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>Was crushed by the might of Donger Man's giant bell:
>>167037913

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Shills will post detailed information on February 8
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Can we all agree that DaS3 is the easiest game in the series thanks to the bloodborne stamina and heal mechanics being mixed with souls formula
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Dark Souls 3 confirmed hardest Souls game last thread, difficulty fags with nostalgia go home
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>>167086247
No, we can't.
Fuck off to /v/.
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>>167086247
I found dark souls 2 to be eaiser. It had some difficult encounters, but the bosses were pretty easy. It got harder in the dlc though.
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>>167085423
10$
assuming the next DLC is equally good per unit of size (and that the size increase is proportional to the price increase), then the season pass will have been worth it.
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>>167086304
Tbh I think DS1 was harder but ONLY thanks to bullshittery mechanics/area/whathaveyou.
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>american time on /vg/
>pointless, retarded arguing instead of simple game discussions begins once again
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>dat glimpse of Velstadt kneeling if you run out of Vendrick's Memory

dat fealty
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>>167086363
It got harder than vanilla dark souls 2 that is.
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>>167084639
>the fact that unpatched 1 was more challenging proves that anything less than it wasn't difficult
the reason why it's hard to name 5 games that are more difficult is because it isn't a clear criteria

Assuming you mean "learning and non-menial talent required to pass," I'd say games like hotline miami were harder (unless you used the rabbit mask in 1, but if we're comparing design mistakes like that then I can just as easily say that manus is the easiest boss ever cause you can shoot him from outside the fog) given the broader and more complex array of bad options I has to sift through to find the best course of action.

Most of the other games I find more challenging than souls are PvP games (harder in the sense that they're harder than souls's PvE and PvP combined), though those are a sketchy comparison since a lot of the difficulty comes from players rather than developers, even though developers may have given players a large amount of room to create difficulty (which is less the case in souls PvP, save for when you make it literally impossible for an opponent to win, which typically requires minimal ingenuity). I'm referring more to things like quake than fighting games; a fair bit of the skill in fighting games is what I'd call menial (though making players have to practice combos is often a necessary evil on the developers part).

There were bosses in games like undertale which were harder than souls bosses. Obviously the game as a whole is more laid back, so I'd be hesitant to call it harder, and there are some ancient wyveren tier fights since the game isn't prioritizing difficulty, but from boss to boss in souls games you don't really change much. you need to figure out when their hitboxes are active, then you can usually roll in almost any which way. In UT hitboxes are displayed in an obvious fashion, and you're expected to figure out what to do about them instead of just identifying them and using iframes every time.

Word limit/oregano.
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Was that image of a summoned magic curved greatsword legit for dlc2?
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>>167086247
I think it's the 30 second apart bonfires that do it. DS3 PVE is easy as fuck unless you're a sorcerer because rolling/healing is brainless.

The difficult bosses are the ones that punish rolling, but Champ and Sully can get parry spanked no problem.

This leaves NK and SoC, with SoC not being too bad overall and NK only having his rough second stage.
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>>167086407
>european time on /vg/
>thread is dead
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>>167086293
>it can be cheesed so it's easy
Those can mostly be chalked up to design oversights on the developer's part. Manus can be shot from outside the bossfog, people still call him one of the harder bosses of ds1. Not to mention pre patch DWGR
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Husbando material right here
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>>167086507
it's the pontiff Curved sword WA
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>>167086363
Fucking Ice Rats.
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>>167086609

burnt ivory king is more of a man to be frank
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>>167086626
aw damn.

I really want to summon a curved greatsword
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>>167086609
get destroyed
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>>167085969
>DaS3 imagery and gameplay
>music is of Sir Alonne, a DaS2 boss

>>167086335
It's more of a shame that DaS2's director decided to ignore him. If he had been done right the first time, then maybe Miyazaki would have saw fit to bring more of him back than his greatshield.

>he doesn't keep following you, becoming stronger and having fewer weaknesses each time (e.g. can't be parried anymore)
>he doesn't use a different weapon with each encounter, and with each defeat he doesn't drop a fragment of his soul, allowing you to trade for his weapons which gradually unlock
>he doesn't use the environment against you, like you did against him at FoFG
>you can't get his armor after defeating him one final time
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>>167086763
There was some dark souls 2 intro footage.
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I think that Jailers are way creepier than Mind Flayers.
The fact that it almost looks like they're floating when they walk.
That creepy little laugh they have as they creepily run toward you...
Or maybe it's just my fetish for masks.
All of it seems creepier than tentacle face.
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>>167086592
Games design with real difficulty in mind would pose a challenge against a player trying their hardest to win.
Take whole actual genres that require some effort from the player like Bullet Hells where at best a boss has one blind spot in a single pattern and everything else forces the player to not hold back. Or roguelikes RNG fuckery, even if you pick the more forgivable ones like DCSS, they still require more of the player than Souls does. Or rhythm games, specially those that forgive nearly no mistake.

Souls series, even 3, is a thing people have to actively gimp themselves to add challenge whereas games that are hard from the get go ask nothing else from the player but that they clear it without pulling any punches
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>>167087102
>RNG is difficulty
what
In most cases RNG is completely player-independant. Reacting to a randomly generated level might create difficulty through variety, but "hey, this time you rolled the dice and got a spear that deals a 10th the damage" in the roguelike sense isn't.

>rhythm games
I mean they're probably the best thing to compare the souls games too due to the similarities, but if anything I'd say what makes souls easy aside from cheese is just the fact that they're essentially watered down rhythm games as far as boss combat is concerned. You just do it a bunch of times until it's muscle memory, there's often little to no ingenuity. Yeah, it's hard, but only in the most straightforward sense. It's difficult in the same sense that going to the gym and getting yolked is difficult.
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>press circle
>nothing happens
>die
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>>167086592
>Manus can be shot from outside the bossfog
I just knew about this...
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>>167087089
Best mob in DS3 imo, along with the Failed Dragons
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>>167087089
They're just annoying. Just rush them so they can't bullshit my HP even while I'm staggering them.
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>>167087089
Something about how their strengths were attributed made me apathetic after a while. I was usually pretty conviced I was going to lose my health either way, so I stopped worrying about it, and they often couldn't realyl catch me. I'd have preferred it if the slow-down effect came on more quickly and the health drain were slower.
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>>167087089
Neither are creepy to me, but both are a cool challenge. Just wish that section of the game was better designed or rather, expanded.
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7 days until Nioh ruins the souls series
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>>167088223
>only 5 weapon types
>mystic arts are just generic buffs to your playstyle
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>Archbis**p
Fucking FromSoft
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>Dark Souls gave me a fetish for masks/humanoids without a human face

What fetish did Dark Souls give you ?
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how grating would an offhand estoc / warped sword build be?

ds2
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>>167088369
>Dark Souls gave me a fetish for masks/humanoids without a human face
more like haydee

>What fetish did Dark Souls give you
Nuns kinda; prior to this point I'd ironically only seen them portrayed through pornography, where they were usually pretty un-nunlike from the get-go instead of pulled into the mindset against their will. It's less of a direct dominance thing and more of a hatefucking thing almost, I just want to give Irina dark tomes because I'm mad she's able to be so un-edgy that easily or something. Though ds more or less just gave me the idea of that, I don't think of ds directly when those things come to mind.
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I have a SL 100 Pyromancer, mainly using the gargoyle spear and Onyx blade and I want to respec the character for the upcoming dlc as I never tried the Demon Fist.
How do I build this? I figured I must have a bit more End to make numerous strike and a bit more physical stats like str or dex
Or perhaps I just need to focus on Int and Faith?
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>>167089375
demon fists are str weapon
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>>167089459
Fuck really? I don't want to do another str character. I thought that the int and fth scaling mattered more
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>>167086151
Did someone say Donger Man?
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How do I fix my game being minimized everytime I click on my second monitor?
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>>167090280
the solution you're looking for is borderless fullscreen window mode

t. guy with 2 monitors

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Borderless_fullscreen_windowed
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>>167090280
open gesture menu
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>>167090208
how terrible you need to be not only to need summons in ds2 but actually get hit by any of his attacks when you can strafe him to death
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>>167090280
Literally just google "borderless gaming".
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>>167090349
Not him, but when I run DaS3 in borderless fullscreen I get weird lines, well not lines, more like tearing. Not really visible when not moving but the lines are still here. It gets really visible when moving.
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>>167089375
That dog kinda looks like Nito from the thumbnail, with the nose as the skull.
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>only difference with mound makers is that they invade a little higher than reds and have invasion rules
what a waste
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>>167090685
Fug, I thought that was the whole thing. Didn't notice it was a dog.
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>>167090381
protip: look more closely at the video, it's not personal footage
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>>167090489
Deactivate vsync in game and in your graphics card software, then download and install Riva Tuner. Lock your frames with. It'll also give you better frame times, therefore a smoother experience.
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When does this shit fuck off? It's been a couple weeks now. Want to go back and start creating other builds.
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>>167090770
mound makers get different behavior for the white soapstone as well
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>>167090920
Haha PCfat.
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>>167090920
You probably still have invalid content present. Only way to be certain is to delete all of your characters and start again.
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>>167090920
>using CE
I'm going to laugh if/when From retroactively bans everyone who ever used that. Especially after seeing what Valve did to lmaobox users.

>>167090770
They can also invade boss rooms, shit's fun as all hell.
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souls newfag here. if i want to start pvping should i go all the way to ng+2 for the rings or are the +0 rings good enough?
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>>167091252
+0 rings are fine.
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have they said the recomended level range for the ringed city?
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>>167091252
Depends on your SL
For SL100/120/125 you should probably get the +1/+2's(or life+3)
For lower SL pvp(50-ish) the +0's will do

That being said the differences are small and not that big of an impact on how well you do
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>>167090349
>>167090413

thanks
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>>167091012

Nah I deleted literally everything.
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>>167091252
that would be a waste of time.
start pvping when you're past SL50
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>>167091559
>past SL50
spam that red orb in the undead settlement as soon as you get it nigga
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>>167091363
>>167091481
alright thanks for the answers
im gonna be sl 50 range so ill stick with the +0s
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>>167091559
>not PVPing at SL30
Better to get started at low levels, where more people don't know what they're doing.
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>>167091428
No, but I'm guessing it's just before fighting soul of cinder. Would fit perfectly too.
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>>167091627
>Soul newfag
>have him fight twinks or ganks with little weapon variety
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>>167091252
most players are dogshit so it wont really matter

the increase is very small anyway
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>>167090208
If it was das3 he wouldn't even attack
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>Weapon with really fun move set
>Can barely use it in PvP because anything other the fastest R1 spam will get me killed
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>>167093335
Which weapon?
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>>167091136
They basically do already, but it's piss easy to get around the bans. And because valve and fromsoft don't have any connection with their servers valve doesn't give a shit what you do in dark souls 1/2/3
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>dogs in DaS
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>>167094461
Dogs are annoying in every game
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>yfw you get trolled by an invader the same way you troll people when invading.
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>>167093690
Crow Quills. I'm actually exaggerating a little, some of the L1 moves have let me catch and kill people trying to get out of my range.
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>>167094461
>6 wolves + big wolf while an archer is shooting timed explosives at you
Fuck the snowfield desu
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>>167094461
Not as bad as das 3 ones
>Poke with tiny dagger
>Dog was pushed across the room
Bloodborne engine was a mistake
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>>167095085
Punching a dog and watching it go flying is so satisfying though
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>>167086363
What's up with the beginning of Dark Souls 2? It's easily some of the most unforgivable parts of the series. With no ADP, terrible stamina in a game with a very large focus on stamina management, and no 100 physical shield, it's pretty brutal. Combined with only 1 estus flask, maybe 2, a dwindling supply of lifegems, and the HP loss on death, the beginning is easily way harder than any other part of the game.
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>>167088369
slight giantess fetish
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>>167088369
>without a human face
but then how can they provide thee succ?
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>>167088369
*unzip*
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>>167094461
>dogs in DeS
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Nameless king is hard with 20 vig 20 end
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Just beat the game and I am so fucking shit at farming souls. Got my ass handed to me all the time with the damn winged knights.
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>>167095970
This is growing on me
Last time I did the Dancer I was having real trouble focusing on the fight

>>167096124
I will provide the succ

>>167096129
S-stop
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>>167096258
>You can literally drink flasks and use gestures while staying in his hit distance between combos
>Hard
Don't even try to play old souls games
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>>167094809
Dude you just run through. I get the millwoodbow as early as I can on every character.
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>>167096510
stray demon is so hard
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>>167087089
They're fun to fight at first but once you find out that their gimmick can be completely trivialized in many ways, they're wasted potential without another pressuring factor. It's justified that they're naturally weak in close quarters and can be separated for 1v1. But for new players who find out this tactic, it becomes a tiring grind and for experienced ones who have tried more than one way, killing them is a joke. They're the only thing that's legit threatening other than the basilisk spam.
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>invade some guide using shitter using hidden body to cheese the game
>he uses it against you thinking it actually makes him invisible.
Silly motherfucker.
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>>167096591
Just want them large titanite shards though
>>167096510
Ds1 bosses suck dick for the most part.
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>>167096651
gwyn so difcult
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>>167096651
At least, he could punish you for being retarded
Aside of being hit by Soul of Cinder 4x combo, the biggest punishment in the das3 is needing to roll away and use instant flask
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what did Vicar Amelia look like while she was still human?
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>>167096371
>I will provide the succ
fair enough
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>>167096825
Play dlc
>>167096743
It should, too bad glorious a-team was too afraid to pick nice things from the past games, like des
I still miss "fuck you phantoms" miracle
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>>167096287

Follow this. Really easy. Just fish backstabs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdUWpQNpBZ8
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>>167096931
>Play dlc
what do you mean?
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Looking for fun roleplay character ideas for a new file in DS3.

To be clear, I mean choosing a character from fiction and restricting my gear and items to fit that character. The friend I'm doing this with has chosen Simon Belmont, using only whips, throwing knives, and leather armour for example.

Got any ideas?

If I can't think of anything more interesting I'll do Conan or Guts
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fight club?
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>>167096931
You want actually invisibility?
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>>167096824
Are you saying Nameless King is easier than the 4 stray demon copy-paste bosses?

DaS1 fags everyone

Really makes you think
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What stats do I need to start seeing better damage out of my Claymore?
I have a Claymore +1 and a bastard sword +1 and my damage is much better with the BS

Any tips for how to level my character for the claymore?
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>>167096824
>At least, he could punish you for being retarded
Well it's official, you never get punished for being retarded in 3.
What the fuck.
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>>167097086
do the one spear using guy from the Castlevania Genesis game or one of the support characters from 3, maybe even Dracula idk nigga
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>>167091537
Did you try deleting figuratively everything, too?
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>>167097331
Best with quality infusion. Shoot for 25/25 for now. Should also be the most stat efficient. When you've got points left you can go for 40/40.
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>>167097342
Yes, because literally nothing can oneshot you and you have fast as fuck heals and infinity stamina, if you want to recover
Miyazaki couldn't even copy bloodborne right, das3 bosses feel like a joke
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>>167097541
>DaS1 fag
Really makes us think
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is there some trick to black gultch, or am I seriously supposed to just break all 10 billion statues?
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>>167097479
I think I should hold out on infusing it before I get to 25/25.
My stats probably arnt high enough to pay back damage with the infusion
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fashion time /dsg/?
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What kind of bullshit do I need to do to kill holy knight hodrick for sirris' questline? His riposte is utter fucking faggotry, one shots me at SL 70.
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>>167097086
Indiana jones would be a nice pair, but having another whip is kinda meh
there's the thief, the sorcerer, death and dracula from the first game. can't remember more
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>>167097939

I just spammed Black Flame. Just play passive.
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>>167097939
Stop spamming R1 like a retard and you wont get parried.
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>>167097682
You're supposed to break 100 billion statues. Or just use these safe spots. The former is more effective if you're new to Black Gulch so I recommend it.
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>>167098051
Are you fucking retarded? How does spamming make parrying any easier? If I approach him carefully and make a single swing, he STILL ONLY NEEDS TO GET THE PARRY TIMING RIGHT ONCE. It doesn't matter how many times I attack. If I attack him once every five fucking minutes he could still parry me if he timed it right.
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tell me your hopeful predictions for DLC2
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>>167096510
there are some bosses where you can get hit by their attack, get knocked on your ass, stand up, immediately chug your estus, and still have time to dodge the next attack
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>>167098253
Oh, and make sure to unlock the second bonfire.
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>>167098036
If you go passive, he kills Sirris. She's incompetent as fuck.
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>>167098382

You have tried just using a greatshield and blocking all his shit. Maybe she can do shit then.
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>>167098280
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>>167098280
3-4 bosses. One of them is really hidden.

Neat lore.
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>>167098280
It's going live beyond it's expectations.
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>>167098280
Lots of plotholes
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>>167097682
or you can just run past them and accept a little poisoning
it's a really short area
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>>167098276
Ive never once been parried by him and can parry him easiy. Git gud scrub.
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>>167097683
you can literally see how the damage will change with the infusion before you do it
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>>167097682
fire arrow the tar pools
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>>167098276
pvp parries are more about prediction than reaction unless you're using a 1h UGS or something equally slow

idk how NPC red phantoms do it though
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>>167098582
the problem isn't the poison, it's the fact that the shots stagger me so I get ganked by the enemies, otherwise I would just run it
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>>167098280
3 bosses, dark miracles, no unbalanced weapons, neat rings, good invasion areas. And lastly, I hope it comes with a good balance patch.
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>>167098280
archdragon greatshield

110% physical
99% magical
110% fire
1.49% lightning
7500% dark
100 stability
100 weight
99 str 99 dex requirement
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>>167087089

>Lothric set
>Jailer helm
>get a snazzy cloak from head to toe
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>>167098813
They read inputs Also, most npcs and enemies have a tell when theyre in "im going to parry you" mode. NPCs will two-hand then immediately one-hand again but wont raise theyre shield. Skeletons hold their weapons across their chest. Just look for out of the ordinary behavior.
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>>167098880
don't forget that when its 2h it has 1000 ar and uses the washing pole running attack and that it has a great magic shield weapon art that actually restores FP instead of costing any
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>>167099083
*their
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>>167098880
>get hit by a sword
>it heals you

That'd be funny
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>>167098818
oh yeah that's the weird-as-fuck out-of-place das2 headshot mechanic
projectiles that hit your head always send you into that long-ass stagger animation regardless of poise, and a lot of the statues are right at head height
old bell helm fixes this but i think you need NG+ to have it by that point

related: you can perma-stagger people in pvp with good aim + a bow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1pv30lCv4
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>>167098280
Multiple zones featuring intense combat in built areas.
Multiple good bosses with one super duper extra hype boss to cap it all off.
Multiple cool new armor sets, looking forward to Rap's armor.
Black Phantom enemies added on NG+ cycles.
DS3 equivalent of chalice dungeons
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>>167098813
They read inputs
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oh here's the original video on headshots
nice fucking meme FROM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEOmS6iuZ8
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>>167097682
Just sprint to the fog gate and hope for the best.
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>mfw I have to put up with shitty clothes untill I'm able to pick up the set I want in the Boreal Valley
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>>167088369
Dragonesses.
Feet.
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does ds3 have any weaponarts as godlike as the channeler's trident or alonne sword from ds2?
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>>167098684
Parrying doesn't require any skill you retarded faggot.
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Yorshka isn't at the prison tower. What the fuck gives?
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>>167099517
If its that much of a bother you can always ask someone here to drop a set early, i understand the importance of fashion souls

>>167099824
The spin arts can get you pretty good damage if you hit the full combo, buffs just make them even more ridiculous. Good luck hitting them though
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>>167099927
she ded
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>>167099829
In that case it should be your go-to strategy for killing hodrick.
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Whats the best stats to get damage out of the dragon stones? Int/fai at 30/30?
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>>167097086
Dante from Devil May Cry
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>>167099970
I've never even gone to the tower before. Does she leave at a certain part of the game?
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>>167099927
you've unlocked the 3rd DLC
you gave in to the tongue didn't you, ya slut
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>>167099824
There's a Katana with a copy of the Alonne sword's special as its WA.

The new Channeler's Trident is the the Parting Flame, which causes you to strike an over-dramatic pose for about 4 seconds. It's not a meme, though.

Most WAs are just extra attacks in the moveset that aren't particularly worst FP or their overblown stamina costs. The few useful ones are just combo-filler that add ~200 or so damage compared to R1-R1.
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>>167100049
I didn't offer any tongue, I re-allocated my stat points once.
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>>167100042
no, she never leaves her chair
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why was the abyss watcher's so easy, and why was it my 4th boss? is this game that short?
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>>167096931
There's Chameleon and Obscuring Ring.
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>dragon form doesn't get boosted damage with unarmed anymore
DaS3 just feels like a huge step back in some cases.
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>>167100341
>why it was my 4th boss
If that's the case then you're going out of sequence. Have you been to the Cathedral of the Deep?
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>>167100157
possibly that triggers it too.
talked to sirris?
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>>167100416
It feels like a huge "we just didn't really care all that much."
All that attention to detail and love put into diverse playstyle options is gone.
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>>167100592

I'm lost family
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Haha! assholes get stabbed in their asshole! shit, its like poetry or somethin.
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>>167100723
Just helped her kill her grandfather.
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>>167100341
The whole game is piss easy. They made tonnes of hand-holding concessions towards casual players in the combat design and it really comes through in fights like that which are supposed to be "difficult" but aren't even remotely.

And yeah, the game is short. The shortest souls game. IIRC there's like 19 bosses but all of the bigshots who got a segment in the intro cinematic are all chumps like the AW and they're all dead by like the 2/3.
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>das3 doesn't have backstep iframes
for what purpose
dodging shit with backsteps was the coolest shit
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>>167100728
Different play styles are still totally viable though. Only thing I found lacking was poison builds, dark builds also kind of fall short.
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>>167100875
Uuuuuummmmmm... Is that its butt?
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>>167101164
Where can i subscribe to your blog ?
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>>167101164
mouth
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>>167100341
It's really easy to overlevel or "overupgrade" for that boss fight. They are really fun if you got shit for upgrades and so on. Pontiff will be much harder though even when you have strong weapons.
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>>167101040
Everything is viable in pve.
That doesn't make them fun, engaging or rewarding to play.
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>>167097754
Fashion time.
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>>167101164
it eats the shit that flow down the sewer
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>>167099064
This isn't Lothric set
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>>167101353
but you didn't post any fashion?
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>>167101224
darksoulsbutts.blog
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>>167101272
Pontiff's pretty easy, too.
Both of those bosses have the issue that their aggressive movesets were overcompensated for by their low health and damage. If you go into Pontiff with a +4 or +5 GS, you will probably be able to trade him to death with hyperarmour. He tickles and crumples like wet paper.

The only reason Pontiff is difficult for some people is that they panic and blow most of their stamina rolling 8 times to avoid 3 attacks.
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>>167101353
>that shield
>>>fashion
disgusting
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>>167101285
Still had fun with all the different playstyles.
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>>167101492
Abyss watcher and vordt definitely need more HP imo. Still, both of those bosses are really fun when you are underleveled and so on.
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>>167101272

I was like level 23 with a +1 lothric sword. I had the dragon shield though.
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>>167101020

That would be cheap.
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>>167101226
>>167101386
So the gaping hole with flailing tendrils is its butt?
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>>167101657
That's pretty low. I did a valorheart run and the boss was pretty tough because of my shit damage and low level.

Straight swords are always really good I guess.
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>>167101020
>backstep into running r1, Now with iframes
Don't get me wrong, I liked those iframes too
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>>167101353
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>>167101631
All bosses could use a hp buff. On every playthrough I felt like all bosses didn't have enough hp.
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>>167101353
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>>167101353
I gots the best fashions boys.

You need to focus on a color or a theme.
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>>167101353
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>>167101353
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>>167101986
This is true, except for maybe certain ones.

Like, I think Champion Gundyr's HP is perfect where it is. It's low enough to be practical to kill early and balances the "Aggressive but fragile boss" paradigm well. He's one of the few in the game that hits hard enough to justify his HP pool being lower. Greatwood is fine as-is, too. Mainly because fuck the Greatwood, that fight doesn't need to last any longer.

But damn near everything else could use a big increase in HP. Especially the early-midgame bosses who seem to be balanced assuming you'll be going in with a weapon that's like 3 upgrade levels below average while the game throws mountains of unnecessary upgrade materials at you.
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>>167101834
mai waifu was the sanctum mace
backstep into running r1
* and did i mention the running r1 is a lance charge with a greatmace for some reason
* and did i mention the lance charge with poison resin is enough to instantly poison any player
* and did i mention it also knocks them on their ass so you can cast firestorm or heavenly thunder at them
<3<3<3<3
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Anyone for DaS1 duels?
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FIGHTCLUB.
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>>167102301
Nameless king does not need a HP increase.
I can understand his damage and HP pool where it is, being a god, but any increase would be unfair

And I agree with champion Gundyr
Probably my most favorite boss in the game. Fun, but not unfair. The nameless king for me was nothing but frustration
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>>167102468
where?
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>>167102301
Champ and Greatwood are the only one who're fine as they are.

Even in NG+7, in which bosses are supposed to have more hp, they still don't have enough. Abyss Watchers on NG+7 is a joke, yes they hit hard but the hp they have is pathetic. Same goes for other bosses.
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>>167088369
Technically not souls but BB gave me a huge hardon for alien mind rape with Iosefka and then Adeline in the DLC. Something about a girl with a cute voice gradually liquifying and degenerating into a blob as she gets drunk off ayylium brain cum is fascinating.
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>>167102468

Yeah where bitch
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>>167102631
Most bosses gain an unironic 1% more HP in NG+ in DaS3. They even casualized that element to oblivion for some godforsaken reason
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>>167102619
>>167102719
I DON'T KNOW
SOMEONE HOST ONE
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>>167102637
>4chan
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>nearly 10k from downscaled butt buddy
Holy shit, it's what, SL150 or something?
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>>167102910
>10k
It's nothing
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>play DS3 for the first time recently
>tfw beaten Nameless King in one try
The only one that really gave me headaches was Dancer and Cinder.
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>>167102910
whatever level takes 237050 souls to get to the next.
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>>167102834
you host it then
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>>167102834

You host
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I need /fasouls/' advice for a build. I'm looking for a Flame Crusader look with a focus on the colors black and red. Any ideas?
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>>167103245
>>167103394
Can't. All bosses are dead on every character in range.
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>>167103516
Well aint you just the little engine who COULDNT
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>>167103516

good
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are there any summons available for sif
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>>167103516
Kill Iudex
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>>167103726
if youre a qt you can summon me :)
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>tfw want to make another character but hate going through the beginning areas
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>>167103726
>needing help against Sif
Are you talking about original Sif, or shitty clone of Sif?
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>>167103516
make a backup, go to ng+ kill tutorial gundyr and host at high wall, then just rollback your save after you're done.
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>>167103798
Take a break and come back ?
Use dried finger + way of blue ?
Have a friend drop you the weapons you need ?
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>>167103849
That sounds like a lot of work to host a fight club instead of participating in one
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>>167103798
its the opposite for me
i just kinda lose interest after getting the lordvessel
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>>167103798
Goooood, let the hate flow through you.
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>>167103885
that sounds like 5 minutes of setup if you're slow.
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>>167104014
Then do it, faggot.
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>>167104042
We didn't ask for FC
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>>167104042
I'm not the one asking for a fight club friendo
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>Come up with a fun idea for an invasion build
>Get all the equipment
>Get all the levels
>Get the fashion
>Reach the area I want
>Start invading
>Remember that 99% of invasions are disgusting normies or epic memester weebs getting carried through the game by password phantoms and seeds
>Remember that no matter how much effort you put into a build or fashion people will only see you as an obstacle in the way of their cheevos
>Remember that no matter how much you try to make an invasion fun for both you and the host you'll still get meme gestures spammed at you
haha woops back to the arena i go
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>>167104271
>arena
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>>167104060
>>167104267
You both literally just asked me to host one for you. You fags are practically begging for an FC.
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So DaS3 causes my WIFI to overheat and im not sure why, the temp is usually around 70-75 when play DaS3 but sometimes it will start to stutter in the game and the CPU temp will spike to 90 until i pull out the adapter which fixes everything pretty instantly and the temp goes back to normal and the game plays fine, except if i try pluggung the adapter back in nothing happens, i have to quit out of the game put the adapter back in and then start the game again which gets pretty tedious, does anyone know why this is happening? I havent had this problem in other games.

I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling the adapter drivers and it hasnt helped.
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>>167104352
k then, no fc
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>>167104271
Just use some gimmick oneshot build and make fags cry. I've been bullying normies in Lothric castle since launch and it never really gets old.
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>>167104352
>durr i can't host, i killed all the bosses
>but you can
>fuck off with your begging
?
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>>167104271
>trying to make invasion fun for the host
>not invading as a purple who don't care about no seeds
Those were your first two fundamental errors. If you're not going full grapist mode and invading to make life hell for the host, you're not doing it right.
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>>167104356
the wifi adapter?
what the fuck
maye you need new drivers for it
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>>167101000
>nostalgiafags
Holy shit

DeS is the shortest game you fucktard
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>>167103824
Whos the clone?
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>>167104550
>the wifi adapter?
>what the fuck

Thats exactly what i thought when pulling out the adapter fixed the issue, Guess ill have to get a new one, im just worried im gunna buy it and then the issue is still there.
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>>167104609
rat vanguard
his soul becomes the best pyromancy in the game tho so he's cool
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>>167104271
Lets hear that epic meme build you have in mind, bet it's trash.
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>tfw smiting heretics with just miracles
REPENT
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>>167104271
Although on the other hand
>Decide to give being invaded a go
>Rub my magic finger
>Invader arrives!
>Invader doesn't dare fight a lone host
>Invader hides amongst enemies unless I pop a seed
>Invader hides from me until the level/enemies kill me
>Invader is in general a big dumb fag
>Suddenly remember/understand why the automatic reaction of most of these people is to treat invaders with scorn

>>167104459
>>167104535
The temptation to just go all out and become a griefer is immense but I can't make myself do it. I'm too much of a fucking honourfag - actually it's not even honour, I'm just too concerned about being polite/trying to let them have fun. Unless the host has like 2/3 phantoms or does some dumb shit first I can't help but try and play fair. Whenever I'm about to start being an absolute madman I just can't help but think "but what if they're nice? What if they're just trying to play through the game happily and me coming in and being mean would upset them?"

>>167104725
Corvian Knight cosplay. But, the DLC is surprisingly hard to invade in. I keep getting the same people and sometimes invasions take a while. Maybe I'm at the wrong level or something.
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>>167104271
>he can't deal with literal Chads happily running into your attacks
>he actually wants to make invasions fun for the host
Yes, go back on arena. Or better yet, to for honor, that seems to be the hot thing for FOTM shitters.
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>>167090208
>out of stamina, exhausted
>gets hit because of it
WHY DID THEY CHANGE THIS
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>>167105061
>Maybe I'm at the wrong level or something.
Probably. DLC is 60-80 for best results. Anything edngame or above is going to pit you almost exclusively against shitters sprinting through NG+ or a new arena build playthrough with a squad.

Invasions target first-playthroughs or not at all. If you;re beyond the range to hit people that have never touched that zone before, you're too high.
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>>167105091
i want to make a pyrotwink now
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>>167105192
I'm level 67. My weapons are +9 though, maybe that's what's stopping me. I assumed there'd be plenty of people with at least +7 weapons around.
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>>167105360
Do it.
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>>167105091
>Twinking
Like you're in any position to talk down on him. Where my fellow nontwink invaders at?
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>>167105592
+9 can go down to +6.
Bear in mind that you might, conversely, be too high. In midgame ranges you'll catch people running through the game to make a new build, who dove the DLC early just to sprint through and collect gear.

I'd make a save backup and try again at something around 75. See if the activity gets any better there.
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>>167104356
>So DaS3 causes my WIFI to overheat
lmfao try connecting an ethernet cable instead of using Wi-fi
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>>167105760
>Where my fellow nontwink invaders at?
Too busy getting raped by downscaled phantoms while i enjoy fun invasions.
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>>167105760
I'm invading darkroot
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>>167105789
Yeah, I'll try going up a bit more. I also made a save back up before upgrading my weapons to chunk levels so maybe I'll restore that if increasing SL doesn't work, in case it is WL that's the problem.
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>>167105091
>healing in your face and getting away with it
This is Dark Souls 3
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>>167105760
Playing DaS 2, the superior game for non cancer invasions
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>>167106073
I said go back to arena, faggot.
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29 equip load or 35 equip load with armor, which will help me more in ds2?
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>>167106076
>Ds2
>Good for anything
LOL
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>>167105970
>nontwink
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>>167106073
they need to make lloyd's the same speed as throwing knives or something
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Judging from these webms there's not much difference between low-level PvP and high-level PvP
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>>167105760
Invading the Catacombs and dealing with downscaled phantoms with bleeding using appropriately themed weapons. Literally the only twinked item on me is my hood, which is from the prayer set.
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>>167106229
Both you and him healed in eahc other's faces and didn't get punished for it. That's just DaS 3's awful estus system working. He didn't deserve that heal and you didn't deserve yours, but punishable heals isn't something From can add to this game, no.
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>>167106362
in high-level pvp the chaos vestiges kills people in 4 shots instead of 2
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>>167106363
Build?
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>>167106073
same shit happens in DS2, the game where there's a stat specifically to make chugging estus faster and where backstabs are shit
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>>167106387
>Both you and him healed in eahc other's faces and didn't get punished for it
Yes, and i prefer it this way unlike the shitfest of 2's "host and his butt buddies turtle in warmth with their shields up and r1 mash you if you get close".
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Are there nice Mound Makers or are they all cunts?
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>>167106362
>Judging from 1 anon's webms (...)
sure
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>>167106530
this happens in ds2 but not with estus but lifegems which are outrageously fast and if you baited attack your next healing is 100% safe
while as an invader you couldn't use consumable heals at all which is the most retarded From balance decision in ds2 after sm
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>>167106602
Depends if the host is a faggot or not? or if I want to eliminate his phantoms one by one then protect him against red just to push him off the map or kill him at the last minute?
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Does it bother you that the level-up waifu characters never have any sort of depth or even a personality?
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>>167106778
>lifegems being fast
they are noticeably slower than estus anon what are you talking about
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Is swordceries any good in DS1? If so, is the MLGS my best bet? Or is going Int/Dex and using Velka's Rapier better?
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>>167106980
you can move while using them and they are actually faster than estus
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>>167106530
You could completely stop estus and lifegems before they started healing in DaS2.

Don't defend DaS3's broken healing.
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>>167106602
I'm planning on making a mad man and using the boss invasion glitch to force co-op on people. Unless they attack me first just help them through the whole thing.
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>>167107063
I miss when these games were slower paced.
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>>167106989
>swordceries
>DS1
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>>167106602
I tried to get summoned as a MM in PvP hotspots like Pontiff or Farron and just deal with invaders. They ether don't summon me at all or the host just tries to kill me.
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>>167106989
Sorcery is extremely powerful in DaS1
Buffs are broken in DaS1, but there are no swordceries like soul greatsword or spellcasting weapons
Velka's Rapier doesn't do good damage on attacks but is great for ripostes/backstabs
Go for it but don't expect a challenge

You could balance it by doing an aggression mod black phantom run
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>>167106551
>have to resort to complaining about the other games

All Souls games are awful for PvP with one side having more players. Ganks in 3 aren't more or less bearable than in the rest of the series, it's just that they're prioritised. Besides, your complaint is about high SL invasions. If I invade in DaS 2 or 1 at the same SL as you are I'm in an even bigger advantage and I assure you I'll run into no players with warmth since they'd need to be very lucky with a drop or grind for it so early.

The point I'm making is that all healing systems have their flaws, but from an invasion standpoint, 1's and BB's are the closest we get to a good situation (1 with infinite heals for both sides if they farmed properly, but very slow ones that you need to earn or BB with parriable or punishable by very big AR weapons heals). DeS's system is the most broken, 2's is imbalanced and 3's is just balanced in a way it needlessly extends fights as you need to wear down every player.
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>>167107063
Showing mouthbreathing retards doesn't do you favour as i can easily punish those for healing in DS3 too. There's a reason everyone cried when DS2 arena had estus flasks.
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>>167107307
Same reason people cried about dual avelyn.
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>>167107307
You can't stop healing
You can't punish healing
You can only mitigate healing

Don't defend DaS3 healing

You know DaS3 invasions are making you an angrier, bitter person right
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>>167107410
sorry friendo it seems they have only made you an angrier, bitter person.
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>>167107410
>You can't punish healing
>Webm shows player getting punished for healing
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>>167107302
1's healing system was shit. Ds3 encourages the use of undead hunter charms. It encourages the use of a lot of items actually and thats what I like about it honestly.
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yo if i have a raw uchigatana +7 and i'm doing a quality build , what should my dex/str when i infuse it with a refined gem
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>>167107410
You're the only person who seems to be upset here, anon.
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I sure am glad I never had any interest in the pvp of these games.
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>>167107589
Just look at the damage difference at the infusion screen, you dumb weeb.
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>>167107527
Yeah, a mouthbreathing retard healing exactly point blank right in your face while you were already running for the backstab
Wouldn't work otherwise
>>167107520
I don't play DaS3 anymore and became happier for it
>>167107581
How does it encourage item usage when it so strictly limits your items? Are you for real? Five (5) Hunter Charms. Come on man.
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>>167107581
I'm really surprised people don't use lloyds as much as they should in DS3. They work almost 100% of the time on wakeups or against heals and if your weapon is good for roll catching, finishing the host is a really trivial matter.
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>>167098280
Being able to use Gwynevere's tits as a bouncy castle
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>>167107802
It encourages proper use of undead hunter charms, not mindless spam, you dumbfuck.
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>>167107581
>undead hunter charm

That thing was nerfed so badly that with a full stamina bar you can roll for half of its duration if you want. In fact, I just ringswap to blood ring whenever someone hits a backstab > charm combo into me and wait it out. They can't do anything to stop me when I decide to do that.
The items 3 encourages using more than the other games are knives and the new bundles.
Resins are worse off now except for the rouge. Bombs are better but they are just a test if they player knows phantom range doesn't allow you to dodge this without rolling thing. Repair powder is a joke when it had uses in 1 and 2. Bug pellets are also jokes. Grass is also a joke. Duel charms are good but you only ever run into things that are worth charming very, very rarely.
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>>167107765

o-oh
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>>167107710
>>167107901
>>167105970

Take a look at your filenames and ask yourself who the angry one is
You hate the playerbase. You hate the roll spammers and the endless summoners and the braindead estus mashers.

I just wonder if you're lying to yourself about enjoying this.
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>>167108151
You're simply further confirming that you are a horrible player, anon. I'm really sorry.
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>>167108317
>no argument

I'm just asking you to explain how these are good. Tell me how you catch my blood ring rolls when you charm me, or how those consumables have uses?
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>>167107742
same
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>>167108317
>Player wearing Xanthuous Crown, Thrall Hood or some other epic meme headgear
>They're shit
every time
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>>167108280
I hated playerbase since DS1. This doesn't have anything to do with DS3 specifically and spending a few hours invading is really fun.
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>>167108280
Maybe because it gives the same feeling as defeating a boss you've been struggeling against for hours. Feels damn good winning when the odds seem stacked against you. Maybe because I like challenge. Now go get some easy wins in your dead game.
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so what is the best boss theme out of all 5 games?
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>>167108519
>Bloodborne
>A game
Good one.
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>>167108445
i wear both of those hats and i am 110% shit
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>>167108519
Vordt.
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>>167108454
>likes challenges
>twinks

You're just a faggot who wants challenges tailored to your skill level and the moment it gets worse you go back to crutches.

t. SL 130 invader who actually fights dedicated gankers and not dumb PvE tards
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>>167108519
https://youtu.be/NN8dCyG-Pqo
This one is definitly god tier.
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>>167108451
>that backstab
>pvpfags WILL defend it
lmao
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>>167108597
there are people ITT who actually like Vordt's theme?
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>>167108868
y-yeah
it fits his fatness
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>>167108519

Twin Princes or Pontiff.
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>>167108519
>5 games
Acshually there are 6-7 Soulsborne games.

But best boss themes by game are :

Allant
O&S
Velstadt
Ludwig
Dragonslayer Armor
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>>167108406
Nobody uses bloodring outside of meta ranges and if you're invading in meta ranges you're just a retard, sorry.
There's 100% working methods of roll catching in DS3 and they work in any invasion situation you can get into.
Resins in DS3 are carbon copy of resins in DS1. They are actually more effective because there's dark and magic resins now. Bundles are even better than any non-spellcasting buff in DS1.
Pellets are 15% damage reduction which is pretty noticeable. Green blossoms were rightfully nerfed as they were ridiculously overpowered in DS1, still useful. Durability is a shit system that needs to go, i'm really glad Nioh devs understood this.
Your complains are cherrypicking and simple whining.
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>>167107268
technically manus and tin banisment catalysts are weapons. tcc too because of high base (but it's a reeeealy short spear). the problem is that they cast with r1 instead of r2 which means they are left with the inferior r2 for melee damage
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So I've just seen Ringed City is coming out in March and I really want to make a sorcerer or a cleric. First time I've played through DS3 I never even put points towards INT or faith, is it possible to play even decently with a caster in both PvE and PvP?
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>>167109074
>6-7

I'll take the bait. What are them?
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>>167108647
>Projecting
Never made a twink. In fact, I've been invading people with almost retarded stuff like a poison murakumo.
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>>167108519
Even a list of 10 tracks won't be enough for all god-tier DS boss themes.
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>>167102070

does this castle in the cemetery have any in-game significance, or is it meant to be mysterious?
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>>167109074
>Velstadt
Fuck no.
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>>167108868
when his second phase kicks in, it feels pretty good.

although he never lasts long after...
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>>167109074
Laurence theme > Ludwig theme but OK
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>>167109128
Sure, but you'll always want some kind of infused/buffed weapon as backup.
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>>167109150
Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Slashy Souls, Softs if you want to count it as a separate game since it uses different servers and is in general a different experience, Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3.
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>>167109320
It's Lothric. The rest of the game world is on the other side of it.
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will DLC2 make dark magic great again?
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>>167109191
Twinking is literally having pieces of weapons you shouldn't have yet for that area. You are twinking badly with a poison kumo, that's like twinking with only dung pies in 1, but are you invading Irithyll with it? Are you avoiding using prisioner's chain and upgraded rings?
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>tfw second phase starts
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>>167109128
What >>167109384 said.
You can do a full caster for Pve, but you'll rely too heavily on dmg/fp efficient spells.
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>>167109509
No, I'm invading snowy mountain pass at lvl 109.
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>>167109439
you forgot to list lords of the fallen, salt&sanctuary, and nioh
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Woop woop, waifu alert
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>>167109320
It's literally Lothric High Wall.
You can see Firelink from the High Wall too.

>yfw you remember the pre-release hype and people analyzing every part of the trailer and bullshots.
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>>167109089
I use bloodring outside meta ranges. If you hit me with a charm you'd never catch me before I could estus again.

Resins are weaker now damage wise because the way defense formulas work. DaS's and DaS 2's resins are only weaker if you're up against a low SL 99 hunanity twink.

Pellets are stealth nerfed in PvP. Grass is fairly useless, the difference is minimal. Durability should've been fully removed, not be and at the same time not exist in the game.
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>>167109728
Those are not souls games. Slashy Souls is an actual souls game as it was made by Bamco who own the rights to Dark Souls.
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>>167109519
what is the name of Sully's Stand?

>>167109751
pic is lies, no creamy thighs, just beef jerky
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i love it when an invader sips during a duel. it means i get to go full shitlord on him and spam LMB
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>>167109773
>entire lothric kingdom is built nearby the DS1 Kiln
No speculations went that far.
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>>167109903
untrue dark ring tho
im sure she has spares other than the one she sells to the player
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>>167109997
>entirety of Lothric Castle is build nearby kiln
no.

it is built literally directly on top of the kiln.
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>>167109751
Woop woop, waifu alert
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>>167109997
>built
Even if it was kiln, the lands shifted and converged together.
Lothric APPEARED into it's current position in remnants of former Lordran according to the lore.
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in shulva city there are those seven red-eye statues with the pillar/switch behind them which activates the walkway to the repair tree. how do you access the cave to the left of those seven red-eye statues? I can see an item there, but I can't figure out how to access it
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>>167109828
One literally who doesn't make the simple fact i've never encountered a bloodring user in low/mid level invasions any less legit.
DS3 resins are extremely overpowered on low levels and DS1/3 damage calculation formulas aren't really that much different.
Good thing that pellets aren't only useful for pvp.
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anyone have a good anti-twink build that they can share?
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>>167110256
>make twink
>add 10 SLs

There
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>>167109751
>>167110128
>manipulator
>liar
>hollow
>Kaathe's sloppy seconds
WORST

GIRL
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>>167110256
If i encounter an anti-twink i just hop on my higher SL invader and rape him.
Don't bother.
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>>167110316
what about gear? i want to look like a new player
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>>167109384
>>167109679
Yeah I'm probably going to use some infused weapons since I don't really like going 100% caster.
Are there any weapons that you may suggest me or that are particularly good for infusing or is it more up to moveset preferences?
Thanks again for the support :)
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>>167109751
>>167110128
>Yuria
>Best Waifu
no
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>>167109519
>the very first seconds of the music

I wet my pants everytime
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>>167110415
>:)
my support ends here
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>>167110220
BF?
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>during the LoH ending two Sisters of Londor and bunch of Hollow stay around you almost exactly as they do on this picture
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>>167110415
Choose a weapon with low physical stat requirements and a good moveset. Most weapons are fine, but I wouldn't infuse weapons with trash scaling, like the mailbreaker.
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>>167110553
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This first DLC is lazy as fuck. This snow mountain pass in particular is giving me utter cancer. Where is the next bonfire after this? I can't stand to run past 50 fucking followers, 30 wolves and a bunch of those stupid fucking giant vikings again to fight 75 giant flies next. All this shit is is weak enemy spam everywhere.
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>>167110148
According to Emma and the Fire Keeper the lands are converging on Lothric, not Lordran. And the Hidden Blessing description and Untended Graves confirms that Firelink Shrine is meant to be there in relation to Lothric, it didn't get sucked there.

I don't think DaS3 Firelink is the first game Firelink. We know Lothric's royal family was obsessed with linking the fire so I believe the sequence of events is more like
>Unknown Lothric king has a replica Firelink Shrine built
>Somehow gets his hands on the Lordvessel, uses it to connect his replica Firelink to the First Flame
>Creates a magic bell that has the ability to raise old Lords of Cinder, as well as having the abilities to raise Unkindled and actually warp geography should the resurrected Lords attempt to escape (as they do in game)

Of course what makes Dark Souls 3 really fucking confusing in regards to the whole land shifting thing is that the game *tells* you that's the case and half the shit in the game points to it, but then a whole bunch of other shit makes it seem as if the world is exactly as it should be. It honestly feels like a concept they came up with half way through development/when they were rushing towards release date and weren't able to implement properly.
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>>167110792
Snowy mountain pass is really nice in my opinion, I just wish it had a few less followers and/or no wolves.

Keep looking around the fly room. There's something there you need to do to advance, which will lead you to the "next" bonfire.
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>>167110792
Theres no next bonfire, just shortcuts. Find yourself a nice rotting bed to lie upon.

>people seriously complaining about too few bonfires
>in ds3
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>>167111072
>I don't think DaS3 Firelink is the first game Firelink
It's not. It's built in the land we see after traversing the white corridor in Kiln, which is a different part of the setting. But Kiln is there, it's a core of entire Lothric Kingdom.
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>>167110792
it's because of dumb ghrus ike you that from software decided to add 61 bonfires in the game
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>>167111290
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OK I have a Deprived start +2 for raw ASS, but what should I make the build? Just finished Vordt and a little bit of the Undead Settlement and am sitting at 10K souls

post ending in 5 decides what my build is
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>>167110497
:(
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>>167111538
Str/Lck
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>>167111072
>but then a whole bunch of other shit makes it seem as if the world is exactly as it should be
Nah. Try to walk through the main lower entrance of CotD or look at the road leading out of Irithyll. They are both completely blocked in a really unnatural way, like if locations were lifted and transported somewhere else. It just seems like there was some time since the lands converged.
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>>167111072
>lands are converging on Lothric, not Lordran
What if it was only called Lothric after the lands had converged and the name is a mix of Lordran, Drangleic and Thorolund?

The Bell of Awakening kinda already existed in Dark Souls 1, although it's purpose wasn't as clear then.
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>>167111538
20/40 miracle build using dark miracles as well.
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>>167111538
Vit/Luck
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>>167111538

Quality Build with Carthus Curved Sword.
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>>167110256
Just make an sl 26 with raw ass and 27 vig with prisoners chain, SL6 characters can invade you. Have someone drop you the chain so you can keep dancer alive. Flame arc is probably the best way to use your attunement alot, adds as much as resin for a longer duration, and with an offhanded simple you can use it indefinitely, unlike bundles. Blessed weapon adds like no hp and regen isnt worth it since your flasks are huge. Throw leftover points on endurance.
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>>167111538
Luck/faith build for regen and anri sword
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>>167111538
99 luck no bleed weapons no anri longsword no raw ass
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>>167111765
Time for him to make a poison build
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>>167111765
harsh
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>>167111765
Goddamn
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>>167111765
kek looks like she's gonna be a baconator :^)
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>>167111538
>>167111765
hope you will have fun anon
somehow
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>>167086151
Does DS3 even have matchmaking? I'm getting constantly invaded by people with soul of cinder set and upgraded weapons with my lvl 20 character in the fucking starting village
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>>167110354
>>167110452
Go home Sirrus, no one likes you
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>>167111662
I always thought that the purpose of the bells in DS1 were to awaken the next CU, so like while you are fucking around in Anor Londo and beyond the next guy is waking up and trying to escape the asylum.
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>>167111924
You talk as if this wasn't the case before
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>>167111765
>>167111916
What's the critical path to Hollow infusion?
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>>167111997
Maybe I played the other games late but I wasn't getting invaded by full havel's in undead burg when i started or in forest of the giants
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>>167111765
Nice
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What is it about the first Dark Souls that its sequels didn't capture? I'm playing DS3 right now, myself, but I just loaded my DS1 character in order to get the name of an armor set that I was recommending to a friend, and I immediately wished I was still playing DS1 instead of DS3. It's not nostalgia. I literally just finished DS1 for the first time a month or so ago. And I'm loving DS3 in basically every way. So what is it about DS1 that I'm missing?
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>>167111978
bells back in ds1 only had a symbolic value, they were a test for the undead
only ds3 has a shitton of stuff focused on them, starting with unkindled bell and ending up with man-serpent mages using some sort of a bell to call forth people from different eras
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>>167112001
You need to complete more than half of the game without any meaningful scaling stats. Have fun.
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>>167109903
「Dark Side of the Moon」
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>>167112001
use poison infusion faget
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>invalid data means you're soft banned

Doesn't even seem too bad then. Most people aren't cheating and shit.
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>>167112001
Poison infused rotten ghru spear, you know you want it
Or at least rotten resin on it
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>>167110354
>>167110452
Sirrus is definitely worse, and Yuria is at least fuckable with the ring on
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>>167111290
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>>167111307
I'm fairly certain that the Kiln of the First Flame is beneath Lordran, but is sort of in its own sub-dimension. Like, it is physically geographically in a cave beneath the Lordran mountain, but the power of it has turned that cave into some weird infinite realm. I don't think the white corridor in the first game was actually sending you somewhere else in the world.

>>167111639
I was going to type out a whole thing at you but actually I think I just figured out how the lands/the dynamics of the lands converging. Give me a bit and I'll make an autistic diagram.

>>167111662
Because Lothric is, by the time of Dark Souls 3, an ancient kingdom and nothing ever indicates it was called anything else. I honestly think that taking the 'th' in the middle to mean that it includes Thorolund as well is overthinking it way too much, but I've always thought that 'Lothric' was meant to be a bit of a combination of 'LOdran' and 'DrangleIC' - which to me implied that it was in the same location as those two kingdoms which is why the land merging stuff always confused me.

>although it's purpose wasn't as clear then.
It was, it was just really literal: it woke up Frampt. Though of course, as of DaS3 Gwyn's presence at the end of the game might have also been due to it.
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>>167112197
Exploring instead of walking down a straight line
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Is Dork magic viable or at least decent in III?
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>>167112001
you can use Man-grub Staff.
problem is how are you gonna get it..
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>>167112650
great deep soul is ok for spamming

there isn't anything else worth using unless you're some smarmy fuck who considers dark pyromancies dark magic
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>>167112667
not sure what you mean?

This game is not that hard, I can invade a bunch of low levels for the pale tongues
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>>167111738
thx
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>>167112667
>Want to make a Cathedral of the Deep invasion character
>Want to use Man-grub Staff
>Stupid fucking faith requirement and luck scaling means my other stats would be seriously lacking
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>>167112603
Everyone says that but I'm still having to explore in DS3. I don't know if the areas are all interconnected like in DS1. If not, then that's a bummer. I decided to skip DS2 for now because I just plain didn't enjoy the feel of the controls. Feels like you're playing DS1 underwater. One thing I will definitely say is that the fact that you can fast travel from the start in 2 and 3 kind of takes away from the immersion. By the time I got the Lordvessel in DS1, I was ready and relieved to have the ability, but being unable to teleport for most of the game just really bolstered the "reality" of the world. People argue about this same thing all the time with Morrowind vs. Skyrim and I really think it's better without.
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Who wants to have a battle in demons? I'm one invasion away from pure white. SL 400.
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>>167112776
I mistook it for the Archdeacon's Great Staff, despite the names being pretty clear.
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>>167106951
Says you. Emerald Herald actually follows you around Drangleic and gives you various pieces of world-expanding dialogue, on top of actually giving you a useful item.
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>>167106951
Doll has the deepest lore
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>>167112847
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141408

Levels ending in 6 are the first levels to gain range. 6 is the first to invade down one (and 5 is conveniently the lowest non-deprived starting class), 16 is the first to invade down 2, 26 is the first to invade down 3. Hence why they're good levels to end on as an invader (5, 15, 25 etc each reach as far down as 6, 16, and 26, respectively). 26 is convenient since it's also the highest level an sl 6 can invade, so it doubles as an antitwink level.

+2 can invade people with +0 weapons, so most twinks are going to at least have +2 weapons, meaning you can use +4. It makes very little difference on the pyro flame though; flame arc goes from adding 93 damage to adding 95 damage when you go from +2 to +4. Blessed weapon only adds like 20 physical either way, and even great magic weapon is literally just worse than resin, so I assure you flame arc is still the best buff to use. The sword gains some AR of course.

Use whatever armor you want. Lightroll isn't really that worth it.

Sun princess ring etc is good since you get +2 hp/s, unlike blessed offhands or anri's SS which heal slower until they're +10. If you use the priestess ring you can cast replenishment on top of it, which would be good if you were dueling since 7 hp/s is a lot when you've only got around 1k hp, but estus flasks still usually top you off either way since each one recovers over half your health
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>>167113192
She has virtually no role in story past being a level up slut and her comments are as bland as she is. Worst level up girl for sure.
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>enemies get cool, varied movesets with smooth animations
>players get watered down shit
Priorities, From.
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>>167106951
This only seems to be an issue with the Firekeeper in 3, isn't it? And even then her story can be opened up some by giving her the soul and eyes or something I think.

I've abandoned her for Irina though, I wonder if she is jealous or even notices.
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>>167113021
>play demon's souls pvp
>everyine is a level 400 nigger using second chance with infinite grass and spice
can't make this shit up
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>>167104271
I haven't found this to be true. What level are you invading at? I haven't gone to NG+ yet, and I'm only level 80 on my highest. The characters I invade with most are now level ~50. I get more fun invasions than anything else. The worst I get is ungracious winners and dried finger summon panickers. Actually, I think the worst is when I try to farron watchdogs and half my invasions are fucking fight clubs. Why would you fight club there?
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>>167111370
>>167111267
I'm not complaining about 'no bonfires' you dipshit. I'm complaining about a shitty area that spams FUCKLOADS of weak enemies on you from every which way because the enemies aren't challenging at all on their own. Its a shitty area and I wanted to be done with it quickly. I like the rest of the DLC. Just killed Friede on my first try. I can't tell if she's insanely easy or if I can just read her and dodge her well because she can't touch me.
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>>167113625
neat, thx again
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This popped up in my recommendations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxO661SdvUY
I only played DaS1, what is that bullshit where he twirls his weapon around and does like 3 or 4 hits while only draining stamina once? Cause it looks fun
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>>167113653
Players always get shitty moves, like Dragonslayer Armor who use nice varied moveset with his axe, even some special stances move, and we get vertical chops and a lightning vertical chop
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>>167114167
it's a twinblade, the darth maul spin is just a built in move

hurts but also easy to parry
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>>167114313
I see, I thought it was some kind of super move you could activate or something
So is that the best weapon for PvE then? Because holy shit, no real hitstring hits that fast and drains so little stamina
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>>167112448
but Yuria is a cuckqueen so that automatically means she's shit
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>>167114445
>So is that the best weapon for PvE then?
anything that can spam knockdown on mobs
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>>167101353
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>>167113231
is the Doll a Great One?
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>>167114572
>those pants
lmao
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>>167114572
this guy's pants and shoulders make him look like a gym jock

>>167114471
>cuckqueen
does this mean she's cucking or that she's cucked?
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>>167114664
>does this mean she's cucking or that she's cucked?
Yuria gets off on being cucked by Anri with the Lord of Hollows, which makes her a shit
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>>167114541
Isn't that every weapon? I'm just going by what breaks through poise in a reasonabe amount of time in DaS1 and that's pretty much everything but spears
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>>167114664
It's the female version of a cuck, gets off on her man fucking other women.
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>thought i was hot shit for beating demons souls with relative ease on all playthroughs
>this time actually decide to properly try out NG+
>fucking EVERYTHING stomps me
holy FUCK, is this a step above the other games NG+.
is THIS where the true demon's souls begins?
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>>167114572
Change those pants. Looks good otherwise but those pants don't fit and just throw it all out of wack.
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>>167114818
I mean actual knockdown, not stun. Like, you knock them flat on their back like a pancake, recover your stamina as they get up, repeat. A good deal more straightforward than breaking their poise.
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>>167114861
Yes, DeS on pure black world tendency NG+ is probably the toughest pve experience I've had with these games so far.

Although you can still cheese the fuck out of everything in DeS thanks to how janky the game is.
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>>167114805
>>167114843
>not wanting to tie her up and jam it in after coating it in anri's juices
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Can anyone explain covenants to me in DS3? I have Way of Blue, Mound Makers, and Warrior of Sunlight, but how do these things actually work?

I beat DS1 and Bloodborne but did very little multiplayer in either. I didn't really understand covenants in those games either, for that reason.
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>>167114945
Does DaS2 have a lot of instances of you fighting multiple enemies so it's useful to knock them down?
Sounds like it might be fun for a tanking ultra great weapon build
I'm probably gonna go pick it up on the next sale
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>>167115067
You equip the covenant item, then either engage in online functions or wait for it to happen automatically in some cases.
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>>167114959
Will they ever release DeS for PC or PS4? I never had a PS3. Is this how mustards feel about how they'll never get to play Bloodborne?
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>>167115054
>being unfaithful to your wife Anri
no
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>>167115162
Simple enough, I guess. So what are my objectives, as a member of one of those three? I get the idea Way of Blue is for newfags to protect each other, more or less? I'm not really sure I'm asking the right question but I guess how do I know which to pick? Are they all more or less the same, or are some of them more fun?
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post yfw the final boss of dlc2 actually unironically turns out to be The Dark Soul of Man
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>>167115174
I'd be shocked if it never did eventually make it to the PS4.

When it comes to BB I'm in the same position as I was with DeS and the PS3, waiting for the PS4 to have at least 5 exclusives I really want to play before I ever consider buying one.
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>>167115208
>being unfaithful to your wife Aldrich
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>>167115174
They can't do that to themselves
If they re-release it then everybody will realize how fun it could be compared to the other souls games if they don't remove what made it fun
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>>167115296
Unless you're specifically using the functions of a particular covenant, always have way of the blue equipped to make things more interesting if you happen to get invaded and that stuff actually ends up working properly.
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is spooch mooch the wizard slut cute?
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>>167115464
What made DeS better than the rest of them for you?
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>>167113632
>worst level up girl
>when DS3's Firekeeper exist
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Since frostbite was the major status effect of dlc1, what would be the status effect of dlc2 ?
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why do people keep saying that Kaathe is dead?
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>>167115296
Way of Blue will summon a Blue Sentinel or Darkmoon to help you if you get invaded while it's equipped.
Warriors of Sunlight turns your summon sign and phantom golden. Mechanically you're exactly the same as a regular white phantom, but when you defeat a boss as a gold phantom, you'll get a sunlight medal, which you can turn in for covenant rewards.
Mound Makers turns your white summon sign purple, and as a mad phantom you can attack and be attacked by the host and other phantoms. Alternatively, it lets you use your regular red eye to invade as a mad dark phantom, which is basically easy mode regular invasion as you can either kill the host *or* his phantoms.

As for the covenants you don't have (so only read on if you want to be spoiled):
Blue Sentinels and Blade of the Darkmoon are literally exactly the same and will summon you into someone else's world to chase off invaders.
Watchdogs of Farron and Aldrich Faithful are area defence covenants which automatically summon you into the world of people trespassing on your covenant's turf: Road of Sacrifices/Farron Keep and Irithyll, respectively.
Rosaria's Fingers is literally nothing. It makes no difference to any invasions or summons.
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>>167114884
>>167114663
>>167114664
No other pants work with that body and helm, just tried them all.
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>>167115845
What's the problem with the silver knight leggings?
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Are the KB+M controls in DS2 okay? For reference, I am such a KB+M fanatic that I prefer playing DS1 that way, with DSMFix of course
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>>167115768
Curse
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>>167115929
They work perfectly fine, it just might take some tweaking and getting used to.
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>>167115768

A new status, blind
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>>167115768
Lust
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What should I work on leveling from here, dudes? I want to use miracles in addition to my weapons, even though I haven't put much into any magic stats yet.
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>>167111639
>>167112579
Okay so I think this is how the lands converged. Obviously the position of everything is completely fucking wrong, but I was trying to show which lands were already connected before the lands mix together.

Of course the fucking problem with this is that the Old Wolf of Farron lives inside/the architecture of Farron Keep includes the giant bridge leading towards Lothric which implies it's been there a fucking long time.
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>>167115920
too bulky compared to upper body.
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>>167116005
well Deep stuff does have a tendency to inflict curse on people
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>>167116284
Lothric Knight leggings?
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>>167115768
Frostbite was added in the DLC? Pretty sure Vordt affected me with frostbite...?
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>>167116265
Undead Settlement is pretty much the center of the collision of the lands since it's the only area with giant gaps in it.
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>>167116265
well the wolf could have moved there after the lands converged
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>>167115790
people will tell you that Kaathe is dead because Yuria's japanese VA says he is, but I think that this is bullshit because everyone knows that Souls don't have japanese VA (only English with subs, it's always been that way) so that line was always in English and people who say that it was somehow mistranslated are talking out of there ass
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>decide to playthrough DS again
>get to Taurus Demon
>remember that Taurus is a pushover and the fight is actually trying to move in his godawful arena
>remember I'm going to need to fight Capra which is another "fight our shitty camera!" boss

Aaaaaand will to play gone.
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>>167116630
Try fighting Taurus where you kill the 2 crossbow men.
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>>167116423
way to plain and one dimensional for the chest piece.
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I'm in trouble--please reccomend this message!
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is magic viable in ds2 pve? and by viable I mean nuking bosses like in 1
if it's not as powerful, I might as well not bother
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>>167116237
Anyone?
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>tfw we will never fight Ornstein for real
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>>167098280
I only want the Silver Knight Straight Sword and spear.
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>>167116890
Good, he's a shitty fight and a shitty character in general.
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Posting best fashion
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>>167116876
Don't know about base game, but you might have a hard time with the DLCs since the bosses have a lot of spell resistances.
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>>167116890
we'll meet him as a non-hostile hollow NPC
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>>167116284
Pontiff Knight leggings.
Alternatively, just have rosario make your legs thinner.
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>>167116802
imo silver knight leggings work perfectly fine
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>>167116995
More like Alva the GAYfarer
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>>167116924
>add the armor
>add the shield
>but not the weapons even though the Silver Knights use them
>meanwhile add all the Black Knight shit

Seriously don't understand
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>>167116237
You have the basic STR and DEX for most of the simpler weapons. Vigor and Vitality are kind of "to taste", so I'd recommend FAI to 15 ATT to 18 at the moment.
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what is the most lethal cosplay build?
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>>167117001
why though? I mean, the only possible solution a mage has if he can't cast spells against enemies is picking up a weapon that scales with INT and that does magic damage as well usually
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>>167117043
The roster of spears and straightswords both were already too bloated and fromsoft didn't afford any designspace for unique SS or spears with special movesets beyond what options they already provided.
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What's up with DS3 and hats? there are a lot of hats like this.
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>>167116483
Yeah settlement seems to have taken the brunt of the geographical shifts, but there's also a big chasm by the Cathedral of the Deep, and the main road to Irithyll has collapsed (fuck, I should have put a road between the Cathedral and Irithyll on that picture).

>>167116493
That certainly is true. I suppose the exiles could have set up the ladder and then carried the wolf up there.


>>167116601
I think it's Yuria's Japanese *subtitles* that say what Vaati and some others have translated as 'dying wish.' I still don't really believe it though: I don't know how good Miyazaki's English is, but either he or someone on the team has a good enough grasp on it to give all these VAs fancy ye olde language and to use a bunch of obscure words, so I think the writer's intentions are always translated fairly well (for dialogue, at least, item descriptions tend to be a bit more hit or miss). I think if Miyazaki wanted the line to deliver the fact that Kaathe is dead, the line in English would reflect that.

And besides, it's Japanese, even though it *directly* translates to 'dying wish' the more accurate translation might be some bullshit like 'an honorabuu wish for which you would die to see compreted' or some fucking meme.
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>>167116932
no u

>>167117008
Meh, I really wanted to fight him. It would make sense, though, the only knight we really fought would be the one who fell for the abyss meme.
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>>167116995
hmmm
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>>167117263
>I suppose the exiles could have set up the ladder and then carried the wolf up there.
or it could have just jumped
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>>167117134
I think they just forgot about them. FROM has added more spears and SS since the game first came out so they would've definitely had enough space for 2 extra unique weapons.
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>>167117313
I don't understand how they managed to fuck up so badly on something as basic as eye holes in the helmets.
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>>167117235
Miyazaki's was still thingken about Bloodborne the whole time while making DaS3.
>Black Hands literally dressed like something out of Bloodborne and called Hunters
>Literally no mention of what they hunted
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What's your guys' favorite build type?
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>>167117128
Because the bosses are also resistance to magic/dark/fire/lightning damage. That's what I meant essentially. The general enemies are pretty resistant too in the DLCs now that I think about it.
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>>167117367
>FROM has added more spears and SS since the game first came out
The only new SS we got was Valorheart, which was obviously a DLC keystone weapon. The only new spear we got was the Follower's Javelin, which was obviously added just to be a carrier for the spear-throw WA, another DLC gimmick.
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>>167117437
SL 802 not-a-build
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>>167117419
>>Literally no mention of what they hunted
the King's enemies, they were the CIA of Lothric
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>>167117012
Pontiff Knight leggings are what I originally HAD here >>167114572

Fuck this general.
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>>167117365
Look at that sad cunt, he doesn't have the energy to jump anywhere.
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>>167117479
yeah that still means anyone but pure physical builds gets punished hard, no?
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>>167117114
black knight with the sword is pretty nice

vilheim, farron followers, and millwood knights are probably pretty good

creighton if you're a twink
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Why does every invaders i'm against have less than 1100hp ? Are those the same people that complains about gank squads ?
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>>167117510
>Fuck this general.
I don't think so, bud. You got to start at Corporal and fuck your way up. No free rides here.
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>>167117510
Fashion is a dumb meme and none of your nasty combinations look better than a proper full set, just as Miyazaki intended.
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>>167117114
Anri Luck build + Carthus Rouge
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How the fuck do you deal with that red-eyed Millwood knight in the tower?
That fucker is giving me more trouble than any boss in a long fucking time.
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Killing all the original Lords in the first game was a mistake.
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>>167117504
Isn't that just the Black Hands? Still though, the decision to call them Hunters instead of just 'assassins' or something reeks of Bloodborne.
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>>167087089
>Or maybe it's just my fetish for masks
Have you seen Eyes Wide Shut?
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>>167117565
I think they lose their embered state when they invade so they're cut down 400 or so health.
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>>167116995
Seems familiar
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>>167117630
He's one of the archers. When you enter the tower, he;s facing out a window, away from you. Lure the guard out of the tower and sneak up on the red one with the slumbering dragoncrest. You can backstab him off the tower to one-shot him.
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>>167117673
but I thought that the Black Hands = the Hunters, or at least they were in charge of them
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>>167117630
Abuse the vertical space, knock him the fuck out of there, totally trivialize him with rapport.
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>>167113632
>her comments are as bland as she is
She subtly tells you her loyalty only goes as far as your determination and right when you meet Vendrick she warns you that fate will happen to you too.

That's more than Firekeeper's 'plz link fire' 'i cant die' 'muh eyes'
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>>167117630
Spook + Hide, backback him and watch him fall through the wall crack. He won't die but also won't cause trouble anymore.
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>>167117565
Invaders can't be embered, they don't get the 30% hp bonus you do. Even at 33 vig they only have 1109 hp without rings, and with rings you're still going to have no more than 1400 health while the host can have around 1800.
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post invasion red flags

i'll start
>Host's name is his real name
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>>167117771
>backback

Backstab
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>>167117090
Thanks m8. What will 18 ATT give me, and why this specific number?
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>>167117719
>>167117732

I tried to get him to fall when I attacked him initailly but he just didn't for some reason.
Gonna try rapport, thanks.
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>>167117510
I'd advise Sirris' leggings, or wearing the Silver Knight leggings but slimming your legs down some. They're like inverse Artorias legs and give your character really fucking thicc thighs for some reason (I've been suffering from the same problem on one of my characters).

>>167117727
Something specifies that only Hunters who serve successive kings are given the title of Black Hand: I think it's their set. Although, the Hunter's Ring does say
>The hunters serve Lothric on the fringes and in the shadows.
>For generations, rulers of Lothric have relied especially upon the Black Hand hunters to punish enemies in ways that the king's Three Pillars cannot.
So I guess that all Hunters are shit like assassins and spies, whereas the Black Hands are just the best of htem.
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>>167117865
it gives you the 3rd slot, and it's the last slot that only costs 4 points of investment
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>>167117845
>red flag
?
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>>167117845
>hosts name is his real name
>he's got his 3 SL 800 friends carrying his turtling ass throughout the entire level
>seed popped
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>>167117845
>opponent slow walks at you
>he also is a katanawaifu
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>>167117845
>ragged mask or waifu char
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>>167117921
tried sirris leggings already. They make legs look too girly. I'm just sticking with pontiff. I'm positive now after these responses that barely anyone here knows what looks good.
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>>167117938
Right on. So, I only just killed the Cursed Greatwood (don't think I got that name quite right) so I may just need to be patient, but are there any merchants selling miracles that I can get to now? I have that really weak heal, but that's it.
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>>167117865
This:
>>167117938

Also more FP to power spells.

Three is a good number for slots without investing too much, then you can easily get a ring for 1-2 more if you need.
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>>167117404
Ported straight into ds3.

Literally no effort in remaking this and the whole staff is tired of Dark Souls. The best thing they did was recycle old concepts and slap a new name, add a few new things and port the old characters, items and animations from the other games.
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>>167117845
>Darksign in the sky
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>>167117845
Red flags when you are invaded

>invader has a meme name or "4chan" name.

They are usually pretty dangerous because they are so scummy. Fucking plow memers with CCS backup.
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>>167118047
There is literally nothing wrong with using ragged maks.
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>>167117845
>Summoning Phantom before you even see the Invaded World Of message
>FPS is noticably lower (sign that multiple phantoms are summoned on consoles)
>phantom in full havels with dragonslayer greataxe
>seed
>all enemies in the level are dead
>washing pole / dark sword / buckler / fallen knight
>any female character, literally any
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>>167118075
Clear a bit more of the undead village and you'll find the Miracle vendor.

Also with a 10 INT you can learn some handy Pyromancies as well.
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Why is there a bunch of dildos sticking out of that hill over there?
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>>167115710
Not necessarily better but they had more fun equipment and spells to fuck around with
>Blind blade
>Scraping Spear
>phosphorescent pole
>rune sword
>blueblood
>Needle of ETERNAL agony
Spells like
>cursed weapon
>second chance
>resurrection
RINGS LIKE
>Foe's/Friend's ring
>Master's ring
That's all I got
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>>167118075
You can find some ashes that let you buy a key to rescue one. It's the less expensive key. You can buy replenishment off of her, which is pretty good.
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>>167117994

>host uses his real name for his character
>he's wearing the full fallen knight set
incoming roll spam while waiting for phantoms to get summoned
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>>167118197
>there
>is
>literally
>nothing
>wrong
>with
>using
>ragged
>masks
haha oh wow
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>>167118075
Oh is INT important for pyro in this one? I used it some in DS1 but it didn't need any attribute there. Good to know. Thanks nigga, I appreciate it.
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>>167086151
I cant have fun with any weapon that isnt a broadsword
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>>167118197
>I want to show my slutty ugly char but i still want the flat defense
Everything is wrong with the ragged mask
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>>167118124
>Literally no effort in remaking this

>Lots of great levels and bosses
>Neat details here and there like lothric castle soldiers having newer armor.
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>>167118281
in DaS2 and DaS3 the strength of your pyro glove scales C/C with INT/FAI, you need both magic stats in a "quality" build to make it work
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>>167118206
>any female character
Literally this
Fuckin waifufags
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>tfw the games got progressively worse the more FromSoft tried to balance everything for PvP
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>>167118207
>>167118237
Oh shit, I have that key. I must be either an idiot or a retard, because I totally missed that there were spells for sale there.
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>>167118281
A 10 INT will let you throw the first two fireball things and the fire weapon buff when you get it later on.

You can even get the magic weapon buff if you want from Yoel.
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>>167118210
because there's a lonely lady inside

>>167118281
pyroflame has C/C scaling in int/faith

I don't know how lopsided you can afford to be before you start getting less spellbuff per point, but some pyromancies like toxic mist (which can actually be good for PvE even though the spore staff weaponart is better) don't even scale anyway.
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>>167116284
Shouldve squatted more.
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>>167117845
>"Summoning another phantom..."
>Seed icon already on screen
>Host is named after a meme
>Fallen Knight set
>Any sort of katana
>All enemies in the level are dead

Also here's a sort of inverse red flag
>Invade/get invaded
>Host has an NPC styled name ("[Name] of [Location]" or "[Occupation] [Name]"
>Immediately get excited and expect a fun fight
>Crushing disappointment when they're just another scrub or metafag

>>167118004
>>opponent slow walks at you
On the contrary I find these people to be more bearable because they're often (but not always) willing to do dumb, flashy and dramatic shit instead of just R1 spamming.
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>>167118369
So if I'm using miracles/faith anyway, and my starting INT was 9, might as well spend one level to unlock the shit then? I can dig it.
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>>167118210
Quelaag carefully burns and shapes trees into dildos for her giant demon spider puss

She's a lonely girl
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>>167118382
But 3 very obviously had 0 effort put into PVP balance.

If you rated amount of development work dedicated to pvp balance from least to most it would go:

DeS -> BB -> DaS3 -> DaS1 -> DaS2
3 would be tied with BB were it not for the DLC patch and arena.
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>>167118382
They only really cared(after a while) for dark souls 2. Even then it's not my favourite pvp.
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>>167118392
No, the key lets you open a door to save someone who gives you spells. If you see a guy with a big hammer sitting out front some huge doors, he'll tell you all about it, but you've probably passed by the door you're supposed to unlock already.
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>>167118504
how would /dsg/ have felt about keeping Quelaag as the chaos pyro teacher and deleting Eiyngei from the game
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>>167118381
>win the braindead r1 mash fest because your gem grinding autism was superior

ah yes bloodborne "pvp"
so glad this game became the basis for dark souls 3 and ruined it
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>>167117845
>legion etiquette
>with katana or the anime "spinny around on the ground" like a faggot sword
>>
What do you guys think makes for the most fun PvE build in DaS 1, 2, and 3, respectively?
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>>167118620
>implying that's me
>implying I'd ever go full Korean
Waifufag mad
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>>167118661
>DaS1
STR with big clubs
>DaS2
STR with TWO big clubs
>DaS3
STR with big club
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>>167118552
I saved her. Is she back at Firelink? Because I kinda forgot about her.
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>>167118504
>>167118419
Anything i should know before i go in? I was so worried about blighttown reading the storys on here but it wasnt that bad, just the fact that i could kick nearly every enemy off a ledge to their doom was incredibly satisfying just like stabbing the big guys in the rectum.
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>>167118661
>DaS1 pve
quality + pyro

>DaS2
powerstanced ultragreatswords

>DaS3
pure pyro
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>>167117313
>>167117713

Stop copying me faggots
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>>167118636
>farron greatsword user
>only uses his spin move
>switches to katana running r1's when it doesn't work
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>>167101353
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>>167118661
quality builds are the most fun, interesting, and creative.
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>>167118892
>caestus
>those pants
The other three did it better
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>>167118854
Yeah
Use the dragon crest shield
And a better weapon

>>167118927
Because there's such a great variety of viable farron greatsword moves right
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>>167118661
The build I've unironically enjoyed the most is UGS+GS.

Theres something about being a tanky motherfucker and creaming people with an UGS that never gets old.
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>>167118892
nice lady pants
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>>167118661
>1
Daggers-only. No poise allowed.

>2
Pure pyro. No weapons whatsoever

>3
Dark hand -> Dancer -> Greatlance.
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>>167118994
found him
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>>167118972

Hey I'm sitting at exactly 69.9% don't judge me
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>>167118963
How is "generic build that fits any weapon pretty well but isn't optimized for it" creative?
>>167118854
Yeah blighttown really isn't bad without the FPS drops
The entire game isn't as terrible and hardcore as people would have you believe, you can beat everything by simply not rushing forward like a retard
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>>167102070
I like this.
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>>167118994
>Because there's such a great variety of viable farron greatsword moves right
The 1HR2 is actually really damn good, and the R1s aren't any worse than any other UGS.
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>>167116265

I think the convergence of the lands might not be voodoo magic, but continental drift
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>>167119105
Lemme just hit you with this slow ass 500 AR UGS 1hr1
Or this slow ass UGS r2 that has no range and will do at most 300 damage
Or get parried for attempting to use the roll attack ever

Or I could just actually hit you with the L1 and win the match
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>>167118892
>>167117313
>>167117713
Alva's chest goes great with loads of stuff.
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>>167118821
yeah, she's down on the lower level tucked away in a dead end
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>>167118854
Such as?
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>>167119123
it's not creative but having a build based around "i can pick up any new weapon i find and do pretty alright with it" is definitely more fun, especially on a first playthrough
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>>167119268
same with helm, it never get a neck seam
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>>167117114
pale shade if you put the manikin claw in your offhand, you get a straightsword and a parry

the catch is that if you're going all the way you need to have enough int for pursuers in spite of the fact that pale shades literally only use pursuers and don't have any int scaling weapons
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>>167119202
>the R1s aren't any worse than any other UGS.
well they are pretty short, and the 2hr1s are actually just the 1hr1s, so unlike other UGSes you can be parried even when 2-handing
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>>167119264
well if you're just trying to be a faggot i'd recommend using this weapon
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>>167117673

like 33% of the game is bloodborne. the game is basically cut content and ideas that never made it into BB

either that or from always wanted to explore abyssal warping in the same way they did with chaos and to a lesser extent light demons, and bloodborne felt right to them.
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>>167118935
>scrawny twink with millwood chest
Not feelin' it.
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>>167119465
>well they are pretty short
Farron ties Astora for 2nd longest GS.
Only the FUGS is longer.
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>>167119326
I assume you quoted >>167118994

Anything really
Astora straight sword is ASS
Divine longsword would be better
Regular longsword would be better
Even shortsword would be better
ASS is just something you pick up at the start as a cleric to rush catacombs
It does terrible damage after the first few areas
It has bad scaling and bad bases and gets worse the further you go
It's a challenge run weapon really

Any weapon you've picked up by now would be better
Claymore, halberd, zweihander, great club, etc
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>>167119483
Ignoring everything else about it, I really like the CCS as far as a curved sword goes, it looks cool.
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>>167118210

what fucking settings are you playing on, how can you not run a 6 year old game.
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So if I want to make a STR build that rolls through all enemy attacks and then counterattacks with giant weapons, I need to pump ADP in DS2? That's kinda bullshit
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>>167119569
really? it felt short to me compared to the DS2 UGSes
i didn't play with it for too long though
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>tfw no gravelord sword
>tfw no gravelord miracles
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>>167119521
>implying millwood chest is for fatties
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>>167119675
>it felt short to me compared to the DS2 UGSes
That's probably because most non-UGS weapons in 2 are shorter. The range advantage is emphasized in that game, as it's one of the defining strengths of the weapon class.

In 3, there's curved swords with comparable range to pikes because Miyazaki gives about half a fuck.
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does using the Darksign count as a death for the purposes of using Yoel's levels?
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I'm sorry if this seems like a retarded question but does magic/pyro/miracles deal less damage if I equip it's catalyst in the left hand like regular weapons?
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>>167086247
Sure.

>>167086331
>t. miyazaki """""A""""" team retard
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>>167118225
Blueblood and pole are nothing special.

Better picks would be baby's nail or makoto.
Cursed weapon and second chance are also just strong buffs, banish and succ where the neat effects.
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>>167119753
no, just suicide in firelink
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>>167119807
I know it doesn't in DS2, couldn't tell you about other games
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Anybody got a spare pickaxe and leo ring on PS4?

I have no tools but the coal miner must mine.
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>>167119569
But it doesn't have vetical bigger movesets.
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>>167117630
You can get him to fall off with enough footwork, and pick him off from a distance. Good fucking luck if you don't want to cheese him though.
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>>167119930
just tested it on an enemie. Regular fireball did the same damage on both hands so I'm guessing it's the same damage
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>>167118315
>latria 2.0
>flat blighttown
>artorias fanboys dressed in BB attire
>onion sunbro
>gwyndolin but with goo
>darklurker pope
>nerfed anor londo archers
>winter dlc but outdoors
>REALISTIC doggos in 'a totally new concept we never tried before'
>Seath but now promoted from duke to king
>notPriscilla who isn't even half as cute
>remember Yuria?
>etc.
I mentioned they add a few more things just to make it look less blatant so it wouldn't be noticed as quickly until the sales reached so high that ratings don't even matter. Here's FROM hoping more new people buy it because of the hardcore gamer meme.
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Is the Saint's Ring in DS3 as boss as it looks?
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>>167120175

Does granting 1 more attunement slot seem boss to you?
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>>167120175
No. It gives slots, but not FP. Also, the Darkmoon ring is twice as good for 0.2 more weight.
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>>167120243
>>167120295
Yeah I guess it isn't that cool. I had a brain fart as forgot we were using FP now. I was thinking DS1 terms of extra castings and shit.
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>>167120172
>artorias fanboys dressed in BB attire

So?

>Seath but now promoted from duke to king

He doesn't even fight like Seath though.

>gwyndolin but with goo

Doesn't even fight like gwyndolin.


>darklurker pope

Doesn't even fight or look like darklurker.
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>>167101353
Default Knight chest is underrated
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>>167117845
>start match
>mocking or edgelord gesture

>invade
>host behind two-three phantoms
>friendly wave
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>>167120353
backstab.exe
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>>167120416
The default knight set in general is the best looking proper armor in the game.
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>>167119863
Banish was good, I knew I forgot a miracle.
Baby nail I didn't include because we got plenty poison daggers. But I guess no real toxic or plague ones
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>>167117845
>*runs towards the nearest mob when you hit him once*

99% of invaders are worse than League of Legends players
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>>167119734
For some reason the selection of miracles in Dark Souls 3 feels really disappointing to me, but I'm not sure why. I don't think there's less miracles than pyromancies or sorceries, but for some reason the selection doesn't feel great to me.

In an ideal world we'd have
>More Deep miracles
>More Angelic miracles
>More covenant specific miracles, including Gravelord stuff and Darkmoon miracles other than DMB
>Miracles for a wider range of Gods, to give us more flavour than the majority of healing and sunlightning stuff
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>straight swords have longer reach than ultra great hammers
why do i play this
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>>167120679
try greatclub r2 and read the thing you just wrote again
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>>167120653
Because you trade healing estus for mana which, in turn, you trade for healing spells, it makes about half of the miracles feel redundant. Healing in the previous games were in addition to everything you already had.
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>>167120758
>one of the ultra great hammers has a single attack that makes you wrong
The exception to the something is not the whatever anon.
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>>167117845
>fallen knight set
>dark sword
>greatshield
>legion etiquette
>"Summoning Phantom..."

>blue phantom summoned through concord
>blue phantom is wearing the abyss watcher set
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>>167120808
To add to this, I feel like the game would have been better balanced if they sticked with their numbered Weapon Arts they had in the beta or the presentations of the game initially.
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>>167119998

Bump

I have no problem giving anything that I may have for them.
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>>167086151
What happens if you need more branches of yore but you dont have any?
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>>167121160
Look it up on the wiki and figure out which ones you missed. If I remember corrently, there are 19 in total in SotFS and 19 statues to unfreeze, a good number of them being purely for extra loot.

The most obscure one is a guaranteed drop from one of the red phantom insolent knights in the catacombs, somewhere past the first bonfire.
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>be Dorkmoon
>finally get a summon
>OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY
>spawn in and see Edgelord420xXx slow walking towards the host, Dark set and Katana for extra edginess
>cast Crystal Soul Spear at him
>doesn't even attempt to dodge
>get's one shot
>mfw my first darkmoon summon in aeons lasted less than thirty seconds
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>tfw all I want is portable souls on a cartridge just for the novelty

>streetpass invasions of real people in real proximity to you

I want
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I miss getting hatemail, steam isn't good for it. You can't just shoot people random messages.
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>>167121538
Switch won't have streetpass or miiverse.
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>>167121397
>He doesn't even attempt to dodge
I bet he cried about how OP magic is afterwards
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>>167121614
...what

why

those were the actual good parts of wiiu and 3ds
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>>167121554
Turn on comments on your profile and you'll occasionally get lucky, or you might get a group invite.
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>>167086151
are the demons evil?
why are they all fiery when humanity has burned out

what did miyazaki mean by this?
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>>167121669
It's because they want to play it off as primarily a home console.
Switch will also not use its own community hub. They've stated it'll use "existing social media".
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>>167121781
It's hard to say if they're evil or not. They're apparently capable of cooperation, as they've been employed by other factions, so they might not be 100% evil, but they sure do seem to hate anything that isn't a fellow demon.

>why are they all fiery when humanity has burned out
Literally what
They're running out of fire by the time of Dark Souls 3, because the Chaos Flame has gone out and apparently the demons are dying with it.
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who would win in a free-for-all fight between all the protagonists under the conditions that they all have:
>the meta level pvp meme builds of their respective games
>from their games' launch versions
>with launch version properties
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>>167122140
dark souls 2 havelyn

no contest
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>>167122185
I dunno, the Hunter had that 12,000 AR rifle spear
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>>167121781
>are the demons evil?
Not inherently. They are evil to humans I guess. Some wanted to defend their homes and some decided to go somewhere else, like the burg.

Demons have been subjected to some genociding in dark souls 3 it seems. They are also dying out on their own by loosing their flame. You can see tons of bodies in the demon ruins.

These got killed by either Anor Londo(which means the bodies are really fucking old) or the kingdom of Lothric(Lorian killed their prince it seems) or it was the Ghru(I doubt they had the power, either way they moved in later)

The Ghrus could mean it was the abyss watchers who fucked over the demons though.

The big ballista seems to be made by Anor Londo for fighting the demons. You have Anor Londo slave giants lying dead around it.

>why are they all fiery when humanity has burned out

Not sure what you mean by this.
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>>167122185
mundane avelyn does/did a shitload of damage but it's still countered by pressing the "literally become invincible" button
it's easy as shit to dodge

I still vote DS2 though, not because of avelyn but because of 0STARTUPFRAME painted guardian scimitar parries and mundane shadow dagger oneshots
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>>167122140
Do they get prep time?
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>>167121554

I get and send tons of steam group invites all the time. shit is cash
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>>167122327
actually dual avelyn had such long active frames that you needed extremely high AGL to dodge it
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>>167122140

demon's souls because it has:

>a spear that completely destroys equipment in <10 hits which cannot be blocked
>a spell that makes you survive death
>borderline infinite healing
>borderline infinite mana

major weakness is no poise, but frankly I don't think he needs it.
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>>167122185
That crap was hard countered by even the shittiest of shields. I never understood all the complaining about it.
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>>167122327
not to mention sanic binocular backstabs
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>>167122492
>shoots you with 6 lightning bolts through your shield for 1100 damage

psshh..
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>>167122140
Dark souls 1 had invincibility with strong magic shield. You also had the fog ring which disabled lock on for the opponent.
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Is there ANY reason to use a shield in Dark Souls 3 other than for aesthetics?
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>>167122327
>0STARTUPFRAME

Really?
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>>167121538
Is that fucking sword leaning on Gael even in game?
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>>167121781
>why are they all fiery when humanity has burned out

they're burning out too; the chaos flame is dying.
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>>167122616
people actually used strong magic shield in DaS1? I never really saw it come out
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>>167122327
>try to attack even a single time
>get 2000 damage in the face
>implying you are going to kill a guy in full havels in one hit
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>>167122651
Doesn't Gael use the executioner's greatsword? It looks like that one.
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Is the Corvian Greatknife any good?
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>>167122491
>tfw no scraping spear
Tfw no blind blade
W H Y
>>167122738
Idk man that looks longer and like it comes to a point but you could be right
>>167122760
Yes
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>>167122710
When the invincibilty glitch was there, yes.


Still pretty useful after that to be honest. It's really strong like in dark souls 3.
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>>167122650
yes, but that was eventually patched out
it was probably a bug
it was only on one specific curved sword which was a rare drop from a non-respawning red phantom that only shows up in NG+, so it took people quite a while to discover it
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>>167122319
>The Ghrus could mean it was the abyss watchers who fucked over the demons though.
Ghrus aren't demons, they're ex-people who had been corrupted by the Rot of the swamp, like the corvians of the Painted World
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>>167122319
Everything you say is right but the one thing I'd pick at is the stuff about the Ghru. I think the Ghru are actually a type of Demon, or the transformation is due to Chaos. The Ghru Shamans use a White Hair Talisman, which is why they can do both a healing spell and a poison breath spell, implying they've been down to the Demon Ruins. I imagine that, after the Abyss Watchers linked the fire and the other divisions of the Legion didn't have much to do, some of the acolytes went down into the Catacombs, found their way into Smouldering Lake and stayed there long enough to become the Ghru. Some came back up to Farron, but others stayed down there and some might have turned into Demon Clerics. Ghru being a sort of demon/Chaos mutation would also explain why the Black Knight is hostile to them, and the Black Knight in Farron Keep might have chased the Ghru all the way up there.

Demon genocide does seem to be a mix of Anor Londo and Lothric's work though, yeah. Lothric used demons as workers (Stray Demon was a gate keeper, Batwing Demons carry you) so it might have taken a bunch as slaves or something when Lorian killed their prince. Carthus might also have been responsible for a good deal of Demon deaths too, seeing as the Demon in the Catacombs is hostile to the skeletons.
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Can the japanese copy of DS3 on ps4 play with any region? PC playerbase is giving me cancer might swap to console for a bit but I only have the japanese version for when the game came out early.
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>>167122882
that's what the "allow cross-region matchmaking" option is for anon
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>>167122857
>they're ex-people

Never said they weren't. I know they are decendants of the acolytes of the undead legion. What corrupted them, I do not know. I kinda like this >>167122873 theory though.
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>>167122967
Is cross-region only for Japs or does it affect other East Asians as well? I'd love to be able to stop the Koreans from playing with me.
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>>167122967
i hope you lads make your blueberries earn their ears like good little policemen
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>>167123089
the only 2 regions in DS are "japan" and "filthy foreign lands"

if you are not in japan and you disable cross-region you just can't play with japanese players any more
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>>167119586
Oh okay, thanks
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>>167123256
>1055 damage in a short span of time without taking any damage
Pretty good
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>>167123076
I think they became Ghru first and went down into Izalith later. Their aesthetic is totally off from what you see in normal chaos demons, they are organized, they use poison, everything about them references rot decay as opposed to chaos. Keep in mind that the game isn't shy about calling out references to the Chaos flame, it's usually quite explicit: "oh hey this was a chaos demon." No such peep regarding the origins of the Ghru. I think that this all implies that it was the swamp that did this to them, and the pyro came later after the lands converged and the Ghru started exploring beneath the catacombs that teleported next to their territory
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>>167119621
Im sorry what?
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>>167123201

Looks so fucking annoying.

Can't wait to try it out.
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close one this time

and all the other guy did was spam 2kat l2
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>>167123201
>that stutter in the video

Why?>
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WEW queelaag is kicking my ass, everytime i go in I learn a new attack i need to avoid.

>hit her for 34 damage
>phantom hit her for about the same
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>>167123775
I told you dog
ASS is ASS
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>>167123201
why does mine take forever to cast
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>build im going for needs the Mirrah chain armor
>want to get the Master of Expression achievment
>need to give a pale tongue to receive gesture
>need to be in Sirris' good graces to get Mirrah armor

help
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>>167123891
Why does it do 300 damage at full power?
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Does anyone ever put a sign outside of scorpioness najka?
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>>167123872
I have a +3 longsword and some lightning resins left from gaping dragon im going to try.
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>>167124030
No, if they put down signs it's usually by the bonfire

>>167124053
>+3
Dog what are you doing
You could have had a +7 weapon by now
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>>167124030
she's actually at a popular spot for sunbros iirc
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>>167124105
Its alot of running, ive kept going hoping ill find a shortcut back to firelink.
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>>167124030
Check at the bonfire, the areas with an orange border are active for summons/invasions.
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>>167107063
>that thing in ds2 where it maks you slow if you're in combat
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>>167095970
>>167088369
I already liked it before so Dark Souls 3 just satisfied all my desires.
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>>167118225
demon;s souls had so little armor sets to choose from
you wouldn't meet like half the npcs unless you replayed each level enough to fuck the world tendency
nonexistent quests
item weight

DS1 was an improvement in every way
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>>167123440
>Their aesthetic is totally off
How so? Demons come in all shapes and sizes, and we've already got the Taurus and Capra Demons as examples of bovine/caprine mutations.

>They are organised
Not any more or less than regular Demons, who are quite capable of using and making weapons and apparently had a social structure that recognised a King and a Prince by the time of Dark Souls 3.

>it's usually quite explicit: "oh hey this was a chaos demon." No such peep regarding the origins of the Ghru.
You are right about this but I think the other evidence (>>167122873) still stands.

>and the pyro came later after the lands converged
But it's incredibly likely that Farron, Carthus and Izalith were all connected before the lands converged. The Undead Legion were dedicated to containing the spread of the Abyss, so it makes sense that Farron Keep was built on top of the Catacombs of Carthus, a nation that utilised the Abyss, in order to keep an eye on Wolnir's dark magic fuckery. We can see from the Undead Settlement and the Cathedral of the Deep what the convergence of the lands looks like: giant rifts in the ground and fucked geography, whereas the mausoleum has that sort of sliding trap door mechanism thingy that leads down into the Catacombs. And we know Carthus, or at least the Catacombs, have always been on top of Izalith because Carthus pyromancies are derived directly from Chaos pyromancies. Furthermore, all the Oolacile stuff in Farron implies that it's in the same place as Darkroot once was, meaning it's probably always been in Lordran and therefore above Izalith.

I'd say that Ghru aren't "true" Demons, but I think they are still victims of Chaos. Hell, it's possible that they're mutated by both Chaos and Abyss, as both of those could be causes of Farron turning into a swamp.
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>>167124327
>>167124118
Shaded ruins?
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>get summoned
>watchdog detects two faggots
>get stabbed in back by another phantom
>check their profiles
>both germans
>loli shit plastered all over their profile

I aint even mad.
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>>167122857

>ex-people who had been corrupted by the rot of the swamp

protip: that's what demon's are. when a lord soul shard goes wild it warps whatever poor bastard has it, like with oolacile and izalith.
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>>167111290
Thank you for keeping my waifu company while I am away.
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would anyone be willing to drop me a Cathedral Knight Helm? ive been farming for a while and no luck

also a Mirrah set, i just learned i cant get it anymore

sorry to beg
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>>167125127
I thought demons were specifically the spawn of Izalith after she became the bed of chaos when she lost control of the chaos flame? Demons are parasites spawned by the bed of chaos that sort of merge with their host like a symbiosis.
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>>167125207
Mirrah knight, i mean
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>>167123076
To be honest, it's probably easier to think of it this way:

Farron Keep is clearly a border fort at the foot of Lothric. There's a path of largely contiguous terrain that connects the two, meaning that the world collapsing in on itself isn't the reason Farron Keep is in the game. The Legion's base was part of that kingdom.

Smouldering Lake is a battle ground. Demon corpses are piled. Corpses don't randomly fall into piles 3 or 8 tall just from disease, famine or old age. They were killed and their corpses disposed of in piles.

Who killed them?
Well Lorian's sword mentions him slaying the Demon Prince, implying that the kingdom of Lothric fought a war against the Chaos Demons at some point. Hell, they even use a tamed Stray Demon as a gate guardian.

If the Legion really is part of Lothric's kingdom, then it makes sense that they fought alongside the kingdom in that kind of all-or-nothing battle against the inhuman forces of Chaos itself. It likely happened after the Abyss Watchers themselves had already linked the fire and left their foot soldiers behind to tend the graves. Hence why Ghru, alongside Black Knights, still occupy the Demon Ruins now. They aren't trapped down there, they're a suppression force.

The Ghru themselves probably just mutated over time due to their environment. Creatures, including humans, changing over time to reflect their sins or their habitat is a consistent theme in souls enemies (eg. gaping dragon), so the Ghru transforming from human undead into deformed creatures probably took place over eons of sitting without purpose, occupying the decaying remnants of their home and the dead stronghold of Chaos.
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>>167107147

you realize demon's souls is faster than DS3 right? a major complaint about dark souls at release was how absurdly slow it was.
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>>167124831
Sometimes if a player is from a certain country they're guranteed to be an awful tryhard
>Germans
>Russians
>Brazillians
>Spaniards
>Koreans
>People from obscure Central/East Asian countries you haven't heard of
Likelihood drastically increases if their profile is weeby.

Earlier I kept invading the same two Germans, one a weeb and the other a brony, who kept password summoning each other, kept seeding, and still wouldn't dare come near me.
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Moveset + bleed, or just AR?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141408
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141475

Is 27 vig enough for sl 40-50 invasions? I could go down 10 SL if I took off hornet and used the knights ring then shaved off 5 str and end.
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>>167125313
Mirrah chain, you mean?
Creighton's set?
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>>167125365
They were using weeb names shirokami and ryuuii or something was the host, Just made it so much funnier when i saw they were german.
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>>167125345
Obviously he's talking about DaS1 and 2, which were very slow paced.
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What SL should I be if I want the most potential areas to invade in?
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>>167125493
shit, linked the wrong build

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141478 (bleed)
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141475 (AR)
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>Invade a world
>It's a fight club
>Interrupt it because fuck you for hosting while ember'd
>Host Curses me
Fight club faggots are the fucking worst
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In scholar can anyone on PC help me with scorpioness najka?
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>>167125273

the chaos flame is the witch of izalith's soul gone wild after she tried to turn it into a new flame, causing her soul to go chaotic, with the pieces left over that didn't go chaotic being used for pyromancy. Anyone who has a piece of the witches fire soul, and stays within the influence of the chaos, is slowly turned. It's the exact same scenario that happened in Oolacile when Kaathe tricked them into some unexplained action against manus.
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>>167126001
there's an npc summon for it isn't there

after you summon him Tark even gives you... something or other, i forget what
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>>167125694

yes I know, I'm calling him a faggot.
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>>167125597
Yes
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Are Greatswords the most broken weapon class in Dark Souls 3 PVP?
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So is it confirmed that a Manus like being is what a Pus of Man will probably ultimately turn into?
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>>167126394

nah, they're basically just budding abyssal demons. if anything they'd turn into snakes.
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>>167126621
>>167126621
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>>167126071
I dont think so
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>>167126001
If you kill all the ghosts old guard bradleys sign will be near one of the towers and if you go to the left after leaving the bonfire and down into the little building straight ahead you will find a scorpion dude, I cant remember which ring it is but you need a certain ring to speak with him, i think it might be from shaloquir but im not 100%, after you speak with him youll be able to summon him too.
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