/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

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>>167767258
in addition, you can fight some of the worst spikelords in high rank and even lowrank.

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>>167767602
That's hideous.

>>167767602
Espinas does mean thorns in Spanish

>>167767819
That's hideous.

>>167767819
>go through all the effort of making your retarded oc just to name it Zin

Give me one good reason why capcom should keep up this bullshit where they re-release enhanced versions of their games at full price as opposed to just releasing the new content as DLC.

>>167768309
Money

>>167768309
Because they can.

>>167768309
Because 6000 yen is more money than what they can charge for DLC?

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>>167767602
>Dislike Mera's design
>Fight him
>Suddenly enjoy it because he's just a nearsighted dope who just flails wildly at anything near him

>>167768309
I'd rather buy 2 full games instead of buying neverending DLCs like DOA.

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>>167768068
odibitorasu is an example of a pretty great frontier design

>less spiky than his two mainline cousins
>gunlance: the monster
>manages to eliminate the cancerous parts of mainline akantor/ukanlos (no chip for getting your toe stepped on, etc)
>is a scrapped artbook design re-imagined
>all his gear looks great, especially the gunlance

not to mention the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0RKjGLfhgc

>>167768535
You can skip the first of the two games in this case though.

>>167768761
Exactly. Meanwhile if it's DLCs, I'm gonna have to pay for more than amount of a game to get full experience.

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>>167768545
THIS is a real shell.

>>167768545
>is a scrapped artbook design re-imagined
Is that the desert ukanlos one?

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>>167769596
Yep. he lives in 2nd gen desert.

he sucks up sand during the fight and forces it through his shell for some attacks. he can either shoot a large sand projectile out of the cannon or shoot it out of several small holes on the top, kind of like sand mortars.

he doesn't do a lot of charging, which is why i enjoyed him a lot more than akantor/ukanlos.

>>167769368
W-wheres the turtle?

>>167768309
because people keep falling for it

>>167770993
deviant subspecies, it's invisible and OH MY GOD BEHID YOU!

>>167768309
It's not going to change for as long as Japan continues to buy Monster Hunter.

>>167768545
>this is considered a great design in frontier
christ

I want game NOW
MHX was a bit lame desu

>>167771181
akantor is worse, which makes odibitorasu the best in his class.

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>>167771886
>akantor is worse

>>167771805
What's so lame about MHX?

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>>167773682
prove me wrong.

>uninteresting fight, nothing really unique to it
>big tigrex with enough spikes to make a frontier mon blush
>the most difficult part of the fight is not getting stepped on for 25% of your hp

>>167774086
git gud

I don't get gunlance. It just feels like a bad lance.
Ok explosions lookscool but that's it. Can't chain hops, less mobile, x+a to upoke it awkward, no upwards full burst, no counter.

>>167768545
It looks terrible, it's really just as bad as akantor and saying something is better than akantor isn't saying much since akantor is the most frontier monster in mainline. Ukanlos looks way better than both.

The gunlance looks like ass too, the armour is moderately nice though.

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>>167774280
Sounds like you do get gunlance.

>>167774280
>It just feels like a bad lance.
>Ok explosions lookscool
That's it. You actually do get gunlance. That's all there is to it. You sacrifice effectiveness for a shittier lance that looks cool. It gets nerfed more every gen and is literally a joke weapon at this point, it's significantly less effective than prowler in TA and the only worse weapon in TA is HH, ie the one weapon you're really not meant to play solo anymore.

>>167768545
>less spiky
the same
>he sucks up sand during the fight and forces it through his shell for some attacks. he can either shoot a large sand projectile out of the cannon or shoot it out of several small holes on the top, kind of like sand mortars.
MORE PROJECTILES

>>167768068
That's the joke

>>167774280
It's the superiority feeling you get when you're doing the same feat others do, but with the worst weapon.

>>167775076
>Worse than prowler

That's not true stop it

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Now if you want to see a monster from frontier that ACTUALLY has a neat, relatively non-cancer design, look at this piece of shit right here. Akura Vashimu is just a scorpion with hard purple crystals on it (yes, it's spikey, but the spikes look like a natural formation), instead of AOE it has a tail laser and it has a unique fight gimmick that isn't a variation on "it spews area of effect explosions everywhere that instakill you unless you iframe them or have the automatic iframe skill xDDD" (its crystals are extremely hard but when you break them off it becomes extremely vulnerable, like a better designed gravios, and if you chip enough off and flip it on its back only then can you cut its tail; Cutting it with the crystal tip intact gives an extra reward).

This is the ONLY design from frontier I've seen that I've liked that wasn't also in mainline so of course it's the one MHO nabbed as well

>>167775076
>>167775443
>>167774973
So when do you call it quits and make a lance instead? I'm playing 3u and wanted to try something new, LS and GL were my choices.

>>167775917
Don't be like that, the Orugarons are mainline worthy as well.

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>>167776193
>Not including the tag-team pro wrestlers

Also, what is that guy talking about an automatic iframe skill. Absolute Defense? Because that's just a shitter shield that now gimps your damage when its down.

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>>167775873
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/163462-monster-hunter-generations/74497903
13. Prowler = 340.06
14. GL = 387.53
15. HH = 411.29
not just worse, MUCH worse. It's the biggest gap between two consecutive weapons by nearly two times!

>>167776028
GL isn't as awful in 3U, I used it alongside lance (which I mained) for monsters with tougher armour or annoying phases like agnaktor's lava cooling, and for breaking tough parts I needed. Like I said, it gets nerfed more each gen/game, so the further back you go the less shit it is.

>>167776193
We could use more canine monsters
Or just more fanged wyverns

>>167775917
i feel like you haven't actually played frontier

this thing gets some pretty cancer AoE past highrank and is a pain in the ass to solo because of the gimmick

>>167776193
I forgot about those. But MHO also nabbed that, lmao

>>167776028
I was a Lance main in 4U. But 'I don't think I'll be one in Gen. The 3rd poke sucks. I changed my main after I was bored of GL to CB, bow, and now LS. But I still love GL regardless.

>>167776695
>The 3rd poke sucks.
So do Striker.

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What should I know/have before I go online for the first time? I'm playing Generations and it's my first Monster Hunter game ever. I don't want to get bullied.

>>167776356
Just fuck you

I can't believe a joke mode meant for fun and messing around is better than a proper weapon

I hate all of you

>>167777226
there's no bullying in internet

>>167777281
Don't blame us, blame Capcon.

>>167777226
play with charlotte, don't worry if she starts blogposting though, she's a blabbermouth

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>>167777281
But anon, gunlance ISN'T better than prowler, what are you on about...?

>>167777281
I love you too, anon.

>>167777056
Dunno. I've tried it, but I always feel I'm not using the weapon to its full potential if I use striker Lance with old poking style. In the end I just dropped it and try new weapons I've yet to use.

>>167777226
How many have you progress in village quests?

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>>167777281
>anon's face when Alchemy SA is the king of TAs in XX

>>167777281
Don't worry.
They will shill the new Beast cat by nerfing Boomerang cats.

>>167777431
>play with charlotte
anon...

>>167777548
It's easier if you just admit to yourself that just because they changed the new default doesn't mean the default is better.
But good on you for branching out.

>>167777674
i'm looking forward to alchemy kinsect-only IG.

honestly i'm looking forward to alchemy everything, it will be the true solo masochist experience.

>>167777442
She looks less smug and more tripped out on shrooms.

>>167777297
I don't believe you

>>167777431
Who is charlotte?

>>167777619
I've done a bunch of the 3 stars quests

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>>167778004

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>>167778194
I'm not actually worried about bullying, anon. I just don't want to ruin people's games to the point that they'll try to bully.

>>167778296
If they get mad, that's their fault.

>>167778004
it's a girl but she's hr999 and talks all the time but she's always hunting

>>167778194
All those cyberbullying ads were dumb, some insults online never hurt anybody. However, fake accounts and rumors spreading even quicker through social media did.

>>167778525
With how thin-skinned so many kids are nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if some mongs actually offed themselves.

>>167778296
Just try your best to stay alive. Don't die. Being cautious and doing low damage is fine, they won't notice as long as you don't afk. When you're better at reading monsters' move, then add more attacks.

>>167778525
>all that shit about blanche

>>167777226
If you're a real man do some gathering hub quests offline, and get your hunter rank up a bit. But the really big stuff to not be a shitter:
>you still get three carts before failing a quest, but they're shared. If tom, dick and harry cart, jane gets screwed over even if she hasn't been hit once and has been carrying the team.
>THERE IS FRIENDLY FIRE. You don't do damage but you can trip/stagger other players. Hammer, lance, gunlance and SnS are the most vulnerable to tripping (have the fewest attacks that make you immune to the stagger from weaker hits), but everyone can be tripped if they aren't attacking, and attacks that LAUNCH other players (knock them either fully to the ground or straight up) will ALWAYS affect them, unless they're using the HA castle walls, which nobody uses afaik.
>If you do fuck up, admit it and apologise. Might help to have a "sorry" bind in your chat macros. People will usually be understanding.
>Don't use GL or SA unless you are confident you won't hit other players with it. This goes for a few other weapons too but especially these. Similarly, don't use crag ammo on guns if you can't aim (though if you're unloading it on the head all at once and gunners run up and get blasted off that's their fault, crag is insanely good for ko), and don't use pellet at all unless you and everyone else knows what you're doing.

>>167774280
Sacrifices speed and mobility for stronger thrusts and shells that ignore hitzones.
The weapon was only ever good in 3rd gen and Capcom will never care enough about weapon balance to give it the buff it needs.

>>167778929
>If you're a real man
That's sexist, anon.

>using CB
>mount enraged monster
>run to the head and try to draw into axe mode
>start picking up the shiny next to it's head
Holy shit I'm mad.

>>167777226
As long as your palicos aren't named after Pokemon you'll be fine.

>>167779078
But it's true. Women don't solo, their brothers or boyfriends get them to play the game with them in the first place.

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>>167779243
>tfw my male friends are also little bitches

>>167778004
cool guy, victim of his fame, hosts 24/7 and is up to any hunt

>>167779094
It's r+x+y, why did you hit a

>>167779480

>guy
>him

Cringe

>>167779394
Few have the stones to solo in this series, even now that it has gotten so casual.

>>167779094
>>167779540
wait fuck, it is x+a what am I thinking

>>167778648
>>167778929
Are there roles or people who get a higher priority to attack or anything like that?

>>167779189
What if they're named Samus and Zelda? They're the DLC cats

>>167769953
MHO has this guy init pretty much, he just has flippers like a turtle

>>167778967
I just find it funny that they gave CB damage that ignores hitzones and scales with raw, and completely neglected GL.

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>>167779243
pls

>>167779765
Hammer, SnS, CB, HH -basically weapons that can deal KO damage- get the head.
GS can also join the head, but be careful with side swing.
The others hit other weak points.

There's a badly drawn picture that explains who hit where, but I can't find it.

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>>167779656
I don't know what to say when my brother doesn't know how to dodge Rathalos' high talon attack after 3 years of playing this.

>>167780193
you forgot LBG

>>167779656
Solo to clear quests is one thing. But farming mats solo is just tedious.

>>167780193
fuck hammer players though

>>167779765
Sort of but they aren't strict. For instance DB and SnS have fairly poor vertical reach and they're agile so they're well suited to attacking most monsters' legs to trip them, giving everyone a huge opening, and obviously bladed weapons can cut tails but impact weapons can't. As long as they don't use pellets or explosives, guns can do what they want, though obviously they should try to aim over BMs' heads and hit weak spots. Priority for the head pretty much goes hammer > exhaust coated SnS > everything else, but most weapons can easily share a head with a hammer if both players are mindful of their positioning.

Beyond that, unless you think they might not be able to handle the job themselves or they're using a pretty slow weapon, if you see someone with a para/sleep/poison weapon don't take a weapon of the same status because it's mostly redundant (in which case especially with DB you can have the monster being parad/put to sleep every few seconds, it's insane), and if you don't see anyone with para especially and you have a para weapon then consider bringing it (assuming the monster isn't immune or very resistant to paralysis), because para is almost always a big help to the entire team. Doesn't mean there always has to be someone with it, but it's a good way to make sure you pull your weight.

>>167780083
>I solo!
>850 billion unity with the robot

>>167780418
Where did the battery sword touch you, anon?

daily reminder: a kiss from miss cat is a kiss of shame. Don't be a carried shitter who never solos

>>167780521
dropped some words there in editing, this part
>because it's mostly redundant (in which case especially with DB you can have the monster being parad/put to sleep every few seconds, it's insane),
was meant to read
>because it's mostly redundant unless everyone takes it on a fast weapon (in which case especially with DB you can have the monster being parad/put to sleep every few seconds, it's insane),

>>167780193
>Hammer
>Getting the head

This isn't FU.

>>167780418
>>167780750
>CB kiddos mad the KO King is back
KEK

>>167780985
Anon, hammer may be my weaponfu, but even I have to admit the KO king is LBG now.

>>167780985
>KO king
>Outclassed in KO by 5 different weapons

More like Cuck King.

>>167781179
pls don't compare hammer-chan to Rathalos

>>167780418
>>167780750
Where did this anti-hammer sentiment come from lately? Is it because hammer dropped in power relative to everything else so much between 4U and Gen?

>>167780985
I think CB is still technically better at KO than hammer, as well as still being stronger. The reason hammer gets priority is because CB can easily share the head with a hammer and while KOing CB is untrippable, while hammer is trippable during both of its standard paths to high damage and KO. But both weapons were nerfed/not buffed as much as everything else in generations.

>>167781096
LBG and kinsect were the reigning KO kings already, the fact that slow folks are just now catching on is a non-issue. Non-kinsecters will never know the pleasure of 8 KOs in a five minute 4U hunt.

>>167780524
>I only played one game

>>167781504
i'm kidding, you could always be together because you're siblings, or dating, or whatever

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>>167781362
>there are people that have never experienced the joy of kinsect only IG
i pity them.

>>167781635
>ywn be charlottes brother and date him/her
why live

>>167781179
>outclassed by 5 different weapons
>by 5 different weapons
>by 5
>5
No.
In fact, only 2 are.

LBG - Understandable, gunners have always been better at status or damage compared to blademaster.
SnS - Also understandable. Oils and shoryugeki are the new additions they put in the newest game.

The rest are worse than hammer.

>>167781708
I agree, why are you still alive?

>>167781745
prowler and IG are absolutely not worse than hammer

CB is the only one arguably worse.

>brand new hunter arts for each weapon
>chaos oil HA for sns
>nerscylla returning

woo

>malfestio deviant

why

>gravios returning

fuck off

>>167781749
I live to shitpost anonymously about strangers on the internet, pretending to be affectionate toward them to engender feelings of ubiquitous discomfort. It makes me feel good to know I've made the world a slightly worse place and that gives me the strength to continue drawing breath.

>>167781362
>Where did this anti-hammer sentiment come from lately?
They're new.

>>167781873
>nercylla returning
hol up what? nice

>>167781873
>all new HA are utter shit except SA, LS, SnS
>the only weapons (except) Lance that have really good Striker Styles already are the only ones to get good HAs
and you know what's funny? I bet they know all these new attacks are garbage, but you want to know why they were added?
to make the third trailer look nice

>>167767602
meraginasu is pure don't you dare insult him

>>167781861
Didn't know prowler was actually good for stun, how good is it relative to the other options in your opinion?

>>167781873
Malfestio deviant at least has a cool look.

Gravios is really fuck you though.

>>167781635
same timezone

>>167782118
stop lying, she has no timezone

>>167782107
The SA art apparently only increases movement speed in axe mode and adds one new attack.
I severely doubt that can do anything to make nearly as effective as even reloading sword mode manually without any arts.

>>167782117
it's below LBG and slightly better than IG

you sacrifice a lot of damage because there are currently no good lategame blunt type boomerang weapons, but in exchange you can shit out exhaust, KO and status on a similar level to support-lbg with no need for supplies or combining.

in XX, this might change if we get some good blunt boomerang weapons. prowlers have potential to become a monstrosity.

>>167782294
Easy. Replace every power phial with Exhaust phial.

>>167782447
This kills the SA

>>167781708
>moving to Belgium soon
>don't care about meeting him because I'm not a fag
feels good

>the only reason neko (means "cat") has that bit on the end is because he tries to say his name is tiger
>no such joke in generations
???

>>167782342
In XX we'll probably have proper charge time down kinsects as well, tho, so kinsect will also presumably be a lot better for stun like it was in 4U.

>>167782683
It's sad the only interesting stuff XX has to offer comes from the fact it's a G rank game and not from the "epic features" they've shown

>>167782658
>the localization team even took months extra to add memes

>>167782683
it's not that bad in X, but it's much harder to pull off.

instead of just sending charged bugs out, you need to send out the bug and then strafe it back and forth across the monster's face.

fleetflammer will be a gamechanger though. i hope we get some new bugs instead of the same g rank bug tree as 4u.

>>167782778
Alchemy style seems like it might be fun, if not optimal. Definitely a good role for shitters if it's not the new "HH who stands in the corner drawing aggro the whole time."

>>167783193
It's clunky as fuck
>hey grab that bud, but first sheathe and find me
It MIGHT be good if SP 3 arts weapon benefit from it and if it doesn't butcher movesets

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Reposting.

>>167783289
>hey grab that bud, but first sheathe and find me
now I sure do wonder what weapon wouldn't have this problem. Man, but good thing that certain weapon has nothing but shit HAs so it can't take advantage of Alchemy being the only style besides striker to be able to use 3 HA!
oh wait

>>167783551
Literally frontier.

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>>167780281

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>>167783551

Really have to wonder if the dev team even plays their own game at times.

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>>167783849
They definitely didn't playtest X and XX

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>>167783785
>gravios returns
WHY
H
Y

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>>167783989

>>167783785
>Malfestio but the confusion particles now instead steal items
sounds like fun, now why didn't they go all the way. He absolutely should have had a Teostra-styled aura that causes sleep!

>>167784156
The Japan refused to change.

>>167784197
Is that really what it says?
That's honestly depressing.

>>167781873

>worrying about niggios when pierce water shots exist

Cringe

An easy monster will now be even easier.

What monster from 3U and 4U are still missing in XX?

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>>167784179
And that's all.

>>167784197
The silver dust turns Malfestio invisible.
Item stealing dust would be ridiculous.

>>167784179
Seeing the Dragon Bow there makes me wonder if we might get another spread bow worth using again.

>>167784380
peco

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>>167784380
nobody important

>>167784380
Ah, don't considering subspecies

>>167784496
>Gravios is easy as shit
>Everyone whining he's back

>>167784156
Ah, I remember when i went through the "i hate gravios >:(" phase.
It's nice to be a young hunter.

>>167784361
P element plus adept is actually a really comforting thought.

>>167784380
'ggis, but there's no point to adding them now. They should have been there from the beginning because dromes were featured in the last game.

>>167784580
>P element plus adept
one hit with a water weapon and it's triplocked, Gravios are a joke

>>167784380
Do giant monsters count?
George, Dala, Fatty and Mohrans.

>>167784568
even with water lbg/db the fight was a pain in the ass
he exists to waste time and is annoying, not difficult

just realized adept will make him a cake walk though

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>>167784380

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>8 hours till g10 releases on tw frontier
>too awake to sleep until then

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My first online experience was fighting Kecha with some guy named Shadow and an AFKer. I just shield poked Kecha with my Lance like a retard but at least didn't take damage, Shadow kept trying to do cool shit with his dual blades but ended up carting twice. In the end I poked it to death and he never bothered to come carve for some reason.

>>167784978
>shield poked
Deserves to be kicked from the room.

>pyfw the last monster reveal is Queropeco and its deviant.

>>167785323
>instead of calling a monster, it becomes the monster

>>167785259
I was host.

>>167785394
you better not come into mine then

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>>167784380
Great Baggi, Great Wroggi, Qurupeco, Gigginox, Gobul, Jhen Mohran, Dah'ren Mohran, Dire Miralis, Fatalis, Dalamadur, Gogmazios.

Also missing from Unite are King Shakalaka, Queen Vespoid, Giadrome, Hypnocatrice, Lunastra, Shen Gaoren, Yama Tsukami.

>>167767461
Hey guys. I recently rebought tri U for the 3ds for nostalgia, but I can't get online. Did they axe it?

>>167785556
3ds 3u never had online, wiiu only.

>>167785556

Cringe

>>167785556
3ds version doesn't have online unless tethered to a wii u

>>167785713
>>167785721
Seriously!? I only played the Wii u version. There anyway two hunters can join hunts from afar?

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Haven't played in awhile but what's the cookie cutter teo bow build now that the hyper jho esureint armors are released?

>>167785432
Don't worry, I haven't fought with mhg yet because I'm still shit.

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>>167785486

>>167785858
only if you have a wiiu.

if you don't have a wiiu and have plans to play with someone in particular, you can play p3rd HD on PPSSPP with them for pretty much the same experience

>>167785971
Thanks. Think I'll just play 4U in that case then.

why is there no monhun show about a group of 4 monhun girls trying to all be the best hunters, one is a genki sns/ls, one is tsundere lance/gunlance, one is dead eyes and plain gs/hammer, and one is a nerd with swirly glasses and is a bow/gunner

and there is a hero female (male) that shows up sometimes to rescue them, uses ds

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>>167780418
>this nigga never wielded magnitude

>>167786167
I want this but with /mhg/ instead
including the thread which is the tavern patrons

>>167786167
>gunner not kuudere
JUST

>>167786363
No mhg player is worth remembering

>>167786469
i am

>>167786469
>implying any moe anime character is worth remembering

>>167786167
Would the hero female (male) that uses ds be named Charlotte perchance? I would watch if so.

>>167786469
>SOUL braggart using Myxo exclusively
>Doj pure cancer bragging even more and blocking the way to everything
>MLX in a monster kigu never hunting
>naked Jaerick, anime feminine gay but actually not gay
>pixel carting like a scrub just like in my chinese webms
>robotte literally always in the background at the guild facing the quest board
could work

>>167786167
>wanting blancharlotte in your anime

>>167787224
fujoshi pandering, they gotta self insert

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>>167786167
I'll post this again.

>>167787390
>fujoshi
>self insert
?

>>167786174
>forge new hammer
>clucks at you and flies away

>>167787528
>tfw no more than a normal guard
But muh viability

>>167787763
The twist being that normal guards are actually super powerful and could give all the fancy weapon swinging hunters a run for their money.

>>167787763
It's consistent with guards seen in the games. Probably the only reason.

>>167788015
>guards are all semi-retired HR-7+ hunters who were given the option to settle down after years of distinguished service

Hello fellows
Just bought mh generations, played 3u and 4u heavily and was a big fan of the swaxe, but feel like playing something new.
What's the best weapon to play in generations?

>>167788325
If you're asking about times, Lance and SA are numbers 1 and 2.
The best weapon is the one you have the most fun with____, though.

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>Tempest Axe HA coming to save SA players from the tyranny of Sword Modomination

I can't wait.

>>167788325
Top 5 are Striker Lance, Striker Switch Axe, Adept Dual Blades, Adept Bow, and Adept Heavy Bowgun.

>>167787528
>sns, db, lbg protags

Why?
It is almost like you want a boring show.

>>167788896
>doesn't buff axe mode at all
>will give incentive to use axe mode
???

>>167788896
It's already confirmed garbage, sorry man

>>167780281
How the hell am I supposed to dodge it?

>>167789967
By pressing B.

>>167789967
It's probably the most telegraphed attack in its entire arsenal, anon. Come on.

>>167785868
Load Up
TrueShotUp
Weakness Exploit
Normal Up
AuS

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>>167790252
>no focus

>>167790456
>he doesn't know

>>167789967
roll towards him right after he starts coming at you.

>>167790252
muh powercoat+1 tho

>>167790456
>no Autoreload

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>>167790456
If you have a god-tier talisman you can swap AuS with Focus. It may or may not be beneficial to do so.

>>167790564
You can drop Normal Up for it on quests where you need it.

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>Rathian takes twice as long as it should because you kept accidentally hitting the wings when going for GS swings.

>>167784179
if only the huntresses ingame had butts like that

I want to roughly mating press Miss Cat!

>>167784179
>HBG's new HA is a slicing shot
>LBG's new HA is firing normal level 1
THANKS FOR PICKING THE TWO WORST SHOT TYPES CAPCOM. GLAD TO SEE RETALIATIVE EVADE WILL ALWAYS BE META

>>167777281
tfw wanted to main gunlance
its so shit its not funny ;_;

>>167784361
>pierce water shots with trueshot up
that nigga is gon get raped

>>167790851
>drop normal up
the fuck

>>167791187
IIRC Slicing S is actually way strong.

>>167791187
who cares

the only fun ways to play gunner are crag/clust lbg and aerial hbg

>>167791187
>
Slicing S was so strong they turned it into an internal (and into Prowler, but worse)

>>167791275
35% > 10%, anon

>>167785868
Ammo Saver >>>> LoadUp
TrueShot up
Normal up
Focus
WE

AND YOU CAN LOOK LIKE A FUCKING CLOWN

>>167791450
It's 10% literally all the time
True Shot is 20% on power shots
AuS is 10 raw
>>167791563
>Ammo Saver >>>> LoadUp
>Focus
Dear lord, stop posting.

>>167785868
Shiggy

>>167791639
>drop normal up in favor of powercoat +1
>drop 10% bonus in favor of 35% bonus
Even if you don't finish the hunt until after you're out of coatings, it can still be better than having Normal Up.

>>167791639
Prove me wrong nigger. I did the math and posted the facts like 7 months ago.

LoadUp makes your last charge level go from 1.5x to 1.7x (and it takes longer to charge)
Ammo Saver gives your 20% chance of not using a coating. That 20% on your 50 lvl2 power coatings makes the difference.

>>167791563
>Core skills are Load Up, True Shot and Normal up
>Drop one of them for a shitty 5slotter!

Is Kinsect o ly actually fun or is another meme?

>>167792098
Yes.

>>167792019
Ammo Saver is not 5 slot, retard.

>>167792098
meme

>>167791939
10% on your 50 lv2 > 50 more shots, get them both and drop something else
>>167791987
You don't charge up to 4, Load Up makes it so you shoot lv4 from all your LV3 power shots combined with True Shots
>>167792192
It is.

>>167792098
Fun in 4U, kind of suffering in gen where the minimum kinsect charge time is like 1.5 or 2x as long. Hunts will take a long time solo but in multiplayer they won't take long at all with at least one competent partner, because the monster will spend most of its time KOd, trapped if you know what you're doing, and mounted or paralyzed if you are willing to break the rules a little bit and whack it with your stick. Kinsects are phenomenal for breaking frenzy/apex as well.

>>167792260
http://mhgen.kiranico.com/item/thrift-jwl-2
>thrift jewel 1: 1 slot, 1 skill point
>thrift jewel 2: 2 slots, 3 skill points
>need at least 7 slots
top retarded

>>167792260
Then you only get 1.7x on half of your shots.

>>167792260
Read >>167790851
>You can drop Normal Up for it on quests where you need it.
>on quests where you need it
It's almost like there are quests that can take longer than 70 power coatings will last.

>>167791939
Its so fucking hard to gem in tho.

>>167792483
That's the core of the skill set, Ammo saver and Powercoat+1 are there as the last skill, replacing AuS or WE.
>Half the shots
You're supposed to powershot from Lv3 without shooting when the opening won't allow you to powershot.
>>167792529
It's almost like that's a TA only issue.

>giving a shit about invisible numbers
>not going for fashion hunting and skills that actually affect the way you play

>>167792646
Or a QoL issue. If you're against saving time, why even stack damage?

>>167792795
That's not saving time, that's giving you more shot which is only an issue in solo.

>>167792889
>only speedrunners hunt solo

>>167792930
Sure is fun to solo lv10 deviants, paw pass deviants, multi hypers and Aka/Uka/Ala/Amatsu

>>167793058
>Stop playing the game in ways I don't like

>>167793179
Who said that? I'm telling you building around coatings is stupid if you don't plan on soloing things only TA players would, and at that point you're supposed to know when using these skills is better, I'm telling you Load Up, True Shot, Load up is THE core skillset for Teo bow in Gen.

How do I farm dung bombs? Relatively new to this, but the hunting two khezu quest is driving me nuts.

>>167793297
cat shop beruna points

>>167793260
Are you so dumb you don't realize you were arguing with two different people?
I either play solo or with one person. I get more mileage out of Powercoat+1 than Normal Up. The discussion about Powercoat+1 has always been independent of your core skills discussion and has always assumed Normal Up would be what's being exchanged.
Calm your tits.

>>167793713
Which is wrong, Weakness Exploit should be the one to go, Weakness Exploit and the 4th skill you may have. You're losing 10% on both your +2 and +1.

>>167793850
You're losing 12.5% on both your +2 and +1.

>>167794091
Permanent+10% is more reliable than 50% crit on hypothetical weakspots, especially considering half the monsters have a 40/44 shot weakness

>>167794224
>>167794091
Normal Up
Load Up
True Shot Up
Weakness Exploit
Power Phial (Lv1)

Barrage Earring
Esurient Vest R
Esurient Guards R
Esurient Coat R
Storge Leggings S
-----------------
+10 Power C+ OO-
-----------------
2x Tenderizer Jwl 3
5x Irregular Jwl 1
2x Tenderizer Jwl 1
-----------------
153-308 Def, -8 Fir, -4 Wat, -4 Ice, -12 Thn, -9 Drg

shut it it's not hard to make, now kiss

>>167794224
I can't think of anything as dumb as >>167794091 to counter that with now. I wasn't sure where you came up with WE until I looked at the original reply, since I was basing it off of Load Up, True Shot, and Normal Up being the base.

Is it better to capture a monster or kill it? What gives more materials?

>>167794917
Kill, unless you need a tail and for some reason refuse to cut it.

>>167794917
different droptables same drops

>>167794917
Depends on what you want.
Some monsters are more likely to give their rares from carves, some from capture.

>>167794917
Depends on the materials you are aiming for.

Killing generally gives more common materials while capturing gives rarer ones, but there are exceptions of course.
In general you get a slight bit more materials overall if you kill, so if you have no specific goal I'd lean that way.

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>>167791275
It's the least relevant skill that you can drop for Use Power Coating level 1. Load Up and AuS provide smaller damage boosts so would be better candidates if dropping them alone would allow you to get Use Power Coating, but that's not the case. Weakness Exploit and TrueShotUp provide larger boosts than Normal Up (the latter being conditional on good play).

>>167791563
>>167791939
Ammo Saver is more efficient over the course of a long hunt than Load Up, especially when you consider that Load Up requires you to charge an extra level. However, Load Up allows for a faster hunt if you don't need 20% more power coatings.

That, however, is only true in a vacuum. The problem with your set is that it's outclassed. Use Power Coating gives you a lot more reach over the course of a long hunt than Ammo Saver does. Focus is not a premier skill anymore, as it doesn't make up for the lost damage of any other skill (except maybe AuS). You definitely don't need Focus.

The set that you listed is an inefficient middle ground. Shorter hunts are better done with the pure damage set I posted. Longer hunts are better done by dropping Normal Up for Use Power Coating.

>>167792646
>only TAs need more than 70 Power Coatings.
It's almost like you're a shitter who needs to be carried.

consider the following

powercoating+ isn't the same as 1.35x compared to 1.1x because the 1.1x is applied on top of a 1.5x from power coating level 2 (which you cannot use at the same time as level 1), which will apply to the first 70 shots. That means that first of all it's actually 1.15x, and second that, assuming the entire fight requires, let's say, 100 shots, power c+ is worth 30*.35 shots, or 10.5 extra shots, while normal up is worth 70*.15, or 10.5 shots. In other words unless the hunt takes over 100 SHOTS, powercoating+ is worth at best the same as normal up.

Normal up's damage is also more immediate, making it strictly better in multiplayer where more damage early on means more staggers which means your blademasters having more openings to deal large amounts of damage early on as well (truncating the hunt time).

So yeah there MAY be situations where the level 1 power coating is worth more, but I'm honestly not sure there are and if there are they're gonna be few and far between.

>>167793850
>Weakness Exploit should be the one to go
>10% is more than 12.5%

>>167794224
It's 10% vs. an expected 12.5%. Sure, Weakness Exploit has some RNG involved but over the course of a long hunt you would expect a damage boost of about 12.5%.

To put it another way, Weakness Exploit is expected to be 25% better than Normal Up. Again, this is RNG-based, so you could say it's not reliable... but the expected result is significantly higher than what Normal Up would get you, and you're just as likely to get a lucky streak with crits as you are an unlucky streak.

If the difference was a lot smaller you might have a good point, but there's no reason why you'd expect Weakness Exploit to underperform more frequently than overperform.

>especially considering half the monsters have a 40/44 shot weakness
This is why you have a set with WE and a set without it. You're also very much overstating how common this is. The monsters that don't have a 45 shot hitzone are mostly monsters that you don't want to use Bow on anyway. The only monster I can think of without a 45 that I would use Bow on is Kushala.

>>167795270
>True Shot over Load Up
I know it's almost the same but it offers much more opportunities to deal more damage.
>Dropping normal up
see>>167794582
>>167795793
Thing is, you can't always ONLY hit the weakspot, either because you miss, or because the secondary weakspot is much more easier to hit, WE over Normal Up is purely a TA situation while Normal Up over WE is a much more reliable and "casual" situation. You can never go wrong with a permanent 10%, meanwhile a 50% 25% on 45 hitzones...

>>167795598
Actually my maths are wrong, it just occured to me. After your power coating level 2 runs out, normal up still provides an extra 10th of a shot per shot fired, meaning another 3 shots' worth at 100 shots- Normal up is worth 13.5 in that situation, and power coating level 1 is worth 10.5. The actual threshold where use power coating matched normal up would be around 125 shots, so it's even worse.

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>>167795793
Tenderizer isn't always going to be useful, sometimes never useful.
Ideally, you'll want to have separate sets for separate monsters.
Also, >implying people other than relative gods are that accurate all the time

>>167796061
>>True Shot over Load Up
I might be blind, but I don't see that discussion anywhere in the post you're quoting.

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>>167796071
If we are to assume that the sets are exactly the same, with the only difference being Normal Up and Use Power Coating, we can set up the equation like this:

(1.5 * 1.1 * 70) + (1.1 * x) = (1.5 * 70) + (1.35 * x)

x is here equal to the number of shots taken to kill the monster after lvl 2 Power Coatings have run out.

115.5 + 1.1x = 105 + 1.35x

10.5 = 0.25x

x = 42

That means Use Power Coating becomes more efficient than Normal Up 42 shots after your level 2 coatings have run out.

Draw whatever conclusions from that that you will. It might be worth mentioning that after your level 1 coatings run out the efficiency will start to swing towards Normal Up, though if it takes that many shots to kill a monster something is going very wrongly.

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>>167796632
>Meet one of those people who claims to always hit their target or never gets hit
>They whiff constantly or are the first to cart

>>167796917
I'd like to believe they're so bad they don't know how bad they are, but honestly I'm starting to just assume they're stupid and just trying to inflate their hunting-dong.

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>>167796061
You should really be using both TrueShotUp and Load Up, not choosing between them. One can be obtained with your head alone and the other is a 5-slot skill. As far as investment for damage boost goes, they're both very efficient.

You need +10 Power Coating OO for the set he listed, and AuS is still better up to a certain point if you don't need more than 70 Power Coatings (and you usually don't need very many more for single-monster hunts, even solo).

>50% 25%

It's an expected 12.5% damage boost assuming you can hit the weak spot.

Also it's really not that hard to reliably hit the weak points. You're vastly overstating how frequent misses are. You don't NEED to land every shot on the weak point for WE to be better. You just need to land at least 80% of your shots to break even (for the expected result).

If you can't hit the weak point 80% of the time, you're just a bad player.

>>167795793
>Ammo Saver over Load Up
This is retarded, no matter how you look at it. The whole set and bow are based off +40% damage powershots

>>167796767
My equation
(70*.15)+(.1*x) = (.35*x)
is simpler and also works, I just made a rough estimate and came to 55. 42 is correct though, yes. 112 is exactly how many shots they cross over at.

>>167797450
In a vacuum, sure, but you're still relying on 50% of your shots hitting a weakspot.

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>>167796632
>Tenderizer isn't always going to be useful, sometimes never useful.
Looking at the chart you posted:
>Astalos, Thunderlord, Crystalbeard, Chameleos, Dreadqueen, Dreadking
These are unsalvageable for raw-based Bow no matter what you do. Neither Weakness Exploit nor Normal Up are useful. You should just not be using Bow for these monsters (or using some elemental setup). If you really want to... sure, use Normal Up.

>Redhelm, Snowbaron
Sure, use Normal Up for these, though again, you're better off using a different weapon.

>Silverwind
Pretty much all the TAs for this monster use Weakness Exploit. Oh, wait, you say... TAs aren't a practical example! Okay, sure, then just use Sonic Bombs to keep it permanently enraged and its head permanently a hitzone of 60.

>Also, >implying people other than relative gods are that accurate all the time
see >>167797450
You don't have to be accurate 100% of the time. You only have to be accurate more than 80% of the time. If you can't land 80% of your hits on the weak point, no skillset will save you.

>>167797514
You sure you replied to the right post?

>>167798256
see>>167795270
wrong post

Problem is, you're dropping Normal Up for WE supposedly in favor of Power Coat 1 when 3/4th of the quests in the game don't need it >>167797772

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>>167797948
Git fucking gud. If you're missing 50% of your shots you're a shitter.

>bawwwww I bet you miss shots too! lulz I bet you are bragging and you cart first lolololol

I don't hit 100% of my shots but I know I hit more than 80% of my shots. Stop projecting.

At least there's nobody arguing for Focus.

>>167798575
I'm not missing 50% of my shots, 50% of my shots on weakspots are not crit, and don't start saying it will average at the end of a hunt because that's not how it works once in game.

No one said that, take a pill and see a doctor.

>>167798256
>You should just not be using Bow for these monsters (or using some elemental setup).
The latter, because bow is actually one of the best weapons with element and capcom has just given us absurdly OP non-elemental options the last two games to even it out; Any situation where raw is inferior you want status or element and bow is extremely good for both. But actually just stick to teostra's and drop WE for something because it has fucking blast, which ignores armour and applies super fast with a bow, especially with 30 blast.

>>167798575
It's worth noting that in general (not 100% of course) if you're using power shots missing 1/5 is actually missing 1/3 since you can fire again with power shot to hit a second time, and neglect to do so if you missed. That's not a hard-and-fast rule but it brings the % that you can afford to miss (initially) way up regardless.

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>>167798478
This isn't hard to understand.

For quests that take fewer than 112 arrows:

Load Up
TrueShotUp
Weakness Exploit
Normal Up
AuS/Focus

For quests that take more than 112 arrows:

Load Up
TrueShotUp
Weakness Exploit
Use Power Coating
AuS

Do you have any objections to this?

Bear in mind, I've acknowledged that there are a select few monsters against which WE is not worthwhile, but that those monsters are the minority.

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Look at these cool new hunter arts, guys!

Stop fighting!

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>>167798701
>50% of my shots on weakspots are not crit
Weakness Exploit is a projected 12.5% damage boost. You're just as likely to roll higher than that as you are to roll lower than that.

It will average out over the course of a hunt. Some hunts you may get unlucky with your crits and end up having gotten an effective damage boost of less than 10%, but you're equally likely to get lucky and end up with an effective result of a 15% boost instead.

If you pick Normal Up over WE because you might get unlucky then you are retarded and don't know how probability works. Again, the expected result of WE is a 25% boost over Normal Up in the first place, so you can even get slightly unlucky and still end up outperforming Normal Up.

>No one said that, take a pill and see a doctor
>I'm blind!
>>167796917
>>167797146

>>167799067
My mandarin yes I know this is in japanese shut up they share kanji/zi is rusty but I'm reading that LS art as aunt sword?

>>167799067
For the life of me, I can't remember what the LS's new art is. Must have been boring.

>>167798871
>>167799227

We're not taking AuS into account, if you can fit AuS you can clearly fit Normal Up.
The charms for the second set are even more stupidly rare than the +10 Powercoat 00-
Of course AuS+WE is better than Normal Up over WE.
My point is simple : flat, reliable +10% on literally every single shot is much more reliable than 50% +25% on weakspots because most of the time you'll be hunting in multiplayer where you can't snipe them all the time (Thinking of Alatreon precisely)
Yes, WE is better than Normal Up if you can get the theoric +12.5% damage, but this is an average and you're subjecting yourself to more RNG.

Yes I know how probability works, I also know it's more likely to fuck with you, both in good and bad than to be the flat predicted average.

Those two posts aren't me.

>>167798701
>don't start saying it will average at the end of a hunt because that's not how it works once in game.
It actually is. If you fired about 5 shots or less every hunt you'd have a point, since approximately half the time you would necessarily have significantly more or less damage with WE, but that is simply not the case unless you exclusively hunt small monsters like bullfango and velociprey.

He's not saying you get a 12.5% boost on crits and should just trust that you'll get crits. You get a 25% boost on crits and should trust that you'll get crits half the time, which almost always averages out across 20 or more shots to be 12.5% from half the shots being non-crits. This is really fucking simple and I'm embarrassed for you that you aren't getting it.

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>>167798761
>The latter, because bow is actually one of the best weapons with element
I haven't seen any results from elemental Bow. For which monsters does elemental Bow outperform other weapons (and bear in mind, I mean other Blademaster and Gunner weapons, not just raw Bow)?

The only elemental Bow runs I've seen are the Alatreon Pierce runs on deviant Raths, but those are slower than other weapons.

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>>167799259
>>167799254
Hugely increased damage, drains your own health but restores it as you attack the monster.

It's called Rakshasa Blade or something along those lines.

>>167799429
I know it's 50% 25% averaging into +1.25%. I know how it works.
I actually started counting my crits back in 3U because of challenger and it almost never averages at exactly my affinity.

>>167799439
I mean that it's better for applying element. The reason you don't see elemental bow in Generations TAs is that, as stated, the best raw bow also has a shitload of blast, making it effective against most raw-resistant monsters you might otherwise use element for as well. (Plus it has sleep coating, which gives it basically 100% coverage for all monsters if you consider sleep bombing alongside its huge raw and blast, everything can be easily taken down with at least one of these things.)

>>167799606
What weapon did you use? A lot of weapons have multi-hit attacks that all go off the same crit roll, like lance's charge attack and everything DB does, so not only are there likely to be differences due to attacks having different numbers of hits, the differences are likely to look unexpectedly severe.

>>167799439
Probably because Capcom doesn't know how to balance the game and shit themselves after seeing elemental bows in 3U.

>>167799823
I'm not stupid, I know how multi-hits and crit works. It was accross multiple weapons, this was a generic set.
The same thing happened with the flat CE3 set over a larger sample.

>>167794917
Sometimes I got more generic shit when I kill and more specific shit when capture. But sometimes happen the opposing

>>167798871
the fact that the godcharm used for your sets can easily fit Normal Up instead of AuS..?

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>>167799353
>My point is simple : flat, reliable +10% on literally every single shot is much more reliable than 50% +25% on weakspots
Thanks for confirming for me that you are a retard who doesn't understand how probability works.

If you're extremely scared of RNG going against you, then sure, use Normal Up over WE. The vast majority of the time it will not pay off.

To break even with Normal Up, you only need 40% of your shots to crit. This is with an effective affinity of 50%. You are just as likely to get lucky and have 60% of your shots crit as you are to have only 40% of them crit.

Here's a test you can perform if you want to understand what I'm saying:

Craft any 0 affinity Greatsword (or any weapon that hits slowly enough that you can count your hits). Make an armor set with Weakness Exploit and no other skills that modify affinity. Go hunt a Bulldrome (the entire monster is a hitzone over 45). Count how many times you hit the monster and how many times you saw a critical flash.

Do this as many times as you please. Are you done yet? Good. Now divide the number of crits by the number of hits it took to kill the monster. You should get a decimal number which you can convert into a percentage.

Tell me how many of your runs resulted in a percentage lower than 40%. Those are the runs that represent runs where Normal Up would have been better.

>>167799606
>it almost never averages at exactly my affinity
It doesn't have to either. You just have to average more than 40% crits when your expected result is 50%.

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ITT: Autism

>>167800228
If you can fit Normal Up over AuS with your charm, then you should do so. The skills being discussed were Normal Up, WE, and Power Coating.

>>167799439
Also actually looking, the usual suspects (kushala, chameleos) have elemental runs, so do nakarkos and hellblade.

>>167800070
Then you had unusual luck. Shit happens, but it's a fluke. In the majority of cases flukes won't occur, most people's experience is average.

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>>167800525
ITT: Probability is hard.

>>167800525
Kut-ku is the posterboy for autism.

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>>167800525
fuck you im proud of my autism, stop trying to shame me

>>167800316
see>>167799606
>>167800070
I know how probability works, I'm telling you it's better to be safe than sorry, also see>>167799353
Normal Up+WE>AuS+WE>WE>Normal Up
Your set is harder to make than Normal Up+WE.
>>167800491
Stop looking at me like I'm retarded I know how that shit works, I'm telling you I prefer being safe than sorry because averages tend to fuck with me and everyone I know.
>>167800658
I reliably don't reach a perfect 50% average, the closest is 43% sometimes, I even did the average with all the runs including the unicorn 60% runs and it never gets to 60%.
My whole point is : better safe than sorry, don't get fucked by shitty RNG even if you know how probability works. It's not about being scared, it's about being SAFE, because even if you get the perfect 80% accuracy you're fighting monsters.
>>167800758
Trying to make me look like a retard when I'm clearly not only makes you look like an asshole.

Hey guys, I just finished watching La La Land.

>>167800885
get to 50% not 60%

>>167800885
>perfect 80% accuracy
man he's right you really are dumb

like dumb enough that I suspect you miscounted your crits, if you think he was saying 80% is a sweet spot you want to hit.

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>>167800658
I don't consider Le Desir and Heaven's Manna to be "elemental Bows". Those are just raw Bows with an element.

>Then you had unusual luck.
That's not even unusual. An expected result is just that, an expected result.

The fact, though, is that it doesn't matter if you have unusual luck. You're no more likely to get unlucky than you are lucky, and it's going to be very rare that WE performs worse than Normal Up.

To put it another way, Normal Up is what it looks like when you get unlucky with WE. Normal Up is reliably worse.

>>167801070
He's saying 80% is the point when WE gets better than Normal Up.
I'm saying this greatly restricts the hitzones you can hit because you don't always want to hit ONLY the weakspot on every monster.
Look at Zinogre, in a solo scenario you can reliably hit the head, count the shots and don't powershot in the air when it staggers, but you may want to hit the backlegs to trip it because it's badly positioned.
Same for Alatreon, though this one's not a tripspot.

>>167801002
Bye-bye man.

>>167801179
>That's not even unusual. An expected result is just that, an expected result.
Pay attention, I was talking to mister "I consistently got way less crits than I should have," not you.

This general has been especially alive lately and that makes me happy

>>167801179
Heaven's Mana has a relatively low raw for a final form of a weapon and one of, if not the highest elemental properties on a bow. The only thing keeping it from doing more elemental damage is that it's rapid instead of spread.

>>167801449
Half of it is me adviceposting and then shitposting in separate posts to not devalue my adviceposts

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Outbreak Tigrex is the first time I've gotten my shit pushed in completely, had to pussy out after I broke its claw for the subquest. Gonna try to get some skills for another attempt.

>>167801441
No, I didn't see that one. La La Land is the one with Ryan Gosaling.

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>>167800885
>the closest is 43% sometimes
If you get a 43% crit rate you are still doing better than Normal Up.

>unicorn 60% runs
Unicorn 60% runs are no rarer than unicorn 40% runs.

>better safe than sorry, don't get fucked by shitty RNG even if you know how probability works. It's not about being scared, it's about being SAFE
Look at it this way: sure, you can get unlucky with WE. However, Normal Up is worse than WE's expected result. In other words, Normal Up consistently underperforms WE. In other words, using Normal Up is like getting unlucky with WE every time, except there is no possibility of the opposite happening and you getting lucky.

Using Normal Up over WE for the reasons you posted is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You are afraid of getting "fucked by shitty RNG" so instead you choose to get fucked by consistently lower results instead.

/mhg/ - Math General

>>167801441
>Pay attention, I was talking to mister "I consistently got way less crits than I should have," not you.
You do realize I was agreeing with you, right?

>>167801550
But he got caught being wrong about something almost trivial in the middle of an argument and has to weasel out of it so he doesn't lose ground on the bigger point

I know because I do the same thing :^(

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>>167801346
If you know you're not going to be hitting the weak points, then use Normal Up. 10% is better than 0%. No debate there.

If you are expecting, however, that at least 80% of your shots will hit a hitzone greater than 45 as opposed to hitting a hitzone less than 45, then WE is the better skill.

agree/disagree?

>>167801849
No, it seemed that you took a confrontational tone. His result (supposedly getting CONSISTENTLY lower ratios of crits than he should have) isn't an expected result, anyway.

>>167801958
I'm not even a part of it, I just noticed you said something wrong.

>>167802118
I'm not him though, I'm just projecting my flaws onto him to cope with them! I was the guy that pointed out the runs in the first place!

>>167801696
Not exactly, this also means I get +10% when hitting non weakspots, and not every monster only has one desirable hitzone.
I know Normal Up is like getting stuck in the bad WE run but it allows for a bigger error margin and is generally safer unless you only fight monsters with only shitzones and one 45 weakspot like Chameleos.
>>167801958
I'm not weaseling, I'm shit at explaining.
>>167802034
You can't expect to hit 80% of your shots because every hunt is different, I do agree you should make a set for every situation but you don't know in advance, and most of the time when you need Power C+ the monsters are going to be monsters with multiple weakspots or monsters that don't really benefit WE, looking at Marshland Nightmare.
This is a case so rare you might as well not care and not make a different set with a most likely rarer charm.

>>167802209
Oh. I completely misread the first few words of your post. Apologies, bro.

>>167802331
(And I mean Chameleos as a non-gunner)

>>167802331
>I'm not weaseling, I'm shit at explaining.
these are weasel words

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should i buy a 3ds

note: it's 3x more expensive where i live

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These adds bosses are just as fun as I expected them to be. not fun at all

>>167802506
Those are literal autist words, I AM shit at explaining.
>>167802585
used 2DS are often much cheaper and good enough to play anything, if you want the best experience a N3DSXL is preferred.