/ng/ - Nioh General

So is there any point to making other characters/builds? It seems with the way Titles work they want you to be using a shit ton of different weapons and styles on one gamefile anyway.

When do I get ground fire bombs?

>>167771906
Play how you want. I think in this game you probably want to focus on a set path, or you will have more trouble later on if you scattershot all the stats evenly. I have had more success focusing on a couple things than everything, at least in the betas.

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Who 3kat/heavy armor/magic masterrace here? You're literally unstoppable.

>>167771906
That's what it seems like with the titles. The softcap is so low and you get so many skill points its easy to switch things up on the fly. Plus respeccing is pretty cheap.

>>167772792
>softcap
Do you mean that the stats are softcapped like in dark souls? If so, at what level does the soft cap start?

>>167774129
10

So what's the point of heavy armor when not being at A agility fucks up your ki to a ridiculous extent, everything oneshots past a certain point regardless of armor, and the improved blocking is meaningless when everything either gets stunlocked to death without being able to attack, or a boss whose attacks either do damage through blocks or are entirely unblockable?

I wonder if your starting weapon choices has any impact on drops. I picked 1kat and spear, and I seemore of those drop than anything else it seems. Have only gotten a few 2kats and kusari, quite a few axes though
Probably just my imagination and bad luck

>>167774129
Everything seems to start to plateau around the low 20s. You only need 20 in Magic and Dex to unlock ninjutsu and magic mystic arts missions too.

The damage boosts from specific stats is pretty insignificant anyway, the boosts tonhealth/ki/skills isnmore important.

>>167774409
fucking what? That seems extremely low for a soft cap.

>>167774759
i don't know why people say that's "the" soft cap. there are many soft caps, and they're extremely soft. in nioh the stat will lose like 25% of its effectiveness at each soft cap, in BB it's 50% at the first cap and 90% at the second

no one has written a minmax guide yet but i'm at 25 skill and i still get good attack per level

>>167775272
what are your other stats like? i was thinking of getting them all to ten. i did it in the demos but i don't know if it's efficient.

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1kat master race reporting in.

I remember him being way harder in the beta

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Who is the guy with the Bat Spirit? I didn't catch his name, his movie made it seem like he was trying to fuck with both sides so all the boring stuff would go away.

>>167776428
i've been going hard on skill, magic and spirit only. the only other thing i have is enough body to equip the best light armor i've found

i don't think anyone understands "efficiency" yet. you can minmax one stat (like health or attack), but there's a lot of stats (like the "Ki Pulse" stat, which is improved by Skill) that no one really knows the value of

i do think that body is maybe a bit underpowered compared to stamina, since stamina gives you almost as much health and armor is actually good. if the "ki pulse" stat is good then strength and skill are probably underrated, and if so then heart is probably overrated, assuming you get more stamina overall from "ki pulse"

respeccing is EXTREMELY EASY so don't worry about it imo. if you're choosing your initial stats i think the best choice is body (you need it for armor), spirit (obviously), and either heart, skill or stamina (not sure)

Should I bother leveling heart when using 2kat?

>>167777015
i'm very good at fluxing and have 25 skill, and it's still possible to run out of stamina with base heart. so it's clearly not a worthless skill, but i don't know what the value per point is

we're so early and respeccing is so easy that i would encourage you to try extreme builds, you might invent something

>>167777015
It helps with ki decently. I focus on Heart/Skill/Magic for my 1kat/2katmedium armor setup. And the extra ki is nice from heart.

Also people dont forget to spend prestge points from titles. You get to pick one of 4 possible buffs and when you buy one itngets replaced with another andom one. I didn't realize there were two sets of prestige points that you can switch between with the shoulder buttons. There's lots of extra stat boosts you can get.

What exactly is the fucking deal with hammers doing significantly less damage than axes?

>>167778251
Hammers bust through guards/stamina more effectively than any other weapon, while Axes just do a shit ton of damage.

>Body
>weapon mainly affected - spear
If i level body i get +1 attack
If i level Skill i get +2 attack

what the fuck

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Is spirit as OP as it seems? You get so many stats for putting points into it as well as making your spirit animal stronger

Is there a certain weight you dont want to go over for dodging or something?

>>167779075
sounds like you hit the soft cap for Body.

>>167779341
I just try to stay in the "blue" (under 30%) area, people probably haven't figured out iframes per weightclass yet

>>167777929
Is there a finite number of boosts it cycles through, so when you're finished with titles you'll always have the same boosts?

>>167779092
Not OP, but you definitely want to level it to keep up with spirit bonuses along the way

>>167779341
Never go beyond 70%
<30% in ninja mode

>>167779075
not even close.
Body is at 10 and Skill is at 18 and i still get more dmg from skill.

>>167779075
>>167779465
>>167779820
it rounds, so per point there is a lot of variation. you need to look at a lot of levels (like 5) to know which is better overall. i had the same confusion, i thought str > skl for 2kat but it was just rounding

I beat Hinoenma first try with 1kat when I had a shitload of trouble in the beta with 2kat and resorted to cheesing with a spear. I also beat Onryoki first try just using 1kat.

Either they made the game easier or 2kat is shit

>>167782165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcZHhnE8BI

>tfw i beat her add in the demo
>tfw I changed up my build completely from demo and beat her after 3 tries on release

im pretty happy anon but I dumped 2kat after demos

>>167782165
Maybe that's why I can't take that bitch down with kat2.

>>167782165

2Kat is shit for sure. It's also likely you got better. Still, 2kat is shit.

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Whats up with the 1kat types are these just skins or are they actually doing something?????? Like hammer attacking the stamina more than axes even though same class ( pic related one of the 1kat types)

Is there a comprehensible guide to using the blacksmith?

I can't get my head around it.

What's wrong with 2kat

>>167784367
>he doesnt know

fucking lmao

>>167782992
The magic of 1kat, shit the bed and still kill the boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6sVRVFCMvg

>>167784367
Nothing. It's great for crowds and for speed. It's high stance is great at taking out Oni horns.

3kat is godly

>>167784367
2kat is OP but only if you
1. have an element on it
2. you can flux

i've run 2kat in beta, last chance and main game, i've had zero issue with it at any point, 1shot every boss in the first region no problem. that might be "skill," but if you prefer cheese then spamming the tornado whirl is completely braindead damage and easily procs the yin-yang debuff

I'm trying to figure out how to use dual swords in a way that isn't shit. Their damage to ki ratio seems just terrible and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Should I not be pumping points into Skill? Should I be putting more emphasis into status ailments or whatnot?
Thanks for the help

>>167785897
Switch to 1kat, thank me later

what the actual fuck do I do against umi bozu?

>>167785373
When is the earliest I can get an element 2kat?

What are some good but unusual weapon combinations? Not spear/kat, or 3kat, but something like axe/kusari or spear/2kat

>>167787306
what's a 3kat?3 handed katana? ;^)

>>167779075
I'm pretty sure that means that spears are the weapon most effected by the body stat, not that body does the most for it.

>>167787398
2kat + kat

>>167782992
>>167783482
>>167783646
Tf man I switched to 1Kat as you said and downed the bat bitch in 1 try after dying on her 20 times with 2kat.

Can you get Hanzos cat spirit as your own?

Where do you get the smithing text for Muneshige's armor?

>Hinno Enma kicking my ass
>Finally decide to try standard katanas
>Get her to 3/4's
>UNLEASH THE DOGE
>Destroy her before the living weapon ends
I was impressed.

I swear to christ I've lost 60k+ amrita on this fucking boat village map just to falling into the ocean

>>167786982
as a random drop, as soon as the game starts. i found one in isle of demons

unfortunately, i think the earliest guaranteed one is in the spider castle in region 3 (it's really good, though)

you can force the issue by just carrying onmoyo buff magic. you should do this anyway because switching buffs to apply 2 elements destroys bosses

>>167788575
you can apply multiple element buffs at the same time?
And right now I can only carry 2 buff talismans and they don't last very long, does that change any time soon?

>>167787761

Yeah, they really dropped the ball hard with 2Kat.

>>167788024
no
he's a boss

>>167783827
I've been wondering that myself. Those 1kat even look a bit longer to me but that might just be my imagination.

>>167788681
Not at the same time, but one after the other.

>>167788681
your weapon can only do 1 element type at a time. this is important, because if you get 2 different elemental debuffs on any demon at the same time, its ki bar gets destroyed (special effect). so applying 1 debuff and then switching (by using charms or popping living weapon) is extremely powerful. however, it's not trivial to do. you need a weapon that is good at it (probably 2kat or kusu, something fast) and you need to use elements that the boss is actually weak to (so you have to carry a lot of charms)

i've been walking around with like 4 elements (weapon, spirit, 2 charms) and it's been pretty satisfying to figure out

>>167788692
Dang. He looked cool.

>>167788690
Tbh comparing the two I think the biggest problem with 2kat is that you sometimes trigger an uncontrollable combo which makes you vulnerable as fuck, while at the same time not doing enough damage as a 1kat hit when you don't hit the combo.

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for a new game this general is kinda dead.

>>167790443
we're too busy playing dingus

Getting this game tomorrow, what weapons should I go for? I used a single katana and spear before on the tests but I'm debating if I should keep the same playstyle as I've done previously.

>>167790631
Kusarigama

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Vampire waifu took me 13 tries

Breddy fun fight

batlady was by far the most difficult encounter for me in the entire first region. Nue and the "pssh nottin personnel kid" lad from the demo was pushovers compared.

I like all the weapons and switch often. What do I do with my stats?

Can I just get 10 in everything and then from there focus on more hp and ki and be able to use all weapons?

>>167790631
i always preferred kusu and 2kat, but for what it's worth the expanded kat and spear movesets in the main game have some attractive shit, like getting-up attacks and LW special attacks

>>167791340
yes. attack scaling from stats is not very significant. stats are mainly for min requirements and to affect player attributes such as ki

kick or the aoe sword blast thing

which is better

The more I play, the more I feel like heavy armor is more trouble than it's worth. You get ki starved quick, even with pulse, and bosses can break through your block pretty easily anyway.

1 Kat, Magic, low and mid stance only master race

>>167791584
I like the kick personally as it doesn't leave you as open if you miss.

why can't i refashion my shit to look like the DLC armor

Finally off work and started my download. I'm hype lads. Thinking 2kat Axe Magic. Shit worked like a charm in 'beta' and last chance.

Does anyone know what the earth status effect does? And why would anyone make the effect dark purple?

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They made a Nioh movie with Mat Damon

I am a scrub.. I have tried for the past two hours to defeat the vampire.
Any tips and tricks on defeating that flying paralyzing vampire chick?

what disguises are available?

I'm on technically the first stage, the fishing village. New to these types of games, and it's been great so far. Learning the ins and outs of combat, etc.

I just reached my "I quit for a few days" point in the first level. Can anybody tell me how the living hell I can avoid the patches of fire on the ground entirely while also progressing through the village to where I'm meant to go? I can't find any passages to the other segment of town, and from there, the shoreline without having to honestly sprint through the fire. I'm already out of healing items. Still with zero Amrita due to dying a copious amount of times solely because of the fire damage providing the enemies thereafter with extreme ease in killing me.

I'm considering this game.
Does it have the usual... features from a Team Ninja game ?

>>167792951
Isn't this that great wall movie coming out next friday? Half tempted to see how he SCIENCES THE SHIT outta this

>>167793334
look for the ladders.

>>167793296
basically every single male character in the game

>>167793149
1. it's very difficult to dodge her spin, so hold up your block at all times.
2. you can block the first hit of everything except the lunge, but if it's anything other than the spin you should dodge after the first hit, and then punish once she finishes
3. you have to know the telegraph for the lunge to dodge it, with everything else you can wait and see

a few random facts
1. you can use paralytic needles while paralyzed to cure it
2. you can parry her torpedo swoop
3. draining her ki with kicks will destroy her, but if you're not comfortable with purifying yokai pools then just use high stance attacks for the straight damage

vamp was a "git gud" moment for many people in the beta

>>167793375
Incredibly, no. It's a surprisingly tasteful presentation.

>>167792951
>about China
>deals with Sengoku Japan
You tried

>>167794075
>but if you're not comfortable with purifying yokai pools then just use high stance attacks for the straight damage
Better advice:
If you're not comfortable with purifying yokai pools, get comfortable with purifying yokai pools. Learn it sooner rather than later.

>>167793334
you can go around all the fires by climbing ladders on to the roofs. i would say that's the first hard sequence since it's a long haul, but at one point there's a water tower you can push over to put out some fire and open up a backtrack route

>>167794229
that is better advice

this game is unique in that it's "easy" so long as you're using all the core mechanics. if you try to cut one out then things get really hard. you can't ever be like "i'm going to never block and only use low stance"

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>>167793905
no female that makes me sad

>>167793149
Switch to a spear, even if you've never used one and aren't leveled for it stat-wise. I was pure dex for kusarigama but its range is shit for her unless you use the longer wind up which she kept avoiding or trading blows with.

Just keep your distance with a few feet and carefully prod with mid-stance weak attack on spear. It takes a while and I'm sure there are easier ways but it's safe.

>>167793375
>>167794112
it's frustratingly tasteful, i feel like i'm owed some amazing chest fox wizard

are the ninja weapons still nerfed in the real game?

i liked using the c4 and smokebombs to cheese yokai

>>167794229
This. Sometimes you just have to git gud.

>>167794172
Movie based in China is the only way it would make a billion dollars.

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>having difficulty with Nue
>discover that if you hit it in the face at all during any lightning attack it instantly drains all its ki and you can wail on it like crazy
damn I was making that a whole lot harder than I needed to

also either Muneshige in the side mission, not Kelley impersonating him was either way nerfed from the beta or I just fought him enough in the beta that I knew everything and it was ggez

>>167794598
I'd be very ok with that. Probably too much to hope for a fox on the same level as Muramasa huh?

>>167794460
My god, I can't stress this enough.

refusing to employ the mechanics available to you and insisting on stubbornly sticking to certain ones just smacks of those deviantart shitters who insist that they're "not bad at drawing, it's just my style" yet never display the fundamental understanding of anatomy necessary to form your own boundaries.

Make sure you understand the way the game actually works properly before you start insisting on doing it your way.

>>167792568
Makes any action drain double ki which is useless on most youkai

>Great Centipede
Worst boss fight of the generation

>>167777929
Is there anything particularly good to focus on early off? Like my first set has living weapon durability, +50 which seems insane when early armor had like +1 or +2. Otherwise it's luck +3 and pitiful amrita bonus and yokai realm

>>167795715
>which is useless on most youkai
if you think ki drain is useless against yokai you don't know shit

>>167791634
Name one game where heavy armor is actually useful

>>167796064
Dark Souls III

>>167796064
Fallout 4

>>167796064
dark souls 1

situationally useful, but useful nonetheless

>>167796183
every situation

>equip light armor
>die in 2 hits
>equip heavy armor
>still die in 2 hits
So what's the point?

>>167796270
>>167796183
well, everything is a situation, so technically we're both right

>>167796356
To show who's bad

What % of armor / weight is classified as lightest?

What's the deal with the Twilight missions, how do I make them change out to something else? I had a level 50 one earlier and as soon as I beat the pre-req mission for it, it changed out to something else.

>>167796550
they cycle every day

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>Bowing to the Wall Yokai and matching the Mimic's emotes

This is my absolute favorite thing. If one of the Mimics ends up with the High Five gesture and we actually high five I'm going to lose my shit.

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GUYS! Guys. The only thing's stopping me from buying this game is uncertainty. Can you play those girls from trailers? The one with kunai and with spear (I think)

>Kusarigama vs Giant centipede
it's fucking shit don't bother.
spear or katana is the way to go

>>167796528
Below 30

>>167796837
no you idiot

is it worth it to do a onmyo build? I aren't that far in the game and currently my idea of a heart/spirit build is.. well worthless.

>>167796870
But they promised. The team of ninjas promised me...

Can you high five people online? I got summoned and we both held up our hands to do it, and I guess I expected it to automatically do the actual thing, like in say Army of Two.

>>167796927
You're weak and you just started. Everything will seem weak unless you shoot for obvious big numbers. Omnyo's more of a supplement to any build like ninjutsu.

>>167796991
i tried last night and it wouldn't connect

guess it's just a pose

>>167797041
>>167796991
You should be able to, it's just really precise/not obvious.

>>167797008
I know that it is still early and whatnot but that vampire chick is kicking my butt.
Bu I guess I will just have to git gut

>>167796991
Close out of the Gesture menu after you do the emote and then press X to complete the high face.

So did we seriously see every single enemy in the entire game in the demos?

Is it just me or is Nobunaga's wife actually really fucking hard?

>>167797256
Play more defensively

>Wind turbines only stay on for a short time

I HATE POISON AREAS

WHY GOD WHY CANT I ESCAPE POISON AREAS

>>167797313
high five* I have a headache

>>167797365
Were the tongue demons in the demo?

>>167797463
Kill the rocks that spew poison. They dont regenerate

>>167787306
I use kusarigama/axe but I've been sticking with the kusarigama 99% of the time because I'm dumping all my points into dex. I only switch to axe for Muneshige because his super armor is bullshit against kusarigama and he just rolls away too much to stagger him.

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>>167797463
>catacombs
followed by
>Mines filled with poison
;^)

>>167797529
>Were the tongue demons in the demo?
yes

>>167797365
spiders and the weird flying spiritfu things weren't in

Ninjitsu or Onmyo Magic?

>>167799028
Both if only for the passives

is this like dark souls 3 where armor is mostly cosmetic?

So what ninjutsu are worth picking up? Mostly been rolling medium armor with spear and katana and magic, but I've got lots of ninja points to spend. Bought some ammo limit improvements and the backstab ability. The anti-poison pills will probably be good too. Shuriken and kunai seem largely useless, except for applying elements I guess for the yinyang debuff

>>167799171
Both? it becomes more important later on but it has possibly the greatest transmog ever in place so you can do both.

>>167799325
I meant more in terms of whether it actually contributes anything to defense
Whether there's any point in using heavier armor over the lightest rags you can find

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>the bats in the 3rd mission that knock you off the ledge

>>167799785
I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Luckily apparently everyone else on /v/ is smarter than us:

>Hurrdurr there were fuckin bat sounds in the cave, how did you get knocked off git gud faggot

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>>167799785
>Dying over and over to vamp
>So now I just rush to her area when I respawn
>Fuck up my timing and get knocked off by the bats 2/5 the time

What's the best starting weapon if you like to attack fast?

>>167799932
>getting bootyblasted over an obvious ez trap
you really do need to git gud

>>167799957
When you run you don't get hit.

What weapon are you using? Bat bitch comes piss easy with 1kat or spear.

>>167799957
There's a shrine in the big cave room with all of the yokai, so you shouldn't have to deal with any bats other than the ones right before her

>>167799701
It definitely matters.

anyone got any tips for falling snow boss? she get too fucking crazy in phase 2 and i'm not getting any summons

>>167800136
I beat her now, I meant when I was stuck on her.
>>167800141
I didn't know that

>>167800049
Dual swords

>>167799701
It might not seem like it at first, but it becomes more evident later in the game. Toughness also helps and might be more valued in the beginning but that's debatable depending on how you play

The bosses in this game need MAJOR balancing.

>Can defeat you in a handful of hits
>William barely does damage
>Because of this you have to turtle around for most fights

>>167800049
Kusari/dual swords
>>167800417
Or you know, stop being dumb and pl

>>167800235
Yuki-Onna? When she starts spamming that charge impale move, I keep my distance. Go low stance to dodge her ice shards easier, dodge away when she's mid-charge and once she stops get hits in, dodge a few seconds later when she's charging her AoE around her, then get more hits in, disengage, rinse repeat

>the side-mission to fight the giant axe guy on the bridge
HOW are you supposed to do this? Just whittle him down slowly or some shit? Cause his health pool is bonkers

>>167800505
thanks anon, what seems to get me the most is the constant icicle spam, next to impossible to dodge some of them but maybe im too close when she uses it

>>167800540
literally just kick him off the edge, you miss what he drops but you still get the mission loot

>>167800446
>Bosses have attacks that do too much damage
>Also have no real wind down
>Stamina means nothing to them unlike other enemies
>"Fair"

>>167800804
Sounds like you're mad because you're bad and you think supernatural enemies should play by the same rules of your badness

what are the top tier endgame armor sets?

>>167800804
>no real wind-down
What game are you playing? Literally every boss has at least one, sometimes more "Big Attack and then BIG FUCKING OPENING" move

>>167800804
Hehe butt hurt as fuck. Git gud or ask for tips, stop complaining about mechanics.

>>167794826
no fucking wonder I am having so much trouble with it. I am fighting it with the standard "stay on it's side/ass" strategy and it doesn't work most of the time. Man I love this game.

>just got to Nue
Jesus Christ this fucker hits like a freight train
and I'm even over leveled according to the mission level

>>167801108
Not really. I'm fighting Nue right now and when he does a big attack, he just claws me straight away or his tails bites me.

>>167801234
It's bad game design.

>>167801331

Nue is the easiest boss. The doorway where you come in blocks his lightning (except when he recovers his stamina).

>>167794826
>>167801246
The tummy also works

>>167800681
>>167800505
>just ran around the outside of the area on 2nd phase
>she can only charge a certain distance
>kill her without getting hit after 20 odd deaths

WEW

What the fuck happened to soul matching costs? It jumped from 40kish to literally over a million gold.

How long do elemental effects last from the kunai? In theory you could use two different kunai to quickly stack effects, yeah?

>had tons of trouble with Hino Emma or whatever
>finally trash her after leveling a bit and learning her attacks, and special thanks to the fire dog for literally raping her to death
>progress is smooth sailing
>do the sub quests, get the water dragon spirit
>beat the Nue on fourth attempt (thanks purifying and fire dog)
>progressed through at the 3rd shrine in the catacombs after nue, leveled my spirit to 13 so I can get +125% Amritia with this water dragon
>about to step forward with this ninja chick

Almost got stuck in the catacombs but finally made it through.

This water dragon seems insanely useful for farming since that's double amrita gained, and levels are starting to become damn hard to come by.

Also, leveling strength is a waste, Axes suck dick, and swords are the shit. Level your heart, and spirit is probably best advice in the game.

>>167801410
>Nue doesn't have wind down
Don't lie so obviously

>>167801331
Gets lots of rifle and hand cannon ammo and fire at him from a distance. Brings arrows as well.

You can pretty much demolish him using those weapons.

>>167801598
Rush spirit to 9/10 is the best thing you can do for your first few levels. Picking the shark helps jump start it

>>167801582
They should last as long as the effect would coming off a weapon, yeah.

>>167801808

I'm learning. I leveled Strength to 18 first. I've pretty much abandonned axes at this point.

I think the swords are just the most balanced weapon. I'm using that sword from Ieyasu's subquest line and its pretty good. Bull spirit seems useless, Dragon spirit seems really good for in general level traversal

Also I shot a Kappa in the face with a cannon and almost one shot it in the catacombs. Fuck those guys.

>>167801971
Dragon's good for a passive, Shark is also good for general level traversal because of enemy sense

>>167802069
Hows Shark for fighting bosses like the bat lady? I trashed her with dog, and I'm not sure shark would be as effective.

>>167802197
>using spirits on bosses
Joke aside, I'm not sure. I have a tendency to not use spirits on bosses because I get too caught up and forget about them.

>tengu actually fists your ass on a no ki crit

>when you get a 0.2% trophy that's not even hidden or anything.

Fuck, am I going 2 fast?

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>UMI-BOZU BLACK BLOB FAGGOT
>fire enchant is a MUST
>forced to waste 1 fire talisman to take out the 3 adds
wew

>>167802860
Which trophy

>>167802918

Kill al 6 giant spiders in the castle on the 3rd japan map

Is there a way to leave a mission besides beating it or using a branch? I wanted to snag a kodama I missed and it was early off in the stage

>>167802197
I like the shark because of the minor health absorb in close combat. It's nice when you've got heavy armor and take some small hits to quickly recover. The extra life and enemy sense in general is great for a starting spirit, and the +1 spirit from picking it gets you a good start.

>Nioh
>NieR

What's next, Japan? NiMH?

>>167802860
Only like 16% of online players have beaten Hino-enma according to trophies

I'm not sure what my problem is but I'm a souls borne vet and fucking Onryoki has killed me 5+ times today.

These boss battles take a long time and I get more and more over it as I go and make mistakes. Hrm.

>>167803205
What are you struggling with in particular? I died like 10 times against him in the alpha and felt like I was making no progress until I realized that just hugging and running around him was much better than trying to dodge or otherwise circle around.

>>167802860
The games broken right now, so not many people are probably playing it.

>>167803205
Farm for healing stuff. Strafe him and learn his Telegraph for the one move that hits behind him. Bait his forward slam. Pop your super for second for. Bait the splash only and kill it.

>>167802860
>>167803204
>tfw only beat the first mission and the first side mission

I wish I had more free time. Also that side mission was disappointing. There were like 30+ revenants through out the level, so I kept expecting some big bads to show up and wreck my shit. Turns out it was nothing but human enemies grunts and one hidden minor oni. How anyone died in that mission is beyond me. Human enemies are easy as fuck.

>>167803064
Trophies like that tend to go overlooked the first few weeks because they're so specific. I don't pay any attention to trophy lists until I beat the game and if I really enjoyed it I'll consider going back to platinum it.

>>167803424
Okay sure

>>167803482

Me neither man, it's just the way it works in that mission, you will see, it made me think that it was a pre requisite to finish it. I won't spoil it for you but it looked like a design mechanic and it ended up being a collectible thing. In any case, go for it when you get there, you won't regret it, it's a lot of fun chasing them around on that one map.

>>167803424
Go back to /r/Nioh with your whining. Nobody wants to carry you through the game anyway.

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>>167803205
>move towards him
>strafe behind when he does a forward attack
>get 2 hits
>backoff before he spins
EZ

don't get greedy

>>167803357

The big thing is the damn spin attack. It's only the first stage but I tend to empty ki and use the pulse which doesn't give me enough to dodge out of it. It's so easy to get wrapped up in a full combo when he doesn't do it that when he does I get hit.

That aside, I really just think it's just rushing because it takes a while. Also, I tend to get clipped by some things that are hard to fully dodge.

greed is the #1 reason for death in this game

just take it slow and you'll beat everything easily

>>167803205
>>167803713
He's easy as hell once you break the chains and he can't swing them around anymore. Dodging his throws are easy.

>>167803845
he usually only spins if youre behind him

>>167803713

I think that's the issue...I'm getting greedy beacuse I could in ds and still block or dodge.

New game, gotta form new habits

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>>167803672
Speaking of /r/Nioh, Kotaku is getting desperate.

>>167802917

Stay close to the adds to bait them into a melee. That should open up the core and with a strong enough weapon, you can one shot them with a high stance attack.

>>167804081
this is gawker SOP actually

>>167803891
>Bosses barely take damage and dish out way too much damage
>"Just be patient!"

That's a game design flaw.

>>167803845
You know you can break the chains? Try some heavy attacks near them.

>>167804081
That's amazing

Anyone else think the game is too easy? The demo seemed way more difficult.

>>167804194
I wish OP would have had balls, I would have told him to fuck off.

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>>167804216
>>167804273
>the game is too hard
>the game is too easy

>>167804273
once you get some decent gear and a good understanding of the combat/enemy mechanics, it's pretty easy yeah. early on, even with knowledge of the how the combat works it was still pretty tough. also the duels against the human story characters are tough as fuck

>mfw seeing a nue casually walking around in mountain level

fuck me

>>167804372
The only people complaining it's too hard are people who expect to be hand-held through content or really like Let's Plays. Speaking of which, did Polygon ever put out a review or are they still whining about it being impossible to get past the third level?

>>167804216
If 4 minutes is too long for a boss fight for you, might I suggest you try some games from Google Play

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where do i drop down to get this shit

>>167804505
3/5, quote "the first few bosses will chew up about 25 hours of your time"

>>167804559
is this the bat level?
from above, duh

>>167804559
From up above. Explore more and you'll find a hidden path. We're not going to spoonfeed you

Anyone found a use for glory yet? I'm at 2319.

>>167804745
There's a special shop you can buy player skins and shit in that uses glory.

I stopped fighting revenants because most of them drop shit. I see a lot of level 30ish people in white gear.

>>167804745
Read the op

>>167804839
So then fight the ones that have purple gear

>>167804935
I don't see too many anymore.

started a mission and "gesture menu: options" wont go away? theres nothing to gesture at here.

>>167804906

I mean at what point can you use it? I haven't found a shop yet.

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should i just dump a bunch of points into magic and ninjitsu for more skill points to spend?

seems like buffs are more useful that str which only gives like 2 damage

the amount of gear you get in this game is insane.

not sure what to do with it either
disassemble? offer? hoard?

>>167805246
You'll find it eventually

>>167805345
Disassemble. You'll need the parts later.

Jorogumo lewds when?

>>167805786
Never. Japan hates the game.

If there isn't a Ginchiyo disguise then this game is confirmed shit-tier blunder of the decade.

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You joined the right clan, didn't you anon?

>>167805845
They wouldn't make her look fearboneriffic enough anyway

What's the difference between familiarity bonus and proficiency bonus?

>>167806217
Familiarity is for that specific weapon. Proficiency is all weapons of that type. Or just an increase to the rate and which you gain both. Is there a way to track proficiency?

This fucking weeb at the top of the hill is pushing my shit in pls send help

>forge some stuff
>48% blue chance
>30% yellow chance
>15% purple chance
>rest white chance
>get white
>3 times in a row

can you save scum forging? cuz fuck this

>>167806447

Just found out. Under status menu in the additional stats menu there is a list of your prof.

>>167806769
>forging things

why?

What's going to be the first thing to get a nerf?

>>167806996
anything that lets you refill LW bar while its active

>>167806996
Co-Op because faggots can't stop whining

this game just fucking loves putting giant yokai realm niggas with the longest reach in the tightest corridors possible

>>167806996
infinite living weapon and Sloth are really the only things that need nerfs.

>>167807285
Expect a ton of weapon nerfs that end up making the balance actually worse overall regardless.

>>167806996
I hope nothing because this isn't a pvp game

Where's the lewd Okatsu art at

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>calls you a common drunk
>you're the only one not drinking

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>>167807771
Is this your first time experiencing a tsundere character, anon?

Anyone got the big screen cap of all the spirits?

>>167803205
The game needs some patching asap

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>>167808019

>>167803205
>run in
>hit him twice
>run off
>repeat
what exactly are you struggling with

>It's another boss fight that takes entirely too long because it has a billion health and you have to hit the glowing spot it only shows every so often

How many more fights are there like this? Shit is tedious as fuck.

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>>167808125
>game gets patched
>you now need to have beaten the game to do co-op
>mfw

>>167808337
talking about blob boy? that's the only "gimmicky" fight i've seen so far.

>>167807771
Okatsu is cute, CUTE!

>>167808337
fire amulet, nigga
you'll tear it apart into phase 2 before it even gets the chance to swap sides

>all these people picking shimazu thinking they're getting 30% ki regen

>>167807285

Infinite living weapon? How? The amrita stones?

>>167806089
Where is the option to join clans

>tfw actually considering doing a bare handed, counter-focused run using only Ninjutsu, Onmyo, bare hands, consumables, and ranged weapons

>>167806985
I wanted to try it

What should I spend my Prestige on? Life seems meh since I only get 10 per point.

>>167808229
Which one is the one people say is good with 2kat

>>167808701
there's something that gives you amrita gain on hit, you pair it with an a+ recovery weapon and you're done

i think it's a onmyou spell?

>>167809163
anything you want, you get a literal shit ton of it and it barely adds much anyway

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>Kodama
>Stolen from Princess Mononoke
is Miyazaki gonna sue Team Ninja?

FUCK YUKE ONNA I HATE THIS FIGHT

>>167809802
yes

>>167808701
we've known this since pre release that you can just use amrita ganining methods to have infinite living weapon same with sloth being op and discord being broken

they wont nerf it if they didnt nerf it before

>>167810117

I didn't realize that about the amrita despite having played beta, alpha and last chance.

I did know about sloth though. Loved it.

Just beat the real Mineueuaysdfyasydfasyfd shashimi or whatever.

The one everyone said was super hard in the alpha/beta.

1 hour of attempts, on the dot. landed the killing blow on the strike of the 60th minute.

>>167808229
Thanks m8.

>it took 30 deaths to beat the succubus in the demo

>0 deaths in the real game

what the fuck happened here

Fuck bats, fuck women, and fuck bat women.

>>167809802
straight up stolen from japenis folklore like what the fuck can't they create their own things

>>167809013
I've considered doing a no-leveling run and just use locks and familiarity to gain skill points and go full on murderhobo

>>167811013
you fought her over 30 times before and eventually beat her. what did you expect? you have the experience now, you learned your fundamentals.

>>167811013

You spent those 30 deaths learning her highly telegraphed moveset and weaknesses? A-fucking-duh, anon.

>>167811113
this, the jap shit is like the worst part of this game. so generic and bland and confusing with a billion chingchong wakazashi katana desu ne names

wish they went the bloodborne/dark souls route with a really deep and interesting world with fresh and original ideas and concepts

Is there a way to change your spirit animal that I'm not seeing at the shrine? Sharky is cool as fuck but I wanna try out that pupper.

Anyone know what "Extends Timely Guard Window" bonus means?

Is it only for the Sword's Backwave or does is extend the proper Parry skill windows as well?

>>167811350
You have to unlock them.

really wish you could leave boss rooms after beating the boss. Just killed the spider lady and I was missing one of the teakettle fragments :/

>>167811350
It's like the first option to the left of level up

>>167811013
Hino-Emma is pretty easy desu. People think she's tough because of the paralysis but just land a couple hits ea h time there's an opening, dodge the paralysis, and always have guard up for her spin attack and you're fine.

Spin attack is the worst part desu because it's almost instantaneous and creates a yokai realm

>>167811082
that vamp boss in the 2nd main mission is fairly easy, her pattern is simple. circle strafe her and side roll the paralyzing attacks and projectiles. you can attack her after most of her animations but be prepared to cancel the attack with a roll, don't commit to a long combo unless she whiffs a big attack like the aerial dive rush.

ki pulse her yokai realm shit and just dodge her bite attack, it has a big wind-up. killed her in <5 minutes with 2kat on high stance around level 20.

>>167811336
yeah they could have also made the game about vampires instead of ogre MUH SWAMPP this isn't shrek retards selling my ps4

>>167811406
Thanks
>>167811415
Where do I end up unlocking them? Is it just mission progression or are they side quests?

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ebin

>>167811496
Is there a way to dodge her wing spin attack? And don't tell me there is because luck is bullshit.

WHY CANT YOU REACT TO THIS ICE BITCH MILLION YARD STAB?

>>167811794
FLYING INTO FREE~

For the fucking life of me, I can't be the fucking first boss. Its just the spins that keep getting me, I can't get the timing down on them. And when I try blocking, half the time I get hit once and half the time I get hit twice, and the second time Im always stunned since his hits eat so much of my Ki.

Fuck, I watched my friend beat this in one try. Im getting really pissed now.

>>167802917
>adds during the Umibozu fight
Sounds like you didn't finish the level, friendo.

>>167811860
yea, don't be close to her when she does it

>>167811534
Both, you'll see them listed on the mission reward screens on the map

BONFIRES! BONFIRES! BONFIRES! BONFIRES! BONFIRES!

I clapped when you had to retrieve your currency/xp on death but no bloodstain oh well
I clapped when you unlocked shortcuts

Low health and telegraphed enemy attacks
I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

>>167811867
circle around the outside of the zone to dodge the missiles, when she goes for the stab spam she'll be a dash in front of you, hit her twice back off and repeat circling

Fucks sake the crafting is pissing me off. Crafted 9 spears with a 35% chance at purple, got 7 whites, a yellow, and a blue.

>>167812175
Oh that's funny, because I'm not and then she spins around and then she's close and then she hits me regardless of my rolls.

I'm just being salty, it's her only attack that's hitting me and I don't understand why.

>>167771321
>only have water kat
>can't beat umi bozu for shit
I only have like 2 fire talismans left

>>167812763
Search the map more. You're missing something that makes him piss easy

I'm level 50 and still didn't fight the Umi Bozu... I shouldn't have grinded coop so much and endlessly farmed for the Warrior of the West set I guess.

>>167812660
normal crafting is a massive waste of time, just farm honour and use the tea house vendor

>>167813287
level means literally nothing, weapons are the thing you need to worry about, armour is a meme since everything 2hits past mid-game anyway

>>167812726
Just beat her. I feel stupid.

I'll be getting the game in a few weeks, can't wait, loved the beta and all but has anyone found out what the point of the Mark of the Conqueror does yet? Just curious.

>>167812370
you ok

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>>167813508
You get a unique helmet, same for beating the beta and the demo.

Guys I need serious help I'm stuck on the first big boss ball oni dude. Why the fuck is the first boss so overpowered not even dark souls is this retarded. you do fuck all damage and it goes on forever. It feels really out of place even for a copy of the souls games.

Not only that but I think I fucked my build, I have 15 skill and some dex and I feel I should be good but I'm not. I'm using the sickle and duel swords but they do fuck all damage even with magic. fuck I even tried to get help 5 fucking times and now im alone. you can only summon one fucking person?

Is skill/duel/ sickle hard mode? I swear the sickle is good but this boss takes no damage. should I have went vanilla and went with the katana/tank?

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I'm trying to get Spirit Scaling on a weapon, but I have no idea what 'category' it belongs to as an upgrade. Is it possible to have Spirit Scaling with elemental damage or familiarity scaling? Is there a guide for this anywhere out there?

What the fuck is up with this giant white masked revenant on the bridge who has more health than all the rest of the bosses I've fought put together?

I just spent a good 15 minutes whaling on him but he was only down to around 70% health

After unlocking prof bonus, my wooden sword only gained 7 attack and that was probably from familiarity. It seems prof bonus just increases the rate in which you gain prof.

>>167814142
No, it's not hard mode, and you're almost overleveled even.

Just use a weapon that's higher level if you can.

Also, block.

>>167814142
Also just thought of this but is nija shit a waste, should've I went with the magic skill stat? I thought it worked with the skill build.

so when can I do this game's equivalent of putting down my summon sign to help niggas out? I put points into lightning talisman, the heal others talisman, and power pill I'm ready to do this shit

I beat the last chance Demo and downloaded the DLC for the Helmets but I only got the Bat one.

What the fuck do?

>>167814342
You do it from the menu after you beat the first mission, the Torii Gate at the starting point is co-op stuff, you can queue up for random missions there or specific ones

>>167814414
thanks senpai, looks like I should beat the first mission then so I can sunbro it up

Does the game have sunbros?

>>167814289
I have both weapons around in the 50's is that enough? I really didn't put anything in heart or stam so maybe my health is the problem? Its really different from souls because it seems one stat gives you almost a ton of stat boosts without the need to go into the others. so really I have no idea what im doing.

and yeah I should be blocking more but can I really fucking do this myself? I swear this feels like a at least a 3 man job, even 2 is not cutting it. is this game only 2 player summons?

>mfw 2kat casuals dont know how to get the most out of the weapon

>>167814567
Bro, I suck at this game and I killed that guy alone second try. It's not as hard as you think, something about your approach is just plain wrong

>>167814512
Nah just heaps of nips.

do you get more summoning cups from defeating killed players? how rare are they? what should I be putting my prestige points into. I did things like luck/item chance.
>>167814674
do you think its my build? I just do no damage man. and get two shotted before I can last a quarter way. I got close with a teammate but he died and we were so close. the other 5-8 times either I died or he did and it was over. It just doesn't feel balanced like souls.

Can I play this game while smoking or is combat too frantic for that?

>>167814925

Please record yourself playing. I have no idea how someone could be this bad.

>>167815005
well a ton of other players are bad at this game too obviously and I can see that with playing with others. the game just is not crafted like souls and it might just be too different so far for a lot of people or the first boss needs a bit less health pool.

>>167814925
No it isn't your build, as another anon said you're overleveled and Kusarigama do fine damage. I have no idea what you could be doing besides playing with your feet. Did you select a twilight mission on accident? You should really record a fight or something so people can see what the hell is going on.

>>167815209
The game is balanced and crafted just fine, you need to adapt. I can tell you right now, flat out, you are doing something wrong. But I can't tell you what that is without more info.

>>167815282
what do you mean playing with my feet am I running/dodging around too much? should I just block?

>>167813063
I lit the towers. I couldn't light my elemental kat on fire and didn't know to until about an hour ago. Took me 20 tries anyway. Fuck that boss

>>167815440
No I mean literally using your feet on the controller

>>167814972
youll probably end up chewing the fag to pieces

The difficulty seems super inconsistent.

You go from wall to wall it seems. Enma is there to fuck you up once you're starting to get the hang of it. Then you beat her and the Nue's there to continue the job. Then you have the option of fighting the real Muneshige who will push your shit in.

Then the mines centipede is... a joke.

You seriously can just kite him around, turn on the poison thing, drop attack him when he reforms and shoot him with a FUCKING CANNON for massive damage.

I'm sure the next one is going to be either a complete joke, or a fucking beast.

>>167815750
Nue is a fucking pushover

who /helmet hidden/ here?

>>167815854
golden demon mask all day

hello, im mildly retarded, but randomly when i attack an ogre he'll lose all his stamina and fall down.

why is that?

>>167815854

Warrior Monk's hood for Joe Shinobi cosplay.

>>167815750
>wow this is hard
>oh I have the hang of it now this is easy
>wow this next thing is hard
>oh I have the hang of it now this is easy
>wow this next thing is hard

noticing a pattern here?

>>167816034
you cut his horns off

Boss death count:
Any of the london shit: 0
Ship oni: 0
Bat bitch: 0
Nue: 0
Fake Samurai: 0
Real Samurai: 0
Umi-Bozu: ~15

lel

is the big slime beam meant to 1 shot me

cant even use the fires

>>167816162
Yes it is, and yes you can use the fires

>>167816162
I've just been here, honestly change your weapon for a non elemental one and whetstone the shit out of it just to be able to use the fires, they're way better than a regular fire buff. Shreds the guy. And yeah the beam oneshot me, level 35ish

>>167816157
London: A bunch, but this is my first game like this so I tried to kill those two knights as a trial by fire
Ship oni: 4
Bat bitch: 3

This is the first remotely hard game I've ever played so I'll take it

>>167816141
did i skip a tutorial or does the game even try to explain this?

i just got the game and fighting the ogre boss in the boat

>>167816162

The laser will 1 shot you. You shouldn't be getting hit by anything else. Just use fire and hit the tentacles when he slams them down.

It's stupidly easy, just takes way too long to kill.

>>167816068
Its been more like
>Wow I do no damage>
>Wow this weapon rekts face
>Wow I do no damage>
>Wow this weapon rekts face

I like it better than Dark Souls huehuehuehuehue 1 weapon entire game upgrade it fagit. The total inconsistency is making it difficult. Baselines with like the Raikiri seem good, but maybe a bit too far apart.

>>167816396

If you notice, pretty much every yokai enemy has a big glowing orange spot somewhere on them. That is their weak spot, try to hit it.

Do I get to go back to the first map? If so, when? I still didn't fight doggo guy.

>>167816157
>London
I died by getting nailed by the first guard, wasn't aware you were supposed to go grab a sword. I beat him bare handed
0 deaths to derrick

Ship Oni: 0

Bat Bitch: 4
Took a break, came back and basically did 75% of her health with my Doge sword

Nue: 3, once I figured out to just keep moving when he does his lightning scream

Fake Samurai: 0
Real Samurai: Like 24. I didn't play the Beta. Got really fucking good at dodging through his running draw attack

Centipede: 2

What the fuck is the secret of this mission? This guy has more health than anything I've fought, blocks almost everything and is next to impossible to ki break

>>167816157
light the fires for umi bozu to stop him from spawning minions

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>>167816704
forgot my image

>>167816853
dont get hit