/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>168311085
>>168311265

Well, consider the fact that dragons ruled the world back then. Living or simply being out in the open wasn't something you did if you wanted to have a longer life expectation than that of a Drake Sword wielder facing off against Seath.

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>>168311447

Fc

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>>168311305
Fifth for best covenant

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>>168311447
Yea, you can keep it

>>168311659
Is she doing Duck Face?

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B E S T B O Y
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>>168311659
VERY GOOD

>>168311636
Why do they even bother playing online if they don't want to be invaded? It's part of the fucking experience and they know it.

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>firelink greatsword doesn't let you ember yourself

>>168311712
CAN'T UNSEE

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>>168311720

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>>168311793
>firelink greatsword will never have a moveset that isn't just copy-pasted from the bastard sword

>>168311743
The game trains people to play through online so they can summon people for help. When it suddenly throws them into a place where they can't summon for help but can still be invaded, they don't know what to do.

>>168311896
i hate the fucking stand meme
can't so much as even check lightsaber pope's theme without being barraged with jojo references

>>168311896
U mad, Dorkmoon boi ?

I never noticed the Gwyndolin's lewd on the picture until now, kek

>>168311908
>firelink greatsword can't turn into other weapon types

>>168311636
Which covenant is that?

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Good invaders are a niche, the majority are nubbins to the 3 man slaughter, There really is no good reason to DC as the probability of being invaded by someone good is low.

>>168312021
They could at least let us trade his soul for one of his weapons.

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>>168311636
>tfw you profusely enjoy seeing the mining of salt but had to go 20+ tries on Darklurker yesterday
i am at an impasse

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>>168312046
pilgrims of dark

>>168312087
t. coward

>>168312154
There isn't actually any conflict there. It's a two part covenant: part one is killing the Darklurker, part two is preventing other people from killing the Darklurker.

They only get the experience once, so you might as well give it to them in full.

>>168311584

bf?

>>168312307
you're banned

>>168312271
yeah but knowing how fucking annoying it was for me to get past the abyss phantoms without wasting estus, I wouldn't want to plague people with the added challenge of having to ward off invaders too
what do you even get for killing people inside the chasms? human effigies?

>>168312365
pd

>>168312749
Ascetics and effigies. It's the fastest way to farm both.

Invaders are targets for invaders too, and invaders can also kill other invaders for ascetics/effigies instead of the host. I made a helpful invader once for a change of pace.

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>>168312159
I wish DaS3 had good covenants

WITCH CRYSTAL WHERE IS THE FC?

>>168313267
Mound-maker was fun when boss invasions worked.

>>168313267
At the very least it would be nice if two of them weren't in a state that makes them seem broken, while another is a good idea that has been disemboweled to the point of being irrelevant.

>>168313817
it was also fun before people knew about grape white soapstone

>>168313962
That too. I kept a character at a low SL so I could try and trick people into summoning me.

I'd still help them but most would attack me when they found out I could be targeted.

>>168313267

I wish DaS 3 had working covenants.

Looking at Watchdogs, Blue Sentinels and Darkmoons.

Because fuck if I'm going to make another account so I can family share my game with it, so I can get some autosummons going.

Is it working as intended for non-seeded mobs to be able to do damage to you, but you can't attack them at all if you invade as a mound maker?

Or is this completely normal in general? I've only ever invaded as a mound maker so far.

>>168313767
>literal morning in burgerland
>people in yurop still in school/work
try in 10 hours friend

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What? Now you're feeling the heat? You should have thought long and hard...Nyah hah hah hah hah!

>>168314110
Invading as a mound-maker makes you like a normal invader but adds the shackle bit in (so you can murder phantoms and reds to get your reward instead of only the host).

White sign summon as a mound-maker means mobs can attack you, but you can still attack the host.

There are some mobs that can damage invaders regardless of seed. I think giants and crabs can.

>>168314220
the rapist clown mask guy makes me uncomfortable

I murdered him.

>>168314016
Watchdogs works very well around SL 20 and even SL 30 from my experience.

Whats the opinion on some greatswords like Judgement Sword or Drakeblood sword?

>>168314253
>White sign summon as a mound-maker means mobs can attack you, but you can still attack the host
White sign summon also means you can use Dead Again in the host's world, for what it's worth.

>>168314314
gsoj is good, drakeblood needs to be buffed with magic or lightning

>>168314314
Great. I reccommend using buffs for drakeblood though.

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>>168314220
>ass crest shield
>a FIRE man serpent gs of all things

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Is Dark Souls 2 dead yet?

>>168314407
Maybe. It is getting an revival event though.

>>168314314
>Judgement Sword
was very weak just when the game was released but was buffed to be one of the best greatswords if you have optimal stats for it (27STR/40DEX/40INT or at least dex/int).
>Drakeblood sword
GOAT twinking greatsword
also works for buff builds

>>168314407
Yo that nigga can get banned for being shirtless.

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>>168314396
>using things in the game

No way homo

>>168314407
i played in it a few months ago and wasn't invaded once and even belltower activity was slow as hell
there were a few white signs though
bridge was surprisingly empy till i hit ng+ soul memory

>>168314479
why 27/40?

>>168314350
I've never really tried magic outside of some basic miracles. That's good to know.

I think there's that spell that lets you make mobs friendly towards you and hostile towards others. Wonder if it works too?

>>168314627
27STR becomes 40 when you 2h it

>>168314627
gsoj scales mainly with dex and int i think

Im using a Moonlight Greatsword with 40STR and 40INT, did i put too many points into STR?

>>168314736
>40 int
>anything but base stats to wield it

yes you're doing it wrong

60 int or bust

>>168314631
Dead Again is trash even in the few cases where it is usable, so don't worry about it too much. It's just one of those 'fun fact' things.

Rapport is the pyromancy you're referring to. I'm not sure what effect it would have as a white grape, never really tried it before.

>>168314736

>40STR

Doesn't strength stop scaling up properly after 30-35?

>>168314836
So the E scaling is useless? wont it do more damage with something like 40STR and 60INT rather than just the needed STR?

>>168314736
it used to be ok fo str/int but don't bother now, just go 40 int
>>168314836
that's for spells, not weapons. never heard of mlgs vitgouge in 1? same shit here
>>168314992
of course it will, but it's not worth it. stay 16/11/40

>>168314992
E scaling is fucking garbage and putting those same stats into vit would be a better use

yes

fucking vit

but obviously since you're a caster you wont have stats to spare since you need both vig, attunement and end

>>168314843
>miracles are trash
I wish this wouldn't be true so often. I even switched over to warmth pyromancy because it heals more than healing miracles.

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>lifehunt scythe isn't the scythe 2hr1 moveset
>dead again is useless trash
>affinity can't aim
>the new dark spell is just a fatter deep soul
Whose dick do I have to suck to get my resonance back?

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>>168315092
>scythe 2hr1 with UP poise and healing on hit

>>168315041
I guess 16/11/40 stands for 16 STR 11 DEX and 40 INT right?

Is there any good page for builds thats not the DS3 wiki?

>>168311659
I always thought her face was just a skull, but it seems not

>>168315272
what kind of build you looking for senpai?

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>>168311659
Is this an edit to try and make her not look like another ugly undead? Looks like someone ran her face over with a "soften" airbrush in photoshop and tried to give her human looking eyes.

Name one legitimate use for simple infusions.

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>fun times ahead

>>168315664
Recovering FP.

>>168315664
FP regen in a lightweight offhand item. You should know that, what the gem does is literally in its description.

>>168315553
The first build i used was a 50 STR with +10 Heavy Greataxe, did a lot of damage but in the end was boring

I just want to use a weapon with a cool moveset or WA thats not used by everyone like the Nameless King spear or Darksword.

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>we will never get Abyssal transformations
>instead we will be stuck with the Ethiopian dragon form

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>>168311659
>>168315596
Please delete these images.

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>going through drangleic when I notice this huge ass portrait of some woman
>walk up to it
>rapidly accrue curse
is this another example of deepest lore or will this be explained later on

>>168316023
She's a generic undead corpse.

>>168315914
>50str
Well there's half your problem, 50 was only the softcap for weapons in Bloodborne and Demon's Souls.

Do you care about damage at all? If yes, try the Wolf Knight Greatsword with 40str/40dex. If not, try Friede's Great Scythe with 40dex/40int. Wolf Knight has unique R1s that seem bad at first glance but are actually pretty good with practice, Friede Scythe has a unique 2HR1 moveset with a lot of forward momentum and rapes shields, but is kinda bad at tracking. Both have weapon arts that are awesome but are context sensitive.

The DLC also has at least one cool new dex/int weapon coming up, if it helps any.

Thinking of just biting the bullet, maybe leveling another FTH knight to 120 and then actually making my favourite knigga actually good by getting all the stats I could use

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>>168316203
n-no

>>168316075
A little of both. Lady in the portrait is Nashandra, queen of Drangleic. The cursed painting is supposed to be foreshadowing, except it's the kind that doesn't make any sense without the full context.

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Could somebody make an example poison build using 2x Mytha's Bent Blade in power stance? I'm completely clueless in this game.

>>168316398
40-50vig
30-40end
40dex
30-32adp

At least one piece of butterfly armor
Sanctum Knight gauntlets

>>168316349
>leveling FTH knight to 120
>making my favorite knigga actually good
These are polar opposite. Fth plays better at non-meta SL

>>168316398
You use the poison whip in main hand and Mytha in off hand. Also bow with poison arrows for when they are out of your whip range.

>>168316398
And rat crest ring, since it and the sanctum gauntlets boost poison buildup.

>>168316554
Mytha causes both poison and toxic buildup, but you'll never see the latter without two and some aggressive attack spam.

>>168316539
Another faith knight, I have my favourite at 120 for meta but as you say it's shit, so I wanna make him good

if i change my age to 3 in ce so i can have gael's beard will i get a shitty looking old man body too?

>>168316619
>Mytha causes both poison and toxic buildup, but you'll never see the latter without two and some aggressive attack spam.


My setup is better for overall chances of poisoning because of versatility. You use the mytha bent blade when they roll into you and whip when they are outside your dagger range.

>>168316723
Isn't it 4?
And probably, though you can change its size can't you? And being stacked makes you a fucking fat fuck

>>168316823
no i ment like, uh body texture
if you do young age you're ripped.
if you do old man you're saggy

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>D/D/D/D scaling
>moveset isn't even that good
Justify this.

What's the exact quote the doll in BB says when it's leveling you up?

>>168316356
that's quite cool
i think dark souls 2 suffers a lot from this; you can't really connect to most of the bosses because everything is so fragmented and disjointed
even something as cool as a cursed painting is lost on someone like me who hadn't even so much as heard of Nashandra, (except for in that ghost's speech but even then she was only named as the Queen) let alone seen her in the flesh

>>168316914
git gud. the range is really good
also l1l1r1r1 catches alot of people

>rush through archdragon peak, business as usual
>do plunging attack on the dragon
>i fall through him and die

What?

>>168316914
>>moveset isn't even that good
I think you're wrong.

>>168316914
biggest problem is its range.
the rest is acceptable to ok with a quality build

>>168316914
moveset is good, the problem are damage calculations in this game

>>168316918
"yamete onii chan"

>>168317038
his head needs to be in the right place for it

>>168317039
>>168316982
>>168317062
I apparently suck dick, then, because I can't hit shit without trading, which of course means I lose because it's damage isn't great.

>>168317038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0VJ7oN9sI
acquire proficiency

>>168316982
>the range is really good
>>168317049
>biggest problem is its range
Conflicting information much?

>>168317038
>plunge attack
>not jumping attack from the bell platform

>>168317308
whenever you l1 or running l1 you have alot of forward momentum

>>168317376
>Conflicting information much?
Translation: weapon is short, but attacks have lots of forward momentum.

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>>168317393
So I should try standing just out of range of their wep and then l1 to carry myself in range? Makes sense.

Yesterday at Pontiff's I landed a combo followed by a lucky r2 that took like half his health, only for him to parry me once and then riposte for nearly 3/4 of mine, which killed me.

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>whatever shall I do with her?

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>>168316075

>>168317601
exactly. spacing is key.
remember to l1l1r1r1, they usually just stand there or roll into you

>>168317647
Kill her but leave the tail on her corpse.

>>168317647
Touch

Fluffy

Tail

>>168315664

Pre patch WAs.

>>168317647
kill and make it painful

Are you fucking kidding me, I have to get killed by Tsorig to get my last goddamn gesture.

I am on journey 5 and I have to start all over again for this???

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>>168317647

THIS LAND IS PEACEFUL, ITS INHABITANTS KIND

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>>168317647
remove tail

>>168317763
If you kill him you also get the gesture. You can get killed by him and also learn it. Tsorig is generous man.

>>168317763

> I have to get killed by Tsorig to get my last goddamn gesture.

Just kill him, you get the gesture.

>>168317763
You can get it by killing him unless you don't have the patch. It's "my thanks"

Did you fight him in Demon Ruins yet?

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>>168317781
>>168317772
>>168317750
>>168317719
>>168317713
I cut off her tail and then made her blow pixie dust on it, Nyah hah hah hah!

I miss vanilla DS2.
They did balance out pvp even further with SotFS but that was about it.
The changes in enemy placement were pretty shitty and the graphics upgrade were actually a downgrade as now I can't mod the game to look beautiful.
Anyone else share these feelings?

>>168317870
I hope you set her on fire for the skeleton wheels.

>>168317763
>he's gotten to NG+4 and hasn't even fought Tsorig
How.

>>168317953
I killed him for Foomgazoog on the first playtrough and I never bothered with him again. What would I even do, dualwield them?

>>168317991
>I killed him
Then you have the gesture, unless you pirated the game like a shithead.

>>168318059
No piracy here boss.

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>pranking painted guardians on the way out

Nyah hah hah hah!

>>168317875
Can't say I noticed much difference in enemy placement outside of the changes to Heides tower and Dragon shrine, both felt like largely better areas in SotFS.

I don't care for all the random statues very much. Not that they actually impede progress in any meaningful way, since you're almost always going to have a branch on hand unless you blow them on blatant loot statues. It just seemed so random and unnecessary though.

>>168318110
And is your game updated? Are you sure you're looking for the right gesture and didn't just get them mixed up?

Be honest, are you going to buy the GOTY edition of DaS3?

>>168318164
Was there a change on this in a patch?

>>168318059
Also if I pirated the game, why the fuck would I care about achievements, you donglewongler.

>>168318136
It was mostly unnoticeable but there were some shitty changes.
Worst offender is by far the Iron Keep.
"Hmm, what does this area need? ... OH, I know! How about thrice as many katanafags, that'll be fun right?"

The branches were ehh, unnecessary, true. One thing I liked though, that I only noticed yesterday after starting my like fourth character, is that Melentia sells a single branch of yore.
That is fucking great, man. The claymore and greatsword are two of my favorite and most used weapons for NG, and the branch allows me to get them without having to go through several areas with a shitty straight sword.

>>168318231
Of course not, I already have the base game and first DLC. GOTY is just all that in one package, it's not any different beyond that. I bought SotFS on PS4, but that's because it was on a different platform.

>>168318285
>change
Yes, they made it so you get the gesture by killing him.

>pirating
You'd be surprised. And disappointed.

You're on NG+4 you said? Go through your gestures and see if there's one called "My Thanks". That's the one he gives.

Are you sure the one you're missing isn't Proper Bow?

>>168317875
>not liking having infusions available right after Pursuer, instead of having to clear the furnace room in Iron Keep
>not enjoying an actually challenging Heide with actual Heide Knights, who can be farmed for their gear
>not getting rewarded with the Bastille Key after the Ruin Sentinels, instead of going through Belfry Luna and getting ganked, for the sake of being able to fight Lost Sinner without losing lock-on all the time
Also, the lack of mods is because the guy who made the modding program for DaS2 was too lazy to update it to DX11, it has nothing to do with SotFS deliberately being designed to be unmoddable.

>>168318231
only if it's for someone else

>>168318554
But AFAIK, they do softban people for modding in SotFS, unlike how they did in vanilla.
Unless everyone I talked to lied to me and I'm just spouting shit, that is.

>>168315272
>the DS3 wiki
I hope you don't mean fextra, that place is horrible. Only good for looking at individual armor pieces for fashion
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3

>>168318662
Texture swap stuff doesn't show up on FROM's side from what I get.

It's when people cheat engine and do something impossible or unlikely, especially while online. A friend tried using the CE and got himself banned because he gave himself max of an item you could only get a small amount of each run and flagged himself for cheating.

>>168318231
I already own DaS3 with the season pass. I have absolutely no reason to get GotY.

>implying it's going to require a re-purchase
People who believe this are fucking retarded. SotFS did this only because DaS2 was released at the end of a console cycle, with the game having to be rebuilt for PS4, X-bone and DX11. Unless DaS3 is going to be coming out for the Switch or some shit, it ain't happening.

>>168319001
From is one of the confirmed devs for Switch, at least.

I love invasions in this game and I really, really wish that they add some cool covenants in the new dlc. I would be happy with two, even one, if it's a good darkwraith covenant. Or something that force more dorkmoon summons. Chances of them reworking/fixing existing covenants? I'm ok with the balance of things, I don't expect to win every 1v3 and I don't think I have the right to do so. Dried finger runs are my favorite thing to do. If they could become a big clusterfuck of rival covenants fighting against eachother and the occasional madman targeting everyone, nothing would make me happier.

Give me something prease.

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>>168317653

>time is iffy
I wish there was a sort of "storage box" at Firelink that would let you give items to other characters of yours. It would be nice to toss +2 rings I can't use at a character who can.

>>168319358
You could just mule shit.

>>168319358
That would've been great with Bloodborne's chalice dungeons and ritual materials.

>>168319148

Has From ever added anything related to Covenants in DLCs?

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>>168318130
MADMAN

>>168319435
Not that anon, but that would mean finding someone online at the same time on the same platform who's willing to mule for you. Not to mention the issue of that guy possibly just stealing your shit (not everyone plays on PC where you can just back up saves).

If there were a system for direct transfer between characters, like in the Borderlands games, that would make things much more convenient (albeit much twinkier, but people are going to twink no matter what).

>>168319621
Bloodborne's TOH included a proper co-op covenant in the patch available without the DLC.

The DLC itself had the transformation runes which used a covenant slot but didn't have any special multiplayer effects.

>>168319679
It's also just a pain in the ass to ask a person to swap things for you. It's an annoying process. It's not like FROM doesn't know people do it so some unlockable storage area that maybe costs souls to toss things into and remove would be nice.

>>168318390
>Are you sure the one you're missing isn't Proper Bow?

Fuck me, it actually is that one.

>>168319802
The best part is, they already restrict what weapons you can give to people based on upgrade level so it's not like they couldn't do this and keep twinks from abusing it too much.

>>168319901
Don't worry, I only knew because I did the same thing before.

>>168319901
Yellowfinger gives it upon being summoned just so you know.

I'm trying to do most of the side quests in DS3 and I have a question.

I just killed sulyvahn, and I have the option to go to Anor londo (and complete Anri's/Yuria's quest) or the dungeons and complete Siegward's, is there any reason to do one before the other? Or can I do them in the order I want

thanks

>>168320071
I see no reason why you couldn't do both, Sieg is isolated from other quests other than requiring you to forgive Patches.

>>168320071
Make sure youve had greirat come back from irythil before going to the dungeons, thats it

>>168319901
That one is actually annoying to get.

You either help the Darkmoon lady out and get the cat ring, or become her enemy early enough that you can summon Yellowfinger. I hate that you have to NG+ to get both.

>>168320161
Not him but I sent Greirat out just after beating Pontiff, how do I make him come back?

>>168320228
Kill another boss. Make sure to either send Patches after him with Seigward's armor, or advance Seigward's quest up to that point without stepping into the Dungeon.

YES, INDEED

>>168320339
I haven't stepped into the dungeon yet and I just spoke to Sieg in front of the fire place, does it matter which of the two I send?

>>168320546
If Siegward is at the fireplace, that means that he has his armor. Whoever has the armor is the one that saves Greirat, Patches can't do shit anymore.

>>168311636
I invade a lot myself and like pvp, but what I hate is just how much of a timesink an invader is.

Like, you are about to fight a boss, so you pop an ember and wait around for a summon sign to appear, because you already beat this boss solo and just want to kill it quick and easy. But instead of seeing summon signs, you get invaded. So you take down their health bar, they heal. You take down their health, they run behind a mob and heal. You take down their health, they run and heal and come back. They suck at pvp, but you can't finish them off because you don't have the undead hunter charm, and they just use the pve elements as shelter. So you get annoyed and just dash through the level for the boss door, and they catch you and kill you and point down because they thought you were running from them because you were scared, but in reality you couldn't be arsed to take down their health another 4 times.

>>168320624
Okay, where do I go talk to Sieg now? He didn't say anything about Greirat at the fireplace.

>>168320624
>NG+
>send Patches to Lothric for Greirat
>Greirat dead
>Patches comes back talking about all the treasure he found and how you should be grateful
>it's a divine blessing and noting else
did Patches meme a 3rd time?

>>168320786
I don't mind so much in DaS3 because I'll just equip WoB, pop a giant's seed, and wait.

Same thing in DaS2, except there the WoB doesn't work so good.

>>168320786
You could, you know, Seed. Or put on Way of Blue. Or actually equip yourself for PvP in the minute or so before the phantom finds you. Or any number of options.

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>>168319148
>be both a fan of Gravelords and Darkmoons
>one is completely forgotten, the other is the game's favorite chew toy

>>168320786
You can sit at the bonfire and wait for summon signs to prevent invasion. There's also a miracle that shows summon signs while you're not embered.

When I don't want an invader I just suicide, and saw a lot of players do the same when I invaded them and was being a dick.

Weapons and protection are sturdy enough, by and large.
But when overused, they'll eventually break.
When their durability is low, repair becomes a necessity.
Use a powder, or simply rest at a bonfire.
But should chance impel them break, bring them to me.
I'll hammer 'em back into shape.
They take no pleasure in breaking, I assure y'.
So handle them with care, if y' would.

>>168320896
He doesn't say anything about Greirat ever, he just saves him when you kill the next boss so long as you don't go to the Dungeon.

>>168320896
You just go beat a boss without advancing to Irithyll Dungeon. Old Demon King works, same with Pontiff if you hadn't already beaten him. Otherwise, if you've already killed Greatwood, then your only option is Aldrich. Unless you're willing to go do Dancer early.

>>168320896
He saves him off screen. Greirat will make a comment about him when he gets back.

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>>168321085

>>168320542
the darksign brands the undead

>>168319148
>dlc adds Champion's Covenant
>equipping it makes red phantom enemies spawn
>and banishes any summons you had
>and prevents you from summoning
>and replaces all summon slots with invader slots
>and triggers the dried finger effect
>and maximizes your invasion priority beyond full gank squads with fingers
>and allows invaders to enter the boss room with you
>the first covenant reward is a ring that gives the broken straight sword a new stance weapon art with crazy hollow flails
>the second reward gives the broken straight sword s-rank luck scaling for +200 more AR at 40 luck and stacks with the hollow infusion

>>168321191
I can do Aldrich, then. Dancer is already dead.

>>168321085
I have never had a weapon break. The only conceivable way is to get memed on with acid or just PvP or co-op for a really long time and forget to bonfire.

>>168321486
What would you need to do to get a reward item, kill an invader?

>>168321604
Depends on the weapon. Some can survive an entire level and still have attacks to spare, where as some actually need repair powder. The weapons that needs lots of hits to do damage tend to ware out.

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I wanna do an Int/Faith build in Dark Souls 1. Got some questions for you senpai's.

-Magic +10 or Enchanted +5?
-Similarly, Occult +5 or Divine +10?

I wanna keep my main combat style melee, based with Sorceries/Miracles supplementary. Is int or faith better for this?

Also, for the moonlight butterfly horn, can I reasonably get a +10 spear before the end of Sen's? Or should I just downgrade the lightning spear to +10 and use that?

Have a 2cute4u painter as my thanks.

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>about to fight curse-rotted greatwood
>killing a couple of the random mobs before it's awoken
>my buddy is waiting just outside the boss fog
>suddenly he gets one-shot by a backstab
>realise a purple has used the boss invasion glitch
>he can't get into the boss fog because I haven't actually started the fight
>wave at him from the other side and then black crystal
>go back to the bonfire and re-summon friend
Nice try cunt
Try not being so desperate next time, maybe you'd have got the drop for real

>>168321716
Either kill an invader, or kill a boss while invaders are present.

>>168321486
>want reward
>go offline and kill everything with arrows

>>168321486
I actually like the covenant up until the silliness with broken sword.

Make the first reward a spell that causes you to take double damage a la kalameet, but also double souls and double pvp rewards

The second should be a ring that prevents you from healing but also prevents everyone in 10 meters from healing

>guy turtling with shield who exclusively does SS pokes when it's 110% safe to attack
>does nothing but keep guard up and roll away all the time
>get so bored of this quickly I just alt tab and let him kill me
>tab back in time to see him spamming super hilarious gestures
>this was a fucking bonfire duel, too

Is this the climax of DaS3 pvp meta?

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>>168316914
>not using the GOAT D/D/D/D scaling weapon.

>>168321778
If memory serves, Occult +5 is roughly equivalent to Divine + 10, except for their respective bonuses against Gods and Necromancy respectively.

Enchanted is basically supercharged Magic, it increases scaling with INT but doesn't scale as well with other stats. Probably stick with Magic if you're not going ultra high INT, although other Anons could correct me on this.

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>have 40 vigor
>miss 1 ONE (single) parry on an r1 spammer human resin longsword user that just invaded me
>he kills me in 1 combo where I can't even move


explain this shit

>>168321919
>Make the first reward a spell that causes you to take double damage a la kalameet, but also double souls and double pvp rewards
A sorcery that doubles your item discovery rate and soul absorption, you take double damage. Duration 1 minute.

>The second should be a ring that prevents you from healing but also prevents everyone in 10 meters from healing
I don't know if that effect should be a ring. What about a miracle that doesn't block estus, but causes curse buildup every time you drink one? VoS-sized AoE on caster, caster included in the effect, duration one minute.

>>168322147
How could you get rekt at 40 vigor with 2 r1s? Shouldn't you be able to roll away after 2 hits?

>>168321785
Unless this happened last week, either the purple was using CE or you're bullshitting.

>>168315664
FP regen on an offhand parrying tool, you fag.

>>168322147
let me guess:
you eat 2 r1, tried to parry the 3rd and proceeded to eat another pair?

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The Ringed City better have my weaponfu in it or Miyazaki is gonna get what's coming to him.

>>168322272
>get hit by r1
>staggered
>hit by r1
>roll away
>hit by lag
>staggered
>hit by running r1
>parry
>hit by r1
>dead
>opponent points down
>opponent gets parried

>>168322445
Don't kid yourself, anon. You know they'll just make it a paired weapon with dagger R1s and gold tracer L1s.

>>168322292
It was a week and a bit ago, I just haven't had a chance to express my disdain about it

But I take it that means they've patched boss invading out?

>>168322581
no he actually just killed me in like 6 hits where I couldn't roll away

>>168322650
>silver tracer has huge 150 crit modifier
>can't parry while the gold tracer is out
>gold tracer moves don't combo
>it ends up being just a shorter crow quills

ringed city after ending content?

>>168323698
lets hope they atleast match the scholar dlc ending

>>168323276
>huge 150 crit modifier
>silver tracer hade 160
>crit modifiers are bigger in DaS3 than in DaS1

>it gets a crit modifier of 200
and shit damage

What's a great Strength weapon for Dark Souls 1?

>>168323698
>>168323818
DLC confirmed not to affect the base game and Miyazaki said the themes of the main game were sufficiently explored in an interview.

Knowing this, I can't see how they'd add a 4th ending. Especially since TRC occurs before we fight the soul of cinder plot wise.

>>168323698
Of course not, that's fucking retarded. You get teleported there just like with every other DLC in the entire series, meaning it doesn't have to be anywhere near the Kiln.

>>168321486
>Champion's Ring
>Extra unarmed damage
>if both fists are empty, get the caestus moveset except l2 is a parry
>if only the left fist is empty, l1 is right hand WA, l2 is parry
>turns rolls into dashes/jumps pve enemies do (iframes not affected)

>Champion's fist
>S str scaling
>basically the bonefist moveset, except 1hl1 is gundyr's shoulder check, 1hl2 is gundyr's kick

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Thoughts on this guy?

>>168324190
He wasn't feeble or a cursed undead and was kind enough to remind us to check to see if we had the stat requirements of the spells he was selling.

>>168324190
>feeble

>>168324190
A wise man, too bad the BotC is feeble in comparison.

>>168324190
I struggle to handle the glories that are his spells

>>168324190
im so.........
terribly weakkkk

>>168321072
>liked chaos servants because I liked quelaags sister
>quelana and quelaags sister are both dead in 3

;_;

>>168320969
Greirat can't survive Lothric castle at all. Patches can only save Greirat in a very specific situation at Irythill. But at least by sending patches you got something else from his death.

>>168324386
>glorified shortcut
Shit covenant.

>Kill the same FC host 6 times in a row
>He keeps summoning me
Oh well, easy tongues

>>168324476
I just liked it because I could care for her. Too bad they cut some of the dialogue.

Is friedes scythe still good or did they nerf it? I haven't played in months.

>>168324476
>shitting on bolas del fuego del caos

>Swing at someone
>Because of the shitty delay/local screen based netcode he swings at roughly the same time
>We trade hits
>I'm still staggered while he gets to recover fast enough to hit me a second time and kill me

Is there a way to avoid this other than to play super passive?

>>168324754

Friede's meme scythe was never good.

>>168324848
Use a greatsword and gain those sweet hyperarmor frames.

>>168325020
the people that do this to me are generally people with stuff like butchers knife, the answer is to just match them? I thought big weapons sucked in this game

>>168324476
Covenants in DaS1 were shit. In practice, it only truly had six covenants (five if you exclude the shitty dragon covenant).

>>168325087
>In practice, it only truly had six covenants
Like what? I sure as fuck would not include all the obsolete PvE covenants with different rewards.

>>168325060
I use a greatsword type weapon against certain weapons and a longsword type weapon against other. Alternativley run a avelyn in your offhand and laugh at pure melee fags.

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You've been tasked with coming up with a 5th offensive stat for Miyazaki's new action dark fantasy souls game, alongside Str/Dex/Int/Faith.

What do you name it? How does it work?

>>168325060
Big weapons have their place. If you're stupid enough to try to trade with them using a smaller weapon, their hyper armor will ensure that you get staggered while they get a free follow-up.

You could play as a passive hit-and-run faggot with a small weapon, but one mistake means that you could lose the fight.

>>168325269

Doug

It increases the Doug damage of your weapons

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>>168324190

>>168325087
ds1 covenants had bad execution but great ideas

2 had the champion covenant that just did shit the game already should've done, made dragon covenant even more pointless because now dueling/red soap are super easy to get and 3 has two covenants that literally have no reason to exist (mound maker/blue sentinel)

way of blue is sort of bullshit in 2 and 3 too. in 2 it doesn't fucking work and in 3 its not a covenant because it doesn't level up.

>>168324949
well, I had some success with it, atleast in pvp. But it was absolutely awful to use in pve.

>>168325279
It's not that I try to trade with them. I try to beat them with my faster weapon but because on their screen they actually swung 1-2 seconds before the game tells me we end up trading

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>tfw success rate for blues summoned in to help me during an invasion has been 100% so far

Glad somebody is getting their proofs that way

>>168325269
Edge. It increases damage dealt with status effects

>>168325269
Style. Each point in style increases a weapons style rating. The higher the style rating the more damage you get from a weapon's weapon art.

>>168324190
he's a cunt

>>168324459
I know, but Patches still has dialog and behaviour to acknowledge the NG+ scenario potential.

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>finish main game content
>ready to move onto Ariandel
>notice my SL for the first time since God knows when
>96

Whoops.

It's not too much for the place, right? I can still get co op and invasions?

>>168325396
>mound maker
>people actually summon me for coop all the time
>mostly because I put my signs in areas with no ordinary white signs
>those that obviously know how purples work try and backstab me before I backstab them
>sometimes get summoned as a discount blue
>always go after other purples for double shackles even though I've already maxed my rank
I mean yeah it's still pretty flawed but it's great fun if you follow the general rules and concept.

>>168325649
in my experience 95% of the blues are shitters

>>168325813
too much for sl40 content everyone done it on their mains when it launched 100+sl

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Are Str/Int, Dex/Int and Dex/Faith builds viable?

Is there still no point in using anything but 70% and a Straight Sword?

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>>168325269
Poy-su

Its like Poise except engrish.

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>>168325923

Oh okay then. Thanks.

>>168325218
Sunbros
Darkwraiths
Gravelording
Darkmoons
Forest gankers

The other ones were either glorified PvE, or worthless shit.

>>168325269
Insight: Primarily used for scaling Dark damage, Hexes are their own casting class now with their own casting tool.

Also increases range for bow-type weapons, while decreasing draw and reload time.

>>168325968
If you arent a shitter.

>>168325968
>already rejecting Str/fth
yeah, either make it around buffing or hp regen or around a specific weapon

>>168326075
>Gravelording
>Darkmoons
>not dysfunctional pieces of shit that appeared once in a dark moon

>>168325836
>mostly because I put my signs in areas with no ordinary white signs
Where is this? There are signs literally everywhere because there's no reason to not put one down, and if there isn't it's either an area where you don't need to summon or they can just password people.

mound maker may actually be viable in like 2-3 years when this game is dead, but right now there is zero reason to summon one so it's broken.

Is SL 90 too high to co-op/get invaded anywhere in ng? (DS3)

>>168326068

These pictures are cringe as hell.

>>168325813
I still get plenty of summons at 120 for boss, and invasions are still fairly commonplace

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>>168326246

They're booth babes.

>>168326223
Try Archdragon Peak

>Want to curb the number of people getting destroyed by meta cheese builds when invaded and thus add multiple layers of stuff to make invasions stacked against the invader

>In doing so made it so that only invaders that don't get instantly destroyed are ones using meta cheese builds

what did from mean by this? did they genuinely not realize that by stacking the deck so heavily they would obviously make it so only the very best/asshole builds would invade?

- t blue tired of having to chase avelyn fastrollers with all the roll/stealth rings throughout the entire level

>>168326223
90 is fine for most higher tier bosses

>>168326180
>Where is this?
Wherever there are no/few usual white signs at the moment, just warp around a bit. Usually works best when burgers are asleep, not gonna lie, I'm lucky I live at the opposite end of the world.
The entrance to the Catacombs right after watchers works wonders for me on PS4. And I wouldn't call PS4 underpopulated since I often see 5-6 signs at places like Halfway Fortress.
I also have to say that the "purple signs that appear as white" gimmick that people jerk off to would've never worked because hosts would simply learn to swing at their phantoms once they spawn it. With the way it is now, when you're summoned by someone who's not a newfriend you're working on terms of mutual trust. Hell, I've met a couple of people that once I've guided them at the bonfire intentionally started feeding me phantoms until I fuck off to my world. Others just gank, but that's fair game too.

>>168326167
Covenants in general are broken in all of the games, but Darkmoon was best implemented in the first one (Blue Sentinels worked similarly in 2, combined with the babby helping feature, but was fucked by SM and lack of full orbs). It's only really in 3 that it's broken, but it's so broken that it really deserves criticizing.

Gravelording was fun when it worked, the problem was that nobody ever tried to expand on the idea afterward just like with Nito, lol. Imagine a Gravelord covenant in DaS3 where you invade as a weaker version of a red phantom, but you spawn black phantom enemies that are essentially mini-boss tier and also buff and heal/revive nearby mobs while boosting their aggro range and speed.

>>168326075
>Insight
>hexes scaling with anything other than luck

At least stay true to the series lore, man. Dark magic is humanity-based, it should scale with the "essential human trait".

>>168325269
<Name>: gifts status effects (poise, casting speed, larger AoE, etc) according to your higher stat while weakening your lowest stat effects (defense).
If mundane, boosts dragon's items/weapons

Playing on PS4, is there any correlation between the more player characters you have and assets loading or NPC behavior? I swear it's actually getting worse the more I play.

>>168326921
blue sentinel in DS2 is worse than DS3 darkmoon, because at least DS3 darkmoon is just a xerox copy of something that actually fucking works correctly.

blue sentinels in DS2 are fucked by

>Soul memory
>Having to consume tokens to duel, unlike reds
>Way of blue requiring you to be in the same area while YOU wear a ring
>Blue orb only working on people that have 10 or more sin meaning that someone has to invade 10 times when invasions are way less common for a whole ton of reasons before the cops show up, instead of once in DS1 (a game that also encourages you to kill NPC's unprovoked more than DS2 does)

all of this shit put together means that actually seeing a blue phantom is insanely rare. I've genuinely seen more gravelords in DS1.

DS3 darkmoon being a copy of blue sentinel and there no longer being blue orbs is a fucking travesty, but after the patch that let you turn on WOB during invasions they actually get lots of action, that's way better.

>>168311908
Why do I remember the crow demons from painted world as being headless? I distinctly remember them having headless torsos, despite knowing now that they have heads.

>sacred oak shield DLC has 100% phys block and regen
fucking kikes making DLC shit OP

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whats this I heard about a DaS2 revival event?

>>168328460
It has shit stability and being WA oriented might not be ideal

>>168328460
people still use BKS anyway, it's mostly praised as a twink weapon since the regen is upgrade-independant

>>168328532
>shit stability
it's beneath any meta shield but iirc it isn't especially low or anything

>WA oriented
that's usually ideal on midshields since their parries aren't great anyway

>>168328532
what?, if I'm not wrong it has like 4th best stability of regular shields. BKS, SKS, Stone parma beats it on stability, but not on resistances.

>>168328690
>upgrade-independant
fuck I already upgraded it to +4

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>you cant have anymore than 10 characters

fuck this gay shit how am I supposed to maintain several different level ranges as multiple builds with just 10 fucking slots?

>>168328860
Family share or/save scum

>>168328860
Save backups

>>168328725
You're forgetting lothric and SoW. There are a bunch of shields below those with 50 stability, it's considered "generic" but "not good" to be in that range or lower.

>>168328841
upgrading it is still worth it for everything else, it's just the regen that's independent. It you already have other things upgraded then you've already inflated your weapon memory anyway.

>>168328063
As in saved characters? No, there wouldn't be. That's not how files work.

Maybe your PS4 is dying. For PC's you take them apart slightly and blow air to keep them from catching on fire. Consoles don't really get maintenance so it might be shitting the bed.

>>168326357
Is that a fucking silver knight sword? Fuck you miyazaki

So whats the general opinion on Great Hammers? I dont usually see them in PVP or just using them for fun except Morne's one.

>>168326357

I know. That's what's so cringe. The fact that putting a bunch of women in uniforms to see a video game works is pathetic. Who honestly is influenced by this?

>>168329258
I like them, but most of the ones in DaS3 have strangely shitty scaling.

>>168325269
Luck. Everyone calls it luck because of its association with greed and desire, but it's actually just Humanity.

All dark damage scales purely with Luck, softcaps at 50 for weapons and 30 for spells. Spells still require Intelligence or Faith and have no Luck requirement, up to 30 at max in either category. This allows a sorcerer to have 50 Intelligence and 30 Luck for a backup damage type without overlapping with Faith, keeping casters distinct from each other. A "pure" dark caster would have 30int, 30fth, and 30lck, which would be enough to cast every dark spell in the game and get the full softcapped scaling for them.

All weapons and spells softcap at 50 of their respective stat instead of 40 or 60, except for dark spells due to having additional Int or Fth requirements up to 30 each.

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>>168324190
Straid outta Drangleic crazy motherfucker in a prison cube
From the gang called wizards wit' attitudes
When I'm called off, I've got a Arced Sword
Mash R1 and bodies are hauled off
You too hollow if you fuck wit me

So I'm leveling up for a poison sanctum mace build in SoTFS, at the moment I'm just using falconer armor and a fire longsword at level 50. Is there a better weapon I can use in the meantime? I'm grabbing pyromancy in two levels.

>>168329258

They're are terrible for PVP. Great for PVE.

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>SoC takes 70% of your health with a single strike

anyone call artificial difficulty?

I miss Vanilla DaS2.

>>168329459
>DS3 dark hand animation is from DS1
>it still looks like you're motor boating the persons tits
>the fall animation still looks stupid
>the animation takes too long to catch people you parry
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>168329258
either you win with half health or you lose without touching your opponent.

>>168329459
27 Vigor is not the softcap.

>>168329289

>Who honestly is influenced by this?

Normies.

>>168329228
I think it's the LKGS with less wide blade. You can see it in the Lothic K***ht vs Winged K***ht field

Genuine question, how do people do well in when invading with dex weapons now that they've been nerfed?

The bad netcode and roll spamming encourage throwing out big sweeping weapons to actually hit someone

Absorption/armor being sort of worthless means they'll kill you in 2-3 hits unless you're a big guy with tons of vigor

Because of how trades work in this game you can just throw a hit out if you think someone is gonna attack and while they get staggered you get to hit them again for a kill/90%

Invaders having less estus, estus being so easy (and lloyds being so bad) and health means that you effectively need to hit them way more than they do you, so a weapon that does a bit less damage per swing is generally only hurting you.

I guess you can still be an asshole with washing pole running attacks, but that's one weapon vs the many strength weapons

>>168315237
>the healing is garbage and also so is the damage
>and it costs 20 FP to swing before UP added on

>>168329407
I can never get over how much Grandahl looks like a WoW character

>>168330263
Where'd you get this pasta from, I haven't seen it before?

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>>168324190
AYE YO HOL' UP
*invents extremely powerful sorceries*
YOU FINNA SAYIN'
*masters the rare art of soul transposition*
YOU FINNA FEEBLE
*gets thrown in jail and petrified for untold centuries just so he can't escape*
YO HOL' UP HOL' UP
*wakes up in a room full of exploding hollows and teaches his savior how to mock*
YOU FINNA SAYIN' WE WUZ SORCERER'S N' SHEEEEEEEIT!?

>>168329459
L-lewd

Talking about SoC, HE IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE WITH AN ULTRA REEEEE

>>168326397
they don;t know how or don't care to balance invasions. same reason they try so hard to buttfuck invaders with less hp and half estus and try to lessen twinking with weapon memory, but leave things like raw ass and dsa in and don't look at estus charges or upgrade levels.

>>168314524
But sluts won't get banned for streaming light pornography 24/7

>>168329459
>getting hit by the easily telegraphed combo that anybody who's played DaS1 would instantly back away and avoid because they recognize that it's not a move from his original repertoire

>>168329560
That's what made it so sexy in DaS1, especially when used on Reah or Dusk.

And of course it has a long animation, it's literally an unblockable grab attack that damages the other guy and heals you at the same time. It would be stupidly broken if it didn't have the animation.

What's the best weapon in DS3?

>>168331450
Blacksmith Hammer.

>>168331450

Anri's Sword.

>>168331450
Bastard Sword

Do duel charms disable estus or only buffs?

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how good heals you get with eleonora+pontif left eye and replenishment?

>>168331970
Only buffs. Undead (Loyd's talisman) hunter charms are for estus.

>>168332002
Well you'll literally never proc pontiff eyes with an axe so you might as well go full retard sun princess ring.

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>Silvercat Ring doesn't prevent the damage from jumping off Ariandel's roots to the frozen lake below
I'm thoroughly disappointed

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>>168332578
Well no shit genius, do you even know how Silvercat works

STR or DEX in DS2?

>>168332790
grorious nippon steer

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Okay /dsg/, fix this spell

>>168332731
By its wording I thought it would prevent all non-instakill fall damage.
So everything but bottomless pits

>>168332731
To this day, I am amazed at what kind of falls are considered survivable in DaS3.

>>168332790
Why not both?

>>168332790
base requirements with elemental infusion

>>168332976
Even as a quality build you still need a weapon so the DEX vs STR decision comes up again

>>168330973
all of the things you say make it clear that they hate twink/meta builds yet they also make it impossible for anyone that ISN'T twink/meta to get anywhere

are they just stupid?

>>168331450
Objectively >>168322038

>>168332907
Make it work exactly like in DaS2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJzUoKvX_s
RIP.

>>168332925
If you would have died without it you'll always die with it, it just prevents nonlethal damage.

>>168331450

Depends on the situation, and most classes have weapons that all equally do well against enemies or players.

I found Dragonslayer Spear and Dragonslayer Greataxe to trivialize much of PVE.

>>168332925
Tip: toss a prism stone off a ledge. If it makes the normal prism stone sound the fall is non-lethal with cat ring. If it makes a sharp scream it is auto-death even with the ring.

Is this an okay DaS2 build?

I've been abusing the loyce greatsword and hunter's blackbow

>>168329682
>first swing
>"uunngh shit this is so heavy"
>second swing
>"gaah-hahah, oh my god my back!"
>third swing
>"hhnnngg, I think I just sharted myself"
>wins battle
>make "by my sword" gesture with a 5 ton dragon tooth
>"AHOY! FOR VICTORY! :D"

>>168331450
Pontiff's Dual Blades
Honestly, Dragonslayer Greataxe

>>168333293
>auruous set
>double invis rings

very funny

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>>168333293
fml

>>168331450

Washing Pole

Katana moveset, damage and bleed with range approaching spears.

>>168329728
20 VIG here

>>168331192
>implying it's the first time I fight SoC
>implying I wouldn't manage to dodge most of it but eventually he hits me, staggers me and then pulls moves like withdrawing his sword/spear and finishes me off just like that
>implying I wouldn't have played any other Souls games, DaS1 included
>implying you're able to dodge every single move of him
1/10 bait made me reply