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>What is this?
This is the Elysium general. A private server for vanilla World of Warcraft.

>Guilds:
ANATHEMA/DARROWSHIRE (Dead)
Alliance guild: None
Horde guild: None

ELYSIUM
Horde guild: <Salty Dogs>
Alliance guild: <Mandate of Heaven>

ZETH'KUR
Alliance guild: <pupper pals>
Horde guild: None

/who "guild name", whisper anyone!

>Server Homepage
https://eIysium-project.org/

>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vaniIlagaming.org

>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vpIxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit

>Nos Pre-Bis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j81TgG0p_HrYKajiUiQfYloSUx1culzy2u_Fc4wtiS8/edit#gid=329725463

>Macros
http://pastebin.com/mxxfvdqP

>Addons
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vaniIla-112-addons-download/
http://shagu.org/pfUl/

Old Thread:
>>167080537
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>1755
I feel sorry for the people who started on the pve server
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https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/33696-heres-a-great-suggestion/

LOL BASED PLOTTU PWNING "CONCERNED CITIZENS" HAHA
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Looking for a questing buddy. Gonna roll new on Elysium. hmu
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As a paladin, how do I achieve immortality?
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>>167137553
>pupper cucks literally stay up at all times just to post this op
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>>167137779
holy spec
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>>167137802
>this assblasted he couldn't make a shitpost OP
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http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#bEMhZZVMGtctRt

Is this ok?
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Filename.
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>>167138038
For what? Leveling? No. You don't want to reduce Mind Blast's cooldown while leveling since it's a mana sink. You want Shadow Focus at 5/5 so mobs two levels higher have no chance to resist you at 0 Resistance. You need Spirit Tap for mana regeneration. Once you get your third rank of Mind Flay you no longer need to rely on wands for DPS. You don't need SW:P to last longer because the mobs will be dead on its normal tick.
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>>167137695
Lol, why does it have the Russian "дeвyшкa лeгкoгo пoвeдeния" instead of "bitch" when Pottu quotes the guy in the last post? Is that a trigger warning for him or is he just incapable of reading English without using Google translate?
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>>167138442
>>Lol, why does it have the Russian "дeвyшкa лeгкoгo пoвeдeния" instead of "bitch" when Pottu quotes the guy in the last post?
That's the forum filter, they have swear words filtered to Russian shit.
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>>167138062
Post on reddit and ask for official clarification on whether the database was or wasn't broken into, since Suzerain claimed it was, and by multiple "hackers", and by how many people exactly, and if it was more than zero, why is Pottu spreading misinformation.
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>>167138062
is pottu single
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>>167138678
He's a virgin but he's married to Social Justice
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Oh vanilla wow is a social game! Make friends and you'll have more fun!
>help guildies anytime I can
>they never help me with anything unless they need it foo

>conversate in dungeons and have a very positive attitude always doing my best >people who add me from groups will speak to me if they need a tank but it's either "ahh too busy" or no answer if I need help with a quest or dungeon

>answer questions, give advice and positive encouragement to less experienced people in the various chats
>most of the time get ignored or the conversation ends there

>mail people recipes or items if they need them
>guildie gets angry at me because I ask if I could have a green that dropped because I was afk and didn't roll on it

>add people I quest with that I think we had a good time together during
>I try to talk to them and I either get like two one word responses or nothing at all

All I want is some friends :c
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>>167138909
shoot
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>>167138982
yikes, anon...we all got together when you were afk and decided we hate you

sorry
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>>167138982
Do you have aspergers? Making friends is easy just be yourself lol.
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>>167138982
Losers don't get friends.
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so i need to run a metric shitton of UBRS

how do i get into ubrs groups as a warrior. do i need gear to MT or can i just show up and roll on dalrends and truestrike
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>>167139292
tank u autist lmao
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>>167138982
You picked the wrong game to make friends, faggot. What's your faction/char name? I'll be real friendly on my 60.
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>>167138982
Retail vanilla was, this is a private server played by antisocial/mentally ill people and normalfags in their 20s.
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Check that bot http://wrobot.eu/articles/news/wrobot-for-private-servers-add-wow-vanilla-support-r109/ it's nice
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>>167138982
Them feels.
I play different hours then the few that are online in my guild, saw one online today in stv, try to ask if it's a complete warzone or if you can quest, even if it is considered a pvp heavy zone.
No response, try again 10 minutes later in whisp, no response.
Run over there anyway to get a feel for it and literally run into him, help him kill the mob he has tagged, just ignores me and runs away. He logged out 20 minutes later without saying a word.
Now I go from zone to zone, running into packs of hordes everywhere, all hellbent on 2-5v1 and I get no space at all to quest in any zone.
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>>167138982
I'll be your buddy. What realm are you on?
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>tfw been barely working (I get to choose when to work)
>tfw been NEETing it pretty intensely
>tfw only level 50

What is wrong with me? Why am I so bad at this game? I am leveling as a Rdruid, but still... Last time I leveled in Vanilla was during retail though.

I-I d-don't think I'm gonna m-make it guys
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Pupper pals isn't a normal guild is it? I'm in their discord and its got some of the "clique" people you guys hated so much. I was just looking for a normal NA guild to pvp with.
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Alliance niggers...
/spit
Where are you? Let me kill you
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>>167139634
Good luck.
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>>167139606
/played? let me know the only relevant information before i fuck with you
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>>167139634
> its got some of the "clique" people you guys hated so much

literally no clique in there
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>>167139668
>8 days
how do i kill myself
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>>167139740
i want to ____ arizona!
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>>167139796
All of the clique is on Elysium m8
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>>167139663
Well they don't have to be "normal" I guess, just not mentally ill.
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>>167139793
my first priest on vanilla servers took me 13 days to 60. i did a mage in 7 and a priest in 9 more recently...you should be leveling as feral but soon you can heal brd. the 50s are much better than the 40s IMO. keep going friend :)
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>>167139856
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CRYPTIC FUCK
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>>167139793
level as feral and 8 days at 50 isn't absolutely terrible

i spent like 2 days /played just for 55+ because I was grinding out the gear i was going to use at level 60 so keeping yourself on this pointless strict schedule ends up being counterproductive

just keep some clear goals that will benefit you in the long run and it'll be worth it regardless of time /played, unless you're spending 10 hours in goldshire doing futa nelf erp which doesn't get you gear or gold usually
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If I unlearn profession and then re-learn it, will my skill lvl reset to 1?
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>>167139346
This desu. What normal well adjusted person would put hundreds of hours into their character when they could lose it at any time. Private servers are mostly played by kids or people from third world countries that can't afford a sub.
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>>167139957
Arizona is a literal who, the clique you hate from Kronos (which is what im assuming you're talking about) is all on Elysium in MoH
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>>167140008
i wasnt the clique poster i just want to ____ arizona
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Best place to farm trash for shekels?
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>>167140008
I'm not that guy but alright, couldn't hurt to try I guess.
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>>167140149
i dont know about shekels but if u farm the trash in ur room ur mummy might give u some gbp
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>>167140201
Its like any guild, there are obnoxious people in it and people you could get along with, lots of people come through
Just try it out
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Do you often get a feeling that you are a fucking idiot?
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>warriors are by far the most expensive class to gear for both specs
>worst farming class

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>>167137553
>ZETH'KUR
>Alliance guild: <pupper pals>
>Horde guild: None

Zeth's Salty Dogs disbanded?
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>>167140969
yes we all joined the main guild on Elysium
dont join that dead splinter guild
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>>167140990
What main guild?
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>>167141046
take a guess
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>>167141078
If I could I wouldn't be asking you.
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>hunter 10 levels lower marks me
>kill his pet instantly
>chase after him
>he runs away

why are hunters so retarded?
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>>167141147
read the op

only one guild on horde for elysium
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>>167140007
Normal people have the common sense to bot and enjoy playing their characters for a few hours between work/gym/studies/social life etc :^)
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>>167141230
>pretending you have a life
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>>167141272
Don't project please, not everyone is a bitter 30 year old virgin living with their parents :^)
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What are the best quests/grind spots at 39 to get the most gold by 40 guys?
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>>167141854
badlands elementals
I grinded there for the entire 39-40 level and made 60g or so
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>>167141854
auction
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is bodyguard for hire bugged?
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>herbalist
>tailor
>32 Black lotuses in bank

who (devilish) here?
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Sorry to be a pain gents, but I can't seem to get the Elysium Homepage or the Vanilla Database to load, are they down or is there another possible explanation?
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>>167142174

Oh you subtle bastards, nevermind
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what do you do when a mage is following you around for over 20 minutes spam sheeping your mobs?
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>>167138982
>>167139346
Never played on private servers I did play on retail. Well when I played back in tbc I would do PvP or message someone I was doing dungeons with. I added some people that I talked a whole lot with, back when I was 13-14 or so that made quite an impression on me (since the people I added were often much older and the only older people I usually spoke to where my parents and teachers). It made me see things differently, ah how I would love to speak to some of those people again but alas I've forgotten them mostly.

I don't know how things are currently but when I played WoD I had the same kind of experienced. But now the playerbase felt even older, I chatted with some people who were married, getting married or were complaining about a divorce.

>>167139246
From my experience it gets harder the older you get. When I was 18 I couldn't keep track how many friends I had but now that I am 23 I'm really quite lonely and wish I had a few friends. Some I lost due to myself, some I just lost contact with. It's a shame really.
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>>167142345
make a ticket, thats bannable
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>>167142415
an ingame ticket, or through the website?
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>>167142449
ingame
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do we get the new pvp ranks in 15 mins with the restart?
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>>167142569
Servers not restarting its jus going down..

https://twitter.com/elysium_dev/status/826717266595155968
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Which are the best horde guilds on Elysium ?
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>>167142749
The top 3 guilds on Horde are chinese
No, really
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>>167142634
>Attention players, the server will be shutting down
It was fun while it lasted, I just Nost and Blizzard finally got to them.
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REEEEEE
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>server restart in 5 minutes
>get dc immediatly
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this BETTER be a RESTART and not a DOWNTIME or I'm going to FREAK
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>hearthing to get to an inn with 20 seconds left
>get chain feared by a warlock
i'm trapped on this planet with you mother fuckers
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IM IN
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>>167142634
>>167143019
Ebin
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Is there a good NA guild on Elysium? And no, I don't want to join a /vg/ guild.

Every single time I do a dungeon it is packed full of retards who also may or may not speak english.

Like I haven't seen this caliber of noobishness and sheer stupidity since actual vanilla when people didn't know how to play the game.

I can't take it anymore. I need decent people to play with.
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>>167143080
ROLLBACK CONFIRMED

ree
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What is resp time of ore nods?
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Server seems alot more dead than it was a week ago
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>>167143212
in what way?
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>>167143239

Starting zones arent overcrowded
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>>167143161
just join an elitist guild and don't suck
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>>167143212
for starters, it's down
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>>167143274
yeah 1-16 or so is really easy and empty
even zone after that gets progressively worse, borderline unplayable a lot of the time
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>>167143274

The wave has moved far past the starting zones. Shit's packed 30+
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>>167143274
Depends on the time. I started a new undead character yesterday in the evening (EU time) and Deathknell was overcrowded as usual. Every quest was the usual tag war
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Anyone have tips for levelling a rogue, such as talents to go for, gear to farm, that sort of thing? Never played WoW and I do like the sound of a stealth class
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>>167143346
your fault for rolling the default chink race
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I am so disgusted by the amount of obvious gold buyers I see running around. People decked out in perfectly itemized recent-level boe greens and blues + mount right at 40. Level 16's offering 10g for a single run through a dungeon.

It's so disgusting.

This goes out to all you fucking gold-buying subhumans: You're pathetic for cheating yourself out of the journey and the sense of accomplishment progression provides. It's like paying somebody to play Mario Kart for you, you fucking retards. I hope you all die of eye cancer.
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>>167143409
>server is dead
>not really
>lul it's just chinks
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>>167143427
Did it ever occur to you that some people know how to make money in this game? I had 160g at level 40, enough to get BoEs and mount
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>>167143427
>mfw paladin with perfect gear at my level without buying gold
feels good man
stand aside, mount cucks
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>>167143427
>everyone else is buying gold because i'm shit

I have 100g at lvl 35, I'll be fully decked out in boe rares at 40 and there's nothing you can do about it faggot

should have grinded at the proper places instead of following joanas shitguide and competing with 200 other chinks at every spot
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>>167143427
>tfw my botted characters' gear is all self found boes or AHed ones. Feel easy man.
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>>167143348
1. Level lockpicking
2. Scam
3. Don't do anything else
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tfw already clearing mc, rank 6 in pvp on fresh server.

i rushed 2hard
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Is Zeth'kur fun to play or is it entirely dead?
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You jus a battle rapper
I'm an official trapper
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>>167143513
it's dead in terms of chinkstalrius standards but still has a steady 3-5k pop (still above 2.5k blizzlike), it's a lot more "blizzlike" than elysium
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>>167143348
You don't farm gear, what you do is complete all the quests you find and you get some good shit as rewards.

Do all instances once with all quests (google "jame guide" of the instance).

Spec how you feel depending on your gameplay, combat is for good dps alone or in dungeon, but if you like that you can pvp as a stealth you should spec in the others so you can enjoy the leveling way more instead of doing like 15% more damage.

Try to keep a gathering prof at your level and also lockpicking.

Poisons are a huge boost to dps.
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>>167143513
it has 5k peaks, way more comfy to level on than elysium
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>>167143348
>>167143496
Make sure you're an undead rogue, too
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>>167143348
Markmark's guide is pretty good.

Gear wise are you going horde or alliance? If Horde do the Harpie chain quest at 16-18 for the good green Dagger, do WC quest for the blue sword & maybe the blue mace, which are really good if you're leveling as Combat which is good for grinding but not really suited for stealthing up and doing back stabs.
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How do you reset dungeon?
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>>167143348
If you're Alliance run Deadmines for Defias set of armour, if Horde get a couple pieces of the Fang set from WC the nature damage adds on to your poisons at 20+ when you've done the rogue quests to get them.
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>>167143565
> Be leader
> Everyone outside of instance
> right click
> reset
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>>167143659
With no group?
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>>167143659
Thats not in the game yet. There's a command for it though.

If that doesnt work, everyone exit group, leader logs out and back in then invites everyone back for a reset
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>>167143727
.script ResetInstances()
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>>167143727
.script reset_Instances() or something along those lines, google it
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>>167143565
/script ResetInstances()
Should be the correct command. Alternatively, what >>167143747 said.
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>>167143348
combat is good for leveling. I save up as much silver that i can so i can buy a sword at 10 (usualy 20s for a good sword) and buy sword training (10s). then go down combat tree 100% all the way to 40.

If you want to use daggers i recommend. pic related as a well rounded base for leveling. its good for solo and group play.
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fMZGcZx0xc
get remorseless attacks first. then go down the combat tree until you get imp backstab. then go down the sub tree until you get imp ambush. You could try going down sub first if you want.
daggers is kinda bad to level though compared to swords/maces but once you get the base it should pick up a little and be more consistent with crits.
If you are not critting on your opener it can feel really awful.
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I hate that they don't say how long its gonna be down for.... probably because they don't know either
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>still not up

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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> tfw joined an Aussie guild on Alliance from K2
> guild is full of nerds and the same people online 24/7 level 60 full pre BIS etc

what the fuck do these nerds do in real life
makes me almost not want to play the game
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>>167143843
forgot pic
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>>167143843
I never liked daggers myself because you have to keep fucking about trying to get behind people.
It's good, just more effort than 2 2 2 2 2 3 combat.
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A "Restart" is not the same as a 30+ MINUTE DOWNTIME. Learn English you fucking SLAV RETARDS

RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>167143861
> Getting home from work and seeing your Aussie guild all lvl 60 full of Centrelink neets
> H-hey c-can I raid with you guys as a sub optimal spec when I hit 60?
> Fuck off noob, farm your pre-raid BiS, go heals or fuck off
> o-okay

This guild makes me feel like a cuck sometimes, Turnbull should cut the cunts off welfare.
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>>167143348

spec combat for leveling, and use swords
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>>167143861

Want are they called? I want to join. Sick of playing with retards
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>>167143969

I've never seen gayer cunts in my life, their little nerd cliques within the guild and shit
lmao
They're literally playing 18 hours a day, investing time in a character that will be waiting at the same content for 8 months
The server wont even make it that far, so they end up rushing and grinding shit for no reason
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DO THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT "RESTART" MEANS?????????????
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> Level 39
> 78 gold
> Got to go to sleep soon for work in the morning

Fucking get the servers up ffs, useless shits, try restarting it when the yanks are awake for once.

>>167144038
> their little nerd cliques within the guild

I might have to spy on them and find out about the cliques, no point putting effort into a character or guild if you're held back by a bunch of bludgers bum buddies.
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>>167143936
thats why i put 2 points in imp sinister strike. i would usually just ambush something down to half hp then sinister strike it down the rest. It depended on the mob though sometimes i would gouge then backstab. Daggers is great when you are 2 shotting mobs but it sucks worse than warrior when your ambush doesnt crit then your backstab doesnt either or your gouge misses.
alsoi forgot about opportunity with that build i posted. It would be worth getting that instead of master of deception since stealth is broken in the lower levels anyways.
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>be a wagecuck
>just want to level my warrior all day
>get a bad flu, day off work
>finally get to play wow all day
>servers are down
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>>167143616
Not him but getting a full set would be worth it? I'd imagine it would last you until nightscape armor.
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Crestfall
1. Backported TBC emulator rebuilt from the ground up for vanilla.
2. Population cap (4-6k).
3. No gold sellers allowed, if there is enough chink interest they get their own containment server.
4. Devs post updates about specific work being done to improve the server and are active on discord.
5. Goal to make raids as hard or harder than retail vanilla, progressive content releases (i.e. no 8 month MC).
6. Thorough beta testing of mechanics, classes, and zones.
7. Choice to progress to TBC realm when vanilla content is complete or stay vanilla.
8. Custom serverside anti-cheat detection. DDoS protection and proxies for latency improvements.
9. Blizzlike LoS, improved pathfinding.
10. Competent, tight-knit group of English speaking devs with backgrounds in coding.
11. Open beta in early 2017.

Elysium
1. Bug riddled ancient Mangos core.
2. 12k population cap.
3. Chinks allowed to sell gold, ruin economy and players' experience.
4. Posts consist almost entirely of SJW numale CMs shilling for China.
5. Rag killed by fresh 60s wearing greens 2 weeks after server launch, only thing to look forward to 8 months of MC and BWL.
6. Crashes and rollbacks daily, broken dungeon scripts, skills and quests, MC broken upon release, Ony broken, BWL broken, pre-patch early release of DM, Elemental Invasion and Green Dragons
7. No progression because the server won't survive past BWL.
8. No anti cheat detection, every other player is a bot.
9. No LoS, retarded pathfinding.
10. Incompetent, Russian speaking drunks with backgrounds in inbreeding.
11. Shutdown in early 2017.
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>mfw I did not make it to Everlook in time
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>Warlocks will no longer be able to exploit to rename their pet.

im glad they are working on the things that matter.
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>>167144147
>Open beta in early 2017.
(You)
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>>167144128
Yeah, if you want to spend the time getting it that is.
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>>167144147

no one gives a fuck about Crestfall
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>>167144218
Those fucking lock exploits, man. I was zipping left and right with my Eye of kilrogg last week. Fucking brutal.
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>>167144218
the funny thing is their "updates" end up breaking more shit than they fix. Actually it's kind of sad...
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>>167144147

You guys made me leave kronos now ill have to leave ely?

wtf man
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>>167143791
>>167143810
fyi this deletes your gear do not fall for this
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>I need to get my mount the minute I hit 40
>that means wasting hours on grinding camped spots instead of losing a few minutes by walking the way to 41-42 when I'll afford it anyway

Fucking retards.
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>server shutting down
back to k2 then I guess
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>tfw you regret not falling for the zeth meme

The pack is starting to hit 60 this week and next week, there will be hundreds of 60s competing and pvping with each other over grind spots.
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>>167144147
You know nothing about chinks, man
>block chinks
>they ddos your server so hard nobody at all can play for months on end
>make containment server
>they cant earn money off other chinks, so they come to main server when it isn't being ddos'd
there's no winning move with these people
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>>167144147
Wtf i love crestfall now
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>>167144218

are they ever gonna turn off permanent inclement weather for any zone where rain is a possibility?

I'm tired of the fuckin rain
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ITS UP
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>>167144342
Most of the pack is in the lower 40s late 30s on Zeth still
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>>167143616
defias armor is more for pvp though. i wouldnt wear it for leveling i would get the quest reward because it has more agility.
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>autistically keep trying to log back in in order to get Recipe: Free Action Potion
GOD DAMNIT RUSKIES
HURRY UP I'M LOSING IT
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how long is maintenance?
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>>167144373
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>>167144375
I'm talking about ely
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>>167144430
I'm just saying its never to late
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>>167143941
they don't have to tell you shit. deal with it, cuck
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>>167144407
hold on one sec
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>>167144318
as shaman or druid and maybe as hunter u can wait with the mount until you got the money bc 40% from lvl 20 on is easy life

easy life
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>>167144342
The pack is 35-40 so you're ahead.

Of course you hate your life and only see the bad things and the tiny minority having it better than you.

You wouldn't be happy if you were playing on zeth and already 60 with epic mount anyway.
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>>167144345
What if they actually rent a decent server and get proper ddos protection? You realize that Elysium uses the Walmart of server hosting right?
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>>167144407
The longer you wait the shorter it becomes
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> Servers always down, restarted, patched, rolled back & maintained during Australian peak times

BLIZZ LIKE
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>>167144128
>Not him but getting a full set would be worth it?
not really. its shit.
+ 1 dagger skill but prioritizes stamina and strength over agility? just bad. You want as much agility as possible if you are going daggers because your ambush and backstab need to cit.

blackened defias set looks like more of a druid set even though it has the +1 daggers desu.
>>
>post on twitter that servers are going down
>don't post how long are they gonna be down for

Russian genocide best day of my life.
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>>167144537
Sorry but nobody cares about the 100 australians, we at Elysium are more concerned about our Chinese friends. #FreetheVPNS :^)
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>>167144513
Because that costs actual money. Paying a shit ton of money to deal with chinks isn't always feasible.
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I am level 60.
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>>167144375
>Most of the pack is in the lower 40s late 30s on Zeth still

>roll rogue
>level up, no life it
>only lvl 45
>mfw hunter in the guild got to lvl 60 a few days ago
>immediately rolled a priest and is now around lvl 40
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they're probably fixing the retarded los
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>>167144245
>>167144540
Alright well if I can get the other pieces for a good price maybe I can convince a guildmate to farm Vanqueef with me. What would you guys suggest as leveling professions since the other guy didn't mention them?
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IT'S UP
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>>167144682
Do you really believe that?
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Honor restarts are always hours long I have no idea why
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Does anyone get constant freezes when they play? I think its because of the elysium core. When I played nost I didnt get constant freezes
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>>167144721
ree?
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>>167144873
what kind of a shit toaster do you have to get freezes

i literally have 180 fps with 100+ people on screen
>>
>9 days played
>only lvl 55
>server first 60 did it in 4 days played

How the fuck do they do it
>>
>>167144873

not constant but there will be occasions (maybe once a day) when the game will freeze up for long enough to make me think it's about to crash, and then it'll be back to normal
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>>167144873
Core scripting has zero impact on your client, your computer is just shit
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>>167144695
Mining & Engineering is the most fun and areally strong in pvp.

Leatherworking & Skinning is ok, you can make your own leather armor and sell leather i guess. Kind of over rated unless you plan on making devilsaur set.

Herbalism & Alchemy is fun there ae lots of good potions for a variety of situations and you can make money with it pretty easily too. good for world pvp. Keep in mind if you are pick pocketing mobs all the time you will have more than enough health potions anyways. I would get fishing up as well if you take these.

i would recommend one pair of those. Or get 2 gathering professions just to make money.
Or just ignore professions for a while because they take a long time to level up and can cost a lot of gold too.
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>>167144952
They start by not being shit and not fucking around all the time.
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>>167144582
China is basically the same time zone as Australia mate.
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As a Warrior approaching 60, how do I go about farming gold? Should I try to farm arcane crystals? Drag a healer to Mara? Reserve orbs for strat live?
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>>167144952

I'm sure they do it like speedrunners who have ever little input into the game calculated for efficiency

also being a huntard helps
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>>167144765
picture 10 slavs squating at a round table with calculators trying to figure out who gets rank 6
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>>167144968
>mining
>herbalism
>fun
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>>167144873
maybe unrelated, but i've noticed my camera fucks up pretty frequently. like it will spin around, or suddenly be under my character. also sometimes i cant click in game.

these things dont happen on retail, not really sure whats causing them.
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>>167144968
I was thinking herb/alch for health pots since I'll be getting money from lockboxes. Might be best to ignore them like you said and level mine/eng once I hit 60.
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>>167144765
What? How many hours?
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>>167145028
>with calculators
More like sliding rules
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>>167144952
I was at 11 days when I hit 60.

It's not a big deal how quickly you hit the levelcap, as long as you're enjoying yourself.
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>>167145056
>>167144873
I get the same shit, camera flicks every now and then and about once or twice a day the game will just freeze for a few seconds.
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>>167145020
this
>>167144952

read joanas guide its like
>dont loot mobs if they are too far away
>melee a mob down while weaving in autos with your bow at the one your pet is attacking to improve efficiency
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>>167145163
That sounds retarded. Such try-hard.
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Wow dead server
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>>167145235
>Zethcucks will defend this
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>>167145226
...and the you hit 60 and all you can do is gank cunts and farm professions while you wait for people to catchup to group with.
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there are literally no quests in searing gorge what the fuck
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>the pack meme
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>>167145235
How will Zeth'Cucks ever recover?
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hows hellground these days?
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>>167145097
>server maintenance.wmv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3DQdZFBoZY
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>>167145163

Joanas guide is like
>do these quests and pick up this escort
>hearth and turn in quests
>grind
>you should be lv55 by now
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>>167145329
Wait, are they removing those crosswalk markings with axes/hammers?
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>>167145282
> http://db.vanillagaming.org/?zone=51
Mate.
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oH MY FUCKING GOD
HOW MUCH LONGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>167144952
Being so ahead of the pack that you are literally the only person in the zone kind of helps.
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Oh my god
Vanilla was a god damn mistake
How was this ever approved in the main game
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>>167145557
>he isn't a wand spec priest
uhh
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wew lad...
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server is up
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it's up
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>>167145682
>>167145691
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>167145682
>>167145691
can confirm. iz up
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fuck with 6.5k honor I couldnt even rank up from sergeant to master sergeant fuck this world
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>>167145405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJ4fxk_yNs
the wrong tool for the right job, slav lyfe
>>
surfs up
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>>167143843
>I save up as much silver that i can so i can buy a sword at 10 (usualy 20s for a good sword) and buy sword training (10s)

If you bot or just purely grind, you'd have plenty enough and more silver for 2 swords + training + skills at level 10 just by vendoring everything you pick up.

And leveling with daggers + stealth is just going to slow you way down.

It isn't bad for wpvp/ganking either.

And you also have blade furry in case you aggro any extra mobs.

No idea why anyone would even consider anything else besides combat swords unless they're level 60. I guess if you just like gimping yourself then go for it.
>>
> about 20/30 HKs off the mount discount

REEEEEEEEEE gimme 10gold!
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>>167145682
ANATHEMA STILL DOWN
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>>167145682
>>167145691
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>>167145874
at this point in time it's faster to farm 10g than farm honor for r3
>>
REEEEEEEEE
>>
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>down again
hahahahahahah
>>
When do the PVP ranks update?
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Fucking Slavs
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I'm in
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I just want to play a classic mmo that isn't run and infested by third world mongoloids.

Is that too much to ask?
>>
does previous week count into current week ranks? Got like 500 hks in stv levels and this week only got like 50
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>>167145969
They just did.
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fuck only made it to rank 6 and 40% in
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4% TO FUCKING RANK 7. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
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>>167146010
Oh I see. I barely got out of town before the fucking server went down again
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Fucking Slavs, dude. Didn't even get in on time to see what rank I am.
Can't we have a rollover without fucking 12 hours of maintenance? Subhuman filth
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>>167146057
rip my mara run
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Welp guess I'm getting a full nights sleep
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>>167146057
WHAT THE FUCK
>>
hehe another batch of free herbalism skillups incomming
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Is leveling on Elysium okay now?

I've been leveling on Zeth for a while because being on Elysium was fucking miserable but I want to go back eventually.
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>>167146057
Can they do anything right?
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>>167146115
What do you mean?
>>
I just had enough time to buy my rank 7 pvp boots and gloves. I'm a true golden paladin now.
>>
>>167146120
Its hell, don't come here, seriously, you can't even make it through the 30s because its one giant shit fest of people slaughtering each other instead of getting any quests done
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>>167146120
It's fine now.
>>
>>167146057

>it's another 12 hour "restart" episode

Wow, didn't see that one coming again
>>
>>167145618
I'd swore wand damage was based off int tho.
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>>167146196
All it's based off is the wand's dps. Nothing more.
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Is Anticipation or Toughness better for Prot warrior?
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>>167145985
Yes, because the only countries that aren't regulatorily captured by multinationals, are theirs.
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>>167146153

All herbs are spawned on server resets, so if you login quick and make a round you can find a ton
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>finally have some free time
>decide to start playing again
>try to log in
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>>167146194
No point playing on these days their weekly honour/maintenance has never been less than a complete multi-hour joke.
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>>167146176
>>167146178
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>>167146239

seriously fuck these people, they'd probably cum their pants if the devs gave them an @
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>>167146057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh3tuL_DVsE

^ vid is elysium staff during maintenance
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>>167145281
>...and the you hit 60 and all you can do is gank cunts and farm professions while you wait for people to catchup to group with.
Said cunt farmed more than 200 Black Lotuses on said week.
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>>167146178
>>167146176
>>167146120
>started late because I don't care starting MC farm 3 weeks later
>one week later I'm 33
>every quest mobs are camped to hell already
>might just grind to 40 or even more

Anyone on their 40s here ? How bad is it ?
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>>167146330
Well I guess they are truly Blizzlike
>>
Is it true that Fury dual wielding on warriors for levelling is a trap? I heard the miss rate was something close to 30% due to no hit chance gear. Would 2h Fury be a better option for levelling?
>>
I just started playing after i got fucked by a skull level alliance player while questing and right after running to my corpse i get disconnected.


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-
>>
Any idea what they implement?
Maybe more class quests? I kind of need that mana tide trinket.
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>>167146439
they are going to fix the chest issue in Wailing Caverns, therefore fucking up warlock summoning and completely removing the Succubus pet again. Somehow.
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>just wanted to quickly set up my bots before getting some work done
>now forced to shitpost instead
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>>167146374
>>167146339
The pack is like 35-42 for sure. Everyone's got their mounts.

Going through the first 30 levels is much much easier now compared to the first two weeks, so anyone starting now will hit zones after most people have already been through. Currently Booty Bay & Tanaris etc are pretty crazy.

Easiest example is the kolkor quest in the Barrens where only 1 person can get the flag fragment, most people skipped it yet 2 weeks ago there were still like 50+ there, now it's more like 1-5 ppl.
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>>167146420
i'd rather miss a few more times with duel welding than with 2h
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is botting allowed on elysium?
why are so many anons botting?
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>>167146470
If you ever feel compelled or forced to shitpost, you're not doing it right.
It should come third nature
>>
>>167146494
it's 1 anon desu
>>
Do they ban for fish bot?
>>
>>167146494
because there's literally no anti cheat and the only way to get caught is by being reported on the forums
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>tfw leaving out puppers next op
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>>167146523
t. australian
>>
>>167146463
What chest issue?
Ive been going trough Wailing Caverns multiple times and never noticed anything odd about them.
>>
>>167146494
>is botting allowed on elysium?
No. The problem is that their whole anti-bot operation is "submit a ticket lol via [stuck > still stuck? > STILL FUCKING STUCK] a gm will get to it eventually lol"
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>>167146523
>>167146570
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>>167146563
it was a salty dog on ely who did it
>>167141210
>>
>>167146420
> Would 2h Fury be a better option for levelling?

Yes, Fury is just really good for rage generation.
>>
>>167146420

2h fury is tried and tested the only way to go. I rerolled elysium (was a 36 zethcuck) and I've gone 2h fury both times. Def the way to go. Think I will respec arms @ 40.

DW is garbage mate don't fall for it.
>>
>>167146492
After missing sin'dall in stv until I were around 50% hp, I'm starting to dislike fury, unless that catfuck had more then usual % of dodge, had to tag it with hamstring just so it wasn't stolen by a huntard that declined invites when I tried to help and just stood there like a moron.
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>>167138982
Meanwhile I've made more friends since the beginning than I have in the five last years on retail
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>>167146480
>that Kolkar quest
Oh my fucking god
That is easily the worst quest I've ever done
>>
ITS UP
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>>167146607
>mfw all this snow in Pori today
so pretty outside
>>
>>
>>167146420
>>167146636
If you have a shaman buddy, 2h arms deals insane damage with windfury & strength of air totems. you can powerlevel very very fast
>>
>>167146690
You don't know anything about the elite ogre quest in Arathi
>need a rare drop from a specific ogr emob, the shamans
>drop rate is anus, not many shamans around
>slow respawn
>need a near full group to survive in there
>drop isn't shared, cunts will leave once they got theirs
>reward is a bad green after a long chain
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>be me, a mage
>warrior attacks me in the open world
>mfw hes alone
maybe in the next life, pal
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>>167146690
>>167146780
>the moss creeper part of the A Recipe for Death chain
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>>167146420
Fury 2h till 40 or whenever you get ww axe then arms for MS and rest in fury
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>be paladin leveling with warrior buddy
>let warrior go in first, hide behind hill or tree
>buff warrior and heal him
>mfw watching him rape a mage with my improved blessing of freedom
god this class is fun, fag enabler
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>>167146853
Mages are seriously the most fucked bullshit in this god damn game
They have at least 4 options from leaving any fight that they want to and can burst down almost anyone
It's fucking pathetic
>Polymorph doesn't have a cooldown
SUCH
FUCKING
BULLSHIT
'A;SGJFAL;SKDFJA;LSKJF
>>
>>167146021
That's actually really good. From Rank 7 you start to decay 20% every week, so now you are "practically" rank 7 but will only decay 10% next honor reset.

If you get BR1 you will get rank 9 next week.
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>>167146780
yeah i dont know what the fuck was up with that quest. we killed like 10-15 shamans 3 manning and got zero drops. then a 4th guy joined our group, got 3 in a row then 1 with no q item and the 4th guy got his from the 5th mob.
>>
>>167146365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqMFhsHnbQ

^ fuck this server
>>
>>167146934
i have been wondering, is it normal for Polymorph and Fear to have no diminishing returns?
Like was that really how it was in Retail Vanilla?
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/automated/ bros, at what level do you usually start botting? Before level 15 it seems really ineffective because you level up so quick through questing. Or is letting the bot grind still faster?
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>>167147083
I'm fairly sure they did, but I never got hit by one until at least BC.
#roguelyfe
>>
>>167147083
they do have DR, it's just that most they both last roughly 15 seconds on players, which results in

15s
7.5s
3.75s
immune

Give or take 1-2 seconds on each.
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>>167147083
>find rare dragon in Winterspring
>fear it for a whole fucking minute while two dots kill it
>get green item
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>>167145015
Anybody have any ideas?
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>>167147127
>:
>:
>: F U C K YOU
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>>167137553
ok which one of you is this
>>
why do russians end all their sentences in /?
what is this + - shit about?
>>
>>167147242
me
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>>167147134
Depends of if you want to be a playcuck until level 15 or an /automated/ bro all the way to 60.
>>
Fuking nost staff fucked up my 60 almost bis paladin. Now I don't want to play whole 60 day play time over again when all my friends got their 60s AND THIS GENERAL KEEPS POPPING... REEE
>>
>>167146323
Everything respawns on server resets, btw (rare mobs, veins, herbs, chests, and so on).
>>
can we remove pauper palls from the OP
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>>167147209
tell him that he wears a green hat
it's their way of calling each other cucks
>>
>>167147351
Remove Mandate of Heaven and Salty Dogs while we are at it
>>
I asked this a few threads ago but didn't get an answer
Does someone have an Enhancement BiS list?
>>
For those of you who bot, do you let the bot grind like 5 levels then you buy gear or do you do some quests for gear?
>>
>>167147083
how new are you?
>>
in
>>
how long will this shit be down? Think I'll go lifting instead..
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Guys why can't we just get a great TBC server with massive population like Elysium?

I just wanna be undead rogue and play arenas with my buddies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArS1w1jgKw8


It's just not fair man, not fair.
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>>167147465
It's up right now, meathead.
>>
Any way to trial or crack Zukkbot? Want to try being /automated/ but dunno if I'd handle it.
>>
>>167147490
Because there is no dedicated core for TBC like there is for Wrath and Vanilla

That is why all the TBC servers are literal shitheaps
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>>167147260
)))))
>>
fucking bulshit no herb reset
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>>167147490
>play arenas
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>>167147260
They do math while they talk, they divide, add and subtract words.
Each letter corresponds with a number like we have A is 1, B is 2 etc.
Once you decode that you have what they're actually saying to each other, they don't even understand each other, they do math and speak a made up language, no one has ever heard the actual Russian language spoken in a long time. All of that sorta carried over into writing.
Some say that buried with Stalin is the only copy left of the actual language in a readable form, passed down from generations.
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>>167147560
It has nothing to do with interest, re-read my post again
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>>167147603
im sorry
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where can i catch oily blackmouth?
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>>167147490
arena pvp is ass
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Rank 6 at level 47

Feelsgoodman :^)
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>>167147560
people hate fun i guess
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>>167146494
because the server is shit and we don't want to waste our time on it. I personally bot and sell accounts/play my main for fun (pvp and dungeons at 60 is what I find fun).
>>167146534
nah, everyone with a working brain is doing it.
>>167146537
they check for .dll injections so if it works that way then yes you'll get banned. It's stock warden protection scanning for modified game files, etc.
>>167147134
Bot level 1 to 60. Grinding is actually faster or as fast as questing 1~40. If you want to actually play go for it, I find questing boring so I don't bother to do much besides AHing and the occasional instance (get what quests you can and run it once).
>>167147517
I think occasionally he had free days but he's pretty MIA (I saw him as a volunteer in Crestfall discord though LOL). It's easy to set up and use.
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First time leveling horde 30+, any hidden quest worth knowing ? Something like ashenvale hunt giving crazy exp for killing 3 easy mobs on your way.

Druid if that matters.
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>>167147669
LIAR
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>Alchemy skill still yellow
>make 8 potions
>only level up once
Are you fucking serious
Is that even fucking possible
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>>167147757

> flying from Wetlands to SW to see what I can buy item wise

Yeah, a liar.
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>>167147725
>I personally bot and sell accounts
How much do you usually get for a 60?
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>>167147757
bruh i had that last week
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>>167147802
>>167147817
filthy cryptics, or should i say cynics, lying up a storm...hell hath no fury like a cryptic (cynic)

choose
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fem zug or male as warrior?
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>>167147162
see this is what i figured, but i find, specially with polymorph, that the DR never happens, does it only take affect if they were to keep reapply the spell in quick succession?
Any time i have ever tried to fight a mage, and start to make progress, he just blinks away and Polys me for ever, i guess i figured that the DR would apply over the course of a fight, rather than only having taken affect if the poly/fear was reapplied in quick succession.
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>>167147918
post the Li Li pictures
female zug
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Did they revert DM to blizzlike again now that chinks are vpncucked? Lashers seem to drop more grey loot again or maybe I was just lucky. But last run I got 10X more loot and at least 50g.
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Is Vindication worth taking while leveling as a Paladin, i know that once you get into raids its a no-no because of the limited Debuff slots, but i figure it might give an edge when questing and getting attacked by melee opponents.
Its either that or i do 3/5 in improved Blessing of Might.
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>>167147582

t. shitter
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>>167147994
you could read the patch notes
oh wait the website is down
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>>167148086
Vindication is one of the strongest debuffs you could give a boss, though. Along with judgement of light and wisdom
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>28k honor
>rank 4
Fuck no life NEETs. I swear I'm gonna farm 200k honor this weekend
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>>167148119
Fuck off MLG shitter. the only thing more laughable than "serious" mmo pvp is """serious""" soulsbourne pvp
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>Pickpocketing loot now persists through Pickpocketing attempts.

Fucking finally.
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>>167146636
>2h fury is tried and tested the only way to go
what is this meme?

do people unironically argue that umbridled wrath is good for leveling a 2 handed warrior?

improved rend, improved charge, improved overpower are all great.
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>>167148425
enrage has nearly 100% uptime with how often mobs crit you
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>server came up 20 minutes ago
>already 5 mages leveling at the same spot
I WANT TO PLAY I WANT TO PLAY I WANT TO PLAY I WANT TO PLAY
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>>167148503
With that sitting before fights trick they always crit you.
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>>167148503

>not sitting down to proc it whenever you want

why do you even try to give advise on warriors if you dont know the most basic trick in fury leveling?
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>>167148503
how much health is that over 6 seconds with 3 points?
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>>167148585
>>167148592
>cheating
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>>167148592
That as well, I actually forgot that but you rarely need to except maybe the start of a fight
Dont cost you much extra health anyway because regen from crits lel
>>167148618
enrage. 25% extra damage. Whenever you get crit, which you can control
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>>167148648
Yeah and going behind a mob to backstab is cheating! Or frostbolting!
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>get sick of Elysium's shit and fighting against others to complete quests, constantly dying because warrior leveling is atrocious, and everything else that isn't as fun as it was 10 years ago
>need a break
>out of nowhere decide to play on Atlantiss although I never got into Cata
>mfw I realise how Cata isn't THAT bad despite some of its flaws
>realise Blizzard actually fixed a few things within 3 expansions
>warrior is playable, new content and zones keeping me interested cause i never played it before, pace isn't too slow or too fast

Can't believe I'm saying this but thank you Elysium for reminding me why I don't want to play Vanilla anymore. I know it sounds batshit crazy low quality bait, but playing on Elysium actually made fucking Cataclysm seem attractive. Once I do all the Cata raids I'll probably even give MoP a try and do the same.

Anyway rant/story over. Have fun guys.
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>fighting a duel with another rogue
>vanish
>while improved stealth from vanish is still up the rogue runs right at me and hits me out of stealth.

well at least warlocks cant abuse the exploit to rename their pets.
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>>167148717
>trying to justify your cheating
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>>167148837
>enjoying catalysm
I am sorry about your shit taste, anon
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>>167148873
>trying to force your shitty meme
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>>167148837
Cata is literally the worst expansion, it's GW2 level bad. Nice that you can enjoy it though.
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>>167148936
/gsg/ memes are better anyway
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>not using fury dual daggers from all the dungeon quests
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>>167146420
Main hand weapon has a 5% miss chance against a target your own level. Off-hand 10%.

Against a mob 3 levels higher, 8% and 16%.

Off-hand weapons deal 50% less damage than main-hand. So even ignoring the double miss chance your off-hand weapon won't do more than 25% of your auto-hit damage, 37.5% with Dual-wield specialization.

The main benefit of dual-wielding is faster and more even rage-gain from attacking with two weapons. Especially a fast off-hand weapon combined with Unbridled Wrath will drastically change your experience from the swing-and-miss gameplay of 2-handers.
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>>167143810
Uuuuh, is there is a limit on how many times you can do this? Cant enter dungeon.
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>>167148837
Cool story dude. Cata was actually quite fun at the start because of RBGs, actually made organized bg pvp relevant again for the first time since vanilla. And yeah, warrior knockdown and the stacking all the damage CDs was pretty sick. Last time I played retail though.
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>>167149004
The thing is, I've been playing Vanilla / TBC / WOTLK non-stop for the last decade or so and eventually you need a breath of fresh air. Even if it means playing Cataclysm.

I started playing it with an "open mind" and honestly I can't see myself playing it longer than whatever it takes me to raid everything, but at least I feel like playing WoW again because there's some new shit to check out. Believe me or not, but it's a vaguely similar feeling to the first time I played WoW and it all seemed new and interesting.
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I just had a rogue melee attack me from 15-20 yards away what the fuck.
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>>167145015
I just farm bears & wolves in felwood, gives you a steady 15 gold per hour. Boring but easy enough to do while watching shit on 2nd monitor.
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>>167149207
I would almost want to roll there because I like Blood Elf Paladins (I know there are some TBC and WOTLK servers but they are all bad or shady as fuck) but I just can't stand Cata endgame.
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>>167146494
There's only one guy who's botting (And got caught yesterday) He's shilling his paid bot service to make money (Neetbux).

The same way there's only 1 guy who post Anathema PvP, followed by an anime girl, over and over and over again.

Janitors should just IP-ban them already.
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>>167145015
Sorry bro, that's one class that I don't know how to make a lot of money (I mean you can farm those birds and animals in deadwing pass but there must be something better).

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=7376/sky-shadow#drops

Usually I always have one class that can solo dungeons (right now it's my priest for DM).
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>>167149323
glyph of improved ambush
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>>167149372

the release patch raids were goat in cata tho

and overall, the start of cata was really good, challenging dungeons again, tons of new content, RBG & fine arenas

then blizz fucked everything up by nerfing everything and thinking that 2 shitty raids were enough content for the next 2 years
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>>167149516
no seriously. how common is this on this shitty server?
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>tfw ranked up from 100 HK's
holy shit its pretty much impossible not to be r5 by the time you finish stv
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I just want a fucking nice raiding guild that's hardcore, why Is it so hard to find?

Im waifus 60 orc resto shaman everything BIS
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>>167150028
You should be able to find it instantly. Good to guild discords, elysium forum etc.
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i can not wait for crestfall. i cant take this garbage anymore.
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>>167150064


Celebrity and metastatis are out of the question, not many left.
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>>167150064
go to*
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>>167146727
>chink
>doesn't know how to take screenshot

uninstall life
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>>167149867
I was rank 3 last week
Farmed 400~ kills, 28k honor
Moved up to rank 4
You're full of shit
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>>167150028
>60 orc resto shaman everything BIS
Shouldn't be too hard for you to find a good raiding guild. Run around Org, find people with BiS gear, and check their guild websites for which classes they're recruiting.

also be on all the trade/lfg/gr chat channels and
/join world
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>>167150206
Rank 1, moved to rank 2 with 70 kills (won all my WG matches).
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i hate this
i hate this so much
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So I'm currently level 50,
But honestly I'm not too excited about vanilla raids. Like, sure, I'll try to pug one every week. And hopefully my vg guild will raid (:^)), but I'm here for le ebin vanilla pvp
Are blue quality pvp items comparable to MC gear? Getting Marshal+ will be a chore...so I'm not holding my breath for that epic quality pvp gear anytime soon
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>>167150397
No pvp without pve gear in vanilla, sorry man.
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>>167150397
Not sure and it depends on the class, most of MC gear sucks for Priests for example, not sure about some other classes.
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>>167150280
Horde? Must be easier to rank up on horde currently
That, or I got cucked
I was about 90% into rank4 though, almost made it to 5
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>>167150547
Yeah, I'm getting carried hard on horde. I mean I have a priest and I feel kinda useless, there's always one other priest that will shield FC, I mostly just heal and dispell stuff.
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>>167150397
>Are blue quality pvp items comparable to MC gear?
Definitely. Unless someone's BiS you'll be able to compete easily.

Well, it does depend on the class a little - for example getting +hit gear is much easier in raids. Other than that if you're going all out aiming for say R10 gear then you should be able to pull it off in a few months without even having to join a pvp guild. Most people won't be fully geared from MC/Ony for AT LEAST a few months.

>Getting Marshal+ will be a nightmare
ftfy
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>>167150651
Eh, I play resto Druid
I'll def try to raid though — Most of MoH is eurocucks though, I might have to find a normie guild...
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>>167150772
>I might have to find a normie guild...
I'd wholeheartedly recommend doing that.

>resto Druid
Had the be one of the few classes I'm not familiar with the gear of...

At least you'll have an easy time flag carrying in WSG.
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>>167150772
Join MAGA, they are a normie progression guild on ally, not sure if active on fresh servers though.
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when creating a ticket, which section is for reporting botters?
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>>167151595
It doesn't matter but you need some proof like some video of them botting.
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>>167151725
what are some sure signs of a bot?
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Join <Salty Dogs> On Horde. Lvl req lvl 10
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>>167151754
They act stupid like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAO3OnT2R78

Basically slowly tagging and fighting mobs with weird pauses inbetween, they act a bit worse than escort quest mobs.
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>>167151754
>Proving somoene is a bot
In a slow paced game where everybody does the best damage/mana efficient gimmick to kill mobs over and over again?
Just started botting and can tell you it's gonna be hard.
There is an answer tho but as you are an assmad cuck I won't tell you.
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>>167151857
Even better one, skip to 1:15
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>>167151952
Forgot the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK_ow9GebNg
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>>167146683
>making online """friends"""
>meanwhile back during retail vanilla, WoW players were social pariahs precisely because of this
This is how TRUE retail bull spots youngling who never played the actual shit. There was legitimate social stigma of being a WoW player.
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>>167148837
MoP actually has good encounters, but the raids tiers lasted too long and the actual raids are giant linear slogs with too much trash

also class balance was fucking awful with destro and affliction both doing nearly twice the damage of the average dps spec, 2-3 others that were amazing like enh, and then a grab bag of specs that all did about the same
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>ITT butthurt playcucks mad at the superior /automated/ lifestyle. Sure feels comfy getting to 60 with 0 effort.
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>>167152221
I'm talking about the beginning of Elysium
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Holy shit i love Elysium!
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>>167152358
>>167149431

Glad you b& yesterday.

Remember we know it's you, filename fag.
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>>167152221
what the fuck are u blabbering about i made 6 good friends irl during vanilla and i'm still in contact with 5 of them, also 2 got married and i went to the wedding.
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>>167152683
....and you're still a retarded dweeb who has to make friends online, who is STILL playing a 14 years old outdated game. Congratulations, you obviously won in life.
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>retail had 2.5k pop limit

is there a source on this?
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>>167152828
Every game that doesn't have instant gratification is outdated, I'll keep playing vanilla (though I hope for some good TBC server), HOMMIII, Stronghold and other outdated games rather than new Sjw shit like retail Wow, GW2 or anything Bioware/Ubisfot are making these days.
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>>167152881
There is no source as blizzard never disclosed the actual pop limit. It's just a very popular estimate and the one most people who actually played on high/full servers in vanilla consider to be closest to correct.
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>>167152571
Are you talking about that guy who was in the /vg/ guild? I'm not him, nor have I been banned :^)
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>>167152881
It didn't have pop limit IIRC but most servers had similar population naturally, literally no need for more with cross-realm PvP.
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>>167153026
wow is the mmo that started the trend of casual instant gratification though
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>>167141150
you cheated
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>>167153275
Yeah but not in vanilla, in fact I liked GW more because WoW was too grindy to get to the good stuff (and PvP should be based around skill not gear).
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Got my first character to level 32 priest but i barely have 14 gold and i really want to get a mount.
Is there anyway to make money? I feel like too far behind to take up cooking or skinning..
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>>167153390
Farm elementals like everyone once you are 40 or get alt with skinning and grind mobs with him while he is rested and level him up. Elemental farming is much faster (you will get 80g in 15 hours or so).
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>>167153358
no, exactly in vanilla

you've never played a non-casual mmo
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>>167153523
I played Guild Wars and tell me how is vanilla instant gratification. Try to use actual words and not memes.
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>it's a 5 ud mages in wsg episode
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>>167153496
The Rock elementals in Bad Lands?
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>>167153358
>Yeah but not in vanilla,
Retard.
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>>167153631
Nice argument, and your age is showing.

>>167153630
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?npc=92#comments

Yeah, those guys. Just sell all the loot at vendor.
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>>167153390
If you stop spending money on stupid shit, you could probably make it to like 80g by 40.
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More and more shitters that can't handle Vanilla grind leave every day

Soon Ely won't even breach 10k during prime time, and Zeth won't break 5k.

Do you still think they want it? Because they don't.
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>>167153846
>mfw people claim that it's impossible to get enough gold for a mount by L40
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Thunderfury

More like tHUNTERfury amirite

melee hunter is best dps
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>>167153275
Not really vanilla, it was already starting to get widespread in MMOs. Vanilla mostly started the trend of quest-oriented MMO where you could do your 1 to max mostly in solo, other MMO took that to the extreme and you could get to max without grouping a single time without missing much (Warhammer Online for example had only one dungeon that wasn't for level max, at least it had a hidden one and several hidden bosses).
Getting the full PvP set and progression raids where you needed to farm the mats for your consumables for like double the amount of time you actually raided.
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>>167153390
And stop buying all the spells, buy only those you need and you will downrank as a priest anyway. When you reach 60 and DM is out you will farm it and be rich and then buy all the others.
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>>167154016
>you needed to farm the mats for your consumables for like double the amount of time you actually raided
Is that a bad thing?
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>>167153923

tfw 225 engineering and mining + 120g at level 40

living the /automated/ dream
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>>167154093
>make it to L50
>get banned
>have to start over
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>>167153565
Let's see. I'm playing a level 40 warrior in EQ. It is impossible for me to solo any monster that gives reasonable exp, even if I can I would only be able to bandage up to 50% HP and have to sit for 15+ minutes to regen the rest of it. If I die I will lose multiple hours worth of exp or even my current level and might have to spend an hour running back to my corpse (naked) and risking even more exp lose or might have to get people to help me retrieve my corpse so I don't lose all of my items. My only hope is to go to one of the two high level (non-instanced) dungeons and try to find a spot in a group in one of the rooms, which might take hours itself.

I'm playing a level 50 warrior in WoW. If I want to level there are quests everywhere guiding me around and it takes 1/10th of the time to level. Soloing is not really difficult as long as you play smart. Bandaging myself only takes a few seconds (and works above half health) and I can just eat food to recover all of my HP in 15 seconds. If I happen to die I lose nothing more than maybe 10s from repairs and a 5 minute corpse walk where nothing can hurt me.

Amazing. It is like one of these experiences is designed so it is impossible to fail backwards, gives you constant rewards for minimal effort, and holds your hand all of the way and the other is completely the opposite.
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MILKMAID IS A SEXY AND GOOD TANK!
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>>167154091
It's not, it was just to show that unlike what the other poster said, vanilla WoW was still pretty far from instant gratification if you wanted things that weren't blues.
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>>167154091
YES

Having a second job during the week farming mats just so you could have a go at the actual content during the weekend was the WORST part of Vanilla, by far.

If you think otherwise then you should value your time more.
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how are shamans in vanilla?
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>>167154228
You don't really need consumables until like AQ anyway. It's just that guilds like to take people who play more.

>>167154183
xp loss on death would be a shit game mechanic.
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>>167154183
Seems like one game has shit ton of artificial difficulty and shit pacing while other has great pacing and actually rewards people who train first aid so it's not shit and has quests to not make game boring. If you are really complaining about leveling speed of 50+ that it's too fast, sorry but you need some help. Also what do you think about PvP rank leveling, you just do some quests to get from 10 to 11?
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>>167154162

jokes on you, im either selling them at 40 or level manually from there. 1-40 is the most boring part of the game. i eat playcucks like you for breakfast in stv with my iron grenades and net-o-matics kiddo
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>>167154294
"play" is a generous term for what farming mats from world mobs is.

"unecessary tedium" would be a better one.
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>>167154278
If you like healing in raids, very fun but they have worst sets of quests for totems ever created in MMO history and that's saying something. Msot people level in enchancment spec and it's very RNG.
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>>167154317
>selling them at 40 or level manually from there
So you're only botting the first 2/5ths of leveling? That makes no sense to me at all. Well whatever. You do you.

>i eat playcucks like you for breakfast in stv
>implying I'm not already level 60
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>>167154405

You know what makes no sense? Being a playcuck on a private server of a 20 year old game.
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>>167154452
Why would I ever play EQ?
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>>167154486
Because you may be autistic like those people who play Wizardry because all other RPGs are casual compared to it!
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>>167154162

Already botted several 60s on Elysium and I know of many others that have as well. You're like a child in denial: "s-s-s-surely my slav overlord admins are competent enough to ban the botters r-r-right???? s-surely I haven't wasted 2 weeks of my life leveling on a dead private server"
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>tfw no fat hairy wow gf to green card marry
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>played 4h of bgs with 300 kills
>standing in 400
Fucking really? I guess I'm going for r14 now.
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>running through a cave with a bunch of aggressive monsters
>constantly dazed and slowly dying
>there is an alliance hunter with me
>basically one is ahead and aggroing mobs then falling behind
>nearly out and really low on hp
>hunter kills me

I don't know if he was trying to be a dick or if I should be thankful for him saving me the repair cost because I was probably going to die anyways.
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I JUST GOT BANNED

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>167153094
>it didn't have pop limit

where do you think the queue system came from? lmao
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>>167154969
>where do you think the queue system came from? lmao

In real life, probably in some bank or court.
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>>167154926
get rekt botter shitter
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>>167154926
dont buy gold then
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>>167155062
>>167155052
DIDNT BUY GOLD AND DIDNT BOT


FUCK YOU SLAV SHITTERS REEEE
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>>167155094
If only there was some authorization thing to prevent these things....
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Is demo any fun or just a dull gimmick spec?
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Some horde nigger passerby takes you into target.
Whats your course of action.
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For frost, is the extra range worth it?

Doesn't seem like it to me.
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>>167155191
/wave at my fellow horde!
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is zethkur dead??
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>>167155446
It's literally perfect.
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>>167155387
>more distance between you and mobs you're farming
>not worth it
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HOW DO I BOT
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>>167155651
Seems redundant when you already have a slow and can kite.
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>Ally lvl 60 gank party been patrolling WPL for hours

Now THIS is autism
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wew lad
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>swe group
>talks in runes
How exactly is this any better than chinks or slavs?
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>>167155710
fuckOFF grimner
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>>167155651
Mages are so broken it doesn't really matter for them, they will never die, even if they are fighting a mob and getting ganked at the same time, extra range is nice but not that important. I don't play with a mage so maybe I'm full of shit though.
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>>167155770
>Mages
>the most paper-thin hp of any class
>will never die
What drugs are you on.
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>>167155720
Do they camp nodes 24/7 and inflate whole market? Do they give piece of profit to GMs? Are dungeons non-blizzlike because of them?
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>>167154452
You know what makes no sense? Playing Game.
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>>167155970
>the most paper-thin hp of any class

Yeah, if only they didn't have huge shield, couple of best cc in the game and great escape ability in the game.
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>>167155976
>Are dungeons non-blizzlike because of them?
The only change was to DM:N and that was merely because the mods passionately hate hunters. Nothing to do with chinks. DM:N farming isn't even any more profitable than BRD farming with mages.
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>>167156116
Hunters are a bunch of niggers, no wonder
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>>167156116
Makes no sense to nerf lasher loot if they hate hunters, lashers are primary source of income for healing classes who can't do other mobs there.
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>hit 60
>get pre raid bis
>hate vanilla

BC FUCKING WHEN
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>>167156818
2021 on crestfall
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>There are guilds that do MC in more than and hour and a half
>There are guilds that do ZG in more than an hour and a half

>There are guilds that take more than 3 hours to complete both

How do you make them that long?
Do you have to explain the fights everytime?
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>>167156818
soon on hellground senpai
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>>167157386
imps and corehounds are hard
also a wipe takes a long time to recover
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>>167154220
:3 <333
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>>167157386
Explaining, wipes and often raids won't have 40 people and sometimes they will take noobs to fill the positions who are in their green gear.
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>>167156145

This guy gets it.
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>>167156197
They made DM:E farming slightly worse. They made DM:N farming literally impossible. There's a difference.

Mages win either way.

>>167157386
>Do you have to explain the fights everytime?
If you don't have a full guild run where everyone knows that everyone else knows the strats, then yes.

>>167157480
>imps and corehounds are hard
Imps will cause a wipe if they're pulled at a bad time as often happens in pugs, but they're not that difficult otherwise. Corehounds are easy. Face away from raid, done.
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>>167157734
You really haven't done MC if you think corehounds are 'face away from the raid, done'.
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>>167157734
And they nerfed it because 1000 Chinks were doing them 24/7.
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QUICK

NAME THAT PLAYER YOU HAVE A SECRET CRUSH ON

o-oathbark!
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>>167157941
M i l k m a i d
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How many AVs to get to honored rep?
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>>167157941
Hyunjoo is was (rip) the best April
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>>167157941

Don't tell anyone! Okay?

Lumikaru
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>>167158059
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>>167157847
>corehounds
Wait, are we talking about the lone mobs, or the packs you burst down at the same time?

Because either way they're FUCKING EASY.

Even Fire lords are harder, and they're just 'burst down the spawn'.
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>>167157941
Pharoah
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>>167157941
Me
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>>167157941
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>>167157941
I realy like [samefag]!
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>>167157941
(You)
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>>167157941
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking asian whore. You need another nuke for those alien eyes you gook bitch?
>>
>I have a monopoly of a rare, hard to find recipe that produces high value items

So that is what being a jew feels like.
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>LF2M tank and healer Uldaman
>join
>two level 40 male NE warriors
>"y u leave"
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Why aren't wow players be comfy like these guys nowadays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMgjO_TVv_I
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>>167159201
>LF1M healer
>join
>paladin
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https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/35879-server-death-spam-on-anathema/
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ok i want to give vanilla a try but i don't know what class to pick

what's the funnest class ? i don't want to get bored of it at level 30
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>>167159530
>what's the funnest class ?

Litteraly subjective and depends on what you prefer, PvE or PvP, tanking, healing or dps, melee or ranged combat etc.
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Anathema...
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>take a 4 hour nap
>come back and overleveled chinese guy is still there farming away
>after already being there 4 hours
they.... they do sleep right?
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>>167159775
Nope, they share accounts and other cartel member will pick it up when first one gets tired or dies.
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>>167159614
mostly pve

i dunno what i prefer something that as a bit of intricacy to it
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>>167159835
why dont they get banned?
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>>167150127
I'm in celebrity, we have so many dead bodies that won't last. If you aren't shit and actually play the game you can get in.
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>>167159530
90% of classes get really good by 30, Fel Hunter, Windfudy, Kidney Shot, Portals, Whirlwind Axe, Mind Control etc
If you haven't fallen in love with your class by 30 git gud or re-roll.
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>>167159910
Account sharing is hard to prove and rarely banned anywhere. Other reason is cartels give a piece of profit to GMs, that's why GMs literally begged Chinese government to remove VPM restriction on elysium forum.
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>>167159835
reeeeeee this is so fucking gay i fucking hate this when is it going to be my turn to play fucking fuck fuck fuck
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+++ BREAKING +++

HELLGROUND LAUNCH AT 05. MARCH!

+++ BREAKING +++
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>>167160059
It will have what, 500 people at peak?
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>>167160059
DOA
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>>167159436
the reason why that should slide is that there is almost always going to be a mage and/or warlock in the group, which makes it difficult to gear up as a healing paladin.
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>average Anathema players
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>>167160001
>Whirlwind Axe,

Whats so great about that it's just a weapon.
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>>167159910
>>why dont they get banned?

anon ... i ....
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>average Anathema players
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>>167160236
it's a level like 42 weapon that you can get at level 30. You cut through 30-40 like it's nothing.
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>average Anathema players
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>>167160376

>>167160195 is a lot more accurate
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>>167160236
It's such a good weapon that it'll get you to 60 as a warrior.

desu though warriors start to pick up a little around then just because of their talents alone anyway. Shame there's almost no +hit gear pre-60.
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>average Anathema player
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>>167090584
Why do these fags even exist in the first place? I don't know if placeholder was a worse guild than Zeth Salty Dogs or not, but damn it's close.
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>average Anathema player
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http://webm.land/media/ZiEP.webm
I am quitting. They claimed they fixed it, but that's a lie. I cant handle this shit.
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>>167160814
>walk into a mobs face
>it notices you
Did you only stop botting 5 mins ago or something? Most rogues learn to avoid being that retarded by L10 at the latest.
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>>167160891
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>>167160917
>didn't know that vanish gives you 200+ stealth levels making you undetectable even by 60s
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>>167161032
oi ya fackin poof
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>>167161039
>average Anathema baiter
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>>167160814
They just fixed pickpocketing, it will take a while until they fix that.
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>>167161129
cheers m8
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>>167161228
Its fine, but check this. I was happy like a child and wanted to show all that our beloved Elysium devs are trying really hard for our great player experiance. But I got dijadijad fucking butthurt.

From https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/35854-development-update-01022017/
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>>167160574
>posting your guild ad in /mmog/ because nobody wants you in /elyg/
absolutely pathetic
>>
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/35876-bg-dodging/

In today's episode of FINLAND FIRST, our valiant hero, defender of social justice and all races on the outer edges of the color wheel, Port-a-Pottu, bans random people who give up against premades in AB instead of just running into them and dying over and over again and calls it "dodging" to make it sound sinister to everyone who doesn't know what PvP even is.

>If you cannot be bothered to actually fight in the battlegrounds, then do not join them.

Brought to you by the author of "WHY DO YOU TALK IN BGS NO ONE CAN ORGANIZE PUGS YOU STUPID WHITE MALE":

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/29241-receiving-mutes-all-the-time/
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i give up
enjoy having xiao call in his buddies on the opposite faction to camp you because you're cutting into his profits
as long as these people exist there will never be a good game again
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>>167161708
>server is literally sjw chink money spamm badly scripted mess
>still no real competition

Crestfall needs to happen ASAP
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>>167161708
So you'd prefer to have people in your BG who just give up or go afk after the other team captures 1 flag?
He's right though. don't fucking join if you're just gonna leave after a losing lead
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>>167160814

I ve complained about stitches being insanely broken in several tickets, the tickets are always changed to "Resolved", no dev comment and nothing changes.
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>>167161940
Latest patch notes say it's fixed.
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Who do I need to whisper to join Mandate of Heaven? I've tried 3 different people and got no answer. I just want to wear a cool tabard.
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>>167162053
Sub Rogue for sure. Don't forget to learn Vanish:)
You'll be pleasantly surprised.
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>>167147490
>tfw never going to play on a decent TBC serv and be a qt female belf rogue
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>>167162053
>avatarfagging
>tripcode
>anime
>hello.gif
>asking stupid questions
>not killing yourself
This is a really good start, dude. You're going to fit right in here.
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>>167162053
>What's a good class?
Depends on what you want to do.

>I wanna level FAST
Hunter (also Warlock, but they're boring, but at least they get invited to raids)

>I wanna be the best raider ever!
Warrior

>我想要農場
Mage

>I want to always be wanted
Dwarf Priest

>I want to do a bit of everything but I like healing
Druid (/arguably also Shaman)
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>>167160814
is this ui from 2003
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>>167144118
>gouge then backstab
http://webm.land/media/bIrG.webm
Hue.
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>>167162348
Diablo, you know. Also reduced resolution because of shitty PC.
>>
Elysium and Zeth are having mantaince tonight to replace the rare PvP set that was erroneously updated

3-5 hr
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>>167162559
related
>>
anyone using updated models? does it get you banned?
>>
Can someone explain to me why Plated Armorfish is 25g on Anathema? Did they remove it or something?
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>Anathema players
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>>167163290
>updated models

kill yourself
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>>167163431
>implying they're not an objective improvement
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>>167163541
DUDE PIXAR LMAOO
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HOW does this make sense me on the fucking RIGHT
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>>167163656
git gud scrub
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>>167163656
you were ahead of the pack
now you're not
simple
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>>167163656
cute
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>>167163656
There's a hidden cap on honor depending on what rank you're currently at, no matter how far ahead in honor you are from the rest of the faction, you'll never get from rank 1 to 14 in a single week because of that.
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>>167164637
is there any way you can figure out how much honor is needed for your weekly +2 ranks? Holy fuck I dont want to do 3 extra days of bgs only to find out that i gain absolutely nothing from it
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>>167162060
>want to wear a cool tabard

You're joining the wrong guild. Whoever designed MoH's should be gassed.
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Im sending random messages to people i dont know pretending like i do know them just for laughs and i am actaully making friends.
Is this how all friends are made on MMORPGs?
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>>167162060
>>167164897
To be fair, Salty Dogs has always had the best tabard in these vanilla threads, but they're not Alliance (or raiding)
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Does pupper pals still need rogues?
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got him
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>>167163656
thats what you get for playin alliance

enjoying my comfy 2 set bonus here
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>>167164943
Not for me.
>join a guild
>raid with people (optional step)
>get to know a few of them well
>help them out with stuff
>get them to help me out with stuff
>suddenly we're friends
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>>167164943
Yes! You are correct.
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>>167165415
>a horde person
>thats what you get for playin alliance
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>>167165554
yep, we all agreed a while back that 95% of horde players are retarded

pay him no mind he doesn't realize what he's saying
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>>167165392
Oh my fucking god. Totally demolished. Entirely obliterated. How can one guild be so thoroughly annihilated? Will Mandate faggots ever recover from this utter humiliation?
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>>167161708
>>167161817
>>167161838
No Chinamen were banned in the process.
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>>167165637
have fun farming 2x the amount of honor lmao
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>she isn't playing Anathema and cuteposting 3-4 times per leveling session
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>>167165452
Shut up, slut.
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>>167166410
Turns out it was actually a He
Sorry bud.
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>>167166410
>leveling on a raaidlog server

No thanks
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>>167165986
i am horde though
>>
I'm 53, what order do I do:

Felwood
Winterspring
Un'goro
PL
Aschazarara
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>>167166580
>getting to 53 without a questing addon
a literal god tasteless
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>>167166410
>she isn't bullying people on Elysium while cute-posting on several boards
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>>167166787
I tried to but it is like oh just grind on these easy mobs for 3 levels and it means these things that are 5 levels over you that are easy for hunters and certainly not a fucking warrior. Into the trash it went.
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>>167166787
VanillaGuide is BC ironically.
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>>167166580
>what order
The same order you followed in all the previous zones.

Go into a zone.
Do everything up to your level.
Go into the 2nd zone.
Do the same.
Go back to the 1st zone.
Repeat.
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>>167166994
you can grind on literally anything your level
there is no good mobs or bad mobs, they all give xp, they all have rng drop tables
unless you're a mage, then you can only grind in one spot that has xiao camping it with his buddies for 22 hours a day
and if you grind at a mage spot as a non mage you need to quit the game
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>>167166580
>I'm 53, what order

>Aschazarara
>Felwood
>Un'goro
>Winterspring
BURNING STEPPES
>Felwood
SILITHUS
>PL
>Winterspring
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HELP!

Alrighty so, my friends lied to me about being able to learn the teleport to Moonglade spell in Stormwind, so now that I'm 10 I can't learn bear form here

Could someone please PLEASE give me a portal to Darn? I've been asking around for so long but no one wants to do it for the amount of money my little druid has :(
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>>167166421
>>
if you're having fun that means xiao is losing profits
stop having fun! stop now! xiao has a family to feed!
>>
Why would you need a questing addon?
Figuring out what you're supposed to do and how is the whole point of the game in the first place.
With characters you level after the first one, you already know where everything is and how it works, so you again don't need an addon.
Do you have brain damage?
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>>167167792
>is a night elf
>doesn't level in teldrassil and darkshore
You deserve the suffering of having to run back you fool.
>>
>enemy warrior at 10% hp
>poly him to heal him to full
>/cheer
>he kills me
hmmm
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>>167167883
All my friends were leveling in Elwynn, so I went there instead.
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>>167167492
>it is so hard being a mage
>we get priority on grind spots because we have such a hard life
>there was this one time a mob shot me with arrows while i was trying to kill it, i nearly cried
>>
>>167167965
Two things could have happened here.
Either you're alliance and you're a bad person for not killed the hordescum.
Or you're horde and he's a good person for killing hordescum by default.

Either way, it's your fault.
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>>167167872
Why would you play a game with all of the handholding that WoW does if you enjoy the joy of trying to figure out where you are supposed to go?
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>she isn't being my boyfriend on Anathema right now
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>>167168048
>trannies and midgets lash out on a chinese imageboard

wuz u kangz n' sheeit little alliance cucks?
>>
>got remorseless attacks
>see a 50% mage
>ambush on all bars
>FIRE UP THE BASS CANON
>miss
>mage didn't even notice you
>>
>>167168206
Because I played all the other games like that I intend to play and friends called me over to play nost with them.
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>>167168007
you can kill literally anything though, if anything mage spots are harder because mobs are always grouped up
tell me a mage spot you want to farm at and i'll name 10 better and easier spots for every class but mage

and yes it is hard, mage spots are unplayable right now. they can support one, MAYBE two mages. and yet theres consistently 5 at each, plus idiotic hunters and lazy botters. you spend more time jerking off on a hill waiting for a respawn then actually playing the game. thats IF xiao lets you, because he can easily call in his opposite faction hit squad to come camp you if you get uppity.
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JUST TELL ME ON WHICH SERVER TO PLAY
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>>167168249
Go back to your yiffcave furfag.
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>>167168349
THEY DO KEEP TELLING YOU
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>>167168319
You are not supposed to farm in the open world, you farm in instances where nobody can interrupt you.
>>
>>167168349
All of them are good for different things.
>>
>>167168349
zeth, horde
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>>167168503
i meant for leveling
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>>167167792
Willing to do anything at this point for a port to Darn, I'm in Ironforge currently


plz hlp ;_;
>>
>>167168349
This: >>167168675 is the only objectively wrong answer.
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>>167168319
If you're having so much trouble with these people, make an opposite faction character and kill them repeatedly.

If you force them to keep coming back to protect their farmers, they will get pissed off and their profits will go to shit.
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>>167168349
There is always one server that nobody mentions, they're too scared actually...

PVE, the queen of lewd!
>>
Reminder that you have a year or so to gear up your character, buy him epic mount and sell it for big $$ and then just go to Crestfall.
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>>167168758
It's not much different.
All the servers are high pop, finding groups for your level-appropriate instances is easy as fuck because of how many people there are everywhere.
If you're lvl 30, run gnomer until you're high level enough to move on to something else. Or whatever instance you feel like doing.
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>>167168806
Nope, Zeth is perfect, nobody is camping nodes and it has Crestfall population.
>>
>>167168834
i cant even get to 60 on the class i want to play, so...
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>>167168976
>it has Crestfall population.

So like...10 people?
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>>167168949
have you actually grinded a full level doing dungeons? how long would 30-31 take, for example?
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>>167169031
Anon, sorry to inform you of this but you are incompetent.
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How much value does +damage have? Which would you use as a fire mage?
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>>167167792
>>167168795

Never mind, thank you to the nice mage on here who gave me a free portal, you're the best!! <33
>>
>>167169128
Yes, 2/day is reasonable unless you pick up retarded groups. Doing level appropriate instances hands out decent XP, especially the first one or two times when you turn in quests.

The downside of playing on very high pop servers is that you don't get to have the whole thing to yourself and people have to compete for limited resources.
Instances are unlimited, however, so you can grind them all you want. Also, the upside of high pop servers is that it's super easy to find groups for anything at all.
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>>167169248
>L24
Just get int sta and spi, you're leveling.

>>167168349
Anathema.

Elysium if you want MAX POP

Zeth if you want a fresh you can level on

Darrow if the thought of being ganked makes you vomit.
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>>167168976
>crestfall population
This is the new fallback meme for Zethcucks. I think "That's how it was in Vanilla!" was actually the first real /nosg/ meme, and you're parroting it 2 years later still.
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>>167169271
I tried to kill babymetal once but >paladin
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>>167169248
I wouldnt be leveling as a fire mage becuase im not retarded
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>>167169154
is it possible you're some /ahead of the pack/ guy trying to comment on how easy it is to level?

because kek if so, just kek.
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>>167169473
Have you considered not being shit at a 12 year old game?
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>>167169428
i dont think resources are so limited that grinding dungeons is better though.

30-31 takes an hour and a half of grinding on anything. 2 hours if you're slow.

i'm pretty sure dungeons are twice as slow as that, plus the waiting around for groups. even though its probably less frustrating.
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>>167169442
I'm 37, it's just that there haven't been any better robes than those.
>>167169464
Shut up faggot, Frost is boring as hell.
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>>167169473
>not being /automated/

loling @ u
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Ding.
Congrats on youew new patch today that appears to of fixed alot of issues. Hope you all are happy!
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>>167169687
>Frost is boring as hell.

EVERY spec is boring as hell, you spam one button as almost every single class, it's vanilla WoW there are no complicated/fun specs
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im thinking of rolling zethkur alliance and joining the guild
if i join what people in there should i avoid? looking for insider info here
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>>167169636
i'm not cut out for leveling man. every expansion i've played i'm the last in my guild to reach cap. it is not enjoyable to me, at all.

also, 1v1 me fagget. you wouldn't be the first horde to talk down to me and walk away with his face in the dirt.
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>>167169338
lucky, every mage I talk to wants an ungodly amount of money for a simple port, asked a mage today in IF for a portal to Darn, he wanted 3 FUCKING GOLD for it

Eventually found a mage willing to do it for 50 silver, people are greedy as fuck here.
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Can I have some names of single people on Anathema please?
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>>167169753
>he doesn't know about fury
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>>167170002
>He didn't realize he said "almost every"
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>>167169716
Reminder that this person has actual honest genuine legitimate non-ironic non-meme non-buzzword non-insult non-4chan I'm-not-trying-to-hurt-your-feelings seriously-I-mean-the-real-disorder autism. Kill yourself Grimone.
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>>167169462
Nice memes, try to make one argument why population on Zeth is bad using actual words.
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>>167169687
>JUST GET INT STA AND SPI YOU'RE LEVELING

Until you're getting prebis it's a waste of time.

>>167169753
>it's vanilla WoW there are no complicated/fun specs
For mage and mage only.
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>>167169753
Fire has three different spells to use for different situations, frost has one. Also has crit %, ignite, 41yd range, a second instant aoe cc. Have fun casting frostbolt over and over.
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Can any bro here help me out with a portal from IF to Darnassus?

I can only tip 10 silver because this is a new character, but any help would be great.
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>>167170125
WHOA, 3?! AS IN THREE DIFFERENT BUTTONS TO PRESS?!


OH MAN! THAT'S LIKE...NONSTOP ACTION!!!11
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why can sweeping strikes be dodged and why doesn't that trigger overpower?
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>>167170380
Hey man at least it's more than just one. Both frost and fire are mana inefficient, fire is just a little worse at the upside of more damage and better burst. Either spec you're gonna be wanding half the time anyway.
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>dinged 60 with almost 10d played as warrior
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>Gizelton Caravan now works, thus allowing you to complete quests 'Gizelton Caravan', 'Bodyguard For Hire'.

!
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>>167146120
>Is leveling on Elysium okay now?
No.
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>>167170062
YEah alright cunt.
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WHY is there no /vg/ alliance darrowshire guild?
I rerolled there after I.realized how pvp.servers are literal cancer and world pvp makes the game.unplayable.

It took.me about 40.hours to.get to mid 20s on my.troll, now.im already back up to level 19 on my human.warlock after 4 days, and I haven't been ganked, then spawn camped ONCE
You.faggots dealing with gank squads are the real cucks
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>>167170963
Because its PvE
Nobody likes PvE servers
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What is better for Rouges, a slow or a fast offhand ?
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>>167146120
No, overpopulation is still a pain in the nuts, the first 30 levels are a total fucking nightmare

And may God have mercy on your soul when you're forced into STV, you can't take 2 steps without being ganked and camped by a group of 60s.
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>>167170963
PVE is just flat out boring, sure being ganked is annoying when trying to level, but when you're 60 going up against other 60s or ganking lowbies, it makes it all worth it

When I hit 60 on my Rogue I plan on just camping noobs in redridge.
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>>167171113
fast
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>>167171102
>I Dont play to do battlegrounds, or raid
>I play to unfairly kill other players 10 levels lower than me
>im a NEET whose time is literally worthless
Just kys already
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>>167171208
t. Zethcuck

lvl 45, just got done with STV an hour ago, never seen any 60s there.
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>>167171448
Thanks.
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>>167170963
>now.im already back up to level 19 on my human.warlock after 4 days
pvefags everyone
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>>167170963
faggot
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>>167171420
See >>167171507
Then kill yourself
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What do you guys think of skinning/enchanting as leveling rogue professions?
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>>167171886
>i want to play WoW
>but i dont want to play WoW
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>>167171507
>he unironically plays vanilla for the raids and bgs
Cant make this shit up.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/about/moderators

They now removed everyone except Shenna, Jesus Christ what the fuck is going on.
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>>167172291
We warned you.

See you on Poleground.
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>few levels until lvl 40
>already have 110g

poorfags baka
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>>167172291
the end is near
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>>167172291
DRAIN

THE

SWAMP
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>>167172291
>people actually leveling to 60 without botting on a server that's already completely falling apart within 3 weeks
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>>167172291
S L A V S U P E R M A C Y
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>get Stoneslayer
>half of my swings proc Seal of Command
I am now a WARRIOR OF LIGHT!
Run in shame, evildoers!
Be vanquished, villains!
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>>167172635
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>>167172291
they were warned
they drowned it out
they didn't listen
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why are you so obsessed and almost hopeful that the server youre playing on dies
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>>167173646
It's just one Crestfall shill samefagging. Ignore him.
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Hey guys have you heard about Elysiums Two factor authentication ? That Plus Changing your password regularly will help keep your account secure.
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>Be me in Blackfathom Depths
>Be group leader and tank
>Tell people to let me start pulls
>Tell mage I will light the braziers
>I light one...
>He then lights another one and we wipe

What the fuck where do all these shitters come from?
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>>167173812
I know exactly what you meand and for some reason, it's always the gnome mage.

I've started to just refuse to tank for them when they pull and let them die. So far, only one has learned the lesson.
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>>167173646
Personally because I hate server GMs and better servers are just around the corner. Elysium is good only for botting (I'm not doing it but it would be smart). GM crying against Chinese VPM is funniest thing to happen in a long time, they are not even trying to hide anything, they know they are on a short timer.
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Awoonathema news report soon
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>>167174061
t. Ghostly a.k.a. The Crestshill
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>>167174061
VPN*
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>>167174042
Undead female, this time.

On another topic, anyone notice those Kor Kron spergs constantly trying to wPvP and fail miserably?
I don't know why they even try.
They have 3 guilds and constantly they get btfo.
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>>167174151
I would gladly shill for Crestfall and everyone will soon enough anyway.
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>>167173646
Because people left a perfect vanilla server for this one because Nostalrius literally chose the most incompetent team they could find so the project would die without an uproar against Blizzard.

Kronos was the best vanilla server and best private server that has ever been released and we aren't playing there because Nost literally baited people into playing on a server ran by literal retards. Everyone who has been around the private server scene for more than a hot minute knows how retarded Valkyrie are. We've watched them fumble, lie, steal, and exploit their players and only pump out shit script after shit script for 8 fucking years.

The only reason anyone is playing on this server is because you guys are all retail babby newfags who never had to experience incompetent private servers devs and their sketchy behavior.

Kronos was the only server that was seemingly professional. There was no bullshit about how that server worked. They made money off of shop sales for aesthetic items like mounts and the character trading system. They banned all chinks and instead just took the character trading market into their own hands and made it seamless. You may not like this but it created a server where there was no bullshit sketchy backwater scummy shit going on in the background. The scripts weren't perfect but they are miles better than anything fucking VALKYRIE has pumped out. The quest scripting on Kronos was fucking brilliant. It had virtually all of the quests completely working while Valk/Nost still don't have the warrior undead level 10 quest scripted yet LOL.

Pathing was a problem on Kronos but fuck me if that's the most glaring problem it has than it's still 90000 times better than Valkyries epic stock mangos core.

Reminder that we literally left a perfect server for one that literally doesn't even have a basic anti-cheat working.

Just kidding none of you left Kronos because you are all babbies first private server fags
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>>167174305
t. butthurt Kronos dev
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>>167174305
>There was no bullshit about how that server worked. They made money off of shop sales for aesthetic items like mounts and the character trading system

That's why people don't play there, they should remove ALL pay2win shit and would make a character there instantly. Their scripting is really good, has to be said.
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>>167174305
Kronos was objectively worse than Nostalrius.
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>my exams are still going on
>wanted to just wait for the pack to move forward and join when I have some free time
>Now read that the server won't make it untill then possibly
Fuck mates, is that some doomsday-caller bullshit or are we going down? I wanted to play.
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I know youre only level 16 but you should be atleast 2 bars from level 18 by now.
Grind out the rest if you are not.
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>>167174527
Kronos was worse than Nostalrius but better than Elysium.
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>>167174479
No, they should not remove """""""pay2win""""""" shit. The character trade was not pay2win. It has existed in WoW since the beginning of time. All they did was decide to take a system that is going to happen no matter what and steal it from the chinks. Characters aren't being generated by the system. The characters have to be manually leveled then sold/traded. It keeps people playing that would have otherwise quit because they leveled a class they ended up not liking or they wanted to play with friends that were on the opposing faction.

The only thing I think they should remove are the mounts from opposing factions being purchasable, that erks me quite a bit.

>>167174527
No it was not. The raid scripting was on-par with Nost and the quests scripts were phenomenal. The anti-cheat is also very good on Kronos. The only thing Nost did better was pathing and that has been ironed out quite a bit on Kronos.

I love how valk/nost shills love to conveniently ignore the fact that their server literally have 10k players online making it impossible to do fucking anything at all, the fact that they have a 10 foot draw distance, and the fact they have a input delay on top of their ping to account for all the xaois on their god awful server.

It's an irrefutable fact that Kronos is the single best private server to have ever existed if you take every aspect into consideration. I'm hoping Crestfall/Burning Crusade can rival it but we'll see. I'm just going to enjoy watching this shit show burn while I bot 60's and make free money from all the retards thinking this server isn't going to crash and burn.
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>>167174987
You tell em
>mfw didn't fall for the zombie nost meme
Crestfall soon, and even if it doesn't come out we still get the Kronos merger and Naxx this year.
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>>167174987
>The character trade was not pay2win
Yes it was.
>It has existed in WoW since the beginning of time.
No it didn't unless you wanted to get banned 4ever.
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>>167175423
>>167175423
>>167175423
new thing
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>>167175304
>crestfall
>soon
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>>167174987
You got me convinced anon. Downloading Poleground client as we speak. God make my old laptop able to run this shit. When Kronos gets repopulated/Crestfall turns out to be decent, Imma be there.
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>>167164856
>+2 ranks
>past the early ranks

kek
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>>167174987
>buying tier 2 character with epic mount is not pay 2 win

Kek. Imagine elysium with everyone trading/buying and ganking lowbies with tier 2 set or whatever. At least chinks can't into loot so they sell lvl 60s with nothing on it.
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Paladin healing with a retarded group is the most stressful thing in the world holy shit
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>>167175719
The characters already exist within the system. They are not generated. You see no difference from your side if that character were to be played by the original guy who leveled it or if it's sold/traded. There's is no way you would ever be able to tell the difference because that character had to be leveled from scratch either way.

All it does is keep more people playing the server. It has no affect on the world or your experience. You're trying to shill really hard by making it sound as if the level 60, tier 2, and epic mount are being spawned it or created out of thin air.

Someone had to level that character, someone had to raid on that character, and someone had to farm gold for an epic mount on that character. I know you're scared that your stock mangos Valkyrie server is going to die but posting misleading bullshit is just going to get you blown the fuck out faggot.
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>>167176039
Chinks also level the characters they sell and grind gold themselves.
And buying a character you personally didn't level or gear is the fucking definition of p2w you retarded ape.
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>>167176161
You're reaching a point where we are trying to argue the semantics of what pay to win actually is.

The reality is that all you're doing is transferring someone's work into someone else's hands. No one has ever really cared about buying accounts in WoW for good reason. It's not like buying gold. If you buy an account with the Scarab Lord title and full t3 in retail no body cares. They just think you're a bit of a fag but they aren't jealous of your purchased account because they know you didn't actually work for any of it.

People aren't jealous of others that buy accounts, they just pity them for spending money in order to not play the game.

I wouldn't expect your simpleton subhuman slav brain to understand it though. Instead you'll unironically claim that Valkyrie is better because they let the chinks buy and sell gold/characters all the while causing the server to go to shit because of it and refusing to ban chink IP's.

You have the EXACT same shit on Valkyrie except it's all backwater, but the devs still refuse to do anything about it because of muh racism? And on top of all of that you ALSO get lag, input delay, 10 foot draw distance, and will never see a single ore or herb node from 1-60?

Holy shit you just keep btfoing yourself over and over. Keep it up.
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>>167176039
I don't like elysium but you are retarded if you defend that pay 2 win shit. Make it less obvious.
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>>167176798
I might actually entertain any arguments against the character trade if it weren't for the fact that the exact same shit happens on Valkyrie and the devs refuse to ban the Chinks doing it.

So unless the devs on Valk actually ban chinks and VPN's you have no argument against besides "w-w-w-well suzerain.. i mean.. um whichever team member hasn't left the project already said they ban for it once or twice a year so y--yeah btfo kronos shill!"
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>>167176712
And how is that any different to chinks powerlevelling characters for sale and grinding gold? That's also transferring their work into someone else's hands, you fucking imbecile.

It's 100% p2w because you are paying for something you didn't achieve. You'd have to be absolutely fucking retarded to not see this.
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>>167177015
Chinks are getting banned though.
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>>167176712
>the one forcing stock mangos meme was a kronos dev

Who wuda thunk it?

People DID care about buying accounts on retail you fucking retard and it was frowned upon. The fact that you don't even understand the most basic concept of pay to win is fucking hilarious.
>>
>defending p2w this hard

Lmao, Kronos devs are desperate
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>>167177016
>And how is that any different to chinks powerlevelling characters for sale and grinding gold? That's also transferring their work into someone else's hands, you fucking imbecile.

It isn't different. That's my point. The same thing happens on Valkyrie's servers. So how is that an argument against Kronos if it happens on both servers?
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>>167177015
>Kronos is le best
>no, it has pay2win bullshit
>w-well, Elysium does it too, so it's okay
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>>167177139
Because on Elysium it's frowned upon by the community and at least officially illegal and resulting in a ban while at Kronos it's an official feature.

An analogy here is a country where stealing is illegal and everyone hates thieves, but the police doesn't really chase them much and a country where stealing is fully legal.
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>>167177137
>>167177138
>>167177196
Lesser of two evils, would you rather have character buying/trading or rampant cheating, botting, hacking, and chink overload?
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>>167177301
Neither.
It's why I play on Zeth
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>>167177301
>There were no bots on Kronos
>Nobody hacked on Kronos
lmao
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>>167174987
>>167174305
I wonder wich of the nihilicucks was autistic enough to type all this shit out.
My bet is on Indi.
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>>167177301
I'd rather have a server with nice live population and decent scripting than a dead server with slightly better scripting and sanctioned character trading system. Fuck off retard.
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>>167177196
We are discussing which server is better. You can not use a fault that both servers have as a fucking argument against the opposing server you incompetent fuck.

>>167177105
>>167177279
>elysium
>banning

Tell that to my 18 botted level 60's all running on the same IP right now. Got banned instantly on Kronos for connecting with 5 clients at once.

>An analogy here is a country where stealing is illegal and everyone hates thieves, but the police doesn't really chase them much and a country where stealing is fully legal.

Terrible analogy. It's more like poorfags getting butthurt about not being able to tax inheritance money lmfao.
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>>167177467
go advocate p2w somewhere else you shitlord.
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>>167177619
Not an argument.
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>>167177467
They ban in waves, and people have bots in retail and literally every server, some get banned sooner some later.
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>>167177712
Oh I see. Guess I'll let you know when my 18 bots that have been running since the minute the server launched finally get hit in a """"wave"""".
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>>167177334
>>167177376
>>167177428
>all within one minute of eachother
Sorry who are the shills again? Imagine being this brainwashed. Go ahead and enjoy your slav mangos, there are better servers on the horizon for those who are patient.
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>>167177795
Cool story bro. Guess I'll let you know after I finish shooting my new film and stop riding in my new porche.
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>>167177676
It very much is. All you do is whine that p2w is gud. It's not. Now fuck off already.
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>>167177914
Why don't you try that post again except this time include an argument.
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>>167177804
>one guy shilling for his server
>three tell him to fuck off IN THE GENERAL THREAD FOR THE SERVER HE IS SHITTING ON
>w-w-w-w-w-w-wow u fukin shills!!!!!!!!! pls come to kronos ;_;
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>>167177804
>on the horizon
>2019 the earliest estimate
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>>167177980
>w-w-w-w-w-w-wow u fukin shills!!!!!!!!! pls come to kronos ;_;
I said "better servers on the horizon" you inbred cretin. I'm not even fucking playing playing on Kronos, Nost is dead and Valkyie is shambling around in it's skin while simultaneously sucking off the chinese.
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>>167162189
>that fucking pic.
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>>167178034
Yeah Crestfalll maybe, HG and Gummy are actually happening.
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>>167178176
So why should I stop playing the game right now, with a big community, probably the largest so far when it comes to private servers? Because something is on the horizon? You're really fucking stupid.
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>>167178309
HG is TBC and so's Memecraft except HG will actually release.
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>>167178309
Both will have extremely low pop sadly.
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https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/35942-financial-report-february-17/
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>>167178352
>>167177804
>Go ahead and enjoy your slav mangos
By all means keep playing my dude, I pray that one day your literacy will improve and then maybe you could argue a point like an adult.
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>>167178715
You're literally telling people to go to Kronos you mong, at least try to stay coherent.
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>>167178275
Expecting chinks to have any compassion for animals
>>
>guildmaster said we are nopt allowed to try and skin mobs other people killed unless we ask first
>guy expects me to just let someone steal my devilsaur tags and not try and take the skin

fucking autists wow.
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>>167162189
they deserved the rape of nanking
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>>167181393
They deserved literally everything the nips did to them and more. Bongs and burgers should have stayed out of East Asia
>>
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/35942-financial-report-february-17/

>a server that can handle 10k players is only $330 a month

That's pretty cheap.
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