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EVE Online General /eog/

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Never 4get

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link(chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
If you upgrade to Omega send me a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>The Guardian's Gala 14-28 Feb
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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first for cap
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Thanks Kev
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So Oruze Cruise let Reyni in, clearly the standards have dropped, so feel free to apply with your awox alts so we can speed up the death of this corp.
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>Reyni
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Patch notes are out.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-yc119.2-release/

>An underlying and far reaching EVE code issue has been identified and fixed. This should resolve various issues across New Eden, including the drone window becoming unresponsive, overview entries not updating/removing, ship HUD issues (including a ship's speed not updating correctly) and more.
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>>167945086
about fucking time
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>>167944236
don't forget to cry if you get declined once
will surely get accepted afterwards
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Join Dronelands today! Pay your rent to comrade xXDEATHXx and you can rat in quiet null space.
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>amarr
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>xXDEATHXx
Who even joins an alliance with a name like that?
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>>167946540
russians basically.
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>>167946540
>xXPIZZAXx
Who even joins an alliance with a name like that?
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>>167946926
Never heard of them.
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Daily reminder that the moros is worse than the nag in every way
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>>167947290
>Who is Reyni, is she cute?
if cancer is cute, the yes
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>she
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>Brave is moving to the south to get away from PL

didn't see this one coming
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>just went over 80M SP
Is it time to buy 20 PLEX, set a queue and forget EVE exists?
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>>167949248

Maybe when they get stabbed in the back by tesco it will finally be the end
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How much of a SP boost will be cerebral accelerator? I found i have come old accounts with shitty alts (4.8m with mostly in in mining and 2.3 mostly in gunnery) and thinking if it's worth revivng them or making new ones.
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4.8 and 2.3 are better than the new ones
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>finally get the skills to join incursions in 2 days
>my corp is wardecced and my sec status is -5.2
Game sucks.
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>in BRAVE
>couldn't finish a single site without having to dock up every 3 minutes because neuts everywhere
>making 30m in a good day
>PL camping our ass
>leadership don't do shit
>finally leave brave and join meme big Alliance
>made 200m in a couple of hours of ratting in a VNI

why did I fall for the brave meme

I wonder if brave leadership isn't just a bunch of PL alts who created a huge scam to farm new players
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>>167955605
While Brave is not a scam, farming them to force people to join Horde is literally PL's plan. Obviously.
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Brave are great to get pvp experience with, but less so to make tons of ISK. It's possible that they're finally realising that feeding pl content whenever they appear to shit on them won't get rid of them, and that fucking off elsewhere is the best way to deal with them if they're intent on farming you and you can't escalate to meet their forces. It goes against Brave's instinct to take fights and have fun, but regrettably has to be done. It's not something that's easy for leaders to deal with, although I've no idea whether Brave leadership has improved since they were last in catch.

Which meme big alliance did you join?
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>>167954293
Okay...even though 2.9m is mining i will leave thiss one untill i decide what to level him in, maybe just standard PI but feel wastefull without training all 3 slots, or just meme ORE miner.
And i guess and i guess make taht 2.8m one into pirate mission runner or again PI...
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>>167955930

I'm sure PL has some grand plans, but really doubt this is one of them at the min. PL is largely run by whichever FCs are active at the time, so if a few people decide having a go at Brave is fun then they'll go and kick over their sandcastle at the min. A lot of Horde leadership is actually pretty pissed off with PL for repeatedly destroying local content, with Brave being a great source of content for new players and training for FCs that is wandering off to the south.
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>>167956348
I bet 100isk it was karmafleet
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>>167955605
On a not so bitter note, I did learn a lot in brave, and I would recommend the Corp to anyone who wishes to learn how to live in null, fleet ops and pvp. Most people in brave are also really friendly and fun.

And no I didn't join Karmafleet nor Horde. I'd rather kill myself than being part of PL or goons.
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so does this guy just suck egons dick or does he service other people too?
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>>167955605
>why did I fall for the brave meme
because you listened to the /dog/ retards
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If you are in a big meme alliance you are missing out.
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what's a meme
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>paladin
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>overload mwd one cycle
>nothing took heat damage
>"cool, I can overload one cycle per dock at no cost!"
>dock, undock, 0 heat on ship
>overload one cycle
>half my mods take 18% damage
h-help
What did I do wrong?
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>>167958236
>>"cool, I can overload one cycle per dock at no cost!"

no
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>>167958159

Lewd
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>>167958593
Why not? It worked like 10 times in a row before.
And now half my mods burned.
Are T2 modules more heat resistant or something? Only non-t2 took damage.
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>>167958236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V3ueIUBr3U

There is a little RNG to overheating but not much.
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>>167958159
>>167943904
>the shittier the art, the higher the odds of finding a watermark in it
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>Can't go on fleet ops or roams because I don't have 3 hours of free time to spare most days
>Don't do home system defense because I know the defense fleet is incompetent as fuck
Wat do for PVP?
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>>167959220
Find a better job than lets you have more free time.
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Did this game ever become undeaded? How did f2p go. Did they fix links. Is it fun yet.
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>>167959765

Still dead

I'm expecting Sunday when they do their show they'll tell us how alpha retention is going

No still not fun
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>>167959765
F2p didn't do much.
A bit dead.
There are no more links.
Sometimes fun but mostly same shit.
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>>167958852
Thanks for the link.
So it's a RNG-based heat "bleed" damage, huh.
Since the MWD itself never took damage, yet at least, I'm assuming that excluding the "bleed" there's a heat threshold after which the overheated module itself starts taking damage.

So if I have nothing but an MWD fitted, I can actually get away with 1 cycle overload for free.
Can't imagine where that'd prove useful, but nevertheless good to know.
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>>167958159
what's wrong with it?
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>>167959765
dead doesn't mean anything. kys
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>>167961616
deep
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>>167962502
He's right though. Calling a game dead in the /v/ way is meaningless because 99% of games that are mentioned as dead that way still have enough players to do anything you want.
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>get a environmental damage mission
>combat probes on d-scan
>oh dis gun b gud
>permarun mwd so I'm an easier target for probes
>he's done, probes pulled, he's warping in
>"Your computer detects that a giant wave of deadly gases and debris is incoming any second now!"
>yes, yes yes! Warp in already goddammit!
>one second before he lands on grid
>"Waves of radiation, debris and hazardous gas blast into your ship. The dangerous currents have subsided ... for now."
Nooooooooooooo! So close!
He was in a shitfit underskilled cruiser too, would have been an instakill I'm sure.
Literally saved by not using sisters' probes.

Lucky bastard. That'd learn him a valuable lesson.
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>>167962725
>/v/
You walked through the wrong board, kiddo.
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>>167963559
Nope. You did. And you should go back.
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>le not /v/ meme

awful
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But this is /vg/.
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>>167955605
>in TEST
>spent the last months moving, fighting and burning through my Isk
>entosis shit all day every day
>fucked up sleep schedule because of all the timers in Russian TZ
>leadership invites fucking BRAVE to catch and sets them blue
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>>167964198
Yes. That's why you need to go back to /v/.
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>>167964198
the posts quality suggest the posters are from /v/
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>tfw been on a 13.9" screen for 2 years now
>getting a 34" ultrawide in 4 days time

Can't wait to actually see my spaceship and the other half of my overview
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>we here on /vg/ are much more classy than /v/ plebs
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>>167964606

As opposed to /vg/ shitposting and passive aggressive meme arrows with no response
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>>167965008
>>167964198
>>167963559
I bet you'd say that dyel or poo in loo are vg memes too if they were posted here, you fucking moron
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>>167964536
But I am not from /v/?
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>>167964518


Thanks for all the free ratting friend.
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>>167960164
>>167961194
>no more links
woah they actually did it? Maybe I'll come back. Is hazing alpha clones a thing? Or is CCP still obsessed with preventing fun.
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>>167966979
your questions are stupid
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>>167967031
for you
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>>167966979
If i answer your questions, will you leave?
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>>167966979
"Hazing" alphas is no different than hazing anyone else. But if you are asking if you can gank newbies in starter systems- you can't. You can shit on mining ventures in other high sec systems, those are mostly alphas.
>ask if the game is dead
>wants to fuck over new players
I hope you at least give them some advice.
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Are the Guardian's Gala sites on Sisi yet?
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>>167968252
Maybe he asks if the game is dead to know whether he should invest into making it dead.
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>>167964518
That's what you get for being in a cucked, pants on head retarded Reddit alliance like TEST.
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How much worth of cargo is 591k tank freighter capable of moving without becoming a target of opportunity?
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>>167969818
about tree fiddy
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>>167970168
Get out with your /co/ memes this is /vg/ not /co/ go back to /tv/ this is /vg/ you can't use this meme here go away leave now please go
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>>167969818
Keep it under 1b and use a webbing alt. Jita-Amarr isn't worth doing yourself because courier contracts are so cheap.

The guys that are ganking freighters make so much Isk that becoming a target is more of a question of how bored they are.
They'll gladly spend some Isk just to fuck with you.
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>>167968252
I don't think I ever ganked a new player. I killed some new player in a war dec but I'm pretty sure he didn't care because he spent the next 2 months following me around asking advice. Now that I think about it I took a bunch of new players out on suicide roams to FW so I guess I'm a big guy.
Imma go check on my old corp and see what they are up to. Hopefully they left homospace.
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>>167970342
It's not for trading, it's for suitcasing.
Trying to estimate how many trips do I have to split my goods into.
First estimate is 2 trips: high volume hulls (~1-1.5b) in freighter then low volume mods (2-3b) in something safer like a blockade runner.

But I may have to do more trips to ensure safety.
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hey redditchan. is eve dying?
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>>167971426
>ferox.jpg
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>>167959220
make your home defense fleet great again

what nullblob?
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gotcha senpai
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infinite ammo
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>>167971973
>hurricane.png
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>>167974487
we don't have any hurricane memes though
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>>167975429

Time you made some then
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>tfw only stay in corp for the blue standing with local bullies and being too lazy to move
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Is there any reason to fly a Kronos over the other marauders aside from being able to roleplay as a police officer with the skin?
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>>167977450
are you unronically pvping with it
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>want to play the game
>don't know what to do
Please no "go back to WoW".
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>>167977714

Someone will post the career tree, its a great image but I don't have it on my phone.
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>>167977606
If shooting corp mates who stray out of the "arena" whenever we do sisi tournaments counts as pvp, then sure.
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Is EVE dying
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>>167977935
I saw it, and I'm not even new. It's just I don't really enjoy any activities. Big fleets are just pressing F1, PvE is a boring grind, solo is way too slow, I don't have the patience to roam around doing nothing trying to find a good fight, I don't like trading, small and micro gangs is what I enjoy the most, but I don't those that often. And they are not always great too. Maybe I should find another corp. I'm not really a social person so being a FC or social engineering is not for me either. I just don't know man.
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>>167955930
I am not sure that it is the case. Other than cause they can, PL fucks with Brave because they are bad at the game. That's why Horde was created, Brave got stomped for being shit at the game and they wanted to make a newbie corp that didn't suck ass.

Also I am not sure what PL's endgame would be with supposedly feeding people into Horde. Horde keeps all its taxes (not sure about moons though) for Horde. And a lot of the time PL doesn't even cooperate with Horde outside of a few key people who are present in both organizations.
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>>167978401

Honestly the most fun I'm having atm is as a tackle in any size fleet. Even in big fleets its a lot more engaging than just F1. You're free to look for targets, grab stragglers trying to make a getaway from bubbles etc. I'm getting a lot better at piloting and I've secure quite a number of kills for my mates this way too.
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>>167978401
honestly I just wouldn't play the game dude. Eve isn't even that great of a game in the grand scheme of things, its just that no other game makers have had the balls to step up to compete.
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>>167978518
Horde is PL's insurance policy. They've got all the FCs, Isk and caps they need but they cannot field huge subcap numbers on their own. There's only so many ships their members can multibox.

Without Horde PL would be vulnerable to NCdot, Russians and Goons. Even TESTCO could put up a good fight.
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what did he mean by this?
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>>167979081
yes that is very true. I just don't think that point comes into play as often as people claim it does. Like bigger picture sure, but any time PL runs a fleet there is always one guy saying its cause PL wants people to leave corp and get +1 people into Horde!!!
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>>167979663
copy and paste it into a binary translator
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>>167979663
he's offering you a vni bpo, but only if you accept in two minutes
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>>167980090
>Enemies are upon us. Activate Code A6192. Defense Mechanism Active!

I was hoping it was hunter alvi after my dick again
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>>167980347
Rogue drones are cute.
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Is living in nullsec really worth it when you can run incursions and blitz lvl4s in high sec? Carrier ratting is what, around 150 mil Isk/hour? That's highsec Isk/hour and even running FW lvl4s is better.

I know I could ''''''AFK''''' rat in VNIs but if I'm plexing 4 accounts and one of them flys a Nignoggur why not run lvl5s instead?

Is null just for people with lots of PI alts and multiple Rorquals?
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>>167981231
because Level 5's initial investment is upwards of 7 billion just for carriers, fits and fighters
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>>167982131
totes worth
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>>167981231
null also has pvp
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>>167980347
look at those lewd legs
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>>167981231
don't you have to travel a lot for missions ? I just do 3 jumps from my home citadel and make 30 mil / hr + loot in my low SP t1 cruiser in null.
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>>167980705
>>167983160
anime roleplay aside, I do like how they move
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>>167983759
>low sp t1 cruiser
>in null
is mission payouts higher in lowsec systems better? i'm a new player.
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>>167985345
the lower the sec status the more you get
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>>167985345
I have no idea about running missions. I haven't done any outside of t1 missions before. In null sec you just kill the rats for bounties in the asteroid belts and in cosmic anomalies which you can make appear consistently through ihub upgrades which you can do if you control a solar system.
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>>167943904
Daily reminder the sleepers cucked the entire Amarr fleet by fucking their queen to death
Daily reminder the cucks couldn't do shit
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>>167947025

it has a prettier shape AND has the interbus skin available to it.
The nag is just more useful in all combat scenarios that don't invove POCOs or POSs without shields.

Moros: 2
Nag: 1

I'm sorry but that's not quite enough for the nag to even be on par with the moros.
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>>167986883
>huge turd is a prettier shape than a flying wing
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>>167985345
In high sec you only have to move if you want to keep standings with all 4 empire factions high. If you don't care about standings you can just park your mission alt in a system and never move.
L4 burners can be up 4-5 jumps away which is why lowsec or npc null missions aren't really worth it unless you live in the area.

Incursions have a lower SP req, make more Isk and have the advantage that you don't need standings.
The downside is that you have to deal with incursion autists and can't just log on and grind Isk like with missions.

L4 missions are only worth running once you can fly most of the ships required for burners.

Ratting in a VNI is better Isk than running non-burner L4.
>>167983759
The lower the true sec status of the agent system the more LP you get.
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>>167986883
>Not wanting to fly the Mothership
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>Drone Signal: Notify location #9886. Hierarchy empty.
>Drone Signal: Independence Lost.
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http://www.olganon.org/forum/i-need-help-spousessignificant-others-open-forum/my-husband-addicted-eve-online
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>Added a 'buy missing material' option to industry window.
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Am I nullbearing correctly?
I've got a really high up safe, and warp down to an anom at 70km. So even a psychic interceptor knowing which anom I'm in since they're out of d-scan range coming in horizontally from a gate the closest they can warp in is 0 to the beacon, then have to mwd up to me and that's assuming I didnt also punch the MJD and be out 170km
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>unironically still in space when neuts enter local
Your already too late
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>>167992637
his what is already too late?
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>Donate 1b to my corp because they are fundraising for a thing
>Don't even get a "thanks"
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>>167993173
>getting scammed by your own corp
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>>167993173
>competition where they basically just want free ratting loot to build some shit for the industry people in exchange for raffle tickets to win something
>wh opens up 5 jumps from jita
>sell all the shit myself
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>>167993173
>line members donate POS
>spend a week hauling and them setting up
>lots of boring ops to rep them
>CEO tells us it's for the greater good and we may get cap SRP out of it
>it's all for some turbojew directors's private reaction farm
>he doesn't even log in his PVP chars
>fucks off with all the POS and the Isk to join Shadow Cartel 2 months later
>leadership claims they didn't see it coming
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What can we expect?
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>be in horde
>never go on fleets
>only do home defense pvp in massive uncoordinated blobs against 1 or 2 people when I feel like it
>literally free isk for whoring on kills
Mmhm
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Eve is the ultimate "sit and watch the numbers go up" game.
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>>167996656
life is
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>>167996656
sometimes you watch them go down
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjxzXBDeSHc
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oneiros
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>>167995660
trit @ 1.5 by July
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any good movies in the past year I can marathon while ratting in my new rattlesnake?
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>>168000220
there is a whole board dedicated to this shit and it's not /vg/
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>>168000202
this

INFLATION IS A LIE

LIQUIDATE YOUR ASSETS OR WATCH YOUR NETWORTH CRUMBLE

YOUR LEADERS KNOW WHAT'S COMING

THEY'RE JUST NOT TELLING YOU
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>>168000604
Production has spiked massively.
Minerals/ship markets will crash hard unless CCP changes something or everyone just goes warrr mode
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Yes, yes, liquidate everything for something that may or may not be introduced in december 2017 :^)
Don't forget to buy some SKINs tho! And a Rorqual. And some injectors to pilot it. Sell Rorqual after it gets nerfed and people online their first platforms. Good goy!
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platforms are for moonshit you fag
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>>168001142
>Drilling Platforms focus on resource harvesting, mainly with reprocessing, moon harvesting, reactions, mining, gas harvesting, or new harvesting mechanics.
>creating and gaining mineral wealth
>mining, gas harvesting
>mining
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CCP have no idea what they are doing, do they.
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>>167986883
>The nag is just more useful in all combat scenarios that don't invove POCOs or POSs without shields
The moros does the same dps as the nag stupid ass
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>think about logging on
>don't log on
phew, that was a close one
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>>168001891
same
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>yfw space was right but you didn't listen
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>a year in now
>skill injector prices still holding high
time to make 20 alphas and get in on some of that fat dosh
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>>168002520
if there are too many skill farm alts wouldnt the price go down? Currently you get about a 400mil profit per character and we havent even reached the point where alphas are hitting their SP limit
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>Finally skilled into Confessor
What do I do now?
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>>168004608
biomass and start again
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>>168003870
Injector price can never drop below the cost of plex ing the accounts for long. If one of the guys running big SP farms decides to cash out and floods the market traders will drive the prices back up.
I think margins will get smaller though.
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>>168001302
since they pushed it back so far i don't think they will do it for other stuff. the main thing is going to be to replace POS's for extracting moon goo.
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>>167985001
does anyone actually know who this is ? I think its a PL alt alliance but I am not 100%.
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>>168008251
>push it back so it can do less than advertised
Sounds like CCP all right.
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pretty stoked for shekel madness
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>>168008353
Yeah it's PL/waffles
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Best missile/bomber damage to use? Should I even waste my time on stealth bombers?
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>>168012487
there is no best damage type

if your group has opportunities for you to use a stealth bomber it should be obvious to you
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>>167980347
Cute!

>Enemies are upon us. Activate Code A6192. Defense Mechanism Active!
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>>167946094
Иди нaхyй.
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>>168012487
You can't go wrong with Hound/Purifier. Best damage type depends on the region's NPC rats.
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>>168012553
>>168014017
So how do fleets organize stealth bomber damage for the situation in PvP?
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>>168014017
>stealth bomber
>rats
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>>168014353

Are you retarded?
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>>168014017
>ratting with a stealth bomber
wut
They are all pretty good, if you have skill injectors and you are going to use it, get a purifier, shield tanking is in right now so its the best atm.
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>shield tanking is in right now
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>>168014728
>armor tanking
How's that 10s align time working out for you?
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>>168014017
>Best damage type depends on the region's NPC rats
>region's NPC rats
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Is it still possible to make unscannable ships? Back in the day I did mission running in 0.0 with stealthbomber that had a signature radius / sensor strenght -ratio of over 1 and it simply could not be found with probes. Has that mechanic changed?
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>>168015514
Yes
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>>168014353
>>168014520
>>168015148

Because you want to hit the types that the ratters aren't tanked for you fucking carebears

Don't pretend to know shit when you've never even flown a ship
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>>168015514
Anything is possible if you believe in yourself, anon! You can do it! Don't give up hope on your dreams!
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>>168015612
>>168015680
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>>168015673
>hunting VNIs in a stealth bomber
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>>168015774
>he doesn't roam in groups
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x hard tackle
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>>168014520
>>ratting with a stealth bomber
>tfw when you made your first few billions when you were fixing sec status by belt ratting in a Purifier and financed your super with grinding FW missions in bombers
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>>168014221
if they're doing bombs then they just pick one, and if they aren't doing bombs then it doesn't matter
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>financed your super with grinding FW missions in bombers
Why would you do that to yourself?
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>>168016405
newfag
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>Poking around holes near home system in my explo fit Proteus on its maiden voyage
>Pop out 3 jumps from Amarr
>Ask corpmates if they need anything picked up
>Grab some skillbooks from Amarr
>Wardeccer in a Cynabal scrams and webs me on the Kor-Azor Prime gate
>Dude has a 4+ billion bounty, probably does this for a living
>Decide to fight it out
>We're both buffer tanked like hell, but I slowly edge out a lead after the fight being really close
>Have analyzers fit instead of tackle because I was expecting to hack cans, not fight folks
>He bails at 30% armor
>Exchange gfs and rep up before heading home
Not gonna lie, that was pretty spooky.
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>>168016405
I haven't done them in years but FW lvl 4s used to be 500+ mil/hour per bomber account and that was after the initial nerf.
You could easily multibox several bombers and rake in a couple bil every day in just 2-3 hours. If you've ever wondered how ~elite pvp~ FWfags like TMFED could afford to welp endless blingy T3s and HG pirate sets this is how.
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>>168015862
>he has friends

ok normo
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>>168017480
Enjoy having no fun and no money solobabby
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>>168017030
>wardeccer
>gf
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>>168017298
I knew it was good money but I didn't know it was that good. So was it better than running level 5s in a carrier?
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>>168017667
Normally I wouldn't, but the guy had the balls to actually pick a fair fight.
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>>168017724
Yeah because it scaled with the number of accounts you had and the initial investment was so low. Also ISBoxer was still a thing.
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>>167964518
>literally joins reddit: the alliance
what did you expect
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>>167992274
>MJD
>not being aligned to the safe space
>not docking up to grab your pvp ship
>not being in a fleet and fucking up whoever decided to be a retard and enter your system
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Is it worth it to bookmark incursion sites to use as safe spots?
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>>168018929
no
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>Camping a relic site in null with Astero
>Two hours go by
>Finally a Helios uncloaks and starts hacking a site
>Start moving in, about to decloak and jump him
>Nemesis uncloaks 4000m off me and engages Helios
>Mfw he was camping the same site as me
>Engage the Nemesis
>He is surprisingly tanky
>Helios warps off
>Nemesis is 50% armor and going down pretty easy
>+2 in local
>Ohfuck
>Vexor on scan
>FUCK
>About to kill Nemesis
>Vexor lands on grid and starts analing me
>Kill Nemesis
>Dominix lands on grid
>Mfw they lose scram on me
>Warp to safe
>Heart beating fast and hands a little shaky

I can see this whole solo pvp thing getting pretty addicting. Anyone else have stories they would like to tell?
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>>168019116
Yes, I warped to a site. It was actually ur mum. I sucked her dick that night.
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>>168015514
No. There's a hard cap now after which it has no effect. It's still possible to make ships that can only be probed by a max skill prober with Virtues though.
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>>168019229
I have two dads you fucking bigot
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>>168019116
>Two hours go by
that's a bit shit
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>>168019116
You could have gotten that sweet relic site isk and you chose to be a faggot. What a riveting tale.
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>>168019506
I was watching streams and youtube and shit, it wasn't like I was staring at nothing for the whole time

>>168019593
Pls don't cyberbully me, I already do a lot of exploration and thought it would be fun to be the boogeyman instead of the one running away.
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>>168019096
But what if they're out of dscan range of all celestials, senpai? Won't the bullies think I'm cloaked and leave me alone?
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>>168015514
CCP claims it's impossible to be unscannable now.
But probably something retarded like a halo zephyr is still doable.

tl;dr changes:
It's easier to make it so it takes plenty of cycles to scan you down (so if you're watching d-scan you have a lot of forewarning).
It's harder/impossible to actually be unscannable.
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>Mr Hyde reviving IRL death threats

I hope he biomasses ((in game)).
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>>168022116
what happened, was there more leddit drama
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>>168022116

>Only voted in because just like goon/nc candidates his alliance blob votes for him without caring about his policies
>For that he and his alliance get unfair advantages including early information about ship changes by CCP before anyone else (breaking CSM rules)
>'oh, you exploited an obvious bug AGAIN? well don't do it again, no further action will be taken'

How does he not expect people to be angry at the obvious special treatment he and other populist CSM members receive,
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>gallente skins
>the grey parts will always be grey
CCP
FUCK
YOU
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>>167956857
>nor Horde
>I'd rather kill myself than being part of PL
What did he mean by this?
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>CSM
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>stratpaps
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>>168022183
he's saying people shouldn't vote for mr meme video and that it'll end up like it did with le funneh torp man.
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>>168024503
What's up
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>>167956857
So who did you join? Darkness? Tri? FCON?
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>scanning paplinks
why did I ever join All-Out
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LF no pap, no api, no activity req, no doctrine, no oog comms, not engaging in any oog activity, small roam focused (to the point where if too many people x up, they split into several fleets), loose-knit corp with mutual benefits of teamwork at no practical cost.
Any space. Ideally 100+ members, and not null or WH.

Are there any corps like that?
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>>168026376
make friends in bringingsoloback or microgang help channels
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ded game ?
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>>168026376
lowsec solopvp corps are like that
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>>168026802
>>168027139
Thanks for suggestions, I'll look into it.

Keep in mind I'm not hellbent on solo, small roam with some sense of belonging with maximum level of privacy and absolutely zero leak of in-game stuff out to real life.
That's the idea.
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>Amarr
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Is there a reason to do missions for not-sisters? It seems like they are the only stable and profitable corp.
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>>168029442
in highsec, no
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>>168030630
Well, there is no diffirence between lp conversion in high or low sec and in null there is only pirates and ORE.
Unless im missing something
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>click approach\align\orbit on anytning
>ship just starts orbiting around where it was when i gave command
>if i se speed to 0 it just spins around on one place
Uh, what the fuck? Warp still works but i can't get anywhere.
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>Be ratting in a nullsec pocket.
>grow attached to the place it's well served by ratting buyback services and an OK market.
>All buybacks are 97 jita buy percent and competition between them makes their pick up snappy and fast.
>All but two buybacks close
>Both lower their prices to 95 percent jita buy
>Both get super defensive and block people when they complain about the 2 percent loss.


Rough times ahead with these two numpties.
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>>168036803
>he doesn't have JF and doesn't sell his loot himself
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>>168036803
The solution is to keep collecting loot and sell it back to the first person who starts another 97 percent jita buy program or process it yourself into raw materials for industry with an alt.
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>>168036803
>both lower what they pay back to ratters
>Both get defensive when confronted about that.

Space jews.
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>Gaylente
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>still no resistance penetrating ammo
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-city-of-myrskaa-sealed-off-state-peacekeepers-drafted-in/

Is this the end of days?
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>>168047087

Eve-based DayZ spinoff to be announced.
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Daily reminder that the moros is worse than the nag in every way
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>Those guys who use Japanese names for their character despite not being or knowing Japanese
Weebs get out
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>>168049014
>Those guys who use Amarrian names for their character despite not being or knowing Amarrian
RPers get out
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>those Japanese guys that use English names for their characters despite not speaking English

Fucking westaboos.
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>tfw bought at least 8 serpentis skins
>still have 1800 aurum left
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>not interbus
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>>168051620

I got the celestis interbus one which is the best
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>oh man a sleeper cache these have good loot right?
>>polarized gun bpcs

ccp pls
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>>168024645
what happened with the torp man. i missed it.
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>think about making second accound
>realise i have no use for it besides some meme autism like pirate missions or something else.
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Anybody recruiting for wh corp? No bully pls
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>>168055689
You should still train skills on an alpha just in case
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>>168055030
le funneh torp man got voted into the csm because he makes le funneh videos
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Noctis needs a salvage cone aoe to quickly do all the wrecks near the MTU otherwise I'll stick with a salvage frig/dessy
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>>168058826
nerf mtus desu
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>>168058826
It definitely needs something currently I just drop off MTUs at sites then afk for a bit and then I come back and scoop it up in my full salvage dessy. Better afk setup than a noctis and I won't be hurting for 75m + if I get blown up
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>drop MTU at site
>autists blow them up and tell diplos I dropped them in their site
>diplos can't tell who is full of shit
>tfw you already have 3 ratting drama strikes because if this and 5 get you kicked from corp
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>get blown up in wh by an Astero with combat drones
w-why
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>>168058826
>salvage DD
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>>167943904
>Ideal "job"" in EVE would be ninja salvaging combat sites in wormholes
>This is literally impossible because of player traffic
Fug
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What's a good way to make passive income in this game? PI looks promising?

I've been ratting for months upon months all to save up cash to support PvP and greater more elaborate ratting setups but it's gotten to the point where i'm just so damn sick of ratting.

I need supplemental income here.
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>passive income
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>I've been ratting for months upon months all to save up cash to support PvP
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>kinda want to stop playing
>but if i do will end up having to grind a PLEX from alpha status again

so basically i am forced to bank a PLEX before I stop playing but I am only half way there.
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>>168062185
PI is generally a pretty good way to go. On the high end I know some people who have a legion of alts that they use to keep track of lots of places. As I understand it with about 2 hours of work a week they generate pretty good cash from the stuff they manufacture through it.

Industry is really a safe bet just in general. Not having to constantly micro manage the process is a treat. It's nice to just see the production timers and go "ok I don't have to deal with this for x amount of days now" and then move on while you wait. If you're in a low sec pocket you can just figure out what's in demand and be the local supply guy. The markup is always good. Nobody ever went broke selling gear to ratters.
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I don't understand why someone would declare war on my industrial corp. We're small and don't even talk to anyone. All we do is own a pos 3 jumps from jita and make a small amount of stuff. it's fucking bullshit.
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>>168062185
Lot of people make their cash on the character markets. Smart investments and patience pay off in a big way.
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>>168063292
Because they want to blow you up senpai
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>>168063292
>declare war

they have autism, there's a lot of it in highsec
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>>168063292
they're looking for a cheap kill
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>>168063061
Yes, good goy.

Keep playing our game
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>>168062185
POS reaction farming is a bitch to set up and requires a high initial investment but depending on the setup you can make as much as 20 percent of your initial investment per month.
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>free ammo
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>>168063061
SP farm if you have more than 5.5mil SP
https://www.eve-mogul.com/ftp
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>>168064328
>>168064398
>>168064450

my brother said he was going to hire mercs if they put the pos into reinforce. i think these faggots are wasting their time desu. the corp only has like 31 active characters on zkillboard. seems like they're going to be wasting an awful lot of time to kill our pos.
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>>168060786
Could have just inspected the wrecks and ask if you could drop an MTU. A huge majority of my corpmates never care.
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>rat in my VNI
>guys from German corp in my alliance tell me to leave '''their''' system
>alliance doesn't have any actual rule that says corps can own systems
>when I point this out they blow up my ship with a Titan
>leadership laughs at me and says it's just a VNI when I complain
>back to belt ratting in a destroyer
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>>168065740
why not just temporarily take down the POS temporarily until it passes?
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>>168065891
Good corp wouldn't do that, just saying.
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>>168065891
Write a full story with all the details. Include names and chat logs if you can. Name and shame these faggots. Make a reddit post with all that shit and see how HR enjoys their negitive PR.
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>>168065891
>they blew up your VNI with a titan
post loss mail
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>>168065891
Holy fuck, you guys manage find some really shitty alliances. Which was it?
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>>168065891
Should have lit that cyno and dropped 20 super alts
The resulting drama would be glorious
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>>168065891
>leadership laughs at me and says it's just a VNI when I complain

I hate bullshit like that. Feels like every corp just treats their ratters like trash.
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>>168066419
I asked him that earlier and he said stop being a cuck. He apparently wants to waste their time killing his pos. he also has nothing else to spend his billions on. So hiring mercs to deal with the german corp that seems to have hired these people is his current plan.

all i want to do is build ships ffs
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>>168068759
There is a good chance that they are just a bunch of cucks looking for easy kills on people who don't pvp, in highsec. Unless you have reason to believe they are going after your pos then they are prob not going to touch it
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>>168068759
Does he realize that the mercs he hired are very likely to wardec you right after their contract ends? This is how these highsec ''''PVP'''' corps make their Isk. They know that you've got money and that you can't defend your shit, so why leave you alone?
>he also has nothing else to spend his billions on
you can never have enough SP farming characters
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>>168068482
>every corp
Horde doesn't desu
>>
Yes, good goys, join Horde.
We have elite PeeVeePee
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>>168065891
calling your bullshit, no titans awoxed any VNIs for ages.

https://zkillboard.com/group/30/awox/
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>>168065891
Were you doomsdayed?
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>>168065740
What corp is it senpai?
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defender can accept assistance in a war, so you could get all the elite r/eog corps to help you out
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>>168071609
>the elite r/eog corps
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>>168068984
The crop isn't active in jita which is what has him worried about it.

>>168069247
I'm sure he's aware of it. I just don't think he cares much. If the pos gets destroyed I don't think he plan on setting up another one. He seems to make far more money from flipping contracts anyways.

>>168071269

Funatix
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>blue hanging out in system for a bit too long
>Member of corp for less than a day
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>>168072607
>finally make it through recruitment process that would have made the KGB proud
>had to hand over API to every last shitty trial I've ever tied to my main
>HR even crossreferenced old alt corps and asked me about people I flew with years ago
>read alliance forums
>some corps have under 60% API coverage and there's people who aren't even authed
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>>168073531
sounds like you should've joined one of those better corps
>>
I just started eve, what is a smart/fun thing to do in eve if you don't have much free time to play (maybe around 10-15 hours per week)
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>>168074927
small gang pvp with m8s
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>>168074927
PI is easily accessible and good isk for the time invested, but pretty tedious.
>>
>>168075057
>>168075028
what about mining, if mining in eve is similar to woodcutting in runescape I think I will have pretty good time
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>have a pretty good time doing nothing
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>>168072490
>Funatix
They're pretty big but they're mostly after free ship and pod kills, not pos. Unless they decced exclusively to murder it which most likely isn't the case.
Give them no kills and they will let the war lapse and won't renew it. They are the kind of faggots that declare against all corps that have nothing in their war history - once you have had their war there they won't bother no more.
Unless you feed them kills, so make sure you don't.

Mercs is probably a bad idea unless the deccers actually disrupt your operations (like if they actually manage to threaten your pos).
More trouble than worth.
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>>168075634
Mining is very low effort, but also really boring and tedious. You get in a mining ship, warp to an asteroid belt, target some asteroids, press F1 and F2, then go afk for 15-30 minutes while your ore hold fills up. It doesn't require constantly clicking like mining/woodcutting in Runescape so it can be done practically afk but it makes very little money compared to more active professions.
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>>168075935
how much time would it take to mine myself into omega user
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>>168076357
An alpha Venture miner with good skills makes about 4-5 million isk an hour mining in high-sec. Plexes are currently 1.05 billion isk.
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>>168076357
Months.
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>>168076431
You can also join null sec alliances and mine better ore with boosts.
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>>168074927
Join a corporation.
Some give free ships.
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>>168075870
>they're mostly after free ship and pod kills, not pos
I hope that's the case. I planned on just not playing for a week or two till it blows over.
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>>168076357
You would need to value your time extremely little. If you *just* made your account and didn't use the recruit a friend code then remake your account and do that. It will give you like 150k SP extra (or something like that) and the guy will trade you the plex he gets when you upgrade to omega. Take the $20 hit to upgrade to omega, get the extra plex from the dude then you have two months of play time, or a month and 1b isk. After that I would suggest exploration because you can make a lot of isk/h for pretty little SP. At this point you should be able to pay ingame money for your sub.
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>>168076923
Even mining null ore with boosts an alpha would only be looking at around 20m isk an hour (the ore being worth around twice as much and ~50% duration reduction boosts for 4x profit) so that's still around 50 hours mining for a plex. Unless he's level 99 autistic he'd likely quit before then.
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How does the gila compare to VNI for ratting?
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>>168077616
I hear the Gila costs more but you need less SP to use it well. But the VNI has better isk/h if you have the SP
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>>168077616
if you just want to 100mn and afk in nullshitter anoms it's probably worse
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>150km neuts
>"carrier" just has turrets with extreme range and damage, will apply damage to any target

ccp does it again
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/eog/ needs capacitor
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>>168079291
Same shit with the faction dreads
>can web out to 70km and can track frigates at any range
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>>168083614
high quality game design
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>>168083287
>If you don't fit anything on your ship, it will always be cap stable
>>
>guristas
>lai dai
>valkyrie
>literally the same thing with extremely minor differences
lazy fucks
>>
You guys think Eve would be a better game if they gave structures a long time to kill (TTK) instead of reinforcement timers ?

Like just from a player morale perspective I think getting into a couple's hour long siege would be better than, hey grind away these first stages and hope we aren't doing anything more important days from now because if thats the case, all the work you did is useless!

You could still have vulnerability windows though so people just dont play the timezone game.
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>>168087216
>Like just from a player morale perspective I think getting into a couple's hour long siege would be better

Nigger have you ever gone on a pos bash? It is pretty fun!
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>>168088553
i have. and people may not like it but whats totally worse is bashing it and having to trust that at some point in the future someone will finish the job and oh by the way unless you show up to finish it you get no credit for the work you did the first time.
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I'm a returning player so I dont know much about these new structures.
Which one is safer to be storing my shit in?
There's the big square icon and it's listed under stations in the solar system info page.
And then there's the astrahus and some raitarus
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>>168089181
citadels have an asset safety feature:
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety
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>>168089036
Sure it could be better, but I'm not sure making it hours long is going to help.
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>>168089484
well the fastest you can currently kill a citadel now is 1hr 15 mins. Its just spread over 3 separate fights. And I mean for keepstars it would be silly if you could one in a few mins. I am not sure about smaller stuff but for a keepstar yeah it would have to be a few hours at least.
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>>168036803
>complaining about horde babies being babies
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>retards still play eve
>when X3 the superior game exists
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>tfw grinding security missions
>notice tengu in dscan
>distance: 44km
>imactuallyautistic.jpg
>give him the good old "hey man..." as he proceeds to fuck me anally
>says he will complete mission for me
>asks me if it's done
>"yeah thanks"
>it's not

too new for this game :(
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Which 3 races should my alpha toons be?
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>>168092889
gallente x3
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>>168092957

this
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>>168092889
amarr x3
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>>168092957
>>168093052
(you)
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>>168091496
its a single player game. and i sure as hell dont play eve for single player content.
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>toon
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>>168093091
>>
>>168091496
>retards still play X3
>when X2 the superior game exists
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>>168092957
>>168093052
>>168093091
>>168093568
(you)
>>
>retards still play EVE, X2, and X3
>when the superior star citizen, the space game to end all space games, is just around the corner
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>>168093976
That's a long corner
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>>168093976
>star citizen

>playing the poster child of crowd funding scams
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>>168093976
>people still play x game when y is not even released yet
>why????????????
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>>168093568
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>>168094164
>>168094167
>>168094315
/eog/ is too easy
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>>168094387
>>168094590
(you)
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>>168094515
>pretending to be retarded etc. etc.
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>>168036803
>All buybacks are 97 jita buy percent
My corp only pays me 70% Jita buy for my ore. 95% is amazing, cherish what you have, senpai
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>>168036803
My corp had a person just like you
every buyback was 95% except two 97%s
the biggest one lowered itself to 95% because too many contracts
some faggot started to complain about it in fleet chat but got btfo by generally everyone
I wonder if that same faggot now turned to some anonymous image board to complain?
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>they don't know
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>>168096571
> t. retard
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>>168096845
>you are only allowed to join one corp in your lifetime
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>>168097038
ísť do riti
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what guild should i join, /eog/?
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>>168098865
the one that leads you to suicide
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>>168098865
Moot's Last Jihad
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>>168097708
I bought shares in an Azbel we built here. I'm not going to pack up everything and lose my investments over a better buyback program.
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>>168098865
ask in /wowg/
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>shares
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>>168099202
I suppose they pay you out of the tax?

so nothing
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>>168100396
No, from corp member fees. My corp charges each member a weekly fee depending on the number of characters you have and what they do.

For miners it's 50 mil or one corp mining op, ratting is 25 mil + 10% corp tax and industry costs extra. If you want to build caps it's 250m Isk per week. It's a pretty good system, the more you do for the corp the higher discounts you get.
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>>168098865
Something in goons that isn't ascee or karma

>>168098610
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>been offline for almost a week
>don't want to log back on because I don't want to explain to my corpmates why I was gone
Social anxiety is suffering
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>>168101001
Time to find another corp.
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>>168103538
noone cares about you
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>>168103538
Fuck em. They'll get over it or kick you out.
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>anon, why are you putting your life first and eve second? We don't like that
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>>168105936
But anon, Eve is your life.
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>>168098865
Horde :^)
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>>168106274
>being a structure basher for PL
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>>168106787
>Get a fortizar kill
>99% isk positive
Works for me
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>>168106787
>be in horde
>never go on fleets
>rat all day
>100m per month for whoring on kills
:^)
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>99% isk positive
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How can anyone put up with autistic shit like "member fees" and that anon yesterday who was being fucking fleeced with his 5 PI alts?


Its a fucking video game, go shoot people. Have fun. If some inflated ego basement dweller has a go at you, tell the fat cunt to fuck off.
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>>168107008
Fuck off fat cunt.
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>horde
>99% isk postive
>100m/month
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>>168106881
Don't spend that 100mil all at once.
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>>168106881
I would rather stay in an NPC corp than join hord.
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>>168107283
>>168107442

100m for doing fuck all on top of his ratting you idiots
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>>168107725
Still wondering why 100 mil is noteworthy.
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>>168107725
Still wondering why you didn't kill yourself yet.
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>>168107863
>>168107283
>>168107442
100m is bare minimum, if you actively look for fights near your home system you can get up to 1.3b/month
on top of rattingg
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>>168108202
If an alpha can make enough to plex, then can you remind me why 100m per month was a single data point of this story worth pointing out.?
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>>168108670

Because its basically free isk. There's next to no effort involved whatsoever
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>>168108845
But it still adds up to not much. You could kind of fit a VNI. Sort of. That's not really even a free ship.
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>actively look for fights near your home system
Is this how you call blobbing with caracals these days? Because fucking everyone comes to horde space. You don't have to look for anything, lmao.
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>people actually complaining about free money
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>>168108870
Lul, did he solo holocausted some guy's entire mining bot op?
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>>168109516
I didn't see the post, did he post Rockmuncher's KB? Yeah, people say the niminem family makes a billion an hour
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>>168109378
Just bragging about an amount of money everyone gets for pretty much logging on a few times a week.
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>>168109516
He is still getting kills. He has destroyed over 100 barges in the past couple of hours.
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>>168109819
Why is that faggot still undocking with the barges then?
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>>168109861
It looks like someone in horde is running a load of bots that just reship when they get ganked.
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>>168109861
https://zkillboard.com/character/1438778914/
The bot is being retarded. Either that or he's quitting Eve and wants to get rid of all his retrievers.
Note that none of them are actually fitted.
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>>168109967
>Note that none of them are actually fitted.
mass insurance fraud, then.
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I don't like how half the caldari ships are modern age FUTURE (think moa) while the other half are literal cube BOXES (think cormorant).
Artistic cohesion CCP, it's a thing you cunts
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>>168110238

They are (slowly) righting the wrongs of the past.
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>just 2 more papsmears with All-Out before being allowed to apply to Oruze
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Is golem a good pve boat? I heard a lot of "proj much better, missiles can't kill small rats" and stuff like that.
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>you will never join oruze cruise
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>>168110854
yes for hisec and if you dare lowsec
nullsec, it's just a shitty carrier with less tank and less damage and less range and less everything but more price
>>
Is there good gold doing level 1 quests? I tried doing level 2 ones but I got fragged.
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>>168110238
>it's modern age future because the box has a few more angles
face it, all of them are the same shit
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>mfw t1 fit dread is better than ded/faction fit marauder at literally everything
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>>168111473
Nah, I like the new ones. Stop trying to force your opinions down my throat.
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>>168111827
i didn't say your taste was shit, i pointed out that the artistic cohesion you're whining about is there

if i wanted to tell you you're tasteless id point out that the cormorant looks a A LOT better than the moa with its retarded mosquito head
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>Doing Relic site in WH in my astero
>Saw some other probes on scan but they were T2's that fucked off
>churning through the site getting dick all from the cans
>on the last can drop my guard for a second and get pounced by a Stratios
Feelsbad.
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>>168111963
>in WH in my astero
There's your problem
>>
>not doing exploration in your carrier
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>>168112018
What's wrong with astero.
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>>168111963
How the fuck do you let a Stratios gank you at a site as an Astero, just warp off nigga
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>>168112426
He's a faggot that got ganked by Astero one time too many, don't listen to him. Although if you are flying an Astero you are a bully and should probably kill yourself.
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>>168112426
nothing, there's just no point in taking it into a WH when nullsec is superior for it in every way
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>>168110529
They were.
Until SKINS came along and CCP's art department stopped doing actual stuff and started selling overpriced cheap reskins
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>>168112526
Panic, tried to MWD for some reasomand was Scramed and webbed.
>>168112426
>>168112563
I just fly them because minmatar T2 is cancer, I don t have the dosh for T3's and they're generally a nice ship to fly. I don't run PVP fit myself.
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>don't have enough shares to run any of the sites in wh
>allowed to huff gas but I have to give it all to the corp
>fc says he has our APIs open so don't try to run off with it
wat do I do
>>
so i'm skilling into battleships for my first time as minmatar.

What ships are best among minmatar for running L4 missions?

I'm eyeballing a tempest fleet issue right now.
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>>168113074
join a non shit corp that doesn't have massive obnoxious self centered autistic retarded assholes in the leadership, of course :^)

No seriously, fuck right out of there, no one should tell you how to play your game and corps like yours are the worst
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>>168112858
>Panic, tried to MWD for some reason
kek, over time you'll get better tho

And don't listen to these stupid fucks talk shit about the Astero. You can use a mobile depot to switch between PVP and Explo fit, you can kill any T2 explo always, you can get your align time low as fuck, you can get tanky as shit (80hp/s+), and on top of that it looks sick as fuck.
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>>168113074
how do you faggots always find the worst possible corps
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>>168072490
>Funatix
Literally never heard of 'um but all highsec wardeccers lose their shit the moment you bring a kitey fleet that can defend the objective from their brawfaggotry. Get 10 dudes in Tornadoes and a ceptor or two and it's unlikely they'll be able to kill the POS.
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>>168079291
>>168083614
That's because they use the old rat framework instead of the new NPC shit they've done with eg. the mining fleets and drifters.
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>>168113607
y tho
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>>168113607
What
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>>168051713
>celestis
No skin can save that turd boat
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>>168112678
Oh okay, it's just i just bought it to explore nulls...having shitty fit is one thing but if it was a bad hull then it would be a complete disaster.
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>>168114180
Take your astero into nullsec and you'll be both safer and you'll earn isk a lot more easily because you'll need to scan down a lot less irrelevant sites for a frigate explorer there.
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Want to make comfy exploration but PVPfags are ruining my experience. What do you want from my Heron you stupid fucks?????
>>
>pirate faction
>better tech than any of the Empires can field
Sick lore.
>>
>pvpfags
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>>168114718
>implying they didnt just steal it from jove
>>
So I have a stupid question. Do players from corps you're at war with have some indicator next to their name in local?
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>>168117000
Yeah, you can configure it in overview settings.
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>>168079291
see me in wormhole scrub
t. sleepers
>>
>sleepers
>danger
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>>168114616
To make you mad and either git gud or quit like the faggot you are.
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>>168114616
Your killmail and your exploration loot.
>>
So many exploration fags these days, whats with the surge?
>>
>>168121742
It's relatively easy money without a significant investment in terms of isk or skills.
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>>168121742
Im gonna try and go in nulls right now and how i won't get killed like an idiot i am.
>>
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to Jita Tomorrow
>>
oneiros
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>>168124693
I don't get this meme
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>>168124925
It's got some layers. It's a shit ship, and it's a name of a god of sleep. Generally someone says it when /eog/ is on page 10, saving it from eternal sleep. Also, twoiros.
>>
>>168124925
Guardian
>>
NOTHING WRONG WITH MEiros
>>
You'll never be this tryhard
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17cHnSXnbSpwQyG6F_NVPZEL5b-ZB82tkEaxy2PTyhSw/edit
>>
>reddit posts
>>
>google docs is reddit

>>168125616
Penalties:
Rules are nowhere without penalties to enforce them.

Online, not on comms 100 million isk
Failing killmail quota 500 million isk
In active members in corp 100 million isk per character
Members not skilled for doctrine 500 million isk per member
Violation market rules 1 billion isk
Violation production rules 1 billion isk
Farming during CTA 1 billion isk
Refusing to pay tax and fines revoke alliance status
Losing a capital in a site: send a picture, holding a sign that says: I am very very sorry that I allowed [insert name of the lucky mofo that caught you] to catch me with my pants down. It will never happen again. apologizing to your alliance members or pay 1 bill isk


lmao what is this
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>>168125826
>i have no idea what i'm talking about or am samefag
>>
>anything I don't like is reddit
>if two people disagree with me, its a samefag
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>Online, not on comms 100 million isk
>>
>The vision:

>We are living in null sec. Our space has a lot of resources to be self sufficient. Resources in Planet Interaction, Moon mining, Ice and Rock mining, Ratting bounties/loot and salvage, Data sites etc.

>Imperial Divine is gonna exploit that to the fullest extent, and will have a thriving local economy with it’s own great goal to make: you richer


>m-muh local economy
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5tkgv8/i_have_seen_some_really_dumb_alliance_directives/
>7 hours ago
>not reddit
mhm
>>
>reddit is the only source of information on the internet
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>>168126759
Don't tell me someone in your alliance linked it. Why lie man, half of /eog/ is in TEST anyways. I get it hating le leddit is cool and all, but cmon.
i'm not in test
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>half of /eog/ is in TEST anyways. I get it hating le leddit is cool and all, but cmon
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>>168127171
>>half of /eog/ is in TEST anyways.

can u guys come kill funatix for me?
>>
>2017
>sitting on 4chan and unironically hating reddit
2007 called, it wants it's bullshit back.
>>
>not just making a solo corp and playing with yourself forever
>>
>b-but reddit has le upvotes :(
redditfags should be banned from here just like sapporo was from vbros
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>>168129708
who
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>half of /eog/ is in TEST anyways. I get it hating le leddit is cool and all, but cmon
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>still no guristas carrier
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>>168107008
Member fees keep awoxers and PL/HK alts out and ensure my corp always has enough Isk to pay for SRP and rent. I don't really see the problem, I mined 4b Isk worth or ore last month and didn't even have to pay because I donated some.
>>
650mm prototype siege cannon
>>
heavy modulated energy beam i
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>>168125826
>some people actually fall for this >>>comfy alliance bullshit
lmfao
>>
What pirate fagtion is nicest to run? There are arc for guri and angels, but they are at war...
>>
>unironically giving a shit about standings
>>
>>168129534
yea, 2017 4chan is basically reddit 2.0
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>>168122425
Warnings on /eog/ have a 0% chance of predictiong anything of note. Unless you're corp is planning on ganking 40+ ships themselves, your warnings are groundless.
>>
Best minmatar battleship to run L4s?

Im eyeballing a tempest fleet issue because its sick looking, and looks like a lot of fun but I hear its really horrible, just need to confirm that.
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>>168138382
Probably the Typhoon or Maelstrom.
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>>168138382
>Best minmatar battleship to run L4s

machariel
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>>168139132
Dont have the isk or skilling for that friendo.
I've only started in december of 16' and im not even able to fit t2 mods or have maxed core fitting skills.

I'm looking for a safe option to run L4s with what I have.
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>>168139574
Who are you in game. I'll donate a maelstrom to you.
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>>168140163
character name? Naliranga.

I'm not skilled for missiles though. :O
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>>168139574
Mach is not THAT much more expensive than standad BS but whatever.

Maestorm as starter ship then move to Machariel for blitz or Vargur for fullclear and "i can finally can pilot maradeur" feeling.

>or have maxed core fitting skills.
At least train every gunnery sub skill to 3.
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>>168140326
>maelstrom
>missiles
pick one
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>>168140326
Mael uses projectiles, and has a shield boost bonus.
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>>168140326
>I'm not skilled for missiles though.
That's ok because you might think mael is missile boat but it's actually a gunboat.
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>>168140163
wait typhoon is the missile bs, derp. Need more coffee.

>>168140406
I really want to fly marauders but I hear their not very good for pvp which depresses me because the entrenching mechanic sounds like a lot of fun.
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>>168140326
check your contracts
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>tfw the unironic didn't want that space anyway
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>>168140717
>I really want to fly marauders but I hear their not very good for pvp which depresses me because the entrenching mechanic sounds like a lot of fun.

Marauders are PvP beasts when used properly. The problem is that if you use them in lowsec or nullsec you'll just get a carrier dropped on you.
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>>168138382
tempest fleet issue does less dps than tempest. the only purpose of this ship is the increased hp from being a faction ship, which isn't useful in missions because they're all about having very weak active tanks
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>>168141219
Don't suppose you've got a Vargur fit? I was using one as a ratting ship in my wormhole but I've found the damage really lacking due to falloff so I figured I'd refit it for PvP.
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>marauder
>pvp
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>>168141736
Not him but since you mentioned it i will post my Vargur, it's shitty but i can't fly it right now anyways.

[Vargur, *Simulated Vargur]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Microwarpdrive I
Tracking Computer II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Bastion Module I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Gecko x1
Salvage Drone I x5

Phased Plasma L x12000
EMP L x12000
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1
Fusion L x12480

Also will probably use t2 ammo when i remember which one is good and which one is bad. I thought about 2 invuls but maybe shield amp is better.
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>T2 battleship
>frigate shield booster
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>We want Evangelion audience
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>>168143846
it runs for much longer and gives much more effective hp...it's even kinda stable with tractors off...
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The o7 show starts in ~10 minutes.
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>>168133723
thank fucking god, imagine those +500% hp and damage op fighters

REMOVE GILA FROM THE PREMISES
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>>168143639
>fucking Vargur
>medium shield booster
>Salvagers and tractor beams
>MWD on a fucking Maruder

biomass yourself fucking carebear
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>>167943904
I've done some research and I've decided I want to play, probably sub. Should I still use the referral link in the OP? I'd really appreciate that plex.
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>>168143846
>>168145094
You retards do realize that undersized shield boosters are perfectly fine for missions because most of the time even that is overtanking for missions?
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>more effective hp
>non-ancillary booster
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~THE WAR IN CATCH~ edition
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>>168145218
how am i supposed to haul loot if my cargo is batteries?

>>168145094
whats wrong with mwd? Am i supposed to slowboat from gate to gate?

>salvagers and tractor beams
isn't that the whole point of having a marauder? What is there to put in high anyways, fucking smartbombs?

I still don't get what's wrong with undersized booster, if rats hit me so hard i can only survive with large\xlarge booster does it fucking matter, if in 1-2 minutes i will be out of cap anyways.
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>>168145105
>Should I still use the referral link in the OP?

No, use this one.

http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=b30f2863-e9ac-4c23-9a32-fe73ddccf22c&action=buddy
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>>168145743
Don't use this one.
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>>168145743
Hmm, it doesn't even list your name lol.
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>>168145452
The war in catch is over though.

All that's left is SW being retarded and trying to ~~foreverwar~~ test in esotaria.
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>>168146405
here try it now.

http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=b30f2863-e9ac-4c23-9a32-fe73ddccf22c&action=buddy

I'm the guy that gave that other anon a maelstrom. I wont screw you out of the plex.
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>>168147739
Can you give me a Hyperion? :^)
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>>168147739
Newb anon here, can confirm I did receive a mael, do help this man out.
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>>168149197
He's not getting anything if he's giving away the plex.
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>>168147739
Okay bro, I used your account. I know its possible I won't see a thing, but I'm hopeful.
>>
So MOA caved and joined GotG.
And Brave is abandoning and renting from Legacy now.

Who do you think will be next on PL's chopping block ?
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New Cormorant bois.
I love it.
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>>168151086
what's this from, and why would they do a victory skin for shit like this
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>>168151086
>imicus and osprey exist
>update cormorant
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>>168151086
Old one looks better.
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dat square-ass chimera tho
fucking A
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>New Cormorant/Flycatcher model
>New Chimera model
>New Suns
>Scanning interface update
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>>168151086
>Symmetrical
STOP RUINING CALDARI SHIPS
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>>168151984
>>168151927
>New Chimera model

What
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>>168151086
>>168151984

When do these go live?
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>>168152167
They didn't say.
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>>168152546
>chimera is a fat rokh
Why tho.
Change the fucking Osprey CCP. Chimera is pretty as it is.
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>>168150858
TEST. Cracks between TEST and Co2 are already forming and their line members are too poor to defend the space they took.
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>>168152167
Dunno, but not next update for sure.

>>168152113
Gif related (all pics we got of 'er)
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>>168153316
the jacdaw ass is the worst and they are bringing it to chimera zzz
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I d-didn't want an update anyways. It's what inside that matters! Baka.
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>>168150493
>I know its possible I won't see a thing, but I'm hopeful.

well whenever you upgrade mail or convo me in game and we can get it sorted out
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>>168143846
here is food for thought

passive shield recharge is 2.5x the nominal value
if you could use a shield booster to help keep on 25% shield you get free booshing :^) where you would have needed to sacrifice something

t. mission running shield laser gnosis
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>>168154112
>25% shield
I thought peak was 33% just like cap?
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>>168154369
its srqt(x)-x

where x is nominal capacity/recharge time
for both cap and shield

>1/[2sqrt(x)]-1=0
>sqrt(x)=1/2
>x=1/4
I recalled correctly yush
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>>168155132
I forgot *10

[sqrt(x)-x]*10
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>>168151086

Everything slowly becomes symmetrical. It shall be glorious!!
>>
Starting from scratch as a miner in null, would it be best to train into ice mining?
>>
>>168143639
So what's wrong with it?
>>
Is PI worth it in hi-low sec? was it a big mistake leveling PI skills on my jita alt?
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>>168157198
My high sec trader character makes about 300m a month from it. 5 planets, one day cycles, hauling once a week.
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>>168157198
K space extraction planets are bad but factory planets are fine.
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>>168157198
low sec makes a lot more than high
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>>168157198
what this guy says >>168157456

you want small planets baron planets are normally best and you want as low a tax as possible preferably your corp owns them and you pay no tax
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>>168151086
OH SHIT FUCK ME IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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>>168151628

I refuse to believe this is anything but bait
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>>168159550
It's not but do what you have to do.
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>>168151628
>hurr old one is always better no matter how shit it actually is because I do not like change

Actually fuck off
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>>168157456
>>168158131
Well im certain i won't be in a 0 tax corp...And i guess i have 0 knowledge of how PI works so i have to leard how to import resources to it (and not get killed if doing it in low)

>>168157374
What do you mean, one day cycles? Just reinstall gathering thingies every day for maximum profit?
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>>168160295
It's better because it looked okay, nothing incredible but okay, but the new one looks like ass.
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>>168160398
Cant cure shit tastes
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>>168151086
I need to see it without the skin before I can form an opinion on me.
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>>168160382
>What do you mean, one day cycles? Just reinstall gathering thingies every day for maximum profit?
Yes. When you set up extractors you set them for a specific duration. The longer the duration the less resources per hour, on average, you get. In nullsec the planets are rich enough that you can set 3-day cycles but in high sec you pretty much have to reset them every day to get enough to keep your factories running constantly.
>>
What is the difference between a catch bubble and a drag bubble? Do they not just serve the exact same function? Is one better than the other?
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>>168160718
One catches them on the gate no matter which direction they come from
The other drags them some 100k off gate from and in 1 direction
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>>168160898
Oh shit I thought a drag bubble was behind the gate and a catch bubble was infront of it. So are drag bubbles the ones you would camp with a Sabre or something? What use do catch bubbles have then?
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>>168160718
Stop bubbles are the ones that stop you midway.
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>>168160382
http://alysii.com/eve/pi/

The first two eps of this might help you a little bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gTo9uJlyfQ&
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>>168160718
Stop bubbles are the ones that stop you midway. There's no real functional difference between them and drag bubbles, the distances involved are so large that it doesn't affect the angle of catching much at all. It just depends on where you want them to land.
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>>168161669
Okay I feel like I should know this, but how do you make a drag bubble? I know with stop bubbles you can just warp from gate to gate at 100km then place a bubble, but how do you do that behind the gate?
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>>168151086
Are the under spikes still there? The under spikes are important.
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>>168152045
Stop being a plebeian
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>>168152782
the osprey already got an update you stupid cunt
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>>168162015
Burn away from it so the gate bracket lines up with the bracket of the celestial you want to pull from and then drop the bubble at the distance you want to.
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>>168152045
Cormorant was always symmetrical you fucking retard
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>>168163056
Its sides/"""wings""" aren't
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>>168162494
>the osprey already got an update you stupid cunt
Pics?
If it's the one in game then it's ugly.
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>>168163056
Maybe you should do some research before you call someone a retard.
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When did the "Osprey is ugly" meme start? No one ever called it out as being ugly a few years ago.
It's not ugly
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>>168163720
When symmetryfags arrived with their shit symmetry tastes.
Osprey is not ugly.
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Asymmetry is heresy.
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>muh space aerodynamics
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>>168166356
>I'm a warp expert guys
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did they announce anything good on this o7 show
>>
Newfag to Eve here, is race important?

I want to go with either Caldari or Amarr.
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>>168167353
it's only important for shitposting
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>>168167505
Will I get bullied for going with Caldari?
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>>168167636
Caldari works for beginners.
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>>168167636
lots of people might think you're an anime nazi and symmetryfaggot I guess
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>>168167636
Caldari is the best race.
Gallente is the best for alphas tho. But if you go Gallente you are a faggot frog fucker.
Alpha race tier
Gallente>>Caldari>>Minmatar>Amar
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this guy is a faggot >>168167962 ignore him
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>>168167636
If you don't choose minmatar then you're a racist
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>>168168163
Minimatar seems edgy as fuck.
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>tfw no dominant French/Chinese gallente gf
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How does the bridge people manage to look to the left when the hull is blocking sight?
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>>168167962
>cuckdari
>best at anything except a shittiest ship skin competition
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>>168169912
camera
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>>168169912
Why is the bridge even on the side where it can get easily shot off?
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>>168169912
what bridge?

and do you think they navigate with binoculars or something
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>>168170128
That's the point, you exile the officers you don't like onto that ship
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>>168170235
the cabin attached with a piece of alloy glued to the rest of the ship.
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>>168170995
but you don't know what that is
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>>168151984
>scanning interface
What are they doing to it?
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C4s are fucking terrible, CCP should just delete them all
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>>168171584
lowsec too

delet lowsec
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>>168171709
no just C4s
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>>168171584
C4s are good for PvP, but only if you like babytier armor brawls on top of a hole.
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>>168171690
What skills are those?
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>>168171779
>muh kiting

all wh pvp is trash and doesn't exist
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>>168171832
Amarr ships use lasers which use lots of cap and their Tech 2 ammo is really good. Alphas can't use Tech2 ammo and can't max out the capacitor skills.
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/59993098/
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>>168172063
mostly only bads use pulse lasers now m8, t2 ammo for long range guns is unnecessary
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>>168171584
What's wrong with them? Genuinely curious as the C4 corp I'm currently in is my first experience with wormholes. What am I missing out on in other holes other than capitals in 5/6?
>>
Is anyone here a member of any TEST corps other than Dreddit? Which one and what is it like?
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>>168172276
there's nothing good in them and they don't go anywhere good, so it bothers me when I find them
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>>168171416
QoL changes only.
Probe/d-scan window becomes dockable in system map window;
Icons for each kind of site (after reaching 25% signal strength);
Difficulty rating for each site (after reaching 25% signal strength);
Probe stats (strength, deviation, scan time) visible in probe scanner menu (instead of show info of probes inside launchers);
Easy plane switching (hotkeys + buttons);
Improvements to arrows/probe spheres;
Scanning progress bars visible on system map;
D-scan cone gets a green colour to be more easier distinguishable from probe spheres;
more visual and interface de-cluttering;
etc, etc.

All good stuff really, wish they did this sooner.
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>>168172276
You'll be living off the statics so dont worry about it.
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>>168172364
DRONV is the best corp in TEST
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there is at least 1 sergaljerk member on r/dog
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how can I join Oruze? I have good skills for Tengu and Stratios
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>>168176958
CCP should really make these faster, they're garbage as a non-cap chain logi vs the scimitar
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>>168172254
>only bads use pulse lasers
what the fuck does this even mean?
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>>168178007
beams got huge buffs
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>>168177743
they should just fix cap transfers being broken af.
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>>168178615
But is there anything an Amarr alpha can fly that is actually good?
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>>168178615
So? They use fuck tons less capacitor, have superior tracking and ammo options. Tracking is a huge issue on beams, so is fitting. Pulse lasers use less cap, use less fitting its only fitting they do less damage.

Large pulses do more damage than tachyons anyway which is reverse of all the other trends.

>>168178674
that won't fix the oneiros from being slow and fucking useless
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>>168178890
Any of the ships that don't use lasers

the dragoon is good for drones, the arbitrator is also kinda

you know what, just biomass, amarr is shit make a caldari or gallente character
>>
They had to buff beams because you numbnuts don't get the advantages of infinite ammo and never ever needing to dock for it.
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>>168178928
no, you're terrible. beams are better 90% of the time

>Tracking is a huge issue

maybe if you're a total retard whose gameplay consists of mwd orbiting with scorch

>its only fitting they do less damage

short range guns are supposed to do more damage than long range guns. them doing less at the moment means ccp has majorly fucked up and you probably shouldn't use them
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>>168179515
>beams don't get the advantages of "unlimited ammo"
what

>>168179553
>beams are better 90% of the time
What the fuck is this number? Made up shit? I'll run my mallers with pulses because they're better for fitting

I'll fit pulses to my ONI's because they fit better and track better. Beams use too much fitting, use too much cap and have shit tracking for it to work there.

Omen? can't even fit heavy beams, pulses are better for it.

>short range weapons are supposed to do more damage
this isn't true for every weapon system at all.
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>>168179757
>>short range weapons are supposed to do more damage
>this isn't true for every weapon system at all.
It's true for literally every single weapons system in the game except for lasers because beams were "rebalanced" while pulses were not.
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>>168179553
>tracking doesn't matter because you're retarded
This is why no one can take you seriously. You just take things you don't like and call them retarded
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>>168179908
Its not true for small beams, its not true for medium beams, only true for large beams
XL torps are worse for damage than XL cruise missiles because torps can't apply for shit.

HAWS don't do more damage than other XL weapon systems despite being way shorter range than regular capital weapon systems.

Weapon systems are balanced around what role they fill, not damage exclusively
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>>168180482
>blasters and rails
>autos and arties
>rockets and light missiles
>HAMs and heavy missiles
>torps and cruises

>"oh but it's not true because of this one retarded Fozzie-balanced weapons system, and because torps have poor application, and because of these special undersized guns that exist alongside the standard short range/big damage and long range/lower damage dread weapons"

You're fucking retarded
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>>168181108
>these few follow the rule that means all of them should

Well those few I mentioned clearly don't follow the rule so they obviously shouldn't.

>fozzie balanced
actually Rise made them

check mate faggot
>>
Autocannons are pulses with "automatic" transmission, with pulse lasers you have to be shifting crystals for the desired range manually, its cumbersome.
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>>168182419
>autocannons
>transmission
autocannons IRL don't use transmissions/don't need transmissions
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>>168179976
it's hard to talk to people who are so bad that they should probably go back and do the tutorials again
>>
I think stat implants discourage content. CCP should remove stat bonus implants and just make skill training a little faster.
>>
How hard is it to catch a T3C with covert cloak and interdiction nullification?
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>>168183332
dirty gatecamp and hope he doesnt file a petition
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>>168183259
This was one of the things CCP mentioned at eve vegas they wanted to look into again

hopefully they announce some stuff at fanfest

>>168183247
You're fucking retarded, low tracking means you have an even harder time hitting frigs, you have, you apply less damage because you hit less consistently.

Beams on a ONI can't even target out to the ranges beams can shit the heavy pulses work way better with scortch
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>>168183259
You can swap from your training clone into a PVP clone at a citadel, senpai.

CCP really needs to give us more remaps though, at least 3 per year!
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>>168184440
I'd be okay with 2/year.
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>get sentient spawn
>for some reason think it's a carrier spawn
>accidentally troll guy in super to warp to my site
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>>168184440
yea I can jump but I know i'd be more eager to go out if I knew I wouldn't have to delay my training.
>>
>>168153316
What's sauce?
>>
Fucking hell why does AWU take so long to train? I know 20-25 days isn't forever but it's a god damn fitting skill. Why the fuck does a skill that is basically mandatory take so long?
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>>168185658
>200 days for a carrier with t2 fighters to take out those infested carriers myself
skill injector crash where are you
>>
>>168186994
I don't want one to spawn since my T2 templars aren't shipped yet
>>
is there a way to get fighters to orbit the next target while the gun ability cycles?
I've lost 4 fighters while they just sit there waiting for the guns to cycle
>>
>>168187329
you have them selected, then you press your keybind orbit key (W)? onto their next target, preferably at their default orbit range, which I think it's 7300m or something like that.
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>>168187964
w is for your own ship
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>>168188215
.... if you have them selected, and your carrier unselected, you can move them around and give them commands, just try it.
>>
>>168174556
>t. sergaljerk recruiter
>>
I have to admit to not giving a single shit about ship skins.
>>
On my afk rattlesnake, should I use auto targeting heavy or cruise missiles while my Gecko kills things?
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>>168191237
Defender missiles
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>>168186919
It's not really mandatory, buy 1% fitting hardwirings. I wouldn't train AWU5 it the first 1-2 years unless you have a specific setup in mind.
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>tfw always been a Caldari missile user with skills pretty much maxed out
>want to fly a Paladin
>35 days to get in, and another 60 to max out.

Fug.
>>
>>168191535
I guess that's true. Plus it really isn't required for anything aside from marauders and dreads, neither of which I want on my main.
>>
anyone have a pdf/mobi download of Empires of Eve?
>>
>>168194109
Google does.
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>join nullsec alliance
>try to rat in a VNI
>pocket has a gazillion people hogging anoms
>pretty sure half of them multibox like 10 accounts
>there's always MTU drama or some guy trying to take your anom

I'm thinking about starting a second account so I can make Isk in empire so I don't have to deal with these autists. Are these 200mil Isk/h numbers for burner missions realistic? Should I go with the LVL4 skill plan or train into an incursion boat? Does logi get you into more fleets than flying DPS? And is training for a Machariel a bad idea if I want to run incursions? Do people prefer Nightmares and Vindicators?
>>
>>168194942
if you want to make isk in empire you either station trade or run incursions
>>
>>168194942
If you want to give null ratting another shot, I'd recommend trying out a different system with less people. I'm almost positive there is a system you could go to that would work well.

As for incursions, they are an excellent way to make isk if you don't mind grinding. As for which ship to train into, it really doesn't matter all that much. Some days vindicators are in high demand, others it's logi, sometimes it's snipers. I wouldn't really recommend any of them specifically. However, you are right on the Mach, I wouldn't go that direction unless you already have skills into large projectiles.
>>
capital memetic algorithm bank
>>
>t3 destroyers have bonus to scan launchers
why
>>
>>168194942
Just flip contracts
>>
>>168199002
so you can scan shit?
is this really an issue
>>
>>168199126
Not an issue. I'm just stumped as to why you'd be scanning shit in a t3 destroyer.
>>
>>168199186
because wormholes exist?
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>>168199016
t. guy trying to offload his Moros in Mai on unsuspecting newbies
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>>168199186
wormhole pve
>>
>>168199186
pve/pvp
>>
>>168199264
>>168199278
>wormholes
Honestly forgot those existed
>>
>>168199272
Anything is worth buying if the price is right.
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>>168199186
CCP wants them to have versatility just like T3Cs.
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-third-quarantine-zone-established-as-genolution-seals-off-station-decks-in-aridia/

>EFU - A statement from Genolution has confirmed that the corporation has sealed off a number of decks on board its biotech production facility in orbit of the first moon of Efu V, citing an "as yet unidentified pathogen" as the cause for a significant security lockdown.

N-Nani?
>>
>aridia
literally who the fuck cares
>>
>>168199860
space zombies?
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>tfw skins are worthless to use in potato mode
>>
>>168201389
>playing the game in potato mode
My shit laptop can handle the second-lowest graphics setting, even though I was sure it couldn't. Huge improvement in graphical quality. Try it out.
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>>168201920
It's not that my computer is shit.
I get into large fleet engagements so often that I couldn't be bothered to switch quality back and forth.
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>The Caldari were allies and Lai Dai was known to be among the most pro-Amarr of the megacorps
Fucking amarrboos
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>>168203818
Can ya blame 'em? Dem ship designs and lasers, brah.
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So now we've mentioned the cormorant, what's the difference between it and the catalyst? I'm genuinely curious as to why my corp uses the corm as their sniper destroyer and the catalyst as the dps chainsaw when they have the same bonuses
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https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/sine-wave-alpha/
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>tfw you get bullied by a botter with 36 vexors
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>>168204524
Mid slots
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>>168183847
>ONI

meme ship kys

yes, pulse lasers have higher tracking. that doesn't mean beams have "tracking problems". you're clearly just a muh scorch crutch shitter who flies trashy meme fits
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>>168200350
>>168200465
>>168200578
are ccp really handing out this skin for these shit ships, or did you just apply it with that guy's tool?
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Someone explain the drake meme to me please
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>>168204524
the cormorant has double 50% optimal bonuses, the catalyst only has 50% optimal 50% falloff, which is about half as good. catalyst not being a caldari turd is relatively fast and agile and has more damage, and it can make use of ccp's retarded meme tanking and get some kind of buffer for only 1 powergrid. if the cormorant wants that kind of tank it needs to come up with like 30 grid for an extender, plus it doesn't move as well and does less damage
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>>168204802
tha fuck is he doing with that many
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>>168205386
all you need to know is anyone who memes about drakes or for no reason likes or dislikes them more than any other battlecruiser beyond their actual stats is a faggot

it used to be an extremely popular ship for lots of pvp, and people would use them for just about everything. hence the "le can I le bring my le drake? XD" meme, of someone asking if they can bring a drake to a non-drake op, and people probably getting mad in response or something. the ship has since been memed out by ccp now that medium long range turrets got a gigantic dps buff and ruined the game, and heavy missiles got a slight nerf, and also ccp fucked up the drake's bonuses by making it super kin locked at +50%, which is pretty unreasonable desu

so if you happen to witness any exchanges like some guy saying "bring back drakes", and then another guy agreeing or disagreeing with him, you just need to know that they're both fags
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>>167945086
>go ratting
>scoop drones
>still get the returning bug
Fuck
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>>168205629
ratting
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>try to explore in c1-3 worm holes
>cosmic sig...relic site
>Yes!
>you've been visited by sleeping sleeper of "this is not a fucking relic site", good things will come to you but only if you press cloack immideatly as you leave warp and read the site description next time.
How do i kill those sites, they are annoying. I'd go to nulls but im afraid of doing that through WH (or maybe i can't be bothered with scanning shitloads of WH) and low>null gate appears to be camped 23\7
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>>168206968
Just look for more obscure wormholes. You're likely just going along a path someone else cleared. Go into a WH and go deep into its chain.
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>>168206968
>I'd go to nulls but im afraid of doing that through WH (or maybe i can't be bothered with scanning shitloads of WH) and low>null gate appears to be camped 23\7

Afraid of going through a random WH into null? Fucking why. And if you are too lazy to scan down wormholes to find a Null exit, then why are you in wormholes doing exploration? You have to scan down 5x the amount of random bullshit in WHs than you do in Null bro.
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>>168206968
Most of null is empty, just go. What do you have to lose, a t1 frigate?
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>exploring
>find a null exit
>oh shit yes finally I've been stuck in sleeper hell
>time for that dank loot
>drone space
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So when should I use faction heavy missiles over t2?
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>>168207218
I decided to be a cool guy and buy astero...i mean it's still relatively cheap, like 100m total or something? But i have imps installed...

>>168207160
I thought i explore WH for a bit since it was here and the gate was camped hard (i didn't check but there was like 10 ship\hour and 7pilots\30min), but i guess i have to jump holes if i want to get into hulls.

>>168207634
Don't all faction missiles have lower explosion radius and t2 have bigger radius? Maybe against frigs you should, but im not sure if it matters for heavies.
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>>168207936
If you haven't trained cloaking 4 for a covert ops cloak yet, do so.
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>>168207634
read the description. you use t2 against small things at close range or large things, you use faction the rest of the time
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>t2 heavy missile against small targets
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>>168183259
Stat implants are fine, but I'd be fine if we got +1 to all attributes "free" and +2 turn into +1, +5 into +4 etc.
I mean honestly - who the fuck uses +1s?

But the training change that I'd advocate first of all would be killing attributes and remaps altogether.
Remapping for a "specialization" is a concept that's only found beneficial on alts, so it kinda gives a tiny advantage to multi-account owners while otherwise being a cumbersome shit system that's overdesigned.
That, and it constantly gives off the impression that you're "missing out".

I haven't found the perfect replacement for attributes yet, but I'm confident CCP can do it right when they apply themselves.

>>168206018
>Published on Tuesday, February 14th, 2017
It's not released yet. Tomorrow. Assuming smooth deployment.
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>>168183259
I remember like 3 years ago they said "Stat implant are very bad, they force you to choose between money or leveling speed, we want to stop this"
So yea, never happening.
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>>168209341
>I haven't found the perfect replacement for attributes yet
Just remove attribut implants and give everyone 30-35 stats constant. They did this already with learning skills, what stops them doing this again?
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>>168209787
>what stops them doing this again?
Consequences on skill injector/extractor market? People getting to skill too fast? I dunno.

Considering all the skill number creep we've experienced over the years it doesn't threaten "endgame skill training" that much.
Tbh it's probably the best move, but I'd rather they explore some options.

I was thinking removing attributes but instead of making them so that it's as if it were always on best remap, make it slightly less and give people something like a remap:
You pick which category of skills you want to focus, and get a bonus +x% towards learning that. Let's say it's changeable every 2 months and you can pick no category for a general +less% bonus to all.

This way we get rid of attributes while "specializing" and something like remaps still stays.
And the numbers can be fine-tuned so that the overall pace of character training stays the same as it currently is, with attribute system completely and fully removed out of the game.

It's either that or what you're saying.

In both cases stat implants would just boost overall training speed (+1/+2/+3/+4/+5 become +0.2/+0.4/+0.6/+0.8/+1).
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>>168210446
>You pick which category of skills you want to focus, and get a bonus +x% towards learning that. Let's say it's changeable every 2 months and you can pick no category for a general +less% bonus to all.

why have this at all though, I don't think incentives for long autism plans where you can't undock much are a good idea
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>>168210446
so instead of being locked into 1-2 categories (with rewamp) you'll just be locked into 1 category?
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Just delete stats. Nobody gives a fuck when injectors exist.
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>>168205414
Thanks.
Why does the catalyst do more damage though? Is it slot layout?
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>>168211019
it has 8 guns, the cormorant has 7
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How do i fix standing with empire faction without losing standing to other empire faction? I feel like i fucked up and shot a bunch of gallente and i don't want to be bad with them...doing storylines will fuck up reputation with opposing faction, right?
Also i suppose it's possible to both run missions for 1-2 pirate factions and still be able to enter empire without a problem in 1-2 factions? It will lock me out of one epic arc right(they are repeatable right?) So if i run angels then Amarr and Caldari won't care?

I kinda fucking like looting tags, but i don't want to ruin all the reputation i have on my "main" and looting wrecks in nulls feels bad, so my devious plan was to run missions in nulls for pirates (i mean , there is no one but pirates there right?) and then go to empire to do some anti-faction missions to loot tags as a madman.
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>>168211696
why do you give a shit about standings
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>>168211872
I don't know, why shouldn't i give a shit about them? It says "low standing will lock you out of missions and you will be attacked on gates" but i don't know how much it matters. Can i still travel in empire without a problem (if not without autopilot i guess)? What will i lose if i start shooting matars?
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>>168212213
you can travel through space, but rats will spawn and try to kill you if you hang around. that's if it gets low enough
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Is there a market website that can list ALL buy/sell orders for every item that includes the word I type in the same list?
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>>168212279
Hm...i guess i can just forget about them? I wont' be denied entry to any station, since my corp standing will be 0?

And i just realised that i was living in caldari\amarr space and running SOE and ruining my reputation with them...while having shitty rep with gallente...hehe. Now im even more not sure if i should keep running soe or switch to some amarr corp.
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>>168213039
I guess in the end i kinda like gallente so i don't want to be enemies with them but also don't want to lose jita...
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>>168210674
>>168210868
It's in case CCP values remaps and slower skill training over better design.
Which is very likely the reason why they are so reluctant to remove attributes in the first place.

That's why my suggestion aims to both eliminate cancer attributes AND provide CCP with the control of SP gain rate that they want so dearly.

Sure, I'd much prefer to attributes be done once and for all too, but the skillpoint gain creep may be too much for CCP to give it a green light.
You know how they are.

tl;dr: my idea is a bargain, not the ideal
>>
Moros
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>>168214924
Why not make alpha clones have training speeds equivalent to having 17 stats to all attributes, then halved, while omega ones have speeds that is equivalent to 21 base stats, plus +7 implants to all stats, plus max strength cerebral booster?
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>>168216915
"Your skills can train while you're sleeping bro" - that's basically a reason for whole fucking mechanic exists.
it's that you can't train them any other way is what no one tell you
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how come npc caps have such good application?
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>Spend all day jumping wormholes, scrounging together exploration ISK.
>Jump into null for 5 minutes to find a new hole after hitting a dead end.
>Someone in a ship 10 times the cost of yours kills you before you can even warp off.
>Lose it all.
I can't decide who is wasting more of their life. The faggot blowing up a T1 frig that's passing through, or me.
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>>168217794
Because ccp can't balance for shit. Like holy fuck normal dreads can't track frigates at all but the serpentis dread can neut, web and hit a fucking afterburner frigate from 70km

Its in the truest sense of the phrase artificially difficult
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>>168219798
Can it hit you if you orbit it at 500?
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>>168205216
>that doesn't mean beams have "tracking problems"
Yea they fucking do they apply shit damage when you're kiting in a super fast cruiser like an omen navy issue. Go ahead try to haze frigs with fucking beams unless you're flying directly towards, away or perfectly parallel you're going to miss so much because the tracking is so low
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>>168220051
Yes, they can hit you at all ranges it's fucking retarded

>>168205216
Also those "trashy meme fits" out perform your retarded heavy beam suggestion, you have to gimp the ship so bad because fitting heavy beams is too hard
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>>168219798
why does the afterburner matter at 70km
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>>168220242
Afterburners don't have a sig penalty but dreads and carriers, supercarriers and titans can still track you
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>>168220242
It doesnt matter the range they'll track you no matter what it's retarded
>>
initiated compact warp scrambler
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>>168222997
Yea what's wrong with this?
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Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
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Okay i might just decided to betray caldari and go back to gallente, maybe even switch to blaster boat, what would be my consequences? I guess i will have to transfer all loot to Caldari-friendly trader alt...and buy everything with him too...

I mean, i understand that i still can go to jita myself (even though i will have to be fast) but double taxes will make it useless, and caldari space feels to be the most populer or is this just me? People say "just ignore missions that send you against empire" but i somehow still managed to drop standing, i guess doing storylines and forgetting to skip several times...but i guess going -10 is no biggie, right? (untill they drop a patch where it matters a lot but you still can't raise it back easily)
I can even run missions in enemy space without any problems unless i afk at gate\station entrance, right?
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>>168223612
Phased navigation photon what the fuck were they thinking array.
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Gate camps are cancer.
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>>168225503
Gate bubbles are cancer
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first week of eve has been pretty tough so far
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>>168225591
pvp is cancer
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>>168225629
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>>168225886
>le reddit cancer meme

What's high school like?
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>>168223867
Please just advise on this one, i suppose i will get to -10 with factions anyways if i do missions for other faction..unless i ignore storylines i guess? Should i stay in cardari or move to gallente?
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>>168223867
Are you in FW or something? Run missions for both empires, duh.

You are dumb.
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>>168226710
Well, no but how am i supposed to run missions for both warring empires? I though my standing will drop and i can't run anything higher than lvl1 and police will follow me at every gate.
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>>168226484
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction_Standings#Overall_recommendations

Decline missions that have you shoot other empires and either ignore storylines or run missions for multiple factions to balance the effect of storylines.

Or just don't run missions. Or ignore faction standings and hope that they remove the entire system within the 5 years.
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>>168226980
Okay anon. How much did you fuck your standings already? You have to get every single one mission against another faction and kill all their ships in that mission to fuck your standings. And there is diplomacy skill you can train. I don't know how is this a problem for someone new. Just post your standings. You have to be at -2 to get only lvl 1 missions and you have to be -5 to be KOS in the empire. Don't ignore storylines. Just do a couple of missions on the other side if it's approaching -2. Honestly I never had this problem.
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>>168226484
and yeah if you are really so scared just don't do missions and do something else.
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>>168227407
I guess i ran a bunch of storylines and anti-faction missions before i realised what's happening. That's strange because i started as gallente so i should have done gallente and somehow i ended up fighting them.

I have amarr 0.75; caldari 0.19; mintamar -2.71; gallente -3.77; and pirates are fucked completely. Those are pure standings(without skills).

So i guess i can do i sister arc for gals and do their thing, i can just do (lets just say) 1 storyline for all 4 factions and my standings will remain the same for all?
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>>168228057
jesus christ.
well gl salvaging that shit. follow the eve uni link above and see what you can do. consider different money making activity
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>>168228574
well, other money making i know is exploration (feels so unreliable), ratting anomalies (can it be done without corp?) and ratting excalations from them...missions just feel good about having constant stream of something to do and receive.

I mean, if i manage to get it right all i need to do is not do storylinies and anti-faction missions to keep my standings on the same level, right?
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>>168219378
Highsec carebear is mandatory for 120 days while you train to IV and build stocks. Don't fall for the day one explo meme, you won't make shit and you won't survive shit.
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>>168228857
Sure. Don't forget declining storylines hurts standings too.
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Daily reminder that the moros is worse than the nag in every single way
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>>168230126
xdd
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>>168211696
L4 epic arcs give more standing than you lose
>I kinda fucking like looting tags
Don't or live with the consequences. There is no way to keep empire faction standings high if you're grinding anti-faction missions.

>>168226484
If you're not a retard it takes fucking YEARS of grinding missions to hit -5 with a faction. To get to -10 you would have to join FW.
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Gala today boys
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New >>168230562
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>>168229398
It doesn't.
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>>168230586
wow look it's "Fuck newbies haha i'm in PH and 12 btw haha" autist again
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