/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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First for gayposting

>Thread too early

Its just obvious its gonna be shit edition

every edition is shit

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DU-DÚÚPLA N-ÉÉÉGER

T-35 WREACKS HAVOC IN TIER ONE :DDD

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I don't even want boats I just want more missions/maps based around naval combat.

>>167865594
>>167865024
same fagging op out of words

You guys are all colossal faggets

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StuH 42 with HE

BAZMEG :DDDDDD

>japans duster is tier 4
>america's is still tier 5
what was meant by this

>>167866632
japs get a Gepard copy soon

>>167866632
>a useless spaa is still useless at tier iv

>tfw two T34 drivers stay in a narrow lane, driving into each other when the enemy comes and then push me back so I some asshole explodes my ammo
Seriously, are Panzer IV F2s a priority target or what? I am usually dying so fast it's not even funny. Even with the F1 I survive longer and get more kills, same with the Panzer III M.

>Type 60 and M56 are placed in the light tank lines rather than the tank destroyer ones
What did small family company mean by this?

>Visit the forums
>Someone has made a thread complaining the grinding is way too fucking long in GF T4-5, which it is
>There are actually people defending this with arguments like "This isn't a game meant to coddle and reward a player just for staying a little while, It rewards the top stuff for those who have endured the long haul."

80% of the short bus tards that play this game need to droned, gassed and chem-bombed, I hate these stupid cocksuckin retards. I guarantee this guy is a certified shitter.

>he fly's planes in a game that isn't a simulation
Honestly pathetic.
How is this game any different from world of X again?

>>167867904
You sound like an upset person

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>>167865702
that wasn't me desu

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>>167867904
Who cares? The Game stops being fun early T4 anyway.

After that it's just bullshit, autists, pay 2 win fags, tryhards and broken mechanics.

>>167868204
oké messzere

>>167868606
try again lohere

>>167867514
>Seriously, are Panzer IV F2s a priority target or what?

>OHKO gun in turret
>will die when you click on it
>not a priority target

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>>167868862
I miss messzere

>>167869080
Shit man, I really wanted to use the Panzer IV.
So, I just reached Tier 3 and started research for Panzer IV G. Should I switch to Tiger? Will it get better?

>>167869378
Switch to the Tiger.

Pz IVs run out of favour after F2.

>>167869378
Switch to Tiger. Don't get the Tiger E because higher BR for minimal improvements.

Skip the PZ IV G/H/J and get the Panther.

If Germany would have focused on stugs and panzer 4s they would have won the war

prove me wrong

>>167870053
Tanks can't make up for strategic blunders

>>167870053
>Hey guys let's field even more medium tanks we don't have the fuel for.

Genius.

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When?

>>167870516
>tfw too stupid to assemble models

Just me or nippon winter camo is similar to german leopard winter camo ?

>>167869319
he was ok I played with him a few times
decent player and not a sperg

>>167872637
You could have let the thread die

Stupid idiot

>>167872085
Considering where the japs fought ww2 I don't even think this camo is real anyway

>>167876058
kys shill

>>167876058
no.

>Decide to try Air Forces
>Get 6 kills on average when using biplanes
>It drops down to about 1-2 when using normal planes
Why?

>>167879357
shitters stay in that tier to club

>fly out hellcat
>dive on a spitshitter
>they turn
>can't follow their turn
>reset
>they finally do some stupid shit and try prophanging
>hammerhead hose them with fifty cals
>Hit!
American planes are totally fine huh

I think they have coded the chi-ri armor so that when penned the shell will always perfectly shrapnel to kill all your crew despite being far apart.

>armored cars confirmed by The Shooting Range

muh dick

>>167884870
Just fly your flying fortresses and kill anyone dumb enough to follow behind you

>>167884918
what are you of sayings tovarish that would not be of balans ))))))

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rate

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Am I about to learn true suffering?

So does hull break actually work and solid shot actually does things to zsu57s now?

>>167888909

Try grindng for leopard 1 parts in arcade

I seriously think WoWP is gonna include an italian tree before WT. Hopefully with Re 2007 inb4 fake

what's with the replays that you'd actually want to check not showing up?

Y'all are faggots, play some real sims shitasses.

>>167885101
>That crew level on the yak
Embarassing

>>167889115
Only HE and HEAT, so enjoy eating those ZSU-57 shells until you have one ready )))

>>167891181
wrong anon

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1AWQ7O10Lg


shit gaem
shit bread

>>167876435
What is Manchuria

Which tank tree is easier to grind? US or UK??? I want dat chieftain

>>167893790
Both are pretty suffering. I prefer the UK though. Getting used to solid shot only is hard though.

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when?

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Yugoslavia when?

slavgenocide best day of my life

simg > wtg

1v1 us, we'll even let you use mousejoke

why is the obj.906 aviable in the early coldwar rotation?

>>167897684
ok blogput

>>167897684
>implying /wtg/ can compete with da bois

>>167897684
noone cares abotu you gay ass planes

>>167897869
>WAGH WAGH ABLOOOOOOOOOOOOOBLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>167898629
DA COMRADE! IS BALANS))

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Why didn't German engineers test a Me 262 armed with 2 x MK 103? If they could fit the xbox hueg MK 214 in a prototype, there shouldn't have been any problem with the MK 103 and it wouldn't have weighed much more than 4 x MK 108 when including ammo.

It certainly would have helped the pilots who complained about the short effective range and time frame in which they could attack and considering that Hitler wanted a ground attacking Me 262 anyways, the MK 103 would have been better for strafing vehicles than the MK 108 even without tungsten ammo. At ~720 rpm out of both MK 103 together, the rate of fire wouldn't be that bad compared to the single MG 151 from a Bf 109.

I'm a nazishitter who likes the MK 103

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>167899961
shut up dumb cunt

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when?

ATGMs make my soul hurt.

>>167903080
kys bundebabby

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>>167903080
just got the panther II
should i grind the rocket panzer before the leopard just to help kill this game?

>>167903502
only ATGM tank worth it is the IT-1

>>167903558
why is that? whats so different about it?

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when?

>>167904209
>get sprayed with machinegun
>explode

>>167904106
>360° traversable turret
>missle actually has elevation and depression
>incase you are comparing it to the first german rockettank, its SACLOS instead of MCLOS

>>167904270
>russians
>exploding
HET!

>>167904394
Doesn't the Sheridan have all that?

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>>167905376
yeah but it cant do this and still shoot back. the sheridan can also be killed by KPVT machineguns

bote cbt when

>>167905882
kys shill

Name one aspect of this game that isn't RNG.

>>167906436
the disappointment you get

chi-ri uptiered to 6.0 when?

that thing is fucking overpowered

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>>167907956

I think we should focus on the actual issues.

>>167906990
I'm pretty sure that's random.

>>167908247
just removed all zipperheads and replace them with some AI i can farm for all i care

spitfire turnrate buff when?

A6Ms piss me off

>>167907956
Don't worry senpai
All Jap tanks will be hit with the big nerf bat soon

>>167908776
not soon enough. that sherman should be 6.0 as well

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no pen))

>>167909408
Look at where the fuck you hit.
You fucked up on that one.

>>167909553
so a 200 pen round cant pen 180mm of armour?

+10 ruble for you!

are there any shemale tanks?

>>167909720
That's too far forward for the 180mm plate, and besides, if you hit the 180mm plate, the rounding would put it up to 200mm, and you'd lose pen from distance.

You fucked up, Anon.

>>167911296
fuck off boredom

New
>>167865024
>>167865024

New
>>167865024
>>167865024

New
>>167865024
>>167865024

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T-100 when?

>>167912354
the difference to the SMK being?

>>167912449
a cute little AA machinegun turret

better armored

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pls gib moni for sticker am need for small family company (((((((

https://www.redbubble.com/people/mcasomm/works/25223583-sekrit-dokument?asc=u&p=sticker&size=small

is there anything that takes less skill than killing a bomber with a yak-9k?

>>167913054
yeah playing a PZIV F2

>>167913054
Spit 24

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when

>>167913054
T29

>>167913054
Tiger 2

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>i play ground forces

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Do you guys like P-61s?

>>167888909
No
The Chi-Ri II and STA series are far worse choices
The M41 is atleast usable

>>167896716
That gun looks photoshopped

Hey tbov, chatbanned, couldnt talk shit, fuck you

TS aspie from 2014 here.
Is anyone from back then still playing this mess of a game?

Why do the typhoon's 12 7.7mms do so much fucking more damage than the hellcat's 6 12.7mms?

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>>167917632
7.7x12 = 92.4
12.7=76.2

Simple maths tovarich ))))

>>167917632
)))
>>167917579
all i know is that triahx is now being made fun of in /wowsg/

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JG508 PRIDE TILL I DIE!

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>>167866367
:DDDDD

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no HP left))

>>167918171
It unironically has HP now along with other "Light" vehicles
read the fucking patch logs you worthless piece of sabo gun spamming sack, you and your ilk deserve it

>>167918468
>sabot spam
its stock you russian cockgobbling subhuman shithead. but it doesnt suprise me that you will defend HP bars. there are after all lots of votal components in the tracks

>>167918568
You are dumb, Light vehicles being able to take gorillions of shots and not dying was a serious Issue, im glad your shitty fotm spaa meme garbage is being raped and I hope you get raped too, this change was one of the best gaijin have done in a very long time

st-a br drop when

>>167918521
wrong timeline

>>167918623
>take gorrillions of shots

looks like we found the hypershitter. neckyourself and dont forget to start a fire before that to rid us of the corpse

dumb-dumber-slav(e)boo

>>167918725
>Unironically believes that SPAA should be the best vehicles across every BR spread
Yeah, im the shitter :-DDDDDDDD

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>>167918901
>he gets killed by SPAAGs

>>167918943
>Gepard can penetrate everything frontally at 2.0
>37mm Gun halftrack can not only pen everything, but also has APHE
>Wirbel, undoubtadly the best SPAA at its hilariously low BR of 3.7
>K U G E L

Yeah, nah, youre only ousting yourself for the shitter you are, how about you use a tripcode or post you ingame name for everyone to judge you on your stats, since youre so good :^)

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>>167919075
just uninstall hypershitter

>>167919146
Not an argument :)

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>>167919193
>WAAAAH WAAAAAAAH!

>>167919246
>Showing how much of an incoherent naziboo shitter you are by not putting up any counter arguments and just spamming variations of the same picture

Ladies and Gentlemen, youre average naziboo

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>>167919332
>everyone disagreeing with me is a naziboo

>>167865024
Reminder there is no bias for ground forces except German bias and this is coming from someone who has all the tanks.

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>>167920704
nice fakenews dumpfkin

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mods are asleep
post warcrimes ))))))))))))

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when?

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>>167921240
whoops, wrong pic

>>167921520
just more reason for it to be deleted

>IS2 can penetrate tiger 2 upper front plate
>m103 can not

no bias))

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>>167917226
ofc

>>167922514
>380mm heatfs
>cant pen tiger

nice fake news

also using 103...really? you are 5 years late

>t54 stand in front of your t32
what do?

>>167923456
shot-trap

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>>167923535
wrong pic desu

out of beta ))))

>>167923502
the 49 doesnt have a shottrap

>>167923741
you just turn 360° and walk away haha

>Hesh into t29
>turret drive dead
>turret still turning

>>167926512
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>167896716
Isn't that a Somali tank?

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When?

Germans need more heavy bombers.

why is chi-ri so gigantic

>>167926918
HET))

>warblunder

>>167926918
only few produced
heavy bomber need many example )))))))))))))

>>167888909
Rush APDS and you'll be find.

Besides, Jap Bulldog will have an easier time killing Allied vehicles than the US Bulldog has fighting nazibunkers.

>>167905376
IT-1 can fire completely turret down, so the only thing you see is the launcher.

Besides that, the IT can do pretty well in street fighting since theres no minimal arming, and it has the benefits of T-62 chassis meme armour to deflect anything other than a perfect shot.

Sheridans can only fire hulldown, so at least you can try to shoot him, and their light armour that can be pen'd by HMGs means they can't do dirty knife-fighting like the IT.

>>167927072
Because Chi-ri is going to be a thicc Japanese girl in the inevitable biopic of a War Thunder anime

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>yfw the 140/1 doubles as the best T1 SPAA

Not just the cutest tank!

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>Airshitters will never get removed from RB GF

Fuck the slavkike who came up with this idea seriously.

>Be last team member
>Go cap their point
>ISUCKSMASSIVECOCKS drops a bomb on me
>Die

Epic simply epic

>>167932358
>getting spotted

lol

>>167932358
>cuck complains in a dead thread instead of getting good

>>167932539
GETTING SPOTTED WHILE CAPPING THEIR POINT EPIC!!!!!! XDDD

>>167932542
Kill yourself airshitter.

>snorethunder

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IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

>>167933534
Lets be honest, you're shit

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Post Asthetic

>>167933573
>tfw can't do this with my Sla.16

>>167933676
upper hull ? So enemies see it before they die

>>167933808
>someone with a premium tiger 2 not having the entire front covered with bushes

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>>167933565
NO!

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Some idiot keeps posting casual games to our thread. It's obviously meant to be here.

>oh my fuck

>jap chaffee removed from SB
uninstalled

>>167913054
Killing a bomber with the 262.

>>167918468
>Gepard
>spamming sabot after Gaijin decided that it deleted ZSUs too efficiently

>>167935323
>ZSUs didnt get nerfed
dont be retarded, all SPAA got nerfed, eat shit handheld nazi shitter

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>>167934952
Is it time?

>>167935782
>*BRRRAAAAAAPPPP*
didnt expect anything else

>>167936073
>still no german bombs heavier than 1 ton

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>167936160
okay vegeta

>>167935782
>posted as I frontally raingun another MBT

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>>167934952
>bloom
>lens flare
>that snow on the mountain that looks like a patch with no textures

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Post art webms

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>>167940007
I have this

Italian plen when?

>activate booster
>5.3 battle
>maximum uptier
>get raped by proto-chieftains

>>167941857
bad luck)))))

But seriously

>Not using your boosters only for sim battles

>>167945831
never happened

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>tfw you fire your quad turbolasers of your spacefire and vaporize some non space capable trashbox

>>167914849
Soon

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/350924-planned-changes-for-battle-ratings-february-2017/
>they're actually adjusting some of the most fucked BRs in air RB

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new botes session

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4503-fleet-naval-pre-beta-testing-schedule-en/

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>>167946416
>IS-2 mod. 1944 - BR-471D round will be removed
>IS-2 mod. 1944 “Revenge”- BR-471D round will be removed

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>>167946416
Time to hop in your 190s once more!

Glad to see that A7M1 being shoved into higher br games too.

>>167946416
>panther2 7.0
Rip
>m36 5.7
Ayyyy back to clubbing like on release

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>>167947156
>Doras becoming competitive again
Can't wait.

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>>167946416
Hellcat is uptiered to 5.3

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>>167946416
>Ki84-ko now 5.3 instead of 4.7

Oh, party's over

>>167946416
>Panther II
>7.0

Good riddance

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>>167946416
>Changes for Simulator Battles are planned, but we cannot publish them yet.

I swear to fucking god gayjews if you make sim battles more Arcade or RB like I'll personally drive to Russia and murder everyone at your small family company.

>>167946416
>Panther 2
>7.0
>Still has IR gear
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>167946837
a fucking T-34-85 turret
the botes are a blunder

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Which do you prefer? F2a3 Buffalo or F4F3 Wildcat? I don't get why both are in the game. It seems like they do the same thing.

>>167946416
>Pershings all still overtiered as fuck
Really made me think

>>167946416
Huh... This (at least the air part, I don't play tanks) is actually pretty good. What the fuck, Gaijin?

>>167947358
Just use the jackson now

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>>167948042
Shit, that's true. 6.0 when?

>>167948213
M26 5.7
M46 6.3
T25 5.0-5.3
Don't know about the M47 and M48 honestly

>>167946416
>Panther 2 7.0
NIGGERS

>>167946837
pride of the russian navy right there

>>167948296
this, i want my gold for the talisman back.


time for a tempertantrum on the forum

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>>167946416
>mfw I use my Kugelblitz and Panther II with my 7.0 KT 10.5 so the patch affects my lineup fuckall

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>>167946416
>Tiger E and Pzbfw VI getting downtiered to 5.7

JAAAAAAAAAAA

>Panther 2 getting uptiered to 7.0

NEINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>167946416
>make Kugelblitz useless against tanks
>uptier it
I mean, the BR exchange between Coelian and Kugelblitz would've been justified if they only had left the belts alone.

>>167947156
>only the d-12 has the jv44 skin
why the fuck

>>167947321
A 0.3 BR decrease won't make perform like they should. The last nerf still keeps them essentially elevatorless.

>>167948679
I remember getting that skin for free during some event. Getting it made me spade the plane, which was pretty fun for the most part.

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>enduring confrontation with slavs vs japs

>>167948003
F2A3, has better stability and better turn, sluggish tho

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>>167949231

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teebbias remains constant and sharp while being shielded by gaijin

>>167949596
I really hate fighting Wyverns as a La-7 ((((((

>War Thunder's player base are such shit they can't deal with a slightly faster Panther at 6.7

Wew.

>>167949759
FUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW!

>>167949759
WHY DO GERMANS HAVE FAST TANKS
THE RUSSIAN DOCUMENTARIES SAID THEY WERE ALL SLOW

>>167946837

I'd really like to see a us ship that isn't a PT boat

>>167949759
REPORTED((((

>>167949759
Banned: Foul Language

How do I stop being shit in British tanks?

>>167951107
>rush cap
>spawn in hurricane/typhoon/wyvern
>nuke enemy team

>>167951107
You stop playing british tanks

>>167951107
Play as a cuck all game and be support for your team

>>167946416
SPITSHITTERS BTFO

>>167951107
They're shit but they have the best gun depression, maybe try that.

So I guess I should give up on British tanks?
What else than, fall for that Russian bias meme or drive around in a panzer?
I don't really care much for Japs or Burgers.

>>167952451
cant wait for them to sperg out

>>167952815
get good

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>>167952816
They already are on >reddit

Torps seem a little underwhelming

>slow as piss
>Not a guarantee kill even on small boats

unless you get really lucky or the person you are firing at is dead in the water you have to get really close, and because the heavier ships are more or less immune to your weapons (assuming you are a light attack boat) you have to weather their tsunami of lead shit to get close enough to hit them with torpedos

i mean ideally you'd flank them but good luck with that

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>>167953010
Delicious

>>167952815
Russians are good early on but you can't afford to frontally attack too often in tier 4 cause 88's can one shot you nearly everywhere but 85's have low pen and other ruski cannons have long reloads.

Germans can pen and do high damage at any tier but they only get good armor later on.

>>167952815
Just play the tanks you want to play, playing this shit for the grind is retarded

>>167946416
>conq to 7.3
>kugel to 7.0 coelian to 6.7 also being swapped in the research tree
>m36 to 5.7
holy jesus finally some good shit

>>167946416
>Pzbfw VI getting downtiered to 5.7
>Ferdinand downtiered in last patch
>Jumbo downtiered again for Arcade, it's only 0.3 higher than M4A2 now
seem like Gaijin gave up on fixing layered armor

>>167953287
))

>>167953287
>gave up
As if they ever tried. Gaijin's all about "Eh, that'll do."

are the BR changes up?

>>167953759
no

>>167954028
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO IMPLEMENT THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>167954369
they answered with "hopefully next week"

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he kept sperging out in capslock after getting killed

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>>167954647
>panther same br as t34 85
fucking forum full of shitwehraboos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhMGQst4lo
>that engine sound
When are we getting that sound engine overhaul?

>>167954959
Kys slav(e)boo

>>167954959
>T-34-85 production began in February 1944
>Panther D saw combat in 1943
*AUTISTIC SCREECHING ABOUT GERMAN BIAS*

>>167955368
>production dates have anything to do with BR

>Sloped armour isnt too commonly used IRL nowadays because APDS rounds can straight up penetrate sloped armour
>solid rounds in game can get bounced off soviet sloped armour like a rubber dildo

>>167955745
of submit a report )))))))))))))))

>Oh, what is that, you killed 4 tanks 1 br higher than you in one life in sim?
>xaxa tough luck komrad yuo get 6k SL and 500 RP problem is not gaym is yuo is easier to make farm in GF than in AF ))))))))))

Does the Flakbus ever stop being viable?

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Was it rape?

Also boat webms are such a pain to make, they are so massive

>>167954959
For whatever strange reason in practice, the T-34-85 absolutely shits all over the Panther D. Hell, I've seen and been on Teams of T-34-85s that steamroll the Tiger horde. What Gaijin should have done this patch is put the KTH at 7.0 along with the Panther II and every other 6.7 tank. Then moved up the max battle ratings to 9.0 so tanks like the Panther II cannot face indestructible post war tanks but also don't "shit" on 5.7 tanks. I put that in quotes because I've seen T-29s perform better at 5.7 then Panther IIs.

>>167956136
Stop posting crap or i will report it shill

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>>167956136

entirely wrong webm

>>167955368
>Panther II never saw production
>Still in the game
REEEEE RUSSIANS

>>167956136
Nobody cares

>>167956314
>USA_USA_USA.webm
>>167956374
>posted from my obj 906

>>167956374
Tanks that never saw production go up against time traveling tanks. Seems fair to me.

>>167956314
>Soviet gunboats BK-213 and BK-322 attacked a group of 4 German auxiliary minesweepers. During the fight the KM-19 was damaged by a shell of 45mm with 3 wounded and was forced to escape with other two units but KM-08 was left behind and was hits many times and rammed until stranding on rocks at the shore and being lost, of the German crew of 11, only 2 managed to hide themselves and were later rescued by Germans, BK-213 captured 4 sailors (2 died later), she was lightly damaged with 2 wounded (BK-213 was also responsible of the ramming).

>>167956517
Panther II should be same BR as Jumbo Sherman
It's literally just a Panther with a better gun

>>167956604
And better armor.
And faster speed.

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>>167956439
>>posted from my obj 906
obj 906 was actually build and was a working tank you know
the other anon should have specified
Panther 2 never got out of a DRAWING
when will you wehraboos learn

>>167957231
Built 30 YEARS after WW2
When will you stalindildos stop using post war shit to balance your ww2 incompetence

>>167957349
>production dates have anything to do with BR

>>167957646
>posted from my very historical and mass produced I-185s

>>167957349
>a light tank vs a medium tank

I bet if they add in a car from the 70s into the game you nazitards would demand it be tiered at 8.0.

Reminder that Nazi KV-1 is not p2w

>>167957823
I bet if they add the Ru 251, you incompetent fucktards would demand it be placed at 10.0 where nothing would be able to outrun you to the cap.

>>167956758
So?

>>167957910
Speaking of stupid shit, when are Krauts, Bongs, Nips and Burgers going to get T-10 equivalent tanks that eat 350mm rounds?

>>167957910
Me 163 is tiered with Korea-war jets, so it cannot make use of the only advantage it ever had - superior speed.

>>167958615
German tanks are tiered with tanks designed to kill them after the war, but somehow the Panther 2 is OP because it has decent mobility and faces post war tanks.

>>167956227
>I've seen T-29s perform better at 5.7
That's because the T29 is premium and premiums are allowed to club because it brings Gaijob money. That is also the reason why they are stalling with fixing the fucked US tier 4.

Reminder that the only reason they added Panther 2 and 105 KT is to excuse adding more post war shit for Russians. If they had added NVA/BW top tiers for Germany like in planes, Russians couldn't club.

>>167958615
Me-163 doesn't belong in the game

>>167958959
I-185, IL-28, R2D2, Canberra and B-57, Tu-4, MiG-17, Obj 906 don't either

>>167959052
How do those not fit?

>>167959149
How does the Me 163 not fit?

>>167958729
People legitimately cannot handle that the Krauts have a tank that isn't slow as shit. Doesn't matter that it has an extra large profile thanks to the night vision, cannot depress as well, is still the size of a barn, has horrible gun stabilization, and has all the same weak spots as the typical Panthers.

>>167959194
Because if it faced early jets and late props it would club. Which it did before.
And if it faces Korean war jets, it gets clubbed. Which it does now.

Too much speed to face early jets and late props. Not enough endurance for later jets.
It just doesn't fit anywhere.

>>167959272
Only one of those is an actual flaw that affects it in game

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>>167959262

>>167867729

Well, the M56 was placed there to make the way to it longer and in addition make the grind to the Sheridan longer as well. With the Type 60 if it was in the TD line you could easily clear Tier 3 and go straight to the Type 60. But since its in the Light Tank line you have to research the M41 first.

Same thing that happened with the Hunter when the Vampire and Venom got switched around or the Fv4202 to make the Chieftain longer to get.

Its not about which Tank Branch it belongs to, its how much Gaijin can make you grind to it till you're tired and buy your way to it.

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>>167946416
>T32 back to 7.0
Right to the PTSD. Can't wait to get killed by heavies not even my APCR can pen.

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>>167932358

RB Ground Battles is perfectly balan-

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>>167959893
>Night Vision gear on top of roof prevents you from properly hiding behind many objects, alerting enemies to your presence
>Night vision gear on the front of your tank prevents you from going hull down
>Size of the barn makes it easy as shit for everything to hit you
>Horrible gun stabilization means you need to take an extra two seconds after you've stopped moving to make your shot

None of these affect its performance in game to you?

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>>167932358
>They still haven't done anything about kamikaze niggers

>>167949759

>Fantasy conglomeration of every best feature of every napkin Panther project while Germans were busy getting their shit pushed in by subhuman Slavs.
>Engine, wrong.
>Turret, wrong.
>Armor, questionably wrong.
>Weight, completely wrong.
>Reload, hilarious given cockroach conditions.
>no it needs to be 6.0 for balance, it's just another panther!!

git fuked wehraboos

>>167960484
>Being so shit that you can't kill a faster Panther

These are the people playing this game. The next time you feel bad, just remember, you're nowhere near as pathetic as this little fag.

>>167960225
>all that complaining about size but the frontal hull armor which accounts for most of that size is just thick enough to be immune from 100mm russian guns and anything below that

>>167946416
Does this mean the doras are playable again?

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>>167960225
>implying hiding behind objects matters when every nigger is running Ultra Slav and abusing 3rd person camera corner peeking
>You can still hull down in the Panther II, stop being a bitch
>Tanks that aren't light tanks or TD are big, more news at 11
>If you weren't shit you would be in a position where you don't have to wait for the gun to stabilize because your speed already got you to a vantage point

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>Panther 2 at 7.0

oh boy yes Gaijin, a tank that was designed purely in WW2 should definitely fight along side Leopards, and should totally face T-10M's, HEAT-FS(every tank above 7.0 has it), and ATGM's. Yes Gaijin, this makes complete, and realistic sense!))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>spit mk 24 is now 6.7
How exactly is the he 162 a match for this? It needs to be fucking 7.0

>>167960615
So aim for the family room sized turret. Since you're a slav shitter, you'll reliably put it out of battle for a good 40 seconds if you take one shot at its right turret cheek. You'll kill three crew members, destroy the breach, destroy the turret ring, and sometimes even the transmission. Seriously, how can you fags not be able to kill a fucking Panther at 6.7? How shit are you?

>>167960757
>wehraboo mad he can no longer club 5.7 tanks in his fantasymobile

Oh no how will you ever get by at 6.7 with your 3 KT wombo combo?

>>167960757
>IS-2 can still fight Panther II ))))))))))))))
>IS-2 can fight M41
>IS-2 '44 can fight a fucking Leopard because )))))))

>>167960976
>family room sized turret

What tanks even have a smaller turret huh? List them.

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>All these assblasted Nazisharts and Teaboos

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>>167960593

Don't get triggered because I pointed out the facts. Sorry you need someone to squeeze your hand tightly when playing shitbox point and click because everything else is too hard.

>The engine is a late war paper project for the Panther F. Never intended for Panther II. Likely never worked or fit. Was likely stuck at 600-700HP.
>Turret was either an entirely new design to fit the 88 (with subpar D-ish armor) or enlarged vader box with the same armor it has now. It would not be as small as it currently is.
>Armor is above, mix of F. The front plate would likely still be 100, but keeping the sides at 50 would've upped the weight which leads to:
>There's no fucking way it weighed 47 tons with a new turret, thicker on all sides, armor, massive additional engine, and gun. It was 50 at the absolute minimum with a hidden anti-gravity drive, and likely approaching 60t.
>Reload with a larger gun with larger shells in a more cramped turret when the stock Panthers already struggled to bring excessively long single-piece shells into position. Gaijin already gave the F a faster reload "just because" to give werhababies a reason to play it. But don't worry, it reloads just as fast as King Tigers and dedicated tank destroyers.

Try again :^)

>>167961107
>Other tanks

The topic of conversation is the Panther II. So not only are you incapable of killing a tank that is easily penetrated on its upper glacis by a lot of what it faces at its own BR (no matter its angle), you cannot even kill the tank which has a giant sign painted on its turret face that says "Shoot here, I will die".

Kek. I think even Overwatch players aren't this casual.

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>spitshitter mk iib is still 3.0

>>167961308
>easily penetrable
No us gun except the L7 or heat can do it.

>>167961308
BR is dependent upon performance relative to other tanks you bitch. What does it matter if the Panther II has weakspots if the size of those weakspots are still small compared to the weakspots of other tanks?

>>167961443
What's wrong with that?

>>167961490
Cent mk 3, mk 10, FV4202 and Caervanon all pen it. M56 with its heat pens it. I've seen the T-44s punch through it. T-29 of fucking course will punch a hole right through that glacis.

>>167961556
it outruns, outclimbs, outrolls, outturns, outguns, outeverythings most planes it faces when downtiered, which makes it impossible to fly mig-3s, lalas, etc.

>>167961308
>giant sign painted on its turret face that says "Shoot here, I will die".

>"shoot here to damage my turret drive and watch it eat all the spall, maybe kill the commander while I repair in 3 seconds and return fire"

Why don't Panther IIs just flank?

>>167961787

They don't understand. They're just to just holding cruise control at a point and clicking on the profile of anything that approached them frontally. Anything that challenges this narrative for them is extremely upsetting.

>>167961787
Panther IIs don't have the luxury of being medium tanks with the profile of light tanks. They get sniped across the map before they can flank.

>>167961585
>the only things that are a threat to me are tanks with only APDS and solidshot, an unarmored TD which can be killed by machine guns, russian shit with less depression and no pen (or the one with 100mm gun at 7.0, same BR), and a heavy tank with the same weakspot of shoot directly right of the gun to cripple

>>167962014

Thankfully they have the luxury of being medium tanks with the speed of a light tank (or better), frontal hull armor of a non-German heavy, and a railgun with unaffected reload.

>>167962014
76mm Sherman players manage to do it, while being slower and with a profile as big as the Panther II. Less armor and worse gun too.

>>167962040
>Are a threat to me

Bring back those goalposts nigger. We're talking about tanks that will pen its UPPER GLACIS. The turret is made of cheese. Everything is a thread to it from tier three up.

>Panther ll now at 7.0

WOOOOOW

WHO CRIED FOR THAT?! Fucking gaijin....

>>167962181
>Being medium tanks

The Panther II is a medium tank with the profile of a heavy tank, frontal hull armor that MAY occasionally bounce some rounds, and a weak as shit gun breach that is instantly nuked. It has good speed, and a good gun. I get that you fags can't stay unbiased to save your own dicks, but would you at least try? The Panther II can't compete with 7.3 tanks, let alone the T-10 or the T-62.

>>167962239
No they don't. They just rush straight in.