/egg/ Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

first for hiro fix your goddamn serbs you cheap nipponese jew

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Second for ridiculously small drone.

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Third for highly weaponized abortion brick.

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3rd for gas the marek.

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nth for rod logic

Has anyone been to the center of the galaxy in abortion yet?

How?

What would a game made by every /egg/man look like? What would it look like if kerbniggers infiltrated and tainted the project?

>>166808473
What are they used for?

>>166811007
Destroying anything that doesn't have lasers for dirt cheap.

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>>166810402
Planet based logistics in an RTS type view using established shipping routes and factories with water based NPC pirates preying on cargo ships, supplying resources to a spaceport construction facility where individual blocks are created ground up from physical and electrical connections that can be manipulated mechanically, hydraulically or electrically (with computers you have to construct yourself) with rare higher end materials in asteroid belts in the outer solar system.

>>166810402
>"Dare you enter my autistic realm?" scenario
Voxel building game with detailed atmospheric simulation and soft body physics, various materials with simulated properties and building system that makes use of it, allowing players to create many things with various unintended effects like spontaneous nuclear fission, but not confining them to simple forms like cubes and wedges, allowing creation of various curves.
Set in a universe mostly conforming to laws of physics, with instanced systems and procedurally-generated void sectors. Populated with both naturally evolved and player-created organisms, consisting of various parts and organs, with programmed chemical reactions happening inside, all defined through it's genetic code.
Next to nothing is hardcoded and everything is highly modular, allowing unprecedented moddability.
>What would it look like if kerbniggers infiltrated and tainted the project?
It works on java.

>realistic scenario
We go full Chucklefish, except every guy is the idea guy and we have only two coders.
>What would it look like if kerbniggers infiltrated and tainted the project?
We merge with actual Chucklefish and Digital Extremes, with Tiy and Steverino personally overseeing the development and monetization.

>>166809324
I'm up to the blue shit, debating remaking my ship in blue. Then there was some weird glitch where the blocks in build mode jiggled all over the fucking place, even when shrunk all the way, so I quit the game. Now I'm here.

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>>166811432
>We merge with actual Chucklefish and Digital Extremes
If this happened, I'd steal the music code, alter it for plausible deniability then give it to Redigit

>>166811328
>Send ship to asteroid belt because need resources for planet
>trip takes months
>Time warp to destination
>Planet bases go to complete shit because left unattended for game-months
Alternatively
>Send ship to asteroid belt because need resources for planet
>trip takes months
>Let the ship go while you take care of bases
>Can't do shit on land for months because you are waiting for ship to come back
>Forced to spend hours housekeeping your base

Doesn't seem like fun desu
You can't really have a complete experience both in space and on land, so in your game you would have to completely automate the space business and probably even assume it takes advantage of FTL travel so you don't have to wait forever or you would have to oversimplify things on land so you can enjoy the space stuff.
You can't really have both, the time scales are too different if you want to make stuff remotely realistic

My capable shoebox of death.

I wonder where the specialists go when you dismiss them.I hope they don't get spaced.

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>>166812014
Fcuk.

>>166810402
I know it's not what most /egg/men are looking for but I'd like to see a fantasy setting engineering game, with real-world laws aside from basic newtonian physics replaced with a semi-randomized magic system. Instead of reading up on the most efficient ways of creating the machine you want you'd have to discover how the particular world functions and then build around it.
For example you might want to make a self-powered, controllable car to ride. But instead of picking from a list of preset engine parts to make your cart move, you might want to research if you'd get more power by confining a tornado spirit into an axle or chaining up some reanimated owls and telling them to start turning their heads.

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So should I buy Avorion or not

Every post i see that makes me want to get Avorion is inevitably followed by one that makes me want to wait and vice versa

>>166812014
They don't go anywhere, they just sit in their cabins and become NEETs.
Space NEETs.

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>>166812095
>a fantasy setting engineering game, with real-world laws aside from basic newtonian physics replaced with a semi-randomized magic system.
>Instead of reading up on the most efficient ways of creating the machine you want you'd have to discover how the particular world functions and then build around it.
>multiple worlds with laws of magic varying between them that you have to research
Non-minecrap Thaumcraft-like fantasy /egg/ game when?
Is it still /egg/ if it's fantasy? Granted, magic means some serious fuckery with laws of physics, but aside from that, you'd still have engineering problems in need of a solution. Whether technological or magical.

>>166812312
Pirate, play, buy if you feel like it.
IT'S NOT HARD

>>166812460
/egg/ is about the autism of fucking around with in-depth game mechanics, not necessarily the realism of the game.

>>166812517
Not to mention that there's even a goddamn demo on the official site, which is a rare fucking occurrence these days.

Clang does not settle for page 10.

>>166810402
I reall, really reall want an MMORTSRPG Engineering, Survival and City Building game in a procedural post-apocalyptic world full of zombies:

-The world starts with some procedural communities with NPC survivors, which can in turn create more communities.

-NPCs can starve, and any dead NPC becomes a zombie.

-Players possess a random, pre-existing NPC somewhere safe, and are no diferent than NPCs other than being human controlled; you won't magically know the name of someone you meet, you'll have to assign them a name based on what you're told; expect liars, and players pretending to be NPCs.

-Food and resources are scarce, so you have to trade or even raid other communities. Alternatively, you can go full treasure hunter on a nearby zombie infested city or destroyed community.

-You'll need some logistics on that commerce, start on escort missions for caravans, end up going full OTTD with trucks, trains, ships and planes.

-Wether you're making love or war you'll need to design weapons, engines, vehicles and shit, so you've got to ake items out of other items with variables that could be modified.

-Created the design, now you need the factory: think Factorio, but every assembler is Infinifactory inside, and survivors can work as your bots, arms, basic assemblers, etc. Expect survivors to ask for payment.

-As communities grow and are successful, they'll get immigrants and population booms, time to leave Dwarf Fortress behind and go full SimCity. That is, assuming they even listen to you of course; hopefully you've played enough Tropico.

(cont.)

>>166814853

-Buildings don't spring up just like that either, so you've gotta design them too. Same goes for the electric network, and the communications network.

-As NPC and player driven alliances between communities grow, nations appear and you can go full politics, espionage and infowars, stealing other player's designs. Become James Bond, slayer of Donut Steel.

-Nascent civilization allows for larger armies, and full on large scale RTS: Macro beats micro but requires strong logistics, while micro can be used to beat the logistics and thus macro. You've got to be extra careful, since this'll generate a lot of corpses, and thus zombies to deal with.

-The endgame is to find the seven macguffins that can be assembled into an artifact that can be used either to mindcontrol an increasingly large number of zombies as you waste increasingly large ammounts of resources on it; if you reduce the resources used, the zombies over your control limit will attempt to destroy the artifact; be extremely vigilant of your supply lines.

-Alternatively, the artifact can be used to lift the zombie curse, thus ending the game and restarting everything; expect wars on how the artifact should be used, or even wether it should be assembled at all.

>What would it look like if kerbniggers infiltrated and tainted the project?
The game wouldn't happen at all. Not like it'd happen if they didn't infiltrate, either.

>>166811432
You're nowhere near my ammount of ideaguy-ness, anon

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>>166814853
>>166814905
Fuck it, let's mix this anon's zombies with >>166811432's procedural animals

>>166814853
I thought of an idea for a survival game at one point, it's not /egg/ though. It'd be the most realistic human biology simulator ever made, put inside of a very realistic ballistics simulator in a post-nuclear world. Every single internal organ, muscle group, bone, and major blood vessel would be simulated. You might try to execute somebody with a forehead shot and have it bounce back and kill you instead (only lower powered handgun rounds obviously), or shoot someone in the balls and make them sterile. This is of course backed by an advanced medical system, you could use hemostats to close an artery, suture them back together, and then clean and bandage it. Your medical skills would be greatly reduced on yourself due to pain, so it's best to not get shot.

There'd also be very advanced food, calories, macronutrients, and every micronutrient is required. To make eating less of a hassle, eating everything in one big meal at the start of the day is acceptable, and you can even set up a system to automatically buy and eat food and any vitamins you might need every time you sleep in a city.

In addition to that, it'd need really fucking good AI with realistic responses to combat. Some might freeze up, others might shit themselves and spray bullets everywhere, some might not be able to shoot at all, whereas elite soldiers will never hesitate and instantly go for cover when shot at.

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>>166815565
>You might try to execute somebody with a forehead shot and have it bounce back and kill you instead (only lower powered handgun rounds obviously)

>>166812460
Heck, get Azanor to work on it and make the ultimate "fukken technomagic" simulator.

>>166815113
I require a context and/or a source for the image

>>166815565
Add genetic engineering and give us bioclang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YzVYm3jtQ
Starmade Update 0.199.429

>>166815848
sssscomic.com

>>166808084
>start ashes of the empire campaign
>along with dustwind gypsies the following declare war on me
>lightning hoods
>white flayers
>twin guard

What do?

>>166815718
This has actually happened in real life before.

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>>166816324
Can you run away to space or does it reset the altitude every time you spawn in or out?

>>166816463
You can say that but I don't believe it.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/30/bullet-bounces-off-of-victims-face-and-kills-robber/
Skulls are fucking strong, they weren't made to stop bullets but with the right luck that doesn't matter.

>>166816739
I think you're misinterpreting this slightly. There were multiple assailants. IMO the person who pulled the trigger and the person who died were no the same person. A glancing ricohet is believable but not a bullet doing a 180 and killing the shooter.

>>166816881
It didn't say that the guy who died was the shooter, and it did mention that another guy might've been the shooter. Still, if a guy is on his knees and the bullet hits at an angle it could bounce off, hit you in the foot and kill you from infection a few weeks later.

>>166815565
Fuck ballistics, what about melee?
What about engineering our own power armour?

>>166814905
>>166814853
The only problem I see with this one is that it can't really be MMO as there wouldn't be a fair way for new players starting in a shitty empty settlement to compete with other people who have OTTD-levels of logistic networks and economies.

It would be good as a single player game or, alternatively, a server based game where everyone starts at the same time and no new players are allowed to enter as long as the game is not restarded

>>166817389
There'd be melee too of course, power armor is a bit outside the tech level of the game but I'd try to include exoskeletons if possible. You could engineer those yourself, from slow abominations made out of washing machine motors and rebar to military grade shit that's mostly found under heavy guard or in forgotten bunkers with automated defenses. In general there wouldn't be much futuristic stuff, maybe a non-lethal microwave gun or blinding laser rifles.

How do i claim Asteroids again?

>>166817953
Fly up to a really big one, within 200 meters. Click F on it and you can claim it. Only the stone roids can be claimed, ones that have resources can only be mined. Pretty sure these asteroid are only in hidden sectors.

Can I have some guidelines for finding valuable objects in Avorion that my long range radar detects? All I see is a massive asteroid field, flied through it a couple of times and didn't find anything.

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I may have found a new, more powerful form of the weaponized brick. The weaponized brick with thruster struts. I didn't make it larger cuz muh mechanics, but otherwise I would've made it a giant framework all around the vehicle.

>>166818724
does it actually increase torque?

>>166816881
I've been hit with 12 gauge birdshot I fired at a crt tv. Also there are at least two videos on youtube with people being hit by their own bullets, one guy shot a car wheel with a 9mm and another guy got hit with his own 50bmg out in the desert, shit you not. Granted, the targets were not skulls, but it's not completely entirely out of the realm of possibility. Maybe.

>>166816608
I don't know, I've never been to space yet.

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Christ. I fucked up /egg/

When playing Abortion I'd always crash when I looked at, was near, or sometimes just in the same sector as any semi-large scale battle (essentially any faction invasion), but for some fucking reason, like a god damn retard I decided to look at the battle.

I crashed instantly and now can't open my save file any more because it crashes before I can even fully load in.

I had 30 hours in that save file.
I had defeated two bosses and made over 10 million dollars and was finally on the high road to success in that save file.

Fucking kill me.

Fucking.
Kill me.

>>166820127
Works on my machine

>>166820127
It's a long shot but maybe the game will run using on-board video instead of the gfx card? Just enough to create a new save?

>>166819305
It seems to, and if not you can still use them as rhino horns for ramming.

>>166817497
EVE seems to work. Every few years or so one of those empires falls and a power vacuum develops that allows for new power players. When the Goon Empire fell there was a massive portion of the galaxy now free to be taken by anyone.

>>166820472
I turned down and disabled the last of my options and disabled damage numbers.

I managed to be able to load in for around a second before crashing
So, I kept doing that until I'd inched myself to and through a nearby gate.

Scared the ever-loving shit out of me

>your ships drifts 0.01 away from the dock while trading

In abortion the trading system offered me a trade route. I bought a bunch of shit and now the destination has no docking ports and I cannot sell it. Fuck you trading plugin.

>>166821303
why are docks even needed to trade? more frustrating than anything else.

>>166816608
>someone took the time to do all of this
And then you see people being shamed to do stupid OC.
Gee i wonder what studio could be behind this.

>>166822109
Abortion universe doesn't seem to have any kind of teleportation technology. Space-time warp, wormholes, hyperspace, but no teleportation. So if you want to transfer something between ships and stations, naturally you have to dock, or at least get close enough so the drones will do the hauling.

>>166820831
Yes but EVE is a completely different game than what you described.
EVE focuses more on the RPG element and the economy, there is no base building, no ship building except for the combination of modules and weapons you have available (the shape and base features remain the same), no classic RTS elements and most of what you listed is completely absent from EVE.

Although I see some similarities, I don't think it's fair to compare the two.

In EVE you have ships and that's it, while in your game you have ships, bases, defenses and whatnot that make the technological gap between new and old player much more relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMnOEgbm2fE

>>166822278
I'm not even sure if it's pro or anti trump. I guess since they made the dick-rockets so tiny it's supposed to be anti-trump? It kind of backfired for me though because the idea of trump crushing beaners in a giant mech is hillarious and gets me hard.

how big can you go in abortion?

>>166822543
ships have infinite fuel capacity. I should be able to trade with anything in the sector remotely.
At the very least I should be able to have drones take care of everything when i'm within a km of the station as a whole rather than within 0.0 km of a not-guaranteed dock block

>>166822767
In the end a mayan (?) pyramid/spaceship drops a normal chicken on the ground and it destroys the mech.
Trump is medevac'd but there is no surgeon to operate on him (cuz he was deported) and it's implied he dies because of that

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>>166822767
My guess is yes, it must be anty-trump.
But i also started to reverse engineer how to build a mecha like that in spengos, knowing it will clang to hell, but i dont care anymore.
>>166822929
I remember a webm from the demo, and you could go so big that you couldnt see the entire thing because it went out of the render area.
Id say pretty big.

>>166822697
>no base building, no ship building
>no classic RTS elements
>In EVE you have ships and that's it
Uhh, are you sure about that?

Fuck my game corrupted i was half way to the center. this shit really turns me off to play the game, at least i have my blueprints i guess

>>166823851
Make hourly backups of your save.

>>166823104
Last time I played EVE was like 3 years ago and there was no base building.
You could consider the combat to be RTS, but that's why I said classic RTS (I.e. base management, defense management and all the micro that is strictly not about combat units) as that is what, I believe, was the inspiration for the game described by the guy I was quoting.

Did EVE get base building in the last years?

>>166823903
Where's the save Folder?

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Remember kids, when you start a mega project make sure you got the dosh for it!

>>166823950
For the pirated version at least with the steam emu, AppData/Roaming/Avorion

>>166823929
Yes you can make your own stations now. And one of the largest battles so far was the destruction of a Keepstar which is 300b ISK.

>>166824635
Ah shit I didn't know that
What do you do with the station? Is it like an automated, self-sufficient outpost or is there some kind of management involved beyond the building phase?

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Initiating docking procedures

>>166823851
>Half way to the center

Don't worry you were probably less than 10% of the way there.
I still don't even know how to get to the center yet.

>>166823929
>what is a POS
There has been basebuilding for over a decade. Member Titans? You needed RETARDED infrastructure to build even one. Having more than five, no matter the size of your faction, was considered an insane investment. The Russians had 20 in 2006.

I noticed that titanium crew quarters have the same amount of extra crew as iron (which is logical). Besides the additional hit points, do more expensive materials perform better? Like generators give more power for the same size?

I know new blocks and functions are unlocked at higher tiers, but do existing ones get better?

>>166825449
Titanium is the lightest if I remember correctly so that should give you less mass for the same space.
Generators are better the better the material you use. Same with shield gens and hyperdrives. Not sure about thrusters.

>>166825190
>docking
LEWD!

can you make carriers in avorion?

>>166827465
>have hangar blocks
>can u carrier

>new patch
>Blocks inside integrity fields can now take 10 times as much damage before they explode
does this mean they don't stack or that size doesn't matter, or?

>>166827465
yes

>>166828218
It means the block has 10x more hp before it explodes.

>>166822697
You're not replying to the actual ideaguy (me) but you're kinda right it could suck.

Then again, you are a survivor, not a metaphysical entity, so you could use the OTTD logistics and migrate to the big city, assuming you didn't possess an NPC at the big city when you spawned. There being GUIs that'd facilitate the RTS, politics and and design side of things doesn't mean you're bound to a place. You could emigrate further away into uncivilized areas to try and grow, even go full secesionist revolutionaire.

And, hell, big empires have big death tolls, even for natural causes; a well placed strike could very well end up in a city falling to zombie uprising, so it'd be hard for big berthas to grow big.
...Which would give rise the issue of griefers just going out to kill any NPC they see to start a zombie downfall. Not sure how I'd go about fixing that, but preventing such a possibility is right out.

The real issue would be metacomms, ss13 already battles that issue, and it's in a WAY smaller game area way easier to monitorize for clues. Lots of dreams, and lots of issues that make the dream impossible, unless I somehow went full SAO and kidnapped the players' minds and my servers were powered on elven mayjjicks and unicorn pee

page ten

factorio .15 fucking wheeeennnnnnnn

I want to play but I don't want to get burnt out before .15 is released

god dammit, avorion is crashing on me every time i do a hyperspace jump

>>166835283
Then don't

>>166829038
it doesnt
hp pool isnt increased.

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>>166835835
You are retarded on purpose right now?
Nobody told the ship hp will increase, it increases the BLOCKS hp!

>>166833705

SUPPOSEDLY in February.

>>166808473
What game is this?

>>166838917
chode

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>>166838917
chode

>>166838992
>>166839178
Thanks, will buy and lurk forums like never before

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rate

>>166840917
Spacebenis-with-radioactive-herpes/5

>>166840917
>.405 D-V
Why even waste weight on fuel at this point?

>>166840991
Is that a carrier-battleship?

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Haha I don't think I've had this few deaths since I started playing again two weeks ago. Must be this new craft I made, it's working great for me. Will post pic

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>>166810402
I wanted to make an RTS space flight sim.
You have a map view of your planetary system and ships flying around. each spacecraft has a mission assigned which it executes on its own (no manual flight). missions must be fully specified before launch, including maneuvers, docking, landing, etc. precision of maneuvers, how much fuel they take and risk of accidents depend on crew experience/AI quality (of the on board computer)
you can build space stations docking multiple crafts together, for planetary bases you can use landed spacecraft, including reusing their empty fuel tanks, and build new structures from planetary materials (space mudhuts?)
You can mine valuable materials and return them to your planet for profit, you can also build in space so you dont have to launch from your planet.
Of course, bases and space stations need to be supplied, and their crews rotated,etc, etc

Actually I had started making it, managed to get a solar system model running, even got spaceships flying (but with no missions or AI, just orbiting)
I was using multiple body calculation for their trajectories (kepler celestial mechanics for the planets), but this slowed the calculations too much, especially for multi year long trajectories.
Then I tried to change to patched conics, but couldnt figure out the math, then I realized Im dumber than the mexican monkeys and abandoned it.

pic related is a screenshot, you can see the inner solar system and jupiter, no spaceship because I removed the ones I had before trying to make patched conics
I forgot I still had this sourcecode

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>>166842071
Yes

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>>166842543
I wanted to make an insect leg flier, but I quit before insect legs were introduced, and so when I came back last week, I didn't have any.

Thought, what can I do to make a quick, maneuverable sniper?

A giant mech leg! It looks silly but it works great. I can maneuver on clifftops quickly and easily.

The 6 jet engines are only 108 CPU, vs the two blue propellers I have. They're working great; I can jump with my mech leg, and I'll have enough thrust to start flying before I even start descending from the jump. All I have to do is turn to my objective, jump and hold down w. I think I can climb nearly vertical.

Landing is the hard part; I've never flown before so I'm still getting the hang of it. My strategy is to nose-dive into where I want to land, since if I go for a nicer, shallower landing angle, I ususally just miss the small landing spots completely.

I was having a problem with turning while flying until I added two more downwards-facing rudders; now handling is great.

The whole machine weighs under 6k, and the 6 Eagle wings provide just over 6k lift capacity.

I'm running 7 of the 2nd lowest tier rails; I can snipe non-stop and they do enough damage to kill (noticeable more than the green rails).

The overall goal of this craft was to be a supporting sniper that can *quickly* get to places, so that maneuvering to a more strategically desirable spot as my team moves is "cheap".

I made it with only what I had (plus what I earned from crates in the last two weeks), and am surprised and pleased with its performance

I'll take any advice

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>>166843363
>I'll take any advice
Stop using /rcg/ and then stop playing

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>>166840917
the railgun itself

>>166843748
fuck you we used to be a general

>>166815565
>There'd also be very advanced food, calories, macronutrients, and every micronutrient is required. To make eating less of a hassle, eating everything in one big meal at the start of the day is acceptable, and you can even set up a system to automatically buy and eat food and any vitamins you might need every time you sleep in a city.

>make extremely nuanced food system
>immediate ignore it because too much of a hassle

>>166843363
video of it:
https://youtu.be/RKAHTNaO28M

>>166844061
Yes, and both the general and its game are dead forever, no chance of revival, get over it

>>166844542
I'm having fun.
and it runs on linux!
no more booting into windows

>>166843109
Why even bother with the careful mission planning if you are not going to fly the ship yourself?

I know it shouldn't be named, but in this case KSP can be used as a comparison.
Part of the fun of the game is both planning and flying the stuff yourself and you can even manage to have multiple stuff flying at once if you are careful with the timing.

Giving the player only the planning part takes away a good chunk of th fun IMO.
Your idea seems cool, but this whole plan and don't fly thing has the potential to become super boring after a while, especially if you plan on making the thing complex and go all grand-strategy on it with dozens if not hundreds of ships flying together.

A system more similar to Aurora, that forgoes orbital mechanics completely in favour of a much deeper strategy, makes more sense to me.

Sucks that you abandoned the project.

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>>166843109
I'd play it.

>>166844738
fun is wrong

what is the best space combat system?
and why is it Eve Online

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>>166844954
>Eve Online
>right click on some motherfucker
>click 'shoot dis nigga'
>orbit around their dumb ass until victorious or ded

MMOs were a mistake.

>>166844954
>CTRL-Click
>Set Orbit
>F1, F2, F3...

I don't know anon, you tell me?

>>166845602
>>166845669
thats a gross simplification of EVE online's PVP, it actually goes
>see ship
>ship's better than you
>run away

the battleship warp nerf was a mistake, fucking Cruisers Online

this motherfucker disintegrates 30cm of titanium

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>>166845792
>pay real life money on a repeating basis for the privilege of getting ganked by a russian memeswarm
>the greatest things you will ever do is be a part of a fleet controlled by some autistic little shitstain screaming at you on voip

Its like world of tanks if it was a free for all, in spess, shit, and less fun.

Maybe if one got into it in 2004 and got really powerful. Maybe.

>>166845602
>fire artillery gun in space
>burst of expanding propellant sends ship flying back
>become masslocked with an asteroid
>nuts and blots that became dislodged from opponent's ship pierce the hull
>decompression rips off the entire side of the ship
>die from cosmic radiation
Space combat was a mistake

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>>166846038
oops pic

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This isn't exactly normal, right?

This energy requirement is by a single Titanium tier salvage turret after 2 seconds of firing.

>>166846125
>projectile guns in space
>being a nigger

>>166843851
0/5

it's shit

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Dual-mode steering is working.

>>166846729
now make it sanic

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My 1st legendary, and from a crate!

>>166846310
It's a known bug and will be fixed.
Stay really far from turrets that has that certain affix.
Some plasma and laser turrets are bugged too but not everyone, read their description.

>>166844742
>Part of the fun of the game is both planning and flying the stuff yourself
Indeed, that was another reason I abandoned it, I thought it would end up being boring without manual flying
Optional manual flight could be there just for fun, but the game would be designed for automated missions

>you can even manage to have multiple stuff flying at once if you are careful with the timing
you can but it becomes a huge hassle to switch crafts, sometimes just for a small trajectory correction maneuver, and launching to orbit quickly becomes boring

>>166847540
>caring at all about freejews retarded fucking system

I'd still be playing it if you could just buy shit without having to craft it. the fact you also need to be using a premium account or you get fucked is aggravating as well.

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>>166846937

>>166850771
More sanic!

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>>166850771
>recording program records its own notification

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>space engineers turns 4 this year

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>>166853427
how much?
>>166854367
Because it records straight off the framebuffer, I wish there was a way to turn it off though.

>>166854562
All of it.

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>>166854562
>>166854367
you can turn it off

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>>166855041

just brainstorming on the possibility of a bioclang fighting game

what would you prefer?

-sopre way:
you start with a root creature part (skull?) and add organs to build the body
pros: freeform creatures! put organs anywhere you like, attack of the penis monsters
cons: game might struggle trying to figure out how the creature is supposed to move 99% of multiplayer enemies will be penis monsters

-EVO way
you have a body already made and can change the properties of parts, like length of limbs, size of organs, etc
pros: probably better looking and better moving creatures
cons: not as much fun to create the monsters I guess, people will still make penis monsters

>>166855481
>spore way
if the game struggles trying to figure how the poor bastard is supposed to move, then it has proper bioclang

In factorio, do I have to uninstall all mods to get achievements or just disable them?

>>166855481
I prefer Spore [TRIGGERED] way.
Why do you even need a root part in building? In combat, though, the "root" is obviously the brain(s) redundancy+limited processing power+less than desirable speed of neural pathways that you have to protect at all costs.
CHoDE building system would suit rather well, at least in most circumstances.

>>166855481
Best way would be Fantastic Contraption, but you have to have cardiovascular and nervous systems. Power and control, respectively.

That sounds breitty gud, actually.

>>166856550
>actually going after achievements in an /egg/

>>166857289
Meh, why not?

>>166840917
It doesn't really fit the meta. Armor is always more expensive than munitions, so realistically you want just enough to protect your craft from micrometeorites. My doctrine is to use carriers that are filled with 4/8ths laser point defense drones, 3/8ths armored anti-laser missiles, and 1/8th mini drones for dealing with the leftovers that have no lasers anymore. There's other doctrines of course, some people use entirely drones, entirely missiles, very large laser capitals, etc.

>>166857375
It's fucking strange
Make a computer ingame, instead, then make it rung pong or something.

>>166857521
Not autistic enough for that

>>166857583
Then modify your personality until you are

>>166857583
Then rewrite all works of Mozart from notes to modules and play them on speakers

>>166857661
Nah I'm good hoss

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>>166812614
>every general i visit is known for its autism

>>166857726
Embrace the 'tism
Let it consume (You)

>>166857752
the entirety of 4chan is pure autism

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>>166854538
>4 Years a Early Access

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>>166856617
>Fantastic Contraption
Shit gets crazy when you refuse to let go of an idea you had

>>166856550

I believe you just have to have a game that starts from scratch and is never run while mods are active.

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>>166858187
B-but a game needs time to make!
Even AAA games with lots of people take at least 5 years to make!

Yes, someone actually said this.

In Avorion, is there any point in hiring specialists? Are they better than just generic crew that you assign whereever?

Is crew levelup even implemented yet?

>>166858719

Seems like all the games I enjoy playing are all games that have been in alpha/beta for around 4 years now.

And they still get fucking idiots defending horrible game mechanics because ITS JUST A BETAAAA!!

>>166859279
>In Avorion, is there any point in hiring specialists?
>Are they better than just generic crew that you assign whereever?
>Is crew levelup even implemented yet?
Yes, they work better, also they level up and then work even better.

>>166858187
That's worse than KSP, and dear god KSP had an absolutely disastrous development cycle

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>>166859493
Absolutely!
They cost the same in wage and if leveled up work 2.5 times faster than an untrained one!

In avorion, are different mats straight upgrades? I was under the impression that the different mats had advantages and disadvantages from each other.

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20fps on planets at lowest settings, why is this game so badly optimized?

>>166858719
Set phasers to enslave.

>>166860473
KEEN

>>166860124
Yes they are straight upgrades mostly.
Titanium is more lightweight though than Iron, Naonite, Xanion and Avorion.
Naonite and Xanion has no armor blocks and Ogonite is heavier than all except iron.

>>166808473
What the fuck are those other two, fucking Kolibris in space? Are these supposed to be fucking funnels?

>>166859493
>>166859794
Thanks. My basic crew didn't level up so I assumed it does nothing or not implemented, I was dumb. I was flying around with a crew of around 80 untrained man.

Do you know what exactly the performance boost gives for engineers and mechanics? I noticed you can raise them to 130% if you put more people to work.
My guess is that mechanics is faster repairs, but engineers don't seem to increase your generator output so no idea there.

>>166860473
even shitpyrion has better optimizations

>>166860829
And looks better too. And has more diverse plants by far.

Too bad the space part is so utterly inferior to spengs.

>>166860703
What other two? There's only one gun on here. I guess you could see it as more of a space hi-point chambered for kolibri 2.7, ugly as fuck but cheap enough that losses don't matter.

>>166860828
Yes, mechanics repair faster, I'm guessing engineers increase shield regen, not sure.

>>166860473
why do you blame your shity system on the game?

>>166860941
i would love empyrion if it has building mechanics similar to spengies, right now its more of a survival game than a building game

>>166861030
Don't even start to imply that spengies runs well on anything.

>>166861030
>a10 7850k
>r9 380 4gig
>8gn 2133ghz ram

>shity system

>>166861030
Marek please.
The gas is coming whether you want it or not.

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>>166860473
It's a beta

>>166860969
Oh, I was misreading the screencap. Nevermind. I thought it was listing a 2.7mm MG on the left.

>>166861068
Yeah, building is much better in spengs. And having a base actually has a point, while in Empyrion you can just have a flying capital ship base since you don't need a bunch of xbox huge refineries, boxes and assemblers that would slow you down way too much.

I wish Empyrion had a dynamic space part where you could pirate passing transport ships and explore instead of space only being a hallway between the planet and its moon.

>>166861318
I would make it about 2mm if I could, but the narrower the bore the higher the barrel pressure, it'd break if I did that. Still, it only fires a 15 grain (1 gram) projectile at 4900 fps (1.5 km/s)

>>166861484
>12.7mm
>15gr
>4900fps
Sum Ting Wong.

>>166861484
>4900 fps
I wish I had a computer that could run spengies like that.
And was still small and light enough to fit in my old potato case.
One can only dream and hope.

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>>166861182
Step it up sempai.

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>>166808084
Space elevator guy from last weekend here - if you guys recall we had a discussion over whether or not you could build an orbital tether in Space Engineers.

Well, I can confirm the answer is no.

The landing gear "maglev rail" concept works amazing, even with speed limit mods. Decelerating before you hit the end of the track is still an issue, but it's a manageable one. However there are two major problems that rule out the tether concept.

1) There is a ship/structure build cap of 40 km. Blocks will not attach to anything passed that. While that's still ridiculously long, it's only enough to get out to around 0.10 to 0.15 Gs depending on the planet.

2) There's reproducible glitch that occurs with ships/buildings on that scale. Trying to interact with any buttons or objects at the top will cause the entire structure to become incorporeal. You clip through walls, fall through floors, etc. Eventually if you go far enough down the structure will regain it's solid-ness, but the glitch will happen again anytime you interact with anything connected to the tether.


On a totally unrelated note, if you do try something like this - be really REALLY careful not to accidentally delete the bottom block.

>>166861659
It puts the Bang Ding Ow in 'em, that's for sure.

>>166861659
>>166862379
Sounds like a titanium sabot round.

>>166858187
At least they had the decency to change it from "alpha" to "beta"

>>166862162
>be really REALLY careful not to accidentally delete the bottom block
I know this flavour of pain.

>>166862162
Well done, you've surpassed limits that maybe even the devs weren't aware of

>>166861212
>a10
>nigger runs an APU
>then complaines a CPU bound game (which you don't fucking have in your system btw) runs poorly
This has to be bait, nobody would put an A10 in a "gaming" system, surely

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>half a byte is a nibble
Well ain't that just cute as shit

bytes, nibbles, bits.

>>166864253
and 2 bits is a genetic letter

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>>166864005
I think you'll find it's 4 bits

Seriously though, why do people use bits instead of bytes. Also, a kilobyte is 1000 (10^3) bits not 1024 or 2^10. 2^10 bytes is a kibibyte. I shit you not.

>>166864848
>a kilobyte is 1000 (10^3) bits not 1024 or 2^10. 2^10 bytes is a kibibyte. I shit you not.
weird, I was convinced it was the other way around
did I get universe swapped?

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>>166864848
Because except for specific situations, they're known colloquially as kilobits/bytes, etc.

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>>166865151
Kilo = 1000
kibi = 1024, ie cloest power of two to 1000.

>>166863152
A similar system might work with a bomber that detaches its own wings and kamikazes the target, that way you could dedicate more of the body to bombs

Will a 1060 run space engineers well?

>>166867957
yes

>>166867957
Most rendering calculations are done on the cpu.
So your gpu means little

>>166868143
I have an i5-4460

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>>166868392
Maybe?
I'm not too up to date on how KEEN has fixed and unfixed spengies as of late.
Just pirate it.

>>166861030
>i5-6600
>GTX 1070

Still runs bad

I really want to like Avorion but it does barely works for me. It's like having lag in a single player game. I still can fly around but every element of the enviroment is being unresponsive.
I've been looking through forum but without any obvious answers. So... what did I fucked up?

>>166870864
you bought an early access game without pirating it first

>>166870864
Are you sure your hardware can handle it?
Did you try joining a server?
Does the problem persist even in multiplayer?

>>166868392
I have a 4430 and run it fine in single player, multiplayer is fucked no matter what.

>>166870864
Try killing all processes related to avorion?
Fixes some problems.

So is Abortion multiplayer? Servers?

I dont like singleplayer spess gaems. i always feel so alone.

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I have a bad feeling about this.

>>166871181
The inner core is impossible to reach without getting (7?) legendary modules.
At least that's what I read on the forums.

>>166869025
i bet your pc is full of viruses and malware, it runs at 60fps stable in my pc crashing a ship in a planet nigger i7 4770k with 970 all maxed

>>166871181
didnt you read the backstory

>>166871181
prepare for Grox, or releasing the zombie apocalypse.
The story reminds me of SPAZ

argie v2 when
medieval argie when

>>166870995
...and who said I did?

>>166871008
My machine isn't a beast but I'm pretty sure it can handle it. I'm checking if the same shit happens if I get it on multi and host for myself this way.

>>166871098
Tried a bit of that. Jumping between game and server process. Resetting whole thing helps but shit happens again after some time.

>>166871778
what was argie?

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>>166871830
AVOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEON
The game's connection to the server in singleplayer died and when I load back up I'm just a drone at the first sector I started in.
My ship, crew and all the stuff on it are just gone, and I got no insurance payment on it.

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>>166871776
>Grox

>>166872279
I did not mean to reply to that post.

>>166858719
all these pictures always have these white women with their titties out about to be fucked by bbc in such a way you know they jerk off to it

white people have been cucked in their souls

>>166872279
We could try to test this with a Avor/egg/on serb.
Or use the dev's serb if it's still alive.

>>166862162
Go tell the devs

>>166872279
backup your saves frequently famalam.
your stuff should be where you left it

So I'm a neet with way too much time on my hand and enough discipline to consistently self-teach something a few hours a day, is teaching yourself to code and making a video game a meme or is it actually feasible for the average guy? I'm fairly good at Spacechem and some people say if you can do that you might be cut out for programming. Anyone got tips on where to start?

>>166872672
short anwser is no

>>166858719
>Star of David-shaped heighliner
Now I know what I'm going to build next.

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>>166872620
Yep, the ship was where the desync happened, thanks.
Here's a pic of it DAKKA the shit out of a pirate.

>>166872672
Go pick up GameMaker and see if you can hack it. It's a good way to pick up basic programming concepts (assuming you use GML) while possibly making a fun game.

Whatever you do, don't go to /agdg/. It has cyclic shitposts just like [redacted] and is generally toxic.

>>166872672
youre cut for programming if you were good at spacechem at 15 yo

>disciplined
>neet

>>166872672
Unfortunately you're not an average guy. You're a neet with no motivation.

Go to uni or get a job. You need something to wake you up in the morning and work towards.

>>166873040
RIP my fucking eyes

>>166872454
Don't you have some cotton to pick in the backyard?

>>166873267
But I already do have something to wake me up in the morning, I get up at 6 AM every day, eat, read for two hours and practice math for 1, eat a final time then do shit for the rest of the day. I'll get a job whenever I get my drivers license, so maybe I'm not entirely a neet.

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>>166873293
Yeah that's a bad angle for viewing, but good for aiming, have a tolerable pic.

>>166871356
>>166871585
Motherfucker. This is going to take forever.

http://www.avorion.net/forum/index.php/topic,502.0.html#

>>166873427
I'm Asian and I know a cuck when I see one, enjoy watching Jamal get on with it

>>166873609
I don't even know who's projecting his insecurities anymore.

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Here, I brought this so you don't have to go there.

>>166862162
Honestly I'm more amazed that you could actually make something that fucking big at all.

>>166873941
asians are very insecure towards whites because asians are the least masculine people on the planet

asian men have less testosterone than black women

>>166874245
I knew that trinium was lighter than titanium but holy shit 27%?
Time to convert my titanium bulkheads.

Are mining fighters good? I hate mining in abortion because it's slow and I have to do it all manually.

>>166874245
Thanks senpaitaichi. Am I the only one who thinks there should be "density" column instead of "mass", as well as HP/density instead of HP/mass?

>>166874930
Mining is good until late naonite, it gets horribly slow after that.
I make all my resources with salvaging.
Unless you get a really good efficiency miner, don't bother.

Am I autistic if I unironically enjoy salvaging in abortion?

>>166875332
You're already autistic if you play abortion.

>>166823054
Fuck it, let's make spengieronis great again

>>166875332
I love salvaging with chainguns

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tonks

>Abortion
>find an interesting story mission, "Enemy of my enemy"
>some nice break from the grinding
>meet up with a smuggler
>pick up mission
>suddenly a xeno army randomly warps in
>kills quest giver
>mission failed
This is why I make save backups every few minutes.

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>>166877095
Tree dicker

>>166878212
Drift king.

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>>166877095
Yes hello I am tonk

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eggpyrion is not ded

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proper crew mechanics for Starru madu when?

>>166879849
makes me smile

Does anyone know any good pve mods for spengies that weren't broken by the beta update?

>>166871181
>>166871356
>>166873536
Fuck, I was wondering about this so hard.

Also
>Woke up
>Avorion got patched
Today is a good day.

>Hyperspace blockers have a range of only 20km now and you're hyperspace bar will turn red if you're blocked
>AI prefer attacking armed ships
>Trading with ships only requires you to be within 200m of them, not 0m
>Integrity fields are no longer just shield-lite's and function differently
>Fixed mouse steering being unselectable in controls
oh lord yes

>>166881624
>Does anyone know anything good that wasn't broken by a spengies update
Fixed it for you.

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>>166881863
b-but it's only early a.... fuck it's beta already

>>166881863
My question stands - any good PvE mods?

>>166864848
Ahh fuckoff, it's pedantic name change to placate worthless autists and it's fairly recent.

>>166879849
>/pol/ plays empyrion

>>166886145
>fairly recent
Uh wat? Bits has been a thing since computers first started. Or are you talking about the nibble thing?

>>166886457
the kibi- shit.

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I wonder what the secret is?

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>main bus intensifies

>>166887636
>not disabling cortana
kys

>pirate Shenzhen
>boot it up
>asks me to check the manual
>check manual
Oh my goodness. I am going to buy this game now. BRB buying a binder too.

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>>166879849
Reminds me of that scene in the beginning of LEXX series where Foreshadow destroys Brunnis-2.

>>166887407

>tfw egg clan only has 3 people in it and a ton of pending invites because nobody ever logs in to let people into the clan

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>>166886457
>>166886523
kibi-kikery was introduced in '98
>19 years
>still noone cares

>>166887636
next time put 2 belts, then 2 empty spaces, then 2 belts...
makes it much easier to draw lateral belts when the bus grows wider (steel, batteries, plastic, etc)

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Turns out a good counter to those annoying sprinter-leg-mega-shotgun bots is just to... have more shotguns and health
Actually, I think that counters a lot of things

Since people are actually playing robomeme again, post your usernames so I can add you to /egg/.
I'll make someone I know a officer or whatever to do invites since I ain't playing much.

>>166888664
Will running in the 90's be a counter for anything in Robocraft?

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>>166888865

CrunkPrime

fag

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having a lot of health definitely is nice
those little tesla thingies that zip around and kill people in seconds
they can't do it quick enough before I blow 'em to smithereeeeens

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>>166888886

Being a fast car will literally never be a counter to anything in Robocucks.

>everything will go faster than you
>everything will have more responsive controls than you
>everything will have more armor than you
>everything can fit better guns than you

The only time RUNNING IN THE 90'S was a valid tactic was in the early days of Robocuck, when there was only wheels, thrusters, SMGs and plasma. and you could use unpowered wheels to go sanic fast with thrusters to bulldoze people and send them flipping into the air while you tear them to pieces with huge powerful guns.

>>166885613
Try if the old ones were fixed, if not you are fucked.

>>166888504
do you have an image of that? seems like it would make the bus very wide

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>>166890321
double width, but new lines can be added later on, so the first part doesnt need to be so wide

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>>166890321
There is no such thing as too wide

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>>166890848
>implying

>>166846312
Pretend I'm retarded, and explain why lasers cannot be considered projectile weapons.
Is it not sufficient that an object (a light particle/wave) is launched at a target?

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>>166892259
Projectile weapons describe an object of significant mass being ejected. Lasers do not fall under this category.

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>>166874310
But their women are so fucking hot.

>>166861030
This.

>>166862559
>they have the indecency to claim it's gotten better

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>>166892352
>the least testosterone
>their women are attractive

Want me to go check on the sky for you anon, to see if its fucking alling?

>>166871365
I also run a i& 4770k and sli 650ti. SE runs smooth as fuck.

>>166892462
>alling

>>166892469
In multiplayer on blaneds?

>>166892462
Whoops. I forgot an 'at least' in there.

>>166892539
In single and MP.

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>>166892513

>>166892349
I've yet to find a definition for 'projectile' that involves mass.

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>>166893196
Now you're just being a lil contrarian shit.

>>166892456
>implying the modern early access industry has any fucking idea what alpha, beta or golden means at all
Alpha is a state wherein you are still adding major features and trying to get a game roughly playable.
Beta is a state wherein you are polishing up the game for release; adding very minor features, balancing, replacing any placeholders, finishing assets
Releasing, or going golden, is a state wherein you should only be patching minor balance changes or bugfixes, and leaving any additional assets and features for expansions.

If you want to keep adding new stuff to your game even after beta or release, then you should just label it as constantly "in development" and skipping most of the other tags.
KSP is still in alpha.
Space Engineers is still in alpha.
Starbound is still in alpha.
All of the notoriously shitty early access games are either completely dead in the water or in alpha.

>>166892352
>shoulders
>long 3rd finger

Someone else tell him.

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>>166893358
>what is feature creep for 200 dollars, anon

>>166893554
She's actually a semi famous Jap softcore porn star.

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>>166893554

>>166893679
and?

>>166893296
>can't prove someone wrong
>fuck you, you're just being wrong on purpose
I still don't see any mention of mass in that picture.

>>166893196
A projectile must be matter.
Light is not matter.
QED - light is not a projectile.

>>166893794
I'm not the one trying to make the claim she's a he.

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>>166889762
>bulldoze people and send them flipping into the air
good times

There a good tutorial or something to help someone wrap their head around conveyors in factorio? Or is just tons of dealing with spaghetti at the start the best teacher?

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>>166895340
You know thats the best teacher, and also you could bring different solutions to the pasta thing.

>>166893823
Is a fucking traffic light a projectile? You're arguing semantics.

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>>166895725
Don't argue with the retard, it's as pointless as trying to convince a rooster that climate change is real. You're just filling the thread with bullshit.

>>166887636
research cracking asap

>>166895852
you mean climate change, or man-made climate change?

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>>166895964

>>166895725
Is a rock a projectile?
Is it a projectile if thrown or launched from a sling, catapult or gun?

I'd apply the same logic to a traffic light.
While it is likely not a projectile, it very well could become one.

>>166895340
Frankly, the easiest way of organizing an early factory is by using a resource bus.
See >>166890680 and for a messier version >>166887636
However, the total production off a single bus is limited by its throughput (and by extension, its width).
Make sure its built to scale with its intended goal.