/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

I want to bury my face in Kriemhild's _______

>>167681808
It didn't really take off due to how powerful twinks were in that game. Consider how things like a fully upgraded pyroflame would play out at that level. It doesn't even require scaling.

low level fights are kinda fun in 3 though since poison becomes useful and everyone has less endurance

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143536
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143538

>>167682426
scroll collection

Great Machete isn't broken, just misunderstood.

God damn Crypt Blacksword is fun to use.

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>>167682357
6th for superior lore

>>167681992
It's not superior to regular flame though.

Black flame + combustion is stronger than parting black flame.
This means that regular pyro flame is always better unless you are dual wielding flames, stacking its WA for some weird reason, or using BF for trading mostly, since that'd mean you get staggered out of casting the WA.

Only people that call parting too broken are the ones not using regular flame WA enough.

>worst souls 2 OP pic

You had one job.

>>167682580
one of the best greathammers in the game

the bell onna stick is better though because fashionsouls

>>167682607
the issue IIRC isn't the damage parting flame adds, it's the fact that parting flame's effect comes out BEFORE black flame, letting you hitstun people with it much earlier

>>167682502
That's a shame but it makes sense, realistically no matter the builds every duel is probably gonna end with someone at full health being one shot by pyromancy or a lightning weapon

>>167682607
>Black flame + combustion is stronger than parting black flame.
>Only people that call parting too broken are the ones not using regular flame WA enough.

???

You mean black flame into the combustion spell or into the combustion weaponart? Redpill me on pyromancy, I wouldn't mind being able to save three points of strength if I can use the normal flame as well as the parting flame.

>>167682776
If you can time the parting flame to hit and stagger people, why can't you time Black Flame a little earlier for the same effect?

>>167682819
He means the weapon art, which is stupid fast and combos from things.

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>>167682613
>he gets triggered that certain images are used for the OP
Thanks for the keks.

>>167682932
uh, faster things are better than slower things, anon

if the game was purely about damage UGSes and crystal soul spear would be the meme weapons instead of washing poles and straight swords

>>167682932
>If you can time the parting flame to hit and stagger people, why can't you time Black Flame a little earlier for the same effect?

because it requires being earlier?

that's like asking "if you can run a race in 5 minutes with those legs, why can't you do it with a slightly slower pair?". You're answering your own question.

>droprates increase gradually as you kill more enemies, the buff resets when you rest at a bonfire
>summonning phantoms drastically reduces droprates
>there's an item that allows you to respawn enemies without resting at a bonfire
y/n?

>>167682795
To be fair it's still a thing at higher levels, it's just that a dexpyro isn't going to have as many useful places to put their spare points if they're already running into softcaps, which makes their efficiency compared to sorc/miracles less meaningful in the grand scheme of things

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>>167671980
>>167672057
Sorry I'm a bit late in responding to this.

So, three things:
>Ariandel's flail is fully modeled, but is normally hidden by a model mask
>Ariandel has an animation for his flagellation
>In unmodified gameplay, there's no point where Ariandel's flail is visible or his flagellation animation is performed, it's all unused content and he just sits in his idle animation while the audio is being played

That won't stop me from showing it to you though, obviously. The animation itself does play a similar sound, or the same sound, as what you hear outside his room, but much quieter. If you were to have him remotely play the animation while you're in the bonfire room, you wouldn't hear it anyway.

>>167683049
>>167683073
Holy shit raped. I'll take my check please. cause I'm done

>>167682613
lol, really dude?

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>>167683312
I can see why they hid this

>>167682819
Black flame can combo into the combustion weapon art, and this combo deals more damage than parting flame can.
The best combo is parting flame on right hand casting black flame then l2 for combustion, but few people only run pyro flames.

>>167682776
If you're building poise correctly, you can still beat parting flame and win the trade, pyros can't beat 2 r1s from your weapon. If you're using a weapon with no poise, you can beat the flame speed since the parting effect is smaller than the BF hitbox and most smal weapons can outrange at least it.

Unless you're using a non corvian dagger, in which case, sorry.

Anyone around sl59 wanna help with kalameet? First run through the dlc.

>>167683354
I'm not sure if I just had an argument

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Is there any place in the soulsverse comfier than Catarina?
>Jubilant Catarina preset
>People are relaxed and favor food, drink, and cheer.
>Brew even an undead can enjoy
>knights are friendly and chivalrous
>Seems to still be intact unlike most other kingdoms despite people not giving a shit
>No oppressive government with assassins like carim/vinheim

Fuck Lothric. Imma go party with the onion bros and let the fire fade.

>>167683312
I see. Thanks for the explanation..

>>167683590
if I was forced to live in the world of dark souls but could choose where, I'd definitely pick catarina
if I couldn't for some reason then pre-dark eye astora as a noble could be alright I guess

>>167683528
no one does the dlc at such a low sl, i doubt you'll get anyone.

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>>167683449
There are some things that they just put in as set pieces for the trailers, so it's possible they never intended to use it ingame. An interesting note, he actually has two flail animations, the one shown >>167683312 and another where he's leaning more forwards so that his arms would be clipping into the basin (though you can use a model mask to hide the basin too).

>DLC adds canon end of the series
>IT WAS A DREAM ROFL xddd

Why is pvp so trash. It all comes down to waiting for the attack, rolling, and trying to punish. Going on the offensive first is almost always bad. Amazing Pvp "plays" like parrying or countering are all passive, reactionary actions.

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I want to make a character that focuses on using the morion blade.
does anyone have a build that they use with it or would use with it?

>>167684030
it ends with you fighting a demon and losing
the last cutscene is your character sitting unconscious in a cell
then, a corpse falls out of the ceiling

>>167684056
Low variety of movesets. Friede's Scythe allows you to be very, very aggressive if you know how to use it.

>>167682542
Yhorm's Machete isn't strong, the other greataxes that are weak

>>167684210
I didn't say Yhorm's.

>>167684030
they unironically end the series on the character waking up in yharnam

>>167684185
I think the problem that makes pvp so bad, is what makes pve so good. Which is the weight and delay of the weapon move after you hit the button. The problem is that the roll doesn't have this delay. Parrying does, weapon attacks do, but rolls do not. Why is there no roll delay?

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>>167680873
Don't tell me I'm the only one to realize.

>>167684150
It was a time travelling adventure, within a dream, utilizing alternate realities, inside the mind of miyazaki. Bravo.

>>167684551
I've got some bad news anon..

>only 3 sunlight medals in das 2 today...
Well, 10 more to go until sunlight spear
;_;

The quality of the Souls games are inversely proportional to their level-up waifu's chest size
>emerald herald is stacked
>DaS2 sucks
>firekeeper has an above average sized chest
>DaS3 wasn't that good
>MiB has small but present breasts
>DeS was okay
>the plain doll is flat
>BB was great
>bonfires don't have chests
>DaS1 was great

I started playing DS3 (I played demons and dark 1). I got to the undead settlement, in that tower with the elevator that goes either up or down, and jumped off the elevator at the right time it was ascending to find siegward on the ledge. I was low on health/estus and saw that giant tree demon and thought "what the hell, I don't even have many souls, just want to check out this area" and then siegward joined in which I did NOT expect.

Then this giant tree demon thing GAPED me while siegward was fighting it. Now when I return to the elevator it only goes down and not up like before.
Is he dead now? Did I fuck up? I kind of already threw 2-3 hours into this game, I don't want to have to start over.

here's a video I found showing the section of the game I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jLGmeHY3ik

halp

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>>167684847
>painter loli wants to paint her own fire

>>167684847
but there were at least 2 fire keepers in das1

>>167685194
You can only ever go up once per playthrough. Gotta wait for new game plus

>>167685298
And you don't level up at them, so they aren't level-up waifus.

>>167684146
Red Tearstone, Bloodring, under 30%, Tears

If you can afford it, maybe off-hand OWCS + Pontiff's Left combined with a piece of Kirk set. Otherwise, Sun Princess + Blessed off-hand.

>>167685194
Dark Souls 2 is great, you're missing out.

*coughcough at least the pvp*

>>167685194
Its a 2-platform elevator

>>167685194
one wrong move

>>167685194
you have to get on the elevator and get off immediately so you can step on the upper platform that will take you were siegward was

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[ominous distant boulder sounds]

this place really isn't all that bad. people told me the swamp was much worse than the rafters but while i'm not having a blast this place isn't "ugh blighttown sucks wow just wow what were they thinking"

>>167685507
CAN'T GO BACK

>>167685194
There's 2 elevators there anon, get into the middle floor and send the elevator down by running in and out of it.The one on top should descend.

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>tfw can't decide what my ideal control/character movement would be like

It's cloudy but I think the most comfortable would be something between DS1 and BB. Maybe with quickstep/short hops replacing roll with unique animations depending on equip burden?

Not official:

Yasutsuna (Katana)
Axe Flames Fan (Axe)
A Terrible Sword (???) (Curved Sword)
Tooth Made of Evil Magic (Curved Greatsword)
Greatsword of The Darkened Crypt (UItra Greatsword)
Dragonblood Great Shears (Ultra Greatsword)
Big Statue (???) (Greathammer)
Blooming Cherry Shield (Med.Shield)
Shield Door "Belonging" Rap (Greatshield)

>>167685357
kek

new info about dlc 2 when?

>>167685627
tomorrow

>>167685627
tomorrow streamers' NDA ends so they'll either leak a bit of info or spoil the entire thing

You will NEVER feel the SUFFERING of using a heavy weapon vs someone who has slight desync and NEVER takes risks, rolls against every one of your attacks, uses a small quick weapon and ONLY follows after you when he sees an opportunity to backstab. It is more suffering than the most bullshit deaths in PvE

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>>167685609
I knew the double doors belong to Rap.

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>>167685698
>>167685729
im itching for leaks senpai.

what time tomorrow tho? yokozuno time or burger time?

>>167685901
could be a reliable fellow

>>167685609
Is this from 2ch ?

>>167685905
Seeing as most of the """Pillars of the Community""" are burgers i'd shoot for that

>quickstep is a dagger WA instead of the effect of the carthus bloodring
for what purpose

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Fucking dumbass Scaley lmao

>>167685905
Are you serious Anon?

It's already the 8th in Japan, if the NDA was already expired people wouldn't be telling you to wait until tomorrow.

>>167685905
Somebody said 9am PST tomorrow, but I don't know how true this statement is.

>>167686103
U rike invisiber rorrs? No?

>LOST LIKE THE LAST FUCKING BILLION MATCHES IN A ROW
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
I'M NOT USUALLY THIS SHIT
WHAT'S HAPPENING

>>167685901
>>167686019
From a japanese board, but not 2ch

Don't trust it 100%, like I said, it's nothing official, but I thought it was worth posting anyway.

Ive finished getting 30 concord proofs, can i kill yorshka and get my chime now?

Miyazaki is not gona add a fucky extra level to covenants right senpai? There wont be a secret stuff related with this dlc and Yorshka right?

>>167686243
invisiber rorrs is the stickywhitestuff ring not the blood ring

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>>167686301
>can I kill Yorshka?
no, you degenerate

>>167686368
U no rike rorring? Rorring is dark souls tradition. U go pray my other gamu bloodbune.

>>167686261
I do the same thing anon. Until I get bumped to silver ranking. Then I start raping and go back to gold. The problem is gold ranking players are almost always pussy shitters that just fish for mistakes and never attack first.

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>>167686261

>>167684551
>Wanting to fuck a NotDragon crossbreed

>>167684791
I can't bring myself to do it
Hows the anti cheat in 2?

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>when your surprise greatarrow aims just right and you kill the host from a crazy distance

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>>167685807
I once spent an afternoon climbing up to gold in the arena with an ultra greatsword so I think I'm more than familiar with that feeling.
As shitty as the weapon class is, I don't even want them to get a buff at this point. I just want straight swords to get their insane phantom range removed. There is absolutely nothing you can do with a slow weapon against a passive SS user.

I wanna do a pyro run. The onyx blade is fun to use so that'll be my main weapon but I need advice on spells/weapons before I reach that point. PvE is my thing so I don't care about pvp.

Iirc the best pyros are chaos bed vestiges and black snake? What's the recommended progression for spells? Because those 2 are found only once you defeat abyss watchers.

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>>167687037
I figure a lazy person could make a webcomic with that site
It's pretty fun just seeing what color it randomly goes with

>>167687210
it can be pretty hard to get it the way you want sometimes but its a really cool tool to use

>>167684056
You have arrows, crossbows, throwing knives, firebombs, fireballs, souls arrows all which will force your opponent to approach is DaS1

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>Nearly kill dude
>He runs away constantly until I can't be bothered to give chase
>He casts heal 3 times
>Use chime weapon art and run away from him until my health has regenerated too
>Starts pointing down at me

>>167687471

Yes, you got trolled. Did you think this was original?

>>167687471
Its the best when they point down before anyone dies, you kill them, and then point down. Otherwise I never use that gesture.

>>167684790
>>167686958

I was refering to the content of my earlier post.

the only gestures i ever use are call over, patches squat, and the dickblood one

>>167684847
das1 is not great

penis compensator fags forever rekt
thank you dark souls III

>>167688251
what

>>167686121
Don't bully Yorshka, it's not her fault she was raised by a trap and then locked away by Wood Man

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>>167682357
Want to make a valkyrie build to guide these useless undead the fuck out of Lothric Castle but miracles feel kind of weak. Should I just wait until DLC brings that sweet looking bow?

>>167688315
straight swords

>>167688083
woah dude that sounds really funny xP i've never seen anyone do that before have an upboat

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>>167688541
Something being weak shouldn't stop you from having fun.

>>167688635
thanks anon remember to comment, like, and subscribe ;)

What's a good halberd to use for a str build? DaS3.

>>167688784
Have you tried the Winged Knight Halberd?

>>167688784
Winged Knight or Gundyr's i think

>>167688784
Gun Deer's Halberd

>>167688830
I haven't tried anything, it's my first playthrough.

>>167688784
Winged Knight if you want to look good.
Gundyr's if you're a thirsty metacuck.

>>167688909
Well, you can farm it off the first winged knight in the first area of the game, so there you go.

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>>167688649
Yeah, you're right. I'll just rock a spear and throw lighting all over the bless. Have an edgy valkyrie.

>>167688784
gundyr's halberd is one of the best in the game

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>>167688830
>>167688875
>>167688904
>>167689021
>>167688923
Aight, I guess I'll farm the shit out of that fat fuck for a while. Thanks anons.

>>167689204
Remember
Spin to win

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>>167688649
This must be kinda old. Warped Sword got nerfed hard, didn't it?

>>167689368
They removed some of the things it could pair with, but it's still really good just for the paired moveset applying to weird shit like washing pole.

>>167682878

chimes have a built in hp regen skill so it's always good to grab one early

>>167689368
best weapon in the game along with longsword

Do you rush to bosses doing a NG+?

How do you make the Immolation Tinder work?
18 faith requirement with int scaling while preferably having poise as well seems impossible to balance.

Anyone got a good Tinder build?

>>167689742
I rush to bosses after I get to them the first time and am confident that I explored the area thoroughly.

>>167689948
Stacking poise on halberds is pointless after the nerfs. Just get the min reqs and pump everything else to INT.

>>167689948
12fth requirement. 18str and dex.

Start with pyromancer, don't fucking bother with poise. It's not much worse than Moonlight Greatsword.

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Question

Did anyone notice that sexy new armor on the bow guy?

>>167689368

Everything looks like its skating on ice in this game.

>>167690254
Yeah, plenty have.

>>167690369
It looks floaty but movement in Dark Souls II is more like stiff.
Dark Souls III movement also looks floaty like that but at least it's smooth and precise to actually control.
DaS/DeS felt both heavy without feeling too stiff.

>>167688649
>red iron twinblade OP
maybe in PVE
it still had slow startup and short as shit range in pvp though

>>167688541
Use the unofficial patch.

>>167684551
To answer your question, don't firekeepers see other things like spirits and shit? They're not just blind. Like how Irina can eventually "see" you.

>>167689531
I have one, but I'm talking about damage, oniichan.

I had fun using Farron Greatsword and Friede's Great Scythe. Any other gimmick weapon that fun?

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>>167690369
>tfw no Drangleic on Ice: Feeble Cursed One, the Musical

I'm restarting DS2 since i haven't played it in a year and my character was garbage.

Trying to decide between sorcery, pyromancy, hexes and miracles.

Do any of them get more interesting spells than "hit the enemy from a distance"?

>>167691524
Hexers make corpses explode.

Otherwise not really.

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>>167691393
I've done it.

>>167691524
I played on release and faith was viable and fun
They made it pretty shit though to keep in line

Does chime slow heal stack with replenishment?

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What the fuck does curl up even mean? I've been playing since release and I don't get why people seem to find this gesture so funny.

>>167691317
Depends on how far you want to go into gimmickry. Dancer's sword's are fun, but their triple split damage is really bad. You can make any paired weapon roughly twice as fun by equipping OWCS on your back and wearing both Pontiff rings. Winged Knight Twinaxes with OWCS and Pontiff eyes makes spinning great again. Heavy infused Saint Bident with a buff is better than it has any right to be. Stacking miracle rings, Rose buff, and using Saint's Talisman will let you do decent damage with the otherwise shitty physical miracles (emit force doing 300 a pop is fun). Moonlight Greatsword and Greatsword of Justice are in a category all their own. Immolation Tinder is a swiss army knife on a stick if you can make a build specifically for it. Dual wielding Rapiers is the secret meta. Crystal Sage Rapier is better than anyone thinks, especially if you're using its weapon art instead of just R1 poke spam.

>>167691524
Pyros and hexers have lots of close range spells like Dance of Fire, Dark Dance, Outcry, and Scraps of Life.

>>167691874
you get it from greirat the first time you see him after giving him Loretta's Bone

>>167691871
Yes.

>>167691874

It's cute!

>>167692015
>got grabbed by the dickwraith
>still managed to ohko me from full health even with both active

Fucking dick.

>>167691661
who hasn't?? she's easily the cutest DSII female

>>167691524
faith is fun, you get a lightning storm spell

>>167692105
then who's the cutest das2 male?

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Anyone want to co-op Ashes? Just made this Twindagger build. I'm SL 120.

Ignore those Hollow icons pls...

>>167692329
pate

>>167692378
PC or PS4?

>>167692378
>>167692467

PC. Forgot. Pass would be dsg.

>>167692105
Not as long as Ornifex exists

>>167692539
Welp I'm out then. I'm one of the few PS4 bros.

>>167692602
>there will never be a ps4 fightclub

>>167691661
>>167691393
>>167692105
>Cholanne DS2's amazing chest : some dumb rock collector
>Gywnavere DS1's amazing chest : literal goddess, bathed in sunlight, accompanied by choir singers.

DS1>DS2

>>167692539
I'll help you in like 5 minutes.

>>167692656
I'm not butthurt about it because I'm a PVEfag anyways.

>>167692378
>>167692539
Sure but I'm sleepy and also shit at playing this game.

>>167692679
Also
>not real you fuckboi

>>167692707
>>167692730

Alright. Got one of you.

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>>167692679
>literal goddess
That's right man, she's a real goddess in the flesh. And you're the chosen one! And you get to be a king!

Just don't touch her too hard, you'll mess up the texture mapping.

>>167691897
>both pontiff rings
the heal ring is useless garbage
the heal effect from the OWCS (which triggers after ~4-6 hits) is 120hp, while the Left Eye only gives 30. You can combine them both to heal 150 a pop if you really want to but it's a waste of a ring slot. Instead you can stick the lingering dragoncrest ring on for Carthus Beacon which also synergizes with the same shit but has an awful, short duration.

>>167692820
Chloanne isn't real either. she's a videogame.

Playing through Strength/Faith at the moment. I'm just at Abyss Watchers, rocking the Earthseeker. Going to first push towards getting End and Strength up before really focusing on the faith component, but any tips? Any weapons/miracles/talismans you would recommend? I'm so far just relying on Replenishment and smacking the crap out of stuff. I'll probably end up relying on Sacred Oath as my main miracle.

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Why the hell are Halberds still so OP. I was told they nerfed it! They should entirely remove the hyper armor from these and make the hitbox smaller! Halberds are ruining PvP!

Curved Sword and Greatsword should be the only META!

>>167692939
lmao sorry anonI am so shitty I think I need to go sleep.

>>167692994
That's because most people don't know Pontiff's Left Eye has a second stage just like the right eye.

If you can land another six hits while the glowing blue effect is on your character, it heals all your HP instead of only 30. Take that shit into the Deacons fight or anywhere with tons of enemies and you can keep mashing L1 and never die. I use it when invading ganks to tag them all with a spin attack for free hits and about two seconds of complete invincibility.

>>167691897
>>167692994
also I don't think multi-hit WAs trigger the wolf sword/pope ring/carthus beacon effects

twin weapon l1s count as 2 hits, but something like a pike's charge WA hits like 5 separate times but only counts once

>>167693228
okay I didn't know about that one

>>167693289
>Charge counts as one
From really does hate the Greatlance

>>167693128
>tfw a second invader came

>>167693289
>also I don't think multi-hit WAs trigger the wolf sword/pope ring/carthus beacon effects
Multi hits from dancer's swords and winged axe spins absolutely do trigger eyes/beacon/wolf buffs separately. I use them all the time.

>okay I didn't know about that one
Yeah, it's hard as fuck to pull off. The only way I've ever done it is against a cluster of 2-3 enemies at once.

>>167693380
yeah I was real disappointed when I tried that out

the combo was apparently silly OP for caestus when they had that l1r2l1l1 truecombo but I think that got nerfed away

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>beat hot monmusu
>finally get out of blighttown through new londo
>come across this

what is he thinking about

WHERE ARE THE LEAKS?!

>>167693650
The pipes are airtight this time, senpai.

>>167693605
so dreamy~

also what the fuck some fag ganked firelady and now I can't rest on firelink shrine

why is this HAPPENING

>>167693650
12-24 hours from now

>>167693605
>thingken of Dark

>>167693714
Loot her corpse, read the full item descriptions.

What's the most fun in DS2: STR weapons or DEX weapons?

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>>167693714
fuck forgot my image

>>167693823
FUGS, Red Rust Twins
Alonne's sword is also pretty nice

>>167693048
Sunlight straight sword has sacred oath so I have that as backup for the bastard sword or darkeblood sword I buff
Sunlight spear can kill shit still as far as I recall, they really fucked us though, that and lightning stake can be good, can use the talisman that gives hyperarmor to trade for finishers

>>167692992
Why did Gwyndolin make his big sister's chest so detailed and revealing?

>>167693823
Dex ones are fun as fuck
Even generic shit like dragonslayer spear(that you can't buff for some reason) is still fun

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>>167693823
ultra greatweapons a best

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>>167693972
We'll never know.

>>167693972
It's just as accurate as the statues around Anor Londo

>>167694056
Those could also be illusions

>>167693972
Hot for big sis

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Never done a magic playthrough, should I aim for 24 att or 30? Is that spell/ring setup alright?

>>167693972
So people wouldn't notice that he's a guy with tits I guess.

>>167694227
Use Great Farron Dart instead of the regular version

>>167693927
>>167693996
>>167693998
You guys are the worst. Why can't you even agree on this? What am I supposed to do, decide for myself what I find fun?
FUCK

>>167694214
But did they /ss/?

>>167694125
You're stretching. It requires less bullshit to assume Gwyndolin is copying the real thing, as shown by other depictions of the real thing, than simultaneously making up all depictions of the real thing in a city for some unknown reason.

>>167694227
24 ATT is fine. I'd g 12 or 13 STR and 2H the tinder so you can get more VIG/END. Also, replace crystal soulmass with regular soulmass.

>>167694348
if you have fun in a video game it means you arent focusing enough on Gitting Gud

>>167694390
Honestly I just assume dark souls is a convoluted mess of unfinished game so none of it matters.

>>167694497
>>167694390
Can't you just shoot Gwynevere's tits and go check if the statues are still there?

>>167694497
Most of Dark Souls' "lore" is pretty straightforward overall and leaves some room for interpretation around the less-relevant edges.

People have made a literal industry out of muddying it as much as possible to make people feel stupid and buy into their bullshit theories for Youtube dollars.

>>167694631
This tbqh, dark souls has the most coherent story and world out of all 3 games

>>167694631
Fucking Sanadsk and Vaati

>>167694784
Bloodborne did pretty good at being coherent and straightforward, keeping everything nicely contained in the game and its DLC.

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>+1 fire club 10 minutes into the game

>>167694784
That's why Demon's Souls will always be my favorite when it comes to a narrative type of thing.

>>167694878
>Bloodborne did pretty good at being coherent and straightforward
For the most part, yes. There's a handful of things that weren't entirely clear, but they don't have much bearing on the main plot

>>167694878
Yeah that's why I meant out of the 3 dark souls games, DeS isn't too bad but is pretty odd near the end there

>>167694878
I like how Fromsoft went out of their way to disprove just about every retarded youtuber theory.

>muh menstrual blood
>bloodletting beast is lawrence
>ludwig is forgotten madman
>doll is oedon
>countless others

So funny. Here's hoping they do it again.

>>167695142
>>ludwig is forgotten madman
Never heard that one, it was usually "Ludwig is the Cleric Beast"

>>167695142
I was so glad they stomped out that fucking retarded shit of Solaire being Gwyn's banished son for good.

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>>167693650
There's this.

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Am I autistic? I made this as a reference to myself but ended up spending an hour on it.

Karmic Justice description:
>Miracle of the black-haired witch Velka. Temporary autocounter vs. heavy damage.
>For each sin there is a punishment, and
it is the task of Goddess Velka to define
the sin, and mete out the punishment.
>witch Velka

Vow of Silence description:
>Secret rite of black-haired witch Velka. Prevents casting of magic within effect area.
>Velka, the Goddess of Sin, is a rogue deity, but she is versed in arts both new and old, and is considered to have a great range of influence even as gods are concerned.
>witch Velka
>Velka, the Goddess of Sin

Is Velka a witch or a Goddess?

>why the point down?
>triggered?
>no just curious

every time

I still don't understand why Gwynevere is actual giant size, but Gwyn and Gwyndolin are just normal size.

>>167695424
Post jap text

>>167694878
>Fucking Sanadsk and Vaati

How come the most successful ones are the least competent at actually interpreting the material themselves?

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>>167695503
Bigger is better

>>167695503
It's an illusion of her during the height of the age of fire, Gwyn was likely bigger than her but since he's a mostly hollowed burnt out husk now he's withered away, Gwyndolin is a pile of snakes wrapped in some cloth.

>>167695404
>numbering everything
>still saying ASS in the text

>>167695503
She's here to fucking inspire hero

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>>167695503
Could just be the illusion.

>>167695512
who is more competent? Every one else I've seen is either roughly the same or considerably worse.

>>167695676
The numbers are just to save space, ASS is fine as it is.

>>167695424
>goddess of sin
>no lewds
Come on

>>167695424
The Witch of Izalith was a bearer of a Lord Soul and by all rights a goddess of the same standing as Gwyn. There's no rule you can't be both.

>>167695923
Witch seems more like an occupation while God is a state of being.

>>167695309
>for good
You wish. They never stopped, now they just say NK's stuff doesn't explicitly call him Gwyn's son and that he's a red herring.

>>167684146
morion blades stack

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>>167695767
Whoops, wrong one.

>>167685609
>Greatsword of The Darkened Crypt (UItra Greatsword)
POPSICLE?
hopefully it's actually an UGS this time

>>167695512
Because someone had to pick up the slack when ENB quit the lore business.

>>167695812
ENB is pretty good about separating his speculation from what is actually in the item descriptions and while some of his speculation sometimes may be a bit out there, he usually says it's just speculation. Plus, of course, he worked on the guides for two games.

>>167687037
did a toddler take this comic and tried to watercolor it?

>>167688923
but gundyr's looks better than winged knight's

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>>167696507
A bot did.
http://paintschainer.preferred.tech/
It doesn't work well without a human giving it suggestions. That's what it looks like without color suggestions. This is what something with color suggestions looks like.

>>167696507
There's a program that attempts to color things procedurally. I'm guessing it's that.

>>167695720
>the most inspiring thing gwyndolin can think of is his mother's gigantic cleavage

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>>167695489

>>167696641
>mother's
Sister's

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>>167694631
>>167694878
>>167695142

I personally dont mind the details of the lore being left open to interpretation. This paired with the story telling, at least in comparison to other games, being rather subtle makes it fun for me to try to figure out these details myself. Much of the world building is either done subtly or completly left to the player. I however regocnize that these are just my subjective interpretations and at least try to make them as "realistic" in the game world as possible and based on what I see as evidence. Unfortunately a lot of the lore community on the consumer side is an unwillingness to discover the world of dark souls for themselves and ironically the want to have the lore spoonfed to them to be able to claim that they are figuring out the obscure lore of such a "smart" game like dark souls. They are equivalent to the people who run through it once, maybe even with summons, to be able to say that they beat a game as "tough" as dark souls. For the lore content creators this firstly means that they have found a market niche and since you dont even need to have any understanding of the concepts used in dark souls or of mythology in general apparently, see vaati, it isnt even hard to find a place in this market niche as long as the presentation of your content is cinimatic enough since this is what the main stream audience sees as the non plus ultra as quality. The actual unsensical fan fiction theories are made when these content creators who, especially vaati, are put on the spot and have to deliver quick for example when a dlc comes out or a game is fairly new and/ or run out of content and/ or have no clue what could be going on in the background of the main story. Vaati and perhaps others even saw themselves forced to plagiarize others in order not to have to go cold turkey on the sweet sweet youtube bux. The worst part is that their fans just eat it up and worship them as some kind of geniuses.

>>167693605
second chillest nigga, first being the stone dragon and third nito

>>167696767
Sorry I slipped, that's the most inspiring thing I can think of.

>quickstep only let's you step in four directions while locked on

>>167687116
Is using buffstacked hyper-mode to one shot a host with a great bow still a thing? What is the most convenient set up? Is it viable at lower level/upgrades too? I've always wanted to try it but never built for it.

>>167696004
it's the next best thing. solairefags went on with much less.

After all the DS1 I played, I'm sick and tired of wailing on bosses with melee weapons
I wanna do an INT/FTH run in DS2 where I annihilate regular enemies with elemental infused weapons and nuke bosses with hexes, would that work?
I remember in DS1 it was kinda painful to do a melee mage build unless you farmed green titanite early

>>167697089
It ruins his character, him being another regular guy was what made him cool, he was just a crazy guy going through the same shit as you

>>167696875
I feel bad for Nito, the guy just got done putting down a rebellion after getting betrayed by one of his own servants, had to kill some guy who broke into his room to clonk him with a hunk of metal on a stick, then when he goes to take a nap another guy breaks into his room and stabs him.

>>167697291
Maybe he should have kept his miasma of death and disease to himself then

>>167694784
Dark Souls 1 has a coherent world because it answers to no other game while the sequels are tasked with the impossible task of not shitting on the vague nature of Souls story while providing some form of continuance and revelation for the players. There's also the matter of non-miyazaki Dark Souls 2 muddying up the waters by stating that Gwyn was reincarnated into Balrog and so on and DS3 had to basically subtly erase DS2's contribution to the DS story out of existence.

>>167697291
I feel bad for Nito because we'll never see nor hear of him ever again, while we got an entire area and boss dedicated solely to worshippers of Seath.
Him and the Witch don't get nearly enough love.

>>167696770
If you can make an interpretation that doesn't conflict with the in-game facts and builds upon the obscure and indirect lore, then you pretty much got a dark souls story. It doesn't matter if it's what Miya has in mind when writing the plot, he wants people to draw their own conclusions. So, in a sense, these "geniuses" have figured out the story

>>167697491
It wasnt really a matter of reincarnation, OIK took the soul of Gwyn or what remained of it to fuel his power

Thats what he found below the lava; Gwyn's Soul

>>167697491
>DS3 had to basically subtly erase DS2's contribution

They did a pretty bad job at that, putting all those DaS2 items and lore into the game and confirming Drangleic is real and the events of DaS II happened.

>>167693823
Go STR and ultra weapons. STR weapons were at their best in DS2 and BB.

Bought Dark Souls III on steam and enjoying it so far, I want to try out the DLC before spending $14,99 on it, can I download it for "free" and still play online with other steam users?

>>167696912
kek, forgiven

>>167697707
Well how much damage do those do? Like I said I'm sick of wailing on bosses, and I just assumed hexes are equivalent to DS1 sorcery, damage-wise
Also, it's kind of boring to have to go with the basic upgrade path or whatever DS2 calls it the entire time

>>167697765
No.
Also if you're enjoying DS3 buy the DLCs, although you got fucking jewed by buying base DS3 and the DLCs separately when the GOTY is coming out in 2 months.

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>>167696097
>>167695767
>solaire
>>167696636
>>167696637
huh. so in a sense, a toddler. pretty cool

Is millwood just flat out better than the other bows?

>>167698083
It outdamages my greatswords

>>167697128
Hex builds are really fucking broken in DaS2, Dark Orb annihilates anything that isn't a DLC enemy or who specifically resist Dark damage.

The one problem is that they require a lot of stat investment, but on the flip side you also hit the soft cap for Pyromancy at the same time, and can sub-class in every other school of spellcasting.

>>167697973
It's not like I paid full price (paid $29,99), since the GOTY is going to be out I guess the seasons pass or DLCs are going to have their pricec lowered?

>>167698149
>The one problem is that they require a lot of stat investment
That's why I asked about those elemental weapons because I'd be fucked with STR/DEX scaling ones. How soon can you do those infusions to get some INT/FTH scaling?

>>167698246
>seasons pass or DLCs are going to have their pricec lowered?
Doubt it

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>>167697635
Well of course. I dont claim otherwise. As I said I do that shit too and it seems to be a lot of fun to other people as well, otherwise there would not be an established community. I also quite frankly dont really care all that much for miyazakis vision. I see dark souls lore as a frame work to make my own interpretations and to hear the ones of others. The problem, for me at least, is that many "pillars" of the lore community base their theories on little or no in-game evidence because there is a competition on whose theories are the most out there to attract views. I personally also find it kind of sad that the ones getting the most revered are also the ones with either the evidently weakest theories and/ or the most shallow ones because people want them presented to them on a silver platter without actually doing any of the research or even thinking themselves and this goes against what I understood as the point of dark souls lore being so obscure. People actually interpreting dark souls lore and making their own stories is not something Im against, quite the contrary.

>>167697682

Apparently he found Gwyn's soul just prior before that. If you iron out all the "maybe it did, maybe it didn't" shit in DaS II, apparently old iron king got his hands on the golem maker after Vendrick disappeared, allowing the iron king to make the ironclads and smelter demons.

Iron king was in the process of apparently making another golem and when he gave it the lord soul it either forcefully merged with him or smashed him and took his soul and became the Old Iron King boss.

>>167698246
Okay well then the price for the goty is probably gonna be roughly on par with base game plus dlcs.

Either way, I don't know if Ariandel is worth 15$, it was short as fuck for me and I spent 8 hours on it, it should've been at the price range of 10$ honestly unless you're really into the arena.

For a faith build that wants some backup range (and for shooting stupid ass giants) is Knight's Crossbow the way to go? Or is it as useless as Darkmoon Bow on sorcerers?

>>167698351
As soon as you pick up the Ember, which is really soon. I don't remember where exactly it is in SotFS, but you only need to kill one boss for it and there's a dark stone down the Majula hole.

>>167698586
What's your take on ENB? He was a big lore guy until he kinda gave up his mantle as a lore theory guy.

>>167697491
>There's also the matter of non-miyazaki Dark Souls 2 muddying up the waters by stating that Gwyn was reincarnated into Balrog and so on
>muddying up the waters
How so?
Linking fire in the end of first dark souls could possible lead to the two things:
Fire will vomit souls again from itself, allowing hollows to die and civilization to fully be rebuilt
Or
DeS style, souls that there burned in the fire will disappear from the world forever, and relinking fire will only stop undead curse for the time. Countless destroyed kingdoms will still be full of hollows and unlikely will be rebuilt ever
DaS2 go with more optimistic one, and "reincarnation" makes sense
DaS3 tried to do second, but failed with "many cycles" and other garbage because this way world couldn't survive even 3 lords of cinder

>>167698246
Have you checked what the season pass has been going for on cdkeys sellers?

>>167697271
as I understand it, solairefags thought of it as "holy shit, I'm literally fighting side by side with my covenant leader and patron god". but I agree that him being a human made him much more badass. he was a shining beacon for all sunfags and as a dickwraith, i'm kinda jealous we didn't get a similar exemplary npc. the only thing close to that was maldron, but his charm was mostly because of cheating rather than character (although he did do some genuinely dickish stuff). if he had used warmth instead of estus or showed the invasion sign in eleum loyce, dropped you a seed of the tree of giants and then backstabbed you while pulling the lever or fighting the slug, he'd be by far my favourite npc of all souls games

>>167698727
IIRC, Knight's crossbow doesn't actually scale with Faith. So, useless.

>>167698939
There's Leonhardt from DS3. He's a finger but I think he counts as a Darkwraith kinda character.

>>167699107
Oh shit that's right. Crossbows don't scale with anything. Welp, into the trash it goes.

>>167698681
apparently you really like the word "apparently"

>>167698930
$18

>>167698939
The "Solaire is Gwyn's firstborn" memers always struck me as people who havn't actually finished the game but really love jolly co-op memes and lore videos, Solaire's questline and his gear's descriptions shit on that theory harder than anything else.

>>167698727
>>167699196
The new DS3 DLC looks like it might have a faith bow that literally shoots lightning.

>>167699168
But then he goes off and kills Rosaria. Yellowfinger becomes a mangrub and Kirk is once again white-knighting.

>>167699168
he's just an edgelord waifufag brooding in the corner. he's not a solaire, more like a pate.

>>167699310
Yeah, looks sweet. Don't know if I'll be straight up done with this character by then, though.

>>167695503
Because all of them were originally giant size?

Go watch the opening cutscene again. Izalith is multiple times the height of her witches. Gwyn fucking towers over the silver knights.

It's not like this is a niche concept to DaS. The most souls you get and the more you power up, the more HUGE you are. Vendrick was a regular-ass human Undead when he started out, and when he hit endgame and became king, he's suddenly five times your height. Meanwhile Gwyn burned away his soul for a thousand years and Gwyndolin was always a weak little bitch boy, so they're much smaller.

>>167698939
Solaire is odd and friendly, but "exemplary NPC" that represents the best of the covenant's values seems a bit much when by the end of his questline he's completely lost his mind by worshipping a demonic maggot. If we're going by covenant leaders or even presumed covenant leaders, Darkmoons have always had the market cornered on that, with Gravelords being retroactively vindicated by II making Nito the best Lord ever.

>>167697583
Shrine of Amana and the Undead Crypt in 2 had a fair bit to do with him. Most coherent part of 2 in overall, really.

>>167694921
>play Dark Souls 2
>get a +10 weapon after only 3 bosses

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>>167698829
Im very biased since he is more or less what got me into the whole lore thing and I was fairly young. From what I remember he makes probable assumptions about the dark souls world and doesnt go too much into speculation and when he does, see bloodborne menstrual blood theory, he always makes this clear. I am exaggerating when it comes to vaati too, he has gotten a lot better. He is for example showing on screen which item descriptions are his sources. His theories are still either pretty shallow or way out there and show that he does not have a deep understanding of the lore at large. His main merit is the presentation which would be dandy for character subplots but less for lore which is in regards to the actual world building. I also think that plagiarizing without giving credit is a no go. I mainly dislike him because of his fanbase and because he is always presented as the dark souls lore scholar which he clearly is not. Sorry for my autistic mumblings about things you didnt even ask for btw, I just needed to get this off my chest.

>>167699653
>gravelord's iconic weapon going from a based CGS to a faggy katana and a faggy UGS

If anything, 2 made Nito look worse

>>167699653
Solaire is friendly, strong as fuck and has his sign down for some of the hardest bosses. Any aspiring sunfag looks up to him
>If we're going by covenant leaders or even presumed covenant leaders, Darkmoons have always had the market cornered on that, with Gravelords being retroactively vindicated by II making Nito the best Lord ever.
what does that even mean? i'm not comparing covenants and the leader of none of those fights beside you (im not saying solaire is the covenant leader, just that that's what solairefags thought)

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>>167699653
>II making Nito the best Lord ever

Gravelord here, fuck that shit. The Rotten is a wannabe and I don't even know what an "Old Dead One" is.

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>>167696636
is it just me or does priscilla's face look exactly like mugi in this pic

>>167700039
I was mad as hell about that too, but hey, can't have everything

>>167697128
you don't even need weapons you can just go full hex and kill all the normal enemies with dark orb
it gets something like 30 casts per attunement slot

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>>167700164
>didn't even get past Mirror Knight
The Rotten has nothing to do with Nito, he just jacked a fragment of his soul.

>>167700164
The Rotten literally never crossed my mind when I was typing that. I was mostly thinking of >>167699810

>>167700163
Well Anon mentioned having NPC characters that served as beacons for their respective covenants. I was just commenting a bit on that idea

>>167698681
I don't get why people are confused about Gwyn's soul being part of the Iron King. The Iron King was greedy asshole that lived in excess, and tortured undead for shits and giggles. I doubt even Gwyn's lord soul could quickly turn him.

>>167698082
>solaire

He was a convenient frame of reference for player size.

>>167700318
Yeah but that's no fun, and there's the reason why I wanna play the build like I do
Just annihilating enemies with magic isn't fun, but it isn't fun either to fight the millionth "lmao just evade him and hit him and repeat 50 times dude" boss

>>167697491
i don't think the DS1 souls being available in NG+ in DS2 is any worse than, say, the same Moonlight Greatsword being in every game since king's field.

Nobody's saying that DeS is secretly in the same setting as KF just because it has a weapon that's a reference to them

>>167700164
I think all The Rotton used Nito's soul for was crazy glue to keep his mass of corpses held together.

What level should I be under to stay eligible for watchdogs of farron summons?

>>167699653
If you fail his questline. Otherwise he journeys all the way to the Kiln of the First Flame to help you in battle one final time, and then links the flame in his own world for the good of everyone else. That's pretty representative of sunbro values.

>>167700341
I'm including the no-name-given master of Undead Crypt in that. Went from spreading death around the world to running a retirement home for old hollows.

>>167700485
>"lmao just evade him and hit him and repeat 50 times dude"
that's every souls boss except for gimmick ones like izalith or the X-3 ones in DeS

difference with magic is that you roll backwards instead of forwards and dont have to worry about being in range for your weapon

>>167700524
Not that anon, but I don't think NG+ content is canon to begin with. Think about it: in Dark Souls 1, you get Gwyn's soul after killing him when he supposedly dropped that thing into the fire. The fact that you can't get the real Moonlight Greatsword on a normal playthrough should tell you that they're bonus extras included only for memes and reference.

>>167700384
im that same anon. it has nothing to do with the staying power of the respective covenant leader, it's about examples being made and followed.
>>167700456
i guess he does. could have used the player though. thought you had him there as a "look at gwyn's children, around the same size as him" thing

>>167700904
Yes exactly, and I'm kind of sick of it

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RNG on the rare weapons is making me like this game more than dark souls and i fucking love soulsborne

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>>167700723
Well what can you do as the god of death when there's a curse afflicting the world that causes things that should be dead to not die?

The guy had to deal with it somehow and I guess making a "cemetery" for hollows that wished they were dead and put them under a near-coma like sleep with the help of servants is the closest you can get.

>>167700723
>Went from running a retirement home for skeletons to running a retirement home for old hollows

>>167700723
Any old fool can go around getting people killed [hello Kaathe], Nito not only overseeing all matters of Death but also ensuring the safeguarding and well-being of said dead under his care was pretty nice.

In DS3 if I go to NG++ will the NG and NG+ rings also spawn in that cycle or do I have to make sure I've gotten all of the NG+ rings before I go to NG++?

>>167701867
>will the NG and NG+ rings also spawn in that cycle
This one. It's easiest to save all rings for NG++.

>>167701867
If you go to ng++ the rings from previous ng's will spawn just fine. I would focus on getting all the slabs per cycle instead.

>>167701186
And what game would that be? Weeb Souls?

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Not played 3 since around launch, are greatswords still weak but usable? Flamberge in particular if it matters.

>>167701987
>>167701994
Good to know, thanks.

>>167702281
GS are top tier now.

>>167702281
BASTARD SWORD BEST SWORD

>>167702281

They're quite good now. They've received nothing but buffs.

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>>167702408
>>167702410
>>167702424

Good to know, thanks.

>>167702281
Greatswords are buffed as fuck, they're everywhere now. Poise works as intended, which is to say you only need to worry about it when trying to outpoise big weapons.

First DLC is kinda meh, too short and second boss is blue smelter tier. Weapons are generally fantastic though, atmosphere is great, and the main boss is good stuff. Only two bosses.

Information on second DLC starts tomorrow.

>>167701265

aldritch is basically nito if he was evil.

Is Dark Souls III still full of hackers?

>>167702645
Do you play on PC?

>>167702281
The Flamberge is the only bleed weapon I don't feel dirty for using.

>>167702728
Yeah

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>>167682357
>tfw after formatting my computer I lost my DS3 save which had a shit-ton of stuff including a painstakingly farmed Darkmoon Blade
is there anything I can do (like contacting Bandai) or do I have to start from scratch

>>167702629
>if

Nito was actively trying to curse the world in Dark Souls 1, which is why you had to go kill him.

>>167702815
Then that's your answer.

>spamming parry is viable against brigand twinblades

>>167702835
Bandai is the publisher, not the producer. They can't do shit and don't care anyways.

Fromsoft is the producer, but they can't magically bring back information that was on your system but not on theirs. They also don't care anyways.

In all cases, your issue falls under "user error" (you formatted your PC without backing up the data, fuckwit), so they're neither obligated to assist you nor do they have the ability to in the first place.

>>167684847
DaS3 has two level up waifus technically.

>>167703048
and a husbando

>>167703007
yeah I thought as much
>you formatted your PC without backing up the data, fuckwit
hey, I hadn't played passive-reactive carthus curved souls 3 in many months so I only backed up the things that I deemed most important at the time

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>>167703115
>only lasts 5 levels
Typical male.

>>167702835
>not backing up his save
k e k
If you formatted your disc like a human bean and windows made a copy of old things you had on your main partition you can recover it otherwise you're fucked

>>167702851
>Nito was actively trying to curse the world in Dark Souls 1, which is why you had to go kill him
t. anon's pooper

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>tfw going to get banned when the patch releases tomorrow

>>167702835
you may be able to restore backups from the steam cloud