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Bump inbetween the f<3<3<3ing death timers edition

News & Patch Notes: https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news

MMR tracking (community) and other information:
https://agora.gg/
https://fury.gg/
https://paragon.gg/

More hero build info: https://paragondb.info/calc
http://paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Paragon_Wiki

User IDs: pastebin.com/tMqksTK4
If yours is not listed post it in the thread

Previous Thread: >>167850449
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>>167958960
Aurora is balanced you freaks
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What's POPPIN niggers.
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Gonna play kwang today, do I build ability PEN or go full CRITS
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>>167960134
>ability pen
You go lifesteal power and laugh away the pain
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>tfw you have a stupid fucking riktor
FUCK
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Why do people still try to use Kallari? It doesn't make sense, she's crap. Also what's the min level one should take on Orb Prime?
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>>167960329
I went full armor and Ability pen, is lifesteal really good on him? I know its good on my crit sparrow deck. Guess its time to give both these decks a shot then
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>>167961451
Because in the right hands she's a god
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>>167961451
She good if the player is good
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How long has everyone been playing for?
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>>167964249
3 days, it's pretty good thus far
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>>167964249
10 days in total and I still make basic mistakes
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>>167960329
>>167962216
It is, on old map I made a joke deck for him with loads of lifesteal just for fun and enemies were literally unable to hurt me 1v1 as long as I could hit them.
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>>167964249
Since April I think or somewhen around that.
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>>167964454
>>167964546
You should add your name to the pastebin. I'll play with you at some point if you want, I'm new too.
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>>167964249
Time played is 4 days and 15 hours.
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>>167964889
Already there bruh, Mezmezzy
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>>167964889
I'm not new, but I'm not some kind of pro either since I play mostly for fun. Would gladly play with some newbies and show you the ropes if you need. Username's sargos, I think it's already in the pastebin although written with capital letter. I don't know if this makes a difference while searching for users.
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>>167962216
You seriously don't need ability pen, I mean I hope you realize basic pen exists.

Also just stack on top of his lifesteal and build power. Kwang is the only hero in the game with spellvamp/spell lifesteal
More power you do more you heal.
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>>167964889
I did add my name, its the last one on the pastebin
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>>167964249

About 20 days (400 hours).

actual graphics
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>>167965069
K just powering up lifesteal and power. Gonna put some armor just for some over the top survivability
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>mfw other thread died

I thought the dream died for a second
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>>167965804
OP here
Doing my best to keep the dream real
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>>167965952

You're not mentioning the key selling point of the game.
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Who /making it/ here? 7 wins in a row and they finally raising them elo averages
P L U S 8
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>>167966398
thanks for the negative win rite lel
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>>167966398
At gold already :)
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>>167966779
We got literally an afk for both of those losses.
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Make sure to bump the /v/ threads so we get more exposure

>>>/v/367021823
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>>167966352
Being a 3rd person LoL/Dota2?
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>>167968213

No, that's SMITE's selling point.

Paragon's is more actual than that.
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>>167967704
No
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>>167965952
Alright then fellas, post some real fukken graphics, my dudes
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>mfw listening to Space Jam thanks to the Steel player
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AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAA
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What if Epic fixes the meta by just dropping viral meme skins like this

Imagine if they did if for Iggy
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>>167971119
They give out free skins through various methods.
They did something where you play 10 games of Paragon amd you got the new Twinblast skin free
Then they gave everyone a free skin on Christmas and pumpkin head Murdock on Halloween.
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>>167970996
YOU BE WEARING THAT LIKE THE DIRTY SLUT YOU ARE FOR THE REST OF THE FEW DAYS REMAINING
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>>167971865
Nah
I ain't playing Serath until the event is over bitch
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God damn it BUMP
G, stop making those stupid meme shill threads on /v/ for fuck's sake, people hate those, are you too autistic to realise that? Make normal threads if you want to lure more people in, that's how we managed to start up the general in the first place.
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>>167973751

Right now that thread is doing pretty well and you're the only one complaining, so lol
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>>167971119
>Imagine if they did if for Iggy
don't they already plan to?

>>167973751
The thread just needs some interesting screenies so that people know about it.
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>>167973849

I'll take more 4K actual graphics shots when I'm not at work
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>>167973795
We always complain every time multiple times. Thats why your general thread was killed off. The only reason this thread exists is because someone else made a non autistic thread on /v/ and shit worked out. Literally do the math.
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>>167974028
>Thats why your general thread was killed off.

Very wrong.

1) I didn't make the general threads.

2) I killed them by running the Discord, and many anonfags hated my guts and kept reposting shit from the Discord into the threads without saying anything in the Discord. Nobody ever played together unless I was there and urging them to. Someone tried starting another Discord to spite me but they couldn't keep it active like I could, by talking regularly about other videogames besides Paragon (which enraged the same dramatic faggots).

3) Everyone was longing for Monolith and card crafting to solve all their (casual) problems with the game, so they gave up.

From the Pastebin, only a couple people from the old threads have returned.

The solution for you is to deal with it and stop being a bitch.
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>>167975284
>>167974028
Is this about the graphics? 860 here
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>>167975284
I was talking singular as in the thread you made after the last one died and you didn't even include the proper op. Of course we know you didn't make these threads. The fact that they are alive is proof that you didn't make it. I'm letting you know you are hurting us not helping us and I'm not alone in thinking this.

asking you to make non shitpost threads is all
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>>167975284

Also I had banned a couple people from the Discord. One of them had unironically called Steve Superville a "jew nigger" (repeatedly) and another was a literal child who had extremely dumb opinions that made me cringe, like Bloodborne being "more artistic" than "a 3D nonsense" like GTA V.

At any rate I'm not starting a new Discord for these threads and I've urged others not to, so if we play together I'll delete the server after each session.
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>Tfw your gideon is 1/11
Fuck you matchmaking
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>>167975548
>i banned people for saying nigger
>i banned people because i didn't like their opinions
Who is this guy? And why are his feelings and opinions better than everybody elses in parag?
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>>167975548
>At any rate I'm not starting a new Discord for these threads and I've urged others not to
Ever wonder if you were the problem?
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>>167975982

I love Paragon more than anyone else ITT, and for the longest, and I won't stand for my father being blasphemed against.
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>>167976264

No, they never played together at all in the Discord that didn't have me in it, they never took the game seriously, they always complained about scrub shit like not having fucking cards, and they kept unironically saying their clicker MOBAs they had thousands of hours and dollars invested into were superior. They were trash, and that's why they haven't come back.
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>>167976275
So you're a cringey homosexual autist that spams actual graphics and can't do anything right.
Ok
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>>167976435
>They did things I didn't like so I got rid of them and then spied on them so I can complain about nothing of import while claiming to not be a problem
Not even seeing how you projecting your feelings isn't a problem. Reddit is that way baby boy.
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>>167976435
>the Discord that didn't have me in it

Rather, I was there, but I wasn't saying anything.

To emphasize: The only time I saw anyone there playing together was when I was there initiating it. You Anons are too socially timid to play together, and this is the case in all of /v/ and everywhere on here except very specific cliques (Halo comes to mind).

>>167976607

Yes, and you are nothing.
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>>167977092
Please put on a trip so we can filter. You have serious issues.
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>>167977092
>focusing on some shitty discord shit

we are just asking you to cut back on your autism and stop shitposting. It's literally in the rules of this website.
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>>167977212

I would rather be passionate and have issues than be nothing and have nothing.

Why weren't you playing Paragon last year? What the fuck could you possibly have been doing that was more important? It had actual graphics.
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>>167977318
>It's literally in the rules of this website.

Why should I care? Why should anyone care? Who has the time to care?
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Who would have guessed G, you really ARE an autistic retard!

Whatever, I wanted to suggest adding player preferences to the discord. Like playing hours since we're from different time zones, whether they can play through some kind of voice chat(and what kind), maybe preferred characters/positions and skill etc. I think that would help a lot in setting up games.
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I mean, anyone who is actually offended by the phrase "actual graphics" or the sustained repetition of it is simply either too deprived or autistic to deserve this game to begin with.

Every thread on /v/ is already the same, exact same threads forever, so being offended by one that takes that to the most literal and logical extreme means you haven't realized the worthlessness of this site; i.e. you are retarded.
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>>167977732
That sounds like a good idea

>>167977483
>>167977898
>>167977372
You should really calm down if want this general to survive
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>>167978060

I've been calm but just look at what people are saying to me. My reaction is apropos.
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>>167977732
>>167978060
Fuck, I meant pastebin document, not discord!
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I mean at the very least I'd expect people to be offended by the threads (available on the archive) where I post my 7 inch cut next to a Paragon case, but those can easily be countered with a bigger dick and a better camera.
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>want to post screenie to make new thread
>it's 4.41 MB
>.41 bigger than the limit
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>>167978970

Save as .JPG. In modern Windows the compression is negligible.
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I don't care if you're carry, support, jungle, whatever: make room in your build for wards and put them down every chance you get.
I died about three times just now to a Kallari that had completely free reign because I was the only one warding.
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>>167979139

Every hero and every deck should have a shadow ward. You're only giving up a point of stats to have it.
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>>167978163
People don't care about the repetition of the "ackshual grafix line", it's just that whenever you use it, it becomes possible to recognise you as that one autistic faggot from the /v/ spam. You genuinely deserve every bit of hate you get; at least that cunt Lucifer has the decency to put on a trip so that people are able to filter his incessant faggotry
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>>167977092
>>167977318
Can someone tell it to fuck off
Nobody cares about his autism
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>>167979016
Thanks senpai

Also,
>get ganked by ulting Twinblast
>he can't aim for shit
>gets baited into your jungle gank squad
>along with his support
It's the little things

Also, made another thread after the previous one did so well
>>/v/367034167
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>>167979239
Nah, you need a minimum of six for a shadow ward (3 + 1-1-1, although I make it part of my damage, so it takes more).
Regular wards are pointless after early game.
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>>167979646
My bad
>>>/v/367034167
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>>167979704

I'm saying you lose one point of stats relative to a regular 3-cost equipment card.

Shadow wards have three points of stats, whereas regular equipment has four points.

The trade-off is well worth it.
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>>167979780
Good job, I'll bump it up a little.
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>>167979925
Try posting screenies to show off the game and make it look good.
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>>167980006
Don't have any unfortunately, but I'll try to keep the discussion running till I'm awake.
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>matchmaker trying to put me down
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>there are people in this thread who don't have a system with an i7 6950X with 128GB of DDR4 3200 RAM, a 1TB SAMSUNG 960 PRO, and 4x GTX TITAN XP in Quad-SLI
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>>167980203

s-sorry senpai :(
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>>167980203
Anyone in this thread at 1440p and a 1070?

I get like 80-90 fps with everything on max but if I shoot as a ranged hero I lose like 10 fps for a split second and every once in a while when shit gets real I can get hard stutters like 90 fps to 10 fps then back to 90. wat da fug. What settings are you using for silky smooth. I can't really see much difference because it's not constant low fps just random drops so I don't know if my settings are doing anything.
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>>167981512
Sometimes the game just lags. I have a 1080p with gtx1060. It's mostly smooth, but every once in a while, it just lags. It happens in replays too and you see characters pulling a King Crimson for about a second before they get back in action.
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>>167982009
Yea I've experience lag like I'm walking then suddenly it's like someone picked me up and then dropped me from the sky higher than I could possibly jump. But I'm talking about hard stuttering fps loss. I can never play someone like Riktor because of it and meme it up.
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>>167982180
Yeah, that never happened to me, and neither the fps drop. But maybe because I don't play at complete max, just a bit less than max. And I max it out at 60fps. Don't really need much more for this kind of game. Anything above 60 would only be necessary for really FAST racing games
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1080p, GTX 1070, maxed out, FPS uncapped.

I've never had a drop below 60 or stutter.

Try enabling Nvidia Fast Sync also, and set maximum pre-rendered frames to 1 in your Nvidia control panel.
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Whats everyones prefered role here? I love going mid with belica and Fey amd I also love playing sparrow
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>>167983795
I mostly go offlane since nobody else takes it. I just want all my lanes defended and if my teammates are too noob for that, then I'll just have to take it.
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>>167983795
Whatever the team needs at the moment, except for tank. I can't tank for shit.
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>our sparrow is 1/14
Garbage hero
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>>167984241
she really needs some sort of escape and most people can't position themselves properly
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>>167984241
>>167984564
I like playing, shes not garbage, just put a blink on your deck
cant really talk though my KDA with her has dropped from 4.0 to 2.5

If your support is shit, you are dead in the water till late game when you can crit everyone down
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>>167985203
I was the fucking support
Sparrow ran topside with Greystone and fed out of the ass despite my pings

We won anyways cuz I'm amazing but still
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>>167977732
This G person does not run the pastebin nor does he make the OP.
I do.
Reply to this post with your ID's number (eg regicide is the first on the list so he's 1) or ID, your time zone or any other notes and I'll add it.

Might as well since it's hard enough to bump this thread. Chop chop everyone
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>>167985203
>playing Sparrow
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>>167986796
Wow you're really good, all KDA's are way lower than you! Congratulation anon, what elo are you?
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>>167987140
Congratulations for what? I don't want to play immobile heroes and thus I don't die.

You need to calm down about your waifu
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>>167986578
Number 11 on the list, username shouldn't be with capital letter by the way, so correct it please while you're at it.

-Playing time, using Greenwich time zone to make it easier:
Monday-Thursday from 2pm to 7:30pm
Friday:4pm to midnight
Saturday:1pm to midnight
Sunday:1pm to 4pm

-I can use voice chat, preferably teamspeak but I can also use other methods. Not a native speaker, although I don't have trouble with English

-Can play any role except for tanks. Although I try my best I play mostly to chill out, so if you care about your competitive stats or whatever I'm not taking responsibility for fucking them up. Playing since early access so I can gladly help some newbies get hang of the game

This is probably a bit too long, shorten it if you want. Good luck with collecting info.
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>>167987887
You sargos? I put it in check it out
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>>167986578
Number 19 on that list

Easter timezone and my schedule changes week to week, If I have free time though, im playing video games so just invite if you want to play

I play fey, belica, sparrow and the fey. Trying to learn feng and kwang
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>>167988354
>No Tank Very Chill
Kek, I like it
Looking good, I think we should decide on one time zone for which we will calculate hours and inform which one it is on top of the document, that will make things easier. Other than that it's great. Going to sleep now, good luck
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>>167988451
Edited

>>167988761
If there's a majority timezone I'll convert the ones to that.
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Daily reminder be thankful we didn't get this
https://youtu.be/x_xeq9l7DNY
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I just want the legacy map back.
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>>167989219
I'm no.20
Weekdays 7pm-midnight
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>>167989608
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>>167989656
Timezone?
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>>167989656
GMT, that is
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>>167958960
How long have these threads been up for? I hope they don't die like last time, I got high hopes for this game.

I guess you could add me on the USER ID list

My IGN is Synonynonym and I'm on EST, schedule varies, I guess.
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>>167990768
3 days so far. 3rd thread.
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>>167991193
Good stuff
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Are there any other useful resources we could put in the OP? That deckbuilding video posted last thread was good.
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>get completely buttfucked by the enemy team the entire match
>from minute one, their Feng Mao ganked my lane incessantly, and was next to impossible to kill
>almost seems like he's going out of his way to kill me, really
>late game
>some ult combos and good play have most of them dead and Feng is alone defending mid
>our Twin and Gadget whittle him down to next to no HP, but decide to retreat
>but me? I have purple buff and a Steel Ult with this fucker's name on it
>he's sweating it under mid t2 tower, as he should
>10 seconds left on purple, his team will be coming back in any moment now
>COME ON AND SLAM
>mfw
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>>167993094
Honestly? I learned a lot from watching Nibori's videos, but linking a Youtube channel seems like shilling, so...
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>>167993378
Surely it's more important new players can easily access helpful information to get started and build the community than caving in to a few shitposters
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>>167993614
Well, it's kind of hard to justify it because you have to pay attention to hours of footage and actually kind of study it: his Murdock play is pretty solid, but only because he's very conservative in how he moves and engages. Unless they're going into the videos with an analytical mindset, all they're going to see are the epik killz bruh.
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>>167993841
Check out Androidizen's deckbuilding strategy video, pretty useful for a beginner to see
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>>167993275
>Pushing off lane with Belica against some bitch ass Muriel
>Suddenly Twinblast comes into try and gank
>bait them to my end
>both my junglers come out of the woodworks and they run into a fucking corner trying to get me and avoid them like a pair of hungry pussies
>drone 'em
>stun 'em
>bomb 'em
>Shoot to kill one
>ult the other
>mfw
Sometimes things just go right
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>>167993094
The best useful resources we can provide should be links that lead new players to what can help them better understand the game, otherwise we have an entire thread where people can ask questions.

The game is still in beta and still changing, so once cards change yet again whatever we link will get old. Also as with all mobas whomever players choose to regard as "legit" is their choice. Can't really start posting specific youtube channels or streams.
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>>167994425
>2 junglers
Your Carry must have been having a wonderful time.
Other than that, though, I bet it's nice to have reliable gankers.
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>>167994221
Cool, will do. I always like looking at beginners' tips to see if there's anything fundamental that slipped me by.
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>>167994547
>Can't really start posting specific youtube channels or streams
Yeah, I was just spitballing. Still picked up a lot of useful tricks from Youtube, though.
PSA: if one of your inhibitors is down, leave the one large minion in the wave as a buffer and kill everything else. It's a better form of the slow push and it sends huge waves up lanes (least ways it used to: maybe they changed their damage in a patch, I dunno).
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FUCKING. BUMP HOLY SHIT
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>>167996834
Thanks bruh, also, had a pretty bad losing streak lately. Fucking Narbash
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>>167994856
We won that match losing only one tower. Our junglers were fucking pro. One of them is here too, great guy. Every push and every pull had them rush in murder. Even got us the OP boost to end the match
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>>167997682
Were you playing Narbash or against one?
Every time I play Narbash I lose, cards honestly work against him even if you build mana.
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>>167997816
Against, build cast and strike. His ult fucking kills more reliably than ice cunt.
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>>167997907
His ult is very good, I haven't been against a good Narbash yet. And I do not think I want to be. They're probably asbad as Dekker mains.
What was his build like?
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>>167998037
From what I could tell, full hard hitting. He was basically a Kallari, but worse since his ult is AoE and our entire squad was down for the count at every encounter. We could only kill him once
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>>167998205
I think they split pushed too since they only needed 3 against us 5 considering that fucking ult
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Anybody else use Hunters Drink and Shamans drink? It's fucking good for mid to late game
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I think Sparrow is garbage but I'm going to try playing her again.
Pray for me
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>>167999996
My deck is called Falcon Punch
Primarily because I am testing out charging brute
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>>168000108
>my team has 4 ranged champs
Well I guess this is a loss
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This is fucking awful hoky shit
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>>168001857
It'll get better when they start marketing. Shame it isn't bigger.
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Time to roll.
Even, play another few matches of Paragon even after all these losses. Odd, jerk off and then go to sleep
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>>167998768
I use double Shaman's drink for offlane Countess./
>healer token + Mana potion
>back for Shaman's potions at earliest opportunity
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>>167997907
>His ult fucking kills more reliably than ice cunt.
Only if your bad with aurora
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>>168002528
Going to have the same sort of roll
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>lose 9 elo cuz of 15 death murdock 13 death fey and 14 death dekker
Wew never doing that again
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The most god awful people queue up at night holy shit
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>>167999996
>i think sparrow is garbage.
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>>168006909
t-teach me you ways senpai!
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>>168006909
Wtf why did I 1v1 a Murdock and win
Balance pls
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>>168007482
sparrow beats every adc 1v1 her passive makes her dps stupid
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>>168007587
Charging Brute and Sword of the Altar break her
Stop this
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>>168006909
Whats your deck my KDA with her is 2.44 or something like that. Im very inconsistent with her
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how i build my deck in order
hp pot
2 strike tokens

Brawlers ward (3 minor casts)
Adamant edge (3 minor casts)

Wind carvers blade (1 major cast 2 regular casts)
(sell strike token for another) Wind carvers Blade (1 Major cast 2 regular casts)
sell strike token for Wirling Wand (1 Major cast 2 regular casts)

sell adamant edge for whatever that universal crit card is, its crit and power and its full upgrade benefit is 8% more crit (Major wound 2 regular wounds)

sell hp pot for that order lifesteal crit bonus card (1 regualar lifesteal upgrade 2 minor lifesteal upgrades)
Sell brawlers ward for another brawlers ward with (1 major strike 2 regular strikes)
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>>167999996
Sparrow is basically a ranged Serath. Each arrow is a nuclear bomb by endgame
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Who here was in during the early days?
Miss some of the old, ridiculous builds you used to be able to make.

Got a tank bullying your lane? call 1800-Murdock.

Seriously, I don't think there was ever a point in any other MOBA where you could crit that high.
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>>168006909
Fuck off kairos i played a few matches with ya.
You don't count ur a freaking monster with her.
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>>168009651
haha i lets go back even older and remember the days when grux and feng mao could 1v5 and rampage was unkillable
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>>168009850
I remember grux riktor duo lanes.... Fuck those days
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Going to sleep
Keep the thread bumped
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Bump~
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We're not going to make it a week at this rate.
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Anyone want to enjoy actual graphics with me?
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shit, I thought the gen was completely kill again. at least we're staying consistent.

what do you guys think about the new event? I feel like Epic could do more for these shits, especially if they want us to pay ten bucks on recolored skins.
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>>168015643

DO YOU WANT TO PLAY PARAGON WITH ME
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>>168015643
Do they at least have different voices and/or different attack visuals? I'd rather they focus more on balancing and new heroes than adding skins 2bh but if they're going to go back they should do it properly. That Iggy bird skin in the roadmap looked great but it needs tweeting and chirping.
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>>168015874
>I'd rather they focus more on balancing and new heroes than adding skins 2bh

different teams do different things

the art team is not in charge of design

delete your stupid-ass post and never write it again
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>>168015941
Do they at least have different voices and/or different attack visuals? I'd rather they focus more on balancing and new heroes than adding skins 2bh but if they're going to go back they should do it properly. That Iggy bird skin in the roadmap looked great but it needs tweeting and chirping.
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>>168015992
>I'd rather they focus more on balancing and new heroes than adding skins 2bh

different teams do different things

the art team is not in charge of design

delete your stupid-ass post and never write it again
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>>168015643
Finally got the serath skin. And I have monarch sparrow and murdock from the old days. Their free skin events are usually challenging but I love em
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>>168016094
you're mean
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Should I play this game? I've been playing lol for years but i got bored lately. Is it p2w, is it grindfest, is it actually good and balanced, is it easy to learn hard to master.
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>>168017729
it's not p2w it's not a grindfest.
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>>168017729
>Is it p2w

No. You grind for cards and you can only buy boosts to get cards quicker (can't buy them outright) but the acquisition rate is very generous and you can reasonably obtain all the cards within a few hundred hours, plus there's a card crafting system for what you need.

So if you figure out what to get, there's no grind, and plenty of people smurf anyway.

>is it actually good

It has actual graphics.

>and balanced

Out of like 28 (?) heroes, let's say 23 are currently viable and 2 are OP. I'm not actually thinking about these numbers but that's a ballpark. Don't care about balance; play the fun meta heroes and win.

>is it easy to learn hard to master.

The card UI is confusing as fuck at first but you play LoL so you'll figure it out quickly. The skill ceiling is considerably high, particularly since everything is manually aimed and visibility is third-person.
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>>168017729
Try it, it's free and fun. There are only 2-3 heroes that aren't competitively viable out of the whole bunch, so just choose who you like and jump in. You'll figure it out as you go.
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>>168009651
>>168009850
I remember. Also those Rampages who could walk under towers without giving a single fuck.

Best days of Paragon for me though were around April, when shit wasn't so unbalanced any more and orb dunking was still around. Fuck, orb dunking was fun.
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>>168015874
>>168015992
More expensive skins do have different attack visuals, but nobody has any voices yet, except for some grunts and shouts. They're coming soon though, there are already leaked voice files on soundcloud for about half of characters and they're pretty damn good.
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Eh, I guess the empty hours have began. Bumping to keep it alive.
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>>168021353
It's downloading as I watch Hull v Arsenal game.
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>>168023035
You're a first time player or just updating/redownloading?
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>>168023160
1st time
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>>168023195
Good luck and have fun then. I should be free in about 2 hours if you want someone to show you the ropes. Or if you have any questions just shoot. It will keep the thread alive. Played any mobas before?
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>>168023343
Played lol since beta. Was Diamond v at most. Didnt liked smite a lot, played Dota 2 for like 15 minutes then uninstalled.
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>>168023519
You should handle yourself well then, I have a roommate who's a lol fanatic and had no trouble getting into paragon. Personally League never seemed appealing to me, but I like to play a match of Dota once in a while. Paragon is the main one I play when it comes to mobas though.
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>>168023763
Will this game die or the community is growing?
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>>168023847
It seems to handle itself well right now, the matchmaking rarely takes more than a minute and although I don't know any exact stats I believe the community is growing. It needs more marketing and renown to survive for a longer time though, that's for sure. But it's still in the beta after all, Epic is still implementing mayor changes from time to time and trying to figure out how to make it as good as possible. They said they will increase marketing later this year, when the game will be closer to full release. I hope for the best, I believe the game deserves it.
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>>168024060
Jesus christ this launcher sucks, instead of stable download speed It jumps all the time and isn't even going at full speed. I'll need something like 6h to download this instead of 2
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>>168024619
That's on your side, not the server. The game took 10-15 minutes for me.
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>>168024619
Yeah, it DOES suck. I think it's because it somehow downloads and installs at the same time instead of doing one thing first and than the other, but it still takes much more time than it should. It's just 2:30 pm here though and I have a whole day free, so I probably will still be here.
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>>168024842
Why does every other game manage to download on full speed then?
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>>168025329
I'm not a network engineer, anon
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>>168025459
Well I do have the same problem as him and some of my friends do as well, so it's definitely on launcher's side.
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Morning gentleman
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>>168026019
Afternoon, friend
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>>168026019
>>168026195
Afternoon to you both. When you're going to play today?
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>>168026684
After work so in 6 hours
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Reminder to post your usual playing time and preferences along with your nickname/number in pastebin document as described and shown
>>167977732
>>167986578
>>167987887
>>167988451
here to make matchmaking within the group easier.
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>>167971865
SPREAD THE LOVE OF OUR MISTRESS
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>>167979646
Twinblast is like:"I never asked for this"
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>>168028834
Bump. What exactly made Iggy suck so hard on the new map while he was so overpowered on the old one?
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>>168031004
Yeah I keep hearing this meme, but as of late Iggy has been fucking great at harassing me, those turrets really are fucking infinite. Plus your minions don't even care as they get burned and their minions advance
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>>168032001
I don't know I haven't played him since autumn at least, just been hearing that and haven't seen any Iggys in ages. The ones I did see on the new map although not necessarily bad were nowhere near the annoyance he was on Agora.
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Eh, bumping time
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>>168031004
Probably because he was the best pusher, his turrets shat damage out the ass before, and he had an easy disengage plus multitudes of "apply when burning" fury cards
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>>168036782
I know he had to be nerferd, I meant rather what exactly they did to him that made him so shit? Just nerfed his damage?
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>>168036930
Nah, in the old map there used to be a travel mode. His turrets would interrupt your travel mode and prevent you jumping back to save your towers. He was annoying and had a lot of control over your team in indirect ways like that. He was never overpowered in terms of raw damage.
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>>168036930
Every other hero also unlocked a whole new set of versatility with physical and energy disappearing
Shorter map
Easier to rotate
They changed the ranges and areas of abilities on most champs
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>>168037280
>champs
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>>168037134
>>168037280
This. His biggest nerf was Monolith. As far as I know his stats/skills haven't directly been nerfed, he just doesn't perform that well now that all the tanks and carries are cramped in smaller spaces and he's forced to start taking hits.
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i hope that in polish version, item names aren't translated.
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>>168041445
Pole here, unfortunately they are, although the translation ain't too bad. It's much worse with ability names. You can always switch to English though.
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Okay, lauching it for the 1st time, wish me luck.
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>>168042138
If you want someone to play a match with just ask, I'm available
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>>168042138
I'm new as well, are you the guy who used to play LoL or are you actually new?
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So /parag/ who do you think will be nerfed next patch and why?
Second, who do you WANT nerfed and why?
Aurora IMO because of her overloaded kit, I think they'll either lower the range of her dash or theyll increase the cool down of her skills.
Personally I want Greystones kneecaps broken, he does too much dmg and is too tanks. Plus he's backdoor and dive king. I also want sparrow taken down a notch, she does way too much dmg late
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>>168043148
I want the community to get nerfed so the devs aren't in a position where they have to nerf heros that are easily countered by build and character select to appease the community.

I also want a dekker buff she is the shittiest hero in the game. Her bubble should do bonus damage to minions and shit damage to heros. She can't clear or steal enemy jungle so she can't do anything except throw out a 1 second stun and slow. She's too useless when she isn't doing the one thing she is good for.
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>>168043396
She's S+
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>>168043601
NO. These "pros" don't know shit.

She needs a bubble or rocket feet boost
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>>168043396
>>168043695
Good Dekker is actually pretty great, but I agree, she needs a buff to her bubble's damage, she has basically no minion clearing power at all
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>>168043695
The entire community is wrong and you're correct. My bad, anon.
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>>168043860
thank you
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>>168043850
She's support, she doesn't need high damage. Her utility is fantastic and she secures kills through her abilities.
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>>168043964
not asking for damage just minion clearing support
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>>168042625
The guy who played lol, why are the cards buying themselves?
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>>168045334
Turn off auto equip in the store.
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>>168045334
>>168045450
Also be sure to always buy a base cards first and then all the upgrades for it before buying the next one: many base cards give additional bonuses for fully upgrading it. You can access upgrades by clicking a bought base card in your deck.
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>>168045450
>>168045572
Okay the game will do the cardy thing for me b4 lvl 5, right?
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Also, I play on EU.Nick is "Fedorando" if you want to add me and teach me something
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>>168045947
You don't have to worry with making your own decks yet, since you don't even have too much cards. Just use default ones, but I would turn off auto equipping so you can get a hang of how it works yourself and choose whatever is more appropriate at the moment from default decks. It's really not complicated and rather instinctive.
>>168046046
Might play a match with you if you're going to play this evening.
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Lookin to try the jungle out, are serath or kwang good for that? Also, do I just roll with power/as/crit? Or should I get life steal/tanky stats?
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>>168047252
Kwang is pretty good for jungle, try giving him some lifesteal, it works great on him since he have some passive lifesteal himself. Didn't play Serath, so I don't really know.
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>>168047252
I can see them working as junglers, they have surprise initiates and can dish out a lot of damage catching the enemy off guard
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>>168047252
with kwangs built in life steal you can get a scyth for bonus damage for quick clearing and more gain from passive life steal. so you'll be ganking at full health every time and quickly feeding the amber well.
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>>168043396
Same nerf the community. They literally refuse to play Kwang and think Aurora can simply 1v1 every champ and win with ease.

>>168043148
Delete Greystone nerf Gideon and Gadget.
They have the longest ranges and Gideon has a fool proof escape while shitting damage.

I would like people to put more efforts into getting good at champions. For example Serath, Kwang and Kallari take actual skill to not be useless with, and Kwang is by far he most punishing shit I've seen. High burst, teleport, tether, innate lifesteal and the only hero in the game with spell vamp. The only way you kill Kwang is when he runs out of mana.
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>>168050024
Don't forget his build in spell vamp.
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>>168047618
Did I fuck up by starting to practice jungling with Sevarog? He's pretty tough as someone new to mobas. I'll add my name to the OP list once I have a few more games under my belt, but is there a more straightforward character to start with? Sevarog seems to focus more on his q and multitasking a ton of things which is overwhelming for someone 20 hours in. I've clicked with most other roles fine (carry/support/mid/offlane)
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>>168052758
Severog is basic and easy to play. Kwang is much more difficult to fight with
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>>168053012
He was fine mid-late game and his moveset's good but every time I've played I barely survive the first couple of camps and I'm forced to warp back. He felt super weak when I started compared to other heroes. Which cards should I be taking? I headed straight for green camp for the shield buff, IDK if it's too much at first.
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>>168053224
>Which cards should I be taking?
You shouldn't be taking jungle cards like executioners scythe and jungle consumables like jungle drink rare passive ones.

That should help you sustain until you have enough damage. If I recall Severog is growth corruption so he should have a huge advantage in the jungle.
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>>168052758
Sevarogg is actually a very good character for jungling, although he's not a exactly a simplest one(although not very hard to get into either as other anon said)
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>>168053509
YOU SHOULD BE TAKING*
FUCKING TYPO
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>>168053615
>>168053509
He seems like a really strong character, but it seems like he's designed for people who already have the general jungling game down, he has his own shit to focus on on top of that with his pauldron building and his Q management on top of jungle rotation and lane hopping and all that. Do I just need to improve?
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>>168053615
Yeah that's what I was trying to say I made a typo
I'm trying to tell him he should have the advantage in the jungle thanks to his affinity
He's also great for ganking and engaging and a safe ult

Unlike Kwang
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>>168053903
>seems like he's designed for people who already have the general jungling game down
Fix your deck man and find a good jg path if it gives you a hard time still. You should not have a hard time. Severog grade A easy
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>>168051336
are you telling me spells/abilities benefit from lifesteal

because that would change my entire life
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>>168055072
No. I'm telling you that lifesteal is for basic attacks, however Kwang ONLY has spell vamp meaning HIS spells and the allies around him will benefit from lifesteal using their abilities AND basic attacks. Spell lifesteal.
This is unique to Kwang and no card will give you Spell lifesteal. Another reason why Kwang is a nightmare to deal with.
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>open up a loot crate
>Get 20 day exp boost
I'm about to smash my tv
Why can't I decline this and remove it from my account
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>>168056687
what
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>>168056687

What's the prob. You'll get card packs and tributes quicker.

Unless you're worried about being too compelled to play the game unhealthily.
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Kill me fucking now.
>Greystone on our team is 0 and 7 which means he's 14 and 0.
>40mins in
>telling him to stop being a passive person.
Literally next to me when im getting jumped by rampage and twinblast.
>Doesnt do shit but get the minions who are nowhere near the tower.
>doesn't even jump into team fights.
Somehow we are still stomping the enemy team.
>Lag happens and i DC try to reconnect but lost connection to host.
Im so salty right now,Whole team probably thinks i left since i was mentioning to him to stop being scared of everyone and jump in on people fighting.
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Why aren't people playing this game the right way? Instead i play vs 3 people on mid and no one is defending other lanes. I'm not liking it.
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>>168058595
Damn, you got some real retards in your team then. Shitting on the meta actually sometimes works pretty well, but definitely not if you shit on it so hard.
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>someone picks sparrow when I was going to
>they dc during the game
Nice
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>all these players realizing belica is good
Fuck me
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3rd lose in a row. Please tell me early games doesnt count. Playing with afkers all the time
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>>168061294
Wasn't she actually picked rather often on the old map? On the other hand, her bomb's range was fucking huge back then.
>>168061470
Don't worry anon, you'll get past it, I also always got shitty teams and usually lost at the beginning. Now it's much better and I usually play with at least 1-2 friends.
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>>168058595
It's because you aren't in high enough elo yet

itll happen less the higher up you go.
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>spent day playing dekker
>tfw pushing offlane out of lane because of hard harassment
>tfw sneaking off when offlane has to go back to base and gank mid game for ez ganks
>tfw skipping jump jets because shittiest skill in the game

feels good
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>>168062434
Dekker's jump jets are invaluble. You just don't need to lvl em past 1.
You want a shitty escape look at twinblast.
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>had to carry a team that kept trying to surrender as Sparrow
Listen you fucktards don't make me waste my time playing this garbage champ to surrender because you can't stop dying
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>>168061670
>Wasn't she actually picked rather often on the old map
Nope because Countess, Kallari, Khaimera was meta.
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Finally. Now I felt like I was the only one who can lead us, but my team done well in the end. I had 0/17 Crasher(or whatever is he called) tho. I think I'm slowly getting it, one problem I notticed is that it's hard to see what cooldows are/what lvl are my skills, and kinda poor skill description. It's fun guys.
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>>168066150
Nice to see you like it, skill levels are shown by 4 small dots/dashes above your skill list in lower part of screen along with cooldowns.

Also hello fellow Pollack. Are you the guy I added earlier this evening?
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>>>/v/367131371
What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PfcimpK3Fo
Got this off the thread too, what the fuck.
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>>168068015
He's a retard.
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>>168067207
Propably. I mean i wouldn't mind the skills being show on top of the health bar. Also. Is there a way to see minions hit points by numbers?
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>>168068378
Obviously, wish I could filter his fucking post, or he could just get banned already.
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>build Charging Brute on Sparrow
>1v1ing Lt Belica
>killed a huge wave of minions so stacked a shitton of movement speed
>kite the fuck out of belicas autos close range
>kill her with charged shot
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAHAJAJAJJJjaJjjJAnanan
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>>168068491
I don't think so, but you can look in the options, perhaps it's possible to turn it on.
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>>168068528
He took off his trip to be the little bitch he is, ignore it
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>>168068697

>have trip on
>everyone screams at me to take the trip off

>take off trip
>everyone screams at me to put it back on
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>>168068806
Just stop posting lol
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>>168069123

>stop posting
>thread dies because I contribute like 20% of volume and am the only one with actual experience in the game
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>>168070160
Would rather it die desu
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>>168070160
And here is exactly your problem. We don't give a fuck about your bloated self esteem, I made at least a half of page 10 bumps today and was playing since early access and I don't brag about it like if was a saviour of this thread. We're here to have fun talking about a game we like and to play it, if you're going to be an autistic asshole about you might as well GTFO. Just keep it cool and behave like a normal human being.
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>>168071179
>We don't give a fuck about your bloated self esteem,

>keep posting about me fucking constantly without any prompting or identifying on my part

>implying "normal human beings" are ever anonymous
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>>168070160
Except it isn't 20% of you
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>>168071179
Only when you do some annoying shit, mostly posting some "actual" shill memes everybody hates. This time admittedly it was another anon who started it.
>implying "normal human beings" are ever anonymous
Well I gotta admit, you got me here.
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>>168072079
Was obviously meant for >>168071542
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wait a minute

hol up

Is bellica is a suggested guardian and epic likes to use these meme category so they can be hipster about standard moba titles then this means bellica is a support right?
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NO
ELO
GAINS
TODAY
FUCK
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>>168073906
Well she has a mana draining and disabling ability and access to order cards, she can theoretically be build as a support, I even tried that.
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>>168075030
You can't really build as a support. It's not like there are specific support cards that cost 3cp
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>>168075313
Well I meant focusing the build on ally buffing auras since she has access to lot of those and making somewhat of a "semi-support" out of her.
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>>168073906
Offlane Countess vs Belica is not a fun matchup: if you see a Countess o the other team during draft and no other obvious offlaner, Bel's probably the best support option.
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God I fucking hate aurora. Shit teammates, no wards at 60 FUCKING MINUTES, and I can't cover everywhere with my two. Aurora just comes up behind us and 1 shots two of us because late game her CC is not only CC but also burst damage comparable to highest burst characters, especially if she gets the jump on you. Even if she didn't have that damage we were fucking stuck for an unbelievable amount of time that no other hero can even match so any enemy hero could easily kill us while we can't even use escape abilities during aurora ult

Oh but tell me again how hard it is to deal with countess of all things
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>>168075685
>game start
>guys, please buy wards
>10 minutes in
>guys, please buy wards
>an hour in
>BUY WARDS

>next game
>game start
>guys, please buy wards
>"you buy them"
and
>"don't tell me what to do"
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>>168075685
Literally don't move when you fight her. She was to melee you to death because her only form of damage is her ult and her hoarfrost which you can completely avoid by sticking to her so you already outdamage her and you or your team mates need to stop being shit because her ult damage only does real damage when it hits twice from being too close to each other.

She literally does shit damage and has a buff that says if your opponent is dumb all of your damage is doubled.
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>>168075685
>>168076670
>not buying them when your team refused to do so

It's like you didn't even want to win

>inb4 but its muh teams job to buy them

yes so if they don't losing on purpose is the best choice. Very smart not being able to spare 1 (ONE) CP wards/shadowwards.
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>>168076927
Can confirm
>run at Aurora as Steel, punch her
>Hoarfrost!
>stand still and punch her again
>she flees
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>>168077089
I was the one asking them to buy wards, you goon.
Both times I was the only one putting them down, and when I politely asked, they showered me with abuse.
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I wish they would bring a little bit more range in Grux's pull, that was the fun part of playing him, an enemy who's getting away and you'll pull him only to wonder if you've got the spacing/timing right enough to get back on him.
Now it's just, "oh they took two steps ahead and are out my melee range, better use the pull"
he's literally 0 fun right now, you don't even see him selected anymore, I should've just gone the extra mile and got him to mastery level, now he's just sitting at level 8 with my Greystone
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>>168077242
As long as you live and she lives what's the problem
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Does megavolt pylon include yourself as one of the units? I'm on the fence about it because for 2 cp for the active it definitely gives more than 2 cp of mana regen would give but I think it would def be worth it if it counts yourself as well.

2cp of mana regen = 36 mana a minute
pylon active when two waves meet + yourself + an ally = 60 mana per minute


What is the AoE size anyway
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>>168079301
It always includes the wielder. It doesn't say it but it does.
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>teammates constantly returning to base
>same teammates constantly moving across the map for sick ganks that they don't fucking get
>literally from side to side
>constantly leave lane open so enemy pushes it ez

Holy shit I just want to try out kwang in the fucking jungle for one match without retards stealing my camps/buffs while being useless and dying. This is the second fucking game in a row as kwang that my team surrendered because they're so fucking shit
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>>168083814
Tell me about it
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Here is a discord with only me in it

https://discord.gg/4wvJBAD

Join if you want to play the game with peeps here. Have a mic.
.
Discord will be deleted after we're done.
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>>168085423

We've got two. Could use more.
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>try to go support belica
>only land stun 25% of the time

fug
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>>168087414
>support belica
Just build power lmao
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Protip

Always always always pick The Archmagus as your OP Card (yes, you have it).

Triple minion damage to structures, which is obviously much more beneficial than triple minion damage to minions (which only occurs when nearby them and you can just clear waves with a button press).
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>>168088774
>stacking prime cards

lel
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>>168078192
No problem?
I was backing up what you said: they don't know what to do when you don't amble into their hoarfrost, it's at that moment that they reali8se that they're going to have to be careful around you instead of just fumbling through situations with their bullshit kit.
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>>168089447
>stacking

What?

You only get one.
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>>168090118
okay but what if literally everyone had archmagus

do u c
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>play Lt belica
>tired of Khaimera and Aurora
>look for a useful active
>got Cast Converter today
>consume 175 mana to gain 47.5 hp regen for 10 seconds
>AYYYYYYYY
>edit deck
>Aurora almost killed me with her ult Crysoseism and hoarfrost
>click Cast converter
>watch my hp shoot the fuck up as I kite away

YEAH BABY YEAH THIS IS HOW YOU PLAY
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>Check stats of teammate
>9 wins 21 losses Kallari
Fuck
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>>168090862
>2 minute penalty for dodging
NICE
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>>168090239

The effect is local so it doesn't matter and "triple damage vs minions" in a local area is garbage when you can waveclear. Extra max health to your minions is garbage also when the waveclear abilities will one-hit them anyway.

In other words, the potential of having the other two bad passives stacked is negated by the fact you could be in another lane, providing the supreme passive to those minions.

Triple structure damage takes inhibs easy and wins games.
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>decide to go back to trying to Kwangz the jungle
>match up has TWO others who want to jungle and apparently have no other characters that are actually suited to going in lanes
>first pick but know we're just going to lose
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Is there anywhere you _can't_ take Lit. Bae?

She has jungle camp clear and mana sustain.
She's a natural mid.
She has the mana sustain for solo, and health sustain isn't hard to build into.
She has cc and hardcore zone control to support.
She can shit damage and clear lane like a boss if you take her adc.
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>>168092818
shes fun but aside from clearing minions everything else she does is shit tier
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>>168093579
I'm sorry you can't place the bomb that explodes in literally a second to slash an enemy's health, or stun bitches then bomb them for free damage.
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>>168093805
I accept your apology and never let it happen again u scrub
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>>168093850
I like you. What's you ign?
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>>168093579
>lt belica
>counters anything with a spell
>shit
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>play Muriel
>feed my Sparrow
>enemy dekker adds me after the match
>i laugh at them
>they say my 5 kills and 18 assists was luck
>i tell them they died 5 times and got 1 assist by luck
>block their salty ass
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>put overflowing gifts on Muriel
>is now a reliable Narbash
How do we balance her?
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>>168095217
She's still worse than steel or Dekker.
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>>168095295
No she isn't. Not when she shields all their damage.
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>>168090267
Good stuff.
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>Steel ult onto enemy Steel to save my Belica as super minions chew the last few percent of the core
Saved a life and padded the KDA a bit: a good way to end the match.
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>>168095812
Both steel and Dekker can use honor the pure.
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>>168096856
Both steel and dekker cannot shield their team every 8 seconds
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>>168098648
Team fights don't last longer than 15s
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>>168099276
It works for more than just teamfights
2 shields
1 speed increase to retreat or chase
Aoe shield that make shit like Aurora ult halved in effectiveness
Her ult that greatly shields one player and cc knock ups enemy team
A slow
Dekker
Stun
Aoe slow
Her rocket jump
Her ult that needs coordination
Plus Muriel has global presence.

Teamfights in Paragon take more than 15 seconds since most people are kiting
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Night shift bumpers lets get to work
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>>168100064
The meta is all stuns and lock down cc. Muriel has none of that. Aggressive support is where the meta is right now.
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>>168100064
Dude Dekker has litterally never left s+ tier once you get into gold elo you will start actually seeing teammates capitalizing off of her ult and stuns.
And steel. He's steel. Press triangle win the team fight.
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>>168085423

I got to play two games with one dude

yay
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>>168101275
It's where I have my success, that's for sure.
I'm a pretty good Murdock, but lately I've been maining Steel and doing great. If your team is awake, Steel is the best bet for support.
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Making a khaimera jungle deck, should I focus on attack speed or does his steroid make it less good than crit or power?

Also, what ability should I max first when jungling?
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>>168102487
His ability completely maxes out attack speed in bursts, so I don't see the point in building it: crit + an explosion of attack speed and naturally high damage with built-in sustain make him a great fighter.
Build damage, crit and hunger maul as your crit bonus with an assassin's ward for some more incidental lifesteal.
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>>168101275
offlane muriel is meta u scrub it's literally all about muriel to counter stuns and lock down because she is anti all of that.

console players need to go
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>be Serath
>pushing left into enemy tower
>destroy tower
>now all that's left is the inhib on the left
>notice Kwang coming front
>Khaimera coming back through ward
>about to get spitroasted
>weigh my options
>evasive maneuver Khaimera's jump with ascend
>get into jungle
>they don't chase and decide killing my minions before they damage the inhib would be the best decision
>mid lane is clear but everyone is busy in pvp skirmishes
>lead my forces into the core
>die before it finsihes
>win as it does
If your inhib is down, you need a dedicated pusher that lane. Super minions fucking chew through normal minions and if they had been in company of another player, well, you had it coming.
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I guess I should build a serath deck since I have the skin.

but damn serath looks so boring to play what are her roles if multiple. ehh


eeeehhhh
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>>168103323
She is boring as fuck, I did my part and took her into a bot game to spread the skin, but her kit is a snoozefest.
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I love how you're all constantly talking about meta yet you don't even use the single most infallible meta strat.

Voice chat.

Really though, any comment about balance is absolutely worthless if it doesn't pertain to playing the game properly; i.e. with a full team on voice chat. I'll inform Reddit of the same since Reddit is killing this game and Epic listens to them.
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>>168103857
I have played with a full group of friends and my win rate seems to be about equal whether I'm using full team voice chat or playing with randoms in solo queue.

It's pretty great, seems nothing I do personally has an effect on the result of any match.
Unless you stomp on the enemy team so hard you go 20+ and 0 or something
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>>168103323
Fly to initiate and have attack speed high enough to be a threat. Combo that with lifesteal and any enemy chastised will feel their dick shrivel in pain as they get fucking destroyed by her mace.

>>168104171
Well, sometimes you can win even with a lesser kill rate as long as you push right and your jungler is better than theirs.
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>>168104171
>my win rate seems to be about equal whether I'm using full team voice chat or playing with randoms in solo queue.

Win rate will always be roughly 50/50, especially given perfect matchmaking (and Paragon's is better than most people give it credit for). The difference is the difficulty of your opponents.

When matching as a 5-stack, it adds to the target average MMR of your opponents, so you'll have harder games. Solo queue is essentially a coinflip.
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>>168104305
Can win or lose despite my performance. I'd go so far as to say even going 20kills to 0 deaths is not enough to ensure your team a win.

Kind of bugs me about this type of game, to work so hard and it's all down the drain if someone screws up because a person's kills don't matter individually and you can't do everything yourself
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>>168104445
Yeah, they need to implement a 1v1 mode with a smaller map. Or a simple team skirmish mode where only kills count. But as is, it's a team game, and everyone has to do their share if they want to win
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>>168104406
>Paragon's is better than most people give it credit for
No, mna.
The matchmaking is truly, truly awful. I have nearly 500 games played and just last night I was matched with a guy who had played less than 20 (he added me to ask what level I was).
My Murdock the night before had played 2 games before being paired up with me because his friend brought him along.
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Guys, we need screenies to make memes

Also, something I snagged from a /v/ thread earlier, looks like the game has some aspiring artists working towards fanart
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>tfw 100 meme points in one day

Just another 9 days until masters
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Should i jump into PvP with default decks? I miss a lot 1strike/cast cards most builds have. And i miss tokens cards as well
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>>168103096
Looked at the replay and snagged this screenie
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>>168107341
Yea some people like gideon and grim have good decks but others I forget who just go full excess mana which would be great if they had uncommon cards with actives that consumed mana. If you're new to the game you'll generally be paired with similar people. Usually I like to play a bot game when I try someone new to get a feel of what they need and how they feel.
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>>168107027
How do you get that screen?
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Bumping. Won't be able to bump any more today though, so other anons better take care of that.
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How do I know which cards are good?
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>>168118820
By reading them
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>>168120261
Can you also explain me.
How do one jungle? Which heroes are good to do it, what camps do i go for, how to gank and where to ward?
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>>168103081
Post elo scrub
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>>168103857
But bro I do voice chat all the time.
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Bumpity bump
Anyone playing?
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>>168126638
Double bump.
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Threads are gunna die burgers ain't bumping
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>>168120737
Tips anyone? What are the basic tactics and meta?
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>>168131119
I would help you out, but I don't exactly care about this sort of stuff, I just play the way that seem to make sense and usually it works. If you'd ask a more specific question then perhaps I might answer. Sice you asked about wards, always ward on crossroads and commonly used paths, especially since wards have fields of vision too.
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>>168131119
circle around when hitting jungle camps
and get a siphon card for sustain early game against camps
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This is the first MOBA I've ever played and I'm going up against bots but still keep dying to them, I have a vague idea of what I'm doing but actually going up against anything other than a Minion is pretty much GG.
Do the bots (Other hero's not Minions) have buffs on them or something or do I just need to suck less?
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>>168132703
Bots actually aren't as bad in this game as their usually do, but yeah, probably you just need more practice. Don't take unnecessary risks, don't pursue enemies too far, don't push too far alone, retreat when you don't have much hp/mana etc. High risk high reward tactics rarely pay off in mobas, at least on lower skill levels.
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>playing a trio pre-made with 2 friends
>go rampage offline, while they go dekker and belica safe lane
>dem 6 second cc locks
>dem escapes anytime the other team tried anything
You know you did it right when you cc an Aurora so hard she can't move 2 feet before her death
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Anyone wants to play right now?
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>>168134441
>>168134441
>Don't take unnecessary risks, don't pursue enemies too far, don't push too far alone, retreat when you don't have much hp/mana etc
eheh, All of this I did pretty often.
I found a pretty detailed blog by PlayStation so I'll read that a little too and make sure to prioritise not dying.
Thanks anon.
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>>168138282
Not a problem, those were mistakes I did at the beginning as well(especially that I usually go for high risk high reward style in them) so I decided to point them out. It took me some time to learn how not to die in mobas, but in the end it's one of the most crucial things.
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>>168139296
By "in them" I meant in other video games
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Is Kwang not so great for others or is it just me? His damage doesn't seem bad from the build I'm using, though I haven't gotten it to 60 because of teammates and a single quick win among the surrenders, but at ~40 it seemed like I knew where it was going. It's his skills that bug me, though.

You've got a sword that deals seemingly minor damage when you throw it, lightning for good enough damage, and an ult that teleports you to the sword for more damage, but these two alone typically not good enough for a kill. Good thing the basic attack is made strong through the build.

But the tether is REALLY annoying to land on an enemy unless he's standing still (why) or running in a predictable path. With it's cooldown and the length of fights you've basically got one chance to land it with a really shitty radius. Mix that with no escape unless you want to shit around with the Ult teleport (throw sword, run the OPPOSITE direction and hope enemies don't realize you're going to teleport backwards) it seems really easy to get screwed.

I really prefer Grux, which is also probably why he's so popular. No lifesteal comparable to Kwangz but I feel grux dash is more helpful
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>>168140098
Remember that his lightning attack hits the sword, not himself, so throwing a sword at enemy and activating it is a great finishing move. Also he has a passive lifesteal aura that works for or allies around him. In general he's a great character for teamfights, although not so good(still very strong though) on his own.
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>>168140693
Yeah it's not that he's bad, the throw-lightning-ult is pretty good damage but the throw itself is sketchy because of delay and tiny radius. Also not sure I like missing a full ability for the lifesteal.
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>>168140098
kwang is the best off laner in the game.
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>>168141983
The lifesteal makes him one of the most sustainable fighters in the game, 1v: put in some more lifesteal and then build him damage and you can go toe-to-toe with anyone. Plus, his abilities are great for chasing down kills and doing AOE in team fights. Throw thunder cleaver on him and use it in tandem with his abilities at the start of a fight and you'll be cleaning up.
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>been playing support all this time because harassing offlane is so much fun
>want to play other roles and need to practice but got into ELO where people actually try hard
>will just fuck up and get everyone mad

;_;
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Just had a pretty good game with Grim, people who say he sucks need to git gud, he has potential for sick damage, his slow makes most enemies completely unable to escape and if they can you can just easily finish them with ult. And nothing beats completely shitting on your enemy's ult with your shield and even regaining mana from it. His orb shot also allows some sick plays, although it's rather unreliable.
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Just won a good game as riktor. His mana blows so hard early :/. But that late game lock down is so worth it
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>tfw home
Time to climb
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>>168147392
>have a riktor on my team
>he feeds up the ass
>aight i focus on me
>late game comes and riktor is going 1v2 and winning
>a Countess with 10 kills and no shut down is chasing
>I'm Aurora so I show up to save his ass
>Riktor turns back and ults the bitch
>he dies but we shut her down for 60 fucking seconds
>take all their inhibs and end game
What a hero man
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Checking in, if anyone needs their name or timezone added to the pastebin just let me know
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>>168150320
im good
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>still have 4 outgoing friend requests
Log the fuck on
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>drop second overflowing gifts

HOL UP

Do over flowing gifts share cooldown? Can I activate them both at the same time? If not since the heal lasts for 15 seconds and the cooldown is 35 can I just have 2 and keep running them with a 5 second delay after using them? Sheeit I need to test the fuck out of this.
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Keep the dream alive
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>>168154315
I assume they share the same cool down similar to all mana pots and all the hp pots share the same cool down no matter how they work
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DOING MY PART!
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Bumping between games. Sparrow still a hooker. Stay classy agora, more at 6
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>>168158095
Sparrow is the best adc in the game
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>>168154315
Okay so Overflowing gifts and Shephards phial do not share a cool down if you were interested in knowing and the heals stack
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Wtf is this matchmaking doing? 4 game winstreak theoretically should force ME to face up against higher elo players
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Jumpman jumpman Auroras up to somethin
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>>168159545
game doesn't pair properly because small playerbase
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>>168158459
>best at being a hooker
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>be muriel or dekker
>literally can't do anything when enemy team pushes or is under tower because too low damage to even tickle anything

what the fuck

I'm thinking of going full attack speed/lifesteal/basic pen since none of these things get fucked by .3 power scaling. Fucking paragon reee.
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>>168162179
This is not what I asked for
>bronze Murdock
>i got stuck in support
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FUCK YOU CRUNCH
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>>168162851
use the fey if you want a supp that can clear
>>
>wants to be autistic
>someone trolls
>>
waoh time to keep dream alive!
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>haven't lost a game in a few days

finally the perfect time to learn support riktor
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>>168171975
wana supp me m8?
do good and ill carry ur ass so hard
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I fucking hate Kwang players
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Why does gadgets speed gate cost like 1/2 of a mana. Bitch literally gets to use it at zero mana everytime
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>>168174863
cuz believe it or not. its not a very useful escape
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Remind me to dodge when the enemy team picks Steel
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>>168177863
now learning how cancer her is?
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>>168177863
wana play?
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>haven't played Sparrow since Legacy
>just went 12-3-8 with her
She's a beast: you do need spacing and map awareness, and to know when to let an enemy go, though.
I guess maining murdock helps, too, but holy fuck.

>enemy team has a "master" Kwang
>tries his pro strats from the very start
>kill him twice two minutes into the game
>my support fucks off to jungle(?) and he starts to focus me, kills me twice
>play a safe game after getting the tower, have a few close calls
>make him my bitch in every late-game engagement
>melt the enemy team with my ult combo'd with Aurora's at Raptors
>casually destroy their Inhibitors and Core
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>>168178289
>pdate] [Auto] 1 new post
sparrow is a monster right now
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>>168177863
>>168177934
Steel has become my main: he's the best initiator in the game except for maybe Aurora.

>>168178431
She was my first character, and I was terrible with her, but she's probably going to replace Murdock for me, now (no one picks him after the nerf: it's just Twin and Sparrow these days).
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OMEGA BUMP EuROFAGS WAKE UP
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>>168181503
It's early AM in Yurp, guy.
£ in the morning where I'm at: more sensible, functional human beings are in bed right now because they have jobs and school tomorrow.
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8 didn't want to have to bring out my Countess but fuck you Aurora faggots thinking they're pro every fucking game. Don't wait for your ult to be up to get a kill I refuse to step into your ring and I've mastered timing Countess' blink to teleport to wherever Aurora Glacial charges

In short

*teleports behind you*
You're fucked
Nothing personnel kid
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>>168182357
>timing Countess' blink to teleport to wherever Aurora Glacial charges
So, your blink follows the entire charge as she's doing it? That's bound to scare them shitless.
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>>168183038
Yeah, if she uses Charge and you hit your blink at any time you'll arrive where her charge ends.

I can imagine them freaking the fuck out once I finish them off. Garbage fucks.
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>>168182357
Purity censor on Muriel or dekker or such screws Aurora too. Just pop it immediately after Aurora ults and nothing will happen, it literally dumpsters her
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>>168184213
I can't control what my supports do.
I just really want to kill them badly.
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>>168184049
I love that tech like that exists: shit so specific that most Aurora players don't even know about it. Thanks for the tip, I'll use it to scare the fuckers next time I go Countess.

>>168184213
I have it in my Steel build, but I think I only got it to work once. The timing is after you've been frozen, but before the damage procs, right?
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>>168184525
Exactly, once it freezes you completely you become stunned and there's no stopping it. Has to be right after she Ults, but on the plus side it'lol get everyone out of her ring root too
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>>168184525
>>168185393
>>168185393
If you spread out when Aurora ults it explodes only once.
If you are next to other exploding units you get double damage. Just reminding you to spam SPREAD OUT SPREAD OUT SPREAD OUT to your time
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Is this game good/popular? Smite servers are down and I'm bored positively shitless.
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>>168185393
>>168185659
Thanks for clarifying, bruhs.
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>>168186028
>good
I like it: the mechanics are consistent and the devs are constantly making changes (often minor, often dumb, but changes nonetheless). It's relatively well-balanced, too, and there are new characters coming out every month.

Is it popular? Not really, but I never have trouble finding a match: the community is relatively healthy and the only place you start to see slowdown in matchmaking is at higher ELOs.
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>>168186028

It has actual graphics.
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>>168186028
yes just play

expecting us to tell you otherwise in this thread is wasting time

just do it or look up a youtube video of gameplay
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>>168186059
No problem
Get those fuckers
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why is aurora's booty so nice? they need to give me a skin with no cloth covering it
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>>168190151
gadget and dekker have best butt
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>>168192384
>tfw porting back to base as dekker
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>>168192768
>get sparrow handstand emote
>zoom in at her puffy vulva
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>>168194358
>looking at old ladies

wud da fug
>>
Goodnight gentlemen
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>>168194358
post vulva pic
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>>168194451
>sparrow
>old
shes like one of the youngest characters in the game.
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this is my last bump for the night. eurofags i leave it to you now.
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>>168196097
well they forgot to tell the 3d artist that
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>>168198151
lol i find her ingame model to look fine. but they always fucked up the portraits for whatever reason.
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google actual graphics
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i play this on ps4 and notice it has PC players as well in groups. i feel like it would be easier to play on a PC. so my question is why does belica make my dick destroy sky scrapers
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>>168200079
Because she's a top tier waifu probably.
And yes, Paragon servers are cross platform.
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>>168206670
>Paragon servers are cross platform.
ree
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>>168208443
why does it matter? you can use m and keyboard at higher elo on ps4
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Bumping. Anyone playing in the next few hours?
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>Decide to stay up all night playing paragon to grind for materials
>jungle murdoc
>iggy at all
>safe lane severog
>offlane grim
>and me as muriel

fug
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>>168213596
>jungle murdoc
>offlane grim
>safe lane sevarog

What the actual fuck?
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>>168213665
Yes this is the degeneracy that does on at 6 am paragon.
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>>168213404
Bumping and repeating the question.
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Bump. Where the hell is everybody?
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All right, last bump from me. Someone better come here soon because I'm turning the computer off.
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>>168213596
Don't stay up all night playing Parameme
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>want to play but real life is happening
Suffering
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>>168226620
Same I got work until 530 today. Was too exhausted to wake up 2 hours before work to squeeze in a game
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Eh, BUMP, god damn it
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ACTUAL G

THEY'RE ADDING ANSEL TOMORROW

OH MY FUCKING GOD TIME FOR 360 PANORAMIC 8K SCREENS I HAVE WAITED DAY ONE FOR THIS I CANNOT

>monolith
>unfinished
>can't even view legacy replays

FUCK

FUCK

THERE WAS TIME NOW

THERE WAS TIME NOW

I'll content myself with 8K ass shots.

FUCK
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>>168235056
Honestly pleased to see you're happy G and it would be nice to see some more quality screenshot, but PLEASE contain the actual graphics shitposting man, at least don't spam it on /v/. I also hope they will finally finish Monolith and make it look as good as Agora did, but I guess they focus on gameplay issues right now which is more important.
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>>168235892

Nobody will believe the screens if I don't point out that they are actual graphics. Most people on /v/ still aren't used to seeing actual graphics. A lot of them unironically still game at 1080p.
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>>168239458
No? At worst they will ask "Does it really look like that?" and then we'll confirm it. Besides, even if you think otherwise, for majority of people the most important thing is gameplay, not graphics, especially in a multiplayer game, while your "actual graphics" meme threads imply that graphics is Paragon's only asset worth mentioning. And what's even more important, everybody is tired to death of this threads and hate them, this is NOT how you bring more players to the game man.

Sure it's great that Paragon is the only moba not looking like shit and screens showing that are great too, but just start those threads in a normal way, otherwise they look like rage causing baits. If you really have to put "actual graphics" somewhere put it in a filename.
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>>168184213
Can't do it immediately, you'll still get hit by her freeze damage. Have to wait up until the freeze cause the censor only gives a .5 second aura to avoid cc
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>>168240837
>Besides, even if you think otherwise, for majority of people the most important thing is gameplay, not graphics, especially in a multiplayer game, while your "actual graphics" meme threads imply that graphics is Paragon's only asset worth mentioning.

1. I think the word "gameplay" is nonsense in the way you're using it, since it implies the visual aspect of playing a game is insignificant.

2. If all I cared about were memorizing spreadsheets of data that correlates to retarded shit that makes no damn aesthetic sense on my screen, I'd be playing Dota instead.

The fucking primary reason Paragon exists, and Epic attests to this in all their interviews, is to be immersive, to be cinematic, to have the graphics "actually" match the trailers. If that doesn't justify the game in itself, you can actually fuck off and I don't want to convert blind autists to this so they can talk about their clicker MOBAs ITT instead. That's what happened with the last threads.
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actual bump
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>>168243596
This is your brain on autism
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Thoughts?
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>>168248482
the fey is the worst character because she looks like a man I hope they redesign her so she isn't peter pan
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>>168248482
The only decent Paragon 34, really.
until I find the time and motivation
Working on some small non-34 content for /parag/ in the meantime.
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>>168248482
The fuck
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>>168248669

I hope you stop being an insecure faggot.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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