AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

hey can i post my garry mod map progress here i would really like to kown

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Friendly reminder to make sure you actually save your shit before closing your editing tools of choice,

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>>167931975
trying to get a new walk cycle working, i wish i was better at this :(
https://youtu.be/56EBYQUjlD0

>>167932086
Doesn't it ask you the dialog unsaved files

>>167932017
sure :)
all progress is welcome

>>167932140
Not if you save your project as a gif first, I exported my animation as a gif and then closed the editor without even thinking about it, so I neglected to save the actual project files

>>>/qa/1003133

keep /pol/ in /pol/

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Added a little tooltip to the containers so that people don't just recklessly mash "E" while faceplanting any vaguely container like object.

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¡Buenos dias, /agdg/!

Espero que logren hacer mucho progreso hoy.

>>167932528
>SU
And dropped. Too bad.

>>167932556
¡Gracias, igualmente!

>previous thread is back down to 724

d-do we go back there or what

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Trying to make a management game where you get random generated workers with stats that affect their work output. My question is should I spawn the worker as an array and store in an array, spawn as array and store in ds grid, or make a ds grid store in the master grid and delete the original grid?

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>>167932839

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I remembered this time.

>>167932774
>even when they do their job they still manage to fuck up
Mods, not even once.

>>167932839
array&array should do the trick

>>167932917
GM babbies need not bother answering.

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>>167932564
I am sorry that I brought on the inflammation of your sensory glands through my decisions amigo.

Does this suit your ocular needs more fittingly or should I just trash the entire project and kill myself?

Hey is the source engine still bannable here?

>>167933023
You forgot to make a game.

Is today an Australian holiday or what.

>>167933656
>>167933023
Looks like he's back.

do NOT post source here,

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Do you like my record player?

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>>167933979

GM devs, how do you handle input? I'm trying to make a co-op game and working out how to have multiple players with configurable keys and multiple input devices makes me want to die.

Repostan
Would an online game where you build AI mechs and make them fight against each other be fun?

>>167934670
Litcherally already been done

>>167934763
And? Is it fun?

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A game, made on source, where you defeat enemies by using physics dickery.

who is creaturedev / purity dev

is that someone from here?

>>167935052
A game, made on clauswitz, where you click on a png of a globe for several thousand hours

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Final Fantasy 13, but made on the Source engine.

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>>167934814
what the fuck do you think motherfucker?
do I look very fun to you?

why is this thread so shit

>>167935584
It seems people just come here to shitpost honestly. I've been scrolling through threads and seeing so many yesdevs posting progress and they get no replies.

>>167935584
Because every time someone posts anything, /agdg/ loses its mind shitposting about how they're going to call the cops or whatever.

>>167935052
>>167935419
Source isn't used for making games

>like a dev's game
>looking forward his/her progress posts
>get sad or feeling down when there's no posts for days, not to mention weeks
>get nervous when he/she's in the thread
>feel jealous when the dev's talking with other anons
>feel on the top of the world when the dev thanks your feedback
>what_is_this_feeling.jpeg
>suddenly the thought that you'll never hang out with said dev casually in a pub and have small talk becomes unbearable

I guess I'm fucked up.

>>167935759
I'd hang out with you, anon.

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Redpill me on mixels, rixels, dixels and other <meme>xels.

>>167935759
That's -g̶a̶y̶- cute as fuck, anon. I would hang out with you too. I feel jealous of that dev.

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>>167934497
Now with cute legs!

>>167935759
C-can you stalk me too please?

Does anyone need a modeler?

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What ever happened to this guy?

>>167935807
>>167936137
That would be nice, but I bet there's also countries if not seas between us, too.

>>167936606
I'm sorry, anon…

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> tfw still can't find a buddy to talk about gamedev
> someone that also uses unity
> that also likes to watch sci-fi shows from time to time
> that likes to talk about their progress, the ideas they want to implement. Post cute 2d stuff in-between, have a nice chat, motivate each other to improve in both gamedev and life

>>167937101
join the discord

>>167937152
The discord feels like a circlejerk. I'm not saying the people are bad there, a lot of them do amazing progress and there can be some good discussions there. But i've tried talking with some individually to become friends and it never went anywhere.

>>167937101
I don't watch sci-fi shows but I watch a lots of anime, is that okay?

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>>167937152
>discord
theyre probably the ones who keep coming to the thread to shitpost 2bh

>>167937063
Who knows, maybe some day one of us gets rich and can travel to different countries and hang out with other devs. Is exactly the kind of thing I would do if I had a lot of money.

>>167936684
I'd like a model I could fuck, if that's what you mean.

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>>167936684
Yes. It's getting difficult to find free placeholder assets.

>>167937756
Just be warned: I have practically zero experience in character modeling.

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>>167937357
I don't watch too much anime these days, but sure if you're interested

sern#5929

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starting shmup project
Boxes and room borders are a go!

Now to get some shooting going

>>167937793
I'd be happy with a stick figure, as long as it got a skeleton for animations and uv mapped for the face and the body.
I usually convert old mdl from half-life, but it's tedious.

>>167938017
a rare opportunity to work for sourcedev, jump on it kids

>>167937967
i will be watching intently

>>167938098
yes, everyone is your boogeyman

>>167932528
>That morrowind font

sexy desu

>>167907545
I'll consider Node.js for the API, then. Website serving I'll stick to PHP, though. Thanks!

>>167932528
you should instead add a really long and awkward animation of the player reaching out into thin air only to stumble a bit before realizing that there is nothing there. way more immersive than floating text

>>167937485
That's a nice thought anon. Until then, I'll just wait until this strange feeling of mine vanishes. It's not like I can do anything about it. I just hope the dev's well.

>>167932086
My image editor will save automatically whether you like it or not

>>167932272
>all those deleted posts
Apparently it worked. Thanks for taking your time to address the mods on this issue, you're a credit to this place.

Hopefully they rangebanned him, so he has no way to come back. (unless he was using proxies, in which case RIP)

Is the fireden archive dead again? I keep getting the "whoops" page.

>>167932272
Based jannies

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Shooting "works" but no HP system and the hit confirmation is just a quickie 4 frame circle expansion animation. The scoring is only a hit counter at the moment but it works as well! Will try to post a webm or gif next time if I can advance it a little.

>>167938235
I will try not to disappoint too much

>>167940381
It's probably the same thing that happened to archive.moe. Sourcepham's threats are being investigated, so they have to take the archives down to have a look.

>>167941117
addendum:
-She is a moth
-the ring in the middle of her sprite is her hitbox

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Should the player move around freely on this map, or just have an icon snap from location to location?

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>>167941461

>>167941461
Didn't you die?

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>>167941461
could this have a hidden meaning

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>>167941767
SHE
YIFF

>>167941456
Does it actually make a difference if I choose a spot, or a spot 10 pixels to the left of it?

If not, then just have predetermined locations to snap to.

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>>167941854
>>167941767

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>>167941854

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hey guys, any advice on not makiing my sprite look like hipster indie shit?

Does anyone know how far you can go with parodies? When I try to think of examples I think back to Conkers Bad Fur Day which had some pretty blatant parodies. If I had a RPG and the beginning had a train scene just like the first scene in FF7, would that be enough to get a lawsuit?

>>167942053
yes.
dont do sprites

>>167942160
Yup. You'd better get an LLC to protect yourself.

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Where do you get non-copyrighted sounds for your games?

Do you guys ever remix or remaster any of your old music?

I decided to remix an old song of mine today

original song: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/dark-kings-duel-original-shitty-midi-version
remaster: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/dark-kings-duel

Thoughts? Is the new one better?

>>167942053
Learn art
Use shading
Use more contrast

>>167942160
Look up fair use law, specifically the difference between parody and satire.

What you want to do sounds like parody, as long as you actually make it clear that it's a joke.
Don't just copy the opening of a game and claim it's a parody.

>>167941206
>tfw mothdev is ded

What is UNDENIABLY the best font for performance tracking ingame?
Calibri?

>>167942578
whatever fraps uses

>>167942567
mothdev probably wasn't even going to make game

>>167942439
start by reading the OP

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>>167942578
>Calibri
just cuz its the default doesnt make it good

>>167942715
No.

>>167942175
suck my cock bitch

>>167942030
no you can't fuck the bunny you degenerate

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>>167942521
i made a gun, how does this look?

>>167943791
Overall, good. Mag looks awful, not to scale and out of place though.

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>>167942578
Acknowledge, of course!

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>>167936218
N-now there are a lot of them... From different angles...

>>167944048
nice work

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>>167943791
>Stock bending downwards

This is a bad meme that needs to die. Real life gun stocks stopped down that after the Thompson debacle.

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>>167944104
?

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>>167944104
>Real life gun stocks stopped down that
uhhhhhh

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>>167944253

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Intersections.

Would people be offended if I did away with the whole nub interlocking holes thing?
Just having flat ends would save a lot of work, not to mention all those polygons.

>>167944104
that's like saying the longbow meme should stop because we have compound bows

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I'm gonna do it! I swear! I'm gonna do something! Hopefully it's game dev related!

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>>167944104
>stocks don't bend downwards

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>>167944104
delete your account

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I want this object to slowly move towards the target, then stop when it gets there. This code makes it go towards the target, but it always overshoots it and goes passed the target, even if the speed value is very low.
Wat do? I guess I could use a collision check to stop it once it reaches the target, but is there a better way?

>>167945000
>posts stock that does not bend downwards

What do you guys personally use for screen recording?

>>167945313
60 printscreens a second + movie maker

>>167945073
if(newX > target->Position()->X()) <-- alter > or < depending on positive or negative movement
>Keep current X-position or end X-movement

Same for Y

>>167945313
FRAPS

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>>167943993
Shortened the mag, it's kind of a parody gun, it's a double action semi-auto, with an ak esq stock, and a shotgun barrel.

>>167945313
i use OBS because it's reliable but it fucks up my colors

Do you think a woman ever visited /agdg/? Not a tranny

>>167945313
OBS but they updated it recently and now I can't find out how to change the settings so my local recordings don't look like dog shit.

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-classic-how-to-make-high-quality-local-recordings.16/

used to follow this guide but its outdated.

>>167945313
I made my own screen recording software.

>>167945528
letodev, but she got bullied for her big forehead.
sugardev, but she's a true tumblr female and thus it was inevitable that she leaves this place.

>>167945752
>sugardev, but she's a true tumblr female and thus it was inevitable that she leaves this place.

she ran out of money

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>>167944104
:I

>>167945561
OBS can use the shadowplay encoder now

>>167944791
It would even save you a lot of trouble, legally.
The way it looks one can't even make out the nubs when pieces are connected. Sounds like a strong point for removing them.

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>>167944104

>>167945528
Most definitely. I am convinced that there is one lurking the thread right now.

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>>167946071
>>167944791
For reference, this is it with flat edges plus a fake end nub on the last piece.

It's "noticeable", but yeah removing them is probably the thing to do.

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>>167944104
bro
BRO

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>>167943791
>>167945448
the stock is way too big and the patterning on it makes it look like a big blob instead of being flat like an actual rifle stock would be

also the rear of it is slanted wrong

also holy shit why is it so high res for pixel art, each pixel doesnt have to be friggin 128x128, here

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Wow, just when you think agdg can't get any more autistic, they start debating guns

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Made hit detection a thing by flashing the enemy sprite. Changed up the player hitbox from a ring into a dot for better visibility (I think). Added shot switching (red to blue) and using a slightly better font I had made last year for a different project that didn't get out of the prototype room either.

Is the hitbox more visible now or was the ring better?

>>167942567
I am sorry we lost him as well.

>>167946850
>he has never seen AGDG debate the color of water

>>167946850
it's not like you know what's autistic and what not if you unironically post frogs

>>167946978
>making a bullet hell
fuck you dude I'm already doing the same, I don't want to compete with someone
the flashing on the enemy kinda looks obnoxious, is it simply displaying/not displaying at a very fast rate ?
Haven't seen the ring version of the hitbox but dot probably works better.

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>s-surely this pixel platformer will strike it big and make me rich!!

>>167945797
An artist cannot run out of money.
Particularly tumblr or deviantart artists with lots of comissions.

>>167947401
yeah its not like theres an entire stereotype based on the starving artist or anything

>>167947151
It is displaying per hit as long as it is not already flashing. So probably every other I think? And we can have a friendly rivalry! It could probably do great for the both of us in terms of motivation! Progress is only going so fast right now because this is the prototyping phase. This is always the easy and most fun part of it.

Bullet hell is not guaranteed though. A shmup/STG can be as simple and straightforward as you want to make it really. Don't know the direction I want to go with it yet.

>>167947445
You imbecile.

An artist literally just has to start a Patreon to make money nowadays.

>>167947560
So why haven't you?

>>167947560
After amassing a sizeable amount of followers. Which takes a lot of time. And connections. And lots of work. And possibly lewd.

>>167947796
>And possibly lewd

unless your working on shit like fucking skullgirls or semi-popular VNs or indie games ala Shantae, it is most certainly, irrevocably going to be lewd

>>167947796
And if you're doing lewd you are breaking the ToS of the payment providers so there's nothing stopping them from shutting off your source of income at any time

>>167947528
>It is displaying per hit as long as it is not already flashing.
That's what I thought, personally I find it kinda annoying.
Do what you want though, I'm not stopping and I don't want someone to stop just because we're making the same kind of game.

>>167947971
>skullgirls or semi-popular VNs or indie games ala Shantae
all of which are lewd, just softcore lewd

>>167945561
I'm in the same boat
studio doesn't work like my old thing used to but i already uninstalled the old version

If an object has a position, a maximum velocity, and a negative acceleration (so it's always slowing), how do I get the coordinates of the point it will go to when its acceleration reaches 0?

>>167948632
Do you people not have basic physics class in school?

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Can you make better animations than this, /agdg/?

>>167942520
Nice improvement. The original sounds like a Doom remix, but the second has an original feel to it. What game, if I may ask? I'm a sucker for vidia OST, and this sounds something like I would have fun with.

>>167949173
>still shitposting and making fun of random things
You do realize that they don't give a flying fuck about a random anon like you making fun of them in an anonymous image board.

They're rich, while you're here doing stupid shit.

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>>167948632

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>>167949173
I certainly hope this is some fanmade shit and not actual AAA animation.

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>>167949548
https://youtu.be/fejAzWJ64Yo?t=85

>>167949173
I don't see what's wrong with this? They're talking, he walks over and points a gun at her chest, she easily disarms the guy and points it back, tensions rise?

>>167948632
travelled distance = (velocity^2) / (deacceleration*2)

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>>167949173
At least as good.
this is the first animation I ever made

>>167949730
See >>167949381

They're just shitposting.

>>167949730
That disarm bit is on par with that ylyl brazzers webm of "The Cook".

>>167948030

Exactly, but it's not "pornographic"

>>167949173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-cXdFMByM

yes.

>>167949797
>>167949381
Fuck off bioware shill go back to /v/

>>167949686
>>167949548
>>167949173

(you)s for everyone!

>>167949791
That's a pretty gay run, anon

>>167949173
this looks like sfm

the camerawork, the lighting, the materials

it just screams sfm

>>167949730
Movements are very shakey, that's what happens when you don't clean up mocap properly.

>>167945313
Kap because nothing else works.

>>167946665
It's scaled up so you can see, it's actually 86x22

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Better hurry anon, post something before you can't anymore!

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wrote a really weird song
I don't think it'll make it ingame but the initial melody is neat

https://clyp.it/ttzq2oq4

>>167941456
What's with the resolution?

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Is the thread dead?

Anyway, comfy progress!
Not much actual progress, but many small things
>NPCs now turn to face the player when talking
>made a (placeholder) particle system to show the wind direction and make the world feel more vivid
>made a (placeholder) particle system for the clouds, will look for better sprites since the default ones suck
>ìAnd lastly, since pretty much everyone said the control scheme I had was shit, I changed it. I'd like to try making it customizable but I don't know if I'll have time:
>mouse to move the camera on the X axis
>AD to steer the ship
>S to fold/unfold the sails
>W to use the claw
>E to talk
>Q for map (and eventually, pause menu)
Does this make sense? pls say yes

>>167953254
fuck off memeposter

>>167953254
Just flip a coin.

>>167945574
What did you use to make it?

>>167953283
the flag is blowing in the wrong direction

Where is the dev of Cooking with Tracy (which should have been called Jurassic Fork by the way, just saying)?

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>>167949324
The original track was for a game I was working on called Successor's Legacy. You can download it here: http://www.slimesalad.com/forum/viewgame.php?p=121526

I never finished it, but its demo won 3rd place out of 10 in a contest. http://superwalrusland.com/ohr/HeartoftheOHRContestResults2016.htm

I've been thinking of maybe finishing it with updated assets, so that's why I've been remastering some of the music. Thanks for the feedback!

>>167953418
Oh yeah, I already planned to fix that but I keep forgetting.

>>167953420
His life ended along with dino jam

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I've gotten started on the enemy AI system.

It's currently FAIRLY universal, though at the moment it relies on each individual enemy sub-class implementing its own animation responses, i.e. if the parent class calls "Play animation Detect Dixie" it's up to Little Skull to provide the logic that triggers the animation in question. This is helpful since I can pass "Play animation melee attack" and then the subclass can implement a more complex switching logic if it's meant to have a wider selection of melee attacks than usual, rather than just pulling up an animation reference from a table.

Basically, enemies wander to random locations around their spawn-home until they detect Dixie (either by seeing her or hearing her), at which point they react and start running toward her. If Dixie gets too far away, they ignore her and go back to wandering.

Also, not pictured, diving underwater now has its own animation that shoves Dixie downward, and Dixie can melee attack freely underwater.

What engine would you guys recommend for a 2d text-based spreadsheet simulator like Football manager?

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>>167953420
hi I'm alive, just working on guncat for the time being

>Jurassic Fork
I'm stealing that name and you can't stop me

hey is anyone else having problems with Unity3D game and editor graphics glitching?
I have windows 10 and an nvidia card but for some reason there is all kinds of pixel glitching, rainbow spots popping up, and also the editor crashing occasionally

anyone know why? do I need to change my graphics settings in nvidia control panel or something?

>>167953283
ur ship is sinking

>>167953283
do u use blender?

>>167953037
Well, fuck. My game will only be ready after 2020 so I hope they're speaking in terms of valve time.

>>167953283
Why not just make W unfold sails when held and fold it when released. Or W unfold, S fold. Seems like it makes more sense. Instead of talking and claw buttons, make a single button to interact with something.

>>167953037
>plans new system
I can't wait to finish my game so I can get fucked even more than what I initially thought.

>>167953041
keep it, I could see it work in a Wario Ware or Puzzle kind of game.

>>167953283
maybe V or Shift for the claw, I wouldn't stop hitting W thinking I'm going forwards.

>>167953580
>enemy goes back to his original position if you go too far
I'm trriggy

>>167953675
build your own, that kind of game doesn't require much grafix and mostly math instead

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>Valve is removing Steam Greenlight this spring. And replacing it with Steam Direct.
>Right now developers pay $100 and can submit as many games as they want to Steam Greenlight. Steam Direct, however, will have a more substantial fee and charge per title.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-10-valve-is-removing-steam-greenlight-this-spring

G-guys?

>>167953928
>enemy goes back to his original position if you go too far
>I'm trriggy
I don't get this reference

>>167953037
>Nintendo, classically known for being a monstrously difficult company to publish for, is making it easier for indies to make games for the Switch
>Valve, classically known for being unbelievably easy to publish for, is making it harder for indies to make games for Steam
Holy shit, what is happening with the world today?

>>167954196
>$5000
RIP 3rd world devs

>>167954196
>somewhere between $200 and $5000
time to kill myself

>>167954196
for better or for worse this might kill indie games

>>167954196
they're probably being overrun with really, really shitty titles, but I don't think that's the right solution

>>167954228
i dont like it

>>167954370
>3rd world devs
I'm in France and I could never whip out $5000 to put my game online, that's probably more than all I own.

>>167954196
Why are Valve such fucking dicks.
Every single thing they have done in the past 5 years has been to shift the work from them to the community, or just remove any responsibility from them.

They like to pretend they are a small studio and not a multi billion dollar company

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>>167954196
>tfw already on steam

>>167954196
>considering between $200 and $5,000 per game submission

I guess i'll stick to itch.io then

>>167953737
>>167953746
yes to both

>>167953895
Holding a button down to keep the sails unfolded seems uncomfy imo.
And about the talk/claw buttons, you're kind of right, but there might be a case where you're in range to talk with a character but also next to a treasure. I wouldn't want the player to not be able to do one or the other.

>>167953928
>maybe V or Shift for the claw, I wouldn't stop hitting W thinking I'm going forwards.
Well, the ship goes on its own so I don't think that will be a problem. I might be wrong though.

>>167954196
About fucking time really. Sucks for me that I probably can't have my game on steam but I'd rather have them remove like 70% of the shit that's on there right now.

>>167954196
This seems like it's a good thing in some ways.

At the most optimistic end of the spectrum, the cost of submitting your game goes from $100 to $200, which is negligible, and the whole voting process is completely eliminated, which is a pretty substantial improvement.

The pessimistic side is that the amount enters the four-figure range, but even then it's mostly just a way of discouraging devs from posting shovelware. If you can't recoup $3k on your game in sales, does it REALLY belong on Steam's store?

>>167953037
Good. If my fucking front page gets flooded with anymore fucking waifu sims I'm going to lose my shit.

They're fucking everywhere and not even remotely targetted to me as a user.

They're the most retarded game genre in history.

>>167954196
>charging the dev community more money to release their games
Ok, serious question: Valve isn't making video games, they're obviously not terribly interested in manual quality control, and their technical support leaves many things to be desired, so what the fuck do the people working at Valve actually fucking DO? Like christ, it's no fucking secret they're a multi-billion dollar company with shitloads of employees, so what the fuck are these employees actually getting paid to fucking do?

>>167954612
The change won't remove existing games. If anything this announcement will see a massive inundation of shovelware marketed as "Early Access" just to get a store page before the change takes place

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http://web.archive.org/web/20170210185108/http://steamed.kotaku.com/valve-kills-steam-greenlight-1792225494

>>167954749
brainstorming ideas on how to jew everyone
balancing csgo and dota2

>>167954749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKCd1iQt_jo

>>167954749
As far as i can tell they piss about with new tech until they get bored, like that weird portal 2 razor thing, literally nobody asked for that, nobody fucking wanted it.
I mean for fucks sake at this point valve should just sell their IP, they're not gonna fucking use it.

>>167954612
I don't understand this mentality, think of something like Walmart, it sells whatever it is you need but it also sells a lot of shit you don't care for, yet you can just buy whatever you need and ignore the rest. Why are you even bothered that the rest exist? Please explain it to me. People keep saying Steam is full of shit games and yet I never see them, because they're deeply buried in their system, you literally need to go out of your way to find them, I was never ever recommended a shit game on Steam (at least not Greenlight shovelware shit)

>>167954749
I've often wondered this

Maybe literally everyone in the company spends all day trying to invent a gimmick for HL3

>>167954805
Yeah I know. I just wish they'd do that. Some kind of cleaning. Like if your game sells less than X copies in Y weeks. It gets halted/removed.

>>167954883
Because your shit gets pushed off way quicker to make way for "I BOUGHT UNITY PECK MOM GIBE 15 DOLLAR? SIMULATOR MEMES"

>>167953675
>>167953928
>build your own

DO NOT DO THIS

>>167954837
>dat anime girl drawing in the background

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>>167954816
>>167954196
>black shell media and other indie rapists right now

>>167954883
Walmart doesn't sell toys full of cum

>>167955015
Why ? Literally all you have to do is display a bunch of still images and stats in menus.

>>167954519
If you ever intend to release a new game in Steam then that doesn't matter.

>"The idea is that you're paying a fee per app," said Giardino. "So there's more of a deterrent there."

>>167954613
4-figure fee would only keep in the ones with the highest budget in, effectively killing off indies who would go on greenlight to get something in for some bonus pocket money (so this includes at least half of /agdg/)
would this improve steam as a whole? absolutely
but along with shovelware developers who deserve to be shot off, some of the people who actually try with their games will take the bullet as well - there are alternatives like itch.io and shit, but this still massively reduces the potential audience they could've gotten
it might be great news for players, but for us this might be the beginning of return to the 00's where only the biggest and greatest bruisers had a chance of making a buck
in a way it's cool, but then you realize that you've forever missed the greenlight train and you're fucked

>>167954957
No, what it actually needs is better store management tools so that you can eliminate content categorically from ever appearing; in recommended lists, in tag searches, etc.

Right now all they do is let you customize your front page and certain recommendations lists, but the shovelware shows up when you search "action games" or whatever

>>167954603
It makes 0 sense let me spell it out, Z-E-R-O S-E-N-S-E to break the WASD movement control tradition. You're just going to confuse and anger the players with your uncomfy game. Might as well make W a quit game button, it'll be just as awful.

>>167955231
Kickstart your Steam Direct fee then.

oh, its like a lame chatroom

bye then

>>167955231
>bonus pocket money (so this includes at least half of /agdg/)
This is what makes me the angriest, because devs who make games as a hobby are now just told to fuck off if they want to have a large audience to market to, all because Valve doesn't understand the idea of actually monitoring their own fucking platform.

Worse still, many successful developers started out as hobbyist devs, so now you HAVE to go in with the sole intention of making money.

>>167954196
>>167954428
It will simply mean that either indies become more publisher oriented or that the majority indie releases go somewhere else. Steam isn't the only webstore on the PC even if it is the biggest.

Either way it's going to be a lot harder to be an indie in the future but on a positive side you will get more attention for being on Steam if this new system makes the amount of games that get release over there go down.

Assume they did 5k$. Developers would have to be confident enough on their game to make at least that on Steam for it to be worth it. That's not a problem to most actual indies that stay afloat with their games. It will also not be a real problem to publishers who actually release good games.

The biggest blow is dealt to 1MA indies, neetdevs and other people who don't have savings, ability to take loans or someone to just front them the fee to get in.

>>167954196
I could literally dev for 3 years non-stop for 5000$ without any other income.
What were they thinking.

>>167954535
Itch.io could very well become a real stepping stone to indies in the future. Release your game over there with basically no risk and if you make enough bank to cover the Steam fee then you can move on to a bigger market.

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>>167955779
What disability is it that causes people to care about this issue?

>>167955594
>actually monitoring their own fucking platform
Do you really want someone else to decide whether or not your game should be allowed on Steam? What if they decide its not good enough, or your subject matter is "problematic"? You're advocating for censorship.

>>167953037
>fee increase
Fucking jews.

>>167955615
>The biggest blow is dealt to 1MA indies, neetdevs and other people who don't have savings, ability to take loans or someone to just front them the fee to get in.
If your game is really, truly only going to bring in $300 in sales, it does not belong on Steam.

It clutters the store with content that an infinitessimal amount of people care to see; it's the same reason everyone's Etsy trash shouldn't come up when you search for products on Amazon. If you're creating content for a realistic audience of three dozen people you should not be sharing a "search results" page with a game that's realistically worth buying to 30,000 people.

>>167954883
If your game is decent but not good enough to hit the Steam front page then it will easily get lost in the sea of shit that steam is full of. And they don't provide you with very good tools to search through that shit.

>>167955615
$200 is not really that much money
Most parents would probably give their kids that much if it was important

>>167955997
eastern yurop here
we're fucked

>>167954196
>$5000
>per title
What the flying fuck? that's almost half of my car's value. They are doing as way to enforce only games with a big budget get on steam right?

>>167955005
>>167955939
That makes sense. I get it now.

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>>167945448
>>167946665
just got back from class
here's what I got now

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>>167955716
I feel like they're stabbing themselves in the foot with these fee increases. All you're gonna see is the reduced amount of indie titles, good or bad, on steam.

The devs will be forced to make exclusive deals with other distributors, so the good games will only be uploaded on steam after weeks later, after the devs acquired the money needed for the fees. The steam sales will suffer, the indie dev profits will suffer. A new platform will be the victor here.

>>167955926
>it does not belong on Steam
That shouldn't be for you to decide

>>167955868
It's sort of like how people who browse /fit/ too much develop body-dysmorphia, people who shitpost in /aggydagg/ too much develop autism.

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well fuck me

>>167956067
Another central-middle Eurofag here and I can comfirm. For most of us, that's a quarter, if not half of a monthly salary.

>>167956375
This is true of all 4chan boards

>>167955868
>check out my 1920s style movie!
>except it has sound and all I did was push the grey scale button on the camera

>>167955926
>If your game is really, truly only going to bring in $300 in sales, it does not belong on Steam.
In many ways I agree but there's also a chance that broke ass developer made something great but simply doesn't have the contacts, money or the knowhow to get it visibility.

Also you'll never know how much money your game will actually end up making unless you're an established developer and even then you can only estimate.

>>167956297
It will also kill some free games. I can see devs that had plans to release their game for free putting a price on them intead, to avoid feeling they lost 5000.

>>167956067
>>167956495
South American here, that's more than my full salary. L-lol

Valve seems to miss the fucking problem here. It's not about the fee.
It's that a fucking shoddily made UE game with 100% free assets somehow gets through Greenlight.
I preferred when it was just some Nazis on Valve picking and choosing instead of this fucked up and rigged voting system.

>>167956495
>>167956634
1000 dollars is literally over 2 minimal wages here

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2 months. I will finish the game in 2 months. I expected to finish it before June, but I will double my workload. I will succeed!

>>167956696
Did you actually get through greenlight already?

They could very well stop letting people through right now.

>>167956335
It's for me to decide as an end-user of Steam. It's for me to decide as someone who has to wade through an ocean of total dogshit every time I browse the store looking for games.

Steam shouldn't be a flea market. If you're a serious aspiring developer, even $5k isn't an absolutely enormous chunk of change (it's large, but if you can't even successfully Kickstart that fee you don't have a prayer of developing an audience anyway). If you're looking to shit out games once a month for $50 in beer money, that's fine, but there are better models. Itch.io, or setting up a Patreon, or some other website dedicated to digital busking.

So if we already have a greenlight "account" should we put up as many projects as we can before that goes into effect? Is it too late? My game is already past GL but there are sequels/offshoots I wanted to do

>>167956773
I haven't applied yet, but I really doubt they'd just stop all the people that got through it already.

>>167954196
$5000 is more money than I've ever had at once in my life.

>>167956297
The problem is that while """troll""" submissions will be stopped, it takes nothing to go from paying Greenlight's 100$ to Direct's 200$ minimum fee, and now the voting system is scrapped. Bad games will flow even faster.

>>167956780
We have to wade through your chinese cartoon VNs every time we browse the store but no one is saying they shouldn't be allowed

so we have to pay $5000 + 30% + taxes?
just fucking kill me now

>Greenlight gets shut down
>/agdg/ gets salty af
Guess you'll actually have to put some effort into it now, shitfams :^)

>>167956798
Do your sequels as DLC instead.

>>167957064
I can't put in more effort than I already am you asshole

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>>167953709
I want to hug-molest her

>>167956680
I meant the $200 part, but yeah, you are also right.

>>167956621
Damn, man, just, damn.

Other than this, I would be 100% ok with payment/game if it's around the current price. But 5k? What the heck? Or would it be dependent on the game? Don't tell me they have the resources to price tag these things but not the man power to browse trough what's good and what's not on GL?

What will happen with all the sweet free to play titles?

>>167956574
VA-11 HALL-A devs got fucked beyond oblivion, there is no way they can get that amount of money to pay the fee for another game.

>>167957189
what have you done to her nose

>>167957053
It would actually be fairly reasonable if Steam "paid back" the fee from the 30% until it covered the entire fee.

It would give Steam an entry barrier but in the long run wouldn't fuck over games that don't sell that much.

>>167957226
Keys when?

>>167957053
They consider "from 200$ to 5000$"
It'll be either 200$ (because they really can't start asking indie devs for 5000$ or more than that, come on) or it will range from that-to-that, adapted maybe.

>>167957226
Are you joking?
The game sold over 100k copies. They probably own their shithole of a country by now.

>>167957226
They can now that they made a lot of money.

>>167957016
You can easily filter out content by genre. You can block the "anime" tag from appearing (and don't we all do that already?)

I'd be okay with keeping the shovelware games if I could filter store content by total lifetime sales. If there was a box where I could type "$5,000" and any game that had made less than $5,000 in sales would be hidden from view in my store, I'd be okay with that too.

But it's already hard enough to find relevant content on Steam without EVERY SINGLE GENRE, TAG AND CATEGORY being 10:1 represented by no-budget shovelware shit. It's the 80/20 rule problem; 80% of Steam's revenue is coming from 20% of its content, I don't want to have to wade through the 80% nobody cares about looking for the 20% everyone wants.

>>167957226
their game sold really well and won awards. pretty sure they can get somebody to publish them if they wanted to now, dont worry.

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>>167957339
not put enough effort in to remember it

I'm sorry ;_;

>>167957413
You know those guys live in a shithole with ridiculous levels of inflation right?
They probably got to eat for a month with those 100k.

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>>167956473
I will.

>>167957562
they get paid in DOLLARS ($)

>>167957182
Never gonna make it with that attitude brah

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>>167957563

>>167957619
Doesn't change the fact their food is expensive as fuck.

>>167957664
>>>/r/gamedev

>>167956473
I'm comming for ya!

>>167957803
???????
Do you not get how inflation works??

>>167957069
Underrated post

>>167957945
Do you?

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>>167957803
>>167957562

>>167957348
bump

>>167958036
Everything costs a ton and you can get a ton of money using a stable currency like the dollar?

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>>167954196
RIP chances of having my game on Steam.

Why are you all getting butthurt over steam?

They are plenty of other platforms to distribute your game.

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>>167954196
>they are considering making it a $100 to $5000 fee to upload a game to steam instead of voting with just a $100 fee

it has every dev I know going fucking nuts right now
like paid mods nuts and I'm the only guy sitting in a crowd of mad fucks thinking I like it because it would stop asset flipping, 1 hour troll posting games.
and also stop the flood of games on steam that aren't so great.
I want it to be $1000


at the same time though its concerning because you have to pay for EACH game you upload
and its even more concerning as to how much money does valve fucking need
they already take 30% of all games on steam
now add in $1000 fee for uploading? Christ
how much money does gabe need.

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Wew time to start retopologising, I'll paint any extra detail onto the texture later. Looking forward to being able to start animating this lil nigga

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>>167956267
keep the sks? thoughts?
it's for my roguelike

>>167958346
Steam is the biggest of them.

I'm curious though. What else is there for the PC?

Humble, GoG and Itch.io?

>>167958346
how many of them have a huge audience of mouthbreathing console refugees who refuse to use anything else?

>>167957446
Better filtering and search tools are desperately needed, agreed. For Steam being the leader that it is, and valve being a technology company, its strange the frontend experience is so bad

>>167958346
literally everyone and their mother has steam
no-one's going to bother to buy your shitty video game on an obscure ass platform

>>167958531
look at source engine, is it really any surprise? it was outdated already in 2004. they've always been tech regressives

>>167958346
For responsible developers who actually market their games and make sure that they're bought even after the first week of the initial release, who publish their games on multiple platforms like gog, on android and ios stores, and steam, about 70% of the revenue comes from steam. And often they say they wasted time porting games to mobile, since they could have been developing another game focused on steam.

>>167958208
Obviously, but if the government pulls a "corralito" on them they are fucked.

>tfw only 2 people actually try to help you out with bugs after you update your game
>tfw everyone else is radio silence

last time i fall for the release demos meme

>>167958759
Demos aren't for feeback, you're thinking of betas

>>167958413
>how much money does gabe need.
He's made billions and billions according to Forbes

>>167958759
I'm in the mood of helping you out. Give me a link and I'll do a bughunt for you.

>>167958413
>no-one's sure if they're going to even make 1k in a year
>suddenly the fee of entry on steam grows 10 times, completely fucking over those who live in the anuses of the world
>people who were already on greenlight retain their free reign to upload whatever shit they want while others forever cucked out of what is without a doubt the biggest game shop on the pc
gee i wonder why everyone's flipping their shit

>>167958850
bad wording but that's what they are, unfinished in progress builds of the game

>>167958413
>how much money does gabe need.
Enough to buy a new heart I guess.

>>167958932
good. the world needs office clerks more than game devs.

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>>167958501
>tfw I forgot the magazine

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>Oh no, I'll have to pay a little bit more to get my game on Steam!
Get a job, you bums.

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I have an incredibly specific question.

So, I put vertical constraints on the camera, so that players won't phase it through the floor. However, I also added a zoom to the scroll wheel. So, while those constraints are perfect for the current position of the camera, once you zoom in a bit, you can go right through the floor.

Does anyone know how I might go about fixing this, and if so, how?

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>tfw exporting photoshop brushes to png to use them in my game as particle sprites
HAHA TRY TO STOP ME

>>167954196
the downfall of steam begins, unless the fee is $500+ it's going to turn into another race to the bottom with 99 cent games

>>167959082
>potentially 50x as much
>a little bit more

>>167959082
If you're not paying me stop telling me what to do

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>>167953709
Have you thought about doing something like this?

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>>167959082
pt 2 is you right now

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>>167954196
>mfw third worlder who didn't get his game on steam yet
>been saving 100 bucks for 6 months

>>167959082
i can't believe there are people who eat shit like "we thought the voting process was a bit stressful for the developers so we've increased the fee 30 fucking times" up

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>>167957189
yes you may HUG the cat

thank you anon, I'd love to see you draw her in a different pose though, you didnt have to trace it!

>>167959207
oh shit that's good. WAIT A MINUTE you're the guy who wants the paw shaped gun

>>167959082
>a lttle bit more
I'm glad your mom will pay your steam fee for you, anon. Is a shame people learn to value money when they work hard for it.

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high wiz fashion

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Got the player's movement sprites, and a little bit of environmental stuff done. I'm probably going to build a sprite font next, so I can get started on dialogue/interaction text.

>>167959092
add an if condition so that if the player zooms in, past a certain point he can't zoom.
if you can't get the value of the zoom just use some variable you increase/decrease as you zoom

I have this theory, correct me if I'm wrong:

>indie games will retreat to itch or will create a new platform
>people on Steam who love indie games realize there's no more of them there or simply not as many
>they'll discover said sites above and start to spend their sweet money
>the balance of the universe is restored

>>167959257
Should have teamed up with a yesdev on here that already paid up :^) We could have "published" you

>>167959291
People believe anything if Valve says it while trying to act the victim

>release porn version of game in itch
>make enough money to release on steam
>profit