/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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MOMMY ROSARIA

The Fire in the Kiln of the First Flame is an illusion.

>>167717218
I thought this was a legit perk for the invaders instead of a bug

Does From doesnt like invasions and fun?

Nth for Gravelord is Bestlord.

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BEST MAN IN LOTHRIC

tfw I was probably the only person that used the boss invade glitch to invade other people as a sunbro.

It was fun while it lasted I guess. Dat self forced summon though.

Why isn't there someone hosting a FC?

Hurry up.

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RIP DaS co-op. we can never again be so grossly incandescent.

Help with this, please >>167715871

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>>167717350
>Mommy Rosaria will never sit on you

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>>167717367
What does this have to do with dark souls?

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Friendly reminder that the Kiln of the First Flame is just a tiny, tiny central structure in the middle of a gigantic brazier and that a healthy First Flame would be the size of a mountain.

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LOL FROM LITERALLY ONLY REMOVES FUN FROM THE GAME AND NEVER ACTUALLY BALANCES EVERYTHING

LOLOL RIP ANYTHING INTERESTING IN THIS DEAD GAME LOL

>>167717440

I WILL

if i get a bf

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xth for DeS has the best animations

>>167717553
Posted on the wrong thread

REMEMBER GUYS
ALWAYS LINK THE FLAME

SAY NO TO SERPENTS IN COVENANT WITH THE DEVIL

>>167717572

that's not a brazier anon

that's a fortress

>>167717657
And when the fire is too weak to be linked effectively, give it a mercy kill instead.
Better dead than Dark

>>167717367
>>167717553
is there a nose somewhere on that face?

>>167717657
>letting the world slowly rot and decay
>joining londor to be zombies forever
>not siding with the angels for a better future

Don't believe Frampt's lies, Age of Dark is best ending.

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From Soft just released this helmet for invaders in this new patch. What did you guys think?

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>>167716829
Soul determines race, yes. I don't know if Artorias would count as human: is having a Light soul corrupted by Darkness the same thing as having Humanity?

However, when you take in someone else's soul, I don't think it swims around in your body in addition to your own soul: I think you absorb it into your own. The Nameless King isn't part dragon after absorbing the King of the Storm's soul, for instance, its strength is taken entirely into his own.

And, it's weird. Race determines size, but race is determined by soul, but whatever soul people chose at the beginning of history seems to have been determined by their size. If you follow.

>>167717259
>>167717363
You're both right, but just to elaborate even further: you don't actually use the Lord Souls you obtain in the first game to link the Fire at all. Literally the only reason you get them is so
1. You can claim some sort of extraneous soul strength coming off of them/possessed by their owners to further fatten yourself up as kindling
2. You literally leave them in the Lordvessel so Gwyndolin can retrieve them later.

Had Dark Souls 2 not introduced the concept of reincarnation and Dark Souls 3 not stayed relatively quiet on the subject so as not to contradict or confirm DaS2 too hard, I imagine what we might have seen in a sequel is Gwyndolin claiming the Lord Souls for himself and becoming super god, or redistributing them to a new pantheon loyal to him.

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>>167717532
I want Rosaria to fart on my face until I'm inflicted with toxic

>>167717812
That's been in the game since release.

>>167717789
>>167717657

Don't trust the Serpents. Absorb the First Flame, take its power as your own and make the world what you want it to be. Destroy the cycle.

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>>167717853
I want her to crush my skull with her bare feet

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For those that are still struggling with them.

>>167717782
No, I commissioned them fron Scas

>>167717969
The nice thing about Rosario is that she can morph into any hot girl you want, as long as it's a flabby slug.

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>>167717948
FUCK THE FLAME
BECOME A SCALELESS DRAGON
FUCK BITCHES SO HARD THEY GROW TENTACLES

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>>167717812

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Post your webms friends.

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>>167717657
>>167717780
>>167717789
>>167717948
Her ending is the only proper ending

>>167717515
Please

How many hours until DLC spoilers?

>>167718005
>wasting bullets

Just dodge behind them on the first hit, visceral. another visceral.

>>167717789
Fuck you you motherfucker piece of shit. people like you that destroy the canon

What the fuck is wrong with you people, your destroyin civilization. im going to hate fuck your mom in her stupid horse looking face and she'll fucking love it. piece of shit

hit me up on steam with your shitty sl400 char you retard

>>167717841
Artorias has jelly mixed in with his peanut butter, of course he's part human. Darkness and Humanity are synonyms.

The Nameless King's soul can be used to create a weapon born from his Stormdrake's soul, so they don't just disappear.

>Race determines size, but race is determined by soul
>but whatever soul people chose at the beginning of history seems to have been determined by their size
I'm afraid I don't follow, for two reasons. One, all those hollows in the intro were the same size before getting souls, and two, Ornstein becomes a giant after absorbing a giant's soul.

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>>167718108
I hope so

>>167717841

It's not Gwyndolin handling the souls, it's The Primordial Serpents.

>>167718132
>replying to tripfags
It didn't turn out well last thread, won't turn out well here

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>>167717969
>When you hand in enough good boy tongues to Mommy Rosaria and shes lies on top of you with your face in her boobies long enough to make you pass out from a lack of oxygen

>>167717481
Can you still get summoned with some of the user made tools?

>>167717948
>Absorb the First Flame
Silly goyim, Londor is a front for Kaathe.

>>167718124
Assume 10AM Pacific time.

>>167718132
You know you have to land a fully charged R2 to be able to land the BS, right?

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>>167718098
did you know that rocks can taunt eldritch horrors with pebbles?

>>167718296
when GFWL was removed I'm pretty sure those mods were kill.

>>167718394
People can still invade from what I understand, so co-op must still be possible.

>>167718365

Yes. Dodge. Charge. Visceral. Charge. Visceral. You have enough time.

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>>167717841
>I imagine what we might have seen in a sequel is Gwyndolin claiming the Lord Souls for himself and becoming super god, or redistributing them to a new pantheon loyal to him.
YES
MAKE GWYNDOLIN THE NEW LORD
LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SNAKE LEG IS A PRIMORDIAL SERPENT.

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>>167718365
>lucy thinks its hard to backstab baggers
Why does this not surprise me? Oh yeah, because it's just lucy being lucy again.

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>>167717657

>>167718197

We don't know what Smough was, but souls definitely heavily influence morphology and powers. That said, absorbing Ornstein didn't make Smough smaller, and Artorias likely didn't get smaller from his corruption.

However, it's possible for souls to merge, this much is known. Just as all souls came from the first Soul, the First Flame, they can split further or recombined. However, its appearance will take on whatever soul was dominant.

>>167718513
Oh, it's just the meme shitter again. Ignored.

>>167718554
foken saved

>>167718559
Smough literally ground people's bones to make his bread
The name similarity with Gough is also a clue

>>167718657

I'll accept it.

>>167718701
Forgot to add, his armor is also said to be too large for a human, but yeah.

Weird that they wouldn't just outright state it, though.

I hope that the DLC has us fight whatever entity the First Flame was before it was laid bare.

>cold af outside
>don't want to turn up heating
>tfw no comfy way of playing Souls while lying in bed
I wish the rumours of Souls on the switch are true.

>>167718197
>Darkness and Humanity are synonyms.
Not necesarily. Humanity is fragments of the Dark Soul. The question is, are Lord Souls synonymous with the elements they represent, or do they merely grant power over an existing element? If a Lord Soul somehow stopped existing, would its element also stop existing? Remember that a lot of the power from Nito's soul had been given to death, implying that death existed independently from his soul. It's possible that there's just 'dark energy' or elemental dark which could have corrupted Artorias, not necesarily Humanity.

I'm not greatly opposed to the idea that Artorias *did* obtain Humanity though, I'm just kind of throwing shit out here.

>all those hollows in the intro were the same size before getting souls
You don't see every single Hollow in the world in that intro, anon. You see, what, four or five? And the Furtive Pygmy is alone. You don't see him next to any other Hollow, so you can't say that he was the same size as all the others.

There's exceptions to the rule in both humans and gods of course, but the rule is pretty consistent (in the first game, at least).

And we literally only see Ornstein do that. The player character never changes size. The Nameless King doesn't change in size. Elfriede doesn't change in size. Smough doesn't change in size. For all we know, that ability was entirely unique to Ornstein.

>>167718905
even if they were
>2 shoulder buttons.

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>>167717657
>one side wants me to suicide by setting myself on fire
>other wants me to just not set myself on fire and sort of hang out

>>167718943
>Humanity is fragments of the Dark Soul
retard

>>167718951
>bind one to R1
>bind one to L2

Easy.

>>167717201

DS3 Questions:

Can Int or Faith builds be viable?

Is there a reliable weapon tier list?

Is deprived best starting class?

>>167719021
>using a name and trip when nobody cares who you are, even online
retard

>>167718943

He wouldn't have been called the Furtive Pygmy if he wasn't specifically small as a character trait, so that should help your case.

Why the linking the fire ending in DS3 was so shitty?

>>167719189

Because that's the shitty ending.

>>167718943
>And we literally only see Ornstein do that. The player character never changes size. The Nameless King doesn't change in size. Elfriede doesn't change in size. Smough doesn't change in size. For all we know, that ability was entirely unique to Ornstein.
Important to remember that's not even a real person either, but just another of Gwyndolin's illusions. For all we know it's just Moon Magic shenanigans.

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>>167719189
Because it didn't work. Ash can't kindle the flame. They can only just burn a little bit and then die out.
Every ending ends the world.

>>167719189
The game literally does everything in its power to tell you that linking the fire by that point is a completely inviable solution that only the most desperate and short-sighted of people would still cling to.
Take a guess.

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I really liked that one anon's spear-wielding Valkyrie idea, but I lack the necessary penchant for Fashion Souls to pull it off.

Please help me /dsg/, I'm shit.

>>167719375
>>167719263
>>167719408
Well good thing I choose the Firekeeper ending then, looks rad as fuck

You know, I'm thinking that DS1, 2 and 3 aren't necessarily sequels, but are different timelines. Each game is just a potential "what if" scenario.

As an example, DS1 is if an Undead killed Ornstein and killed Gwyndolin.

DS2 is if an Undead didn't kill Ornstein, ages passed, and Ornstein was instead corrupted and Gwyndolin who knows?

DS3 is if the Undead didn't kill Ornstein, ages passed and he fucked off to go find Nameless and died there, and Gwyndolin wasn't killed early, but lived through the ages to the point where he was killed by Aldrich with the assistance of Sulyvahn.

Thoughts?

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>>167719471
Good man

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>>167719471
>he didn't choose the Scoobert Doobert ending

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm finding DaS 3 a lot harder than BB. Just can't seem to wrap my head around this combat style, I think the shield is throwing me off. I'm half adopting it, half forgetting it's there and just dodging everything the way I did in BB. It's so strange.

And who the hell was that lady who showed up only to tell me that we couldn't fraternize? Bitch left already and said something about the moon.

>>167716308
the abyss first got released in the oolacile incident, not created

>>167718943
>Remember that a lot of the power from Nito's soul had been given to death, implying that death existed independently from his soul
Alternatively, the act of necromancy could have required an expenditure of Nito's power to sustain the animated skeleton.

We know the Abyss is just a big mass of wild Humanity, but I seem to recall one line in Dark Souls 2 connecting darkness with capital-D Dark? At least, I don't remember any instance of Dark in the item descriptions or dialogues that aren't also referring to Humanity Dark.

>the Furtive Pygmy is alone
Wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't expect him to find darkness inside the Fire, after all. It's not like you can pull Humanity back out after putting it in.

>changing size
I hate to pull gameplay here, but anything the player character does prioritizes gameplay first. We never see any other undead or hollow revive at a bonfire, for instance. The Nameless King took a drake's soul, not a giant's. Elfriede didn't take anyone's soul, she just got back up because setting an ashen one on fire is like pouring water on a weed, and she has her blackflame if that fails. Smough already is a giant, even if he's a shrimpy one. Ornstein is the only on-screen case of someone taking a giant's soul. Vendrick is an implied case, but isn't shown doing it.

>>167719503
3 is a sequel to 1.
2 is not considered anything and is part of the series by name alone.

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Got be of bullshit down on 7th attempt, died mostly to pits opening up and the sweeping arm on the left was a bitch, till i tried baiting its middle sweep attack and then ran past, after that i missed the root in the middle floor a couple times haha.

>>167719449
I dont know, its impossible to get bad at Fashion Souls in DS3 since you can literally wear ANYTHING and still fast roll. Not only that, armor points literally mean fuck all, so its just a matter of trying everything you come across

>>167719061
>Can Int or Faith builds be viable?
yeah but it's best if you have a weapon(s) in mind that you want to build that int and faith around
Is there a reliable weapon tier list?
the reddit one ain't bad
Is deprived best starting class?
no. use mugenmonkey to make a build and switch the classes to see which ones save on distribution points.

>>167719503
>He hasn't played a From Soft game outside of Dark Souls

From Soft has never made sequels, all their games are just various tenuously-related scenarios and lore or settings, but never share characters, locations, or plot lines. Dark Souls 3 is the weird one by actually trying to 'tie in' to the first game by bringing characters back, probably because Bandai Namco forced them to harp on DS1 nostalgia.

Everyone trying to link the 3 games together is being laughed at by From Soft executives right now.

>>167719637
theres no point in using a shield in DS3 unlike DS1

>>167719061
>Can Int or Faith builds be viable?
For what, PvP? Int builds are pretty good in PvP if you use the good sorceries and Moonlight Greatsword / Greatsword of Judgement. Faith builds are iffy as fuck because they have no good pure Faith weapons and their spells are dodgey.

>Is there a reliable weapon tier list?
Greatswords, straight swords, and curved swords.

>Is deprived best starting class?
Hell no, not unless you're trying to stay at the lowest level possible. At PvP level ranges, it's the worst for everything except pure Luck.

>>167717515
the fastest way to farm ears is killing silver nights, the covenant is dead as shit

>>167719637
That's sirris. You can do quest stuff way later on.

>>167719449
Get a long skirt instead of leggings and it'll look gucci

>>167719809
Please tell me you're not trolling.

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>>167719449>>167719669>>167719883
too bad something like Selen's set from DeS isn't in DaS3.

>>167719664
holy shit are you me?

Just did it this afternoon and died probably seven times as well.

You probably arent tho, since I wouldnt be using those shitty graphical settings on this shitty weird resolution

>>167719061
deprived is really only used for SL1 runs.

>>167717841
IS THIS ACTUAL RATIONAL LORE DISCUSSION ON MY /dsg/

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>HERRO I HAVE IDEA
>WE MAKE BRUDBORN 2
>BUT
>RISTEN NOW
>WE MAKE THE PLAYERS AS CLUNKY AS THEY WERE IN DARK SOULS

>>167719931
Your roll is so op and the combat is so fast you might as well be rolling the entire game like even those shitty youtubers everywhere did

>>167719648
>released
>not created

It's like you don't even read item descriptions. I honestly don't want to spend the five minutes it'd take to pull up five different links where the game states Manus created the Abyss after being revived.

How about instead you go find the one line that says it was "released". Because you can't, because it doesn't exist.

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>>167719932
it was pretty kawaii. binded set was better though.

>>167719503
As a general rule of thumb, adding divergent timelines and alternate dimensions that exist simultaneously with one another without a clear, definite reason for their existence more often than not weaken the integrity of the setting and story without contributing much in return.

There aren't THAT many divergences and absolutely unexplainable contradictions between the stories of the three games. And a handful of those can be brushed away as being the result of easter eggs or necessary videogame logic. Most that are treated as such are the result of people taking things that are not clearly spelled out and just the result of a simple chain of thought and labeling it as YouTube-tier fanwanking.

See, for example, the Illusory Ornstein thing.

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Gael appears and offers you a picture of Kriemhild's ass. Do you touch it?

>>167719960
>shitty graphical settings
>dark souls
>gfx settings

good one

>>167720173
>do you touch the ass of a woman who dug through corpses for her clothes

Hell no, that's disgusting.

>>167720127
>clear, definite reason for their existence more often than not weaken the integrity of the setting and story without contributing much in return.

I agree, but timetravel already trivializes it and there's an endless amount of that in Dark Souls.

>>167719932
>>167720114
Holy shit I forgot how much I fucking hated Selen. My blood boiled so hard when I clicked pic.

Fuck her to death.

>>167719771
>From Soft has never made sequels
Armored Core was revealed to have one coherent timeline some time ago, anon.

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>>167720197
are you serious mane

>>167719771
I'm fairy sure that's not true when it comes to King's Field.

>>167720212
Can't fault her for the pursuit of good fashion

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>>167719883
>get a long skirt instead of leggings and it'll look gucci

Thanks bro, never would've though to pair a skirt with the Sunless top.

We got spoilers on the second DLC yet? I ain't buying that season pass until I see some gameplay.

>>167720309
I was like "daaamn what did she do to you!?" then I remembered trying to kill her or her phantom form is tougher than Old King Doran.

>>167718493
>LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SNAKE LEG IS A PRIMORDIAL SERPENT.

take one more leap for the truth

serpents are appendages of the furtive pygmy

>>167720458
I hate her on her dialogue alone, but yeah, her BP didn't help my opinion of her.

>>167720091
I can't, but I can't find any that say he created it either, they all talk about how he's the Father of the Abyss, the Abyss was the source of the dark soul and humanity and was always lurking there on the fringes of reality, Manus opened the door and by doing that he created the outbreak and is the figurative father.

>>167719061
>Can Int or Faith builds be viable?
any build can be viable if you stretch the word out as much as the average dsg poster
http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1486522184900.jpg
>Is there a reliable weapon tier list?
you don't need one
washingpole is the best all-around twohanded weapon
a stable midshield like the BKS gives it a bad matchup, and works well with straightswords
carthus curved sword is good for killing shield turtles and is best twohanded
crossbows alongside anything with a quick R1 can shut down trade baiters, but can get fucked by shields

>Is deprived best starting class?
>Is _______ best starting class?
the answer to this question is always no

>>167720347
Who's the qt?

>>167720446
12 hours from now, and that's still a month before the DLC is even available. Calm your tits, millennial.

from wfg
wasnt it dsg that had a shitty tripfag that went by god-king lucifer? anyone have that video?

>tfw having fun doing all kinds of meme shit with cheat engine in ds1
>not even doing multiplayer shenanigans just fucking around with stats n shit
>want to do it in ds3 but dont want to get fugged by anticheat
suffering

>>167720489

>serpents are appendages of the furtive pygmy

Oh, shit. It makes so much sense that the Primordial Serpents would be working for the Pygmy.

>>167720586
>had
>past tense
I wish that were true

>>167720568
Jay Leno

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>>167720197
Turn on your shit faggit

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>>167720489
>serpents are appendages of the furtive pygmy

>>167720585
Really, really bad read, anon.

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>>167720638
oh i am sorry

>>167720586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN1PIelq8MI
this one?

>>167720568
dont remember

its probably that /pol/tard that loves hitler

>>167720626
Backup savedata, go offline, start a new character, disable autosave, do whatever fucking around you want, delete character when finished to be extra safe, restore savedata

>>167719061

Are weapon infusions ever doable? Could I go, Int, for instance, and infuse/buff a single str/dex stat and still make out okay?

Sorry for the questions, I feel like DS3 seems to favor just big fuckhuge weapons more both in PVE and PVP than past editions and it's not really my jam -- would like to be viable with more than 1 weapon per build too.

>>167718951

What? it has 4

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>>167720742
yup, thank

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>>167720441
Try Fire Witch leggings

>>167720912
>yfw it's just two short range mace weapons paired together with nothing but a shitty cloth connecting them

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What are your favourite armour sets in the games? These are mine.

>>167720543
>http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1486522184900.jpg
whoops

So how many separate apocalypses are going on by the end of DaS3? The abyss outbreak is everywhere, the undead plague has destroyed all human civilization and of course the dying of the flame ending reality as we know it. What am I forgetting?

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>tfw anastasia and gwyndolin will never eat your asshole

>>167721018
such a shame paladin is so missable.

>>167720912
>>167721012
wrong thread, ops

I'd be fun, tho

A FUCKING BEYBLADE?

WHAT THE FUCK

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>>167721045
What about this?

>>167720498
Here, let me help you out.

>the Abyss was the source of the dark soul and humanity

This is the part you made up. The entire rest of your theory starts here. By maintaining this assumption, you are training yourself to see everything else as "evidence" for the notion you already formed ahead of time.

Saying "I can't find evidence against it" does not prove a theory. You have to find evidence for it. The term for a theory without evidence is baseless speculation. When there is nothing that supports the idea that Manus did not create the Abyss, that means there is no reason to suspect his title "Father of the Abyss" is meant figuratively.

Also, the two Bloated Head items say "The head of an Oolacile resident whose humanity went wild after being devoured by the Dark of Manus, Father of the Abyss." This directly links the Abyss to Manus. There may also be dialogue from Chester, Gough, Elizabeth, or Dusk that I'm forgetting, but it's too late at night to go that far.

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>>167721094
>winged knight twinaxes

LET IT RIP

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>>167721139
lewd as fuck senpai

>decide to dust off my old Faith build save
>104 in NG++
>normal enemies rape me to death in two hits

Fuck

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>>167718493
>All that porn of Gwyndolin except all the snakes have Kaathe and Frampt faces
oh no

>>167721282
I NEED TO SEE THEM COMMIT A CRIME

>>167720742
>being on 4chan that year
old people

>>167721030

Pilgrim Butterflies doing whatever eldritch shit they do. Angels are doing whatever the fuck they do. Primordial Serpents doing who knows what. Aldia is a big question mark. And entire city on the edge of the world doing who knows what.

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>>167721282
I'M GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME

>>167721018
Brass Set from DSI
Drakeblood Set from DSII
DSIII, Fallen Meme Set

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>making regen build in DS1
>Leeroy falls off the cliffside, so I can't get Sanctus
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>167718005
couldn't i just as easily cheese them using a wheel or kirkhammer?

>>167721018
>DeS
Fluted
>DaS
Black Knight
>DaS2
Aalva
>DaS3
Dancer
>BB
Foreigner

>>167721030
The Demons had their own separate apocalypse while the rest of the world was going to hell up above, but you literally arrive to late to do anything but kill the last two survivors.

>>167721561
I used the meme set too when I first found it. It's one of the first real full armour sets you find and looks alright. Looks better without all the cloth. I've seen it used so much I find it ugly with the cloth.

>>167721635
regen builds are shit in every game except DeS anyway

>>167721561
>Favorite DS2 set is Drakeblood
>Favorite DS3 set is Drakeblood covered in rags

Interesting.

>>167721030
Abyss outbreaks fucking everywhere.
Undead Curse destroying civilisation for the billionth time.
Reality breaking down as the Fire fades.
Aldrich attempting to usher in an Age of the Deep.
The Profaned Flame never goes out and so could, theoretically, fuck over the rest of the world.
Londor attempting to create a First Flame powered Lord of Hollows.
Angels doing whatever the fuck.

>>167721735
I made a regen build in DS1 and it was good.

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>>167718005
is this really what kids play nowadays or was the webm slowed down?

>>167721665
The strategy in the video is universal and works with every weapon setup. I never really saw the point in weapon specific strategies since they are useless to you if you are using anything else.

>>167721720
Honestly it wins by default for me since none of the original armor sets in III particularly stick in my mind. But maybe I'm forgetting one of them.
I wouldn't use it on a normal melee fighter though. Fallen Meme was reserved for my pyromancer character.

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>>167721282

THERE IS INTENT ON MY PART TO PROCEED WITH AN ACT THAT GOES AGAINST THE CURRENT ESTABLISHED LAW OF THE LAND

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>>167720658
?

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>Cathedral Knight chest sleeves

WHO OKAY'D THIS

>>167721635
also I am pretty sure you can reload your save and his items will be where his body was.

>>167721845
They are the big slow tanky enemies unless you let them activate Kaioken x 10,which boosts their speed like crazy.

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I HAVE DIED SO MANY TIIIMES BUT IM STILL ALIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEEEE

IIII AM STILLLL AAAALIIIIIVEEEEEEEE

>>167721462
Foreigner here, is it still a crime if they both are underage?

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Do you ever think about how horribly gross and uncomfortable it would be to walk through most of the environments in these games with bare feet?

>>167722001
No. I tried out of desperation and his shit was gone.

>>167719846
Alright, thanks.

>>167721226
"the Dark of Manus, Father of the Abyss" could be the outbreak caused by Manus and not the thing itself.
I'm starting from an assumption and working from there, but so are you, assuming that Manus outright created the abyss. What does that make Kaathe and his plan then? Are you one of those Manus is the furtive pygmy memers?

Everything we've seen to do with the abyss and humanity clearly show they're deeply intrinsically linked but only what has to do with Manus directly gives the impression that Humanity caused the Abyss instead of the other way around, and from Kaathe's actions and ending and Darklink it seems more like the Abyss is a physical place or plane of reality than a thing happening to the rest of the world, there's equally shaky evidence for any theory outside of the facts that Manus caused a thing called the Abyss that has something to do with Humanity to cause a shitload of problems thoughout the series so sorry that I can't provide ironclad proofs to disprove your headcanon.

>>167722054

I suppose it's not.

>>167721018
Cainhurst Knight

>>167722054
Depends on the state, but neither of them are boys so the chance of one of them getting slammed with statutory rape charges is basically zero.

What happens to the Firekeeper in the Usurption ending?

Haven't played ds2 in forever. Any recommendations on a fun ng playthrough?

Just did
>Miracles only DS3
>Sorcery only DS3
>Thief DS1

Someone wanna help me at Oceiros on PC? SL40+4 - pass: dsg

>>167721905
Fair enough. To me it's more about what armour set I think looks the nicest than what's more practical.

I'm not sure what sets really stick in my mind from DS3 alone. Eygon's looked cool but it's so damn heavy.

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>>167721018
DaS1 - Starter knight and Elite Knight
DaS2 - Probably Drakeblood
DaS3 - Hard to say, really fucking loved the selection of armours in this one.
>Starter knight
>Lothric knight
>Vilhelm's
>Cathedral knight

As you can tell I just really fucking love knightly sets. I love the Dark Souls armours that are more 'realistic' - of course they're still stylised, but they're not nearly as outrageous as some of the armour in fantasy games.

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>>167722163

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>>167721984
Are you using dsfix, negro?

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>>167722205
ROBFLYNN Str build with craftsman hammer, estoc, and engraved gauntlets

>>167722152

It's specifically stated the Abyss originated from Manus. The Dark and the Abyss are two different things. Dark is the actual power source. The Abyss uses the Dark power source to create a corrupted area. Consider it a Spell that Manus cast that has been fucking the world for a while now.

>>167722205
Try playing DS2 but everytime you die you go play a better game

>>167720585
there isn't a single fucking non-millenial that browses this fucking general

reminder that if you were born >86, you too are a millennial

>>167722198
Probably threw herself off a cliff when she realized what you did to her fire.

>>167722260
The Knightly style is what I always found comfy about the series. Even some of the fancier ones tend not to get too anime.

>>167722269
Go lick Logarius's asshole and kill yourself.

>>167721018
The default knight set in all games. I'm lame. Haven't played ds2.

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>>167721282
>>167722175
>neither of them are boys
>traps this cute will never exist irl
>you will never be a shota trap this cute irl
I'm ready to die lads

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Poor Sieglinde

>>167722205
PUGS + GS

It's easymode as hell but smacking nerds with a UGS never gets old so it's fine.

>>167722380

Then I'm not a millenial.

>>167722380
there is no age range for those meme age groups

some claim millennial starts in the mid 70's.

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>>167721462
>>167721559
>>167721912
>>167722054
get out of this thread

>>167722387
>want to be lord of hollows
>but firekeeper a qt

>>167722205
Spoon Build
Dual Greatshield Build

>>167722329
man this game is ugly as fuck. I keep forgetting.

>>167722336
Don't worry. Just went into the character creator
No chest slider.
Literally unplayable.

>>167722380
>30 year long generation

wew.

>>167722405
>the lovely clanking of armor along with your steps in DSI
Is it just me or did DSIII change/remove that sound effect? I can't recall it at all being in there, or maybe it's just been a while since I played the game.

>>167722481

Why do you have this saved on your computer?

>>167722437
I like the Elite set more, but the default one is alright.

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>>167722294
Yea, and a HD texture mod.

>>167722548
I don't understand how they thought it was acceptable to push it out the door with half a lighting engine, every indoor area is lit with the neon omnipresent glow of a ps1 game.

>>167722573
>Average age from birth to 'adulthood'
What a fucking surprise?

>>167722583
Some armour sets have the sound for certain movement. You can notice it when you move to cloth or nude.

Bare foot walking is also different than armoured foot walking I think.

>>167722481
keep going

>>167722152
>could be the outbreak caused by Manus and not the thing itself
Assuming Manus did not create the Abyss with his wild Humanity.

Manus creating the Abyss is not an assumption when his literal title is "Father of the Abyss". You'd have to first find evidence that his title is not literal. Evidence which doesn't exist.

I specifically recall one line, somewhere, that says Manus created it. I am too fucking tired to bother looking and won't be awake long enough to find it in the first place, so that hardly matters for this argument, but whatever. What does matter is you're starting at "Manus didn't do the thing he's named for" but nothing lead you to that point. Meanwhile, "his actual title implies he created it" is a starting point for the idea that he created it. One of these is implied by the game, the other has nothing in the game implying it.

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>>167722223
I'll give you cookies!(embers/souls)

>>167722437
DS2's default knight set is the worst of the three games.

Now that I think about linking the fire in DaS3 feels depressing as fuck. That sitting as the fire slowly consumes you knowing that the flame is dying regardless. Shits depressing yo.

>>167722470
>millennial
>not starting at the turn of the century

What am I reading, exactly? Did I accidentally imply something with a meme too young for me to understand?

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>>167722625
I'm using dsfix only.
You need to turn on occlusion and shit

>>167722671
5 year olds and 30 year olds probably shouldn't be in a peer group together.

>>167722853
Oh, thanks i just found the settings in the ini.

>>167722589
she's my great-granddaughter buddy

>>167722706
kill yourself

So has Marcus released any new info about his crazy Jap wife and getting his daughter back?

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>>167722820
Do it for her

>>167722989
I don't believe Marcus took up necromancy recently, no.

>>167722986

>she's my great-granddaughter buddy

I'll bet, pedo.

>>167723050
Yaharhar

>>167722986
spotted the hypocrite

>>167722710
I'm starting at "the thing manus is named for is more nuanced than it seems and not as its directly stated/the first assumption" because that's not how things work in the souls series, and with that the other things we know about the abyss line up with what I'm proposing.

I'm not saying Manus is just a guy who was there when the Abyss popped off, but that it's a thing that already existed that he caused to become a problem a classic tale of a sorcerer inflated by hubris meddling with things more powerful than he should have, the references to it in in game and especially as they related to manus all refer to him as the source of the problem but there is no explicit statement that he created the abyss except the one neither of us can remember but you claim exists.

>>167722331
Synonyms, if that's the problem here than I'm fine just saying I'm the one being a dumbass and using the wrong words. "The Abyss" as it appears in game and the plague that Manus set loose are The Dark existing alongside the rest of the world, just a manifestation of something that was already there.

>>167722973
i told you nigger

>>167723268

Dark exists at the boundaries of light, but is not the Abyss.

The Abyss is unnatural, a manufactured area using Dark as the base. It's a spell that corrupts shit. The Dark on its own is normally serene, and when the Fire fades it's not the Abyss taking over, but the Dark that's always there, which is a result of the Fire itself. Fire brought Light and Dark.

>>167721018
Assasin set with a mish mash of the dancer set in DaS 3
Thief set DaS 1
In DaS 2 i got fed up with the armor and all that and decided to play only with female characters and use only skirts and the desert sorceress set.
In DeS the females fluted armor with no helmet, just because armor it's not that useful.

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After playing a lot of Let It Die, I really wish the Butcher's Knife in DS3 had a similar kind of heft as something like a greataxe, instead of just being a shitty straight sword

>>167721018
DaS1: Ciaran's set
DaS2: Between Shadow and Fume Sorcerer
DaS3: Probably Dancer

>>167723268
>the thing manus is named for is more nuanced than it seems and not as its directly stated/the first assumption
As I said, you're starting with the assumption that his title is not literal. There is zero evidence in the game to support your assumption. Nothing else you say about anything can matter until this matter right here is dealt with. Any theory can follow the rules of logic perfectly and still be wrong if it started at a flawed assumption.

Fix your assumption. Then we'll talk.

>>167721018
DaS1: Elite Knight Set
DaS2: Elite Knight Set
DaS3: Elite Knight Set, but sometimes Leonhard's Set when I'm feeling a little edgy

>(Anor) Lono
>Londor
>Lothric
>Loran
What's up with From's naming sense. Are they all related?

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>>167721018
>DS1
Darkwraith set for maxiumum spooky. There's just something super cool about a quiet skeleton knights with heavy swords designed to use it's weight centrifuged into concentrated power. It reminded me of Piquaquan martial arts, arm whipping savagery that has a hint of grace.
>DS2
Tied between Alva and Faraam mainly for how niche and unique they are. Alva's set is trimmed armor which sacrifices protection for weight which makes sense for a traveling knight. Faraam is the lightest heavy armor that's fitting for warriors known for fast swordplay using heavy weapons. Their lore is cool as hell too.
>DS3
Nameless King's set fits Gwyn's Firstborn so perfectly that if you didn't know what he looked like and saw this set, it would be clear enough to tell it was his.

>>167723268

Dark is a shadow, an imitation of the object casting it.

See: All the Dark spells in DS3. Fire needs a Flame, Miracles (Light/Lightning) need a Talisman, Magic needs a catalyst, but Dark replicates them all.

>>167722973
dont tell me you played the entire game on a PC up to Bed of Chaos in 30fps

>>167723268
>"The Abyss" as it appears in game and the plague that Manus set loose are The Dark existing alongside the rest of the world
No sir, I figured this was just you thinking Dark and Abyss were synonyms.

The Abyss is Dark, yes. Many, many things are Dark, not just the Abyss. Dark is the term that encompasses all of them. Dark was there since the First Flame appeared, and maybe even before. Dark was there when the Abyss first appeared in Oolacile. Dark will be there after when the Abyss dies, and it'll be around when the First Flame dies.

Seriously, just the fact that the Deep exists and is still Dark should clue you in, here.

fc

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>>167723291
Better? I changed it to the highest.

>>167723713
Helps establish the "endless cycles of ancient ruined civilizations built on top of eachother" motif, even if they're not related to eachother it gives a sense of names and places becoming lost and warped over millenia.

>>167723850
godammit DaS1 looks gorgeous

Yeah looks more polished. I'm running on the default brightness and every setting maxed out

Whats your setup

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pls no

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>>167724004
>beach episode
Why is Dark Souls so anime?

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pc fc?

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>>167724004
>>167724048
This brings a whole new meaning to "crying because of onions"

>>167723812
>>167724113

Farron Bridge

Pass: dsg

>>167717426
Loved seeing people get all confused

Had a ton of people BC me out because they couldn't figure out that them not being able to hit me and me not being able to hit them meant I was friendly though

Plus there's always CE to manually change your phantom type if you still want forced invasions :^)

>>167724004
You actually got that ending, congrats. It's one of the more annoying ones to get, since the constraints are all so specific.

Only one more Lord Soul left, and it's in one of the more interesting areas of the game.

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>>167723850
>>167724004
I'd post mine Ash Lake too but i didnt got there in NG+ yet

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>>167723950
old oc'd i5 and 1050 ti, more than enough to run it I just didnt realise there were gfx settings in there, I kinda skimmed it to find tex override lol.

>i feel bad for taking this right now

>>167724129
i will invade you carlos

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>>167721045
>>167721282
>>167722481
>>167722986
>/r9k/fag procreating and with grandkids

A common criticism of souls is that the story is just you wandering around and killing whatever you see for no apparent reason, if you dig into the lore there's more going on for a lot of it.

But what's the deal with Kalameet? Is he actually doing anything other than being a dragon and Gough just really likes to kill dragons?

>>167724292
you don't even need to dig, you just have to not skip npc dialog like a retard

met a guy through the game who thought he could complete it then go back and do npc quests.

>>167724260
More likely he just has pictures of little girls saved on his computer and is trying to bait pedos.

>>167724247
Nice

Running >>167724243 on a GTX1070 and i7 6700 but Demon Ruins lava always lags me to ~40-50fps anyway

Dont forget to unlock your fps to 60 in dsfix.ini if your pc can do it

>>167724292
It's implied that before the whole end-of-the-world thing that dragons were a bit of a problem, hence why knights slayed dragons. It's not just some sport.

>>167724195
Yeah i thought i messed it up when i missed him the second time at sens fortress. I was pretty happy when i found him in anor londo.

>>167724292
>But what's the deal with Kalameet?
Kalameet, Black Dragon of Calamity. Breathes Abyssal fire, has a telekinetic eye that fucks your shit up.

He's an ancient dragon, and one of the strongest. He was so powerful that the Lords, even after killing all the other dragons, left him well the fuck alone.

That's pretty much the extent of his lore. He's recycled in Dark Souls 2 to explain where all the dragon covenant equipment came from, and he's possibly alluded to in 3 though that's a bit more sketchy.

I joined the dark moon. Where can I hunt for the guilty. Not getting any successful invasions.

>>167724361
It is kind of bad with people like Queelag where if you only know what the game gives you up to that point that you're looking for a bell down there somewhere? And then monmuso attacks you, it's not till later on that you find out who Queelag is or what the deal is with that area.

>>167724440
Well yeah, the dragons as Gwyn's enemies and blanket kind of assholes is well established, but does Kalameet specifically do anything of significance other than fight you and exist as a dragon?

>>167724595
You know what they say

"if you cant beat them, join'em"

Enlist to Darkwraith/Forest Hunters now

>>167724595
Every 2-5 minutes you have to re-equip the covenant item because the matchmaking for that stuff is all busted.

And it will never be fixed

>>167724595
>dark moon
I have some bad news.

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>>167724425
I heard unlocking the fps can make you fall through the floor?

I don't know if this game is linear and I just went ahead accidentally or if there actually are choices but I'm at a crossroads. Cathedral or Catacombs? I just beat Abyss Watchers which was a fun fight but I thought it'd end there. Does the game kinda branch off or does one have a dead end and force me to backtrack to that shit swamp before resuming the other?

>>167724292
I think it's only implied by the dialogue, but as Oolacile being of the fartest points in history, Kalameet was corrupted by the abyss, with black flames and the calamity around him. Gough says that even Anor Londo wouldn't mess with him, with the other implication that as not that long ago Anor Londo hunted a lot of dragons, but not afflicted by the abyss, because was spooky, and seemed being concentrated only in Oolacile.

>>167724698
Not really. He's more there to give you some interaction with Gough.

>>167724751
There's only 1 ladder in the game where that will happen if you slide down it.

>>167724751
only on like two specific ladders if you slide down them, and they're not so long you can't just jump once you know.

>>167724751
Only on a few ladders when you slide

I dont remember it happening to me in any ladder other than that ladder between the rats and the hellkite dragon

>>167724292
Dragons used to be the dominant species in the unformed reality that predated the Age of Fire, when the Lords killed them all.

Whatever draconic beings still that remain [with one or two exceptions] are distant, hyper-aggressive, extremely destructive, and yet much, MUCH weaker and deformed descendants of the originals.

Except Kalameet himself is probably way, WAY older than all the deformed spawn, much more powerful, and maybe being one of the last pure breeds of Everlasting Dragons, except missing its stone scales [which give dragons immortality].

The reason to fight it is that you're basically doing pest control, except the pest can level countries.

>>167724361
>met a guy through the game who thought he could complete it then go back and do npc quests.
Well he's technically not wrong when it comes to the first game.

>>167724292
Before the Flame there were Archtrees and Stone dragons and that was it, the trees didn't do anything but the dragons were right cunts.

So the when the Lords go their souls they went and genocided them because they're rocky cunts, and Seath became the equivalent of a school shooter because the other dragons made fun of him for not having scales or legs.

>>167721018
>DaS
Steel Set or Paladin Set for PvE or ragged set for PvP
>DaS II
Forlorn Set
>DaS III
Dark Set

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>>167724129

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join the fc at farron bridge
i am feeling lonely

Are the stories of 1, 2, and 3 related in any way? Do they tie in to DeS?

>>167724879
I've only played the first game, does the Stone Archdragon in ash lake ever come up again? Wouldn't that make it the most powerful living thing in the series? If not the most important since it seems content to just hang out down there thinking about the colour grey.

>>167725084
>any way
Well in any way, yes

>>167725084
Please tell me you're baiting.

>>167725084
the story is whatever you want it to be, baby.

>>167725084
The four main bosses in 2 are reincarnations of the original Lords, and in 3 you literally go to locations from 1.

3 sort of references 2 with a set of armor and some weapons but thats it.

>>167718090
just fuck my love interest up senpai

>>167725072
Coming. Probably not welcomed through.

>>167724703
Near end game and placed vessel or I can't join Darkwraith. Is that really the only good option?

>>167725084
Demons is a whole thing appart, with thinly veiled correlations, Patches.

In the case of souls the second part seems for some reason completely detached from the first and the sencod. Some people belive that the whole thing with the story of the games is the introduction of the scholar as a way to scape the cycle and somehow a cure for hollowing, not being undead.

I just beat DS1. Why were their zombies everywhere? Such an over used concept, makes no sense.

>>167725380
you could plop down red or dragon signs and hope people want duels? or maybe go gravelording if you havn't killed nito and you're near ng+ levels

>>167725084
DeS is a completely separate continuity from the first Dark Souls, except the latter tries as hard as possible to steal as many concepts and NPCs from DeS as possible without being sued into oblivion by Sony.

Dark Souls 2 is schizophrenic and constantly alternates between "Are we a side story, or are we a direct sequel? You will never know, because neither do we".

Dark Souls 3 is a direct sequel to I, canonically takes place after 2, but doesn't draw from the events of the second game too much, if at all.

>>167725140
Not to my knowledge, no. And yes, the Stone Dragon is arguably the last truly immortal Everlasting Dragon left, despite a bit of contradiction with its tail weapon that points to it as a descendant rather than a pure breed. Since it's completely passive though, we have no way of knowing what its level of power is like.

>>167725554
I know right, and if those guys also have estus flasks, why can i pick them up and use them myself? I could have like a million of those things.

In DaS3 is there a way to bind kick/jump attack to one button?

WHAT DID YA THINK ABOUT MY THICC WAIFU BOIIIS

>>167725380
you need to give the vessel to the Darkwraith serpent, right after beating 4 Kangz, not to Frampt. Only on NG+ now

If we have a mirror catalyst, will we see the set return?

>>167725678
You could but the flask itself is useless unless its filled with estus, and the bonfire is just gonna give you the same amount of estus

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>>167725712
I don't see any waifu

>>167725712
I see no thicc waifu

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>>167725712
>>167725804
>>167725821
forgot pic familias

>>167725712
If you're a madman you can kill the kangz, join the darkwraiths, buy 99 red eye orbs and then give the lordvessel to frampt too

>>167725870
and the thicc?

>>167725293

I'm wondering by how much it scales down.

>>167725870
Doesn't look that thicc, desu.

>>167725754
Jokes aside, I've always wondered what the physical origin and structure of estus is. Do you take regular water and like "bless" it in the bonfire, or is it like, something an undead can produce with his body and piss into a flask for later use.

We'll never know.

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>>167725870
Shameful display

>>167725870
>thicc

I don't think you know what thicc is

>>167725926
>>167725959
>>167725975
>>167725992
you people have no taste

she doesnt have to be a whale

>>167725870
Not that thicc
>that fashion
>CCS
>dmb quality
>havel's on a no HA weapon
Shit taste

Can someone help me with Oceiros, the Consumed King?

>>167725961
I like to think of it as sort of nectar that's just constantly flowing off of the bonfire into flasks, kindling makes it seep out faster and with 4 humanity its practically gushing out all over the place

>>167725380
Also carry some homeward bones, talk to Frampt, he'll take you do the lord vessel room, don't place it, instead home-bone out, talk to Frampt again, feed him all the extra weapons and shit you don't want or need, then go to Kaathe and join him.

>>167725712
>>167725564
I dont really plan on doing the ng+ thing. Would rather move to das3 since theres probably more people playing

>>167725961
Warm bone juice mixed with ash. I guess it might have a bloody taste, and being yellow down't help.

>>167725678
>>167725754
don't you sometimes get refills on kills?

>>167725870
>thicc
>most mass on forearms
The lighter body parts are the least weight efficient. When you see people minmaxing for poise or abs, havel's gauntlets are always the last piece of havel's they add on. Forearms usually have the worst ratios, chestplates usually have the best.

24 end is kinda low but at least you've got chloranthy and favor I guess

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>>167725870
On the subject, is there any way of taking body sliders beyond their ingame max? In addition, would doing so get you banned?

>>167726186
You don't need to ng+ to gravelord, just you can only infect people in ng+ so you have to be at their level range, which is just endgame level range.

>>167726270
Nah, you sometimes get an extra when someone else playing kindles a nearby bonfire.

>>167726081
just need someone i can summon to help me beat the boss

>>167726270
In DaS at least you occasionally get free humanity from kills, and when the bonfire you last rested at is kindled you get a free estus.

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I'll show you real thicc

>>167726045
You think you can take me and my hanzo steel darkmoon blade by yourself kid? Haha please no, dont kid yourself. I am a master and commander. I am a gentleman and a scholar, you wouldnt know what hit you. 1v1 me and you will see that I am a natural born genius with an IQ so high that my testers couldn't even begin to fathom it. Go ahead, make my day, son. You are just another Sunlight Medal to me... ha ha....

>>167726270
I was trying some fashion and forgot to take off the gauntlets.

>>167726286
probably but I dont know

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>small meme fc
I just wanted to try out greatsword.