AGDG Amateur Game Dev General

Hello world

>>167059425
aw heck i wanted the first post.

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one more day, one more chance

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hot fresh speedrunning tips ??

If I clean the apartment and get my life together I will nodev for a day. What do.

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>>167059793
have autism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM

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>>167059793
>that death screen

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Gooble gobble one of us!
the Rect tool is fun

>>167059958
he's not wrong

one day games will be about intrinsic reward again

>>167060078
I like Lewis Longarm and his long arms as he walks. He don't give no shits.

>>167060078
hahaha

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>>167060078

>the one with the retarded leg

>>167059518
Yuki is my waifu. Tonight I will make good progress for her.

I want to make an MMO, where should I start?

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>>167060078

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>>167060365

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>>167060078
neat

>>167059793
Can you post the old gifs of you fighting the skull boss where he's going to take over the world for no FUCKING REASON

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>>167034385
>>167035037
>>167037921
Here. Now give me my artguy shekels

>>167060365
I'm sorry to say this, anon, but Haruhi is an overrated piece of garbage. Yuki is fine though, but she ended up in the wrong crowd.

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ALL GLORY TO THE GURU DEV

>>167060886
I'm sorry to say this, anon, but your opinion is wrong and Haruhi is a great series.

>>167060449
With an idea

>>167060449
start by looking at the 99.9% failure rate and realize that you're a dumbass

>>167059958
that moment you realize you have wasted your goddamn life and it's caught on camera

>>167060449
Separate your game into a client and server, all together, with movement prediction and yadda yadda, simulated latency. Then separate them via a protocol into two actual executables and add the TCP/UDP stuff.

>>167061153
it was glorious. true kino

>>167061220
wow that sounds hard. how do you do that in rpgmaker?

>>167060449
1999

>>167061421
was he trolling when he claimed to beat the record the one time he didn't stream the game?

>>167061448
Very carefully.

>>167060449
I'm sort of doing this, but really only for learning and stuff. It's probably a very bad idea if I ever wanted people to play it.

If I animate for one body mesh, can I easily add armor to it later with the same animations?

>>167061740
If you transfer the weights to the armor some how

>>167061740
Yes, make the armor pieces children of their respective bones and it should be fine

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>>167060856
Also, now that I look at >>167034385, I think you should take out that "move and stop" mechanic. It kinda ruins the point of choosing the right path at the right time.
Instead, I would make something like pic related, so that you have to time your movements to avoid hitting enemies in your way.
Looks like a cool mobile game, btw.

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>>167062136

>>167062274
More games should do this, right?

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>>167060078
how did you do this

>It's like X, but Y

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>>167062795

>It's like [your favorite game] but good

>>167062795
>X and Y are two obscure games that were only released in Japan

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New poster here. Would a match-4 styled after Kirby's Avalanche work well in a 3D engine, or should I go for a 2D engine?

>>167063160
>2D gameplay
>3D engine
For what purpose?
Really it depends on who does the art.

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Ayo
you talking to me cracker?
nah just kidding, you cool

>>167063289
UE4 is easy to work with and a good learning tool.

>>167063402
eat a dick, jermaine.

>>167063471
2D libraries are trivial to work with if you aren't a shitter.
Dunno about your level of expertise though.

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>>167060856
>instead of a random corner

to be fair, it's not random. top-left is where the eye always starts because that's how we read pages

>>167063509
I'm >>167063160, but not >>167063471. I code for a living and my preferred language is C++. I do have some OpenGL background. Not sure where to go from there.

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>>167062959
basically 90% of my ideas in a nutshell

is that bad?

>>167063509
It's still a nice platform with a large community and a good way to learn some things before making other game designs. I'm a different UE4 person making a different project. Just saying they aren't making a stupid choice if their goal is learning, or if they have the art skills to really do a great job of 2d gameplay in 3d graphics.

>tfw .Net dev
>tfw creeping on people with DateTime

"Where were you yesterday?

"umm what?"

"You think this is a fucking game?"

"Umm I'll just exit the program and restart it..."

>Write the time out and save it when the game closes.
>Do check to see if the user just restarted teh program.

"YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST RESTART BITCH?"

>Delete save files
>Write data into the alpha channels of .png assets to hide data

"You thought you could just "Re-Roll" your character? You thought you could just savescum? You thought those worlds just "Stopped Existing" because you deleted the save files... Anon the "game" has just begun."

>>167063702
go to bed tobyfox

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>>167063059
>X and Y
>obscure

in what universe mate

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>>167063738
Toby's the kind of fucker I could see shitposting here.

>want to post my progress on agdg
>scared people call me "who?" and tell me to fuck off

>>167063510
that chart is so wrong

>>167063702
Now try that again with coherence.

>>167063803
whodevs are only people who come with nearly finished games to start shilling their greenlight/kickstarter/patreon whatever

or people who post only on recaps/demo days and don't participate in the community

>>167063803
post some barebones thing first like a cube of some sort, then slowly show your game in subsequent posts as if it was progress

>>167063803
I'm a who?

Don't fuck off, I'll be nice. Can't guarantee anyone else's behaviour of course.

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>>167063803
You post your progress right now or I'm gonna kick your ass.

>>167063892
>one week later
>"ok guys here's my greenlight"

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>>167063510
That's true, but that changes when it comes to videogames.
In videogames, you don't read that way, but instead you have a "play area", and a "look area", which are usually near the center of the screen, not the corners.
The "play area" is where the inmediate action happens, and the "look area" is where you're looking at most of the time, since that's where you are going to be next.

Then again, most games (even some in this pic) just put GUI on the corners because sometimes it's hard to integrate it in the game's world, or it would occlude other important elements.
But in your game, it's perfectly doable, so I think it's the best option.

Also, putting it on the left corner would fuck up the balance of the image composition, so if you really want to go with corners, at least put score on the left, and objectives on the right.

>>167064036
I'm not the anon making that game

yes, it doesn't always work, but I just wanted to point out that it's not "random" either

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Rough animation outline for a Five-SeveN. No polishing/curve editor/camera work yet.

Gonna make the slide pull snappier, the mag in needs some work, and mess with the thumb hitting the mag release since the timing seems a bit off. Gonna speed it up a little as well.

Anything else?

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>>167064179
Also here's the draw and lower for it.

>>167064179
>>167064246

Animator-kun-senpai!

I wonder if you could teach me how to make melee animations.

>>167063943
>one week later
wow, you could stretch it out to, like, 3-6 months at least

>>167064179
>>167064246

You said before that you've worked on actual real games before doing animations.

What games are you referring to?

>>167064416
wut

Most of the stuff I post has been for a popular mobile game (Bullet Force) but that's about it. Otherwise I'm currently animating for a WW2 game called "Our Ghosts of War" but I don't have any previous experience.

I only got into animation about a year ago.

>>167064246
i wrote a poem for you, it's called loading:


you load it when you take it out

then you put it back

and take it out again

to load it once more

but it's already loaded

because you loaded it before

remember?

>>167064516
I'll write you a poem

It's how my client wants it

it makes me mad too

but I get paid

so fuck you

>>167064483
>I only got into animation about a year ago.
i remember you doing reloading animations a year ago.... have you been doing nothing but reloading animations?

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>>167064602
Well I've been doing a shitload of client work so yes. I want to branch out and learn/practice character animation but I don't have the time since I have so much client work to do. As we speak I have a knife, M60, and the rest of that Five-SeveN to finish. For the WW2 game I have so many weapons to animate that I can't even list them all. For the WW2 game, here's one set of animations for one weapon. All of the weapons (seriously, 10 are modelled out, and much more are coming) will need all of these.

I'll be busy for a while.

I'm thinking about taking ritalin to enhnace my dev performance, do any of you have any experience with it? I have a source where i can get it from, so i'm wondering if its worth it

make frequent backups

>>167064840
Seems like a bad itea to me senpai.

>>167064754
well you're welcome back when you become a gamdev.

>>167064932
>A contraption capable of flight? Are you shitting me da vinici? That is a terrible idea!

>>167065027
Do we really need to have the art is gamedev discussion again?

>>167065128
you're doing 3D animation contract work, that's not gamedev, you need to have a game to do gamdev
>>>/3/

>>167064754
>>167065128

You're making money on this work I assume?

It's pretty much explicitly gamedev. Every game has people that work on it, doesn't mean they aren't making game.

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>>167065228
They're for games, kys. Filtered.

>>167065282
Yeah I'm getting paid for it, as well as profit shares on some of the games I work on.

>>167065327
>Amateur Game Development General
oh sorry let me change that for you
>Contract Worker General
alright you can post now, me and the gamedevs gonna be leaving though, have fun.

>>167065327

Nice job bro, keep up the good work. Many are jelly of your literal job developing video games.

>>167065401
I always wonder if it's the real gogem and he's just a retarded shitposter, or if everybody just puts his name on just make his look even more stupid

TBS without a grid

>>167065035
>Comparing "taking drugs because you're not good enough" to DaVinci creating machines.
You're very stupid already, I'm sure ritalin won't make you any worse

>>167065438

>Warhammer 400000 Squad Command
>Divinity Original Sin
>Valkyria Chronicles
>Phantom Brave

gridless turn-based is actually something I'd like to make in the future

>>167063510
>top-left is where the eye always starts because that's how we read pages
Not everywhere, my friend.

RPG where you start at max level

>>167066180
Any with a level 1 run? I'm going to have a level 1 run challenge available in my RPG and due to how damage works, you can still get through to the end without complete stat shutout, just gotta get good. That's the plan anyways.

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finally got paths drawing, should be a lot less frustrating to move characters this way

>>167066180
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/hero-must-die-system-introduction-trailer

>>167066348
is it textured draw line where line segments connect the array of points given by unity path finding?

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>>167066430
>five additional days to live.
>He’ll also gradually weaken, so you must decide how you’ll go about and who you’ll help during your limited life.

wow, this is kind of what I want for my game as my main character is suffering from high blood pressure, but with 1 year instead of 5 days

>>167066720
nope i'm calculating the position of each dot, they are each an object with a quad and a dot texture

>>167066781
Go for it, anon. It's a still rarely done niche. Make it and be successful.

How do i make game if i have no drive to do it even though it's one of the few things i actually want?
The only time when i actually try is when trying to prove people wrong OR when trying to not let down another person.
And no none of you can help, none of you are of importance to me so what you say will have no effect sadly.

>>167066781
Gib tips for making an action game pls

>>167067032
jews
i mean juice

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>>167066945
>And no none of you can help, none of you are of importance to me so what you say will have no effect sadly.

Then why bother asking? Here's a list of the tools I started learning how to use, which is pretty much everything you need to get into 1-man game-design:

>Sai (or preferred sketching tool)
>Gimp (or preferred advanced image editor)
>Blender
>Unity
>Audacity

If you don't know how to draw at all you can probably skip the first step, as it's mostly an artfag tool for sketching. Anything else should really be done in something like Gimp or Photoshop.

>>167067149
Different anon here, isn't Audacity for editing? Or can you actually make music in it?

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>>167067149
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO THAT ROBOT ON THE RIGHT TOTALLY LOOKS LIKE ME FROM THE THUMBNAIL ALONE

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>>167067032
1. Work on the controls. Make sure it feels good.

"even if the game is good, it won't matter if the controls are bad. because the player can't get to that good part if he doesn't have the means to get there." (paraphrased quote from Shigeru Miyamoto)

2. think of your player abilities and think of your design for enemies. try to make it such that a player ability is designed to counter a specific enemy type (or types), or is useful in a specific situation (higher ground, bottleneck in the map, being surrounded, etc.).

make sure you give meaningful defensive abilities for the player because if not, the game will devolve to just spamming the attack button.

also helpful if you make it that abilities can be combined together in interesting ways

>>167067443
That's a really good character design

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>>167067443
GRIFFITH

>>167067443
>Griffith put on the Berserker Armor

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>>167067032
What do you mean "action game"?

I'd love to help but that's like saying "adventure game", way too vague friend.

>>167067215
Yeah it's for editing primarily. I was planning on using it to create synthesized robot voices, maybe even with my own voice recordings.

Any tips for legally free software that lets me actually make music for my game?

>>167067275
Pretty cool anon! That guy could fit right into my setting too, if I dirty him up a little.

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>>167067443

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>>167067512
>>167067542
>>167067768
ha! haven't thought of it that way

>>167067476
thanks

>>167067894
>Guts armour on the Keeper of the Flame

>>167067768
My sides.

>>167067894

I'd keep his flame no homo if you know what I mean

>>167063402
lol i'm gonna screencap this in case you ever become successful, ya racist

>>167065327
>taking this long to filter googs

>>167067625
you probably shouldn't use an adult swim character in your game

>>167068965
What?

>>167065435
There is no difference anyway.

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finished implementing the first phase of passive skill tree. does the shape look good? how would you make it look better?

are there any good lightweight alternatives for unity navmesh?

there is lots of gameobjects using navmesh in my game and its pretty heavy. i dont care if its free or not. i just need better solution than navmesh

>>167069237
What's the theme of the game? Yours sort of looks like a circuit board, which could be a good thing to play up if it meets the aesthetic.

How can I force myself to make a game?

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>>167069472
good idea. the game is rather themeless at the moment so i could try something like that out. thanks for the idea anon

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hahaha

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>watching tutorials
>artist shows his desk
>poison action figure

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>>167069739
Poison is hot and there is nothing wrong with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8LbkfSSR58&list=PLbgaMIhjbmEnaH_LTkxLI7FMa2HsnawM_

Got recommended this, maybe useful for people here.

>can't even bring myself to try minimal pixel limbs art
Man.
I really don't want to do art.
Fuck art.

>>167069852
Use placeholders

>>167069842
best trap

>>167069842
Threadly reminder that Poison is originally a girl and the Westerners didn't want to have people punching women in the first place so they made her a trans only to just permanently replace the sprite with a guy for the original arcade game.

So yes you Westerners made her gay because you are gays.

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>>167069842
>>167069968
>mdw Poison doujin by Chinbotsu

>>167070049
Those are truly the greatest doujins. Chinbotsu is god.

>>167069994
My dick cannot take this news.

Can we do this more often?

>>167069994
that makes no sense becaue chun li

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>>167070174
>>167070049
>mfw I forgot I recently took a screencap of a Poison doujin by Chinbotsu I was "reading"

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Guys, post music you listen to and inspires you while you dev away.

Personal favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krAHZIfk9YI

>>167070326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrjondjCLEc

>>167070326
While we're on the subject, does anyone know what "machine-like" beats like that is called? I've tried looking up multiple genres to try to find music with a similar "mechanic" feeling, but all I find is either trance, dubstep, heavy metal or something gaudy in between.

>>167070326
secret garden

>>167070326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwquipMpsiQ

because it sounds like something off Nier

In GMS, I'm trying to make a string that gets input from an array whose size changes. Here's what I have that's not working at all:

newdisplaydesc = string(origdesc) + "## Loaded with: "
for (var s = 0; s <ds_list_size(namelist); s++){
list[s] = "#" +string(namelist[|s].name);
var len = string_length(newdisplaydesc);
string_insert(list[s],string(newdisplaydesc),len+1);
}

I was trying to use string_insert to continually add new strings depending on how long the array is, but it doesn't work. Any ideas?

>>167070512
Sounds like industrial to me.

Give these a go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLIi_ZMBfQs
https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=m1cRGVaJF7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJdt25fl9oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbZM0u_jpk

Are there any mobile grand strategy games?

>>167060078
YOU'RE ALIVE

>>167070783
What's the output and input look like exactly? Do you essentially want a function that is
List[String] => List[String]
or one that is
List[String] => String.
I can't really tell, as the code you provide seems to conflict with what you described, as far as I can see. I don't know the specific details of GML.

>>167070954
I'm planning out a CK like game where you play a mercenary band... So not grand stratergy at all actually.

>>167071231
TaleWorlds is that you?

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>>167069624
>tfw will have to re map the UVs to the new textures
Some fun hours await me! kill me

>>167071193
The goal is for "newdisplaydesc" to basically become a string that holds a all of the names from "namelist".

>>167071231
>>167071320

I want to make a simple grand strategy game like CK2 or Nobunaga portable or something.

>>167068767
>t. autist

>>167071392
So the second one.

var newDisplayDesc = "";
for(var i = 0; i < lengthOf(namelist) i++) {
newDisplayDesc = newDisplayDesc + nameList[i];
}
//newDisplayDesc is a concatenation of all descriptions.

replace the syntax and functions with real gml shit. Consider that just pseudocode

>>167063402
>>167071352
the feet on your characters are just plain awful and I'm not talking about it in a sexual way

>>167071553
So the rest is good? That's great. Thanks.
But seriously, I pay very little attention to that part so you're right.

>>167065627
i really like Divinity's battle system. i'd like more gridless turn based systems like that in games

>>167071643
Yeah, the rest is good, I like it and I'm not being sarcastic. It's just the hooves that bother me.

>>167063702
i like this a lot

>>167071535
Oh cool, yeah I pretty much have it working now. Thanks!

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>>167071740
Actually only the MC has the 'hooves' (and I made them like that on purpose, I think they look cute). Other characters have more 'standard-shaped' feet.

>>167071735

I thought it was real-time with pause? Never played it

Is speedrunning a good way for people to notice your game?

>>167072026
nope. turn based action point system with no grid.

>>167072026
nah, it's turn-based with action points system like the old Fallout, but without a grid.

haven't played it but judging from let's play videos, 1 meter of movement is 1 action point or something like that.

>>167072059
>>167072076

Intelesting.

should I watch shaun spaulding or heartbeast when starting out in gamemaker?

>>167069237
Zachatronics is that you?

>>167072227
Heartbeast effectively rips off Shaun, but presents it in an easy to understand, babby way for people who want it explained like they're 5 years old

I like him

>>167072227
Spaulding. He has a good way of explaining things to an absolute beginner in a way that doesn't go over your head. Heartbeast has a tendency to not explain things well enough when you're just starting out and have no experience to figure things out on your own.

>>167072227
Heartbeast is a great guy. I recommend him, I watched everything he did when learning GM:S and I spent a great time with him.

Never quite enjoyed Shaun, besides Shaun's videos are generally outdated in my opinion, although I recognize that people like Heartbeast etc were mainly inspired from him. Also my goal is a top/down game so Heartbeast fit better with me, Shaun is more sidescrollers.

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Daily reminder that only a healthy dev is a good dev.

- Exercise every 2-3days (Jogging, Swimming, Biking)

- Drink 3litres of water everyday instead of Soda

- No Junk/Fastfood

- Keep a healthy sleep-schedule or you will feel tired and progress will be impossible.

>>167072227
>>167072341
I should add that I'm not saying to not watch Heartbeast. I just recommend getting that absolute basics from Shaun and then watching Heartbeast if he does stuff specific to what you want.

>>167072227
If you go with Heartbeast, and you follow the "top down" tutorial, then be wary that he uses the inbuilt GM collision/physics system, which is super shitty.

His Spelunky rip-off tutorial implements a proper collision system

>>167072227
Heartbeast is so cute. Cute!

>>167072398
Nice to see you healtyposter. I wish you'd get a cuter picture though

When you're creating a mobile game, you have the layout of all the buttons done, how do you deal with different resolutions?
Do you order a fixed-resolution buttons from the artist? Do you program dynamically-scaled buttons?
Do the buttons need to be vector graphics?

>>167072031
if you're willing to pander, why don't you pander to an audience that's been proven to be susceptible to pandering?

A-N-I-M-E

pander to A-N-I-M-E

>>167072552

Anime vs Furries

>>167072508
Probably?
To scale bitmap buttons, look into 9patch

>>167072485
I agree with this, despite recommending him this is something that bothered me. I have a feeling that he himself wanted to learn about Box2D so he decided to go with this instead of using a proper collision system like he did for his other games like Cave Boy and his own game Grain War.

This is by the way something he's often doing, learning things through teaching us. Not that I mind though.

>>167072508
I'd like to throw in the idea of having a button placement option so people can map the button location themselves if they need to.

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Progress
>added overheat when energy hits 0
>flying without certain upgrade consumes energy (can be seen on enemy mecha)
>added shield sub weapon (might make it cost energy too)
>made the ejection animation bit better by adding one more frame

What would be a good theme/premise for a gridless, turn-based strategy game?

>>167072568
furry is what you pander to if you don't have the skill to pander to anime

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>>167072398
I'm glad these reminders keep appearing in this thread. They are a great contribution to the discussion and hopefully as time goes on, more anons will understand the value of healthy lifestyle and its impact on dev.

>>167072939
Time travellers try to take over the world in the past, in a time period like the Flintstones.

You start with cave men with clubs, and eventually get mind controlled raptors with lasers

>>167072939
Make game about crusaders conquering Jerusalem

>>167073195
>>167073270

I'm something sci-fi. Either that, or a dark souls inspired Icewind Dale type game.

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>>167072398

Here, I just improved your picture x1000

>>167072939
Demons fighting an invisible war with angels over the minds of humans in a major city, doing stuff like causing terror and deploying succubi.

An xcom-like bank robbery game where you have to keep your hostages in check and level up your robbers after each successful heist. Different operative classes are good at different things, like negotiating with police, intimidating hostages, or sneaking around.

FTL except turn-based.

>>167073662

1) Shin Megami Tensei type game could be kinda neeto
2) That's a really cool idea
3) I'm already getting some ideas coming for something like this

>>167072939
SHMUP except turn based.

>>167074031
Already done.

www.siliconera.com/2016/12/31/next-jump-re-imagines-shmup-tactical-game/

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Jesus getting this transition to work properly took a hell of a lot longer than I thought it would. Seems to be a theme with me lately.

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collect hidden squirrel coins to unlock new parts to customize your Squirrel!
Demo/Greenlight coming this week probably

>>167074146
there was also R-type strategy game so which came before that.

>>167072903
Pretty damn neato. Mecha Metroidvania?

>>167074195

why do they keep looking at their crotch

>>167074195
textures look pretty good. why is he on fire and also >>167074265

>>167074265

Suppose to be an idle animation where he's catching his breath. I'm gonna change it to something more normal though.

>>167074356
Thanks! It's an effect to let the user easily know which spell he has ready to use. In this case, a fire spell.

>>167074205
I just have to say, every time I see anything you ever do I just shake my head at how badly you fuck up the design of all UI elements.

>>167074538
at least he's consistent

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>>167072939
you are the leader of an organization who is trying to prevent an impending end of the world.

your group's secret weapon is a time-travelling device which lets you go back to significant events in the past to alter the outcome of certain battles, in the hopes of nudging events away from the cataclysmic event.

this means your agents have to infiltrate certain groups, help them win, but at the same time, not let them know your true agenda.

it's also a convenient excuse as to why you can redo missions over and over in the game.

that's the premise but you could put it in a medieval fantasy or steampunk setting if you want (steampunk might be more appropriate given the time-traveling, and you could fashion your organization as a "Men-in-Black in steampunk").

>>167074538
how about some feedback, What dont you like about it?

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>>167074240
>Mecha Metroidvania?
Yep. You can customize your mecha (to some point) and even get out of it. The animations still needs some work (need better jump animation).

Though I could use the eject animation as jump (contra gets away with shooting while rolling in air so it could work)

>>167075216
Please tell me your MC is a girl and not a girl(male).

>>167075308
She's android girl, don't worry.

>>167075216
Autism triggers everytime I see the gun and chain go through the floor of the deactivated robot.

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>>167075216
>Metroid x Metal Warriors, with a dash of Contra
Fucking awesome.

>>167075216
>>167075369
Great.
Oh and, I completely forgot to say that your game looks awesome and I always love to see your progress. Keep it up!

Anyone know if you can get the actual collision point of a Collision Event in GML?

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>>167074904
I'm not that anon but I'm willing to try
>sliders for colors
I get why games do this but it's awful for actually picking colors. please at least provide a textarea so you can just copy paste in hex colors
>modal selections
Those arrows on the side are tiny, and it's hard to tell exactly what your options are if you just have to spamclick. Icons would be much better, but failing that dropdowns are good

The amount of screen space that actually demos the stuff you've picked is tiny, at least compared to other character creators which do half UI, half demo. pic related.

Actually looking at it, the flow of your UI is wrong too. English speakers naturally go from left to right so generally speaking you should have input to the left, output on the right

One thing RPGs often fuck up is having character creation at the start of the game. When you just plop down into the game, you have no idea what any of the mechanics are or what is good or bad.

>>167075606
of course

>>167074205
>>167074538
>>167075637

It looks fine, fuck off you edgy cunt.

>>167075792

That's why, whenever I play an RPG, I like to make like 2-5 or even more starting characters and redo the tutorial/starting area over and over so I get some idea of what they actually are like. Character creation is half the fun of playing an RPG but I don't really know if there is any way to improve it. Putting it later in the game would only be good so people can save then reload to create and try out multiple different characters.

Only other idea I can think of is to just have some good 'preview' abilites and descriptions on whatever character choices you have. Like 'Fighter; Strong and Tough, gets fighting moves. Eventually gets to do edgy ultimate anime attack! And maybe show a preview of it or something.

>>167074205
it has a kids show style, i like it

>>167076017

Games need to be classless, or let you change class easily. Skyrim and Fallout 4 get a lot of flack for dumbing everything down but at least you can't fuck up in beyond race selection in Skyrim or SPECIAL selection in FO4.

Dragon's Dogma gives you a tutorial sneak peak of what the typical fighty class is before you make your character, so you know what you're getting into. (Although I hate the way the classes in DD give you specific stat points whenever you happen to level up while currently in that class)

>>167076215

I disagree. Limiting classes works for some games. Especially a game that tries to emulate old school DnD, and especailly games that are all about adventuring WITH A GROUP of other characters like the first final fantasy. Naturally people will create a party based on what they think is a good mix, like a fighter, mage, healer and a wildcard. Then this works even better because you can go back on a second run and create meme parties like all fighters or all healers for fun.

Personally I really want to create a game that emulates old school DnD's playstyle; ie going through dungeons and fucking dying constantly. Darkest Dungeon is a pretty good example but you know what I mean.

>>167076215
>>167076017

But it can really fucking suck when you plop yourself down with something like Pillars of Eternity, pick a class like monk and go "cool! I will be an evasive fast kang foo dude" only to discover your entire class ability list is based on tanking damage and building up wounds in combat

>>167076394

That's the price for depth and character customization.

>>167076375
There's no tabletop rules styled RPG vidya games in recent years that lets your main character die and get replaced

>>167076394
>>167076495
How would you feel about, for example community integration? Like when creating a character you'd see a set of comments ingame about each class and a searchable list of builds?

My gut reaction is that ruins it, but for that to be true that means fucking up your character due to a lack of knowledge is part of the appeal

>>167076513

I wouldn't even have a main character. Just make the game have a few regular recruitable characters instead. Go into the dungeon as a squad, get raped by minotaurs.

I do really like the idea of a game with a really brutal death and damage system; something like you get hit once and injuried, hit twice and you die. Some attacks can just kill you outright depending on your armor level. You would make the game turn based and make it more about 'protecting' areas of the battlefield, having a 'threat' zone where if you enter you get hurt. So the idea being is to catch your enemies with spells, ranged attacks, or brute force them into getting hit and killed.

>>167076059
>>167075637
>>167075921
thanks. ill work on improving it and making character viewport larger

>>167076765

Well, everyone tries to shoehorn in muh story and muh protagonist nowadays, as if roleplaying means "playing the role of some specific person doing the specific things the game designer wants you to do"

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Comfy sailing dev here. Some anon in the last thread suggested I made some sort of 'pick up bottle of rum and drink from it' animation for the player character if you idle for a long time.
Now, I think it's a pretty nice idea. I was thinking of doing something similar where the player leaves the steering wheel, lays down on the back part of the ship and takes a nap (maybe even putting her hat over her face).

I have a doubt though: if you press a button (like to steer the ship, unfold the sails, etc) you will have to wait for the player to wake up, stand up and get back to the wheel before anything happens. Would that be frustrating?
I mean, the game is supposed to be slow and comfy, but I wonder if that would be annoying.

>>167077749
Depends on how often the resting animation plays and how urgent doing things will be needed

If you go into rest mode whenever you idle for a little it may get annoying needing to get out of the animation constantly, on the other hand if you're comfy sailing and are suddenly closing in on land a bit too quick and need time to not fuck yourself up it could lead to frustration.

Other than those two things, it sounds great and you should totally do it

>>167077749
If it only triggers after a long time, the person has already been waiting. And if they come back to the game after going away, they won't mind a get-up animation because they have to get into the game anyways.
Just don't make the get-up animation any longer than ~3 seconds.

>>167066945
These posts where nodevs ask us how to wipe their own ass are the worst.

>mommy how do I be a functional human being and have will power? ;___;

>>167078051
>>167078123
The 'napping' animation would only play after a while (like 10-15 seconds, maybe more) that you've been still, and only when the sails are folded, so it's not like you'd risk crashing into stuff because you were sleeping.
Thanks for the feedback.

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How to into good arm-gun design?

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>>167078168
or

>how do I do things that I want to do?
>how do I not be lazy?
>how do I think thoughts?
>i wish i could do all these things but ughh you know? just ugh

>>167073009
I wish I had the skill to pander to anime

>>167078168
>>167078371
I think just as bad are posts from devs that are like
>haven't deved in 3 weeks :( don't know what is wrong with me
>just thought you should know i'm a nodev now pls remember me though

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How is this design? I'm trying to not make the design too complex because the game's using sprites.

>>167078552
Pretty cool. Reminds me of the Xbox Live avatars.

>>167078552
If you're using vector sprites that looks fine.
If you're planning to do pixel art and also plan to animate that character, you may as well kill yourself now and save yourself some stress.

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>tfw using coroutines for everything

>>167078168
to be fair motivation is partly genetic

so if you're lazy, you were possibly born that way.

>>167078943
Smart man.

>>167079102
People can lose their willpower through bad mental and physical health too. Like if we had everyone in the thread (who isn't already making progress) go for a short walk you would see progress posts start popping up just from that single walk.

>anon sends a dumb tumblr ask with horrible english
>ignore it because asks sent as anon must appear on your devblog
>continue answering other sensible questions
>anon now spams me demanding i answer his question

>>167078552
how about some pants

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>>167078835

>he doesn't make pixel art by making a vector, rasterizing it, and resizing it over and over

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>>167079102
>to be fair motivation is partly genetic

When will fatties stop using genetics as the scapegoat for all their problems?

>>167079707
but no-one even brought up fatties

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>>167079620

>>167079813
I assumed you're fat because blaming genetics is fatty mentality.

If you're not fat then you're just a plain pussy, which one are you anon?

>>167080094
i'm not even him you retard

>>167080037
>prove to me that exercise improves mood and creativity
I don't think I care enough whether you believe a piece of common sense or not.

>>167080128
Then you're an idiot for responding.

>>167080189
>oh no somebody else responded to me on an anonymous imageboard!
>i thought this was a personal message box!

>>167080170

Oh I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you.

But you haven't proven your statement. Citation fucking needed.

>>167080264
>I'll respond to someone instead of the original guy he was replying to
>"wtf im not the same guy retard why did you assume that"

You're not just an idiot but plain autistic.

>>167079707
>>167080094
You seem like a fag but I agree lazyness is not a genetic thing and that sounds like a fat person excuse.

We have seen some hilariously lazy "devs" come and go though who were not obese (the ones homo enough to post their pictures).

>>167079625
pants were just gonna be almost pitch black anyways, so they weren't going to have any detail

>>167080417
>i'm posting on an internet forum for the first time and i really had no idea that other people might comment on conversations
imbecile

>>167080445
>We have seen some hilariously lazy "devs" come and go though who were not obese (the ones homo enough to post their pictures).

Of course, but there's a difference between being lazy and knowing it, and being lazy and blaming your genetics and saying there's nothing you can do about it.

Besides, being lazy can be a good thing sometimes, they say a good programmer is a lazy one, but that's assuming he's actually getting his job done. Laziness as in "finding the shortest way to a solution", and not in "not even bothering to find a solution".

>>167080542
>I get immensely butthurt and take it very personal when I reply for someone else and that person assumes I was that guy. I really had no idea he might do that

Cretin

>>167080689
we've been through this you dumbo
i have, for the standards of an anonymous imageboard, gently explained i am not the person you thought i am but then you started throwing an autistic fit
fuck off you waste of oxygen

Newfag here. I want to make a visual novel, and since I've got experience with Unity and Gamemaker, for the dev side I should be fine, but I can't draw for shit. Should I just take the risk and learn to draw or look for a like-minded artist?

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you have to be fucking retarded to be this delicious, you're begging to go extinct

Any good Substance Designer tutorials you guys would recommend? At work right now just kinda dicking around with it and I'm so lost.

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How would a remake of Gangsters organized crime be received in the century of Steam? Just finished This is the Police and it was quite fun and steamspy tells me it sold reasonably well.

>>167080845
>you called me a retard
>i called you an idiot
>i'm the one throwing an "autistic fit"

Start breathing pal.

>>167081538
to be honest you are the retard here

>>167080875
>being a fleshcuck in 2017

lol

>>167081691
nah you're just plain dumb

>tfw to retarded to get Webm for Retards to work

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>>167082597
try webm for super retards

>>167082859
>>167082597
I fixed it, although I might actually be retarded.

also I have hyperautism

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-->> P R O G R E E S S <<--

>Dynamic lights
>>Might or migh not keep them, if they end up too distracting

>Boldened font for readability

Gonna start working on loot spawns next.

>>167080852
p-pls respond

>>167080852
Please don't use Unity for a visual novel.
If you're looking to make a simple one you could even use something like WPF

>>167083720
how easy is it to port wpf to consoles or mobile

>>167060078
This is going to make so much money if you finish it.

>>167083629
gamedev is multidiscipline so yes, learn to draw. it will be useful to you for the rest of your life.

>>167083629
I recommend finding an artist unless you're willing to practice for months and months and make tons of assets (all of the different characters, poses, facial expressions, possibly different outfits) as well as handling all the writing/coding by yourself.

>>167080852
Putting even drawing and coding aside, can you write? What's the VN even gonna be about?

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>>167083903

Do 3D art lmao

>used to think VNs were easy for anyone to make due to the minimal coding and tools like ren'py
>tfw you see VN creators struggle with even that

>>167083793
I don't think WPF can do consoles. If it were me trying to do that, I would use Monogame, but I've never used Gamemaker so maybe that would be fine.

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i don't know if this system is better than my old system

Would you guys yell at me if I made a character a trap-like almost heal-slut? The main character is a tomboy and i want her brother to contrast her

>>167084356

damn son this is shaping up

>>167080852
what >>167084017 said. i tried to do a vn a long time ago and got decently far into it before i realized i had no writing skills. dont waste your time if you cant write well. practice that first.

>>167084040
making poses with 3d models and drawing over them isn't a terrible idea actually

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>>167084356
old system

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>>167081257
>How would a remake of Gangsters organized crime be received in the century of Steam?

>Isometric turn based tactical games are having a strong PC resurgence thanks to xcom etc.
>Market for crime related tactics game is somehow almost entirely bare.
>Except for omerta that was really shit and left people wanting more.

If you could do better than pic related, you would make bank, I expect.

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It's a paid game but the only way to beat it is to make other 3 people buy it.

>>167064483
Oh nice man I've been following Our Ghosts of War since the concepting was posted on Polycount! It looks amazing, hope it lives up to how it looks

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>>167072398
>start brainstorming a ton of ideas
>getting excited, start walking around and smiling
>walk to the kitchen and end up stuffing my face while thinking
>end up fucking eating everything

how do I stop this

>>167084356
>i don't know if this system is better than my old system

Are you joking right now cunt? Any system that prevents the player having to mouse over individual items in a sea of items is a huge step up. I wish more top down shooters did what you're doing.

>>167083857
>>167083903
I suppose I'll try to learn but look for an artist anyway.

>>167084017
>>167084454
I'm fairly confident with my writing skills but I'll work on that too.

Thanks for the advise

>>167084521
Pokemon

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I want my players to feel like they met God at the end of my game without resorting to generic Jesus or man-in-the-sky memes.

What's a good method?

>>167084790
depends on your game and its themes

>>167084559
You don't.

>>167084367
As long as you just like make game.

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rebindable controls. woo

>>167084790
can't be done

>>167085159
glad to see helleton lives on

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Switching things up a bit: anyone here try their hand at sound design? Has anyone ever tried making their own sound effects/audio cues with DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations)? I haven't done too much of that and think it would be an interesting thing to learn, since a good sound design feels about where a third of a game's polish comes from. Anyone have stories/soundtracks to share? I'm always up for a listen, or swapping advice.

While I've had many ideas I've tried to make a game, I have slowly realized that about all my talents are in the sound/music department, since I have been using music-making programs for 7+ years and have played/studied music since childhood.

I did just finish up a soundtrack last fall to a as-yet-unreleased horror pinball game, using programs that emulated the Sega Genesis soundchip (making Genesis chiptunes is one of my hobbies):

sample track:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/demons-tilt-ost-dealing-with-the-devil-ym2612-sn76489a

full playlist:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/sets/demons-tilt-sample-fm

Playing the previews, it looked like it was really coming along: lots of nice gothic artwork and a few nice features to keep the pinball entertaining - if I get permission I'll probably try to share some screens here.

I also did another soundtrack (with sound effects) for a game that was ultimately abandoned back in 2013-14, as well as some contributions to arrangement albums like the Metroid Harmony of the Hunter 101% Album. Sorry if it sounds like I'm shilling.

If anyone is far enough along in development to start thinking sound/music, send a message on my soundcloud. I'd love to try my hand in an action game, adventure/vn, or just about anything.

I write all types:
jazz:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/enigma-of-the-shark-a-glass-before-we-go-intermission
synth-rock:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/battle-against-an-underhanded-foe
lovey-dovey piano music:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/love-in-the-deep-project-sea

>>167084790
Watch the second episode of Youjo Senki, you don't have to watch the first.

>>167084790
Some sort of abstract or "trippy" entity would be the best bet.
If god is some sort of force of nature, do something that looks like a nebula or a fractual.
If your god is a ancient machine or alien race, some sort of industrial looking gigastructure in space.
If your god is some sort of extra dimensional or spiritual entity that humans can't conceive properly, do the old face that forms out of some sort of abstract same or object.

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>>167085114
But what about the porn and doujins of him? This is important.

>>167084367
>tomboy
>heal-slut

pick one. A healslut needs to be submissive and quiet so nobody notices when the tank starts fondling him in the middle of the raid.

>>167085290
>First few minutes: Some boring as shit guy monologuing about how edgy he is in an office.
>Skip ahead randomly: A shrill voiced loli is spotting for artillery while hoving in the air and some enemy soldiers who are flying on skis are mad that their superiors set them up.

ANIME.

>>167085478
it won't matter if you don't make game

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>>167085739

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i added drones who deliver packages for the player

>>167078552
I like it. Point 'n' click adventure?

>>167085739
The anime is dumb but the scene where he talks with God was pretty well-directed, especially when you realize that the original novel had the generic bearded man.

>>167085837
Hype.

>>167080852
Have you made other types of games? You could start with something small like a game jam, so you can see how it goes- either by yourself or with an artist. I've seen devs hiring artists have trouble with them flaking. I think it's because they pay them less than minimum wage across the board, but that's beside the point. You'll have more control over your game if you're able to do at least some of the art.

On the other hand, art is one of the most important determining factors of whether someone will pick up your VN in the first place. They won't give your writing or coding a chance if they don't think the screenshots LOOK interesting.

It could take several years to be able to do art well. You could take an alternative route by making a naive or minimalist art style appealing, if it fits the theme of your game. Another route is stock art. Aviary Attorney comes to mind. I think that's mostly stock art but still looks original.

>>167085837
This just made me think of a nifty mechanic, so thank you.
And it looks pretty good. Is evading as slippery as it looks though?

>>167084790
The entire scene pulses in the palette as God speaks.
God only speaks in text, its voiced as bass lines and some sort of rumbling noise(think: Zelda OoT NPC noises, or Okami, or the thing you try to free in SOTC).

Also give him no "form". Its like a cloud of contrast somewhere on screen. Or a gigantic shade of something more abstract, yet animated

>>167085175

Why?

>>167085718
The tom boy and heal slut are siblings. No fondling. He will just be timid af and cuter than his sister

>>167085975
thanks
>>167086128
i hope not. this level is from when i used a smaller level size and the screen shake settings are bad so maybe they are making it look worse than it is. if you want to try it out though the demo day 12 demo is at https://nurikabe.itch.io/sssj12

>>167086392
I'll try playing it in like an hour. As long as the potato I'm on can play it that is.

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>>167086536
Thanks. I'll be asleep by then but I will leave this thread open and check it in the morning.

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>>167085290
>>167085893
You should've just said he talks through other people, not that original and big of a deal, and I wouldn't have wasted my time looking at how they butchered the art. I'll take Zeus-look a like any day if it means keeping the glasses and sharp look on MC.

someone post the engine comparison meme, the funny one

>>167086329
because god isn't real

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Progress:
>can block in all directions
>added jump animation
>improved some tiles and made new ones

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>>167078552
uh oh, looks like theres another glasses-wearing forward-pointing-sideburns girl in town

i wouldnt worry too much about the sprite since you just show details in a portrait or something and then the sprite just has to get the general idea across

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>>167086917
I hope it's funny enough for you.

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Improved the bombs a bit. Version with sound: https://webmshare.com/play/q7GW3