/parag/ - Paragon General

Good to have an Actual Paragon Thread. Anyone's going to play in few hours?

>>167850878
At work

>>167851529
At work too but I'll still bumo

>>167850449
Dunno which one is real, but w/e

Gonna play Serath after the feedback from last thread. ID Mezmezzy

Someone make a pastebin of IDs

At work but will bump

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Post your favourite skins. This one is definitely underrated

>>167850449
What's the deal with the female taric?

Can somebody point me to a good video on cards/decks because I'm lost in the woods here.

>>167856073
Dunno either, but I just min/max and pretty much get into the top 2 most matches with that.

Depends highly on the character. Casters want cast cards, adc wants strike cards. Just try your luck and do not go for the basic deck like some basic bitch

>>167850449
When's Bungie gonna stop being lazy with the event skins and give us something better than a recolor?

>>167856073
I was looking into this on my own and I found my favorite spreed sheet autist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfSO4EaDSZU&t=381s

Check out his other videos he has a lot of good info. Only downsize is he is a literal autist when hes in game. Literally bangs on keyboard and yells on live stream.

>>167859262
He's good and after a while even stops being annoying. I didn't watch him play though and I don't intend to.

>>167857895
>>167859262
Thank you both.

Holy shit, Serath just survived a 3v1 gank and even took down 1 of them.

SHE IS THE FUCKING STRONG

Is Riktor any good?

>>167863473
Hasn't given me any trouble, hasn't been that helpful either. Play and find out anon.

>>167863473
He's good for going full hp and armor and just getting infront of your teams glass cannon so you can be like a fat bouncer at a club bumping your belly against people trying to get in. If they had voice chat you could also breathe heavy and say WHERE U GOIN constantly as you do it.

I see a lot of people playing Kallari, but they don't even chase enemies. Why do they even play a speedy assassin if they don't chase and kill?

>>167866332
>wards
>getting killed
Kallari only have 1 or 2 damaging abilities. She is strictly an assassin. If she misses her knife she loses her engage.

Kallari takes skill unfortunately

>>167853548
I'll add you and show you how it's done

>>167867957
>Well... fuck

>>167867538
What's your ID?

>>167870097
God damn it, shouldn't Amerifags be long awake by now? Where is every body?

>>167873927
Didn't mean to reply, sorry

>>167873927
I'm here. I've been busy playing Paragon

>>167874403
Makes sense I guess

>mfw learning what the gold and green guy does and how the amber link works
>mfw finally getting an idea on their stats to get an idea of when I can take them

I feel like I just doubled my skill but why does paragon hide so much information from me.

>>167873927

>Tfw always get invites to party but I'm always afk so now no one will want to invite because I won't accept anyway

Why isn't afk detect implemented ree

Is serath a good jungler? (If) I get the skin, I'd like to try her there. Or is she only good in offlane?

Does Sevarog need to played in the jungle? I hate playing junglers but he looks interesting.

>>167879190
I think he can jungle and offlane since he has that escape/initiation skill

>>167879190
Nah, I've seen very good Sevarogs on the offlane so not necessarily. I don't play him myself though.

>>167877502
Could work, since her flying attack can help finish enemies off and gank them too. Try it out, theoretically should work

>>167879190
He stacks waaaaaay better in the jungle

Good thing the enemy team surrendered last game, because my team weren't interested in pushing towers. TDM is real.
We didn't even have a carry ffs.

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Who is the cutest Paragon waifu?

>>167870097
I said I was gonna add you. I was at work man.

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>>167880704
Serath desu
Lt Belica looks godlike with the blond hair blue eye polar skin though
Imma buy it when it's on sale

>>167880540
>tfw enemy team surrenders at 15 minutes
Feels good

I know for a fact you niggers can bump in between death timers

Think we'll get a good cinematic trailer soon? If it's sexy enough, we might finally have some porn to promote this game with

how is the life is strange gen more active than ours

>>167880127
Just tried a couple of games with him. He's great late game, but earlier on every camp seems to drop me to 1/2 or 1/3rd health remaining. What should I be picking to start? I just went for health at first and it obviously didn't do so well.

>>167885981
Because their walking simulator isn't in beta and has been out for years with marketing and has ranked mode

>>167885981
Make a thread on /v/ and hope we can recruit more to the cause.

>>167886753
Do this but don't meme it up too hard

>>167880704
You posted her. Cute, brave and lawful
And powerful as hell in right hands

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>>167880704
Serath would be best girl if she didn't go full edgelord

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>about to die
>take the enemy inhibitor down with me
Now that's how you lose the battle but win the war

Who's good as a first jungler to learn the ropes?

>>167890725
Everyone seems to use Khaimera or Sevarog, so try those

>>167891603
How long should I farm camps for? I kept going with Sev until I was at around 300 stacked ability damage, but is there a sweet spot where it's more beneficial to start pushing/killing?

>>167897885
as a jungle you should regularly help team mate regardless of your stacks and be ganking if you see an enemy pushed up

>>167898162
Is there a point where the team is usually kitted out fully and doesn't need the card points as badly?

>>167898402
I'd say by the time we hit 23, we're good

what nationality is dekker

she looks like my aunt

>>167900814
space human

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>>167900814
She looks northern european, kinda like Syanna from Witcher 3

>>167901935
>looking anything like this character

lol what

dekker is clearly not white

>>167898873
Thanks. Is there an easy way to see how many stacks I have or do I have to keep it in my head? Apparently it caps at 80

>>167902179
ehh not really and number you can specifically look at but you can tell ur at 20/40/60/80 stacks because sevs shoulder pads get bigger and more extravagant.

>>167897885

You should be clearing camps every time they are full or nearly, until you hit 60 CP. It takes like two seconds as you level, and with some heroes it's a single ability press.

It provides CP to the entire team, so it is essential.

>>167902179
Mostly just look at your bar, if it's at around 25 or so, then the individuals with kills will have what ever else they need. Plus, you did a couple PKs yourself as jungle considering that you do gank as part of the job

>>167902491
>60
Matches don't last nearly long enough for that. Most end at around 30

>>167902930
most matches end around the 40 min mark
if you dont have 60 cxp by then im worried.
also who wants to play a bit?

>>167903153
I'm up for it, my ID is >>167853548

>>167903418
look for
ID Kairos-X-Man

>>167891603
Worst champ to start with for ganking is Khaimera
You will die so bad

Grux and rampage are the easiest

I'm down to play if anyone else is and if they have a mic. I play Howitzer. ID is Ubermenschkind.

>>167907690
You used to play gideon before tho

>>167908085

No? I've played maybe less than 5 games of Gideon, total.

I'm still kinda new to paragon, only really played Gideon (in non bot matches) so far. Who else should I use?

Also if anyone wants to play with a semi shitter, lemme know. UN is Narit

Is using high cost cards like hydroverser worth it?

>>167908954

no

>>167908819

anyone you think looks cool except for Iggy and Riktor

>>167908954
Don't listen to this bronze
>>167909160

Don't be afraid of high cost cards. You just have to build quick fully upgraded 6 cost cards then trade them in to go into the big cards. You have to bunny hop to them.

and the card itself has to be meaningful to your build/hero tho don't just assume big costs means good card for your situation.

>>167909391

hydroverser is not viable in any situation

90% of situational cards are useless

>>167908954
Hydro is worth it, you an go from 80 to 120 in one card just have a 6 point power card for the first part of the game and then save two points and transition to hydro

>>167907690
The game doesn't have teamspeak though, just a chat box. A really censored one at that too. Can't even say assassin lol

>>167910281

You can disable the profanity filter in the menu on the upper-right in the launcher or in-game

Also Discord exists so if anyone wants to play and has a mic we'll use Discord. I'll make a server, post the link, and destroy it afterwards.

>>167909679
>Hydroverser
>Situational
>Have high mana
>Have more power
Thats not situational

>>167910376
>get one shot by belecia

>>167910375
Shit, thanks anon, didn't know about that. Anyway, final bump from me for the night. Hope the thread survives the night

>>167908819
Just pick people you Think look cool, everyone is pretty viable except for iggy, even riktor is viable if you can get that fucking whip on someone

>>167911474
Can happen even without hydro verser, she counters most ranged casters. You also dont have to actually build mana for hydro to be usefull.

total noob here, getting better. is Lt. Belica easy mode? i feel like i always carry all my games even though i just know the basics. ID: Theldisun
down to play with more knowledgeable people

>>167908954
If you build mana

>>167911729
Lt belica is highly rewarding to play. Is a destroyer late game as long as you have power, ability pen and some hp.

>>167911729
She is pretty good

>>167911859
So im atleast decent? cause i just lost a game where i had more kills than the whole enemy team. no one else on my side could do anything. was wondering if she was just broken

>>167911963
Shes not broken, she just punishes inept retards who cant group, if you control her drone and push on her individually you can burst kill her fast, Just gotta stay away from getting stunned by her shit

>>167911963
Aurora is the only characters truly close to being too good and broken

>>167912863
>Kwang
>Countess
Nah

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What fresh fucking Hell was this match?

I have 15 kills before anyone else on my team had 1. I couldn't get around fast enough to save all the lanes.

Made a pastebin full of names I got from the threads. If your ID ain't on here just post it and I'll add it. Then I will add it to the next OP

pastebin.com/tMqksTK4

>>167913241
>Two escpaes and an ult that not only lingers in the area, has two fucking burst of damage
She's more Op than t hem

>>167913463
Countess ult has a scaling of 1.5
Her Dark Tides has a scaling of .9375
Her blink .5
Her second aoe .75
Plus she heals herself and can stack with drink the spirits.
Kwang has innate lifesteal that is spread to nearby allies, a deadly fucking slow and stun from his ult and a teleport.

You haven't seen a good Kwang if you don't know how horrifying he is

>>167913731
I know how good kwang is, aurora simply outclasses the both of them in most ways, her root which last for 6 seconds and her ult which can hit the whole team unless countess which can only concentrate on one person at a tim, even kwang is limited in the number of enemies he can engage, Aurora however can engage the whole team and stun them with her ult at the same time and root 3 or 2 of them . Aurora is has way more felixibility than anyone in this game when it comes to character strengths

>>167913339
fuck yea first id best id

>>167913339
SRG_Valo

>>167854713
It's a solid choice.

>>167914473
But Aurora doesn't outclass them. Not only can you evade her ring since she can only cast it around her, but her ult does not have a high power scaling and long cooldown almost 2 minutes at rank 1.
Either you dash, teleport, jump or use your shield while she ults or you're Greystone and it doesn't matter.

Kwang can easily duel Aurora, he has twice the sustain, he has an aoe damage teleport ult that slows and has .8 power scaling and does literally twice the damage of Auroras.

And have fun dodging Countess' ult with the 2 second dela-oh right Countess does have a delay.

You can only complain about Aurora if you're just annoyed at her high mobility or play heroes Aurora easily kills like a support champ or adc.

Ward, don't hit the ring, take advantage of the 2 seconds, stick with a teammate, or play someone else or play Aurora.

>>167914974
aurora can right click out of countess ult

>>167914974
if yur character has no leap they aint getting out of her ring unless she casted it in lopsided terrain

>>167915549
If Aurora right clicks away then she doesn't get a kill and Countess can ult someone else 50 seconds later.

>>167915642
I've seen team get hit by Auroras ult, they don't instantly die or lose the game, it simply does not do that much damage and Aurora cannot 1v2 or 1v3 if she isn't fed CP prior.

>>167914473
>What is Muriel shield
>What is honor the pure

>>167914974
Her ult doesnt need a high scale considering it has a stun and two damage burst and it lingers in the air after she cast. Her Ult can catch you while you teleport by the way. I have a much easier time fighting with countess than aurora

>>167915770
Also if aurora does get out of countess ult and she ults her and kills her

>>167915770
what?
>countess and aurora meet
>countess fire waves
>countess ults
>aurora right clicks
>no more ult
>aurora makes ice ring on her
>autos her in the ring.
>countess ded.

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>Seeing yourself get to 1400
>Seeing yourself rapidly drop back to silver

>>167915905
Two damage explosion if they continue to stand near other exploding targets.

If Aurora gets out of Countess' ult, she either will die to dark tides and blade siphon or Countess won't but stupid enough to wait for Aurora to dash or walk back

>>167916052
>then all of a sudden Muriel ults Countess and Aurora dies
Or
>Countess dodged the ring and has lifesteal, killed minions to regen hp
I have no idea why people think Aurora just walks up and one shots everyone with those ratios.
If Aurora was truly that broken she wouldn't have even been added.

I play Countess Aurora gives me no problem when I stand in the midde of her ring, auto, and ult her when she finishes casting her ult. She dies in the 2 seconds before I'm stunned and I heal the entire time.

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>>167916491
You can do it, fighting

>>167916638
>if murdock was truly broken he would never have been added
kek

>>167916638
>countess dodging anything
oh yeah i just love dodging that dash to ice circle combo when i have no escape tools. too easy

>>167917117
>Murdock has high ratios, armor shred amd his ultimate is an aoe stun that explodes and goes through energy armor
What? What is Assassin?
Didn't they just nerf him

>>167917236
no im making fun of you cuz there was one apon a time when murdock could crit for 1800 damage. yet he was still in the game.

>>167917235
Why do you REFUSE to not move from the center of the circle?
You don't even have to touch it and Aurora is immobile while she casts the Hoarfrost.
Shit man don't move and outplay her with your infinitely superior burst.

>>167917313
Make fun of yourself cuh, why didn't you dodge his autos.

>>167917541
cuz her dash is a knock back if it hits you. another form of cc that controls your movement.
if you get hit she can effectively combo her ice circle.
What elo are you in?

>>167917541
nice bait

>>167917663
>because her dash is a point and click and cast animations don't exist
>every single player in this game can perfectly hit her knock back at the perfect distance and every player won't just walk to the side when they see her using glacial charge
Sounds so broken

>>167917748
I'm quite sure it was possible to have a Murdock on your team and end the game before he was full build. Only yourself to blame.

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>>167916910
I-ill try but its been a brutal ride so far

>>167916638
>hen all of a sudden Muriel ults
We are talking about a strick 1v1 dont bring in other characters and team composition

How are we not a full active general?
Are we somewhere else? This game has all the ingredients for it to be successful.why isn't it?
We got sexy waifus,husbondos,we're a fucking moba.explain to me how paladin has more active members.
Although I don't really partake in any of the above I won't deny they are part of group.
I just wanna talk strats/builds and ideas with others here.
Are the shills really necessary for a community?

>>167919043
>1v1
>team game
Bait

>>167920937
>Discuss hero traits in a 1v1 situational fight
>SHE WINS BECAUSE THIS CHARACTER IS ALSO IN ALL OF A SUDDEN
Not how it works

>Playing Aurora
>mirror to enemy
>my team also has a Countess mirror to ours
>their Countess gets 7 kills before 20 minutes
>I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to win this losing game
>decide to help Kwang
>ayy lmao
>outplay their Countess and Aurora
>can't stop laughing
>am stealthed
>sneak up and ult Kwang follows through with his burst ult
>they die again
>check my deck and see if I have some sustain
>all I put in here was lifesteal
>walking around with over 30 lifesteal and laughing off their crit Serath
>laugh my way to Victory
I love this game

>>167921172
Just because a champ can win 1v1 doesn't make it broken.
Literally skill game whoever has more skill wins

>>167921303
The champ can also stun and root your for almost 6 second all together with two abilities back to back and then have two escpaes to get away after shes bursted you, Countess is also more of a one v one character than aurora is amd she still losses if the aurora isn't brain dead or just plain bad

>>167921843
Muriel suppkrt
Purity censer
Divine shield
Honor the pure or similar
Stasis gem
Stop whining

>>167922127
Im not whining,Just telling, that she is better than countess in every way. She does more for your team. Thats what we were discussing,right?

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>enemy Kallari is extremely fed
>our Aurora is recalling
>Kallari ults Aurora before the last second
>immediately executed by landing on base
Good game

>>167922301
Except she's not. If she's so broken then just play her yourself.

>>167924416
Dont like her skill set, More fun playing the other characters

Is Sevarog a meta pick? just started using him and he's fun as fuck.

>>167925152
Opinion discarded

>>167925272
Yes.

>enemy has a Serath
>she's building crit and power
>2/8 because as soon as she steps out she gets CCed the fuck out of
Health is not a bad stat. A few 1 or 2 point health upgrades make a big difference

>>167925956
Why? Because I can see that shes better than countess without having to use her?

>>167926242
Yeah. Practice what you preach. Yiu clearly don't even try to understand the heroes

>>167927181
I have played aurora and didn't enjoy her, I played countess before as well. Aurora is just plain better in game, like you said earlier its a skill game and a team game,Aurora just has more things that she offers that better her team in the long run

>>167919535
Not enough marketing, which is understandable since it's still in beta. People just don't know what Paragon is and so there aren't many players.

>>167919535
It needs two things-marketing and voice chat. A lot of people burned out on silent solo q and stopped playing, and they're not being replaced fast enough. It's all they really need. The game itself is fantastic.

Bump.
I feel like this general is bumped more than used these days. Where has everyone gone?

>>167931110
>These days
It's here for less than a week. Unless you count the previous ones which died. Is anybody planning to play during the next few hours?

>>167931259
There's been a few on and off since March. I can't play right now but I can in a few hours if you're still here.

>>167931332
Well that's what I meant, I'm also occupied at the moment but it' just 1pm where I live so the day have just started.

>job won't stop calling me
FUCK OFF I WANNA PLAY PARAGON

>>167933795
My mother has a habit of somehow always calling me in the middle of the match. I'd gladly talk to you mum, BUT NOT FUCKING NOW!

You're not dying one me!
What do you guys think about the removed orb dunking mechanic? To be honest I kind of liked it. It added a nice additional layer of tactics, a way to comeback even if you lost everything and I had one of my most exiting and intense moments in this game thanks to it. That being said, I haven't made my mind whether removing it was a bad or a good thing.

>>167940239
meant exciting obviously

>day 3
>still no serath skin
It hurts

>>167913339
Ayyy thanks senpai

>>167913339
poorstrike
Only started a couple of days ago though

>want to try howitzer and as mid
>last player just random picked kallari when we needed a support
>fug
>just let kalleri mid and I'd support safe lane because I have range
>mfw

Sheeit support howitzer is pretty good. The concussive mine is op in the early game and howitzer can just clear waves in two rockets. Howitzer best support in damage meta.

>>167913339
It'll be a lot easier to sort out that /parag/ meetup for the skin if anyone's still interested in it

>>167944383
I have it but I'm not gonna share it with u smelly

>Aurora has 6 second root.
>Is a fighter
>the fey has a 0.5 second slow
>is a support.
Nice game epic.

>>167944562
:(

>>167944658
>aurora can be cleansed
>you can't cleanse an ability that is constantly being applied

Aurora buff when

>>167944658
Aurora's is easier to escape. Pretty much any ability with vertical travel or a blink like Gideon's and you're free, but in a jungle alley or a side passage, Fey's line slow can fill the whole path so you can't easy get back from it. It's also easier to prevent escapes- if you shoot it directly at someone on a tower the reflex is to escape backwards, and they'll still be caught long enough for 1-2 extra tower hits

>>167945765
Purity censors effects last 2 seconds.

>>167945912
That sounds only decent in the jungle.
Not so useful for safe lane where you can jump over her slow cause of the slope.

This game will never have voice chat because Reddit doesn't want it.

Reddit is killing this game.

>>167946986
It's great for greedy tower divers, but you're right about it sucking in open areas
In those situations I use it horizontally against the side escape routes to the jungle, can help your carry more than a .5 second slow

>>167947385
Why would this game ever benefit from no voice chat? It should always be an option, no excuse in 2017. Don't use it if you don't want it, mute it if you're too sensitive, but it's an invaluable tool.

>>167947385
desu I'm ok with this as long as they rework the chat wheel thing. I don't want to hear pubs shitposting in my games. If we are in a stack we can use outside sources so it works for me.

>>167945076
I'll give you the skin if you show me some skin ;)

>>167947923
Honestly, I'd be happy if they had a few more speech choices (still kept to a limit of 3 tiers deep), then instead map them to four buttons. Even just as an option, it would be way better for someone like me with an MMO mouse. It's actually better on PS4 since they use the face buttons for it, it's way quicker to hit four buttons than lose control of your crosshair. In Overwatch it's great to be able to almost instantly get across anything I need to just with my thumb, actually quicker than pressing push to talk and saying it.

>>167948960
>>167947923

Stop.

Voice chat.

Accept no substitutes.

>>167949124
I agree, I'm just saying if they strictly keep to text-only. I've made multiple friends as a result of ingame voice chat, some going back to the original Xbox that I still talk to today, it makes a night and day difference to the game.

>>167941689
I know that feeling