/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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When

2nd for assblasted spitniggers

>>167641506
>>Place to actually discuss the game


I don't like this meme

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>Yak

>3

>P

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>>167640741

le soon™

>>167641920
I can't wait

>>167641814
is it even that good?

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>>167641557
lol whatever

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>>167642203
>unironically playing jets

>>167642269
Not him but playing jets is the only place I feel comfortable because the spitshitters can't club me desu

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>>167641920
>New gaming nations
Is it time?

>>167642546
inb4 its some dumb player faction bullshit

Will Gaijin ever make another RB air map? Sicily is boring.

>>167642658

Fucking J7W1s are making every game between 5.0 and 7.0 unplayable.

>>167642868
I think you mean spitfires. J7W does the game a service by deleting shitters.

>>167642203
>none spaded
So you don't actually play planes?

>people have trouble killing things with APDS
I'll just keep deleting tiger IIs in my Centurion mk3, then.

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when?

>>167643890
looks like a t-62 at a very high FoV

>>167643930
looks like your moms gaping possy

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i really like this tank. shame the teams are such subhumans

>>167644584
>weebs and krauts on one team

what did you expect?

>>167644658
80% winrate so far desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esy-l-Nesdg

>this is the average warblunder player

just more confirmation that i need to push and block people

>finally quit bore blunder
>have avoided this general for weeks now
>see it again in my catalog which automatically searches for "simg"

come on lads
sort your lives out

>>167641506
Reminder the only biased faction for ground forces in this game is the Germans. This is from someone who has all the tanks like a good goy.

what's the difference between the P-63A-10 and C-5?

>>167645517
Never actually understood the russian bias, i always thought the germans were op

>>167639062
>>167642203
I don't know how you got top tier tanks despite having level ~30 crew. With that much grinding they should definitely be higher level.

>fly hurricane mk iib
>dive on a he 112
>miss my shots
>try pulling up
>ping twitches my plane to roll to the side
>sends me into a spiral pulling 10 gs
>can't recover
>finally recover after blacking out 2km below from where I started
>lost both speed and altitude hurricane style
>he 112 a-0 dives on me and vaporizes me
fuck this game's fucking autistic spaghetti monkey netcode

>>167648661
CYKA

>>167642335
Same with tiger 2 and something with 300mm+ pen heat-fs.

>>167649151
>WAAAHHH WAAAHHHH WHY CAN I FACE A TANK THAT CAN PEN Me
>WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY CANT I CLUB WITH MY NAZIBOO BUNKER AND RAILGUN

>>167641601
I honestly don't think ever. It's not like adding a paper tank like the KV-4 or E-75. Planes have alot more performance statistics that you can't get without flying it.

>>167650002
as far as I understand it has as much flight data as the 229

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>HEAT hits some random wooden spike and disinegrates
)))))))))))))))

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>>167612426
>mfw ultraslav settings
>mfw using ESP and aimbot
>mfw playing russian bias premiums
>mfw 15/0 K/D minimum and like 100k lions every game

Ok what is this Soundwhoring meme

>>167650374
At least the Ho-229 "flew". As far as I know the Ta-183 never flew.

>>167649907
No other way around I prefer everyone can pen everyone everywhere over one side has to aim and the other has a point and click adventure.

>>167650661
see
>>167610978

>>167650661
boris soundmod, while sounding a whole lot better than vanilla, also gives you an acoustic wallhack as i would call it. i can always tell where enemies are on citymaps.

>tfw been too scared to do the decal size bypass since gaijin stepped up their game against """hacking"""

>>167651676
Nothing will happen. Gaijin even checks each hacker personally to make sure they're hacking before banning them.

Unless you're abusing decals as camo I can't see why they would ban you.

>play 7.3 T32
>constant uptier
>play 7.3 IS3
>constant downtier

really heated up my oven

>teamkilled by "slav_CCCP1917" because he shoots at every tank that is not russian

gas them all

>>167653327
looks like its from fucking alien. jesus

>>167652249
what makes you so sure? it's a value attached to your account on their servers. older ones are no doubt safe, but they could easily start monitoring at any point.

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>>167653327
That's a big dick, anon

>>167654184
for you

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WHEN

>boom and zoom

more like wasting time everyones time and running away like a pussy

>>167655916
Spoken like true spitnigger

>>167655953
>implying you can boom and zoom a spacefighter

>>167655953
how about grow a spin and stand and fight you nigger

>>167656127
Sure

T. Zero

>>167656127
>posted from my hard to use completely underpowered Supermarine Hawker Tempest Lancaster Stirling Wyvern turboshitter Griffon equiped firefly hurricane Meteor vampire dolphin seal killer mkXXXVI FR G F balancefire hunter 22 F1 B mk24

napier sabre tempest when?

>>167655916
>>167656127
t. turnnigger

>>167656532
Are you retarded?

>>167657157
I assumed it would be understood that I'm interested in the interesting one, pardon me for not putting effort into a when-post

>>167657476
You really are, wow

Hello yes when is patch

thank

>>167656127
How about you play something other than Shitfires you nigger.

Outturned some spitnigger in b7a2

>>167659020
Proofs???

So I finally unlocked tier 4 jap. Should I research the bulldoge first or the sta1?

>>167659763
You will need both anyway.

Why are the penetration values of APCR rounds a deciding factor in a tanks br?

>>167661659
Gaijin answered this in the last Q&A. Check it out yourself.

>>167661659
Because you can theoretically kill a tank from the front which with other rounds you would not. At least thats the theory, in the game its post-pen effects are so piss poor that no one ever bothers to use it anyway.

>>167659301
fly the plane and you'll see how great it is

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>>167653747
Because they don't do automated bans like a lot of other online games do.

If their anti-hack algorithm detects some weird values with your account then a Gaijin employee will check what is going on.

If they notice you're obviously hacking or abusing broken mechanics only then will they issue a ban.

Unless you're abusing decal size as camo I doubt they're going to do shit.

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>get big box today
>2 boosters, 150% and 200% lions and rp.
>know I'm going to get uptiered against jets or in a 2 minute bomber circlejerk
C-c-can't wait, Gaijin )))))

>>167666881
>not doing a B-29/BV/Tu-4 squad for a sure win with shittons of RP

>>167668202
none of my friends play war thunder

>>167670870
u dont have any

>>167671016
Huh, I get the "TIRED OF RNG? CHOSE WAR THUNDER!"

Lol fuck this game
Downgrade tank to T-80 because I was losing too many silver currency
Somehow get better penetration on Shermans than in my T-34
Also can't even penetrate KVs but when I buy a KV it might as well be made of swiss cheese

>>167671706
Stop being salty and git gud.

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>>167641920
>GAME RELEASED

néééééééééger

Did I miss the release?

>>167671796
I got good in the T-80
Laughing pretty hard when I destroyed an M4 with two shots

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>>167672026
>"I destroyed an M4 with two shots"
>not one-shoting the worst tanks in the game and watch them cry

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W H E N
H
E
N

>>167673164
Probably end up as the artillery..

>"wE r cOnsidring it ))))))"
Later
>"oh nononono too unbalnced no arty ))))))))"

Italian plen fucking when?
Also who the fuck would put in a naval mode Russia but not Italy
Are they fucking drunk at Gajiin?

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>>167641506
>>167641601

P-51B/C WHEN

also
ctrl+f
>a-36
>p-51
>hawker pride
>helmet
0 of 0

>>167673478
>Italian plen fucking when?
There's already one comrade, just pay us some money )))))))))))

>Also who the fuck would put in a naval mode Russia but not Italy
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU INSULT MODDER RUSSIA? FUCK YOU GAY ITALIAN PASTAHOBBIDIBABBIDI SHIT!

>Are they fucking drunk at Gajiin?
)))))))))

>>167673478
>>167673670

>P-51c and Razorback P47s flying against MC205 Veltros and Reggiane Re.2005s over Italy with B-26 Marauders bombing German Forces over Rome and or Monte Casino when?

>>167674057
>Re.2005
>ever built in any relevant number
kek

>>167674181
>i185
>R2Y2
>Y7W
>Ho229

>>167674181
>posted in my ________ in War Thunder

Do you really wanna go there? I can list a shitload of "literal whats" that are in War Thunder

>>167674335
>>167674396
>creates "historical" scenario
>gets buttflustered when holes poked in it
ayy lmao

>>167674824
>re2005 never saw combat
>mc205 never saw combat

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>>167674952
and this has stopped gaijin in the past since when?

>>167650530
>russian bias premiums
and what would those be? All the ground forces premiums don't look that great, especially the premium IS-2

>>167671082
>>167671016
Gaijin sued for false advertising when?

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when?

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>>167679530
how is it false advertising?

>>167679282
T-126
>2.7 "light" tank with armor superior to the T-34
SU-57
>initial D truck with APHE equipped british gun and blazing reload speed
T-V
>panther A at 5.7
KV-122
>essentially IS-2 at 5.7
KV-220
>slavbunker supreme
I think I got most of them. A bunch of planes are great, can't be arsed to list them.

>>167679694
>300 mm pen HEAT-FS
>speed of Hellcat
>size of ASU-57
yes, please

>>167679892
I can try.
>I-153P
>I-301
>slavcobras
>slav spit
The list is considerably smaller because griffon spits still club almost everything.

>>167680193
>I-153P
t. turnfighting P-47

>>167680321
It clubs in the hands of anyone competent. I've sniped P-47 niggers on their climb up because the niggers shit the bed when they see the thing snap on their six and helicopter up.

>>167680321
I have I-153P. Defeating Spits in their own game never gets old. They rarely grow enough brain to GTFO, before I snap their wings off

devblogs when

>>167678515
No i mean they both saw combat,were tested by Italian,German and American pilot
Some Re2005 were even used by German in the defense of Berlin

is it even possible to win a soviets vs germans tank game as the soviets?

>>167682115
Depending on the BR is should be hard to lose.

>>167682272
the IS is a complete piece of shit

>>167682532
But the T-34, T-44 and T-54 are not. Good luck finding a game where none of the three are present.

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>28972 / 29000
srsly

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can someone give me a run down on these planes?

they any good? the 6.0 and 6.3 dont seem like fun because of jet spam

>>167680531
>>167680635
I have as well, it's a lot of fun but really you only get kills because people are fucking retarded, not because the plane is good

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>>167684062
>they any good?

>>167684229
let me fix that

what i meant was: are they any good using over shitfire 9?

>>167684378
nah

I'm sick of these fucking planes in tank RB: what are the best SPAA in the game under BR6? I don't care about being a cheeki breeki TD, I just want to be able to rape those goddamn planes.

>>167685601
m19/wirblewind

>>167684437
mk.24 is really good

>>167685601
if you wanna rape planes dont use AA its a shit, your best bet is low altitude brawlers with powerful engines, pick one of the following

>yak 3p
do verticals, horizontal against bearcats/germans and try to engage enemy when hes at low energy state

>n1k1
do fucking anything

>spitfire 9
turn turn turn

>>167680097
>can move only when the turret is facing forward
>can operate the turret only when on a stop

>>167673478
>glorious MAS in WT botes
WHEN?

>>167685812
Go tell that to KV2 players

>>167685723
Thanks.

>>167685809
I don't want to play planes. Never played them, I don't want to start now.

>>167686320
>playing war blunder
KYS!

>>167685723
>m19
fucking what ? in my opinion bofors is fucking shit... might as well use 4x maxim spaa

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So I just unlocked my very first T34-85.
What am I in for?

>>167687359
shoot the enemies don't get shot at

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>>167583382
>I never implied [BR-471D] is an upgrade, I implied it penetrates better [than BR-471B] because it's an actual dedicated capped shell. a superior design to the soviet shells.

The B-shell still has better normalization against slopes because of flat nosed penetrator and penetrates them better close range than the D-shell as has been proven earlier. The D-shell penetrates slopes better only when the armor:caliber ratio is ~1:2 or under and the effective thickness is too much for the B-round.

>>167687840
How good is it?

>>167688028
very good

>>167688258
So the 45mm armor won't be a problem?

>>167688028
>one-shot everybody you see
>Get uptiered and one shot everybody you see

it just fucks up tigers

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>>167687359
If you don't play like a retard you can own with it - atleast when you get it spaded with an expert qualified crew. When top tiered you can pretty much dominate the game if you play wisely.

>>167688724
Those stats are horrible

>>167688724
Man I'm looking forward to this, too bad I can't play for a week.. Oh well, atleast got it unlocked and ready

>>167688724
>only 57%
>sub 2:1

disgraceful

>>167689015
>Those stats are horrible

Yup I started playing realistic with the T-34-85(D-5T) and wasn't very good at the beginning. My k/d was below 1 and victories below 50% at some point with it but as I learned to play RB more and got the tanks spaded I started to own with it and got the k/d to ~1.5 and winratio to 57% so even that tells something about the performance of the tank in the right hands. Still a noob tho.

>>167659020
outturned a zero in SB2C-4

dive bombers are pretty based

the new warbonds emblem is pretty cool i wish it wasn't a 5 years slave grind that i wont subject myself to just for a shitty sticker to put in my plane

>>167684062
the 7.0 dont seem like fun because of spitfire spam

>>167659763
Bulldog will probably be a better pick. 90mm sucks.

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>Play T-54 '47 for the first time top tiered
>Get cocky with your Stalinium™ armor and think you're invincible from the front
>Nashor snipes my cupola from 700m away and knocks your crew off

>Play T-54 '47 for the second time top tiered
>This time my Stalinium™ armor will surely hold if I just wiggle around a bit when facing enemy
>Jagdtiger shoots at the shot trap from 700m away and blows ammo

>Play T-54 '47 for the third time top tiered
>Fucking tank destroyers I'm just gonna flank everyone and steamroll those Tiger and Panther II's
>Meet Tiger II H Sla.16 head-on and get shot through the turret face before you can adjust your aim with stock turret rotation and gun elevation

O-o-ok I believe already... don't karma spank me anymore plz.

>>167692854
How can one fuck up the use of 200mm turret and 120mm UFP sloped armor...?

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BTD-1 good for silver farming?

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>designed as a supersonic turboprop plane
>louder than the Bear G bomber
>test pilot took one flight, and refused to get back in
>propellors even when spinning at idle is fast enough to break the sound barrier, sending out a serires of sonic booms that can be heard 25 miles away
>one engineer caught to the booms went into a seizure
>numerous airbase ground crew caught in blast radius suffered debilitating effects of severe nausea and headaches
>crew member inside a C47 parked nearby was incapacitated
>sonic booms also caused structural and equipment damage to the control tower of the airbase it was based on


XF84H ThunderscREEEEEEEEEEch when?

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jfc lads what did I get shot with???

>>167693856
Solid AP or extremely pathetic APHE. One-shot japs all the time with my 76mm and 88mm shells

>>167693363
The Tiger II got very lucky at close range and shot through the one small portion of the turret face which is like 210-220mm effective with his 235mm point-blank penning gun when I was backing up... the other ones probably knew where to shoot when I was being still, however.

>>167693989
Well, I'm sure it'll be become better once you know not to 1v1 Papa Tigers at 10m

>>167693936
>arkaden

>>167659763
bulldog then type 60

ZSU-37-2 Yenisei when??

>>167695279
Read the latest QnA

after two days of not playing, there's nothing quite like tier v karelia

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YES! FINALLY!

A FUCKING GOOD ME-262!

>>167697296
enjoy fighting mig17s

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>>167697296
>the first 262
>bad

I think you're the bad one desu

>>167693420
>playing planes
>needing lions
how?

>>167698785
ikr ive owned every plane in the game since alpha and quickly grind out and purchase new ones as soon as they are added who let the scrubs into wtg

>>167698896
>t. Jimmy, 14 years old

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>>167698009
that's not the most fun 262 tho :^)

>teamkilled 3 times in a row now in the chi-ri in SB

someone enlighten me again what allied/slav tanks looks similair to it

>>167698785

dont play planes, want silver for tanks, read it was easier to farm in planes

>>167700784

You're playing with Germans and expect them not to be turboshitters?

>>167701429
i rather play with naziboos than slav(e)s that shoot at everything that not a t34

>>167700784
I guess from far away it might look a bit like a retarded t-34

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Hans, are your arms okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCNJVvspJfM

this triggers the spitshitter

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>>167703753
>wait two months for this asshole to make a new vid
>it's seal clubbing with the ufo

>>167703936
>new

kys spitnigger

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>>167704251

>>167693420
>farming silver with bomber
I can't imagine more boring way of making Lions. Get American Bf 109 F-4

How does the Sherman 105mm preform?

>>167706797
>How does the Sherman__
it doesn't

>>167706998
shitter detected

>>167706998

Due to the HE nerf?

>>167707095
+2, maybe 3 GE!

>>167707689
>anyone who isn't shit like me is a shill
wow /wtg/ has reached a new low

>>167708381
sorry, no GE for this post((

Turns out the team with the most T-34-85s is the team that wins

>>167709630
>arkaden

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>>167709630
>AB

I want pseudo WoT fags to leave.

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>>167710102
>>167709971
>i rather play a dead gamemode

>>167709971
>>167710102
>>167710417
>AB

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Implying

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>>167710417
>RB
>Dead

I usually find a match in less than 10 seconds

how the fuck do I aim the lancaster mk iii's fiddy cal turret

when did this general get infested by arcadecucks? newfags dont know their place

>>167711310
General became total shit when faggots like Junko started playing

>>167711160
>playing british bombers
>playing the fucking lancaster aka free RP

did they removed the jap copypasta tanks from SB?

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>SB

How the fuck do you hit ANYTHING in a plane?

>>167713218
It takes lots of practice.

>>167713218

Know your muzzle velocity and understand ballistics.

Eyeball your target's velocity for a bit before opening fire.

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>yesterday I decide I want into SPAA
>start my way to the M19
>today I grind the halftrack before the M19
>realize I've grinded 18k RP in a day
>assume this as an average
>check out the RP cost of the Duster
>220k RP
>mfw I realized it will take TWO WEEKS of constant grind just to go from the M19 to the M42
>mfw I realized the RP needed to go from BR 5 to BR 6 demand rougly the same amount of time to grind FOR EACH FUCKING LINE.

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>Play GF RB
>Have 15 tank kills
>But the shitter who has 1 base cap 2 tonk kills and 3 air kills still has a higher score than me

How is this even remotely fair?
Air doesn't take any skill, why does Gaijin reward it so much?

>>167715661
takes more skill than tanks you dumbfuck

>>167715661
>GF
This is a Combined Arms game, not a Ground Forces. This means that tanks counts for shit: they're really just targets for planes, which is the main focus of this game.
GF is just a honeypot for us that love tanks to fall in, in order to provide unchallenging and rewarding gameplay for plane faggots.

Air combat isn't fun, it's fucking bullshit, you have to be an autistic robot to be any good at it, and I fucking hate it. Fuck you.

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>>167715661
>he didn't play the objective and be a teamplayer

Is there any way to reduce the engine sound for your own tank with Boris Sound mod without completely turning it off?

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>>167715952
>Tanks
>Have to learn every position on every map and how you properly armor angle yourself.
>Have to learn every weakspot of every tank you fight against
>Penetration mechanics are also more luck than anything else

>Meanwhile Planes
>WEEEEEEEE WATCH ME AIM BEFORE PLANE AND WIN XDD
>WEEEEEE WATCH ME DROP BOMB ON TANK AND WIN XDD
>WEEEEEE WATCH ME DO TURNS IN THE AIR AND "OUTSKILL" MY OPPONENT XDD

Yes Air "Combat" obviously deserves higher rewards.

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>>167716402
>playing the objective

>>167716594
>tankcuck thinks she's fooling anyone
Go on, back to your point and click gamemode tankshitter :)

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>>167716623
cry and blog harder then, you little bitch!

>>167716594
This post made me vomit

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>>167716995
>This is what airshitters actually believe

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>>167716594
This

Fuck airshitters so much

>>167718152
>>167717084
>>167716594
>>167715661
>>>/wotg/

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>mouseaces on suicidewatch

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>>167718289
>war thunder
>a game that started with planes and has no other focus on them besides this
>ground forces is popular waaaaaaaah

Cry more

>>167718429
Tanks are fine
But you /wotg/ retards are not

>>167718540
I have literally never played WoT, bitch more.

>>167718351
>tanks is literally mouse aim
What DID he mean by this?

>>167718289
>>167718540
How about you fuck off back to World of Warplanes airshitter.

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>>167718351
their whole world comes crashing down

Remember when WTGF came out and dumb groundniggers wanted their own general?
Shit was hilarious.

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>trying to grind a stock fw190 A8

>>167720006
Get used to it man, you'll be pulling out your hair by the time you start researching offensive 13mm rounds while spitniggers outclimb, outturn, and outspeed you on the daily.

>>167720673
I'm going to have to do it in AB. There's just no other way.

>>167719850
yeah now this general for both gamemodes isn't paying for itself and should die

>>167720841
but where will I falseflag and namedrop then?

>>167721003
reddit where you belong

How good is the Do 335 A-0 as a ground attacker with armor core 15mm and mk103s?

>>167720841
/simg/ and /egg/

>>167721182
>How good is the Do 335
not at all

>>167721147
not as fun

are bomb indicators gone from GF?

how do I p-47

>>167724060
if you mean the bomb targeting circle for ground attackers, yes.
if you mean the little red indicator that shows you that theres a bomb within 150m of you, no.

>>167724971
>if you mean the bomb targeting circle for ground attackers, yes.
my bombers are missing it

>>167724257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQP3QLEin5w

bote cbt when

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The absolute madmen buffed the Type-62s turret traverse AND reload. This thing feels like a proper light tank now, and not a slightly better ASU-85

Type 62 - Angle values for vertical gun elevation and depression have been fixed: previously: -4/+20, now: -5/+22. Elevation/depression speed has been fixed: previously 4 degrees per second, now 10 degrees per second. Fire rate has been increased from 7 to 8.1 shots per minute. Source: Domestic Artillery Handbook (国产火炮手册), People's Republic of China Department of Weapon Industry's Second Management Bureau (中华人民共和国兵器工业部 第二管理局), November 1982: Elevation and Depression in P.271-272. Type-62 Light Tank: Weapon Structure and Usage(六二式轻型坦克武器构造与使用), Chinese People's Liberation Army Armored Force Command (Chinese: 中国人民解放军装甲兵司令部), May 1972.

>just sawed off a bv 238's wing with my typhoon's 7.7mms
I swear this shit is even better than hispanos

>>167726070
They seem have gotten a hidden buff around 1.62

>>167716470
Go into the tank ambient file
Delete all the shit in there
Replace it with the letter "a"
Enjoy your auditory wallhack

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>when you cap with your aa truck, j out, spawn in a bomber, kill a few shitters, j out again only to spawn in your fighter to kill them in their fighters that were out to have revenge on you

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Is there ANYTHING this plane can't do?

>>167727645
Turnfight Bi-Planes

>>167727645
Make you stop breaking your balls over it i guess

Why can the ta 154 take so much fucking damage

>>167727787
>>167727794

Dude, it fucking 1 shots Tu-4s and does cobras

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>>167727893

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Is it just me or are some ground maps fuck all balanced?

Also Axis always wins on open maps and allies always win on maps with lots of obstacles.

>>167730580
>Naziboos get to use their railguns and avoid getting flanked in their bunkers on big maps
>Allies can use their mobility to flank on urban maps
Hmmm

nametags back in RB when?
minimap icons back in SB when?

game is unplayable right now

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>>167697384
))))))

>>167725964
if there is any tank that needed a gun depression buff it was the IS-2

-5 degree depression when?

>>167733176
dicker maxx

>>167731857
kill yourself nigger

>>167734089
+100 goldrounds!

Low playernumbers are good

>>167734089
stop being racist

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Holy shit this thing is a pile of garbage can't believe I wasted SL on this.

>Can't penetrate anything from range
>Armor is meh
>Dat fucking turret traverse speed
>Not fast enough to flank

The fuck is the point of this thing?

>>167734576
you need it to get the panther II and Leos

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ded

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>>167734576

>talking shit about the Panther D

You need to fucking git gut.It's shit if your crew is shit.

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>>167739175
Nigger my crew is level 109.
I just played it stock and it's fucking garbage, should I even bother ace-ing it?

I mean I had a blast with the stock Tiger H1 but this thing is just so bad compared to it.

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>>167739393
>stock tanks aren't shit

tfw your the only person here with the la174

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>>167740572
no, that's me

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>>167737817

now that i have driven the chi-ri i cant wait for french drum-autoloaders. the ability to oneshot 3 tanks in quick succession actually makes up for the tank being xboxhuge with no armour or mobility.

truly the J7W1 of tanks

>>167741950
chi-ri has drum autoloader?

>>167742231
it works like any beltfed gun on a tank ingame. IRL it had loading trays that had to be laoded manually but they trays themselfes loaded the gun

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>>167741950
The autoloader doesn't make up for the trash mobility, the absolutely shit armor despite being a bigger target than a fucking Tiger and the fact that your ammo tends to blow up easier than fireworks. Also at this BR you get uptiered to 5.7 or even 6.0 75% of the time. I'll stick to the Chi-To.

Buy premium
enable booster

all maps are shit and sun is more annoying than before

>>167742845
)

Am i the only one that most of the time cant hear enemy plane approaching in ground forces ???

Hard to belive that wyvern can sneak up to you

>try the La-174 because it was mentioned
>you no longer have to sit 20% below max throttle to avoid overheating
wew, when did this happen

>>167734576
>>Can't penetrate anything from range
It has the most penning APCBC of your lineup. Crying about it not being able to pen everything anywhere is ridiculous.

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im out of words

>>167744346
>Grinded to the end of the tree
>Happy to get a talisman
for what purpose? Youve grinded everything out by now

>>167711310
>Realistic Ground
>Arcade Air
I like things fun and unpredictibe

>>167744518
type 74

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>>167744574
>he is serious

>>167744604
Oh my bad, I thought that was the STB-1, youre not as lucky as you think, ST-A1 is garbage lol

>>167744518
thats st-a1, its 6.7 and literally piece of shit

>voloko...
>CTRL+ALT+DEL
>terminate aces.exe

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>HEAT rounds are good for long-range operations.
>Almost every tank that lobs HEAT is a low velocity snub gun that's difficult to do long-ranged shots with.

>>167745295
>HEAT shells have noticibly less velocity than their HE counterparts on the same gun
got me thinkin

>>167745295
It's the other way around. HEAT are good because they don't need velocity to pen

>>167745517
>>167745510
I'm moreso talking about how most of the cannons that fire HEAT are howitzer type guns

Turning st-a1 turret too much makes gunners foot go out of side armor... who knew

http://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/666/

>>167745759
because howitzers lack velocity. If they had velocity of field guns, they would use APHE, instead of expensive and unreliable HEAT

>>167720006
>>167720673
Literally the only tactic you can use with the A8 is to suicide charge towards the other team and try to catch a few while they're still climbing.

>>167746324
So they reduced the HP of spaags?

Remember, no healthbars)))

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>It's a giant molten stream of metals flies though the ammo racks of a Russian tank and doesn't affect them at all episode

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>bearcats in tank RB

long awaited devblog))))))))

>>167716594
>Penetration mechanics are also more luck than anything else

Derp, this ain't WoT with +/-25% penetration values though. RNG affects only probability of ricochet from different angles and is fixed value for different rounds for different angles as can be seen from the stats cards.

As far as I remember the ricochets stats are based on Soviet penetration tests on 30* sloped armor shot with sharp nosed APHE which gave a statistical probability of penetration of ~75% - and this is used as base value for other kinds of projectiles taking into account such factors as normalization, penetrator type (sharp, flat nosed, capped or not etc.) and material, projectile mass and impact energy etc. and which kinds of armor they hit with what thickness/caliber ratio etc.

There's really more physics based modeling in the terminal ballistic mechanics than "luck" but don't expect to penetrate 120mm 60* sloped armor shot from an angle with your precious APDS.

>>167739393
Spaded Panther D is just slightly better than stock one, but it still is a brick. If the enemy isn't retarded it will shoot to your turret, so every time you take a hit your gun will break. If you get flanked there's no way you can react. The gun is good, I guess. It's just that the Tiger H1 is better under every single aspect.

>>167744827
What's wrong with the sta? Currently grinding it now, I want to know what I'm in for

>>167750119
Gun is shit, mobility is like ferdinands, less armor than m22

>>167748434
So? You can mount pretty much same bombload under P-47D. You can mount Tiny Tims under Hellcat. Both already at 3.7

>>167750260
remove american planes from RB

>>167749625
>There's really more physics based modeling in the terminal ballistic mechanics than "luck"
But in the end tracks and viewports behave like black holes anyway, ammo racks can take more punishment than your UFP, the internal damage mechanics are so wonky and unpredictable they're mathematically closer to RNG than to an actual physical simulation, especially the way they depend on the shell type, and so on.

Also, Goyjin never disclosed the math behind the ballistic and damage mechanics, unlike Warjewing.

Again, for all we actually know, everything might just be a dice throw when we click the LMB

>>167748434
>allies get some of the most meta fitting cas planes
>still complain about their tanks

>>167749625
IRL there's no "ricochet chance aganist angled armor" either.
Ones that ricochet, actually just fail to achieve expected penetration, due to lower quality than average of batch. This would affect effect aganist flat armor too, as well as can produce penetraion 'above' expected by same degree.
That's why "average penetration", not "exact penetration". It average of all tested shells, while actual penetrations during test would be usually -/+10 of that (depending on acceptable quality devation).

>>167750673
>have to play 'planes' in 'tanks' to be competetive
>not valid reason to complain

>>167750673
>posted as my German AA tank deletes everything in the sky

>>167751218
>posted as my soviet AA tank deletes everything in the ground

>>167752128
>posted as I delete the game

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kugelblitz
>loses 2 out of 3 armor piercing ammo in belt making it only 1/3 of the belt armor piercing

zsu 57
>loses 1/2 of armor piercing ammo in the best belt but surprise surprise the 2nd best belt with 121mm penetration got to keep 100% armor piercing high explosive

so kugel loses 2/3 of its killing power while zsu loses 20mm penetration that in practice doesnt mean anything

>>167753151
FUCK OFF NAZIBOO

>>167753928
i drive soviets and japs

you retard

when are they going to fix the grind?
pretty sure it's the only real reason why the fanbase is dying as people will put up with unbalanced piece of shit games if they have fun

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>>167753151
Kügel never fired APCR
ZSU-57-2 had mostly AP irl

>>167755320
kugel never existed to begin with

>>167746324
>Ta-Se, So-Ki - listed as SPAA instead of medium tanks.
This took them two months?

>>167755443
>Number built: 2-6
Really makes you think.

when is gaijin going to add tier 4 jap tanks that dont cost 6 million rp each

>>167755320
>Kügel never fired APCR
Considering it has MK103s it might aswell share the same belts as its plane variant - the jap and russian SPAA do this.

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>when is gaijin going to

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>>167750513
The internal damage models are far from perfect yet but have been improved alot in the last few months. When it comes to tracks and road wheels absorbing shots they actually did that alot during WW2 because they act like inhomogenous spaced armor that can twist the shell enough to its side so that it wont hit the side armor with its center of mass in the nose = no pen.

And yes, Gaijin has come forth with ALOT of the math considering terminal ballistics and where do they get their ricochet probability statistics etc:

"For each type of projectile, and for different ratios of calibre/barrier thickness at different angles of attack - own armour penetration fall ratios. Most of the data is taken from the publications “WWII Ballistics: Armor and Gunnery” and “Terminal ballistic Data Vol 2 and 3.”."

https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/781/
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/327834-ricochet-mechanics/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/4msena/rng_bounce_chance_will_be_removed_according_to/

>>167750874
Ofcourse, but theres statistical variance and probability given "avarage expected performance" of a round as you mentioned. Theres many factors affecting the chance of penetrating from a certain angle and things such as armor thickness to round caliber ratio, penetrator/armor type and material affect the final in-game probability of penetration. Sadly, because we dont have quantum computers to play with, RNG is the only way to simulate the base probabilities.

Atleast Gaijin uses real life measured statistics as their base values rather than made up bs like in WoT.

new blog when?

>>167750119
>>167750202

oh yeah and u have 3 ammo racks. Small, even smaller and the size of 38 shells. So you always have huge ammo rack in your turret... heat also sparkles a lot

>>167755320
>ZSU-57-2 had mostly AP irl
IRL it carred 1 AP in a clip, so it was AP/HE/HE/HE. "Ground belts", and most custom belts for that matter, are WT's fantasy

>>167757878
>Sadly, because we dont have quantum computers to play with, RNG is the only way to simulate the base probabilities.
Quality of ammunition should be simulated by small RNG variantion of ammunition perfomance, which would indirectly affect perfomance aganist all kinds of armor.
Instead, WT does it from "ass's side" (as my slavic co-worker likes to say) by giving random buffs to angled armor.

>>167758432
>Instead, WT does it from "ass's side" (as my slavic co-worker likes to say) by giving random buffs to angled armor.

The total angle of impact and effective armor thickness is what matters, not the fact the armor is "angled" and gets buffed because of that... Also afaik there is a small variation in the muzzle velocity of the rounds which affects the overall pen probability aswell.

>>167759475
>The total angle of impact and effective armor thickness is what matters, not the fact the armor is "angled" and gets buffed because of that...
Higher angle gets better RNG odds. If it's not buff, how else you gonna call it? RNG had its place, when we didn't have normalization effect, as a placeholder.

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>make enemy jets chase me all the way through the map
>j out

>>167760250
wow, you sure showed him

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>>167760368

>>167760250
>make enemy jet chase me
>drop bomb
>kill enemy jet behind me

>>167742805

Not the quoted.

For the ammo load, I take 10 AP belts and 25 shells for the smaller cannon. It removes all the ammo from the turret and sides of the tank, lets only a tiny almost impossible to hit square for the smaller cannon behind the machinegunner and makes it almost impossoble to die from ammo explosions.


Your crew still gets one shotted by shrapnel though.

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>the long 88 pens 5mm less of 60 degree armor than the 10.5cm at 500 meters - according to >statcards anyway
>the Tiger 10.5 can punch through a T-44 UFP from 400 meters (oneshotting the thing) while a long 88 has to go under 100 meters to pen and the shell gets eaten up by either the driver or the fuel tank
Really makes me consider my life choices.

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>gup vita shovelware has historical gunsights and working grenade launchers
>war blunder doesn't

>>167760250
>>167760652

People still play jet rb sim?

>>167762098
Not an argument because asians are miles above slavs as a race.