/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>168357414
You do know that Earthen Peak has been confirmed to be part of the next DLC, right?

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MOMMY ROSARIA

fc when

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H U S B A N D O
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nTH FOR ALDRICH FAITHFUL

PRAISE THE DREGS

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best girl

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>>168357694
It's the urges, you see. They overtake you sometimes. I'm sure he'd understand, good compeer that he is.

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You guys don't know how it feels to constantly suck shit at pvp, my win rate is like 8%.

>>168357572

Why can't it be one of the random hundreds of cycles between 1 and 3?

>>168358054
FC later the slutty witch will host

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>>168358103
>he's homo for Ponty Mython
Pontiff "if it's low test, put it to rest" Sulyvahn wouldn't approve of such transgression.

>>168358307
neither of them are hard though

How is the Sunlight Straight Sword? Worth upgrading to +10?
My Executioner's Greatsword is a little too slow for Lothric.

Anyone else planning to give the series a last send-off by running a marathon of all three games when The Fire Fades comes out? Trying to figure out how I should decide builds, maybe just go STR/DEX/INT.

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>>168357424
iirc from a memezaki interview, the more the fire fades the more space-time unravels, it starts with seeing phantoms, cross-plane invasions, and time of day varying from place to place (like how Darkroot is night time while everywhere else is day etc.).

Then some weird time travel starts happening, people from different worlds and times start getting pulled into other worlds and times, geography gets fucked up and you get things like the High Wall of Lothric happening.

Then eventually you get the dreg heap where everything starts to break down, bits of worlds and time periods get pulled and smashed together, physics starts to break down and the sun turns into a dark sign.

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>>168358132
are you pvping just by mashing the r1 button with a pickaxe or something

or are you using the secret "broken +0 soldering iron" strat?

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>>168358462
>most irrelevant lord whose soul got stuck in a literal shithole on some far continent

>>168358387
It's basically just a longsword with a WA that is helpful in co-op. Not really ideal unless you're going to be taking advantage of the buff.

>>168358549
right now I'm using dancer's enchanted swords which everyone claimed to be decent in the last thread but I can't seem to make work

then again i've never really made a build "work"

>>168358549
>are you pvping just by mashing the r1 button with a pickaxe or something
That actually should be moderately legit, shit has crazy hyperarmour because it's technically a greathammer, works with leos and the 1st 2hr1 is actually from the greatsword moveset IIRC.

>>168358710
i told you before spacing is key. master it

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>>168358450
i just realized that i never questioned how darkroot was in night and parish was in day

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>>168358289
What if I'm not a man ?

>>168356886
>Orb invasion favors hosts who already have a phantom present
Enough with that bullshit, ganking is bad enough as it is. Invasions should be truly random, so that players with zero phantoms can still get invaded and experience the PvP even if they don't want to (if they don't want to be invaded, just de-human).

>Defending covenant
Only if they bring back a Rat covenant in some form. Like, rat bro invaders can trigger traps while in phantom form that the host cannot, will never aggro mobs even with Seed, and can activate supply caches that give them healing items and restock consumables like Lloyd's and firebombs.

>Dueling covenant
An actually decent idea, players shouldn't get tongues, shackles or sunlight medals via dueling. Maybe actually make it the dragon covenant.

>Infection covenant
Gravelording was boring as hell since the servant had nothing to do but sit with his dick in his hand while the afflicted may or may not ignore the black phantoms and gun straight for the boss fog. It needs to be changed up so that the host can invade worlds and power-up mobs (also immune to Seed) alongside summoning black phantoms, give them a stake in the PvP like the afflicted.

>Protector covenant
Just change the functionality of the soapstone to a "request for assistance" sign, like how Sirris and Anri's signs work. Both items shouldn't be used only by the Blue Sentinel variant, if a Way of Blue guy wants help then he needs to call for it.

>Punishment covenant
Darkmoons should be able to invade regardless of boss area clearance, and should be global. It makes the sin mechanic actually meaningful, if someone wants to be a dick and invade others then it means that they're interested in PvP action.

>>168358132
All my pvp invasion experience was at around SL 50 and I found that if I got into a 1v1 situation I would usually win, 2v1 could go either way and 3v1 was pretty much a no-win situation unless the host was really, really stupid or super squishy.

>>168358907
HRT can't change your chromosomes, dude. I'm sorry.

>>168359005
Except that I don't do that, I don't need to

>>168358892
I keep getting roll-r1'd by weapons that actually do significant damage on single hits. Earlier I was actually doing pretty well baiting with r1s into l1 but some people are too smart for that.

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>no date on Valentine's
>only Souls friend is softbanned from DS2 and 3
So how is everyone today

>>168359137
You must've fucked up pretty bad to get softbanned in DS3. At least DS2 has the excuse of being extremely cloudy about how that shit even works and doesn't even tell you if you do get banned.

>>168357892
If Lapp is Patches, does this mean that killing Patches isn't canon?

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>>168358907
I've heard that already, I just didn't think you're the only dedicated pontiff shitposter that rushes to post his holy image at the beginning of every thread.

>>168359360
Patches is undead, anon.

>>168359286
Fucked up thing is he doesn't even use CE, never installed it. Could it be the controller he's using? He's just using a XBONE controller.

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>>168358831
but if you just sit around and mash r1 you'll still never hit non-badplayers

>>168358907
well just remember that the President of the United States approves of you

>>168359450
No way that could be the case, doesn't an xbone controller function exactly like an xbox360 controller when plugged into a PC?

>>168359450
there were some other ways to get softbanned
at one point some dsfix-style mod could get you instabanned, and of course there's always the fun when an invader drops you some +15 poison binoculars (if you pick them up you will deffo get benned for having an illegal item in your inventory)

>>168359435
I'm not the only one
I saw one other anon who posted this, twice I believe

What are some fun pyromancies for PvP? Been trying the various fireballs, but people only seem to fall for Fire Surge and Black Flame

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NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED

http://www.strawpoll.me/12340990

>>168359858
Acid mist and boulder heave. Throw out a few acid mists and then watch them run straight into a boulder expecting poison.

>>168359937
>The Firekeeper
which one

>>168359858
Profaned Flame, Rapport on the phantoms, Sacred Flame during parries and of course the one and only Chaos Bed Vestiges for close range facemelting.

Trust me I'm a skilled metamancer.

>>168360057
Theres only one The Fire Keeper, the one in DS3 that isnt the best waifu

>>168359110
will you be my valentine? please

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>>168358450
>Just realized that this now makes Heide's Tower of Flame make sense, it collapsed into the sea due to everything starting to break down, Heide knights appeared because of space-time shitting itself and pulling them into Drangleic. It's also twilight there because of this.

>DaS2 devs probably had Miyazaki's notes and knew what was going on but couldn't convey this in lore well due to the first director fucking the game over, causing them to rush out everything.

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>>168359937
You forgot best GILF.

>>168360057
Which one do you think? Surely it's not one of the old hags from DaS2.

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>get invaded in irythill dungeon playing with newbie friend
>guy drops some stuff
>tell him not to pick it up in case it's hacked
>curiosity takes over
>pick it up
>5 dung pies

>>168359132
i'm sorry my dude but i can't really help you. it'll all come with experience, join dsg's fc and watch people fight it helps alot.
you'll also get absolutely destroyed at first but that's fine you'll learn.

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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/145958

Guys is it a good pyro build? Does it need some change? Pls halp

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>>168360428
thanks for trying, at least

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>>168359937
Who else?

>>168360578
What weapon do you intend to use with this?

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>>168360578
This is what I use. Drop swamp ring for Hunter's ring if you want to use Witch's Locks

>>168360578
>no weapons
>no armor
>no rings
>121
>no pyros even attuned
No.

>>168360578
the meme level is 120 not 121

>>168360193
I'm pretty sure that Miyazaki gave a few initial guidelines as far as DS2 lore went, but then fucked off to BB so those few ideas ended up being in a pile of extremely fanfic-y shit further shitted up by a change of director and most of the game.

That's why we have Darklurker who looks like an angel but has zero lore about him but actual Angels only appeared in DS3 with different design for example. Or the whole idea of cycles that was half-assed as fuck in DS2 and only clearly explained in DS3.

>>168360184
I want Pontiff to be my valentine

>>168359937
wtf do people really like traps this much i thought it was just a shitty joke that everyone said gwyndolin was their waifu

>>168360730
Bear seek seek lest
She's like the anal queen of the level up waifus, so she's my #1

>>168360909
>just a shitty joke
>implying waifupolls aren't a joke as well

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>>168360730
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12340990
Who else?

>>168360856
but i love you fucking hippie treehugger you're not even worth my time i could do so much better

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>>168360909
Half the boys on here are gay, anon. You are outnumbered by homolust.

>>168360840
You should be happy it turned out the way it did (A great, but disappointing game) From what I heard, the former director was running it into the ground with Native American, and Zelda shit.

>>168359110
The only thing worse than a tranny is a tranny who doesn't even try.

>>168361261
>Native American, and Zelda shit

wat?

I WANT ANASTASIA TO BE ANGRY AT ME AFTER I SAY SOME HERESY THEN FRIEDE HITS HER AND BULLIES HER

>>168359937
My only waifu is Leonhard

>>168361261
>native american
It'd be funny if the "weird" game Fromsoft was working on was an old native american setting before their civilization got fucked by a superplague.

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>>168360762
>>168360767
>>168360807
Sorry, here's a better view of the build. For a weapon I want to use witch locks and some swords like Onyx Blade or some other straight sword. Had to put it at 121 for an extra point for parting flame. The empty ring slot is for situational rings, wich I think I'm gonna use for your idea >>168360765.


https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/145960

>>168359937
>no DeS yuria

>>168361425
The game supposedly took alot of inspiration from Native American folklore, and they were trying to make the gameplay more similar to Zelda.

>>168361261
You can't say shit like that without giving examples, you mean like brother bear transformation?

>>168361492
>extra point in strenght

fix'd

>>168361492

Just go 130.

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>>168360909
what makes you think they arent just shitposting their poll responses

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>1/4th of this general likes traps unironically
Based stag will give you guys a visit

>>168361261
I'm not happy with how it turned out to be and i really don't consider it a great game. A clusterfuck of badly implemented ideas, both good and bad, rather.

I would really prefer to see the original vision of first director even if that would make the game set in a completely different setting from original DS1. Lucatiel was supposed to be a Don Quixote-like charater with belltower gnome being her page, for example, unused levels were bigger, better designed and better connected, unused animations were fancier and cooler though we can still see remnants of them with how npc use magic, for example.

>From what I heard
Seeing one concept art is not "from what i heard".
Read actual design works.

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>4 kings do the grab 3 times in a row

this boss is so fucking bad

>>168361492
you know rosaria respecs exist right
you could have just stayed at 120 and re-shaped your points

are invasions in DaS2 disabled or something
i've fulfilled all the criteria but cannot for the life of me actually use any of the invasion items, nor have I been invaded throughout the actual game

>>168361526
In some alternate universe this happened, DaS2 bombed, the DaS2 team was fired and Miyazaki abandons the Dark Souls series and kills himself.

>>168361803
I know and I did this like 3 times already and none of my respecs felt consistent. That's why I seeking for guidance here.

>>168361823
step one rest at bonfire
step two select "cancel human effigy effect" or whatever it's called

after you beat a boss you get multiplayer turned off for the next 30 minutes you spend in that area, or until you cancel it
(you also get this same effect by burning an effigy in the fire)

compare to ds3 where it just gets shut off permanently in that area

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PC FC, high wall, pass dsg.

>>168361835
Nope. Miysaki was making Bloodborne at the time. Even if 2 bombed, Bloodborne would have redeemed his name.

2 as the controversial sequel still has a rather large fanbase as it is.

>>168361795
Just have your buddy heal you with bountiful soothing.

>>168361835
In some alternate universe dark souls was one wii and the wii became the 'hardcore' console.

>>168362050
thank you

>>168361835
>Wishing ill will towards Miyazaki-Chan

What did he do to you?

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>>168360765
>make a pyro
>drop pyro damage for melee

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>when i find an elite knight set in a first playthrough

>>168362429
His games have minor flaws. These piss him off.

>>168362429
>What did he do to you?
He made Dark Souls III

So why does it say "Heir of Fire Destroyed" when killing bosses? I get Lord of Cinder obviously but these bosses are the heirs of what exactly and how?

>>168362460
Only in the instance of using a weapon with high requirements. A dark longsword or onyx blade can still be used on that build without Hunter's ring. And using just the witch's ring isn't too big of a damage drop from using both damage rings.

>>168361158
You're hurting my feelings senpai

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>invade at pontiff's
>happen upon fc
>host expects you to fight with unembered HP

>>168359137
Valentine's day is overcommercialized consumption fest made to sell cards, flowers and shitty movies. If you are a friendless, dateless miserable cretin on valentines day it's the same as being a friendless dateless cretin on any other day of the year.

>>168362050
uh i just started pvping and everybody's using the dragonslayer spear and i'm getting my ass handed to me
is dark souls 2's pvp actually any good for that matter

>>168362705
I reckon they're the last examples still living of the strength that the first flame gave to the world, from before everything because reused burnt husks.
Something along the lines of "remember when these guys were the norm?"

>>168361518
But she's so dirty there are real bugs living in her clothes. It's like touching a homeless person.

>>168363020
>yuria is the only souls girl with some problems
At least two of the people on that list are already spoken for.

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>washing pole running r1s
holy FUCK

>>168363137
Nothing a good soulsucking can't fix.

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>>168359937
Plain Doll or MiB best waifus.

>>168362936
i only did this because i love you ;_;

>>168363308
I wonder if the Doll is as skilled with combat as Maria is if she was given a sword?

>invade guy at pontiff's place
>hits me 3 times with halberd
>does like 1/5th of my unembered hp
>switches to some swords
>does similar damage
I'm confused as to how I invaded someone with weapons that were apparently that un-upgraded.

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>>168363596
I like to think that the doll is just defenseless but it doesn't matter because the Hunter is keeping her safe from harm. Well that and being in the Dream I guess.

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>>168363408
Be my qt Pontiff

>>168357892
Can someone explain to me what just happnened. DaS1. After invading and the person fell off the cliff, I thought why not and followed. But I lost 8 humanity doing so. Its not on the ground where I fell off. First time Ive ever lost anything from invading. About 200000 souls as well.

>>168360840
Nice theory but Darklurker is straight up King's Field Seath.

>>168363846
only if you join the fc <3

>>168362687
Ah another faggot who thinks its cool to hate Dark Souls 3. Why dont you crawl back to Bloodborne general okay?

bf fc?

>>168364106
>more black flame
No, please. Enough is enough.

>>168363596
>>168363813
maria is best in everything
best ever

>>168363994
Your souls should be where you started the invasion from or at the last spot they were 5 seconds before you died.

>>168364106
ps4fcbf?

>>168363019
I reckon that's a shit explanation.

>>168362995
ds2 pvp is the best, but matchmaking is the worst (because soul memory)

ds1 pvp is backstabfishing memes
ds3 pvp is infinite rolls and unpunishable estus (it's good for duels and shit where estus isn't a factor, but bad for invasions)

>>168364071
Different guy but I like Bloodborne and DS3. DS3 would be fucking GOAT if it had level design/checkpointing on par with BB but even as it stands now the game is pretty good.

>>168364182
Except she ignored Gherman's advances. She clearly isn't interested in guys, She's a yuri girl!

>>168364409
>if you don't respond to the advances of a crusty old man with bloodbreath then you're a lesbian
Dude.

>>168364409
plz someone make it canon
come on vaati

>>168364197
Its at neither. Since I won the fight I spawned where I invaded from. Wasnt there. Then I ran to the cliff edge and it wasnt there either.

>>168364376
>level design on par with BB
Let's get real here, most of the level design in BB is not that impressive. I don't think there's really any terrible levels, but there's plenty of places that aren't that great.

>>168364217
Well I'd be glad to hear yours

>>168364585
>"Its clear by the way she leans into to tease the female hunter, she prefers the female form. This is connected to Velka in many ways like blah blah bah"

Though there's plenty of yuri and girl waifu's in Souls, because of how they often dont change the dialouge too much between genders.

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>>168364280
not enjoying myself all too much to be entirely honest, though maybe that's just because I'm learning the ropes
the biggest gripes I have with the game are the fact that it feels like I can't avoid taking damage even if I play skillfully; there's practically no iframes on rolls so the chances of me taking damage even if I roll away at the right time are high

then again this is all coming from a DaS3 babby

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>>168363846
Is the pontiff part tree? His mom is a tree woman and he does look kind of leafy.

>>168364797
>there's practically no iframes on rolls
did you put any points into ADP
das2 has a "makes your rolls better" stat that you have to level

get it to 20ish

>>168364182
Maria would be best waifu, only problem is she's technically immortal so she'd probably age extremely slow and outlive you. Plus side is her super human moves means she's excellent in bed.

>>168364409
Vicar Amelia as a cleric beast would probably ignore Gherman's advances.

>>168364695
Most of the BB levels are based around physical shortcuts, offer great spatial awareness and loop back into themselves. DS3 levels often tell the tension to go fuck itself by giving a checkpoint after a checkpoint and health refills at the bf.

>>168364984
I bet Gherman was pretty handsome back in the day.

>>168364197
Wait is was at the spot I invaded from the previous time. Weird but I dont feel like grinding for 200000 souls again so its good to have it back.

>>168362102
thanks for hosting! good night

>>168364975
>did you put any points into ADP
no, this is regrettably news to me
>das2 has a "makes your rolls better" stat that you have to level
man that is fucking stupid
though I don't know if it's worse than the enormous amount of iframes DaS3's rolls innately have

in DaS3, what's the sword that can r1 you, turn around and hit you with the back swing of an attack, then hit you a third time with a final uppercut?

>>168365185
dark sword

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>>168364021
But I'm playing with a friend ;-; Also with an overleveled PVE character

>>168364957
It seems that he's a sexy tree from the painted world

>>168365185
black knight UGS

that's the R1-> turn around-> Charged R2 combo

If I use my sword as much as my pyromancy flame, which one should I upgrade first? Both are +7 but seems like the Pyromancy flame barely boosts my damage, am I wrong? DS3 btw

>>168365591
well a guy just fucked me with it, good to know

>you will never sit on a bench in irithyll to study sullyvahn's new teachings on the nature of the gods

>>168365185
Black K***ht Greatsword

>>168365662
yeah it can do like 1300 damage or some shit

>>168365515
>ToD

You are banned

>>168365407
ah alright then

>>168365407

Do you think Sully would buff his cock with moon magic during sex?

>dlc releases
>dlc patch makes it so wearing phantom ring and human ring as madman makes your summon sign appear completely normal
>rings can't be taken off when you get summoned this way
would it b cool?

>>168365697
>You will never tell Leonhard that you killed his waifu after beating him to near death and see his tears of impotent rage

>>168365662
He fucked you with it because you let him. In order to get the combo off, he has to be close enough to you to fondle your balls. Only way for that to happen is if you decided to attack into a UGS and trade like a retard.

>>168361526
That sounds cool.

>>168365697
I wonder what Sully even sounds like? His battle grunts make me think he'd sound like James Earl Jones.

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>wolf knight greatshield and leo red hilted halberd

Am I... cheating?

>>168365942
I tried trading with him because he had only a sliver of hp left, which was probably his plan all along.

>>168365910
Wouldn't that just make nobody want to use white summons? I can see Sunlight Warriors being the only ones to get any actions if they do this.

>>168365853
Sorry, qt tree

>>168365892
He must alternate between moon magic and profaned flame

>>168365910
Really, it would just make every host swing once at you the second you got summoned.
Either that, or people would just summon yellows instead.

>>168366193
>>168366272
you'd probably also still be able to get locked on to but I'm just trying to give friendly madmen a purpose

the ultimate meme magic oneshot build:

BKGS plus RTSR Morion ToD

r8

>>168366127
I like the other halberd too. If you poise through some dude's attack with the charge you deal good damage. You can probably do a roll catch after perseverance or something for the same amount of damage.

But no you're not cheating. It's just a good set up that I've defeated many times.

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Is there a spellbuff document anywhere? Trying to figure out whether I should get dark blade or just use resin.

>>168366327
*BKGA

>>168366327
Counterpoint: Kirk armor.

>>168366261
no worries famalam

Making a psudo Dragonrider. Going to go Halberd obviously but which shield do you think is closest?

>>168366581
it's bkgs so you can do >>168365662 to nerds with the meme combo

>>168367103
dragonride shield from ds2

>>168367103
Ethereal

>>168367103
ethereal oak shield looks like the right kind of teardrop shape

if rosaria is gwynevere why are her tits so much smaller?

>>168367221
>>168367289
You're right, didn't think about that one. Armor's going to be rough though =/

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i hope From doesn't drop the ball with the fire weapons in the DLC
most of the ones in the current game are underwhelming so getting some competitive ones would be very nice

>>168367530
Fire Witch
Morne's / Black Iron / Cath Knight Armor
Drakeblood / Milwood Gauntlets
Drang Shoes

How deep do I have to be into Rosaria's covenant till edgelord shows up and kills her? I just got the man-grub staff and still nothing has happened.

>>168367771
>gargoyle flame spear
>homosword
>lorian GS
>tinder
>bad

Is Karla still in prison after I beat the game or does she vanish?

>>168368060
the actually cool weapons like firelink gs and all the demon weapons are practically trash though

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Is it just me?

>>168368391
Yes. He lags for me, but I can see him.

>>168367771
Why don't we get more frost weapons?
Why don't we get wands?
Why don't we get nice looking armor?

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY /dsg/!

Did you have a good day?

Holy fuck I hate the man-serpents.

>>168368391
There have been a couple ghosts for me too

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>>168368485
>tfw no gf

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>>168368485
>eating onion rings and drinking Heineken alone in my dark room since I got rejected (again)
Buy a gun, y/n?

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>>168368562
>tfw

>>168368598
Noose is cheaper

>>168368367
>bastard GS with only 1 move tackled on it compared to homosword's 2 moves
>demon weapons are all copies of their class with a single unique WA just like GFS
>Tinder removes shitty r2s for casting

They aren't any cooler than the others

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>>168368598
being rejected is better than being a spineless faggot like me that doesn't even try

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>>168368562
>tfw no bf

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>Leave us be, Ashen On-
NO I FUCKING WON'T

>>168368485
It was a pretty good day.

Valentine's gift got delivered and I'm driving out to visit my gf this weekend.

Also holy fuck never use 1800flowers for anything, it's run by the jewiest of jews.

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>>168368562
>>168368741

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>actually got invaded in Dark Souls 1

I thought this was dead

>>168368485
>closest thing I have to a gf lives 4 hours away from me
>been sick lately so feeling like shit
>on the other hand I have chocolate and didn't work today
Feels ok I guess.

>>168368775
I'll leave her be if she accepts to be my valentine

>>168368707
>single unique WA
that's where the cool factor comes in
though the WA on the garg spear and propaned's R2/WA are pretty cool to be fair

>>168368485
You guys are my valentine tonight

>>168368969
Wow guy sounds like ur life is tuff ;_;

>>168368950

https://youtu.be/c2zDvw_9exU?t=1m5s

Gimme a fun 1h weapon that's reasonably fast and fun. I'm foaming at the fucking mouth here. I'm fucking sick of getting starting my greatsword swings. I wanted to get the Dragonslayer's Axe but turns out I can only get it by following the questline of an NPC I never met and I missed it by killing the Pontiff. HahahaFUCK

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Anybody have +2 rings and Ashes armor sets (mainly friedes and milkwood sets) they mind dropping? I did a fresh install of win10 and forgot ds2 and ds3 arent cloud based so my character that was my everything build got wiped.

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>>168368598
You will find embers yet, ashen anon

>>168369163
the guy was probably wearing calamity ring of something no way I'd hit almost 800 with a single swing without even having enough STR to one hand the axe

>>168369235
PC?

>>168369235
High wall, pass dsg, drop your sign

>>168369318
>>168369353
Ah fucking shit yeah PC. On my way!

>>168369318
I remember when I upgraded my PS4 to windows 10

>>168369452
If you still need rings later, I can help

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>firelink greatsword
>firelink armor
>parting flame
>warmth

I'm loving this. I feel like a walking bonfire.
Too bad I have to be way over SL120 to enjoy it.

>>168369353
oh and I am using the white soap stone since I'm still early game, Name is Milka. Thank you.

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Thank you all for coming, FC is over.

>>168369927

Now what am I supposed to do?

i'll get you next time quelfag REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hope you have a good day famalam

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>>168369774
what

>>168370048
Cry because we're all alone on valentine's day

>>168369774
The Firelink GS is a twink weapon, anon.
Its scaling sucks but it has a built in buff to bring its split damage safely above the threshold for earlygame flat defense.
Start as deprived so you meet all the reqs and you can use it at like level 20. ~30 if you want the pyros with it.

>>168370389
Or you can just use onyx for a direct upgrade

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>>168369774

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>>168369927
Thank you for hosting! Hope everyone has a nice night tonight and a good day tomorrow

>>168368060
>>168368367
>>168368707
>>168369076
I haven't made a build around it yet but demon's greataxe is really cool looking and I think its WA is underestimated. I doubt it works very well in duels, but when I was in an invade I hit a host and all of his summons with it because it has tons of hyperarmor

My problem with all the weapons listed (and the onyx blade wa) is fire damage doesn't do shit. Mostly everyone at high levels has huge base fire resist because most players have 40+ str.

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Thank you witch (cute character/fashion). I wanted to get ready for the DLC and have a character ready but I knew if I did the NG+ 3 times for the rings I'd be burnt out by the time the DLC came out.
I'd also like to point out I wasn't scamming you. I have Screenshots of my old character and 41/43 achievements and the last one was the rings on my profile. You're my valentine this year.

Okay, quick no-spoilers question. I reached the bell at Archdragon Peak, and I can surmise from the dev messages that ringing it triggers a bossfight that will render the area inaccesable. Are there any items I should grab from here before I do?

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>>168370340

Is it worth making a character for the 140 meta?

>>168370841
I just reset my backup anyway, so I don't lose on any items
Have fun

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>there will never be a Dark Souls made by the gooks from ILLUSION

>>168370850
Not actually, in fact, more items will be available for you to get.

>>168370850
It doesn't make the rest of the zone inaccessible, it just opens the way forward to the boss

also makes the zone overcast until you kill NK

>>168370850
Well it won't make the area completely inaccessible, I'm fairly sure. At most it'll only block a part of it, and that only until you beat the boss.

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>>168370898
>the 140 meta
You mean the "I want to fight 120s with a 20 level advantage"

>>168370898

Not really. 130 is fun though.

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>Bloodborne
>the great ones are divine beings worshiped by the church, phantasms are their augurs, and getting phantasms all up in your shit is seen as a blessing
>lumenwood trees are linked to phantasms, with the implication that phantasms use them for nourishment somehow. the celestial emissary squad and failed experiments both hang out in places with lumenwood plants
>the milkweed rune turns your character's head into a lumenwood, allowing you to have phantasms live inside your head-plant and nourish them while they teach you sticky secrets in return

>Dark Souls 3
>angels are mysterious entities connected to the deep and worshiped by the angelic faith. nobody knows jack shit about them, except that they're extremely powerful and either lack target discretion or just have no sense of scale
>hollows turn into trees, and the angels are connected to this somehow, either as guardians for the trees or as projections of them. killing the tree kills the angel, provided the angel doesn't kill you first
>the player character, should they become hollow, could potentially become a tree+angel if given enough time. not that such a thing is likely to happen in the gameplay, but it's a possibility assuming they don't cure their hollowing first.

>Demon's Souls
>god is a tree
>the beast is a tree
>they are actually the same tree
>the old one devours souls and produces demons who devour souls
>humans can ascend to demonhood and even ally with the old one

Does Miyazaki just really like trees or something? They keep popping up as some kind of metaphor for bridging the gap between human and divine.

>>168370850
>>168371036
AFTER the boss fight, sorry forgot to specify that.

>>168371049
>no spoilers

Bravo, anon.

>>168371113
ok, the 150 meta then. I was under the impression 140's didn't get matched with 120s.

>>168371156
what's different about 130.

>>168370246
Warmth requires 25 Faith, 20str/20dex loses too much damage for a greatsword.

>>168370637
You make a good point. I guess that can be my next character, then.

>>168371210
150 is basically "quality but I like to cast some spells". I have one character up there, but need to play more there to see if it is fun.

>>168371334
142 is the highest you can go to get matched with 120s

>>168371158
Trees are like, one of the most common symbols in all of art across every culture in history. It's no coincidence they keep reappearing.

>>168371410
That's being a shitter, though. I want to be a bonfire, not a shitter.

>>168371325

You can actually play weaker builds with actual health (Pyros, Mages, etc.).

>>168371460
Oh.
I don't read as much as I should

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>>168370668
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/145982
>with minimum int/faith investment it has more AR than yhorm's but its split fire damage.
Can I have a dark demon's greataxe from? Please?

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>>168371334
You can still do it and not go over 120

Oh my god these fucking serpent-men in Archdragon Peak are frustrating to the point of tears.

There's no efficient way to fight them. I hate them all, so, so much.

>shield fags whom I can't seem to fucking kick open

>assasin fags just fast enough to beat out my gs every time

>the big guys

>the big guys with chain axes

I hope to live long enough for us to make computers able to feel pain.

>>168371637

Reminder Yhorm's has a self-buff with War Cry too so that AR gap is even less meaningful.

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I subscribe to the theory that BB is actually in the Soulsverse after the age of fire has ended, simply because I think that'd be fucking cool.

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>>168371757

>>168371637
Dark and demon is a contradiction of terms, isn't it? That would make the damage worse too, since it splits it three ways.

Fun fact, you can get the Demon's Greataxe to 666 AR exactly.

>>168371757
They're all super weak to lightning. Take anything with the word "Dragonslayer" in its name or description and go ham on them.

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>tfw i had to ruin my perfect 120 build because I needed to get 5 more levels with yoel to get the all gestures, all miracles, and the dark ending achievements
Now I'm nothing more than a SL125 nigger. I became the being I was sworn to destroy.

>>168371526
pyro and mages are strong at 120 and 125 though?

>>168371757
>gs
Two hand for poise to tank through dagger sneks with impunity and shut them down
L2R1 to guardbreak shieldsneks without need for kick input

Fuck chainsnek

>>168371939
>Dark and demon is a contradiction of terms, isn't it? That would make the damage worse too, since it splits it three ways.
No I meant replacing the fire with dark.
>Fun fact, you can get the Demon's Greataxe to 666 AR exactly.
Neat.

I wanna use it but its shit

>>168371161
Everything goes back to normal after the boss fight. You only temporarily lose access to one item until then.

>>168371904
>aldrich ate all the gods, swelled up to tremendous proportions
>goes from being blob-like to melting outright, now exists as a liquid
>aldrich becomes the deep incarnate
>all those souls he ate coalesce into new, eldritch forms

I can kinda see it. The whole thing would read like a Marvel-scale retcon, though.

>>168371934
>that last attack

topkek

>>168371998
Casters are inherently less efficient than melee builds and so need more levels.
Sorcs need 60int to have pvp-level damage (still lower on average than melee, though) but then 30 attunement on top of that just to be able to actually use magic. That's already a bigger stat investment than 40/40 quality. They need endurance every bit as much as a melee build because their spells cost significant stamina and they still need vigor on top of that as well as enough str/dex to meet basic melee weapon requirements (since pure casting is untenable).
It's a massive stat investment

Pyros require even more stats since they are basically the int/fth equivalent to quality.

>>168371998

They're not strong. They're weak in the "meta" which is 120. Going 130 at least gives them a health buff while top tier builds don't gain much else from the boost.

>>168371971
Just make a new dude, dude, it don't take that long.

>>168372215
I tried to be as spoiler-free as I possible. He would eventually find it by himself.

>>168372247
>goes from being blob-like to melting outright, now exists as a liquid
Beyond that even. He'd melt down until he was utterly without form, existing everywhere at once and residing through mediums like blood and voice

what's the meta for caster weapons in this game, raw/min requirements + buff or infusion for your stat scaling?

I'm specifically asking for pyro

>>168372295
>30 att

24 att
Soulmass
Darts
Flashsword
Anything else

Is all a sorcerer needs

>>168371757
Equip either Horsehoof or Knight Slayer Ring, that lets you automatically guard-break any shield-carrier (it even works on the greatshield enemies in Lothric Castle and Cathedral of the Deep).

Against the assassins, just keep your guard up until they attack, then whack them when their pussy daggers bounce. Make sure you avoid the parry though.

>>168372295

>30 attunement to be able to actually use magic

Lies, 24 attunement is perfectly workable. I can use it on my sorcerer build that even has 16 STR/18 DEX for weapon variety and still fit that on 125 and could lower it to 120 easily, 130 is unnecessary. Especially since only 3-4 sorceries are 'great' and same for pyros.

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>>168369774
Holy shit the broken armor fashion Souls is real boys

>>168372479
Woah, holy shit!
It looks almost exactly the same.

>>168372325
Isnt the achievements based on all the items restricted to a single character? I farmed my ass off to get DMB, Sunlight Blade and the Mound makers miracle. I had to get Yuria miracles to get the achievement. Gestures are easier, but still.

>>168372408
Chaos or dark infused weapon, with low specs preferbly, you'll need every point you can get to be spent on vig/att/end.

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HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY YOU FRIGID WHORE

>>168372475

Forgot to mention I can still get 39 vigor at 125 with those stats and 31 Endurance starting sorcerer. Hardly little to no health. Pyro build is practically the same but just has to sacrifice a little more Endurance at 125 compared to sorcerer.

>>168372581
I meant for PVP, because there's no other reason to care about your level.

>>168372479
armor breaks? didn't know that

>>168371998
t. SL130 pyro

>>168372408
Pyro use onyx blade

>>168372295
You know, I've never actually done the math to see how much more a caster needs than a melee build.

If we assume the baseline investment is 40vig and 40end, then
>typical quality is +60 level investment
>pure sorcerer or cleric is +70 level investment after attunement
>pyro or dark caster is +80 level investment after attunement
>if you want the highest possible returns on dark magic, that's a +90 level investment

I somehow suspect From didn't do the math either, because physical melee doesn't have anything even remotely approaching these costs. This isn't even considering Dexterity for casting speed, by the way.

>>168372408
Pyros have the widest choice because of how weapon scaling works in this game. Anything Dark or Chaos infused is good. Onyx Blade, Witch's Locks, TPGS, and GFS work too.

>>168372921
sage ring is enough for cast speed

>>168372598
Is there any real reason to use chaos when I can shoot fire all the time anyway and it takes longer to get that ember?

>>168372908
I'm too cheap to get the DLC at full price

>>168372368
>blood and voice
I learned yesterday that Orphan gives quadruple bullets from Oedon Writhe viscerals, if that means anything to you. He also gives significantly more beasthood per hit than any other boss.

>>168372408
In general:
Onyx GS as your bread and butter because it's fucking amazing. Only use weapons which have requirements equal to or lower than the Onyx GS and focus the rest on int/fth. Onyx is good enough to handle pretty much anything, other weapons are just there for variety.

For meta-faggotry: Enough str/dex to 2H a carthus curved sword and dark-infuse it. Take the excess points of out attunement and use fewer spells less often in exchange for having a top-tier meta weapon that now shits on shields. A few extra points in strength to be able to wield a BK shield, or a few extra points in dex to be able to use a dark washingpole are also viable options.

>>168372408

For pyro its min STR/DEX for your weapon of choice (likely a Longsword or something similar) and 40/40 INT/FAI with 2-4 attunement slots through ATT. A Dark-infused Longsword with those stats has only slightly less effective damage than a 40/40 Refined Longsword while gaining a character access to the best healing miracles in the game and some offensive sorceries through the Crystal Chime along with pyros if you want those.

>>168373184
In PvE, so you don't run out of fire before the boss.

In PvP, you'll want a melee weapon to keep people off your nuts.

>>168373194
>He also gives significantly more beasthood per hit than any other boss.
Probably just a bug. Beasthood is based on number of collisions detected with an enemy hitbox instead of number of registered hits. Bosses with multiple distinct collision boxes build beast meter significantly faster if your attack passes through them. Ludwig, for example, builds beast meter ridiculously fast in certain parts of his body because each leg is a separate collision box, and they overlap, multiplying the amount of beasthood gained per attack.

Orphan probably just has the same thing going on. There's no real rhyme or reason to it, it's just shoddy japanese coding.

>>168372635
DON'T BULLY FRIEDE

>>168373518
I knew about that, you can count how many hitboxes your weapon passes through based on how many times your controller vibrates during the hit. I was only counting one hit per hit, though.

>>168372538
It's only the helm nigger.
It's all in the deets.

>>168372746
yeah, they actually spent time creating a black/cracked texture to cover every armor with

Honestly everything related to durability in this game was a massive waste of dev time lol.

>>168371971
You could have backed up your save before that and then restored after you got the cheevos

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How do I make a 2B cosplay from NieR: Automata?

Should I change the armor slot?
tfw no high-heels. Hopefully the Desert Sorceress Set will include some in March.

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>>168373654
>psssh, time to unleash my spiraling duel dark flame frost scythe kid...

She's basically begging to be bullied

>>168372696
Oh yeah, I got it

>>168373771
Damn, forgot that was a thing outside DS1

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Would anyone care to help Jesus past the dancer for 5 embers so he may acquire the "praise the sun" gesture for morbid role play? An additional 5 embers for anyone willing to brave the dragonslayer armor so Jesus may acquire the divine pillars miracle for maximum divine roleplay.

The platform is PC and the password is "J. 15:13". I will try to stay out of your way and provide healing whenever possible.

>>168373890
STOP

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>>168373654
I had to, she bullied me plenty

>>168373890
What do you expect out of people from Londor?

>>168373956
Sure. Bootin up. Sign at the fog?

>>168374073
Yes please

>>168373956
Will you use CE to come back one you die?

>>168364753
I asked the question. Your reckon was just shit based on nothing.

>>168374037
>pulling range on Ariandel

You can sit on his nuts and he can't hit you with anything, why would you run away?

>>168374349

Not him but Friede will chuck ice at you.

>>168373956
Pick me up senpai

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>>168374125
WYA

>>168374349
Probably so he can see where coldfeet is as Ariandel takes 2/3 of the screen

>>168374491
>>168374506
Odd, I'm not seeing any signs...

>>168374339
You asked a question with no clear answer that isn't at all addressed by in-game lore. Don't be surprised when you get speculation in response. None of the answers you'll get will be based on anything concrete, so you might as well not have asked it in the first place.

>>168374582
Are you embered?

>>168374582
Are you embered? Have you triggered her fight yet?
Are you banned?

>>168374506
>>168374582

Do you have a space between the : and the 13? The other anon's post did and I wonder if that's the cause.

>>168374671
>>168374661
Wasn't ember, fuck me

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Im spending valentines at a bar with my wife, Lady of the Darkling. What are you guys up to?

Good bosses to co-op at at level 91?

>>168374732
Fog gate bug lmao

>>168374732
God damn glitches

>>168374860
Endgame is all you can really do.
Nameless King and Soul of Cinder.

>>168374760
stop shilling your shit """art"""

Is there anything Parting Black Flame can't poise break?

>>168375081
Onislayer, probably.

>>168374989
Jealoooouuus.

It's not mine, I just find it really god damn funny.

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>>168374989
You're a faggot.

Jesus H. Christ, this damn fog glitch!

>>168375081
Perseverance I'm sure

>>168375172
it easily breaks greathammers perseverance

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>A connection error occurred. Returning to your world.

You might be on your own, Jesus.

>>168374732
I guess it's no surprise Jesus has middle east-tier internet
Stop torrenting dolphin porn pls

>>168375304
Are you mixing up perseverance and poise, anon?

>>168375383
*sigh* oh well. I'll give it one more shot if you guys are down to try, otherwise I'll try again another night.

>>168375416
>dolphin porn
It's recordings of well-dressed couples performing intercourse in missionary position, you heathen.

>>168375485
Count me in too Jesus, I'll give it a try
Competente not at all guaranteed