/twg/ - Total War General

FIRST FOR THE EMPIRE

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Gobbos are for soaking, screening, and eating

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Hello

Third for glory days are back again.

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reminder that this weapon won WW2

Why do you guys hate radious so much? He has been making consistently great mods since the Shogun 2 days. His mods are THE most popular mods for total war games on the entire workshop - because he gives the community quality mods that they enjoy. His mods make the game fun and enjoyable for countless subscribers, and yet all /twg/ does is shit on him with memes. I bet that if you just tried my mods once you wouldn't be so quick to trash them - they give great unit diversity and allow for the large scale battles that total war players crave

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Dead men tell no tales, anon.

>>167959514
Oh, I forgot.

Total Warhammer is currently TWELVE(12) Freedombux through the Humble Monthly service on HumbleBundle.

>>167959098
What the fuck is a sigmarite hero? A Warrior Priest?
Knights of the Blazing Sun aren't very good.(Relatively speaking.)

Stack weapon damage on Karl and a couple of Empire Captains on pegasus and try to assassinate the enemy general at all costs.
Abuse the broken lore of life to keep your army in it as long as possible.

Don't use missile units in general unless you can deal with six to eighteen zombie units appearing on top of them. (Though you can have an artillery firebase separate from the main fight with sniping great cannons if you want to try, the defence you leave with it obviously weakens your main line though, obviously).

>wood elves start gassing other factions instead of cleaning up the beastmen
Fucking elves.

>>167960642
Clearly the beastmen seduced them with big fat mino cock.

>>167960041
Stop namefagging

>>167961419
I just slap it on for pertinence to the OP my dude.

Reminder that Nagash was Weak

>>167959894
True that
Nazis need not apply

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>>167961729
Nagash was a fool!

>>167959894
>WW2
>any side 'winning'

>>167962174
t. butthurt kraut with shitty equipment

>>167962379
How is ww2 even Total War related?

fuck off /pol/

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>tfw True Siege of Karak Kadrin(for campaign) doesn't work with SFO

>>167962463
well it might be total war one day. It'd be shit but plenty have a hard on for it. Also as an apolitical event WWII was a humanitarian disaster and was quickly followed by catastrophes in China, Russia and so on.

>>167962463
Without WW2 there would be no Total War.

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Have to wait years for a proper Chaos experience with WoC maintaining Fortresses, seizing artifacts and monoliths leading to campaign bonuses. Actually getting the Tribes to do something. Maybe one day.

>>167962540
Bridge, the map. Even less impressive than the cookie cutter. Bridge leading to underground cookie cutter would be alright but that map is really bad.

>>167962540
Actually never mind it was the beastmen ambush map mod that prevented it from working


>>167962796
>Bridge, the map. Even less impressive than the cookie cutter. Bridge leading to underground cookie cutter would be alright but that map is really bad.

Yeah it is not super interesting, but I wanted to try it out for campaign. Not sure if I will do better with the new map though. Rip cannon towers.

>>167962796
>chaos wastes
never ever

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So they are totally going to fill in those super obvious blank "shit will go here some day" spots to the bottom and right of the Warhammer campaign map, right

I'm still not convinced at all that they will ever add the new world

>>167962796
>Settra's revenge
What did Settra even do in the Sea of Chaos?

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>>167963321

>>167963321
Oh here we go again.
Possibly to some degree.
The fact that there is featureless land there indicates nothing. It is just there because they can't otherwise cut off the map because the camera would see an empty void otherwise.

>>167963392
Chaos graverobbers.

>>167962889
>Rip canon towers
Oh yay the map is far more interesting but now I lose a large chunk of defensive advantage thus not being too helpful (Talabheim) or I have a defensive advantage by the map literally being an uninteresting choke point that is way to damn long but is a decent fap session while the enemy takes 10 minutes walking across a bridge (Kadrin)

If this leads to sieges with both interesting maps and a defensive advantage, and a control point or 3, then life's good but in the meantime I don't think these are going to markedly improve campaign experience.

>>167963014
If they are throwing in chaos stunties of all factions they can at least make the great north great again and give chaos something fun to do outside burning and murdering. Let Beastmen erect Herdstones and special places in the woods and not at burnt cities, you know where Herdstones exist and we can sacrifice favor to make them special.

>>167963321
I think the naval difficulties are a setback and I think they are only just realising how the 'jigsaw expansions' is going to be difficult to work. The warhammer world is a bit of an 'all or nothing' because the lore tries to facilitate almost any eventuality so players of any faction had reasons to be somewhere doing something.

>>167963480
There is only so much noise you can put on the map with relevance to only two or fewer factions before it starts to become an extravagant mess.

>>167963392
>>167963469
sure it's fantasy but ancient Egypt never had vessels that would be capable of crossing open ocean especially in northern climates. Those famous barges were mostly river goers and maybe in the deeper parts of the Nile estuaries. TK shisp are probably magic bone ships with untiring undead oarsmen but naval tech is often forgotten.

>>167962174
Fucking Nazi fag, gas yourself plz.

>>167962763
Total war was a thing at least since the peloponnesian war

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>>167963480
Got some screens.

>>167963864
>sure it's fantasy but
There you go
It is fantasy, there is no but

>>167964302
I was about to make this exact post

>>167963864
There are living Skeletons they could walk on the sea floor if they wanted

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>>167964283
What a good start

Please add thousands of maps to the campaign as if they were procedurally generated.
Thank you.

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>>167964428
A nice shot of this beautiful map

>>167963832
We had forts back in the day. Whats to stop Beastmen making Herdstones in the Drakwald or up in that mountainous forest in Estallia. Then you can't even burn the elf stuff for Herdstones which their stuff is in the middle of the thickest forest in the world. Beastmen aren't far off from being as boring if not for their stances. Imagine Herdstones and Chaos portals housing your infrastructure while the hordes be hordes. Chaos has places to control and has turf to be invested in, same with Beastmen.

There is a reason those campaigns suck despite really fun rosters. These ideas wouldn't crowd the map either. Beastmen would want to hide that shit in the woods and the Chaos structures are far away from the crowded map filled with things restricted to a couple races already.

So did all that black on Darrens map mean that the same battle maps were cycled for that area?

>>167963864
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese%E2%80%93Mamluk_naval_war

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>>167964605
engine restrictions

Is FotE still only half finished?


I want to try it again.

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>>167964364
>There are living Skeletons they could walk on the sea floor if they wanted

Holy shit, that would be an awesome naval replacement for TK.

>>167964678
>Mamulks

dude that is 16th century

>>167964746
16th century BC duh

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>>167964568
Please stop


>>167964623
It's uses map seeds or whatever. Procedurally generated maps, but they will stay there so can you fight at the same location with the same battle map more than once. You can see this with the first battle you fight in any campaign(e.g Empire).

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>>167964746
But what about the Sea People

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>>167964881
STOP

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>>167964979
alright lads lets talk about this

where did they come from? i think mars

>cannonball clips an entire line of bloodknights, turning them all to expensive lawn fertilizer

the best feeling, 1 shot 9 kills.

>>167965039
They're ancient Americans if you ask me.

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>>167965031
This is just as boring as river crossing battles or rome 2 fort battles(except I am losing this time of course).

>>167965039
I believe they were literal sea peoples as in they live below the ocean and can breathe underwater

>>167959514
>tfw no warhammer movie
>we got warcraft instead which is fucking shit

>>167965253
They are not mutually exclusive.
They would both be trash.

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>>167965207
Sniped Manny, here comes Daddy.


>>167965253
What would be a good warhammer movie plot? Gotrek and Felix? Some silly game of thrones intrigue stuff in the Empire? With more monsters that is.

>>167965253
How would that even work?

There is no human element in Warhammer, noboy that's not just going WARWARWAR all the time

Would you make it a Starship Troopers type thing where it's about a group of soldiers?

>>167965416
>that blob

shame you don't have the skyhammer

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>>167964708
I don't know its not like I am a programmer.

But the Attila-style of hordes just kind of suck being implemented in Warhammer. Shit takes ages to develop a new army into anything cohesive and competent, you will never have anything to care about besides your petty 3-4 armies max, then when you get there, nothing to do. You are better off going into custom battles and randomly generating battles for a campaign experience. And as you might guess I'm a chaos fan, did all the chaos achievements but I really don't have any reason to play them again outside of getting a few new units from time to time. Ditto with Beastmen.

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>>167965416
Well that was awful. Gonna do that siege again with walls and cannon towers later.


>>167965495
Only had a newly confederated garrison.

>>167965445
>Saving Private Ryan-esque film that follows a group of empire state troopers

fund it

>>167965606
>stunties can't even hold one bridge

This is why you get wiped out by literal rats.

>>167965557
I found Beastmen way more fun than Chaos. I could actually play them more than once.

I'm about to fuck horses in Attila (FotE)

Do I fuck with the Alans or the Huns?

>>167965762
>Really wounded garrison
>against 4 vampire LLs
>Fucked up Manny and his army

Good enough.

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>>167965616
>Movie set in Bretonnia
>Protagonists are all peasants

Guys help, i'm starting to think that razagor chariots are actually really good.

>>167965967
>losing
>OCH, THA'S GUD ENUFF, LADS, LET'S GO GET DRUNK A' SIT ON OUR ARSES WHILE THA RATS AND WEE GOBBOS TAKE ALL OUR LANDS

literally you, stunty.

>>167966090
You are beyond help.

>>167966039

>protagonist try leave their village for adventure, get hanged for desertion by the new protagonist knight who then drinks wine and jousts for the rest of the movie.
>ends with a cliffhanger where he gets the grail vision.

>>167966090
they are

>>167964979
HAVFOLKENE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUT RÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆ

>>167966253
>>167966181
I just think they are a really important part of the beastmen's roster.

As small as it is, I don't think you can afford to just ignore so many of their units.

Also, they look really good compared to the ork boar chariots

>>167966154
This propganda has been brought to you by the High Elves.

>>167966090
Chariots can do some serious damage after one of the newer patches. They require a lot of micro which still makes them less viable in mp though

>>167966576
Even degenerate knife ears can be right some of the time.

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>high elves
>dark elves

>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who dont play on legendary

>>167966832
>Battle realism camera.
No thanks.

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Has 1212 A.D. mod for Attila gotten a campaign?

>>167965606
>savescumming

>>167967105
no worries, right after Ancient Empires

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*record scratch*

>>167967291
It was just a test.

>>167967593
>Savescumming with excuses.

Holy shit Glenn died.

What difficulty do you guys play on Warham?

>>167967957
VH/N.

>>167967893
who?

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>>167967548
>you're probably wondering how I got into this situation

>>167968064
Why are you using a necromancer?

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>>167967435
Guess I'll wait for Med3 instead.

>>167968547
>Guess I'll wait for Med3 instead

anon...

Is the steam edition of Rome II really worth $60?

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Pure joy

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>>167969194
Guess I'll just wait for Bretonnia instead then.

How is Muramana on the new Warwick? His Q will proc on hit effects once, and the procs them thrice, yeah?

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>>167968547

>>167969326
Warwick doesn't need it honestly, Tankwick and his q as well as his passive heals him fine, no need for damage.

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>playing Beastmen

>>167969326
>>167969431
>LOL

>>167969436
that costume must have taken a lot of effort.

>>167969326
>>167969431
Kill yourself.

For your sake I hope your shitty friends are forcing you to play that trash with them

>>167969436
Beastmen are goats, not wolves. And does playing Dwarfs. Empire or Orcs, who are all male without exception, make you gay?

>>167968179
I have a mod that makes magic impactful and like his passive regen buff and I'm not some min-maxing faggot.

>>167965039
They obviously came from Atlantis.

>>167969487
>>167969431

>A couple of friends always want to play that game
>Match lasts for a fucking hour and we end up losing
>Everybody gets in a really bad mood and angry at eachother and so on

>Different group of friends
>same thing happens

Apperantly that is pretty normal for that game. Fuck that shitty game.

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Cool map

>>167969549
>Dwarfs
You're a spoiled manlet with anger issues, probably also autistic
>Orcs
You are most likely working class English
>Empire
Wannabe normie
>Vampire Counts
To intelligent to come out of closet

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>>167967435

>>167969995
>cool


It wasn't that cool.
>>167964283
>>167964428
>>167964881
>>167965031
>>167965416
>>167965606

>>167969917
I've seen three separate groups of friends turn shitty after just a few games.

I don't get what the appeal of playing League is if all you're going to do is get mad at each other. Like I get it's competitive but I've never seen a game genre get people so mad so fast as MOBA's do.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>167970537
It feels like an actual Karak siege. Unlike vanilla.

>>167970537
>It wasn't that cool.

That's the joke. Notice the parts of the map floating in mid air.

I know jack shit about Total War and even more jack shit about Warhammer but the game caught my attention because of the gigantic battles and also the fact that i can raise the dead.

So how optimized is this game? I just dont know if i should pull the trigger on the 12$ humbe bundle thing or not.

>>167970713
Saw it now. What the fuck. It looks like there is a copy of the map floating there.


>>167970691
Not really.

>>167970691
It's a good start for one but the one choke point really does break the game/AI.

Like you can go 2v4 defending with a lines of Wood Elf melee infantry and still win due to the choke pointing that goes on.

So will we be able to have proper town battles? There's alot of assets people can use to replicate the ones from previous Total War game.s

>>167971162
Proper maps. Probably shit AI not designed to handle it

>>167971641
It's not like that stopped CA in any of the other games with shitty siege AI.

>>167970263
how about the other races?

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So something weird happened here - Adalsteinn's father Garulf was widowed and remarried Brynhildr, and eventually Garulf died. Adalsteinn for some reason was considered a part of the Other Nobles group and showed up on the left as well as the family tree, so I managed to make the 17 year old heir marry his 62 year old mother in law. Fun stuff.

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>Age of Charlemagne forces you to backstab your Eastphalian, Nordbungian, Angrian and Wilzi allies to form Saxony

>Tfw after 200 turns of trade agreements, defensive alliance, marriage and +500 relations, you declare war and steamroll your only friends

>>167971162
Should do, from the looks of the changes they're going to add in for the 28th release you'll be able to specify exactly where a map shows up and also what it's battle type is, ambush, settlement field battle etc.

>>167971641
>>167972854
To be honest this? They've never been able to get the AI working right in sieges and I don't know if they ever will.

Is there some way to remove trees? I can't see a fucking thing when fighting in forests.

>>167974035
that's unironically a big problem in Warhammer

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>>167973958
they relaxed around the sax', their own fault

>>167973958

I used this mod for my Saxon campaign, made it alot more fun

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=397996011

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>tfw Eustis got trapped behind enemy lines after fighting like a hero
I like how this let's me make stories for my units, and I have nowhere else to post it.

350 men made it to the landing, with Eustis getting WIA

>>167974930
classic eustis

>>167974035
there should be a graphical option that shows up in the side menu when you hold down space that will remove foilage when you are close to it, making it a lot easier to see what is going on in forest battles. It comes with an option to have it on at all times, which is what I have it set at

>>167974930
wat gaem

>>167975919
Ultimate General: Civil War. It's Darth's game, so it's somewhat related.

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G O B L I N S

>>167976119

Looks pretty interesting but I'm not a fan of that era. Does the game hold up on its own in management, battles, etc.?

After finishing a very hard Greenskin campaign, I can safely say that I'm never going to touch this faction.

What absolute dog shit units the Greenskins have, it's ridiculous.

>>167976828
Their roster is so cool, they're like Empire but more fun.
You actually have to manage the morale of your troops, like in other Total War games, rather than blobbing everything together and group moving.
Nothing you have stands out as completely over-powered, like other factions.
Actual meaningful magic support.

>>167976828
Yeah. They had tons at launch (I think they were the most complete in vanilla), but most are pretty poor qualit. Black Orcs and Arcahnorks are the only redeeming aspect to there rooster.

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FUCK what an epic defence. AND NOW WE ARE GETTING MUSKETERS!
This is so fucking good. I am getting my hope back.

>>167976615
I like it. It's in Early Access so it's still buggy and needs balancing, but there's plenty I like. Slowish battles where morale and positioning is important, and building and outfitting your army between battles. Training your officers, balancing replenishing with veterans (expensive) vs rookies (lose exp), cheap guns, good guns, captured guns etc. I you didn't play UG: Gettysburg you can pirate that to check how the battles are, though the management between battles is new.

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>>167977169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY81yYFzgiU#t=04m35s

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>>167977169

Will the next patch actually change the meta at all?

>Greenskins:
spam black orcs and big boss goon squad, sometimes sprinkle big'uns depending on faction

>VC:
spam GG, take Vlad or Red Duke, spams zombies everywhere, Blood Knights, Mortis Engine against greenskins since zombies shut down missiles (-14LD for zombies attacking the rear LEL)

>Bretonnia:
flying goon squad w/ peasant blob

>Dorfs:
Triple-Rune cycling, cheap-mid infantry, expensive lord

>WElfs:
Tree deathstar or eternal guard, with a skirmish detachment

>Chaos:
Triple Shaggoth and lord diving

>Beastmen:
Triple Gorebull, Morghur, the rest doesn't matter

I mean only Empire can pull off more than 2 decent builds. You make a game with all these units and none of them matter. Aside from having even more of a flying goon squad I don't see Brets changing much either.

>>167977169
>>167977627
>gunpowder
>in M2

anon...

>>167977002
Their ranged units are complete garbage. Orc Boyz get rekt by almost everything. The first step up, Big Uns take two turns for whatever reason to recruit and while they usually can get a good number of kills they die in huge numbers aswell.

Giant is a waste against almost every single faction, we don't even have to mention trolls. The cav has god awful stats and while the spider is a decent monster it just takes ages to get the research, building and recruitment done.

Fighting Chaos has been an absolute pain with that shitshow of a roster.

>>167977705
Game was made for single player, very east to tell.

>playing Archaon
>smash Baersonling's landing
>Awaken, subjugate them by attacking them so they're forced to be my vassals
>go smash some other nearby towns so they have room to grow
>the ignore the easily takeable ruins and decide to go attack Kislev
>I go help them destroy Kislev's nothern cities
>they don't settle a single city in Kislev
>they go attack the dwarf settlement to the north
>Kislev destroys their cities to the south
>they never retake their land
>the other three tribes are equally retarded

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING ABOUT THE END OF DAYS, NOT BABYSITTING! GOD FUCKING DAMNIT!

[autistic screeching]

>>167977893
From my experience its not that different around turn 150+, you and the AI can just spam more of the above or the AI mindlessly spams something stupid

>>167977956
They can't settle in Kislevs territory you dumbass.

>>167978108
THERE'S PLENTY OF FORMER SKAELING AND VARG RUINS RIGHT AROUND THEM
DON'T MAKE ME SACRIFICE YOU TO KHORNE, FUCKBOY

>>167977705
It basically changes almost every patch, so yeah

>>167977705
next patch is changing flying mechanics to remove the ability to perform hit and runs with fliers. CA says that they are going to make the time that a flier has to stay grounded after landing much longer than it is now

>>167977705
Hard to predict, but hopefully.

Needs avatar conquest or a mode where you can pick your army but not know even what race you'll be up against.

>>167977847
I'm thinking more of the virtue of their units in general, rather than their campaign availability.
Ranged units are okay as long as you're not fighting stunties or chaos. Which doesn't happen that much I guess.
Da Rusty Arrers act as a power multiplier for other missile units though, and can be pretty damn good.
Mangy Marauders are probably the only good missile cav in the game outside of marauder horsemasters.

Cav is fairly lackluster yeah, but I'm cool with that, they're good enough. And having a shiny anvil with a shitty hammer is different to how most armies play.

Orc Boyz are mediocre but they're what a generic infantry unit should be. Giant wrecks vamps for the most part. Trolls can get fucked in the ass easily but serve a decent AP option if you use them like VC use crypt horrors.

By the time Chaos comes around you fuck them in the ass with Black Orcs.

Also again on the range subject, doom divers are probably the best artillery in the game for their cost.

>>167978108
they can if you use the conquer anywhere mod that anyone who isn't retarded should use

>>167978180
Baersonlings don't have the trait for resettling a lot, so they never do. It's best to become friends with Skaeling and let them wipe out the rest. Or even better: ignore the tribes as soon as you have the money to go south.

>>167978191
No it doesn't. VC and Empire have always been at the top and the only thing that has changed is their elite infantry they spam is a little less effective which hasn't changed VC except for getting a better cav unit. Empire can't as reliably go with a Greatsword deathstar but still do with other builds.

The only one that is new is the triple shaggoth build and Morghur replacing Khazrak. The rest are as old as the damn game.

>>167978258
I remember that, I'll miss how damn salty Ninjahund gets when he has to sit in a dorf blob for 12 minutes getting whaled on mercilessly.

Are there any spells in the lore of death that are objectively not worth using? doom & darkness is a pretty big hit to leadership when paired with a rear charge and fear, and I've stopped units from crumbling with aspect of the dreadknight more than once.

>>167978496
But only retards that like Radious and no floppy hats actually use that mod.

>>167978496
That is some low quality bait m8.

>>167978519
Don't I actually have to awaken the tribes as part of the quest?
Or is that just for the Slaaneshi fuccboi Not-Fulgrim lord?

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Found the rapetrain.

It's just for Sigvald, and I think there's a mod that let's you unlock him some other way. Caring too much about Norsca is the number one mistake people do as Chaos.

Fug.
>>167979052 meant for >>167978874

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>>167979171
I really like the idea of leading the tribes south, tbqh. Just upset they're inept and not the WARRIORS OF THE APOCALYPSE like I imagined them to be.

Here's some OC describing how I feel.

>>167978691
>No it doesn't. VC and Empire have always been at the top

I meant army comps and so on. Those factions are still up top yeah. A lot of comps change mostly because they become overused though.

>>167978952
Jesus. What's your plan for the mongol menace?

>>167979576
Empire hasn't really changed in how they're good. Which is a shame, because most of their cool tools go unused. It's just always good lords/heroes and demigryphs plus cost effective infantry.

At least Vamps have changed between lore of death being too strong to lore of vampires being too strong to lore of vampires being too strong in a different way.

>>167979712
One thing is for certain. Expansion in the east is too dangerous 4 me. I might try to avoid them overall, wait for the Timurids or muster up a kind of army that can kill them. Perhaps an army of trebuchets/cannons or musketers.
For now my fight continues in the middle of Europe

>>167979887
Dwarfs and chaos has changed too. And the beastmen gorebull was often countered with gunpowder. Then harpies became an option.

What's up with Ungrim/Grombrindal always 'pushing their heads forward' like they're about to charge like a bull or something? Is this a thing they just do?

>>167980108
Oh yeah for sure. Though Stunties have gone from being shit to being strong in the most obnoxious way possible.

I was just commentating on the two big boys.

>>167980023
I haven't played M2 for years, is there a scripted path that the Mongols follow or is it as random as any other faction?

>>167979576
I haven't seen that. VC, Empire, Greenskin strategies haven't changed. Even with nerfs to greatswords, grave guardGW, demis its just an elite spam across the board.

If you don't win the elite game you rely on a goon squad (Gorebulls, paladins, gobbo big boss) to win you the game. Most things added to the game are either tossed or are used as a tool to the same base comp.

Now Empire and VC got KILLER lord options this patch too (albeit Boris has been around but was made great).

>>167980108
Harpies still aren't good enough, Dorfs just rune-spam which is really fun playing against 2 runes of Wrath and Ruin and the Master. Chaos just got a unit to keep the boys fighting still its either 3 shaggoths or 4 manticores (2 feral, 1 sorc, 1 lord). Despite all the chaos buffs they are not that strong and rely on chesse

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>>167980337
I have not followed their patterns, but they seem to stick to the middle east. On very hard the AI tends to travel by boats, I have seen 2, but it does not seem that they are sending any troops overseas.

>>167980337
They appear in either russia or the middle east. The thing is that Egypt generally always dominates the area, so the point that Mongols will brush up against them while they're still operating at full horde aggression. And then they hunt them to the ends of the earth.

>>167980023
Baiting them into attacking a strong castle works well if I remember correctly. As long as you have enough spears to hold the gate you'll slaughter them.

>>167964979
Fucking Greeks. The ruined Greece!

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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>>167981925
*trashes it*

>>167981925
Best post in the entire thread.

Is raiding stance the only way to get income on beastmen?

Hello, some fag said that modifying the CreamAPI can unlock the DLCs, anyone has a guide?

Can the game "phone" back and get yourself blocked out from playing?

I'm a Jew so fuck the DLCs I guess

>>167982238
No, you sack and raze almost like chaos.

>>167982863

Yeah for favour but I want actual income so I can have more than one army.

>>167982998
That's the fucking point of hordes m8.
Always negative income but a treasury that can stomach it for ages due to large lump sums of sacking and razing. Raiding gives you a bit of income but the point isn't to get income as hordes.
Beastmen lords do have a skill that reduces maintenance of their army quite substantially though.

>>167982998
You do realize you can (and should) be in the negative all the time with hordes after a while, yes? It doesn't matter when you have enough money to pay for the upkeep for 10-20 turns and you're increasing that amount every time you sack a city.

>>167983209
>>167983289

it just seemed like a risky move I'm quite new at the game, thanks for the advice gents I think I'll listen to it.

All cavalry armies are no joke. I realize you can just use spears, archers and your own cavalry to fuck them but with a regular army it was zero fun.

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>>167982371

>>167983954
Come on, is there a guide or something and a list of things to avoid and shit?

Just got muh PC fixed. Haven't played since Rome 2 released. What's essential now? I picked up Warhammer obviously, just give me the essentials for Warhammer and Rome 2. Good to be back.

>>167984584
Your PC was broken since rome 2?

>>167985279
Yeah, I went full normie for the past 4 years.

What do goods in warhammer actually give you? Are they only worth it for trade? Why do you need so much of it?

If you're VC or whatever, is it worth building them?

>>167986116
Good for dorfs and humans, useless everywhere else. Iron is decent in a greenskin recruitment province.

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>tfw the Glorious Death hits you

>playing Napoopan
>set up light cavalry behind fresh line infantry since I figured they would fire over the line infantry and maximize firepower
>instead they blast the backs of my line and they break instantly due to it combining with the fire from enemy line infantry.
Bravo CA.

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>>167987456

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Any news on when CA is adding the best faction, Sigmarines?

I want blood and gore, but realistic. I tried the "less blood less gore" mod but the game refuses to launch with it activated saying "one of your mods are updating".

>>167987974
kys my man

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>>167987974
excellent bait good sir, not that I myself am against every single thing added to AoS model wise but adding those dudes was an absolute joke

>>167988262
there are extra instructions, look for the download link in the comments

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>>167987456
i tried making an ms paint painting to demonstrate how you are an idiot but i couldn't do it, the lines don't add up

you are right i guess

this is how far i got

>>167987456
>playing napoopan
>using two light cavalry together
>send them to attack
>they attack through each other and shoot each other in the back.

Great job boys.

>playing sneaky furries
>stalk through the heart of the empire shitting in their water, pissing on their idols, and just worshiping the chaos gods in general
>entire Empire is at like, 80% corruption, chaos rebels start popping up, cities are unhappy
>all because some goatmen are nearby

This must be what being a muslim feels like. 10/10

>>167988664
>playing Napoppan
>send unit to attack
>as they walk forward they stumble and impale themselves on their own bayonets

thanks CA

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>Bretonnia is taking forever to come out
>Expansion with Dark Elves, High Elves, Lizardmen and Skaven won't be here until fall or some shit
>Needed features or completely new ones won't come for months

I'm becoming depressed. There's only so many times I can replay the campaign. New games coming out suck dingos. For Honor blows (unfortunately). Conan Exiles needs like a year to be good. Nioh isn't on PC.

;_;

>>167988751
Everyone who ever played empire once lost their general to a bunch of stakes in the ground at one point.

>>167988783
Read a book. Go paint minis. Discover a new talent/hobby.

>>167988864
fucking normie fag

Why do some units randomly just get surrounded by bright lights? I'm outside of combat, just walking to a good position before I attack, nothing exciting (warhammer)

>>167988890
>we have a board for books; /lit/
>we have a board for painting minis; /tg/
>we have several board for creative shit
>somehow this makes me the normie

Maybe you should lurk more. Only visiting one board is for normies, reee.

>>167988975
It's a passive buff going off I think. Check your Lord's or Heros' abilities

>>167988975
>I'm outside of combat
If it's red, you're taking attrition. Either because you're orcs/beastmen and you ain't being fighty, or you're in chaos/vampire lands.

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>>167989058

>>167989193
what did he mean by this?

>>167989235
That he (the one who posted the shirt) is a flaming faggot and is mad that he got fucking told.

>>167989058

not him but I'm actually too busy being depressed over being in love with a fictional manga character

really sucks

>>167989340
>too busy being depressed over being in love with a fictional manga character

FAGGOT
What's his name, anon?

>>167989058
it's pretty clear that you are talking out of your ass and never spent significant time on any of the boards you mentioned yourself

>>167988857
Can confirm. Also to a friendly cannon ball one time.

I lost a whole set of cannons once because they all pointed at each other in a line.

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>Enough information to be hyped about upcoming patch

>Not enough information that threads don't degrade to various shitposting

Th-this week's the week right?

>>167989713

What information about the next patch is there? Got any links, chap?

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truth

Can someone post the Shogun 2 roll chart?

I learned my lesson from last time, and I'll try not to vassalize everyone this go around. CAN I GET A NIPPON DEUS VULT?

>>167989620
>Infantry are are charging your cannons
>your own infantry catches them in the flank and forces them to melee.
>the charge halted, makes a perfect target for canister
>If only your cannons can fire into the center of mass
>All your cannons shoot
>all aimed at the guy at the furthest right
>directly into your own infantry's flank.
>Your center collapses.

Great times.

Best historical mods for me2?

>>167988783
It could be worse.
You could be waiting for ________Bannerlord________

This is getting a release update soon:
http://battlebrothersgame.com/

Endless Space 2 should be finished over the next couple of months.

CK2 and Stellaris DLC are probably a month away at most.

>>167990027
just pick a color dude

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>>167989954
Just additions to the Bretonnian roster which at this point we know includes: Questing Knights, Grail Pilgrims with reliquae, and HippoKnights. The latter being the most 8th edition thing I can think of for Bretonnia.

All of these are via the social media posts we are all familiar with. Like I said, enough to make the mouth water but nothing satisfying.

Yo /twg/, I'm going to be "DJing" some music for a sports game, where I have to play some energetic music whenever there's downtime, and I'd like some recommendations for some thunka thunka to sprinkle in between the normie music

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>>167990381

>>167990249
I want to kiss her feet.

>>167984584
Please answer before I just buy everything and regret it.

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>>167990381

>>167990249
I want her to step on my dick

>>167989070
Could be, but it's just some units
>>167989174
It's white, I'm Empire

Also, the battle has paused and I can't unpause it. First time it's happened. Anyone know any fixes? Tried adjusting the speeds, escaping, etc

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>>167990449
>>167990595

I'd put my lance in her grail if you know what I mean. The human riding her would be decent sloppy seconds as well

>>167990595
>>>/r9k/

>>167990381
I hate to break it to you, anon, but the most music we get is Jeff van Dyke's stuff for Rome1 and Medi2

best mod for attila, go.

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>>167990381
Play some 2hu beats.

>>167990860
vanilla or FOTS

>>167990443
>>167990567
>>167990747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhEN2AKtPI

Van Dyck is good, I just want to be able to tell myself that I build the playlist in cooperation with /twg/ my only friends

>>167990923
>master1200

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>>167964979
>Það eru Danir í þessum þræði á þessarri stundu

>>167991163
Hvorfor kan island ikke lide danskere? =^(

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>>167959894

>>167988783
Tell me about it, but hey hopefully the community maps might help.

There's always the Medieval 2 mods...

CA please hurry up, I need my fix

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>>167991030
Shogun 2 music is so good.

Why didn't they hire the same guy to make Warham music?

>>167990381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlB1lHeUr3E Try this.

>>167991321
Því þeir eru danskir

Danir eru negrar Norðurlandanna

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Downloading Warhammer right now.
I kind of want to start my first game as Orks, even though Empire and Dwarf are recommended for newcomer
Having played Rome 2, are Orks like barbarian faction (I saw people talking about Greenskin confederation and the likes

>>167992553
>confederation
Every race can recruit most of the same-race factions into their "confederation". Basically, that means you take control of them. They don't exist as a faction any more, all their lands and armies are yours. Usually done to those who really like you/you have great military precedence over.

Orcs and Dwarves share the same settlement limitations. Meaning you can inhabit any dwarf settlement or any orc settlement, but not a human/vc/elf/norsca settlement.

Basically though, you want to be fightin'. If you're fightin', your armies gain WAAAGH! which can spawn a free upkeep-less 20 stack army that you can point at your enemies. If you're not fightin', your WAAAGH! goes down and you'll suffer attrition if it's low

>>167992553
They're Orcs

>Broke down and bought all the warhammer DLC
I feel so weak minded
Beastmen oughta be fun at least

>>167990027
then do Otomo or convert as Shimazu

>>167993227
at least wait til the 14th to see if they put it on sale during the event you fucking idiot

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>>167992870
Not same anon but they are the same thing. One has dakka, one has goblins that are actually used, thats about it. I like the "k" because warhammer/40k orks actually have character to them outside of being pawns (LotR), don't try to be a noble human race and suck at it(WoW), and aren't retarded own-foot shooters with nothing interesting about them at all (ES).

>>167993227
Rough start. Mind the elves. Tried to seige down a city twice now and elves came dashing across the map to fuck with me.

>>167992730
During a run as Clan Angrund, I actually managed to confederate the High King's faction because the Bloody Spearz/Greenskins were fucking them so hard, they just accepted confederation so they wouldn't have to directly worry about anything. Did I mention the Dawi lost the Badlandsbowl HARD? They lost their capital, I had to take it back.

It's funny to think about it since I couldn't get them to agree to a fucking non-aggression pact.

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>Just held the Northern Italy/Venice bridge in Napooan against a combined Austria/Prussian force that had overwhelming artillery advantage as well as multiple regiments of Swiss grenadiers on hard__ and my general gained no traits for this great victory.
Viva la revolución, I guess.
I found out during the fight that while that +10 range bonus light infantry/cavalry have over infantry isn't much, it's just enough to be able to shoot across the river without fearing retaliation fire.

>>167990039
This. This fucking shit gets me all the time in Shogun Fall of the mammaries. Why the fuck do my cannons aim for the end of unit lines? Are you guys fucking retarded? Hit the center jesus christ

>>167994049
You could say that's almost a thing Warscape artillery does in every game except for Napoleon/Memepire. It's so goddamn weird.

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Is today the day?

>>167990039
>>167994049

It's an old stop-gap thing they programmed in to stop artillery being to effective against the AI that they never adressed. You have to manually aim them shits.

>>167993285
Fuck off. Orcs are orcs, orks are orks

When you call orcs orks I immediately know you're a fucking retard who deserves to die

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What are you doing over there Sweeds my friend?

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So I was told Ultimate General: Civil war should be discussed here since it's made by the supposedly shittiest TW modder ever. Is this accurate?

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>>167995592
I thought shittiest TW modder ever was Radious.

>>167995592

>shittiest

kinda a stretch, darthmod empire wasn't thaaat bad

I really liked gettysburg, is the full game gud?

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>>167995396
>you make arguments that aren't mine how dare you, pls die

>>167992553
Orcs*

Factions don't really compare to any faction out of historical titles.

Just remember that you start out at war with another Greenskin Tribe, and the main Stuntie faction.
You'll kill the Greenskins and then pat yourself on the back.
And then the Stunties will come down with twenty broken stuntie warriors and fuck you in the ass.
Never forget that the Stunties are your greatest threat.
Azhag is trash, make sure you go Grimgor.

>>167995668
Well the anon i spoke to thought that Darth was. But that's just his opinion and not fact i suppose.

>>167993227
They'll be fun if you play the Grand Campaign.
If you play the Mini-Campaign you'll want to kill yourself.

>>167995730
It's better then Gettysburg by a big strech. Darth has pretty much improved everything, one of the best things being that now you can man walls and earthworks. I always thought it was a shame you couldnt man the stone wall at Picketts charge in Gettysburg.

The only real downside is that you can't order your artillery to only fire a certain type or round, cannister for example.

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>>167991996
Bra kära Islänska broder! Ge dansken va han tål!

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>try the Mousillon mods
>it's all shit

Why are mods so trash?

>>167995889
So the mini campaigns are basically just some shit they slapped together in five minutes to pump up the price of the race packs, right

>>167996807
Correct.

>>167996807
Pretty much.

>>167997038
>>167997068
cool

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>>167996727
Lack of tools to really stretch the game's engine and make unique assets.

And general laziness. Shit, any of you guys remember the SWAT and molotov units for Rome2? At least the modder manipulated the models to make them look more unique. Cancer as hell, but different.

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>>167995731
>>167996727
It is the nature of the beast.

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>be tokugawa
>play nice, get spitroasted by ikko ikki/hattori AND imagawa
>break vassalge, then all of japan and korea hate me for eons
>then get spitroasted by hojo and takeda

GEE WHIZ I SURE MISS MY INFINITE ASHIGARU STACKS

SEND HELP

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Rock the boat!

>>167998245

>Marienburg

Why make such a thing

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KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA!!!

>>167987974
You didn't hear it from me, but the second expansequel will introduce them.

>>167999578
>>167999578
Thanks Darren.

>>167998416
failed attempts of making their own steam tank, the main failure is not figuring out how to shrink the boiler, so instead they made it as small as they could and built around it

>>167998416
They're the richest folks in the world, they often fund impractical vanity projects.

Ded general.

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What does the damage walls hero action do? I successfuly used it and then proceeded to assualt a city but the walls towers and gates all look perfectly fine.

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It's Alberic of Bordelaux.

Also they aren't referring to the secret prize, this is about what they'll be showing off at that PCGamer event.

>>168002316
Supposed to create holes in the walls.
I've never used it.
Did you use it on the same turn you assaulted?

>>168002510
He isn't a mystery.

Why do people keep saying the Chaos Campaign is shitty? I am having more fun with the chaos campaign than with any other. While all of you SOUTHERN MILKDRINKERS decide to spend most of their campaign in Norsca, wrecking the Varg and Skaeling's shit while slowly amassing cash, I have realized that the true destiny of Chaos lies to the SOUTH! As soon as the campaign starts, you should be heading to Sylania, wear you can wreck the shit out of Mannfred and get soem starting income. Then, go to the Badlands, where the harsh conditions will insure only the strongest of your warriors survive. Once all of the Greenskins are purged from the deserts, move north and ransack the empire. It's a lot more fun and satisfying then the typical Norsca grindfest most people seem to opt for.

>>168002510
How is Alberic a mystery lord if we know he is a lord?

>>168002510
BORIS SOON

>>168002639
I haven't played a Chaos campaign but I've discussed them a lot before.
What difficulty are you playing on?
If you head south too early you get like nine stacks chasing you.

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>>168002510

Why did they choose this Alberic of Bordeleaux guy? What makes him so special to include as a >Legendary< Lord?

>>168002316
It damages the walls.

>>168002767
Very hard campaign normal battle. All empite armies seem to desert me when I enter Sylvania, which I force march to after getting the chaos warrior building.

>>168002567
>>168002646

He's a mystery to the average TWWH player that doesn't read obscure SEGA press release (read: most of them). CA never officially revealed him through any of their social media channels, so he's still a mystery.

Damn, I have a gtx750 ti and Warhammer push the gpu to 99% most of the time on campaign map. Gonna underclock it ortherwise the card will fry itself

>>167992870
>>167995804
>Orcs
My bad, somehow I thought it was K instead of C

>>167992730
>>167995804
Got it, thanks for the tips and head-ups

>>168002316
It decreases the health of the city's walls and towers. They do have health, it's just very large.
Spam your agent a few more times, or upgrade his sabotage skill, to see some holes.

>>168003327
I did reduce graphic settings and set porthole to 2d but it didn't improve much, this is ridiculous

>>168003629
did u active unlimited video memory or nah

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I've only done Empire and Dwarf campaigns so I'm confused by how people will try to play Bretonnia. As the former two, I always try to go for a fuckload of expansionism and end up taking almost half the map by the end.

How will a smaller faction like Bretonnia work? 10-15 settlements at most, and then what? 3-4 stacks at most? Might be able to commit 2 stacks at most to helping out vs. Chaos or something.

I imagine that there will be some irredentism. Perhaps some expansion into Tilea/Estalia and Marienburg. Otherwise yeah, Bretonnia is taking a bit of a backseat.

>>168003828
nope, i leave it unticked

>>168003993

I feel like my main role in the campaign would be to support the Empire in their endeavors so they can be the great protectors. Taking Marienburg might fuck them over too hard since it's a great source of income.

>>168004235
cuck

>>168004235
Yeah, I imagine that it will depend on how aggressive you want to be. There's nothing wrong with taking the AI's lands if you use them, but it might be an unnecessary conquest.

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>>168002769
The only thing I see is that he is a Bretonnian Lord who is not a Grail Knight. His city worships Manann more than the lady.

Something something discipline, something something not too many knights.

Tancred was the expected alternate lord but it might be alright.

>Bretonnia is coming out in February!
>it's the last possible day of fucking Februrary
>they will probably wait til about 1 seconds before March starts

fuck you CA

Man, Beastmen take a while to get the ball rolling, but it's fun as fuck when it happens. Archaon is off ramming his cock into the Empire and i'm down here just burning some elves and setting Athel Loren on fire. Being Neutral to Archaon is fucking great, I don't feel any sense of urgency. Being a horde race is great because I don't feel the need to conquer or defend anything. I just want to raid moar

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>>168003885
I once did a Bret playthrough with the assistance of mods. No unit mods, tho.

Basically, by the time you should've taken all of Bretonnia proper (Mousillion's gonna be a bitch), Chaos appears. Then, it would be time to be the boy-scout in chainmail you are and go help the AI give Archaon his proper place. By the by, vanilla units forced me to just drown the enemy in grail knight hordes. Basically, you hate the Main Character in the beginning, but then you ride backseat for Karl Franz to steal all your glory for basically saving the world - something no amount of drinking from the lady's grail can do.

>>168004847
Oh yeah, I did that before Tree Hitler was a thing...

Bret's fucked.

Same anon, btw.

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AE WHEN
MKTW WHEN

>>168003327
>>168003629
Seems like limiting fps fixes that gpu usage.
It was 70-80fps, I have set fps limit to 60 and now usage hovers around 70~80,

>>168003159
They revealed Bordelaux as playable.
Pretty much the same thing.

>>168003327
Orks are the race in 40k.
Orcs are a sub-race of the Greenskins race in Fantasy.
They share a very similar design, and the settings allude to be related, but it is never outright stated that Orcs are fungus monsters like Orks.

This is a fairly recent game, 750 ti is aging a bit by now.
I play on large on nearly max settings off a 960 4gb version. Lags moderately on anything with more than four armies though.

Also might consider an SSD if you don't have one. The loading time between battles and the campaign is pretty slow off a HDD.

Empire and Greenskins are still missing quite a bit of shit. Dwarfs and Vampires have 90%+ of their 8th edition rosters, so they can fuck off.

Empire
Legendary Lord
>Marius Leitdorf, strongest Empire melee duelist and has a campaign gimmick revolving around being a nutter.

Generic Lord
>Wizard Lord, could provide utility for the Empire assuming CA ever fixes caster lords and magic in general.
>muh templar grand master, fuck off he's a shittier Empire general

Hero
>Master Engineer, the Empire has a lot of warmachines and artillery, this is pretty self explanatory.

Units
>Huntsmen, anti-large ranged infantry who can stalk and vanguard deploy
>Celestial Hurricanum, army buffing chariot like an opposite day Mortis Engine

Greenskins
Legendary Lord
>Gorbad Ironclaw,

Generic Lord
>Savage Orc Great Shaman, red tree to buff savage orcs, and brings Big Waaagh, basically generic Wurrzag

Hero
>Black Orc Boss, basically a wight king

Units
>Goblin Spear Chukka, cheap early artillery option for greenskins, anti-large
>Mangler Squigs, big as fuck squigs, unbreakable, no armor, high damage
>Snotling Pump Wagon, the most orky thing in the entire WHFB TT universe, can mount exploding spores to it and turn it into a VBIED, owns so hard

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>>168005170
>Tree Hitler

Man, I just had the most satisfying series of turns as Beastmen.
I Burned Athel Loren and all those territoreis north and around where I am. Tree Hitler had all of those, and all of the vaults, which apparently Angrund took from them.

Now Tree Hitler has TWO (2) Settlements and I couldn't be happier. The fucker kept chasing me around the area, trying to squish me with three broken stacks when I was starting this campaign. Now I've burned his forest, raided his lands, and the DWARVES are going to finish him off. Fucking kek.

>>168005532
Without the fungus thing how do orcs and gobboz make more of themselves? No sex system, no females, and the fungus spore release on death make sense for why they want to fight and we there are so damn many.

>>168005680

FUCK, forgot the description for Gorbad

>Grimgor that gets a mount, also leads a horde but can settle human and greenskin territory.