/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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The last thread didn't even hit bump limit, why did you make this one so early?

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>passive-reactivity

please, from soft where?, add some shit in this game that allows for safe aggression

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>>168490514
there was a method of safe aggression back in ds1 and it was called poisestabs
but as you can see majority of playerbase was too shit to handle it so they axed it

I was curious.
I already have a 120 character for pvp(I play him a lot) for my 2nd character i wanted to make a pyromancer would 150 be too high for active pvp? should I keep him 120 as well?

>>168490908
I meant to say SL 140 not SL 150.

>>168490908
Good one mate, I just started a pyro char as well 2 days ago. It seems to be the prevailing opinion that pyro should be 125-130, but i will be making 120 anyway, because who the fuck needs more hp in any way whatsoever.

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>tfw you accidentally make a decent Geralt

>>168491197
I wasn't going 140 for extra hp. I for once wanted a little fashion on my character. it seems 140 can play with 120 characters anyway - so I guess I'll just try it out

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I cant play dark souls 3 online for shit anymore, it used to be fine but now if i have the wifi plugged in the game starts stuttering 20 mins in, no such issues with wifi unplugged, it even does it in the other 2 DS games just not as often, this is driving me crazy.

Doesnt do it in other online games either, just something about dark souls that seems to make the wifi crash and overheat the pc until i close dark souls, i tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling them but nothing, driving me nuts.

>>168491359
Wanna play Gwent?

ded gam

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>>168491864

Reposting because some ass-bang made a new thread before the other one reached bump limit.

>trying DeS without online so I don't get white world tendency
>everything stunlocks me to death, mobs are insurmountable without kiting
>motherfucking tower knight takes off three quarters of my health bar with one attack

It's like an entirely different game without white tendency. I'm getting ass-fucked.

ded general

ded gem

Reminder that 2 updated with all the DLC is by far superior to the shitty gank fest that is sotfs

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>walk past a bunch of beloved DS1 enemies piled in a shit swamp
>an endless stamina BB enemy runs up and spams leaps & grabs until can shove its dick in my mouth
poetic

>>168492552
Man, SotFS Drangleic Castle is such a clusterfuck. They even put the fucking Executioner Chariot horse in there.

>>168493080
Topkek
For what purpose

>>168493119
Too make it that tiny bit less bland by spicing up one of the previously giant, empty spaces. And also to guarantee that players actually get to see and fight the horse, as opposed to just cheesing the boss fight.

>>168492552
SotFS Iron Keep may actually be the worst designed area in a Souls game.

Should I get a ps4 JUST TO PLAY BB?????

>>168494000
Might as well grab Nioh too

>>168494000
If you have a lot of disposable income and optimism that it may get more good exclusives in the future, sure.

Do I even need to bother going fully offline (net totally disconnected) when doing CE stuff or is just not signing into the game at the main menu fine?

>>168494062
W-what is Nioh...

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>tfw no non-shitty version of lothric footman armor for the player to wear

>>168490237
Best way to troll in PvP? I just want to be a dick to everyone

>>168494125
Weeb version of Souls

>>168494117
Just having steam in offline mode should be enough if you want to be extra safe. It might not actually make any difference compared to just having the game in offline mode though.

>>168494168
dont emote, interrupt theirs if you can, use something meta, chug, point down

>>168494225
I figured as much.

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>>168493632

>necromancer

Nah.

>A Gray Giant who has existed since the Archdragon was found. The Giant used to be a judicator, working under the Gods.

Is there a recommended SL guide for DS1?

What should I +10 next? Already did estoc, washing pole,and profaned greatsword

stats are 30/30/10/10

huh, item swap doesn't auto fill the correct fields anymore?

>>168494174
Souls is the weeb version of souls, The similiarity between souls and nioh is that they both use stamina and you can roll. Similiarity ends there, if it wasnt riding the 'soulslike' hype no one would play it because apart from the fact that its *new* it has nothing going for it.

What's a good viable PvE/PvP weapon for a pyromancer build?

Would I be wasting too much points if I just put my STR and DEX up to 20 and 18 respectively so I could then use a Black Knight Sword?

>>168494376
Doesn't that mean he basically has to be Lloyd? Like, who else would this be?

>>168494807
Na, that chick with the broken egg is Lloyd dumbass, follow the lore you vaati wannabee

SL20 deprived
21 vig
15 end
12 str
12 dex

I have the FAP +2, life ring +3, havels +2, hunters ring and chloranthy +2

What weapon would you recommend for high wall invades? I can also get any resins, My brother can trade me them.

>>168494807
>>168494870

The Giant is clearly Velka.

>>168490771
The thing is that in order to poisestab, you have to wait for the enemy to swing, hit you as you tank the hit and bs them. That's not very aggressive and promotes passivity from the other party

>>168494883
I recommend you gas yourself for being a twink faggot

>>168495293
but when you have enough poise, you can just circle for backstabs and be safe in the knowledge that any attempt to stop you will end in a backstab mostly because any attempt to do anything in DaS1 ends in a backstab :^)

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>>168495384

>>168495293
you can close to someone, tank his hit and get a backstab in
that was a universal way to deal with most reactive playstyles in ds1
honestly, only dwgr cb and spears were an exception

>>168494807
>Grey
>judicator
>lloyd means grey
>The head bishop of the Way of White is the
guardian of law and caste (according to white seance ring)
If it's not Lloyd, Fromsoft is basically fucking with us

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>>168494926
Please make this true

>Giant miniboss drops "Soul of Velka"
>"Soul of Velka,"
>"One of the twisted souls, steeped in strength."
>"Use to acquire many souls, or transpose to extract its true strength."
>"Velka was a giant and a goddess of Sin"

>Bring soul to Lud
>"Velka's Arms"
>"Velka crushes sinners with her arms"

>mfw fucked over my life and lost my family for a pair of hulk gloves

>>168493632
>WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, SON

>>168494163
This pisses me off so much. The armor of those foot soldiers on the bridge to Lorian was way too stylish to be wasted on NPCs.

>still no Silver Knight Spear

Why?

>>168494163
>>168496248
>>168496396
>implying you can EVER be as cool as the npc's
first souls game?

>>168496429

But we had SKS back in the first Dark Souls.

I just don't understand why the spears aren't available as weapons in DaS 3.

>>168495873
It's the new character introduced in this DLC alongside Gwyns new youngest daughter, Bigbrother Floyd, no relation to Lloyd.

about to try a magic build for the first time in 3 what am I in for?

>>168496493
Don't forget the Zelka, goddess of virtue, who will no doubt play a super important role in TRC.

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>>168496507
3 hours of playing as a knight before you actually cast spells for damage
>>168496493
kek

>>168496594

nevermind i'm just gonna play a knight

>>168496591
Boyd the Fray Giant and Melka, Goddess of Tin

>>168496429
Seemed like the player could access a version of the armor of nearly everything that walked the earth in DaS2.

>>168496938
>no lightning unzip attacks with blacksteel
>no giant hammer from the green dudes in harvest valley

>>168495873
FROM don't develop with the english language in mind. Subtle wordplay like that is highly unlikely to actually be a thing.

>>168496938
Even the crappy Prowling Magus that shows up two times in the entire game dropped it's helmet. The only cool thing you couldn't get was the Ironclad's hammer.

>>168496648
you will be shocked at how bad you steamroll things

straightswords demolish everything

>>168494000

Sure.

You'll probably get way more than $300 worth of entertainment out of BB alone.

>>168497253
Doubt it. They use lots of welsh names, like Gwyn, Ciaran and Gough. Come to think of it, all of these are associated with color

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>>168498243

>Gough

Best NPC.

>>168495873
He also wears something that highly resembles monk robes.
And his power is certainly astonishing as he can raise an entire ghost army which would go nicely with the fact that he's supposed to be related to Gwyn.

>>168498342
Second. I wish they'd bring his armor and bow back. Made a Gough Build w/Large Club. One of my favorites from DaS1

>>168498506
I always wanted that bear skins outfit.

>>168498506

I love how the Boar helmet went well with his chest piece and Havels for legs and hands.

>>168498342
DS1/3 giants are some of the coolest characters in the game.
Gough is the single coolest DS1 npc, blacksmith giant and sniper giants are friendly and helpful and Yhorm may be a gimmick boss but he also has some of the hypest moments in the game if you bring Siegward to him.

>>168498579
Presumably Yhorm was also a pretty cool guy at some point

>>168498506
We already have millwood greatbow though which outclasses everything about gough's bow and nicely fits str builds.

>>168498636
He is.
He knows everyone in his hometown hated him behind his back but he still defended their city and eventually went and linked the fire for their sake.

Giants are too pure for this world.

Are sorcery focused builds viable at all in ds3?
I havent played in ages
last thing I remember was soul spears taking 2 slots each

>>168498579
Isn't Gough a god, not a giant?

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Dude! Let me in! I'm a fairy! Don't you believe in fairies?

>>168498636
>cool civilizations get shitty kings who lead them to ruin (New Londo)
>shitty civilization got a GOAT king who basically shielded them as a lone vanguard because he was THAT strong and kind

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So thinking of going 27/40/45 str/dex/faith with darkmoon blade and sacred oath. Are any of the other miracles worth using? Mainly pve but I dabble in pvp occasionally.

>>168498763
>>168498693
He even gave his weapons to his pal and the humans

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So \v\ introduced me to this genre. I dont get the hype as a new player. Im dying every three minutes or so, getting frustrated... Anyway to reduce difficulty currently trying to find it in options.

>>168498738
>A helm crafted especially for the honorable Hawkeye Gough, only the eye holes were packed with tree resin by those who dismissed Gough as a brutish giant.

He was a giant and fell victim to the xenophobia towards the giants that is presented everywhere in souls games.

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Post fashion, faggots.

>>168498719
define viable

if you mean: Can it do enough damage to be a threat? then yes

if you mean: Can hit anyone who have located their dodge button and has a semi stable connection?

then no

>>168498946
Sunlight Spear?
Lightning Stake?

>>168498983
You first

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>>168498972
Your bait is too obvious lad.

>get to flamelurker
>each blow with my blessed mace does 100 damage max
>he slices off two thirds of my health bar with any attack
>hitting him requires being so close that his body burns me for a quarter of my health bar
>eventually get a decent rhythm going, he's about two thirds of the way dead
>starts pouncing
>the frame rate tanks so hard that my rolls aren't coming out in time
>you died xD

And then my PS3 went back into the attic. Are there still hipsters who claim that DeS was the best in the series, or have we all grown out of that phase?

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>>168498983
Nothing is more fashionable than a dragon

Is there a way to get Pale Shade set and still achieve the Lord of Hollows ending ?

>>168499037
Seems you need to git gud.

What are some good Str Weapon?

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>>168499037
sounds like you need to get your crutch in 1-1

>>168499076
Have a look on wikis for the quest line, but it only involves angering yuria right? Couldn't you piss her off, kill the invaders then perhaps request absolution? Though i'm just guessing here
Or just do Lord of hollows first because you have to take 5 levels to do it, then have less quests to follow for NG+?

>>168499210
Dragonslayer Greataxe
Yhorms Great Machete

>>168499210

Fume ultra greatsword.

>>168498983
2kat
lmao
2KAT!!

>>168499210
yhorms
pickaxe
broadsword
millwood axe

>>168499248
I'll take a look. And yeah, I could get it in NG+, but I was wondering if I can do both in NG.

>>168494883
>want to bash newfags instead of fighting the big bois
>didn't even had the decency of getting the rings by himself

>having two invaders run after you through all the way from Halfway Forest bonfire to Farron Keep Perimeter while your world is seeded
>didn't bother fighting them, just ran and lit all three flames for the big stone door thing
>one died to the big treetrunk wielding dudes in the swamp with the souls and shit coming out
>other dies to a bluebro
Hosting and not even giving a shit about invaders is such a good feel.

>Been farming Silver knights for the past 4 hours
>Only 12 concord proofs

I'm about to fucking use CE for the first time since DaS1, please talk me out of it

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>>168496485
>DaS1 had no cape physics
>2 had fuck all
>3 has no weapons

>>168500147
Just make a slow paced NG+ lore run with your dorkmoon badge permanently on.

>>168500169
DaS2 had the best sets of weapons

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>>168499395

Is the dark sword still strong or is it shit post-nerf?

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>>168500147
I just got my Darkmoon Blade miracle today. Here's a tip, do a couple of runs and see what kind of drops you get. If you get concords/lots of items/armour then keep going. If not then warp to the bonfire rather than walk there.

The reason is because the loading screen changes your item discovery. If you've rnged pokemon you'll understand what I mean by a different seed. Basically think of your item drops as being a long number line with the drops random in amount and what you get. Loading screens will randomise that order and type of drops so you could have a much better drop rate.

Keep resetting till you reach a good seed.

>>168500568
Use ur FAV WEAPOn

>>168500346
Are there any silly comics like this for Dark Souls 3?

>>168500568
it's as shit as it was pre-nerf. if you only want to skillfully r1r1 combo everything to death, it's the best weapon

>>168500295
Also the best fashion to be honest.

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Creepy fellow
>>168500682
True, everything fits together with a lot of things not just its own set. But it's mostly because everything is equally bland. And then there's ds3, where things don't even fit with their own set

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>>168500658
this is more dsg related

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remind me how ds2 isn't a king's field game

>>168500682
I miss the Heide Iron Mask, went real well with Alva's

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Is there a DS3 roll for build image?

>>168500917
I love these kind of pics, denks anon

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>>168500658
Hopefully this will be relevant after TRC

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>>168501142

>>168501156
>no pardoner set
>no wanderer set

Feels fucking bad

>>168501195
thanks anon

>>168501195
>tfw you already filled your 10 character slots

why is life so unfair?

>>168501329
family share or back up saves

>>168500917
Kek, so accurate.

Prisoner's chain worth it?

>>168501329
http://speedsouls.com/SpeedSouls_-_Save_Organizer

>>168501472
depends on your level and fashion

how does poise even work on this game heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp im going to kill myself

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>>168498579
>DS1/3 giants are some of the coolest characters in the game.
You mean just giants, right?
Because they retconned all giants to have anuses on their faces, even updated the DaS1 models to have one.

Hello /dsg/, have you seen Friede anywhere? I asked her to bring me my flail a while ago but she hasn't brought it yet.

>>168501852
If you're doing an HA attack it determines what you can and can't tank
If you're not doing an HA attack it does nothing

>>168498738
Honorary god
He's not the same species as the gods, but he was granted a fragment of gwyn's soul

>>168501924
MAH FLEYEL

FRIEEEDDEEE

BRING ME MAH FLEEEYYYEEL

>>168501852
>this game
I assume DS3 so, poise in this game is purely hyperamor. It activates when you swing a certain class of weapon (mostly ultras with some exceptions) and it determines if you get staggered by incoming attack or not.

>>168501852
You have shit little dick weapon, like a scimmy - poise wont work.
You have a medium-sized dick weapon, like a mace or a gaysword - poise will help you to hyperarmour through a larger set of weapons.
You have a big dick weapon, like a greataxe or an UGS - poise will help you to tank other greatweapons or ingore swings from multiple smaller weapons.
You have a greathammer - you don't need poise, just hyperarmour through things lmao.

>>168501863
Yhorm has a normal face, though. It's very visible in the cutscene with him and Siegward.

>>168501924
Hey guys is that faggot that got cucked by a barefoot hollow hahahah let's laugh at him

Could not invade
Failed to join session

what is this bullshit

>>168502081
Half-giant :^)

>>168502132
I banned you

>>168501863
Is he ass-faced? Can't really tell.

>>168502030
>>168502126
Please stop making fun of me, I just want Friede to bring me my flail

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I forgot how silly mirror dude looks when he runs for the stab. Also, ds2 might be a shit souls game, but it has some pretty satisfying moments

>>168501863
So the height of Giant civilization was just before Dark Souls 2 right?

Because in 3 they went back to being bumbling retards.

Also,why does Yhorm have a face?

>>168502220
I think you need glasses

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>>168502081
"Giant" is probably just a title. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to add a title that's simply the name of the race you belong to. That'd be like Maldron the Human or some shit.
I mean, look at Wolnir, he was very obviously a human, but he was King Kong-tier at his prime.
Same with Vendrick, Sully, Abyss Watchers and everyone else. Drinking that soul juice just makes anyone extra hueg, proportionally to the amount of power one has/used to have. The player character stays small for gameplay reasons.

>>168502224
Dude, she's been literally in the other room this whole time. I think she was ignoring you.

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>>168502310
>they will never implement a system where you character gets larger the higher SL you have

>>168502310
Sully isn't human, he was born in the Painted World and shares several traits with some of the creatures living there

>>168502410
>twinks become even more optimal because high level characters literally can't swing low enough

>>168502126

The whole painting was full of retards

Friede just had to cosplay as Priscilla and they all worship her

>>168502523
Vilhelm didn't look like a retard.

>>168502410
>>168502493
>The meta will consists of midgets swinging zweihänders at each other

>>168502523
*couple of knights and the fat beta deviantartist
most of the corvians are disillusioned
>>168502574
villelm isn't of the painted world, he's been with her since londor. he's in on the fraud

>>168502410
>no katamari + kirby style souls game where you play as Aldrich and consume things
>with Sully instead of the King
To be fair, they could've introduced some kind of system that changes the player model slightly depending on their stats, kinda like Fable.
>>168502486
Sulyvahn is an enigma, I still don't understand what's going on with him. Like, is he a parasitic tree, granted there was cut dialogue from that tree woman near where you find his ice sorcery? Why statues of Lothric at lothric caste depict him with propaned sword and his bracelets? Is that how he managed to infiltrate and fuck shit up? Or perhaps...

>>168501863
No, i mean DS1/3 giants. I don't count ugly wow-esque abominations with completely different body proportions and devoid of any personality of their own among them.

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>>168502795
But all giants are DaS2 giants now. :^)
Don't forget to check out Earthen Peak in the upcoming DLC!

so, before this wall was broken into, what purpose did this room serve?
>>168502751
>dex makes you more toned
>str makes you more buff
>int makes your head bigger
>99 int "2 intelligant too used weapons" memes

>>168502675
Man, I really hope we get to explore more of his backstory in TRC.

>>168502574
Vilhelm is one of those waifu-fag knights, you know the type.

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>>168502876
herpaderp
>>168502923
>expecting from to tie up loose ends

If Friede was a Londor sister why did she try to link the fire?

>>168503014
She tried to ursurp it more likely

>>168503014
This >>168503041

Another question, why the fuck was she inside that painting? Looks like a big waste of time to me.

So many new spoilers about what the final boss might be?
Also did myiazaki asspull the whole thing on gwynn gifting city to furgitive pygmy or was it already mentioned somewhere before?

>>168503281
>Also did myiazaki asspull the whole thing
Yes anon, it has been 3 fucking games, he is always asspulling things then leaving them vague when they get cornered. Why can't you realise it?

>final boss of the DLC is literally going to be the final Souls boss

Manus, Ivory King, and Friede were all fucking great. They'd better not get this wrong.

>>168503243
>why the fuck was she inside that painting?

Probably got ultra butthurt after failing to ursurp the flame, fled into the painting and chose to embrais the rott

>>168503281
Is it hard to believe that Gwyn could have a lot of children? Not unusual for a god king

>>168503243
She likes the bird cock

>>168503243
>After renouncing everything, Friede discovered a people that she wished to protect, and assumed the precise form that they yearned for
From her set.

>>168503390
honestly you could logically come up with many things that should happen in the future in DS universe. Like the cycle thing was already obvious in ds1. What are some other times myiahacky asspulled something?

>>168503497
Thanks, didn't checked her set.

DLC entrance is the weird cursed-looking statue in the courtyard above the Archives, just before the trio. Gael will be there as well to lead you into the DLC.

After completing both DLCs, a new final boss will appear after you kill SoC.

>>168502871
>But all giants are DaS2 giants now.

No, they are not. Gough had eyes and they were gouged out, Yhorm is a giant too and has face, and none of the DS3 giants even remotely resemble the profile of ugly DS2 ones nor do they produce the same sounds or use the same weapons.

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>>168495892

Dark Souls 3 is too hard for me because everything keeps R1ing my ass and I never get an opening. Hit detection is weird and somehow poise applies on monsters but not on my character.

/blog

What the fuck do the emblems mean in arena?

>>168503893
total wins accumulated, not counting losses at all

in order: none, iron, silver, gold, darksign

>>168503774
Im pretty sure DS2 are completely different breed of giants from these found in londor for example.

>>168503964
Wrong, you can derank

>>168503879
But poise is back, anon. Use a real armor and you'll notice.

Speaking of twitchy r1-spamming enemies, those fucking Ghrus with spear and shield are the worst. What the fuck, they make like 7 consecutive swings all the time.

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>>168503742
>Aldia is the new secret boss
>You have to let him kill you so he can become a 100% complete super god
>Burns himself and makes the age of the flame last for at least millions of years

So ps+ required for online?

>>168503879

Blocking with a shield is useful against most flailing enemies(and dogs). They get stunned when they hit your shield, which gives you a free hit or more.


Poise applies on your character if you attack with hammers, greatswords or ultras.

If I summon Yuria for the last boss and she dies, do I still get the Usurp of the flame ending?

>>168504120 y

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>>168504091
>>Aldia is the new secret boss
>he has achieved Perfect Cell status over the span of all the cycles since DS2
PLEASE MIYAZAKI, I KNOW YOU HATE DS2 BUT JUST PLEASE GIVE ME THIS.

>>168504120
I'm playing without right now

>>168503774
>Gough had eyes and they were gouged out
im 99% sure that's an asspull.

Fight club where?

>>168503774
Gough had the eyeholes in his helmet covered with tree resin and he was dumb enough to think he's blind.

>>168504145
Yes, but you won't get her sword and armor set.

Is there a set of armor that resembles Berserker Armor Guts in this game? I feel like Outrider is too light.

So, the 3rd sister of the Sable Church is going to be in the DLC, right?

I hope she's not the boss of the whole thing, though.

>>168495873
From has been fucking with us for years, so it's nothing really new.

>>168504580
Nah. She appears in the lord of hollows ending so she can't die before then.

>>168504280
Look at blood stemming from the eyeholes of his helmet.

>idiots constantly shitting on alpha god Gywn and linking the first flame
>hippie retards think 'just let nature take it's course bro!"

Enjoy your eternal age of oblivion, douchenozzles

>>168504580
>I hope she's not the boss of the whole thing, though.

Apparently only Elfriede went rogue.

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>>168504580
either she's one of them or Yuria is hiding a miracle from us

>>168504717
That's the resin the giant racists put in there

>>168504653
If she dies before then it cancels out the lord of hollows ending.
How about this?

>>168504808
Miyazaki said the dlc won't affect the base games endings.

>>168504720
Yeah a lot of people have this "f-fuck the gods" mentality, when humanity actually thrives in the age of fire.
Linking it is always the best ending, expect maybe in 3.

>there are still people who don't kill Kaathe, Yuria and Yoel on sight

>>168501195
Rolling.

>>168504793
A much more logical interpretation of the whole resin thing is that it badly damaged his eyesight if not outright popping his eyes out.
Resins in soulsverse ain't the safest thing to touch.

>>168504954
Or maybe Giants are just fucking retards

>Soul of Cinder is resistant to fire
>Vestigies still rape him
I feel like the only boss with real defense was the old demon king

>>168501195
Roll Out

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>>168505056
>tfw have a pyromancer twink
>will be forced to deal with demon prince who is most likely resistant to both fire and poison

>>168504902
I dunno. Look at the way of white. They treat humans pretty badly.

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>>168503774
>>168503972
>and none of the DS3 giants even remotely resemble the profile of ugly DS2 ones
Except you're wrong and didn't even look at the picture. DaS1 giants, if you remove their masks, have large chins, small forehead with eyes positioned quite high, and an actual facial features like noses and mouths. And IIRC their face texture was completely flat.
DaS3 giants, which area clrearly modeled after DaS1 ones like in sen, have no chin and facial features save for an actually 3D modeled hole in the middle of their face.
I mean, disliking DaS2 is more than justified, but screaming LALALA NOT LISTENING DIFFERENT RACE OF GIANTS is just silly, especially if we take into consideration that we encounter Drang Knights - remnants of Vendrick's invasion gone rogue - at Anor Londo, and the fact that we have a giant tree right at firelink, meaning that the supposedly different race of giants from allegedly a completely different country is also somehow present here, except only in a form of a single tree. Yes, you could make an argument that its just FROM being lazy and it's there for gameplay reasons but I firmly believe that my point of view makes a whole lot more sense.
I would be more than eager to discard everything I've just said if Zullie appeared and finally took off the masks to stop this retarded argument from ever happening, but until then I'll stand my ground.

>>168505121
Demon King is weak against poison/toxic.

>>168505121
>if only there was some kind of dark pyromancy
>or even a good raw straight sword

>>168505129
But they are humans too.

>humans treating other humans like

who woulda thunk

>>168505121
black fire orb

>>168501195
Rolling

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>>168504954
>tfw someone puts gold pine resin in your helmet

>>168505221
>Way of White are the followers of Great Lord Gwyn, and seek to kindle bonfires in order to sustain the power of the gods.

It's more like humans treating humans badly under the servitude of the gods.

>>168505121
Dark pyromancies
Or any kind of spell because you're an onmicaster

>>168505153
I always just assumed that the asshole face giants are just the hollow version of them

>>168504850
Which means nothing that happens in the DLC can contradict the base game endings. So, Lilliane is either completely unkillable or won't be physically appearing.

>>168505153
I don´t hate ds2, it´s my favorite ds. I just meant that ds1 giants are servants of the gods while the ones in 2 may be some that fucked off from londor and made their own country

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>implying it wasn't just a tree resin
>implying Gough is not a fucking dumbass

>>168505153
DS1/3 have:
>different body proportions
>different animations
>different sounds
>different weapons and combat moves
>actual ability to talk
On top of that both named giants in DS1/3 canonically have faces and Ringed City adds the third one.

The only thing some DS3 and 2 giants have in common is asshole face, that's literally it, and it's also covered to not let us clearly see it. 95% of their overall design is completely different as well as their role in story.

>>168505364
Right. And you were able to kill even Dusk after beating Manus so I doubt they'd include her only to make her unkillable.

>>168493632
How does necromancy work in souls verse?

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Have you ever made any souls-related OC?

>>168505284
So? Hyumans will always have an excuse to treat each other badly

>>168505129
No, they treat undead pretty badly. Undead are abominations that put entire cities at risk by going hollow and devouring souls.

We don't know how they treat other humans, except when purging heretics.

Where's the fool who spammed the ancient wyvern greatshield stats? Where's your 'pillar of the community' now? Too busy with nioh and for honor to even spend 15 minutes writing down the weapon info.

>>168505445
Nobody knows, because the series didn't bother to explain it.

>>168505526
They have to move on otherwise no twitch or youtube shekles.

>>168505153
>Drang Knights - remnants of Vendrick's invasion gone rogue
drang knights are shitty mercenaries and also the last remnants of drangleic in the entire setting, they are not vendrick's forces and vendrick himself is openly mocked by ds3

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I am the edgiest motherfucker in this whole damn thread.

>>168505710
Vendrick openly mocked himself in DaS2. DaS3 is just quoting him.

>>168505710
>and vendrick himself is openly mocked by ds3

I'm still butthurt about this. Based Vendrick did nothing wrong, expect falling for 'Shandra

>>168505765
level up some luck and change the set

>>168493621
I just got the SOTFS edition recently and was dreading iron keep because people here keep bitching about it.
It's in no way harder. At all. Do you guys just fucking suck at souls or something?

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>>168505454
plenty

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>>168490237
Is this the location of the Ringed City during DaS2?

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>>168505961

>>168505986
>dual rapiers
for what purpose?

>>168505361
That's a possibility and would explain a handful of things, especially considering that turning into trees doesn't seem to be exclusive to giants only, but the argument was whether DaS2 giants are canon and whether they're the same race as DaS1/3, and I think there is more than enough proof to claim that the answer to both of those is "yes".
>>168505421
>different body proportions
Only in regards to giant warriors, not Last Giant/Giant Lord and that's because DaS2 is a rushed as fuck retarded games and giants were supposed to even have stupid horned demon faces at first.
>different animations
>different sounds
Well, yes, and same can be said regarding DaS1. DaS3 is a different, new game, after all.
>different weapons and combat moves
Hardly so, the ones you fight at the Cathedral do almost the same shit as the Last Giant - stomp and swipe with their hands.
>actual ability to talk
They were aligned with a different faction and 100% hostile, because you were fighting on the side of a kingdom that kidnapped and performed vile experiments on their kin.
>On top of that both named giants in DS1
A shitload of things changed since then. Lots of stuff has been soft-retconned, like the bullshit with Ornstein.
>3
"the Giant" is either a title or Yhorm is simply un-hollowed due to being LoC.
>The only thing some DS3 and 2 giants have in common is asshole face, that's literally it
That's kind of important though, isn't it? Why'd the give a completely different race the same features, even though it's not so easy to spot? They clearly tried to tie all the giants stuff together to fix certain problems DaS2 has created with their different designs.

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>>168505454

>>168505986
DaS2 UI was the best

>>168506058
It kills things faster than using only 1 rapier.

>>168505921
But Luck isn't DARK. Everything has to be DARK, or else it can't be the DARKEST edge. Even the 40 Faith is for DARK defense (though the character planner is bugged and makes it look lower when DARK Stoneplate is equipped).

Drangleic is a kingdom that fell to DARK, so it has to be represented here. It's black and has a cape and is so DARK.

I'm kind of restricted in my options, actually. The base game doesn't have a whole lot of naturally dark stuff outside infusions.

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>>168506058

>>168506127
did you try 2handing it? less stamina consumption, you can skillfully combo your r1r1's even more

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>>168506108
Gwyndolin has nice lips.

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>>168505710
>they are not vendrick's forces
>Llewellyn set
>Quality equipment that is both light and strong. Crafted by the castle's resident master smith Llewellyn, and supplied only to a selected few.
>basically drangleics spetznaz
>not vendrick's forces

>>168506126
Worst, you mean.
>introduced grid-based menu with no actual way to manually re-arrange things
>forcefully moved the camera each time you opened the menu
>had ugly frames around HP/stamina bars making it harder to judge whether or not you're out of them

>>168505710
>openly mocked by ds3
Wait what was said about him?

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>>168506242
>implications

>>168505986
That would be kinda cool but I doubt that, it was around since gwynn became god, because he gifted the city to pygmies

Is Profaned Greatsword considered overpowered?

>>168506259
how about you quote the ds3 description instead of your fangame

>>168505765
>no literal dark edge
>no dark black blade
>no dark mask
>no darkmoon talisman
>no onyx greatsword
could do better

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Any ps4 bros ITT who want to help me with Friede?

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>>168506429
Git Gud

>>168506226
But then I lose my right hand parry, I'll try it on the next boss.

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>>168505454
Of coursh.
Someone also made this after the image I posted during the "draw your character in MSpaint" challenge back in DaS2 days, as well as a couple of other pictures with the pajamas archdrake priest. They're cute

>>168506429
>PS4
I'm sorry senpai

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>>168506069
>"the Giant" is either a title or Yhorm is simply un-hollowed due to being LoC.
>un-hollowing changes your face
The lengths DS2 faggots will go to justify the shitty lore of their game is pretty hilarious.

>invade in a gank
>fuck
>use the fap ring infinite stamina trick to run for days
>fuckbois are trying to catch up with me with their washing poles
>end up all the way in Anal Rodeo
>they clear out the whole of it while looking for me, I'm just chilling out in a corner
>they fuck off to gank some more in Irithyll
>take out my bow
>can't see anyone because I'm so far away in rodeo
>shoot arrow at one of the narrow bridges
>explodes and blasts one of the phantoms into the abyss
>one of the other phantoms finally comes to find me and corners me on the elevator
>pokes me to death
>points me down 3 times

I wish I BC out instead of dying, but it was still hugely entertaining fucking around in their world for an hour.

What's some better ways to fuck with gankers? Bow is okay if other invaders aren't going full-retard and killing me instead.

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>>168506226

>>168506479
pretty sure you can parry with 2hl2. not sure how the frames compare though. On a similar note, I'm checking out dual parrying daggers. the damage isn't great but they feel a lot like sai

>>168506542
The kneejerk reaction to anything DS2 related is even more hilarious

>>168506542
The giants are typically nice, but when they hollow they become real butt heads.

>>168506398
How about you revisit Earthen Peak™ in the upcoming DLC The Ringed City™ for Dark Souls III™?
Memes aside, DUDE CYCLES LMAO. Just look at the Xanthous crown description.

>>168506582
I made a table that allows people to walk through fogwall into bosses and kill most of them in 2 hits.

The catch is that I removed ways that allow you to damage them, but that's only true if no seed is in play.
I'll release it soon for kicks

>>168506642
oh yes, i will revisit it in the literal garbage dump of the world where it belongs to, kek
same thing as with drang set being found in a pile of giant's shit

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>>168506639
Carlos, for god's sake

For early to mid game is crystal infusion good on an int build?

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>>168500917
>[STAGGERS]
kekked

How much END is a good idea on a sorc/pokey melee hybrid? I've left it alone for now, but I'm still at SL15 for fear of fucking up my build. Chillin at the settlement

>>168506398
>shield of want
>drang set
>drang spears
>drang hammers
>nashandra portrait
>caitha, goddess of tears
>Alva
>children of dark
>dark scaling with int+fth
>pyromancy scaling with int+fth
>Pilgrims of Dark
>angels in the dark
>abyss being a distortion of dark
>dark and abyss being separate things

Dark Souls 2 happened. It's canon. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you'll be ready for The Ringed City.

>>168506542
>un-hollowing changes your face
Yes? Hollowing, sin and being exposed to other various energies can also turn you into a goat, a slug, a cursed spider dog, make black goo monsters spawn out of the darksign on your back and turn you into a flying half-tree half-insect, among other things.
Radical mutations in souls universe are not unheard of.

>>168506383
no but it's top tier among ugs

>>168506878
It happened, of course. It was just completely irrelevant and any parts of it not mentioned by DS3 might as well not exist at all.

>>168506582
If the world is seeded, luring them to a pile of enemy corpses and popping off Dead Again. Nobody ever sees it coming.

>>168506867
25-30

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>>168506731
>oh yes, i will revisit it in the literal garbage dump of the world where it belongs to, kek
Yeah, with DaS1 firelink being buried right under it in the middle of a toxic shit swamp with two literal Demons of Feces.

>>168494883
>Invades lowbies while twinking
>Gets his gear from someone else
>Asks how to optimize his faggotry

Play with a dildo in your ass. It's the only way to be more of a faggot than you already are

>>168506891
Yet another piece of fanfiction from DS2 fan. Keep it coming, boy.

>>168506984
Thanks babe. Im trying to keep my strength and dex very low - alternating between a Raw Rapier and a Fire Mail Breaker. Pretty fun playthrough with sorceries mixed in.

To add to that, is there any decent shield in the game that can be wielded with 7 str?

>>168507036
>another piece of fanfiction from DS2 fan.
>all listed examples are from DaS3
Un-hollow yourself.

>>168499037
I've always hated DeS desu

>>168506951
Oh, so only things that are mentioned in the most recent game count as canon. Sure, that's a fair enough argument.

What about the dragon covenant from Dark Souls 1? I guess that never existed since Dark Souls 3 makes no mention of it.
Dark Souls 3 never mentions Manus, so he must've been retconned out because he doesn't fit Miyazaki's glorious new vision of the Dark being Deep instead.
DkS3 talks about how Chaos is shit and dead, so Chaos might as well have never happened. It's gone now, the Profaned Flame is the new Chaos.
Nito was straight retconned out of the whole series in Dark Souls 3, since he isn't even mentioned once. The Gravelord Sword on Aldrich's spear is just a shitty reused asset they used to finish a shitty rushed boss on time.
Four Kings never happened, their name never comes up in 3. Darkwraiths were just lone operatives corrupted by the Abyss.

The list goes on and on, my friend. Man, come to think of it there isn't any lore at all. Why were people saying this series is so deep, again?

>>168507114
>abyssal corruption and poison mutates stuff
>THIS MEANS HOLLOWING AND UN-HOLLOWING CHANGES YOUR FACE TO THE ANUS
No, my friend. This won't do. Won't do at all.

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Are any of you guys playing DaS2 starting the 25th this month? I saw the new thingy on the steam page while I was booting up my game, could be fun. I've never heard of Illustorywall, though.

https://twitter.com/illusorywall/status/829902872301146112/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

>>168507156
Me too, I'm really not sure why people jerk off over it. I even prefer DS2 to DeS, especially Scholar I believe is a better game.

>>168507282
DS1 and 3 are direct sequels and continuation of each other.
DS2 is not and should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
It's that simple.

>>168506743
>DARK DARK sword
no such thing, unfortunately

>>168507078
Iron Round Shield, dropped from hollows at high wall. Can't get anything better with 7str.

>>168507282
>Series is so deep
Don't you mean dark? I mean, we are talking about Deep Souls III.

>>168507363
I'm thinking of finally doing ds2 after dropping it. Funnest build?

Also that's a cute animu.

>>168507394
You're a gem, it's been absolutely ages since I played 3. It's pretty damn fun to go through it as a build I hadn't tried before.

>>168507363
Why should i stop playing nioh to go back to the worst souls game?

>>168502310
If a kingdom of giants had a human king, yeah they'd call him King Bob the Human.

>>168507451
pyromancer is a better starting class for sorcerer build

>>168507429
It's going to sound generic, but I loved a quality Bone Fist build. Something about being a muay thai knight was just so satisfying. That and flying side kicking wizards.

>>168507392
thats why I delet

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>>168507589
n-no

>>168506623
What is that comic all about anyhow? Any speech bubbles? I honestly don't get the context.

>>168507761
google 'lost' comic

How should I convince my friend to play dark souls 1 with one video?

>>168507371
>DkS1 and 3 are direct sequels and continuation of each other
Oh, is that so? Where was that said, because this is the first I've heard it mentioned. Unless we're talking about people making shit up, in which case this would be closer to the fiftieth time I've seen it mentioned.

>DkS2 is not and should be taken with a giant grain of salt
>the game that is the sequel to DkS1 and whose lore is referenced constantly in DkS3 is not a sequel and not relevant to the lore
Go see a doctor, I think your head ball is broken.

How about you tell me what other series this "if it isn't referenced in the most recent game it isn't canon" rule applies to? It seems awfully unusual to treat this one particular series differently when discussing lore. Honestly, it sound more like you're just trying to come up with every reason possible to deny your least favorite game happened, even if it isn't remotely rational. Usually, people who want to deny an entry in any series isn't canon will point to where it contradicts the lore that was already established, which is something you haven't yet done.

Though, that might be because all parts where Dark Souls 2 contradicts Dark Souls 1 are re-affirmed in Dark Souls 3, which would logically mean Dark Souls 2 was a retcon of 1 and changed the canon lore, which 3 confirmed by continuing with the changes made.

>>168507589
Not for a pure sorcerer. Sorc has a lower total of Luck and Faith, which are the only two stats sorcery doesn't use. Pyro is only a better starting class if you want to use the Immolation Tinder or Cleric's Candlestick.

>>168507792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18

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Guys, guys I figured it out
>Ds1 is main game
>Ds2 is a spin-off game ´´what else can you do besides linking the flame´´
>Ds3 is sequel and main game too
There, all three games are canon and nobody has to throw an autistic fit

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>>168494780

>>168507625
>That and flying side kicking wizards.
build?

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>>168507792
Show him a Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson montage of a bunch of summons getting their shit kicked in trying to smell what the Rock is cooking. Make sure "Little Ships" is playing in the background.

>>168507890
>There, all three games are canon and nobody has to throw an autistic fit
Nope, doesn't work. Spin-off games aren't referenced by the sequels.

Dark Souls 2 was a retcon, Dark Souls 3 confirmed the retcon and make it canon.

>>168507956

Oh wow, I completely forgot that existed.

Thanks, anon.

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>>168507880

>>168508027
>Spin-off games aren't referenced by the sequels.

Another asspull

>>168508027
I disagree with you

>>168507973
DEX/STR/INT builds. Powerstance with a magic caestus/bone fist and dress like a buff wizard. Only use cool-looking sorceries, like the ground laser.

>>168501195
rollan

>>168508135
Is Bloodborne referenced in Dark Souls 3? No? Didn't think so.

Is Shadow Tower referenced by King's Field?

Is Tingle's Rose-Colored Rupee Land referenced in Legend of Zelda?

When has any spinoff game ever been referenced in the main series, let alone anywhere near as much as Dark Souls 2 is referenced in Dark Souls 3? When has a sequel taken half its mechanics from a spinoff game? When is the lore in a spinoff game treated as established canon in future entries to the "main series"?

My anon-kun can't be this delusional.

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Will we get the cat legs back in the dlc?

>>168508162
Does it really work? Haven't played DS2 in ages and don't want to get my asshole rape

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What scaling do you guys think the Demon's Scar boss weapon (from the soul of the demon prince) will have? We know it'll be able to cast pyros so maybe D/B/C/C Str/Dex/Int/Faith?

>>168501195
Something stupid and gimmicky please.

>>168508345
You don't really need the Int for it to work. If anything, splitting between STR/DEX and INT early on would make you weaker until you leveled up way more.

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>>168501195
Rolling.
Also here's a prettier chart.

>>168507880
Fake news

black knight glaive or lucerne for ds3?

>>168508407
that's actually pretty neat

>>168508398
>implying it'll have physical damage or scaling at all
It's a pyromancy flame, it has to be pure fire. Fire is the only thing that's ever been able to cast pyromancies.

>>168508398
C/A/S/S