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Actual Good OP Post Edition

>What's new?
Lucio is the next hero, will be released on Feb 13th
https://youtu.be/MRlkCiPVmII
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/3KTsPR2oeSE
>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529401/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-february-10-2017-temple-arena-2-9-2017
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532382/heroes-of-the-storm-hotfix-patch-notes-feb-8-2017-2-8-2017
>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529509/weekly-sale-feb-7-14-2017-2-7-2017
>WoW Event; Play Warcraft hero with friends for free mounts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/for-azeroth-2-6-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find join this Five Clown Fiesta?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

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>>168008336
Stitches or Cho'gall
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when?
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>>168008164

Soloqueuing as melee assassin outside of one that can cloak in QM is suicide.
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>>168009172
>Mal'ganis
>not Tichondrius
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>>168009450

>lorefags

pathetic
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>>168010007
>Hearthcucks
even more pathetic
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>tfw can't queue as Sonya/Zarya because blizzard don't know the difference between Warrior and Bruiser
>tfw can't queue as Greymane because no guarantee of a healer
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>Varian is the only warrior we'll ever get
>no Grom
>no Garrosh
>no Thoradin
>no Hymdall
why is this allowed?
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>>168009172
>>168009450
>not varimathras
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>zuljin gets autistically angry whenever rehgar's chain heal bounces to him
>encounter another zuljin who gets autistically angry whenever kharazim's trait/w heals him
I can't wait for this trashcan hero to leave the free rotation.
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>>168010570
>no Grom

You got Samuro which is the same shit
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>>168012458
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>>168012458
>Samuro has Gorehowl
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Li-Ming STILL remains a busted sack of shit and will remain so until Calamity gets a goddamned damage nerf (while simultaneously bringing back its ability to hurt minions, at maybe half effectiveness.)

Or maybe even causing a debuff where you can't be clipped by teleport repeatedly within a period of time so Illusionist and Critical Mass don't fuck over anyone with less health than a goddamned Diablo, of all people.

Seriously, there is no way for a good three-quarters of the cast to talent against le teleporty facemelt of slutitude.

Why yes, I'm mad. And also frothing at the mouth about Artanis, better known as a useful Stitches.
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>>168013393
Nigger just take Big Voodoo + Superstition on Nazeebo you fucking retard.
Congrats, you are now the hardest thing in the game for Li Ming to kill not named Anub'arak.
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>>168013393
>getting hit by Li-Ming spells as Chromie
>not taking Superstition as Nazeebo
????
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>>168013393
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>>168013558
>I'm the entire team.

Sorry, chuckles, not that immodest. I did take Superstition, and I tried to salvage it, but I had people constantly getting obliterated by her and Valeera.

I know full well HOW to counter her, but the fucking annoyance is that not every hero CAN, especially not the teleport build. Fuck, one of the earlier games I had yesterday was as Sonya talenting specifically to go after her blood and I still lost to her, namely because Malfaggotron wouldn't extract his roots from her ass,
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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New skins for best, cutest and strongest girl in this game when ? This woman is your friend, she shield you from invisible menace.
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>>168015387
cool, when are we getting Corki?
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>>168008164
>Actual Good OP Post Edition
ya got somethin' to say to me boy?
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>>168018327
just a nostalgiafag or someone from Overwatch General getting buttblasted by Lucio OPs
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How do I not be shit with Valeera?!
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>>168019072
what a shit drawing holy fuck
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>>168019356
I can still masturbate to it.
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>tfw WIIIIIINDS in HotS never
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>>168019885
Ragnaros' skin next time we get Luxoria themed bundle
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Falstad's lightning rod build is the top winrate on hotslog, has anyone tried it? Any good?
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anyone d3+ in TL who wants to embrace the suffering with me in eu? i can be your healslut
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Got 15k, who should i buy? or save for Lucio since i play mostly supports
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>>168020883
Probably just save for Lucio then if you like them the most. He'll be the last Support we get for a long while most likely, they rarely add Supports.
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Which hero ten out of ten valeeras absolutely hate to play against?
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>>168011416
>he plays with the chat on
you deserve much worse than this you pleb
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Jaina picked for the first time in Korea in months going on right now
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>>168022579
Probably the last they lost pretty badly despite getting 2 good combos off with zeras vp
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How do I get out of golden league hell?

It seems worse than the gold league in overwatch, because there

>people don't intentionally throw games
>are afk while picking
>argue 30 mins with each other and then go afk

Do I just mute everybody + ping and try my best or do I pick some kind of "soft solo carrier" (yeah, I know)?
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>>168022849
I dunno, they lost because the behold from behind took them completely by surprise. I don't think any comp would fare well against that.
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when do you pick a dps monk?
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>>168023307
DPS monk is always better.

People just go healing because they think that sacrificing mid to lategame power for early game healing is worth it.
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>/hotsg/ bronzie claims Valeera is super OP
>Valeera hasn't been picked yet
>Zeratul the hero I said is better than Valeera across the board has been picked
hmmm.....
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>>168023307
Always, Transcendence and Insight is shit.
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>>168023594
Can they actually pick Valeera though?
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When is Lucio released? next week?
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>>168023650
Correcting the record for you: insight Kharazim will outheal any support in the game.
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>>168023893
They're playing on the current patch so I assume so
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>>168023974
Tuesday
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Yeah insight khara consistently outheals even morales I fucking love him so much
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>>168023994
>>168024713
Insight Monk is good but you have 0 early game and a non-retard will make finishing the quest take years.
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Since April 26th we've had 3 Overwatch heroes released. In that same period we've had 2 Diablo and Starcraft heroes combined.

What the fuck Blizzard.
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>>168025134
If worst comes to worst during the laning phase you can just get camps and it's not exactly hard to get stacks. Besides Kharazim isn't exactly easy to kill.
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Consensus on Valla?
Is she worth playing? How is she played best?
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ah... the familiar scent of.... death......
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>>168025218
>Overwatch is a brand new game and is very popular
>Diablo and Starcraft came out in the early 2010s and are both dead
What else do you expect?
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>>168025134
I really do get why you would take iron fists in a pro setting and at higher levels, but at low levels you can easily stack insight by like 9 mins into the game and the raw healing output helps you keep the baddies who don't understand that walking out of the blizzard means that they'll stop getting hurt alive
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>>168025218
HotS has a pretty tight Hero-release-schedule, I imagine the Overwatch characters are just there to save time since its easy to port their models over. I mean look at the Lucio skin that is literally just a repurposed Overwatch-Skin
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>>168025597
She's the retard scrub's best assassin.
Low skill floor, low skill ceiling.
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>>168025285
Speaking of Monk- what do you guys usually take on 13? I've found that I really like the deadly reach duration increase given it lets you have 95% uptime on deadly reach with a fully stacked insight. I know that spell sheild and sixth sense can be situationally useful but is the dash speed ever really a good pick up? I feel like you can just dash in and W to get a move speed increase regardless of it.
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>>168025656
>Low skill floor, low skill ceiling.
That's Raynor.
Valla is advanced basics, so more like low skill floor, medium skill ceiling.
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I get why Blackhearts Bay is out by default at these Blizz tournaments.

But why are Haunted Mines and Garden of Terror out? I feel the new Mines is pretty fair and Garden of Terror never felt bad to me.
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>>168025857
old mines was unbalanced as fuck, but new mines is just a terrible version of BoE
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>>168025857
Garden is just a dull map- things liked having to B back to base to drive the plant artificially inflate the time it takes to do anything on the damn map. At least D shire has the obj in the middle of the map and the beacons make for some interesting counterplay
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>>168025857
>wondering why garden of terrible isn't in
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>Korean tournament
>Ragnaros can't see stealth
Absolutely disgusting
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>>168026491
>wasting time by watching other people play video games
pathetic
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>>168027220
I only put it on my 2nd monitor between match queues
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>>168025857
>I get why Blackhearts Bay is out
I don't follow high level play so I don't. Care to enlighten?
I have a 75% winrate on bay
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>>168028191
Snowballs harder than an avalanche.

If both teams have enough for a turn in and one wins the teamfight at ol' Blackheart, the losers just financed the winners second turn in. The destroyed structures give EXP, giving more advantage to those who already turned their coins in, and makes it way more dangerous to go out getting coins since there's no keeps to quickly retreat back to.
If you get a bit of leverage early on, it stays throughout the game and gets amplified a lot.

You can also throw that map hard, our tank lost 30 coins once and we couldn't stop them from just handing them in three times in a row even with two of their keeps destroyed. But that's rare, really.
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>>168009172
>>168009450
>>168010837
>not Balnazzar
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>Event ending soon
>I still need 12 more races

Oops
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>>168028430
Tichondrius is the most recently used dreadlord and arguably the most interesting lorewise (although most people would probably prefer Mal'ganis)
it'll be him, and he'll be a support
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>>168028389
>our tank lost 30 coins
>all eggs
>one basket
>HURRRR DURRRRRRR
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>>168028597
>not detheroc
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>>168028691
>not Jaina
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>>168025614
Sacrificing your early game this hard as support is never worth it.
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>>168009263
You are not prepared!!!11!!
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>>168025857
Garden games too long and Mines doesn't have an objective while being snowballey.
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>>168019072
Stun and reduce armor for your team.
Have your finger on R for CoS
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>valeera can kill nova in 2 seconds with 1.5 of those seconds being stun
>this is somehow fine
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>>168029329
>playing nova so unsafe a melee can creep up on you
LEL
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I'm gonna play Zul'jin in QM
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Here we post heroes who only have one ultimate. I'll start.
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>>168013393
>complaining about li ming of all things
>in quick match
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>>168029597
Tracer
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>>168025609
HEALING MAGIC...........................................................................................................................................................................
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>>168029597
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>>168029597
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>>168029982
driiiiiiiiink
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>>168029597
Banshee's have half the cooldown and are always stealthed by default.

Upgrade at 20 is that they have more damage and global cast range.

There, it's not sometimes worth considering.
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>Win 10 games in a row
>Suddenly start getting Abathurs on my team who take Monstrosity and dont bodysoak while still leaving themselves in easy to die locations
>Suddenly start getting teammates who die trying to solo camps
>Suddenly start getting teammates who always split push against zeratul and the hunt illidan
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I am so tired of meme faggots with their valeeras, which hero is valeeras biggest nightmare?
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>>168029982
Deals 200% extra damage against non-heroic targets.

At level 20, Rain of Destruction no longer needs to be channeled, but deals 20% less damage.

The random nature hurts this ult. It sucks for teamfights thus, because not only are you not dealing guaranteed damage, you're also stuck not using your other abilties. So make it useful for sieging instead, and the ult upgrade turns it into a proper teamfight ult.
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>>168030307
murky
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>>168030316
The problem is, it's spread out over far too large of an area and there aren't enough bolts to be useful. I've stood in his Rain of Fire and not moved and still not been hit.
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>>168030405
As I said, the random nature hurts. If you don't have to channel it and can still actively contribute, it becomes a truckload better as a zoning + DPS tool.
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>>168030381
are you stupid son?
valeera will explode murky in a nanosecond and then to stomp his blue fish balls even further he will use her cloak to pop his egg sitting near the enemy fort and walk away barely with a scratch
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>>168030307
Anyone with a skillshot to pop her out of stealth.
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>>168030307
Varian

or just playing a non-meme team like Rag Tychus ETC Malf Li Ming
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>>168030307
Leorics is all stealth heroes nightmare

Well maybe not Samuro, but everyone else.
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>>168029597
>>168029767
>bronze
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>>168029982
It's got electrolytes!
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>Abathur on my team takes bronztrosity
>Check their hotslogs
>Abathur most played winrate under 34%
Every single time
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>>168030828
>Abathur most played champiom
>winrate 74%

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Does this mean anything? That my QM league is apparently platinum? I could use the ego boost.
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>>168030828
Monstrosity's cooldown now begins the second it was used.
It takes 50% reduced damage from non-heroic sources.
Deep Tunnel is now baseline for it.

At Level 20, its cooldown is reduced by 40 seconds and the monstrosity gains stacks twice as fast. You can have multiple monstrosities at the same time.
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>>168030828
>tfw enemy team has that abathur and you still lose
Literally doesn't matter who is in your team or what they pick, the system already decided who wins
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>>168031027
It means you are bronze. Until it says master you are bronze.
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>>168031117
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>>168031049
If your level 20 idea were baseline too maybe it would be worth picking sometimes
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>win 3 games
>your teams are full of retards
Like clockwork

Why are people still picking shit like dual wield varian?
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>murky getting seriously buffed next patch
>suddenly QM has atleast one murky per game
Do these retards think he has already been changed?
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>>168031721
They want to be able to appreciate the changes you fucking nerd, get a life
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>>168028575
Just go do some bot games.

Also you don't need to win the races anymore, just complete them. How are you even behind?
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>>168019072
Go for ambush build (it's about 3.3k dmg burst in 1 second) in QM, its almost as fun as ganking lowbies in STV.
But the match must last long enough for you to get to 20
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>>168031721
Havent had a murky in the last ~60-80 matches.
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>zuljin dies 8 times in 8 minutes
>ragequits after last death
I guess this is what I get for winning too many games
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What the fuck is this?
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>>168032561
Good
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>>168029597
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>>168032561
The Edge of 10.000 years

This is what a blind person thinks looks cool. I love how those extra blades are literally just duct-taped to his regular ones.
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Did the wow promotion start already?
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>>168032561
He got fucked so hard by Maiev that his mind broke.
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>>168032561
People talk about how bad Leoric's master skin is, but they never seen this poo of elephant shit.
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>>168032976
There is nothing wrong with battle pope Leoric
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>>168030637
>>168030629
>>168030608
I was more thinking about revealers, like bw for example has that awesome think where he teleports somehwere and reveals all cloak shits
the problem is that i always get put into maps with 2 cloak shitters on the enemy team but when i play bw the enemy team NEVER has cloakers
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>>168032040
Honestly I thought someone in the game had to have the 200 gold quest for the event to trigger, and I've barely played recently
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>>168033109
If you think those types of abilities are what stops Valeera you don't know how to play the game
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>>168033196
when we have someone like morales with drones on our team the enemy valeera got a single kill during the entire match, vs 10 or more kills in different matches
any cloak breaker and valeera is useless
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>play a match
>two teammates disconnect
>play another match
>one teammate disconnects
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>>168032669
>some people take Longboat for "Teamfight utility"
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How sad it is when you are the best assassin on your entire team with a fucking not so bright wing
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>Play valla
>don't know what to go
I like her Q build but I don't know how good that is.
Its fun
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>>168033121
It's just RNG.

They increased the time the rooster stays and also you only have to complete it, not win.

You can solo it too basically now.
Go do it.
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>>168033121
Pretty sure it happens in every game
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Zeratul is so much better than Valeera
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Gorefiend when?
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>>168035868
Yeah but he doesn't have big fat elf tits.
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>>168035868
No he isn't.
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>>168035868
>Tfw regret the Valeera purchase after playing Zeratul once
Whoopsie
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Where is the option in the settings to not be matched into teams where the system expects me to carry bronzies?
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>>168036060
uninstall
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>>168035868
You can't really compare them

They are completely different heroes
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>>168035969
>Higher winrate
>Picked first in tournaments
>Stronger kit


>B-But he's not better! Muh 1.5 targeted!
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>>168036384
literally the only reason he is picked in tournaments is his void prison, rest of his kit are only jokes
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>>168036315
Exactly 1 is good the other isnt
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>>168036917
>He has by one of the most powerful heroics in the game
>B-But Valeera is better
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>>168037086
>comparing your bronzie quickies to coordinated competitive team play as basis to your argument
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>>168034992
I love the Q build
Its useless though so I never play Valla
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>>168037219
>It's impossible to combo anything outside of tournament!
>A stealth hero with a teleport isn't better than a stealth hero with no teleport in QM!
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>>168029705
DELETE THIS
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>>168037959
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>>168035868
You wouldn't fap to Zeratul
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>>168038345
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>>168030307
Raynor if you get scout drone but it requires practice, almost all her burst damage is just spell damage so get spell shield with any hero
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Is it even possible to lose in HL when you draft Tass and Tracer?
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>>168032976
Leoric's master skin is good anon.
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>>168032942
>ywn be raped and mindbroken by maiev
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>>168034951
>gold
>least hero dmg done means best assassin
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>>168039492
BUT I HAD NO DEATHS
IT DOESNT MATTER I ONLY USED MY E ON MYSELF TO RUN AWAY CONSTANTLY
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>>168038345
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>>168035021
>not shift-clicking

ha
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>>168040263
>there are people who don't z>shift-click
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Ability power/Blinding Wind or Serpent build on Lili?
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>your 3 stack is complete shit compared to their 4 stack

wow, so fun
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>>168041034
Her tree is incredibly versatile.
I find myself grabbing a few talents for blinding wind each game since aa is super popular these days.
Her block on fast feet talent is incredibly good against aa as well.
My personal favorite it pursuit, reduced cost on q, double q and kung fu hustle
Until you get to 20 you'll have more mana than you know what to do with, but at 20 you'll be casting so many spells you wont even have time to throw out an auto.
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lesser lifeforms be jelly
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>>168029767
>not squad boating your team around large maps stealing camps for the memes
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>>168042336
>basic skin colors all around
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>>168032942
>they made her a lesbian with naisha
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>>168042789
What
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BeGenius is such a sad fucking team
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>>168043815
impatient fucks, never should have core rushed. These throws are just hard to look at
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>It's a Varian goes Fury against a team with Johanna and Li Li when he was supposed to be your only warrior episode

We won, because they also drafted a split push Gazlowe but seriously what makes people think they can do this?
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>>168032525
>mfw I die 15 times in a game because I just keep making stupid decisions I know are dumb as I make them
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>>168044223
>Not getting all your dumb out of the way before level 4
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>>168044103
>melee attack focused heroes in a game without bkb

that never works
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>>168032561
Blizzard doesn't know how to not over design shit, especially when it comes to WoW. I know this is a warcraft character but he is done in the WoW style.
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>>168043815
Why are the french so bad in all games?
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>>168020883
>only 5 L10s
>murky, abathur, and nova are three of them
You are what's wrong with this game, by the way.
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>>168044963
The French are considered the best Soul Calibur players so hey that's something
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>>168044376
Ever since ~2010 Blizzard decided "just add spikes" was the best design philosophy for their games.
>that fucking spike sword
Like what are you even supposed to accomplish with that thing now?
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Why exactly are Morales and Zul'jin considered strong on Braxis?
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>>168046357
Small map.
Way more fighting, way less gank potential.
Neither of them have mobility but have large staying potential.
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>>168046075
I played nova and fgt.hammer for player icon.
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>>168044376
not as bad as illidan master
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One day I'll win with Sonya you'll see!
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>>168044376
Wow design is basicly rib off cultural features from the real world

>bm in WC3
you could fathom some japanese feature but it wasnt over done and actually nice

>bm in hots
STRG C, STRG V picture of some samurai and make colour the skin green
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How the fuck does he hold this up?
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>>168046892
Gyros.
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>>168047023
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Post em
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>>168047306
Yes those. They're like spinach for Gazlowe.
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>>168046189
I feel like that can't be true. Does Korea & Japan not play Soul Calibur?
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>>168044376
this skin is great and you have no taste
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>win every teamfight, but lose some buildings thanks to golems
>team gets cocky
>2 people overextend
>lose the game

Every time...
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>>168044376
Ironically enough Blizzard developed this design philosophy because of the software-limitations of WoW, where all armor were just textures EXCEPT helmets and shoulderpads, which in turn became increasingly big and complex since they were the only real outlet of visual design and power-level continuation

At least I think thats why they're so obsessed with huge shoulders and useless attachments, feel free to correct me.
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>>168047328
Master skin for everything above 10.
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>>168047996
Havent played WoW in ages but werent the belts also gigantic?
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>>168048318
Why would you not invest that gold in more heroes?
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>>168048645
Not him, but I've basically bought every single hero I'd ever have interest in playing.

I usually always have like 10k banked in case a new hero comes out that I like, but otherwise I just use that gold on skins.
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>>168048318
>level 20

Jesus. I guess if I stopped playing off and on I'd have more than one level ten.
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>>168047996
I was always under the impression that it was because those parts, along with gloves tend to be some of the more visible parts of a particular character in general play, and it just kinda evolved from the huge shoulders that were used to display team colors in Warcraft. You're not going to be seeing a whole lot of your chest when you're out murdering things, after all.
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>when you finish the 8 games daily and it still looks like this
five clown fiesta
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>>168048979
If you play with friends and have a stimpack it's actually not too bad, something like 200-300 games
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>>168048350
Boots, Gloves and belts also had some geometry-templates they applied textures to, but never anything complex, just 2-3 variations each which they painted over with different textures.
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>>168048645
Because I don't really enjoy playing anything but tanks.

Chen and Artanis I don't like too much but I'll probably buy Varian next and try him out.

Next investments Varian and master skins for Arthas and Diablo.

>>168048979
Playing for 1.5 years now. I've played a whole lot of Johanna. When I started she was all I played.
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>>168048318
>level 20 Johanna

masochist
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>>168051073
Now I find her boring af but I used to have a blast with her.
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>>168047328
I try to play anything that is below level 10 whenever I can, can spend all gold on master skins now at least
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>tfw no motivation to queue by myself
Kill me. I want to play but every time I boot the game I lose any interest.
How do I unfuck my shit
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>>168051953
Thats also my plan get everything to 10 and only buy masterskin with gold. They are mostely the best anyways
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I'm pretty new to this and all I ever play are Reh'gar and Johanna. It usually works since my group picks up the DPS/specialists, but I have run into a few cases where I needed to have a mage or assassin handy.

Are Tychus and Gul'Dan good ideas? I really like transforming characters like Tass and Illi, but is picking Odin a really dumb idea with the laser providing an extra body in teamfights? Is Gul'Dan a good pick if there's only one more damage dealer, or should I go for a more magic artillery character like Li Ming?
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>>168053198
Gul'dan and Tychus are both top picks. Odin is the better heroic in most cases except when there's a strong diver on the enemy team that goes for you all the time.

Tychus you can always pick. Gul'dan not so much but I'm pretty sure you're not at a level yet where it matters. Below masters Gul'dan is probably always good thanks to his strong waveclear.
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>>168053198
Gul'dan is a great depending on what you need, but Tychus is a pretty solid pick all around. Odin is great for teamfights, laser is more an interrupt ult.
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should i bother with this game or should i just download LoL? i hate dota since last patch
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>>168053696
This game doesn't need more shit players who can't think for themselves
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>>168053825
i see, full of cocky motherfuckers
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>>168053696
if you're looking for another farming simulator then league is your new home
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>>168053912
>one person replies with a cocky response
>'full of cocky players'
When you put it that way, sounds like he's right.
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>>168053696
what happened in that patch?
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>>168053912
Not just cocky motherfuckers, but people who also have no idea how to fucking manage their time between objectives, properly soaking experience from lane minions, and jungling when it's necessary. People need their fucking handheld so often it's insane. More often than not they end up trying to pick fights with the enemy team for absolutely no reason, as for the first 1/3rd of the game or so, kills yield less experience than minion waves, the only real benefit to it is trying to get them to miss out on exp soak.

However, this community is so fucking retarded they give up soaking on their own just to try and chase kills, so they themselves end up fucking their team up exp-wise. So then YOU have to try and make up for their mistakes, but while you're doing that, they're off being stupid fucks and making it worse. So it becomes a vicious cycle wherein a single person truly cannot carry unless the enemy team is absolutely retarded and does not capitalize at ALL on the mistakes of your teammates.
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>>168032561
Do you expect a blind person to know what looks good?
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>>168053501
>>168053628
Thanks guys! That was way more good news than I was expecting.
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>>168053912
>Any MOBA
>Any videogame
>Not full of cocky motherfuckers
Huh ?
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>>168054853
Esports were a mistake, Mr. Corgi.
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Why is Abathur stunned for almost 1.5 seconds after leaving symbiote? I don't remember it being this way.
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>>168054631
Below high masters people can neither draft nor shotcall nor play properly.
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How do I win games?
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>>168054631
I lost so many games because of incompetent tanks that I don't trust anyone on tank duty but myself, which I have mixed feelings about.

To make things worse my main warrior is not a tank
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>>168055281
Just be yourself
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>>168055938
It's getting me nowhere.
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>>168055281
play tyrande obviously
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>>168055281
dude lmao just play hl its where the real games are with the real playerswho REALLY try why bother with five clown fiesta modes bro like who care hl is where its really at bro thats where all the competent palyers go lmao
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>>168018198
Corki is the lol meme or the dota meme?
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>>168055938
Try to have a good time.
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>Queued into the same Brazilian premade 3 games in a row
At least we lost quickly
Why does Blizzard force us to play with these """"""""""people""""""""""""""""""???
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>>168058273
>losing against brazilians
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>>168058273
>losing to Brazilians
Strike one.
>playing in their region, American server
Strike two.
>complaining on a mongolian basket weaving website about it
And out, fuck off.
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>>168058380
>How to spot a Brazilian

He was matched with them, you soccer loving motherfucker, don't think we don't know.
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>>168058380
>>168058480
You misunderstand I was placed onto the 4 man Brazilian premade group
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>>168058480

im not him, but we dont have another server
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>>168008164

I really thought Team Expert could pull it off. A defeat like that must be really crushing.
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>>168059903
They probably could if they stopped with the meme comps
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How are you doing, anon?
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>>168060493
I'm never good, fuck off.

How are you though, man?
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>>168060493
I just finished the brawl, I'm doing good. Won 2 of them and the 3rd was 1:2. How come brawl is always filled with shitters who don't know what to pick. People who pick Kael over Raynor or Rain of Destruction over Horrify.

How are you anon?
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>>168060493
Angry, because I had an awful day when it comes to HOTS
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>>168060778
>>168060854
>>168060986
All's good, about to jump into Brawl after taking a shit. Glad to hear your day is going great!
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>>168025610
For them to release actual champions. Not two dykes and a nig frog.
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>>168034739
why is long boat bad?
i used to take it
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>>168061048
>Glad to hear your day is going great!
>When I clearly said in my post that I'm angry because of an awful day
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>>168061391
And I told him I'm never good.

Fucking optimists, man.
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>>168060493
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This FUCKING CUNT is getting his own special blog post
>plays valeera (figures)
>plays like total dogshit all game
>just stands around most of the time because he's scared to open
>a couple fights take place at our tower, still refuses to open, just sits there too scared to do anything
>has less siege and hero damage than tyrande at this point
>after the first 10 minutes of me telling him to grow a pair, suddenly does
>starts trying to solo 1v1 their squishies under their towers
>fast forward
>4-4 hp remaining
>only people alive are (our) chromie, shitty valeera, and muradin. enemy only has valla alive, everyone else in game has 50sec remaining
>our team does boss
>chromie stands in 2 roots and dies
>valeera does the same, is now too scared to hit the boss
>boss has ~10% hp remaining, valeera spinning around in circles near the boss
>valla shows up, ults muradin, blows her load, kills muradin
>valeera suddenly grows a pair and dives at valla, dying instantly
>valla taps the boss two times and takes it
>we lose
>message this fucker immediately after the game
>not online
>pic related: his match history
I legitimately hope this guy trips on his headphone cable and crushes his worthless PC.
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>you're allowed to whisper people and be able to not get whispers back
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>>168063319
>but no all chat because it would be toxic :PPP
>also not emote wheel lol
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>>168063319
I ave that feature enabled, as well as the "Unable to be invited to parties unless they're on your friends list" feature purely because I'm fucking sick of people wanting to be friends and group up with me and shit.

I fucking hate people, I just want to be left alone. Very nice of you to want to play together because you like how I'd played in that ONE SINGLE MATCH, but goddamn, just fuck off.
>>
Western clash when.

Can't wait for NA to get destroyed by EU and barely being able to defeat Aus and Brazil.
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>>168020883
>Level 10+ on Murky and Abathur
The autism is real
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>>168063957
Only regions that won a Blizzcon are invited.
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>>168064417
No america-kun. It's 3 teams from NA, 3 from EU and 1 from Aus+Nz and South America each.
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>>168064701
They changed it. They said If you didn't win a blizzcon might as well get out.
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>>168064775
See you then. Maybe you have luck in the group stages and one of your team actually manages to reach the semi finals. Finals will be EU vs EU.
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The opponents team's Varian with CM didn't like my Chroimie :^(
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>>168065328
What did he mean with any of this?
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>>168065328
What a nice guy, he's giving you multiple copies of Windows 10 to do whatever you'd like with because he feels sorry for you. Fucking A, man. What a great guy.
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>>168065328
lol what the hell

>dude be a man 1v1 no ult

I love these types of people.
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>>168065328
>multiple OS
What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>168065328
Is he going to force you to install windows 10 on all of your computers? What a cunt.
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>>168065328
uh what
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only a person with a reddit account would consider brawls fun
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>>168066117
Some of them are fun. I like the temple, punisher and got ones. The aram are ok when you're winning and the rest are garbage.
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>superstars winning without faye

hmm...
>>
Tips for Convection stacking? I generally go into turbo autism mode and start D + Q till the quest is over

Don't really help my team tho

Also is it better to go chain bomb when there is a (good) valeera on the other team?
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If you can only play one (1) hero for the next year, which would you pick?
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>>168066969
Not like b-step is a threat to anyone.
>diablo charges people out of 7s
>all those wasted combos
>tyrande is just useless
>zera useless aswell
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>>168067140
valla
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>>168067187
Why?
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>>168066969
B-step picked tyrande for some reason so they wanted to lose that game anyway
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>>168067140
Diablo.
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>>168067267
Tyrande is K1pros waifu so I can respect that he's the only one in the HGC in any region that will pick her
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>>168047328
H-heh
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>>168067140

Probably Valla, Raynor or Jaina. Honorable mention to Thrall.

>>168067231

Not him, but probably because she goes into anything. Better than most other Heroes, anyways.
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>>168066969
>superstars picking valeera
but she sucks, right guys?
they're totally going to lose...oh wait
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>>168067712
At 20 she could one shot anyone except diablo too
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>>168067765
>"We feel that Valeera needs a small increase in power to help her overall win rate..."
wtf blizz
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>>168067929
People just see the winrates and assume she is bad instead of realizing most of the people dragging her winrate down have no idea how to play her.
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>>168068049
>>168067929
>perfect 50% winrate in masters+diamond
>over 50% in masters but then again most heroes have more than 50 there
>the better the league the higher the winrate
>still buff it
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>blizzcon champions
Why are they so bad?
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>>168066991
Depends what map you're playing. On a small one like Tomb of the Spider Queen you can stack that shit by the 4-6 minute mark. Play safe, don't overextend whatever you do, even if your team does. Make sure you're safe at all time until it's done. Then you can go into the inevitable retard mode.

Try to land D + E on as many as you can and try to fit a small Flamestrike on there, but for stacking in general using D for Q is the safest.

KT is a late game hero and shines at level 16+, try to survive the early game. I don't really see the point in going Living Bomb anymore, Flamestrike does its job better?
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>>168068473
Uh, Greymane was pretty good. Lunara was okay after that trainwreck of a release.

>cho'gall
Just unfortunate, desu.

>tfw don't even remember the heroes announced recently
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>>168067583
I was hoping for personal preference replies instead of meta. It does make sense. What other heroes work in most if not all comps?
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>>168068690
I'm talking about bstep.
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>>168068475
I agree that Flamestrike is just plain better now. However on some games I see pesky Valeera's sneaking and instagibbing me, even if it's in the middle of my team and results in her death. Sure, it usually ends 1 death to each side, but I generally cannot stack my Qs and feel useless. I played one game where I knew I wouldn't stack (Illidan + Valeera + Nova) with Fury of the Sun King + Master of Flames and it looked pretty neat. Wasn't ranked though, so that's why I'm curious. Flamestrike fully stacked is better though ofc.

Hadn't thought of D+ E. Will try!
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>>168068891
Against dive you go flamestrike with the shield on 1.
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>>168047328
guess my rank
>>
WHEN
THE
FUCK
IS
MAIEV
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>>168069164
This
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>>168068865
Oh, I'm retarded.

>>168068859
Still, I'd go with Valla. Maybe Raynor.

>ragnaros
>thrall
>rehgar
>johanna

Just a few off the top of my head. Generally good "versus all" or blind pickable Heroes. As opposed to stuff like Nova, The Butcher, etc.
>>
>>168069164
>>168069191
Oh and I almost forgot:
KEL
'THUZAD
WHEN
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>>168069164
That.
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>>168067140
Lunara!
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>>168067140
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>No Maiev
>No Techies
>No hot fem Goblin (fem Techies?)
>Overmeme heroes
>Three of them before MAIEV
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>>168069164
Maybe next year.
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>>168069836
How is this allowed? No wonder the game is ded as fuck
>>
>>168047328
it takes fucking forever to get 1 character to level 10
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>>168047328
Maybe I should get Zeratul to 10. But I really want master skins for Tyrael, Artanis and Dehaka.
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>>168069836
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>>168068891
Oh yeah, I was thinking out of a ranked perspective. In QM I usually check enemy team comp first and see if I can stack, you can always try to force it, stacking becomes very easy later on when the flamestrike strikes twice.

Against a heavy stealth team I'd probably go for a more safer build too, Mana Addict like that other guy mentioned, or even try out the AA build with talents in Verdant Spheres. Although I have no clue if its bad, okay or good since I don't really play KT in QM anymore.

My advice: try out different shit and see what works
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Am I the only one who wants to see HOTS do more OC heroes based on iconic units from SC/WC?

I'd much rather see an OC Firebat hero or an OC Goblin Shredder than see fucking Malthael or Velen or whoever
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>>168071220

I've enjoyed their OC stuff so far.

>infestor not stukov pls
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>>168071220
I hope you are.
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>>168071220
>ywn be a dickass zergling running all over the place at hyper speed

it hurts
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>>168071841
An actual wave of Zerglings/Banelings that you could micro would be insane

Went out the window with Braxis Holdout though
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>>168071220
>>168071414
I got mixed felling about OC heroes. Now I have nothing against Hammer, I like myself a war loving Alabama girl. I even think it's nice that they added a small bit of lore by making it so that Tychus knows her

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tychus/Tychus%20-%20Default/Tychus_IntroQuestion_SiegeTank00.mp3

That said I probably would have preferred if Duke was the one in a tank, even if he does spend most of Starcraft in the ship instead of the tank.

Also is there even a named Firebat character in the Starcraft games?
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>Khara and Malf in game with 70k healing.
>Mvp Tyrael with top healer.
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>>168072107
Gui Montag but if they make a Firebat hero they'll almost certainly make it an OC since no one remembers who the hell he is
>>
>>168072107

My biggest issue with OC Heroes is that they're replacing, like, the original characters, which can be problematic.
>>
>>168072116
Justice will mend all wounds.
>>
Marin Noggenfogger as the Goblin Alchemist fucking when?
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>>168071957
Or a small group of 'lings as one unit and the lower the health, the less 'lings.
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HOW

Actually fucking how
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>>168072759
Homefield advantage?
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>>168039371
;__;
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>>168070115
>doesn't have chromie, hammer, morales or medivh

Hmm
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>>168072116
>>168072503

THE LIGHT ABANDONS SNOWMAN
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I really like the banter between the heroes in this game.
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>>168074795
>Nice healing
>Great healing freind!
>Gotta love a pocket healer
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>>168074795
>>168074987

You keep healin

I'll keep ROCKIN
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>have an amazing solo for killing immortals
>have an insane 4man defense
>split up and let 2 people defend while you tank and malf attack
>na shotcalling
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>>168074795
>And there goes my hearing
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So what would the team be for MAXIMUM LIGHT?
Tyrael, Auriel, Uther, Johanna, and who else?
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>>168075620
Angelic Valla, Angelic Diablo
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>>168075416
>nova not sucking etc's dick

umm???
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>abathur on my team
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HOLY SHIT BOYS LMAO
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jesus fucking christ
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>>168075948
>abathur and Murky on my team.
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>>168076881
>>168076982

oh are they doing one of those esports things
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>>168076881
>that counterstrike
>that malf iceblock
>tyrande tanking
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That fucking core defense!
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>>168008164

>mfw BSTEP's last game with the superstars and a 2% core

Holy shit, by the skin of their teeth they won. What a game. I thought ETC had it.
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>>168077170
it felt like an eternity for them to turn around and focus ETC
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>>168077170
Superstars deserved it, I can't believe how you can fuck up that much
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>>168077261
Probably the one (and hopefully only) time I've ever screamed at my TV during e-sports, how do you not notice he's back there?
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>>168077261
They killed catapults first. Catas do more dmg on core than most heroes, especially E.T.C.
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What a great skin Blizzard. Instead of this literal piece of shit how about you give us fucking gender swaps for the diablo heroes.
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>>168077763
>disliking that skin
lllooollll
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>>168077763
>>>/out/
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>>168077441
Karazhim turned and ran away to do nothing though
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>>168077763
Fuck off.

:3!
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Master Sonya > Superhero > Wrath > normal

Debate me

All her skins are great.
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>they haven't buffed Lunara in 7 months
>they haven't buffed Alarak in forever
>Butcher has always been useless
>Kerrigan still has her shit ults after her rework

Why is Blizzard so slow to tweak rarely used assassins?
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>>168008164

Doing a bit of theory crafting here,

What's a good Trio for QM and unranked draft pub stomping?
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>>168078454

I'd love a French maid Sonya skin holding brooms with a hand vac for her ancient spear.
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>>168078464
Lunara doesn't really need a buff, she'll have a place in the meta once they fix Uther and nerf Malfurion/Tassadar.
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>>168078781
Not with all this mobility creep of people who have movementspeed/escapes/slows, she has no escape without her level 20 and a lucio on the enemy team means her 20% movement speed isn't helpful. She is pretty bad right now and will remain bad if they don't do anything about her.
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>>168078978
Perhaps make her Z activatable prior to 20 if mobility is the issue, or shift some damage away from the poison and into auto attacks. Make her less useless early game, even.

>>168078512
Oof, quite a few combos.

>Xul, Chromie, X
>Raynor/Hammer, Morales, X
>anything that murders the extremely popular qm stealth meta
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>>168078781
>>168078978
>>168078464

Lunara needs a bunch of help like her level 4 talents being terrible her weak early game. The only time she becomes useful is around 20 anyway when her poison has had all those levels to get the extra scaling. They should make her Q build viable, probably give her a slightly nerfed version of galloping gait baseline, give her wisp speed baseline. Right now pre-10 she is pretty weak and wisp is mostly a throwaway basic ability, now with things like murky getting 3 fake eggs that are also wards with bigger vision radii his trait become far better than her wisp other than just throwing it away the 30 second CD basic ability to check a bush.

It's pretty shocking they have left her like this for so long. She is fun but she is definitely not good right now and will just get worse since Valeera can pretty much blow her up in the 1.5 second stun at 20 she just one shots her, the Valeera and Murky buffs along with Lucio coming is just going to make her far worse than she already is. I'm sure they are just taking their time, but it's getting a little absurd with giving new heroes so much mobility and that is literally what lunara is suppose to be about yet she just keeps falling further and further behind.
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>>168048350
plate belts in WoD were literally WWE title belts. Look up Annihilan's Waistplate
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>>168078978
>>168079849
One thing I'd really like to see is them basically scrub all of her wisp talents, make the speed one baseline (maybe even the vision one too if it's going to be a god damned baseline ability), and make the talents do something like having the wisp aoe silence when it explodes to encourage microing it in team fights.

I'd also like to see a weaker sprint baseline and Abolish Magic moved from 20 to like either 13 or even 7.
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>>168075416
you're the real rockstar, bro
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>>168080049
Yeah having the wisp do something when it dies would be good, murky's fake egg slimes when it is destroyed now lunaras wisp dies to anything. It shouldn't be able to be aoe'd either it should just be like auto.

I think they should put her wisp on 1 and give her another basic ability, say something like something that detonates her poison to deal the damage instantly. Or even just reward her for getting 3 stacks of poison on someone like "when attacking a target with 3 stacks of poison increase direct auto attack damage by 50%" or something.
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WHY IS MURADIN SO FUCKING BALANCED!?!
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>>168080049
>>168080414
Wisp should be the talent and Abolish Magic should be in her base kit imho

Way more fitting of a Dryad anyway
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>>168080561
He's a dwarf, so his center of gravity is close to the ground.
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>>168008164

God Naventic was retarded that last round.

>that lack of map awareness on the boss
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>>168079682

>>anything that murders the extremely popular qm stealth meta

Such as?

I'm looking to stop Samuro too.
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>>168008164

New player here, I've taken a look at the guides, but what characters would you personally suggest to help build some experience, like positioning, CC, map awareness?
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>>168080684
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>>168081754
Valla is the best character in the game to learn imho

She teaches the importance of all of the things you listed, in addition to the importance of stutter stepping, and how to properly capitalize on your escape.
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>>168081754
>Raynor
>Johanna
>Malfurion
>Thrall

There are a few others, but I'd recommend the above for learning the fundamentals.
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>>168081172

Yeah, Naventic shouldn't even be here.
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>zuna playing medivh
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>>168082187

>missing that ley line seal

Its pretty comedic.
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>>168082187

This is a fucking blowout.
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Why did they pick greymane?
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>>168082883
because they are terrible and don't know how to play the game at all
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>>168082883
Poke on the shrine and Greymane still puts out a lot of damage. His biggest problem is once he dives in he's pretty much dead, it's just how many are you going to take. Medivh helps with that. Tyrael is picked with him a lot because of that as well.
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>>168080414
What if.
What if.
What if wisp drains mana on explosion and with a talent also cleanses everyone in range, both allies and enemies.
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>Americans and Europeans still haven't picked up that Sgt. Hammer and Zarya are good
>Only just now realizing that Chormie, Nazeebo, and Leoric are good

Will they ever learn?
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>>168083047
>Drain Mana

I'd say this is being saved for Kel'thuzad but people would probably blow the fuck up about it being "anti-fun".
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>esports

lmaoooo
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>>168083468
This guy gets it

Why are you watching other people play??? Play the game yourselves
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>>168083825

>Why are watching other people play football?
>Just play the sports yourselves!

fuck off
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>>168083237
What?
Only thing right for EU is Hammer. The rest have been played a lot, especially Chromie, Zarya and Naz.
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>>168083825
>playing anything but hl
>playing hl on the weekends
Never again will I torture myself with weekend hl.
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>>168083825

I can only deal with teammates in hots for so many games then I need a break
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>>168083237
Zarya is picked all of the time what are you talking about?
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>>168084593
Zarya is still rare-ish in EU/NA

She's (rightfully) considered the most powerful warrior in the game in Korea.
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>>168084021
>Still no answer

Do you not have arms to play?
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>>168084840

>not playing with your feet

look at this super scrub here
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>>168083237
Dignitas plays a lot of Zarya.
Fnatic plays a lot of Chromie.
Leoric is played by everyone.
Expert and Misfits play a lot of Nazeebo.
Schwimpi from Fnatic is going to play a lot of Hammer soon, screencap this.
>>
Varian, Chromie, Alarak, or golden chicken?
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Why would they pick Tyrande if they don't have someone who can actually play her? What was with that Tyrande vanguard that just got blown up when running in to their whole team?
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>>168085240
cock
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>diamond skin on ming
>with an aa build
Nice pro plays
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>>168083237
na is always really behind the meta, they are the only region that still occasionally picks tyrande, no idea why you would gimp your team like that
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>>168086052
Remember when they said Gul'dan was shit just before blizzcon
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>>168086108
na just seems like the region where if the "pros" lose a game in qm or hl with a hero they will immediately declare it shit
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>>168084021
Always found this a retarded argument, you need other people to physically be present to play with you. Ignoring the time of day, that isn't always possible as people have shit they have to do. Doesn't apply to video games, because you just play with people across the country.
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It boggles my mind that Kenma is still on a pro team. Zuna makes some stupid plays but he also does some really nice stuff, Kenma just does stupid shit after stupid shit.
>>
thanks.

you guys
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>>168087032
your welcome t8
>>
Getting hyped for western clashes and Dignitas vs Fnatic tomorrow.

Happy that game is this late in the season. Dignitas had some time to improve. I'm pretty sure they're still weaker than Fnatic but it's a whole lot closer now. Can't wait for battle for finals and 1. place between Misfits, Fnatic and Dignitas in Poland.
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The following heroes are bad with no place in the meta (or are incredibly niche comps with questionable success rates/useful on exactly one map; IE they're bad):

Warriors:
Cho'gall
Rexxar

Assassins:
Alarak
Kael'Thas
Illidan
Kerrigan
Lunara
Nova
Raynor
Samuro
The Butcher
Zul'jin

Support:
Li Li
Tyrande
Uther

Specialist:
Abathur
Gazlowe
Murky (Soon my friend, soon...)
TLV
Zagara
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>>168087032
Whatever, turbonerd.
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>>168087386
t. bronze

>Rexxar
>Illidan
>Lunara
>Zul'jin
>Li Li
>Abathur
>TLV
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>>168087541
Sorry man I don't make the rules, those heroes are bad. The list doesn't lie.
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>>168087386
Rexxar has his place on certain maps, Alarak is good he's just not good against multiple tank, Samruo probably doesn't have a place in comp but in HL and TL he can destroy. TLV is broken as fuck on the right map and it's more than 1.

But otherwise you right.
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>>168087660
t. wood
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>Valerian

I hope they didn't mean anything by this.
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>>168087386
Kerrigan would be good if either of her ults weren't such fucking garbage
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>>168087386
>No medivh
>No zeratul
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Is Artanis actually cancer or are my opponents just retarded?

I played him for the first time since his rework and I'll admit, he basically plays the same. Besides spamming dashes, since that no longer does anything to your traits because those talents are bad.

He's super fun, but we crushed our opponents every time. And that's WITH me missing my combo half the time and NEVER doing the cool combo where you don't actually swap at all.
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>>168087386
You literally could've listed the opposite list and it would've made more sense and been shorter.
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>>168088582
Both.
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>>168088582
>cool combo where you don't swap at all
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>>168087386
You definitely forgot Medivh
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>>168088731
Someone said if you time your E and Q properly, you end up just pulling them to your position and ending up more or less where you started your Q.

That's why people call him better Stitches.

I can't do it. I still end up pretty far out from where I Q'd.
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I have 50k. Who buy?
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>>168090967
butcher
He's pretty fun
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>>168090967
Your freedom.

This game sucks and playing it is a chore, and eventually you'll find that the only reason you're still playing it is for the chance to get some shitty new here in 3 or so weeks, who is always disappointing.
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>>168087541
>lunara
>good
No not even close
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>>168088582
A stitches hook you can't dodge is pretty cancer
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>>168079849
>Valeera can pretty much blow her up in the 1.5 second stun at 20 she just one shots her
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/wiki/talents/greater-spell-shield
Certainly not on her own.
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>>168091775
>you can't dodge Prism
:thinking:
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>>168091775

Seriously how shit are you? it's the easily dodged skillshot in the game.
>>
What was the point of gutting the stun meta if they were just going to bring it back?
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>>168091970
>>168094606
You hit them when you are on top of them, it can't be avoided. Do you guys actually miss prism?
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>>168095163
>You hit them when you are on top of them
not if they walk away
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>>168091970
>>168094606
How fucking bad at the game are you if you are missing the easiest skillshot to land?
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>>168095680
Everything about prism is fucking screamed at your enemy the moment you show your face.
The dash combo did wonders for Artanis but people are finally wising up to his Protoss tricks. Prism is one of the slowest moving projectiles in the game and takes a second to even get it out, you'll only land it 50% of teh time if you try to lead with it it because there's a good chance they'll they do a 360 because Artanis just dashed up to them
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>>168090967
elven whore, fire man, varian, hot gnome, space lizard
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>>168097014
Still easier to place and more game-changing when placed than Stitches' hook
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south asian casters are cool
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>>168104354
buggy hero
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>3rd thrown draft in a row
>want to kill myself
I thought Blizzard said they thinned the retards out of Diamond this patch?
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>>168105820
>tfw happier mindlessly farming gold in wow than playing ranked hots
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What's the best Rexxar build after the assfucking he got a couple weeks ago?
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Last fucking time I played support in HL. It ends now. Time for some spoders.
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How do you deal with morales + hammer + sylv just cheesing your towers early game? If morales just sits far back it feels impossible to kill the hammer through her spot healing
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>>168109407

Uh, teammates. If you're left alone in a 1v2 against Hammer and Morales you should lose, unless I'm forgetting something. Early game, anyways.
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>>168109407
You dive them down, no fear. Kill Morales or have your entire team focus on hammer
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Despite not being meta, damn if the Hunt-idan isn't super fun
Zooming halfway through the map to violate a squishy playing it safe in a corner is delightful
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>>168110223
>Despite not being meta
>Hunt
That's right.
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>>168109407
Like >>168110064 said. You have to dive with two teamates. You need at least one stun and good damage. Three people should be enough, with or without Sylv.
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>>168110447
>>168110064
We had a chromie guldan etc rehgar laning 4v4 against their sylv hammer morales varian
would've figured the chromie bursting right as etc goes in with gul'dan rehgar would be enough, so i'm gonna guess the chromie missed shit i didn't catch
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>>168110828
Chromie is a huge counter to Hammer, she had no excuse
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classic 1 game 1 win specialist pickers d1 strats
thanks blizz
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can someone pls explain to me how samuro has such a high winrate when he gets shit on in every single one of my games?
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>>168100185
>game-changing
If your strictly comparing it to stiches' hook the yes, it's a grand ability.
It's been said before but what makes stitches hook weak is the duration that they're stunned and stitches own killing potential.
Artanis doesn't need his team nearby when he prisms someone and doesn't need to use his meme ult to ensure a kill.

>>168113680
Are you playing quick play?
Samuro gets absolutely destroyed by aoe, but against aa teams or teams with low roam potential he dominates.
While your team soaks lane you are constantly ganking and taking camps, creating an amazing amount of pressure on the enemy team.
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>>168044103
https://clips.twitchtv/horsepants/FunnyNarwhalTriHard this
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Valeera has ruined this game down to an even worse shit
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>>168078454
nothing to debate here brother
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>>168078454
A skin that has no coherence whatsoever in any of the Blizzard universes is by principle a shit skin. This applies to many, many skins in Heroes of the Storm. For Sonya, it does apply to the Superhero one.

Otherwise, her skins are okay.
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>>168117315
>implying that the superhero universe isn't a comic book from Starcraft
>>
>Pick Raynor bored but win most games
>Pick stiches have fun but lost most games
I just dont know anymore I land most hooks and on like the healer or squishy most times but my team just stands there like mouth breathing retards and doesnt attack the hooked target. Except when I play with my brother who is ready to rip the hooked a new areshole everytime.
>>
is lucio good? i'm not sure what to buy next
>>
>>168116191
Just wait until her buffs and murky becoming god tier next week, it will be unplayable
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>>168119608
>0.1% health increase
>20% reduction to garrote damage
>20% health regen decrease
>Buffs to bad talents nobody will pick

Yes the (((buff))) will put Valeera over the top
>>
>>168119608
>Varian will still counter murky
>even harder now that % based damage applies
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>>168042530
Fuck off
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>>168118089
Maybe you should idk start taking charge and calling shots? When you're better than your teammates that's what you have to do.
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>>168121216
>you should idk start
Maybe you should start constructing proper fucking sentences.
We're not your god damn friends and this is NOT Facebook.
baka famalam
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>>168121417
Sorry I'm idk so use to doing it like umm all the time opppss xD
>>
When will they fix the matchmaking?
>>
>>168121417
idk like he has a point like step it up bro, be the change you wanna be you know
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>>168013393
quick meme
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Are the weekends when the kids and Russians are allowed behind their PC's?

My win rate goes from 50+% to ~30% on the weekends.
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>>168124254
It's just people who only play on weekends sucking at the game
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>>168079849
t. bronze
>>
I wish they'd just release like the next 6 heroes at once.

I don't want Malthael, I don't want D.Va, I don't want Stukov, but those are almost assuredly the heroes that are coming down the pipe.
>>
>>168126317
>every quick match game is 5 people playing new heroes on both teams
>too much new shit to deal with at once in HL and mmr addicts will be shitting themselves
The resulting mayhem will be beautiful.
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>have fun whenever there's no valeera
>be reminded that valeera and murky will get buffs
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>>168126830
>have fun whenever there's no valeera
I sure do love fighting zeratul ragnaros thrall every match fuck newer weaker melee assassins I want overpowered bullshit every game
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>>168126830
>murky will get buffs
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>>168126936
I mean, I don't mind them at all. Zeratul doesn't have one of the longest CC's in the game. Neither Ragnaros, and all Ragnaros I have faced were just shit for not abusing the passive.
Thrall is whatever.
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>>168127054
>Zeratul doesn't have one of the longest CC's in the game.
He literally has the longest CC in the game
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>>168127217
Does Zeratul have a CC before level 10? That's the question.
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>>168127217
>stasis=cc
Whoa there, friend.
If you're going to use the word "literally" at least try to specific.
>>
>>168127330
A lot of heroes have strong or weak early game that usually flips by the 12 minute mark.
Zera starts off slow but becomes a completel fucking monster when he hits 10 and beyond.
Varian has a very weak laning phase but once he gets his ult and banner teamfights will revolve around him.
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Why do I see so little Zarya? She's really strong.
>>
>3 man party in QM
>murky, abathur, gazlowe
>they all go push bot lane on pirate map
>hardly even kill the wall
Sure can tell it's the weekend
>>
>>168127330
Kerrigan is still better since she has pull in + a stun. and she has damage in the early game.
If you die to a Valeera early you also would've died to The Butcher or any other shit tier hero with a stun.
>>
Lightning Shield build is so much better than the passive mana reg on Ghost wofl. Why don't more use it?
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BEST. GIRL.

Prove me wrong, faggots.
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>>168127992
Auriel.
>>
>>168127992
You have been proven wrong
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>>168127968
Because it only gets real value on Shrines. If not it's better to get the sustain for Rehgar and go totem or Go full heal mode and take the heal talent at 4.
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>>168127992
>loving, caring motherly figure
>ass for days
>literally stunning
>r00d ass tiddies
>not as rude as that fucking ass though
>>
>>168128208
just pop it on tank or totem
i never go oom with it, and can be more active than with ghost wolf
>>
>Enemy picked valeera
>We picked Raynor and Malfurion
>Doubled the drone
>Valeera had the longest don't break the invisiblitiy record.
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>Valeera has one of the lowest winrates in every skill division
>People still complain about her
?

>>168128359
Against a good Valeera drone doesn't do much because she can't be revealed for a second after vanishing.
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>>168128293
Feral is more consistent. If Stormcaller didn't have a cap on it would be a lot better.

Honestly I like to go full heal mode on Rehgar so I take Spiritwalker's Grace and Tidal Waves more often but honestly I also don't play much Rehgar.
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>>168128616
Honestly if Varian didn't exist she would be fine. Varian is what makes her really good. All of Varian's CC and then adding her on top of it. I hate that HGC is showing just how fucking stupid Varian is. Now I see him in every game.
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>>168128616
Actually does so much, since she can't directly engage, she always tries to sneak to a key target.
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>>168128202
>poor zagara fag has to spam the same fucking picture over and over because it's the only zagara fanart available
kek
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>>168129258
Valeera can't directly engage regardless unless you're in bronze league
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>you can get Valeera's hair stuck behind her arm/sword

Kinda neat
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>>168129458
DELETE THIS
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>>168128242
>10.000 years old
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>>168129684
>wanting to have sex with a literal infant
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>>168128660
I don't know, I really like being able to take camps and still be healthy and not oom.
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>>168129458
He's just lazy.
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>>168129458
>veiled request for more Zagara
I COMPLY
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Dignitas vs. Fnatic
Hype
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So why do you guys meme about twin blades exactly? You really take the other damage ult on varian?
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>>168130732
You take tank you bronzie.

If you really need to go meme you go smash.
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>>168130732
The fact that you think twin blades is good tell us everything we need to know about you.
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>>168130597
>See this post
>Decide I'll try watching a stream for once
>Some extremely fagy looking kid with teal hair is speaking
Y-Yeah, hype....
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>>168127759
>zarya stronk
I usually end up drafting her because I don't have as much confidence in my support.
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>>168083825
I watched briefly to try to pick up on some stuff since I am a relatively new player. It got old after the first weekend though, so I stopped watching.
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>>168130732
*blinds u*
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>>168128242
Best girl
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>>168130853
On a dps varian?
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>>168130732
>Have only ever picked taunt on Varian because it's obviously always good
>Accidentally take Second Wind at 4
>Fuck it decide to try twin blades
>Mfw I suddenly start melting immortals
>Mfw deleting Graymane if I can stick to him for 3 seconds
>Mfw shooting out 5 heroic strike a second
>Mfw all this self healing holy shit
Considering the opinions I usually see here I'm starting to think twin blades is actually good
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>>168131432
No it isn't. If you go against non retards they will punish you hard for taking twin blades.

The only place where I can see it being good is on bhb as jungler. But then again you don't want a jungler who isn't good at jungling pre 10 so even there it's at best mediocre.
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>>168131612
So you literally just tank taunt every time no matter if you're tanking or doing damage?
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>>168131432
Twin Blades was the fucking shit on release.
Because he did that RELIABLY and he did it while healing himself for massive amounts and dealing stupid high damage.
Now he hardly heals himself for shit, even with all the talents.

Prenerf I could get 5 seperate cc abilities dumped on me and I'd still get 2 picks before I dided.
Prenerf I could fight inside an Earthquake and completely fucking destroy the Thrall and everyone with him.

Now the moment you get blinded you lost.
>B-But I had this one really good game with him!
It happens sometimes, but I can guarantee you that if you take twin blades anywhere above gold in HL you will get shit on.
It just makes him a bad Illidan.
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>>168131432
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>>168083237
>Sgt. Hammer

Funnily enough, Fnatic just picked up Sgt.Hammer
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>>168132025
Does his trait still activate if he attacks while blinded?
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>>168132256
No.
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>>168085171
>Schwimpi from Fnatic is going to play a lot of Hammer soon, screencap this.

How did you know?
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It's just that, if you pick Varian in draft, you should be able to play all 3 specs. Or at least tell your team you're going meme blades FUCK. Lost so many games because Varian on my team
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>>168132370
He loves playing her, had him on her in lots of my games and he used to play her in tournament.

And now she's coming back into the meta.
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>>168130597
>>168085171
>Dehaka doesn't know the range on his tounge
Why is this silver league shit being streamed? I don't think Dehaka landed a single Q or R the whole game.
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>>168009172
>not jaraxxus
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>big starcraft event
>2 maps
>2 starcraft skins
>1 (one (uno)) starcraft hero in 6months
>meanwhile 3 overwatch heroes
>starcraft

>>168133214
He took adaptation you retard bronzie.
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>>168133350
In order to "land" it you have to use it before you die, dummy.
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>>168133626
If you didn't see it then you're blind.

Top temple when he got jumped by Zera and 2 globals from the top of my head.
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i'm playing in bronze 5

ama
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>>168133350
Starcraft? More like starcrap lmao. SC and Diablo are dead, and they are the best franchises. Dunno if you've noticed over the last ten years but Blizzard is an ultra casual no creativity business now.
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>>168133350
I know it breaks your heart, but Overwatch is the new hotness and Starcraft is literally the deadest game in Blizzard's arsenal.

Also, Starcraft 2 is THE WORST Blizzard storyline of all time. Worse than WoD, worse than Vanilla Diablo 3. Why do you want these characters?
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>>168017414
Feed her to make her big round shields stronger.
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Is Bronze Talons now the default choice for Chromie at 4 (2)?
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>>168134727
Is pretty good because the enemy will always try to be on your face
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>>168134727
It always was.
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was that abathur slut reworked? she seems to be much stronger now
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>>168065608
it stands for osteoporosis
chromie is very old
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I'm glad one team seems to understand that the entire point of Chromie is insane space control and not "my sick burst damage xD"
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>mfw braxis holdout theme
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>>168136425
It's just a song from Starcraft
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>>168136425
Best map in the game along with Dragon Shire.
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>Chromie bans
>Uther pick
>Sgt. Hammer picks

What a meta!
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>>168136425
>SC2 allows you to listen to music from any of the Starcraft games
>HotS doesn't allow you to listen to music from any of the Blizzard games
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>>168131749
not him, but if you want to carry games, you are absolutely correct
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>Everyone on Fnatic has the same haircut
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>50 seconds in
>2 Forts already destroyed
huh what a game
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>>168136746
bunch of qts
They all breed breez daily
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>2017+2 months
>noob teams still not banning rag and losing to rag
Is this why these guys are pro gaymurs and I'm just a HL nooblol|?
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>>168136867
what a boring game
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>>168137000
but what if they dont pick rag then we can pick him
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>>168137000
fnatic is winning wtf
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>>168137506
>100% zerg wave died in less than 5 seconds
>winning
let them have rag its not that good
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>>168137506
Winning because they have a splitpusher and a global.
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does this squeaky british man ever stop talking about zeratul
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>Zeratul completely dominates with little possible counter play
>B-But Muhleera
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>>168138079
Counter play is different draft.

He counters Sylv real well in this scenario.
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>>168138079
to be fair dignitas has had numerous opportunities to cap both nodes but they always go for mercs or pushing instead
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>>168138079
Yeah, that Zeratul is playing pretty well the objective game.
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>lets fight right beside a fort
>its okay rag isn't good
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wtf they walked in front of mc
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pro hots is just embarassing
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that stupid iceblock
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>
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ZERATUL MAKES THE LEGENDARY PLAY STALLING THE ENTIRE TEAM WHILE HIS TEAM KILLS THE COR-
Nevermind
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That's unfortunate, such a beautiful game by fnatic I thought that was in the bag.
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>rag stops every single zerg push
>rapes a team fight
>stops a core push winning the game
don't ban rag it's okay he's not good
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>>168138869
>pro
Only in name. The community is horrid.
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3%
3%

holy shit
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>>168138869

The only reason why these people are 'pros' is that anyone who is actually good enough at MOBAs to make money playing them is playing DOTA/Lawl.
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Think they had to go for it.
Dignitas was on their way to get double keep and zergrush alone wasn't going to win a game.

Their 5:5 teamfight was weaker too and no way to sneak boss.
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>>168139085
Zeratul throw it, he used the prision in tyra instead of uther and sylvanas
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>3%
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>>168139171
Zeratul throw it, he didn't interrupt tyra after the VP
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>>168139171
Imposing Will.
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>>168139587
Yes, and? He was going to stall them not kill them.
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inb4 Sonya, Zarya, Tyrael/Arthas
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I really don't understand, how is this "slowly look up" thing supposed to look cool?
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>Kerrigan picked instead of Valeera
BUT VALEERA IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT HER STUN LASTS 0.5 SECONDS LONGER THAN KERRIGANS
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>>168140408
>point and click stun
>more rewarding than tiny aoe that has a very noticeable indicator for the enemy team
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>>168140408
>not picking kerrigan in infernal shrines
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>>168140518
>Hoping they walk into the stun instead of comboing with the claw
hello, bronzie.
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wow the jaina elemental is a fucking joke
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>kerrigan uses Q on ETC
>she gets CC-locked
uhm
digbabs?
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>>168140692
>using two cooldowns for a MAYBE hit
Even with grasp you typically only catch someone who is completely ignoring you.
Proper q usage outside of those 1 in 50 seconds you stun someone.
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fnatic is so fucking angry about the last game
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>>168140692
>he can't sidestep the combo every time
t. wood league
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>>168140980
>HotS players
>butthurt
Goes hand in hand.
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>>168141093
>he can't walk away form valeera
t. talc league
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>>168140980
would be funny to see them get tilted so hard that they'll lose 2 more
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how the hell did one team get kerrigan AND sylvanas on infernal shrines? and the other team gets... malfurion
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>>168141236
>he only plays against ganker!!1! valeera, not GM MMR counter-initiation valeera
t. grass seed league
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>>168141448
Is about ho happen, punisher with sylv, they are going to get another keep
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>>168141448
>>168141630
>etc literally used slide into the other team

lmao
>>
>etc locked down while the punisher steps on his stupid guitar and dual-fists his bovine asshole until he's dead
so satisfying to watch
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>>168141470
Neither Kerrigan nor Sylv are very strong.

Sylv doesn't deal effective dmg and Kerrigan is super squishy and easy to kill.
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>>168141804
yeah, but this is infernal shrines though
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>>168141770
>this fucking jealous of the BTC
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>36k viewers
dang

>>168141959
You saw how they got destroyed early game. They only were able to come back because small slipups and then having to deal with a 16 Tyrael and having Dehaka on their team.
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>>168141959
Kerrigan wasnt that important, it was sylvanas raping their keeps and aoe silence and the random feeds from fnatic
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>>168142047
Hosted by hearthstone, blizzard acknowledges that their moba is dying.
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>>168142047
I wish it had that amount of viewers. Hearthstone hosted HCG.
It's still a pretty fun series.
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>Hammer pick
And it's not Fnatic, hah.
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>>168142047
>>168142179
>4.5k viewers left in less than 5 minutes
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>>168142641
That always happens with hosts. We still have like 10k who stayed.
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>Tyrael solo tank
>3 backline squishies

If they're gonna win, it'll have to be the meme way.
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>>168142809
Who needs healing when you can just kill enemies really, really fast?
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>suddenly, the stream becomes one for newbs
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I'm confused what does "siege up' mean? "reaching through time"?
They need to explain better for new players like me
>>
where are you watching that tournament?
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>>168143258
I believe siege up means about Sgt. Hammer staying in place to do more damage on a bigger radius. Chromie shits on her, because, while she's slow at casting, she can melt Sgt. Hammer because she'll stand still.
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>>168143281
On my monitor. I heard of a guy that watched it on his gameboy, but he was probably lying about that.
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>>168143258
Its for hammer's siege mode
Welcome to Hots, how do you like the game?
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>>168143547
I would like it if that boring fire guy and the gay deer man weren't in 100% of games
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>>168143739
Play unranked draft.
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Murky should not be possible to have on Towers of Doom.
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>>168143739
wait until you level up and invisible elf whore, invisible sniper slut, and invisible alien guy are in 100% of your games
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>>168143739
>gay deer man
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>>168143953
I'm also confused by that. I think he's talking about malfurion?
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>>168143856
You forgot invisible weeb orc.
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so the hearthstone guys are just leaving the stream on as background sound? plus, the casters need to be able to draw on the screen if they want to really help new guys. they're just saying random names as far as new viewers are concerned
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>>168143856
Since both the whore and the slut are invisible, who knows what are they doing together, while no one watches.
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>>168143856
>qmfags
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DIGNITAS BTFO
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>>168144230
sometimes i dont want to wait 15 minutes for a game
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>>168144385
>this is what qmfags seriously believe
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>>168144385
>he doesn't scrim with his 15 football friends
Fucking nerd, you can't even play games the right way, go kill yourself
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why is it so hard to find a party for xp in qm
i just want to level up some heroes
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>>168144527
you're probably gold league or something so i wouldn't expect you to understand, monkey, psh get lost
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>>168146505
Masters :v)
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>Hammer again in DS
Why?
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Kharazim seems pretty fun desu, someone tell me that he isn't so I don't put myself through playing QM supoort
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>>168147178
He's pretty fun and completely capable of solo supporting even if you never take a heal talent outside of palm, so it's never painful because you can pull your own weight and aren't at the mercy of your team so much.
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>>168146984
Hammer's always been pretty good pick on Dragon Shite because you have to hold one point for a long time
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Can someone give me a dps build for Varian?
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>>168136425
sauce
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>>168148725
Lions maw/overpower
Warbringer
Parry talent
Taunt
Banner of ironforge
Juggernaut
DS
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>>168148725
Wait for the buff
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>>168061228
>requires all Vikings to be huddled up and away from their lanes they need to keep soaking now to use it
>bee's dick worth of damage, all of them AA'ing a single target does more damage, even more damage with spin to win
>no mobility, is outrun with ease
>fuck all health, even less depending on how many Vikings are still alive
>stuns all Vikings if the boat is wrecked which is easily done, leaving them all open for an easy wipe
>that fucking cooldown
>doesn't allow you to instantly save the other Vikings from certain death by teleporting them to a safe Viking's location
why would you ever pick it
vikings rework when
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>>168149319
They don't need a rework, they need their nerfs reverted.
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>>168149319
Hopefully never fuck vikings and fuck takada
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>>168148725
Lion's maw
Warbringer
Victory Rush
Colossus Smash
Ironforge
Juggernaut
Master at Arms
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>this meme picking
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>>168150179
You immediately notice it's not the "top" teams who stick to safe stuff. Well, sometimes they too, memepick, but more for BM against worse opponents.

These niggers are even and are competing for the weirder comp.
>>
Who do you think will be the last hero we will get after valeera?
>>
>>168151007
lucio
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>>168149319
nobody will waste time reworking the least player hero in the game when there are actually good popular heroes who need rework desperately
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>reinstall hots after literal years
>check out my boy muradin
>avatar only gives him health now

wtf

way to gut the most balanced warrior i guess
>>
>Ragnaros has been picked/banned 236 of 366 matches in all HCG tournaments
>Zeratul has been picked/banned 177 times
>Thrall has been picked/banned 116 times
>Valeera has been picked/banned 4 times

Valeera nerfs when??
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>>168151396
they made the ministun a talent instead.

He's still the most balanced warrior
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>>168151396
That shit was way too strong. Ministuns is a lvl 7 talent now.
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>>168151396
He's still incredibly balanced.
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>>168151396
>hasn't played hots in years
>check one hero
>complain about balance

way to gut your brain lmao did you play lol meanwhile to reduce your iq haha
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>topkeg, topkeg my friend
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>>168151503
>>168151506
>>168151515
>>168151673
i'll just play diablo

is diablo a good lad now

can I still pick people up and put them down
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>>168151780
Yes. You can solo Illidan 100-0 in chainstuns if you're in the right position.
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>>168151780
If you only want to play old warriors stick to ETC or Muradin
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>>168151780
Yes, Diablo is pretty good right now. Charging people into walls now stuns them and does very good damage.
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>>168151918
I fucking hate etc dude

If you're all telling me muradin is still good I'll try him out I suppose

>>168151909
>>168151954
thanks amigos
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>>168152071
Muradin is still good.
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>>168152071
Muradin can still solo tank very well.
Muradin still can help blow up people, and even blow up squishier heroes himself with Thunderclap build.
Muradin can go full bruiser and deal nigh-assassin damage during teamfights consistently.

He's got good talents all around, he's straightforward, he's perfectly in balance.
>>
Okay Tass clearly needs a nerf, what needs to be hit?
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>>168151396
muradin was fucking retardedly broken forever

he is perfectly fine now
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>>168152574
buff his AA
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>>168152574
He doesn't
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>>168152574
>NOT EVEN A REAL SUPPORT
>needs nerfs
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>>168152574
Tass needs buff right now Zarya is better than him 100% of the time
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>>168152669
>First pick/first ban
>Picking him is an immediate automatic win

Yeah nah

The only reason bottom feeders in HL don't realize he's broken is because the concept of rolling with 2 supports does not exist at anything lower than GM
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>>168152762
just play a dive character and blow him up. he can't phase shift when it hits low hp anymore automatically
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>>168152574
Re-class from support to specialist
>>
You know what's more annoying than a rager, are the people who piss their pants acting like being namecalled is the most offensive thing that's ever happened to them. Bad players who are called out for being bad and get all defensive instead of taking the criticism and playing better.
>>
jesus fucking christ i loathe qm
it's fucking impossible to win with tassadar because i have twice my teams damage with full dmg team
>>
>Artanis, Varian, Rhegar, Falstad and Azmo
>Falstad DCs almost immediately
>Rhegar picks ancestral and spends most of the game away from the rest of the team
>lose 201 points
>blizz still thinks I should be lower than these retards
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>>168154639
I don't really understand why a team based game promotes you or demotes you strictly based on wins if you queue solo. Starcraft, a game where this would make sense, didn't do that. How about you just look at how well I did in the game and give me points based on that.
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>that gust and ragnaros Q
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>>168154979
How about you quit bitching and just win like everyone else in grandmasters did
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>>168155259
>lets ban Chromie instead XD
Every time.
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>>168155346
I don't think I am above plat but I don't think I am silver either desu
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>>168154979
or just
um
win

>all ten people just playing for kda, experience soak, etc, climbing turns into getting mvp every game
pls no
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>>168153975
I don't, I instantly report anyone who is toxic towards me. If they are not toxic, I mute their chat and pings and keep playing.
I don't need to be told what to do from players of similar skill to mine.
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>>168155383
Dumb anon.
Chromie was a lot more threatening.
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>>168155739
It's just that people STILL don't ban Ragnaros like they should.
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That varian was shitting bullets
His eyebrows already got burned off and it stopped literally an inch from his face
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>>168155675
You're exactly what I'm talking about. You play like shit and assume nobody is good enough to call you out.
>>
>>168155943
>shadow assault
>blink charges
>>
>somebody gets mad at me
>I tell them to fuck off
>"woah dude chill u mad bro? u mad bro? y he mad tho"
>tell them they started it
>"dude lol no dude im fine u salty af dude why he mad tho?"
Why... do people do this...
>>
>>168153975
Ya know, you think you're doing a service by supposed calling out bad players, but all you're really doing is shooting youself in the foot. Calling out a baddie is only going to tilt them harder and guarentee you a lose and a few reports to go with it.
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>>168156102
>hurrr durrr master players use meme prison so you have to as well
no thanks i will rather pick the fun ult
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>>168156160
To create that frustrated feeling you have now, either that or they're genuinely retarded, hard to tell.
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holy shit

this guy is stacked
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>>168156160
lmao u mad tho bro?
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>>168156661
>hurrr durrr i auto attack faster
>fun
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How's lucio?
Anyone try him out
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>>168157182
he's okay
might need buffs
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>>168155997
Enjoy your silence.
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>>168156661
lmao free week zunatools
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>>168157182
>>168157482
>movement speed buff is good with the 60% movement speed buff
>healing is ok at best but his mana cost of it is slightly high so you can only use it 5 times or your oom
I don't know what to buff with him maybe change his blind to a silence based on how close it is I don't know
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PAYLOAD MAP WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MAKE IT HAPPEN FIGURE IT OUT
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>>168158002
>Its a starcraft map
>Its a Zerg vs Zerg map
>Your core is the zerg queen which his basically a moving base
>Your queen will move around collecting eggs
>You need to escort her if your not around she doesn't move
>if she collectors enough it will summon a giant swarm to the enemy queen
or it could be capture the flag on that one Warcraft bg who's name escapes me atm
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>>168158002
>Warsong Gulch
>Arathi Basin

The potential future Maps/Battlegrounds and Heroes are what keep me going.
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>>168157482
>Might need buffs.

If anything he is going to need nerfs. Buffs are you out of your fucking mind.
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>>168158002
>it's a overwatch match
>it's a warcraft map
>It's a starcraft map
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lots of cool map things they can do for sure
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>>168158002
>>168158239
>>168158694

so basically that crappy brawl where you had to load cannonballs into cannons while the other team tried to prevent you?
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>>168159019
Yeah, just in not shit.
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>abathur is afk at the fort all game
>literally never leaves past a gate for the entirety of the game
>ask him to move out
>"stfu"
>tell him to move out or he's reported
>"w.e stfu"
>im literally ahead of this stupid fuck in seige AND exp as rag
>teammates come to his defense
>"stfu rag abathur is awesome, top xp in game"
>give him a moment to check
>"second right now"
>Yeah who is first motherfucker? Hm? Who?
>"god you're a cunt"
>the ENTIRE TEAM is fucking complimenting abathur all game
>hasn't taken a single building
>literally sitting at the fucking CORE shielding people
>win a MASSIVE team fight with molten core, hit the entire team with everything
>"nice job abby!"
>we lose the game
>everyone votes for "abby"

I swear to god my life is a television show and human beings only exist to piss me the fuck off
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>>168159474
>smurf
>literally AFK games on Abathur
>one person calls me out
>everybody rushes to my defense explaining how slug works
>come back
>they're all agreeing to report guy who called me out

It's pretty disgusting, desu.
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>>168159474
>In master league
>Player with lowest mmr at 2200 is the Abatard
>He's a useless piece of shit and everyone notices immediately
>Nobody defends his dumb slugass
>Lose the game with core at 1% because he wasn't at the last fight
>He gets MVP everyone else had at least 1 death
>Chat is full of everyone telling Abathur to kill himself
>Get a whisper from the enemy ragnaros saying his team should've lost

Sometimes I wish a 2nd Hitler would rise up and cull all the bronzies
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>get to master
>every other game is azmodan sgt hammer abathur first pick clown fiesta
i think im gonna go back to dota or league if this continues
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>>168158002
>eternally stuck in the middle

Should be fun
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>play varian in QM
>go for tank build two games in a row
>first game a valeera monkey keeps engaging alone or facechecking bushes non-stop inevitably losing us the game
>second game
>sylvanas keeps "split pushing" although never helps with camps
>never seen in teamfights
>lose

>play third game of varian
>fuck it
>go twin blades of retardation
>feed and go around disoriented like a retard all game
>die 10+ times
>win

why is this allowed
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Cool, interesting heroes when?
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>>168160127
>>168160112
>get shit abathur on your team who does nothing, never leaves the base, no stealthers in game
>takes *that* ult at 10
>criticize him even slightly
>team: rofl dude do you even know how abby works??? stfu dude he's doing awesome, more than ur dumb ass
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>>168162126
You wanted fun hero? Fuck you here's Lucio.
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>>168162329
lucio is insanely fun...
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>>168162126
Blizzard here. We don't have any immediate plans to release Maiev soon.
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>>168162329

I mean lucio does look fun, but the less Overwatch stuff the better desu.
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in pro overwatch lucio is in 80-90% of the games
other heroes are more interchangeable and don't come close to this

the reason is not his pushback
it's not his healing aura
it's his speed

adding speed to a game and being the only character to do so, it basically creates a new version of the game on speed

i think we will see some poke dive on steroids comps become a thing from the lucio addition, micro heavy characters like valla will get enabled to become pure abuse tier
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>>168159474
you threw the game for aba
>>
being fast modifies time, the fourth dimension
you cant imagine 4D
you cant imagine hots on speed

just wait till you see its shadow appear and you will know
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>>168158731
>he is going to need nerfs.
He really won't.
>>
Khroen bring the pain
>>
Tempo Storm got fucking worked over lmao
>>
>Pick diablo
>ram my spiky demon cock in people while being unkillable

>pick tassadar
>ram my lightning protoss non-cock in people while being unkillable

wtf when did this game become good
>>
cool build gul'dan, why dont you come to the nexus and show it off
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I hope Gale Force brings nothing but cheesy ass builds like that all day long
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>>168163325

Yeah, they got btfo
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>>168162840
You don't know SHIT about this game you BRONZIE FUCK just focus him
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>>168163674
*gains armor, immunity to cc and 200% movement speed*
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>guy picks morales
>literal heal bot
>1/3 of enemy healers healing

what a performance
>>
>>168163602
>Super standard Morales Tassadar double support team
>cheesy ass builds
?
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Khroen is raping so hard
>>
good fuck Tempo Storm
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Tempostorm BTFO hard
Gust into Molten Core, Sulfuras Smash, Void Prison, and absolutely nothing worked, holy shit.

>>168164378
It's odd for a Guldan.
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>literally no damage done to hammer using the entire team's ults

didn't even have to use ancestral on him. just wow
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>Hammer comp.

It was beautiful.
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>tfw they have same comp except ragnaros
>tfw meme holdout
I WONDER WHO WILL WIN REALLY MADE MY SYNAPSES TRAVEL LIGHT SPEED
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>>168163884
just slow him down lmao
>>
gfe is going to throw this one
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>>168166083
They didn't run a meme comp. They lose.
>>
well is already over
>>
>All these fags watching people play
>esports
what the fuck, just play the game yourselves
>>
>>168167069
LEAVE
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How do I get my gold back to a multiple of 0 or at least 5?

This is what happens when you get your First Win of the Day on Stimpack in Brawl.
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Khroen is carrying this games so hard.
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>>168167451
>multiple of 0
what a cringelord
>>
Did one of the casters just randomly start talking about one of the players having aspergers? Surely I must've misheard as I am listening to music at the moment.
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>>168136608
>they'll never remix every song from Warcraft 2 like they did for the Blackheart's Bay themes
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>>168167451
keep getting first win of the days on a stimpack in brawl
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Congrats to Galeforce!
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Tempostorm absolutely BTFO
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>>168168929
That last fight was crazy
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>tempo shits got 3-0'd
fucking kek
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my buff asian husbando wins again >:^3
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>>168167451
if you make a ticket and ask them to take 3 gold away they will actually do it
>>
>you will never have a threesome with gilly and dread
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Varian or Sumaro?
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>>168158002

It's gonna be an Overwatch map. You know it to be true.
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>>168170046
varian
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>>168170046
Varian if you want to play taunt. Samuro if you don't want to play taunt.
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>>168170081
is that the iconic map of overwatch like de_dust2 for counterstrike?
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>>168170903
None of the maps are really iconic.

There are maps that players really fucking hate with a passion, and there are maps that players only sometimes hate. But none of them really scream "This map is the essence of Overwatch" in a good or nostalgic way.

NOW ENTERING...
EICHENWALDE
Prepare to attack.
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>>168171503
I really enjoy Temple of Anubis tqbh
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>>168171503
Hanamura sucks fucking ass, but visually it's fairly iconic.
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>>168171503
dorado and route66 i like

something like lijang towers or illios could be a fun "room based" map since they are already mirrored and pretty sure lijang essentially supports 2-3 lanes already depending on which level of it
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>>168158002
Would it be dual payloads like TF2 where two payloads are moving?
Would it have objectives that spawn around the map, that move the payload forward when picked up?
Would the payload then provide certain benefits depending on how far it is on the track? Like when it's near your base it provides a resist aura since clearly you need it to survive if you're that shit. While when it's near the enemy base it provides a healing/regen boost to assist healers?
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>>168171503
What maps are hated?
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>>168173418
all assault aka 2 control point
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>>168173418
2CP maps are notoriously shit due to stall tactics being so effective.
KotH maps are generally seen as shitty but not inherently broken.
Hybrid maps tend to get a lot of hate from the lower leagues.
Payload maps tend to not bother anyone.
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Daily reminder that if you are below masters, you are not allowed to talk about balance.
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>>168174138
i play vs ai
can i at least talk about waifus?
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>>168174691
Only masters are permitted to speak of waifus.
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>>168174691
Depends on how slutty they are.
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