. F4cc/4CCW/etc should be pushed off as well.

Also, memevitationals are not cups themselves either, and have no place on the stream.

Why not stream FIFA? Both as comfy and in the official matches.

>>168569998
>rectified somewhat by the schedule

Which assumes that anyone planning events is going to go out of their way to consult the 'calendar' before scheduling. Which they shouldn't have to do, and which as many people have pointed out isn't easily available unless you go directly to the cup comfy channel. It's not on the wiki and it's not generally linked during events, and it's not in the OP.

I think there are shades of grey here, but my personal opinion is that comfy should be allowed on the main channel ASSUMING that there's a clear hierarchy of what's hosted. I personally believe that hierarchy should be "Official" events (Official Cups > VGL) >> Memevitationals = 4cc-related other events (Cric, Rugby, Wrasslin, whatever) >> "Comfy" streams.

It's when we get into stuff like what happened to SDA, where he wasn't 'officially'disallowed from using the main stream but the political pressure was on him not to to avoid pissing anyone off, that I have a personal issue.

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Na na na na na
Comfy is getting banned
Na na na na naaaaa

>>168570307
We get that you're trying to argue the extreme position to make the anti-comfy people look bad, but it's really obvious which posts are yours and it makes you look like a pissy babby.

>>168570236
>And even if there was no comfy, it'd be a good idea because of how many invitationals there are nowdays anyway.
That I can agree with.

If there was a an easily viewable calendar and everyone knew who to contact to book it (within a reasonable timeframe of course) and there was an understanding that cup related stuff would get priority I would have no issues with the status quo.

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>>168570410
>Na na na na na

>>168570402

That's fair enough. The thing is, there should be some kind of calendar even besides comfy, because with the number of memevitationals there are now there needs to be a way to keep track of them all. I remember being told there was enough for half of December and all of January but I had no idea which ones were on when.

And yeah, that sounds like a decent hierarchy.

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>there are turboautists in this very thread right now who think their shit opinions and demands are going to even be seen at all, much less listened to and agreed with

>>168570307
F4cc/4CC etc stick to the core concept of the cup which is boards competing against other boards.

>>168570467
So I'm not allowed to have an opinion on it now? If I can be rid of both, why not?

>>168570575
Basically this.
/merit/ gives zero fucks what anyone here thinks.

>>168570604
It's 4cc core characters competing with other 4cc core characters, the boards aren't competing. The boards don't even pick their characters, the streamer or at most the Manager does.

>>168570617
You have the right to have an opinion. You do not have the right to have it respected.

>>168570686
I just don't want to turn on the cup stream and see some pathetic bullshit where a bunch of cup characters are driving around a course ALL WACKY that some guy put together to feel important.

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Stop arguing
Look at Keksandra's footes

>>168570670
We've been discussing this for about 2 hours now actually you fucking /4ccg/ wankpeasan- I mean, good sir.

>>168570801
These feet do not belong on the 4cc channel.

>>168570670
Time to switch cups then.

>>168570794
Still more entertaining than watching some nigger fail at old games and scream "muthafukka" every other word

>>168570873
>>>/mlp/ has their own cup, you should go there. And so should they

>>168570894
Getting hit in the dick is more entertaining than getting a toe cut off, doesn't mean I want to deal with either.

>>168570562
Unfortunately, I doubt anyone's actually going to listen. But the consensus seems to be:

- A clearer, more available calendar, directly hosted on the wiki (There are plenty of mediawiki calendar plugins we could choose from to make this happen). Delegate specific people to control the schedule (preferably from /merit/, honestly I don't even know who controls the cup schedule right now). Include the streaming schedule in the OP moving forward.
- Comfy content being allowed on the core channel, butt clearly of secondary importance - Cup events, invitationals, PES streaming and 4chan-related events always take top billing
- Some kind of vetting system where the biggest autists aren't allowed to use the stream as their personal shitting street - I know that Lear and Boris have personally come out against a couple of the biggest autists in the last year, but people should at least feel more comfortable saying "Wow, this guy shouldn't be on the official channel".

>>168570861
Chat leaks or gtfo.

>>168570989
King Lear: So how would this notice be placed.
Noteperson: White text on a black background, I should think.
Smugleaf: With comic sans
Noteperson: Obviously.

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>>168570989
>Chat leaks or gtfo.
You asked for it.

>>168571483
You'd think I wouldn't have to say "Chat leaks that have anything to do with what we're talking about", but it's /4ccg/.

I'm surrounded by assholes.

>>168571537
It's 4chan, you're always surrounded by assholes.

Even when alone.

GB never should have streamed Dexter's Lab between games, he started all this comfy bullshit.

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>>168571537
Is this any better

>>168571738
Make this an commissioner

>>168571858
Is an commissioner an athlete?

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>>168571891
He is the Fat Controller

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I love you bastards

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Whatever your opinions, comfy's not killing the cup attendances you dumb cunts

>>168567929
Please do

>>168572219
>ponies start winning cups
>cup starts getting reported elsewhere in pony internet
>more horsefuckers start watching

>>168572340
None of those matches have /mlp/ in it and we all know horsefuckers only stick around for /mlp/ matches

>>168572219
>/cm/, /hr/, /po/ and /sci/ in Elites
We sure have gone far.

>five cards in a single game
Makes people wish we switched to FIFA.

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A second sample

-Rothschilds bow to Comfy Cabal
-In contact with aliens
-Possess psychic-like abilities
-Control 4cc Hitbox with an iron but fair fist
-Own castles & banks globally
-Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Comfygrad will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Comfy babies
-All streamers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
-Ancient Indian scriptures tell of a cabal of angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
-They own Comfy Streams around the world
-You likely have comfybots inside you right now
-The Comfy Cabal are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between PES & Germanbro (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Germanbro's first trip to Germany in history literally a few days later to the Comfy bunker in Wilkes land?
-They learned fluent French in under a week
-Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Comfy
-The cabal are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings

>>168572908
Appreciate the quick rundown, thanks anon

>>168572908
>-They learned fluent French in under a week

Now I call bullshit

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>tfw you have blackmail material but you can't use it because it implicates yourself
>but it would throw everything into chaos

everyone take half of one step back

you motherfuckers are all arguing about a channel that gets 30 views on off days and 1500 views on a good day. just enjoy the parts that you like and if you dont like it dont watch it

autism fucking everywhere

>>168573160
welcome to /4ccg/

>>168573119
Bite the bullet and end this joke, man. You'll be remembered as a hero.

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I heard we were cherry picking individual cup matches to try to demonstrate whether the cup was gaining or losing viewers. Anyway, here's my contribution.

Average through 24 matches of Winter 2016 was 1372.8. Average so far in Winter 2017 is 1373.1. The people that say that the cup is dying because of comfy is wrong (unless their argument is that we'd have MORE viewers if it weren't for comfy), and the people that say that comfy is actively adding viewers to the cup are also wrong. Who would have though that both sides of a shitpost argument could be wrong?

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>>168573589
Is that you Professor Steiner?

The numbers don't lie.

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>>168573589
>0.3 viewers increase

>>168573684
The numbers are pretty damn boring when you're not trying to manipulate them to make a point, man. People keep watching the cup. Maybe there could be more, maybe not. But trying to argue one side or the other doesn't make sense if you don't know what's going on.

>>168573827
I wasn't really cherry picking to prove the cup was getting more viewers or something, just that it wasn't really losing viewers like the argument's been made desu

>>168573986
I threw up what I did because I felt like you were trying to show that the cup was GAINING viewers, which it definitely isn't. But it also isn't LOSING them. And none of this is accounting for which big market teams are playing when.

I think what we're both trying to prove is that you can't really make an argument in either direction.

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>>168573589
>comfy has directly caused an observable increase in the number of viewers per match

Comfy haters absolutely BTFO

when comfy is ok: Boris or other host streaming some game the morning of a match day

when it's not: any other time

>>168567303
4cc is not an esport.

>>168574084
Well here's group A first matches then, non-solely-positive result and also almost all muh big markets/cup winners, maybe that's a little more reliable in terms of variables beyond it just being the matches happening at the same relative times in the group stages.

But yes a lot of variables influence cup attendance both within cups and between them, but comfy is probably not one.

>>168574129
>Comfy starts right before Autumn 2016
>Autumn 2015 Average Attendance: 1008.6
>Autumn 2016 Average Attendance: 788.2

Don't try to use my raw data to enable your shitty arguments, cunt.

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>>168574532
Forgot to crop it.

>>168572182

We love you too.

>>168574532
desu this all just makes me want to do a statistical analysis of all cup teams and try to normalize "market size" by attendance accounting for date, opponent, level of competition, etc. Could be interesting - I'm already seeing some surprising numbers just eyeballing it (for instance, /co/ is less popular than you'd think when everything's accounted for).

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>>168572908

>>168574780
Go for it, that's the kind of positive autism we need right now to counter this lazy shitposting kind right now

>>168570989
>Lear and Boris have personally come out against a couple of the biggest autists in the last year

And these are?

>>168574869
The one that comes to mind immediately is Lear banning Pom Pom from streaming permanently.

>>168574780
I did a pretty minor one for VGL (two cups) and it led to some obviously inaccurate results.

/co/ is probably less popular because fetus gets less neutral viewers than babies or elites.

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Have a meem

>>168573119
Are you Hitler ?

>>168574908
>neutral viewers
Stop injecting logic into our shitposting.

>>168575201
i dont get it

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>>168575216
_No

>>168572908
I never knew I was so powerful.

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This is the autumn '13 fetus cup, the first set of qualifiers. 3 years and change on, how do you think of them?

>>168575469
Don't worry, you're not.

When does S4s play

>>168575609
2moro LMOA

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>>168575609
tomorrow at 2:00pm EST or after friend

>>168575541
4 years later most of them will go back to at least the babbies

>>168573684
Is this the beginning of that influx of new fags that journalist was threatening us with a couple of threads ago?

>>168575851
i want that guy to write that article so i can become e-famous and start a patreon for managing a virtual divegrass team

>>168575915
MONEY
MAKING
SCHEME

>>168575395
/merit/ were arguing for 2 hours, Boris appeared and ended it within 5 minutes

>>168575975
Prove it.

>>168575975
I want Boris to bear my children and be my stay-at-home-mom housewife

>>168576001
The fuck do you mean "Prove it" you wank.

>>168575541
Unironically good:
/asp/
/gd/
[s4s]
/vr/
/an/
/o/
/vp/

Mediocre:
/e/
/out/
/wsg/

Shit:
/s/

Fucking dead:
/lgbt/
/3/
/diy/
/ic/

>>168575541
Didn't Tony manage /vp/ in this? What a time that was.

>>168574897
Is that why Pom Pom disappeared?

>>168576095
Give me any evidence that Boris ended any kind of argument in /merit/, at all.

>>168575975
What is the decision then?

>>168576215
Yes, he was being a cunt to everyone so Lear banned him and never unbanned him

>>168576432
He bought me some pompoms. They're actually kinda nice.

>>168575975

Which argument?

>>168576515
He was okay for a while but he was very impressionable because all the shitflinging everyone does by default as a 4chin terrorist made the autist seriously dial it to 11 on everybody

What are pizza that you have enjoyed?

>>168576725
Chicago-style

>>168576725
Big ones.

>>168576725
Only cheese

>>168576725
Pizza Hut
Papa johns
Guido's
Cansanelli's
Dominos
Alfred's

>>168576810
Sounds like an average group of murder-hobos.

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Here have some caddes.

I don't know where this idea got started that I was going to favor the comfy cabal over 4CC related streams. If you give me any warning you want to run a memevetational, or a related event like the F4CC I'm happy to body-check them out of the way.

The reason Pybro is a goddamned idiot is that he didn't stop to think that just maybe letting the guy who handlers the streams, or the commissioner, or maybe anybody at all on the 4CCC and not just random autists on a Mongolian cave painting board who don't control anything that he wants to stream a 4CC related event would be a good idea.

I agree that anything 4CC related should get priority, and would happily schedule it that way, the issue I have is not communicating until the last second and just assuming we're going to shove people out of the way for you with no warning.

It sounds like the plan of action is probably going to be making a wiki calendar, and doing something to making finding it on the wiki front page obvious, for invitationals and approved 'related' events that gets priority over comfy cabalists, but that doesn't change needing to plan and schedule your shit.

I'll shove people out of Pybro's way as needed last second THIS ONE TIME, including my own preshow time (raw game ones are fun games ones amirite)

All that said, the comfy stream isn't going anywhere. People getting mad about a hostmoded channel filling otherwise dead air can literally close a browser tab and stop being the no fun police

>>168577265
Why are male cats always so gay

>>168577265
Commonsense prevails

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>>168568487

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>>168577265
Sounds good.

I never thought I'd see the day this shit would get so popular and have so many contributors that keeping it organized would become a problem.

>>168577380

If you neuter them before they grow up then male cats tend to be pretty laid back and more affectionate than spayed females.

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keeper babby goes in all fields. >mfw WE were the keeper babby team all along :^)

let's settle this

http://www.strawpoll.me/12355946

>>168577265
Thank you for ending this boris

A wiki calendar would be great.

>>168578312
>autists sperging over random games
>a good time
I don't even care about this "debate" but comfy streamers acting like they're god's gift to humanity is easily the worst part of it

>>168578112
How do I vote for "none of the above"

>>168578628
but I thought muzzies fucked goats, not horses

>>168577638
Sauce?

>>168578112
>no "Canada" option

>>168578763
Fuck off, nomo.

>>168578763
wow how topical

>>168576990
So does this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wI38KWqZIZ8

Important poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/12355973

>>168578937
>no B E N I S :DDDD option

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>>168578937

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>>168572182
There is a shark here to see you.

Tipping Day 4
/m/ 1-1 /r9k/
/vg/ 2-2 /w/
/adv/ 2-1 /fit/
/out/ 1-0 /h/
/asp/ 1-2 /s4s/
/u/ 0-1 /n/
/o/ 1-1 /soc/
/vr/ 1-2 /sp/

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>>168579329

Outlook good for [s4s].

>>168579504
More please.

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>>168579571

Who's topping the tipping?

Can we get some madotsuki art in here to start getting /jp/ pumped up for Saturday?

>>168579645
/d/ is at the moment.

>>168579645
Dtroit by 1 over QD

/m/ 2-1 /r9k/
/vg/ 2-1 /w/
/adv/ 3-2 /fit/
/out/ 1-2 /h/
/asp/ 2-0 /s4s/
/u/ 2-1 /n/
/o/ 3-1 /soc/
/vr/ 2-2 /sp/

>>168579645
Not QrV :^)

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>>168579634
An image for ants.

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>>168579985
Just for you anon

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NUMBERS DON'T LIE

>>168580398
Is this average for each of these? Or just certain days?

>>168580398
is that including single eliminations? holy fuck thats stupid.

>>168580493
It includes all the games where attendance is available.

>>168579985
Thanks ants.
Thants.

>>168580398
>Overall attendance was higher before /mlp/ had stars

/mlp/ confirmed for literally killing the cup

>>168580398
>top 3 are both /sp/ wins and /wg/

Durgen was a draw, brother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8VsUn-RMjE

>>168582126
God it's been ages since I've seen this

>>168582185
I don't even know how I got to his channel again, but here I am, digging deeper.

>>168577265
Wow, I'm so used to bullshit non-responses with no plan to back them up from Lear I was actually shocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQUSkCWc_k

;_;7

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>>168582526
>tfw no snake Pokemon gf

>>168579975
You've done it now m8, I'm wining this shit, just you wait

Tip of the (((iceberg)))

/m/ wins, 1-0
/vg/ wins, 2-1
/fit/ wins, 2-1
draw, 1-1
/asp/ wins, 2-0
/u/ wins, 2-0
draw, 1-1
/sp/ wins, 2-1

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Columns are
Team
Attendance when home team (average)
number of matches as the home team
Attendance when away team (average)
number of matches as the away team

Sorry, to lazy to fix this

>>168584804
last column il global average, obviosly

>>168584804
Those are the top ten?
What is /wg/ doing there?

>>168584910
It's clear that those are popular teams (/a/,/sp/,/pol/,/b/,/v/,/mu/,/mlp/) and teams that placed high regularly (/mlp/, /fit/, /u/, /wg/,/mu/). Knockouts generally have a higher attendance. /mlp/ both places high and has dedicated fans, so they are on top

Doesn't matter the actual divide, teams that place highly get a higher attendance by osmosis

>>168584804
Can you do it for group matches only?

>>168561586
>Kekkels and friends comparing themselves to GB
Fucking wew lad. This is some serious delusion.

They need to stop hosting the Cindy channel on the main channel. What is so hard to understand about this?

Who is the /comfiest/ stream?

and why is it Smokey?

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>>168585295
It should be correct.

/mlp/ still the biggest market
Top positions are not surprises.

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>>168585543
Not going to happen, Cindy is my favorite.

>>168587186
Hi Boris

>>168577265
>People getting mad about a hostmoded channel filling otherwise dead air can literally close a browser tab and stop being the no fun police
This is a bullshit argument and you know it. "Streamed content on the main channel should be quality and cup-related" is not being "the no fun police." Admit it: you're addicted to the circlejerk.

>>168587610
What's wrong with circlejerking?

>>168587753
I'll just show myself out. This is a dark time line.

>>168587795
You don't have a counter argument, don't you
What _is_ wrong with circlejerking?

>>168587610
Because ded air is top tier quality?

>>168571698
Was it the PS1 game?

I don't like this brand of comfy shitposting

>Sachiko on the front page

>>168587856
Just because you don't like the counter argument doesn't mean this is no counter argument.

The main channel exists to show the 4CC and content directly related to it in some way. That's why it was created and it's why people subscribe to it.

The argument is: the main channel should not perma-host the comfy channel because the comfy channel is not a source of quality content, is not related to the 4CC in any way, does not serve as a good "advertisement" for the cup, and enables and promotes attention whores by giving them a platform to take advantage of the cup's native audience.

So stop saying there's no argument. It should surprise exactly nobody that Boris is immune to reason and siding with his pet menagerie of circlejerking turboautists. He did the same as commissioner.

>>168587141
Back in the day when /a/ and /sp/ were top of their game they ruled it. I miss those days.

>>168588070
>because the comfy channel is not a source of quality content
nor is the actual cup and we like it the same way

stop this NO QUALITY CONTENT GUISES bullshit already

>>168587856
The fact that it exists. If you want to circlejerk then unironically fuck off to facebook, discord, or irc - oh wait...

>>168588070
Is there someone that force you to watch the confy stream?

>>168587927
Dead air is absolutely higher quality than what you and the krew do, my man.

>>168588123
If you rate mouth breathers playing weeb games on the level of the cup in terms of quality, you are the cancer and you should go.

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>>168588130
>just don't watch it
THERE IT IS! THERE IT IS AGAIN. THE 30-SECOND SPEECH.

>>168588229
>If you rate mouth breathers playing weeb games on the level of the cup in terms of quality
Yes, i do rate mouth breathers playing weeb games on the same level of mouth breathers commentating matches about weeb teams with weeb blenders and weeb music, yes.

Now force me to leave.

>>168588341
Seriously, what is the problem?
It's not like they are taking away time from the cup o cup related stuff

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wait a minute, are people really arguing against the pre-game streams now for no reason other than "i don't like it" or "it's not good enough! leave it dead air!!!"

this makes no goddamn sense

the "don't watch it" argument is usually moot, but you're literally arguing that watching nothing is better. then don't fucking watch it then. it will change nothing for you and the people who like it still get to see.

>>168588137
I can assure you that /mystream/ is comprised of high quality banter and enjoyable content of transportation vehicles of sublime quality

I will stream the cup logo for my next slot for 2 hours, to maintain the high quality people want.

Kasu pls don't ban

>>168588478
>wait a minute, are people really arguing against the pre-game streams
No. Literally nobody is arguing against this.

>>168588478
No you don't get it
If i don't like it, NO ONE SHOULD.

The cup should be tailored to cater to my interests and my interests only. Quality entertainment is a value measured by my word and i get to decide what is and what isn't interesting enough to air before the cup. By the way, i don't even like divegrass. Cancel the fucking cup, it's not entertaining enough anymore. I want a basketball 4CC today instead. Get working, peasants.

>>168588674
Oh fuck off, will you? Nobody minds pre-cup comfy. That's always been a tradition. It's the rest of the shit that is a problem.

>it's another 4ccg thread complains about the 4cc

I swear to god, this place hates the cup more than /ic/ and that /jp/ autist who sent moot an email

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>>168588070
Oh yes, cause the 4cc itself is such quality content, 30 minutes of moving players around the pitch now that's the pinnacle of entertainment

i for one cannot wait for exciting matchups such as /c/ vs /f/, /toy/ vs /e/ or /h/ vs /adv/, i'm sure they'll be barn burners

>people are actually complaining about the quality of content created by users of a Malinese cloth sewing appreciation forum

>>168588812

>A general that spends more time posting shit unrelated to virtual divegrass than discussing the 4CC is suddenly populated by experts on what belongs on the channel

Really makes you think.

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>>168588773

>>168588773
>It's the rest of the shit that is a problem.
What do you mean?

>>168588812
>complaining about nonstop comfy is "complaining about the 4CC"
Really turns the ignition on my cognition.

>>168588845
>4cc itself is such quality content,
It's why we're all here. Maybe you should leave and stop abusing the stream. >>168588229

>>168588936
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the streaming vidya, and I’ve been involved in numerous streams on shitbox, and I have over 300 thoudands confirmed subscribes. I am trained in gorilla streaming and I’m the top streamer in the entire US. You are nothing to me but just another hater. I will criticize you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret circlejer group across the discord and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can make a bad comment about the quality of your streaming in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in shitposting and hating, but I have access to the entire arsenal of pasta and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo

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Can somebody who's been following this closer fill me in on which comfystreamers exactly have these guy's asses so annihilated? It's pretty obvious they have problems with some particular streamers and are just deflecting it into 'muh quality content' to get taken more seriously.

>>168589531
It's just another episode of "4ccg complains about everything".
Don't waster your time here, Boris.

>>168589531
It'd be nice if you could just try and talk about this like a normal person instead of "hurr so anal annihilated" to try and score good boy points with your buddies.

I can't speak for the other people who have criticized the 24/7 host mode of the comfy channel, but I myself haven't framed my argument in relation to any particular streamer. There are some horrible streamers, no doubt, but I'm not trying to ban any individuals from anything. I'm trying to argue that 24/7 hosting is a mistake. Why is that hard for you to understand?

>>168587141
>Top positions are not surprises.

/u/ certainly is one

>>168577265
>sucking off attentionwhores
lmao

>>168589531
Honestly don't think the original guy who was ass blasted is even the one still going on about it.

>>168589531
ban Koala

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This thread

>>168589934
>retarded tripfag defending his circlejerk
what a surprise

go find your own audience somewhere

>>168589874
>the one
You keep trying to make it look like only one person at a time has an issue with the comfy. You're wrong.

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>>168590025
No u :>

>>168590025
>forgetting he's a manager

>>168589782
Yes and no.

Only last year:
-went to final in winter
-same gruop with ponies in summer, and that group had the highest attendance (actually, all groups A-D had higher attendance than E--H)
-arrived to third reich trophy in autumn

2016 really improved their average.

>>168590130
>keeping track of managers

>>168590276
Sorry I assumed I was talking to people who knew their arse from their elbow when it came to the cup and it's channel :>

>>168590328
>/an/
sorry I assumed I was talking to someone even remotely relevant :>

>>168587141
>/biz/ above /vp/, /o/, /m/ and /toy/

>>168590328
Managers aren't the cup. Your not even supposed to mention them on the channel. How new are you?

Here, Boris. Here's the type of guy you're fellating.

>>168589927
I'd happily support this.

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>>168590382
More relevant than your opinions m8

>>168590398
>BIG
>MARKET

>>168590460
>my opinions are more important than yours because I have a tripcode and manage!
>everyone please give me attention
T H A N K Y O U B O R I S

>>168590398
it's the Art effect

I had no strong feelings about the comfy issues at first, but the way the cabal acted (and they are fucking easy to spot) made me support the anti-comfy movement.

>>168590627

WTF I hate comfy now?!

>>168590627
WOW ur just som1 rly bottomBLASTED LOL y cant u just ACCEPT our COMFY for wut it is OMG

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>>168590460

YOU ARE ALL RETARDED

>>168590460
You'd be even more relevant if you could stop getting BTFO by the horsefuckers at every opportunity, you shitter. Why are you even posting with your trip? You're embarrassing >/an/ fans everywhere.