/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>Warmth is locked behind being a successful Grapist

Fuck you From.

*black crystals out*

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>>168258764
>1 post early

oh new thred
Is parrying online players easier to do than parrying NPCs? Cause I can almost consistently parry PvP nerds but im shit at doing it on PvE

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>darklurker
i don't think I've EVER been quite so absolutely fucking furious at a boss before

>>168259110
Wait til DLC2

ds1 has lame as hell bosses and the interconnected world falls apart when you hit anor londo.

>>168259170
which boss are you referring to
i want to begin seething now so I'm prepared

I remember reading somewhere last year that vitality is actually pretty important in das3 and raises phys def as well as carry weight. Does this hold true? Is there a point where investing into VIT is more useful than vigor?

>>168259290
shut the fuk up

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Why use?

>>168258904
>implying being a grapist is hard

>>168259047
NPCs are much more predictable with their attacks, there should be nothing stopping you from parrying them.

>>168259436
I dunno man, the stamina and damage absorption penalty seem pretty great. If you're fighting a guy who's tanking with a shield, chip through it with this spell.

t. shitter who hasn't even played the DLC, nor has a sorcerer character who can use it.

>>168259047
pvp tends to be more predictable

>>168259436
it's pretty

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>spawn as a cop to Ariandel
>just above the drop to wolves
>see the invader's health bar at the bottom of the path leading to Follower's Javelin
>run in
>get swarmed by wolves
>die at the same time as the invader
>+1 proof

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>>168258968
wew cool parry my dude peep this

>>168259509
I know that already that's why I'm asking.
>>168259710
For 3 more int you could get snap freeze which is a million times better. (why the fuck aren't the rest of the mist spells like this?)
>>168259746
You got me there.

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Hey guys, not played since before DLC1 and grabbed the SEASON PASS when the 2nd was announced.

Does /dsg/ use the Undead Match at all? Like with a password and shit?

Is Valorheart good? Been having a lot of fun with it.

>>168259110
just use pyro

>>168259710
>invade as a grapist
>get ganked by the host and his summons
>get ganked by other invaders

Being a Grape is suffering.

>>168260251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFOQWlQuTg

I know, his voice is awful.

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I actually want to slap the shit out of the stupid nips who designed Rosaria's covenant.

>we're going to let players change appearance in-game, how can we fuck up this simple improvement?
>lets tie it into respecs for no fucking reason, and cut the number of respecs into less than half of DS2
>let's also do a shitty Lautrec quest mirror, but unlike DS1 reviving with her soul doesn't let her talk or increase the respec number so taking it back is worthless compared to trading for the miracle or popping it for the fucking 5000 souls
>make her rank 30 reward a fucking shit magic staff that only scales off LUCK

This is also disregarding the release state where you'd have to join till after Twin fucking Princes just to avoid shitting up Sirris questline.
God I hate this dumb bitch so much.

>>168260118
well other than pre-frostbitten weapon your other option is to try to get maximum buildup by using twin weapons
still won't be very good though

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>>168260040
The way /dsg/ whines about its parry frames, getting them feels so good.

>Point Down
That's fucked up.

>>168260445
That's why I got my shackles in Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep, you get the occasional Watchdog to help you out and the environment works against them (if they try to gank you, lure them to the Black Knight or giant crabs or Elder Ghrus or Corvian nest). Most times a Watchdog will be willing to help you out since he knows that he gets nothing from killing you, but you both stand to benefit if you kill the host.

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>>168260619
we posting parries?

>>168259358
>two passive-aggressive demons with toxic attacks
>when one dies, another awakens as demon prince and goes apeshit on your ass with lingering hitboxes and spamming so much projectiles fight looks like it's straight from 2hu

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>>168261002
I guess

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guys I just had a thinked though yeh

the profaned flame that sulyvahn found, the one that never fades, what if it's the pygmy's lord soul? not the dark soul we know (which could easily be a by-product of the whole burning souls thing), but the honest to goodness real flame that the pygmy found on the day of creation.

the cathedral of the deep directly references the pilgrims and their "butterflies" that burst from their back, the butterflies instead of being generic dark actually being on fucking fire. Possibly a result of the dark flame reclaiming the emptiness left within the humans when the flame was separated from them. By going "hollow", the londor pilgrims know, you are taking more of the dark soul within your body, to be lit with power once the true profaned flame reclaims it.

In this vein Sulyvahn was putting all of his effort into ending the age of fire not to create an age of dark or "the deep", but to be the next Gwyn and ultimate god of the second age of fire, he would create with his profaned flame.

Sulyvahn was using aldritch, leoric, the cathedral of the deep, even the sable church of londor, to take the fire off its mantle so he could put his onto it, and become the true "dark" lord.

but then Ludleth and the guy who linked the flame and merged with the soul of cinder came and started another age of fire anyway, and fucked him over.

>>168260445
>tfw 80% of my white sign grapist sessions are hosts actually willing to cooperate
Just put it at some of the lower populated bonfires where you don't see white signs often.
Being a Grape is fantastic.

>>168259110

Freide is the only boss that's pissed me off in the entirety of DaS3.

>Haha ok that was pretty easy
>Oh it's not over
>lol 2 boss
>Phew that was tough but it's done now
>LMAO 3 PHASE! 3 PHASE LMAO!

Didn't help that I was doing her for the first time on my NG+6 character but still, just throwing 3 bosses back to back with one of them being a 2v1 is irritating.

Battle Axe or Reinforced Club for PvE? I made a mistake.

>>168261185

But who Linked the Fire if it wasn't Ludleth? Why were all the lands of the Lords brought together but not Gwyn's and Ludleth's? Why wasn't Gwyn brought back? How did Ludleth get to Firelink Shrine after Linking the Fire IF HE HAD NO FUCKING LEGS?

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>>168261667

the ashen one who would become the soul of cinder literally put him there

>>168261970
OH FUCK

I never realized that shit before

>>168261314
I summoned Gael specifically because of that three phase bullshit.

He does a pretty good job of drawing Friede's attention during the second phase so you can slap the gimp to death without having to worry.

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>>168261171
>when it happens to you

>>168261314

welcome to the entirety of the ringed city

every boss has 3 phases, except mother of dragons

she has 6 phases

>>168262173
>behind the back

god damn I wouldn't even be mad at that

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>>168261970
>the ashen one who would become the soul of cinder
soul of cider is not an ashen one

>>168261667

I'll bet Ludleth didn't even Link the Fire. There's no lore on Courland, we don't know what the Soulfeeder was. We get no message from killing him, and he isn't strong. He says he will die a colossus, but we have no clue what he meant by that. What's his deal?

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>>168262223
In all my Funsword use I still haven't gotten one. Plenty of sweet blind parries though.

>Can equip way of blue in the middle of an invasion

Feel like this isn't really fair but then again otherwise blueberries would never get summoned.

>>168261970
>Ashen One

Did you not fucking read the Soul of Lords description? SoC isn't a single person, it's a manifestation of EVERYONE who has ever linked the flame.

>>168262390
you can do this??

I always put on way of blue when I summon a phantom

>>168261970

Oh shit. You're right. He dragged him back just like the Ashen One drags the others back. But what happened to the dude? Why is he a manifestation now?

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>>168262387
the best type of parry is the five-seconds-before-they-actually-attack parry

>>168262228

ashen ones are previous linkers of the flame who are brought back when not even the undead succeed

they collect the shit they need to collect, and then link the flame

when you link the flame, your soul merges with the soul of lords, which then inhabits your body

when you link the flame in-game, you become the new soul of cinder, or at least your body does.

the soul of cinder, in the game, is the body of the guy who linked the flame in the cycle just before yours. the guy that we can see fucking around with corpses in the intro sequence.

my theory is that this guy who is probably our dark souls 1 protag because fanservice got to experience first-hand all the other lords fucking off to eat people or murder each other or whatever the fuck they did, so when he finally managed to link the flame he put ludleth on his throne and chopped his legs off to make the next guys job a little bit easier.

that's what Ludleth is crying about when he's sleeping, the lord of the previous cycle abusing him like a ragdoll and then setting him on fire.

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>Lightning Storm
>It's not the thing SoC does in Phase 2 where he shoots up 1 spear and a fuck ton of thunder spears come raining down
>Instead it's some low-tier looking miracle where some poor quality lightning balls go across the ground

>>168261667
>Why wasn't Gwyn brought back?
because Gwyn actually linked the fire and there appeared within the manifestation of the first flame rather than wake up on his own. The biggest part of that manifestation too

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>Valorheart vs Washing Pole Running Attack spammers

Oh my god it's like they can't understand any other strategy no matter how many times they lose a trade because of it.

>slap my sign down outside Pontiff
>get summoned by a host who wants to duel
>Farron Legion Armor
>Dark Sword + Target Shield
>spams parry whenever I'm near him
>never once manages to get it
>continues until I kill him

When was the last time you encountered a manifested meme

>>168261970

Can anyone tell what's in the background there? What architecture is that?

>>168262662
>>168262420

read >>168262738

when you link the fire you merge with the soul of lords, which then inhabits your body.

before linking the fire, the BODY of the soul of cinder was an ashen one.

>>168261667
>why were all the lands of yhe Lords brought together but not Gwyn's and Ludleths?
Because Ludleth is voluntarily sitting on the throne already.
>why wasn't Gwyn brought back?
Because he was killed and his power absorbed a million times by various Chosen Undeads?
Besides the fact that he's already in the personification of all the people who ever linked the fire in the first place, the Soul of Cinder.

Ludleth cut his legs off WHILE SITTING ON THE THRONE.

>>168262901
>Armor of the Soul of Cinder, a deific manifestation of the Lords of Cinder, who linked the First Flame.

>It exists as a symbol of the great Lords and the noble act of linking the fire, though it is no more than an empty husk

Except it's not.

>>168262738
No
>Since Lord Gwyn, the first Lord of Cinder, many exalted lords have linked the First Flame, and it is their very souls that have manifested themselves as defender of the flame.

>>168262782
Oh okay. Guess I'll just quality my shit up I guess
Thanks for the help. I can never get the details for the scaling down in any of the games.

>>168262817

you literally can't tell, but almost every other part of the intro takes place at the fire shrine.

>>168262751
>>168262901

But that doesn't explain the other Lords of Cinder NOT in the Soul of Cinder.

>>168263056
>>168263220

well then could you kindly explain what said manifestation is doing dragging corpses and other types of fuckery?

>>168262738
Ludleth cut off his his own legs.

>>168261314
The first phase is barely even a phase c'mon now.

My personal gripe with the Friede fight is phase 2 which takes a million years and then you get into the third phase which is like Maria's super sayan mode with full health while you have none. In my opinion after you clear the second phase once, you don't have to do the first phase Friede or Ariandel anymore within that playthrough and continue with Friede second phase and third.

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>>168262793
Pretty recently

>>168263375
>2DEEP4UMEMEZAKIISAGENUIS

Basically that.

>>168263328

because you are an undead and undead can literally never die.

when someone comes after how many thousands of years, and kills you to take your mantle as the lord of cinder, you respawn at the last bonfire.

>>168263667
That doesn't answer the question.
Why all the guys that linked the fire came back?

>>168263436
>>168262903

literally tell me where in the game anyone even mentions ludleth's lack of legs, let alone the source of his leglessness. unless I've missed something, it was always left as a mystery.

>>168263483
>get summoned to help with Aldrich
>The Devourer
>Dark Armor + Corvian Scythe
>dies to phase one arrows

I need to start taking screenshots more often, the most autistic people play these fucking games.

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>Killing someone with Artorias Flip

There is no better feeling.

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>>168263328
If you mean the 4&ludleth, I don't really think they actually linked the fire. As for the rest, the 4 playstyles are what prevailed out the total of people who linked the fire
>>168263375
Literally cut content. We were supposed to do that too and the firelink set was originally pushed as the posterboy, under the name "red knight". At some point they realised they couldn't balance the mechanic, allowed you to make 1 bonfire (firelink) to make some use of the assets and kept the clip of SoC dragging the body because rule of cool. If Zullie is around, she might be able to show some of the animations that WOULD be used to drag coiled swords out of other bosses before the whole thing was scrapped

>>168263795

because the soul of cinder inhabits your body when you link it.

when the next undead/ashen one comes and kills the previous undead/ashen one who linked the fire, said undead/ashen one rises again. because undead can't die. ever. they literally cannot die, even if they're just ashes from having burned in the first flame for a thousand years.

hence, ashen one. made of ash.

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>>168262732
you're telling me?

>>168263940
The game says they linked the fire though.

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So which girl in dark soles has the best soles?

Is HONOR BRIDGE the only thing people do in Undead Match?

The brawls sound fun as fuck like when /dsg/ fcs went ffa, but I've never managed to get one.

>>168263905
I got summoned and ran face first without thinking into Aldrich just today and had that happen, it was only for Anri and I still felt embarrassed.

>>168263940
Is this the guy from the previous thread who was tweaking the original?
This is beautiful

>>168264012
Anon, answer the fucking question, why the lords of cinder who linked the fire aren't part of it then?

>>168263940

they explicitely linked the fire, only lothric did not link the fire

they came back because they are undead and undead cannot die. to proclaim that the first flame possesses a magical quality that permanently kills the one who links it is to, in the game world, create a fantasy of death.

nothing kills an undead, they just come back when the flame fades, no matter the circumstances.

>>168264039
>games kicks you offline if your frames dip too low
>lets you play with 3rd world ping

What the shit From.

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>>168258764

>>168264203

I'm literally telling you. the soul of cinder is an amalgamation of their souls, not their bodies, I'm not that guy.

their souls amalgamate into the soul of cinder, but when they are eventually dethroned their soulless body respawns somewhere as it has always done since the beginning of time.

>>168264068
The game also calls Lothric a LoC when he clearly hasn't linked the flame. I also wonder what the "unspeakable means" refers to.
>>168264176
:3
>>168264303
where is a chosen undead, then? not only gods linked the fire, the game basically calls them upstart lords.

>>168264125
No one plays FFA or Team Brawls on xbone anymore. I've only ever gotten 1v1 matches.

I've heard that brawls are full of casters who just steal kills with Chaos Bed Vestiges or Crystal Soul Spear. Would still like to try my luck in a big battle but the playlists are dead on xbone. Guess I'll have to wait until the DLC comes out...

>>168264487
By that logic, Gwyn and Chosen undead would be around somewhere else
>souless body
>drop their souls when you kill them

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>>168264039
>>168264342
you can turn down your settings but you can't change your third world internet

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>>168264093
Demon's soles > Dark soles

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>>168263910
you know nothing

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>>168263521
Unlike Kojima, Miyazaki doesn't spend a million years worldbuilding all the small details in his games so that everything is coherent / explained by something / connected so I feel like with Dark Souls people think that there's a hugely detailed backstory going on in the background with the most minute details of it laid out in Miyazaki's head and it's all just ready to come out together in a neat package somehow.

But the truth is that From is just winging it based on the feedback they've gotten from the previous titles / DLCs, they go with gameplay first and then work the story to fit the gameplay.

There's nothing wrong with what From is doing but From's vague way of storytelling falls apart when they are doing a direct sequel to something they weren't prepared to do a direct sequel to originally, especially when they had Kingsfieldsouls 2 in the middle with it's completely unrelated plot in the middle needlessly complicating things.

It's kind of like telling your wife you went out with your friends while you were actually fucking her best friend and you thought up a story that covers your ass to a certain point of the night but then she asks what happened after that and your story starts to fall apart because you hadn't thought of it all the way through.

>>168264408

>squatting

>>168264515

an ashen one is merely an undead who had linked the fire in a previous cycle, and became ashen. non-undead who link the fire obviously don't respawn, so people like gwyn never come back.

as far as the story is concerned, the game implies that either:

1. no undead rose up to link the flame, causing the ashen ones, previous linkers of the flame, to be forced from their graves

2. so many linking cycles have gone past that virtually no reasonable number of non-ashen undead exist, hence why all humanity you find is an ember, the pilgrims of londor burst into flaming butterflies, and there is an odd fascination with "the deep" that people seem to have almost forgotten what humanity is at this point in the games timeline.

hexers are a perfectly fun and viable dark souls three build!

>>168264915
Nowhere the game says Ashen ones liked the fire though

>>168264637

you should know from playing the game how easy it is to collect souls. you could probably step on a cockroach and get like, 50.

>>168265028
>hexers
Hexers don't exist in DS3 as well as hexes.

>>168264093
Priscilla.

>>168263804
I think it's in the Skull Ring description iirc.

>>168264915
>an ashen one is merely an undead who had linked the fire in a previous cycle
wrong

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>>168264669
laggy parries I guess

>>168265038

you'd have to be pretty mentally challenged to not understand what an ashen one is when the game explicitly points out that lords of cinder and ashen ones are basically the same goddamn thing.

>>168265042
I mean the boss souls, unique to them. O&S and Friede's boss fights even show using souls midfight to become stronger, so the one they drop is the original thing

>>168261667
Undead Settlement might be Courland since you just happen to find a Transposing kiln at the settlement manor.

>>168264637
>souless gwyn and CU bodies
Nah, you kill Gwyn's living corpse in DS1, and it probably happened to CU in the next linking. And anyone who goes through the Dark Lord ending kills the previous linker and leaves the fire open for anyone else who wants to try burning themselves alive.

If DS1 is supposed to be the ur example then the Soul of Cinder only the soul and body of Gwyn to work with. Next time around it's Gwyn+CU in the body of CU, or Solaire if you believe Miyazaki.

>>168265149

>the lords of cinder rise from the cemetery of ash

>the fucking player character rises from the cemetery of ash

>not a previous linker of the fire

then what are you if not? when in all aspects but name they are the same goddamn thing? would you prefer me to go speak to vaati so he can make a video for you so you don't have to think?

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>>168265167

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>>168265109
FUCK YOU THEY DON'T

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>>168263910
My personal "best feeling" is slam dunking someone with a Sunlight Spear on my faith build character. It's like they don't remember talismans have a poise tanking weapon art.

>>168264915

But Seathe was Undead, why didn't he come back?

>>168265420
This is a dark sorcery, not a hex.

>>168265298

the flow of time is convoluted

memezaki clearly didn't think it this far through and it's really not a big deal. undead who link the flame respawn, don't ruminate too hard over it.

>>168265234
Nowhere in the game are those two called the same thing

The intro even calls unkindled unfit to even be cinder and you see how weakee they are when you compare an unkindled to their equivalent lord.

>>168265457
who's to say he didn't :^)

What sword ends up being more fun for PVE as well as PVP? Hollow Slayer or Onyx Blade? I'm currently running with the HS and it feels good but I'm wondering if I should build towards the OB cause it looks neat. Also general build suggestions accepted.

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>>168265457

he never died. what the fuck you think soul crystals are bitch?

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>>168265475
OH YEAH, DUMB GHRU?

THE FUCK IS THIS THEN

I've not played since release, is there anything that can defend against The Darkdrift yet?

>>168265484

Then why are we dead at the beginning of the game instead of walking around free? Why did the other Lords get resurrected at the same time if they're not Undead?

>>168265716

>implying anything
>A N Y T H I N G
>can defend against The Darkdrift

>>168265042
You don't get 50 individual souls, you get a numberized version of the strength of their soul.

>>168264487
What if the Ashen Ones and SoC are the people who linked the Fire by burning themselves up while the throne lords are omnes that linked the fire by sitting on a throne lile the Cursed Undead.

I'm getting hardly any summons for watchdogs at 34 +4, is +4 too high?

>>168265492

The unkindled one is often referred to as a Lord by npcs. there's like 5 different names for shit in this game, it's a mess.

>>168265665

He became books? Why would he care about immortality and the Primordial Crystal if he knew he couldn't die?

>>168265708
Sorcery of Manus, Father of the Abyss. Grant a fleeting will to the Dark of humanity, and volley the result.

>>168265810

1. undead only rise up when the fire is fading, that's been around since dark souls 1 please keep up

2. the lords of cinder you kill in the game rose up in the PREVIOUS cycle, the one before you. This gave them time to go and do whatever the fuck it is they did like meeting pontiff and eating gwyndolin.

>>168265374
nice strawman.
The abyss watchers are undead, you fucking idiot. You can see them where they lie dead and are revived. Why aren't they in the cemetary of ash? Did they get teleported back to headquarters?
>nameless undead unfit even to be cinder

>>168265912
Lord of londor/hollows which is different. Which NPCs even call you lord of cinder instead of ashen one or unkindled?

>>168265374
Well they don't rise at the same time. After the Lords fuck off all they have left are the Ashen Ones. And a bunch of the descriptions imply that the player character just died before even reaching the flame
>Knight description in the character creation screen
"An obscure knight of poor renown who collapsed roaming the land."
>Cleric description in the character creation screen
"A traveling cleric who collapsed from exhaustion."

Plus do we even know if all the Lords rose from graves in the Cemetery? Aldrich had a giant coffin in the Cathedral. And he was definitely there at some point or else the conversing lands of Lothric wouldn't have dragged both the Cathedral and Irythill towards it. It was an attempt to drag back the traitorous Lords remember.

>>168265963

the primordial crystal is why he can't die. anything to do with crystals is literally his soul, even if it's nothing but crazy-ass research. probably a really nice personal hell.

>>168265708
Anon, he's a retard who can't separate player terminology from in-game lore descriptions. Just ignore it.

>>168265810
The Lords got resurrected way earlier than the player tho'.

We even see Aldrich leave the graveyard but not chomping down queermo Gwyndolin's behind.

And Undead Legion of Farron is literally consisting of Undeads.

>>168265716
shields can
the only move that actually pierces guards is the WA

>>168265838

What definitely seems to be implied is that Gwyn couldn't Link the Fire on his own. He has some other supporters who gave their lives to him so he could toss himself until the Fire. After all, Ludleth DID say that while ceremony was a reenactment of the First time. But that doesn't make sense either. These new Lords aren't reincarnation of the original Lords...Though Aldrich screams Nito.

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>the best boss in the series was in dark souls 2
>the best covenant in the series was in dark souls 2
>the best spells in the series were in dark souls 2

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>>168266036
THAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LOOKY HERE

>>168266337
>the only move that actually pierces guards is the WA
That got changed in a patch. Several of its attacks pierce shields now, including the rolling attack. It just isn't good enough to make it worth using, is all.

>>168266349
I thought it was implied Gwyn was linking the fire multiple times, each one making himself weaker?

>>168266414
>based on an ancient sorcery
ds2 got the hex, ds3 got the original

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>>168266050

because they did rise from the cemetery of ash you retard, why don't you go rewatch the intro and see every single lord rising from the goddamn cemetery of ash.

outside of game mechanics, dark souls 3 implies that the undead "coming to life" is the same as a zombie, it just comes back to life. I'm assuming that the Lothric kingdom was putting undead corpses in the cemetery of ash during the age of fire, when undead don't rise, so they would rise there and see the shrine when the day came.

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The fallen knight chestpiece looks neat but the helmet looks retarded

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>>168266414
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
Who cares?

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>>168266164
>Plus do we even know if all the Lords rose from graves in the Cemetery? Aldrich had a giant coffin in the Cathedral.

coffins are ceremonial, you see him rise from the cemetery in the intro.

>>168266572
They rise when the bell tolls, though.

Not like 'normal' undead which rise at a bonfire or where they lay

>>168266607
>quality

What are you two even arguing about, anyways? You're literally talking about two different things as if one contradicts the other.

>>168265881
I was getting invaded by watchdogs earlier but my weapon is only +2

>>168266737

rising from a bonfire is a game mechanic. they are literally the "undead legion of farron, the abyss watchers".

>>168266572
how did they get to the farron keep then?

>>168266803
Hexes simply don't exist in DS3. Calling a dark caster builds in DS3 hexers is not correct, it's that simple.

>>168266414
DS2 is the only game that actually calls things hexes
it's a dark sorcery in ds1 and ds3

presumably Felkin and Co just spontaneously decided to start calling all their dark sorceries and dark miracles "Hexes", but they weren't important enough for anyone to remember them or keep doing it afterwards

>>168265881
+4 is fine but you're only going to connect to hosts that have a minimum of +2 where as if you really wanted to invade players just entering the area you shouldn't go past 3 since people enter the woods with a +1

>>168266737

the bell doesn't make them come to life, it's likely just some symbolic thing. "when the bell tolls, take your throne", and they do. They became disillusioned after that. the idea was that when the undead came to link the flame, there would already be five willing lord souls waiting for him like ludleth was.

Is it even possible to kill SoC with an ultra ?

>>168266986
Not surprising given that Felkin was just some autistic magic college reject.

>>168266920

with their legs.

>>168266937
>quality

>>168267052
No, this is absolutely wrong

If no one powerful enough links the flame, the bell awakens the Lords of Cinder to take their thrones and link the fire. When they don't want to (and who would? It's a pitiful end), ash seeketh embers and puts the lords on their thrones forcefully and links the flame.

What's the most overpowered pve build?

>Shield of Want and Dragonrider Bow are both found randomly in the same unrelated area and both require scales to upgrade despite not being boss weapons.
So these were definitely tied to the soul of a boss that got cut, and it was such a rushed, last-minute shuffle that they didn't even bother to change their upgrade path before just randomly throwing them into the Smouldering Lake as item pickups.

I wonder what boss they were originally planning to include with them.

Are the other 3 kings in DaS2 people like Vendrick who didn't take the throne?
Also is it a coincidence that there are 4 of them like the 4 kings in DaS1?

>>168267269
grind the enemies in the tutorial area until you hit level 802, then get a refined longsword and r1 all the bosses to death

>>168267272

>Dragonrider bow doesn't even have innate magic damage and INT scaling like in DaSII

>>168267189
Is that so? Could you please describe to me their course? The path from the grave to the keep?

>>168267272
there's not a single hint that ds2 garbage was tied to a boss
it's most likely the things lothric soldiers left after wiping out the demons

>>168267259
What happens when ash fails?

>inb4 they of ash never fail

>>168267272
Alternatively, they could've made them upgrade with scales to accurately depict their origin as boss weapons.

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>>168267462

>What happens when ash fails?

it links itself

What's a good dark souls 2 build? I tried out a strength build with mastodons halberd, it's really good but soul memory has made that character 100% worthless at anything besides PVE.

>>168267443

I dunno anon I'm not good with maps, I just know that I was walking around killing stuff and suddenly I got to the keep, so it must be possible somehow.

>>168267676
>What's a good dark souls 2 build?
99 in all stats

>>168267272
they're references to boss weapons in das2, is all

DS2 also had some non-boss-soul weapons that upgraded like boss weapons (the Black Dragon sword/axe/GS), and even a boss soul weapon + shield that upgraded with twinkling titanite

>>168267676
do >>168239582

>>168267676
What the fuck did you get your SM to?

>>168265028
In invasions maybe.

>>168267723
That's fine, anon-kun. We can just retrace the steps. Go backwards from the farron keep to the firelink shrine and see what exactly you need to do to get from firelink to the cemetary

>>168266363
>best covenant
Bellbros?

And it also had the worst matchmaking, worst lore, and the worst pve.

>>168267269
literally just Havel's greatshield

>>168267339
The Old Iron King is implied to be a vassal of Drangleic. Ivory is less concrete but still seems related to Drangleic in a similar way.
Sunken is completely unclear, though people speculate that the Drakeblood Knights were Drangleic-affiliated due to Yorgh's Ring, which would mean that Shulva wasn't Drangleic-affiliated but was destroyed by Drangleic.

The point of the kings, though, is that they're the 4 people who came the closest to becoming worthy of Linking the Fire, though none of them actually did. Aldia even says :but none of them have stood here (at the Throne of Want) as you do now."
Groups of 4 have significance in Japanese culture but it's just a cliche.

The concept behind the crowns work much better if you consider them originally being one crown and one power which Vendrick divided among loyal vassals. They all have the same jewel inset somewhere that seems to be the thing that their power comes from. 4 random unrelated crowns sharing a common design feature and coming together to produce some special effect doesn't really make sense.

>>168267339
The other three kings lived and died before Vendrick took the scene. Linking the fire might not've been a thing they had to worry about.

We know nothing about the sunken king, except that he didn't like sorcery and worshiped the sleeping dragon Sinh before he woke up and fucked everything. Elana was his abyss waifu and presumably had some hand in his kingdom going to shit because she wanted enough souls to wreck everything. According to an interview with Miyazaki whose exact source I can't remember (might be a Design Works one) she was slowly mooching off Sinh's soul and intended to use him to lay waste to the whole world. At some point either before or after that, Drakeblood Knights showed up and woke the dragon with a pointy spear that was supposed to kill him but didn't.

The iron king started as a lowly no-name king of a no-name land. He invited a bunch of travelers to show off what exotic fighting styles and shit they had for his army, but all of them were obvious fakes with one exception: Alonne from the east. The iron king became a massive weeb for Alonne's skilled swordplay and folded steel, and had the guy train an entire order of knights. Iron king either found, created, or took an iron smelter the size of an entire tower, which he used to mass produce steel, metal golems, and was even working on a giant metal dragon before his death. He had a magus named Eygil who animated them with strange pyromancies. Eygil wanted to give life and will to fire, and used this to bring the golems to life as supersoldiers. At least one of the golems rebelled and killed the king, and with the king's death his giant iron castle began sinking into the lava because he seriously was dumb enough to build his iron castle over the lava. As he sank into the lava, the iron king came face-to-face with one who "shouldn't be named" (supposedly Gwyn's burnt-ass soul), and somehow his own soul was bonded to his unfinished metal dragon. Alonne left before any of that, though.

>>168266363
if dark souls 2 wasn't so fucking ugly and clunky, it would probably be the best. Flawed still, but better. I'm a massive lorefag, which makes me dislike ds2 more, but fortunately lore doesn't really affect gameplay

>>168268409
>an interview with Miyazaki
He wasn't involved in 2 or its DLCs.

What does /dsg/ think of the dual wield weapons?

>>168268661
What do you think of an ant trying to kill a God?

>>168268409
>The other three kings lived and died before Vendrick took the scene
Ivory may be in the future.
>Another one slumbers still in a realm of Ice
could either mean he rests motionless (dead) or is still waiting (to be killed in the future)
Can you imagine if someone we knowbecomes the ivory king?

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I named my character Vlad and made him look like a spooky vampire, what's a good VLAD THE IMPLIER build? I'm thinking bleed + pokey stuff + magic.

>>168268661
It's fun to have L1 movesets
Twinblades are neat and have a unique playstyle. They're great for invasions since their combos hit hard but terrible in duels since they are hardcountered by most of the top-tier weapons crutched on by shitters, like straightswords and 2H curved swords
Gotthard's are actually fun to use now that they aren't "rolling attack: the weapon: anymore. Probably the least boring straightsword to use, but still a straightsword.
Most of the other paired weapons are ass because either their stats suck, their moveset sucks, or their stats and moveset suck. Most of them seem to have received next to no development effort.

>>168268661
Fun. Warden Twinblades are badass, even if the weeb swors totally outclass them in damage

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Returning from a long DS3 break and checking out the first DLC here, are the crow's quills any good? Seems like a nice lil dex weapon, are they used much in pvp?

>>168267339
>>168268409
>too much loreshit for one post

With Alonne gone, the iron king started getting stupid and reckless. He'd been living a life of luxury after all his successes (which Alonne was supposedly largely responsible for) and without his best man he didn't last long. Nadalia was the iron king's abyss waifu, except she fucked up and didn't arrive until well after he'd been dead. She was all sad and shit, so she danced herself to ashes and effectively possessed the entire fucking tower. The place came to be known as Brume Tower for all the ash. Raime moved in after rebelling from Vendrick and getting his ass kicked by Velstadt. Without a king, he found a new queen in Nadalia and all the power of the abyss she offered.

Ivory king had none of the issues the other kings did. He was a stone cold badass who did nothing wrong. He built his castle's throne room directly over the gate to chaos, so he and his knights could serve as the first line of defense against the demons coming from it. He had seven giant magic frost tigers, an order of magical ice knights, he had golems like Vendrick and the iron king (but made of ice), just all kinds of shit. When his abyss waifu Alsanna showed up, she was supposed to fuck him over like all the others but he was way smarter than that. Ivory king knew what she was and taught her to be good instead. When he knew he couldn't hold against chaos any longer, he and his knights went down there personally to fight it and had Alsanna close the door after him. With enough ice to lock down the entire castle, apparently.

That's about it, as far as I know.

>>168268829
Could it be Solaire? After you kill him he goes hollow, loses his entire armor and forgets his name becoming the Nameless King.

>>168268863
Which game? And why would Vlad be using magic when he could shove a giant stake up your ass instead?

Are we likely to get any more info on the DLC before it drops? Weapons, armor and spells specifically?

>>168269072
The quills are a pure dex weapon (one of the few that isn't straight better quality) and the highest AR of all the thrusting swords.

Their L1 moveset (the thing that makes them unique) is useless in pvp because the first L1 doesn't combo into the second, nor the second to the 3rd. You can't even go R1->L1 as a true combo. Anything other than R1->R1 leaves just enough of a gap for your opponent to mash a parry, meaning it's never safe to use any of the unique attacks.

The WA is also worthless because it's just a throwing knife with double the stamina cost, a long animation and less damage/tracking.

They see a lot of use in pvp, but exclusively 1H and paired with a BK shield. basically the estoc turtle 2.0

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>>168268863
dual rouged warden blades
pontiff eye rings
aldritch ruby
OWCS on back
maybe carthus beacon
>>168269203
don't be ridiculous, solaire is the sandworm

>>168269072

They're probably the best thrusting sword in the game. High critical damage, fun moveset, only a little bit shorter than Estoc/CSR-- It has a lot of things going for it.

In PvP, though, you can't really make use of its flashier moves, but that's par the course for Souls games.

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man the buildup to demon of song is really good
too bad the actual boss was nothing to write home about

>>168269072
You know how refined is better than anything else and sharp/heavy are shit compared to it? Crow Quills are better as sharp and Millwood Battle Axe is better as heavy.

Yes, they get used often.>>168269203
>After you kill him
When did that happen? Last I checked, he fought Gwyn with CU and became the sun.

Andre came back though, so it might not be impossible for him to, as well. He might be the one who left his covenant icon and talisman behind by those soup bowls, as well.

>>168269281
Dark Souls 2, I dunno, Vlad seems smart enough to me, holding off all those fucking t*rks.

>>168269072

If anyone wants to see this webm with sound, it's over here >>1518384

>>168269587
>dark souls 2
DONT. if you really have to, i think the best bleed combo is bleed ashen warrior sword left hand, serum'd ashen warrior sword onhand, powerstanced

>>168268409

I've tried to make sense of the whole DaS 2 and beginning with the thing in which no one is really sure if it happen in Lordran or another country or far away in the future or somewhere in between. I wonder, really.
But the lore was overwhelmingly vague that in fact might be, easily, just another game with no connections and make sense on their own and i more comfortable with that.

>>168269779
Oh okay. This game is dogshit so I don't really care. What's the most gamebreaking overpowered tryhard build there is?

Guys I'm bored.

>>168264039
N-NANI?!?!

>>168269516
That's the Solaire from the future, here's his timeline: Solaire -bug on head-> Sandworm -killed and sent up and into the past-> Ivory King -killed, loses armor and memory-> Nameless King -killed and sent into the far past, finds the First Flame by accident-> Gwyn -links the flame-> Solaire from the future -links the flame again.

>>168270082
What?

>>168270082
dude he's just some guy who likes the sun

>>168269943
Me too

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>>168264039

>>168269878
pve? RoB SO Leo Flynn rapier (+Cloranthy+2 because fuck ds2 stam regen). when you get sunlight blade and high enough faith, slap it on your rapier and make it lighting.
>>168269653
that's not how it works, you're linking a long deleted /vg/ post. you need to do this >>>[board you want to link to(I imagine /gif/ or /wsg/) with the slashes][post number]

>>168269813
Dark Souls 2 lore had so many issues on release that they actually tried to fix it in a patch. What you're seeing in the game is the improved version. No, really, it was worse.

DaS2's problem is that it tries to reference things from DaS1, but separates and isolates too much rather than going into or even just implying the connections between things. That's how I can tell you so much about each of the individual kings, but if you asked me what all of that had to do with anything I wouldn't be able to say shit. You'd get a sentence like "well, sometimes the abyss sends waifus out to metaphorically and literally fuck rich old kings". They never bother to explain the why of anything, only the what. Which is funny, because they advertised the game by saying it was going to answer a lot of questions.

I remain convinced that Pilgrims of Dark covenant was supposed to foreshadow Dark Souls 3. Either that, or Miyazaki took the idea and ran really, really far with it. Would explain why it seemed to have fuck all to do with the game it was in but they kept saying it was important somehow.

What'd you think the leaked bosses were like before they were seen?

I thought Aldrich would be like a giant elbow squid.

>>168270082
I really hope you're trolling bro. Nameless King is an original character designed to put the Solaire = Firstborn theory to rest once and for all.

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>>168270082
at which point did he get petrified and dragged to that cave in harvest valley?

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Fighting my way against skeletons in the catacombs made me realize how casualized the new games are.

>>168270242
Ok I'll try it again. Thank you btw for actually trying to help me in detail and not just greentexting that I'm retarded.

>>>/wsg/1518384

>>168270082
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>>168270448
>le loud is funny meme
you make me wish I hadn't

>>168270417
>abyss watchers = 4kings+artorias
>aldrich = pus of man from the trailer
>yhorm = giant lord except on fire

I was actually kind of disappointed with the real ones.

>>168270514
Nah if it was Vaati he would have fit Velka and Allfather Lloyd in there also.

>>168270571
Hey, all I said was that it's the webm with sound.

>>168268863
play bloodborne and use stake driver

>>168268949
warden twinblades are good for the bleed meme

twin weapon means you're building bleed twice as fast

>>168270585
Abyss Watchers and the princes were legit great fights and characters though. AW's connection to Artorias is explicit and well done imho.

I will totally concur re: Aldrich and Yhorm though, both are dogshit and wasted potential.

>>168270242
The most far fetched thing i've heard was that if the whole Solaire quest was made and helped you defeat Gwyn, he came back to his world and linked the fire, and that seemed like a really big supposition. And that he was the firstborn, but it's good that point was answered, and turned out he was just a really strong guy who enjoyed cooperation and watch the sun all day.

>>168269386
only the damage pontiffeye is worth anything
the healing eye is like 30hp, garbo in pvp and only useful for something like Deacons bossfight
meanwhile the OWCS on your back heals for 120 at the same point where the pontiff's left eye would heal 30

>>168270914

it's pretty clear the only had half a game and stitched it together.

>>168270928
>The most far fetched thing i've heard was that if the whole Solaire quest was made and helped you defeat Gwyn, he came back to his world and linked the fire, and that seemed like a really big supposition.
Yeah, that's miyazaki's headcanon

>>168270242
>pve rapier
>no stone ring
what did he mean by this

>>168270993
Yeah. At the end of the day it has a lot of the same problems as DS2, DS3 just fits together a little better and has some non-terrible lore. The lack of content is pretty bad though.

>>168270928
>The most far fetched thing i've heard was that if the whole Solaire quest was made and helped you defeat Gwyn, he came back to his world and linked the fire
Literally straight from the Design Works interview with Miyazaki, you dumbass.

>>168270362
i was expecting aldritch to be some gigantic mass of primal goo from the cutscenes earlier in the game
p. disappointed to find out that he was just a car-sized lump with a trap glued to the top
i wanted something like 10x bigger

>>168271252
To be fair I think the liquid/goo that coats the base of that boss fight room is all actually Aldrich's body. They just didn't actually do anything with it.

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>When your weaponfu from 2 isn't in the new game
At least the Black Knight sword will always be in.

>>168270914
Aw were a joke.
The concept (1st phase multiboss FFA clusterfuck with 1v1 2nd phase) was solid, but the execution was terrible for a number of reasons.

Vacuum backstabs against a boss who leaves their back open with literally every attack and whose evasive action can be interrupted with a backstab (it teleports them into the animation)
0 poise but also inconsistent HA on their attacks (some attacks no HA, some have only a little that starts way too late, some start it instantly) which means you can mash R1 and continually interrupt them and beat their attacks out because yours are straight faster
Can be knockdown chained to death with any forced-knockdown attack (charged ultra R2s, knockdown WAs, etc.) because they have a slow and vulnerable wakeup
They spam an evasive action that doesn't have iframes or effectively evade anything
Their AI bugs out against ranged attacks because they try to dodge (but can't because their evasive action sucks) and get trapped in a loop.
Easily parried.

Any of these things would be damaging to the fight, but all of them together turns it into an absolute joke. Every single mechanic of the AW fight serves to trivialize it in a different way, and none of them in interesting or engaging paradigms.

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Vlad is back, but this time it will be different, this time I'm going FAITH and LIGHTNING. Is it possible for me to LARP as a LIGHTNING templar FAITH STRENGTH faggot and still dumpster kids in SoTFS PVP?

What armor, miracles, weapon and shield should I use to minmax for the most efficiency?

Thanks in advance, this game is fucking huge and it's nigh impossible for me to figure it out.

>>168271398
>FTH
>SotFS
I have bad news for you

>>168271685
Alright fuck it. Build me a character that's overpowered as fuck cause obviously blood and light are dogshit.

>>168271124
I find that out that most enemies that don't stagger after 2 2handed rapier stabs are slow enough to hit and quit
>>168270989
I had a vamp build in mind, wasn't going for minmaxing

>>168271372
Good chance of Blue Flame coming back in the DLC

Going by the content we've already seen and the patterns from the first DLC, we're getting at least 1 new sorcery-casting weapon in the Ringed City, and they've already showed their hand with piles of shameless DaS2 throwbacks.

5 bucks says we get the Blue Flame as sorcery-casting paired straightswords.

>>168271398
>faith strength
us ethe SANCTUM MACE
and then cast EHEAVNELY THUNDER
on people who you knock onto the GROUND

>>168271685
Still miles better than DaS3 Faith.

>>168272003
fuck it i'm doing the poison sanctum mace build

>>168272092
just remember to Git Gud at backstepping
it has iframes in das2

>>168271372
Cleric's candlestick. Aquamarine dagger soon

>>168260531
I really want to kick Miyazaki's ass for all the dumb shit that went into covenants this time around.

I don't understand why some shit is limited per playthrough

especially shit like slabs or respecs

it's not like having 15 +10 weapons would make your character any stronger than having 2 +10 weapons would.

>>168272503
They want you to go into NG+ and summon people more. Dark Souls 1, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne had issues with not enough people being hosts, which is a required part of the multiplayer. Dark Souls 2 sidestepped the problem entirely with bonfire ascetics and hosts being invadable even when the boss was dead, but they didn't bring that back in Dark Souls 3 for reasons nobody understands.

>>168272503
>>168272648
Also, Miyazaki has gone on record saying he doesn't understand why people PvP at such a low level as SL120.

Take that how you will.

>>168268435
>I'm a massive lorefag, which makes me dislike ds2 more
I don't see how. DS2 lore is largely unrelated to DS1/3. It's kinda like the Walking Dead in that it's the tale of someone wholly unrelated to the main story having his own adventures with the curse of undeath.

That's what makes it good.

>CEing in titanite slabs or changing appearance is banworthy
>cursing people at 5x speed with infinite i-frames isn't
Bravo, FROM. Cursers aren't the problem, it's those people with 12 or more slabbed weapons before NG+ and people who change their appearance often.

>>168272503
They severely limited upgrade materials based on area, I'm not surprised at what they did to Slabs.

Respecs I'm less unhappy about, there's nothing wrong with starting a new character rather than respeccing. Worst case, you might need a few attempts to fix your face because of how shitty the character creator is, but that's not so bad given that the option was never present in previous games.

>>168270431
I know right? Its fucking challenging.

>>168272806
I'm pretty sure that resetting your rebirth count isn't detectable either. Adds an extra step between that and CEing in Tongues.

>>168272823
upgrade materials limited based on area is fine to me
better than ds2's system where you would just get a +10 weapon as soon as you met the bell covenant which is like 3 bosses in

>>168272806
you can just use CE to have the +10 upgrade cost 0 slabs though IIRC

>>168272775
>there are still people who think dark souls 2 isn't canon

You know you're wrong when Miyazaki goes out of his way to talk about how the DLC is a series of rings going further and further into the land's past just so he can show that Dark Souls 2 was, in fact, a part of the timeline.

That's actually worse than the time he included that NPC in TOH specifically to show that the Blood comes from veins and isn't menstrual blood.

>>168270431
I think they've gotten harder honestly, but that could just be my decreasing familiarity to newer entries. In any case I do miss mechanics like the this, it was neat having to take down as many skellies as I could at once before making a mad dash to the necromancer. Far better than just having a few arbitrarily res once or twice.

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this game aged LIKE FUCKING WINE

>>168272775
DaS2's lore was shoddy and poorly integrated into the game. It has large and frequent gaps left by the troubled development cycle, only loose relationships between most areas and lots of important details that are left to vague insinuation that errs hard on the side of "we implied that there's something here but gave no clues or indications whatsoever"

The rushed development clearly affected the coherency of the lore as well as its presentation, and both are the weakest in the series, even if some of the ideas that they hint at are pretty cool.

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>>168272806
>changing appearance is banworthy

I knew those thick thighs would come back to haunt me.

>>168270514
C Y C L E S
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>>168270172
This

>>168273352
seriously is there an option to turn off that pvp watchdog text in the corner
that would trigger the fuck out of me if i was playing

>>168273620
Yes there is

>>168273459
TOO THICK GAIJIN

>>168263056
You might both be right. That is in fact, what the Soul of Cinder is. But it might take on the appearance of whomever was the last to link the fire.

Alternatively, it might be possible that SoC can leave the flame for some short distance, and that the act of delivering Ludleth to Firelink can be interpreted as "defending" the flame.

>>168273459
Just take some screenshots and make some webms then change them back to what they were before you edited them or rollback your save.
Don't forget to post the screenshots

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/60399
Poison meme sanctum build, any thoughts for better armor or a different shield?

>>168274208
>6 faith
where's the heavenly thunder
more importantly, where's the perseverance
you're never gonna spam spin2win without poisoning yourself without that

>>168273352
Eh, the artstyle is good for masking how fucked the graphics are.

>>168274208
>no butterfly set pieces
>>168274391
Wouldn't some firestorm variant be better?

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>>168274520
For some reason it looks better than DaS3 for me. The graphics are technically worse but it just looks good for some reason.

>>168274551
firestorm is slower to cast and doesn't persist after the cast animation ends
your enemy will have time to react by rolling out or just backstabbing you

heavenly thunder casts faster and keeps doing damage after the animation ends, so even if people roll to avoid the lightning you are free to rollcatch them with your weapon

idk how scraps of life compares, it might be good too

>>168274551
THIS SURE IS A LOT OF WORK FOR A GAME THAT'S FUCKING DOGSHIT

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>>168274196
Just for you anon

>>168258764
can this reddit kid fuck off and stop making threads with their gank squad shit?

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>>168272806
I think I might have met a curser like 5 minutes ago. He touched me and I got insta-cursed. Is that what happens?

>>168275417
>not making your own OP when the threads hit 750
It's your own fault if you get triggered by the OP images.

>>168264840
>From's vague way of storytelling
But anon dark souls storytelling is simple and straightforward.

Hey guys. My friends and I want to do a 4 player fight club, but we can't summon the fourth person. The host even used dried fingers, but still can't get the summon. Anyone know why

>>168275790
Or perhaps...

>>168275890
I banned him

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I want to play more fromshit. Which armored core game should I start with?

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>>168275417
>he gets triggered by ganksquads
>he whines about how others use dishonorabu tactics and dont follow his precious cyber-bushido
>>>/reddit/

>>168276090
If you liked DaS3 and BB more, start with 4 and then 4A
If you liked DaS1 more, start with ACVD (skip V, it's shit)
If you like DaS2 the best, start with 3 through to LR, and then work your way backwards through the series from there.

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>>168276090
you should play spelunky
a games journalist told me it was darksouls

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>>168276236
Thanks

Damn I'm having fun with this crazy adventure. Piecing together the story is great and I'm finally getting used to the combat. Accepting that I can't block and that I just roll all the time thanks to BB has made things easier. Dodging everything seems like a legitimate strategy.

Anyway, I went outside the fog wall at the shrine and found that some asshole locked me in the tower. Said he was gonna steal all my shit. I went around to find him and he was gone. Who the fuck is that and where can I find him to kick his ass?

>>168276284
Is there a Dark Souls of persona games?

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>>168276349
Friend, I have just the game for you.

>>168276119
kys kid
>>>/reddit/

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>>168276496
honor is literally for beta cucks, anon

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>>168276496
>honor

Ganks would be doable if the hosts couldn't resummon forever.

>>168276656
>anime cancer
>spewing words like cucks
>actually defending ganking
honestly drink bleach reddit cancer

also by the looks of it that was a chan-organized ganksquad
specifically organized to bully some eceleb's anti-ganksquad "bloodshade" meme clan

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>>168277039
>posting on an anime imageboard but not liking anime
>not subscribing to the thinking man's fetish
>getting buttmad over being trolled in videogames

>>168277058
It was redditcucks who pretend to be dsg who made the counter ganks also literally only PCucks did that shit like this kid>>168277204

>>168276284
In a spectacular display of irony, that article mentions a game that lures you in under false pretenses when the game it's describing sounds like the least Dark Souls thing ever.

>>168277242
>it was redditors who got together to bully redditors

You know reddit's an actual thing and not just a meme-insult right?

>>168276875
Ganks would also be doable if invaders could choose to co-op so that their attacks and spells can't hurt each other and can heal each other.
And if there were a way to inflict the reverse on a host and his phantoms.
And if Seed weren't usable if a host already has phantoms (and vice versa).
And a bunch of other things.

>>168277392
>responding to the Peacock poster
Anon...

>>168277392
yes
>attaching the word meme to literally everything you said
and youre one of the redditcancers like this cancer too
>>168277507
honestly kill yourself PCucks

>>168277507
itym "peacuck"

>>168277478
They really fucked it up this time. Adding seeds on top of all the other bullshit was probably the biggest bitch move from ever added. They aren't hard to get either.

>>168263910

The best feeling is stomp WA on Onigiri fags while they're doing muh edgy jump

Does not open from this side

>>168276338
HALP

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>>168277778
does stomp do enough poise damage to knock them out of it?

>>168277939
He's on the top level inside the shrine, at the end of the corridor you left through to get to the outside. Can't miss it.
Spoonfeeding in the interest of getting Patches killed

>>168277961

The stomp makes you immovable and the followup sends them flying

>>168277961
Stomp (the first part) is headshot-immune, so their faggy little weebjump can't break your HA like it does with fucking everything else. The followup probably won't interrupt the weebjump midair since it has like 30 innate poise, but you'll typically catch them in the recovery so long as the connection isn't shit

>>168278134
At least he's not a spider this time. That was really creepy.

>>168275417
Did you seriously think that post was funny at all and was worth posting? If so you live a pathetic life, fucking grow up.

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>>168278361
You rang?

>>168274719
Because DaS1 has color while DaS3 is GREYGREYGREY

>>168278560
Fuck you, mang.

>>168278778
Oh doubt me not, sweet compeer. What is friendship but a chance encounter?

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>>168258764
>/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Perfect, cool, just a quick question:

Was the Darkmoon Covenant ever fucking fixed????

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>>168279137
No

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why did I ever stop playing this

this game is so much better than the others

>>168279137
Only doing my first Dorkmoon right now so other than the bitching at launch I've no idea how bad it really was, but after following someone's advice of re-equipping the item every 10 minutes or so I've been getting summons pretty often, at least when at around SL 30-40.

>>168279137
literally just cheat the ears in

>>168279137
Well as far as anecdotal evidence goes, I seem to at least be getting summoned now, while for the first 200 and so hours of this game I haven't been summoned once. But it's still not as often as I'd like

>>168279257
No it's not, even DeS is a better overall experience.

>>168279338
I've been trying this at SL 55 but haven't had any luck yet.

>>168279257
Get the lordvessel and you will know why.

>>168278501
Did you seriously think that post was funny at all and was worth posting? If so you live a pathetic life, fucking grow up.

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>>168258764
could love bloom even on the battlefield?

>>168280331
Siegward is saving himself for Yhorm

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>>168280193
on another note, I don't know why I had so many fond memories of the DaS1 greataxe. It's the worst one of all souls games.

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>>168280406
I guess that's why he takes off all his armor after you beat him.

>>168261185
>the profaned flame that sulyvahn found, the one that never fades, what if it's the pygmy's lord soul?
The Profaned flame is an abyssal flame.
Andre says as much when you bring him the profane coal.
>the cathedral of the deep directly references the pilgrims and their "butterflies" that burst from their back, the butterflies instead of being generic dark actually being on fucking fire.
I think the statue you are seeing is Aldrich transforming into his blob monster form, not the pilgrim butterflies.

>>168261970
Early in DSIII development, the plan was that you were able to make corpses from bonfires. This scene is probably a reference to that.

>>168280797

how does the flame being abyssal stop it from being the pygmy's flame when the abyss is in itself an aspect of the dark? the pygmy's lord soul would inherently be abyssal or dark in some way, even as a flame.

also it's not aldritch, they describe his transformation in pretty vivid detail. comparing him to a bloated pig.

the physical state of the pilgrims is pretty clearly a religious thing as evidenced by the multiple statues of people with warped backs and being consumed by angelic beings in the cathedral.

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Could I get a quick rundown on this guy?

>>168281043
I assume you mean bonfires from corpses. What a weird mechanic that would be though.

>>168278182
Only if their pose was drained enough beforehand so the R2 of Stomp breaks their poise mid-air

It did send them flying most of the time in pre 1.08 though

someone post the webm