/parag/ - Paragon General

>>167458672
I WANT TO PLAY NOW
NOWWWWWWWWWWWW

Post your IDs

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>>167458672
At least add Fury.gg to the links and link newest champion reveal video

>>167459002

Does anybody use fury? I thought it was dead/a meme

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>>167458773
>already someone being a faggot

>>167459151
BUT I WANT TO PLAY NOWWWWW
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM ANON DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY WITH MEEEE

>>167458672
Fuck, too soon man, I got to go to sleep. It better still be here in the morning.

>>167459201
Ill get on I need one more AI game so I can unlock pvp.

I'm like a 3.8k mmr from dota and I just want to play murial and support because her skillset is god tier.

Is their a poison hero?

>>167459338
Nope

Only DoT hero is Iggy & Scorch (F- tier hero right now) and there are two cards that let you proc poison but they're not very good

Hopefully one of the next few heroes will be a poison hero

I know there are anons here, post your IDs so we can play god damn it. You might as well let the thread die otherwise

Any Gadget mains here? I love her but damn its getting hard to play her with so many cool heroes like Countess and Serath.

Aurora will be my 4th slut.

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>>167459687
Ok
I'm the OP who kept spamming Paragon threads on v
RobotLivesMatter
Smash that like button

>>167459936
Added
Now teach me how to play

>>167459936
>>167460091
Gold shitter here, username Caerv. Add me and I can play

>>167460171
>>167460091
Wait are you guys going to play vs AI.

Regicide2 pls add I just want to play murial all day

>>167460308
Game up right now wew

>>167459149
every meme is a dead meme

I posted the wrong username in the last thread. I play Greystone and Twinblast with a little bit of Riktor. Been playing since the first closed test. Username is Lord_Ryu

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>posting in /parag/ thread #1
It's got that new general smell.

Anyway: want to try one more tonight, but not sure if it should be with /parag/. I can see us turning on and devouring one another at the first bump in the road. Also: the game tries to match stacks with stacks, and if it can't, it "balances" things by putting the stack up against a bunch of more experienced players. The problem is, if we're not in voice comms, we may as well solo queue.

>>167459936
Got room for one more? I'm pretty new, lvl 13.

>>167463985
Forgot username: Ribbons

>>167463049
Last game we had only went bad cuz of an afk

>looking up videos to learn the card system
>missed party invite

fug

Just played my first ever game with Crush. This guy is riduculous. His damage is off the chain why haven't I played him before

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Just played Rampage for the first time even though I've been in since October. He's fun as fuck. Went 4-0-5 in under a half hour.
Now it's definitely bed time, though; hope the general survives the night.

>>167467917
He's apparently trash-tier in "competitive" play, according to Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/5r062g/competitive_paragon_tier_list_based_on_pcl3/

But I've been demolished by him plenty of times. Get his rocket dash escape down, combine it with your ult and it's tiny cooldown, and you've got a good initiator/ squishy slayer.

>>167466392
Were you the lvl 5 guy

>>167468832
>4/0/5
>in only undrr 30 minutes
Who ksed you bro i hate being kill secured tilts me

>>167470089
im the lvl 5 guy

>use defualt murial deck
>it only builds mana and mana regen
>still feels like its never enough mana
>can never truly protect my bros with my shields

Interested in getting into this game, as I'm lookin for a mobile that isn't leeg or Dota. The deck system isn't great imo but the crafting thing should help offset.

Im kind of unclear how jungle works exactly, or what heroes are junglers.

Ive only played a few coop vs AI games, and so far I like fengmao, serath and countess. I haven't really played much ranged ones yet but gadget and murdock seem to shit damage, and Belica seems fun.

>>167470245
My advice to you is to build either or. Basically if you want more mana go with either mana regen OR mana, not both. The mana regen is so small if you split it up it means nothing.

I prefer not to build mana on squishy champs because of Lt. Belica. If you grt her on the opposing team and were building mana and ran out, you get 1 shot. I play Belica and 1 shot muriels all the time

I will share my cards for Muriel, what you choose to upgrade them with is based on you but use mostly spark/chrono and armors

3 Elysian Diamonds, 1 Lantern of Spring, 1 or 2 Thorned Greenweave or Snakevine Mesh or Spiked Boneplate

I used to build Honor the pure but the shield got nerfed badly and wastes card points.

Reminder you can only equip max 6 cards
I usually equip 5 and a ward card unless I don't have the card for it. I know I use Assassins ward but the ward cards waste on other champs for my playstyle.

>>167470390
Belica > everyone
People underestimate the drone
Hilarious when people get shot for ulting like Gideon, Khaimera, Twinblast and Gadget

>>167471002
What is with strike and cast? They are both the same amount of power and cost the same. Were both cards meant to be for physical and ability damage but they just decided to make them both power the one that buffs both of those attacks?

>>167471189
>>167471002
also if an equip has 3 upgrade slots that means you only have to upgrade 3 times to get the bonus if it has one but you can upgrade it 6 times if you wanted? Should I always just have 6 cards on equips but only go for 3 for the bonus in game?

>>167471189
Before the monolith update strike was physical damage (AD) and cast was Energy damage (AP)
Now they're power. There's no AP or AD. It's all scaled with Power and the main difference is the source(auto attacks (basic) and abilities)

On the bright side you won't run out of power upgrades

>>167471435
All cards only have 3 upgrade slots. You can only upgrade 3 cards and can't discard upgrades from the card.

Some cards have a passive that is there regardless of completion of upgrades. Others have BONUSes that require completion of upgrades. Same with actives.

So if you wanted to add a 6 or 8pt card to your deck just for the passive/active you don't even have to fill it.

Holy shit just tried Kallari today and he is a beast.

Late game I start to shred people in 1v1s.

It's also nice to stop almost every character from running from you.

>>167472337
>He

>>167472547
Yup, just realized I typed that lol

>>167472337
Dw man we ward in upper elo
Also Lt. Belicas drone will shoot you while you're in the shadow plane since it's your ability. Make sure to not use it when you run for your dear life

Eurobros bump this thread while us amerifats sleep

So I've played Smite a decent amount and I want you guys to sell me on what makes this game better than Smite.

You don't have to convince me on it being better than League. Any ASSFAGGOT is better than League with how retarded Riot is about nearly everything.

>>167474789
I barely played smite and the one thing I can say I like about this game is the card system tho I'm pretty new. being able to customize your items is standard but being able to customize your shop feels new.

t. dota player

>>167474789
You don't get shit like this in Paragon https://youtu.be/x_xeq9l7DNY

>>167475352
that isn't how you pronounce doge reee

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>>167475352
>You don't get shit like this in Paragon
That is a good point. Making, in the literal sense, meme skins is fucking retarded.

That being said a "rape the maids" skin might be nice.

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/paragon-heres-whats-up-in-2017

>OVERHAULED CARD SYSTEM
>OVERHAULED MATCHMAKING
>NEW GAMEMODES
>HERO REWORKS
>HERO MASTERY REWORK
>MARKETING CAMPAIGN

Just a few things to look forward to

God damn it is a good time to like this game

>tfw I finally understood jungling in this game
You can't stop me from bouldering you from behind now.

>>167474137
Thread is not gonna last bud, might as well post your IDs and play tomorrow.

>>167474789
You aren't punished as far as i know, from playing Coop over PvP, i don't know if that's a thing MOBA's are doing now, but it's one of Paragon's things i like most

>>167476187
>new card system
Oh for fucks sake it better not be too different
I've perfected most of my decks

>>167476187
>rework literally everything
It's like they know it isn't that good.

>>167458672
What I want to know is how the HELL did they manage to make this game look this good while not being a resource hog.

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>>167478713
Probably because NONE of the heroes have voice lines besides AHHHH lmao
And something something spend more time on Unreal engine

>>167478426
They know it could be better.
Sort of sad to know in the future it could become the next league

>spamming murial every game
>keep getting most kills as support

When do I unlock ranked

>>167481593
Doesn't exist

Is this game dead? Downloading it right now.

Also, where are the cute girls.

>>167470390
Jungle works like that: the white camps in the jungle fill gradually with neutral creeps to kill, so if you don't want to get overwhelmed on lower levels you have to clear them regularly. Killing jungle creeps in your jungle fills up your amber link(the big orb in your jungle) which in regular intervals distributes all the xp stored in it to your team. Enemies can attack your Ember Link to steal the xp in it, and you can do the same with theirs. Also bump, you're not dying on me. Anyone playing today?

>>167478426
It's still in the beta you know, they're trying to figure out how to make it as good as possible. And you got to admit it's still far from that.

hey guys, just got to know this game.
how do i git gud?
fave hero is kwang
i understand the abilities and all, jungle takes time to get used to, but the card thingy is really not my thing.
i mean, i read guides on what to get for kwang, just to find out i dont have the cards i need. probably need to play more to unlock em, or do i craft em?
and love the fact that they are actually giving out new heroes every what, few weeks?

>>167478918
Are voice lines really burdening? I don't really know much about the subject, but I just wouldn't suspect so.
>>167489231
Kwang is great, one of my favourite melee fighters too. Kind of hard for beginners but if you are able to play him well, good for you. Yes you can craft cards that you're missing, it's a great way to get them, but you're going to need some unused cards to convert, so you'll probably have to play more anyway. Keep an eye out for weekly challenges and weekly card packs in the store, it's a good way to get any particular cards you might be missing. They release a new character every 3 weeks, apart from holidays.

Well, guess I'm confirmed for being only Eurofag on 4chan playing paragon.

>>167491161
At least I can bump it for the Hamburgers. You better wake up soon you fat bastards, I'll be leaving my house in a moment.

>>167489763
Yes. It costs a lot of money and takes a lot of resources to stick in 15-30 minutes of voice lines.

These champs dont even have taunts built in

So any tips for someone just starting off? Are the tutorials useful?

>>167501348
>Are the tutorials useful?

Not really

>>167501348
Here are some basic tips:

use agora.gg for deck ideas

Pay attention to basic meta and who starts in what lane

Have a deck for every role (jungler, mid laner, off laner, support, carry)

Don't play underpowered heroes, hero balance is in a bad spot right now

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Holy shit, a Paragon general. I've tried to make this thing like three times now so I'm glad it's finally here. I just started playing again yesterday so good timing.

It'll probably be slow for a while though.

If anyone wants to play right now, post your ID

>>167503667
>Don't play underpowered heroes, hero balance is in a bad spot right now
Which heroes are underpowered?

>>167474789
I used to play Smite a lot with my friends.

It takes a lot of setup for a single hero to 100-0 any enemy with a kit dump. No more "Oh, Agni showed up, I am now dead."

Melee basic attackers are much better because the movement speed debuff is tiny compared to Smite's.

Not every hero has hard cc, and fewer still have more than ~1s. Many have slows to help land their abilities, but being made to stand still for 10 seconds doesn't happen.

The card system is decent, I like it because you can premeditate situational building. Then again, I was a Battle Network fanboy, so take that as you will.

>>167504921
lenny and poe

>>167504986
>battle network
damn, I wanted those games so bad as a kid.

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Post some scores amigos.

>>167504476
Exactly my thoughts, just got back into it with a couple of new friends and I'm having a blast.

>>167505496
my first game back we won with a last second push while our core was sitting at 4%

if that hadn't happened I damn near would've put the game back down.

>>167505496
>all thise universal cards
>20 kills from 2 players
Jesus

>>167505902
>>167505496
not any old player, that's 20 kills from steel. what the fuck?

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>it's still alive
Might make something of this general yet.

>>167506221
I won't let it die this time senpai, this is the farthest I've ever seen it go

>>167506124
Damage Steel is a beast, and that guy was building attack speed to boot. Probably a smurf who knew he could get out of most situations with Steel's Bullrush and just roamed picking on defenseless noobs.
I tried building him tank (3500 health plus some armour) and he still got fucked because of the pure damage meta. We're still a few patches away from that being fixed, I reckon, though the latest blog post says they're focusing on Matchmaking and overhauling the Card system.

>>167505902
>>167506124
Is this weird? What's wrong with Universals?

>>167506657
why is the tank putting up carry numbers? somehow i care less about that then when the balance was all fucking defense and we had murdocks able to survive teamfights as if they were a tank

mana regen to .4 a card point when

>>167478713
Unreal engine 4 is extremely optimized.

>>167506657
There's most likely a better card and better way to build. Not that you shouldn't build any but from what I understand you don't have any basic pen, decent ward card or health bonus.
Someone with a affinity build will outplay and destroy you. I do it all the time.

It's like Universal Murdock versus Fury Murdock. I recommend Assassins ward on Serath and don't build that shielding shit.

>>167509328
Alright, thanks for the tip man.

>>167509328
thats not particularly true for characters like sparrow

I want to play
please let's play

>>167510376
im already playing m8

>>167510415
screw you

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am I gonna make it

>>167510534
you can try.

>>167511719
From my point of view solo Q is evil

>>167511876
>Q

queue*

>>167511876
fine wana play then nigger?

>>167496825
>These champs dont even have taunts built in
They're unlocked at level 8, and at least Grux, Gideon, Rampage and Murdock have voice lines. Murdock's Seven Shot Salute has at least three variant laughs.

>>167512664
every character has voice lines if we are talking about grunts n shit.

>>167504921
According to this:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/5r062g/competitive_paragon_tier_list_based_on_pcl3/
Iggy, Grim and Crunch. But I've seen Crunch and Grim played very well. That said, I've not been in Platinum/ Diamond, so maybe they're just viable in lower Elos. Just don't pick Iggy.

>>167512810
I guess. But they're not going to be monologuing: any spoken voice line will be maybe three times the length of a grunt or laugh, I can't imagine a few slightly larger files for each character will make or break optimisation.

>>167512841
pros in stream say crunch is a beast so ill take that list with a grain of salt

>>167511329
Looks like it, but the placement matches are pretty easy-going: learn a fighter, carry or jungler to fill out your roles.
Casters can basically work on any lane, most junglers apart from Khaimera can do support and offlane pretty well, too (I've seen mid and support Kallari, but it's rare).

>>167512664
>>167512810
>>167513027
There's actual voice acting in the works.

https://soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/sets/unreleased-paragon-dialog

Also I don't see what voice acting has to do with how optimized the game is.

>>167513027
sure? but i was not arguing that.

>>167513137
That's for the best: people like to try and force shit like this, but unless a character is just glaringly bad (shit scaling, useless kit), I say go for it.

>>167513238
Neat

>>167513257
Must have lost the thread of the conversation at some point, my bad.

>>167513238
>https://soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/sets/unreleased-paragon-dialog
>dekkers voice lines
such a positive cutie

>>167513238
>sparrows lines
you think she has an with severog and countess? she seems to have a slight hate boner for immortals might be because of grey stone

>>167514348
an issue*

>>167513191
only like playing support tho

But yea when do I get out of the ELO where people just face tank towers with enemy minions surrounding them so they can get two hits in before they suicide

or fucking running while looking back reee

>>167514854
do you solo queue with supps?

>>167516571
I solo que as muriel yes

I always play support for now. If I didn't I'd feel like no one would be support except for the one guy who plays carry but gets one ward item.

This low ELO sucks. There should be win streak bonuses or something. It's taking forever to get to the point where warding matters. Trying to shield anyone almost feels like shit mana mangement because they will just run backwards and get themselves killed anyway or try to 3v1.

wat da fug epic games.

>>167518936
welcome to mobas

>no games

I just saw this game on the PS4, played some ai matches

Is Kwang any good and where would I play him? Hes fun

>>167523768
play kwang in off lane hes good yes.
just survive till lvl 5. throw sword on the adc and ult then kill

So who wants to play?

>>167509971
Sparrow is fucking garbage

>>167526538
You're garbage

>>167526538
>i suck with her ergo she sucks

>>167526538
lol sparrow hits so fucking hard and can clean up her own kill like no bodys buisness

>>167526296
Eberyone add me

Regicide2

I want to play all day desu

>>167527650
are you pc?
id rather not add you then cuz i like meh voice chat.

>>167528862
>being this gay

>>167528862
pc master race of course

>>167529575
>not comunication with ur team
i don't ask if ur strocking with one hand fagget

>>167526538
Fucking fight me nigger

>>167529886
>not typing master race

>>167532198
how am i supposed to jerk my own dick then?

At a certain point, it feels like I'd be better off playing on a whole different account instead of trying to climb out of Silver ELO. Is it even possible to climb my way out of here?

>>167535135

Yes. Stop being a loser and play with people on mics if you want to climb. Or just get exceptionally good at Murdock or TwinBlast.

>>167535135
5 man Q

>>167528862

Anyone can voice chat via Discord albeit it is a pain in the ass (and you need a phone handy) if you're on console.

>>167535236
or sparrow but she takes more work

>>167535236
Why did you assume I play with no mic? Actually, that's part of the issue. I played with a set of people for a very long time that seemed to never really improve at the game. We would lose like 24 games in a row.

They've stopped playing since and I've formed a new group with the actual good player from the old one and we've been going on huge winning streaks. I had to climb all the way out of bronze back into silver but this shit is taking forever.

>>167535640
Man I'm feeling like that with the friends who got me into this game. Me and one other do pretty well every match and when we queued as just us two we ended up in a match where we destroyed, but the other teammates were very helpful with that.

Then with our full 5 people group we lose every match. I try to give them tips and suggest what they should do within my knowledge since I can't tell the jungler what to actually do I don't know anything about it. But it's not fun to lose every match

>>167537090
Yeah, if your entire five man isn't strong you may as well not even bother because you'll just get paired against other squads of people who actually have a gameplan.

Luckily for me, the weaker players just kind of gave up on the game so it wasn't so hard to stop playing with them.

>>167538442
>>167537090

It adds a significant MMR raise to you if you're playing in a five-stack. This means harder opponents. Better to play with randoms than feeders.

>>167538442
>>167539357
I was checking agora because it always felt like the matches were to our disadvantage but the ELOs match up closely. I can't even get above 1200 because of this, but solo is boring.

>tfw just want to get to high gold but keep getting fucked because lol randoms

>>167539953
carry them

>>167541610
I can't carry three people going 0-15

>>167535135
It hardly matters. Just keep winning games. The game is still in beta, there is no ranked mode only pvp. They're probably going to add a seperate mode in the near future and maybe do a sort of elo reset. Agora and Fury differentiate between early access and open beta. So when the game leaves beta it's a fresh start.

Honestly just play, get good, win games. If you're not even level 50 and worrying about your current elo, it's pointless. You might win like 20 games in a row before hitting level 50 and your elo will change.

Eventually you'll start carrying games. I know I once pushed top lane as Serath like tryndamere and simply ended the game to go to work, killed 3 people who tried to stop me. My entire team was still at base like idiots.

In short just focus on improving yourself and your elo will catch up. The way those websites calculate elo is hardly accurate. You can go to agora.gg click on a diamond or challenger elo and it'll show some shitty kda and negative win loss.

>>167535135
Every time I get out and get within spitting distance of platinum I get kicked back down to silver you need a second person to que with if you want to climb effectively.

>>167542531
Five levels to go until 50!

You all need to focus less on fake ELO and more on actual graphics.

Anyone up for some games?

>>167543635
can actualgraphics fag reveal himself and tell me why he tried to destroy Paragon's image on /v/?

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>>167543962

Paragon had no image on /v/ without me. If you're offended by actual graphics, the game isn't for you. I know I guided those who were worthy towards the light.

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>>167544395

Why does 4chan flip my images if I don't manually crop them

>>167544395
Shoo shoo aussie cunt

>>167544565
you're going to kill parag with your shitposting m80

>>>/v/366529453

actual bump

>tfw realize that going full mana regen sucks balls

Am i reading it right when it says you get mana regen when you increase your base mana? The ui and the many cards that have redundant effects make me think I should be wary of what the game tells me.

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r8 no h8

mana /health potion
ward
and blink charm as consumables

I just started playing yesterday

>>167547996
who are we talking about here

>>167548519
wut

>>167548467
>run out of mana
Check
>scattered stats
Check
Looks like shitto

Why the fuck do you have an adaments edge?
Chrono spike is shit
There are way better cards than tempered plate. Looks like a waste.

>>167548609
>>167548609
>>tfw realize that going full mana regen sucks balls
I mean yeah it probably does, but who are you even trying to build for?

>>167547996
>going full mana regen sucks
It doesn't actually.
You don't need too much mana regen, on Belica and Fey I take enough so that by the time I get to the other side of the map or another lane most of my mana returned. 8 or 9 mana per second is really efficient and doesn't take sacrificing power to achieve.

However if you build simply a few low level Spark/Chrono cards it's not going to make much of a difference

And remember folks, lifesteal scales off of how much damage you do and that's why fucktards like Murdock heal for so fucking much. Who thought crit healing was a good fucking idea.

>>167548467
>2 armor cards
>adamants edge
>chronospike
>no overflowing gifts

>>167548998
11 regen on my Gideon is wonderful

>>167549820
>>167548746
fuk u nerds I'm just a new player hope u feel big shitting on noob omg

This is all I have ;_;

>>167548998
cc him
ded

What's the best use for Reputation? I'm thinking of buying card packs with it

>>167550873
Starting master challenges and crafting cards
You get free decks as you level. I bought two decks but now I only use 5 out of the 8 free slots I have
You can craft cards now so if you're not even level 20, don't even bother. By the time you hit 25 you'll have most of the cards available from opening free chests and completing dailies

>>167550530
>just CC a good gideon while he has a cleanse or blink card

>>167553230
neat i was not talking about gideon. Stupid nigger.

>>167554303
Typo obviously
Cc a Murdock with cleanse and his knock back bitch

>>167555662
>clense a stun.

>>167550873

Actual G here. The only, ONLY thing you should spend Rep on is 10k card packs until you have the majority of the cards, then ONLY scrap cards for crafting with "Unique" effects that are in excess of 2 in your inventory. ("Unique" means the stated effect can only apply once, e.g. crit bonus).

Buying master challenges with Rep is ABSOLUTELY NOT WORTH IT unless you are already Level 10 or near it with that hero, and buying the MC will get you the Level 6+ rewards retroactively. Before Level 6, all the MC gets you is the challenger skin and an insultingly trivial 5% XP boost (towards hero levels, not in-game anything).

Even the rewards after Level 6 (three master tributes, an emote, and a master skin) are not really anything special, and certainly not worth the 75k rep you could've gotten 35+ cards out of. It's just a prestige signifier, and the MCs only ultimately make sense if you bought fucking all of them (up to 39 heroes) for $100 with the Master Founder's Pack last year like I did. Even then, that's only if you worship the game and wish to support Epic in saving this genre with actual graphics.

10k card packs. That is all you need. Get all the cards, then consider dropping money for swag. You get half-off on coins by buying the Paragon Essentials Edition on PS4 for $30, which comes with $60 worth of coins (6000 coins).

If spending coins, the optimal strat is to only buy keys for 200 coins to open the crates you win in matches, which guarantee a reward valued at 500 coins or higher, with no dupes. If you are fucking down in it with this game, get a month-long Rep or XP boost and let yourself go.

You do not need all the cards, you seriously do not need to spend any money on this game, you especially don't need master challenges.

But first priority is cards, of course.

>>167555819
That's what cleanse does

>>167555917
I am level 30
I have 353,000 reputation
I have 90% of cards from leveling up
I only bought 2 master challenges and it hasn't even scratched my reputation points
Spend it on whatever you want

Actual G again

Don't listen to this dumb bitch >>167553126

You can't craft cards if you don't have A LOT OF THEM to scrap already, and the best way to get A LOT OF cards is

10k card packs

10k card packs

10k card packs

I was just five cards short of the complete collection on the day they implemented card crafting, and I had to scrap a decent amount to cover the cost of those remainders. Crafting is not how you acquire cards overall; it's how you fill in urgent gaps if need be. The cost is balanced so that you lose much more than you gain when crafting.

10k card packs

Do not let anyone mislead you

>>167556078

I don't believe you. Post career summary screen and card collection screen.

I didn't have most of the cards when I was Level 50, months and months ago.

The only explanation would be if you're quad-boosting.

>thread's still going
Nice.
I mean, that legit autist is shitting things up, but it wouldn't be a general without a resident shitposter.

>>167555945
what clense card in intellect and fury does that?
cuz as dekker i cant use purity censor when stunned

>>167557093

I've already saved it from death multiple times today and provided helpful advice as an authority who has spent more hours in the game than all of you put together. I will now stop doing so since you are a hopeless retard who doesn't actually care about the game.

Let me know when you're ready to stop being casual and start being actual.

>>167556326

This.

Level 42 here, hundreds of hours, there are still 4 cards I don't have. Just as soon as I grind enough mats, I'll finally have the whole collection. And then they'll probably add some new cards.

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>>167557721
Adios then, feggit.
Of course, you said you were leaving /v/ for good, but that never happened. Not getting my hopes up.

>>167559304
anon please let him shitpost. this gen only has like 3 posters right now, we can't afford to lose anymore

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Why aren't you playing Paragon, /parag/? It has actual graphics.

>>167559996
I'm too busy playing Smite which, sadly, does not have any actual graphics.

>>167560071
man i only dream of a game that is smite and paragon love child.
i need to see my goddess awilix in actual graphics

>>167559996

okay my ban on my main comp finally expired

I was playing Overwatch because I have a headache from inadequate nutrioning today (first meal at 6 PM at Panda Express) and I am not feeling actual enough for Paragon

uhhhhhh somebody bump

>>167566841
we cant bro eurobro its all up2 youtill we wake up

>expected to run overflowing meme if you're a support with access to growth

literally wat

Its 5 cp for an AoE healing potion. Am I supposed to rush this and disregard shadow wards because that is the only way I can imagine the healing being justified. It's only good really early game and goes to shit quick. The AoE healing part needs to be a card that can be upgraded or something because what the fuck.

>>167556569
>>167556326
>>167556326
What game have you guys been playing that you haven't been getting card packs up the ass. The rewards are RNG so maybe you guys are just unlucky but I had so many cards I started crafting recently and realized there's not many cards left for me to craft let alone care about using.

But honestly all you have to do is work on free chests they give you shit tons of cards

>>167563157
>getting banned

Absolutely disgusting

>>167576484
I have plenty cards and don't even spend rep or open packs. I have 40 unopened card packs and 1 million reputation buy still have most cards I need.

>>167577310
>on't even spend rep or open packs. I have 40 unopened card packs

but fucking why?

>>167580245
I dunno. I'm level 45 and have multiple days worth of playtime on this game and just kind of never did. I guess I should and probably will eventually but I just never felt I needed to in order to enjoy the game.

My friends that I played with were in complete disbelief when I told them, I had to actually screenshot my shit just to prove it.

>>167581067
So you'd probably be able to 100% your deck after opening those packs.
Don't know why people pretend it's hard to get cards and that you need to buy card packs at all. Just save your reputation for when you see a new rare or epic card and need to craft it.

Or master challenges for free shit and more chests

>>167513238
Thanks anon, that's great, gotta listen to them. Music would also be nice, I wonder when are they going to introduce it.

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Off today. What's a good site for hero guides with deck builds? Its weird that wherever you go, you only see one or two of the same cards in each build. The only other moba I've played is league, but everyone pretty much agrees on your core items for that game. So I'm confused here

>>167513238
why don't these voice lines give me any relevant information about the gameplay like Overwatch does?

>>167584214
>like Overwatch does

???

>>167577310
>>167581067

You're either bullshitting or you have only half the cards because you have no imagination.

>>167584214
Not sure what you mean by Overwatch, but they could use some voice lines for quick commends, most if not all the other mobas have that. Unless they're there and I just missed them.

Anyway, the acting seems pretty good, I love most of the voices, although Muriel sounds annoying.

>>167585537
>behind you!
>there's a teleport around here somewhere
>sentry destroyed
>literally every ult line

>>167585635
Wouldn't that mean I actually do have imagination because I'm imagining myself having more cards than I really do?

>mfw I'm gonna hit high elo by the time I reach level 50
Feels good man.
Also Regecide my nigga you tilted me when you ksed that kill off of Twinblast, I forgive you tho, cuz I ended 12/0

Daily reminder if you strafe, attack while moving or shoot and walk backwards you will move slightly slower.
We don't have travel mode but they did that
Always jump.

No wonder nobody is playing this game. The item system and the UI is a fucking mess.

>"Hurrdurr we are so special with our cards."
>while people are already confused by the League of Legend item system which explains everything and is vastly better organised

>>167586631

I meant no imagination in terms of constructing decks.

Which is forgivable in the current meta since they nerfed what few active cards that didn't suck so all you basically need is stats.

>>167587647

Once you get past the lack of frontend polish and misguided attempt at hand-holding, it's actually much more intuitive than games with 200 items you have to learn off the bat.

They're remaking the card system this year anyway.

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lol

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/carnival-of-hearts-has-arrived

>>167588070
you're right about that. I just looked up decks other people made and used them.

>>167588608
Is Dekker Asian? Why is Serath ugly as fuck in game but hot in promotion?

>>167588950

I think Dekker is Latina. There's something wrong with Serath's face in-game, but the model is fine.

>>167588950
>>167589167
Which reminds me
When are we going to get some more fucking lore?!

>>167589724
go look at the character information in game. there's 3-4 tiny facts about all of them. sparrow is a filthy prisoner for example, that has been fucked by Greystone multiple times.

>>167588879

You're literally gimping yourself if you don't actually unlock cards

That's like playing only one hero and never using anything else

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>>167588608

>>167590612
I only unlock cards if I'm building a deck from a guide and it has something that I don't (this rarely happens).

>>167589949
Yeah, I know I meant. Well, something more. Like actual character bios and a reason for why the fuck are they fighting. It's not like this requires a lot of money or developer time, it would probably take few hours at max for their team to write this shit down.

>>167591010

At any rate you need 1-point upgrade cards like minor cast/strike and minor barrier/guard or you'll lose a competitive edge

>>167591049


It's on the way. There's also tidbits of lore in the loading screens. Also Gideon is Evil Space Jesus.

>>167591135
In the loading screens? I don't think I've ever seen that, all I get on the loading screens are "tips" like "help us builds a friendly community" or "don't be an asshole".

Anyone up for some games?

>>167593260

at work atm but I'll play with you later

>>167555917
So let me know if I got it right, I should buy packs until I get most of the cards and I should always dismantle any copies of a card that has "unique" effects.

>>167593556

You should keep 2 copies of Unique cards because it's possible you might swap one out for the other with different upgrades during the game. Any more than that is unnecessary.

And yes, keep buying 10k card packs.

>>167593556
>because it's possible you might swap one out for the other with different upgrades during the game

To clarify this, it's optimal to rush your first 3 cards with 1-1-1 upgrades for the completion bonus (or Unique effect), then swap them out for 3-3-3 or whatever to total 60 by endgame.

You should also have at least nine 1-cost Power cards (either of them; they're the same rn), and I recommend buying them in bulk when they're in weekly card packs. Always buy the weekly when there's cards in it that you don't have.

Btw what's the opinion on loot crates? I got a few and pulled mostly bad (12 day reputation boost three times......), but I also got undertow Gideon which looks fucking sick. Between mine and my friends, it seems HEAVILY weighted toward boosts

>>167597534
Well it is, it even tells you that on the crate opening screen. I got only one boost out of 4 ones I opened though.

>>167597534

Only buy keys, never crates. You win crates from playing matches on a pretty generous drop rate. Keys are harder to come by but they only cost a buck each if you get your coins half-off from the Essentials Edition.

You are guaranteed a reward of 500 coins or more, with no dupes, so since that is 2.5x the value of a key I'd say it's the best way to spend coins unless there's a particular thing you really want.

Patch notes

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v37-1-release-notes

Moderate nerf to Murdock, (very) minor buff to Grim.exe

>>167587647
You knkw how many people play shit kike hearthstone, yugiyo, pokemon and rpgs in general and even dungeons and dragons
Then top it off with fucking Dota2 the confusing piece of grimdark trash and league of legends with memorizing items that turn into other items

This card system is medifuckingicre you dumb piece of shit
Go back to Overwatch

>>167599203
That Murdock nerf. I'm not sure I agree when things like aurora being near uncatchable exists

>>167458672
Why is this game so boring? It's putting me to sleep.

>>167602464
>aurora being near uncatchable exists
is she really that op?

>>167603334

If you're playing against bots, STOP. Do not ever play bot games, they are kill-yourself boring.

If this is your first MOBA, you're playing it like a slow and shitty musou game. Stop, and focus on map control and consistently getting last hits. The game has a stronger sense of rhythm than any other MOBA because everything is manual and direct. Listen to the minion shots, watch the health bars, only attack for the killing blow, and savor the reward chime that sounds like Sega AM2.

Within a few hours of paying attention and not doing unnecessary things, it will click.

>>167603334

Also, forgot to add this, but if you aren't playing the game on actual graphics, you're not actually playing it.

>>167605124
She kind of is to be honest. Not unbeatable, but her ult can easy be an instant teamfight winner.

>>167605565
shit well i haven't played in like 2 weeks so that's a little surprising since the past few heroes have been a little underwhelming

>>167605830
>other heros have insane movement abilities that can be cast for fun
>muriel has to use an ultimate on a long cooldown to move around

With some of the movement abilities they have her orb should give at least twice the speed it currently does reee.

>>167605160
Does HotS count as a MOBA?

>>167605563
I'm playing it on PS4, maybe that's why it's bad.

>>167605830

She's OP, but this is mitigated by several factors:

1) She's new, so all the shitters will pick her every chance they get.

2) She doesn't do significant damage, only CC.

3) Her kit is hard-counterable by Purity Clense, as a last resort.

4) She replaces Greystone as the cancer of the month, and this is the most important thing.

Also her kit is cool as hell and really takes advantage of the Z-axis, especially her walls which can reach and block areas like nobody can.

>>167606154
>She replaces Greystone as the cancer of the month
did they nerf him? i had lots of fun carrying as him and still though he was a bit ridiculous

>>167606086

HotS is a MOBA but it has no concept of laning and last-hits, so it's just constant objective YARR HARR EVERYBODY TO THE TREASURE CHEST 5v5 teamfights the whole game, which will give you ADD.

Paragon, like other full MOBAs, demands that you think about and take advantage of where you are and who you're with rather than clumping up every 2 minutes at the central spot the announcer indicates for the obligatory teamfight so the lanes can push themselves afterwards.

>>167606320
My friend does pretty good at greystone, but I think the issue is that Aurora is so fucking annoying and can come off as VERY overpowered to people so they want to pick her.

I'm tempted to play her because I'm so fucking mad all the time

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>tfw you demolish their "jungler"

>>167607709
Good for you, fuck Khaimeras

>>167607689
guess i don't have a reason to re download the game again
>>167607709
>those card picks
wew

>>167607709
>3/28

Am I missing something

>>167608808
>tfw i played an entire game with two people who didn't equip a single card

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>>167608808
Selling all your items at the end of a game is the best bm

also what is paragons problem. I want to learn what other heros do and their website uses fucking hieroglyphics with no(zero) explanation hovering tooltips to explain what they are. The fuck is this I lose 300 pine trees and water wells when I'm caught in this ult. Some abilities lower their cooldown the higher the level don't they? The official website doesn't provide half the information they need to be.

>>167609245
ranked play when

>>167609389
>ranked play when
not soon enough

>>167609389
Just realize that aurora can basically stun you and keep you from dealing damage for many seconds at a time with only 2 abilities, and if you try to do anything she will be gone. That's the gist of it

>>167605124
The problem lies in her having 2 escape abilities (one of which can block skills and get her out of tower aggro) and 2 EZ hit hard cc abilities. It makes her nightmarishly good at escaping

>>167611339
at least it'll give me a way to escape that khai jump with a 1 second cool down

>>167611339
>no silence card

>go mid
>enemy aurora also mid
>can't get anywhere close because she can move at hyperspeed into range, freeze you twice if she has an ultimate up that doesn't require any jungler or support, she alone can 1v1 almost anyone
>just gets worse because she can keep you off minions and your jungler is shit

>>167614225
>no cleanse
>no blink

>>167614728
>cleanse
None available for me as howitzer that I can see
>blink
or I could just kill myself paying 5 card points for a 180s cooldown

>>167611339
Cleanse card for some affinities, and if she doesn't hit her Hoarfrost she loses half her damage.

I hope they don't nerf Aurora because if she doesn't get fed early or have good cards she doesn't do as much damage as compared to Countess who will btfo you since she's made to burst and her ult has a shorter CD.

Countess relies on auto attacks and I've survived many times while being ulted or stunned. Lastly shit like Grim.exe,anything with a stun or bleed like Rampage and Grux, khaimera, and ofc your favorite fucker Kallari can easily catch her.

>>167609951
As long as her stun isn't point and click, and that she honestly will be dueling with 1 or 2 abilities unlike Countess or Serath, Lt Belica, Gadget, Gideon, she's extremely balanced right now.

Plus that's like saying an Aurora on the enemy team can't catch her either. They can. Her ult has Muriel tier CDs because of how good it is. Building resistances easily helps.

>>167614225
>aurora bad
>Countess can hunt you down the map, ult you for your entire HP and prevent you from escaping with long ass range W and heals and deals more damage with E
>Countess has 4 high damaging abilities 2 of which point and click one are AOE
>Aurora is a problem
>People walk into the ring

What's with these complaints man. Don't even post on the paragon forums, the best part about the balancing in this game is that you can't just play a champ and be good. Aurora stops moving for a full second while she makes the ring and being on the outside or center is just simply what you have to do.

I bet you niggas think Veigar is broken.

>>167616085
Other than the annoying as shit effects on countess' skills, she's super easy to deal with. For one, I don't need two high-cost cards to SURVIVE against her. Two of her abilities are easy to avoid even if you are a giant fuck of a character, the other two are minor in comparison to aurora who can ALSO avoid dying 24/7 without spending 5 points on blink like some countess builds have to. Aurora is going to fuck you with damage, stun you for longer, and you aren't going to be catching her once it's done or even if you get the drop on her

>>167616494
You're joking right? How is Countess easier to deal with when she can blink towards you, ult you, and use her two other abilities to burst you down and blink back or elsewhere? Let's not forget she's got the GROWTH affinity meaning she can also abuse the ability armor cards that can stack up to 72 power each and give armor as well.
Lets not forget she can also abuse the corruption to make sure your own armor is useless. Let's not forget that you need to be fast as a motherfucker and dash away if she blinks towards you which if you're facing another direction you will not fucking see her. Lets also not forget that she can duel Aurora in her glacial ring.

You clearly haven't gone up against a fed and good Countess if you think Aurora is bad. Aurora can run all she wants but running won't win you the game.

Aurora:
Glacial charge .35 power scale
Hoarfrost .6
Cryoseism .7 90 second cd rank 3

Countess xd

Blade siphon . 75
Shadow slip .5
DARK TIDE .9375
FEAST 1.5 scale 40 SEC CD RANK 3

Tell me she's "easy to deal with" again while you can't dodge a short range circle

Tell me that again you fuck

All right /parag/, let's talk about ranged carries. Which one do you prefer and why? I have a soft spot for Grim, even if he's a bit underpowered now. Used to obliterate everyone with him on Agora.

>>167606086
ps4 means nothing its shared servers

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>>167617687

Countess isn't building armor (nobody is in this meta), especially since she needs all the damage she can get for her ult scaling (her best asset).

Her ult does like 40% damage at best unless she's unreasonably fed, and she generally has to blow her whole kit for one kill and then she's useless and squishy with no escape (her Q recall is not that good).

Kallari offers far more utility and evasion, and is terrifying in the right hands.

Can you jump over auroras ring?

also
>trying to craft for the first time
>can only dismantle cards for cards in the same affinity

Epic games does it again

ALSO

I got empyrean mask as my highest rarity card. Who or what role can use this card the most?

>>167618081

The graphics are sub-actual on base PS4, though I played it there for my first 200 hours anyway. Paragon has the best Pro upgrade of all games tho.

Also, the framerate targets 60 but constantly hitches, the cursor in the shop is slow, and using actives with the d-pad is a pain.

>>167617738
sparrow and twin. i tried grim recently and like him as well.

>>167618365
those are different arguments than what i was discussing.

>>167618247
>Can you jump over auroras ring?
Yes

>>167618198
>has to blow her whole kit for a kill
No she doesn't. I just gave you the ratios of her abilities. Countess can poke you and blink back, Countess can also blink out of Auroras ult with good timing and out of the ring.

You can't simply DODGE Countess if she's near you, the only thing you can do is stay far back unless you know you can duel.

Since when does Countess' ult do 40% damage? Where did the 60% damage come from? Lastly since we aren't talking about the small pool of high elo, what "meta" are you referring to? Not everyone will build the same or have the same cards. I just told you about a certain build that grants Countess both power and armor. 72 power each card and 7 ability armor. Now think about her base damage and .9 Dark Tides and 1.5 point and click feast.

I highly doubt a non-tank in the damage meta will stack full armor and sacrifice their damage to maybe survive.

Your statement on Kallari is painfully accurate along with Greystone, Gideon and Kwang. Fuck all autistic Kwang players.

>>167618867
you can only jump over it if you are on a hillof some sort.

>>167618945
I'm referring to people with the ability to jump high
Kallari, Greystone, Serath, Dekker, and Rampage can jump out with their abilities.
Khaimera, Countess can get out provided they have another target
Feng mao, Gideon can simply teleport out
Muriel and Howitzer can use their ults to escape

This game has the most mobile abilities I've ever seen. And it says a lot about how they want to freely design champions without them becoming "broken" because they have too much mobility and damage like in games such as "League"

>>167619415
>This game has the most mobile abilities I've ever seen
it wants to be an action moba that's why

>>167620034
are you inferring that a genre known generally as "battle arena" should not have action?

>>167620034

No, it's an action action RTS, or a turbo hero brawler.

>>167621160

We're trying to get to AMOEBA.

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>>167622249

And that stands for?

>>167622749
Action multiplayer online environmental battle arena

>>167623385
>environmental

Oh man what if Paragon has a message about saving the environment, like FernGully

It all makes sense

>>167619415
I mean an action based mobility game is fine. As long as people like murdock (who might as well be a sack of potatoes mobility wise) don't get nerfed in the one thing that keeps them relevant

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This is Steve Superville.

He made Paragon entirely by himself.

What have you done with your life?

>>167625061
drawn cute lolis

>>167625061
what do you mean he made it entirely by himself? there's an entire dev team

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>>167627369

Those are his disciples. They gave encouragement and pay witness and testimony to the miracles crafted by Steve's own two hands. They interpret the Gospel of Paragon for us.

>open pack
>get intelligence 5 cp mana upgrade
>it only gives 150 mana

what am I missing here

is epic games trying to trick me again

>>167627927
>mass effect sweatshirt

>>167627927
>only 3 black guys

>>167628537
blacks have better things to do rather than making vidya

>only 4 actives

Consoles ruining everything

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>>167628537
>>167628753

Steve Superville is HNIC

>>167628867
isn't the playerbase 70% console?

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>>167629194

More like 80%

Anyone playing right now?

>>167628076
The upgrade cards are proportional.
Power cards increment by 6
Mana regen by .3
Mana by 50
Health by 50
Lifesteal by 2.5
Health regen by 1.4
Penetration by 6

Etc
The reason to use upgrades above is to A) bc you ran out of 3 pt cards and only have 1 2 and 4 or 5
B) to stack more on fewer cards
C) to use only one of that type of card (ie. Mana) then use lower point health or other cards
In the end there is no bonus to using a 4 point card over two 2 pts or a 3pt 1pt
It equals the same thing.
Just like the fact that you can equip 5 cards if they all have 12 points on them and 6 if they have 10 points

Hopefully they start adding bonuses for matching affinity.

>>167627927
I love how there are only a few females who are probably chill and dedicated to making the game and not catering to sjws.

>>167630174

Paragon is a Christian MOBA.

Required viewing: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WxlshKjWgK4

leddit is having a stupid hissy fit over the lack of changes in the patch

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/5sgch1/v371_patch_notes/

is bonus damage to minions from dominus ring just for my regular attack or for my abilities as well?

>Grim looks cool as fug
>apparently he is shittiest hero

What role does this guy play as I'll will theory craft with this. With the amount of people who run into towers and general console players surely the community just doesn't know what they are doing.

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>tfw you fuck them up again

>>167632813
blame the nerf to his ult not the community

>>167632813

>he didn't master him on Legacy when his ult could lock on THROUGH WALLS and did 33% damage to finish off any glass cannon

Can someone link some decent video/guides for jungling? I start close the green buff since that makes more sense but the rest isn't that clear for me.

>>167632334
Minions only.

>>167636040

It depends on the hero.

As Khaimera, I start with the Beastmaster's Key and level the regen ability. I go to the right (always start on the right) and kill the three white camps which gets me to Level 2 and then I level Hack. I take the green camp, clear a couple whites that have respawned, then jump over to the left via the bounce pad and clear those with the green buff explosion. By 4 minutes exactly I'll have about 3 spare card points and I recall, scrap the key, and build my first attack card with 1-1-1.

I have done this too many times.

Also don't attack the minions on anyone's lane while they are there. It's fucking rude and pushes the lane for them, which makes them more vulnerable and fucks up their farm. It's good to defend towers when laners recall, though.

>>167637814
>>167637417
>>167637676
>>167637556
>>167637965

>>167638072
i guess we're going to raided to death now

>>167638072

Goddammit DJ

You really will not stop until everybody on earth hates Paragon

What is the build meta right now? People say they don't build armor, is it because no one goes armor pen?

>>167638714

Damage and mana

Armor is just bad now regardless of pen. Health also bad

>>167636220
o rly

>>167638865
armor is bad and is needed on all support build at competent lvl play,
Hp is fucking shit though.

>>167638714
Everything shits out damage. If you wanna be a tank play Greystone
He's the literal example of unbalanced

>>167639813
armor is not bad*

>>167639813
>HP is shit

silver confirmed

>>167638865
>mana

Mana regen.

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Alright now check out my latest deck. I opened up a few more packs and rubbed my pennies together to scrounge up these cards.

Muriel is my waifu

>>167588608
>anyone who plays on a team with someone wearing the Burning Heart Serath skin will also unlock that skin for free at the completion of the match.
Fucking hilarious can't wait for a free skin

>>167642020
why the fuck do you have so many consumables

>>167642020
>unfinished cards
>tempered plate
>6 to many consumables
>chrono disc

>>167642436
Because I had the space and I use more than half in a game. Usually start with health pot and phial with ward. Drop health pot for overflowing. Drop phial for mana potion. Sometimes drop mana pot for shamans drink or use both so I can disregard mana and focus on other things like health so I can run head first into people bullets to protect my bros.

Shamans drink portal stone and guard token for there for fun.

>unfinished cards
They don't have an completion bonus and with what I end up when 6 slotted it allows me to end at 60cp.

Chrono disc for muriels shield spam takes off almost a second off every ability and a lot more from ult which is a big deal in fights ree.

>>167640783
hp is shit but that does not mean dont build it faggot

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>>167642020
>15 point word

>>167642792
whats wrong with this? It has no completion bonus so I only buy it for it's ward and end game I have somewhere to spend a large amount of cp and can make small cp completed bonus cards for quick early game bonus.

werks for me

>>167642929
going beyond 12 is just a waste it's too many points sucked into one card ideally wwith that deck you either go 6, 6, 12, 12, 12, 12 or swap out a 6 for the blink charm as necessary

>>167643094
but it's the card I would literally ever put points into last.

Ideally my final cards would be lords ward blink charm both tempered plats chrono mancer disc and ring of domina. I mean I don't understand how it's a waste. Could I get a better explanation other than it just is? I could make it something like 3/3/3 but then I would have to increase something else so it can fit and would delay my other cards which actually give completion bonus.

make me understand

sell me this 6/6/12/12/12/12 meme

>>167642792
>15 point card
>bad
It really isn't as long as it has an upgrade bonus and is a main stat card.
I equip 5 cards for most of my builds, I honestly wouldn't benefit by squeezing in a 6th with 1 pt upgrades even with any bonus. It's better to focus on fewer stats

>>167643831

You don't ever want 4-point upgrades because it makes it harder to use all your unspent points whenever you recall (or die).

Having unspent points EVER after leaving base is suboptimal and you have to do the math to mitigate it as much as possible.

The 4-4-4 would only make sense if you were swapping into it, but that would take two cards already.

just started playing. so theres no way we can join a lobby in game with people from /vg/? how do we group up or anything

>>167644804
add them as friend and invite them to party

>>167644804
>>167644886
52 posters? thats a long friends list. seems clunky. but aight.
Name's Theldisun if anyone wants to play with a turbo noob who doesnt understand the game at all.

>>167644304
>making decks without calculating up to 60
Not him but I calculate my decks as I make them including the situational cards
Why wouldn't you do that?

>>167645430

You're not getting it.

It's not about totaling 60; it's about making sure you never have unspent points DURING THE GAME.

If your last three upgrades are 4-4-4 and you find yourself at base with only 3 points that you can't spend, that is suboptimal.

>>167644804
>>167644982

Actual G here.

We're going to need Discord for voice chat but Discord is what killed this general before, last year, because it identifies everyone and people have a tendency to live in the channel, leeching discussion from the threads. Much drama was also caused.

I'd highly encourage people to stick to private calls for play and not establish a Discord server for us.

>>167646616
This
Discords are usually run by retards who crave attention rather than someone trying to build a community.
Just create temporary rooms each time you group up.

>>167646616
there was a paragon general that lasted long enough to have a discord server last year?

I also agree with no discord, it fucks up every gen that gets one.

>>167647978
>there was a paragon general that lasted long enough to have a discord server last year?
Yup. General was run literally by tripfags and so was the discord
Imagine it. Their jokes weren't even funny.

>>167648142

Actual G again.

I was the tripfag who ran the Discord (I didn't make the threads though). It seems nobody here now is from that string of threads (I think we got to about ten or so; it was shortly after Open Beta launched), and that's telling. This is a more promising group so I don't want it to end up that way.

Also my jokes are hilarious, stfu

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>>167648631
Your jokes will never be hilarious and don't you dare turn on that trip I'll fukin end u m8

>>167648631
I hope this one lasts. I tried to make a general during early access and my collective total of responses for every thread I made was *1*

Looks like the game is picking up steam so it should be good, even my day one play friends have abandoned me for a new group of people that started playing recently

>play grim for the first time

What the fuck

Why can melee heros and creeps clip into you making it so you have to aim completely horizontally down into the floor to shoot anything. They need to give him a larger hit box that matches his fucking size because it's almost impossible to hit anyone if they clip into your body. The hit box for his basic attack is also extremely small and it makes muriel feel like she shoots logs compared to him. Do support character have auto aim or something then? And then his concussive blast thing sometimes doesn't push anyone away or it pushes them in a completely random direction or even teleports them.

They really need to remove the CP limit too. Players who plan for long game should be rewarded instead of just everyone is lvl 15 60 cp. Games would end faster if there wasn't a ceiling that allows the other team to catch up literally forcing you to even up.

>>167606484
>last hits
>thinking a design flaw is something that should be strived for

>>167649994

It's only a "design flaw" in clicker MOBAs because it looks retarded (the way they spaz about in lane and interrupt their own attack animations and kill their own fucking minions) and feels shitty due to the inherent latency and indirectness of the controls.

In Paragon it's satisfying and hypnotic, encouraging you to be there and punctuate every death, rather than indifferently flailing about and "soaking" between forced teamfights in spastic HotS.

Really, that word: "soaking". It's so depressing.

Paragon also refers to the concept as the "killing blow", and it'll never catch on sadly.

>>167649979
>They really need to remove the CP limit too. Players who plan for long game should be rewarded instead of just everyone is lvl 15 60 cp. Games would end faster if there wasn't a ceiling that allows the other team to catch up literally forcing you to even up.

Their stated goal is to have the game end before anyone reaches max CP. You're supposed to act decisively, take objectives, push and win the game within each opportunity window. They don't want Farmville.

Also, if some players plan their decks for some 90CP endgame autistic Diablo-style build, it causes a conflict of interest with their neurotypical teammates.