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You Died: >>167744265

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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Hope it helps. :)
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Really tricks my amygdalan arm
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Post comics
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>>167906192
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PURGE FILTH
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is the early gmae supposed to be such a nightmare

gascoigne eats up all of my bullets and vials every attempt, and having to clear yharnam just to refill my stocks for another try at him is pretty boring.
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>>167906645
You should be able to easily cheese him on the gravestones, music box his werewolf form, then finish him off with molotovs.
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>>167906192
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>>167906645
I use the Music Box on Gascoigne once every form, which may give you a window to land a backstab, or at least a charged R2. Serration and Molotovs are also very useful, along with any Oil Urns you may have
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>>167906192
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>>167907682
My favorite part about this one is the Silverbeast chewing on the hat
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>>167907682
>mad one with beard instead of hair
>silverbeast having anything to do with insight
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>First time fighting the Living Failures
>pretty boring
>choir drops
>suddenly the sky turns into the cosmos and fucking meteors rain from the sky
Those little blue aliens had no right to be that cool.
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>>167906645
Gascoigne is definitely a big hurdle, if you haven't already done Cleric Beast I'd recommend that for getting good at dodging and some levels
Practice parrying on the big bois for you don't waste so many bullets on Gascy and just get proper timing on him
Never like, panic-fire after being hit or anything either
Take a step back then fire properly
Unfortunately his second form may give you some major trouble if you're not great at dodging
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>>167906645
>DaS 2 meme
kill yourself m8
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>>167907682
Imagine if the blood moon was a insight trigger, miyazaki fucking us again
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So what was the Holy Medium they discovered in the tombs?
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What does the rest of the world see/think during Paleblood moon?
I imagine the moon in Yharnam is the same moon the rest of the world sees so I feel like when that began either they had to see something different or mass panic begin
Maybe it's something like only Yharnam residents/woke people can see it but I can't remember ever reading anything explaining this
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>>167910436
Generally considered to be ebby and her blood.
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>>167910492
I thought that but was told that is not the case.
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>>167910436
Blood.
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>MFW milkweed
Wasn't this thing supposed to give me tentacles or something?
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>>167910492
I wouldn't say Ebrietas, that was in Isz, but blood almost certainly
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>>167910482
>What does the rest of the world see/think during Paleblood moon?
Nothing, the red moon isn't even visible in all the areas in Yharnam.

>>167910561
Yes, when you equip the Kos Parasite.
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>>167910552
Yeah, got that. The source is the question.
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>>167910482
The Blood Moon is 100% localized in Yharnam, not even immediately surrounding areas see it. It's the cosmos, aint gotta explain shit.
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Why did aliens do it?
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>>167911182
They wanted the baby
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>>167911050
Some people say Queen Yharnam and Mergo, mostly the Queen. I can't confirm one way or another, but this seems plausible
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>Do Shaman Bone Blade strat for shark fuckers
>They're not doing any damage to each other
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>>167911261
The blood minister calls it Yharnam blood, Yharnam is called blood queen and her wrists are cut and bound when you meet her in the dungeons.
Yharnamites used her blood.
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>>167911483
There's the answer. I never noticed her wrists being cut, though, but I've only fought her twice in the dungeons
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>>167911309
Stab them with the blade AFTER they see each other not before you fucking idiot both of them are massive parry bait anyway just get their timing down you dont need any shaman blades
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>>167911750
>lmao just git gud idiot
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>>167911916
>Parrying
>a sign of gud

this is how we know you're bad

Parrying makes things easier, not harder.
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Anyone else getting the artbook?
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>>167912606
I already have the full digital version, but I really want a physical copy too.
It's not a priority for me though, especially considering that they're making a Figma. Now that really interests me.
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Is it ever hinted at what the "sprites" Ludwig found actually were? From the description of the guidance rune, it doesn't sound like they were particularly bad or evil.
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>>167911916
How is that an inappropriate criticism? Clearly you lacked information, so you need more. You need to git gud, by getting more information. Don't get triggered by arguably applicable alliterations.

>>167910673
>Kos Parasite
Gotcha. Trying to beat down the Living Failures currently. How much further until I can pick it up, and will I have to deal with Micolash again before then? Just give me a general estimate on stuff between me and the parasite?
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>>167913473
Two bosses (Failures not included) and one area.
The Kos Parasite is not a hidden item, if you complete the DLC you can't miss it.
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Thinking of coming back to bb to try the kos parasite, should I just use my old wheel build with 25str and 50 arc or try for a 99 arc build? Haven't tried a hmlgs build either.
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>>167913854
Holy Moonlight Sword is best used on a build with some strength in it, so you might as well keep using your wheel character or an optimized version of it.
99arc builds require too much vit sacrifice in my opinion, especially if you want to stay in the /bbg/ pvp range.
If you want to try a build with high arc you should consider 80 instead.
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>>167913435
There was some talk a while back about Rally and the beings of light, I think it ended in those flecks of light around you when you take damage and are able to rally are those beings of light which, in some way, heal us upon the addition of blood, in this case, from enemies. It was surmised that they're literally trapping the flying blood flying everywhere and putting back inside you. I think it was also surmised that Guidance produces more of them, or allows us to become aware of them, or makes more appear that are there that wouldn't appear if we didn't have Guidance. So, the little beings Ludwig focused on were just pulling in all this blood from beast hunts, he became absolutely full of the stuff, and in his blind zealotry for beast slaying, he had no idea what was actually going on, and became a rapehorse.

As for what those beings of light even are, or where they come from? No idea. I assume they're some by-product or function of the blood.
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>>167914536
>I assume they're some by-product or function of the blood
It's stated that caryll runes don't rely on blood in any way.
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>>167914536
Miazaki once said that he thought of the rally system as something akin to a determination meter: you get the initial "oh shit" from getting hit, then lash back out to put the fucker in his place.
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>>167906183
If you look up the lyrics of hail the nightmare, its pretty clear they are summoning him.
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>>167914536
I really hope we get another DLC that explains some of the stuff they left unanswered in the base game and Old Hunters. Just off the top of my head, it's never said why some scholar betrayed everybody at Byrgenwerth just to give the Cainhurst's forbidden blood.
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>>167915004
I doubt it we will ever get another DLC.

Now a sequel? that i can see happening in 4 years time when big M isn't sick of the formula anymore.
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>>167912905
>figma
Details please
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>>167915245
There are none outside of this image that was posted on the official JP Bloodborne and SIE Twitter pages.
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How do I deal with the acid chemical traps in the Astral Clocktower

Is there something triggering them to go off, I can't figure it out
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>>167915364
>likes huge tits from some retarded weeaboo game
>is an idiot

can't make this stuff up
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>>167914653
Then Guidance isn't a Caryll rune, neither are any of the visceral-based ones that restore ammo and health or do more visceral damage or beasthood build up, because those all explicitly are related to and dependent on blood. Caryll runes a process of being created or transcribed might not rely on blood, nor do they require it to work, but the functions of a great deal of them rely on blood.
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>>167915364
>Is there something triggering them to go off
Yes, there's always a pressure plate similar to the arrow traps in Shrine of Storms and Sen's Fortress.
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>>167915486
Fuck how did I not see the tiles, thank you
>>167915467
What the fuck is wrong with big ass tiddies anon
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>>167915364
Look on the ground for raised floor tiles. Once you see them, they become glaringly obvious, you'll hit yourself for not seeing them.
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Do you think Bloodborne 2 is coming?
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>>167913435
I like >>167914536 's theory, but IMO they're almost certainly Phantasms:

From Guidance: "When Ludwig closed his eyes, he saw darkness, or perhaps nothingness,
and that is where he discovered the tiny beings of light."

From ACB: ""Long ago, the Healing Church used phantasms to reach a lofty plane of darkness, but failed to make contact with the outer reaches of the cosmos.
"The rite failed to achieve its intended purpose, but instead created a small exploding star ..."

From EPS: "The Healing Church has discovered a great variety of invertebrates, or phantasms, as they are called."
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>>167905318
>first time I ever fought Logarius in my life, blind, no guides used

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4uu23z_logs_videogames

pretty cool huh bros?
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>>167915771
No, thankfully.
Sequels suck, especially if they're continuations of very good, complete stories, and especially if they're made by modern FromSoftware.
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>>167915339
It was just announced last wonfes, so it's not especially strange that there hasn't been any news since. With any luck there'll be a prototype at winter wonfes next weekend.

But since it's not a popular anime series there's a reasonable chance this will get pushed to the back burner and maybe not happen at all.
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>>167916397
>there's a reasonable chance this will get pushed to the back burner and maybe not happen at all
If SIE tweeted it it means that Max Factory already has the copyright and everything necessary to make it, I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it.
Besides, Bloodborne is still very popular, especially in Japan, and there are Figmas of much more obscure series.
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I beg your pardon
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>>167916830
>brightness up that high
you deserved it
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Nioh > Bloodborne

casul cucks play a real game
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>>167917029
>>>/v/
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>>167916763
Yeah, that's true, there's weird figma for less popular stuff coming out every year. I guess I just tend to expect the worst when it's something I'm actually interested in.
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>>167917029
"Nioh has a higher skill ceiling than Souls"
-ENB
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>>167917078
u casul /b/ro?
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>>167917172
ENB is a confirmed liar though. Nothing he says can be taken at face value.
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>>167916098
have faith on miazaky
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>>167917562
says the dick chopper
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I just bought a PS4 pro and Bloodborne today. Also bought the Old Hunters DLC. This is my first time ever playing. No walk through, no friend back seat gaming. The most I've ever seen about this game other than my own 2 eyes are screenshots. I startted as Lone Survivor because of the HP. took the Hunters Axe and blunderbuss at the beginning. I explored the dream, found the vendor, and bought the better armor set. I also just stumbled into Cleric Beast and killed it first try! Even managed a riposte on it. Or whatever the critical hit is called. Have I fucked up anywhere in regards to my character?

I like big slower weapons, so I'm assuming I should go strength? Is bloodtinge like faith? Arcane is like int? Assuming Skill is dex and the others are self explanatory. I also cannot seem to find an equip load display. Maybe I'm just missing it? General tips and tricks on BB? I already know to be agressive. I had those 2 beasts right before Cleric Beast tear me a new one because I kept trying to play keep away. Lastly, other than countering an enemy hit, how useful is my offhand weapon? Can it be had in combat? Or only for countering?

The shit that I bought. Yay tax returns.
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>>167918257
>The most I've ever seen about this game other than my own 2 eyes are screenshots.
are you new to 4chinks? have you not seen the continued systematic shitposting of this game which has reigned on for over two years?
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>>167918257
Go str or quality if you want big weapons. Arc is for Magic, and tinge is for guns, basically speaking.

Shooting dogs sens them flying. It's really satisfying after how annoying dogs have been through the series.
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>>167917737
>dick chopper
Is luci a jew?
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>>167918257
Bloodtinge is its own thing, it governs the power of the your blood which affects mainly guns, but there are a couple weapons that draw power from it. Avoid for your first playthrough since unless you level it from the start with a specific weapon in mind it's pretty pointless. Arcane governs fire and bolt damage while also letting you use hunters tools (which are basically spells)

Equip load doesn't exist in this game

Unless you're doing a bloodtinge build your offhand gun is only really useful for parrying, some weapons require both hands to wield though.

If you wish to access the DLC pick up the eye of the blood drunk hunter, it'll be on the stairs in hunters dream and then let the glowing vortex where you picked up hunters garb (top hat version) grab and kill you Once you're in the DLC you'll be able to use the headstone the doll sometimes prays at to access it.

Also as a tip, sometimes you'll have to roll forward off of things, it will send you plenty far compared to souls games and fall damage is more forgiving

Don't feel bad about spending insight since you'll wind up with max 99 by the end of it with plenty to spare anyway
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>>167918257
>Lone Survivor
>Hunters Axe
HAHAHAHA
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>>167918257
Starting class is never something you should fret over too much on first playthrough for Souls games, Hunter Axe is a fine starting weapon as well. Critical Hits/Ripostes are called Viscerals.
Most of the slower weapons are STR yes. Bloodtinge governs the damage of your guns and some select trick weapons.
Arcane is like INT in that it governs the damage of whats considered "spells" in Bloodborne. You'll find them soon enough.
There is no equip load. No fretting over weight % thresholds here.
With enough Bloodtinge and the right weapon firearms can do plentiful damage. Their primary use is for parries though.
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>>167918934
>lul u didnt follow my pvp meta i know about from checking the wiki? kek

don't be a cunt, you can beat the game with fucking anything
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>>167918918
>Unless you're doing a bloodtinge build your offhand gun is only really useful for parrying
I'll have you know a base requirement bone marrow'ed Repeating Pistol fucks up any boss with a sensitive spot mercilessly on NG. Its on NG+ and beyond is when you need BLT for it.
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>>167919192
only if ur gud like me
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Should i not be summoning NPCs for Laurence?
They seem to just run into the AoEs.
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>>167919307
It's pretty effective in NG+, Chalices, and PvP too.
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>>167918704
I noticed that the dogs are much higher more agressive. I'll try shooting one in the face and telling it to fuck off
>>167918918
No equip load, awesome. Thanks for the tips. Do I have to do the DLC before killing the final boss in BB? Or is it like Dark Souls 3 where I can continue playing? I usually?Y prefer to beat the main game in its entirety before DLC
>>167918579
Definitely not new to 4chan. Just every time a BB thread popped up anywhere, I hid the thread. I played on PC for everything and just couldn't justify spending $400 on a console for a single for game. Now that there are more titles available that I'm interested in, I nutted up and went all out on a PS4 setup.
>>167918934
What's wrong with either on of those? Chose the axe because I like axes. It's slow, but I'm used to attacking early to compensate for the wind up from all my experience in Dark Souls games. Plus it's a great street sweeping weapon when In 2H mode.

Is it a waste to pump points into endurance so I can have more stamina? I notice I can only get 2 2H swings in before having to back off. I'd like to be able to get 4 consecutive 2H swings in and still be able to dodge at least once.
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>>167919960
Once you pass the point of no return you're put into NG+ immediately

It's recommended you do the DLC at like 60-70. The doll has some special dialogue as you progress through it, but it gets overriden if you get to the point of no return and turn away to continue fucking about.

Don't bother leveling endurance too highly, you never really need more than 20 since there are plenty of stamina runes in the game (runes are basically rings)
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>>167919960
Axe is amazing, but the starting class you picked isn't really the best for it. It doesn't really matter unless you care about min-maxing though.
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>>167920129
OK so there is a point of no return. Similar to killing Gwyn in Dark Souls 1. I'll make sure to go for the DLC when I'm within level range. Will probably go in as level 75-80. I usually tend to over level a bit for DLC I've never played and know nothing about.
>>167920147
Yeah I only chose LS class because of its starting base of 14 vitality compared to the other classes. Figured I should handicap myself as little as possible for my 1st blind run.

I'm also playing offline. No summons or messages other than the ones provided by the game itself. Also I have heard something about a chalice? Like dungeons or something?
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reminder not to reply to tripfags
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how much rally does the hunter axe's transforming attack have exactly
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>>167920446
Chalices are special optional dungeons you need to get materials to make. They have a path like that adds to the story. Then there are root chalices, which are randomly generated and have the best loot. Don't bother with the root ones until you beat the "story" chalices first.
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>>167920681
OK will do thanks. What's this rally stuff that the other anon mentioned? The Hunters axe did say something about the axe 2H form having higher rally. Guessing it's similar to loose or hyper armor from dark souls?
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>>167920446
Chalices become available once you kill a certain boss (he's fairly early in the game and unless you buy a key for 10k souls he's mandatory)

They are basically dungeons. More difficult bosses typically, but better gems for your weapons. You need ritual materials for certain chalices which you get throughout the game.

Root chalices are randomized chalices of that type, you can add additional rites like fetitd/rotted/cursed that gives you better loot (FRC for short)
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>>167920804
rally is just the life you regain on hit.
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>>167920804
If you take a hit, you can regain some of the health you lost by attacking enemies to refill your health. Higher rally means you get back more health per hit.

Protip: Keep attacking after the enemy is dea. You can keep regaining health from them for a few hit/
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>>167920817
Sounds cool. I'll keep my eye out for the stuff and chalices.
>>167920891
>>167920942
Ohhh OK I was wondering how I occasionally regained HP out of nowhere. Thanks
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Kos:D
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So everybody actually did leave to play Nioh, huh.
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Wow I fucking love the extremely telegraphed attack by Ludwig of "walk forward but this time you have a hitbox"
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>>167925448
It is the better game, after all :^)
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>>167921161
Now that you know the basics, leave and only come back once you have finished the game, don't ask for help, don't use a guide. If you really have avoided spoilers so far then don't rob yourself of a blind 1st playthrough
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>>167925806
>>167925448
I'm still here. I can't afford new video games and I haven't even beaten Bloodborne for the first time so I'll be around a while.
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>>167928507
I'm still here because I'm so strongly disinterested in the Sengoku Japan that I can't enjoy Nioh even if the gameplay is good.
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>>167929736
>Sengoku Japan.
>Character is a halfling who starts in England.
YEAH OKAY.
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Keeping thread alive with art
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>>167930063
What do I care about the character though? The entire game is Japanese as fuck.

Here's Alfred to have at least some BB in this post.
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>>167930232
Character is half European, hell he has blonde hair & blue eyes it's even on the damn box art. Not only would he be kicked out of Japan, people would still call him a foreigner.
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>>167930272
What are you even on about. Is this some weird shitposting to keep the thread alive?
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>>167930063
>>167930272
This belongs in the Nioh thread, but he's actually based on a real dude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)
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>>167930482
No u.
>>167930563
I had no idea, I thought it was based on something else. Question is why was he used?
The game is really appealing to Western's isn't it? Off of the Dark Souls hype for sure.
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>>167930698
probably because the game was in development hell for almost as long as duke nukem forever, and the main character was the one thing that the original creator wouldn't change
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>>167931084
I think I was told about that. Why was the creator so vehement about sticking to the first western samurai?
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>>167931194
probably because he's a fucking weeb, I don't know. I don't particularly care about the game since the demos were all only available for a limited time, so that automatically turned me off of it.
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>>167931302
How was the creator a weeb I thought it was Japanese made?
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>>167931551
I just don't care.
What little I was able to play of the final demo wasn't endearing, and then I couldn't play any more because reasons. What those might be, only koei tecmo knows.
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hot damn I beat amygdala on my first attempt last night. I thought for sure when it was a spider faggot (a great one? I'm not sure of the lore) I was toast. I expected to be incinerated by those lasers but they were easy to avoid. running attacks with the tricked axe made quick work of her
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Please tell me I'm not the only one who absolutely detest this abomination of a level. This is some serious DkS II-tier shit. playing for the first time
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>>167933127
It's not that bad, definitely not DS 2-tier bad. Just run through and kill Bell Maidens. Boss is stupid easy at least.
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>>167933127
Some of the bell maiden's positions are obnoxious as fuck. It's the only level in any souls game ever where I've just decided fuck any souls or treasure, and just ran straight through the entire area without fighting anything.
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>>167933127
the only das2 (linear) tier levels in bb are hemwick and byrgenwerth
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>>167933127
yeah it's pretty annoying. the enemies hit hard and they all respawn until you kill the maiden. that section with the women and laser shit before the chapel lamp is absolute hell, just run past everything and get to that lamp. there is an area you're gonna want to explore though, there's some good loot to be had and it opens up another secret area at cathedral ward.
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LAWRENCE IS THE BLB

WAKE UP SHEEPLE
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>>167933629
No Anon, you are BLB.
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>>167933629
Its like the whole wet nurse thing, it might be true, but nobody cares and it doesn't affect anything anyway
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>>167933483
adding onto this, be careful when you get back to the hypogean gaol area. it's going to be different

beware of hunters
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>>167933769
except it's not because we know what happens to him from what we see in the nightmare
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>>167933906
The nightmare is a projection. The nightmare does not actually represent what happened in the waking world.
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Jesus fucking christ fps drops all over the shop. This shit is unplayable good god do i really need to buy a new one
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>>167934128
please elaborate more on your skills of differentiating between what was real and fake. I'm sure non of the other events in the nightmare took place in the real world either
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>>167933206
>Boss is stupid easy at least.
Thanks for making me feel depressed. I don't remember dying in Bloodborne THAT often. AoE-bosses are Achilles' heel to me, apparently.
It's kind of ironic because the level is an obvious homage to Demon's Souls and my two favorite bosses from this game. Still, my blood is few degrees away from fucking boiling. Gotta get gud, I guess.
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>>167936062

You are not alone, I've learned to beat most bosses easily by now but the one reborn always gets me a few times. I never seem to figure out what it's doing and die to something stupid
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>page 9
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>>167937664
>Eileen was Gehrman all along
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can someone lend me a hand with lower pthumeru rom I'm having the worst luck today. I'll set the password to dedspider
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well shit just dedspide cause it won't all fit.
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>>167937956
ye sure
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>>167938691
alright I'm ringing and ready. thanks in advance
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>>167938691
hey thanks for that. I need better gems God
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>>167939078
np my man.
I farmed winter lanterns to get some 20% phys gems before the FRC's.
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page 10, time to remerge with /dsg/.

recaptcha:close batemans
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I would rather die
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>>167936062
Leechmonger is one of your favorite bosses?
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>>167936062
This cunt is pissing me off with it's bullshit attacks that spawn from nowhere with no warning whatsoever. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to make my way back to it through that fucking horde every time.
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>>167942392
You mean the fireballs? Just go up the stairs in the boss room.
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>>167942868
Not even that. Just the random aoe blasts and shit that come from its body while attacking it.
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>>167935575
>Elaborate on your skills
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is that Lawrence is the BLB.
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Is there a reason why the game tells me I don't meet the requirements for dungeons when I already have every chalice? Just did it the first time and tried several dungeon glyphs but I could only join one of them.
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>>167941881
I thought that the bell ringers are going to revive him, just like Fool's Idol. Nice joke, though, fuck Leechmonger
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Would two WPN durability down gems work on a tricked wheel, or would the multi-hit attacks ruin everything?
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>>167944428
You can't use someone else's cursed dungeon if you never made a cursed dungeon before.
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>>167944763
Durability down gems on wheel are fine.
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>ludwigs on +3 have better stats than most of my weapons on +8
na-nani......................
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Holy Jesus what's up lads
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>>167946481
making a new character mate, what ru doing
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I don't understand why I play arcane builds its so much fucking time to get to the good parts and even then it doesn't even like seem fun.
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>>167945280
AR (attack rating) doesn't matter that much. It doesn't tell you anything about the multipliers or the speed or the stamina cost.

This is why it's considered the meme weapon for new players.
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>>167946561
Gonna do some random SRRC later m8, help some chalice lads

>>167946586
Because they end up sick powerful with elemental damage out the arse, and tools are fun as fook
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What's some useful gem for a gun? Something with HP regen?
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>>167947017
Depends. Damage if you are use the gun as a gun. HP regen if you need to counter an HP drain gem. I keep a damage based gem in my repeating pistol, for example.
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>>167947017
If you're not a bloodtinge build, yeah, HP regen is best, usually to help offset HP-down curses in other gems.
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can someone give me a hand with these living failures? I'm a little outnumbered. password is bbg
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>>167947258
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I already have 25-26 radials. Should I bother rolling for 27s? or just farm that 32s for a Toothpick
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>167946590
you can r1 all day and not lose stamina when untricked
the moveset is boring but it works, i can see why people like it
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>>167947693
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>>167947693
He was trying to have fun, Anon, have you ever had fun?
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>>167947693
2DEEP4U lowly beast
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>>167947693
FUCK

I just noticed that Brainsuckers have elongated right arms, while beasts have elongated left arms.
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>>167947693
What the fuck can't climb ladders

Watch roving HMPHs follow my ass up ladders next
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Help me please, ringing at Research Hall Lamp in DLC, can't get through Living Failures, pass: cute
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>>167949150
Are you anywher near EU? My ping may be shit. I'm ringing right now
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>>167946590
I don't get this. I mean, I get that the stats are a trap, but hardly for new players. By the time you have access to it, you should have some understanding of the differences in speed, moveset, scaling, and multipliers. You have to at least beat the BSB to get it, and it's in an optional area. A lot of people fight Amelia first too, so that's even later in that you get it. If you fail to grasp that there is more than just raw numbers at that point, you're doing something wrong.
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>>167949572
LHB is one of the best weapons in Vanilla. Hipsters hate it because it is popular. They come up with all kinds of BS reasoning to try to justify that hate, but there really isn't any substantial reasoning.

The DLC introduced so much good shit that it isn't so wide spread as it used to be, but hipsters just can't let the hate go.
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Thanks Xin ! Wanna do Maria with me ? Ringing Research Hall again pass: cute (everyone feel fre to join) !
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We may give it a try. I'm little tipsy though. During living failures I was few pixels away from dying.
You should try to bully Maria solo. She's very fun to play against.
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>>167950280
Oh ok thanks ! Cant summon anyway dunno why
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>>167950425
Move away from the lamp.
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BBG I HAVE A JOB INTERVIEW IN 15MINS
I'VE NEVER HAD INTERVIEW BEFORE, ALL MY PREVIOUS JOBS WERE THROUGH CONNECTIONS
HOW DO I CHEESE THIS
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>>167951263
lie
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>>167951263
smile, be confident, don't stutter and lie
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>>167951263
Same way you cheese everything
>+10 your whirli
>bbp
>hold L2
Wa la
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>>167951263
Don't do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q6rndPvFcI
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>>167951263
Post password
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Whats with the relationship between Gehrman and the Orphan of Kos? I hear some people say Gerhman is the Orphan's father, but I really don't get that.

How the hell does a little man like Gehrman even impregnate a giant mermaid monster like Kos?

IMO it's more likely that the Orphan (as he appears) was the manifestation of a curse within the nightmare; a being of pure hatred and anger born in response to Gehrman and Maria's destruction of the real-world fishing hamlet. He appears to be the host of the Hunter's Nightmare, which is itself is kind of like a hell for hunters.

Maybe Gerhman, Maria and the other early hunters destroyed the real Fishing Hamlet because its people had taken to worshipping living Kos or Kos' remains, and had been turned into fish monsters. Kinda like the beast scourge and Yharnam, but with sea monsters instead of beasts. And maybe Orphan would not be so incredibly angry and hostile towards the player if you were not a hunter.

Was there a waking-world counterpart to the Orphan, outside of the hunter's nightmare? Maybe he was still an underdeveloped fetus inside her when he died; like about the same size as the shadowy figure that appears on Kos' corpse after you kill him?
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Can anyone help me with Ebrietas? She's being a huge bitch.
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>>167953227
pass, m888?
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>quality builds are actually fun in this game
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>>167953368
yno
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>>167949843
it's still pretty widespread. Like 1/3rd of the randoms I coop with use it the whole session

It is crazy powerful though, and almost the entire tricked moveset is really effective. The poise breaking power is one of the best things about it. You can stun lock huge bosses with the jump attacks, L1s, L2s and R2s
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>>167953443
where are you ringing?
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>>167953683
In front of the fog gate
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>>167953594

>LHB is piss easy casual mode

more news at eleven
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>>167953594
I am talking at end game levels. I expect it to still be heavily used in the early and midgame, simply because people haven't accessed the DLC yet.
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>>167953761
I'm eastern EU. Ping may be fucking things up because I have decent connection
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>>167947693
someone posted a pic of a brick troll climbing a ladder before, but I tried in my game and I couldn't get him to do it
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>but the complete collection year ago
>start playing recently
>got bored of it
>can't bring myself to finish it
I don't remember where i left off. I think right before the dlc area.
An i the only one tired of these kinds of games
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>>167953858
Oh well. Thanks for trying.
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Is the flamesprayer or the gas sprayer worth upgrading at 70 arcane? I might give them more use than the gun.
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>>167944806
Didn't know that I had to make one before. Thank you
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>>167953825
I'm talking end-game too. I am cooping with randoms at level 98, on the DLC bosses and in depth 4-5 dungeons, and I see LHBs everywhere. Probably because of its moveset, poise break and high damage makes the game so much easier when you're struggling with a boss.
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And then I just had to fuck up and get 2 shot.
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>>167954323
still ringing at the gate if you wanna give it another go
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>>167954432
Alright, started ringing
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>>167953040
>He appears to be the host of the Hunter's Nightmare
Nightmares do not have "hosts".

>hell for hunters
Correct, it's based on Chinese/Buddhist mythology.

>Maybe Gerhman, Maria and the other early hunters destroyed the real Fishing Hamlet because its people had taken to worshipping living Kos or Kos' remains
That seems likely considering you find the Rakuyo in the well. I wish there was more in-game evidence to implicate Gehrman, but all we really have to go by is his appearance in the DLC trailer.

>And maybe Orphan would not be so incredibly angry and hostile towards the player if you were not a hunter.
That seems likely, considering the Hamlet people call him the "Wizened Child" and seem to worship him as a deity.

>Was there a waking-world counterpart to the Orphan, outside of the hunter's nightmare? Maybe he was still an underdeveloped fetus inside her when he died; like about the same size as the shadowy figure that appears on Kos' corpse after you kill him?
That's how I interpret it. He REEEs when you come at him because everyone in the Hunter's Nightmare is stuck reliving their past forever, and when he sees you he assumes you're one of the Old Hunters, come to fuck his shit up and steal his eyes/umbilical cord/whatever.

>Whats with the relationship between Gehrman and the Orphan of Kos?
Nobody knows, except for Miyazaki. Personally I think it's imprinting. If you take a baby goose away from its mother within a few hours of hatching, it'll latch on to the first thing it sees and think that thing is its mother, even if it's a human being or a dog or something. I think the same thing happened to the Orphan. The first thing it sees is a crazy old man wielding a scythe, so it spends eternity acting like a crazy old man with a scythe.

>>167953415
Quality is the best build in all 5 Souls games tbqh
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>>167954241
Odd. I see almost nothing but DLC weapons, mainly the whirlygig.
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anybody need summons for anything? can do main game, dlc or chalices
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>>167954432
Thanks m8
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new player here. which weapon combo should I start with?
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>>167955023
Any weapon can be used for the whole game. Just pick the one with the moveset you like the most. There's an item in the first level that lets you buy the three starter weapons, so if you don't like the one you picked, you can get the other two later.
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>>167954543
>The first thing it sees is a crazy old man wielding a scythe, so it spends eternity acting like a crazy old man with a scythe.
Artwork of a little OoK acting like Gehrman would be so cute. I hope you read this Anon who did the 'messengers playing with good hunter squid'.
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The arcane guide says you can get a weapon to +9 before fighting ludwig, but aren't there only enough chunks for a +8 weapon pre-Rom?

I'm 2 short from getting to +9 so maybe I'm just missing some but I got all the ones from Cainhurst and the first bit of hunters nightmare
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>>167955776
They drop from gargoyles in Cainhurst. But it's probably quicker to just kill Rom and grab chunks from the ground in Yahar'gul.
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Anyone wanna help with a Watch-Dog of the Old Lords on layer 2 of a Cursed Ailing Lower Loran dungeon. The glyph is jtqw3hib if that helps at all. He's been beating me up for a while now. Pass is bbg, I'll be ringing
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>Ringing 10 minutes
>it was Resonant by sa mistake
Fuck...
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>>167951542
>>167951760
>>167951780
>>167952201
>>167952615
"I'll definitely give you a call"
>tfw they can't just say I didn't get the job
Th-thanks anyway lads
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>>167956796
Is this your first interview? If it is be prepared for more of the same crap.
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>>167906192
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buying the game rn. should i go with the dlc too?
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>>167959245
Yes.
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>>167959245
yes, I'd go as far as to say there's no point buying the game if you're not buying the dlc as well
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>>167959324
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>>167959245
Absolutely, The Old Hunters is the best DLC fromsoft has ever put out.
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>>167959245
Yes, best DLC I've ever played.
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>>167959497
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>>167959674
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>Searching for the chime of a ...
plis, kill me
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>>167959843
>you will never save gascans wife
>you will never save gascans daughters
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>>167955776
Frontier has 4 and 1 in Woods. HN should have 6 while Cainhurst has 5.
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>>167959598
okay got it. wish me luck anon

never even played any dark souls type game tbqhwy
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>>167960787
>never even played any dark souls type game
WEW LAD
Well, BB is in my opinion one of the best but you're gonna have a hard time anon, at least with Souls games you can start out as a spear and shield turtle shitter and slowly work your way up to being gud, here you don't get the floaties when they throw you in the pool.
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>>167960787
I've heard Bloodborne is actually a good start for From games
It's my favorite series with Bloodborne probably being my favorite now so I hope you enjoy it as much as most people here
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>>167960787
There is a (outdated) small guide in the SSJ nugget imgur in the OP. Grab that and run away and only come back after you finished the game. Also don't listen to duders telling you that it's super duper hard, just go fast and trust your instincts.
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Does anyone want to do orphan with me? Ringing at lighthouse, pass is bbg.
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>>167961757
On my way
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>>167960327
D-delete this
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>>167962427
Jesus CHRIST, fuck maria and her absurd reach.
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>>167962059
Thanks my dude.
Should I grind to 98 before fighting MP or just get there after the fact?
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Doing a pure arc, so far my arcane is 30 and my vitality and endurance are around 25. For 120, what should I have my end stats be around. I don't know if I want to go all the way to 99 arcane, and I don't want to gimp my endurance that much. I feel like 50/40/50 is excessive for my vitality and endurance, and not enough arcane for my tools, even though it doesn't effect scaling much. Would 40/30/70 be good, or is that too much vitality/endurance?
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>>167962824
Thanks for having me, m8.
Most people keep Mergo's Wet Nurse alive for Mensis invasions, but if you plan to go into NG+ instead, you can do that. You can also hit two birds with one stone and do chalice dungeons. You'll get plenty of echoes to level to 98.
What level are you now, though?
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>>167962824
Level up while you're doing CDs.

>>167963070
Type that stuff into mugenmonkey and make a screenshot.
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>>167963192
I'm at 75 and I already killed Mergo. I haven't done any dungeons past lower Pthumeru though, I guess I'll just go do them.
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>>167961367
It teaches you to dodge play more offensively, taking advantage of dodges over blocking, and keeps you on your feet. Because other games in the series teach you to be more passive and defensive, it's much less enjoyable. Applying bloodborne-style gameplay to other souls games is the best way to "git gud"
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>>167962794
CHING
CHING
CHING
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>>167963295
Neat, you can hit 98 quickly once you reach Ailing Loran.
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>>167963508
It's not even that. It's that her attacks reach almost all around her, and have a bullshit amount of tracking. When she poses for that long-range stab she shouldn't be able to rotate 180 on a dime, in an instant, and still attack. The only thing I've gotten out of this fight is learning exactly how well I can parry with the Augur of Ebritas. Why do I have to fight this doll lookalike with some bullshit version of that one sword?
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>tfw lunar eclipse tonight
>tfw Paleblood Moon
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>>167963359
Yeah exactly, like what >>167961202
said there's no turtling in Bloodborne
I looooove big tank big fuck turtley characters in Souls games but they definitely shouldn't be the only type people play, especially because dex and shit can be fun too
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>>167963659
lol gitgud loser
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>>167963070
30 END is way to much. 40 vit is good because you can play safer with arcane tools imhofam.
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>>167963070
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Reposting. Does anyone have this image without the text and without cropping? OP's media pastebin has it in a disgustingly huge resolution, but that version has the text.

Thanks to the anon who posted this version last time I asked, it's higher res than any others I can find but the jpeg artifacts become really noticeable when its printed.
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>>167963070
>pure arc
>25 end

Don't bother going 99 Arc unless you wanna be a 150 Reddit shitter. Might as well restart if you want 50+ Arc, that is way too much End. Most people here don't advise going above 20 for any build, Cruel Fate's base End (12) is enough for Arc builds. 40/12/90 Vit/End/Arc puts you at 116 for Pure Arc. You could just keep going and make it into a Str/Arc hybrid, 25/50 is gud. At least 12 Skl for Wheel and HMS.
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>>167965309
I would say Cruel Fate, minimum stats for weapon usage (as much of a red flag as it is to use LHB, it works well for Arc builds), and at least 50 Arc. If he's only using weapons like Threaded Cane and Saw Spear, all the more for Arc
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Finally got this dialogue again.
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>>167966579
12 playthroughs and I still ain't seen that shit
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>>167966826
You need more eyes my good m8.
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>>167964456
is it really too much? Is Kos super stamina efficient or something? I wouldn't have thought that.
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>>167967229
Lurk more
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Has anyone here ever managed to do a full play through with the vanilla beast claws?
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>>167967229
If you go over base end you get shat on and made fun of
But remember to play how you like anon, my end is way higher than base on all my builds because I like smashing everything and still being able to dash away.
Instead the faggots will tell you to pump vit so they rely more on tanking than being able to actually dodge because needless to say they're plebs who need to git gud
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>>167967614
I haven't myself.
I did beat OoK with the claws once though.
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>>167967742
So that's why. Honestly I don't really want to bring my vitality above the soft cap, I'd much rather more attacks. Plus with runes I don't get completely fucked health-wise, and being able to get more attacks in is much bigger
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>>167967742
>spams dodges
>stunlocks with eleven R1's with his LHB
>tells others to git gud
laffin.
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>>167967927
Please tell us this again after you walk into a 31% korean cheesecake unzip
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>>167964281
>>167964281
Hey don't get me wrong: for all my anger at this menstral-rage minstral I am signifigantly enjoying this fight. Everything boils down to basically half seconds of whether I dodge, advance, or if I can risk getting an extra attack in. Also fucking visceral healing every few seconds.
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>>167967927
Nah don't listen to him, Runes make leveling End mostly obsolete for meta levels. You'll want 40-50 Vit with 2 HP Runes if you plan to PvP, gems make weapons hit stupid hard and stamina regen is very quick. Slap on the 20% Stam Rune and you're fine for any weapon/build. You won't get shit on for going over base, 15-20 End is recommended. It's just that at base End it's doable with a Stam Rune.
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>>167967969
>salty because someone beat you for having a better build
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Looking for some help with Rom at Byrgenwerth. Password is "wew"
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>>167968323
I'm not talking about PvP, LHB is awful for it. But don't say overleveling end so you can spam hits and dodges is in anyway more skillful than having a less agile more tanky build.
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>>167967742
>Instead the faggots will tell you to pump vit so they rely more on tanking than being able to actually dodge because needless to say they're plebs who need to git gud
Those are some spicy assumptions
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>>167963868
Didn't even have a shield equipped when I went to DaS3, felt like wasted weight (much like the whole game itself)
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>>167967742
>Doesn't do CRFs or PvP

>>167967927
>Is going to shelf the game after trying CRFs and PvP
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>>167966579
>>167966826
Is it really that rare? She spends most of my game either sleeping or praying at that tombstone. Especially after I beat Vicar Amelia for some reason.
Her voice is really sexy.
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>>167967742
You know stamina runes exist, right? And stamina management?
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>>167968980
I like it
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>>167968889
PvP sucks on Bloodborne just like any other souls game.
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Can I get some help with Mich on NG, ringing at base lantern
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>>167968898
>He doesn't use tons of END + stamina runes and stamina management
I bet you farm for off shapes too, faggot.
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>>167967742
How to get more points to redistribute for your carefully planned competitive BL97 build
>Use the points you would have invested in Vit elsewhere
>Don't get hit
>Just don't get hit guys, works every time
>D O N T G E T H I T
>J U S T D O N ' T G E T F U C K I N G H I T G U Y S A M I R I T E ?
>I bet you thought it said Don't get hit. Congratulations, you played yourself

Tl;Dr Anything over 29END is overkill, dont forget 5, 10 or 15% anticlock runes bump that shit up
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Best glyph for rock and chunk farming?
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>>167969072
Called it
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>>167969419
ptwrx6tb
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>>167967742
>Everyone knows you're vit is non-existent
>Trade their 900 damage unzip with your R1 and one shot you every single fight
>"J-just don't get hit guys"
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>>167969072
>Bloodborne is comparable to Souls
>~25 weapons each with about 150 three-move-combos
Vs
>~150 weapons each with about 25 three-move-combos

You need to go back
>>>/dsg/
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Hey guys, how's my build?

Hope to see you all at the FC tomorrow night! :3
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>>167969603
I'm talking about the shitty netcode and don't pretend it is good.
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>>167969557
he already doesn't do pvp, so he's probably a high level shitter anyways. Or just a master b8er. I imagine what's next is mass replying to everyone who gave him (you)s to call them bad.
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>>167969773
Put blunts in the LHB and just keep swinging, sooner or later people will walk into it.
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You're going to need to try harder if you want a (you) out of me.
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>>167969550
Thanks.
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»implying the axe isn't the best weapon

https://youtu.be/Ranfc0E_DN0

the damage and range is ridiculous
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>>167969773
you're missing your harrowed set, bro.
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@167969903
Who do you mean?
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>>167969204
Ty, I forgot about cheesing him at the mirror
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You know who I mean, Bob. Gotta have some quality bait lying around, right?
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>>167969892
>farming
I'm just gonna use the Mesis gems and show you guys how pointless gem farming is!

>>167969990
Where do I get that?
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>>167969783
Then you shoulda specified the 'shitty' netcode, which is mediocre at best. Mainly because it's a 2 year old game. The netcode is as good as intended when lots of people are gathered in an area, such as in our weekly FC. At that point, any lag is clientside.
You. Your tha beast, stranger
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>>167969903
>>167970014
>>167970107
You'll go into withdrawal. Here's (you)r daily allotment.
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>>167970129
Reported for shitposting
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>>167967614
Yes. In many ways they're superior to Beast's Embrace Claws. The R1 spam is ridiculously fast and nothing can escape it.
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>>167969989
It's bretty gud.
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>>167969989
Story Amy is piss ez though, even 20 Arc Exe gloves does quicker work of her.
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the arc build I'm using is letting me go 50 vit 50 arc and use the stake driver, church pick, and Ludwigs. it's he'll dealing with shitty gems for now, but I hope it's worth it in the end
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>haven't touched Souls since DS3 DLC
>try to pick up DS3 again
>suddenly find it tiresome and dull
>go back to BB
>it's still absolutely fucking brilliant and engrossing
Explain this
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>>167970014
Because /bbg/ is so chill, ima help you out Redditfag

Its
>For greentext

>>For after a post number to reply, not @

>>>To send someone to a different board

{spoiler} Super hidden message {/spoiler} but with [] instead of {}

97 is the meta over here, damnsite better than 150, but you are gonna need some better runes

Friday is Spelunking club, Saturday is Fight Club

If you are asking for a summon of our guys, say 'Praise Hibiki' in the post and a great one will beat the boss for you, no questions asked

And don't ever reply to somebody with a unique name and code in the name field, that is a tripfag


Oh and screenshot this, nobody will extend this amount of kindness to you ever again
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>>167960327
>>167962427
>you will never save gascans ;-;
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>>167967614
Kind of.
They are pretty good, but you won't really be building much beasthood with them on anything except bosses.
Almost all enemies besides hunters will get stunlocked by R1 so equip good stamina runes or level your END. It's worth it for vanilla beast claws anyway so you can stunlock and kill anything, and actually building beasthood will take so many R1 presses that you will want those extra swings anyway.
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>>167970606
You can get yourself some 16% Fires in Lower Pthumeru. They'll be enough til FRCs.

>I hope it's worth it in the end
Ultimately it'll be on you. The archetype is probably second best for PvE and third best for PvP. The thing is you're doing, generally, less damage per R1 for the use of Tools. If you don't use Tools, and so combat for you boils down to footsies and R1-ing, you're basically arbitrarily making the game harder.

If you like micromanaging and using tools then Arc is really rewarding.
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>>167970862
See>>167969603

That basically sums it up in 2 points. Add on the better soundtrack, more varied enemy and boss type and lack of a meta because most, if not all weapons are viable and POW, you have Bloodborne.
Just hope Misaki doesn't fuck the next on up
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>This thread

I want old /bbg/ back.
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>>167970862
Same reason everyone else is still playing it, it's the best Souls game.

Some current stats:
>Dark/Demon Souls General: 91 posters
>Witcher General: 26 posters (2015 GOTY everywhere)
>Bloodborne General: 82 posters
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>>167971279
It's never coming back and you know it.
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>>167971279
I still dream of Benjie
Accept your death, anon.
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>>167963805
A night of curses, a night to remember
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>tfw there's probably more people going back to DaS2 than there are people currently playing DaS3
Why was DaS3 so shit?
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>>167971279
All around me are unfamiliar faces
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>>167971279
>one faggot shitposts
>man /bbg/ used to be so much better than that :(
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>>167971594
game relied a lot on "spectacle" bosses that look cool and do cool shit on your first playthrough but become a chore and boring on future games. game was really short and stamina management was made not really important since rolls cost no stamina. felt like ds1 but worse
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>>167971515
He's the smartest of us all, he fucked off before everything went to shit and to bang his wife and play with his kids.
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>>167971515
>You will never watch benjie's streams again
>You will never laugh every time you watch yourself parry him from his perspective and he rages about how bullshit parrying is
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>>167971781
>one faggot shitposts
There was also the few PvE babies circlejerking eachother but generally this thread hasn't been too bad.
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>>167971907
Always destroyed my sides
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>>167971954

>bragging about being a Souls/BB PVP player

LEL. Got frame traps, 1 frame links, tick throws, mixups, resets, setups, oki, footsies etc in BB? I'm laffin'. It's a PVE game shitter. /fgg/ sends its regards.
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>>167971836
He's the true Great One of /bbg/
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>>167971279
I miss the old mudpit in pthumarian we used to pvp in, it was so comfy.
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>Beast Cutter used by the old hunters
>mile wide range, neat moveset, sickass blood effect that trails behind it at all times

>Beast Cutter used by you
>short piece of shit

why
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>>167972283
Do we still have the glyph for that? That was fun as fuck
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>>167972283
Why was it changed?
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>>167972402
>he doesn't use it as password for unimportant stuff

6cb7ieyy
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>>167971594
It was a contractual obligation that relied on nostalgia trips rather than bringing anything new to the table. It impleneted weak ass new mechanics that are of barely any worth and were clearly all an afterthought. It ironically and almost thematically ended up like its own setting - old, tired and falling apart, a repetitious cycle that hurts to continue.
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>>167972352
Because they're big guys
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>>167972352
have you tried tricking it
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>>167972352
Because they go BLOOOOD NOW when they swing it
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>>167972602
YOU
VILE
BEAST
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>>167972708
>you will never acquire this beauty
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which moves from which weapons have the greatest rally potential?
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>>167973624
Check the guide.
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>>167973468
You can't handle my hat hoonter, my hat is too large for you
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>>167974143
You can't handle my biggest hats, hunter! My biggest hats would drive even the most stalwart hunters blood-drunk.

You're a rascal, hat seller. You're a rascal.
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>do a frc chalice
>the last boss is ebrietas
>360° tentacle swings
>shark like jumps with her tentacles hitting too
>random arcane shield which does damage over time like posion
>720° tentacle swings
>frenzy puke spam
>her weirdly shaped body making her drag you with her when she turns around because of the T-Rex arm like tentacles on her sides
>head slam which you always have to bait out in order to do actual damage
>1080° tentacle swings
>her one shotting arcane stars
I don't like her
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>>167973468
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>>167974391
My hats are only for the strongest of necks yours is obviously of the weakest!
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>>167973468
>>167975102
Helo, Miyaziki? Can I have big hat pls?
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>>167974503
>Bowblade
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>>167975343
I'm on a 50 Str/ 25 Skl character :/
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Ayy boys, I've done an Arcane build with Tonitrus and Wheel, would a skill build with the Blades of Mercy be more fun than doing that again? Anything unique I can do with it?
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>>167975960
Skl is the easiest build to make. 10 Blt let's you use Rifle Spear, Bowblade and Reiter. Military Vet 25/50 Str/Skl is optimal for every Skl weapon.
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>>167976117
How about an Arc/Skl build?
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>>167976249
And what weapon do you want to use?
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>>167975960
Blades of Cutting are the objective worst weapon in the game when you find out that the Wooden shield is a very viable, very hard counter to them
Try Rakuyo, Saif, Pick, Burial Meme, Rifle spear, Whip, Reiter or untricked Bowblade for a Skl build
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>>167976249
There are no Skl/Arc weapons. You can go 50/50 Skl/Arc for Pure Skill weapons and some Tool damage but it's not recommended. Str/Arc is more common.
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>>167972168
>/fgg/
Gee Scoob, I wonder what this clue means
Rike, Roinks Raggy, rat rere ris rery reak rait! Rom a red game reneral rin a red ranchise!
Z-Zoinks Scoob, your right!
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>>167976302
>>167976421
What's the arc scaling on Blades of Mercy and Burial Blade then?
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>>167976859
Don't bother with them on an Arc build, both the scaling and base Arc damage on them makes them horrible Arc weapons. Plus being split doesn't help them.
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>>167976859
A lore implication
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>>167976859
.69, IIRC.
The scaling isn't the problem. The shit base damage is.
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>>167976859
I meant what's it for?
Since it's so high and you can't convert it to elemental damage, so i thought it must just scale regularly with arc.
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>>167977080
What do you mean what it's for?
It's so that the weapon deals ARC damage. Also removes the ability to convert it or apply elemental paper.
>so i thought it must just scale regularly with arc.
What does scale regularly even mean? They do scale regularly.
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>>167977080
What >>167977012 said, they're made of some special rock. Probably to keep them from being buffed to. The Arc on them is not high.
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>>167977080
>>167977289
Buff prevention. Also, they gain incredibly modifiers on dash attacks, that shwing sound is specific to them.
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>>167976339
I mean, that much is true, but I've used pretty much all of those weapons. The only ones there I haven't touched are the Pick and Bowblade.

You have to beat Ludwig to get the pick, right?
>>
Bloodborne has ruined me. Started DS3 lately and I'm finding it difficult to get used to the slower, more defensive combat.
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Anyone wanna help me with FRC Ebrietas? I gave up. BL 98, PW: fkebry
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>>167979523
Maybe you should switch to DMC or games like that. Or bullethell.
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>>167979523
I feel you, I got in the mood to play through DS1 again but lost the feeling as soon as I started actually playing
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>>167979680
On my way anon.
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>fighting rom
>spiders projectile goes through roms body and hits me on the other side
fucking why
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>>167979689
Pfft not at all. Just taking e a whole to get used to Souls again. It's just that BB is my favourite in From's series at this stage.

>>167979694
Keep at it anon, it'll come back.
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>>167979941
I've always found Rom a pain in the arse compared to bosses like OOK and all.
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>>167979680
Still ringing? Im not finding anything.
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>>167979523
Eh at least it's the quickest DS game. Try out weapons with a quickstep WA like Thrall Axe or something.
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>>167980235
Nah, I'm good. I'm just saying It's difficult to get back into the Souls type of combat as the BB combat is so much faster, but I'm getting used to it again.
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>>167980109
Still ringing. Maybe I'm completely retarded now and wrote the wrong password but I changed it to 'beniss' now. Don't know if that will change anything.
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>>167980495
Ok searching again.
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>>167979941
Just use strats.
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>>167980495
Did you share the chalice?
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>>167976339
>Blades of Cutting are the objective worst weapon in the game

Not against NPC hunters and Keeper of the Old Lords

Nothing better than stacking stamina runes and EZ to get +Arc Brainsucker gems and R1'ing those fagles to death in a few mindless exchanges
>>
Isn't there any to cheat to for blood echoes except fot the one soltuion where you have to reinstall your gmae without the patch (I have don't have a physical copy so dowloaded the whole game again is out of the question)

I want to do my third build but damn just thinking about the whole process of reaching lvl 120 again is depressing me.
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>>167981049
It just takes like 3 hours or so.
Stop being a shitter.
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>>167980896
>I'm retarded and Eby has melted my brain
Shared it now. Ringing again. Sorry for wasting that much time.
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>>167981049
Go through Chalice Dungeons with Runes that give more echoes. Layer 3 Isz ayys are gud. Not really cheating but I don't think there's any glitch for echoes.
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While we are talking about the BB is there any way to make it work with a arcane build?

I think i saw some guy on reddit saying that flat arcane gems would be the best ones.
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>>167980896
Fuck me
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>>167980630
Holy...

I actually want to fight Rom now
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>>167981325
BB with flat gems would give you a little over 300 arc damage with 50 arc with negligible split physical damage. It's bad enough that it's probably not something you should do unless you don't mind missing out on a ton more damage.
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>>167981545
Sorry that was scrubby of me
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>>167981997
No problem, I fucked up too. Wanna try again? I'm ringing.
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Anybody wanna do Cleric Beast with me? I'm rusty as fuck and don't wanna die instantly to this thing- ringing in Central Yharnam, pass is 'celery'
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>>167981325
No, Reddit doesn't know shit. BB and BoM with Flat Arc is terrible for PvP, okay for PvE but there's better options.
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>>167981997
Thank you
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>>167981049
Ailing Loran first room, piss easy
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>>167983013
You welcome anon
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Wanna go assfuck Gascoigne this time? Ringing again
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>>167963659
>doll lookalike
u wot
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>>167983428
Ringing
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Name your next character
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>>167983428
At Central Yharnam of course, pass is still 'celery'
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I just got a radial nourishing abyssal from Isz Amygdala with HP drain -9
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Anyone up to help with One Reborn in Yahar'gul? Password is bbg
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>>167984280
Ringing at fog
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>>167984250
>HP drain
into the trash it goes
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>>167984490
>died to vomit
I want to die, that was pathetic
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>>167984490
Thanks anon!
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>>167985204
I can help in next area too if you need
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>>167983918
Sorry about the delay in getting there, was doing something on another character
Good hunting
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>>167954543
Micholash is literally the host of the nightmare.
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>>167985296
Naw it's good, id rather do the nightmare on my own
>>
Anyone doing any Abyssal farming?
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>>167911916
>can't do a thing
>being informed how to do a thing
>gets mad
?????
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>>167985302
You're fantastic, my man. Anybody wanna escort my stupid ass through Old Yharnam? I'm looking to grab the Rifle Spear.
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>>167986690
you can run and grab it in like 15s upon entering old yharnam
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>>167986690
Ringing at first lantern
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Are Bowblade and Reiter worth using without high BLT?

>>167987235
Sorry man, went and did it myself.
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>>167986690
Still ringing?
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>>167987740
Yes, the Reiter is actually better as a SKL weapon. The BLT only affects the shots.
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>>167985547
It's a mistranslation. "Host" as in "master" or "caretaker". Not "Host" as in "this nightmare is taking place inside my brain and you're warping in like Inception".
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>>167988061
I wouldn't call it a mistranslation.If you kill the host of a party the building doesn't collapse.
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So what kinda build is the gatling gun any good on? Is it a pure STR weapon that only gets marginal damage boosts from BLT? Do you have to build around it with certain runes?
>>
>>167987740
Reiter is basically a skill weapon with a bonus blt scaling. Even at the 10 blt requirement the gun has an ar of over 300 with gems, which is better than the repeating pistol without bone marrow.
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>>167989384
Anything that can equip it. You mostly use it as a finisher.
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ok what in the fuck is the deal with the Abhorrent Beast? He literally autotracks me when I try dodging to his side and his reach is christfucking unbelievable. What is le epic secret to le Left to le Left Beyonce secret? Also, he's unparryable. he makes Loran BSB look like god damn One Reborn
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>>167989641
He also gets poisoned with one knife, so you can combine that with this strategy.
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reminder not to reply to tripfags
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ROM is probably one of the easiest bosses in the game.
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>>167989641
There's no quick cheese secret to Abhorrent Beast, really. Use the tells from the incoming attacks and dodge. He tends to swipe more than once on certain attacks, so it helps to dodge twice, till you're almost behind him. Often times, a single dodge won't keep you safe.
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>>167989986
>There's no quick cheese secret to Abhorrent Beast

Yes, there is. Just dodge through his extend-o-punch and smack him in the mouth.
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>>167989986
Moonlight beam to face repeatedly is pretty fast so there's that cheese strat.
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>>167990362
Moonbeams to the face is fast against anything though, so I wouldn't exactly call that a cheese strat.
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>>167989641
Abhorrent Beast is pretty easy to dodge, just look out for the explosion punch.
>>167989986
You can use the Saw Cleaver with fire paper and bbp for a quick kill.
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>>167990586

no, he fucking isn't. I dodge the second he does the attack, and immediately after. It still autotracks my movement. I have NEVER had this much trouble with a boss. Im using a god damn +10 fire Church Pick and I'm still struggling. Why can't I parry him? Why the decide making it FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to parry this faggot was a good idea? He is literally impossible to dodge. Holy fuck I'm so mad
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>>167990728
He works on the same principle as large bosses. If you do enough damage to his head you will be able to visceral him.
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>>167990728
Abho only has a few different attacks. Almost all, if not all, of his chasedown moves (which are the ones you should be baiting) begin with a left-handed attack, so you should dodge to your 2 o' clock.

The couple moves he has that are actually hard to doge are the two quick one-two hooks he has and will spam if you stay next to him for too long.

>being a parry baby
ISHYGGDT
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>>167989641
Dodge into him for most of his attacks, and watch for his backswipe. You just have to figure out his timings
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>>167990728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoH8uJ-tCpg
Just watch and learn the timing through this
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>>167991026
>Craddoc
This guy is so annoying.
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so I'm farming for some ritual blood 4 by the bag man near lower pthumeru rom, and Im ringing to help on the off chance.

I get summoned behind the gate that's shut, and pop it open for them. didn't know you could do that
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>>167991026
Y-yeah, well, let's see him do that to an FRC Abho!

That feeling of accomplishment when you dance around an enemy's every move after hours of learning its attacks is so wonderful.
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>>167990728
>>167991026
Sticking to the right leg is safer to be honest. Dodge attack, 1-2 hits depending on what attack he does, dodge back, repeat.
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>>167991023
>>167991026

I can't do it. I just can't do it. I get him to do his three hit combo shit, jump in to attack, and then he just does a lightning-quick two hit combo to me. AND HE STILL JUST FUCKING AUTOTRACKS when I try to dodge clockwise around him. this is pure fucking misery. I don't know why I'm still playing this game. I'm just going to summon someone from here. Also, can he be backstabbed? Or is one of those le epic, NOPE git gud fag things that doesn't apply to him?
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>>167991385
>Do it my way guys not the way that dude just did without getting hit at BL4

>>167991479
I'll help you if you want m8.
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>>167991669

this is so god damn fucking frustrating. I've beaten tough bosses in this game by myself. But this is hands-down the cheapest fucking bullshit I've ever had to deal with. I honestly cannot believe this game right now.
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>>167991669
I literally did it at Bl4 without getting hit as well, first try too. Can't believe it took the guy 5 hours.
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>>167991893
Sorry, man, but you're just bad. Keep going at it and practicing. Try getting the timing down. AB isn't cheap bullshit at all.
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>>167991893
I really believe you're just too mad to see that you're making a simple error in your dodge trajectory or something. But I know what it's like when you can't see the forest from the trees so again, if you set a pass, I'll come in and help out. You can always solo him later.

You'll get another crack at him in Lower Loran
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>>167992028
>>167992209

I just summoned the retard AI hunter, got him down to 1/3 damage and then spammed Executioners Glove at him. Sometimes Im glad I chose a full ARC build. Appreciate the advice the guys. I will save it for the harder one. This is my first Souls game, so its been a struggle for me.
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>>167992348
Hope you have a better time with the next Abhorrent Beast, anon.
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>>167992348
BB's probably the hardest one too so you're definitely hitting the ground running.

Cheers on getting it done.

Have fun against the Camerabeast
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Can somebody help me with Laurence?
I'm BL76.
I don't know how summoning works, i've never done it before. Help please.
Also, i have a +8 Beast cutter, a +9 amy arm and a 9+ beast claws and 30/13 Str/Skl. Which one should i be using here?
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>>167992631
Oh boy.

Set a pass and I'll see what I can do.

I don't suppose you have at least 40 Vit?
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>>167992631
Beast Cutter is serrated, so you'll do more damage.
To summon, set a password and ring your Beckoning Bell at the fog or the lamp. You can technically ring anywhere, but it's easier for cooperators if you do it in these particular areas. Make sure to set it to Worldwide.
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>>167992749
I have 38
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>>167992438
>>167992508

Seriously though? When is the best time to dodge? Right when he attacks? The millisecond before he attacks? I did find I had better luck when I stuck to going counter-clockwise
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>>167992749
>>167992828
I'm at the fog gate.The pass is kill me.
It's worth noting that i don't have a good grasp of his 3rd phase, as i've only made it there once.
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>>167992860
I would honestly recommend coming back later. But if you're set on doing it now we can bang our heads against it for a while.

>>167993036
I wouldn't know how to explain it any better than that video shows it.

>>167993078
On my way. Basically keep your distance and move left.
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>>167993139
I'm at the end of the game, and i want my rune.
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>>167993036
Don't complicate this for yourself, anon. Dodge right before the attack hits you, as some of his moves are delayed and might throw you off. Panic dodging is a big no.
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QUICK BBG!!!! What's the most currently overpowered build PVE?
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>>167993606
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>>167993606
50/50 Quality or 99 Arc.
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Thanks man.
I still don't know how to gesture.
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>>167993910
Hit left on the touch pad my man

Right on the touchpad is personal affects, sort of a quick use menu, it's good to stick your lantern, monocle and bold hunter's marks on there for access
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hello bubba where can I farm the Blood Stone Chunk and the Bolt gems?
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>eye collectors
>drop pebbles
>pebbles look sort of like eyes
LORE????????
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>>167995270
Blood Chunks in main game, Upper Cathedral Ward werewolves. In CD's, ptwrx6tb farmed from bosses. Eye Runes increase chances of dropping. Lighthouse Hut lightning fish wizards in DLC for 20.3% Bolt Radials. Abhorrent Beast Abyssals when you get to FRC. Check OP for glyphs.
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>>167995559
Quite thrilling.
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>24 friends online
>Not a single one playing Nioh

Game might actually flop.
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>>167997830

i'd be playing it, if i could actually find a fucking physical copy near me. Until then, time to finish Bloodborne
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>>167997970
No character creation was the deal breaker for me. Probably pick it up used after the PvP gets implemented, especially if they add new character skins.
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>>167981049
We had some powerleveling a while ago for testing purposes.

> find a friend on bbg
> they equip Exevutioner rune
> they summon you via password
> find another friend on bbg
> they use Vileblood rune
> they are also level 544 (or as high as you can find)
> host summons them via password as well
> since opposing runes they are killable
> since echo drops are based on player level being 544 will give enough echoes to the other two people to level up from 10-100.

But it's mostly pointless because any viable PVP build needs to reach endgame anyway, and reaching any level under 150 before finishing Chalice's requires you to actively stop leveling.
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>>167997830

>tfw more excited for Nier
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>>167998557
Shes got a nice ass
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>doing chalices early (before shadows)
>get blb one hit away from death and then die
>next time pop pellets and papes and kill him in half the time
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what was meant by this?
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Decided to finally defeat the Moon Presence and do ng+. Maybe its because my Whirligig is fully upgraded, but its not as hard as I thought it would be.
Can we talk about Moon Presence's cutscene though? The boss itself might be easy as fuck, but goddamn if it didn't make an entrance.
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>>167999327
autismo
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>>167998557
That's because it's a better game my mane
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>tfw drunk as fuck
>tfw just realized Bloodborne was made for the PS4, and not the PS3

Is there anyone here who actually played Demon Souls? That shit has to be clunky as fuck now
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Does anyone have any good wallpapers (1920x1080)? All I can find is in-game ones on google and I prefer art and stuff
Bosses/Ludwig/Doll/Gehrman preferred but whatever you guys have would be appreciated
This is one of my favorite DS wallpapers

>>167999951
It's entrance cutscene is sooooo good dude, but yeah I still consider G-man the real final boss with how much more of a duel it is and how much easier Moony is

>>168000138
I've played a bit of Demon, haven't beaten it yet but I like it
Comparing it to Bloodborne in smoothness is
impossible though
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>>167999327
Holy Kosm hold me
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>>168000138
DeS aged better than what Dark Souls did
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>>168000217
I love the hunter boss fights this game has. Gascoigne, Gerhman, and Maria are some of the best boss fights in the whole of the series. Ludwig might just beat them though.
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>>168000138
It is obscenely clunky you'll feel awful playing it
>>168000217
R E A L wallpapers are probably stopped because size limit
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>>168000339
Oh yeah dude, the "1v1 duel" fights are easily my favorites in the series
There's just something about the raw, life or death honorable duel sort of feeling of those sorts of fights that make them so immensely fun and intense
Gehrman or Artorias was my favorite Souls/Bloodborne boss up until Orphan
My main issue with Orphan is that, while I can enjoy the simplicity of his design and I love his weapon, his overall design doesn't really make me like him as much as someone like Artorias (Orphan probably is my favorite fight gameplay wise though)
And yeah Ludwig is easily my highest-ranked monster boss, he's wonderful
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>>168000339
The NPC fights are great too, funny considering NPC fights in souls games were some of the shittiest "stunlock/backstab to win" bullshit there was, BB hoontah's feel like actual, vicious fights between superhuman warrior.
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What's up with all the Virgin Mary statues in Cainhurst? Is Jesus cannon in Bloodborne? Because Jesus was cannon in Demon's Souls so it's not that unlikely.
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>>168001390
Bloodborne was supposed to bet set in DeS universe so, probably.
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>>168001138
Especially when they start posing after they kill you like that one fucker in the Nightmare realm.
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>>168000951
I'm still mad we didn't get the placenta after defeating him. I love the Kos parasite, but I really wanted the placenta the moment I saw his moveset with it.
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>>168001390
It's likely just meant to echo real world art like that, give a sense of verisimilitude, they've already went to great lengths to work off of Gothic architecture.

Also what the fuck, tell me more.
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>>168001491
Fuck mang Edgar gave me such a hard time the first time around, eventually got pissed and shot him three times with a bone ashed cannon (this was back when the cannon only required 10 bullets per shot).

Wasn't until later that I figured out the trick was to shot him immediately after he finishes a roll towards you.
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Can you only be summoned for chalice dungeon bosses you've killed?
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>>168002113
In demon souls one of the NPC's says something along the lines of "she is no virgin Mary." Meaning DeS universe had a jesus religion going on.


Kek that is all, probably an oversight, like Molotov Cocktails in Bloodborne.
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Anyone up for some chalice dungeon co-op? I just got to layer 3 of Pthumeru Ihyll and I want to get it over with so I can get the BB theme. Password is fug
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>>168002253
Joining a chalice dungeon has up to three requisites:
-Standard chalices require that you have previously opened the area yourself at least once by performing the appropriate ritual
-Root dungeons require that you have opened the standard chalice at lest once, and have the Root chalice in your inventory
-Dungeons with additional Rites require that you have opened any dungeon with the Rite at least once by performing the appropriate ritual
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>>167983454
I can't be the only one that thinks Maria looks a LOT like the plain doll, but 9000% more violent.
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>>168002956
Gehrman created the Doll in Maria's image
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if I'm using the HMS for purely the arc damage should I use the normal or the lost variant?
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>>168002956
That's the point. Gerhman made the Doll to replace her since he wanted to bone her back in the day.
And they have an odd connection, since the Doll mentions feeling free from heavy shackles after you kill Maria.
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>>168003018
>>168003120
So Gehrman was so into Maria that he made a waifu in her image? "Hunter's Dream" indeed.
I'll just ignore that one soundbite where gehrman really wants to get out of the dream
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>>168003169
Lawrence fucked Gerhman over, man. First he gave him over to the Moon Presence, then he lied and said he'd come back, and then he got his head lopped off.
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>when you get killed by obvious bullshit because you were too glazed over from overconfidence
Bloodborne is probably the one game that makes feel >pic related more than any other, other than other Souls games
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>>168002727
>BB theme
Bloodborne has a theme? How do i get it?
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>>167915771
Sony definitely has something lined up with From to make their next big Souls game, but I'd say the chances of it being Bloodborne 2 are like 15%
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>>168003432
It really depends on what Miyazaki is nerding out over when he finally decides.
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>>168003279
Laurance didn't do that.
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>>168003279
>headcannon the post
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>>168003559
He's the only one that could have. Willem was busy with literally farming eyes while the Healing Church was making contact with the Great Ones. Someone gave Gerhman to the MP, and Lawrence is the only one who had motive to do it.
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>>168003279
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>>168003678
Yes, because Gerhman couldn't have been in touch with any Great Ones any other way, say for example Kos.
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>>168003559
>>168003593
>>168003704
>>168003825
Not that anon, but there is literally a note in the Lecture Building that talks about "The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates."
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>>168002727
still here?
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>>168004006
But where's the note that says Gherman was given over to the MP by anyone?
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>>168003348
Get the platinum trophy.
There's also another one of the hunter's dream that you can buy.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/themes/bloodborne-hunter's-dream-dynamic-theme/cid=UP9000-CUSA00900_00-BLOODBORNEHUNTD1
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>>168003348
Apparently by getting all the trophies, all I need is the Queen Yharnam trophy

>>168004023
Yeah I just got killed by Queen Yharnam
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>>168004315
SRRCing then
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>>168004292
>>168004315
well shit, i thought people were only getting Platinum for bragging rights
Now I've gotta get on that
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>>168004482
What trophies are you missing?
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>>168001765
yeah I was really hoping that's what Kos Parasite was when I got it but was sad to have
>tfw no placenta weapon
it definitely would've been hard to scale down to a character-moveset and wouldn't have worked as well without the umbilical cord being attached but it still would've been hella
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>>168004609
For main game Bloodborne:
Hunter's Essence (Acquire all hunter weapons.)
Hunter's Craft (Acquire all special hunter tools.)
and two Hidden Trophies
For The Old Hunters:
Old Hunter's Essence (Acquire all old hunter weapons.)

I guess that means I have to get all of them on a single character.
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>>168004413
Once you died it all went to shit, you wanna try again?
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>>168005110
I'll keep trying
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>>168005243
We done did it, thanks for help!
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So if you chose to withhold information when Adella asks for a safe place in Yahar'gul she says she'll just ask her acquaintance in the Cathedral Ward and see if "he will open the door" for her.

Who is she talking about? Who is her acquaintance in Cathedral Ward? Could it be she was talking about Amelia and they messed up the unisex pronoun like in the old hunter bone?
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Should i be leveling strength if i intend to use the bloodletter on my bloodtinge build?
I would rather level Skl to use some different weapons from my last build, but if strength affects the bloodletter a lot, i will stick to that.
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>>168005587
Maybe it was the whore
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>>168006000
No. Untricked scales with STR alone, and tricked with BLT alone.
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>>168005587
No, she wasn't talking about anyone that the player interacts to.
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I was an anon that asked if it was worth to buy a ps4 for this game a couple threads back. Just finished it and don't really know how where I would rank it among the souls games. I liked it but at the same time felt pretty underwhelmed I guess. I think it's because I played DaS3 before playing this. A lot of the areas and enemies feel really similar so nothing really blew me away.

For Example:
Yharnam = Lothric
Undead Settlement = Hemwick Lane
Forbidden Woods = Road of Sacrifices, Farron Keep
Lecture Building = Grand Archive

I know they're not exactly the same but they just felt so damn similar, like I had already seen everything once before. The area that really stood out to me was Byrgenwerth and of course it just had to be the smallest one in the game. All the other areas felt like they could have been in a souls game except for Byrgenwerth.

/blog

Anyways is the DLC a must have?
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>>168008080
>Anyways is the DLC a must have?
Absolutely, easily the best DLC From made.
You really shouldn't have played DaS3 before BB, though DaS3 was littered with BB reskins and rejected enemies
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>>168008170
I played DaS3 first, and liked BB way better.
DaS3 was so boring, i have no idea how they could fuck with the formula so badly.
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>>168008080
>I know they're not exactly the same but they just felt so damn similar

Funny you should say so, because DaS3borrows heavily from Bloodborne in that respect. In fact, before DaS3 came out, /bbg/ would sometimes half-joke, half-hope that DaS3 was a stealth bloodborne sequel. We knew there was quickstepping, we saw concept art of the corrupted beasts and Yuria (the former resembling Cleric Beast, the latter resembling Cainhurst attire) and how those were implented was a hell of a lot less interesting thsn we thought, or wanted. You're for finding them similar, but from the other way around. What did you think of the Nightmare Frontier and Nightmare of Mensis?

Also, the DLC is absolutely must have, adds three new areas, several weapons and five bosses, some of the best From have made.
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I rushed the game ignoring half of the dlc to get the Benis Blade. How difficult is it going to be? BL45 working my way to BSB
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>>168008801
They borrowed so heavily from BB, they essentially made BB in the Souls context. They were also working on it since AotA (if we take Chester to be a preview of coming attractions), and had the luxury of being able to do something new, not putting coats of paint over something old to try to fool people into thinking it was new
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>>168009363
Just grab it from the dungeons, you don't need to fight Gehrman
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>>168009476
The deed was already done anon, and i dont have ps+ anyway
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>>168009001
Yeah now that I've played BB I can see just how much 3 took from it. I bet BB players felt the same way about 3 when it first game out.

As for the areas, I hated the Frontier but I loved Mensis. The Frontier was just the classic From swamp area with some really lame enemies. Mensis was great though, the weird glowing light at the beginning was pretty unsettling and I loved the atmosphere of the whole area. I'm looking forward to learning more about the lore in this game. I'm still completely fucking clueless about what happened throughout the game.
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>>167953040
why does he have no eyes?
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>>168009997
Try piecing the lore together yourself, mostly through bits of dialogue, item descriptions, and the like. You'll get a hundred different answers about the lore here, so tread carefully. But before any of that, get the DLC, it will clear up a great deal in regards to the lore. The Chalices also give a bit of insight to certain matters
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>>168009997
The winter lanterns and crawling enemies in Frontier are cool as fuck
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>>168000951
I love Orphan's design. All I could think was "Jesus Christ, what a nightmarish creature" after my first encounter with him. I just love how you can see him start to act frustrated and desperate in phase 2. Those cries for mother's help when he summons the lightning...
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>>168000951
IMO Gehrman is the best boss fight ever put in a videogame
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Blind run first time ever BB player here. Without spoilers, am I fucking up investing my points purely into strength, then endurance (until 20), then Vitality? I'm using the Kirkhammer +3 this far. Is this weapon a waste to keep pumping blood shards into? I.e. are there any non viable weapons in this game? Do I NEED a secondary weapon? I mean the Kirkhammer in non trick mode is quick enough. Is 2 trick weapons common in BB?
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>>168000138
I played DeS on release, so I have no idea how it feels now. Probably not good, I imagine it will feel almost turn-based after BB.
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>>168012621
That is fine.
You will want to grab the cannon if you are doing a strength build.
It gives you large amounts of free damage on bosses. Use some ash and then down on the D-pad and you can fire it twice for big damage.
I won't tell you about where it is, so if you want it, look it up or hope you find it yourself.
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>>168011727
That's Ludwig for me
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>>168011727
Gehrman has a fantastic setpiece, music and context, making him the best final boss for sure. But if we're talking hunter enemies, gameplay-wise I kinda prefer Maria's fight.

Gehrman became a complete pushover after my first walkthrough, I haven't died to him once in over a year. He's a very fair boss for a newcomer but everyone in the DLC is just on another level.
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>>168012621
You're not fucking up, that's perfectly fine. Kirk is good, all STR based weapons are viable so feel free to use whatever catches your fancy. You don't NEED a secondary per se, but most people have one. There's a lot of good weapons to choose from and enough materials to upgrade the secondary to a respectable level.
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Ok, so i just finished the game for the first time, and i understand everything about the blood and eyes, the moon presence forcing Gehrman to live in the hunters dream forever, other hunters completing their Hunt and killing a great one and then being let out of the dream by Gehrman.
I understand the stuff about the nightmare of Mensis and the hunters nightmare and how the people there are already dead, and this is a pocket dimension where they stay forever.

But what i don't understand is how the Hunt works.
You get trapped in the dream, finish your duty, and then Gehrman kicks you out, and you forget it ever happened.
So did that stuff actually happen? Is the Hunt reset for the next Hunter? Or do they just kill a different great one? Is it like a time loop?
Are beasts and aliens still around when Gherman releases you? Or are you put into a time when that shit is over?
Everything else i could understand, but this is never really explained.
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>>168013883
time is convoluted in yharnam
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>>168013883
Events of the game are neither a dream nor a time-loop, they happen in the "real" world and have never happened before. Other hunts have, like Djura's in Old Yharnam and whatever Eileen did, but not the same one. And it's all quite real.
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>>168013883
>and you forget it ever happened
You don't, nobody does.
>So did that stuff actually happen? Is the Hunt reset for the next Hunter? Yes unless you kill the Moon Presence.
>Are beasts and aliens still around when Gherman releases you?
Yes, they were around long before the hunt was a thing, visit Loran and Isz.
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>>168013883
I imagine not every hunt ends with Mensis sacrificing an entire town for a Nightmare, Great Ones descending, and a hunter killing a nightmare newborn. Like some NPCs like the Chapel Dweller indicate the hunt of Bloodborne was a unique series of events.
Based on everything being sunshine and rainbows when you take the Submit Your Life ending I assumed that killing Mergo resulted in the ayys fucking off and any remaining beasts will be cleaned up.
Everything does actually happen, the only thing that the Hunter loses is their memory of the night and having access to the dream, which in turn means no more revival after death for the hunter.
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>>168014498
Its actually likely that the Hunter doesn't lose their memory of the night or at least it comes back over time. Many former hunters you meet recall their access to the Hunter's Dream.
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>>168014498
>and a hunter killing a nightmare newborn
There's no evidence that more than one nightmare newborn ever existed
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>>168014151
How does Gehrman decide when you're done?
I find it hard to belive Djura and Eileen killed eldrich gods.

>>168014357
So what was that stuff about forgetting that Gehrman was talking about?

I have another question about Rom.
When you kill it, does it shatter the illusion of what the world looks like, or does it just give you enough insight to see how things really are?
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>>168014652
I wasn't saying there was or at least not intentionally with the "a".
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>>168014695
>So what was that stuff about forgetting that Gehrman was talking about?
Figure of speech, it means "leaving it behind".
>When you kill it, does it shatter the illusion of what the world looks like
This.
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>>168014695
Killing Rom just coincided with Mensis finishing the ritual and summoning the red moon. I don't think it was a trigger in a story sense (obviously it is in a game progression sense). Its also very much possible knowing of it and killing it opened your mind to always see some things that were always there like Amygdala's from that point.
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>>168014695
Mensis called upon the red moon at the time Rom dies and Rom allows you to comprehend and see what was always hidden in plainsight.
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>>168014814
>The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals, and keeps our lost master from us. A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably
By Mensis. Rom was concealing the red moon and limiting its effect on Yharnam.
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>>168014939
Ahhh right, I forgot about that piece of lore. So killing Rom allowed the ritual to complete.
So our wild curiosity actually made everything worse.
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>>168015016
>So our wild curiosity actually made everything worse.
Yep. The Good Hunter is the reason almost everything post-Rom happens.
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>>168015016
>But beware, secrets are secrets for a reason.
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>>168015237
Open the door man, I know secret shit
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>Me killing Rom resulted in an entire village being sacrificed to a ritual, a woman I led to safety being impregnated with a nightmare child, and more Great Ones descending
And I thought the questline with Gascoigne's family made me feel like shit.
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>>168015513
Rom wasn't even hostile to you, or really ever fights you directly.
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>>168014939
>tfw I first interpreted "Byrgenwerth spider" being Patches when if anything he would be the Mensis spider
God I feel fucking retarded.
>>168015619
>M8 don't hit me, you have no fucking idea what will happen if I die
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>>168015513
At least the baby is dead now.
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>>168015785
You can keep it as a souvenir too.
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>>168015619
Now everytime I don't immediately attack it and it looks at me I'm gonna interpret as "please don't"
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>>168015513
>>168015619
>>168015663
>>168015887
I guess Willem is a huge asshole, since he just sits there and points you in the direction to kill Rom.
Speaking of which, why did he even want that?
I'm really disappointed that Willem does nothing. He should have become something or disappeared and implied that he finally became a Great One.
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>>168016230
>Speaking of which, why did he even want that?
Probably because you finding Rom > Mensis finding it.
Also he was too much of an ass to make it, he deserved to become a retarded vegetable.
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>>168016316
But he doesn't like Mensis, right?
They are different schools because they belive in different things.
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>>168015513
>>168016230
Laurence is the real shithead of the lore. If he listened to Willem in the first place nothing in Bloodborne would be possible.
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>>168016541
Mensis is basically what became of the Scholars of Byrgenwerth that were obsessed with the knowledge of Great Ones and especially ascension. Willem warned of both that and the use of blood as a universal solvent of medicine (which resulted in the beast's curse)
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>>168016541
Nobody likes Mensis.
I believe that Mensis scholars were the original Byrgenwerth scolars that passed to the church (which is why they wear the original garb and own the Nightmare Lecture Building), whereas Choir members are posthumous scholars raised by the church to study ascension and insight with Willem's theory.
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>>168016230
It could be that Willem is the "lost master" referred to in >>168014939, in which case he might be there against his will because of Rom. So maybe he wants you free him or some shit.

Or that message is referring to Micolash or somebody else entirely and has nothing to do with Willem. Who knows.
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So if Bloodborne isn't a time loop, then how come the "night carries on forever"?
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>>168016682
I thought Choir members were just high ranking members of the church that directly contacted with Great Ones (or more specifically the one they have stowed away in the Upper Cathedral)
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>>168016704
Because the use of blood will inevitably result in a beast outbreak. So the night of the hunt will always return.
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>>168016738
They are, but unlike the rest of the Church they used insight instead of blood and followed Willem's teaching and ethos, which is why they wear a blindfold.
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>>168016682
I like Mensis.
>tfw no Mensis rune/covenant
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>>168016813
>followed Willem's teaching and ethos, which is why they wear a blindfold
Ah right, very true.
>Our eyes are yet to open
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>>168016791
Oh, okay. I took it literally, but that makes sense.
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>>168016871
Their set also mentions their relationship with Willem.
>Members of the Choir are both the highest-ranking clerics of the Healing Church, and scholars who continue the work that began at Byrgenwerth
>The eye covering indicates their debt to the teachings of Master Willem, even though their paths diverged
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>>168016813
>Always hated the bitch choir member in Byrgenwerth
>Shes actually completely justified in trying to prevent me from opening the Lunarium door
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>>168016864
You get a nice head cage though.
I liked the Micolash boss fight.
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>>168016968
From definitely loves their "force you to be the asshole" situations.
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>>168016864
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>>168016929
I think it could be literal as well. A lot of people see the red moon as a representation or manifestation of the Moon Presence, and if that's correct then it could probably stick around indefinitely.
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>Lore hour with /bbg/
I always love our lore talks
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>>168017000
I liked it as well. I always look forward to bullying Micolash on each run through the game.
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How rare of a drop is a arcane triangle while farming watchers in Isz?
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>>168005587
I thought that she might be referring to the gatekeeper guy to forbidden woods.
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>>168018281
The gatekeeper is long dead Anon.
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>>168018553
Yet perfectly capable of speaking and demanding passwords.
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>>168018702
he had enough eyes
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>>168018553
So was Micolash and every other cagehead.
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>>168016704
>>168016791
Additionally, the Great Ones seem to have control over the duration of the night of the hunt. As I understand it, the night of the hunt (or at least the blood moon) always fortells the birth of a Great One, and will not end until the birth.
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>>168018864
I agree on the blood moon fortelling the birth of a Great One, not so much a night of the hunt. To our knowledge the blood moon wasn't exactly a common occurrence nor did it coincide with a hunt.
I actually wonder if shits been fucked before by a blood moon or if this was the first time. I feel like lore and NPCs would mention if a blood moon had occurred in the past.
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So it's basically confirmed that the Ludwig you meet in the Hunters Nightmare is a fake and that Ludwig is actually the Cleric Beast on the bridge, right?
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>>168019195
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>>168019195
Fuck off Vaati.
I thoroughly enjoy watching From BTFO'ing you with the DLCs.
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>Soothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmH-unczPY
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>>168019423
Sounds soothing to me.
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>>168019726
AWAY BRAINSUCKER
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Somebody, help me... unshackle me, please anybody... I've had enough of this dream... The memes block all sight... Oh, somebody, please...
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Cloaked beasts are kind of cute looking. I wish I could hug them. Maybe Djura was right all along
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>>168016964
And Willem was right all along. Those who successfully ascended (Rom) did so via insight granted by a or the Great Ones. Ascension through blood resulted in beasts and while Mensis understand the first method is the successful one their method instead of being chosen was trying to force communication. We know what that entailed.
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So why do hunter corpses disappear when you kill them
They dont even fucking dream how is that possible
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So whats the lore explanation for all the big people in this game?
Even people who aren't transformed or starting to turn tower over the Playable Character.
Is it a trait of Yharnamites, or did Miyazaki just want them to be intimidating and didn't think about it very hard?
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>>168020565
They go to the nightmare instead

Thats right; when you kill them, you sentence them to an eternity of slow, painful deaths
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>>168020783
>did Miyazaki just want them to be intimidating and didn't think about it very hard?
He's literally gone on record saying that he likes bosses to be bigger than the player character because it looks more epic that way, so yeah.
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>>168020908
I think that's a good thing, but i wish he could have just bullshitted a reason for it.
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>>168020848
Only old hunters go to the nightmare, because of the curse put on them for what happened at the hamlet.
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>>168021565
Blood-crazed/drunk hunters are also condemned there. Of any period.
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>>168021565
Considering Simon's dying words, I think it's safe to say that anyone who has the Hunter's Mark transcribed on their soul is damned to the nightmare before you solve the problem.
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New thread guys
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>>168023810
are you retarded
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>>168023810
>he thinks we're at bump limit
You need more eyes.
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>>168023810
What are you doing
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Reminder the doll sees you only as a baby who needs taking care of and will not be your waifu.
You WILL have your console unplugged by her when it's time to go to church.
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>>168023939
>>168024181
>>168024423
Sorry guys, I'm tired, just got back from work and glanced to see 720, not 620. Lost some insight from my fucking brainsucking HR unironically saying that my Hawaiian TShirt was cultural appropriation. I kid you fucking not, this is the world I live in, and BB is one of my escape mechanisms.

I'll go ahead and kill myself now
At least I won't be Mr150 Plebbit
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>>168020043
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>>167990728

Abhorrent is way easy to dodge, you just don't know the timing yet. Once you get that down, he is ridiculously easy, even his CFR version. Dodge to his left all day. NEVER DODGE AWAY FROM HIM, THIS IS BB, WE DODGE TOWARDS AND INTO ENEMIES.
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>>168020043
They're even cuter once you realize they're grills
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>Gets Nioh
>Ohboy.png

>I'll PT as Alfred from BB
>No wheel
>Only Jap swords
>No hammer
>No executioner looking clothes

Oh...sorry for asking
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnNMlg7x-HY

Check out the 5min mark, all kinds of textures replace the grass and leaves.
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Fight Club when/where?
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>>168028335
Is this what happens when you can't handle all the insight?
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>>168028335
Wew lad that's terrifying. Know the glyph?
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>>168028717
Never ever again
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>>168028335
Well, thats a cool way of figuring out who the boss is at the end of that layer.
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>replaying on NG+
>Micolash fight
>listening to speech at the beginning

I just realized "grant us eyes" literally means "grant us insight" I must be autistic for not piecing it together before
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>>168028941
Why? :(
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>>168028717
A bit before 8 hours.
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Can 50 BLT runs be fun? Thinking about trying that next desu senpai
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>>168029528
Only if you use the bow blade and bloodletter
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>>168029528
Yeah, all Blt weapons are pretty fun.
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>>168029574
>>168029637

I like the idea of the Bowblade. Im guessing lean towards SKL early on? Also, how does das Reiterpallasch work with it?
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>>168029750
Untransformed is skill and the pewpew part is pure bloodtinge, fuck the reiter, use saw cleaver up till amelia then go in the nightmare and kill simon
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>>168029228
We'll make a /BBG/ Sings: Hail the Nightmare instead.
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>>168029750
Nah, just stick to base requirements for pure Blt. 14/15 Str/Skl. If it's Skilltinge then go 50/50 Skl/Blt, you'll have to keep Vit around 40 and End at base if you wanna stay around 120 and below for that. Reiter is mainly Skill, only shots are Blt so if you aren't going 50 Skill don't bother with it.
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>>168028986
The Kosm meme is him actually realizing that the great ones are cosmic in origin and don't come from the see.
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>>168030162

Isnt the shit thing about BLT builds that you can only use three different weapons though (Chikage, BL, Bowblade)? I do understand that guns like the Evelyn become much more potent though
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>>168030510
Yeah but for Blt you'll wanna only use their tricked modes anyways. Each of them hit pretty hard and not much is really resistant to Blood damage. Kind of trades weapon options for power, plus guns like Evelyn, Repeating Pistol and Blunderbuss get a huge damage boost. Bowblade is the only one out of the 3 that has a decent untricked mode, so if you wanna use it go 50/50.
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>>168028914
No glyph, if the dude shares it i'll post it.
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>>168030715

hmmmm. leaning towards 15/50 SKL-BLT build then. Two more questions--

Isnt early game going to be an absolute SLOG?

Should I pump VIT up first, and then BLT?
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>>168030908
BB Pellets, Papers and a Saw will handle most of the early game till you get your Blt weapons. It's not really that hard, just treat it like a BL4 run with more Vit. You can pump Blt early for Repeating Pistol, kinda fun shooting stuff with it like dogs. But I'd prioritize Vit first. Military Vet is the best starter for Pure Blt.
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>>168030908
just go to 14/15 str/skl and 25 blt with a spear +6 and repeating pistol ~8, that will be enough for logarius, then just unzip through the game until you can get bloodletter
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>>168030715

Wont a 50-50 push you over Level 98?
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>>168032734
Yes, but if you don't care about meme meta then go for it. Any 50/50 build will push you over 98 unless you severely cut Vit.
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>>168032256
>>168032980

Thank you so much for the help dude. I think Im going to end up going 25/50 SKL/BLT. Just so i can get some use out of the untricked blade modes. Assuming dont go further than 15 for END, and dont touch STR or ARC then?
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Just beat this game last night for the first time.

The fight with the moon presence wasn't as satisfying as I thought it would be, maybe because Gehrman was so much harder.

Still I think that this game is the best one from From Software
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>>168033603
I wouldn't go 25/50, the damage for untricked mode will be pretty mediocre to the point not worth using imo. Base-20 End, 15's the sweetspot. No need for Arc so start with MV for the lowest possible. You could go 15-18 for a few Hunter Tools if you've got points to spare.
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>>168033603
For Str on a Blt build, you don't need anything past the minimum requirements, 14 at the maximum, only if you're using the Bloodletter. As for Arc, you probably won't need to touch it unless you want to use some of the tools like Old Hunter's Bone, Beast Roar.
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>>168033725
Congrats, MP is a bit dissapointing since it's fairly easy but the fight looks awesome. Hope you tried the DLC, has some of the best bosses and weapons in it.
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>>168033890

so I'm pretty much just going to be relying on the tricked modes for Bowblade and Chicago? If im not touching the other attack attribs, I assume I'm just pumping numbers into VIT and BLT then?
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>>168034071
Thanks!
I'll have to give it a go then, this game had me at the edge of my seat the entire time.
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>>168034226
With a setup like that, you might be able to dodge using hunter tools. I mostly leveled myself to 15 Arc to use the Beast Roar against dogs and spiders, but a Chikage and Bowblade would be great for sending them away, as Blood damage does wonders against them. And yes, you'll be stuck with their tricked modes, so find nourishing gems to reduce the effects of the Chikage's health depletion, and stock up on bullets for the Bowblade
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>>168034226
Yes, with 14 Strength there's also Bloodletter. You could get Strength to 28-30 for Gatling Gun and Cannons, both are pretty fun to use if you wanna blast stuff. Untricked Bloodletter would do okay damage but the moveset is pretty shit.
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>>168033725
Congratulations my dude, but yeah I'm really happy I didn't do the umbilical ending first because of that, Gehrman is a really good final boss
And definitely get hype for the DLC, it's amazing from start to finish especially the bosses (one falls a little flat but isn't horrible)
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>>168034545
Why would you use Nourishings for Blt weapons when normal Phys gems increase both damage types? Chicago's HP deplete isn't even bad, just untrick when you're not attacking.
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>>168034736
Nourishing on the gun, no one in their right mind would put it on a weapon. More than anything, it's to recover from that little sliver of health lost in the tricked form without wasting a vial. That small bit of health could be the difference between life and death, especially in FRC dungeons
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>>168034545
>>168034556
>>168034736

Is parrying effective on pure BLT builds? I don't give a fuck about the Gatling Gun or Cannon, I'd rather use the Evelyn or Repeating pistol.

also, are there gems that turn weapons into Blood attacks? im assuming if there are, they are total shit since nobody talks about them
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>>168033603
Not him, but you have to remember that Clock and Anticlock runes are a thing. Use Mugenmonkey for help, and take the cut to SKL rather than BLT then VIT. Go for a starting class with minimum ARC. Also don't forget that the tricked Bow, Letter and Chik all rely soley on BLT damage, no SKL or STR at all.
The minimal extra SKL would only be for the untricked form of the Bow, Chik, RSpear or Reiter, of which you shouldn't be using anyways unless absolutely necessary.
In descending order the most important stats are:
>BLT
>Str or Skl to the MINIMUM that is necessary for Bow, Chik or Letter
>END you are comfortable with (Never above 20, Anticlock will sort you out, don't worry)

>VIT
>SKL
(Balance as much as you like, still prioritise VIT though)

>STR
>ARC
(Nothing more-nada)
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>>168034917
Yes, just unzip instead of doing Visceral attacks after parrying. No gems to convert weapons to Blood.
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>>168034903
Where do you find Nourishings as Circles? You might be mistaking them for Pulsing gems, which regen health. It's pretty slow either way, doesn't really make much of a difference even in FRC. I never bother with them for Blt builds.
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>>168034917
No gems which changes normal dmg into blood dmg, but some of the Lost/Uncanny weapons allow for the gems which should be in a gun instead for huge gains to blood attacks. Only problem is that you can only farm them off Bloodlickers and BSB's in te chalices
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>>168035726
The best Blt Circles comes from Shotgun Watchers, BSB Circles are better for Blunderbuss.
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Are the sprayers worth upgrading with 70 arcane?
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>>168035171
Pulsing, Nourishing, close concepts. At 50 Blt, putting damage-boosting gems on a gun seems unnecessary, since most of the damage would come elsewhere
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>>168035869
Not really, Nourishings is Atk Up while Pulsings just regen. Adding a 31.5% Circle or BSB Circle really makes a difference for guns.
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>>168035835
Both can be just absolutely disgustingly strong, I'm at 70 arc myself. Fuckin cackled first time I used the flamesprayer.
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Stuck on Amy in Layer 3 of Defiled Chalice
I have to go at 1pm (it's 12:15pm for me now) but any help until then would be greatly appreciated
Password is bbg
Ringing already
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>>168037004
>Cackled
Such an amazing, yet obscure word. Thank you anon for reminding me of its' existence.
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>>168037052
I'm sorry, but I get outta work at 6, in a bit over half an hour from now. If Hibiki isnt there, I'll get on ASAP when I get back
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>Kill Maria
>Talk to doll
>mash through dialogue as usual
>it's fucking different
>miss half of it

god DAMN IT
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>>168037579
Don't worry about it pally, I'd hate to be gone before you get here and make you wait around for no reason
Thank you for offering though
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>>168038241
You still there?
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>>168038439
Yep! Im still ringing
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>Sony and From will never update Bloodborne again, ever.
Why even live lads? We're never going to experience a new monster, boss, weapon or area.
Life sucks.
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>>168038515
Alright, I'll try to SRRC in and get downscaled to hell in the process.
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>>168038526
Don't lose hope friend! We're working on something very special for you Souls fans.

t. Miyazaki
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Am I the only one that lorewise think it's fucking stupid to have Rom, the Vacuous Spider and Ebmriais in chalice dungeons? They died and yet here they are again.
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Hey, anyone wanna give me a hand with Rom in the Chalice dungeon?
This boss is a terrible crapshoot for me, be quicker if I had a hand or two. Lastly password is bbg, of course chalice is Lower Pthumeru.
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>>168038793
>>168038795
>Literally a second apart
I N S I G H T
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>>168039180
I'm gonna go for some breakfast actually so I'll be back later.
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>>168038669
Thank you soooooo much
Very good hunting
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>>168039608
The first time it looked on my screen like Amy got staggered for a visceral, next second I'm flattened.
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>>168037789
When you kill a boss, NEVER skip dialogue with important NPCs. Remember 'Bearer, Seek, Seek, Lest'.
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>>168039714
He did get staggered too, I was very confused how you died
I guess his hands can still damage you when he sorta falls over?
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>>168038526
But Bloodborne is complete, anon, a tight finished perfect package.
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>>168039961
I'd like some more quality of life changes desu, like chalices staying across characters, or an option for it at least.

Even using the speedrun guide it sucks going through it more than twice
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>>168039961
But I want more
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Is the blacksky eye more efficient than the Executioners Gloves in terms of damage per bullet?
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>>168040460
In terms of damage yes.
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>>168040460
Eye has range and speed with less damage, gloves have tracking and way more damage plus fantastic stunlock potential, but slow as hell.

I find gloves are used best to run in with after a second. Let off a glove or two and then run with them, enemy will be stunned for a second leaving you a clear, open hit, or you'll reach them first, hit them, then the gloves it a second later.

Blacksky Eye is good for aggroing enemies and whittling down health a little before they get to you.

Personally, if I think they're pretty equivalent with the gloves doing some more damage, it's how they actually hit is what makes them what they are.
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Where did Rom fucks up when evolving ? Why did it result in the " stillbirth of her mind " ?
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making a blt build, how does this look? 18 arc is for augur so i can still parry when tricked, and i'll be using bowblade as well for bosses
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>>168040340
I just want to see them remove any chalice before depth 4, and remove creation costs (paying echos is fine, but get rid of the material costs) for Root Chalices.
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reminder to not reply to tripfags
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>>168041948
>how to block tripfags
Kek, it's gud. I'd swap one Anti-Clock for another Clock.
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Anyone's up for some spelunking in a freshly generated FRC of your choice? I have some spare materials.
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>>168042107
would that really be better tho? in frcs the 100hp difference wont matter as much as having an extra attack or a few more dodges
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>>168042470
I always prioritize Vit/HP over End/Stam since stamina regen is pretty quick. It's kinda hard to run out of stamina in BB, I run 8 End with only the 20% Anti-Clock Rune for my Blt build all the time.
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>>168041773
Personally? I think ascension isn't what we think it is. Good Hunter turns into a slug babby with no indication of what that actually entails.
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I'm bad and I'm the guy who wanted help with Rom in the chalice dungeons. Anyone wanna lend me a hand?
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It is recommended for a new player to keep insight below a certain amount?
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>>168043226
Post the pass first, ask for help later.
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>>168043304
>>168043226
I was actually asking for a response. Anyway password will be bbg of course, I'm an unoriginal fuck all right?
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>>168042943

It entails being cradled and petted by the doll

Is this worth it ? Is this what Rom needed ? Is petted the right spelling ?
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>>168043272
I think it's best going through the game with 9 or below first
Then going through it again on a new character/NG+ or whatever with 10+ to see all the changes
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>>168039961
To be quite honest I think the only thing that From needs to do is bring back the Forbidden Ladder skip.
It was so obscure, only people who were specifically looking for it knew of it, it was a pisstake to pull off and saved so much unnecesarry time on Speedruns. I would feel the same if they patched the Yhargul Corner skip, Old Yharnam skip or the Forbidden rock skip-sometimes a glitch is better left untouched

For those who are unaware of the Speedrunning scene:

>Forbidden Ladder skip=Next to the clinic there is a grave, with an executioner next to it. It used to be that you could use the grave to rocket a jump on the wall it was against, then jump into the courtyard so you could grab the MadKnowledge near the brainsucker for Doll, then descend the ladder to Forbidden Woods. Skipped Gasc, BSB and Amelia full stop (Trust me, OY and BSB was faster than grinding out echoes for emblem)

>Old Yharnum skip=Go to where you need to drop to get into the charred hunter set house. Do a jump slightly to the side, and you'll drop into town streets part of Old Yharnam (You need to see it to understand). Skips a good chunk of Old Yharnam, but redundant before the Ladder skip was patched out.

>Forbidden rock skip=After the lamp, cross the bridge, skip the trap and hold to the right as much as possible until you find a Shardfucker and a few crows. Take them all out, then to the left, there is a slight bump in the rock. Use it to rocket a jump out of bounds, then fall into the huts and grab 6 BBP's. Skips most of the first part of Forbidden Woods.

>Yhargul corner skip=After the first lantern, drop down as if you were going to the elevator. Kill both townsfolk and go to the jutted out corner in the middle of them. Use the momentum from an untricked cleaver full charged R2 to clip through the fence. Then carefully drop a small bit, heal and do a plunging attack on the first Maiden in the Blood Moon Hypno Gaol area. Skips most of Yhargul and the Tri-Hunter-gank-spank.
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>>168018143
Not that rare, really. ARC is common in Isz.
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>>168043272
Below 90ish, so you wouldn't waste any.
There's no reason to "keep it below a certain point" otherwise.
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>>168043272
Kind of, helps deal with Frenzy a bit but armor and runes help enough already. Just don't go popping every Madman's Knowledge you pick up. Near the end you'll want a decent amount of Insight to buy Rocks but since the cap is 99 it's best to pocket them for later.
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Okay /bbg/. I need your opinion on this.
I've been upgrading every weapon to +10 and I'm at a standstill on what to upgrade next.
I've got these weapons left to upgrade.
Saw Cleaver
Saw Spear
Kirkhammer
Ludwig's Don't really want to upgrade due to hearing it's great damage
Amygdalan Arm
Stake Driver
Tonitrus
and Kos Parasite Which I don't have 99 Arc of great Arc gems to get good damage out off.
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Guy asking about starting BLT build here Just started my run

>level up BLT
>doesn't effect Hunters Pistol

am I missing something?
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>>168043497
Totally, that isn't a bug thats going to break anything all it does is allow experienced players to skip the early part of the game.
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>>168041948
>How to block tripfags
Its good, but that END is low even by /bbg/ standards, the reason people say leave it is because it's normally about 10-12, thus Anticlock runes bump it up to an effective 25-30. Would take the hit to either VIT or ARC. Do you reeeely need to parry whilst Bowing, Zipping or AoEing? Can you even use the bow with that set?
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>>168043629
You don't need 99 Arc for Parasite, just 50. Depends on your build but I'm guessing it's sort of a max level character you're doing this on. Kirk, Amy Arm or Stake might be the funnest out of all of them excluding Parasite. Saws dish out insane damage like LHB.
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>>168043861
A brain.
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>>168043602
>>168043448
Going to keep it at 9 in the first run, currently have 8 so will spend some on Gascoigne attire before beating the next boss.
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>>168043546
>There's no reason to "keep it below a certain point" otherwise.

Yes there absolutely is, and it's called Frenzy.
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Thanks to the guy who helped me kill Rom. Around 30% of that bastards hp left uusally the AoE spam comes out, I can avoid some but my timing is off so I get slammed a lot. Anyways onto the next floor for me and I should be okay solo unless you're bored and want echoes or something.
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>>168043861
Upgrade it to increase Blt scaling, early it's most likely too low to gain even a point of damage from 1 level in Blt.
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>>168044002
I was thinking about upgrading the Saw Spear or Cleaver, but I'm stuck between the two.
My character pretty much has 55 vit and 40 across the board.
So if I level up my Arc to 50, will the Parasite finally give me good damage?
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>>168044182

gotcha. Should I ditch the Hunters Pistol for the Repeating?
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>>168044203
Cleaver has a funner tricked moveset imo, people tend to lean towards Spear since both modes are serrated and it has Thrust attacks. At 50 Arc you'll gain decent damage for Parasite from stats alone. But a good portion of it comes from gems, which will most likely require getting to FRC since there aren't many good Arc gems outside of CD's.
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>>168042853
well as long as the build is good i'll just try out both rune setups and see what I prefer, thanks tho
>>168043919
going to 12 end would only give 10 more stam, so i'd prefer the extra 100 hp. of course I dont need to parry but it makes logarius, hmph, watchers, maria, and any bullyable enemy easier. yes I can use the bow, it only needs 8 str/15 skl, and all the arrow damage is blood
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>>168044337
For damage yes, but Pistol is better for parrying since it's cost efficient for bullets.
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>>168044394
Ah, well I'm not looking to get crazy with Chalice Dungeons, so I don't think I'll be going with the Parasite.
Guess I'll go with the Saw Cleaver.
Any opinion on what type to upgrade?
Normal, uncanny or lost?
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Anyone wanna help me with Orphan? Pass is bbg, ringing at fog
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>>168044620
Uncanny for Radial, Radial, Triangle which the best Phys gems come in. If you're gonna stick to Winter Lantern droplets then it doesn't really matter since they fit in all shapes, mostly matters for FRC gems.
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>>168044730
Sure, booting up m8
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>>168044730
Got it.
I thought that's be the best one so I've already got it at +6.
Thank you so much for the help anon, or anons.
>>168044730
On my way.
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My Holy Moonlight Greatsword does barely any damage at 25str/60 arc wtf guys ? Help me out
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>>168044117
The only time when you need frenzy res is the hidden bridge in Mergo's Loft. And insight isn't gonna change your res all that much. You'll need a rune either way.
Or better yet just parry the beholders and iframe through the frenzy proc.
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>>168044117
Just wear frenzy resist attire and if you have to use the rune.
>>168043629
Amy Arm is really fun.

Also what are the best gems for it on a 50str/ 25 skl build?
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>>168044974
>60 arc
>phys attack gems
Get more eyes, famygdala.
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>>168045174
Where can I farm ones without going to chalices?
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>>168044974
Get better gems, you shouldn't be using Phys gems for 25/60 HMS. Plus that Thrust gem acts as an empty slot for non-thrust attacks. Full Nourishings is what you want. Get to spelunking m8
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>>168044865
>>168044934
thanks y'all. Sorry for playing the coward but I have like 18 vit and didn't wanna get one shot by accident
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>>168045426
Thanks for having me, m8.
Don't worry about it. Best having you play careful if that's the case anyways.
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>>168045426
That's quite alright.
Me and the other guy had it handled pretty darn well.
Gave me a chance to use my newly upgraded Saif.
By the way, what was that green debuff?
Never seen it before, and the other guy had it next to his name.
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>>168045282
read the op, you will need chalices really, but there are some nourishing story gems
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>>168045282
Why don't you want to go to the chalices? They were made for gem farming.
If you really don't want to for some reason, there's a pre-set 18% arcane gem in Mergo's Loft. Honestly, don't know where else in the story levels you could get gems that are any good.
You might want tempering gems on MLS, and maybe a cold abyssal.
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>>168045065
>>168045169
There's a world of difference between 90 insight + rune + ashen/beak mask and 1 insight + rune + ashen/beak mask. Hidden bridge is a fucking nightmare sometimes, and the first section of Mensis with invaders and Silverbeasts is no good either. Max Frenzy resist to just make it a non-issue seems like the best options to me.
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>>168045564
We were being downscaled--happens when the host is below your co-op level range. Went smoothly either way, thank goodness.
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>>168045796
Oh, so that's also a thing.
I've heard about the health shave you get from Co-oping and invading, but not that.
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>>168045749
There really isn't.
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Are the only radial blood gems that give arcane scaling in chalice dungeons? Trying to find stuff to slot into my uncanny parasite
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>BLB
What a shitty boss. Not fun to fight and it only needs to move and you get staggered when he does, plus my attacks miss his body often. Oh well I guess.
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>>168046961
>Have to farm BLB for Str scaling gems
Life is pain
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>>168046938
The best ones are in there, don't bother with any below +65 scaling.

>>168046961
It's easier unlocked. Just stick to a leg and dodge when you see an attack coming.
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>>168047068
What gems does he drop?
I'm a strength weapon user myself.
>>168047109
That's pretty much what I did, still a stupid boss. More a nuisance than a challenge to fight.
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>>168042943
I like to think that the good hunter grew into a great one who gaurds the dream,the doll,the messangers and all future hunters.
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>>168045749
You can just run past everything in the first section of Mensis, except the hunter. Kill Micolash, kill the brain and collect everything.
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Best gems for the wheel ona 25/70 build?

I currently have 2 19.3 nourishing radials with open foes and a 72.5 flat arcane triangle with phyical 9.5 ATK up.

Should i replace the triangle for a arcane one or is this good enough?
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>>168047572
Flat is better for tricked multi-hits, but an Amy Nourishing is better for the whole moveset and revving.
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>>168047290
He drops heavy abyssals. Pretty important.
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Can someone help with the Orphan of Kos fight? I'm tired of being beaten to death with a giant piece of shrimp
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>>168048365
Where are you ringing? And pass?
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Is Abhorrent Beast just a shit boss to try and learn Beast Claws vs? I feel like I can't keep any meter and I can only get one or two R1 hits off before he's repositioned or is back handing me. I thought this was going to be fast slashing attacks but it feels like I'm throwing punches underwater.
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>>168048570
at the entrance of the fight, near the praying things. pass is bbg
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>>168048748
Ringing
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I think we're ready for a new thread now.
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>>168048790
fuck you're fast!
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>>168048862
Kek. Sometimes my ISP actually gives me the service I paid them for.
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BEHOLD, A NEW THREAD

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>>168049572
>>168049572
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>>168049253
nobworries. never got that far so no idea what to do but try to open it up to viscerals. thanks a ton, m8!
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>>168049812
Cheers, m8. That was great fun.
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