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Tell me captain, if the Federation is so good, why are there no good Dominion 4 OP images?

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>>167795772
There are, but OP's a faggot, as usual.

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R8 my Yomi pretender
>N9 Bless
>E4 for Reinvig
>A5 for bags of wind/gale gate (debating leaving this at a A4 because as awesome as fog warriors is 50 gem dual booster Dai Tengu's are crazy expensive.)
>Turmoil for the Oni boost
>Luck to make the best of Turmoil and to meme
>Magic to get my midgame on ASAP
>Imprisoned since most major things I'll have this guy do won't be till around year 3 anyway (this one I'm not sure on because it would be nice to have a vine shield crafter for early thugging.

I've never have played Yomi before also so I have been trying to figure out how you're supposed to get to Dai Tengu native (or if it's even worth summoning them). I see they're self summoning and also an A2 Dai Oni can summon them.

But an A2 dai oni seems pretty rare. Is it worth empowering an A1 Dai Oni to A2 to summon them if you have a lot of air gems? I mean 500 gold and 30 air gems for a A2/D3/F2/E2/H1 chasis seems like a bargain compared to some nations thug options.

>>167796768
needs luck 3

Where can I watch the Community Clash?

>>167798708
Doesn't making it watchable make it super easy for other players to cheat?

How should I gear up Golems as MA R'lyeh (no summod)? I'll be using the helm slot for the astral booster for teleport.

>>167800329
Oh, and what are the best things to Wish for? <3 Thanks for the help!

I fear wishing for armageddon would kill a great swath of my cheap mages.

>>167800469
Wish for friends, it'll teleport land-breathing units onto your underwater capital.

>>167800637
Ahaha. Does it just choose x units at random? Any commanders? This sounds hilarious.

>>167800727
I have no idea, but it happens.

>>167795667
>Debug Mod:
>For testing battle formations and spells
>http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

Desura backup is kill my friend

>>167800727
It's the entire population of a province AND every single unit stationed there. To be clear, that includes every commander and mage. Units incapable of teleportation may be immune but I doubt it.

We're going to need better OP images if these threads are going to survive.

>>167795667
we need more unironic dominions fanart

mistformed tuatha facing scared shitless chaff when

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There's a lot of decent art already; we just don't use it

>>167795772
Because Babylon 5 is better

>>167804952
I love this pic.

>>167796768
dump down to sloth 2, grab luck 3 magic 3
otherwise p good. Remember all you will be recruiting is 1 res demons or 4 res bakemono archers.
If you are taking the A5 almost entirely for fog warriors, I would say don't bother. Lategame yomi is mediocre at taking large armies to the battle, mostly because you are very good at casting RoS and you can easily make armies of dai oni + oni general and be immune. Fog warriors does let you take a greater variety of troops to battle, and if you can get a good blob of Shikome they will be very nasty with fog warriors + nature 9 + end of weakness/marble warriors + strength of giants.
Another way to approach fog warriors is E/S combo on your pretender. S indie mages are reasonably common (lizards and crystal amazons) and you can do some very fun communion tricks (earthpower + soul vortex + ironskin + phoenix pyre on your slaves is nice)

Stale your turns.

>>167810003
will do senpai

>>167804854
If I were talented would I be playing Dominions?

>>167795667

>it's an "only one guy in the game roleplays" episode

>>167812502

>it's a 'got bored of roleplaying after five turns and switched to communicating only in memes' teaser-trailer

Masuyuki couldn't sleep. He could barely eat; only half his bodyweight most days (more on weekends and mandatory drinking days). The army doc called it, ''A perfectly regular case of battle fright, nothi'' before Masuyuki swiftly and brutally killed the psychologist and devoured his body. Unfortunately, a bakemono called Beebo Grouwzer who had a habit for ground up astral pearls heard this heated exchange, and word got out. That was how you end up in some shithole, sitesearching and doing menial summoning tasks while the rest of the dai oni got to kill stuff.

In reality, it was worse than Masuyuki dared admit. Terrifying dreams haunted him. Toothless old men cackling at him and screeching, ''Dai Oni make poor super-combatants!'' Or the even worse one, about the bakemono rising up, creating their own governmental system, and the era of oni superiority coming to an end. He shuddered just to think of them

Reminder that your fourthturning turn would be here already if it wasn't for Ur.

>>167816126

But if I attack him, he'll probably ask it to be set to 48 hours.

>>167816231
He can ask, but will need a majority for it to be delivered.

>>167815145

Not going to lie those Dai Oni did a number on me, but not as supercombatants, but supercasters

>>167815145
One day Masuyuki was playing strip poker with the bane lord he had summoned a few weeks earlier. They were telling each other about all the badass wars and stuff they had done, and drinking heavily. Suddenly, a massive rephaite fell from the sky about a hundred meters away. Mauyuki set about summoning as many skeletons as he could, as quickly as he could. With him, the bane lord, and some skeletons, he felt they might be able to take this guy. The giant called upon the blessing of Semeyaza, and surrounded himself with a shield of magical fire. Then he flew over all the skeletons, and started trying to stab Masuyuki in the face. The bane lord quietly slunk away, before either the rephaite or Masuyuki could notice.
Masuyuki cursed his crap equipment. A skull staff, some weightless chainmail, and some flying shoes. Not ideal for a combat situation. The rephaite, for his part, was adorned with glowing jewelry, a baroque enchanted chestplate with matching helmet, and a sword which spewed gouts of flame. All of this, he was using to try to kill Masuyuki.

>>167820005
The skeleton hordes had caught up to the melee, and set about surrounding the Melqart and taking cheap pot shots. This he barely noticed, as his shield unraveled itself from his arm and set about immobilizing the skeletons with snaking tendrils of vine. The giant grinned at Masuyuki, as if to say;
It's just you and me.
Masuyuki punched him in the gut, his hand wreathed in pure energy. Surprisingly, this worked spectacularly, and a miniature geyser of pulped organs and blood sprayed from the giants back. Masayuki stepped back, then noticed with dawning horror the speed at which the hole was filling itself. The giant barely seemed phased at all, though Masuyuki noticed that he carried himself in a more defensive stance. He would need a distraction to do that again. The giant steadily rained blows on him, but he dodged them effortlessly, using his staff to turn aside some blows, ducking or juking others. Masuyuki swung hard, and connected with the giants head. It staggered back, and Masuyuki knew it was time to act. The skeletons, as one, grasped the vines connecting to the shield and pulled. It wasn't much, but just enough to pull it even more off balance. This was what Masayuki needed. He raced forward, his hand already glowing with energy, and uppercut the giant. The giants face was disintegrated, and the brain just visible through the shattered skull. One of the skeletons had climned the giants back, and now placed a rusty dagger against the brain. Already the face of the giant was half healed, one eye regenerated from nothing, the mouth and teeth reforming. The flowing flesh held the dagger in place, and Masuyuki needed no more invitation. He slammed his skull staff down on hilt of the dagger with all his might, and the giant dropped dead.
As Masuyuki placed the dragon helmet on his head, he felt his faith in Dai Oni supercombatants return. He had done it.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AbsoluteMAdMAn

Needs one more

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I'll join as the last player in MAdMAn. How do I build a Shinuyama pretender?

>>167807365
good post desu senpai

>>167821613
Actually, forget Shinuyama I'm going to try Atlantis.

Game starto.

Good luck, nerds.

>>167822514
Not in this game you're not. Sorry kohai.
I'll start another one if you want, though. MA Atlantis needs to be played more, if only to highlight how shitty its troops are

>>167822581
>>167822687
beh, don't worry. I'll catch the next one.

>>167822748
Yeah, but if enough other people still want to play, I don't mind making the 'next one' right now.

>>167822796
I'm only in the one game right now so I'll play. But I don't think anybody else has been expressing interest in new games recently.

>>167821613
Imprisoned F4E4D5B2 Bakemono Kunshu w dom 8 and scales is pretty good. Minor E and D bless are good for your big sacred shamans (D bless helps with keeping diseased ones alive. In general use all shamans for combat or sitesearching, ubas are your labrats). F4 because it is cheap and Ench 6 is a given in year 3 for Shinu that is doing at all ok.
You can get O3S2H3G3L3
Alternatively;
Imprisoned E6S6 Nyorai.
You get 3 extra scales. Great for taking less sloth or magic scales. Bless is good for your shamans, but without disease protection of death bless. The extra reinvigoration and MR is better for your shamans who have cast hidden heart. Whether hidden heart is good or not is hard to say. The requirement for an unforted temple mountain is pretty hard to satisfy, and also makes it apparent where to go to kill it. On the other hand, you can build a fort on it afterwards. You can get shamans from lab+temple mountains, but it feels like weak synergy. All in all, it is a little tricky to use, but a 16 gem immortal with Bakemono shaman paths is hard to beat in gemcost.
Finally ignore all this and take an earth snek.

>>167823062
If I do go Shinuyuma soon I might try one of these. Is Sloth bearable? Aren't Dai-Bakemono expensive in resources?

>>167822581
>not posting pretender names

this game is so fun and complex but sometimes its kinda overwhelming, still love it. i wanted a strategy game with deep mechanics and gameplay to fill the boredom and make my crippling depression bearable but sometimes i am like hours thinking, reading the manual, checking dom4inspector and mulling over all the possibilities when playing a nation. i always learn something new, how do you deal with the overwhelmingly large quantity of information?
also sorry for the bloglike-post.

>>167823836
I have a job that involves overwhelmingly large quantity of information every day. Dom4 lets me relax and turn my brain off.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FrogAndToad

New game for MA Atlantis to have fun.

Pologio is banned

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>>167824059

Is this you?

>>167824840
>game is named FrogAndToad
>zero caves for toads to make their good mages
gg

>>167824963
You're right. We cave rhinos now

>>167823214
>>167824840
biggame4u

To answer your question, you can actually reasonably expand with Kappa, but you can also actually get something out of not-sloth 3, unlike Yomi which basically only gets yet more of its 4res archers.

>>167822581
So, is it normal for Agartha to not be underground? Really roused me by swapping the mapfile at the last second.

>>167825481
It's the same map

>>167825543
>Do 20 tests confirming the start in the caves 100% of the time
>game starts
>this is no longer the case

Somehow I doubt this.

>>167825573
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4FvijWNFs7UMmVkQ2JoSXk5YWs/view

Was this the map you used to test? Because that's the map that is being used in the game.

>>167825654
Yup.

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>>167825691
Well...

I don't know what to tell you about your start and tests, because that's exactly the map.

>>167825783
Really strange. Well, this will turn out either really well, or really poorly.

Just hope I'm not next to the cancer.

won't anybody please post the pretender memes?

Figured out what the issue is. The bonehead who made the map only set 1 cave start, when really there should have been 3 (4/5/3 all share the same number of land connections).

And since that cave has a throne, it made it impossible to spawn in caves. Thanks map maker.

>>167826074
Why are thrones even placed before players?

>>167826945
No clue, I didn't even know they were before this game. I bet that fucks up a lot of pre placements to be honest.

>>167826074
It was Elmokki.

I'm willing to do a restart, but there's I think 2 cave provinces on the northern end of the map so you shouldn't be THAT far from one or the other if you need caves to do your premium strat

>>167827749
Eh, a quick restart would be nice - its mostly certain things were decided in pretender selection based on a certain start loc (looks toward sloth scales)

The effective -10% income hit hurts too though. I was more just initially shocked it could happen at all, since I didn't know thrones were placed before players.

>>167827971
You got it my dude.

>>167827971
>>167828002
Are you guys not posting pretender names just to hurt my feelings?

>>167828107
I'm not playing in this game.

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>>167828002
Thank you very much. In exchange, I promise not to bid like 200g on the mercs like I planned on initially.

>>167828107
The pretenders.

>>167828484
H-he's fast with that S3...

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>>167828484
>Mari's pretender is named The Pannion Domin
>Sy's quadbless Mari was named The Pannion Domin
I'd rather start next to Ermor, desu

>>167829342
Don't worry. I'm not playing

>>167829342

Imma just say that I'm not Sy, but you're not wrong about wanting to start next to Ermor.

>>167795667
how much of a hp and strength boost do you get when you cast Enlarge?

>>167829826
The manual is a bit shit, but it and CONTRL-f are good.
I don't have manual or I'd post the answer.

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Marignon you slow bastard you bottleneck us every turn.

>>167830879
Just kill him ingame.

>>167830879
Just kill him in real life.

>>167830879
just let real life kill him

>>167828484
I honestly dont get why Nazca isnt used more often.
They are fun as fuck and good.

>>167833592
expansion is difficult so people get discouraged from playing them when they test them out

>>167833592
>>167824840

>>167824840
I have an idea to make Atlantis work at least somewhat decently. I'll upload tomorrow. Nobody take them.

>>167795667
>Who knew this was the official artwork?-edition
Fucking everyone.

This better be some meme I'm not getting.

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5 minutes Marignon you fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>167830879
just kill.

>>167823062

What the fuckshit is this advice. How does Undying-in-battles keep your idiots alive against disease. How the fuck does this shinu expand, with what, dai baks in sloth to a massive 6 provinces? regular baks dying to every kind of indie? Is that a goddamn dai oni summoner god? Order when you're clearly going up conj and therefore want to be able to summon oni? Building shammies but no Magic? Or do you mean sorcs?

sfhjdfkldsjaklsfjhispjeapodjkldgjsskjaakljgshlafsk

A fucking random event flipped the dom on my cap.
Fuck this game. I was totally making a comeback.

>>167823836
it's not so big and you can always use the dominions 4 mod inspector to browse content when you need it.

what you really need to learn are what are the most used spells, but you will quickly learn it after a few turns.

>>167836703
t. MokouMarignon

hello /domg/.
i want to start doing commentary and uploading shitty videos on youtube as my new game start.
what programs should i use on my craptop?
what kind of setup and format do you suggest?

how do i get over the fact my voice is cringey and i only have bad mics?

>>167837064
Your voice?

Confidence and talking to yourself. I understand the two do not usually go together.

Bluntly: don't pull a Sy and warble all over the place. Although Sy manages to pull his warbling off because it's cute.

>bad mics
Get a good one. They're cheap enough.

>>167837064

Dunno about software, but as for format it would probably be better to do a video for each turn after you've done it, so you can cut out the twenty minutes of carefully spacing communion slaves on the battlefield and just show the interesting bits.

You'll also definitely want at least a five or six turn delay on videos compared to where the game is actually at, otherwise you're giving information to your enemies.

>>167833745
I really like Nazca but already played it twice and I don't want to become Cirno.
When is waifu-ing a nation acceptable?

>>167837064
>how do i get over the fact my voice is cringey and i only have bad mics?

Do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQXD7kokzw

>>167837064
Don't.

We have those already. What we need are in-depth discussions about decision making. About making nation builds and pretender builds, about judging units and commanders. About basic strategies like thugs/SCs, too. We don't even have those -- I had to figure that out through the power of this general's memery.
>>167837285
Genius.

>>167837556
>>167837064
>We have those already
no we don't. you can count english MP games uploads on the fingers of two hands hand, probably most nations aren't covered more than once.

>What we need are in-depth discussions about decision making. About making nation builds and pretender builds, about judging units and commanders. About basic strategies like thugs/SCs, too. We don't even have those -- I had to figure that out through the power of this general's memery.

we have some of those and i intend to talk about those topics along the video, but i can't help it if i am a shitter and the actualy 5 pros we have don't make videos.

>>167837939
I meant that they existed, not that we did not need any more. More would be good, just not as good as more tutorial-focused content.

I haven't seen those. D'you mind linking them?

>>167839679
>https://www.youtube.com/user/Maerlande2/videos
>https://www.youtube.com/user/tokshen
>https://www.youtube.com/user/itsmu
>https://www.youtube.com/user/Alcoway

>>167840219
>Maerlande2
>itsmu
>Alcoway (Sy)
These all do what you want to do.
>Tokshen
Same with him, except I also heard he has no idea what he's talking about.

>>167837157
Um . . . . ?

But honestly, at least Sy's video have real advice and not: "here, take this W9 erf snek" like some videos.

>>167840912
Sy's are the best I've seen. He goes into a lot more detail than the LP descriptive "so I moved these guys to this province to conquer it", instead explaining why he's moving those kinds of guys to that province and why he's conquering that province to begin with.

Shame he's done like ten videos.

>>167841192

That's the problem, I guess. If you're going into more detail and explaining what you're doing, it takes longer to prep the video than just going "I moved the dudes to here"

>>167842630
no pythium?

did everyone start with 2 provinces? i didn't expect this.

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>>167796768
>Another new Yomi player falling for the Tengu trap

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Yeah I came to brag about it. Take that you bully. No N9 shroud.

>>167843873
how do ozetotl ever not kill a golem? were you doing some sick 10 squares trampling?

>>167844194

Ozelotl have one +2 damage attack and two +0. If he slapped an Armor of Knights on the thing, then it'd be beyond their ability to reliably damage, even with the strength boost from B9. Golems don't have to worry about high-fatigue critical hits as well.

Damaging hits would still get through of course, but presumably not enough before autorout.

>>167837064
As far as software goes Open Broadcaster Software isn't exactly state of the art but it let's you screen capture and record for free. Just google it and it should come up.

How do I shinu? Can someone please tell me how to shinu?

>>16784453Z
Armour of knights + luck. Starting from 80+ hp he went down to 30ish by the end. He also casted EQs and wasted time killing my boar chaff while my golem buffed up.

>>167844534
He should have cast bloodlust, then.

>>167845330

Golems are lifeless. They get no benefit from Luck.

>>167844194
>>167845330
Whoops

>>167845330
I hope you mean body ethereal, since luck does nothing for a golem.

>>167845418
>>167845467
L U C K, not luck.

>>167845909

Ah. Try an Iron Face next time. That'll put them beyond Ozelotl damage even with B9 and Bloodlust.

>>167846043
I did. Was killed by an arch devil underwarer with ring of regen.

>>167846547

Yeah. Arch devils will fuck up Golems. Iron Face + Armor of Knights is enough to ignore Ozelotl though.

>>167809353
So I just did a test game and expanded fine with Kuro-Oni, so you're saying I should just mass a bunch of the little guys? I guess that would be super effective in early mid game with flaming arrows. Also I do see the value in gangs of Oni general and dai oni thugs. Especially when you get your national heros and can make blood stones for dai onis to RoS every turn without having to be near a lab.

I also tried a similar N9/S7/E4 monolith build and the rings were able to get my D4 dai Oni's summoning tarts. And with the N9 i had no problem with gift of health and the chalice. The tarts seemed redundant against the AI because they couldn't stop Dai-Oni but I think they would be super useful against other players.

>>167842805
Yea I'm starting to see the that the Tengu are not a good way to base your Yomi strategy. I think i no one would trade me an air booster, I would empower an A1 Dai-Oni if I had a surplus of air gems to get them (the mistform/trapeezing Dai-Oni would make it worth it), but now I'm thinking basing my pretender slightly around Tengu would be silly.

However I do so like the idea of an Air immobile pretender for the cloud trapeeze shenanigans with none of the magic duel vulnerability. [Spoiler]N9/A2/E4 Meme Irminsul might be my next meme game build[/spoiler]

>>167847337

Immobiles can't cloud trapeze, if memory serves. Same deal with the other mobility spells. Just Teleport. It's why you don't see Irminsuls Faerie Trodding around.

>>167847661
Booooooooooooooooooooooo

Well actually that makes a lot of sense now. I was sorta surprised it was something I had never seen before. Oh well I guess monolith dropping was the meme meta for a reason.

Alright, interest check for a disciples game in MA.
I've never hosted a disciples game tho. How is nation picking normally handled?

>>167848375
First people sign up, then the first team to sign up gets to choose nations, then the second and so on

>>167848375

Snake draft works pretty well. Generally a good idea to organize teams before you get to nation picking. Randomize the order and shit.

>>167848527
>>167848375
snake drafting is a good idea, and to make it faster you could just have everyone tell his preferences(top 3 nations he wants to pick) for the round, perhaps in a private message, so you could assign them all in one whoop instead of having everyone waiting in a line.

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Fuck you man, I hoped you would wipe the floor with me, so I could finally go AI.

>>167839616
>I'm sure to win because my speed is superior

>>167849052
Occultist buttressing.

>>167849794
wat

>>167849052
>losing a war to someone who uses their pretender on offense
Next time buy a bow of botulf from a neighbor.

>>167849817

Arcane assistance.

>>167850030

Where do you see a pretender on offence there?

>>167850112
Is man not invading marignon?

>>167850112
The fucking Tiwaz of War

>>167850180
>>167850167

Defender's always below attacker.

>>167850282
On the province level, yes, but this is marignon's last stand

>>167825481
Hey, when did people start saying "rouse" instead of "ruse"? I've been seeing it over the last few days but I'm not exactly hip to the memes.

Unless you just can't spell or something.

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>>167850880
>Not getting hot and bothered by surprises
You're missing out on 90% of what makes Dominions fun.

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>this shit
>AI Atlantis killing a Skratti thug with Earth Elemental Spam
I'm not cut out for giant nations.

>>167851553
>needlessly using skratti instead of a jarl
Stupid fag.

>>167851683

Jarls are Size 5. They'll die to Earth Elemental trampling just as easy.

>>167851683
>needlessly
Nigga, those were my first two Skratti. With another one fending of atlantis raids (not anymore) and with enough gear for another one.
I'm not sure if Cons4 is enough to properly gear a Jarl.

>>167836157
Heaven sends forth innumerable gifts to nurture Man.

Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.

Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

>>167798708

I'm an emergency sub for one of the teams and everything is private business on Discord, it seems.

It seems they had to restart twice or something because the map is fucked up. Amusing.

>>167821538
>>167822687
where the fuck do I get worthy heroes 5.8

>>167856187

The fucking link

>>167856389
didn't work
got me a folder called 5.7 that unpacked into 5.6

>>167857127

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B51DS6LWagFTTzJScE9MWDEySDg/view

Jesus fucking christ how hard is it

>>167848375
When are you doing this game? I would possibly want to join.

>>167857245
post #3 http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3237
"the file is still named 5.6"
that was when I downloaded it
the version in-game now is updated

when I googled it I got 5.6 as the only result

so yeah fairly difficult

>>167857621
The file for 5.7 was named 5.6

The file for 5.8 is named 5.8

>>167837157
>Bluntly: don't pull a Sy and warble all over the place. Although Sy manages to pull his warbling off because it's cute
Sy's videos are watchable because he just has a nice voice. His videos are good because he is good at Dominions. They could be much better if he practiced or wrote a script, since he seems to just be doing these in one take.

>>167857857
>Sy's videos are watchable because he just has a nice voice
I want Sy to read me bedtime stories.

>>167857857
His voice is kinda annoying to listen to, but it's OK because he never lowers the game volume enough to hear him clearly

>>167823062

am i having a stroke

>>167851683
skratti are recruit anywhere, and have built in regen, 20% with shroud. You don't make 2 and call it a day, you make one from every fort you have with a shroud, VS, brand and either a barkskin amulet or stone boots depending on what you're up against. You just can't do the same with Jarls

>>167860895
At least you can actually win battles with jarls.

>>167860963
Skrattis raid PD and armies with low mage support, or they support your own armies of wolves and draugr. They aren't SCs, they're thugs. Jarls are SCs, but not very good ones

Taking any donations of gold to beat back this Atlantis menace. Unless you want them to control all the sea, please feel free to donate to your local campaign office.

>>167862210
fuk u

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>>167862465

>>167862541
ur gross

>>167862613

That's actually very racist you know. Tentacles is a natural and beautiful part of our race, beloved by many coastal living women.

>>167862805
ew

>>167860963
If you purely use Jarls you will get countered and then you'll be down an SC/High tier Thug
If you use a mix of Jarls, Skratti thugs and Skittle batteries you will have a much broader set of abilities that needs to be countered effectively

And that's the key thing really; if you only ever use one thing you're gonna get countered like the chump you are
Skittle Batteries are the best option of all three for that reason; it adds a massive amount of diversity to the mage tactics available to you (including Jarl super-casters ofc)

never just go "hurr-durr one thing is clearly best option so I'll only use that"
you'll eventually encounter a cheap counter to it and then you're fucked

>>167862210
>Squids are losing despite having a type advantage and destroyed two armies when Atlantis staled

Not gonna shovel good money into a bad investment

i know abysia(VanillaNewbs) had some irl problems but he's been stalling for a while now.
admin can you do something?

>>167863640


I'm holding my own, but I'll take any investment to turn the tide. Atlantis is much bigger than me, so it's a good deal if you want to keep them busy.

>>167864580
>I know someone has problems outside of their control in real life
>but I'm an asshole
>admin punish them for it
kys

>>167864950

If you're staling multiple times in a row because your life is getting in the way of doing turns then tough shit, you should have asked for a sub earlier.

>>167866732
You're so much of a NEET you don't have anything to do but wait for this game.

>>167866823

I work 45 hour weeks and still get my turns done.

>>167866901
Yet you have so little to do that you get buttmad when you have to wait for this game.

That's worse.

>>167864730
Personally I wish you'd both stop fighting and help against the Machaka/Xibalba alliance. Both have 2 caps, and Machaka has garnets.

>>167867154

Do you think I'm >>167864580 ? If you're staling, you should ask for an extension, or ask for a sub, or set yourself AI.

If you've missed multiple turns, you've no grounds to complain when the admin sets you AI.

>>167867192

I wouldn't mind an end to the fighting but Atlantis, thought he'd get some fried calamari

>>167867310
I wasn't sure if anon meant stalling or staling given both work in context.

Do you think >>167864950 is Abysia?

>>167867583

Oh. Fair enough then. Getting annoyed at someone for "Stalling" in a PBEM game is retarded, and I have no idea why it's even a thing. If you're missing turns, fair enough. If not, what's the problem?

>>167846849
Normally. Only if Xibalba doesnt have 70% of provinces with 200+ stacks of ozes running around he can just keep sending them until my golem finally dies to some lucky crits. It's basically over, but we're still fighting the good fight.

>>167868214
I.e the typical nonsummoded xibalba game

>>167869573

Let's be fair here. That's the typical summoded xibalba game as well.

>>167870308
>>167868214
>tfw I am in this game and the guys around xibalba didn't gangraped him turn 1
>now the world is heading towards a blood magic apocalypse

>>167864950
if i had a irl problem that doesn't let me play for 5 or more days in a row i think i would feel myself an asshole for not setting myself AI or asking for a sub.
or at least an extension.

>>167873772
Same here, the only stalls I have are because I forgot or thought I had send the files when I didn't.

>>167873772
I thought one of the players (assuming it's this guy) explicitly asked for a sub and said he had no internet for the next month

>>167867192
I am happy to prevent a snowball if the nations who are larger than I am commit. But I'm not interested in attacking xibalba only for Ur and Vanheim to continue snowballing even harder against the little guys.

I love ichtyids!

>>167875281
Dude the bats are literally the scariest race in the game and should always take removal priority.

>>167877183
t. elves

>>167878353
Lel, elves ain't even in the top 5.

>>167878353
Bats are just elves but they fly.

>>167878353
Elves aren't scary unless they're Fomorian Nemedians; and then it's by merit of having their Giant Senpai's always lurking to step in and beat the shit out of you
Elves are just ridiculously annoying

Fucking Fomoria though

Is Community Clash a thing yet?

>>167877183
Bats and birds. I personally believe birbs must be exterminated before bats.

>>167878798

Pretty sure it's started, unless they've had more map fuckery. Pretenders got posted a couple threads back.

>>167879117

Birbs are just bats without combat effective troops or useful national summons.

>>167879213
Well, we're on a third restart now - hopefully this time enemy teams won't have adjacent capitals.

Like, is that so much to ask for?

>>167877183
>Dude the bats are literally the scariest race in the game and should always take removal priority.

that could literally not be farther from the truth, especially under summod.
I will not deny that bats are in the upper half of good nations, but most of their merits are often unfairly exhaggerated to the point that no one can play that nation without being in complete diplomatic disadvantage and unfun alliances, just because people hate to play against stealth troops.
A good share of their victories come from the fact they are more complicated to use than good, requiring both tactical skill and the diplomancy to keep people from dogpiling you, and that leaves them only in the hands of better than average players, who raise Xibalba winrate.

it has been shown several times that bats troops are just as efficient at handling certain task as they are terrible at others. It takes 200 bats to take Yomi's 25 capital PD it isn't even funny.
people die against bats because they don't bother using their brain and understanding that they can be easily countered by using a slightly different logic than other matchups.

just fucking put all your stuff into a square with archers in the middle. DONE. one batholocaust happened. Just put 6 heavy infantries and 6 archers patrolling your in construction fort and some PD. here you go xibalba just lost his raid squad.Set up PD traps for his raiders and then march to his capital.

Did xibalba get magical support. AWWW BOOOH. what will his stupidass mages cast with FIVE fucking precision? everything will hit their bats and sacreds more than you. They can summon skeletons...but they do't work quite well with fliers flying ahead of skeletons, do they?
what about you put up your mage support and watch a single buffed earth elemental go onto a rampage?

scared of bats sacred freespawn? Rain of stones, storm, anti-demon spells, and with summod beastmastery and xibalba is uninstalled.

>>167879816
bat troops, on their own, are unimpressive.

EA bats, the nation, however, is pretty nuts. The BEST expansion in the game, the BEST blood hunting, sacred blood summons (which effectively replace your actual zotz), and sacred freespawn. Their mages are good, and since evocation is really not at all a mainstay of most mage support, their precision mallus isn't even a thing.

>>167879296
>birds
>without national summons
>the nation of infinite free paths via national summons
NANIIIIII?!

Hey Japan, Malakal here.
Would you mind to get into the steamchat so we can discuss on details?

>>167881407
t. Malakal

>>167881407
Not until you admit that Nanking was a Chinese cover-up.

>>167881020

Useful, I said.

The bird summons are great for diversity and all, but you don't see anyone saying Bandar Log is great because it gets universal access to paths with it's nationals.

>>167881574
all caelum needs to be good is an air gem to astral pearl 1-1 converter ability like pelagia has

>>167881574
Come on, you can argue on any nation not having useful national summons, but Caelum has a LOT of great summons.

They get access to fucking N5, F5, E4, S4 via their national summons. You can literally get any paths thanks those.
Also they have an acceptable flying-ethereal thug-SC chasis that is sacred ahd has paths to move in magic phase (mistform helps, but not later on).

>>167882316

And that's nice. But Bats get a bazillion Ozelotl.

>>167879816
>It takes 200 bats to take Yomi's 25 capital PD it isn't even funny.
Is this an argument in favor of bats, or are you unclear on how easy it is to amass them?

>>167882645
That doesn't make birb summons not useful, though.

>>167879816
In summod, the StR batobs and 2 res instead of 1 res bats makes their expansion only slightly above average, instead of "lol, 50 provinces year 1, come at me bros".

Without summod, I have had 0 issues transitioning to ozzies mid year 2 - its not even hard. Might take longer with summod, due to less expansion. Your early bloodhunting though is the best in the game thanks to cheap dowsing flying blood hunters.

Xibalba as a nation has an EXTREMELY narrow vulnerability phase - from around roughly turns 10-20, though this is hardly precise. Before then, the bat swarm can seriously fuck people up - after then and its ozzies.

>>167877183
If they're that scary then Vanheim should be trying to remove them. They're much bigger than I am, and even better v bats. And they're better able to gank bats right now.

Instead, they are picking off their neighbors one by one while urging people to fight bats.

>>167886318

I wonder who else is trying to pick off their neighbors. Hmmm....

>>167886318
>Vanheim
>picking off neighbors
No shit, next you will tell me fish swim. Vanheim is on literally the other end of the planet and you are 4 provinces away.

>>167886318
>Urging people to fight bats.

I have? Also, blame it on shillwinter for not giving my dorfs, and all the indie commanders I recruit, sailing as well. I can only wonder why they didn't.

As an aside, I will begin selling storm staves soon if anyone is interested (at 0 markup).

>>167886318
Also, I simply could not let the opportunity to elf the same guy twice in one game pass. Shit like that doesn't happen in just any game.

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>1am
>no turns

>>167887573
>send in turn that got its 12 hour warning 5 hours ago while I was sleeping
>no new turn received
I had 7 hours left to send in my turn after a completely full day and still someone is slower than me

>>167886908
Vanheim now borders xibalba just as much as they bordered Fomoria. Thanks to sailing, they are at least as capable of hitting bats as I am.
>>167886523
I am literally your only reasonable option for expansion. I'm not going to ignore that.

>scripting for five big battles, takes like an hour
>wait 36 hours anxiously to see how they went
>only three of them take place
>two don't even trigger gem use so everyone goes off script turn one
>other battle effectively ends turn 2 due to a lucky rout
Oh well, at least I didn't lose anything... But I really am bad at predicting where my opponents will move, even when I have total scout coverage and obvious juicy targets. Attacking is so much easier than defending. Is there any secret to getting better at this other than experience?

>>167888632
I literally cannot sail to bats at all. I'm adjacent to them at exactly one province in the caves.

Like, you do realize I'm eating Ulm atm, not Marverni?

>>167889192
Just never stop attacking.

>>167824840
I join if someone redpill me on asphodel

>>167837234
same here
lets do a all nations are nazca?

>>167889606
That worked for a while, but now I'm facing a coalition of all of my neighbors.

>All this diplomonstering and posturing
>Not a single person changes their mind about anything.
Never change /domg/ never change. Only way you people get any deals done is by whispering sweet nothings in steamchat.

>>167890083
I'll write up a guide when I get home.

>>167890701
I just always try to kill bats first whenever I possibly can.

Everyone that can attack bats should. But especially Machaka and Vanheim.

>>167890697
You can always create a doomstack then make a beeline for their cap if you have effective thugs and raiders. basically just take everything their armies take the turn after they move and then keep enough back at your cap/forts that by the time they are forced to go for a decisive battle you've recruited an effective second army.

>>167890835
Machaka is too busy fighting Oceania . . . who was fighting bats. i.e. Machaka is a devoted Bat ally.

Vanheim at least is eating Ulm, who had been attacking a player who bordered bats, and was gearing up to actually fight bats. Annoying and opportunistic, but not literally allied with bats.

>>167890996
And to clarify I was assuming since you're at with multiple of themnyou're probably big enough to create more than 1 dooms stack. And of course do your best to turn them on each other.

/domg/ can't help but backstab each other. It's like the scorpion and the fox.

>>167890802
dont you dare meme rouse me!

>>167889454
>not adjacent
>adjacent in one cave province

What the fuck are you looking for?

>>167891630
I own that cave province. I can sail there, but with Ulm living could do nothing else - not even fucking fly to it. And if you think I'm not going to need mage support beyond Vanjarls and Vanadrotts to fight bats, you're insane.

>>167890996
>>167891320
Yes, I can effectively counter two of them at once with doomstacks and mage support, but not all four. My current plan is to knock out the weakest one with the bulk of my forces, set ambushes for the rest, and keep a constant back-and-forth of raiding provinces with bite-sized armies and solo mages the moment they move their stacks away to deny income. But it's pretty much become a stalemate, and that's not going to change unless I can decisively defeat their armies.

It's not a /domg/ game, unfortunately, and their alliance has been rock solid for 10 turns so far.

>>167836703
black?

What is everyone's favorite map, for SP, and in general?

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>>167891006
friendly reminder that oceania raided me first and bats have been nothing but fruitful, if the people calling for bats to be dead wanted bats dead they could have done it themselves, they are just trying to cover up remove elves

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>>167836909
Goddamn it Mari, I told you to preach that shit

>>167894343
t. MokouAtlantis
I'll name a tartarian in your memory, friend

Okay, Asphodel

So here's the story - they've got great cap only sacreds, freespawn that are effective early, and some midgame swarm and skelly spam stuff to make anything that has issues dealing with chaff have even bigger issues fighting you. They also have what are effectively freespawn behemoths from time to time, which opponents will need conj 5 elementals or similar levels of magic invested to counter.

Between their forest rec stuff and freespawn, they can amass a number of raiding parties on the cheap and use their units to fight effectively across a wide front, and between their centaurs and manikins they can make a versatile blob of units that requires multiple answers to counter.

The sleep vines on their manikin makes it hard to deploy thugs against them, since even a reinvigorating build will be quickly put to sleep, at which point anything can kill them.

Their end game is also fairly well built in, since they're a big D and N nation, which means Tartarians. Unlike other Tart oriented nations, they're more N focused which is nice since the ancillary costs to tarts (GoH and GoR) are typically actually a bigger expense than the D costs. A successful Aspho end-game involves Mother Oak up early, then GoH when you're nearing your tart production, WoM if you can manage to swing it, and lots and lots of crazy dead titans

Unfortunately, Aspho has a transparently weak midgame, as they lack the defensive edge of Pan's seducers as well as its buff paths. This means that Aspho needs to continue relying on its early game tools for much longer, which will steadily depreciate in value while its neighbors tech up, and the midgame magic that they do have is often countered by the same stuff that kills manikins. This means that you need to rely on snowballing hard within the first two years, overexpanding, invading someone early, and putting up an early Mother Oak, in order to have the resource edge necessary to take on other nations as they get their magic online (p1)

Asphodel also has a particular terrible weakness to Fire Elementals. The flame shield applies to sleep vines, meaning that your manikins will wail uselessly on the multi-form elementals and kill themselves even more quickly than regular skeletons do. The only efficient answer lies in making water elementals of your own, which requires a rare double W random or access to bracelets at Cons 6. Naturally that's a big investment in research, especially considering that many F nations will beeline for Conj 5 to field fire elementals against even less particularly vulnerable enemies. Your best bet against fire nations is just going to be to out-raid them and dodge fights whenever possible. If they try to use solo mages with a handful of bodyguards, you can also deplete their gems with sacrificial squads (though its worth noting that you get far fewer dudes than Ermor or the like).

As far as pretender design goes, because you're a popkill nation your first dumps are going to be Turmoil 3, Sloth 3, and [Temp] 3. There's arguments for either temp scale, though I prefer cold in most cases. Asphodel's freespawn actually scales based on growth, so G3 will both let you keep some semblance of income in your dom longer (as your popkill is a fair bit less than Ermor or Lemuria's) and give you more manikins throughout the game. However, since Luck and Magic are your sources of events and vital RP for summoned and recruitable mages alike, Growth would be the fourth scale to drop if you needed the points for a more Ermor-like build.

As far as your pretender goes, there's a bit of a variety available. W9 makes your centaur both significantly killier and harder to kill, which helps in using them to grow huge and kill someone quickly. N9 helps making them tankier, so they can live to use their berserk and more importantly makes N globals easier for you to keep up (and Mother Oak is mandatory). You can also opt for a rainbow-ish build if you know what paths you want, but rainbows suck.

>>167894343
>>167894826
i tried!!! i couldn't do it quick enough
thank you friend! and good luck

>>167895287
>>167896012
Some time ago I came up with a build but never tested

Imprisoned dom6 frost father. T3S3C3G3L3M3 A4W9E4D5 and 15 points leftover

What do you think about carrion lords thugs?

>>167891006
>Ulm, who had been attacking a player who bordered bats, and was gearing up to actually fight
The only parts of this that are true is that ULM attacked marveni, and marveni bordered bats. It was fully established that marveni was already fighting someone else, and had no way to contribute v bats.

As far as research goals go, you want Alt, Ench, Conj, and Evo. Ench gives your core battle magic, whereas Alt gives you Mother Oak and some useful utility spells. Conj and Evo are somewhat niche, and used to answer particular enemy tactics.

Conj 3 gives Wild Tangle, a scaling ensnare effect which is nice for your big N mages similar to how E nations love Earth Meld. Evo brings sleep cloud. Both of these are basically used to answer stuff that kills you too fast.

Alt 4 gives swarm and Alt 5 gives Mother Oak and Wooden Warriors. You want this if it's safe to take early, basically. If you need your battle magic online sooner, you go ench.

And yeah, ench is where it's at. Ench 5 gives foul vapors and horde of skeletons and ench 6 gives rigor mortis and grip of winter. Once you hit this point, many of your opponents' early game armies will stop working entirely.

>>167896307
Carrion Lord Thugs are solid raiders with their stealth, high HP pool, and built in resistances and recuperation, but they have poor combat stats (8 base att/def) so they don't fight enemy thugs well unless the enemy in question is vulnerable to sleep vines. In general, though, Aspho just doesn't need thugs. They raid/counterraid with squads of units (potentially stealthed). I'd only really bother with a Carrion Lord thug if you were fighting someone that went AI or a player that similarly used huge blobs of chaff with minimal and poorly scripted mage support.

>>167896714
Oh, and I forgot to mention Shadowblast under Evo. That's your only really good direct damage spell. If you're not winning a battle by running them over with centaur, odds are you're going to be fatiguing them out instead.

Asphodel's fluff is pretty cool and you've sold me on the crunch. I think I'll try them out in my next game.

>>167895287
>>167896012
>>167896714
somebody put this on the wiki

>>167897601
no u

>>167897601
>somebody else do it
This is why our wiki is as it is.

>>167897663
>>167897778
Fine, if I mess something up, dont hold it on me

>>167897961
We will :^)

>set up beautiful new monitor
>use it to play Dominions

why can't there be any games this good with modern graphics?

>>167898002
just let me make up a name as I am not registered yet

IRON BLIZZARD

should there be another japanese mythos nation

>>167891006
>. . .
Oh my, who might it be?

>>167901050
Someone who means to confuse me into thinking that by not attacking bats, Vanheim is practically attacking bats.

Ulm getting elfed twice proved that he was a retard, but Vanheim's other neighbors better start ganging up on him while he's busy pleasuring steel maidens.

>>167901895
My baser instincts washed over me, I literally could not resist.

>>167894072
>2Golem
LMAO

2GOLEM!1!

How is kichikuo going?

>>167898158
Dominions with the graphics of The Witcher 3 would melt most computers.

dem seduction attempts tho

>>167900643
Sure. And more Chinese and Indian too. Plenty to explore there compared to the overdone Norse and Greek stuff.

>>167906002
Japan is fine but we don't need more representation from the unwashed hordes of continental Asia

>>167900643
I want to know where the hell the 'MURICA! nation is.

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hey anybody else troubled by the fact that nick plays on three different accounts and generally allies with himself each time?

think about it

fourthturning he is the admin so we can't say anything about it, and community clash "they" are all on the same team??

sometimes he pits himself against himself but i'm pretty sure nick is the leader behind the tri-diplomonster gang aranickzeon

remove elves

>>167890083

Dump: turmoil, sloth
mandatory scales: luck, growth, magic
consider going to cold 3 since undead/manikins dgaf
high dom isnt super necessary, since you have cheap temples, but you will be on peoples radar so they will attack/raid your shit.

black centaurs expand like fucking beasts with w9, but are otherwise awesome. keep in mind you also get forest recruitment, so a satyr party can expand too. your startingarmy can blind expand if you're not surrounded by heavy cav.

also remember you can throne up pretty much any province with a fort + lab since you can summon an H3.

>>167893607

For SP? Valanis. it's pretty, and has pretty much every terrain type. If im testing expansion for a specific game though, i try to use the map for the game.

>>167908639
Nah, they're different people.

>10

Looks like community clash will be on its 5th restart soon.

This time Jotunheim was apparently placed on the wrong team.

>>167908639
They're different people. They do know each other, though, and that seems to lead to collusion, especially between Nick and Aran.

>>167913285
This isn't quite accurate - usually Aran/Nick start on opposite ends of the map, so they rarely do more than info trade. Oh, and spend hours in the steam chat conspiring against each other.

It's the Nick/Lukas tag team you need to watch out for. Don't think those two have ever fought in any game ever. And Lukas is always right next to Nick it seems - he's Niefel in 4th.

>9

>>167914137
>Oh, and spend hours in the steam chat conspiring against each other.
Ask me how I know you're Aran.

But seriously, you shouldn't expect anyone to believe that you're conspiring against Nick when you haven't been trying to get any of his neighbors to fight him when he's snowballing.

Why are Machakans clean shaven?

>>167918681
To smoothly steal your gf.

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>>167918820
ey gurl

>>167918968
That's a big club.

>>167919010
uuuu

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>>167886991
>>167887135

I got a lot of in-game messages about you invading me, so my guess is you are doing a lot of diplo.

Also Arco attacked me saying he needed to help you kill me, or my intransigence would result in bats taking over the world, so I can kinda guess at the content of that diplo.

That said, come at me, keeb. I'm gonna show you how we do it roundear style.

>>167901895

You're assuming I didn't lure vanheim onto my lands purposefully. Once his vanjarls and vanhere are dead, skyrim will belong to the germans.

>>167921517
>I got a lot of in-game messages about you invading me
>I still attacked a neighbor on my other side and got butt-fucked by elves that had attacked me before
that seems pretty fucking stupid, ngl

>>167914137

t. nickaranzeon

>>167914137
so why IS Lukas Nick's buttboy anyways?

>>167921653

The messages arrived the turn I got elfed. Less than helpful. It would have been nice if I could finish off marverni before elves arrived, but it's fine. I got another fort and enough gold to spam more maidens, and that still puts me in a better position to resist them. I'd probably be in a better position if I was willing to do endless diplo but I just don't have the time (or the energy). Fighting off elves is way more fun, anyway.

>>167921806
It just seems to me that fighting a neighbor on the other side of the elf bastards that you know attacked you seems dumb. You can still take provinces if the elves are fighting someone else, and if they're not then it's even more important for your troops to be fighting them since every province you take reduces the resources they have to invade you.

>>167921517
Arco's, uh, attack was pretty funny. Ulmish PD apparently stronk.

>>167906002
Actually we don't have much legitimately Greek stuff. Plenty of Roman and Roman accessories, but only Arco for Greece (which misses a lot).

Norse have cool themes but are literally shit aesthetically. And I don't think we have any haakka paalle Finnish autism a la kalevala.
>>167906585
Shit taste my friend.

>>167926597
>but only Arco for Greece (which misses a lot).
And Pan and Asphodel and (sorta) Therodos. I'm a huge hellaboo but it's hard for me to think of more to add for them.

>And I don't think we have any haakka paalle Finnish autism a la kalevala.
That's actually a surprising omission now that you mention it.

>>167926597
Aren't a lot of the generic summons greek?

Tarts, Kydnids, Kokythiai, All the clockwork and mechanical stuff...

And aren't a lot of the pretender chassis greek-inspired as well?

>>167926884
That stuff's all "sorta". Plus I was thinking of actual Greece, rather than bits of myth used as inspiration for fantastic nations.

I'm actually a hellaphobe (othwerwise known as a homophobe).
>>167926960
Yes they are, but desu that's forgivable given the nature of European gods.

>>167926960
Yes.

>>167927046
>Plus I was thinking of actual Greece, rather than bits of myth used as inspiration for fantastic nations.
Yes that's all more interesting to me than their mythology but it doesn't suit the game's focus.

>I'm actually a hellaphobe (othwerwise known as a homophobe).
Classical Greece was not nearly as gay as it's currently portrayed. Except Sparta. They loved boipussy so much they almost died from lack of breeding.

>>167927129
Sure it does. Marignon gets inquisitors because it is inspired by Spain. Ulm gets barbarians in the beginning and bloodthirsty barons in the end because it is inspired by Big Bad Germany. Mictlan gets Jaguar warriors. LA Tien Chi is inspired by the actual Mongols. And given the nature of ancient Greece, their "actual" history is pretty mythological.

>>167927226
And Arco gets hoplites, oracles, and philosophers. Later on phalangites and hetairoi instead. No triremes, but there's no naval warfare really now.

>>167927304
Yes, Arcoscephale does exist.

>>167927421
So what do you want added, specifically?

>>167927529
I don't. I don't much like Greece.

>>167927558
Thanks for your totally redundant and pointless addition to the conversation then.

>>167927618
Thank you for making up for my own lack of contribution then faggot.

>>167928754
That's what your mum said when I fucked her raw

>>167928890

his mum's pretty badass then

10/10 would hatefuck

>>167922283

I put that in there in case pan decided to attack at some point. was sick of losing battles I shouldn't have been losing against crappy units.

>>167921946

Couldn't push the forces I had through that choke. Vanheim works off the cap mostly. Attacking the cap leaves you vulnerable to sail raiding on this map, as well as causing them to defensive movement trap your ass. I preferred to get big and hope elves would be busy elveswhere. And then kill them later with real magic and more troops.

Could somebody let me know where bat country is?

>>167930905
The sea

>>167930982
I knew that already.
But where is his cap?

>>167931210
dont worry
we are already onto that
take care of the sea

>>167931736
>Oy vey, don't worry about it goy.
t. Bats

>>167931804
REMOVE ELF

What's the point of pillaging

>>167932684
raising unrest in a province you're not gonna be able to hold to spit in your opponents eye is about the only real use for it

blood hunting is the better way to do that though

>>167932684
Guerrilla economy-damage when you don't expect to hold raided provinces.

>>167930905
hey ctis, your friends the dead birds are asking for a shambler skin armor
you know what he is going to do with that :wink:

AbsoluteMAdMAn has started
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AbsoluteMAdMAn

just in case Mictlan didn't notice it, it's set to host in just 20 hours.

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>>167933321
pic related

>>167932684
Quickly raising unrest before an important battle as Yomi or Lanka.

>Sniffleheim has gone AI
>immediately attacks me
>trying to push Atlantis off the land
>Arco's last two Oreides making a nuisance of themselves
Ag fok

>>167932684
Forcing someone to attack you by doing it in their cap ring.

>>167936650
I never noticed that it's Ulm. Always assumed it's Mictlan/Xibalba pulling off stupid blood spells.

>>167937678
I thought it was MA Abyssia.

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Can we just forcehost?
That guy is chainstalling as you know.

>>167930019
Getting through the choke isn't that difficult. Either use amphibious items, or stealth. Or both. That's what AT ULM did.

>>167932684
getting money and collecting salt when you have 0 income and no chance to come back

>>167933914
A damn shame. Was it because he's getting defeated or rl concerns?

it's because he knew domg was dying and abandoned ship

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>sitsearch your provinces they said

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>>167943149
>story events

Does chaff help against soul slay spam, or will the still target your highest HP units first?

>>167943380
Some "chaff" has high HP, and there's always a measure of randomness in spell targeting.

>>167943380
t. niefelheim

>>167943573
H-how did you know?

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>>167943634

>>167943727
Nice Windows 98 m8.

>>167943820
ty its for the aesthetic

>>167940086
RL. He had no time for turns

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>>167943149
I don't want to fight that guy.

>>167944489
Control Undead

>>167945571
18 MR

>>167945646
>he's never charmed throne titans

>>167945646

Yeah, pretty low. You should be able to manage with a couple D mages easy, so long as you've got a skelespammer to keep him occupied while they cast.

Where the fuck is Mictlan

>>167945771
I'd still need a bunch of research.
I guess a bunch of sword barbarians would rout before beating that guy up?

>>167944489
skeletons or elementals.

>>167945896

Maybe? It's got shit for defence and prot, so forty Barbs should be able to take it out easily enough.

>>167945896
yep

>>167945896
maybe, it highly depends on how the fear checks will work out.

>>167946038
it has fear
barbs have morale 9

>>167946918

Fear only matters if it can force a morale check.

>>167947103
Are you saying they won't get any?

>>167947170

They might. But it's gonna kill one a turn tops, so two squads on a +1 morale commander should be fine.

>want to play LA
>look at the inspector in search of a nation
>don't want to play LA anymore