Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Valeera is fun

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I want scrapped skins again

>play butcher
>(GRUNTING NOISES)
What did he mean by this?

Overall Tassadar is worse now. When will Blizzard stop reworking heroes that are fine?

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>>166763393
Agreed.

>stealth
>cheap shot
Love those classic sound effects.

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

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>>166763393
valeera is also cancer, we could have had van cleef instead

Haven't played since S1.

Loved playing Uther and Arthas back then, at a semi-high level.

Anything I should be aware of?

>>166764020
B-But muh comic book & Hearthstone cross promotion

Did they seriously just fucking slightly buff Zul'jin's W build, while nerfing the only consistently viable build he has?

Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck is wrong with these people? Seriously, who the fuck can look at this and tell me they know how to do their job? The one and only fucking build he has going for him, BECAUSE HE'S A RANGED AUTO ATTACKER, THAT DOESN'T HAVE MOBILITY OR AN IN-COMBAT SELF-HEAL, AND IS COUNTERED BY STUNS AND BLINDS WHICH ARE ALREADY ALL OVER THIS GAME.

Holy mother of my fuck.

>>166764074

Check tier list in OP. Basically everything is okay with few exceptions, balance changes weekly. Uther is in a bad spot, Arthas has a new niche countering basic attack heroes and dive comps (like alwaye) but he's better at it now.

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>>166764089
>tf when you know she only made the cut because she's female in both, hearthstone and hots

>>166764187

Trash hero, trash lore, trash universe. Who fucking cares? Good riddance.

>>166764074
Arthas is still solid.
Uther is universally considered shit outside of DShield comps and even then he's shit.

>>166764187

AP is viable and much safer. AA build was not nerfed by much, but it had a 92%+ pickrate, so the nerf was nessicary as well as the buff to AP build.

The following weeks will show his winrate and versitility in many comps will raise.

How do I into Azmodan?

Is he worth spamming in rankeds?

>>166763786
I want old Tass with new Tass storms and archon.

>>166764726
Yeah, at least at low MMR. Just build W and E then murder structures all game. Take Demonic Invasion and try to keep an eye on the map to know when you're safe to take stuff.

Also; E talent at level 1 lets you laser turrets then move out of their range of fire. Forts/keeps, too. Sort of like Hammer.

>>166764020
No, we could have had Garona instead. Fuck VanCleef.

>>166765095
Why not both.
Garona was hardly a Combat/Outlaw Rogue.

>>166763393
I wish you had more options to use combo points

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>>166764020
We'll need an Outlaw rep at some point, hoping that's him. Makes more sense for him than Valeera's kit anyhow.

I also want Moroes as a Subtlety rep. I need my Shadowstep/Shadow Dance/Backstab fix. Subtlety Rogues are the fucking best.

Wow so you really don't get afk kicked as abathur.

I know what hero I'm playing any time I think I might not be able to play a full game

>>166765662
>no rupture
>no kidney shot
>no slice and dice

Mixed feels. I would've liked to Garrote Li-Ming, bounce over, Kidney Rehgar then hop back onto Ming.

Don't jinx this OP. I need Stukov.

>>166765852
Yeah, it's great. Come back and see the one person that called you out for being AFK getting flamed to shit by the other three players for "not knowing how abathur works".

>>166765857
Isn't Slice and Dice the name of a talent?

>>166765857

Two of those are talents :^)

>wowfags get a class represented in it's most generic and iconic form
>now they want each individual spec represented

Never pleased you cunts

>>166765919
We're gonna get a no-name Infestor now.

>>166765803
What about Garona? She's literally the only warcraft rogue that matters.

>>166765852
>Wow so you really don't get afk kicked as abathur.
Unless you die.

>afk abathur in a bot game while i shower
>inside that little wall beneath the boss on sky temple
>8 minutes into the game, bot samuro comes strolling by
>locust spawns and walks over to him
>instantly Qs
>one of the clones spawns right next to me and kills me
>come back and i'm afk kicked

>>166766041
Yeah, at 7. Increases basic attack speed for by X% for her next three attacks, or something.

>>166766045
It's whatever. She has more than enough in her kit.

Anyways, new Heroes and their skillsets are, like, the only thing this game has left going for it.

>>166766313
kek, unlucky

I want lady Vashj in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2gAhrbz_jQ

>>166766545
Anon you're going to trigger the diablocucks.

Rock n Roll Racing map when?

>>166766707
Never

>>166766545
Once I get Stukov you can have whatever, I don't care.

>>166766624
Nice try warcuck, Diabro and Starcraftians are cool. It's just you fags thinking you're the center of the universe that triggers us

>>166767490
lmao triggered as fuck

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>>166767490
>It's just you fags thinking you're the center of the universe

Don't worry, you'll get another Diablo or Starcraft Hero soon.

>Warcraft (Valeera)
>Warcraft (Zul'jin)
>Warcraft (Ragnaros)
>Warcraft (Varian)
>Warcraft (Samuro)
>Overwatch (Zarya)
>Diablo (Auriel)
>Warcraft (Gul'dan)
>Warcraft (Medivh
>Warcraft (Chromie)

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>Trying Sonya out.
>Get a game with Colossus Smash Varian.

The double yell is so glorious.

shit tier Valeera looking for group. literally just started, teach me senpais! McPull #2251

>>166763084
How does stukov smell under that sweater? You KNOW he's been keeping that thing on for a few years. Kerri is at least nude but this guy must have some clamy clothes at this point.

>>166766545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YyRBsI0ALc

>>166768073
Isn't Alarak more recent than Medivh?

>>166768195
I'm wondering if he shaves with a blade in his pocket or if he has a zergling do it.

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>>166766545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrgWQp6TjDY
I like his stukov it seems pretty fun

>>166768430
Whoops, knew I was missing somebody in there.

>Tassadar has a 100% Pick/Ban rate

Gee I wonder why they nerfed him

>>166745104
I just want a Warden hero. I figure Maiev is the go-to.

>>166769119
I get nerfing him, but watching him try to AA a minion to death is the saddest fucking thing I have ever seen.

>Quick meme
>pick Li Ming
>rogue bitch, Nova and Samuro on enemy team

THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!

Stealth Brawl when?

>>166770536
Stealth Brawl with radically reduced sight range and everyone does +300% damage.

The most tense game of hide and seek ever.

>>166769119
>>166770351
>some retard tass constantly walking up to people to auto them in lane phase
>clearly took the AA quest
>camp him all game
>win by a landslide
>tass has 10 deaths by 15 minutes
Please don't nerf Tass, I'm climbing so hard right now

>>166769119

I don't really disagree with changing him. He was unkillable and super niche enabling the adc flavor of the month, but op in that niche.

What they actually changed him into was a travesty tho. He needs to be a hybrid like iron fist monk or Zarya, not awful at everything except that he's got a op ult thrown on.

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>>166770353
>mfw I go vs Valeera and Zeratul as Butcher and a teammate goes Azmodan
we won

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Rexxar is fucking RUINED. Why would they do this

>>166770351
Have you ever seen him try to kill one of aba's toxic nests or zagara's creep tumors without using a storm?

Need to level stiches to 5, what are his must-have/totally avoid talents? Right away it looks like building for slam looks pretty good and putrid bile is his better ult but I'd like a second opinion.

>keep banning all the fun maps

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>>166772257

He's actually much better than ever before. Improved Follow Misha and Easy Prey at level 1 makes him a fucking god. Learn to play, scrub.

Rexxar + Zarya = New Sylv. Game's fucking easy.

>>166773374
Rexxar is one of those heroes I've always wanted to be good with, teach me onee-sama.

>>166773374
What the hell kind of graphic settings is that?

>>166773374
Commanding Misha to retreat now requires you to click on yourself. Maneuvering her was way easier with 2 separate keys

>Sonya buffs
>fix none of her problems (slow resource generation, no defenses, no ranged abilities to make up for being the squishiest warrior)
>hurr durr E heals more now

feels bad man

>>166773627
Even my GT 430 gets disgusted by these graphics.

>>166774102
she was OP for a long time

good riddance

>>166774216
I keep forgetting that "balance" means "flavor of the month meta, everyone else nerfed to shit or outclassed by new releases" in Blizzard speak. How thoughtless of me.

>>166774338
Welcome to Blizzard games. And welcome to the mentality of people who only play ASSFAG.

>>166774102
>No defenses
She gets more at later
>slow resource generation
Talent for that
>No ranged abilities to make up for being the squishiest warrior
That I agree with you can always take leap for engage

>>166773374

I imagine ez prey at 1 is probably really good, even if it does limit him since he can't merc anymore at a reasonable speed.

Doesn't excuse shuffling controls we're used to around for no reason, even if you ignore how bugged they are.

>na mule fix the wall instead of the keep

lel

>>166774338
I don't agree with it, but that is how things tend to be, unfortunately.

Sort of like that unfortunate situation with melee assassins.

>>166774615
>how bugged they were
>now Misha is even buggier
Bravo.

>>166774481
>Talent for that
>forces you to give up War Paint, forcing you into E build which denies you about 60% of her damage

>She gets more at later
>be useless until level 13 because she gets focussed down while engaging, useless but alive after that because you still only have a clunky engage tool with a monstrous cooldown that you can't use as an escape because you took the defensive talent at level 13

>Leap
>lose +40% damage for a soft tickle with a barely noticeable stun on a SEVENTY second cooldown

>>166774079

>press alt+d
>misha follow!

???

>>166772257
Just tried him out. I'm not seeing the problem.

>no random skin option yet
Blizzard please make my decisions for me.

>>166773374
>That enemy comp

They had no chance. Really doesn't help that Varian isn't even a real hero until 10. I hope they change that with the next multi-class hero.

nice swap

>>166776880
Now that was a good swap

bad swap

>>166775301

Even if that's accurate, which it isn't because she won't stay by your side....it's still two buttons. The ONLY reason they changed it was so you only controlled Misha with one button.

They fucked up her controls and threw everyone off since they have to get used to moving her with D instead of 1 and they didn't even accomplish the one thing they set out to do.

What assassins have no niche in the meta currently?

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>>166777291

>1 and D
>alt and D
>TWO BUTTONS

>malf bodyblocked artanis to death

Is this diamond?

Cock best mount

Gonna ride this cock forever.

>>166777445
Raynor, Butcher, Kael'Thas, Gall, and Samuro

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>>166777486
>1 and D
>D on yourself
>ONE BUTTON

>Sonya at level 20 with master skin
>will never be good again

>>166778446
And Nova of course.

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>remove headphones from my head
>have great awareness of the map and do everything correctly

If controlling Misha is that annoying to you now, just fucking make a different profile for Rexxar. I have one for Medivh that makes me shield myself whenever I hit D. No need to Alt or whatever.

I don't see the problem.

>team with Ragnaros wins
>whooooooa how unexpected
Gilly pls

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Is this rooster race shit in quick matches only? And how long would it take to do it 25 times for the mount?

>>166778767
Zeratul and Diablo won that game, Ragnaros missed most of his Rs.

>>166778871
It's in whatever as long as someone on the team didn't complete it yet.

>>166778871
>Is this rooster race shit in quick matches only?
nope

>And how long would it take to do it 25 times for the mount?
25 matches in which the cock appears
that's one guaranteed per day and a guaranteed encounter every time you play with someone who hasn't done their daily yet
so about as many matches if you play with others

>>166778767
>free hero weekend
>no one on my team picks Ragnaros
>every single fucking enemy team picks Ragnaros

>Valeera in literally every QM
>40 minute matches with 100+ kills because Valeera can't push for shit

>Freedom takes Artanis
>Tempo responds by building entirely AA damage

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>>166779676
>Playing Monk a lot.
>Air Ally.
>She keeps peeking to sneak up and then instantly runs away the minute she knows she's spotted.
>Finally kills one and I drop 2 other ones.

>>166779791
Professional video gamers are on an entirely different plateau from you and me, friend! Their strategies are intricate and their gameplay is nearly superhuman! This is esports, son! The big leagues! What a time to be alive!

>>166763084
where is the stukov hint?

>>166780250
Blizzard released an image parodying Where's Waldo only they wanted you to find Valeera. On the image it looks like there are infested marine eggs. One of Stukov's main themes in SC2 are the infected and he uses a lot of Infected Marines.

>>166780478
maybe they are adding a generic infested marine hero

>>166780567
Billy the Infested Marine hero.

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>>166780567
No it was like someone was spawning Infested Marines. Something Stukov does a lot of. Add to that they just added him to the Co-Op in SC2 a little bit ago and he whole shtick is infected pints towards him.

Butcher?

I barely know her!

Who won the 5th game? Tempo?

I think HGC.....is good

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What if there was a Panda skin for kharazim?

>>166781926
What if there was a human skin for Chen?

>rooster race
>person picks up the one green one
>doesn't hand it in
>just stands there by the rooster
>timer expires

:^)

>>166781926
Silhouette issue, I imagine.

>>166781419
Witch Doctor? This Doctor.

>>166781419
Butch her?

Make her a lesbian?

i don't understand

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>>166781419
>>166782837
exemplary reddit posting

kys

>>166783116
That's a line Nazeebo actually says in game.

are there any good hots streamers that aren't memers, loud, etc? (he-he-hey thanks for the sub bro welcome to the big dick club!)

genuinely want to know their names

>>166784312
erho
kure
cris
alextheprog

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>Nazeebo on my team being completely worthless.
>Died 12 times.
>Did lowest damage.
>Has master skin.

How much suffering his teammates had to have gone through is mind boggling.

>>166784312
twitchdottv/kure_hots

live right now

>>166784671
saw a master skin valeera the other day

had less hero damage than me and I was playing pve dehaka

basically told me I had no idea what I was talking about and he was a GM mmr smurf. enemy valeera was unranked and had twice our val's damage

>>166784312
What's wrong with saying "thank you for the sub"? Seriously.

>>166784936
>politely request somebody stop feeding like shit
>they're a master or grandmaster smurf
>every time
>check profile
>4000 games played

>>166784952
Not him, but if I'm going to go ahead and watch a stream I'd rather it be somebody playing well, not trying to have conversations with twitch chat.

>>166785231
I know a guy who has around 4000 games played. He's sort of bad, but thinks he's really good and yells at his team a lot. Don't know how to break it to him

>>166785231
that's the kinda audience that doesn't get you 1) famous and 2) money. you just want free shit.

>>166763932
Just want to let you know that I appreciate this.
I'm still mad at that fucker for killing axolotl

>>166785404
Mhm, which is why it's difficult to find and the reaosn I don't generally watch streams.

>>166785384
Yee, I've got a friend or two that I play with who become inhumanely toxic towards teammates in Quick Match, which makes it more than a little awkward.

>he flat-out refuses to queue ranked
>literal bronze mmr according to hotsdogs after hundreds of games

>Only played this shit game for my nigga Tassagod and my wife Zagara
>Both get nerfed into the ground
So what assfaggot should I play instead?

>>166785732
There's this really fun secret one that's super popular. It's invite only, but you can get an invite pretty easy by killing yourself, faggot

>>166785732
People in HGC are saying Tass was buffed. You gotta realize. Tass's auto attack always meant shit.

Alright then what's the least shit build for tass?

>>166786714
I quite like the 'Pick somebody else' one.

>>166785730
I don't blame anyone for avoiding ranked. The queue times are way too long. I wait upwards of 5-10 minutes for a game, and 25% of the time somebody dodges. I don't have time to spend the equivalent of a game's length between each game waiting

>>166786505
>His shields are worse
>His damage is worse until very late game
>His utility is worse
>His survivability is worse

>But he's better
?

>be cursed
>enemy team caps boss
>our morales Medivacs us behind them
>while we are cursed and they have a boss

Brilliant. We either retreated to their towers or to ours that were cursed and have a boss killing it

>tfw no permanent hero price reductions

>>166786979
True, and I think Ranked/Comp in most games is overrated. Just find a comfy game mode and don't burn yourself out.

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I hate this so much.

>>166787680
Lmao you retards throw the game so bad.

>>166787485
Yep. Ranked is nothing but epeen. Truth is you still get retarded team mates doing questionable shit in the highest leagues.

>>166787680
Comeback mechanics bro

>>166787772
Mm, actually. At least play gets a little bit tighter/cleaner as you climb, which feels nice.

>>166787680
Literally how?

>>166787072
His shield build is legit and probably the one they will use unfortunately. Archon is fucking amazing now either way and Psi-Storm is a legit build.

I much prefer new Tass because you can be way more than just a shield bot.

the people who play this game just get worse and worse as time passes.

>>166788579
I feel like hero releases bring back a lot of players who are rusty or people who only play a little bit for one or two weeks then quit again.

How's smite doing?

I'm gonna go try it again.

>>166788418
>No more mule
>No more double D.Shift into Force Wall
>No more aggressive D.Shift into shrink ray
>No more shielding buildings
>No more healing ward
>B-But he can auto attack harder now! He can do so much more!

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>Play Chromie
>No idea what t1 talent I'm supposed to get
>Love going sandblast t1 to sand hits twice but most people go sandblast talent
How do I build the shortstack right /hotsg/

>>166789110
That's me

>>166788094
>>166788041
>>166787740
I have no fucking clue. We had just gotten all the keeps down with a golem and push, drove them back and then Valeera explodes us with Medivh backup.

It was as though they suddenly realized they weren't retarded.

>>166789360
You use your brain. That helps.

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>>166789360
>>166789589
If I had a brain I would be playing Rag

>>166789729
Rag's pretty braindead. Fun as fuck, but braindead.

>>166789360
the vision ability is way, way better

>>166789251
tassadar was the worst. not fun at all unless you were some hyper autist.

>>166789251
>All those talents you never took because he only had one legit build.

What a travesty.

>>166790178
>>166790616
Don't comment if you aren't master and you don't have Tassadar at least level 10.

>>166791379
just letting everyone know this is bait

Do you need to complete the match to complete the cock race or can you just spam solo ai?

>>166792230
Don't think you need to complete the match but you need at least someone on your team to not have done the quest today

>>166792230
You CAN spam AI, but if you did co-op, it'd be better, considering it isn't 100% chance for anyone unless those who haven't done it for the day. So by playing with others, you're likely to get with someone who hasn't done it today, and for sure get one.

>>166792215
>Retard says mule is bad
>Intelligent high IQ anon say it isn't
>This is bait
??

>free butcher week

see you next week

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>When you and Tyrande become the perfect killing machine

>>166793004
>tracer 7 deaths
>escape artist
jej

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>>166792795
>Taking mule over perma shields.

What's the point of playing Tass?

>>166792996
Why?

I'm probably going to be called a bandwagoner but
I just played Artanis because of the brawl (my other options were nova and zera) and it was fun, but felt a little mana hungry
Am I using him wrong if I'm running low on mana?

Should I buy Artanis?
If so, How do I Artanis?

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>>166793517

>also free zagara week
>new hero week
>five games in a row with braindead first game zagara's getting smashed by butcher endlessly
>image related

>>166793620

Don't spam. Think about your shit before you use it and get value. Spamming does nothing.

>>166793137
>Tracer use her 3 blinks to get away from me
>Tyrande uses sprint and kill her

I wish I could create a webm of this.

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>>166793707
So far, Butcher has been a blast. I'm level 7 with him so I got that sweet green skin tone. Zagara is super fun also, but yeah, dive assassins like Illidan, Valeera, Butcher, etc. just shit on her. It's sad.

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>>166792996
>free heroes affects the heroes he sees in game

>>166794231

Can't really blame people for not wanting to play ranked, desu.

I think the butcher stopping on stealth make sense since he can't fucking see where he's charging

>>166794530
Game mode doesn't even matter in this game. Unless you're playing in a stack of friends, it's all the fucking same. The only thing Ranked presents you with is the Draft system, same as Unranked except you get Feel Good Points.

The game doesn't use a proper MMR matchmaking system, there are idiots at all ranks, it's a team-oriented game, and as such you usually cannot be held accountable for a loss because one single person can ruin everything with a single mistake.

Game mode does not matter, it's all the exact same, just play whatever you have most fun in, in the way you have the most fun with. Unless you want to 4-5 stack in QM, then you and your friends are just pussy ass bitches that are afraid to take it to Team League/Unranked, and the game is infinitely easier.

How did Zagara go from picked/banned in every single comp game to F tier?

>>166789360
The vision talent is insanely good.

>>166795025
>just have fun
Some people's idea of fun involves not having to play every game against the same annoying hero?

>>166795051

They reworked her

>>166795051
They reworked her, aka nerfed all damage she did and memed up nydus worm as if that would somehow balance it out

>shit team mate coaching from beyond the grave the entire match
>we obviously lose because we got stomped 10 to 30
>waits until the last possible second
>"____ was shit"

Every time

>>166795687
>>166795754

Wasn't it after her rework that she was the toppest of tiers, though? Could've sworn the post rework number tweaks were what killed her.

>Getting bored of HOTS
>Thinking of re-installing LoL
>Read this

http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/27/14415998/league-of-legends-sale-crafting-best-way-to-spend-money

Jesus fucking christ

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Valeera seriously needs a little buff, her damage output isn't enough to clean any other assassain in the game after level 10-12.

Also the talent Blind at level 13 is bugged as fuck because the enemy that gets stunned sometimes don't get Blinded.

And last but most important... THE FUCKING MASTER SKIN IS UGLY AS HELL.

>>166795825
I don't remember, all I remember is she was one of my favorite heroes before the rework and I completely stopped playing her after the rework

>>166793004
>enemy valeera and chromie are voice chatting together and setting up instant kills
help

>>166796059
Eh, it's different. At least you get potentially any skin foe free in Legolegens.

>>166796109
Yeah, ditto. I miss my comfy lane bug.

>>166796084
>And last but most important... THE FUCKING MASTER SKIN IS UGLY AS HELL.
end yourself

>>166796084
She isn't supposed to kill anyone instantly, if she had Nova levels of damage there would be no reason to pick Nova ever again

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>>166796084
>Master skin is ugly as hell
>Doesn't see the black tint
How can one man's taste be so shit

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>>166796334
>>166796442
>Samefagging this fucking hard.

Did I hurt your feelings so much kiddo?

>>166796084
>point-click stun from stealth
Almost seems like the type of thing that'd be good for setting up on somebody with.

Hmm.

>shit master skin
Oh, you're hopeless.

>>166796502
What a retard

>>166796537
Welcome to the internet. That faggot probably doesn't have a sense of introspection and will continue to be retarded.

>>166795342
Yeah, a lot of people like that actually.

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>>166796502
>>166796084

>>166796084
>THE FUCKING MASTER SKIN IS UGLY AS HELL.
>t2 with perdition blade and corehound tooth is ugly

fuck off faggot go fap to anime or something.

But seriously you're right her burst is not very impressive.

>>166796527
>>166796739
Not the same guy but why you guys say her burst isn't good enough? I've seen some crazy Valeera players wrecking the enemy team.

What kind of build you need to do that?

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Reminder that less than 1/3rd of the cast are ladies.

Suggest some fucking ladies to add to the game.

>>166797152
they just released valeera.

>>166797152
Selendis
D2 Amazon
Maiev

>>166797109
Her burst is good in late game but before that is not very high and maybe he picked assassination (100% extra damage if the victim is alone).

>>166797396
>(100% extra damage if the victim is alone).

Isn't this skill absolutely useless in mid-late game where everything is stick together?

>>166797647
Yes it is but dunno maybe the team was bad.

>>166797109
She makes playing Morales feel like I was playing my priest in wow again when getting opened on by a rogue. Lose half of my health pool in 2 seconds and can't do anything to get her off me

>>166797647

5 units is nothing. That being said, assassination sucks.

>>166796084
Those are some pretty impregnable tits

>>166797396
>>166797647
>>166797695
Just go for a mix of energy build + E combos.

Stun the fucker with W then W again, if at level 4 you pick the 2 combo points for stealth abilities then after the 2 W's you just press E and say goodbye to the enemy pleb.

At mid-late game same shit, W-W-E some autoattacks then Q-W-E. After level 20 (remember to pick the D talent to reduce CD) you just spam stealth abilities over and over each 5 seconds.

>>166797750
>units
How far is it, exactly? Roughly, even.

>>166797940

Roughly the range on Valla's basic attacks

>>166797924
I usually go vigor, ralentless strike, fatal finese, smoke bomb, blind if they have aa/elusivness, tea and nightslayer.

>>166797991
Oh, neato. Is she being played a lot in ranked right now? Hotdogs is showing her pretty low.

>>166798142
Only a good valeera player can make the difference in ranked right now.

A pro Valeera goes right into the enemy team while in stealth and then anything she picks is fucking dead if your team follows you.

You should check the Korean stats, they're using her a lot.

>>166798349
>A pro Valeera goes right into the enemy team while in stealth and then anything she picks is fucking dead if your team follows you.

She kinda remind me of Kerrigan, the whole team need to be with her to achieve amazing results.

>>166798349
Brilliant. Exactly what I was hoping for. Just wasn't quite sure how much they were playing her in the low MMR Hero League, where I was going to pick her up on a vulture account.

>Korean stats
Oh?

Is the frog build worth going over spiders?

It seems like it would be hell to even get the 40 heroes hit quest with the slow ass froggos.

>>166798594
No.

Man, I get that people said Valeera was a pub stomper, but fuck, it is a lot of fucking burst.

>>166763415
What's funny is that those are literally just pieces of Tychus's armor.

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>>166798465
I mean, yeah the team needs to follow you if they want to win because she can delete healers/dps.

The thing is on early game she can literally melt anyone that is not a heavy tank, so you play Valeera correctly in early game so you can end fast before the game goes into lvl 20+ when 1 bad teamfight means you're fucked.

For some reason I feel the same as you, she's like Kerrigan, a good one can really shit on the enemy team.

>>166780567
Tychus already has an Infested Marine skin. Unlikely.

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>>166797152
Alexi Stukov.

>>166798349
>>166798465
>>166798875
When should I open with garrote? I mostly use the stun.

>>166799232
Garrote has no use, the whole deal is keeping the enemy in the same place and that's why you start with D-W-W-E, after level 4 you will get 3 combo points after the first 2 W then do full damage with E.

The only use for Garrote is when you're in a 1 v 1 and you want a couple of seconds when the enemy can't do shit, or in a teamfight when you see someone trying to do a combo you stop them.

>>166799232
On someone stranded who has an escape and won't die from your burst in 1.5 secs

>>166799232
Pretty much this >>166799370
You can only use it if your team is there to help you secure the kill.

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Anybody use the W build on Zul'jin yet? Does it feel any better at all?

>>166799495
I feel like AA build is still better but this is based on two quick meme games.

How would you fix ultralisk?
By removing it and giving kerri a different ult?

>>166799495
It feels pretty much the same, only Guillotine is always up now.

>>166799361
Isn't Garrote better vs some heroes?

>>166799731
>By removing it and giving kerri a different ult?

Yes, there is no way to fix it.

>>166799731
It seems dreadful and out of place. Why doesn't Zagara have it?

>>166799737
Potentially? I'd prefer the lockdown in most non 1v1 situations, though.

>1.5s stun
>2s silence + damage

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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

(artanis shitters picking him because they think he's good, but never in the whole game making a good swap and just feeding on the front lines)

I fucking HATE platinum league. It's impossible to climb out of rank 1 into diamond. Games are full of fucking shitters.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>166799232
Maybe tracer?

>>166800223
Any kind of hero who can teleport/use a skill to disengage but you need your team to be there.

>>166787680
>Valeera with 21k damage

But then again i had a master game where the valeera did 7k in a 15min match.

>>166799971
Play more warriors, dehaka and muradin

>SC brawl
>both teams have Nova+Zeratul
>enemy Nova+Zeratul always roaming together deleting people
>your Nova+Zeratule are sitting in lanes farming XP

>>166796084
>Valeera seriously needs a little buff
fuck off
>THE FUCKING MASTER SKIN IS UGLY AS HELL
fuck off

>>166799971
play tank and support , and carry your team.

>>166799971
I'm at the same place man. Can't climb out of Plat 1 for the life of me. I'm like 160 games into this season and got no progress, it's depressing

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>>166796084
>And last but most important... THE FUCKING MASTER SKIN IS UGLY AS HELL.

>>166799927
They even said once that kerri was going to have maw and zagara ultralisk
Don't know why they changed it

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When will this AA meta leave?

I want to take this talent again.

>jaina is one of the ''beginner heroes''

is blizz retarded? you need extremely good positioning to play jaina, also to do her ring combo

>>166801058
I hope its not going to happen , i like the current meta actually.

>>166801058
>dat feel when taking superstition and just using the dance emote on top of a liming's laser

>>166801058
Take it vs Valeera.

>It's another "Our Varian Went Twin Fury" episode.

Gas. Them. All.

>>166801621
But anon, dual wielding is so cooooooool

>>166801621
*heroic leaps behind you*
*heals for 4% of his maximum health*
*dies*
nothing personell... kid

>First game on Valeera
>Our team are randoms
>Their team is a premade of tournament veterans
>They get completely dismantled
wew lad

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Splash screen Ming is a handsome drag queen.

>>166802158
Lunar Li ming is cute and fun.

>>166801621
>varian comes out
>everyone jumps on twin blades cock
>colossus is fun too I guess
>taunt is shit
Now
>twin blades os bronze
>colossus is fun too I guess
>taunt op

>>166802457
to be fair there was a large buff to taunt before this happened

>>166802568
I know. Just pointing out how things change

>>166797152
Leah
Mei
Phara
Vorazun
Selendis
Female Hybrid OC
Succubus OC
Naga OC
Adept OC
Mothership OC
Jinara
Sombra

Rory Swann skin for Gaz when?

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>>166801885
>leaps in your face
>lets beyblade into your backline

>>166793707
>le monkey face

I have to say I'm a big sc2 co op player and I might have some bad news, I hope I'm wrong but the picture with the infested eggs might not be stukov.

I truely don't know who else it could be but those eggs are from infestors, stukov does not get these and his own infested eggs are visually different. His look like big green eggs sorta like the zerg mutations.

I hope I'm wrong though I doubt something like this could carry any weight, maybe they just liked the infestor eggs more.

>>166803878
As much as I'd love to get an OC Infestor it definitely seems more likely we'll be getting Stukov.
Provided you're right what might the skillset look like? Sc2 isn't really my thing.

>>166802872
didn't he have some skin leaked a while back

>>166804125
Mechalord Gazlowe. They're hopefully just saving it for when they put out a Gazlowe rework, or something.

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>>166804294
>Gazlowe
>actual rework

Good one. His mini """rework""" was such a disappointment.

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Their team
>Li Ming
>Valeera
>Sonya
>Raynor
>Artanis


My team
>Valeera
>Zeratul
>Nova

>>166785676

I've always wondered: who was the guy who leaked Zul'jin, Valeera, and certain skins just before last year's Blizzcon?

>>166804608
Wow anon, a 5v3?

Huh, they reduced azmodan's price. That's kind of nice of them.

>>166804648
Mhm. They also dropped Rexxar down to 4,000 around the same time, which was a little surprising consider his...uniqueness.

>>166804630
Quite the legend. Interesting to see how far they've got these releases lined up.

>>166804632
It may as well have been

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>Chromie slow field
>5 second cd

>Enemy team has Zeratul, Nova, Valeera
>Our team has a fucking Tassadar
>He never fucking uses his reveal when I ping him when it's been a while since anybody saw any of the invis heroes on the map
>get on mount and run back to gate anyway
>get blown up right before I get in several times
>give up and stay in base or push a lane furthest away from objectives
>our Chen tries to barrel people out of the temples solo, and our bases crumble down
>our Jaina tries to take watch tower 24/7, blind to the massive blob of shimmers heading straight for her
>our Rexxar has ADD and just spins around giving everyone a free tomahawk before dying
>lose
>gg noob solo push anon
I can't wait until I'm done leveling all these heroes to 5 so I can stick to HL and never look back.
And then I'll just bitch about how this shit still happens in Diamond

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>>166804828
>Brightwing hex
>12 second cd

>enemy Nova+Valeera run around deleting the squishies with Navy SEAL precision
>you're Valeera dives into their 5 stack and stuns the tank
Only constant.

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>>166804828
>Colossus Smash
>20 second cd

>>166804828
>taking the slow field on chromie

kek

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>>166804828
>Resilient flames for Ragnaros

>>166804125

In the co op he wasn't a playable unit, he had "abilitys" at the top of the screen that would direct his units towards a location automatically like a waypoint, second ability was "infest structure" which disables an enemy building and spawns broodlings from it (This is very likely to make a return as an ultimate I'd wager), an apocolysk which summoned a giant ultralisk that was half terran machinery and the alexander which was a big infested battlecruiser that took control of everything it attacked and spawned infested troopers.

In the campaign he was a unit for a single mission and his abilities were corrosive blast, which done damage and debuffed a targets armour, healing aura which is self explainitory (possibility to show up as a talent maybe?) and spawn infested which created a few infested marines.

If I was a betting man I would assuming the infest structure, corrosive blast and spawn marines will make it into his skill set, I'd bet he'll be a multiclass like varian but support/specialist and may be built around structure disabling/debuffing.

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>>166805174
I like to have the ability to deny a zone with a metric fuckton slow

>>166804368
New game director wants to make him viable, so. Pretty sure he's going to get something big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFu11jTuUIM&t=2s
Any hero you want in HOTS?

>>166805513
Kel'thuzad, Cairne/Baine, Imperius and another shaman that's based around ranged combat, preferably a tauren.

>>166805513

maeiv

Hinterland blast lower cd when?

120 second cds are rare, and should be reserved only for insane ults like mosh.

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>>166805513
I want the council

>>166797152
Andariel
Not only do we get more lady reps, we get another lord of hell.

>>166804630

I'm sure it's the same guy and the shitposting's been over nothing.

He wants things leaked. That's why he leaked them.

>>166799663
>>166799736
Yeah, tried it a few times. Feels better, but Guillotine is still Guillotine sadly. So with Taz instead, I think it's pretty decent, I really like the extra CDR on his level 1.

Reminder that the monkey paw curse is always on, so if the character that you want gets added, the kit will be boring and the hero will be shit

>>166805971

>Dehaka and alarak are both viable

I dunno maybe I lucked out?

>>166802779
>Naga OC
>Not Lady Vashj

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>>166805971

I've been pretty lucky, hope it stays that way.

SCV hero when?

>>166774079
>he doesn't smart-cast

>>166805513
the rest of the Great Evils
Lei Shen
Tyrant Velhari
Mannoroth
Garrosh
Gara'jal the Spiritbinder
Khadgar
Kil'ruk
Nazgrim
Tichondrius
Star Augur Etraeus
Odyn
Kur'talos Ravencrest
Dargrul
Xavius
Grand Apothecary Putress
Blood-Queen Lana'thel
Lady Vashj
The Eredar Twins
Kargath Bladefist
Ner'zhul

Alarak
Ragnaros
Medivh
Asian Wizard

plz help

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>played 8 games today
>still haven't got my first win of the day bonus
I should probably just jerk off instead. It'd be more productive.

>>166806987

medivh

Between matches, which of the heroes do you think hook up and fug between each other?

>>166807139
SONYA AND MURKY ITS TOO OBVIOUS

>>166807139
Thrall and Jaina (while Arthas and KT watch and jerk off)
Varian and Valeera
Sonya and any man she can overpower

>>166807070
Is he actually good now or still shit?

>>166807018
She has really nice tits, never noticed
>>166807139
Valla and a minion, according to that Chinese animation

>>166807304
>Sonya and any man she can overpower
so any man then

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>hero league on weekends

>teammate picks Artanis
>take Auriel
>get AS Beacon
>place on Artantis
>/follow
>win game

>>166808303
I wish they'd revert Artanis' xDankxAssxAlienxFlipsx buff.

>>166808350
As someone who loved Artanis's gameplay since he released, it's a great change.

I remember the days of Artanus, and now he's God Lord Supreme Artanis, kinda like how in SCBW he was just an useless Scout and turned into the Leader of the Universe in SC2.

>>166808580
As an addendum, it might have been alright if they had just made the swap dash a talent.

>>166808216
there should be leaver penalty for the lobby as well

>>166808634

Then they would've seen that it was picked 24/7 and it would've been nerfed/removed

It's the entire point of their talent changes, they do not balance this game on numbers they balance on popularity. Look at dehaka, every talent that was a mandatory pick got nerfed.

>>166809079
>Look at dehaka, every talent that was a mandatory pick got nerfed

That was because a lot of those talents (namely the waveclear at 1) were previously mega buffed back when dehaka had a different mandatory build.

>>166807328

not really. he's definitely usable though at very high rating where your teammates will know how to abuse the portals.

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>>166802158

>>166806631
Xavius, Putress, Lana'thel and Vashj would be glorious

>>166809176

and yet the nerfs still remain, the movement speed gone, hero kill essense nerfed 50%, dark swarm cdr -0.1 (big deal right?)

And there are many other characters that've gone through this.

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>>166805513

moira to finish the council

>>166810135
Dunno how they could fit her in.

We STILL need a dwarf Sgt. Hammer skin that uses the WC3 Steam Tanks.

>>166810208
>Dunno how they could fit her in.
shadow priest

>>166810236
if they used moira as the representative shadow priest that would be fucking retarded lmao

>>166810304

Why not? She's the Shadow NPC for priests in Legion, and the only two other note-worthy potential hero priests (Anduin and Velen) definitely aren't spriests.

She could be some kind of hybrid support/caster that heals allies for the damage she deals (vampiric embrace). Just kicking around ideas.

>>166810616
she only really became relevant in legion; she had a very minor role in cata>mop

you're probably right that it's the best fit, but she's a literal who (cares) imo

>>166810660
Just as big of a Who as Falstad in terms of game relevance.

>>166810660
>I never played in Vanilla

ok senpai

>>166810660
>being equal in legal stature and more story relevant than Muradin and Falstad is a literally who
really makes me think

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>>166808658
>reveals himself as an idiot who doesnt know the game
>nobody picks it up
where are the /hotsg/ oldfags?
whats with all the shitters in here?

>>166810913
>where are the /hotsg/ oldfags?

This general has always been filled with shitters since its very first general.

Is empower sulfuras bugged?
Sometimes when I activate it he just stops attacking entirely

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>>166810913

still here
still waiting

>>166797152
Maiev
the fat chink from OW