/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>167126621
In scholar can anyone on PC help me with scorpioness najka?

>>167126758
You can get an NPC phantom for that one

>>167126758
It helps if you give helpful information such as what your soul memory is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKzjw8Nw-0c

>>167126758
literally just summon Tark

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>Invade some guy's world
>fallen knight set
>straight sword
>It's gonna be one of /those/ invasions
>smack em a few times and get him down to low health
>every time he rolls away and chugs
>I used two estus flasks throughout the entire duel
>he used at least 6 or 7
>point down in the middle of fighting
>get him down to a sliver of health
>he starts to roll away again
>NOT IN MY HOUSE
>equip dark hand, sprint towards the rolling bastard and smack em
>he finally dies
>point down

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Queelaag down, The Longsword+lightning resin was doing actual nice damage to her this time, not that it mattered as one of the phantoms i summoned used a bow and he pretty much sat back killing the boss for me, im glad but i also feel like I cheated.

I want to suck Mommy Rosaria's boobies

>Sir Vilhelm fight comes with a complimentary loli

I like it.

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Hey guys, this is my waifu. Please be nice to her.

>>167127210
feeling guilt is part of the game, now go find her blind sister you murderer

>>167127210
Good job, if you walk for a little bit there will be a good item drop waiting for you, kill the spider enemy to get it

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>>167127215
Better than Estus soup for sure

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>>167127321

>>167127173
>encounter guy in library
>fuck his shit up, force him to use 5 estus before I use my first
>he switches weapons
>some cheesy shit
>stunlock up the ass

Such great pvp. They shouldn't allow phantoms to switch weapons so they can't use their faggot shit when they don't want to actually play the game.

>>167127578
>>cheesy
>>stunlock up the ass
>don't want to actually play the game

I'm having trouble understanding the content of this post

>>167127438
Ill be sure to look out for NPCs

>>167127321
I was just thinking of making a Knightess build, how does this look?

http://mmdks.com/8iuw

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Lothric helm + Alva chest best fashion

>>167126027
Na, the Chaos Flame was created *from* the Witch's soul but it wasn't actually her soul: the Bed of Chaos still had that up until the Chosen Undead killed it.

>>167126394
It's probably not an inevitability. The Pus of Man presumably only gets as large as the being's humanity allows it too, so random Hollows only have a (relatively) little Pus, whereas a super human like Gundyr has a fucking big one.

>>167127321
Too bad that under the armor is just a disgusting mass of bone and chunks of flesh being eaten by the massive amounts of humanity she stores as a firekeeper.

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>>167127513
Fuck you!

>>167127285
>Sir Vilhelm fight can now be cheesed with phantoms because From wouldn't dare put something even remotely close to an actual challenge in the game
I don't like it

>>167127926
He can also be easily cheesed to fall off a cliff, it's not like it makes much of a difference.

>>167127321
>Barely any Knightess-Gwyndolin porn
What the heck???

>>167126909
That was intensely unfunny

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>>167127926
>>167127996
this
it isn't even really cheese, he just has ds2 tier AI

>half of the game is invasionland

fuck you fromsoft

>>167127996
I know even without phantoms there's a billion ways to cheese him, but I was so disappointed when they changed him from an NPC to an invader. It's less about the fact that he *can* be cheesed and more about the fact that From felt obliged to change one of the few obstacles in the game that couldn't be overcome by a phantom gank to one that could.

how would you improve the story of dark souls 2 and 3? Assuming you could only change dialogue and nothing else?

>dark souls 2

the purpose of the throne is made ambiguous, but is now the singular choice to link the fire. Emphasizes that the throne is not how the fire is linked, but a mystery step, where the chosen has nothing left to do but sit and wait.

>dark souls 3

with the unnumerable fire linkings that have taken place, the lord souls themselves have been reduced to ashen embers, including humanity. The world is dying. A single chosen can no longer bring forth enough souls to link the fire, and so came the thrones, in ever-increasing number. Multiple chosen from various lands complete their journeys and take their place on their throne, and once enough come together, the flame can finally be linked. However in this cycle, Not enough chosen undead came forth. Those who took the throne became disillusioned, lost hope, strayed, and hollowed, before their duty could take place. It's your job to collect their ashy souls and delay what is becoming increasingly inevitable.

>>167128179
Stop embering, dumbass.

>>167128031
>Barely any dark souls porn
What the heck???

>>167128195
Hes only difficult because he chugs, id say thats fair.

>>167127926
As stupid as it is for him to be gangbanged by phantoms, it's equally stupid that phantoms just couldn't even interact with him before.

Invaders and hostile NPC encounters should take greatly reduced damage from yellow and white phantoms.

>>167127693
The content is you faggots who suck dick at pvp who have to use shit broken weapons to beat someone who's handing your ass to you should kill themselves.

>>167126909
SMALL HANDS

>>167127926
Don't summon any phantoms. I killed him on my second try, black set GFS, 72.

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How much titanite can you get per NG cycle in DS3?
Is it easy to grind for them?

>>167128419
I don't see anything wrong with that, you should always use the most effective weapons to deal with situations that the game gives you, like invading NPC phantoms

>>167128721
You can buy infinite stocks of all types except for slabs after giving most of the ashes to the handmaiden.

>>167127778

a soul can split, esp. when it goes wild. Splitting a soul is probably what causes one to go wild in the first place. Manus' soul going wild and completely obliterating the surrounding area didn't stop him from having a soul, it just caused pieces of his soul to shard out.

>>167128868
How do you get slabs?

So let me get this straight:
Sulyvahn comes from the Painting.
He invented the frost blade spell that Friede puts on her Scythe.
Friede was formerly a master swordswoman who dual-wielded
Sulyvahn comes out of the painting dual-wielding swords
Friede was an evangelist who founded a church dedicated to bringing about an end of fire and to inherit the age beyond
Sulyvahn is an evangelist who subverted a fire-worshiping church into a cult that seeks an end to fire and to inherit the world beyond.

And Aldrich was just Sulyvahn's lackey, who got fed to the point of becoming a monstrous harbinger of the end times at the behest of Suly's whackjob church.

So is the Deep really just some rebranding of the Londor rhetoric? Did Sulyvahn just leave the painting to do Friede's bidding by proxy, following some yet-unrevealed plan relating to those ominous murals adorning Friede's boss room?

>>167128983
You can obtain up to 11 per NG cycle under fully legitimate means. 3 of them are in the DLC.

>>167128310
>>167128508
No you have to understand my autistic complaint: it's not about how difficult Vilhelm actually is, it's about From's pandering to the summoner class.

>>167128321
Yeah but it's not like they've changed Horace or the Farron strays (wait actually are those two exiles NPCs? I feel like I've seen them in a host's world before) or anything.

And Christ yeah I wish white and gold only did half damage against reds or something. It would give blues way more use - although, those shitty reds who refuse to engage unless they've got stage enemies to back them up would take advantage of it like mad.

>>167128985

I'm assuming the deep is the new londo abyss. They found it, peered into it, and it peered back.

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Aw c'mon what happened to the fire keeper?

>>167128981
But nothing says the Witch's soul split, and nothing in Artorias of the Abyss says Manus' did either: that didn't happen until after the Chosen Undead killed him (actually, even then I don't think the DaS2 queens are shards of Manus' *soul,* just 'shards of Manus.'

Chaos and Abyss are the purest, uncontrolled forms of Life and Dark. They're (states of) elements, not souls.

>wanna make a PvE character
>no idea what to make it

Is faith any good? Chucking lightning at niggers sounds fun.

Where do all the other good weapons go (like RHH, GS Rapier, etc)? Particularly curious about how people see offhanded xbows and which weapons they go best with (probably rapiers due to fast 1HR1 and single stat scaling on quills).

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>>167129417
whoops, forgot image

I mean "go" like "on the chart"

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Oh, its that disturbing no lipped negro frampt i always see people posting.

>>167129130
The two exile NPCs count as normal enemies. Summons can hurt them, as can invaders if seeded.

Horace was made specifically to be a pushover. He stops attacking if your health gets low to let you heal, but he does so little damage and makes so little effort to avoid getting hit that you should never have to worry about that.

>>167129336

chaos is literally the witch's soul seeping into the environment, like a life-based nuclear radiation.

>>167128985
Sulyvahn is unassociated with Londor. Sulyvahn was corrupted by the Profaned Flame and probably wants to end the Age of Fire because he sees the whole linking process as clinging to a rotting world - something he's been brought up not to do as a native of the Painted World. Sulyvahn doesn't seem fussy about how he ends the Age of Fire - killing the gods, the Profaned Flame, the Deep, whatever's good as long as it gets the job done. Sulyvahn isn't actually pro-Deep nor is he the originator of the Deep philosophy - that came from Aldrich and McDonnell, who are his lackeys but spent a good amount of time just doing their own thing in the Cathedral.

By the time Elfriede came to the painting she didn't really give a shit about the Age of Dark any more. She just wanted a new home, so it's unlikely that she'd have sent Sulyvahn out into the world as her agent.

Remember that Yuria apparently sees Sulyvahn as just another obstacle, because a Pale Shade can help you kill him. The Sable Church isn't just working towards an Age of Dark, it's working towards the usurpation of fire.

>>167129556
Is feeding him anything a good idea?

>>167128721
In Farron Keep, there is a ladder to the large bridge you used to get into Undead Settlement. Climb this ladder, activate the bonfire and hang out with the dog. After fulfilling your pupper-touching desires, look around the room a bit, and you'll be able to see a corpse hanging out of a ledge. There is an illusion hiding the entrance to that corpse on the other side of the wall. Walk around and hit it, you'll collect the Dream-chaser's ashes, which you can give to the Shrine Handmaiden, who will then sell you Titanite Shards for 800 souls each.

After defeating the first boss of Irithyll Valley, run around outside to the Archers and kept right. You'll eventually follow the sidewalk onto a ledge with the Easterner's Ashes. These unlock Large Titanite Shards at the Shrine Handmaiden.

In the secret level near the end past the last bonfire and a very difficult gauntlet of enemies that are weak to lightning, hang left and you'll run into some very tough lizards. Kill them or knock them off the cliff with a crossbow weapon art. Collect the Dragon-Chaser's ashes to unlock the remaining Titanite Materials.

>>167129640
The Witch created the Chaos Flame with fire sorcery but it is not her actual soul. She still has that even as the Bed of Chaos and you take it. Nothing says the Witch's soul was ever split.

>>167129704
Yeah, it's how you upgrade weapons :)

>>167129846
Lol

>>167129417
>>167129534
WP beats everything that isn't a fast 1H weapon paired with a shield. You might as well treat it as a mechanical hard counter to any non-blocking action. It's hypothetically unbeatable against 2H weapons, though in practice this depends entirely on the WP-user's human error.

Carthus WAS the best non-WP weapon in the game. It lost to WP because everything loses to WP. Unlike WP, Carthus beats shields by doing insane stamina damage on top of being fast as easy to pressure with, and being straight better than any 1H weapon you could pair with a shield.

Other "good" weapons weren't relevant to this paradigm at all. Estoc is just a shittier 1H option than a SS. GS loses hard to WP. RHH loses hard to WP, etc.

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huh... the sun in DS3 has some kind of lettering spinning around it

>>167129776

did you not play dark souls 1? it literally says that the witch of izalith tried to recreate the first flame using her soul, and it destroyed her. she went wild, like manus, and her soul proceeded to seep into the world around her, like manus.

>>167129942
ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL

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this is some lord of the rings shit right here

>>167128985
i think he left because he had his own ambitions after finding the profaned capital

also to note, he has yorshka imprisoned but I'm not sure what the intentions were, all I know is that he may have been at odds with velka or friede since corvians were raiding traveling wagons in search of yorshka i.e. road of sacrifices

>>167129907
I don't know, havelstock still feels pretty good for me, though it feels like it's really just BKS with training wheels and better backstabs at the cost of being otherwise worse. That youtuber who did the buff testing seems convinced the avelyn is meta, but the fact that he's putting lamo 10 shots* over the arbalest makes me think he's not on the mark.

*because the only advantage the avelyn has is is explosive bolt spray, once those are gon may as well use arbalest

>>167129953
Yes, using her soul, the power it gave her - power over fire and life. Sorcery is magic defined from your soul, it is soul power. The Chaos Flame is not literally her soul. You get her fucking soul in game. I know Bed of Chaos is a chore anon but if you go and beat it you will receive the soul of the Witch of Izalith, not a Chaos Flame.

>>167130114
Darkmoons are the God's policeforce.
Sully took down the Gods
Of course he would put their police force in the shitter.

>>167129942
Are you exploring the kiln for DLC stuff?

The trailer gave us shots of both kiln-Archives and a kiln version of the High Wall's banner cliff. It looks like they'll have us start somewhere in that rolled-up ball of kiln-Lothric and travel towards the Ringed City.

There might already be some hints at an entrance or something around there.

>>167130160
Havel's isn't worth the weight over BKS and gets dumpstered by dark builds.

>>167126621
man keeping cuculus alive is actually pretty hard

I dont really care about the whip but I can imagine if I wanted it i'd be getting really stressed out

>>167130337
I wonder what Dreg Heap actually is. The Kiln seems to be its own weird subdimension: is the huge pile of ruins a physical metaphor? Or do the ruins of fallen kingdoms actually fall through the ground and end up there?

>>167130337
not quite at the kiln yet but that's a good idea. going to try on a different character and see if i can find something. assuming any of the dlc stuff is in the game files

>>167130619
The world is collapsing in on itself, both physically and chronologically. The kiln is the final moments, where the end of every kingdom to ever be and end is all together ending as one. It's an ambiguous pile of assorted ruined collected at random from every point in history and mashed together.

Everything is happening in different times, in separate histories, but everything begins with the fire, and so everything also ends with the fire. No matter where and when it was, it shares its last moments with the flame.

The name Dreg here is important since it seems to be tying the dregs that the Aldrich Faithful worship to this whole apocalyptic mythos.

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>Ringed City features a giant flaming bat demon

So we're getting Demon Spear, right?

Right?

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>>167130337
yeah there isn't much here

pretty much just firelink on the left and the soul of cinder arena is on this map

>>167131370
That's a shame.
The skybox didn't quite match in the trailers, though, so I guess we're getting another warp cue to a separate DLC map.

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>>167131370
descending from the roots of the kiln to the dlc area would be pretty cool though if they did it

>>167130987
Yeah one of the boss names translates to "Manus, Lord of the Deep," so assuming that Dreg Heap is the area's actual name then maybe we'll finally get the true answer about what the Deep is. I'm hoping for angel answers too, seeing as there's going to be more Lothric stuff, the whole golden glow of the city, and ehat looks like the intermediary phase between a Hollow tree and pilgrim butterfly.

>>167131495
Wasn't that even one of Aldia's lines?

>>167129258
Do you remember another NPC that just so happened to be close by to that area? Notice how he's also gone now? Put two and two together.

>>167131236
I don't really give a shit about the spear, I'm just glad that Batwing Demons are finally getting some love and actually being all demonic and firey and shit.

I'm also really hoping that the thing about the heavy knight set appearing turns out to be true. I really fucking want it.

>>167129846
I dont trust people who use smileys, his butthole looks a long way down so i dont think ill get anything back.

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>>167131570
could be

in other news: the sun is flat

just like the earth ;)

>>167131632
Lautrec? But why? Is that what the black eye orb is for? I didnt see any messages about it shaking around the shrine.

>>167131863
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>>167131863
its a black hole

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>>167131863
someone call vaati

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

Why are the "crosses" in crucifixion woods swords of avowal?

>>167132265
no, it's a flat 2d image with 90% opacity pasted to the skybox

>>167132273
Probably wanted to distance them from a regular crucifix so it didn't come across as Christian imagery or some bullshit.
If you want a lore reason then maybe that shape has something to do with the Abyss or Dark, which is why the Undead Legion crucified those afflicted on it and why it's the sword of avowal.

>>167126621
>embered
>mandatory 6 invaders nowhere to be seen

That webm is bullshit

>>167132376
BUT WHY IS IT SLIGHTLY TRANSPARENT
WHY NOT 100% OPACITY
THE LORE IMPLICATIONS ARE GETTING WILD

>>167132574
Are you kidding? I feel like I rarely get invaded even while fingered.

>>167127321
Lady of the Darkling?

More like, LAY'S of the Darkling.

>>167131951
It'll start shaking once you reach a later part of the game (it's a mandatory area, you won't miss it). For now, your hub bonfire is going to be Andre's. Which happens to be close to your next destination. Enjoy the funhouse.

>>167132710
Which region? I'm in SA and I get invaded AT LEAST twice by zone. More if I'm in a covenant zone (60% of the game)

>>167132912
I swear to god.

>>167131835
what you get back is souls
so don't feed him anything you actually want, especially since many weapons and armors are only available once and if you throw them away you will lose them forever

>>167132587
it's actually supposed to be BEHIND the other shit in the skybox. i guess 90% opacity is a good way to fake being sort of able to see clouds and shit in front of it

>>167133296
I pretty much pop embers with impunity and very, very rarely see invaders. it just goes to show how much the priority is weighted toward worlds with phantoms in them.

poor fucks seem conditioned to expect a ganksquad too, standard operating procedure is to hide for a long period of time before coming out to play

>>167131863
that shot is actually pretty spooky

>>167134894
>invade Irithyll before pontiff
>all the enemies I can see are still alive
>have to play the guessing game: Is the host at the first bonfire or in the exact opposite direction heading onwards from the second bonfire?
>check one of them
>be wrong
>it takes 5 years to cross back to the other side of the level and find the host
just give us a thing (or a spell/miracle) that points the direction to the host like what bluecops get vs reds

Can someone give me a list of good scaling melee weapons for pyro?

https://www.reddit.com/r/shittydarksouls/

Why do they hate dex?

>>167135494
dark [dex-oriented weapon]

>>167132710
I get invaded while fingered somewhat reliably but never really get multiple invaders at once.

Otherwise I generally have to sit around and wait for invaders.

>>167135482
You can do what that other anon did, equip Executioner's Greatsword and follow the trail of FP regeneration to the host and/or his phantom.

>>167135534
reference to an ancient meme video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4

>>167136056
if things are taking damage you can see healthbars through walls, even

but the problem happens when you invade and they just decide to set up camp and wait for you around the bonfire
but then you have no clue which bonfire it's at and you have to just randomly guess

Will I get invaded by Watchdogs if I'm a watchdog too? I'm going to join and alt+tab until I see notification but if I get buttfucked by one of my buddys it'll be extremely painful

>>167137184
for you

>>167137184
you don't have to be in the watchdog area to get watchdog summoned

Does iGP11 still work? First few textures overrides I tried worked and then they all stopped working. I can get the software to override anything now.

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Why does nobody have the same theory about Yorshka as me? Is it too obvious so they avoid it and look for other angles?

I believe Yorshka was Gwyndolin's and Priscilla's daughter, that Priscilla died at some point, and Gwyndolin raised her to believe Gwyn is her dad and Gwyndolin is her brother. I believe they were her parents because they were the only two godlike beings left in Anor Londo after the canon ending of ds1.

But all the theories I've heard are different and don't explain that grave with the corvian praying in front of it around the back of Yorshka's church. That has to be Priscilla's grave.

There was also that detail about Aldrich dreaming about a girl:

"Aldrich dreamt as he slowly devoured the God of the Darkmoon. In this dream, he perceived the form of a young, pale girl in hiding."

This could've been Gwyndolin's memories of Yorshka or also his memories of Priscilla.

Are there any holes in this?

>>167137745
tl;dr gwyndolin had a hard life

Recommend some fun builds, please.
Just finished a pure str one.

>>167137972
where is cr8 on this graph?

>>167137745
It's implied from an item dropped by a npc invader in the dlc at the remains of Pricilla's tower area that the invader was Pricilla's lover/husbando and one day he came back and she was gone or dead and he went insane from grief.

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>dagger parry damage vs heide knight

>>167138046
Livid Pyromancer Dunnell is the invader and the lore bit is from the parting flame pyromancy you pick up in the Pricilla arena.

>>167138046
Which item? The parting flame? Even so Gwyndolin taking her from the painting could still fit. The painting girl could also be Gwyndolin's daughter or maybe that pyro dude's daughter.

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I'm undead aren't I so why aren't I welcome here?

>>167138046
"The pyromancy flame of Livid Pyromancer Dunnel that attracts the echoes of the death.

When Dunnel lost his hideous spouse, he gave his own pyromancy flame as an offering, which transformed into a parting flame. Not long after, Dunnel became a mad spirit, cursed to wander the lands."

>he gave his own pyromancy flame as an offering
As an offering to what?

>>167137745
Yes. Your lack of understanding for religious terminology.

Allfather Loyd isn't your dad, for example.

>>167138749
I believe in one of the item descriptions it implies Gwyndolin is her actual brother and not brother like a bishop or whatever. Which probably means she didn't mean Gwyn was her father in that sense either.

All of that is kind of a moot point if she's being lied to though.

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>Invade
>see an aldritch faithful
>debate killing the host with him but don't wanna gank him
>eventually figure out it's the aldritch faithful that's getting ganked by the host and his butt buddy
>gif related
>drop down and kill host's butt buddy
>host starts to chug
>backstab him
>AF and i gang up on him
>dead as fuck

>>167138985
if Gwyndolin is Gwyn's daughter (male), could Priscilla be Gwyn's firstborn son (female)?

>>167139248
His firstborn is Nameless.

>>167137369
Now I feel like a retard but thanks anon

>>167137745
Stating that Priscilla either lived or died would be a literal "fuck you" to people who selected otherwise. That's why the fact that Aldritch "dreamt" of her is on purpose so that she can either be dead or alive by the DS1 player's action by the time he dreams.

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>>167138212
>parrying heide knights

>>167138578
You do know that the Evangelists are kidnapping undeads to take them to the Cathedral of the Deep as sacrifices to Aldrich, right?

>>167139060
Reminds me of one of my first invasions in Crucifixion Woods.

>invade as purple, see a host and his Sunbro teaming up against a Watchdog
>decide to even the odds, take host on and become a distraction
>Watchdog kills the Sunbro, we both go for the host
>chase host all the way back to halfway fortress, finish him off there before a summoned blueberry can interfere

The grapist in me knows that the most logical decision would be to go for the weakest target, but it always feels so right to spank a host's phantoms and gun directly for the host for relying on summons. Perhaps it does take less effort to kill the host than to deal with other phantoms, but I'm a principled grapist.

Fuuuuuuuuuck all these silver knights and their fucking dildo launchers!

AL is actually getting me gud though...

Should I go to painted world yet?

how the fuck do you use twinspears? they don't do very much damage at all outside of rolling L1 leopokes

obviously i can't just spam that one attack, but every other attack besides the initial sweep from the first L1 can hit for shit.

I really wish the R2 was a partizan sweep

>>167139792
Painted World is purely optional, but it's also extremely tough, I wouldn't go in until at least after beating Anor Londo's area boss. If you head into Painted World, you'll be stranded until you reach the boss area, so you'll most likely be fucked unless you made major preparations.

Anyone willing to drop 10 titanite chunks around 115 SL on PC? I fucking hate going through Irithyll Dungeon.

>>167139792
I went at SL 72 and I found it extremely easy (except that fucking mountain pass with follower and wolf spam).

>>167140410
>pc
just use ce you pussy

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A while ago I saw a thread which contained some supposed translated boss names for the new Ringed City DLC. Does anybody here happen to have these supposed translated names? I would really appreciate it if somebody posted them.

>>167140410
Can't drop materials

Just trek around ADP for a while

>>167140479
>ever using ce

kys impure scum

>>167140410
Just use CE, nobody cares, farming is an arbitrary and dull game mechanic

>>167140465

Ahhh, I am only 63 and am generally bad at this game.

I'll wait till later.

>>167140554
>nobody cares
Not him but I'll care when I get banned.

>>167140554
Are people really that lax on using CE? I'd use it if not for my crippling need of gitting gud

>>167140636
From doesn't really care, and Bamco forgot that PC is a platform
>>167140648
I can understand why you would want to be 'legit' but grinding just takes away from the game experience of the game and is extremely dull, repetitive and arbitrary

Yorshka's Chime or canvas talisman for miracles? DMB specifically

>>167140648
as long as you dont do anything overly stupid while online youre fine
everything from changing stacks of items from 1 to 99 to itemswapping +2 rings is fine as long as youre offline on steam
something as minor as giving yourself titanite is trivial, there would be no difference between you and a 'legit' player

>>167140880
Yorshka's is the best for anything that isn't an offensive miracle or dark miracle.

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>play the game from launch with a pyromancer, with dreams of become a dark witch bitch like my best DaS2 character
>achieve this dream, having fun all the while
>lets try dark sorceries now!
>sorceries in general seem terrible in comparison
Damn. Now I have to invade for a tongue. Was I just spoiled by easymode pyromancy? The dark great sword spell is fucking rad, but that's basically it. The missiles are not so hot, and I don't much care for the regular soeceries either.

>>167139510
Selected? What? And they didn't state it (like they don't state most things). They just put a very suspicious grave next to the church.

What's the deal with Ocelot

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Oh god i really hope that isnt the next boss.

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>>167141242
Hes made... of liquid

>>167141256

Well, it's a something.

If I'm running a quality build and I like fastrolling, whats the most damage I can get from a Manserpent GS? For DS1.

>>167141242
he is the child of a dragon.

>>167141540
Why is he invisible

Why doesn't he grow

>>167141630
see
>>167141540

what does ringing the bell actually do? dark souls 2

>>167141630

He's invisible because they thought it was too violent to show a baby being squashed, and the sound effect. It's in deleted audio on YouTube.

He doesn't grow because he's a newborn and is also incredibly weak.

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>>167141665
Rings a bell

>>167141665
You're physically smashing the brash balls of a god

So, in Dark Souls 1 regular play, not talking pvp or whatever, Spears are basically easy mode, right? Honestly feels dirty how much of the game it basically trivializes.

>>167141741
Santiers spear makes DaS2 ezmodo too, You can break the rock on the end really fast by using it at the birds nest.

>>167141683
Divine Blessing's description makes it sound like he was born a while ago

Is he unable to grow due to his father being a fake dragon?

>>167141741
Like legimately, there hasn't been a single point all game where I've been trying out a weapon and thought of any circumstance where it wouldn't be easier to just use whatever my current best spear is.

Well, I'm at gwyn now, so I guess I'll just have my next character be sworn as spearless.

>>167127210
im having a hard time with ceaseless charger, since they patched the glitched the fucker kills me with 2 hits

Everyone I invade has too many friends with him! I really just need a tongue. Where's a good place to invade around lv80? I don't feel like I have this problem nearly as much on my level 50ish invader.

>>167129556
>>167129258
why is your character so fucking fat? Why do people do this?

>>167141741
Magic is easy mode. Especially if you have the oolacile catalyst. At 16 INT you can kill capra with 3 soul arrows. Crystal magic weapon on a bandit's knife is also fairly ridiculous.

Spears are the SAFEST way to play the game. Not easy, but you won't die either.

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>>167126621
>farming aldrich cucks like it's my occupation

this is so fun

>>167141741
If you are really shit magic is easymode.
If you are halfway decent then rushing for gravelord sword is.

>Dancer on xbone

Fuck this fight. The fire drops the framerate down to twenty and fucks up all my dodges and reads on this boss.

I''m on NG++++ for fuck's sake and shouldn't be dying to this boss anymore. Fuck off.

>>167142647
>complaining about FPS drops on console

You knew what you were signing up for.

>>167141665
in the belfry?
it pisses off the gnome guys and the bellbros i guess
and i think it might unlock the door out?

>>167142191
>not putting all sliders at either 0 or 100 in any game with a character creator
it's like you don't even know what fun is

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>"hey brawl looks fun, imma try that!"
>remaining: 5
does anyone even play this mode?
what's the level matchmaking like in undead matches btw?

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Darkness will shortly settle.

>>167143485
Best ending, good closure and hope for the future.

>>167143485
>>167143485
I hope the endings we choose change things in the DLC.

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Oh. Hi Sully.
Didn't expect to see you here.
Or, at all, really.

>>167143485
>>167143603
None of the endings were really good and did nothing for closure.
>linking the flame probably had no effect if the ending tells anything.
>letting the firekeeper take the flame does nothing except give us vague non-answers and cause the lights to go out. Also you can stomp on her head because why not?
>Londor usurping is the same as the dark lord endings in other games.

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Who's ready for this to make a comeback in the DLC? Calling it now, ninja flip under 50% equip load.

Dumb question, but how does one screenshot on DaS1? Print Screen isn't happy with it.

>>167144306
why not 30%

anyways the carthus bloodring already gives better-than-ninjaflip iframes

>>167126621
>guy waits 5 minutes at the bonfire with his buttbuddy
>finally comes out, buttbuddy dies
>pulls the plug

god that is fucking cancer, do I even get my rewards for a successful invasion

>>167132710
>implying you can get invaded without phantoms

>>167144369
F12 for steam screenshots, but you should really have Fraps.

>>167141952
>they patched the glitch
what glitch? getting him to fall to his death? that never got patched because it's not a glitch, he's grabbing on the ledge and you basically step on his fingers and make him fall off

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>>167127321
Do you have any lewds of your waifu?
Do you want some?

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>>167144449
good point

alright I got it, let's make flip ring give you bloodring i-frames if you don't already have it, and if you do, changes your backstep into a reverse floor shift where your character just slides backwards across the terrain and has i-frames while doing it

>>167144534
you're supposed to feed on the misery of the players you murder, not on the souls and tongues

and a host pulling the plug is MAXIMUM misery for you to feed on

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>one boss fight is a wolf pack + an NPC with inflated stats + a big bad wolf
>other boss fight is a duo fight with froslass and darmanitan
why

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>>167129556
wait till he reveals his true nature

>>167144706
let me explain you, when you retreive the armor of her sister he goes full berserk, he follows you and i tried luring him out but all he does know is attacking me from fat and he doesnt not approaches to the pillars

>>167144929
You do realize invading is meant as a mechanic to achieve ember form? It sucks when someone disconnects.

>>167141665
It opens the door out of the area. Now, why the fuck it is tied to the door opening makes no fucking sense.

The dumb midgets guard the bell for centuries but they didn't realize that if they opened the door it's connected to, nobody would have any reason to bother their precious bell.

The justification for the bell covenant and the bell areas is retarded and one of the big reasons why I dislike DS2 overall : it's gamey in ways that don't translate to goid gameplay but they crush the atmosphere as well.

>>167141665
AHAHAHAAA
OHOHOOOO

>>167142391
>rush gls
>kill all the titty demon (except the ridiculous 2)
>+4 boss weapon before the golem
>500000000 damage per hit
if only staggered r1s weren't so slow and/or the character would move his feet a bit

>>167145296
Undead! Undead! Be gone or it's off with your head!

>>167145075
actually the main purpose of invading is having fun

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be honest, what's so great about the girl and her blob boss fight?
first phase is piss easy, second is only very slightly hard just because there's two enemies, but they go down easy enough
i don't get it

>>167145218
I mean I think they're more about guarding the area AROUND the bell rather than specifically keeping people from ringing it

>>167144449
I thought the <30% roll has more iframes than the <70%, but I double checked and only distance changes. So yeah, 30% would be more fair. It'd be 15 frames vs the current 13, if they don't change anything. Imagine stacking that with with the Bloodring.

>>167144279
>>linking the flame probably had no effect if the ending tells anything
correct
>>letting the firekeeper take the flame does nothing except give us vague non-answers and cause the lights to go out.
You actually ensure the world goes dark to finally start a true age of dark >Also you can stomp on her head because why not?
des reference
>>Londor usurping is the same as the dark lord endings in other games.
in the other games, the player didn't take the flame for himself. even if he hadn't linked, some other undead fuck goes and links it. in fact, that's exactly what solaire supposedly does if you "save" him and don't link the flame.

>>167145051
run faster. in case you fuck this up the first time, you need to go all the way back where his sister was before running back to the fog

>>167145534
What fight are you talking about?

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>blooding +10 iframes
>dwgr +2 iframes
>roll suddenly has 24 iframes out of its 24 iframe duration
sounds perfect

>>167144306
>yfw it makes a return
>yfw all it does is add iframes to backteps

>Onyx Blade

I found my love.

>>167145850
and replace the backstep animation with a backflip

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>>167145850

>>167145850
could be possible, there's a flip-backstep animation that's unused

>>167145808
the beauty and the beast
icegirl and her papa

>>167145567
There's nothing of interest there.

>>167146107
I mean it's just defending the belltower itself that's important. Not because of anything actually in the belfries but just because it's their "duty", and has been for a longass time.

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>yfw they will never release a souls game on PC ever again

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Do you like my style /dsg/
Also I'm bored out of my mind by quality builds. I would like to try a faith/int hybrid utilizing both lightning and sorceries.

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Man, I really enjoyed the Gwyn fight, it ended with a maybe have him swap up equipment between various sets to add some varied challenges. Had to make it challenging myself by not using my spear.

Onwards to 2 then, I suppose.

>>167145517
Surely you mean the main purpose of invading is preventing fun

>>167146232
Technically that's correct because there are going to be no more 'souls' games, but the next From dark fantasy i.p was already confirmed to be PC/Xbox/PS4 I think.

I don't like exclusives but if From got Studio Japan to help out again and full Sony support then that'd be alright.

>>167146302
I have to parry cheese Gwyn because I fucking suck

>>167146302
Post got fucked up? Well you get what I mean.

>Andre has no forge
>Andre has no grinding wheel
>Hammers a completely finished sword in every game

Andre is an imposter
The chosen undead is an imposter

It all makes sense now

>>167146382
I'm still hoping From will actually release a complete game without filler within our lifetime. Bloodborne and DeS were the closest to that, but there they had help from Sony directly.

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>>167140528

How dead is 2's multiplayer compared to 1's? Cause I found people for coop in the first game, but only very rarely, and I'm not sure if I want to build a more co op friendly build for 2 or not. pvp is fun as a side thing but I'm not gonna make a build around it or anything.

>>167146535
DeS is not really 'complete' seeing as they cut out an entire 6th of the game.

Inb4 Lost Izalith
As shit as Lost Izalith was, it was still on par with a DeS world and had 4 bosses and everything.

>>167146706
>4 bosses
God that was fucking retarded.

Alright /dsg/, you've been tasked with filling a quota on returning items for the DLC. From needs:

>3 armor sets
>1 standalone armor piece
>9 weapons, catalysts, or shields
>2 rings

What do you choose?

>>167146596
DaS2 vanilla is super dead in terms of the numbers but you still get more coop in vanilla das2 than das2 because the connections aren't fucked.

>>167146510
Why do you think the DaS3 weapons never break? Because they were made by Andre in the course of centuries.

>>167145939
Oh, those guys. Yeah, first phase is easy once you get the invisible gimmick down. In the second phase Friede needs to be somewhat more protective of Ariandel. He dies really quick. Her stealth healing should begin the moment she starts. Now she has this big windup. Ariandel also needs some stagger/damage with his whole body. Third phase Friede is alright. Also the fight somewhat feels as it doesn't reward aggresive play, a lot of times it's best to just wait for a high recoverey move.

>>167146753
>3 armor sets
just give me the unused burial knight set already, don't care about the others

>>167146596
>>167146787

In terms of activity:

DS3 > SOTFS > DS1 (with DSCM) > BB > DS2 > DS1 (without DSCM) > DeS

>>167128419
Sounds to me like youre just getting out played and styled on

>>167146787
Sorry, forgot to mention that I have scholars. Honestly I didn't even know there was two versions (rerelease?), I just picked it up when it was on sale. Looks like I dodged a bullet there.

>>167146905
Vilhelm's set overwrote burial knight's data. The dream is over.

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>>167147082
yeah, I knew already. just wanted to dream, man

>>167127776
>DS3 lets you do 6 great weapon 2H R1s in a row without recovering stamina.

The fuck is this bullshit

>>167146753
Royal Swordsman set,Elite Cleric set, Chester's Set.
Binded hood
Bewitched Alonne Sword, Golem Axe, Sanctum crossbow, Twinblade, Silver Knight Straight Sword, Lava Bow, LHB, Hunter Axe, Ivory Kang lightsaber.

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Is it just me or does DaS 1 have significantly longer ways from bonfire to boss?

would anyone mind dropping me a cathedral knight helm?

ng sl 89

>>167146916
Where do you find the activity in DS1 with DSCM?

>>167147181
Than DS2 or DS3? Yes, generally.
Than DeS / BB? No.

>>167147181
too much bonfires in 3, there's like 5 of them in Farron

someone wanna gank ng+ nameless king?
ps4
pass: dsg

>>167147248
>>167147372

I got to be honest though. I'm playing DaS1 after DaS2, 3 and BB and I'm sort of missing the ability to warp to other bonfires.

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>>167147180
>Elite Cleric Set
>5 years after its creation, it becomes legit obtainable for the first time
I've never liked the look of it, but this makes me want it.

>Bewitched Alonne Sword
Isn't Bloodlust similar enough?

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>>167147372

>>167147498
>Isn't Bloodlust similar enough?

this betta be bait

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>>167147467
I hear ya but its not that bad with the shortcuts.

>>167147541
Whats wrong with bloodlust?

>>167147467
warping isn't that bad when it's done right, example being because of a plot device like in DaS I. I would have retained the warp ability only from "selected" bonfires (say one per area, maybe bosses bonfires too)
>>167147532
yeah, that's a fucking disgrace. why not just keep the dragonslayer one and ditch the other? it's literally thirty steps away

>>167146753
>Hexer's Set, non-Crystalline Set, Steel Set
>Manikin Mask
>Gold Tracer&Dark Silver Tracer, Silver Knight Spear, Titanite Catch Pole, Channeler's Trident, Bone Fist, Handmaid's Ladle, Curved Dragon Greatsword, Sacred Chime Hammer
>Black Witch's Staff
>Old Sun Ring, Vanquisher's Seal

Heyo, are the servers for Scholars of the First Sin shit, or is it on my end? I'm getting dc-ed every 3 minutes here.

How do I stop relying on a shield crutch? I'm trying to git gud in DS1 so I won't run through turtling everywhere in 2 and 3 but I just can't stop blocking hits instead because it's so easy

>>167147762
>plot device like in DaS I
it wasn't a plot device in 1. they were clearly running out of time and instead of making the areas interconnected (like a adding a shortcut from the archives to sens and connecting demon ruins with totg and ass lake) they elected to allow the player to warp after the lordvessel. the game could be fine just allowing to warp from the lord soul bonfires.

>>167148129
Unequip it. Do you want me to give you a step by step guide on how?

>>167126621
is aldrich doable solo?

>floating purple balls miss and still do a 100 damage each
>teleports away after 1 attack then does the "sprint or die" move
>get 1 hit in before he teleports, and at the cost of taking 500 damage from purple balls

what a shit fight

>>167148214
But then I'll die a bunch

>>167148129 choose one
Powerstance: fast weapon+slow weapon
magic hybrid: spell tool+weapon

>>167147826
Solid picks all around. Hexer's and Tracers are already coded in (and silver knight spear, technically), hopefully they get released. Damn shame otherwise.

>>167148275
take off enough armor to fast roll
>>167148301
>his options are something that is not an option and a bigger crutch

>>167148273
Use fire, if you have it. Makes the fight a breeze.

>>167148273
Yes, I have always done the fight solo. I think I lost to him only once or twice because I didn't expect the rain of arrows to go on that fellin' long.

>>167148129
Silver knight spear in main hand, pyro flame in left hand.

So power stancing two big-ass hammers is strictly worse than just two-handing one, right? No matter how hilarious it looks

>>167147498
>Isn't Bloodlust similar enough?
at least allone's sword had a unique moveset instead of generic katana

>>167148273
Aldrich is a very easy lord. Just beware of the arrow storm in the second phase.

>>167148493
yeah and then what

sprint and get 1 attack, then take 500 damage from purple orbs, then he teleports away.

>>167148493
The worst is when he does the arrow rain on phase two whilespaming those purple soulspear, if you are not expecting them, you are screwed

>>167148445
Generally speaking yes. You do a shitload more poise damage but never really get to take advantage of it.

>>167148584
So really the only real way to power stance is to have a fast weapon that hopefully staggers them like a mace and then bash them
Or do something like greataxe + greathammer so you can sweep entire waves off enemies away in PvE if you feell ike it

>>167148523
It'd probably be easier to give you substantial advice if you weren't resorting to hyperbole to describe how that fight's going for you. I once beat Aldrich at level 6 and regularly do so at 30 and under, he's a bitch to fight but not as hard as you're making him out to be.

>>167148707
I've always been a fan of dual maces, especially dual MoI with lightning infusion and sunlight blade cast on both.

>>167147217
DSCM automatically finds other players to join you with and lets them see where they are. Since there's about the same number of players on DS1 as SOTFS, that makes DS1 with DSCM about equal to SOTFS with the added benefit of being able to see level ranges for each area.

>>167148924
Do you use the heavy attack on that or is alternating R1 and L1 faster than regular attacks?

>>167148707
There used to be some decent power stance options, but they nerfed them. Power stancing is just a bad meme now.

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Has this been patched?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBqVH3ZaEs

>>167148927
No, I mean, are there any main soul levels I need to watch out for? 80, 100, 120?

Any PVP hubs? I heard Oolacile was the place to be.

I understand how DSCM works, but I'd like to know for certain where people stop to pvp, y'know?

>>167149015
http://dscmstat.us/

>>167148978
Usually I'll alternate between light attacks. Depending on how much stamina you have you can squeeze in a few light hits before eating the last of your stamina with a big one.

As always, ignore the hell out of what Lucifer's saying.

>>167149164
And that's faster than just spamming R1?

I was randomly reading the wiki and read the paragraph on Gywn's army and it says that his White Knights became Black Knights due to being charred when Gywn linked the first flame, but I thought they became charred when they had to fight the demons that the Witch of Izalith created, is the wiki wrong or did both happen?

I thought the latter was true because I believe I read somewhere that the Black Knights are all using weapons specifically designed to kill demons.

so how is it that rotting can physically turn things into sludge monsters like in the Painting?

>>167149015
SL 20-25 Gargoyles (for co-op) or Parish (invasions)
SL 55 Anor Londo (O&S Co-op or invasions)
SL 80 Painted World / Oolacile / Defending catcovenant
SL 125 Kiln / Oolacile / Invading Cat Covenant

Those are a few I can think of.

>>167147181
Not really.
There's only a few examples of real gauntlets to the bosses, virtually the same amount of them as in DS3.

>>167149238
http://soulslore.wikidot.com/data:black-knights

>>167149267
Rotting in the Painting is the same as Abyssal corruption outside of it.
Ringed City seems to add special creatures that come with the spread of Abyss who are insects, exactly like the rot flies in Ariandel.

>>167149420
>Rotting in the Painting is the same as Abyssal corruption outside of it.
why

>>167149420
>Rotting in the Painting is the same as Abyssal corruption outside of it.

Where the fuck did you get this

>>167149191
It's been a while since I've played DS2 so I can't quite recall, but IIRC the L1 brings out 2 fast attacks so it would get more attacks out in the same amount of time but cost more stamina. Mixing in R1 conserves stamina but ends up throwing out fewer attacks over time.

>>167149238
their armor was charred black from fighting chaos, but the First Flame is what turned them into disembodied spirits

>>167149520
Oh I thought you alternate L1 and R1 to attack with both, not that it does automatically
My bad

>>167149473
>>167149517
the painting is made with humanity as its' pigment, rotting paint = decaying/mutating/fucked up humanity = abyssal corruption

it's basic math people

>>167149357
>>167149528
What a way to go.
Get your ass kicked by literal demons and then your king blows you the fuck out so hard you become a ghost.

>>167149603
Yeah, the Dank Souls world is not a nice place
I don't think there's anyone who doesn't have a sad story

>>167149597
On top of that, everything that happens in Ariandel is a carbon copy of what happens in the outside world, just with different terms so instead of abyss they have rot, instead of destroying the first flame to reset the world they burn the paining, instead of hollows they have fucked up corvians mutating into abominations, etc.

>>167126621
alright im about to do irithyll dungeon

I dont want to have a fucking stress related heart attack so what advice can you give me

>>167149678
>I don't think there's anyone who doesn't have a sad story
GAVLAN WHEEL
GAVLAN DEAL

WHAT YOU WANT?

WITH GAVLAN, YOU WHEEL
YOU DEAL

>>167149741
turn up your headset volume

>>167149760
Majority of DS2 NPCs blatantly have no endings to their quest lines, i don't see a point in discussing them.

>>167149760
someone who is called lonesome and drinks all the time is bound to have some sort of sad story

>>167146753
I want new shit instead of the same crap from previous games over and over
I'm already not looking forward to this DLC

>>167149938
>playing through DLC2
>meet Gavlan at the end of the world
>his title is no longer "lonesome"
>his dialogue mentions having a family somewhere
how would /dsg/ react?

>>167149973
>I want new shit
Did you post in the wrong general? Surely no one could expect new things in this series

>>167148445
>>167148584
>>167148707

Here's the lowdown on power stance:

1. R1 -> L1 is an automatic 2 hit combo except for great weapons, with the exception of being able to pull off quick attacks.
2. Great weapon power stance has FAR higher poise damage
3. You get 2 running or rolling attacks.
4. If you hit triangle at the same time as L1/L2, you eliminate your startup frames and your hitbox comes out immediately (this is a quick attack).
5. Stamina damage is VERY high. (with ivory warrior ring you can shield break with a single L1 or L2)
6. The R1 and R2 moveset of the left arm weapon is overwritten, so high stat weapons with bad movesets become very viable. Same for weapons with good 1H movesets but bad 2H movesets.
7. The damage output seems to be ~70% of the damage of each weapon's normal R1 or R2 attack, combined. So both hits of an L1 does ~1.4x moveset modifier and both hits of an L2 does ~1.7x.
8. You can use a staff to buff your L-arm weapon and a resin to buff your R-arm weapon for dual buffs.
9. Each power stance attack hits twice as much as the normal R2s, so bleed/poison damage doubles.

Here's a few example PvP builds for power stance:

Straight sword + Greatsword (example: Sun Sword + Claymore, Blue Flame + Watcher GS)
Greatsword + Lost Sinner Sword (Example: Claymore + LSS)
Katana + Warped Sword (esp. for poison builds)
Twin daggers (esp. for poison builds)
Estoc/Rapier + Warped Sword
Straight sword +
Drakekeeper's greataxe + Greatsword
Majestic Greatsword + Straightsword
Estoc/Rapir + Mace
Spear + Any wide / 360 degree weapon

Easiest way to learn how to abuse the benefits of power stance is to use a thrusting straight sword (like Fume Sword or Sun Sword or Ashen Warrior Sword) with a greatsword. You get a thrust attack, a quick slash attack, a heavy slash attack, and a 360 degree bash all on one decent set of weapons.

>>167149678
Big Hat Logan and the pyromancy dude appear to be unliving it up. I'm sure they have a sad story I missed because I never did pyro/sorc builds

>>167150049
Even an armor set that isn't just recycled trash would be nice
And I'd like somewhere that's in line with the crumbling fantasy medieval like world rather than horrible brown shit with a constant orange sky and shit tier filter
I wanna scale crumbling castles of failing kingdoms again at least

>>167150160
Both go insane or hollow and die trying to kill the player

>>167150160
After you rescue him, kill seath, and buy out his sorceries, Big hat can now study crystallization at the duke's archives. He ends up going insane trying to study the secrets to immortality however, and you have to put him out of his misery after finding him wandering around Seath's library half naked.

Laurentius discovers you obtained pyromancy from Quelaana, and he asks about it. If you tell him, he goes off to blighttown and dies before reaching the bonfire, going hollow.

You are the sad story.

>>167150160
Logan becomes insane and hollow
>>167150278
Where is Laurentius after he goes to find Quelana?

>>167149678
Merchants, but most don't even have a story to begin with

>>167150314
Down below

>>167150065
Yeah okay so as I suspected, you don't combine the same kind of weapon twice to do more damage (cause twohanding is better for that), instead you combine different weapon types to have access to a hilarious range of different attacks

>>167150439
Yes.

The only time where you try to do the whole dual damage thing is combining twin greathammers (like dragon tooth for the extra elemental resistance) or twin ultra greatswords (like smelter swords) so you can 1-hit kill people at lower SM PvP or low level arena.

>>167150606
I'll be honest with you, I mostly care about PvE
If I ever get into PvP I'll just get backstabbed repeatedly, if my DS1 playthrough is any indication

>>167150663
DS1 was by far the worst for backstab fishing

>>167150314
>Logan becomes insane
yes
>and hollow
no

>>167150663
In PvE, power stancing twin weapons and spamming L1s is still very viable. L1s take up more stamina and do about the same damage as a 2HR2, but you can do them much faster and in quick succession.

For PvE, straight sword + greatsword (like longsword + bastard sword) is a very solid moveset that gives you good DPS but lets you still be fast enough to deal with small enemies. You can swap the longsword for a claymore when fighting bosses and L1 spam away.

>>167150663
DS2's PvP is mostly about rollcatching with R1s and the rock paper scissors of elemental vs physical defense. It's got fewer dominating strategies than DS1 did with backstabbing, but 2H buffed+infused katanas with a few support spells (heavy homing soul arrow, crystal soul mass) can melt through most players easily since there are few easy counters to the strategy.

Has the game been patched since the last DLC?
If so, is FTH still trash?
Are great swords good still?

>>167150793
Yeah I just meant to say I don't really need those PvP tips, but obviously a stance where you can always decide between doing a series of quick attacks or one damaging one is useful in PvE as well

>>167150773
even NPCs in the game call losing your mind "going hollow" regardless of whether or not the player is actually hollowed out (any of the merchants). it seems like the generic phrase used for going nuts in the Souls universe

>>167149834
>Traveling merchant
>Quest line
huehuehue

If you want to be an autist and exclude everything outside of DS1 then Ingward at least got a happy ending.

>>167150903
Yeah it's very weird to stand around in hollow form and have Andre talking about you not going hollow and similar conversations

>>167150910
A lot of people murdered him to get Kaathe.

>>167150663
The most bullshit you'll fight in DS2 PvP is when someone rushes at you with a 2H katana or rapier and 2 hit stuns you every time you try to run/roll/attack, so every few seconds you keep being clipped and staggered, losing 25% of your health each time until you die.

That, or a red iron twinblade or santier's spear with ivory warrior ring and stone ring, constantly using spin2win. The attack will break through shields and lasts so long that most players can't roll out of it without being clipped.

Hex spammers is third, players who stand back far away and spam dark orb with alternating great resonant soul to throw you off. You have to perfectly time 10 rolls in a row just to get close enough to them to attack, unless you hard swap to a rebel's greatshield and dark quartz ring.

If you can handle those three things, then the rest is fun.

>>167151041
>Hex spammers is third, players who stand back far away and spam dark orb with alternating great resonant soul to throw you off. You have to perfectly time 10 rolls in a row just to get close enough to them to attack, unless you hard swap to a rebel's greatshield and dark quartz ring.
Really? Sorceries were so easy to dodge in DS1

>>167150903
>>167150773
>>167150314

I think it's about the degree of hollowing. If you lose your -humanity- then you are technically 'hollowing' but you don't go hollow until you lose all your humanity and your will to live / sentience.

Andre is referring to the latter when he says don't go hollow.

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>>167151029
Just PvPfags interested in twinking. Killing 4kids early nets you pretty much nothing as far as PvE is concerned.

>>167151132
Oh yeah definitely, you only go "true hollow" if you lose your will to continue (almost all the NPCs are at that point already, that's why they keep laughing after every dialog)
They all refer to that as going hollow though, which means the term is just inconsistently used with regard to the player hollowing
Going true hollow for the chosen undead would be stopping the playthrough I guess?

>>167151081
In DS1, leveling up raises defense in all of your stats. Armor also had defense in most stats.

In DS2, physical and elemental defenses are completely different, so if you don't level up Int/Fth and don't equip elemental-specific equipment, you can have absolutely terrible elemental defense. 30% reduction vs 70% reduction if you equip anti-magic rings and armor.

Also, DS2 sorceries have worse tracking but fly much faster forward and take less time to cast than DS1, so you can spam them far more easily. There is also quite a lot more of them so they vary in their timing a lot more, and some equipment can cast multiple spell types too. It makes sorceries the masters of newbie entrapment since they can spam spells you've never seen before at a safe distance, while you have literally no elemental defense.

>>167147608

Yeah, but it kinda sucks if you want to resume playing the next day and forgot where the heck you have to go.

>>167151191
Killing Ingward early nets you the very large ember, which is absolutely worth it for PvE. I do it every time so I can get a +15 weapon before sens or O&S.

>>167151363
I fucking suck at memorizing places and my sense of direction is practically nonexistent
Even I never fucking forgot a shortcut just because I stopped playing for a bit

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About to head for Blighttown, what to expect?

Is there any point in DS2 where you practically need a shield to beat an area? Like Gwyn in 1
Yes I know you're all gods at the game and I need to git gud and beat him naked with only a twohanded weapon

>>167151447
low fps, toxin, poison, mosqutios, spider titties, sadness and then hapiness once you see the sunlight again
Good time.